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You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles § About adding a link to each hangul syllable using Template:Linktext. 172.56.232.220 ( talk) 17:49, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Discussion closed. 172.56.232.167 ( talk) 00:11, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
I stumbled upon this stub: Eulji Mundeok Hansi. Is this really the oldest poem as the article claims? Big if true moment. I feel like it can't be; it's probably from the 7th century or later, and we have a reasonable amount of writing from before that era. Even regular writing could have been seen as poetry based on how old Chinese worked. I gave it a quick Google but if someone's willing to take it up that'd be appreciated toobigtokale ( talk) 03:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
An IP asked a valuable question here that's been bugging me too.
Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Korean)#Question
Can we get momentum to change the policy to allow MR markings? I don't get why articles about other countries get to have markings and we don't. toobigtokale ( talk) 09:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
A post on this article's talk page suggests this article stops at 1905 when the facts show a continuation until 1945. Perhaps some of the project's members can expand this article to improve its coverage. Thanks ww2censor ( talk) 11:19, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
North Korea, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Sagflaps ( talk) 00:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Chaoxianzu#Requested move 14 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 17:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles § Proposal to formally allow removals of unnecessary RR and MR values in various Korean-related templates. 172.56.232.186 ( talk) 02:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi all,
Two articles currently (9 am UTC) link to this en.wp redlink
The "Lee" suggests that that person's family name is Lee (Korean surname).
A note in a Yonhap News Agency reference (in French) of 23 May 2023 here suggests the hanja for this person is "李甲成", who was born 1889 - died 1981.
Your opinions and advice about this?
Shirt58 ( talk) 🦘 11:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Kim Ju-ae#Requested move 26 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 11:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United Kingdom–Korea Treaty of 1883#Requested move 27 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 16:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lisa (South Korean singer)#Requested move 28 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 18:31, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
You may have noticed I've been using Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser to edit the formatting of references on thousands of Korea-related articles. I wrote a custom find+replace script to do this.
Scope:
last=
into last=... |first=
author=
, I leave this alone.language=kr
to language=ko
. "KR" corresponds to
Kanuri language, not Korean.Sorry for editing some pages several times with this script; I'm still actively developing it (I tweak the script every few pages basically), so it's changed greatly since I first started running it.
Please let me know ASAP if you disagree with any edits or spot any mistakes. I tried to make the features uncontroversial. While AWB is semi-automatic (I look at and manually approve every edit), I may still occasionally overlook things. I've gone back and manually fixed things when I misclicked. toobigtokale ( talk) 03:25, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
I'll look into finding a way to run this once more on every page on WikiProject Korea then give it a rest" would be completed, end of this week i.e. 10 March 2024. — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 19:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
[^\|\}]*
right before 기자 would return more results, but this throws a timeout error.|last=
, |first=
, or |author=
parameter. Simply replace 기자 with 뉴스 in the regex above.|last=뉴 |first=스1
(currently in
Park Jeong-ja (actress) and
Park Shin-hye)|last=뉴 |first=스 |first=JTBC
(currently in
Kim Dong-young (actor))|last=뉴 |first=스,SBS연예뉴스|first=SBS
(currently in
Goo Hara)|first=성규환 부산닷컴 기자
(in
2019 MBC Entertainment Awards) and |last=스타뉴스
(in
Volume Up (EP)), but a regex search using [^\|\}]*
or [^\|\}]+
throws a timeout error.
172.56.232.215 (
talk) 17:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)|last=기 |first=호일보
(in
Bundang)|last=뉴 |first=스엔
(in
Lee Jin-wook)|last=[some email address] |first=[name and usually some misc text]
. I have to think through how to write a regex for it. I've noticed it maybe 10-20 times over all of my edits. If you can help me with writing a regex for it I'd appreciate it; otherwise I may get to it later, as it's a little infrequent.
toobigtokale (
talk) 03:17, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
I recently noticed that Spacestationtrustfund moved lots of pages in 2022. Since article titles are supposed to follow whatever is common in English, it looks like these moves need to be reviewed. 172.56.232.225 ( talk) 15:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Park Chanyeol#Requested move 1 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98 𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 08:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Yoo Hae-jin#Requested move 25 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 14:12, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
When you plug Encyclopedia of Korean Culture links into VisualEditor's automatic citation generator, you should now get more fleshed out references. I wrote a script last year for this, and it's finally been merged into Wikipedia. toobigtokale ( talk) 11:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lisa (South Korean singer)#Requested move 28 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:24, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Oh Se-hun#Requested move 8 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98 𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 17:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
An editor has requested that List of Korean films of 1919–1948 be moved to List of films produced in Korea under Japanese rule, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. toobigtokale ( talk) 04:46, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles § Thinking about removing Wiktionary links in some cases. 172.56.232.35 ( talk) 05:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
I've become a little skeptical of using and encouraging the use of Template:Expand Korean and similar. As respectfully as possible (there are many good editors fighting against the tide), the Korean Wikipedia has a systemic issue with poor sourcing; possibly influenced by Namuwiki. I think it can be nice to look at for ideas or book/source recommendations, but encouraging people to translate it I think brings their issues over to the English Wikipedia. toobigtokale ( talk) 06:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:East Asian Gothic typeface#Requested move 27 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Remsense 诉 19:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
I've noticed that in many infoboxes for Korean monarchs, their name is written in Hangul/Hanja as "[State] [Name]", for example "고려 성종" (" Goryeo Seongjong").
But I've never really seen a similar naming pattern used in Korean to describe kings like this. For example, the string "고려 성종" does not appear a single time on ko:성종 (고려).
I feel like this may have been artificially done to match the English naming pattern ("[Name] of [State]"), but I feel like this gives misleading emphasis on the use of this kind of naming pattern in Korean.
Does anyone know about this? I don't have much background in pre-modern Korean history. If there's consensus that this is unusual, I may propose going through using Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser to automatically redo every infobox to remove this kind of pattern. toobigtokale ( talk) 07:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Liancourt Rocks#Requested move 7 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Remsense 诉 13:17, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Liberal Unification Party#Requested move 12 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 ( talk) 23:43, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Dare to Love Me (TV series)#Requested move 17 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98 𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 08:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
To-do list for Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea:
|
This is the
talk page for discussing
WikiProject Korea and anything related to its purposes and tasks. |
|
Korea NA‑class | |||||||
|
Looking for Wikipedia talk: WikiProject Korea in Korean, see 위키프로젝트토론:한국. |
|
This page has archives. Sections older than 90 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III. |
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles § About adding a link to each hangul syllable using Template:Linktext. 172.56.232.220 ( talk) 17:49, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Discussion closed. 172.56.232.167 ( talk) 00:11, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
I stumbled upon this stub: Eulji Mundeok Hansi. Is this really the oldest poem as the article claims? Big if true moment. I feel like it can't be; it's probably from the 7th century or later, and we have a reasonable amount of writing from before that era. Even regular writing could have been seen as poetry based on how old Chinese worked. I gave it a quick Google but if someone's willing to take it up that'd be appreciated toobigtokale ( talk) 03:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
An IP asked a valuable question here that's been bugging me too.
Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Korean)#Question
Can we get momentum to change the policy to allow MR markings? I don't get why articles about other countries get to have markings and we don't. toobigtokale ( talk) 09:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
A post on this article's talk page suggests this article stops at 1905 when the facts show a continuation until 1945. Perhaps some of the project's members can expand this article to improve its coverage. Thanks ww2censor ( talk) 11:19, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
North Korea, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Sagflaps ( talk) 00:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Chaoxianzu#Requested move 14 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 17:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles § Proposal to formally allow removals of unnecessary RR and MR values in various Korean-related templates. 172.56.232.186 ( talk) 02:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi all,
Two articles currently (9 am UTC) link to this en.wp redlink
The "Lee" suggests that that person's family name is Lee (Korean surname).
A note in a Yonhap News Agency reference (in French) of 23 May 2023 here suggests the hanja for this person is "李甲成", who was born 1889 - died 1981.
Your opinions and advice about this?
Shirt58 ( talk) 🦘 11:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Kim Ju-ae#Requested move 26 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 11:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United Kingdom–Korea Treaty of 1883#Requested move 27 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 16:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lisa (South Korean singer)#Requested move 28 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 18:31, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
You may have noticed I've been using Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser to edit the formatting of references on thousands of Korea-related articles. I wrote a custom find+replace script to do this.
Scope:
last=
into last=... |first=
author=
, I leave this alone.language=kr
to language=ko
. "KR" corresponds to
Kanuri language, not Korean.Sorry for editing some pages several times with this script; I'm still actively developing it (I tweak the script every few pages basically), so it's changed greatly since I first started running it.
Please let me know ASAP if you disagree with any edits or spot any mistakes. I tried to make the features uncontroversial. While AWB is semi-automatic (I look at and manually approve every edit), I may still occasionally overlook things. I've gone back and manually fixed things when I misclicked. toobigtokale ( talk) 03:25, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
I'll look into finding a way to run this once more on every page on WikiProject Korea then give it a rest" would be completed, end of this week i.e. 10 March 2024. — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 19:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
[^\|\}]*
right before 기자 would return more results, but this throws a timeout error.|last=
, |first=
, or |author=
parameter. Simply replace 기자 with 뉴스 in the regex above.|last=뉴 |first=스1
(currently in
Park Jeong-ja (actress) and
Park Shin-hye)|last=뉴 |first=스 |first=JTBC
(currently in
Kim Dong-young (actor))|last=뉴 |first=스,SBS연예뉴스|first=SBS
(currently in
Goo Hara)|first=성규환 부산닷컴 기자
(in
2019 MBC Entertainment Awards) and |last=스타뉴스
(in
Volume Up (EP)), but a regex search using [^\|\}]*
or [^\|\}]+
throws a timeout error.
172.56.232.215 (
talk) 17:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)|last=기 |first=호일보
(in
Bundang)|last=뉴 |first=스엔
(in
Lee Jin-wook)|last=[some email address] |first=[name and usually some misc text]
. I have to think through how to write a regex for it. I've noticed it maybe 10-20 times over all of my edits. If you can help me with writing a regex for it I'd appreciate it; otherwise I may get to it later, as it's a little infrequent.
toobigtokale (
talk) 03:17, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
I recently noticed that Spacestationtrustfund moved lots of pages in 2022. Since article titles are supposed to follow whatever is common in English, it looks like these moves need to be reviewed. 172.56.232.225 ( talk) 15:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Park Chanyeol#Requested move 1 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98 𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 08:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Yoo Hae-jin#Requested move 25 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 14:12, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
When you plug Encyclopedia of Korean Culture links into VisualEditor's automatic citation generator, you should now get more fleshed out references. I wrote a script last year for this, and it's finally been merged into Wikipedia. toobigtokale ( talk) 11:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lisa (South Korean singer)#Requested move 28 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:24, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Oh Se-hun#Requested move 8 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98 𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 17:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
An editor has requested that List of Korean films of 1919–1948 be moved to List of films produced in Korea under Japanese rule, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. toobigtokale ( talk) 04:46, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles § Thinking about removing Wiktionary links in some cases. 172.56.232.35 ( talk) 05:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
I've become a little skeptical of using and encouraging the use of Template:Expand Korean and similar. As respectfully as possible (there are many good editors fighting against the tide), the Korean Wikipedia has a systemic issue with poor sourcing; possibly influenced by Namuwiki. I think it can be nice to look at for ideas or book/source recommendations, but encouraging people to translate it I think brings their issues over to the English Wikipedia. toobigtokale ( talk) 06:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:East Asian Gothic typeface#Requested move 27 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Remsense 诉 19:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
I've noticed that in many infoboxes for Korean monarchs, their name is written in Hangul/Hanja as "[State] [Name]", for example "고려 성종" (" Goryeo Seongjong").
But I've never really seen a similar naming pattern used in Korean to describe kings like this. For example, the string "고려 성종" does not appear a single time on ko:성종 (고려).
I feel like this may have been artificially done to match the English naming pattern ("[Name] of [State]"), but I feel like this gives misleading emphasis on the use of this kind of naming pattern in Korean.
Does anyone know about this? I don't have much background in pre-modern Korean history. If there's consensus that this is unusual, I may propose going through using Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser to automatically redo every infobox to remove this kind of pattern. toobigtokale ( talk) 07:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Liancourt Rocks#Requested move 7 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Remsense 诉 13:17, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Liberal Unification Party#Requested move 12 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 ( talk) 23:43, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Dare to Love Me (TV series)#Requested move 17 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98 𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 08:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)