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Is it considered ok for anyone to remove the prod, including the article subject or their public relations rep? I PRODDed the article Badman_Recording_Co. but it got dePRODded by the founder/business owner Graywalls ( talk) 23:18, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
the COI editor is violating the principles of WP:COIwhen they DEPROD. I would hold that it is a similar action to closing an RM or AFD. It is not merely partaking in discussion or editing an article for typos, but it effects an outcome on a strictly biased contention about the page (ie that page’s existence). — HTGS ( talk) 02:42, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
My main field is not English Wikipedia but Japanese Wikipedia where the policy of proposed deletion is different. In the English Wikipedia, if anyone removes a proposed deletion tag from a page or otherwise indicates an objection, the proposed deletion is canceled. In contrast, the Japanese Wikipedia does not have this rule.
In the Japanese Wikipedia, a few discusses or debates the issue of the proposed deletion, for example, a period of one week, and then decide keep or delete. During a period of the discussion, an objection to the deletion can be expressed.
In middle August, 2023, more than 90% of the proposed deletion leads to the deletion, and this statistics shows that it is rare that the objection prevails. One of the reason involves Japanese culture where debate is not popular at all.
I want to change the polity of the Japanese Wikipedia in the same way as the English Wikipedia. Specifically, the following rule shoule be adopted in the Japanese Wikipedia also: "if anyone removes a proposed deletion tag from a page or otherwise indicates an objection, the proposed deletion is canceled."
However, I do not know a process to change the rule in the Japanese Wikipedia, and I welcome the advice.
PatentAttorneyJp ( talk) 02:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
I have been interpreting for a bit
WP:PRODNOM Rule 3's statement of and it is neither currently being, nor has ever been, discussed at AfD/FfD.
to mean that pages that were at AfD at any point, even if their AfD was closed as delete and the page recreated, that PROD cannot be used. This is to some extent borne out by placing those articles in
Category:Proposed deletions needing attention under the D sort key indicating that D: Articles which have undergone an articles for deletion Discussion. PROD is one-shot only: It must not be used for pages PRODed before or previously discussed at AfD or FfD
. So I guess am I correct in interpreting that PROD cannot be used even for pages that were deleted at AfD, or am I misintepreting this rule?
Tartar
Torte 17:00, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Request for comment: Unreferenced PROD, which could make a bit more than 100K articles eligible for a new WP:STICKYPROD-like process. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 22:18, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to check for old PRODs before proposing a page? If so, it might be nice to list that at the Before section. — HTGS ( talk) 00:19, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
{{
oldprod}}
tag on the talk page, the only way to see if it was previously PROD'd is to review the article history.
~ GB fan 12:17, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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Proposed deletion page. |
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The redirect Wikipedia:CONTEST has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 29 § Wikipedia:CONTEST until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 15:17, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
Is it considered ok for anyone to remove the prod, including the article subject or their public relations rep? I PRODDed the article Badman_Recording_Co. but it got dePRODded by the founder/business owner Graywalls ( talk) 23:18, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
the COI editor is violating the principles of WP:COIwhen they DEPROD. I would hold that it is a similar action to closing an RM or AFD. It is not merely partaking in discussion or editing an article for typos, but it effects an outcome on a strictly biased contention about the page (ie that page’s existence). — HTGS ( talk) 02:42, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
My main field is not English Wikipedia but Japanese Wikipedia where the policy of proposed deletion is different. In the English Wikipedia, if anyone removes a proposed deletion tag from a page or otherwise indicates an objection, the proposed deletion is canceled. In contrast, the Japanese Wikipedia does not have this rule.
In the Japanese Wikipedia, a few discusses or debates the issue of the proposed deletion, for example, a period of one week, and then decide keep or delete. During a period of the discussion, an objection to the deletion can be expressed.
In middle August, 2023, more than 90% of the proposed deletion leads to the deletion, and this statistics shows that it is rare that the objection prevails. One of the reason involves Japanese culture where debate is not popular at all.
I want to change the polity of the Japanese Wikipedia in the same way as the English Wikipedia. Specifically, the following rule shoule be adopted in the Japanese Wikipedia also: "if anyone removes a proposed deletion tag from a page or otherwise indicates an objection, the proposed deletion is canceled."
However, I do not know a process to change the rule in the Japanese Wikipedia, and I welcome the advice.
PatentAttorneyJp ( talk) 02:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
I have been interpreting for a bit
WP:PRODNOM Rule 3's statement of and it is neither currently being, nor has ever been, discussed at AfD/FfD.
to mean that pages that were at AfD at any point, even if their AfD was closed as delete and the page recreated, that PROD cannot be used. This is to some extent borne out by placing those articles in
Category:Proposed deletions needing attention under the D sort key indicating that D: Articles which have undergone an articles for deletion Discussion. PROD is one-shot only: It must not be used for pages PRODed before or previously discussed at AfD or FfD
. So I guess am I correct in interpreting that PROD cannot be used even for pages that were deleted at AfD, or am I misintepreting this rule?
Tartar
Torte 17:00, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Request for comment: Unreferenced PROD, which could make a bit more than 100K articles eligible for a new WP:STICKYPROD-like process. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 22:18, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to check for old PRODs before proposing a page? If so, it might be nice to list that at the Before section. — HTGS ( talk) 00:19, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
{{
oldprod}}
tag on the talk page, the only way to see if it was previously PROD'd is to review the article history.
~ GB fan 12:17, 5 February 2024 (UTC)