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Didn't coin sadism and masochism

Kraft von Ebing was believed in his time and a while after that to have invented the phrases Sadism and Masochism, but it is now known those terms were already in wide circulation amongst practitioners of BDSM, and that Ebing was just reporting on their terms.

  • Cutler, Bert (2003), Partner selection, power dynamics, and sexual bargaining in self-defined BDSM couples, San Francisco: The Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality, p. 100, When it comes to sexual matters, the academic community behind the medical and psychiatric professions has been remarkably naive. The denial started with crediting Krafft-Ebbing for having coined the terms "sadism" and "masochism," when in fact Krafft-Ebbing acknowledged that the terms came from underground ads used by practitioners of his day to contact each other.

With this in mind I believe the lead should just read that he brought it into the mainstream consciousness, and not that he himself coined it. I'm going to go ahead and change it to that; I just thought I should explain here first. -- AerobicFox ( talk) 07:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Archived outdated discussions

I have archived most discussions, whose starting posts were all more than ten years old, creating Archive 1. I have left the complaint above because it cites a source which has still not been added to the article. Thiagovscoelho ( talk) 12:13, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Didn't coin sadism and masochism

Kraft von Ebing was believed in his time and a while after that to have invented the phrases Sadism and Masochism, but it is now known those terms were already in wide circulation amongst practitioners of BDSM, and that Ebing was just reporting on their terms.

  • Cutler, Bert (2003), Partner selection, power dynamics, and sexual bargaining in self-defined BDSM couples, San Francisco: The Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality, p. 100, When it comes to sexual matters, the academic community behind the medical and psychiatric professions has been remarkably naive. The denial started with crediting Krafft-Ebbing for having coined the terms "sadism" and "masochism," when in fact Krafft-Ebbing acknowledged that the terms came from underground ads used by practitioners of his day to contact each other.

With this in mind I believe the lead should just read that he brought it into the mainstream consciousness, and not that he himself coined it. I'm going to go ahead and change it to that; I just thought I should explain here first. -- AerobicFox ( talk) 07:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Archived outdated discussions

I have archived most discussions, whose starting posts were all more than ten years old, creating Archive 1. I have left the complaint above because it cites a source which has still not been added to the article. Thiagovscoelho ( talk) 12:13, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply


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