Archive 39: December 2014 through July 2019, more or less. Please do not edit this page -- use my regular talk page instead, as I will not see your message here.
I am the author of the copy-pasted work from Moglen's wiki. Can you please stop deleting it, this is for a final assignment for his class. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaa2204 ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
That's my new Middle English word of the day. I imagine it's closely related to the modern "piss-ant," now that I think of it. Acroterion (talk) 01:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
May you have very Happy Holidays, Antandrus...
and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!
Best wishes, Voceditenore ( talk) 18:05, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
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That image you took of the gold characters in the image at top is very cool...nice job!-- MONGO 01:59, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Sigh! I do wish the College of Editors would assemble and decide on a uniform citation standard for all Wikipedia articles. In the meantime, thank you for your edit and comment at Symphony. The identical situation has arisen at Aquarius (opera), with perhaps even less justification.— Jerome Kohl ( talk) 05:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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You blocked an IP sock of a blocked user, the same user apparently uses more IPs doing exactly the same edits [2]. Jeppiz ( talk) 00:16, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I edited the page Antonio Vivaldi by correcting typos and adding to intro of the page. What I added was to the statement "Composed many instrumental concertos for violin and a variety of other instruments" I added "Composed over Five hundred instrumental concertos" You then messaged me saying that you removed my edits and saying that they appeared to be vandalism. Why do you consider this as vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio Bononcini ( talk • contribs) 19:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I corrected typos and my comments as "Greatest Italian baroque composer" are opinions as are all the comments on his music, the page says "one of the greatest baroque composers"you didn't flag whoever that was for adding opinions. Neither did you flag the person who wrote "he is recognized as one of the greatest Baroque composers" thats an opinion as well what is wrong with adding such opinions? I just added facts and corrected typos for example the page said "employed from 1703 to 1715 and from 1723 to 1740" to which I added "employed from 1703 to 1715 and from 1723 to 1740 a total of forty years". Is that vandalism? Did I put in incorrect dates? No. Did I delete previous work? No. Did I add any incorrect statements? No. Did I delete anything? No. The words I added were just descriptions like "He is known mainly for composing many instrumental concertos" I added "He is known mainly for composing over five hundred instrumental concertos" which is more descriptive and is a fact and I believe this was better than the original. I would not consider anything I added as vandalism. What are YOU doing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio Bononcini ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
WHAT spelling mistakes did I add? If I wrote "I added capitalization and punctuation misteaks." It was an accident but I did not add any spelling misteaks to the page so WHY did you send me a warning about vandalization. Or was it just because I gave an incorrect description of my edits? That hardly constitutes vandalization. If I wanted to vandalize I would have done it by now, or don't you think so. I have vandalized nothing you have no basis for deleting my edits and I use my previous rebuttles as my arguments. Also capitalizing the word "Greatest" as I did was not a spelling error as in this instance it was used as a title, so it's not a spelling error. I added no spelling or punctuation mistakes, so what did I vandalize? Did delete dates? No. Add incorrect dates? No. Did I erase anything? No. What did I do which constitiutes vandalizm. The most I did if anything that would be debatable is incorrectly describe my edits but other than that I ask again, what did I vandalize? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio Bononcini ( talk • contribs) 07:58, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you ;D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio Bononcini ( talk • contribs) 18:14, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus! Thank you for welcoming all of the newbies who participated in the Art+Feminism Edit-A-Thon at the University of California, Santa Barbara yesterday. It was a very successful event! Arthistorygrrl ( talk) 23:16, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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I had a great time reading your observations on Wikipedia. And the nearer to the end, the better they were. Iry-Hor ( talk) 21:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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![]() Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has two events in this second half of March -- please consider attending! First, there is a memorial edit-a-thon in honor of the prolific LA Wikipedian Adrianne Wadewitz, which is being held downtown on March 18 (tomorrow!) from noon to 8pm as a part of the American Society for Eighteenth-Century Studies' annual conference. Please drop by to contribute your own work or teach other users how to write for Wikipedia. Second, there will be an event at the Redondo Beach Public Library (following up on last month's session), in collaboration with the Redondo Beach Historical Society. Please join us from 10am to noon on Saturday, March 28 at the main branch of the Redondo Beach Public Library! I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 22:39, 17 March 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
Thanks so much for your seriousness. I thought that my full letter to Wikipedia might be helpful.
My name is Tim Page and I am the author or editor of more than 20 books. I worked at the New York Times, Newsday and finally the Washington Post, where I won the Pulitzer Prize for Criticism in 1997. I am currently a full professor in two departments at the University of Southern California.
And yet, due to the repeated intrusions of two demonstrably hostile editors of my page, one would think that all I've done in a career that stretches back almost 50 years, is beat up on all young prodigies and sass back to the late Washington D.C. mayor Marion Barry.
I would suggest that these two editors -- SSilvers and especially SchroCat -- have determined to give undue weight to two minor events in my career, with the specific intent of distorting my career
In the first instance, SSilvers (who is the editor of all the pages devoted to the prodigy Jackie Evancho) has been trying to turn me into a kiddie-stomper for a single article I wrote about Ms. Evancho in December 2011. OK, it was a negative article but I think a fair reader would glean that it was mostly about the music business and the way it eats its young -- a warning against premature exposure. Others may differ, of course, but to turn this one article (buttressed with a short paragraph in a 2000-word reflection on the highs and lows of a career in music criticism) into some kind of personal creed is preposterous. If somebody were to write a 3000 word piece on my work, it might have a place, but I've written hundreds of very positive reviews of young artists and to make this the centerpiece of my career is a clear case of original research -- and shoddy research at that.
I'm always uncomfortable touching up my Wikipedia page but I've done it on a couple of occasions, beginning when somebody suggested I wrote a book called "Descent into Madness: My Struggle with Homosexuality" back in October of 2008. (The fact is that I am a straight man, divorced twice, with three children and to refer to my Asperger Syndrome as "madness" is clearly slander.) And so, in 2012, I felt I needed to defend my work and add the names of some of the artists I had nurtured when they were very young: I included Hilary Hahn, Evgeny Kissin, and Midori (all teenaged when I first reviewed them -- indeed, I wrote the very first major profile of the last of these). There was some back and forth editorial discussion but we finally came out with what seemed a fair piece -- hardly fawning but with no errors of distortions of fact.
As such, it came as a surprise when I visited the page a month or two back and found that SSilvers had restored the material about Evancho, including my distinctly grotesque image of her onstage persona that I chose deliberately to make a point about what Evancho's handlers were doing to a talented child. At the same time, all the other prodigies I had supported were removed from the piece, leaving the impression that my dearest wish was to stomp all over child stars. Add to this the fact that SSilvers had called me a "thoughtless, nasty man" in talk pages on Wikipedia. As a journalist, I would recuse myself from writing about anybody I disliked so much, and to simply stick this in as the longest paragraph of my biography was clearly malicious.
I did my best to correct matters and though I'd found an ally in SchroCat who removed the corrections and wrote a frosty note, but DID explain the Wiki policy on sourcing. He said he neither knew nor cared who had written the Evancho restoration (this is beginning to sound like Tudor politics!) and said he had no time to make the corrections himself, but seemed a decent enough person. So I learned how to put the references into the piece, spending most of an afternoon on this and not doing a terribly good job on it but hoping that we had finally managed a fair appraisal.
He took out almost all of the corrections (some of the newspapers are no longer allowing early work to be presented without cost) and then added a long paragraph about an unfortunate blow-up I had with the late Marion Barry in 2007. Talk about undue weight! Barry was a controversial man with many supporters and just as many detractors -- I had been bullied by his staff when I asked them to take my address off their mailing list, and I overreacted, after which I apologized. Bingo -- end of story, until SchroCat decided to bring it up seven years later. If you wanted to mention everybody who has ever written negatively about Marion Barry, you'd have to expand your bandwidth -- and now this is the longest paragraph in my biography! Moreover, my leave of absence with the Post had been set up LONG before this took place.
Look -- I love Wikipedia. It's one of the great joys of on-line life. I go to it at least two or three times a day. But this sort of attack really isn't cricket. I'm not going to compare it to the Siegenthaler affair -- there is at least some truth in what these editors have chosen to glorify. But it's a little like a bio of Roman Polanski that talks mostly about his long-ago rape allegation and ignores the fact that he made "Chinatown."
I'm embarrassed to have to complain, but the world now takes Wikipedia very seriously and I'd rather have nothing at all than this sort of nastiness, which is absolutely unrepresentative of my person and my work. I'm a tough guy to write about -- one needs to be conversant in film ("a Day With Timmy Page"), music (my work in criticism, radio and record production), literature (I restored the novelist Dawn Powell to public attention), autism (I wrote about my struggles with Asperger Syndrome in "Parallel Play") and education to get a glimpse of my activity. I don't know if you have anybody who can do that -- maybe you should just remove me from the library. But I hope you will take this seriously, as I feel mangled by a huge and powerful organization that I mostly love and respect.
Sincerely,
Tim Page
Thanks so much for your decency. I never would have even posted except that what these people wrote was so charged with UNDUE WEIGHT and ORIGINAL RESEARCH. SchroCat said that he'd never had anything to do with SSilvers, not realizing that this sort of material carries a history. Poor guy -- I wish him well, but will not continue to tolerate his UNDUE emphasis on my blowup at Barry without a long examination of my prose and aesthetics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.70.79 ( talk) 03:31, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
After moving from Los Angeles County to Kern County to San Luis Obispo County, I am finally realizing that there is life in California outside of L.A. and San Francisco, where I lived and grew up. Oh, I have also lived in San Diego, San Bernardino, San Joaquin, Yolo and Sacramento counties, and I earned my undergraduate degree in Riverside County. I am trying to breathe life into the Southern California Task Force, and I hope you will join me. Could you visit our list of participants at the other end of this link and update your description of what you are interested in doing for us, assuming that you still want to be in the mix, that is.
In recompense, I will buy you a drink during the Wikipedia Week I am planning for Morro Bay on the Central Coast in July. Yours sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile ( talk) 18:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus. May I first of all thank you for all your useful creations and contributions to music biographies on Wikipedia. I see that you have also been one of the more active editors on Sibelius. You may have noticed that 2015 is the 150th anniversary of his birth with concerts and celebrations centred around 8 December. While I understand you are not too keen in participating directly in upgrades to GA or FA, I think you might be interested in improving the general quality of the article, not only by adding content but in this particular case by improving referencing and sourcing. I think it would be great if Wikipedia could contribute to the composer's international recognition in December. If you are interested, I could perhaps call on your assistance in addressing more specific issues.-- Ipigott ( talk) 14:31, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Let's get Nielsen out of the way first and we can look at that next after it is TFA (hopefully).♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:18, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Greetings Antandrus,
I spotted your name in association with a picture titled 'DanaFork.jpg'. I found it in the Sierra Nevada page. I assume you took the photo but don't really know. If so and with your approval, I'd like to use that photo on my Facebook page to temporarily entertain and amaze my friends in the bread and circus crowd. By what means would you prefer to receive credit?
sam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.44.0.202 ( talk) 21:05, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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Why you allow this type of editors on wikipedia? 2001:590:1405:1E9:FC77:E1F9:D3AF:B8C4 ( talk) 02:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your assistance but this dude has thousands of shadow clones. You may block one IP but he will create 50 more. Is a range block possible? AcidSnow ( talk) 03:03, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Dear User:Antandrus, I need some help. I am an editor at Wikipedia. I create articles and also like to edit other articles. However, I want to develop my skills further because I feel there are a lot of things I am unable to understand but for that I require the guidance of someone who is experienced in Wikipedia. Is there any way I can email you?
Pixarh ( talk) 15:08, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you ! :) But I am unable to see the link to email you. Neither at the left nor anywhere on this page.:( Yes I have had this one issue and I plan to move on rather than defending. There is so much to learn here at Wikipedia and I am very eager and excited about it. Pixarh ( talk) 19:54, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
5th Annual Wiknic rescheduled to Saturday, July 25, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm | |
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Hi Antandrus. I keep meaning to invite you for a flight or something, so before I forget again here it is. :) We recently flew along the coast from Pescadero to Oceano, and I've been whittling away at posting on our blog about it. When I got to Esalen in that process it seemed a good idea to offer a few pix to what had been a wall of text. Nudged by an angry citations note that had been plastered beneath a neutral one at the top, I also did some editing and added more citations. Now in the Talk for the page there's a suggestion (or is it a demand?) to eliminate the Criticism section I naively added. I'm a bit stumped on how to integrate the criticisms so they flow into the article, and wonder if you might have any suggestions. I notice that there have been some local and regional Wiki events, and am a bit bummed to have missed them. Is there a way to permanently Watch this page or some other way of getting advance notification on events in SB? Jw4nvc ( talk) 02:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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For having such a nice userpage! The Pancake of Heaven! ( talk) 13:31, 22 August 2015 (UTC) |
Hi, Antandrus. I noticed in your user signature, "[[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]]" appears. Is that space intentional over "[[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]]"? It makes a undesirable difference that shows up in browsers that do text wrapping in the text-editing area. Jason Quinn ( talk) 06:58, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I've seen no persuasive reasons (or any at all) why my corrections to the Poe article should have been reverted to something imprecise. As I’ve stated previously, the terms “writer” and “author” are each ambiguous. They are general terms, nonspecific, and hence imprecise. Note: the Oxford English Dictionary’s (OED) definition of writer:
1.a. A person who can write; one who practises or performs writing; occasionally, one who writes in a specified manner
and the OED’s definition of author is even broader:
1. The person who originates or gives existence to anything
It’s easy to see that “writer” is more a specific description than “author,” since an “author” could be the originator of a law or an even idea, while a “writer originates something in writing.
Now, we call a “writer” or “author” who writes poems a poet, as we do Poe. We call a “writer” or “author” who writes literary criticism a critic, as we do Poe. We call a “writer” or “author” who writes plays a playwright. We call a “writer” or “author” who writes essays an essayist. We call a “writer” or “author” who writes novels a novelist. Likewise, it only make sense that, for the sake of precision, we call a “writer” or “author” who writes short stories a short story writer.
Further, the short stories Poe wrote are often referred to as tales; and tales, like fables and parables are each a different type, or subset, if you will, of short story.
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Hello, thank you for reaching out to me and helping me. I am going to continue to flesh out this page. I have many references and am conducting the piece this spring. I was shocked there wasn't an article here already. My goal is to really flesh it out, however, I have never created a page on wikipedia. Please go ahead and help if you have the time! :) CanYouHandelThat ( talk) 04:02, 4 November 2015 (UTC)CanYouHandelThat
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Two new ones that are not yet blocked: User:Getantandrusasap User:Antbrainsmasher Meters ( talk) 20:07, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello Atandrus,
I have a question. Would it be okay with you if I used the lay-out of your user page? I really like the way you organized it. Kind regards, a new member FrozenPistachio ( talk) 12:25, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Man you're quick! You had him blocked before I even saved his username and diff for you. Meters ( talk) 22:26, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I should have blocked them yesterday when I determmined they were the same. Could be a school but then it's obvious meatpuppetry. Doug Weller ( talk) 17:07, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Sorry was going to revert back to the old pages. I wasn't seeing the changes on the webpage. Just started today. I wasn't aware of the Sandbox option. Thank you
Though I do think the "The future will partly be shaped by the need for vision, leadership, and community support of local news and journalism. The future will be shaped by what citizens and consumers choose. The decline of well paid journalism and reliable news sources could level off if enough citizens choose to support it. Newspapers have a very important role to play, by holding governments to account, trying to stop corruption, and being an important contribution to democratic free speech. The future is not inevitable or predetermined." should be rewritten.
It seems to be partially an opinion (though valid) but not cited...
May you have very Happy Holidays, Antandrus,
and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!
Best wishes from one old-timer to another,
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Hi Antandrus, I edited an article on the Dunning-Kruger effect since one of the assertions ascribed to a study is actually not in the original article. This is what is currently on the page - Their research also suggests corollaries: highly skilled individuals may underestimate their relative competence, they may erroneously assume that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others, and they may incorrectly suppose that their competence in a particular field extends to other fields in which they are less competent.[1]
However, I reviewed the original article and they do not collect data on or discuss competence extending to other fields. The edit I made was to remove "and they may incorrectly suppose that their competence in a particular field extends to other fields in which they are less competent". This is the first time I am editing a page so I did not know where to leave a comment to justify why I made the edit. But this edit makes the summary accurate.
Thanks Anu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:0:100E:302:750C:8758:3CC9:A163 ( talk) 23:06, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
You're so fast I experienced redshift! Bishonen | talk 21:35, 30 December 2015 (UTC).
Antandrus,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable
New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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. Thank you, Poepkop! Happy new year to you too. Antandrus (talk) 14:36, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Can you block him/her? (Also revert edit as well). He/she involved edit warring or genre warrior. 123.136.111.77 ( talk) 16:27, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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82.132.219.198 is a confirmed proxy. Could you consider extending your block to 'indeff'? -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 23:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Hey, I happened to stroll by for the first time in years and I saw the last edit summary you used on your talk page and it brought up happy memories of vandal and troll hunting. Awesome to see you are still kicking ass on here after all these years friend. I raise a glass to you. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 22:41, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Antandrus! I saw that you reverted vandalism on Telepathy - thanks for doing that! However, you forgot to leave a warning on the user's talk page. No worries, I went ahead and did that for you. Just wanted to let you know. Cheers, happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 23:55, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
So sorry my bad, my friend took my phone and decided to screw around a bit. Thanks for bringing this to my attention! Jordanacrlee1 ( talk) 15:27, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Was the adjustment to the quote because it looks better that way or was the previous attribution incorrect?
I do think that WP should have changed to front page to that quote in his honor. Or in some way make it part of their official motto. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 00:13, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for the block here [5]. My apologies for the snarky edit summaries while issuing warnings--just blowing off some tired steam, not directed at anyone. Cheers, 2601:188:0:ABE6:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 ( talk) 17:10, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Hey there, Antandrus.
I noticed you reversed the infobox I put on Gioachino Rossini's page in October.
Did I do anything wrong in terms of the infobox?
98.162.137.30 ( talk) 15:29, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
My bad.
So, no one should add an infobox to the Gioachino Rossini page?
If so, I won't do it again.
I didn't see the note to not put an infobox there when I edited it.
It seems as if infoboxes shouldn't even be on Wikipedia in the first place if it damages relationships.
Also, I don't really understand some of the message. No insults intended.
What do you mean, "remove the overly detailed kind?"
Should the minimalist infobox be stopped?
98.162.137.30 ( talk) 17:45, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for all you've done and do here, Antandrus. I'm sure
Signor Luzzasco thanks you too, bless him. Tanti Auguri!
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:18, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Five years now! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:57, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
... and six -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:53, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
... and seven -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:25, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Antandrus/Archive39, I want a quest. Maybe you can describe a user groups, except admins, and bureucrats? Thank you.--... Lhealt (talk) 12:22, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Koroshami
You said Zarlino was 5 yo. Point taken. However the reference I quoted is in Zarlino's Dimostrationi harmoniche" How can that be explained? The full paragraph I lifted reads: In fatto ha uete ragione à dire, che la Diatessaron sia consonanza: & hanno il torto tutti quelli prattici, che la pongono nel numero delle Dissonanze: ma sono da escusare in questo: che non sanno quel, che si facciano. Adri. Questi ch’hno questa opinione sono in errore. Et mi recordo, che innzi di noi quei buoni Antichi Giosquino, il suo Maestro Gio. Ocheg: Gascogne, & il mio precettore Gio. Motone, in molti luoghi delle loro compositioni l’hanno posta nella parte graue: senza aggiungerle altro in teruallo. Holuigue ( talk) 21:03, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
I thought I was only correcting a misprint. Admittedly, the tomb stone has disappeared, but it is a document that appears quite credible and coherent. The date of his death is accepted by everybody, and it comes from there. I am puzzled Holuigue ( talk) 21:11, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Did I jump the gun in suggesting he was poached ? I don't think so because his departure caused quite a stir 26.10.1502 Deinde anno quo supra et die veneris XXVI octobris domini... capitulum tenentes dederunt, assignaverunt domino Claudio de Aula presbitero habituato ipsius ecclesie libram presbiteralem vaccantem nunc per recessum absque licencia capituli Johannis Houlievugues dit Mouton magistri cantus.. [1]
Then later, queen Anne went out of her way to smooth things over, and the following text suggests that it took some pressure: 22.4.1509 Deinde die dominica XXII aprilis millesimo quingentesimo nono circa horam primi pulsus vesperorum congregati in capitulo venerabiles domini Hugo Farcilly ... ipsi predicti domini tam nominibus suis quam ceterorum dominorum prepositi et canonicorum absencium ad votum et requisitionem serenissime et christianissime domine nostre domine Anne regine Francie que tunc ibidem in domo thesaurarie contigue dicte ecclesie presens personaliter intererat hospitata; que vive vocis oraculo apud capitulum ipsum intercesserat ut contemplacione ipsius ipsum capitulum vellet creare in dicta ecclesia in canonicum et fratrem veneraabilem virum dominum Johannem Motones dit Houlvigues presbiterum et cantarem cappelle ipsius domine regine cum expectatione prime future vaccature prebende, se ultro hoc faciendo offerendo paratam obsequi et recognituram acceptabile placitum tempore adveniente quo ipsa posset pro bono universalivel particulari dicte ecclesie prout jam per litteras suas missivas et pro eodem Motonis et requisierat et pollicita erat. Qui quidem domini canonici habita matura deliberatione volentes complacere predicte domine ut tenentur et de jure suadentur et etiam habito respectu ad personagium pro quo fiebat requesta et peticio qui vir dignus et laudabilis est ac ecclesie ipsi necessarius ipsum in canonicum et fratrem ipsius ecclesie quathenus de jure potuerint et debuerint creaverunt et nominaverunt ad expectationemprime future vaccature prebende ut potuerunt, salvis prius juribus dicte ecclesie et suis quibus propter hoc in nullo intendunt derrogare; recepto ab eodem domino Petrus Motonis juramento solempni in similibus per canonicos prestari solito juxta forman juramenti contentam in missali novo dicte ecclesie quod quidem juramentum ipse sponte corporaliter genibus flexis cum ambabus manibus sponte prestitit. Acta fuerunt hec infra dictum capitulum dictis die anno et hora presentibus ibidem venerabilibus dominis Petro Motonis organiste predicte domine regine, Gaspardo Pillaudi Pedro Gerbati prebiteris dicte ecclesie, magistro Ludovico Argensonis notario, Petro Salvani mercatore dicte civitatis Gratianopolitane, Johanne Voisin de Blays familiari predicte regine testibus astantibus requisitis et rogatis hoc salvo et retento per dictum capitulum quod a cetero per quamcumque requisitionem seu requestam faciendam non intendunt ulterius creacionem de aliquo faecere in canonicum sed fecerunt et faciunt editum et statutum quod de cetero non possint nec valeant aliquem alium nec creare nec facere. Tandem dato et tradito habitu canonicali eidem domino Motonis dominus Farcilly cantor tanquam antiquior canonicus de madato totius capituli eumdem dominum Motonis cum habitu canonicali eumdem intra chorum ecclesie introducit et eumdem in sede canonicali ultimo et novissimo canonico debita a parte sedis domini prepositi assignavit et eum in eadem sedere et stare cum habitu canonicali fecit sedem ipsam in ipso choro assignando cum expectatione ut supra prime vaccature nullum aliud jus propter hoc assignando nisi quod de jure sibi debetur etc ... In presentia predictorum testium et plurium aliorum. De quibus ipse dominus Motonis acta sibi fieri petiit et dictum capitulum concessit per me subsignatum secretarium capituli. Bernardi [2]
Holuigue ( talk) 23:46, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Apologies. Thanks for the change I must admit that my Italian is nil, like my latin! I did hesitate to translate precettore by teacher or mentor. However, this quote is worth referring to, with proper wrapping, given Mouton's reputation as a teacher, and the indisputed, towering reputation of Zarlino. Holuigue ( talk) 23:55, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
The association of Mouton with the village of Hautwignes is spurious and totally unfounded. I found this in the family archives: 1473 in Nordausques(near St Omer) Philippe de Bersecques is lord of Welles (Nordausques) and Hollinghes. He is captain of the castle of Eperlecques Hollinghes, fief of the parish of Nordausques, figures in a 1452 map Sorry, no reference for the information ! The name Holuigue is frequent in the area and there is no convincing argument to attach it to a specific village. Andrew Kirkman (Birmingham University) has explored the well preserved archives of the Collegiale in St Omer. I noted (excuse my french !)
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Andrew Kirkman, en recherchant les archives de la Collégiale de St-Omer (largement préservées à la Bibliothèque de Saint-Omer, sur une période de 400 ans. Sur la période de 1460 à 1490, il ne manque que deux ans et demi de comptes de la fabrique), a trouvé la mention suivante, datée du 25 Aout 1494:
“Item le xxve d’aoust a maistre Jehan Mouton du cant lequel a escript au livre deschant deux messes pour sa paine”
Les comptes de la fabrique pour l’année suivante mentionnent un travail de copiiste substantiel entrepris par Mouton. Son nom est qualifié de “de Holluighe”, donc son identification est sans ambiguité:
“Item audit maistre Jehan de Holluighe pour une main de pappier Carte Realle pour escripre aucunes messes au grant livre de discant au coeur: iiii s” “Item audit maistre Jehan pour avoir Regle ledit pappier et escript trois messes nouvelles: xvi s” “Item audit maistre Jehan pour avoir escript encoures audit livre trois autres messe: xv s” Sur la page suivante du même compte, Mouton est payé pour la rédaction d’un manuscrit complet: “ Item a maistre Jehan de holluighes pour une main de pappier le avoir Regle/ et compose ung livre de Magnificat sur tous les tons Te Deum et autres chose en discant mis au coeur de ladit eglise duquel par lordonnance de messires G.Decault. R.De monte et R poilly commis a viseter ledit livre par Capitle paye xxviii s”
Il apparait donc que Mouton, durant ces deux années d’activité de copiiste, chantait aussi aux services religieux. Un document des Actes du Chapitre, daté de Septembre 1495, lui accorde le paiement de ce qui parait être une ‘distribution’, tout en spécifiant que ce paiement est une continuation de paiements faits l’année précédente. En outre il apparait que Mouton était employé comme ‘remplaçant’, car le document spécifie qu’il sera payé jusqu’au retour de Michael Le Gay, vicaire, qui bénéficie d’un congé de plusieurs mois: “Eadem die [18.9.95] domini continuando gratiam anno preterito factam petro sommelart thenoriste magistro Johanni mouton et petro [sommelart, crossed out, followed by blank] concesserunt eisdem gratiam eandem videlicet petro xij d. ..Johanni xij.d. .. et petro ix d. usque ad omnium sanctorum et alijs videlicet thenoriste et mouton per totum annum aut dicto mouton usque ad adventum d.[omini] michaelis le gay vicarii” Les archives de la collégiale nous fournissent aussi des renseignements sur d’autres personnages, qu’il nous faut bien considérer comme des parents ‘potentiels’ de notre musicien:
?.1463 ‘franciscus de holluigues’est nommé vicaire
9. 1.1464 ‘franciscus de holluigues’ est nommé chapelain à l’autel de ‘beate marie de ? capella’ 1. 5.1465 ‘franciscus de holluigues’ bénéficie d’une prébende rendue libre par ‘Nicolai de aula’ 4. 4.1475 ‘Jacobo Moton’est nommé chapelain de ‘beate marie’
26.1.1478 ‘jacobo de Holluige’est nommé chapelain de Ste Catherine, dans la paroisse du Saint Sepulcre — Preceding
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I put all my info together, but could not find a way to include a couple of scans. So, I will try something else. My final text is at
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I just happily stumbled upon your essays. The one with the title OWB was particularly useful. It would have been even more helpful to me years ago. But perhaps it is not too late to become a bit wiser. Thanks. Caballero/Historiador ⎌ 16:56, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, I've got some esoteric questions about free music.
I run a recording studio as part of my job, and have taken to recording my own versions of compositions. Since I only do this as a personal exercise, I don't mind releasing them with the appropriate free licence. The most obvious example is a rock band arrangement of Maurice Ravel's Boléro (using Hammond organ, Rhodes piano, electric guitars, bass and drums), which I believe has recently entered the public domain. I have sent this around to a couple of Wikipedians via email and they liked it.
Where should I upload the music and how should I categorise it. Would it be suitable to link it into Boléro's article? I'm not sure it would, as it's not a well-known arrangement of any significance or discussed in any sources.
A tricker example is a cover of Pink Floyd's " Astronomy Domine", which is part of an exercise of having free covers of well-known songs, in a similar manner to open-source clones of Microsoft Office. While the recording is all my own work, playing all the instruments, the composition is not - does a song that is still generating songwriter royalties prevent any recording from being freely uploaded? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:21, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus! We've got a persistent problem with this editor. He was indef blocked here for adding hoax text and articles, generally consisting of garbled Google translations, "supported" by spurious references. He is now globally locked for doing this across multiple Wikis. Background here, here, and most recently here. The problem is that in addition to creating multiple (now blocked) sock accounts, he attempts editing almost every day as a hopping IP—almost invariably Telecom Italia based in or around Milan, but sometimes uses WIND. Typical example: [6] and note the additional cross-wiki socking on the same day: [7]
Would it be possible to semi-protect two articles which he assaults on an almost a daily basis— Fernando Carcupino and Carlo Biotti? As you can see from the edit histories, the IPs are all the same person and the only IPs to attempt editing these articles. Justlettersandnumbers and I are basically the only editors here keeping a watch on him with occasional help from an admin on Italian Wikipedia, AttoRenato. Reverting his multiple socking edits is getting extremely tedious. I must have at least 30 of his favourite target articles on my watchlist and it's growing. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 08:13, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I was just browsing Wikipedia, reading, and learning when I stumbled upon your article "Observations on Wikipedia behavior". I made me laugh and cry and then it made me think about all the virtues and vices shown by humanity as a whole. Wikipedia with all its ups and downs is really what we humans as a species really are. There is so much wisdom in this essay that one can't possibly mention them in a few sentences without neglecting one of them or another. Thanks again, since I'm sure you are indifferent to praise. Alireza1357 ( talk) 09:08, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
"Troublesome editors waste far more of the community's time than vandals. One who sometimes makes good edits, but endlessly bickers, threatens, insults, whines, and is eventually banned, will have taken hundreds of hours from other users who would have better spent that time building the encyclopedia. ..." Too true! Cheers, -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 20:53, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi! Thank you for dealing with the revision deletion at The Holocaust. Unless there's something I've missed, I think the revisions from 780298405 to 780357957 should also be hidden – the compromised content added with revision 779320159 is still visible in them. Many thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:33, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Antadrus, thank you for taking the time to point out where I erred. I will appreciate your help in implementing my editions.
My editions to "North Africa" in article on "Holocaust." == I am really sorry, but I don't know how to enter discussion. Thank you for putting an eye to this important article.
My goal is to improve the article, in a peaceful and respectful manner. I completely agree: that I have to use copyrighted publications as a source of information, under fair use, and that I have to copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. … The material may also be rewritten, providing it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore, such paraphrased portions must provide their source. … Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously.
According to the above statements, Wikipedia should allow me to add to the “Holocaust” Wikipedia article, because I am using the same books/authors/sources mentioned by other editors, and thus, my additions meet Wikipedia’s requirements of neutrality.
Wikipedia's editors and administration shouldn't pick and choose what to quote from same authors. I have no doubt in my mind, that Wikipedia administrators and editors don’t want to discriminate.
And my editions, based on Longerich, Bauer, Yahil, and Gilbert, clearly show that Wikipedia should not have a section called "North Africa" which Yad Vashem, a partisan group, does.
Longerich, Bauer, Yahil, and Gilbert, very clearly and unambiguously, narrate 1) the history of the fate of the Jews in Vichy North Africa and Italian Libya, as an integral part of the Holocaust in France (comprised of the Metropole and its overseas territories - see Poznanski, Bauer, Longerich), and Italy respectively (the number of victims there should be added to the number of the victims in “France” and “Italy”), and 2) as an integral part of the Final Solution and the Holocaust of the Jews of Europe/European Jews.
So, administration of wikipedia should allow me to use content by Longerich, Bauer, Yahil, and Gilbert to present the Holocaust of the Jews of France and Italy and the Holocaust in Europe/of European Jews, as inclusive of the persecution of the Jews living in Europe's overseas territories, because
a) The Holocaust of the Jews of Europe/European Jews took place in the political context of imperial Europe, as presented by Bauer, Yahil and Longerich; b) all serious scholars now agree that the Holocaust was not a geographical continental event/genocide, like described by Yad Vashem, sometimes, but a political process and project: it was the state-sponsored - by state laws and policies- persecution of the Jews and other undesirables, and evolved according to geo-political borders, and not continental borders - as very clearly presented in Yahil, Bauer, Longerich, and Gilbert.
Moreover, during the Holocaust period, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Libya didn't exist as independent political entities, but were governed by European nations, in the context of the new imperialism.
Some more comments
1. Henia (Hanna in Polish) and Rachelle (my granma's name) are the same person (I opened a new account with my laptop, because I didn't remember my password - I will now use only one account.
2. My purpose is not to plagiarize, but make sure that if wikipedia editors cite authors or let other editors cite authors such as Bauer, Yahil, Gilbert, Longerich and others, those editors should allow other quotations by same authors from same books by me, and not delete them - of course, I will be more than happy to comply with wikipedia policies and guidelines.
Please, ask the editors to specify, in details, the copyrights violations - I don't have the books of Yahil, Longerich, and Bauer with me, as I just moved to CA. I have put valid references to my editions. I have only quoted one or two short sentences, that was allowed by wikipedia (I did read the Wikipedia chapter on citations". I did read in 'wikipedia citations' that one sentence can be quoted.
3. Why are some editors allowed to support their definition of Holocaust by mentioning only the name of the authors, but not the book, and not the page, like in:
The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστος holókaustos: hólos, "whole" and kaustós, "burnt"),[2] also referred to as the Shoah (Hebrew: השואה, HaShoah, "the catastrophe"), was a genocide in which some six million European Jews were killed by Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, and the World War II collaborators with the Nazis.[3][b] 3: Snyder 2010, pp. 389, 413, chpt. Numbers and Terms b: • • Further examples of this usage can be found in: Bauer 2002, (2002). Rethinking the Holocaust. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press. {{cite pages}} Cesarani 2004, Dawidowicz 1981, Evans 2002, Gilbert 1986, Hilberg 1996, Longerich 2012, Phayer 2000, Zuccotti 1999.
Bauer's definition: “Let us be clear: … Shoah, Churban, Judeocide, whatever we call it, is the name we give to the attempted planned total physical annihilation of the Jewish people, and its partial perpetration with the murder of most of the Jews of Europe.” Rethinking the Holocuast, Bauer states: : “The Holocaust is an extreme example of the context of despair. It was motivated by a murderous ideology.” A racist ideological war, and Nazism or National Socialism was the ideology behind the Holocaust. Therefore, the racist national domestic, and international goals of the main perpetrator, Nazi Germany led by Hitler, and the characteristics of Nazism determined the definition of the Holocaust and its victims.”
Again, 1) I am asking that the editor who mentioned "Bauer 2002, (2002). Rethinking the Holocaust. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press. Cesarani 2004, Dawidowicz 1981, Evans 2002, Gilbert 1986, Hilberg 1996, Longerich 2012, Phayer 2000, Zuccotti 1999" cite the name of the books and the page; and 2) that Wikipedia allows me to present a content based on Yahil, Gilbert, Bauer and Longerich, to show that the persecution of the Jews in Vichy North Africa and Italian Libya is an integral part of the Holocaust in France and Italy respectively, and an integral part of the Holocaust of the Jews of Europe/European Jews, as clearly supported by Yahil, Bauer, Longerich and Gilbert.
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So I'm reading a biography of Cornelius Cardew and got to wondering if Stockhausen Serves Imperialism merits its own Wikipedia article. It's mentioned at Refrain (Stockhausen) and Cornelius Cardew but seems to have been widely enough noted that it may deserve to be spun off and expanded. Are you familiar with it? Thoughts? Shock Brigade Harvester Boris ( talk) 04:20, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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Mr. A: I am new and want to tear my hair out. Putting together a page for a person is the most difficult anger provoking assignment I have ever had. The person has material not on-line from the mid-Eighties. It is not on the internet (articles from magazines and such). I attempted to post a view of the articles as photos and they were removed by a girl in Russia. This is in the sandbox version which I thought was a type of playground. This spooked me out of my seat! I watched these items disappear before my eyes. Everything about Wikipedia so far has been non-user friendly. I don't know if this is intentional. Replies to other users seem to be snarky and smug. While originally excited by this assignment I now have a bad taste in my mouth. The magazines are out of business. Tried the journal citation and there are quite a few boxes as you are probably aware. When/if the sandbox version is done can I upload it to Wikipedia where I assume tech vultures will pick it apart until it is bones. LOL/ Please advise Lost In Space — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amityville73 ( talk • contribs) 08:26, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Are you responsible for the translation of the eight composition rules on the Johannes Tinctoris page?
It seems to me there's a mistranslation. It reads "Rule #6 It is forbidden to repeat the same melodic turn above a cantus firmus of equally long notes, unless cantus firmus has a repetition in itself."
I'm not able to entirely decipher the original Latin, nor am I able to find alternative interpretations of the Latin online -- just copy pastings of the Wikipedia piece.
The only other translation I've found is within the English version of Knud Jeppesen's book "Counterpoint: Polyphonic Vocal Style of the Sixteenth Century ". On page 12 he writes "Sixth rule: Redicta, that is, repetition of of the same melodic idiom, is not permitted over a cantus firmus in notes of equal value, and least of all if the cantus firmus itself contains such a repetition. This applies likewise to written compositions, although one uses such idioms occassionally in order to imitate the sound of bells or of horns."
Jeppesen seems to interpret Tinctorus to mean that you especially ought not to repeat an idiom if the cantus firmus also contains a repetition. The Wikipedia article claims the opposite. It also omits the rest of the writings about imitating bells, which is present in the original Latin.
Which is correct?
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.97.66 ( talk) 21:25, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
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Antandrus - thank you for your vigilance in lots of areas. Recently, you reverted, wholesale, several additions to the Italian Renaissance page. While I agree with you that there are problems in the additions, I have two questions about how your chose to respond to those. (1) Given the incorporation of academic sourcing for these additions, might a more judiciious/surgical edit have been appropriate? and (2) By treating the addition as a single entity, rather than as disparate sections, it seems to be "throwing the baby out with the bath water". Is there a way to engage with editoris - particularly new editors, in the case of these additions - in a way that opens dialgue and increases learning & awareness. I would contend that your wholesale revert shortchanged these editors and shortchanged the article. DOstendorff ( talk) 19:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC) NOTE: By shortchange, I mean to indicate that there were perhaps opportunities for these new editors to be guided along and information that might have been helpful incorporated into the present article. DOstendorff ( talk) 19:58, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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Hello! Could you please delete Atlantic.net so I can move Atlantic.Net to this title? There is no reason to capitalize the ".Net". L293D ( ✉) 20:16, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Could you please protect the article about Devin Nunes? if you look at the article's history, it's full of vandalism and reverts. Thanks, L293D ( ✉ ) 14:00, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Could you please protect the article about Nusrat Badr? The last 45 edit are all vandalisms by IPs and mobile IPs. Also, if you have a tool to undo 45 vandalisms at the same time, it would help. Thank you. L293D ( ✉) 19:26, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Could you please block 47.38.214.2? He has done 13 edits, all of which were vandalisms. L293D ( ✉ ) 03:15, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello! Its me again. could you please protect Penn Foster High School? The whole page history is full of vandalism with me and ClueBot reverting it. L293D ( ✉ ) 03:29, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
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The opening line is prolix and horrid. If you won't let me edit it, come up with something better. Also, 'Passion Oratorio' is used in several other articles, not to mention the Encyclopedia Brittanica. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.50.77.46 ( talk) 22:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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The edit summary is supposed to explain why you performed an edit. Your summary of the revert of my edit, "nah", is not a summary, but an extremely simple rebuttal. Please explain to me here why you believe that the claim you made does not require a citation. You are essentially attacking a portion of the population and refusing to provide evidence for your attack. Yes, it's just an essay. But I will not stand idly by when I see a baseless attack on Wikipedia, no matter where it is. Again, please explain why you do not believe the claim requires a citation.
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<outdent>@DesertPipeline: please stop badgering Antrandus. From some thousands of vandalism reverts, interactions with their authors, and as a former adolescent boy, I can assure you that nearly all of our puerile vandals are adolescent boys. Antrandus's observations aren't an encyclopedia article requiring citations, and twelve years of experience on my part supports his observations, up to and including interactions with law enforcement agencies on several occasions. Acroterion (talk) 00:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
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I came across two excellent maps that provide much greater detail regarding LA City Oil Field. I have no clue as to how to add these to the Wiki page and was hoping that you could help. My interest in this is twofold - I grew up at 376 S. Westmoreland, 90020 & I'm interested in possible soil contamination & exposure. I'd be happy to forward you the photos Thanks, Chris cbyrne2018@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plumbstar ( talk • contribs) 02:26, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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I am the author of the copy-pasted work from Moglen's wiki. Can you please stop deleting it, this is for a final assignment for his class. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaa2204 ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
That's my new Middle English word of the day. I imagine it's closely related to the modern "piss-ant," now that I think of it. Acroterion (talk) 01:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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You blocked an IP sock of a blocked user, the same user apparently uses more IPs doing exactly the same edits [2]. Jeppiz ( talk) 00:16, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I edited the page Antonio Vivaldi by correcting typos and adding to intro of the page. What I added was to the statement "Composed many instrumental concertos for violin and a variety of other instruments" I added "Composed over Five hundred instrumental concertos" You then messaged me saying that you removed my edits and saying that they appeared to be vandalism. Why do you consider this as vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio Bononcini ( talk • contribs) 19:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I corrected typos and my comments as "Greatest Italian baroque composer" are opinions as are all the comments on his music, the page says "one of the greatest baroque composers"you didn't flag whoever that was for adding opinions. Neither did you flag the person who wrote "he is recognized as one of the greatest Baroque composers" thats an opinion as well what is wrong with adding such opinions? I just added facts and corrected typos for example the page said "employed from 1703 to 1715 and from 1723 to 1740" to which I added "employed from 1703 to 1715 and from 1723 to 1740 a total of forty years". Is that vandalism? Did I put in incorrect dates? No. Did I delete previous work? No. Did I add any incorrect statements? No. Did I delete anything? No. The words I added were just descriptions like "He is known mainly for composing many instrumental concertos" I added "He is known mainly for composing over five hundred instrumental concertos" which is more descriptive and is a fact and I believe this was better than the original. I would not consider anything I added as vandalism. What are YOU doing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio Bononcini ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
WHAT spelling mistakes did I add? If I wrote "I added capitalization and punctuation misteaks." It was an accident but I did not add any spelling misteaks to the page so WHY did you send me a warning about vandalization. Or was it just because I gave an incorrect description of my edits? That hardly constitutes vandalization. If I wanted to vandalize I would have done it by now, or don't you think so. I have vandalized nothing you have no basis for deleting my edits and I use my previous rebuttles as my arguments. Also capitalizing the word "Greatest" as I did was not a spelling error as in this instance it was used as a title, so it's not a spelling error. I added no spelling or punctuation mistakes, so what did I vandalize? Did delete dates? No. Add incorrect dates? No. Did I erase anything? No. What did I do which constitiutes vandalizm. The most I did if anything that would be debatable is incorrectly describe my edits but other than that I ask again, what did I vandalize? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio Bononcini ( talk • contribs) 07:58, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you ;D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio Bononcini ( talk • contribs) 18:14, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus! Thank you for welcoming all of the newbies who participated in the Art+Feminism Edit-A-Thon at the University of California, Santa Barbara yesterday. It was a very successful event! Arthistorygrrl ( talk) 23:16, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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I had a great time reading your observations on Wikipedia. And the nearer to the end, the better they were. Iry-Hor ( talk) 21:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Thanks so much for your seriousness. I thought that my full letter to Wikipedia might be helpful.
My name is Tim Page and I am the author or editor of more than 20 books. I worked at the New York Times, Newsday and finally the Washington Post, where I won the Pulitzer Prize for Criticism in 1997. I am currently a full professor in two departments at the University of Southern California.
And yet, due to the repeated intrusions of two demonstrably hostile editors of my page, one would think that all I've done in a career that stretches back almost 50 years, is beat up on all young prodigies and sass back to the late Washington D.C. mayor Marion Barry.
I would suggest that these two editors -- SSilvers and especially SchroCat -- have determined to give undue weight to two minor events in my career, with the specific intent of distorting my career
In the first instance, SSilvers (who is the editor of all the pages devoted to the prodigy Jackie Evancho) has been trying to turn me into a kiddie-stomper for a single article I wrote about Ms. Evancho in December 2011. OK, it was a negative article but I think a fair reader would glean that it was mostly about the music business and the way it eats its young -- a warning against premature exposure. Others may differ, of course, but to turn this one article (buttressed with a short paragraph in a 2000-word reflection on the highs and lows of a career in music criticism) into some kind of personal creed is preposterous. If somebody were to write a 3000 word piece on my work, it might have a place, but I've written hundreds of very positive reviews of young artists and to make this the centerpiece of my career is a clear case of original research -- and shoddy research at that.
I'm always uncomfortable touching up my Wikipedia page but I've done it on a couple of occasions, beginning when somebody suggested I wrote a book called "Descent into Madness: My Struggle with Homosexuality" back in October of 2008. (The fact is that I am a straight man, divorced twice, with three children and to refer to my Asperger Syndrome as "madness" is clearly slander.) And so, in 2012, I felt I needed to defend my work and add the names of some of the artists I had nurtured when they were very young: I included Hilary Hahn, Evgeny Kissin, and Midori (all teenaged when I first reviewed them -- indeed, I wrote the very first major profile of the last of these). There was some back and forth editorial discussion but we finally came out with what seemed a fair piece -- hardly fawning but with no errors of distortions of fact.
As such, it came as a surprise when I visited the page a month or two back and found that SSilvers had restored the material about Evancho, including my distinctly grotesque image of her onstage persona that I chose deliberately to make a point about what Evancho's handlers were doing to a talented child. At the same time, all the other prodigies I had supported were removed from the piece, leaving the impression that my dearest wish was to stomp all over child stars. Add to this the fact that SSilvers had called me a "thoughtless, nasty man" in talk pages on Wikipedia. As a journalist, I would recuse myself from writing about anybody I disliked so much, and to simply stick this in as the longest paragraph of my biography was clearly malicious.
I did my best to correct matters and though I'd found an ally in SchroCat who removed the corrections and wrote a frosty note, but DID explain the Wiki policy on sourcing. He said he neither knew nor cared who had written the Evancho restoration (this is beginning to sound like Tudor politics!) and said he had no time to make the corrections himself, but seemed a decent enough person. So I learned how to put the references into the piece, spending most of an afternoon on this and not doing a terribly good job on it but hoping that we had finally managed a fair appraisal.
He took out almost all of the corrections (some of the newspapers are no longer allowing early work to be presented without cost) and then added a long paragraph about an unfortunate blow-up I had with the late Marion Barry in 2007. Talk about undue weight! Barry was a controversial man with many supporters and just as many detractors -- I had been bullied by his staff when I asked them to take my address off their mailing list, and I overreacted, after which I apologized. Bingo -- end of story, until SchroCat decided to bring it up seven years later. If you wanted to mention everybody who has ever written negatively about Marion Barry, you'd have to expand your bandwidth -- and now this is the longest paragraph in my biography! Moreover, my leave of absence with the Post had been set up LONG before this took place.
Look -- I love Wikipedia. It's one of the great joys of on-line life. I go to it at least two or three times a day. But this sort of attack really isn't cricket. I'm not going to compare it to the Siegenthaler affair -- there is at least some truth in what these editors have chosen to glorify. But it's a little like a bio of Roman Polanski that talks mostly about his long-ago rape allegation and ignores the fact that he made "Chinatown."
I'm embarrassed to have to complain, but the world now takes Wikipedia very seriously and I'd rather have nothing at all than this sort of nastiness, which is absolutely unrepresentative of my person and my work. I'm a tough guy to write about -- one needs to be conversant in film ("a Day With Timmy Page"), music (my work in criticism, radio and record production), literature (I restored the novelist Dawn Powell to public attention), autism (I wrote about my struggles with Asperger Syndrome in "Parallel Play") and education to get a glimpse of my activity. I don't know if you have anybody who can do that -- maybe you should just remove me from the library. But I hope you will take this seriously, as I feel mangled by a huge and powerful organization that I mostly love and respect.
Sincerely,
Tim Page
Thanks so much for your decency. I never would have even posted except that what these people wrote was so charged with UNDUE WEIGHT and ORIGINAL RESEARCH. SchroCat said that he'd never had anything to do with SSilvers, not realizing that this sort of material carries a history. Poor guy -- I wish him well, but will not continue to tolerate his UNDUE emphasis on my blowup at Barry without a long examination of my prose and aesthetics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.70.79 ( talk) 03:31, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
After moving from Los Angeles County to Kern County to San Luis Obispo County, I am finally realizing that there is life in California outside of L.A. and San Francisco, where I lived and grew up. Oh, I have also lived in San Diego, San Bernardino, San Joaquin, Yolo and Sacramento counties, and I earned my undergraduate degree in Riverside County. I am trying to breathe life into the Southern California Task Force, and I hope you will join me. Could you visit our list of participants at the other end of this link and update your description of what you are interested in doing for us, assuming that you still want to be in the mix, that is.
In recompense, I will buy you a drink during the Wikipedia Week I am planning for Morro Bay on the Central Coast in July. Yours sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile ( talk) 18:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus. May I first of all thank you for all your useful creations and contributions to music biographies on Wikipedia. I see that you have also been one of the more active editors on Sibelius. You may have noticed that 2015 is the 150th anniversary of his birth with concerts and celebrations centred around 8 December. While I understand you are not too keen in participating directly in upgrades to GA or FA, I think you might be interested in improving the general quality of the article, not only by adding content but in this particular case by improving referencing and sourcing. I think it would be great if Wikipedia could contribute to the composer's international recognition in December. If you are interested, I could perhaps call on your assistance in addressing more specific issues.-- Ipigott ( talk) 14:31, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Let's get Nielsen out of the way first and we can look at that next after it is TFA (hopefully).♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:18, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Greetings Antandrus,
I spotted your name in association with a picture titled 'DanaFork.jpg'. I found it in the Sierra Nevada page. I assume you took the photo but don't really know. If so and with your approval, I'd like to use that photo on my Facebook page to temporarily entertain and amaze my friends in the bread and circus crowd. By what means would you prefer to receive credit?
sam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.44.0.202 ( talk) 21:05, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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Why you allow this type of editors on wikipedia? 2001:590:1405:1E9:FC77:E1F9:D3AF:B8C4 ( talk) 02:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your assistance but this dude has thousands of shadow clones. You may block one IP but he will create 50 more. Is a range block possible? AcidSnow ( talk) 03:03, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Dear User:Antandrus, I need some help. I am an editor at Wikipedia. I create articles and also like to edit other articles. However, I want to develop my skills further because I feel there are a lot of things I am unable to understand but for that I require the guidance of someone who is experienced in Wikipedia. Is there any way I can email you?
Pixarh ( talk) 15:08, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you ! :) But I am unable to see the link to email you. Neither at the left nor anywhere on this page.:( Yes I have had this one issue and I plan to move on rather than defending. There is so much to learn here at Wikipedia and I am very eager and excited about it. Pixarh ( talk) 19:54, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Antandrus. I keep meaning to invite you for a flight or something, so before I forget again here it is. :) We recently flew along the coast from Pescadero to Oceano, and I've been whittling away at posting on our blog about it. When I got to Esalen in that process it seemed a good idea to offer a few pix to what had been a wall of text. Nudged by an angry citations note that had been plastered beneath a neutral one at the top, I also did some editing and added more citations. Now in the Talk for the page there's a suggestion (or is it a demand?) to eliminate the Criticism section I naively added. I'm a bit stumped on how to integrate the criticisms so they flow into the article, and wonder if you might have any suggestions. I notice that there have been some local and regional Wiki events, and am a bit bummed to have missed them. Is there a way to permanently Watch this page or some other way of getting advance notification on events in SB? Jw4nvc ( talk) 02:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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For having such a nice userpage! The Pancake of Heaven! ( talk) 13:31, 22 August 2015 (UTC) |
Hi, Antandrus. I noticed in your user signature, "[[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]]" appears. Is that space intentional over "[[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]]"? It makes a undesirable difference that shows up in browsers that do text wrapping in the text-editing area. Jason Quinn ( talk) 06:58, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I've seen no persuasive reasons (or any at all) why my corrections to the Poe article should have been reverted to something imprecise. As I’ve stated previously, the terms “writer” and “author” are each ambiguous. They are general terms, nonspecific, and hence imprecise. Note: the Oxford English Dictionary’s (OED) definition of writer:
1.a. A person who can write; one who practises or performs writing; occasionally, one who writes in a specified manner
and the OED’s definition of author is even broader:
1. The person who originates or gives existence to anything
It’s easy to see that “writer” is more a specific description than “author,” since an “author” could be the originator of a law or an even idea, while a “writer originates something in writing.
Now, we call a “writer” or “author” who writes poems a poet, as we do Poe. We call a “writer” or “author” who writes literary criticism a critic, as we do Poe. We call a “writer” or “author” who writes plays a playwright. We call a “writer” or “author” who writes essays an essayist. We call a “writer” or “author” who writes novels a novelist. Likewise, it only make sense that, for the sake of precision, we call a “writer” or “author” who writes short stories a short story writer.
Further, the short stories Poe wrote are often referred to as tales; and tales, like fables and parables are each a different type, or subset, if you will, of short story.
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Hello, thank you for reaching out to me and helping me. I am going to continue to flesh out this page. I have many references and am conducting the piece this spring. I was shocked there wasn't an article here already. My goal is to really flesh it out, however, I have never created a page on wikipedia. Please go ahead and help if you have the time! :) CanYouHandelThat ( talk) 04:02, 4 November 2015 (UTC)CanYouHandelThat
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Two new ones that are not yet blocked: User:Getantandrusasap User:Antbrainsmasher Meters ( talk) 20:07, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello Atandrus,
I have a question. Would it be okay with you if I used the lay-out of your user page? I really like the way you organized it. Kind regards, a new member FrozenPistachio ( talk) 12:25, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Man you're quick! You had him blocked before I even saved his username and diff for you. Meters ( talk) 22:26, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I should have blocked them yesterday when I determmined they were the same. Could be a school but then it's obvious meatpuppetry. Doug Weller ( talk) 17:07, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Sorry was going to revert back to the old pages. I wasn't seeing the changes on the webpage. Just started today. I wasn't aware of the Sandbox option. Thank you
Though I do think the "The future will partly be shaped by the need for vision, leadership, and community support of local news and journalism. The future will be shaped by what citizens and consumers choose. The decline of well paid journalism and reliable news sources could level off if enough citizens choose to support it. Newspapers have a very important role to play, by holding governments to account, trying to stop corruption, and being an important contribution to democratic free speech. The future is not inevitable or predetermined." should be rewritten.
It seems to be partially an opinion (though valid) but not cited...
May you have very Happy Holidays, Antandrus,
and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!
Best wishes from one old-timer to another,
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Hi Antandrus, I edited an article on the Dunning-Kruger effect since one of the assertions ascribed to a study is actually not in the original article. This is what is currently on the page - Their research also suggests corollaries: highly skilled individuals may underestimate their relative competence, they may erroneously assume that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others, and they may incorrectly suppose that their competence in a particular field extends to other fields in which they are less competent.[1]
However, I reviewed the original article and they do not collect data on or discuss competence extending to other fields. The edit I made was to remove "and they may incorrectly suppose that their competence in a particular field extends to other fields in which they are less competent". This is the first time I am editing a page so I did not know where to leave a comment to justify why I made the edit. But this edit makes the summary accurate.
Thanks Anu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:0:100E:302:750C:8758:3CC9:A163 ( talk) 23:06, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
You're so fast I experienced redshift! Bishonen | talk 21:35, 30 December 2015 (UTC).
Antandrus,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable
New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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. Thank you, Poepkop! Happy new year to you too. Antandrus (talk) 14:36, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Can you block him/her? (Also revert edit as well). He/she involved edit warring or genre warrior. 123.136.111.77 ( talk) 16:27, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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82.132.219.198 is a confirmed proxy. Could you consider extending your block to 'indeff'? -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 23:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Hey, I happened to stroll by for the first time in years and I saw the last edit summary you used on your talk page and it brought up happy memories of vandal and troll hunting. Awesome to see you are still kicking ass on here after all these years friend. I raise a glass to you. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 22:41, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Antandrus! I saw that you reverted vandalism on Telepathy - thanks for doing that! However, you forgot to leave a warning on the user's talk page. No worries, I went ahead and did that for you. Just wanted to let you know. Cheers, happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 23:55, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
So sorry my bad, my friend took my phone and decided to screw around a bit. Thanks for bringing this to my attention! Jordanacrlee1 ( talk) 15:27, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Was the adjustment to the quote because it looks better that way or was the previous attribution incorrect?
I do think that WP should have changed to front page to that quote in his honor. Or in some way make it part of their official motto. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 00:13, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for the block here [5]. My apologies for the snarky edit summaries while issuing warnings--just blowing off some tired steam, not directed at anyone. Cheers, 2601:188:0:ABE6:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 ( talk) 17:10, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Hey there, Antandrus.
I noticed you reversed the infobox I put on Gioachino Rossini's page in October.
Did I do anything wrong in terms of the infobox?
98.162.137.30 ( talk) 15:29, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
My bad.
So, no one should add an infobox to the Gioachino Rossini page?
If so, I won't do it again.
I didn't see the note to not put an infobox there when I edited it.
It seems as if infoboxes shouldn't even be on Wikipedia in the first place if it damages relationships.
Also, I don't really understand some of the message. No insults intended.
What do you mean, "remove the overly detailed kind?"
Should the minimalist infobox be stopped?
98.162.137.30 ( talk) 17:45, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for all you've done and do here, Antandrus. I'm sure
Signor Luzzasco thanks you too, bless him. Tanti Auguri!
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Five years now! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:57, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
... and six -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:53, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
... and seven -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:25, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Antandrus/Archive39, I want a quest. Maybe you can describe a user groups, except admins, and bureucrats? Thank you.--... Lhealt (talk) 12:22, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Koroshami
You said Zarlino was 5 yo. Point taken. However the reference I quoted is in Zarlino's Dimostrationi harmoniche" How can that be explained? The full paragraph I lifted reads: In fatto ha uete ragione à dire, che la Diatessaron sia consonanza: & hanno il torto tutti quelli prattici, che la pongono nel numero delle Dissonanze: ma sono da escusare in questo: che non sanno quel, che si facciano. Adri. Questi ch’hno questa opinione sono in errore. Et mi recordo, che innzi di noi quei buoni Antichi Giosquino, il suo Maestro Gio. Ocheg: Gascogne, & il mio precettore Gio. Motone, in molti luoghi delle loro compositioni l’hanno posta nella parte graue: senza aggiungerle altro in teruallo. Holuigue ( talk) 21:03, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
I thought I was only correcting a misprint. Admittedly, the tomb stone has disappeared, but it is a document that appears quite credible and coherent. The date of his death is accepted by everybody, and it comes from there. I am puzzled Holuigue ( talk) 21:11, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Did I jump the gun in suggesting he was poached ? I don't think so because his departure caused quite a stir 26.10.1502 Deinde anno quo supra et die veneris XXVI octobris domini... capitulum tenentes dederunt, assignaverunt domino Claudio de Aula presbitero habituato ipsius ecclesie libram presbiteralem vaccantem nunc per recessum absque licencia capituli Johannis Houlievugues dit Mouton magistri cantus.. [1]
Then later, queen Anne went out of her way to smooth things over, and the following text suggests that it took some pressure: 22.4.1509 Deinde die dominica XXII aprilis millesimo quingentesimo nono circa horam primi pulsus vesperorum congregati in capitulo venerabiles domini Hugo Farcilly ... ipsi predicti domini tam nominibus suis quam ceterorum dominorum prepositi et canonicorum absencium ad votum et requisitionem serenissime et christianissime domine nostre domine Anne regine Francie que tunc ibidem in domo thesaurarie contigue dicte ecclesie presens personaliter intererat hospitata; que vive vocis oraculo apud capitulum ipsum intercesserat ut contemplacione ipsius ipsum capitulum vellet creare in dicta ecclesia in canonicum et fratrem veneraabilem virum dominum Johannem Motones dit Houlvigues presbiterum et cantarem cappelle ipsius domine regine cum expectatione prime future vaccature prebende, se ultro hoc faciendo offerendo paratam obsequi et recognituram acceptabile placitum tempore adveniente quo ipsa posset pro bono universalivel particulari dicte ecclesie prout jam per litteras suas missivas et pro eodem Motonis et requisierat et pollicita erat. Qui quidem domini canonici habita matura deliberatione volentes complacere predicte domine ut tenentur et de jure suadentur et etiam habito respectu ad personagium pro quo fiebat requesta et peticio qui vir dignus et laudabilis est ac ecclesie ipsi necessarius ipsum in canonicum et fratrem ipsius ecclesie quathenus de jure potuerint et debuerint creaverunt et nominaverunt ad expectationemprime future vaccature prebende ut potuerunt, salvis prius juribus dicte ecclesie et suis quibus propter hoc in nullo intendunt derrogare; recepto ab eodem domino Petrus Motonis juramento solempni in similibus per canonicos prestari solito juxta forman juramenti contentam in missali novo dicte ecclesie quod quidem juramentum ipse sponte corporaliter genibus flexis cum ambabus manibus sponte prestitit. Acta fuerunt hec infra dictum capitulum dictis die anno et hora presentibus ibidem venerabilibus dominis Petro Motonis organiste predicte domine regine, Gaspardo Pillaudi Pedro Gerbati prebiteris dicte ecclesie, magistro Ludovico Argensonis notario, Petro Salvani mercatore dicte civitatis Gratianopolitane, Johanne Voisin de Blays familiari predicte regine testibus astantibus requisitis et rogatis hoc salvo et retento per dictum capitulum quod a cetero per quamcumque requisitionem seu requestam faciendam non intendunt ulterius creacionem de aliquo faecere in canonicum sed fecerunt et faciunt editum et statutum quod de cetero non possint nec valeant aliquem alium nec creare nec facere. Tandem dato et tradito habitu canonicali eidem domino Motonis dominus Farcilly cantor tanquam antiquior canonicus de madato totius capituli eumdem dominum Motonis cum habitu canonicali eumdem intra chorum ecclesie introducit et eumdem in sede canonicali ultimo et novissimo canonico debita a parte sedis domini prepositi assignavit et eum in eadem sedere et stare cum habitu canonicali fecit sedem ipsam in ipso choro assignando cum expectatione ut supra prime vaccature nullum aliud jus propter hoc assignando nisi quod de jure sibi debetur etc ... In presentia predictorum testium et plurium aliorum. De quibus ipse dominus Motonis acta sibi fieri petiit et dictum capitulum concessit per me subsignatum secretarium capituli. Bernardi [2]
Holuigue ( talk) 23:46, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Apologies. Thanks for the change I must admit that my Italian is nil, like my latin! I did hesitate to translate precettore by teacher or mentor. However, this quote is worth referring to, with proper wrapping, given Mouton's reputation as a teacher, and the indisputed, towering reputation of Zarlino. Holuigue ( talk) 23:55, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
The association of Mouton with the village of Hautwignes is spurious and totally unfounded. I found this in the family archives: 1473 in Nordausques(near St Omer) Philippe de Bersecques is lord of Welles (Nordausques) and Hollinghes. He is captain of the castle of Eperlecques Hollinghes, fief of the parish of Nordausques, figures in a 1452 map Sorry, no reference for the information ! The name Holuigue is frequent in the area and there is no convincing argument to attach it to a specific village. Andrew Kirkman (Birmingham University) has explored the well preserved archives of the Collegiale in St Omer. I noted (excuse my french !)
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Andrew Kirkman, en recherchant les archives de la Collégiale de St-Omer (largement préservées à la Bibliothèque de Saint-Omer, sur une période de 400 ans. Sur la période de 1460 à 1490, il ne manque que deux ans et demi de comptes de la fabrique), a trouvé la mention suivante, datée du 25 Aout 1494:
“Item le xxve d’aoust a maistre Jehan Mouton du cant lequel a escript au livre deschant deux messes pour sa paine”
Les comptes de la fabrique pour l’année suivante mentionnent un travail de copiiste substantiel entrepris par Mouton. Son nom est qualifié de “de Holluighe”, donc son identification est sans ambiguité:
“Item audit maistre Jehan de Holluighe pour une main de pappier Carte Realle pour escripre aucunes messes au grant livre de discant au coeur: iiii s” “Item audit maistre Jehan pour avoir Regle ledit pappier et escript trois messes nouvelles: xvi s” “Item audit maistre Jehan pour avoir escript encoures audit livre trois autres messe: xv s” Sur la page suivante du même compte, Mouton est payé pour la rédaction d’un manuscrit complet: “ Item a maistre Jehan de holluighes pour une main de pappier le avoir Regle/ et compose ung livre de Magnificat sur tous les tons Te Deum et autres chose en discant mis au coeur de ladit eglise duquel par lordonnance de messires G.Decault. R.De monte et R poilly commis a viseter ledit livre par Capitle paye xxviii s”
Il apparait donc que Mouton, durant ces deux années d’activité de copiiste, chantait aussi aux services religieux. Un document des Actes du Chapitre, daté de Septembre 1495, lui accorde le paiement de ce qui parait être une ‘distribution’, tout en spécifiant que ce paiement est une continuation de paiements faits l’année précédente. En outre il apparait que Mouton était employé comme ‘remplaçant’, car le document spécifie qu’il sera payé jusqu’au retour de Michael Le Gay, vicaire, qui bénéficie d’un congé de plusieurs mois: “Eadem die [18.9.95] domini continuando gratiam anno preterito factam petro sommelart thenoriste magistro Johanni mouton et petro [sommelart, crossed out, followed by blank] concesserunt eisdem gratiam eandem videlicet petro xij d. ..Johanni xij.d. .. et petro ix d. usque ad omnium sanctorum et alijs videlicet thenoriste et mouton per totum annum aut dicto mouton usque ad adventum d.[omini] michaelis le gay vicarii” Les archives de la collégiale nous fournissent aussi des renseignements sur d’autres personnages, qu’il nous faut bien considérer comme des parents ‘potentiels’ de notre musicien:
?.1463 ‘franciscus de holluigues’est nommé vicaire
9. 1.1464 ‘franciscus de holluigues’ est nommé chapelain à l’autel de ‘beate marie de ? capella’ 1. 5.1465 ‘franciscus de holluigues’ bénéficie d’une prébende rendue libre par ‘Nicolai de aula’ 4. 4.1475 ‘Jacobo Moton’est nommé chapelain de ‘beate marie’
26.1.1478 ‘jacobo de Holluige’est nommé chapelain de Ste Catherine, dans la paroisse du Saint Sepulcre — Preceding
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I put all my info together, but could not find a way to include a couple of scans. So, I will try something else. My final text is at
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I just happily stumbled upon your essays. The one with the title OWB was particularly useful. It would have been even more helpful to me years ago. But perhaps it is not too late to become a bit wiser. Thanks. Caballero/Historiador ⎌ 16:56, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
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I am new to the editing on Wikipedia. I was just working on Stravinsky, Tchaikovskys, and Repin's articles, and still so confused with this process. All of my sources are reliable and I was translating them myself into English. I was trying to be as precise as possible, which looks as it is incorrect? I almost feel I'm going to give this up as it takes too much of my time anyway to argue with others over obvious things... Thank you Slavuta33 ( talk) 19:53, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Please see my recent comment I have not yet had the patience to check if the IP is the same person as the registered account, but I assume you are correct. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 20:53, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I've got some esoteric questions about free music.
I run a recording studio as part of my job, and have taken to recording my own versions of compositions. Since I only do this as a personal exercise, I don't mind releasing them with the appropriate free licence. The most obvious example is a rock band arrangement of Maurice Ravel's Boléro (using Hammond organ, Rhodes piano, electric guitars, bass and drums), which I believe has recently entered the public domain. I have sent this around to a couple of Wikipedians via email and they liked it.
Where should I upload the music and how should I categorise it. Would it be suitable to link it into Boléro's article? I'm not sure it would, as it's not a well-known arrangement of any significance or discussed in any sources.
A tricker example is a cover of Pink Floyd's " Astronomy Domine", which is part of an exercise of having free covers of well-known songs, in a similar manner to open-source clones of Microsoft Office. While the recording is all my own work, playing all the instruments, the composition is not - does a song that is still generating songwriter royalties prevent any recording from being freely uploaded? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:21, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus! We've got a persistent problem with this editor. He was indef blocked here for adding hoax text and articles, generally consisting of garbled Google translations, "supported" by spurious references. He is now globally locked for doing this across multiple Wikis. Background here, here, and most recently here. The problem is that in addition to creating multiple (now blocked) sock accounts, he attempts editing almost every day as a hopping IP—almost invariably Telecom Italia based in or around Milan, but sometimes uses WIND. Typical example: [6] and note the additional cross-wiki socking on the same day: [7]
Would it be possible to semi-protect two articles which he assaults on an almost a daily basis— Fernando Carcupino and Carlo Biotti? As you can see from the edit histories, the IPs are all the same person and the only IPs to attempt editing these articles. Justlettersandnumbers and I are basically the only editors here keeping a watch on him with occasional help from an admin on Italian Wikipedia, AttoRenato. Reverting his multiple socking edits is getting extremely tedious. I must have at least 30 of his favourite target articles on my watchlist and it's growing. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 08:13, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
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What a pity. Political cluelessness *guarantees* continued beach fouling and raw hydrocarbons -> ozone violations around SB/Goleta into the next century. Not to mention putting 110 workers on the street. Gah. -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 22:01, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I was just browsing Wikipedia, reading, and learning when I stumbled upon your article "Observations on Wikipedia behavior". I made me laugh and cry and then it made me think about all the virtues and vices shown by humanity as a whole. Wikipedia with all its ups and downs is really what we humans as a species really are. There is so much wisdom in this essay that one can't possibly mention them in a few sentences without neglecting one of them or another. Thanks again, since I'm sure you are indifferent to praise. Alireza1357 ( talk) 09:08, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
"Troublesome editors waste far more of the community's time than vandals. One who sometimes makes good edits, but endlessly bickers, threatens, insults, whines, and is eventually banned, will have taken hundreds of hours from other users who would have better spent that time building the encyclopedia. ..." Too true! Cheers, -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 20:53, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi! Thank you for dealing with the revision deletion at The Holocaust. Unless there's something I've missed, I think the revisions from 780298405 to 780357957 should also be hidden – the compromised content added with revision 779320159 is still visible in them. Many thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:33, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Antadrus, thank you for taking the time to point out where I erred. I will appreciate your help in implementing my editions.
My editions to "North Africa" in article on "Holocaust." == I am really sorry, but I don't know how to enter discussion. Thank you for putting an eye to this important article.
My goal is to improve the article, in a peaceful and respectful manner. I completely agree: that I have to use copyrighted publications as a source of information, under fair use, and that I have to copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. … The material may also be rewritten, providing it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore, such paraphrased portions must provide their source. … Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously.
According to the above statements, Wikipedia should allow me to add to the “Holocaust” Wikipedia article, because I am using the same books/authors/sources mentioned by other editors, and thus, my additions meet Wikipedia’s requirements of neutrality.
Wikipedia's editors and administration shouldn't pick and choose what to quote from same authors. I have no doubt in my mind, that Wikipedia administrators and editors don’t want to discriminate.
And my editions, based on Longerich, Bauer, Yahil, and Gilbert, clearly show that Wikipedia should not have a section called "North Africa" which Yad Vashem, a partisan group, does.
Longerich, Bauer, Yahil, and Gilbert, very clearly and unambiguously, narrate 1) the history of the fate of the Jews in Vichy North Africa and Italian Libya, as an integral part of the Holocaust in France (comprised of the Metropole and its overseas territories - see Poznanski, Bauer, Longerich), and Italy respectively (the number of victims there should be added to the number of the victims in “France” and “Italy”), and 2) as an integral part of the Final Solution and the Holocaust of the Jews of Europe/European Jews.
So, administration of wikipedia should allow me to use content by Longerich, Bauer, Yahil, and Gilbert to present the Holocaust of the Jews of France and Italy and the Holocaust in Europe/of European Jews, as inclusive of the persecution of the Jews living in Europe's overseas territories, because
a) The Holocaust of the Jews of Europe/European Jews took place in the political context of imperial Europe, as presented by Bauer, Yahil and Longerich; b) all serious scholars now agree that the Holocaust was not a geographical continental event/genocide, like described by Yad Vashem, sometimes, but a political process and project: it was the state-sponsored - by state laws and policies- persecution of the Jews and other undesirables, and evolved according to geo-political borders, and not continental borders - as very clearly presented in Yahil, Bauer, Longerich, and Gilbert.
Moreover, during the Holocaust period, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Libya didn't exist as independent political entities, but were governed by European nations, in the context of the new imperialism.
Some more comments
1. Henia (Hanna in Polish) and Rachelle (my granma's name) are the same person (I opened a new account with my laptop, because I didn't remember my password - I will now use only one account.
2. My purpose is not to plagiarize, but make sure that if wikipedia editors cite authors or let other editors cite authors such as Bauer, Yahil, Gilbert, Longerich and others, those editors should allow other quotations by same authors from same books by me, and not delete them - of course, I will be more than happy to comply with wikipedia policies and guidelines.
Please, ask the editors to specify, in details, the copyrights violations - I don't have the books of Yahil, Longerich, and Bauer with me, as I just moved to CA. I have put valid references to my editions. I have only quoted one or two short sentences, that was allowed by wikipedia (I did read the Wikipedia chapter on citations". I did read in 'wikipedia citations' that one sentence can be quoted.
3. Why are some editors allowed to support their definition of Holocaust by mentioning only the name of the authors, but not the book, and not the page, like in:
The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστος holókaustos: hólos, "whole" and kaustós, "burnt"),[2] also referred to as the Shoah (Hebrew: השואה, HaShoah, "the catastrophe"), was a genocide in which some six million European Jews were killed by Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, and the World War II collaborators with the Nazis.[3][b] 3: Snyder 2010, pp. 389, 413, chpt. Numbers and Terms b: • • Further examples of this usage can be found in: Bauer 2002, (2002). Rethinking the Holocaust. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press. {{cite pages}} Cesarani 2004, Dawidowicz 1981, Evans 2002, Gilbert 1986, Hilberg 1996, Longerich 2012, Phayer 2000, Zuccotti 1999.
Bauer's definition: “Let us be clear: … Shoah, Churban, Judeocide, whatever we call it, is the name we give to the attempted planned total physical annihilation of the Jewish people, and its partial perpetration with the murder of most of the Jews of Europe.” Rethinking the Holocuast, Bauer states: : “The Holocaust is an extreme example of the context of despair. It was motivated by a murderous ideology.” A racist ideological war, and Nazism or National Socialism was the ideology behind the Holocaust. Therefore, the racist national domestic, and international goals of the main perpetrator, Nazi Germany led by Hitler, and the characteristics of Nazism determined the definition of the Holocaust and its victims.”
Again, 1) I am asking that the editor who mentioned "Bauer 2002, (2002). Rethinking the Holocaust. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press. Cesarani 2004, Dawidowicz 1981, Evans 2002, Gilbert 1986, Hilberg 1996, Longerich 2012, Phayer 2000, Zuccotti 1999" cite the name of the books and the page; and 2) that Wikipedia allows me to present a content based on Yahil, Gilbert, Bauer and Longerich, to show that the persecution of the Jews in Vichy North Africa and Italian Libya is an integral part of the Holocaust in France and Italy respectively, and an integral part of the Holocaust of the Jews of Europe/European Jews, as clearly supported by Yahil, Bauer, Longerich and Gilbert.
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So I'm reading a biography of Cornelius Cardew and got to wondering if Stockhausen Serves Imperialism merits its own Wikipedia article. It's mentioned at Refrain (Stockhausen) and Cornelius Cardew but seems to have been widely enough noted that it may deserve to be spun off and expanded. Are you familiar with it? Thoughts? Shock Brigade Harvester Boris ( talk) 04:20, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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Mr. A: I am new and want to tear my hair out. Putting together a page for a person is the most difficult anger provoking assignment I have ever had. The person has material not on-line from the mid-Eighties. It is not on the internet (articles from magazines and such). I attempted to post a view of the articles as photos and they were removed by a girl in Russia. This is in the sandbox version which I thought was a type of playground. This spooked me out of my seat! I watched these items disappear before my eyes. Everything about Wikipedia so far has been non-user friendly. I don't know if this is intentional. Replies to other users seem to be snarky and smug. While originally excited by this assignment I now have a bad taste in my mouth. The magazines are out of business. Tried the journal citation and there are quite a few boxes as you are probably aware. When/if the sandbox version is done can I upload it to Wikipedia where I assume tech vultures will pick it apart until it is bones. LOL/ Please advise Lost In Space — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amityville73 ( talk • contribs) 08:26, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Are you responsible for the translation of the eight composition rules on the Johannes Tinctoris page?
It seems to me there's a mistranslation. It reads "Rule #6 It is forbidden to repeat the same melodic turn above a cantus firmus of equally long notes, unless cantus firmus has a repetition in itself."
I'm not able to entirely decipher the original Latin, nor am I able to find alternative interpretations of the Latin online -- just copy pastings of the Wikipedia piece.
The only other translation I've found is within the English version of Knud Jeppesen's book "Counterpoint: Polyphonic Vocal Style of the Sixteenth Century ". On page 12 he writes "Sixth rule: Redicta, that is, repetition of of the same melodic idiom, is not permitted over a cantus firmus in notes of equal value, and least of all if the cantus firmus itself contains such a repetition. This applies likewise to written compositions, although one uses such idioms occassionally in order to imitate the sound of bells or of horns."
Jeppesen seems to interpret Tinctorus to mean that you especially ought not to repeat an idiom if the cantus firmus also contains a repetition. The Wikipedia article claims the opposite. It also omits the rest of the writings about imitating bells, which is present in the original Latin.
Which is correct?
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.97.66 ( talk) 21:25, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
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Antandrus - thank you for your vigilance in lots of areas. Recently, you reverted, wholesale, several additions to the Italian Renaissance page. While I agree with you that there are problems in the additions, I have two questions about how your chose to respond to those. (1) Given the incorporation of academic sourcing for these additions, might a more judiciious/surgical edit have been appropriate? and (2) By treating the addition as a single entity, rather than as disparate sections, it seems to be "throwing the baby out with the bath water". Is there a way to engage with editoris - particularly new editors, in the case of these additions - in a way that opens dialgue and increases learning & awareness. I would contend that your wholesale revert shortchanged these editors and shortchanged the article. DOstendorff ( talk) 19:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC) NOTE: By shortchange, I mean to indicate that there were perhaps opportunities for these new editors to be guided along and information that might have been helpful incorporated into the present article. DOstendorff ( talk) 19:58, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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Hello! Could you please delete Atlantic.net so I can move Atlantic.Net to this title? There is no reason to capitalize the ".Net". L293D ( ✉) 20:16, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Could you please protect the article about Devin Nunes? if you look at the article's history, it's full of vandalism and reverts. Thanks, L293D ( ✉ ) 14:00, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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Could you please block 47.38.214.2? He has done 13 edits, all of which were vandalisms. L293D ( ✉ ) 03:15, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
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The opening line is prolix and horrid. If you won't let me edit it, come up with something better. Also, 'Passion Oratorio' is used in several other articles, not to mention the Encyclopedia Brittanica. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.50.77.46 ( talk) 22:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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The edit summary is supposed to explain why you performed an edit. Your summary of the revert of my edit, "nah", is not a summary, but an extremely simple rebuttal. Please explain to me here why you believe that the claim you made does not require a citation. You are essentially attacking a portion of the population and refusing to provide evidence for your attack. Yes, it's just an essay. But I will not stand idly by when I see a baseless attack on Wikipedia, no matter where it is. Again, please explain why you do not believe the claim requires a citation.
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<outdent>@DesertPipeline: please stop badgering Antrandus. From some thousands of vandalism reverts, interactions with their authors, and as a former adolescent boy, I can assure you that nearly all of our puerile vandals are adolescent boys. Antrandus's observations aren't an encyclopedia article requiring citations, and twelve years of experience on my part supports his observations, up to and including interactions with law enforcement agencies on several occasions. Acroterion (talk) 00:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
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I came across two excellent maps that provide much greater detail regarding LA City Oil Field. I have no clue as to how to add these to the Wiki page and was hoping that you could help. My interest in this is twofold - I grew up at 376 S. Westmoreland, 90020 & I'm interested in possible soil contamination & exposure. I'd be happy to forward you the photos Thanks, Chris cbyrne2018@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plumbstar ( talk • contribs) 02:26, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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