WIKIPEDIA:REQUESTS FOR ADMINSHIP LOURDES 2

The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a successful request for adminship. Please do not modify it.

Lourdes

Final: (207/3/1) - Closed as successful by Acalamari at 02:50, 26 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Nomination

Lourdes ( talk · contribs) – I have had my eye on Lourdes becoming an administrator for some time. She has an impressive number of mainspace contributions, including Van Diemen's Land v Port Phillip, 1851, William Walker (Australian cricketer) and Cottalango Leon. She has a good track record in AfD and CSD; even when consensus doesn't go her way such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zaid Ali (2nd nomination), she is civil and respectful to the other participants in the debate (not to mention putting forward the strongest argument, IMHO). She regularly participates in noticeboard discussions, helping to calm down tempers and diffuse difficult situations. In particular, I see her a lot on the Help desk, fielding questions from new and experienced users alike.

As you can see, this is Lourdes' second RfA. Since the first one, around a year ago, she has reached out to those who have opposed, gathered constructive feedback, and greatly improved her temperament and communication skills as a result. I was particularly impressed by her comments at Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Joe Roe, where her thoughts on conduct of administrators drew high praise from a number of established editors. If she's getting that sort of feedback, there's no real reason she shouldn't have the admin toolset. I hope you agree. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:31, 29 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Co-nomination by SoWhy

When Lourdes ran for adminship the first time, almost exactly a year ago, I was torn. Here was an editor who within a short time had made so many good edits that had she run a decade earlier (when people like me became admins), she would have passed with flying colors. On the other hand, some of the opposers raised good points, mainly about her interactions with other editors and approach to policy. Before I could make up my mind, the RFA was already closed.

In the year since them Lourdes has improved her communication skills and approach to collaboration significantly and a check of her contributions in the meantime did not raise any red flags. As Ritchie already pointed out, she demonstrates a wealth of knowledge of policy as well as skills as a writer that far surpass my own, including an FA that appeared as TFA on the Main Page. In her answers to the standard questions below, you can find more examples of both her skills as an editor and the kind of approach and insight we should expect from all of our admins. So, without further ado, I hope you can agree with Ritchie and me that Lourdes has matured into the kind of editor who would make a great admin and can lend your support to this candidacy. Regards SO WHY 17:52, 18 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:

I thank my nominators for their gracious nominations and humbly accept the same. I hope I'm able to learn as much as they have in the years to come. I also sincerely thank the community in advance for taking the time to review this RfA. (I have two alternative accounts: LourdesBot^(
approval) and ❤️^{(
usage policy)} Briefly, I was also User:Wìkìpe-tan at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Wikipe-tan. I have never been a paid editor.) Thanks, Lourdes 02:49, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply

My (!)vote of thanks: Dear friends and fellow editors, because I may be traveling when this RfA might be closed and might not be able to respond individually to any messages left on my talk page or other forums, I thought of leaving this sincere vote of thanks to all those who commented in this RfA, whether queriers, supporters, opposers, general commenters, or talk page respondents. I realize that to question or assess a candidate and to comment in any manner, you’ve invested a significant part of your valuable time – I am sincerely thankful to all of you for that and feel honestly humbled that you’ve taken time out of your lives to provide me your views and feedback. I never expected this, but this RfA has left me a significantly more knowledgeable person due to the research I had had to undertake to answer a few queries, like #4 by Smallbones, #11 by Ivanvector, specially #14 by Coffee. When I am One of Many !voted support, it felt surreal – I guess the first !vote always does that. And when the others came in, it felt more surreal, as I never expected this swell of support. While I’ve clicked the thanks button for many supporters and commenters, for those whose names I may have missed out, please consider this my heartfelt thanks. TonyBallioni, Dial911, TNT, Amory, you have no idea how comforting your notes of support on my talk page and your !votes were.

A special mention to Kudpung, Ad Orientem, 78.26, Dlohcierekim, Kurtis, Chetsford, Beeblebrox, Davey2010, Rpclod, Noyster, Nick, Linguist111, Jetstreamer, Tony the Marine, Nick Moyes, Cullen328, Pagliaccious, TParis, K.e.coffman, J947 (I remember… thank you once again), SMcCandlish, Bellezzasolo, HandsomeBoy – and to all the others whose names I’ve missed – for their very thoughtful comments. Your words will remain for long in my heart. To my dearest friends and guides NinjaRobotPirate, Gerda Arendt and Serial Number 54129, you made my day. To dearest Oshwah, I will still hate you forever ❤️.

How can I forget Tryptofish, who !voted in support despite my once saying that the anagram of his name was Shitpotfry, and Xaosflux, who ensured that I already had had an experience of handling the fame that comes with an RfA.

To conclude, the biggest of thanks I have reserved for my two most outstanding nominators Ritchie333, SoWhy, and for WereSpielChequers – these are my mentors who have have been as patient with me as I could have imagined, providing me advice before the RfA and supporting me to the best extent possible. There are no words to thank you all and I hope other editors across Wikipedia also have the invaluable benefit of being guided, mentored and nominated by you. It would be years before I end up contributing anything close to where you are now. Thank you, all the three of you, and my love always for you. This is Lourdes, signing off for now. Cheers and best wishes!

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?

A: During my tenure here, I have gained a fair amount of experience in the AfD, CSD, Usernames for administrator attention, Administrator intervention against vandalism and Requests for page protection areas. If this request is accepted by the community, I expect to take part significantly in these areas. Having said that, I do expect myself to not jump headlong into all of these together. I would rather start with limited admin actions and focus on learning. To prioritize, I'll start at the AfD and CSD desks where I would see and learn from the regulars, and subsequently move on to the other mentioned areas once I'm comfortable.

2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?

A: I have contributed to Wikipedia in various areas and some of these are very close to my heart as a result of the knowledge and experience I have gained while collaborating with other editors.

In the mainspace area, amongst 34 articles (listed at User:Lourdes), my best contribution is Van Diemen's Land v Port Phillip, 1851, a featured article that appeared on Wikipedia's main page on 11 February 2018 – purely due to the wonderful collaboration I have had with one of the FAC coordinators. I also have two featured lists (of which one appeared on the main page on 1 May 2017), three good articles and seven DYKs; I'm fortunate to have had the opportunity to work upon these with other editors. In this list, I also include a few articles that I saved from the deletion desk by re-writing them (e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, amongst others).

I have written seven user scripts (listed at User:Lourdes), including the Page Curation script, which is now used by quite a few editors. I count that too amongst my best contributions.

Apart from these, I have been a significant contributor at the Help desk throughout my time here at Wikipedia, answering queries and helping editors to the best of my knowledge. For example, when a user requested a solution to find out possible backlinks to articles, I created User:Lourdes/Backlinks as a solution. When another user complained that Wikipedia:Credible claim of significance made no sense, I wrote up this response and spruced up the original page too. With committed intent, I cherish my Help desk contributions because of the invaluable opportunities I've gained to interact with and assist both newbie and established editors and resolving their editing issues.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Yes, I have been in conflicts in the past. Over the time I've spent here, I've learnt better to deal with such situations and the editors involved. Instead of responding with the same tone to editors who may have, for example, either called me names or have become hot- tempered, I've extended an olive branch, offering them my guidance if they required it. In article talk pages (for example, at Swati Chaturvedi or at Kavijanasrayam), I've handled potentially disruptive discussions with policy/guideline-based arguments. When established editors have disagreed with my edits (for example at Telaga), I've taken the effort to understand their points of view and worked towards collaborative and consensus-based edits.

Perhaps the most significant example of how I have handled criticism can be seen at my earlier RfA. While my withdrawal statement at the said RfA consolidates my proactive orientation towards the critical feedback, even post that, I have worked hard towards attempting to improve upon the areas that editors had pointed out. From ensuring that the tone of my interactions softens considerably towards RfA nominees, to ensuring intelligent and worthwhile Afd contributions, to handling vandalistic edits with a combination of policy and common sense, I have also individually reached out to the key opposing editors to get their renewed feedback.

No editor has till date personally attacked me – so I don't know how that feels. But going forward, I believe that the ability to listen to logical criticism – whether during conflict or away from it – and act on it is key to self-improvement, and I would hope that I continue doing that.

You may ask optional questions below. There is a limit of two questions per editor. Multi-part questions disguised as one question, with the intention of evading the limit, are disallowed. Follow-up questions relevant to questions you have already asked are allowed.

Additional question from Smallbones

4. First thanks for answering whether you've ever edited for pay without even being asked! You are the first admin candidate since the addition to WP:Admin of "Candidates are also required to disclose whether they have ever edited for pay." You've met the requirement, but could you give a more general comment about your attitude toward paid editing and how you'll deal with paid editing as an admin? Thanks again, Smallbones_(
smalltalk) 03:57, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply

A: Hello Smallbones. Thanks for your question. I am against undisclosed paid-editing, or disclosed paid editing that does not adhere to our editing policies and guidelines. Such editing has the egregious potential of shifting the focus of articles from being encyclopedic to being promotional or to having conflicted content; as a recent Arbcom case witnessed, such editing may also promote points of view within various forums that serve the purpose of only the paid-editors or of those whom they work for, and I'm against all of this.

I do understand that there are a few areas (e.g. GLAM) where contributions are made in good faith. However, I believe that even editors who may be teaching or working at GLAM organizations should necessarily disclose their associations in case they are paid for their contributions. Without such disclosures, the community would not be able to review the contributions in the right perspective.

Having said that, in all of this, I also understand the need to exercise restraint and caution as no investigative process should end up demotivating the majority of our editors, who are unpaid volunteers; and in my broad understanding, it’s critically important that we do not push such good-faith editors for unnecessary disclosures in our eagerness to get paid-editing disclosed.

My response to paid-editing as an administrator would run mostly similar to how I’ve handled it whenever I’ve come across such editors in the past. I would advise paid editors to adhere to the requirements of our paid editing policy and our conflict of interest guideline; and in cases where the editor falls short and disrupts the project, to report such cases at relevant desks to get more eyes on the issue and to take restrictive action as may be feasible, depending on each case.

Additional question from Everymorning

5. How have you improved as an editor since your last RFA beyond having become more experienced? Some of the opposes at your first RFA were just because they didn't think you had enough experience, but I'm asking about other concerns expressed by oppose voters there, like Sergecross73. He wrote the following about you in his oppose !vote: "...I've kind of been rubbed the wrong way with some of their interactions. A few editors in the past, myself included, have expressed concerns with their badgering of people at WP:RFA." Similarly, Softlavender accused you of "adopting a superior and patronizing tone with admins and more experienced editors". I want to know how you have improved to address these concerns. (Sorry this question is so long.)

A: Hello Everymorning. I understand the perspective of your query. Both Serge and Softlavender brought out quite relevant issues in my previous Rfa. Serge and Softlavender’s opposes, apart from similar ones of other editors, provided me insights into where I had gone wrong in my past interactions. Communication, respect, civility and ability to understand criticism and improve thereon are critical to a productive and collaborative environment. For administrators, to be a benchmark in these is non-negotiable, and in the months leading to my previous RfA, I clearly wasn’t.

While my responses to query #3 would provide you insights into how I’ve hopefully improved in handling criticism and in my interactions with other editors, whether tendentious or established, let me also share a part of a communication that I had recently with one of the opposers of my last Rfa; my communication to them consolidates much of my thought on what happened then and how I view it now.

Hello, Hope all is well. As you had suggested, I've taken a deep and long look at Ferret's Rfa and my interactions there. Maybe it's because of the experience I've had in the past year, or perhaps it's because of my taking a re-look from a perspective of a neutral observer (I mean, I've tried to look at the Rfa as would a person not involved with the Rfa), I have to say that I'm a bit embarrassed about how I've proceeded in that particular Rfa. Putting myself in Ferret's shoes, (and I think I realize this more after my own failed Rfa), I would feel quite disappointed that an editor can ask pushy questions like I did, and not wait for comprehensive replies before jumping onto the oppose segment, and then push more for replies to multiple questions. Time teaches us various things I guess – and one thing I've learnt is that it takes little effort to criticize fellow editors, and quite some maturity to understand the effort that fellow editors – like Ferret – are taking to improve the project and make it a better place for readers. With respect to how I'd handle it now, I think my Rfa interactions with nominees over the past year can provide significant evidence of how I've changed from a person "trying to find out what's wrong with the nominee" to an editor who tries to find out what all proactive efforts the editor has taken to support the project. Since the Ferret incident, and since my Rfa, from a critic out to prove (some silly) point, I believe I've changed to defending nominations of positively oriented candidates. An example could be Joe Roe's Rfa, where there was opposition to his Afd participation. I defended Joe's actions, explaining why it's human to err, and nothing more than that should be made of it ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Joe_Roe#Responses_to_MPS1992's_oppose). I can imagine – or rather, perhaps I don't want to recall – how I would have responded if Joe's Rfa had been two years ago. Similar is how I've participated in other Rfas in the past year, questioning questionable oppose !votes and going the extra mile in supporting credible candidates. If Ferret's Rfa were happening now, I would be one of the first supporters. Like I said, I think the more interactions one has over the years, the more stable one's responses become within the cultural context of Wikipedia. I hope what I've written makes some sense :) If there's anything else you would wish me to take a re-look at, please do share. Have a good time in your travels. Warmly, Lourdes…

Everymorning, I hope this provides the context you were looking for in your query. If not, please feel free to ask further.

Additional question from SMcCandlish

6. Are you regularly doing any "admin-ish" activity? Non-admin closures; clerking for any processes that use clerks; responsible use of advanced bits like template-editor, page-mover; etc. What stands out as work you're proud of, and how have you resolved any criticisms?

A: Hi SMcCandish, my exposure to some of the admin-related areas is listed in my response to question 1. Some of my NACs may be found through this link, which I got from the toolbox below. My pending changes review log can be viewed here. A list of the work that I’m proud of can be seen in my response to question 2. Examples of my handling conflict and criticism can be seen in my response to question 3. Do please ask if you require more clarification. Thanks.

To clarify, I'm fishing for examples of admin-like activity that you think is particularly exemplary, and/or which shows your dispute-resolution handling. —  SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:56, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply

You're probably going to get me booted out of this Rfa for this, but here goes:

Special:Permalink/804619573#Reporting hounding, and the discussion continued at User_talk:Lourdes#Help Desk
Special:Permalink/800715690#Personal attack
An NAC of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caribbean Journal of International Relations & Diplomacy, where the discussion continued at Special:Permalink/790376480#Wikipedia:Articles for_deletion/Caribbean Journal of International Relations & Diplomacy

Apart from these, I consider Afd discussions also akin to a form of debate/dispute resolution. To that extent, there are some Afds that I recall where the nominators including established editors and administrators, withdrew their nominations after I had placed convincing arguments. These are as follows:

If you want more examples, I can do a deeper search in my contributions. Thanks once more.

Additional question from Amorymeltzer

7. What are your thoughts on Administrator Recall? Is it necessary given our other procedures? Do you intend to take part?

A: To be honest, I have not given any thoughts on administrator recall. I have witnessed some cases of administrative overreach. In most of these cases, to my understanding, the community seemed successful in engaging with the administrator involved and effecting a course correction. In extreme cases, the arbitration committee has taken the bit away, or the administrator has resigned the bit before the final decision. So I’m ambivalent on the need to have an admin recall procedure. However, if the community in the future makes the same mandatory, I’m okay with it.

Additional question from Linguist111

8. Suppose, right now, an IP adds an unreferenced list of supposed new Asia's Next Top Model contestants to this table, in the box where it says "TBA" in the section "Other contestants in order of elimination" (this has actually happened multiple times before, here for example). I, knowing that the sixth season (or "cycle" as it is called) of Asia' Next Top Model has not started airing yet and the list of contestants has not been printed in any reliable sources and cannot be verified in any way, revert this, saying it is unreferenced or original research (as I have done a number of times in the past, e.g. here, here, and here in the "Contestants per country" section) and welcome the IP with {{ welcome-anon-unsourced}} on their talk page. Without any discussion, the IP puts the list back in and I revert, leaving {{ uw-unsourced2}} or {{ uw-nor2}} on their talk page. This happens again and I give them a level 3 warning, after which they revert a third time. Now, if I revert again, it will be my fourth revert, but if not, the unverifiable material remains in the article. What action do you think would be appropriate for me to take now, and why?

A: If you're sure that there are no reliable sources supporting the addition of names by the IP, then such material would go against our BLP policy. In that light, give a level 4 warning to the IP, revert the addition, report the issue at WP:BLPN or WP:ANI mentioning that you crossed 3RR in the light of BLP violations, and request more eyes from experienced editors and administrators who frequent the BLP/AN noticeboard to review the situation. Thanks.

Additional question from GeneralizationsAreBad

9. How would you respond to this AIV report?

A: The OP Mvcg66b3r had a couple of hours earlier added a report about the same user Chrome2005. It was perhaps mistakenly removed by another editor (I dream of horses) as a stale report, leading to the OP re-adding the report you link above. A quick look at the history of the articles shows immediate, matching multiple ducks in the form of Chrome 313 and Chrome 313 2. A rudimentary seat-of-the-pants review of the editing behavior of these accounts shows a matching standard pillar-box HD/SD vandal, whose edits match multiple editors like WALL-EPixarSpongebobfansic2008, WALL-EPixarSpongebob, Spongebobfan1997 and multiple IPs, with the probable master being Tazlinc1. This is a long-term abuser and should be blocked on sight, with additional assistance sought from checkusers for blocking any hidden sock.

Additional question from Andrew D.

10. A lot of your edits have the edit summary "clean up and fixes". For example, see Indian students abroad. Please explain what is being done. Andrew D. ( talk) 23:43, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply

A: Hello Andrew. These are simple gnomish formatting edits I undertake from time to time on articles that I get using the random article link. Thanks.

Additional question from Ivanvector

The following two questions are based on this scenario: Three users are engaged in an edit war on an article subject to Arbcom discretionary sanctions. All three editors want to change the stable content but have different points of view. You have full-protected the article for 3 days, and a discussion between the editors has been progressing productively. It is the second day of protection.

11a. While the three editors are politely discussing the matter, you notice that a map image in the article has changed. Clicking through the map to Commons, you discover that the three are now revert-warring over different versions of the map, causing it to change rapidly and not match the protected caption in the enwiki article, and you also discover that the three are now edit-warring in other articles linked from the protected article. What can you do?

A. Ivan, to the best of my memory, I've never had experience with any articles under discretionary sanctions. So I'm afraid that due to my lack of experience in this area, my response may come out to be sub-optimal or plain wrong – but I'll try surely (my apologies in advance if the answer is plain wrong). The ultimate objective of any resolution process is to reduce disruption to the project, while encouraging collaborative editing. Knowing that the editors have been politely discussing, there may have been potential for them to be advised informally. But given that the three have extended their edit-warring to the commons image and to other articles (I understand that these articles too possibly belong to the same discretionary sanctions area), assuming that the three editors have not been aware of or procedurally notified of this in the preceding 12 months, I'll proceed to formally make them aware of the existing discretionary sanctions; and at the same time advising them to stop edit-warring on articles broadly and reasonably construed to be coming under the said discretionary sanctions; as well as to stop warring on the commons image, which defeats the purpose of the page protection and is almost equivalent to gaming the system. I expect that given their polite demeanor, things should proceed to normal. If they don't, and the warring continues, in my inexperienced opinion, specific 1RR restrictions may be placed on the specific warring editors, explaining clearly through formal sanctioning templates about why the same have been placed and informing them of the scalable consequences of not adhering to the restrictions, while noting the same in the arbcom log. If things still remain downhill with the warring, progressively increasing blocks can be placed on the specific warring editors to ensure the project is not disrupted. I don't know if I got this whole procedure right, but hope it makes sense.

11b. Two of the editors have come to an agreement, while the third opposes but has been blocked for a week by another admin due to an unrelated incident. Should you lift the protection?

A. In the spirit of productive collaboration, perhaps yes; but ensuring that I've followed the above mentioned procedure of informing the editors of the existence of discretionary sanctions and advising them to exercise judicious restraint. I know there's no need to hurry on Wikipedia, but in my opinion, there's no need to restrict the good-faith consensus-based editing of any editor just to wait for another editor to get unblocked. I was wondering if my answer would change if two out of the three editors had been blocked for a week and only one was there to edit. I would have still lifted the protection, following the points mentioned previously.

Additional question from Tigraan

12. (For the purpose of this question, assume you do not speak Somali, and do not know any active editor who does. Sorry for the convoluted example, but I see no simpler way to check what I want to check.) You come across a 7-days-old AfD for John Doe. The article consists of the text John Doe is buznessman famous in Somalia who will be the next president; it includes links to two youtube videos in Somali with about 1M views each. Nomination is "Per WP:GNG", two participants !voted delete "per nom, nothing found on the net". What do you do?

A: Hi Tigraan. Assuming that everything else is in order (that is, the videos are not attack videos or copy-vios or general vandalism; the nominators, the !voters are all good-faith editors...), while WP:SOFTDELETE is an option if the article hasn’t been declined for a prod, I would rather prefer leaving a note at Wikipedia:WikiProject Somalia about the AfD and moving on. I’m not comfortable taking administrative action in an area where I may have to assess Arabic or Somali sources through my own research. Same with editorial involvement (although I can't say I haven't involved myself into foreign language Afds previously).

Additional question from Jetstreamer

13. Can you please tell us how would you have proceeded in the entire process that led to this [1] closure?

A: Jetstreamer, I’ve read through the complete timeline that finally led to the DR and the overturn. Let me give you a quick synopsis of an experience I had had a couple of years ago. Although this may not be anywhere in the same category as the one you’ve mentioned, to an extent, my first exposure to the issue of whether a list is notable or not at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Ayrton Senna taught me a few important points, one of them being that an established and experienced editor can view the same list, which you might consider notable, to be not notable, using compelling arguments which are as logical as yours. While I argued that the list was worth one that could be upgraded to Featured status, the nominator provided convincing arguments that this was just equivalent to fancruft. The List got saved in that AfD, and later the original author Harrias nominated it for FL, which it eventually passed when I re-nomm’d it. What I’m trying to reach here is that having read all the discussions at the VPP, AN, AfD and DR, I feel that both sides have had weighty arguments and interpretations that strike home. Those are experienced editors and administrators who have opposed your points of view with very logical interpretations of how Rfc decisions at VPP should be read and implemented, while there are equally strongly worded arguments given in your favor by as experienced editors. When interpretations from both sides are strong enough, sometimes it becomes purely a number game – about how many editors support which side. To be clear, as an editor, I would be in your camp (if that’s the right way to put it). That is, I don’t feel that a bunch of lists can be clubbed together as deletable through an Rfc that pushes the deletion as policy supported by the community. Yes, we many times have multiple articles listed at the same AfD, but each one is assessed on its own merit in the respective discussion. My personal opinion is similar, that each list can have its own unique characteristics and notability worth, that cannot and should not be assessed en masse, and that too at a forum that is away from AfD. If I had had to close the original AfD without being initially involved, then I believe that given my reading of the consensus evident in the deletion discussion, I would have closed it as keep than as delayed delete, additionally providing the relevant descriptive in the closure statement. I hope this gives you an understanding of how I would have proceeded in the entire process.

Additional question from Coffee

14. What is your understanding of the Arbitration Committee's Discretionary Sanctions system, specifically what do you think its purpose is and when should it be utilized?

A: My first view is that it should probably have been called the discretionary restrictions and sanctions system than just discretionary sanctions. My understanding is that the purpose of this procedure is to allow administrators leeway in placing sanctions on editors and restrictions on pages that make a part of some of our most contentiously edited topic areas to ensure that disruption is minimized. Some typicalities of the DS system include the fact that it provides uninvolved administrators with the option of implementing a range of restrictions and sanctions, without necessarily requiring community consensus for the same (with the exception of controversial cases, where the AE may be reached out to). For example, in the normal course, an administrator would not have the authority to force a topic ban on an editor unless community consensus exists for the same; similar is the case with, for example, 1RR restrictions on any page. The DS system makes such and similar actions quick and within the grasp of the acting administrator. Additionally, a restriction or a sanction placed by an administrator cannot be overturned unilaterally by another administrator – giving more weight to an administrative action made through the DS system than through the normal system; for example, a block placed on an editor via the DS system cannot be reconsidered by another administrator, unless AE/AN consensus or Arbcom approval is obtained. With respect to your query on when DS should be utilized, my understanding is that when, in these most aggressively edited articles, the spirit of productive editing and collaborative discussions gets waylaid by tendentious editors, the quick implementation of reasonably proportionate page restrictions and discretionary sanctions would enable the minimization of disruption while allowing good-faith editors to continue collaborating on the said articles. Compared with the pre-DS era, when articles in these conflict areas were probably protected for the longest time possible to ensure that editors stop edit-warring and gain consensus about all contentious items on the board before requesting for page unprotection, the DS system I expect would have broadly reduced this need for long-term protection by effecting, say, consensus requirements/1RR/and similar proportional restrictions and sanctions to allow the majority of editors to keep editing. Although I’ve never had an experience with this system, your queries allowed me to perhaps read up on this area for the first time and actually gain significant knowledge – so apologies in advance if the answers don’t match up to what should be right.

Additional question from Coffee

15. How many warnings should a person receive before being blocked or otherwise sanctioned for violating a Arbitration Enforcement restriction?

A: My understanding of the standard provision on enforcement of restrictions is that unless any case-specific enforcement provision has been passed by Arbcom, no warning before blocking (or sanctioning) is required for users who violate restrictions they are subject to.

Additional question from Siddiqsazzad001

16. If you got this right then how you help new user's?

A: Hello, I don't believe one actually needs to pass an RfA to help new users. Of course, the tools provide helpful fixes – for example, I occasionally see newbies at the Help desk complaining about their articles having been deleted; the tools may help me to see the deleted versions and guiding them better.

Discussion

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Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review her contributions before commenting.

Support

Support Per nominators and I have no doubt she will make a good administrator. -- I am One of Many ( talk) 03:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support was actually planning on sending an email about this soon too. Very happy to see this going. TonyBallioni ( talk) 03:22, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - I supported the last nomination, and am more than happy to support this one as well. Good luck! -- Ajraddatz ( talk) 03:23, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. Solid nominee. Civil even in disagreements. Net asset to the project. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:24, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. Clear net positive. Dekimasu よ! 03:24, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. This user is fantastic. Seen a lot of their work since they're pretty multifaceted on this site - definite vote of support. SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 03:26, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I don't see anything that would suggest the editor would abuse the tools. SQL ^{Query me!} 03:30, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Net positive and per nominators.— CycloneIsaac ( Talk) 03:32, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support- Her last RfA had many in the opposition cite her lack of tenure as a pretty weak argument against adminship. A near doubling in tenure should fix that! She should make a great admin. Pagliaccious ( talk) 03:32, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I poked around for a reason to be skeptical and have found none. User has made great contributions. -- Jprg1966 ^(talk) 03:36, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Good content credits with three FA/L articles and a few GAs, respectable tenure, no disciplinary history, high AfD match rate, and a valid and useful reason for wanting to be Admin (specifically, there seems to be a need for additional admins at requests for page protection). The very useful page curation script serves as an extra demonstration of Lourdes' commitment to WP. Chetsford ( talk) 03:39, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. Per other supporters and noms, hands down this is a no-brainer! Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 04:08, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support This user would help cut down on vandalism and has the track record to prove it as I see. I support. Ral 33 ( talk) 04:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, no major issues identified with the candidate. Nakon 04:24, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Trusted user. Nice contributed to the WP:RFP, WP:AIV, WP:CSD and WP:AFD. Also she has approved bot account. I support her. Siddiqsazzad001 (Talk) 05:00, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
I believe you mean "she" and "her." ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 12:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Sure, why not? FreeKnowledgeCreator ( talk) 05:02, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Why not? Double sharp ( talk) 05:19, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support as co-nom. Regards So Why Mobile 05:29, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. Should have passed the first time around, probably. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 05:41, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Delete nominations and logs show suitable experience. FA work shows knowledge of quality editing. Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 05:43, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support ^{Baby
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Support. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 06:26, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support: Lovely editor, not much involvement in dispute resolution but I take that as a positive in this case. Alex Shih ( talk) 06:27, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Fine content creator. I am particularly fond of the page curation script. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:40, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. Anchorvale ^{T@lk |
Contributions} 06:45, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Per SQL. !dave 07:19, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. content-work a plus. more than likely to be a net positive Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 07:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per both nominations and particularly the answer to Question 3. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 08:06, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support previous concerns about a lack of experience appear to have been rectified. Clear content experience as well as experience in more adminy areas, looks like a great candidate. Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 08:11, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, seems fine. Good luck! Fish+ Karate 08:48, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support most definitely would be a net gain for Wikipedia. The Rambling Man ( talk) 09:07, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Lourdes has clearly taken on board the advice given to them from the last RfA, which shows not only the mindfulness to accept and act on criticism, but also that they are a driven individual willing to try again. I opposed last time because I believed Lourdes would be a fiery admin - this time however, they've shown they can cool off and act with a level head. They have the knowledge of how to act, when to act and when not to act. What more should we be looking for? - TNT^❤ 09:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - no concerns. Giant Snowman 10:08, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
– filelakeshoe ( t / c)  10:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support clear Netpositive. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 10:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Have seen her around and particularly impressed with her work. – Ammarpad ( talk) 10:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Seen a good deal of her work in various discussion locations. Am certain will make a good Admin. Eagleash ( talk) 10:42, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - I supported the first time around. Lourdes was perfectly qualified to begin with, in my opinion. It's a shame that they were forced to wait a full year, but "better late than never", I suppose. Kurtis ^(talk) 10:43, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Having checked out the user's AfD and editing history, looks like a quality nom. Lee Vilenski ^{(
talk •
contribs)} 11:26, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per previous. I felt the candidate worthy on their last run; things did indeed only get better. Les jeux sont faits! Of course, no chance of being the first support—without staying up until 3AM...just like christmas eh :) >SerialNumber 54129 ^{...speculates} 11:29, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support has shown plenty of clue and maturity. feminist ( talk) 11:40, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - The user now deserves admin-ship after so much valuable contributions. Good Luck Lourdes 2! -- SouravDas1998^{t@lk to me?} 12:18, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - great candidate, very good work. L293D ( ✉) 12:53, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Overjoyed to be supporting here. Let's get the boring out of the way: A review of your AIV and UAA contributions looks near perfect, your CSD noms seem quite well met, your AfD record is stellar, and you've had nearly a basket of advanced permissions for over a year to great effect. What's really important to me is that you seem full of cluefulness: a brief review of your actual AfD contributions show thoughtful responses; you've practically MADE the helpdesk, as far as I can see; you've actively worked to make the 'pedia a better (wikilove) and more effective (page curation) environment; you've had a full year of fruitful contributions since the first RfA; and boy does that Joe Roe comment just take the cake. Finally, I believe strongly that there is no need for standards creep, so let me just say that this is well overdue! ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 13:07, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support No issues at all. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I've seen Lourdes around and had occasional interactions, all of which were pleasant. My impressions are that this is a solid editor with an impressive resume. I have no reservations and see her as a net positive to the community and believe that will be the case as an admin. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 14:14, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 14:21, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Knowledge + Wisdom + Temperament = yes. 78.26 _{(
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revolutions)} 14:24, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - It's good to see your name back up for nomination. It's been a good year. Enjoy ma'am. - NsTaGaTr ^(
Talk) 14:56, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
~~support~~ More than meets my standards. Has shown willingness to improve and the ability to utilize constructive feedback. Clear demonstrated ability. -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 15:16, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Switch to strong support pre TonyBallioni -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 13:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Per nom and because of the answers given. Will clearly be positive for the project. -- Crystallizedcarbon ( talk) 15:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - clearly the type of admin we need. Her answer to my question on paid-editing (#4) IMHO approaches perfection. Smallbones_(
smalltalk) 15:41, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - With the credentials she has, she'll be perfect for defusing edit wars. WikiSquirrel42 ( talk) 15:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, looks fine. Has been here more than 6 months, has more than 3000 edits, has clue. — Kusma ( t· c) 15:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, per nom and her set of answers, she'll be an excellent and very welcome admin. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 16:28, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
( edit conflict) Support — Per nominations. Their answer to the questions are more than satisfactory too.
Regards, SshibumXZ ( Talk) ( Contributions). 16:32, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support has taken feedback from first RfA well, waited a reasonable time since then, and continued to make positive contributions. <humor>And of course per my prior nom of their alt-account.</humor> — xaosflux ^Talk 16:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - I've had good interactions with this user and think they would do a good job. Smmurphy^(
Talk) 16:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. -- Joshualouie711^talk 17:51, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support No concerns. A nom by SoWhy is a good indication that nothing is hiding in the shadows either. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(
or here)} 18:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
~~Support~~ She would be a great admin and she has many good edits! SallyPlease ( talk) 18:18, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Blocked as obvious sock. TonyBallioni ( talk) 19:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - a very competent editor who would make a great admin. Stormy clouds ( talk) 18:36, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support precious -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 19:05, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - definitely. I looked through Lourdes's contributions and I have no concerns. Pkbwcgs ( talk) 19:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support WP:TTWOA! Clear net positive, no concerns here. JTP ^{(
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contribs)} 19:27, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support: Don't see any issues. Clear net positive. — MRD2014 ^Talk 19:32, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Per nominators. No red flags I can see. - SchroCat ( talk) 19:35, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
support per nominator-- Ozzie10aaaa ( talk) 20:24, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support The answer to Question 5 and the nominations say it all, really. No reason to oppose. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:51, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support :D Net Positive. Has a clue -- Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 21:00, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Wonderful user and a very good editor who has proved time and time again she's commited to the project. -- Thanks, Alfie. ^{talk to me |
contribs} 21:06, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support – her contributions at the Help Desk are always polite, on point, and demonstrate a solid knowledge of WP's policies. – FlyingAce^✈hello 21:17, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Of course! No issues. Jon Kolbert ( talk) 21:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Although not necessarily over the moon with some of their interactions, I don't believe they will misuse the tools. Nihlus 21:43, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I've disagreed with her in the past. Nothing wrong with that. Give her a license to kill, sorry I mean a mop and pail. -- Hoary ( talk) 21:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Absolutely...we need more content creator admins who know...really know...what it's like down in the trenches. ^{Atsme
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📧} 21:52, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Seems very qualified. -- Hameltion ( talk, contribs) 22:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support From what I’ve seen this user is a great editor and already works in admin areas, when they have made mistakes they have been open to criticism, which is a crucial quality in an admin. Happy to support. Beeblebrox ( talk) 22:35, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - trustworthy editor. PhilKnight ( talk) 23:33, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - impressed by civility and by thoughtfulness of interventions. Alafarge ( talk) 23:45, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support -- Green Giant ( talk) 00:01, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support ... and had I been quick enough last year I would've !voted Support in their last RFA! - Civil, Trusted, Level-headed, All round pleasant editor to work with, They're a great editor and they'd make a great admin too!, Easy support. – Davey2010^Talk 00:07, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - No issues here. ZettaComposer ( talk) 00:42, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - No red flags is an understatement; Lourdes seems to be knowledgeable of policy and their self-control is evident. Very dedicated. BatteryIncluded ( talk) 00:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - A very fine all-around editor with good communication skills. I have no reservations. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 01:34, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Per nom. Also nice to see thoughtful responses at AfD and an understanding of the larger issues at stake in those discussions. Montanabw^(talk) 02:05, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support no reason not to. Banedon ( talk) 02:18, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - I'm convinced. GAB^gab 02:20, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Looks like the candidate is ready for the mop now. Best of luck! Mini apolis 02:34, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Lourdes is an excellent mentor, making even a correction welcome with that trademark ending - "Warmly".-- Rpclod ( talk) 02:50, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. I recall this editor being instrumental in resolving an instance of conflict mediation in the past. I cannot recall the example, but that's enough for me to support. Steel1943 ( talk) 03:21, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, this editor would be a welcome addition to the ranks of the administrators. bd2412 T 04:04, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, per everyone above. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 04:26, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, and happy to do so. SarahSV ^(talk) 04:34, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Supported last time, and am happy to do so again. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 06:01, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support looking at her edits, very helpful and excellent editor Galobtter ( pingó mió) 07:01, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support No issues. Philg88 ^♦
talk 07:31, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - I think she's ready now to gain the admin tools. Class455 ( talk| stand clear of the doors!) 10:47, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support The candidate has developed a high level of skill in multiple departments of Wikipedia. I see plenty of good analysis and helpful advice and little recent cause for concern : Noyster (talk), 11:16, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support: No issues overall. KGirl ^{(Wanna chat?)} 13:29, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, great addition to the broom brigade. Coolabahapple ( talk) 13:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I am persuaded that she will be a net positive. Lepricavark ( talk) 14:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Minecraftr ( talk) 15:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support very good content creation, great work at the help desk and at AFD Atlantic306 ( talk) 15:58, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Atlantic306: Think you meant support instead of keep? Home Lander ( talk) 16:05, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Thanks, been in too many AFDs Atlantic306 ( talk) 16:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Don't see any reason why not. Home Lander ( talk) 16:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support for, among other reasons, commendable demonstration of common sense in the General Comments section here. Thanks Lourdes. Innisfree987 ( talk) 16:10, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Per Andrew Davidson.Let's give the kid something to play with. ~ Winged Blades^Godric 16:18, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per Andrew Davidson. If you've upset Andrew, who we should have banned for his abusive sockpuppetry, you're clearly doing lots of good for the project. Nick ( talk) 16:38, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support -- TJH2018 talk 16:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - I have no issues with the candidate and they strike me as intelligent and experienced enough for the bit. As others have said, she would be a great addition to the broom brigade. -- TheSandDoctor ( talk) 16:51, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support – Good answer to the question I asked, candidate is a net positive to the project. Love the hair, too. Linguist ^un Eins ^uno 17:09, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Certo. -- regentspark ( comment) 17:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support as nominator (please excuse me for being late to the RfA, I was off-sick) Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Looks like a very qualified candidate. -- Dolotta ( talk) 18:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. Seems well-rounded and will make a good administrator. Best, Spencer^T♦
C 19:16, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Good contributions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:15, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per noms. Seems to have taken on board the feedback from her last RfA and looks very well-qualified to me.-- Pawnkingthree ( talk) 20:14, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per Andrew D. below. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 20:26, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support – I think you are ready now. CLCStudent ( talk) 20:58, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. In the first RfA, I was a "moral support" neutral, and I believe that she has significantly grown and improved as an editor over the past year. I don't see anything in the oppose or neutral sections to make me change my mind. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 21:40, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Just a follow-up to note that Shitpot Fry also supports. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 19:10, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support No red lights to me so this will be a net positive. As a sidenote, I'm surprised that at this point nobody came up with the classical question regarding usernames...-- Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:45, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
WP:BEANS 78.26 _{(
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revolutions)} 21:55, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support power~enwiki ( π, ν) 21:48, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support -- Why not? -- Church ^Talk 22:53, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - I complained about poor oppose rationales in Lourdes' first RfA and then didn't actually vote, that seems to have been a bit of cluelessness on my part. Happy to support now. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 23:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, based on review. Kierzek ( talk) 23:48, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. Not bad! Deryck C. 00:15, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. I've not interacted with her before, but having read through her earlier RfA and her answers here, I think she will be a net positive. CThomas³ ( talk) 00:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Why not? - FASTILY 00:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, Despite the fact that you have the same name as my dear sister, I will support you because you seem to be well prepared and therefore, I believe that you will make an excellent administrator. Tony the Marine ( talk) 01:07, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support appears to be teachable, have a good dose of clue, AfD stats are very good, knows how to develop content to FA. Can't see anything negative in terms of adminship. Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 01:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I have seen her making good contributions across many areas. Although we've not interacted much, when we have she's been willing to advise me, to correct me, and to thank me. I believe these are the supporting traits that all editors expect to see from any admin.( Hadn't realised Lourdes created the Page Curation Tool. Lovely - apart from that pesky, unexpandable box to write feedback in. Shame - I guess she'll now be too busy to fix that.) Nick Moyes ( talk) 02:16, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support mostly per nom, partly per previous RfA. Airbornemihir ( talk) 02:35, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Step hen 02:43, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
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[majestic titan]} 02:51, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I am impressed at how positively this editor responded to the criticism given at her previous RfA one year ago. She has improved her behavior significantly and I am now convinced that she will be a good administrator. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Good contribs, has clue. -- NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:00, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. I abstained from the previous RfA because I was torn. I could see the way it was going, and couldn't find any valid reasons for adding anything even as a neutral vote. Lourdes has evolved a lot since then and and has made impressive amswers to the the user questions. Despite the comments by our resident opposer, I can't think of any reasons today why they should not be accorded the bit. In fact I think they would make an excellent admin. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 07:54, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support; no major concerns. Jc86035 ( talk) 09:06, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per noms Ϣere SpielChequers 11:25, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. Fully qualified candidate. The opposers' concerns are unpersuasive. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 11:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support because having seen the candidate on the Help Desk, I am fairly sure that (in addition to being an all-around decent Wikipedian) they have the clue to RTFM when needed and to listen to criticism. This being said, I acknowledge Chris Troutman's (oppose #2) concerns about AfD as legitimate - my feeling about stuff like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AIOps is that Lourdes searches for sources (which is good), and once enough second-grade sources have popped up to push it into the gray area, she feels somehow committed to the keep side to not waste the discovered sources (which is bad, see also sunk cost fallacy). I do not believe that to be a serious obstacle to getting the mop, though. For the record, I had asked Q12 expecting an answer along the lines of "I will search myself for sources" and from there on the follow-up would have probed their requirements on sourcing etc. but the answer given is good (except for the "what if refs are attack/copyvios" part - the premise of the question is that you could not evaluate their content yourself). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 11:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Fully qualified. I missed the last RfA, and I might have opposed then due to a lack of experience from the candidate, but that doesn't appear to be an issue now. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 14:02, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Per Kudpung. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 14:26, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per Dennis and others. — DoRD ( talk) 14:35, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, clearly qualified. – 72 (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Seems like a thoughtful and capable admin candidate, with sufficient editing experience. Edison ( talk) 16:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Fully qualified user, will be a net-positive. – Miles Edgeworth^Talk 16:51, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support No concerns. Mkdw ^talk 17:02, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Very likely to do their job right. Kirbanzo ( talk) 18:57, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Per "oppose" #2. Joefromrandb ( talk) 19:15, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Will be a net positive to the project as an administrator. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 19:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 21:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I like the answers provided so I'll join the doggy pile. ALH ( talk) 22:25, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Easy one. No reason to oppose. Equineducklings ( talk) 23:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support A good candidature, no concerns. -- Sputniktilt ( talk) 23:52, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support. I said once that Lourdes would probably pass an RFA before I finally got around to writing a featured article, and it looks like I was right. Whether that's a testament to my laziness, my insightful commentary, or Lourdes is up for grabs, I suppose. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 02:42, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I would've supported at the first RfA had I seen it. "two years and 14,000 edits isn't enough" type opposes just boggle my mind. Q10's answer is fine as well.--v/r - T P 03:01, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support good judgment at AFD. Antrocent ( ♫♬) 03:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Experienced candidate. Quickfingers ( talk) 03:36, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support good editor. -- B dash ( talk) 04:16, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support -- I've had limited interactions with the editor, mostly at AfD, but what I do recall was level-headedness and an ability to engage substantively with pro/con arguments. The candidate's handling of the first (unsuccessful) RfA was also admirable. K.e.coffman ( talk) 04:39, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Totally – I supported the first one and will again for the first successful RfA of 2018. J 947 ^{^{^(
c)}}, at 04:55, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support after reading, I think this is a robust profile. Good work.-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 09:43, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per SoWhy. — C M B J 10:04, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support after reviewing edits and comments cited by opposing votes. Daask ( talk) 10:40, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Oripaypaykim (talk) 11:05, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Lourdes is one of those users that you assume already had the bit, and seeing her RfA was actually a surprise to me. Per nom. Keira 1996 11:07, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I'm seeing good content work, good tool work, and lack of screaming matches at User talk:Lourdes. CfD and AfD also look good. And I like the answer to Q5, on having learned past the issues raised at the last RfA. Answer to my clarified Q6 provides examples of good judgement and resolution, while my own looking around for admin-like work (mostly discussion closures) and any problematic decision-making patterns raised no concerns at all in recent work. Net positive for sure. —  SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 15:39, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - CLear net positive. Tazerdadog ( talk) 18:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Worthy candidate – Ianblair23 (talk) 22:14, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Good contributions all around, mainspace and their useful script that I see a lot of editors using. No deal breaking issues I can see, and concerns brought up by opposers don't give me any worry about the candidate. WikiVirus C ^(talk) 23:34, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support GMG ^talk 00:07, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support The user has well dealt a conflict. From the replies, I can say that this user will make a good admin. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 00:17, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Lourdes appears to be an excellent candidate for admin. She has the wiki's best interests in mind; she is able to accept and utilize criticism to improve herself. Centibyte ^(talk) 01:07, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Fantastic answers to my questions! I have no doubt Lourdes will make a great administrator. I invite her to assist in the AE arena whenever she can once promoted; intelligent, level headed administrators like herself are needed to help patrol the area. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 01:34, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Largely based on previous observations of the editor's work. -- joe decker ^talk 03:20, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Per noms. LK ( talk) 12:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Denisarona ( talk) 15:01, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Can't see any glaring problems with this candidate that would make me worry about them possessing the mop. — k6ka 🍁 ( Talk · Contributions) 16:25, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Thoughtful answers and full of clue.- Mr X 🖋 18:21, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Why not? Rcsprinter¹²³ (confide) 22:11, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Full Rune^{Speak, child of Guthix} 23:11, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support seems clueful and competent. -- Eurodyne ( talk) 02:20, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - I have a positive impression of this user based my observations of her work.- Danaman5 ( talk) 04:31, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Worthy candidate. ~ riley ( talk) 05:47, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support as net positive. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 05:51, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Sro23 ( talk) 06:03, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Always seemed level headed, opposes are weak, we need more hands. Ceoil ( talk) 13:39, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. This candidate seems experienced, no serious problems, not strong arguments from opposers. — AnAwesomeArticleEditor (^talk
_contribs) 14:22, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, absolutely. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 14:42, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support seems very competent, knowledgeable, and has clearly worked to improve themselves significantly since their last RFA. Every morning (there's a halo...) 14:58, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Appears to have learned much and well since the last RFA. Welcome to the admin club - here's your complimentary mop, bucket, shovel, whistle, and user boxes. After about 3 months, you'll be used to everything and you'll think of adminship as just having a bigger list of backlogs to clean than you did before - you'll see haha. I'm sure you already have a list of experienced editors that you'll go to for help and I'm sure you won't need it - but it goes without saying: I'm always available and willing to help if you run into any admin questions. Cheers and welcome - ~Oshwah~^{(talk)
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Support - Looks to have matured greatly since the last RFA. Seems to demonstrate a strong understanding of policy, and I don't agree with the concerns raised by opposers, which are largely borderline XFD cases. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 17:41, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Suppose - I'm very very impressed by her responses to the questions, her reply do not only address my questions appropriately but also provided optimal understanding of the limitation of the human nature and showed a sound understanding of policy. I'm certain she will be a very good admin. HandsomeBoy ( talk) 19:57, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support- Satisfied with her answers to the questions and her experience on Wikipedia. Looking forward to your work as an admin Lourdes. Cait.123 ( talk) 20:00, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Has clue, helpful, takes feedback well. Mduvekot ( talk) 23:07, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support per Chris troutman's links. -- Tavix ^(
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Support Excellent candidate overall. Will make great admin! Jjjjjjdddddd ( talk) 00:29, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 04:16, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support-- Jusjih ( talk) 05:16, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support, should do fine. -- Euryalus ( talk) 07:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support VibeScepter ( talk) ( contributions) 10:10, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support ok. Jianhui67^T★
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Support. Trusted user. Clear net positive. Opposes are thoroughly unconvincing. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 14:00, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support - Sufficient tenure, clean block log, no indications of assholery. Cullen's support is a big +1 and investigating a random link provided by one arch deletionist in the oppose section scores another point for me. No concerns. Carrite ( talk) 18:05, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support I see no reasons not to supply another mop. Ronhjones ^(Talk) 19:41, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Why not? Mike Peel ( talk) 00:59, 26 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Support Good noms, good work, good manner, what’s not to like. Can Lourdes be trusted with the mop? I think so. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 02:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Oppose

Oppose per Q10. The explanation of what is being done in such edits is weak. My impression is that the candidate goes to a random page, runs a formatting script (which one?) and then moves on. For a more recent example, see Hendrick Zwaardecroon. This page has had a clean-up tag since 2009 but the candidate ignores that, runs their script and moves on, as usual. What I'm not seeing here is any added value or appreciation of WP:COSMETICBOT. I am familiar with some other editors who love doing things like this and, in my experience, they tend to be trouble-makers; they annoy other editors more than they please them. I therefore feel the candidate needs more experience and understanding before they are given a more powerful toolset to play with. Andrew D. ( talk) 14:15, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Discussion moved to talk page TonyBallioni ( talk) 00:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Oppose Too much of an inclusionist for my tastes. Cases like this, this, and this show that she distorts GNG beyond reason, seemingly accepting sources at face value. Ironically, I have more confidence in her judging consensus at an AfD than offering her own opinion. But if she offers bad opinions I can only assume she'd accept bad opinions, too. Chris Troutman ( talk) 04:49, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Discussion moved to talk page L293D ( ☎ • ✎) 03:16, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Oppose - not to be "that guy who nitpicks", but I do have several concerns involving Lourdes. Two years of experience is a little less than I like seeing; my general rule is that if you're newer than I am or have fewer edits than I do, I am going to wonder what makes you so special that I should support you. I agree with Andrew's point above about high numbers of merely cosmetic edits done through a script that cause no change to the actual content of the page as it appears; this seems to be simply an attempt to boost one's own edit count. Also concerning is her apparent lack of use of the preview button, as on the help desk earlier this month and many other instances, causing her to make a half dozen consecutive edits to the same page in rapid succession. As such, if you account for these, Lourdes has far fewer than the 17K edits she boasts on the surface. I'm also not the type to bring up old business, but the first RfA, a self-nom twelve months ago, also seems a bit misguided, running after only fourteen months and 11K (many trivial or automated) edits, in blatant disregard to the advice of Kudpung and seemingly ignoring concerns related to experience and demeanor. While not blatantly uncivil, Lourdes can admittedly be a bit snippy at times, such as the many times she has brusquely pointed someone to a rule page with nothing more than a one-short-sentence explanation if that. In short, while there are no dealbreakers that jump out at me, there are a combination of factors that make it hard for me to support this RfA. 65 HC A7 00:32, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Discussion moved to talk page – Davey2010^Talk 22:27, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Neutral

Neutral for now; want to look around and see if the issues from the previous run have been resolved. —  SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 05:07, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
So far, I'm seeing good content work, good tool work, and lack of screaming matches at User talk:Lourdes; so far, so good. CfD and AfD also look good. And I like the answer to Q5, on having learned past the issues raised at the last RfA. Leaning support, pending an answer to my clarified Q6. —  SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 23:06, 19 February 2018 (UTC) — Moved to support at 15:39, 22 February 2018 (UTC). SshibumXZ ( Talk) ( Contributions). 02:47, 26 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Neutral leaning oppose. I opposed last time around, and Lourdes asked for feedback on 24 December 2017. I did a small-sample review and came across the 12 December Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fawzia Peer. It made me leery about several issues. My feedback is at User talk:Glrx/Archive 11#Request for feedback. Her response to my feedback troubled me further. Somehow, my small sample managed to find her "once in a year share of an unexpected slip-up". She also did not understand the interview quotation / PR release issue raised by User:Gbawden and seconded by me. I'm not sure the policy understanding is there. Sorry, but I'm pressed for time right now and do not have time for further detail or research. Glrx ( talk) 23:00, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Fawzia Peer undoubtedly fails WP:POLOUTCOMES and while, to justify keeping it under WP:BIO, not all of the sources Lourdes offered are platinum, there seems to be enough to demonstrate that this was a GF salvage effort by Lourdes, though you are correct that one or two should be discarded as PR. Were I !voting in that deletion discussion I would still have probably supported delete, however, I think it's really on the fence and there's nothing inherently unreasonable about Lourdes' position, even if it might not be one with which I probably agree. Out of a preponderance of caution, I pulled a non-representative, convenience sample of three random AfDs ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Food Waste Coalition, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Masters in Strategic Project Management (European), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uzair Farooq), from Lourdes' 30 most recent and in each of these I see a good !vote rationale, as opposed to vague waves, while two even have proactive identification of PR in sourcing. (Perhaps unbelievably, this really was a random pull, too - I didn't set-out looking for AfDs in which Lourdes demonstrated an ability to identify PR!) Chetsford ( talk) 00:28, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
First, I wish Lourdes all the best in her new position. My comments have nothing to do with which way she voted in the AfD. My cursory examination did not see depth in her argument, and that is why I brought up the FP AfD. When called on the FP name collision, she blew it off as the only error she made all year. Am I really that lucky to find her yearly error in my small sample? I don't think an I'm-almost-perfect viewpoint is appropriate for an admin. OK, it's a mistake, people make mistakes, and I can forgive. Given the small sample I used, I'm concerned about a high error rate. I don't have the time to peruse her contribs to check the error rate, so I landed in neutral. Her response also missed Gbawden's criticism about PRs; in fact, she doubled down on her PR interpretation by citing to the last line. I want admins to understand the issues. I think she will reject a PR that appears on a corporate or personal website (so your PR samples are not on point for my worries) but she will accept as a RS a PR that was published in the NYT. In other words, I worry that she judges by publisher name rather than actual content. Glrx ( talk) 03:02, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Neutral Awaiting answers. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 00:13, 21 February 2018 (UTC)Moved to support after incredible answers to DS questions. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 01:27, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply

General comments

Noting that the !vote (currently at) 61, by User:SallyPlease, is that user's first edit to the project. I'm sure Lourdes will be flattered; but in the meantime—in other places, at least, {{spa}} would apply, at the least. >SerialNumber 54129 ^{...speculates} 18:24, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
- I went ahead and blocked per DUCK after talking to a CU. TonyBallioni ( talk) 19:21, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
On Q10. There seem to have been quite a lot of these edits that make no change to the appearance of the page as read. It doesn't make me want to change my support, but in view of what happens to bot operators who let their bots do that very thing, it may be an idea not to make any more edits of that sort : Noyster (talk), 13:33, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
- I understand. Will follow that. Lourdes 13:36, 20 February 2018 (UTC)m reply
  - Fab. You’d honestly be surprised how many fights come up on my watchlist over people digging heels in over characters that don’t even show up in readable text. This is a wonderful breath of fresh air! Innisfree987 ( talk) 16:08, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
    - The issue is that it triggers watchlists at all, for trivia. Such edits are fine, along as you make at least one substantive change at the same time (that's even the rule for bots). —  SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 15:39, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
      - Oh thanks, I didn't realize. How sensible! Innisfree987 ( talk) 05:28, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
- Honestly my biggest issue with that edit is that it wasn't appropriately marked as minor. Best not to click save if nothing visually changes and it's just minor whitespace, but still, nbd. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 14:04, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
  - Agreed on everything in this thread. Dekimasu よ! 20:54, 20 February 2018 (UTC) reply
    - I also agree with everything in this thread. 65 HC A7 22:40, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
WP:200—You heard it here first. >SerialNumber 54129 ^{...speculates} 17:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
- @ Serial Number 54129: Great! But surely the number of people that successfully pass through the process is more important than the number of people that vote for them? Thanks. Mike Peel ( talk) 01:00, 26 February 2018 (UTC) reply
And there you have it. >SerialNumber 54129 ^{...speculates} 07:43, 25 February 2018 (UTC) reply
- Not good enough. Needs WP:400 :) !dave 19:17, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
  - This looks like a good candidate for WP:RFD#DELETE #2, by the way. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 19:33, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Indeed, G3 more or less applies :) >SerialNumber 54129 ^{...speculates} 20:51, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Keep - things that more than 400 Wikipedians supported are listed on that page, despite the bewildering naming. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 15:55, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply

I want to ask the RFA candidate a question, but she has already been asked too many questions formally, so I am looking for an alternative platform to ask my question since the maximum no of questions has already been asked. Where is the next appropriate route, her talkpage, this RFA tp or general comments subsection? The question is not too serious. HandsomeBoy ( talk) 16:27, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply
This is my question --> Wikipedia has a lot of pending controversies and admins (if they desire) have an important role to play in taking decisions that will ensure that this community is not ruined. Seeing that you've barely been here for three years, how informed are u on the most notable pending cases that have gotten to ArbCom, ANI, COIN or any other admin noticeboards? Will you say mediating on OLD issues involving regular editors on these noticeboards is an area you think you will be interested in? HandsomeBoy ( talk) 16:47, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi Handsomeboy. You're right that my tenure of just over two years is not enough to provide me experience commensurate to those who've been here for a lot more time and have been involved in a range of dispute resolution activities. While I have occasionally taken effort to read up on the notable ArbCom, ANI or other noticeboard cases whenever they've come to my notice, I suspect I don't qualify on the well-informed quotient as you might perhaps expect. I'm not sure about mediating on old issues; but yes, with the minimal DR experience I've had in the past (listed in my response to one of the questions above), I might initially slowly wade into mediating fresh cases which are not too complicated. I don't know if this is the answer you were looking for. Thanks, Lourdes 11:01, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply

I'm sure Lourdes wouldn't have a problem responding here if you're not comfortable asking an "official question" as they are formatted above. GMG ^talk 16:52, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply

There’s a maximum number of questions? First I’ve heard of that but it’s a good idea. Pawnkingthree ( talk) 23:45, 23 February 2018 (UTC) reply

There is a max # per questioner (of 2), not a max absolute number, as per the last RfC on this ( Wikipedia:2015 administrator election reform/Phase II/RfC) where such a proposal was snowball defeated. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:34, 24 February 2018 (UTC) reply

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