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I think there should be a template for team history in NBA players articles
Year | Team |
---|---|
1992- 1995 | Houston Rockets |
1996 | Phoenix Suns |
1996- 2002 | Los Angeles Lakers |
2003-Present | San Antonio Spurs |
There seems to be some confusion as to at which point a player should be added to the category of players for that team. An edit war involving Ben Wallace and Category:Chicago Bulls players is ongoing. We need to decide on one standard threshhold and apply it universally, so here are the choices:
I was assuming #5 was correct, though I'd compromise at #4. "Game", of course, meaning official regular season or playoff game, not exhibition, otherwise we could end up dealing with such names as Master P) — Jul. 15, '06 [17:08] < freak| talk>
Hi Dknights411, the players category clearly states "This is a list of people who have played with <so-and-so team>", not signed with, or once listed on NBA.com's roster. Besides, if #1 is correct, then may we classify Dikembe Mutombo as a Chicago Bulls player (he was once traded to the Bulls)? And Dominique Wilkins as a Utah Jazz player (he was drafted by Utah)?
I've seen someone recently classify J.R. Smith as a Chicago Bulls player. The fact of the matter is even though he was recently officially traded to the Bulls, he has not played for them, and now he may be traded to the Denver Nuggets. Very good reason for not classifying players ahead of time.
So, yes, you're correct: Wallace is officially a Bull, but no, he hasn't played in a Bulls uniform (at least yet).
That's my thought on the matter, cheers! -- Downwards 23:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
1. Refer to Ben Wallace as being "...a player with the Chicago Bull" in the proper article since he is officially a Chicago Bull.
2. List Ben Wallace in the
Main Bulls Category for now to keep the article consistant. And once the season starts, we can THEN list Wallace in the Bulls' players category.
What do you guys think of this compromise? I think this should be the rule of thumb from now on to reduce the number of headaches this issue has created (aside from the whole preseason listing vs. regular season listing debate which I KNOW is coming). What do you guys think.
i think you guys waste too much time sparring over millionaire athletes that could care less what you call them on Wikipedia. but that's just my opinion.
Naradasupreme 01:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
An anon user wants us to use "Knickerbockers" for the Knicks on the main team tables in the NBA article because "Knickerbockers" is the official nickname for the team. SHould we use "Knickerbockers" or should we just stick with useing "Knicks"? I say use Knicks because it is WAY more common than Knickerbockers, but what do you guys think? Dknights411 21:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I refer you to this discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ESkog#Arena_Football_external_links. According to this person, I should be removing most of the "external links" at the bottom of the NBA page. I want to throw this out to this "community" though, to see your viewpoints on this whole issue. If you don't think most or any of the links should be removed, please reason that out. Thanks. Dletter 12:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
noticed there is a set of photos on flickr which are creative commons licenced of some NBA games, some of these could be uploaded here , have already added this -- Astrokey 44 00:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Quick question: is it Mamadou N'Diaye (with an apostrophe and capital D), Mamadou N'diaye (with an apostrophe and lowercase D), or Mamadou Ndiaye (no apostrophe)? I've seen each form used on the Internet, and I'm wondering of one version is the "correct" form. Thanks. Zagalejo 19:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
The baseball section of Wikipedia has each league's All-Star teams put in year-by-year categories; for example go to Category:1997 National League All-Stars. (I probably screwed up the syntax of that sentence anyway). Anyone think it's a good idea to do the same for the NBA WikiProject? ekedolphin 04:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Few NBA blogs are notable enough for Wikipedia, this is IMHO one of them. (Cases can be made for Deadspin and FreeDarko; but I don't know enough about the latter blogs to write an article on them). -- EngineerScotty 19:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Are we going to "[m]ake Basketball a descendent project of Sports and make NBA a descendent project of Basketball," as Gurulegend said on the talk page there? -- MC 21:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I've just done my best to get rid of the POV and offensive unsubstantiated comments in the article about this player.
However, I know very little about the topic and would appreciate some help.
I'm particularly concerned about the nickname, which I've left in, but looks like a derogatory comment, rather than a nickname. -- Dweller 11:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Based on a post and discussion at TrueHoop, there seems to be some interest in adding relationships between players and agents to a wiki somewhere. I think it is a great idea to add this to Wikipedia.
Very few basketball agents (or any sports agents, really) have Wikipedia articles (two examples I found were Arn Tellem and Leon Rose).
Could we create a category called NBA players represented by agents and then subcategories like Clients of Rob Pelinka, etc.? Not sure how this would work, but it would be great to be able to get a list of players represented by a specific agent. What do folks think of this idea? Rolando ( talk) 17:42, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
And there were several links posted by one of the commenters in Truehoop, which I reproduce here.
One of the most obvious problems, though, is that NBA players often change their agents, and the list would require constant maintenance, and since the news of firings/hirings are usually not widely published, then only a few knowledgeable fans would know about it. Hanuab 12:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I started the NBA wikia. I could use some help I will also make a few people admins if they help out.-- Team6and7 22:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Is there any info when the "forward" and "guard" positions became specialized into PG/SG and PF/SF? Is someone considered the "first" pure player of these categories? Would be helpful to know, thanks. Onomatopoeia 14:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the entry for each season links to the succesive draft, e.g. the 2005-2006 season links to the 2006 draft. However, it may make more sense to link to the previous draft (e.g. to the 2005 draft) as it is these players who enter the league for a certain season. Tikiwont 14:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it a good idea to rename 1947, 1948 and 1949 NBA Playoffs to <year> BAA Playoffs, since the name "NBA" didn't exist until 1950? -- Howard the Duck 08:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I added the NBA logo to the template to give it a little flavor. Quadzilla99 07:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
A photo of Kirk Hinrich of the Chicago Bulls is needed to replace the promo photo in the infobox. Are there any locals who could manage to do this for the wiki? Thanks.-- Alf melmac 12:48, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I created a version of the invite template for the Wikiproject. Put this on the talk page of anyone you wish to invite the Wikiproject. Quadzilla99 23:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I also created this userpage template for members of the NBA Wikiproject. Quadzilla99 01:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
NBA | This user is a participant in the WikiProject National Basketball Association. |
Just pointing this out to give the project members a chance to update the image used in the templates -- please see Wikipedia:Fair use#Policy, specifically #9. You can't use fair use (copyrighted) images anywhere except the article namespace, and you can't use them in templates. // Laughing Man 04:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
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I think there should be a template for team history in NBA players articles
Year | Team |
---|---|
1992- 1995 | Houston Rockets |
1996 | Phoenix Suns |
1996- 2002 | Los Angeles Lakers |
2003-Present | San Antonio Spurs |
There seems to be some confusion as to at which point a player should be added to the category of players for that team. An edit war involving Ben Wallace and Category:Chicago Bulls players is ongoing. We need to decide on one standard threshhold and apply it universally, so here are the choices:
I was assuming #5 was correct, though I'd compromise at #4. "Game", of course, meaning official regular season or playoff game, not exhibition, otherwise we could end up dealing with such names as Master P) — Jul. 15, '06 [17:08] < freak| talk>
Hi Dknights411, the players category clearly states "This is a list of people who have played with <so-and-so team>", not signed with, or once listed on NBA.com's roster. Besides, if #1 is correct, then may we classify Dikembe Mutombo as a Chicago Bulls player (he was once traded to the Bulls)? And Dominique Wilkins as a Utah Jazz player (he was drafted by Utah)?
I've seen someone recently classify J.R. Smith as a Chicago Bulls player. The fact of the matter is even though he was recently officially traded to the Bulls, he has not played for them, and now he may be traded to the Denver Nuggets. Very good reason for not classifying players ahead of time.
So, yes, you're correct: Wallace is officially a Bull, but no, he hasn't played in a Bulls uniform (at least yet).
That's my thought on the matter, cheers! -- Downwards 23:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
1. Refer to Ben Wallace as being "...a player with the Chicago Bull" in the proper article since he is officially a Chicago Bull.
2. List Ben Wallace in the
Main Bulls Category for now to keep the article consistant. And once the season starts, we can THEN list Wallace in the Bulls' players category.
What do you guys think of this compromise? I think this should be the rule of thumb from now on to reduce the number of headaches this issue has created (aside from the whole preseason listing vs. regular season listing debate which I KNOW is coming). What do you guys think.
i think you guys waste too much time sparring over millionaire athletes that could care less what you call them on Wikipedia. but that's just my opinion.
Naradasupreme 01:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
An anon user wants us to use "Knickerbockers" for the Knicks on the main team tables in the NBA article because "Knickerbockers" is the official nickname for the team. SHould we use "Knickerbockers" or should we just stick with useing "Knicks"? I say use Knicks because it is WAY more common than Knickerbockers, but what do you guys think? Dknights411 21:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I refer you to this discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ESkog#Arena_Football_external_links. According to this person, I should be removing most of the "external links" at the bottom of the NBA page. I want to throw this out to this "community" though, to see your viewpoints on this whole issue. If you don't think most or any of the links should be removed, please reason that out. Thanks. Dletter 12:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
noticed there is a set of photos on flickr which are creative commons licenced of some NBA games, some of these could be uploaded here , have already added this -- Astrokey 44 00:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Quick question: is it Mamadou N'Diaye (with an apostrophe and capital D), Mamadou N'diaye (with an apostrophe and lowercase D), or Mamadou Ndiaye (no apostrophe)? I've seen each form used on the Internet, and I'm wondering of one version is the "correct" form. Thanks. Zagalejo 19:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
The baseball section of Wikipedia has each league's All-Star teams put in year-by-year categories; for example go to Category:1997 National League All-Stars. (I probably screwed up the syntax of that sentence anyway). Anyone think it's a good idea to do the same for the NBA WikiProject? ekedolphin 04:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Few NBA blogs are notable enough for Wikipedia, this is IMHO one of them. (Cases can be made for Deadspin and FreeDarko; but I don't know enough about the latter blogs to write an article on them). -- EngineerScotty 19:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Are we going to "[m]ake Basketball a descendent project of Sports and make NBA a descendent project of Basketball," as Gurulegend said on the talk page there? -- MC 21:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I've just done my best to get rid of the POV and offensive unsubstantiated comments in the article about this player.
However, I know very little about the topic and would appreciate some help.
I'm particularly concerned about the nickname, which I've left in, but looks like a derogatory comment, rather than a nickname. -- Dweller 11:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Based on a post and discussion at TrueHoop, there seems to be some interest in adding relationships between players and agents to a wiki somewhere. I think it is a great idea to add this to Wikipedia.
Very few basketball agents (or any sports agents, really) have Wikipedia articles (two examples I found were Arn Tellem and Leon Rose).
Could we create a category called NBA players represented by agents and then subcategories like Clients of Rob Pelinka, etc.? Not sure how this would work, but it would be great to be able to get a list of players represented by a specific agent. What do folks think of this idea? Rolando ( talk) 17:42, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
And there were several links posted by one of the commenters in Truehoop, which I reproduce here.
One of the most obvious problems, though, is that NBA players often change their agents, and the list would require constant maintenance, and since the news of firings/hirings are usually not widely published, then only a few knowledgeable fans would know about it. Hanuab 12:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I started the NBA wikia. I could use some help I will also make a few people admins if they help out.-- Team6and7 22:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Is there any info when the "forward" and "guard" positions became specialized into PG/SG and PF/SF? Is someone considered the "first" pure player of these categories? Would be helpful to know, thanks. Onomatopoeia 14:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the entry for each season links to the succesive draft, e.g. the 2005-2006 season links to the 2006 draft. However, it may make more sense to link to the previous draft (e.g. to the 2005 draft) as it is these players who enter the league for a certain season. Tikiwont 14:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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End cross-post. Please do not comment more in this section.
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it a good idea to rename 1947, 1948 and 1949 NBA Playoffs to <year> BAA Playoffs, since the name "NBA" didn't exist until 1950? -- Howard the Duck 08:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I added the NBA logo to the template to give it a little flavor. Quadzilla99 07:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
A photo of Kirk Hinrich of the Chicago Bulls is needed to replace the promo photo in the infobox. Are there any locals who could manage to do this for the wiki? Thanks.-- Alf melmac 12:48, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I created a version of the invite template for the Wikiproject. Put this on the talk page of anyone you wish to invite the Wikiproject. Quadzilla99 23:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I also created this userpage template for members of the NBA Wikiproject. Quadzilla99 01:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
NBA | This user is a participant in the WikiProject National Basketball Association. |
Just pointing this out to give the project members a chance to update the image used in the templates -- please see Wikipedia:Fair use#Policy, specifically #9. You can't use fair use (copyrighted) images anywhere except the article namespace, and you can't use them in templates. // Laughing Man 04:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)