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@ Hedonil: The new search history tool at https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/blame/?style=new is very useful, but what does starting date and ending date mean? For example, is the starting date the date you want to move forward from or back from? The tool can be used without filling in those boxes, but it would be good to know what they mean. -- P123ct1 ( talk) 18:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, could someone please point me in the right direction for some documentation or other help about how to integrate an application into wikipedia? I'd like to make it available to other editors at WP:PLANTS, for performing moderately complex text reformatting. It exists as html with a separate javascript file (and as an earlier java applet). It has a text input area where the person would paste a largish chunk of text, a "convert" button to click, and a text output area from which they would copy the resulting wikipedia encoding. As a simple experiment, I've made User:Sminthopsis84/TPLConvert.js, just trying to display some text with a date; have imported that into User:Sminthopsis84/common.js, and thought that I could execute the javascript function from another page, as in User:Sminthopsis84/TPLConvert. That gives nothing. I've been reading Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Customizing_Wikipedia/Easier_Editing_with_JavaScript, but can't find an answer. Any help would be much appreciated. Sminthopsis84 ( talk) 14:52, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi Everyone,
I am a GSOC student working with Parsoid Team to build a Parsoid based linter ( Linttrap). Lintrap will detect broken wikitext found on the wiki pages and will also collect stats about certain wikitext usage patterns.
Currently, for this demo, Lintrap can detect 4 types of broken wikitext, But, other kinds of issues could be detected in the coming weeks and months :
* Fostered Wikitext : Eg1 * Missing End Tag : Eg2 * Missing Start Tag : Eg3 * Stripped Tags : Eg4
Linttrap also collect information about transclusion usages where multiple templates are used to construct a DOM structure Example. Here's our stats page.
Once a page is parsed, Lintrap uses parsoid based logger facility to log them to a web service. We call it Lintbridge. Currently Lintbridge is hosted on Wikimedia Labs and use mongodb to store all the issues. Lintbridge offers a REST api which can be used by bots and other applications to fix the broken wikitext. Linttrap uses this REST api to store issues into Lintbridge.
We have also built a HTML app on top of Lintbridge HTML Page. This is a basic app for now which is used to demonstrate linttrap abilities. But, It is quite useful as it is today. Feel free to browse over the issues.
* You can use the links in the table to filter the issues. * Click on issue type to filter issue by issue type. * You can filter issue by page too. * You can use Fix All to fix all issue for that page. * You can even use filters on the top bar to filter by Wiki and Type. * Each issue contain a info about wiki, page, revision on the left and the wikitext snippet on the right.
Just for the demo of this working prototype, we have collected issues by parsing 1000 picked from http://parsoid-tests.wikimedia.org/topfails. If you want to try the JSON API you can use the following routes.
GET /_api/issues : Show all issues (
http://lintbridge.wmflabs.org/_api/issues)
GET /_api/issues/type/issue-type : Filter by issue-type (
http://lintbridge.wmflabs.org/_api/issues/type/fostered)
GET /_api/enwiki/issues : Filter by enwiki (
http://lintbridge.wmflabs.org/_api/enwiki/issues)
POST /_api/add : Add a issue to the Lintbridge
If you think you can you use this info to fix wikitext, please let us know.
Inviting feedback, suggestion and feature requests.
Hardik95 ( talk) 18:30, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
The WHOIS links visible at the bottom of Special:Contributions for an IP address is a service running on the Toolserver. Is there a comparable service on WMFlabs? Nyttend ( talk) 12:24, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
I want to upload logos, but they must be in SVG format. Where can I find a free SVG converter online? I have searched for so many websites but all sucked except Vectormagic. However, they only give you two free trials and the words under the logo gets weird looks. Thanks, Nahnah4 | Any thoughts? Pen 'em down here! | No Editcountitis! 09:52, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
sodipodi:
all over the place, somebody's edited it in Inkscape). --
Redrose64 (
talk)
11:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Over the years I've repeatedly seen cases of an edit unintentionally deleting one or more previous recent edits. I think this has been brought up here several times in the past (here's one thread from 2009 [3]) but I don't remember seeing any clear explanation of why this is happening. Some could be down to editing an old version of the page as the 2009 thread suggests, but here are some recent ones that happened to me which I am pretty sure are not that: [4] [5] [6]. The last one in particular I am absolutely certain was not an old version edit. That is because on that one an edit conflict was flagged and the I made the edit through the edit conflict interface. The edit from ColinFine that got deleted was definitely not showing in the window and I definitely did not delete it. That one, however, might possibly be a diffferent problem as usually there is not edit conflict flag at all, the edit just takes, but on examining the diff later someone else's edit has been deleted.
Does anyone know if this has ever gone to Bugzilla? I can't find anything, but all the search strings I tried using came up with too many false hits to be able to sort through them all. Spinning Spark 12:52, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
See the "GeoGroupTemplate not working" section at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 127. I'm getting precisely the same results today as I was getting a week ago, although the URL got updated so that it's not seemingly relying on the toolserver now. Can someone explain what's happening? Para spoke of the tool hitting some sort of limit; maybe it's hit it? I don't know at all what that should look like, or what effect it would have. Nyttend backup ( talk) 13:41, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
On Turn It Up (Josh Thompson album), does anyone know why the second use of {{ albumchart}} is causing "Template:Album chart\chartnote" to randomly show up in a big red link? I don't see anything wrong in the coding. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 20:51, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
?action=purge
to the end of the URL. If a page has not been edited since the template was fixed, the old version may still be showing for some time.
2Flows (
talk)
22:07, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Hi folks.
Just a heads up, as of tommorow entity references (&, >,   etc) are going to be considered equal to the characters they represent when comparing string with #ifeq or #switch. For example
{{#ifeq:&|&|equal|not-equal}}
Previously would return not-equal, will soon return equal. In particular this means that on pages with special characters in the title (such as *, ', ", =, ;), the comparision has changed. Thus on a page named *foo:
{{#ifeq:*foo|{{PAGENAME}}|on page|not on page}}
previously returned not on page, but will soon return on page. Using {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME:*foo}}|{{PAGENAME}}|on page|not on page}}
will continue to work both before and after the change.
For more information see http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2014-June/000796.html . Changes are already visible on testwiki:. Thanks. Bawolff ( talk) 20:59, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
I had been reading a lot of Help Desk archives questions that involved moving an article and so when I clicked on one article mentioned in a question, I naturally found myself looking where the "move" tab should be. I have been autoconfirmed for many years and have moved many articles, and a "Move" tab still appears in the skin I use on most articles. Unless it was very slow to come up, I never saw any kind of lock on Samoa and yet I saw no Move tab. I'm sure I'm asking in the wrong place.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
So based on the above, how about, on move-protected pages, include the move option in the menu, but have it grayed out (like Windows and Mac do) with the message "this page is protected against moves" popping up when you mouseover? Then people would at least know why they can't do it. Ego White Tray ( talk) 01:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
John Reaves ( talk · contribs · logs) just applied pending changes protection on The Avengers (2012 film). Five minutes later I semi-protected it because when I checked the protection log there was nothing to indicate that he had already done so. See here where the last entry before mine was from 2013. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 22:59, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
When ever I start to edit Stig Severinsen#AIDA Freediving World Records then click 'Show preview,' the preview doesn't show the text in the form of a table. The first time I clicked 'Edit' at the top of that section, I made this edit to the edit box then clicked 'Show preview' and it showed text that was not in table format and I guessed that it was because of a Wikipedia source code glitch and not because of the change I made to the edit box before clicking it so I clicked 'Save page' then to see if that was the case, I clicked 'Edit' at the top of that section after I saw that the article itself still had table format in that section then without making any change to the edit box, clicked 'Show preview' and the preview still didn't show table format then I left the page without clicking 'Save page.' Table format does show in the preview if I click 'Edit' at the top of the whole article. Blackbombchu ( talk) 01:13, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
...did clicking on links in diffs actually count as a link? And can I turn it off? Thanks, Ansh 666 06:20, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
I noticed today that there is a new usergroup 'users' as well as the historical 'Users' (see the bottom of Special:ListGroupRights) which is automatically assigned to accounts. I'm guessing this was a typo by a dev, does this need to go to bugzilla? Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 09:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
In tables, wiki syntax/markup offers...
| ... || ... || ... || (etc)
...as an alternative to...
| ... | ... | ... | (etc)
...but, so far as I'm aware, it doesn't offer something like...
| ... || ... || ... -| | ... || ... || ... -| | ... || ... || ... -| | (etc)
...as an alternative to...
| ... || ... || ... |- | ... || ... || ... |- | ... || ... || ... |- | (etc)
What can work (at least, at present) is...
| ... || ... || ... </tr> | ... || ... || ... </tr> | ... || ... || ... </tr> | (etc)
...i.e. using the HTML "end table row" tag </tr>. I understand, however, that this is improper as it mixes wiki and HTML markup. So, may there be a wiki-style alternative, please? Sardanaphalus ( talk) 17:13, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
|-
doesn't mean "end row", it means "begin row", that is, it's equivalent to <tr>
not </tr>
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:25, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
<tr>
tag (for which the wiki markup is |-
at the start of a new line) is mandatory, but the </tr>
tag (for which there is no wiki markup) is optional (it's always been optional in HTML, but not in XHTML, which has no optional tags). --
Redrose64 (
talk)
08:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
-|
" or something else)...?
Sardanaphalus (
talk)
21:11, 24 June 2014 (UTC)</tr>
has been around long before my becoming aware of it – in fact, it's near-certain I came across it here. Mixing markup may be a bad idea, but, in the long-term, isn't the idea that something is "what we've got and what we have to live with" a worse one...?
Sardanaphalus (
talk)
00:07, 24 June 2014 (UTC)</tr>
without the next tag being either <tr>
or </table>
relies on browser quirks: assuming that we're not dealing with XHTML (see my post of 08:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC) above), most browsers, on encountering the sequence <table>
<th>
, for which the wiki markup is {|
!
<table>
<td>
, for which the wiki markup is {|
|
<tr>
(i.e. a |-
) in between. Similarly, if they encounter the sequence </tr>
<th>
or </tr>
<td>
, they will also assume that there should be a <tr>
in between. Since the <tr>
tag at the start of a table row is documented as being mandatory, not all browsers will assume that it should be present if it has been omitted, and so you mustn't rely on such behaviour. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
08:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
<tr>
automatically. So this is valid wiki markup resulting in valid HTML. -- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
11:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
23:00, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
<tr>
- is mandatory; its end tag - </tr>
- is optional. There is no need to mark the end of the row, because a row end is implied - either by the start of the next row, or by the end of the table. Wiki markup was devised on the same lines: the row start marker is |-
and that is mandatory; the table end marker |}
is also mandatory. Since omission of either of those is not an option, there is no point in providing a </tr>
equivalent. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:39, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
{| | ... || ... || ... || (etc) |- | ... || ... || ... || (etc) |- | ... || ... || ... || (etc) (etc) |} |
{| | ... || ... || ... || (etc) -| | ... || ... || ... || (etc) -| | ... || ... || ... || (etc) [ -| ]* (etc) |} * May/may not be necessary. |
Any further thoughts / advice re
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 128#Missing piece of wiki table syntax/markup?...? (Maybe I should enquire at mediawiki.org...?)
I imagine you might have quite a backlog – you seem to dispense advice and information everywhere! Very valuable. Hope you don't find it too exhausting.
Regards,
Sardanaphalus (
talk)
09:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
<tr>
tag has always been mandatory; the </tr>
tag has always been optional, except in XHTML 1.0 where it is mandatory (because there are no optional tags in XHTML). --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Sanitizer.php
recently. It looks like it is Sanitizer that closes these tags, not HTML Tidy.
Gadget850
talk
00:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)Maybe Gwicke (which is working in the mw:Parsoid) may provide some comments on this topic? Helder.wiki 00:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Instead of getting the image page, i get a metroized full-screen popup. You seem to detect my browser (IE11) wrongly and serve me the mobile version. My user agent is:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko
� ( talk) 08:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Is it possible to allow {{ CURRENTYEAR}} and similar parser functions to be included in redirect targets?
For example:
#REDIRECT [[Deaths in {{#time:Y}}]]
produces "1. REDIRECT
Deaths in 2014", with the one exactly as you see it, create a link, but it does not redirect.
Also:
#REDIRECT
[[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/{{CURRENTYEAR}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]]
does not redirect to todays RfD page but simply prints the text.
Has a bug report been opened on this already? Ego White Tray ( talk) 05:05, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Very recently, most links and pics started showing a mouseover hoverbox in Firefox, when they did not before. I have no problem with this, the problem I have is with the huge, unwieldy, yellow box around the text. I'm reasonably sure this is something defined in Wikipedia, as it doesn't happen with most other sites, and I haven't updated or changed Firefox recently. Does anyone know of a way to reduce the box display size to something...smaller??
The Steve 00:50, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
On my iPad, when I click on a location's coordinates such as in the infobox on Musée des Beaux-Arts de Tours, and then the Google Maps link in GeoHack's "View this location..." part, it takes me to the right location in the browser-based version of Google Maps. So far, so good. However, in the browser version of Google Maps, when I then click on the link to the Google Maps app, it can't seem to handle the prefix "loc: ". I'm sure it used to work. Is this a problem with Google Maps, or with GeoHack, or something else?-- A bit iffy ( talk) 11:42, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone know if it's possible to add items to existing groups in the CharInsert toolbar, or even add new groups? I would assume that there might be hooks allowing users to add something to their common.js or common.css. Any pointers or examples would be appreciated.- Mr X 18:49, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
09:36, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Please can someone assist with the styling issue described here? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
There is something weird going on with the references on the Heisenbug page. I think they're supposed to display in multiple columns, but I'm using Firefox and they display in just one single narrow column with a huge swath of blank space on the right. 78.0.236.159 ( talk) 00:53, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
09:41, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
{{
Quote box}}
out of ref 17; lose the two
{{-}}
which are also in ref. 17; make the refs consistent - either use
Citation Style 1 templates for all, or templates for none; fix the {{DEFAULTSORT:}}
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)A few minutes ago my watchlist said that changes newer than 45 seconds may not appear due to database lag. Is this normal or is it something to be concerned about? Retartist ( talk) 01:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Retartist ( talk) 01:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Me again, It seems that The dashboard is broken for me. See: webpagescreenshot. Using Chrome Version 35.0.1916.153 m, Win 8.1 on surface pro 2. Retartist ( talk) 02:01, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
09:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
09:52, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
This is purely a technical question and has nothing to do with the merits of my action or subsequent actions by another administrator.
I deleted Jet Naked Airlines. I salted it after deleting it. Although I can find a record in my log of my action, it appears that it is no longer salted. Did the temporary restore by an administrator automatically unsalt it? Although I can't seem to find the page protect log for the article, if I click on protect page, it shows at the bottom that I salted it and it doesn't show that it was unprotected. At this point I'm not sure whether it is or isn't still protected. I looked at this list, but I don't see any way to search the list for a particular title (I don't even understand how the list is organized or how often it's updated). Thanks for any help.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 11:40, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi!
I would like to ask any user which have personal scripts to check if they continue to work on
https://test2.wikipedia.org (now that
gerrit:139569 is merged). If not, please report any issues you find (or
fix them!), so that these scripts continue to work smoothly even after we fix
bugzilla:33837 (at some point in the [near] future). If you can also test gadgets in that wiki, even better.
Helder.wiki
23:38, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
/([^'"<>$0-9A-Za-z_\/])(skin|stylepath|wgUrlProtocols|wgArticlePath|...)\b/g
$1mw.config.get('$2')
We need documentation of this change, in human-readable prose, please. Right now, I can't tell whether my .js scripts need to be changed based on the esoteric discussion here and on the bugzilla page.
As a concrete example, does Wikipedia:AutoEd/core.js need to be changed? It appears to use "wg" variables, but I can't tell from the bugzilla discussion whether they qualify. If they do, AutoEd code will need to be changed. Many people use this tool, I believe. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 05:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
addPortletLink
).
Helder.wiki
14:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt.js uses global variables. -- WOSlinker ( talk) 22:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I submitted a few edit requests for scripts in the MediaWiki namespace. Helder.wiki 23:50, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
(Help Desk Suggestion to ask here) As far as I can tell, in any case where there is a "Lists of" category like Category:Lists of people by city in the United States that all articles in that category should have sort criteria for the entry in that category. So that List_of_people_from_Hillsboro,_Oregon would have [[Category:Lists of people by city in the United States|Hillsboro, Oregon]] rather than [[Category:Lists of people by city in the United States]]. (Rarely would this be done with a default sort) Would there be a tool that would help with making sure that this is true? For example, would this be appropriate for Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia? Naraht ( talk) 21:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone know why AJ Leitch-Smith is reporting a template transclusion error on Template:Yeovil Town F.C. squad using this tool here? Thanks, JMHamo ( talk) 22:31, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
I am unable to use the new "insource" search feature described at this mediawiki page to search using regular expressions. This feature was supposed to be enabled in CirrusSearch, the new beta search feature, on June 26.
I have enabled the new search in my Beta Preferences. I try to search for the example on the page linked above — insource:/foo/
— but I get only a red error message: "An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later."
It has not been a temporary problem, at least for me. I have gotten this same error message when trying to search for any regular expression using the syntax above. I have tried this search a few times a day for the past four days. I have gotten this error message every time.
Is it working for anyone? What is the trick to making it work? – Jonesey95 ( talk) 04:32, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Another point: "Recategorizing articles when templates are changed is taking about 90 days currently." Wow! You mean, like, if a template that contains a category changes then pages that have the category take months to get reindexed by Cirrus? That's horrible. I knew it was slow and I've always wanted to add monitoring to it but its never floated to the top of the list. I've bumped it up bugzilla:67419. NEverett (WMF) ( talk) 15:42, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
and {{
cite journal}}
, was
updated on 30 March. The changes included the creation of a new citation error category, ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:CS1 errors: authorlink. Between 30 March and 28 June, a few hundred articles trickled into that category as articles were processed (by a back-end null edit or something; the job queue?). I fixed them every day or two as they popped up in the category. The most recent one to appear was
corrected on 28 June, shortly after it appeared in the category. As you can see in the date of the previous edit before my edit, some sort of reindexing or job queue put the article in the category, not an erroneous edit by an editor.&titles=
is the key template, page or cat primarily handling some element or status that has become "other than reflecting the current state" (e.g. out-of-date). Sometimes more than one target needs to be hit in order for a cascade-effect refresh to occur. Hope that helps. --
George Orwell III (
talk)
02:07, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
"error code="mustbeposted" info="The purge module requires a POST request" xml:space="preserve"".
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<api>
<purge>
<page ns="10" title="Template:Cite web" purged="" linkupdate="" />
</purge>
<normalized>
<n from="Template:Cite_web" to="Template:Cite web" />
</normalized>
</api>
purged="" linkupdate=""
reflecting both the purge & the forced recursivelinkupdate took place. Please note - as with most if not all API commands you must use SSL (i.e. https:// ), otherwise you'll get the GET/POST clap-trap (I just assumed everybody logged in nowadays uses the secure server - my bad).The thing about narrowing down the actual target in short equates to URLs using encoding or titles using lowercase like...
The final note I've just discovered - this command works best when the target has no protection. If a target title is protected, a null edit is needed to get the re-cache ball rolling regardless of the API command being applied or not (perfect example, Template:! was just made redundant because {{!}}
is now a formal magic word. I can refresh it with the API a hundred times but because it is protected, 'what links here' remains frozen until its unprotected or null-edited). --
George Orwell III (
talk)
21:59, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
As of very recently, when you edit any template at the top there's a link provided to "Manage template documentation". This appears to have been made as a MedaWiki extension for the visual editor's " TemplateData" (see Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/21 May 2014), and someone has enabled that MW extension here without any announcement I can find. I was wondering if this was error; whether it was supposed to be just enabled for VE – certainly it's not clear what this is useful for, in general, sitewide, and not segregated to only appear for VE. It also is confusing in that I immediately thought, before exploring what it was (and I bet others would assume so too), that it was related to template documentation which it's not. This was noted at T65389 (where the creator of the extension basically said "nothing to be done about that").-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 02:50, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
<tempatedata>...</tempatedata>
tags in <noinclude>...</noinclude>
tags, and ensure that there is no extra whitespace between the end of the template and the start of the TemplateData. A little ugly, but at least we would have our TemplateData without altering the template output. One possible pitfall for this approach: some templates have an opening <noinclude>
tag before the documentation, but no corresponding </noinclude>
tag at the end. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
11:51, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Can someone remove that annoying Jared Preston ( talk) 22:40, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
button? It's an eyesore and really not helpful. Have it as an opt-in preference for someone who may require it.
button.tdg-editscreen-main-button {
display: none;
}
On a related point, I asked about transcluding TemplateData, and it appears that TemplateData can be stored in whatever page you want and transcluded, but it only accepts one TemplateData block per template. (Like parameters in infoboxes, if you have multiples, the only one (the last?) gets used.) So if you put some in the doc subpage and some in the template page, you'll only see half of it.
I don't know if it would work if the TemplateData were wrapped in noinclude tags. (Probably yes?) That will be my next question. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 19:42, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
<noinclude>...</noinclude>
, if it does not already exist. Oh, and if it can't figure it out: ask the user that is making the edit. Of course, the user making the edit should be permitted (e.g. a checkbox) to override the location selected by the script. These should be a normal part of implementing this type of feature. There is a normal/preferred method of doing things, but it is the script's responsibility to determine the method that is already in use, if there is one, and not change the method that is in use without explicit instructions to do so by the user after it has informed the user that this is a change from the current method of documentation.{{
documentation}}
to the template if that doesn't exist.
So apparently there was further discussion, and today's story is: You can't transclude TemplateData. That problem is now T69677. Mr. Stradivarius, you can wrap the TemplateData in noinclude tags: the response I received was, quote, "that’s what you’re meant to do".
The complete list of bugs (open and closed) mentions a couple of ideas discussed here, but not explicitly the idea of creating subpages. Given the variety of subpage names used at a few wikis, do you all think that would be a good idea? (I don't think that we have found any with no subpages, correct?) Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 17:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
The complete list of bugs (open and closed) mentions a couple of ideas discussed here, but not explicitly the idea of creating subpages. Given the variety of subpage names used at a few wikis, do you all think that would be a good idea? (I don't think that we have found any with no subpages, correct?) Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 17:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
#tag:
is an exceptional hack that probably shouldn't ever have been enabled given the number of huge issues it's caused, and the massive reduction in engagement on getting improvements made to the software (because people can just scratch their own itch with a hack).
Jdforrester (WMF) (
talk)
00:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
{ a: 'foo', }
.
Matma Rex
talk
19:07, 13 July 2014 (UTC)<templatedata>...</templatedata>
tags and the JSON code using a Lua module, and then preprocessing it with
frame:preprocess? That's what we're doing at
Module:WikiProjectBanner to save WikiProject editors from having to write their own TemplateData. (Or at least, that's what we will do when we finally get round to finishing the module.) —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
05:00, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
{{#tag:templatedata|Your templates here}}
with <templatedata>Your templates here</templatedata>
which can easily be accomplished with a simple regex replacement using AWB. It would be easy to change even if the run had to check the entirety of the template namespace (database scan, then actual changes made on the very few that will actually use this method). This assumes that the bug/issue that prevents using templates inside <templatedata>...</templatedata>
actually gets fixed. Even if that issue was not fixed and no other way was determined to allow the transclusion of templates effectively within <templatedata>...</templatedata>
tags then it would be a simple matter of using that AWB run to {{#subst:}} the templates – a change that could be reverted once transclusions did work. On the other hand, there is no way for us to know in the future if the deployed version of TemplateData actually fixes this issue due to
your refusal to use version numbers for the TemplateData code which results in no method to distinguish between the versions of
mw:Extension:TemplateData released with the MediaWiki software.<templatedata>...</templatedata>
tags. However, that is currently not the case. It is not clear when, or even if, it will be the case. If you would explain why you think using {{#tag:}} might break in the near future, then perhaps we could better evaluate if using it should be abandoned. —
Makyen (
talk)
09:50, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
<templatedata>...</templatedata>
tags. It would be necessary to consider what to do about a variety of issues, for example: Is the display on the page merged when the <templatedata>...</templatedata>
blocks are immediately consecutive, or just the API JSON; how to handle duplicate parameter names defined in multiple blocks (merge various attributes with last definition which includes a particular attribute superseding any prior?, last entry completely supersedes?; a way to indicate that a parameter is not used even if defined in one or more blocks; etc.<templatedata>...</templatedata>
blocks should be handled in some other way than silently using just the last <templatedata>...</templatedata>
block because that is contrary to user expectations. What a user would currently be expecting from multiple <templatedata>...</templatedata>
blocks, I am not sure. The presence of multiple <templatedata>...</templatedata>
blocks should probably either be used or generate an error.<templatedata>...</templatedata>
if and when <templatedata>...</templatedata>
has the capability to include transclutions within the block. —
Makyen (
talk)
14:40, 9 July 2014 (UTC)This is a continuation of the discussion above about generating TemplateData using Lua. Some Lua modules don't have their parameter names hard-coded into the module itself, but instead load them from a config file so that they can be easily configured to work on other wikis. A good example of this is Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration. For these modules, it makes sense to automate the generation of TemplateData from the config file; this saves users from having to type in config twice, and keeps the config page and the TemplateData synchronised.
Kephir and I are planning to take this a step further with Module:WikiProjectBanner. Rather than just having one config page for the module, each WikiProject will have its own config submodule containing various data necessary for the module. Initially, our plan was to get parameter information from the config submodule and use this to generate the TemplateData, the documentation page, and data for third-party tools such as Kephir's rater. However, if we aren't going to be able to generate TemplateData from Lua in the future, we will need to rethink.
How about this approach - instead of generating the TemplateData with Lua, we use the TemplateData as the config file. We load the TemplateData from Lua, check that the data structure is valid for whatever it is we want to do, and then make the parameter names specified in the TemplateData available to the user. This would keep our data synchronised, and it also wouldn't be liable to break when TemplateData moves to its own namespace.
While we haven't talked about using TemplateData for configuration yet, we did talk about it as a possible data format to use with third-party tools. That was back in June 2013, so a lot has undoubtedly changed since then, but at the time, Kephir
said that TemplateData would need to be able to handle grouping and type annotations — whether a parameter denotes a request, B-class checklist item, task force membership, more detailed information on allowed values than just "string", whether a parameter should be paired with another (like task force membership and importance, request notes)
. I'm not sure how much of this is possible in the current version of TemplateData, but we would need similar information to make TemplateData usable as a module config file. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
07:16, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
<templatedata>
tag. I just tested it and it seems to work as expected at this stage. There is a caveat, though: you have to null-edit the template itself for the TemplateData to be updated. By which I mean null-edit — purging or even purging with forcelinkupdate
do not work. —
Keφr
07:56, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
In response to a Teahouse question, I looked at an edit and tried to repeat it, but of course the table ended up under references anyway. I don't see any ref tags out of place, so something very strange must be going on.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:52, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
See User:Dank/trop1.js for a snippet. The Mediawiki function mw.util.$content.highlightText technically takes a single string as an argument, but within that string, it uses spaces to delimit the arguments that are passed to some other function (presumably) and highlights any of those arguments on any page (for the user only, it doesn't actually make changes to a page). It works great ... except that a space is a bad choice for an argument delimiter, since that makes it impossible to search for and highlight a two-word phrase. This has been reported to bugzilla ( here), and assigned a "low" priority, but for all I know, there might be a simple fix here, if the delimiter I'm talking about here could be changed to something else (tab would work, or an array of strings). - Dank ( push to talk) 12:39, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
It sounds like a product that haz been done in hit counters on web pages over and over again, with facebook statistics being curtailed, because they can name people, and geographical hits being the most interesting graphic. Why would I want to opt into an edit counter? Please reply on my talk page. 75.152.119.10 ( talk) 17:48, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
It's gone as of today. Is there something else we can use? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 02:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
FYI: The toolserver.org reference converter seems to be shut down
I just saw the following error when visiting both http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py and http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/view/Reflinks:
"Good bye Toolserver
As of July 1, the community run Toolserver was shut down. My tools weren't aligned with the Wikimedia Foundation's priorities, so they didn't make the transition to Labs."
In my opinion, this is a valuable tool that should be retained, not disbanded. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 02:55, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
// Add [[WP:Reflinks]] launcher in the toolbox on left
Checklinks has also gone. - X201 ( talk) 10:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
// Add [[WP:Reflinks]] launcher in the toolbox on left
addOnloadHook(function () {
addPortletLink(
"p-tb", // toolbox portlet
"http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py/" + wgPageName
+ "?client=script&citeweb=on&overwrite=&limit=20&lang=" + wgContentLanguage,
"Reflinks" // link label
)});
<ref>...</ref>
tags on the page and scrape each URL trying to obtain as much information as possible about the page. It will loose a lot of the "other" features of reflinks, but will essentially offer replacement "preformed" citations in the simplest form.(Copied from the AN thread): I don't know which employee who reputedly said [that 24TB was unreasonable], but that seems to be a gross simplification. I do remember discussing the topic with Dispenser about this, and I remember telling him that 24 TB is a significant chunk of the space available to Labs (our disk space is somewhat constrained and expensive to increase because it lives on a highly redundant array of commercial-grade disks and not on consumer devices), but also that he should discuss this with the Foundation to see if they could allocate the resources to support his tool.
I've also offered to help him analyze other methods of storage for his data (24TB does seem very inefficient for storing some 20 million external links – since it represents over a megabyte of data per link) but he has not offered further details of his architecture or engaged in discussion on how it could be adapted to Tool Labs.
Tool Labs remains open for anyone who has the desire to port/adapt/rewrite the tool. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 03:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
@ This, that and the other: The code is available and could easily be ported, but cannot be used on Labs as it is not under a free license. πr2 ( t • c) 20:26, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
"this user has stated on several occasions that they will not migrate their tools from the Toolserver to the new Wikimedia Labs infrastructure"
Why on Earth were we hosting tools which were (apparently) not open source, with the code available for anyone to fork? I hope that lesson has been learned.
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits
16:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I suppose you could say that the lesson was already anticipated and learned; but there's nothing we could do that would fix things retroactively. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 23:53, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
That said, any tool that has become a critical component of the volunteers workflow may be a reasonable candidate for integration into production (as an extension, perhaps, or part of core) and it might be a good idea to propose its rewrite/integration as an Engineering project. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 02:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I see above that checklinks was mentioned, but while this discussion is occurring, I'd also like to point out Dispenser's other tools like Dabsolver and Dabfix, which I've found useful for disambiguating links or expanding dab pages. They may not be as broadly useful, but they were handy and I'd hate to see them not replaced. — Ost ( talk) 17:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I just tried to check the transcludedchanges WikiProject watchlist tool, only to find that since the toolserver had been shut down and the tool hadn't been migrated to labs, it doesn't exist anymore! Is there any replacement for this currently on labs or planned for labs, or will we have to make do without this incredibly useful tool for the forseeable future? StringTheory11 ( t • c) 19:37, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
"And here is the code for your /Common.js
if(wgNamespaceNumber==3 || wgNamespaceNumber==2) mw.util.addPortletLink('p-cactions', '//tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/dyk.py?user=' + encodeURIComponent(mw.config.get('wgTitle')), 'DYK Notices');
- Or if you prefer for your greasemonkey users"
930913 {{ ping}} 23:35, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I ask because I think the loss of all these tools will affect my ability to edit, and perhaps that of others. I'm classed as visually impaired and use a screen magnifier to work on articles, and things like Reflinks, Dabsolver, etc, save a lot of time and effort. As I've mentioned above I can't imagine wanting to take on anything big because it'll be a nightmare trying to get it into shape. We do need something to replace the tasks these things did. This is Paul ( talk) 21:19, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
It's obviously extremely disruptive when a community tool being relied upon by the project's volunteers for day-to-day works breaks down and can't be fixed; and Labs was designed to make that situation easier to recover from. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 23:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I asked Dispenser at his IRC channel if he could donate the code for reflinks to WMF. I'm not sure how that all works and if the code could be used again. Anyway, couldn't WMF even pony up some cash for the cause? Reflinks saves editors thousands of hours. It's an essential service, no? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
WMF seems to have $22,171,889 in a great big pile. I suggest we offer 5,000 bucks for the product, and that's peanuts. That would leave WMF with $22,166,889 which is still plenty. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 00:11, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I'll just preface my criticism here by saying I don't understand the issues User:Dispenser had with migrating to code to the new platform, and everyone here seems to be just guessin. But I feel WMF isn't to blame for this fiasco. We should definitely not be held ransom by a developer, however good the person is at coding and however useful the product is. Any goodwill User:Dispenser created for making and allowing the use of Reflinks and his other code is slowly evaporating because people are feeling being left in the lurch. As for having to pay $X,000 for it, that would create all sorts of issues with authors of other code that was or wasn't given over as GFDL. -- Ohc ¡digame! 01:40, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there an alternative to Checklinks somewhere out there? I ask because I used Checklinks often to make sure my GA and FA articles are up-to-date link-wise. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 00:35, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
24 TB isn't needed. Legoktm ( talk) 00:58, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello! Thanks for the feedback about what's missing! May I ask you to keep the collection of what is missing / malfunctioning in one place only? It's so much easier for everbody to go through one page only. As mentioned above, we created one single page where you add the tool you miss most, missing redirects from Toolserver to Tool Labs and problems you can't name exactly (we'll sort out what you mean). You add also add yourself as someone interested in migrating or maintaining someone else's tools, so the upper part can work a bit like a voting for those who want to help to see which tools are missed by how many people. Would you mind to bring the missing tools you mentioned over? Thanks! Silke WMDE ( talk) 07:15, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Here's a thought. We can rant about some developers not using open source, taking their toys, etc., and it will make them even more alienated. Or we can consider that nothing is white or black, those guys (that guy...) did a lot for the community in their own way, and if we ask really nice, they may port the tools/relicence them under GFDL and let others work on them. So how about dropping at Dispenser's talk page, and leaving him a wikilove "thank you for your past great contribs, can you port/relicence your tools"? type of a message? I'd be surprised if getting a few dozen NICE requests telling him we appreciate his works wouldn't make him reconsider. I, for one, have been burned out of Wikipedia before, and few kind words, even in the occasional ocean of malice, did a lot to make me stay. Let's show Dispensers that we are not "leechers" who just demand and rant, and keep a lid on our valid but not so constructive complains of "he could've done it better" (yes, he could - and so could have all of us). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:57, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I am starting this thread to determine whether an RfC should be started to see if The Wikimedia Foundation can/should implement an application equivalent to WP:Reflinks, through payment, outsourcing or otherwise. I am not as familiar with the history of Reflinks as some people are, so I wanted to enlist feedback. Thoughts? -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 19:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
An RfC would be good. Has anyone asked Dispenser if he is willing to sell the copyright? Since he doesn't want to release the code, it means he either wants to make profit on it, or hurt the community. Hopefully it's the former, not the latter. Since WMF has a policy of paying for some code, I have no problem in buying code that has proven very useful in the past; it should certainly be a priority. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:16, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
This edit has just appeared on my watchlist. I don't use Reflinks (I prefer to make my own mistakes), so was that a genuine Reflinks edit, or a faked-up edit summary? If genuine, has it been ported to Labs? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 12:22, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
I am torn, mostly because of this:
<@Dispenser> The tools are running on my home machine
<@Dispenser> It running in a VM on my own personal machine over a Wi-Fi connection
(
t)
Josve05a (
c)
14:38, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
And it's down again, giving an "Unable to establish gateway with remote VM" message. GoingBatty ( talk) 21:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Just wanted to say how pleased I am Reflinks is up and running again, and thanks for doing that. It's much appreciated. :) This is Paul ( talk) 17:30, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there an alternative tool we can use from Wikipedia's labs? It has to live online as I often work from computers that are locked down for security reasons. TeriEmbrey ( talk) 14:14, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok so looks like we have or are going to have these great tools back. As noted above I have been removing the links to Toolsever from Wikiprojects pages...this includes links to Reflinks, dabsolver, etc..and watchlists. I am intersted in addind these bac to the project pages but with a template. However this time we should not just link dispenser tools but link the Wiki tool page and labs main page. Can I get help in creating this template. My main problem is a code that would detect the watchlist page by the project name space. This aspect is the only real help I need in making the template. The reason I am asking for a template is so we dont have the same problem in the future - that is 2000 projects all needing updating one by one over a nice template that can be amended at any time from one location. -- Moxy ( talk) 21:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
[https://tools.wmflabs.org/dispenser/cgi-bin/transcluded_changes.py/Template:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Wikiproject Watchlist - {{BASEPAGENAME}}]
once it's back online.
GoingBatty (
talk)
22:09, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Error: No text given for quotation (or equals sign used in the actual argument to an unnamed parameter)
Maybe there could be created tool for work with DEFAULTSORT (and other magic words, too)? It could determine which articles in specified category (or category and its subcats) contains or not contains the DEFAULTSORT. It could also determine if article's title and DEFAULTSORT has the same value, so it could be deleted from article (ok, this isn't so important). It could save some time checking categories for people. It would be nice if it would be working in other Wikipedias, not only English (I would it use in another Wikipedia, but I think it is interesting for you, my English speaking colleagues). -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 15:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
{{DEFAULTSORT:%%pagename%%}}\n
and replace it with nothing. Set the rule to run before
general fixes, and then AWB will try to add the appropriate DEFAULTSORT if necessary. Note that this will find some false positives that you'll need to skip.Portal:Nautical is, at the present time, appearing in several articlespace categories which it shouldn't be. I recognize that the categories are being transcluded onto the page by the "Article of the Day", Joseph Yale Resnick, but they're not supposed to be there and I can't figure out how to get them off. Can anybody assist in fixing this? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 02:15, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
<noinclude>...</noinclude>
tags.
Van
Isaac
WS
cont
02:39, 13 July 2014 (UTC)I feel that the Wikipedia:* namespace is holding too much, which
I would like to suggest that new namespaces are added. To make things easier to discuss, I've added subsections below. -- Gryllida ( talk) 11:16, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I tried out the WMF labs Language Tool and was surprised not to see the changes on my watchlist. By default, the changes are marked 'minor'. Might this be the reason these assisted changes did not show up? -- Ancheta Wis (talk | contribs) 12:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I found the bug: when I run LanguageTool, it removes the article from the contributor's watchlist. I had to visit the articles I touched to fix this. -- Ancheta Wis (talk | contribs) 03:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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I have tried to repair a broken-link footnote in Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, but have been blocked when trying to save the edit with the new link. I could not find the web address on the Wayback machine, CiteWeb or any of the other archive services mentioned in the Wiki help on this, but found it via Google under the archive service "archive.today". Is this archive linked to "archive.is", about which I understand there are or have been problems? If not, why am I being blocked? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 12:38, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
I am trying to fix a template, but so far, not succeeding. I have a specific question about a specific instance of the template, but the existing approach seems like a kludge, so I'd like to propose a better solution, which would require help from someone with real template expertise.
Specific issue The infobox of 2014–15 UMass Minutewomen basketball team has the title "2014–15 UMass Minutewomen women's basketball"/. The desire is to have the title "2014–15 UMass Minutewomen basketball". I thought I fixed it with an edit to Template:Infobox NCAA team season/name/sandbox. Oh duh, that's the sandbox. So maybe I simply need to copy the result into the main template. I'll try that, but I'll ask about the general issue below.
General issue The specific template to make this change is buried inside other templates, so whenever a change is needed, it takes some time to recall exactly how everything fits together. The goal, in case it isn't obvious, is to include the word "men's" as a default, include the word "women's" when sex=women, but use neither if the team name indicate the sex of the team, such as in this case. However, the approach is to use a nested set of searches for the unique set of words that identify when the descriptor should be omitted. This is already complicated, and is likely to get worse.
I think it would be better to do the following:
Wouldn't that be far easier? Plus, if some team changes their name, it means we would not have to rewrite the template, but simply change the parameter.
One complication is that the word choice is not simply driven by the sex parameter, but also the sport parameter. I'm not quite sure what happens if they conflict.
Is there someone familiar with template usage who would be willing to help me make this change, if it makes sense?-- S Philbrick (Talk) 13:29, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Recently a reflist showed up on Talk:Syrian Civil War and Talk:August 2013 Rabaa Massacre and there is no code or diff for that. I have no objection to having a reflist on a talk page, but the way it stands might confuse the editors, so I think something should be done to separate it from the discussion. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 16:14, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there a way to disable the "(edited with ProveIt)" tag next to my edit summaries? I went to the teahouse but apparently no one there was able to help. The only way to stop this, as far as I know, is by previewing my edits first, then remove it. But most of the time I forget to do so. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 16:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Someone added 3 references to User talk:Ebyabe#Wesley then I added a new section and the references moved to my section when I created it. Blackbombchu ( talk) 23:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
(copied from Commons) Statements regarding the fate of Media Viewer and the role assumed by various individuals on the WFM project team have been and continue to be presented to the Arbitration Committee. -- Gwillhickers ( talk) 02:25, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
AFDs that have been closed using class="boilerplate metadata vfd" in the div are not displaying on the mobile version. Example Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tube_Bar_prank_calls. The class used in {{ Afd top}} is "boilerplate afd vfd xfd-closed" and these display ok. Anybody got any idea what it is about the former class that causes it not to display? Spinning Spark 02:13, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
metadata
class, and a related matter has come up before, see
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 116#CfDs in mobile view - there is much related detail at
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 116#'Listen' template not rendering in mobile view. There were one or two related threads, see for example
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 119#Wikipedia mobile page have a bug for sister project links. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:25, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
metadata
class from {{
afd top}}
or modify the relevant rule in whichever CSS file is setting a rule like .metadata { display: none; }
none
to block
whilst being the "obvious" thing to do would unhide things that should remain hidden. If we choose the first approach - which has, in fact,
already been done - we need to do something about those AfDs closed prior to that modification, perhaps send in a bot to remove the metadata
class. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
16:06, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
{{afd top}}
? It does not have the template name in hidden text as more recent ones do. If we are sure that there is nothing currently creating this class, then yes, a bot would be the solution.
Spinning
Spark
17:00, 24 June 2014 (UTC)-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
10:08, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
10:24, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits is supposed to update weekly, but it is now 17 days old. When will this be fixed for the editcountitis sufferers? -- Djembayz ( talk) 11:51, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
See subject. If this is discussed elsewhere, please point me to it. Thanks. ― cobaltcigs 22:52, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there some option (global preferences or some javascript code) to disable the Media Viewer on all wikis? -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 12:07, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
mw.config.set("wgMediaViewerOnClick", false);
mw.loader.load('//meta.wikimedia.org/?title=User:Edgars2007/global.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&smaxage=21600&maxage=86400');
/* Do nothing */
{{
db-userreq}}
or {{
db-author}}
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:31, 14 July 2014 (UTC)Another alternative:
// ==UserScript==
// @name Disable MediaViewer
// @namespace http://myveryowntools
// @description Disables Wikimedia MediaViewer
// @match *://*.wikipedia.org/*
// @match *://*.wikimedia.org/*
// @match *://*.wikidata.org/*
// @run-at document-end
// @version 1.0
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==
var code = 'mw.config.set("wgMediaViewerOnClick", false);';
var script = document.createElement('script');
script.textContent = code;
(document.head||document.documentElement).appendChild(script);
script.parentNode.removeChild(script);
Beat me, if it doesn't work ;) -- Hedonil ( talk) 20:05, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
When searching for articles where the title contains a dash (e.g. 2013–14 Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C. season) but you type the article name in manually using a minus sign rather than a dash (e.g. 2013-14 Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C. season) the article doesn't appear anywhere near the top of the search list despite the fact that there is only one letter different in the search string. This ( [33]) is the search with the dash and this ( [34]) is the search with the minus sign. One solution is to create a redirect but surely the search tool could be a little more intelligent when most users don't notice the difference between the minus and the dash and keyboards don't include the dash. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spudgfsh ( talk • contribs) 20:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Sigh. People will eventually recognize the wisdom of WP:Short horizontal line. Think there's any chance of making it official policy?— Kww( talk) 14:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
I just had what might be a brilliant idea. Before trying to get consensus for it I would like to discuss the technical feasibility of it. Often, users are offended at being informed that they are editing in an area that is subject to discretionary sanctions placed by an arbcom decision. A large part of the reason for this is seems to be that a specific user, usually another person editing in the same area, is the one that alerts them to the fact that they are in a sanctioned area. Really, an alert of DS is more like a warning sign on a highway. It is there to alert you to the presence of a hazard, not to criticize you specifically. People don't usually get angry and feel judged by road signs. So, I suppose you can see where I am going with this: how complicated would it be to design and implement some sort of system that would automatically alert a user that they are editing in area that is subject to discretionary sanctions? Given some of the bot wizardry I've seen here I suspect this would be fairly simple, but not being technically minded I am aware of my own ignorance of exactly how this stuff works. Features desired would include:
There is already an edit filter that automatically logs each use of the proscribed template, presumably whatever bot or script did this could consult with it somehow. Reminder: All that is being looked for right now is preliminary information on how difficult this would be to implement, not a discussion of whether or not it is actually a good idea. (that'll come next at some other forum) Thanks in advance, Beeblebrox ( talk) 20:52, 16 July 2014 (UTC) I've just been informed that over a year of discussion and testing has already taken place on this topic, and the idea was rejected. I therefore withdraw this as probably unworkable. Beeblebrox ( talk) 23:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC) |
This is a quick announcement that we've enabled a test of a new feature which asks anonymous editors to sign up for an account. This A/B test will last for one week from today.
If you're interested, a specification of the new interface to view, including screenshots. There's also a specification for the previous interface we tested, and you can check out our data analysis. If you want to test this out for yourself, I'd recommend viewing our beta testing wiki in an incognito browser (you may have try a couple times, since it's fully randomized).
If you remember the previous thread about this, I should note that we fixed a bug which caused the popup to appear every time someone attempted to edit anonymously. It now only shows once per user.
If you're curious about why we're testing these changes, I'd recommend reading our blog post. Please ping me if you have any more questions, Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 00:17, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Update: we've turned off the test now, so you should stop getting any signup invitations when anonymous, except for the odd caching issue. For the curious, results of the test will be posted here. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 23:50, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
See the section title. I think the max length should be about twice as long as it currently is. Every time I couldn't fit everything I wanted to say in an edit summary, it would have fit if the max limit was twice as high as it is now. Where is this limit actually specified anyway? Dustin (talk) 17:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
tinyblob
field used here is 255 bytes long, as stated here:
[36] in a very roundabout way). The value of '255' is repeated in a few other places, for example here
[37].
Matma Rex
talk
21:10, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I very much agree we need more characters, often important information is left out of summaries because it does not fit
That being said I understand what is involved in changing the database schema of a table that has millions of entries and is replicated over many servers. It would require extensive downtime.
Though, there is nothing preventing a new table from being made to that the software will begin to use. An revision ID can be hard coded so the software knows to use the old table for any rev before that and the new one for all after.
An alternative to using a special rev as a border would be to put a special character in the old table(something that is not allowed in edit summaries) that tells the software to look in the new table to the longer summary. This would mean that regular sized edit summaries would be treated normal, and only long edit summaries would require a second lookup and take longer.
With a bit a creativity there is no reason we can't manage larger edit summaries. Chillum 21:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
@WhatamIdoing: I think "Why was the database field made so small?" best summarizes part of my inquiry. Dustin (talk) 21:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm ok with current field length, it's really up to you to summarise in a couple words so that it's not hard to follow an article history. Longer edit summaries would make it harder to follow (with my screen size even now many edit summaries do not fit one line in the history tab). -- Gryllida ( talk) 11:35, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
"Why was the database field made so small?" well... because someone thought it would be enough. Much alike 640K for ram, or 4.2 billion of Interernet addresses. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 14:28, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I think everyone misunderstood that bug: performing a schema change even on tables as large as revision
is a PITA but doable, and was done before, so it's not the reason why the change was repeatedly turned down by DBAs. The problem is that WMF uses a custom
covering index on every column of revision
table which means that the total size of a row is restricted by MariaDB/MySQL's index limit. As a result, increasing rev_comment substaintially would require a drop of that index which will result in IO skyrocketing on MariaDB servers, affecting site performance.
Max Semenik (
talk)
23:14, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
[[Special:Contribs/LongUsername|edits]]
" should count as 5 characters, since this is what will appear in the history/watchlists/recent changes).
Helder.wiki
02:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
rewrote 6 paragraphs - see [[Talk:Foo#Rewritten paragraphs, 15 July 2014]]
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Some solutions for shortening long summaries:
Not sure if all of these are good ideas or not, just brainstorming. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 05:51, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Recently (last two or three days), Wikipedia seems slow to load, and sometimes fails to load pages properly or at all. All other websites seem OK. Any known issues? 86.179.2.182 ( talk) 17:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Could this be a template that got munged in some way and is not loading? BMK ( talk) 22:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
(OP) Wikipedia seems back to normal for me too now. Nothing I've done... 86.160.82.115 ( talk) 20:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
For some days now, a number of tabs at the top of the first page of each Wiki article have been appearing flapped forward, obscuring the text, and they cannot be shifted. Can this be fixed, please? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 09:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Could anyone check whether this bug report is anything that needs fixing? I'm not sure if this is a bug in MediaWiki:Gadget-DRN-wizard.js, a brief glitch in the API, or a false alarm. At any rate, the DRN script seems to be working for me on IE. (The report claims it isn't working in Firefox.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:49, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there a way to subst a redirect page? For example, if I try to subst State Route 10-Y (Virginia) into a page, what actually happens is that the redirect target - U.S. Route 19 in Virginia - gets substed. -- NE2 02:31, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
{{U|Example}}
. If that is added to a page, it actually invokes {{User link}} because
Template:U is a redirect to
Template:User link. Likewise, {{subst:U|Example}}
would do the same. I imagine you would need to edit the redirect page, then copy the wanted wikitext, then paste it wherever needed.
Johnuniq (
talk)
04:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
The reason is for an AWB run to make redirects (in accordance with WP:USSH). For example, I can hack the regexes to create {{subst::State Route 10-Y (Virginia)}} on Virginia State Route 10-Y, but, as described, that doesn't work. The alternative is to simply create the redirect to State Route 10-Y (Virginia) and let one of the double redirect bots run through and fix them. -- NE2 04:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
This is a quick announcement that we've enabled a test of a new feature which asks anonymous editors to sign up for an account. This A/B test will last for one week from today.
If you're interested, a specification of the new interface to view, including screenshots. There's also a specification for the previous interface we tested, and you can check out our data analysis. If you want to test this out for yourself, I'd recommend viewing our beta testing wiki in an incognito browser (you may have try a couple times, since it's fully randomized).
If you remember the previous thread about this, I should note that we fixed a bug which caused the popup to appear every time someone attempted to edit anonymously. It now only shows once per user.
If you're curious about why we're testing these changes, I'd recommend reading our blog post. Please ping me if you have any more questions, Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 00:17, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Update: we've turned off the test now, so you should stop getting any signup invitations when anonymous, except for the odd caching issue. For the curious, results of the test will be posted here. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 23:50, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
See the section title. I think the max length should be about twice as long as it currently is. Every time I couldn't fit everything I wanted to say in an edit summary, it would have fit if the max limit was twice as high as it is now. Where is this limit actually specified anyway? Dustin (talk) 17:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
tinyblob
field used here is 255 bytes long, as stated here:
[39] in a very roundabout way). The value of '255' is repeated in a few other places, for example here
[40].
Matma Rex
talk
21:10, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I very much agree we need more characters, often important information is left out of summaries because it does not fit
That being said I understand what is involved in changing the database schema of a table that has millions of entries and is replicated over many servers. It would require extensive downtime.
Though, there is nothing preventing a new table from being made to that the software will begin to use. An revision ID can be hard coded so the software knows to use the old table for any rev before that and the new one for all after.
An alternative to using a special rev as a border would be to put a special character in the old table(something that is not allowed in edit summaries) that tells the software to look in the new table to the longer summary. This would mean that regular sized edit summaries would be treated normal, and only long edit summaries would require a second lookup and take longer.
With a bit a creativity there is no reason we can't manage larger edit summaries. Chillum 21:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
@WhatamIdoing: I think "Why was the database field made so small?" best summarizes part of my inquiry. Dustin (talk) 21:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm ok with current field length, it's really up to you to summarise in a couple words so that it's not hard to follow an article history. Longer edit summaries would make it harder to follow (with my screen size even now many edit summaries do not fit one line in the history tab). -- Gryllida ( talk) 11:35, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
"Why was the database field made so small?" well... because someone thought it would be enough. Much alike 640K for ram, or 4.2 billion of Interernet addresses. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 14:28, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I think everyone misunderstood that bug: performing a schema change even on tables as large as revision
is a PITA but doable, and was done before, so it's not the reason why the change was repeatedly turned down by DBAs. The problem is that WMF uses a custom
covering index on every column of revision
table which means that the total size of a row is restricted by MariaDB/MySQL's index limit. As a result, increasing rev_comment substaintially would require a drop of that index which will result in IO skyrocketing on MariaDB servers, affecting site performance.
Max Semenik (
talk)
23:14, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
[[Special:Contribs/LongUsername|edits]]
" should count as 5 characters, since this is what will appear in the history/watchlists/recent changes).
Helder.wiki
02:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
rewrote 6 paragraphs - see [[Talk:Foo#Rewritten paragraphs, 15 July 2014]]
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Some solutions for shortening long summaries:
Not sure if all of these are good ideas or not, just brainstorming. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 05:51, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Recently (last two or three days), Wikipedia seems slow to load, and sometimes fails to load pages properly or at all. All other websites seem OK. Any known issues? 86.179.2.182 ( talk) 17:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Could this be a template that got munged in some way and is not loading? BMK ( talk) 22:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
(OP) Wikipedia seems back to normal for me too now. Nothing I've done... 86.160.82.115 ( talk) 20:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
For some days now, a number of tabs at the top of the first page of each Wiki article have been appearing flapped forward, obscuring the text, and they cannot be shifted. Can this be fixed, please? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 09:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Could anyone check whether this bug report is anything that needs fixing? I'm not sure if this is a bug in MediaWiki:Gadget-DRN-wizard.js, a brief glitch in the API, or a false alarm. At any rate, the DRN script seems to be working for me on IE. (The report claims it isn't working in Firefox.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:49, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there a way to subst a redirect page? For example, if I try to subst State Route 10-Y (Virginia) into a page, what actually happens is that the redirect target - U.S. Route 19 in Virginia - gets substed. -- NE2 02:31, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
{{U|Example}}
. If that is added to a page, it actually invokes {{User link}} because
Template:U is a redirect to
Template:User link. Likewise, {{subst:U|Example}}
would do the same. I imagine you would need to edit the redirect page, then copy the wanted wikitext, then paste it wherever needed.
Johnuniq (
talk)
04:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
The reason is for an AWB run to make redirects (in accordance with WP:USSH). For example, I can hack the regexes to create {{subst::State Route 10-Y (Virginia)}} on Virginia State Route 10-Y, but, as described, that doesn't work. The alternative is to simply create the redirect to State Route 10-Y (Virginia) and let one of the double redirect bots run through and fix them. -- NE2 04:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Rummaging through enwiki-20140707-category.sql, I discovered sixty entries that contain negative numbers in at least one of the fields counting the number of articles, categories and files in a given category.
A few of the categories don't exist or have been deleted, but many of them look perfectly fine. Is this a feature or a bug? Paradoctor ( talk) 10:05, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Are there any known conflicts between HotCat and other gadgets? It hasn't been working for me at all for many months now, but I never bothered to report it because it wasn't (and isn't) a very big deal. This is under Windows 7, Firefox 30 and the MonoBook skin. I looked at my preferences and it's checked off. I unchecked, saved, rechecked and saved again, no difference. It's not that HotCat doesn't function, it's that the HotCat (+)(-) etc. don't even show up. I use HotCat regularly on Commons with the exact same set up, so I thought it might be something else I have installed here that's not installed over there, and that maybe someone had already reported a problem. BMK ( talk) 01:55, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
/* like this */
(or, // like this
, in the end of a line), but not
<!-- like this -->.
Helder.wiki
03:51, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a newbie and I brought this up over in the Teahouse. They suggested I bring it here. I used "save as PDF" to download an article on the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. When I looked at the resulting PDF and compared to the live article, a number of citations were missing (13 cites on the PDF and 18 on the live article.) FYI the missing citations were not very recent additions. The entire list of citations on the PDF appear to be from a much older version of the article. I see you discussed a problem like this last year, but it doesn't appear to be resolved so I figured I'd bring it to your attention. I was using a firefox browser. It happened on a Mac and a PC. Thanks Savannah38 ( talk) 14:38, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
<ref>...</ref>
tags. The last time this was reported was at
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 127#PDF printouts have lost some harv citation detail. There's nothing we can do in general terms until
bugzilla:46115 is sorted. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
I ran a script search following the recent announcement by Brad Jorsch:
Found 3 matches:
-- Krinkle ( talk) 18:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
On the Sacchin dab page the last entry has a redlink. But if you click on you get (via a redirect) to an article. How so? DexDor ( talk) 19:06, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Bigger screens, both on desktops & laptop, as well as mobile device have left images on foundation wikis looking rather small these days.
Based on research from the Analytics group "There are 15580 instances logged across 393 wikis in log.PrefUpdate_5563398" to the preference that stores thumbnail default size. On english Wikipedia the current value is 220px for "default" sized thumbnail images, the size logged in and logged out users see if they haven't manually changed their preference. Of the ~15k users who have changes this preference the trend is to set the preference to a larger size, usually 300px as seen by the graph included in the bug for this issue eventually I'd love for us to move to responsively sized images, but perhaps thats a seperate discussion.
As proposed this would change the default value for "Thumbnail size" which would affect logged out users, and users who had never modified the value of "Thumbnail size" in preferences.
I'd like to close this discussion by Wednesday July 16 2014
Jared Zimmerman ( talk) 19:35, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Make foundation wikis and mediawiki software thumbnail style images use 300px (rather than current default of 220px used by most sites) size based on user data provided by Analytics Team.
~1 billion pageviews per month? I'm guessing the amount of pageviews per month from mobile devices with smaller screens such as cellphones are likely higher. Please just show the data. Thanks. — {{U| Technical 13}} ( e • t • c) 21:19, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
|upright
parameter (which reduces the default width by 25%), see
Wikipedia:Picture tutorial#Upright images. I just applied these two fixes to the article, care to look again?
Matma Rex
talk
17:24, 11 July 2014 (UTC)|upright
is not new, it has existed for years. It doesn't matters much anyway, it is sufficient not to use |left
. MediaWiki should be smart enough to "turn |upright
on", in a way, but it currently isn't – there was a plan to fix it, but like every new idea it was met with a backlash right here. (I don't have links handy, you can probably find it somewhere, google "square bounding box thumbs mediawiki".)
Matma Rex
talk
18:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)weird hackish waysto put images next to each other or format them a specific way that looks good at their resolution (I'd guess most have no idea that a slight change from their resolution completely breaks their "perfect" formatting). The point is, that there has to be a reason they are using these methods, and my guess is because the "default" method doesn't work right or doesn't look right at the OPs resolution, so they try to "fix" it, which of course breaks it for almost everyone else. I think the point being made here is that failing to consider these issues and changing the default size is going to exponentially worsen said cases and we are going to see more of said cases. So, the question becomes, how do we fix the root cause and how do we make this work for as many readers (whether they edit or not) as we can. The first thing that comes to mind is to actually make use of @media css and set different defaults for different viewing screen sizes and get rid of the option all together. This would be the best stopgap in my mind until the dynamic size blockers are fixed. — {{U| Technical 13}} ( e • t • c) 19:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
|upright
" parameter, which shrinks the thumb to ~75% width (details in
WP:PIC#upright). That results in these size-pairs, for each of the standard (and considered) options: 220px/170px, 250px/190px, 300px/230px. See the images in the FA
Cuban macaw, for examples.
Quiddity (
talk)
20:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC)A larger format is appropriate is some situations. I could support the idea of offering two default sizes, if that is not a contradiction in terms, one for a "thumbnail" image (already much larger than the nail of most people's thumbs – elephants don't count), and one for an "expanded" or "prominent" image on the order of half the width of a desktop screen. ~ Ningauble ( talk) 17:54, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
|upright
parameter where they should, or are specifically overriding the default sizes in various places, eg.
Roy Phillipps,
SS Arctic disaster,
Royal baccarat scandal and
Pope Paul III and His Grandsons. Possibly, increasing the default size would help resolve these issues.
Quiddity (
talk)
00:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
And no, I really do not think making all of the images larger by default is a satisfactory resolution for the need to make some of the images larger. I was specifically referring to situations where one-size-fits-all is not fitting. If this is too far off topic or outside the box in a discussion of what the single default size should be, then please disregard it. ~ Ningauble ( talk) 13:20, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you everyone who added feedback, concerns, responses, and clarification. We appreciate your time and involvement. At this time I'd like to request an uninvolved 3rd party close and summarize the thread. Thank you again. Jared Zimmerman ( talk) 06:00, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Guys, what is the RGB code for blue and red links? -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 08:31, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
The cite tools don't work on safari or chrome on the iPad, the window pops up but the fields are not editable. Anyone else have this issue? GimliDotNet ( Speak to me, Stuff I've done) 21:10, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
[45] versus [46] Where did it go?? -- Kendrick7 talk 02:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
<ref example>
which made an unclosed reference. Please add your signature again.
Johnuniq (
talk)
03:54, 20 July 2014 (UTC)I've configured phpMyAdmin so anyone can run SQL queries on their own. Enjoy! — Dispenser 00:04, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
It would be a good idea to have a tool by which users not very familiar with SQL or Labs can request queries to be run, provided it has human supervision, but that was just begging for trouble. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 00:28, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
So I take it that all issues have been addressed and we can reinstate this incredibly useful tool? — Dispenser 15:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I would have though this obvious enough to go without saying, but I've added a point to the Tool Labs rules to reiterate common sense. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 15:11, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Greetings, (I have forgotten), could someone provide me the page link that controls notifications above watchlist (example: A new discussion is taking place on ABC. [dismiss]). Thanks Tito☸ Dutta 05:13, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
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07:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm increasingly seeing links (and sometimes even templates) in section headings. AIUI, this shouldn't be done. How can we encourage editors not to do so? Should we raise a bug for mediawiki to remove such markup from headings? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:13, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I came across one video clip for ULS help for Telugu language wikipedia as shown below. The clip is usefull but it does not show how to access help page. We will apreciate if some one helps us with simmiller clip for Marathi language.
Thanks & Regards Mahitgar ( talk) 15:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Further to recent discussion, about {{ Authority control}}, it also appears that {{ Commons category}} does not appear on our mobile view or app; and no doubt its sibling templates and others are similarly affected.
This will affect editors little, since most are likely to be working on in desktop-view, but a significant number of our readers are on mobile devices. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
metadata
class.
About 380 other templates also use the module.
SiBr4 (
talk)
14:20, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
|metadata=no
to the {{
side box}}
that is inside
Template:Sister. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
16:44, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
It also appears that anything inside {{ Collapse top}}/{{ Collapse bottom}} is hidden on mobile. See:
example
|
---|
Foo |
This really isn't on. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:33, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
navbox
class. Same issue as with
Template:Authority control.
SiBr4 (
talk)
09:25, 22 July 2014 (UTC)I'm in the process of converting lots of Bibtex entries into wikipedia-friendly UTF-8. Consider the following bibtex entry taken from Mathematical Reviews:
@preamble{ "\def\cdprime{$''$} " } @article {MR0178390, AUTHOR = {Erd{\H{o}}{\v{s}}, Paul}, TITLE = {On some geometric problems}, JOURNAL = {Fiz.-Mat. Spis. B\u ulgar. Akad. Nauk.}, FJOURNAL = {B\cdprime lgarska Akademiya na Naukite. Fizicheski Institut. Matematicheski Institut. Fiziko-Matematichesko Spisanie}, VOLUME = {5 (38)}, YEAR = {1962}, PAGES = {205--212}, ISSN = {0015-3265}, MRCLASS = {50.00}, MRNUMBER = {0178390 (31 \#2648)}, }
Per [67], I'm guessing \cdprime is supposed to be ъ or something similar, and MR def'ed it to a null character on the assumption that most people wouldn't have the cyrillic style file included. But honestly, my LaTeX isn't good enough to be sure that's what's going on. I'm not able to get this to compile on my home machine.
Thanks, Lesser Cartographies ( talk) 04:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
(update) Worldcat uses "Bŭlgarska akademii︠a︡" and "Bulgarska Akademii︠a︡ ". Way out of my depth here.... Lesser Cartographies ( talk) 04:57, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
B′′lgarska. I'm going to chalk this up to a strange error at MR and follow your advice and use
Bŭgarska. Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it. Lesser Cartographies ( talk) 06:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
So, according to this, once an account is unified that name is reserved on all Wikimedia wiki's. So I have a few questions:
Back when this feature was enabled I could have swore I successfully unified my account. Then, sometime in 2010 or so, another user wanting to use my username on pt-wiki got a bureaucrat to rename them to my name. Now my account is not unified and refuses to unify as I don't have the password for that account. Is this a bug, or a feature, or am I misremembering that I unified my account? =)
Thanks! — Locke Cole • t • c 01:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
It seems intuitive to me: Special:Email should redirect to Special:EmailUser. I was having a chat in IRC, on #wikipedia-en-help, and I asked a user to email me, and gave the wrong link. Redirects are cheap and this should save (some) time and confusion. I mean, who would you be emailing other than users? I was going to go to bugzilla but decided to get consensus first. Comments? Thanks, Lixxx235 Got a complaint? 04:48, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
At
Template:IPvandal/testcases, I want to include a set of tests that showed the results given by a specific old version (581205260) of the template. I read and tried
Help:Permanent link, but it doesn't work for templates (it just becomes a link to the specified template; it doesn't transclude it). How can I transclude this old version of {{
IPvandal}}
? —[
AlanM1(
talk)]—
14:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
With certain articles, we get a lot of editors working at once on the article, with multiple edit conflicts etc. Recently, Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 has been affected by this.
Would it be technically possible to introduce a "timer" preventing the article from being edited for a short period of time (i.e. not more than 5 minutes) after the last edit? Of course, if such a feature was technically possible, there would need to be due discussion as to its desirability, but there's no point in discussing the latter if the former isn't possible, is there? Mjroots ( talk) 20:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that sometimes I have been getting edit conflicts on that same article's talk pages... caused by editors editing different sections (I am relatively sure of this, although I am not certain). Has anyone else experienced this issue? Dustin (talk) 22:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Have a look at the end of Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 17; there are many sections of discussions where editors are proposing or challenging text from the article, and have included said text from the main page, refs tags and all. Is there a way to address this via technical means, e.g. suppress the output of a reflist on a page? Tarc ( talk) 14:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm running IE11, and I've always used this or previous versions since I began editing in 2006. I've always known that I can't get a full-resolution SVG by clicking on the image when viewing its description page: I have to click one of the links after "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes", or rightclick to get Properties and go to the address given in the "Address (URL)" line, because I've never had software capable of viewing or editing SVGs (aside from Notepad), and as a result it's always asked me if I want to download the SVG, or download software to view it, or something like that.
In the last couple of weeks, I've discovered that this is no longer the case: going to an SVG's description page and clicking on the image will take me to a larger-resolution version of the image, as if I'd clicked on a PNG or JPG. For example, clicking on the image itself at File:NRHP Counties Net Quality.svg takes me to https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/NRHP_Counties_Net_Quality.svg without problem. Is this something new with our software, or something new with IE? I've not changed anything with my browser, aside from routine updates from Microsoft which, I suppose, could have included the capability to view online SVGs. Nyttend ( talk) 01:05, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
on pages with many references i find it difficult to find the reference i clicked because the highlight colour is too much like the page colour. is there a way i can make it more obvious? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxami ( talk • contribs) 10:31, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
ol.references li:target, sup.reference:target, span.citation:target {
background-color: #DEF;
}
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
10:49, 22 July 2014 (UTC)I am using Wikipedia in Chrome on the iPad. When I visit the site, I am redirected to the mobile version. I always tap on the desktop link at the bottom of the page and I get the desktop version. Wikipedia used to remember my preference and give me the desktop version on subsequent visits, but now it always redirects me to the mobile version. I don't want the mobile version - I want the desktop version! Any solutions - I don't mind using JavaScript?
Tracey Lowndes ( talk) 17:35, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Did something change in recent months relating to the way MediaWiki handles [[w:(lang):Example]] links? Previously, [[w:de:Australien]] should have worked in exactly the same manner as [[:de:Australien]] to produce a link to this page, however it doesn't seem to work anymore, for any non-English language code. For some reason, the en language code still works: w:en:Test and en:Test both do the same thing. -- benlisquare T• C• E 17:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
[[:w:de:Australien]]
→
w:de:Australien), or omit the initial w
([[:de:Australien]]
→
de:Australien). So long as it begins with a colon, it's treated as a clickable link, not a
H:ILL. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:36, 16 July 2014 (UTC))
This is now tracked as T70085, with a fix pending review. Matma Rex talk 23:05, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm working on a Lua replacement for {{ UND}}
My original goal was to allow an optional parameter to indicate that it should be signed. I'm still mulling how to do that, but wanted to recreate the existing functionality first.
My draft attempt is Module:Sandbox/Sphilbrick/UNDiftest
My main issues:
I know I still have to write documentation and create testcases. I will work on that, but want to make sure I don't have to fundamentally restructure first.-- S Philbrick (Talk) 17:39, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
{{#expr:}}
parser function, covered at
m:Help:Calculation. For example, {{#expr:2+2}}
→ 4 --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
mw.ext.ParserFunctions.expr("2+2")
inside Lua.
Jackmcbarn (
talk)
20:59, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
For ease of access, Karl Smesko record
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What is the correct sintax for some HTML code?
Variant A | Variant B | Variant C | |
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background | bgcolor=#RRGGBB | style="background-color:#C0C0C0;" | style="background:#C0C0C0;" |
RGB - U/l | #RRGGBB | #rrggbb | |
RGB - 3/6 | #RGB | #RRGGBB |
For now it's all, but I think I had something more :) And am I right, that mixing bgcolor and background/background-color in one article could cause some problems with some browser? I read about it in one talk page. And which is the place (Wikipedia, Internet) where I could get the correct sintax?
For the tables, I think the Help:Tables could be expanded (in code size). These are the changes (never mind the reference, it is unrelated). And the tool warned for the deprecated HTML elements. -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 15:06, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
15:59, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
bgcolor=
and compatibility. If you find that bgcolor=
is still mentioned in help pages, please list them here and we'll fix them up. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:48, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
bgcolor=
attribute (six weeks ago). What's still wrong with it? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:12, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
bgcolor=
attribute from
Help:Table. Is any of the other deprecated markup actually causing problems? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
15:15, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
bgcolor=
attribute on mobile devices, this is mainly because that attribute was never a formal part of the HTML spec except when used in the <body>
tag, so it is good practice to hunt down and fix such markup.align=
on a <table>
, <tr>
or <td>
; valign=
on a <td>
; and width=
on a <th>
. In particular, the border=
attribute is still valid on the <table>
tag and is not deprecated. Some of the changes made in that edit to
User:Edgars2007/tables was completely unnecessary, such as changing underscores to spaces in the left-hand side of piped links, changing the case of hex colour values, and adding spaces in section headings. Trivial changes like those make it difficult to spot the real changes. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
16:25, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
align=
on <table>
, <tr>
or <td>
under "11.2 Non-conforming features": "Elements in the following list are entirely obsolete, and must not be used by authors". border=
on <table>
is not showing as obsolete or deprecated, but the W3C validator gives a warning that "The border attribute on the table element is presentational markup". --
Gadget850
talk
17:02, 23 July 2014 (UTC)Should the CSS-hidden navbar be removed from the base Stub (1.8 million pages) and WikiProject banner (5.5 million pages) templates? -- Netoholic @ 23:44, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
There is a very simple way to bypass the MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist and insert any blacklisted link, and this was exploited recently. Where to report this bug for urgent attention? The related talk pages don't seem active, and, though the exploit is simple, I hesitate to post it in open. Any advice? Materialscientist ( talk) 05:10, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure where to post this, but this seems a good fit. A 2013 (!) edit to Template:Current Kenyan MPs updated the template, but also changed something so that the information will not display. See my post on the talk page for a diff. This needs fixing. -- Auric talk 13:45, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
I mostly edit from an iPad. So, a while back they switched in the mobile site by default. As it does not support admin tools I opted to go back to the desktop version. For some reason in the last 48 hours I keep getting sent to the mobile version at the start of each new session, even though I'm still logged in from before. I've searched my preferences and can't find anything in there to deal with this. Is there a way to permanently disable the mobile site?
Also, I though maybe I'd try asking the devs over at the technical forum on meta and it seems SUL is not working over there. I navigated there from here and when I got there I was not logged in and for some reason it is not accepting the password I use here. I may have had a separate password over there in the pre-SUL days but I certainly don't remember what it was now. Beeblebrox ( talk) 21:05, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
@ Beeblebrox: For the questions about the mobile web interface, Maryana is your woman. For the SUL stuff, Special:CentralAuth/Beeblebrox says that Beeblebrox on Meta is attached to your global account, so I can't explain the issues you're having crossing wikis. Try totally clearing your browser cache and cookies, and if the problem still persists then, file a bug on Bugzilla with as much information as possible. -- Dan Garry, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 17:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I have just repaired a broken-link footnote and now see a small padlock symbol beside the footnote in the "References" section of the article. None of the other footnotes show this symbol. Does this affect the footnote in any way? How can I ensure the symbol does not appear when I next mend a broken-link footnote? What does the padlock symbol mean anyway? You can see the padlock at footnote #171, "Another wave of bombings hit Iraq", in Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. -- P123ct1 ( talk) 09:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
|url=
parameter, but in |archiveurl=
instead,
like this. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:51, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
[//www.example.com Example web page]
or {{cite web |url=//www.example.com |title=Example web page }}
, and this is known as a protocol-relative URL. This does not work for bare URLs like
http://www.example.com{{
wayback}}
template uses the https: form internally, so you always get the little padlock when you use that template. It should be possible to alter it to be protocol-relative, and I see from the template's talk page that
a discussion was raised about six months ago on this matter, but which doesn't seem to have been resolved. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:47, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Some questions about the navigation links that normally appear right-justified at the top line of the window (Username, Talk, Sandbox, Preferences, etc.):
addPortletLink()
statements to one's own "common.js" file still the recommended way of customizing these links, or has this been deprecated in favor of some other method?addPortletLink()
; using Google I was able to locate only
this brief discussion. Help?Thanks, — Jaydiem ( talk) 19:48, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
mw.util.addPortletLink()
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:10, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
As noted above, "If you use references on a page, you will soon always see them at the bottom of the page, even if you forget to add the <references />
tag (or a template)."
This has been deployed and has a few issues:
</ref>
no longer generates the missing reference list error, it now mangles the following rendered markup.
T69845More discussion at Help talk:Footnotes#Missing reference markup will no longer show an error. -- Gadget850 talk 11:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Can the auto system be upgraded to add a References section header, and keep the references section at the bottom? We are now getting talk pages, with no separation between one post and the ref-list, and another post is then added beneath it e.g. Talk:Soka Gakkai where it appears that the references relate to the post above them, although they don't.
The current arrangement means that, althiough the list appears, someone has to go around and manually add the ==References== section header, which is also one of the most common misspellings (I have corrected "Refrences" at least once in 140 of the last 142 weeks, plus the corrections to "Refferences" "Referrences" and "Referneces") - Arjayay ( talk) 13:37, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Adding this feature caused explosion on pages with missing references section. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 18:02, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Dear technical experts: When I first joined Wikipedia I remember that there was a bot that went around checking and tagging pages for copyright violations. I haven't seen any pages so tagged for some time, and of course the ones it tagged have either been deleted or had tags removed. Can someone tell me the name of this bot and if it's still around? It appeared to be very useful. — Anne Delong ( talk) 05:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I regularly use my Android mobile phone to look for changes on my (ridiculously large) watchlist: we're a two-person one-computer household. I'm using Beta but not "experimental". I have set my watchlist to "Hide bot edits from the watchlist", in my preferences. This works fine on the desktop, but seems to be ignored on the mobile: every bot edit is still listed.
Three other annoying factors about the mobile watchlist:
Like many people, I have DGG's talkpage watchlisted. He currently gets a massive number of separate messages from HasteurBot every morning. As a result, I cannot see on my mobile watchlist any changes made to User talk pages between the last time I looked and about 2am UK time: the day's bundle of HasteurBot messages shifts anything earlier into invisibility.
Is there any chance of any of the 5 contributing factors being fixed?
I get the feeling that mobile users are considered to be the great unwashed, encouraged to upload photos but not expected to be serious editors. More and more people expect to be able to use their phone for a wide range of activities, and aren't always sitting at a desktop. Please can someone offer some help in this area of mobile watchlists? Thanks in advance! Pam D 07:19, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I would like to transclude Tech News weekly summaries on my user page: {{m:Tech/News/Latest}}. Is this possible? Wbm1058 ( talk) 14:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
{{#lst:}}
for the
Citation Style 1 error help pages to transclude the help section to the tracking category. I have used it a few other places. --
Gadget850
talk
02:15, 24 July 2014 (UTC)... does not seem to be working properly (it's been a while since I was going through the AFDs, back in March it was still fine). I found that a similar problem has been discussed back in 2012 already, then fixed. But there may be another reason now. Help kindly requested. -- Tone 20:45, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
With the deployment of 1.24wmf13, a page with <ref>
tags but no the reference list markup ({{
reflist}} or <
references>
) no longer generates an error. Instead, the reference list automatically shows at the bottom of the page.
The automatically generated reference list (AGRL) has issues: it is always at the very bottom of the page, has no heading and can be displayed oddly depending on the markup before it ( T70293).
1.24wmf14 will be deployed later today. It adds a tracking category so we can locate and fix AGRL issues. The category is set through MediaWiki:Cite error refs without references category and I have set it to Category:Pages with an automatically generated reference list. I have added namespace detection so that user and talk pages are not categorized per previous consensus. The AGRL will still show on user and talk pages, it just won't show in the tracking category.
-- Gadget850 talk 17:34, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
It's pretty easy to get the Help:job queue size in number of items, does anyone have any intuition about the rate jobs are processed from it? I had a request for a null bot job that I don't think should be required, the JQ is about 80K entries right now, but I don't have an intuitive sense of whether that represents a second, a minute, an hour, a day or a week in terms of latency. -- j⚛e decker talk 18:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
copied from ANI Compare these two diffs, both which are doing mass replacements. (Or there is a very unsubtle sock)
This appears to be a known issue, but this appears to have been "resolved" quite some time go https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QINU_fix
Any way to escalate this to someone? If this isn't socking (which based on the bug report seems likely) then this is probably happening all over the wiki currently. Gaijin42 ( talk) 19:28, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
The toolbar under the edit window used for insertion of special characters has disappeared. I have checked Preferences->Gadgets->Editing to make sure that CharInsert box is ticked, which it is. How can I recover the toolbar? Brianboulton ( talk) 20:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
A user is asking at User talk:Taylordw#Question for administrator whether the email throttle limiting the number of emails sent in 24 hours can be bypassed for a particular purpose. He has a reason for wanting to use email rather than a mass message to talk pages. My question here is, is that technically possible? It is not one of the standard user-right groups in WP:User rights. JohnCD ( talk) 21:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello! I keep a link to the User Analysis Tool on my userpage, and I was checking it today when I found that neither the pie chart of edits by namespace nor the bar graph of edits by month are showing. Is this happening for anyone else, and if so is there a way to correct it? Howicus (Did I mess up?) 22:15, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
If a message is left on a general Talk page or Help desk for a particular user in this form, @ Username:, is the user automatically alerted that they have a message? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 08:34, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
{{
replyto}}
) gets added in the same post that your signature was added and (b) at
Preferences →
Notifications they have "Mention" enabled (for either Web or Email); if it's enabled for web only, they also need to have "⧼echo-pref-new-message-indicator⧽" (on the same page) enabled. More at
WP:ECHO. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:23, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I am not at all sure this is the right place for this query. I cannot use all the functions in some pdf files (e.g. in footnotes) on my new laptop, e.g. Search and Go to page number. Do I need to update some software in my laptop, and if so, how, please? For technical questions that are not directly related to Wikipedia, is there a forum on Wikipedia that can deal with them? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 09:47, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I want to find a long post I made, either on the main Help Desk or on a Wikipedia article Talk page, but can only remember the month I made it (April this year) and the content, not where I posted it. I have tried to locate it but without success. Is there some way I can do a global search using key phrases from my post and my username? Even looking at the list of topics for each month in the main Help Desk archives is not going to help, as I cannot remember exactly what topic I was posting under. Can I do a global search of all the posts I have made since the beginning of the year? The User Contributions list will not help either because I can't use key phrases to search it. Does Wikipedia have a brilliant data-mining tool that I don't know about? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 13:36, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
84.106.11.117 ( talk) 13:41, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi all! I don't know anything about CSS. Could someone write a CSS code for me to change the background color of wiki to black and font color to green please? I'll put this code onto my preference section within my account so that I can view wiki in black color with green words. Thank you~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saucelord ( talk • contribs) 19:32, 25 July 2014
Wow, it works! Thank you, Writ Keeper! That is really what I exactly needs! I am happy~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saucelord ( talk • contribs) 01:43, 26 July 2014
Is there, or can there be a script that would change selected/detected ALL CAPS as in this diff ? I assume maybe AWB has a setting for this but, I'm hoping for a .js script or something or even a lab tool. Thanx, Mlpearc ( open channel) 18:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
"MAJESTY KING ZWELITHINI".toLowerCase()
If you want title case, that will be a little bit more code. You can try
User:V111P/js/Templates/Textarea1.js to see if you need a script like that one, it is an example script that replaces all spaces with underscores in the text you selected in the textarea (when editing the wiki source code). You run it by pressing its button in the toolbar. --
V111P (
talk)
05:29, 27 July 2014 (UTC)If someone comes to my talk page in all caps I just slap a LOWER CASE SPAN AROUND THE SHOUTING(<span style="text-transform:lowercase;">). I wonder if there is a template for that? Chillum 18:26, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Sometime during the last few months; and I hope it's visible to most reading this and is not just on my end; I've noticed that when signing my sig it has started to leave a rather annoying leading inter-line space before the last line of text I write. This has never been an issue before and I don't think this has anything to do with my browser (Firefox), skin (Vector), or preferences as they have not changed in years. What has changed fairly recently, I notice, is the typography the entire site uses, and I think what's behind the issue is the superscripted ™ after my 'ligature' pushing the last line of text down. Okay okay I know how pretentious my sig looks with a bogus 'trademark' symbol that links to my talk page.. but if it's all the same I've been using this crazy sig for many years and have grown accustomed to it so I'd rather not alter it nor change my default skin. So wondering if there's any workaround where I can avoid this unsightly line gap but still retain the superscripted ™? If that is even the issue, and assuming the site-wide typography change is permanent.. -- œ ™ 20:42, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
<font>
tag is deprecated. You should swithc to CSS. The following should work (it also reduces the font size): <span style="font-size:1.6em;line-height:.8em;">œ</span>
, which results in œ. -- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
21:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
<font>
tag still works, and causes the overall sig code to be shorter/simpler, then why not still use it? I'm guessing it's because not all browsers support it? --
œ
™
00:31, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
08:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
line-height
property controls the line height (and thus the "gaps"), and it is used here (<font>
doesn't allow that) clearly with the aim of getting rid of them. However, I have no idea how Edokter arrived at the value of 0.8
em for it, perhaps it's just an educated guess :)
Matma Rex
talk
19:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
20:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)I have an idea: Let's create a new template "fbas" which would produce a flagicon & wikilink to a national football association article, instead of this full code:
{{flagicon|GER}} [[German Football Association|Germany]]
– code used in many many articles
{{fbas|GER}}
– my idea
Germany – result of both
But how to do it? Maiō T. ( talk) 15:08, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
{{
fb|GER}}
→ {{
fb}}
- this would avoid creation of a new template. Incidentally, have
WT:FOOTY been informed? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:12, 26 July 2014 (UTC) Done Copied to WT:FOOTY.
Maiō T. (
talk)
17:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi!
I would like your input on this: MediaWiki talk:Common.js#Global gadget for LinkFA. Helder.wiki 16:14, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
The {{
Discretionary sanctions}} template has a few issues. The documentation says user can just add the code and the style into the template, but that does not work. For it to work properly, we must use "topic=" and "style=". For example:
{{Discretionary sanctions|pa|long}}, as suggested by
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contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them, which has been
designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
{{Discretionary sanctions|topic=pa|style=long}}
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contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them, which has been
designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
My template-fu is too weak to figure this out in any timely fashion. Are any template experts able to fix this? Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{ re}} 16:58, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
{{{topic|}}}
{{{t|}}}
and {{{1|}}}
), every time one of them is used, the others must be used as well. There were four uses each of {{{topic|}}}
and {{{t|}}}
but only one {{{1|}}}
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:26, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
{{Discretionary sanctions|pa|brief}}
. Try adjusting that to match the text preceding your words "as suggested by". --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello there, I'm having a trouble. Why I can't check my contributions through this from android?? And yes I'm a IP user. Yes, I'm a proud IP, I'm - 101.221.128.220 ( talk) 18:07, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Have a look at the history of Arijit Singh. The article is configured to automatically accept edits by auto-confirmed users. It was vandalized and then reverted by ClueBot NG, yet the bot's edit is still shown to be "pending review." Anyone know what's going on? -- Ixfd64 ( talk) 15:56, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
I wasn't sure where else to post this. I found a source for the second footnote here, but apparently, I can't insert reference formatting inside reference formatting. What would be the best way around this? Airplaneman ✈ 22:15, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
OK. I have a situation on the Cree language page where the Infobox for that page has the wrong information. One of the Infobox lines is for ISO-639-3, where it lists cre – inclusive code, then goes on to list 9 dialects. Only problem is that cre covers 6 of those dialects, and the other 3, though part of the Cree language, are not part of the cre ISO 639 macrolanguage code. However, the template won't allow me to list 4 ISO-639-3 codes, with the fourth one being the cre, and then having the remaining 6 displayed. If I want to have such a custom display, how would I go about doing it without recreating the template from scratch? Is there a way I can enter commands to custom edit that template? I had originally asked this question at WP:HD on July 24, and it was recommended that I pose the question here. CJLippert ( talk) 23:10, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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@ Hedonil: The new search history tool at https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/blame/?style=new is very useful, but what does starting date and ending date mean? For example, is the starting date the date you want to move forward from or back from? The tool can be used without filling in those boxes, but it would be good to know what they mean. -- P123ct1 ( talk) 18:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, could someone please point me in the right direction for some documentation or other help about how to integrate an application into wikipedia? I'd like to make it available to other editors at WP:PLANTS, for performing moderately complex text reformatting. It exists as html with a separate javascript file (and as an earlier java applet). It has a text input area where the person would paste a largish chunk of text, a "convert" button to click, and a text output area from which they would copy the resulting wikipedia encoding. As a simple experiment, I've made User:Sminthopsis84/TPLConvert.js, just trying to display some text with a date; have imported that into User:Sminthopsis84/common.js, and thought that I could execute the javascript function from another page, as in User:Sminthopsis84/TPLConvert. That gives nothing. I've been reading Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Customizing_Wikipedia/Easier_Editing_with_JavaScript, but can't find an answer. Any help would be much appreciated. Sminthopsis84 ( talk) 14:52, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi Everyone,
I am a GSOC student working with Parsoid Team to build a Parsoid based linter ( Linttrap). Lintrap will detect broken wikitext found on the wiki pages and will also collect stats about certain wikitext usage patterns.
Currently, for this demo, Lintrap can detect 4 types of broken wikitext, But, other kinds of issues could be detected in the coming weeks and months :
* Fostered Wikitext : Eg1 * Missing End Tag : Eg2 * Missing Start Tag : Eg3 * Stripped Tags : Eg4
Linttrap also collect information about transclusion usages where multiple templates are used to construct a DOM structure Example. Here's our stats page.
Once a page is parsed, Lintrap uses parsoid based logger facility to log them to a web service. We call it Lintbridge. Currently Lintbridge is hosted on Wikimedia Labs and use mongodb to store all the issues. Lintbridge offers a REST api which can be used by bots and other applications to fix the broken wikitext. Linttrap uses this REST api to store issues into Lintbridge.
We have also built a HTML app on top of Lintbridge HTML Page. This is a basic app for now which is used to demonstrate linttrap abilities. But, It is quite useful as it is today. Feel free to browse over the issues.
* You can use the links in the table to filter the issues. * Click on issue type to filter issue by issue type. * You can filter issue by page too. * You can use Fix All to fix all issue for that page. * You can even use filters on the top bar to filter by Wiki and Type. * Each issue contain a info about wiki, page, revision on the left and the wikitext snippet on the right.
Just for the demo of this working prototype, we have collected issues by parsing 1000 picked from http://parsoid-tests.wikimedia.org/topfails. If you want to try the JSON API you can use the following routes.
GET /_api/issues : Show all issues (
http://lintbridge.wmflabs.org/_api/issues)
GET /_api/issues/type/issue-type : Filter by issue-type (
http://lintbridge.wmflabs.org/_api/issues/type/fostered)
GET /_api/enwiki/issues : Filter by enwiki (
http://lintbridge.wmflabs.org/_api/enwiki/issues)
POST /_api/add : Add a issue to the Lintbridge
If you think you can you use this info to fix wikitext, please let us know.
Inviting feedback, suggestion and feature requests.
Hardik95 ( talk) 18:30, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
The WHOIS links visible at the bottom of Special:Contributions for an IP address is a service running on the Toolserver. Is there a comparable service on WMFlabs? Nyttend ( talk) 12:24, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
I want to upload logos, but they must be in SVG format. Where can I find a free SVG converter online? I have searched for so many websites but all sucked except Vectormagic. However, they only give you two free trials and the words under the logo gets weird looks. Thanks, Nahnah4 | Any thoughts? Pen 'em down here! | No Editcountitis! 09:52, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
sodipodi:
all over the place, somebody's edited it in Inkscape). --
Redrose64 (
talk)
11:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Over the years I've repeatedly seen cases of an edit unintentionally deleting one or more previous recent edits. I think this has been brought up here several times in the past (here's one thread from 2009 [3]) but I don't remember seeing any clear explanation of why this is happening. Some could be down to editing an old version of the page as the 2009 thread suggests, but here are some recent ones that happened to me which I am pretty sure are not that: [4] [5] [6]. The last one in particular I am absolutely certain was not an old version edit. That is because on that one an edit conflict was flagged and the I made the edit through the edit conflict interface. The edit from ColinFine that got deleted was definitely not showing in the window and I definitely did not delete it. That one, however, might possibly be a diffferent problem as usually there is not edit conflict flag at all, the edit just takes, but on examining the diff later someone else's edit has been deleted.
Does anyone know if this has ever gone to Bugzilla? I can't find anything, but all the search strings I tried using came up with too many false hits to be able to sort through them all. Spinning Spark 12:52, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
See the "GeoGroupTemplate not working" section at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 127. I'm getting precisely the same results today as I was getting a week ago, although the URL got updated so that it's not seemingly relying on the toolserver now. Can someone explain what's happening? Para spoke of the tool hitting some sort of limit; maybe it's hit it? I don't know at all what that should look like, or what effect it would have. Nyttend backup ( talk) 13:41, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
On Turn It Up (Josh Thompson album), does anyone know why the second use of {{ albumchart}} is causing "Template:Album chart\chartnote" to randomly show up in a big red link? I don't see anything wrong in the coding. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 20:51, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
?action=purge
to the end of the URL. If a page has not been edited since the template was fixed, the old version may still be showing for some time.
2Flows (
talk)
22:07, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Hi folks.
Just a heads up, as of tommorow entity references (&, >,   etc) are going to be considered equal to the characters they represent when comparing string with #ifeq or #switch. For example
{{#ifeq:&|&|equal|not-equal}}
Previously would return not-equal, will soon return equal. In particular this means that on pages with special characters in the title (such as *, ', ", =, ;), the comparision has changed. Thus on a page named *foo:
{{#ifeq:*foo|{{PAGENAME}}|on page|not on page}}
previously returned not on page, but will soon return on page. Using {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME:*foo}}|{{PAGENAME}}|on page|not on page}}
will continue to work both before and after the change.
For more information see http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2014-June/000796.html . Changes are already visible on testwiki:. Thanks. Bawolff ( talk) 20:59, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
I had been reading a lot of Help Desk archives questions that involved moving an article and so when I clicked on one article mentioned in a question, I naturally found myself looking where the "move" tab should be. I have been autoconfirmed for many years and have moved many articles, and a "Move" tab still appears in the skin I use on most articles. Unless it was very slow to come up, I never saw any kind of lock on Samoa and yet I saw no Move tab. I'm sure I'm asking in the wrong place.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
So based on the above, how about, on move-protected pages, include the move option in the menu, but have it grayed out (like Windows and Mac do) with the message "this page is protected against moves" popping up when you mouseover? Then people would at least know why they can't do it. Ego White Tray ( talk) 01:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
John Reaves ( talk · contribs · logs) just applied pending changes protection on The Avengers (2012 film). Five minutes later I semi-protected it because when I checked the protection log there was nothing to indicate that he had already done so. See here where the last entry before mine was from 2013. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 22:59, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
When ever I start to edit Stig Severinsen#AIDA Freediving World Records then click 'Show preview,' the preview doesn't show the text in the form of a table. The first time I clicked 'Edit' at the top of that section, I made this edit to the edit box then clicked 'Show preview' and it showed text that was not in table format and I guessed that it was because of a Wikipedia source code glitch and not because of the change I made to the edit box before clicking it so I clicked 'Save page' then to see if that was the case, I clicked 'Edit' at the top of that section after I saw that the article itself still had table format in that section then without making any change to the edit box, clicked 'Show preview' and the preview still didn't show table format then I left the page without clicking 'Save page.' Table format does show in the preview if I click 'Edit' at the top of the whole article. Blackbombchu ( talk) 01:13, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
...did clicking on links in diffs actually count as a link? And can I turn it off? Thanks, Ansh 666 06:20, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
I noticed today that there is a new usergroup 'users' as well as the historical 'Users' (see the bottom of Special:ListGroupRights) which is automatically assigned to accounts. I'm guessing this was a typo by a dev, does this need to go to bugzilla? Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 09:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
In tables, wiki syntax/markup offers...
| ... || ... || ... || (etc)
...as an alternative to...
| ... | ... | ... | (etc)
...but, so far as I'm aware, it doesn't offer something like...
| ... || ... || ... -| | ... || ... || ... -| | ... || ... || ... -| | (etc)
...as an alternative to...
| ... || ... || ... |- | ... || ... || ... |- | ... || ... || ... |- | (etc)
What can work (at least, at present) is...
| ... || ... || ... </tr> | ... || ... || ... </tr> | ... || ... || ... </tr> | (etc)
...i.e. using the HTML "end table row" tag </tr>. I understand, however, that this is improper as it mixes wiki and HTML markup. So, may there be a wiki-style alternative, please? Sardanaphalus ( talk) 17:13, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
|-
doesn't mean "end row", it means "begin row", that is, it's equivalent to <tr>
not </tr>
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:25, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
<tr>
tag (for which the wiki markup is |-
at the start of a new line) is mandatory, but the </tr>
tag (for which there is no wiki markup) is optional (it's always been optional in HTML, but not in XHTML, which has no optional tags). --
Redrose64 (
talk)
08:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
-|
" or something else)...?
Sardanaphalus (
talk)
21:11, 24 June 2014 (UTC)</tr>
has been around long before my becoming aware of it – in fact, it's near-certain I came across it here. Mixing markup may be a bad idea, but, in the long-term, isn't the idea that something is "what we've got and what we have to live with" a worse one...?
Sardanaphalus (
talk)
00:07, 24 June 2014 (UTC)</tr>
without the next tag being either <tr>
or </table>
relies on browser quirks: assuming that we're not dealing with XHTML (see my post of 08:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC) above), most browsers, on encountering the sequence <table>
<th>
, for which the wiki markup is {|
!
<table>
<td>
, for which the wiki markup is {|
|
<tr>
(i.e. a |-
) in between. Similarly, if they encounter the sequence </tr>
<th>
or </tr>
<td>
, they will also assume that there should be a <tr>
in between. Since the <tr>
tag at the start of a table row is documented as being mandatory, not all browsers will assume that it should be present if it has been omitted, and so you mustn't rely on such behaviour. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
08:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
<tr>
automatically. So this is valid wiki markup resulting in valid HTML. -- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
11:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
23:00, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
<tr>
- is mandatory; its end tag - </tr>
- is optional. There is no need to mark the end of the row, because a row end is implied - either by the start of the next row, or by the end of the table. Wiki markup was devised on the same lines: the row start marker is |-
and that is mandatory; the table end marker |}
is also mandatory. Since omission of either of those is not an option, there is no point in providing a </tr>
equivalent. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:39, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
{| | ... || ... || ... || (etc) |- | ... || ... || ... || (etc) |- | ... || ... || ... || (etc) (etc) |} |
{| | ... || ... || ... || (etc) -| | ... || ... || ... || (etc) -| | ... || ... || ... || (etc) [ -| ]* (etc) |} * May/may not be necessary. |
Any further thoughts / advice re
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 128#Missing piece of wiki table syntax/markup?...? (Maybe I should enquire at mediawiki.org...?)
I imagine you might have quite a backlog – you seem to dispense advice and information everywhere! Very valuable. Hope you don't find it too exhausting.
Regards,
Sardanaphalus (
talk)
09:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
<tr>
tag has always been mandatory; the </tr>
tag has always been optional, except in XHTML 1.0 where it is mandatory (because there are no optional tags in XHTML). --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Sanitizer.php
recently. It looks like it is Sanitizer that closes these tags, not HTML Tidy.
Gadget850
talk
00:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)Maybe Gwicke (which is working in the mw:Parsoid) may provide some comments on this topic? Helder.wiki 00:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Instead of getting the image page, i get a metroized full-screen popup. You seem to detect my browser (IE11) wrongly and serve me the mobile version. My user agent is:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko
� ( talk) 08:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Is it possible to allow {{ CURRENTYEAR}} and similar parser functions to be included in redirect targets?
For example:
#REDIRECT [[Deaths in {{#time:Y}}]]
produces "1. REDIRECT
Deaths in 2014", with the one exactly as you see it, create a link, but it does not redirect.
Also:
#REDIRECT
[[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/{{CURRENTYEAR}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]]
does not redirect to todays RfD page but simply prints the text.
Has a bug report been opened on this already? Ego White Tray ( talk) 05:05, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Very recently, most links and pics started showing a mouseover hoverbox in Firefox, when they did not before. I have no problem with this, the problem I have is with the huge, unwieldy, yellow box around the text. I'm reasonably sure this is something defined in Wikipedia, as it doesn't happen with most other sites, and I haven't updated or changed Firefox recently. Does anyone know of a way to reduce the box display size to something...smaller??
The Steve 00:50, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
On my iPad, when I click on a location's coordinates such as in the infobox on Musée des Beaux-Arts de Tours, and then the Google Maps link in GeoHack's "View this location..." part, it takes me to the right location in the browser-based version of Google Maps. So far, so good. However, in the browser version of Google Maps, when I then click on the link to the Google Maps app, it can't seem to handle the prefix "loc: ". I'm sure it used to work. Is this a problem with Google Maps, or with GeoHack, or something else?-- A bit iffy ( talk) 11:42, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone know if it's possible to add items to existing groups in the CharInsert toolbar, or even add new groups? I would assume that there might be hooks allowing users to add something to their common.js or common.css. Any pointers or examples would be appreciated.- Mr X 18:49, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
09:36, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Please can someone assist with the styling issue described here? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
There is something weird going on with the references on the Heisenbug page. I think they're supposed to display in multiple columns, but I'm using Firefox and they display in just one single narrow column with a huge swath of blank space on the right. 78.0.236.159 ( talk) 00:53, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
09:41, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
{{
Quote box}}
out of ref 17; lose the two
{{-}}
which are also in ref. 17; make the refs consistent - either use
Citation Style 1 templates for all, or templates for none; fix the {{DEFAULTSORT:}}
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)A few minutes ago my watchlist said that changes newer than 45 seconds may not appear due to database lag. Is this normal or is it something to be concerned about? Retartist ( talk) 01:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Retartist ( talk) 01:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Me again, It seems that The dashboard is broken for me. See: webpagescreenshot. Using Chrome Version 35.0.1916.153 m, Win 8.1 on surface pro 2. Retartist ( talk) 02:01, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
09:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
09:52, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
This is purely a technical question and has nothing to do with the merits of my action or subsequent actions by another administrator.
I deleted Jet Naked Airlines. I salted it after deleting it. Although I can find a record in my log of my action, it appears that it is no longer salted. Did the temporary restore by an administrator automatically unsalt it? Although I can't seem to find the page protect log for the article, if I click on protect page, it shows at the bottom that I salted it and it doesn't show that it was unprotected. At this point I'm not sure whether it is or isn't still protected. I looked at this list, but I don't see any way to search the list for a particular title (I don't even understand how the list is organized or how often it's updated). Thanks for any help.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 11:40, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi!
I would like to ask any user which have personal scripts to check if they continue to work on
https://test2.wikipedia.org (now that
gerrit:139569 is merged). If not, please report any issues you find (or
fix them!), so that these scripts continue to work smoothly even after we fix
bugzilla:33837 (at some point in the [near] future). If you can also test gadgets in that wiki, even better.
Helder.wiki
23:38, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
/([^'"<>$0-9A-Za-z_\/])(skin|stylepath|wgUrlProtocols|wgArticlePath|...)\b/g
$1mw.config.get('$2')
We need documentation of this change, in human-readable prose, please. Right now, I can't tell whether my .js scripts need to be changed based on the esoteric discussion here and on the bugzilla page.
As a concrete example, does Wikipedia:AutoEd/core.js need to be changed? It appears to use "wg" variables, but I can't tell from the bugzilla discussion whether they qualify. If they do, AutoEd code will need to be changed. Many people use this tool, I believe. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 05:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
addPortletLink
).
Helder.wiki
14:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt.js uses global variables. -- WOSlinker ( talk) 22:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I submitted a few edit requests for scripts in the MediaWiki namespace. Helder.wiki 23:50, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
(Help Desk Suggestion to ask here) As far as I can tell, in any case where there is a "Lists of" category like Category:Lists of people by city in the United States that all articles in that category should have sort criteria for the entry in that category. So that List_of_people_from_Hillsboro,_Oregon would have [[Category:Lists of people by city in the United States|Hillsboro, Oregon]] rather than [[Category:Lists of people by city in the United States]]. (Rarely would this be done with a default sort) Would there be a tool that would help with making sure that this is true? For example, would this be appropriate for Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia? Naraht ( talk) 21:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone know why AJ Leitch-Smith is reporting a template transclusion error on Template:Yeovil Town F.C. squad using this tool here? Thanks, JMHamo ( talk) 22:31, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
I am unable to use the new "insource" search feature described at this mediawiki page to search using regular expressions. This feature was supposed to be enabled in CirrusSearch, the new beta search feature, on June 26.
I have enabled the new search in my Beta Preferences. I try to search for the example on the page linked above — insource:/foo/
— but I get only a red error message: "An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later."
It has not been a temporary problem, at least for me. I have gotten this same error message when trying to search for any regular expression using the syntax above. I have tried this search a few times a day for the past four days. I have gotten this error message every time.
Is it working for anyone? What is the trick to making it work? – Jonesey95 ( talk) 04:32, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Another point: "Recategorizing articles when templates are changed is taking about 90 days currently." Wow! You mean, like, if a template that contains a category changes then pages that have the category take months to get reindexed by Cirrus? That's horrible. I knew it was slow and I've always wanted to add monitoring to it but its never floated to the top of the list. I've bumped it up bugzilla:67419. NEverett (WMF) ( talk) 15:42, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
and {{
cite journal}}
, was
updated on 30 March. The changes included the creation of a new citation error category, ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:CS1 errors: authorlink. Between 30 March and 28 June, a few hundred articles trickled into that category as articles were processed (by a back-end null edit or something; the job queue?). I fixed them every day or two as they popped up in the category. The most recent one to appear was
corrected on 28 June, shortly after it appeared in the category. As you can see in the date of the previous edit before my edit, some sort of reindexing or job queue put the article in the category, not an erroneous edit by an editor.&titles=
is the key template, page or cat primarily handling some element or status that has become "other than reflecting the current state" (e.g. out-of-date). Sometimes more than one target needs to be hit in order for a cascade-effect refresh to occur. Hope that helps. --
George Orwell III (
talk)
02:07, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
"error code="mustbeposted" info="The purge module requires a POST request" xml:space="preserve"".
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<api>
<purge>
<page ns="10" title="Template:Cite web" purged="" linkupdate="" />
</purge>
<normalized>
<n from="Template:Cite_web" to="Template:Cite web" />
</normalized>
</api>
purged="" linkupdate=""
reflecting both the purge & the forced recursivelinkupdate took place. Please note - as with most if not all API commands you must use SSL (i.e. https:// ), otherwise you'll get the GET/POST clap-trap (I just assumed everybody logged in nowadays uses the secure server - my bad).The thing about narrowing down the actual target in short equates to URLs using encoding or titles using lowercase like...
The final note I've just discovered - this command works best when the target has no protection. If a target title is protected, a null edit is needed to get the re-cache ball rolling regardless of the API command being applied or not (perfect example, Template:! was just made redundant because {{!}}
is now a formal magic word. I can refresh it with the API a hundred times but because it is protected, 'what links here' remains frozen until its unprotected or null-edited). --
George Orwell III (
talk)
21:59, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
As of very recently, when you edit any template at the top there's a link provided to "Manage template documentation". This appears to have been made as a MedaWiki extension for the visual editor's " TemplateData" (see Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/21 May 2014), and someone has enabled that MW extension here without any announcement I can find. I was wondering if this was error; whether it was supposed to be just enabled for VE – certainly it's not clear what this is useful for, in general, sitewide, and not segregated to only appear for VE. It also is confusing in that I immediately thought, before exploring what it was (and I bet others would assume so too), that it was related to template documentation which it's not. This was noted at T65389 (where the creator of the extension basically said "nothing to be done about that").-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 02:50, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
<tempatedata>...</tempatedata>
tags in <noinclude>...</noinclude>
tags, and ensure that there is no extra whitespace between the end of the template and the start of the TemplateData. A little ugly, but at least we would have our TemplateData without altering the template output. One possible pitfall for this approach: some templates have an opening <noinclude>
tag before the documentation, but no corresponding </noinclude>
tag at the end. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
11:51, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Can someone remove that annoying Jared Preston ( talk) 22:40, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
button? It's an eyesore and really not helpful. Have it as an opt-in preference for someone who may require it.
button.tdg-editscreen-main-button {
display: none;
}
On a related point, I asked about transcluding TemplateData, and it appears that TemplateData can be stored in whatever page you want and transcluded, but it only accepts one TemplateData block per template. (Like parameters in infoboxes, if you have multiples, the only one (the last?) gets used.) So if you put some in the doc subpage and some in the template page, you'll only see half of it.
I don't know if it would work if the TemplateData were wrapped in noinclude tags. (Probably yes?) That will be my next question. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 19:42, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
<noinclude>...</noinclude>
, if it does not already exist. Oh, and if it can't figure it out: ask the user that is making the edit. Of course, the user making the edit should be permitted (e.g. a checkbox) to override the location selected by the script. These should be a normal part of implementing this type of feature. There is a normal/preferred method of doing things, but it is the script's responsibility to determine the method that is already in use, if there is one, and not change the method that is in use without explicit instructions to do so by the user after it has informed the user that this is a change from the current method of documentation.{{
documentation}}
to the template if that doesn't exist.
So apparently there was further discussion, and today's story is: You can't transclude TemplateData. That problem is now T69677. Mr. Stradivarius, you can wrap the TemplateData in noinclude tags: the response I received was, quote, "that’s what you’re meant to do".
The complete list of bugs (open and closed) mentions a couple of ideas discussed here, but not explicitly the idea of creating subpages. Given the variety of subpage names used at a few wikis, do you all think that would be a good idea? (I don't think that we have found any with no subpages, correct?) Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 17:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
The complete list of bugs (open and closed) mentions a couple of ideas discussed here, but not explicitly the idea of creating subpages. Given the variety of subpage names used at a few wikis, do you all think that would be a good idea? (I don't think that we have found any with no subpages, correct?) Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 17:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
#tag:
is an exceptional hack that probably shouldn't ever have been enabled given the number of huge issues it's caused, and the massive reduction in engagement on getting improvements made to the software (because people can just scratch their own itch with a hack).
Jdforrester (WMF) (
talk)
00:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
{ a: 'foo', }
.
Matma Rex
talk
19:07, 13 July 2014 (UTC)<templatedata>...</templatedata>
tags and the JSON code using a Lua module, and then preprocessing it with
frame:preprocess? That's what we're doing at
Module:WikiProjectBanner to save WikiProject editors from having to write their own TemplateData. (Or at least, that's what we will do when we finally get round to finishing the module.) —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
05:00, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
{{#tag:templatedata|Your templates here}}
with <templatedata>Your templates here</templatedata>
which can easily be accomplished with a simple regex replacement using AWB. It would be easy to change even if the run had to check the entirety of the template namespace (database scan, then actual changes made on the very few that will actually use this method). This assumes that the bug/issue that prevents using templates inside <templatedata>...</templatedata>
actually gets fixed. Even if that issue was not fixed and no other way was determined to allow the transclusion of templates effectively within <templatedata>...</templatedata>
tags then it would be a simple matter of using that AWB run to {{#subst:}} the templates – a change that could be reverted once transclusions did work. On the other hand, there is no way for us to know in the future if the deployed version of TemplateData actually fixes this issue due to
your refusal to use version numbers for the TemplateData code which results in no method to distinguish between the versions of
mw:Extension:TemplateData released with the MediaWiki software.<templatedata>...</templatedata>
tags. However, that is currently not the case. It is not clear when, or even if, it will be the case. If you would explain why you think using {{#tag:}} might break in the near future, then perhaps we could better evaluate if using it should be abandoned. —
Makyen (
talk)
09:50, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
<templatedata>...</templatedata>
tags. It would be necessary to consider what to do about a variety of issues, for example: Is the display on the page merged when the <templatedata>...</templatedata>
blocks are immediately consecutive, or just the API JSON; how to handle duplicate parameter names defined in multiple blocks (merge various attributes with last definition which includes a particular attribute superseding any prior?, last entry completely supersedes?; a way to indicate that a parameter is not used even if defined in one or more blocks; etc.<templatedata>...</templatedata>
blocks should be handled in some other way than silently using just the last <templatedata>...</templatedata>
block because that is contrary to user expectations. What a user would currently be expecting from multiple <templatedata>...</templatedata>
blocks, I am not sure. The presence of multiple <templatedata>...</templatedata>
blocks should probably either be used or generate an error.<templatedata>...</templatedata>
if and when <templatedata>...</templatedata>
has the capability to include transclutions within the block. —
Makyen (
talk)
14:40, 9 July 2014 (UTC)This is a continuation of the discussion above about generating TemplateData using Lua. Some Lua modules don't have their parameter names hard-coded into the module itself, but instead load them from a config file so that they can be easily configured to work on other wikis. A good example of this is Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration. For these modules, it makes sense to automate the generation of TemplateData from the config file; this saves users from having to type in config twice, and keeps the config page and the TemplateData synchronised.
Kephir and I are planning to take this a step further with Module:WikiProjectBanner. Rather than just having one config page for the module, each WikiProject will have its own config submodule containing various data necessary for the module. Initially, our plan was to get parameter information from the config submodule and use this to generate the TemplateData, the documentation page, and data for third-party tools such as Kephir's rater. However, if we aren't going to be able to generate TemplateData from Lua in the future, we will need to rethink.
How about this approach - instead of generating the TemplateData with Lua, we use the TemplateData as the config file. We load the TemplateData from Lua, check that the data structure is valid for whatever it is we want to do, and then make the parameter names specified in the TemplateData available to the user. This would keep our data synchronised, and it also wouldn't be liable to break when TemplateData moves to its own namespace.
While we haven't talked about using TemplateData for configuration yet, we did talk about it as a possible data format to use with third-party tools. That was back in June 2013, so a lot has undoubtedly changed since then, but at the time, Kephir
said that TemplateData would need to be able to handle grouping and type annotations — whether a parameter denotes a request, B-class checklist item, task force membership, more detailed information on allowed values than just "string", whether a parameter should be paired with another (like task force membership and importance, request notes)
. I'm not sure how much of this is possible in the current version of TemplateData, but we would need similar information to make TemplateData usable as a module config file. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
07:16, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
<templatedata>
tag. I just tested it and it seems to work as expected at this stage. There is a caveat, though: you have to null-edit the template itself for the TemplateData to be updated. By which I mean null-edit — purging or even purging with forcelinkupdate
do not work. —
Keφr
07:56, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
In response to a Teahouse question, I looked at an edit and tried to repeat it, but of course the table ended up under references anyway. I don't see any ref tags out of place, so something very strange must be going on.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:52, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
See User:Dank/trop1.js for a snippet. The Mediawiki function mw.util.$content.highlightText technically takes a single string as an argument, but within that string, it uses spaces to delimit the arguments that are passed to some other function (presumably) and highlights any of those arguments on any page (for the user only, it doesn't actually make changes to a page). It works great ... except that a space is a bad choice for an argument delimiter, since that makes it impossible to search for and highlight a two-word phrase. This has been reported to bugzilla ( here), and assigned a "low" priority, but for all I know, there might be a simple fix here, if the delimiter I'm talking about here could be changed to something else (tab would work, or an array of strings). - Dank ( push to talk) 12:39, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
It sounds like a product that haz been done in hit counters on web pages over and over again, with facebook statistics being curtailed, because they can name people, and geographical hits being the most interesting graphic. Why would I want to opt into an edit counter? Please reply on my talk page. 75.152.119.10 ( talk) 17:48, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
It's gone as of today. Is there something else we can use? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 02:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
FYI: The toolserver.org reference converter seems to be shut down
I just saw the following error when visiting both http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py and http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/view/Reflinks:
"Good bye Toolserver
As of July 1, the community run Toolserver was shut down. My tools weren't aligned with the Wikimedia Foundation's priorities, so they didn't make the transition to Labs."
In my opinion, this is a valuable tool that should be retained, not disbanded. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 02:55, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
// Add [[WP:Reflinks]] launcher in the toolbox on left
Checklinks has also gone. - X201 ( talk) 10:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
// Add [[WP:Reflinks]] launcher in the toolbox on left
addOnloadHook(function () {
addPortletLink(
"p-tb", // toolbox portlet
"http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py/" + wgPageName
+ "?client=script&citeweb=on&overwrite=&limit=20&lang=" + wgContentLanguage,
"Reflinks" // link label
)});
<ref>...</ref>
tags on the page and scrape each URL trying to obtain as much information as possible about the page. It will loose a lot of the "other" features of reflinks, but will essentially offer replacement "preformed" citations in the simplest form.(Copied from the AN thread): I don't know which employee who reputedly said [that 24TB was unreasonable], but that seems to be a gross simplification. I do remember discussing the topic with Dispenser about this, and I remember telling him that 24 TB is a significant chunk of the space available to Labs (our disk space is somewhat constrained and expensive to increase because it lives on a highly redundant array of commercial-grade disks and not on consumer devices), but also that he should discuss this with the Foundation to see if they could allocate the resources to support his tool.
I've also offered to help him analyze other methods of storage for his data (24TB does seem very inefficient for storing some 20 million external links – since it represents over a megabyte of data per link) but he has not offered further details of his architecture or engaged in discussion on how it could be adapted to Tool Labs.
Tool Labs remains open for anyone who has the desire to port/adapt/rewrite the tool. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 03:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
@ This, that and the other: The code is available and could easily be ported, but cannot be used on Labs as it is not under a free license. πr2 ( t • c) 20:26, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
"this user has stated on several occasions that they will not migrate their tools from the Toolserver to the new Wikimedia Labs infrastructure"
Why on Earth were we hosting tools which were (apparently) not open source, with the code available for anyone to fork? I hope that lesson has been learned.
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits
16:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I suppose you could say that the lesson was already anticipated and learned; but there's nothing we could do that would fix things retroactively. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 23:53, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
That said, any tool that has become a critical component of the volunteers workflow may be a reasonable candidate for integration into production (as an extension, perhaps, or part of core) and it might be a good idea to propose its rewrite/integration as an Engineering project. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 02:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I see above that checklinks was mentioned, but while this discussion is occurring, I'd also like to point out Dispenser's other tools like Dabsolver and Dabfix, which I've found useful for disambiguating links or expanding dab pages. They may not be as broadly useful, but they were handy and I'd hate to see them not replaced. — Ost ( talk) 17:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I just tried to check the transcludedchanges WikiProject watchlist tool, only to find that since the toolserver had been shut down and the tool hadn't been migrated to labs, it doesn't exist anymore! Is there any replacement for this currently on labs or planned for labs, or will we have to make do without this incredibly useful tool for the forseeable future? StringTheory11 ( t • c) 19:37, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
"And here is the code for your /Common.js
if(wgNamespaceNumber==3 || wgNamespaceNumber==2) mw.util.addPortletLink('p-cactions', '//tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/dyk.py?user=' + encodeURIComponent(mw.config.get('wgTitle')), 'DYK Notices');
- Or if you prefer for your greasemonkey users"
930913 {{ ping}} 23:35, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I ask because I think the loss of all these tools will affect my ability to edit, and perhaps that of others. I'm classed as visually impaired and use a screen magnifier to work on articles, and things like Reflinks, Dabsolver, etc, save a lot of time and effort. As I've mentioned above I can't imagine wanting to take on anything big because it'll be a nightmare trying to get it into shape. We do need something to replace the tasks these things did. This is Paul ( talk) 21:19, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
It's obviously extremely disruptive when a community tool being relied upon by the project's volunteers for day-to-day works breaks down and can't be fixed; and Labs was designed to make that situation easier to recover from. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 23:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I asked Dispenser at his IRC channel if he could donate the code for reflinks to WMF. I'm not sure how that all works and if the code could be used again. Anyway, couldn't WMF even pony up some cash for the cause? Reflinks saves editors thousands of hours. It's an essential service, no? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
WMF seems to have $22,171,889 in a great big pile. I suggest we offer 5,000 bucks for the product, and that's peanuts. That would leave WMF with $22,166,889 which is still plenty. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 00:11, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I'll just preface my criticism here by saying I don't understand the issues User:Dispenser had with migrating to code to the new platform, and everyone here seems to be just guessin. But I feel WMF isn't to blame for this fiasco. We should definitely not be held ransom by a developer, however good the person is at coding and however useful the product is. Any goodwill User:Dispenser created for making and allowing the use of Reflinks and his other code is slowly evaporating because people are feeling being left in the lurch. As for having to pay $X,000 for it, that would create all sorts of issues with authors of other code that was or wasn't given over as GFDL. -- Ohc ¡digame! 01:40, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there an alternative to Checklinks somewhere out there? I ask because I used Checklinks often to make sure my GA and FA articles are up-to-date link-wise. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 00:35, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
24 TB isn't needed. Legoktm ( talk) 00:58, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello! Thanks for the feedback about what's missing! May I ask you to keep the collection of what is missing / malfunctioning in one place only? It's so much easier for everbody to go through one page only. As mentioned above, we created one single page where you add the tool you miss most, missing redirects from Toolserver to Tool Labs and problems you can't name exactly (we'll sort out what you mean). You add also add yourself as someone interested in migrating or maintaining someone else's tools, so the upper part can work a bit like a voting for those who want to help to see which tools are missed by how many people. Would you mind to bring the missing tools you mentioned over? Thanks! Silke WMDE ( talk) 07:15, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Here's a thought. We can rant about some developers not using open source, taking their toys, etc., and it will make them even more alienated. Or we can consider that nothing is white or black, those guys (that guy...) did a lot for the community in their own way, and if we ask really nice, they may port the tools/relicence them under GFDL and let others work on them. So how about dropping at Dispenser's talk page, and leaving him a wikilove "thank you for your past great contribs, can you port/relicence your tools"? type of a message? I'd be surprised if getting a few dozen NICE requests telling him we appreciate his works wouldn't make him reconsider. I, for one, have been burned out of Wikipedia before, and few kind words, even in the occasional ocean of malice, did a lot to make me stay. Let's show Dispensers that we are not "leechers" who just demand and rant, and keep a lid on our valid but not so constructive complains of "he could've done it better" (yes, he could - and so could have all of us). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:57, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I am starting this thread to determine whether an RfC should be started to see if The Wikimedia Foundation can/should implement an application equivalent to WP:Reflinks, through payment, outsourcing or otherwise. I am not as familiar with the history of Reflinks as some people are, so I wanted to enlist feedback. Thoughts? -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 19:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
An RfC would be good. Has anyone asked Dispenser if he is willing to sell the copyright? Since he doesn't want to release the code, it means he either wants to make profit on it, or hurt the community. Hopefully it's the former, not the latter. Since WMF has a policy of paying for some code, I have no problem in buying code that has proven very useful in the past; it should certainly be a priority. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:16, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
This edit has just appeared on my watchlist. I don't use Reflinks (I prefer to make my own mistakes), so was that a genuine Reflinks edit, or a faked-up edit summary? If genuine, has it been ported to Labs? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 12:22, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
I am torn, mostly because of this:
<@Dispenser> The tools are running on my home machine
<@Dispenser> It running in a VM on my own personal machine over a Wi-Fi connection
(
t)
Josve05a (
c)
14:38, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
And it's down again, giving an "Unable to establish gateway with remote VM" message. GoingBatty ( talk) 21:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Just wanted to say how pleased I am Reflinks is up and running again, and thanks for doing that. It's much appreciated. :) This is Paul ( talk) 17:30, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there an alternative tool we can use from Wikipedia's labs? It has to live online as I often work from computers that are locked down for security reasons. TeriEmbrey ( talk) 14:14, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok so looks like we have or are going to have these great tools back. As noted above I have been removing the links to Toolsever from Wikiprojects pages...this includes links to Reflinks, dabsolver, etc..and watchlists. I am intersted in addind these bac to the project pages but with a template. However this time we should not just link dispenser tools but link the Wiki tool page and labs main page. Can I get help in creating this template. My main problem is a code that would detect the watchlist page by the project name space. This aspect is the only real help I need in making the template. The reason I am asking for a template is so we dont have the same problem in the future - that is 2000 projects all needing updating one by one over a nice template that can be amended at any time from one location. -- Moxy ( talk) 21:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
[https://tools.wmflabs.org/dispenser/cgi-bin/transcluded_changes.py/Template:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Wikiproject Watchlist - {{BASEPAGENAME}}]
once it's back online.
GoingBatty (
talk)
22:09, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Error: No text given for quotation (or equals sign used in the actual argument to an unnamed parameter)
Maybe there could be created tool for work with DEFAULTSORT (and other magic words, too)? It could determine which articles in specified category (or category and its subcats) contains or not contains the DEFAULTSORT. It could also determine if article's title and DEFAULTSORT has the same value, so it could be deleted from article (ok, this isn't so important). It could save some time checking categories for people. It would be nice if it would be working in other Wikipedias, not only English (I would it use in another Wikipedia, but I think it is interesting for you, my English speaking colleagues). -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 15:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
{{DEFAULTSORT:%%pagename%%}}\n
and replace it with nothing. Set the rule to run before
general fixes, and then AWB will try to add the appropriate DEFAULTSORT if necessary. Note that this will find some false positives that you'll need to skip.Portal:Nautical is, at the present time, appearing in several articlespace categories which it shouldn't be. I recognize that the categories are being transcluded onto the page by the "Article of the Day", Joseph Yale Resnick, but they're not supposed to be there and I can't figure out how to get them off. Can anybody assist in fixing this? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 02:15, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
<noinclude>...</noinclude>
tags.
Van
Isaac
WS
cont
02:39, 13 July 2014 (UTC)I feel that the Wikipedia:* namespace is holding too much, which
I would like to suggest that new namespaces are added. To make things easier to discuss, I've added subsections below. -- Gryllida ( talk) 11:16, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I tried out the WMF labs Language Tool and was surprised not to see the changes on my watchlist. By default, the changes are marked 'minor'. Might this be the reason these assisted changes did not show up? -- Ancheta Wis (talk | contribs) 12:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I found the bug: when I run LanguageTool, it removes the article from the contributor's watchlist. I had to visit the articles I touched to fix this. -- Ancheta Wis (talk | contribs) 03:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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I have tried to repair a broken-link footnote in Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, but have been blocked when trying to save the edit with the new link. I could not find the web address on the Wayback machine, CiteWeb or any of the other archive services mentioned in the Wiki help on this, but found it via Google under the archive service "archive.today". Is this archive linked to "archive.is", about which I understand there are or have been problems? If not, why am I being blocked? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 12:38, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
I am trying to fix a template, but so far, not succeeding. I have a specific question about a specific instance of the template, but the existing approach seems like a kludge, so I'd like to propose a better solution, which would require help from someone with real template expertise.
Specific issue The infobox of 2014–15 UMass Minutewomen basketball team has the title "2014–15 UMass Minutewomen women's basketball"/. The desire is to have the title "2014–15 UMass Minutewomen basketball". I thought I fixed it with an edit to Template:Infobox NCAA team season/name/sandbox. Oh duh, that's the sandbox. So maybe I simply need to copy the result into the main template. I'll try that, but I'll ask about the general issue below.
General issue The specific template to make this change is buried inside other templates, so whenever a change is needed, it takes some time to recall exactly how everything fits together. The goal, in case it isn't obvious, is to include the word "men's" as a default, include the word "women's" when sex=women, but use neither if the team name indicate the sex of the team, such as in this case. However, the approach is to use a nested set of searches for the unique set of words that identify when the descriptor should be omitted. This is already complicated, and is likely to get worse.
I think it would be better to do the following:
Wouldn't that be far easier? Plus, if some team changes their name, it means we would not have to rewrite the template, but simply change the parameter.
One complication is that the word choice is not simply driven by the sex parameter, but also the sport parameter. I'm not quite sure what happens if they conflict.
Is there someone familiar with template usage who would be willing to help me make this change, if it makes sense?-- S Philbrick (Talk) 13:29, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Recently a reflist showed up on Talk:Syrian Civil War and Talk:August 2013 Rabaa Massacre and there is no code or diff for that. I have no objection to having a reflist on a talk page, but the way it stands might confuse the editors, so I think something should be done to separate it from the discussion. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 16:14, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there a way to disable the "(edited with ProveIt)" tag next to my edit summaries? I went to the teahouse but apparently no one there was able to help. The only way to stop this, as far as I know, is by previewing my edits first, then remove it. But most of the time I forget to do so. Fitzcarmalan ( talk) 16:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Someone added 3 references to User talk:Ebyabe#Wesley then I added a new section and the references moved to my section when I created it. Blackbombchu ( talk) 23:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
(copied from Commons) Statements regarding the fate of Media Viewer and the role assumed by various individuals on the WFM project team have been and continue to be presented to the Arbitration Committee. -- Gwillhickers ( talk) 02:25, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
AFDs that have been closed using class="boilerplate metadata vfd" in the div are not displaying on the mobile version. Example Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tube_Bar_prank_calls. The class used in {{ Afd top}} is "boilerplate afd vfd xfd-closed" and these display ok. Anybody got any idea what it is about the former class that causes it not to display? Spinning Spark 02:13, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
metadata
class, and a related matter has come up before, see
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 116#CfDs in mobile view - there is much related detail at
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 116#'Listen' template not rendering in mobile view. There were one or two related threads, see for example
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 119#Wikipedia mobile page have a bug for sister project links. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:25, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
metadata
class from {{
afd top}}
or modify the relevant rule in whichever CSS file is setting a rule like .metadata { display: none; }
none
to block
whilst being the "obvious" thing to do would unhide things that should remain hidden. If we choose the first approach - which has, in fact,
already been done - we need to do something about those AfDs closed prior to that modification, perhaps send in a bot to remove the metadata
class. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
16:06, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
{{afd top}}
? It does not have the template name in hidden text as more recent ones do. If we are sure that there is nothing currently creating this class, then yes, a bot would be the solution.
Spinning
Spark
17:00, 24 June 2014 (UTC)-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
10:08, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
10:24, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits is supposed to update weekly, but it is now 17 days old. When will this be fixed for the editcountitis sufferers? -- Djembayz ( talk) 11:51, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
See subject. If this is discussed elsewhere, please point me to it. Thanks. ― cobaltcigs 22:52, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there some option (global preferences or some javascript code) to disable the Media Viewer on all wikis? -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 12:07, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
mw.config.set("wgMediaViewerOnClick", false);
mw.loader.load('//meta.wikimedia.org/?title=User:Edgars2007/global.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&smaxage=21600&maxage=86400');
/* Do nothing */
{{
db-userreq}}
or {{
db-author}}
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:31, 14 July 2014 (UTC)Another alternative:
// ==UserScript==
// @name Disable MediaViewer
// @namespace http://myveryowntools
// @description Disables Wikimedia MediaViewer
// @match *://*.wikipedia.org/*
// @match *://*.wikimedia.org/*
// @match *://*.wikidata.org/*
// @run-at document-end
// @version 1.0
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==
var code = 'mw.config.set("wgMediaViewerOnClick", false);';
var script = document.createElement('script');
script.textContent = code;
(document.head||document.documentElement).appendChild(script);
script.parentNode.removeChild(script);
Beat me, if it doesn't work ;) -- Hedonil ( talk) 20:05, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
When searching for articles where the title contains a dash (e.g. 2013–14 Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C. season) but you type the article name in manually using a minus sign rather than a dash (e.g. 2013-14 Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C. season) the article doesn't appear anywhere near the top of the search list despite the fact that there is only one letter different in the search string. This ( [33]) is the search with the dash and this ( [34]) is the search with the minus sign. One solution is to create a redirect but surely the search tool could be a little more intelligent when most users don't notice the difference between the minus and the dash and keyboards don't include the dash. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spudgfsh ( talk • contribs) 20:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Sigh. People will eventually recognize the wisdom of WP:Short horizontal line. Think there's any chance of making it official policy?— Kww( talk) 14:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
I just had what might be a brilliant idea. Before trying to get consensus for it I would like to discuss the technical feasibility of it. Often, users are offended at being informed that they are editing in an area that is subject to discretionary sanctions placed by an arbcom decision. A large part of the reason for this is seems to be that a specific user, usually another person editing in the same area, is the one that alerts them to the fact that they are in a sanctioned area. Really, an alert of DS is more like a warning sign on a highway. It is there to alert you to the presence of a hazard, not to criticize you specifically. People don't usually get angry and feel judged by road signs. So, I suppose you can see where I am going with this: how complicated would it be to design and implement some sort of system that would automatically alert a user that they are editing in area that is subject to discretionary sanctions? Given some of the bot wizardry I've seen here I suspect this would be fairly simple, but not being technically minded I am aware of my own ignorance of exactly how this stuff works. Features desired would include:
There is already an edit filter that automatically logs each use of the proscribed template, presumably whatever bot or script did this could consult with it somehow. Reminder: All that is being looked for right now is preliminary information on how difficult this would be to implement, not a discussion of whether or not it is actually a good idea. (that'll come next at some other forum) Thanks in advance, Beeblebrox ( talk) 20:52, 16 July 2014 (UTC) I've just been informed that over a year of discussion and testing has already taken place on this topic, and the idea was rejected. I therefore withdraw this as probably unworkable. Beeblebrox ( talk) 23:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC) |
This is a quick announcement that we've enabled a test of a new feature which asks anonymous editors to sign up for an account. This A/B test will last for one week from today.
If you're interested, a specification of the new interface to view, including screenshots. There's also a specification for the previous interface we tested, and you can check out our data analysis. If you want to test this out for yourself, I'd recommend viewing our beta testing wiki in an incognito browser (you may have try a couple times, since it's fully randomized).
If you remember the previous thread about this, I should note that we fixed a bug which caused the popup to appear every time someone attempted to edit anonymously. It now only shows once per user.
If you're curious about why we're testing these changes, I'd recommend reading our blog post. Please ping me if you have any more questions, Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 00:17, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Update: we've turned off the test now, so you should stop getting any signup invitations when anonymous, except for the odd caching issue. For the curious, results of the test will be posted here. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 23:50, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
See the section title. I think the max length should be about twice as long as it currently is. Every time I couldn't fit everything I wanted to say in an edit summary, it would have fit if the max limit was twice as high as it is now. Where is this limit actually specified anyway? Dustin (talk) 17:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
tinyblob
field used here is 255 bytes long, as stated here:
[36] in a very roundabout way). The value of '255' is repeated in a few other places, for example here
[37].
Matma Rex
talk
21:10, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I very much agree we need more characters, often important information is left out of summaries because it does not fit
That being said I understand what is involved in changing the database schema of a table that has millions of entries and is replicated over many servers. It would require extensive downtime.
Though, there is nothing preventing a new table from being made to that the software will begin to use. An revision ID can be hard coded so the software knows to use the old table for any rev before that and the new one for all after.
An alternative to using a special rev as a border would be to put a special character in the old table(something that is not allowed in edit summaries) that tells the software to look in the new table to the longer summary. This would mean that regular sized edit summaries would be treated normal, and only long edit summaries would require a second lookup and take longer.
With a bit a creativity there is no reason we can't manage larger edit summaries. Chillum 21:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
@WhatamIdoing: I think "Why was the database field made so small?" best summarizes part of my inquiry. Dustin (talk) 21:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm ok with current field length, it's really up to you to summarise in a couple words so that it's not hard to follow an article history. Longer edit summaries would make it harder to follow (with my screen size even now many edit summaries do not fit one line in the history tab). -- Gryllida ( talk) 11:35, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
"Why was the database field made so small?" well... because someone thought it would be enough. Much alike 640K for ram, or 4.2 billion of Interernet addresses. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 14:28, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I think everyone misunderstood that bug: performing a schema change even on tables as large as revision
is a PITA but doable, and was done before, so it's not the reason why the change was repeatedly turned down by DBAs. The problem is that WMF uses a custom
covering index on every column of revision
table which means that the total size of a row is restricted by MariaDB/MySQL's index limit. As a result, increasing rev_comment substaintially would require a drop of that index which will result in IO skyrocketing on MariaDB servers, affecting site performance.
Max Semenik (
talk)
23:14, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
[[Special:Contribs/LongUsername|edits]]
" should count as 5 characters, since this is what will appear in the history/watchlists/recent changes).
Helder.wiki
02:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
rewrote 6 paragraphs - see [[Talk:Foo#Rewritten paragraphs, 15 July 2014]]
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Some solutions for shortening long summaries:
Not sure if all of these are good ideas or not, just brainstorming. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 05:51, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Recently (last two or three days), Wikipedia seems slow to load, and sometimes fails to load pages properly or at all. All other websites seem OK. Any known issues? 86.179.2.182 ( talk) 17:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Could this be a template that got munged in some way and is not loading? BMK ( talk) 22:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
(OP) Wikipedia seems back to normal for me too now. Nothing I've done... 86.160.82.115 ( talk) 20:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
For some days now, a number of tabs at the top of the first page of each Wiki article have been appearing flapped forward, obscuring the text, and they cannot be shifted. Can this be fixed, please? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 09:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Could anyone check whether this bug report is anything that needs fixing? I'm not sure if this is a bug in MediaWiki:Gadget-DRN-wizard.js, a brief glitch in the API, or a false alarm. At any rate, the DRN script seems to be working for me on IE. (The report claims it isn't working in Firefox.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:49, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there a way to subst a redirect page? For example, if I try to subst State Route 10-Y (Virginia) into a page, what actually happens is that the redirect target - U.S. Route 19 in Virginia - gets substed. -- NE2 02:31, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
{{U|Example}}
. If that is added to a page, it actually invokes {{User link}} because
Template:U is a redirect to
Template:User link. Likewise, {{subst:U|Example}}
would do the same. I imagine you would need to edit the redirect page, then copy the wanted wikitext, then paste it wherever needed.
Johnuniq (
talk)
04:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
The reason is for an AWB run to make redirects (in accordance with WP:USSH). For example, I can hack the regexes to create {{subst::State Route 10-Y (Virginia)}} on Virginia State Route 10-Y, but, as described, that doesn't work. The alternative is to simply create the redirect to State Route 10-Y (Virginia) and let one of the double redirect bots run through and fix them. -- NE2 04:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
This is a quick announcement that we've enabled a test of a new feature which asks anonymous editors to sign up for an account. This A/B test will last for one week from today.
If you're interested, a specification of the new interface to view, including screenshots. There's also a specification for the previous interface we tested, and you can check out our data analysis. If you want to test this out for yourself, I'd recommend viewing our beta testing wiki in an incognito browser (you may have try a couple times, since it's fully randomized).
If you remember the previous thread about this, I should note that we fixed a bug which caused the popup to appear every time someone attempted to edit anonymously. It now only shows once per user.
If you're curious about why we're testing these changes, I'd recommend reading our blog post. Please ping me if you have any more questions, Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 00:17, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Update: we've turned off the test now, so you should stop getting any signup invitations when anonymous, except for the odd caching issue. For the curious, results of the test will be posted here. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 23:50, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
See the section title. I think the max length should be about twice as long as it currently is. Every time I couldn't fit everything I wanted to say in an edit summary, it would have fit if the max limit was twice as high as it is now. Where is this limit actually specified anyway? Dustin (talk) 17:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
tinyblob
field used here is 255 bytes long, as stated here:
[39] in a very roundabout way). The value of '255' is repeated in a few other places, for example here
[40].
Matma Rex
talk
21:10, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I very much agree we need more characters, often important information is left out of summaries because it does not fit
That being said I understand what is involved in changing the database schema of a table that has millions of entries and is replicated over many servers. It would require extensive downtime.
Though, there is nothing preventing a new table from being made to that the software will begin to use. An revision ID can be hard coded so the software knows to use the old table for any rev before that and the new one for all after.
An alternative to using a special rev as a border would be to put a special character in the old table(something that is not allowed in edit summaries) that tells the software to look in the new table to the longer summary. This would mean that regular sized edit summaries would be treated normal, and only long edit summaries would require a second lookup and take longer.
With a bit a creativity there is no reason we can't manage larger edit summaries. Chillum 21:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
@WhatamIdoing: I think "Why was the database field made so small?" best summarizes part of my inquiry. Dustin (talk) 21:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm ok with current field length, it's really up to you to summarise in a couple words so that it's not hard to follow an article history. Longer edit summaries would make it harder to follow (with my screen size even now many edit summaries do not fit one line in the history tab). -- Gryllida ( talk) 11:35, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
"Why was the database field made so small?" well... because someone thought it would be enough. Much alike 640K for ram, or 4.2 billion of Interernet addresses. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 14:28, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I think everyone misunderstood that bug: performing a schema change even on tables as large as revision
is a PITA but doable, and was done before, so it's not the reason why the change was repeatedly turned down by DBAs. The problem is that WMF uses a custom
covering index on every column of revision
table which means that the total size of a row is restricted by MariaDB/MySQL's index limit. As a result, increasing rev_comment substaintially would require a drop of that index which will result in IO skyrocketing on MariaDB servers, affecting site performance.
Max Semenik (
talk)
23:14, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
[[Special:Contribs/LongUsername|edits]]
" should count as 5 characters, since this is what will appear in the history/watchlists/recent changes).
Helder.wiki
02:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
rewrote 6 paragraphs - see [[Talk:Foo#Rewritten paragraphs, 15 July 2014]]
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Some solutions for shortening long summaries:
Not sure if all of these are good ideas or not, just brainstorming. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 05:51, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Recently (last two or three days), Wikipedia seems slow to load, and sometimes fails to load pages properly or at all. All other websites seem OK. Any known issues? 86.179.2.182 ( talk) 17:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Could this be a template that got munged in some way and is not loading? BMK ( talk) 22:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
(OP) Wikipedia seems back to normal for me too now. Nothing I've done... 86.160.82.115 ( talk) 20:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
For some days now, a number of tabs at the top of the first page of each Wiki article have been appearing flapped forward, obscuring the text, and they cannot be shifted. Can this be fixed, please? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 09:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Could anyone check whether this bug report is anything that needs fixing? I'm not sure if this is a bug in MediaWiki:Gadget-DRN-wizard.js, a brief glitch in the API, or a false alarm. At any rate, the DRN script seems to be working for me on IE. (The report claims it isn't working in Firefox.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:49, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Is there a way to subst a redirect page? For example, if I try to subst State Route 10-Y (Virginia) into a page, what actually happens is that the redirect target - U.S. Route 19 in Virginia - gets substed. -- NE2 02:31, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
{{U|Example}}
. If that is added to a page, it actually invokes {{User link}} because
Template:U is a redirect to
Template:User link. Likewise, {{subst:U|Example}}
would do the same. I imagine you would need to edit the redirect page, then copy the wanted wikitext, then paste it wherever needed.
Johnuniq (
talk)
04:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
The reason is for an AWB run to make redirects (in accordance with WP:USSH). For example, I can hack the regexes to create {{subst::State Route 10-Y (Virginia)}} on Virginia State Route 10-Y, but, as described, that doesn't work. The alternative is to simply create the redirect to State Route 10-Y (Virginia) and let one of the double redirect bots run through and fix them. -- NE2 04:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Rummaging through enwiki-20140707-category.sql, I discovered sixty entries that contain negative numbers in at least one of the fields counting the number of articles, categories and files in a given category.
A few of the categories don't exist or have been deleted, but many of them look perfectly fine. Is this a feature or a bug? Paradoctor ( talk) 10:05, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Are there any known conflicts between HotCat and other gadgets? It hasn't been working for me at all for many months now, but I never bothered to report it because it wasn't (and isn't) a very big deal. This is under Windows 7, Firefox 30 and the MonoBook skin. I looked at my preferences and it's checked off. I unchecked, saved, rechecked and saved again, no difference. It's not that HotCat doesn't function, it's that the HotCat (+)(-) etc. don't even show up. I use HotCat regularly on Commons with the exact same set up, so I thought it might be something else I have installed here that's not installed over there, and that maybe someone had already reported a problem. BMK ( talk) 01:55, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
/* like this */
(or, // like this
, in the end of a line), but not
<!-- like this -->.
Helder.wiki
03:51, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a newbie and I brought this up over in the Teahouse. They suggested I bring it here. I used "save as PDF" to download an article on the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. When I looked at the resulting PDF and compared to the live article, a number of citations were missing (13 cites on the PDF and 18 on the live article.) FYI the missing citations were not very recent additions. The entire list of citations on the PDF appear to be from a much older version of the article. I see you discussed a problem like this last year, but it doesn't appear to be resolved so I figured I'd bring it to your attention. I was using a firefox browser. It happened on a Mac and a PC. Thanks Savannah38 ( talk) 14:38, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
<ref>...</ref>
tags. The last time this was reported was at
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 127#PDF printouts have lost some harv citation detail. There's nothing we can do in general terms until
bugzilla:46115 is sorted. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
I ran a script search following the recent announcement by Brad Jorsch:
Found 3 matches:
-- Krinkle ( talk) 18:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
On the Sacchin dab page the last entry has a redlink. But if you click on you get (via a redirect) to an article. How so? DexDor ( talk) 19:06, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Bigger screens, both on desktops & laptop, as well as mobile device have left images on foundation wikis looking rather small these days.
Based on research from the Analytics group "There are 15580 instances logged across 393 wikis in log.PrefUpdate_5563398" to the preference that stores thumbnail default size. On english Wikipedia the current value is 220px for "default" sized thumbnail images, the size logged in and logged out users see if they haven't manually changed their preference. Of the ~15k users who have changes this preference the trend is to set the preference to a larger size, usually 300px as seen by the graph included in the bug for this issue eventually I'd love for us to move to responsively sized images, but perhaps thats a seperate discussion.
As proposed this would change the default value for "Thumbnail size" which would affect logged out users, and users who had never modified the value of "Thumbnail size" in preferences.
I'd like to close this discussion by Wednesday July 16 2014
Jared Zimmerman ( talk) 19:35, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Make foundation wikis and mediawiki software thumbnail style images use 300px (rather than current default of 220px used by most sites) size based on user data provided by Analytics Team.
~1 billion pageviews per month? I'm guessing the amount of pageviews per month from mobile devices with smaller screens such as cellphones are likely higher. Please just show the data. Thanks. — {{U| Technical 13}} ( e • t • c) 21:19, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
|upright
parameter (which reduces the default width by 25%), see
Wikipedia:Picture tutorial#Upright images. I just applied these two fixes to the article, care to look again?
Matma Rex
talk
17:24, 11 July 2014 (UTC)|upright
is not new, it has existed for years. It doesn't matters much anyway, it is sufficient not to use |left
. MediaWiki should be smart enough to "turn |upright
on", in a way, but it currently isn't – there was a plan to fix it, but like every new idea it was met with a backlash right here. (I don't have links handy, you can probably find it somewhere, google "square bounding box thumbs mediawiki".)
Matma Rex
talk
18:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)weird hackish waysto put images next to each other or format them a specific way that looks good at their resolution (I'd guess most have no idea that a slight change from their resolution completely breaks their "perfect" formatting). The point is, that there has to be a reason they are using these methods, and my guess is because the "default" method doesn't work right or doesn't look right at the OPs resolution, so they try to "fix" it, which of course breaks it for almost everyone else. I think the point being made here is that failing to consider these issues and changing the default size is going to exponentially worsen said cases and we are going to see more of said cases. So, the question becomes, how do we fix the root cause and how do we make this work for as many readers (whether they edit or not) as we can. The first thing that comes to mind is to actually make use of @media css and set different defaults for different viewing screen sizes and get rid of the option all together. This would be the best stopgap in my mind until the dynamic size blockers are fixed. — {{U| Technical 13}} ( e • t • c) 19:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
|upright
" parameter, which shrinks the thumb to ~75% width (details in
WP:PIC#upright). That results in these size-pairs, for each of the standard (and considered) options: 220px/170px, 250px/190px, 300px/230px. See the images in the FA
Cuban macaw, for examples.
Quiddity (
talk)
20:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC)A larger format is appropriate is some situations. I could support the idea of offering two default sizes, if that is not a contradiction in terms, one for a "thumbnail" image (already much larger than the nail of most people's thumbs – elephants don't count), and one for an "expanded" or "prominent" image on the order of half the width of a desktop screen. ~ Ningauble ( talk) 17:54, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
|upright
parameter where they should, or are specifically overriding the default sizes in various places, eg.
Roy Phillipps,
SS Arctic disaster,
Royal baccarat scandal and
Pope Paul III and His Grandsons. Possibly, increasing the default size would help resolve these issues.
Quiddity (
talk)
00:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
And no, I really do not think making all of the images larger by default is a satisfactory resolution for the need to make some of the images larger. I was specifically referring to situations where one-size-fits-all is not fitting. If this is too far off topic or outside the box in a discussion of what the single default size should be, then please disregard it. ~ Ningauble ( talk) 13:20, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you everyone who added feedback, concerns, responses, and clarification. We appreciate your time and involvement. At this time I'd like to request an uninvolved 3rd party close and summarize the thread. Thank you again. Jared Zimmerman ( talk) 06:00, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Guys, what is the RGB code for blue and red links? -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 08:31, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
The cite tools don't work on safari or chrome on the iPad, the window pops up but the fields are not editable. Anyone else have this issue? GimliDotNet ( Speak to me, Stuff I've done) 21:10, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
[45] versus [46] Where did it go?? -- Kendrick7 talk 02:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
<ref example>
which made an unclosed reference. Please add your signature again.
Johnuniq (
talk)
03:54, 20 July 2014 (UTC)I've configured phpMyAdmin so anyone can run SQL queries on their own. Enjoy! — Dispenser 00:04, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
It would be a good idea to have a tool by which users not very familiar with SQL or Labs can request queries to be run, provided it has human supervision, but that was just begging for trouble. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 00:28, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
So I take it that all issues have been addressed and we can reinstate this incredibly useful tool? — Dispenser 15:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I would have though this obvious enough to go without saying, but I've added a point to the Tool Labs rules to reiterate common sense. — MPelletier (WMF) ( talk) 15:11, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Greetings, (I have forgotten), could someone provide me the page link that controls notifications above watchlist (example: A new discussion is taking place on ABC. [dismiss]). Thanks Tito☸ Dutta 05:13, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
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07:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm increasingly seeing links (and sometimes even templates) in section headings. AIUI, this shouldn't be done. How can we encourage editors not to do so? Should we raise a bug for mediawiki to remove such markup from headings? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:13, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I came across one video clip for ULS help for Telugu language wikipedia as shown below. The clip is usefull but it does not show how to access help page. We will apreciate if some one helps us with simmiller clip for Marathi language.
Thanks & Regards Mahitgar ( talk) 15:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Further to recent discussion, about {{ Authority control}}, it also appears that {{ Commons category}} does not appear on our mobile view or app; and no doubt its sibling templates and others are similarly affected.
This will affect editors little, since most are likely to be working on in desktop-view, but a significant number of our readers are on mobile devices. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
metadata
class.
About 380 other templates also use the module.
SiBr4 (
talk)
14:20, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
|metadata=no
to the {{
side box}}
that is inside
Template:Sister. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
16:44, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
It also appears that anything inside {{ Collapse top}}/{{ Collapse bottom}} is hidden on mobile. See:
example
|
---|
Foo |
This really isn't on. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:33, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
navbox
class. Same issue as with
Template:Authority control.
SiBr4 (
talk)
09:25, 22 July 2014 (UTC)I'm in the process of converting lots of Bibtex entries into wikipedia-friendly UTF-8. Consider the following bibtex entry taken from Mathematical Reviews:
@preamble{ "\def\cdprime{$''$} " } @article {MR0178390, AUTHOR = {Erd{\H{o}}{\v{s}}, Paul}, TITLE = {On some geometric problems}, JOURNAL = {Fiz.-Mat. Spis. B\u ulgar. Akad. Nauk.}, FJOURNAL = {B\cdprime lgarska Akademiya na Naukite. Fizicheski Institut. Matematicheski Institut. Fiziko-Matematichesko Spisanie}, VOLUME = {5 (38)}, YEAR = {1962}, PAGES = {205--212}, ISSN = {0015-3265}, MRCLASS = {50.00}, MRNUMBER = {0178390 (31 \#2648)}, }
Per [67], I'm guessing \cdprime is supposed to be ъ or something similar, and MR def'ed it to a null character on the assumption that most people wouldn't have the cyrillic style file included. But honestly, my LaTeX isn't good enough to be sure that's what's going on. I'm not able to get this to compile on my home machine.
Thanks, Lesser Cartographies ( talk) 04:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
(update) Worldcat uses "Bŭlgarska akademii︠a︡" and "Bulgarska Akademii︠a︡ ". Way out of my depth here.... Lesser Cartographies ( talk) 04:57, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
B′′lgarska. I'm going to chalk this up to a strange error at MR and follow your advice and use
Bŭgarska. Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it. Lesser Cartographies ( talk) 06:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
So, according to this, once an account is unified that name is reserved on all Wikimedia wiki's. So I have a few questions:
Back when this feature was enabled I could have swore I successfully unified my account. Then, sometime in 2010 or so, another user wanting to use my username on pt-wiki got a bureaucrat to rename them to my name. Now my account is not unified and refuses to unify as I don't have the password for that account. Is this a bug, or a feature, or am I misremembering that I unified my account? =)
Thanks! — Locke Cole • t • c 01:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
It seems intuitive to me: Special:Email should redirect to Special:EmailUser. I was having a chat in IRC, on #wikipedia-en-help, and I asked a user to email me, and gave the wrong link. Redirects are cheap and this should save (some) time and confusion. I mean, who would you be emailing other than users? I was going to go to bugzilla but decided to get consensus first. Comments? Thanks, Lixxx235 Got a complaint? 04:48, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
At
Template:IPvandal/testcases, I want to include a set of tests that showed the results given by a specific old version (581205260) of the template. I read and tried
Help:Permanent link, but it doesn't work for templates (it just becomes a link to the specified template; it doesn't transclude it). How can I transclude this old version of {{
IPvandal}}
? —[
AlanM1(
talk)]—
14:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
With certain articles, we get a lot of editors working at once on the article, with multiple edit conflicts etc. Recently, Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 has been affected by this.
Would it be technically possible to introduce a "timer" preventing the article from being edited for a short period of time (i.e. not more than 5 minutes) after the last edit? Of course, if such a feature was technically possible, there would need to be due discussion as to its desirability, but there's no point in discussing the latter if the former isn't possible, is there? Mjroots ( talk) 20:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that sometimes I have been getting edit conflicts on that same article's talk pages... caused by editors editing different sections (I am relatively sure of this, although I am not certain). Has anyone else experienced this issue? Dustin (talk) 22:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Have a look at the end of Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 17; there are many sections of discussions where editors are proposing or challenging text from the article, and have included said text from the main page, refs tags and all. Is there a way to address this via technical means, e.g. suppress the output of a reflist on a page? Tarc ( talk) 14:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm running IE11, and I've always used this or previous versions since I began editing in 2006. I've always known that I can't get a full-resolution SVG by clicking on the image when viewing its description page: I have to click one of the links after "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes", or rightclick to get Properties and go to the address given in the "Address (URL)" line, because I've never had software capable of viewing or editing SVGs (aside from Notepad), and as a result it's always asked me if I want to download the SVG, or download software to view it, or something like that.
In the last couple of weeks, I've discovered that this is no longer the case: going to an SVG's description page and clicking on the image will take me to a larger-resolution version of the image, as if I'd clicked on a PNG or JPG. For example, clicking on the image itself at File:NRHP Counties Net Quality.svg takes me to https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/NRHP_Counties_Net_Quality.svg without problem. Is this something new with our software, or something new with IE? I've not changed anything with my browser, aside from routine updates from Microsoft which, I suppose, could have included the capability to view online SVGs. Nyttend ( talk) 01:05, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
on pages with many references i find it difficult to find the reference i clicked because the highlight colour is too much like the page colour. is there a way i can make it more obvious? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxami ( talk • contribs) 10:31, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
ol.references li:target, sup.reference:target, span.citation:target {
background-color: #DEF;
}
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
10:49, 22 July 2014 (UTC)I am using Wikipedia in Chrome on the iPad. When I visit the site, I am redirected to the mobile version. I always tap on the desktop link at the bottom of the page and I get the desktop version. Wikipedia used to remember my preference and give me the desktop version on subsequent visits, but now it always redirects me to the mobile version. I don't want the mobile version - I want the desktop version! Any solutions - I don't mind using JavaScript?
Tracey Lowndes ( talk) 17:35, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Did something change in recent months relating to the way MediaWiki handles [[w:(lang):Example]] links? Previously, [[w:de:Australien]] should have worked in exactly the same manner as [[:de:Australien]] to produce a link to this page, however it doesn't seem to work anymore, for any non-English language code. For some reason, the en language code still works: w:en:Test and en:Test both do the same thing. -- benlisquare T• C• E 17:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
[[:w:de:Australien]]
→
w:de:Australien), or omit the initial w
([[:de:Australien]]
→
de:Australien). So long as it begins with a colon, it's treated as a clickable link, not a
H:ILL. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:36, 16 July 2014 (UTC))
This is now tracked as T70085, with a fix pending review. Matma Rex talk 23:05, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm working on a Lua replacement for {{ UND}}
My original goal was to allow an optional parameter to indicate that it should be signed. I'm still mulling how to do that, but wanted to recreate the existing functionality first.
My draft attempt is Module:Sandbox/Sphilbrick/UNDiftest
My main issues:
I know I still have to write documentation and create testcases. I will work on that, but want to make sure I don't have to fundamentally restructure first.-- S Philbrick (Talk) 17:39, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
{{#expr:}}
parser function, covered at
m:Help:Calculation. For example, {{#expr:2+2}}
→ 4 --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
mw.ext.ParserFunctions.expr("2+2")
inside Lua.
Jackmcbarn (
talk)
20:59, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
For ease of access, Karl Smesko record
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What is the correct sintax for some HTML code?
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background | bgcolor=#RRGGBB | style="background-color:#C0C0C0;" | style="background:#C0C0C0;" |
RGB - U/l | #RRGGBB | #rrggbb | |
RGB - 3/6 | #RGB | #RRGGBB |
For now it's all, but I think I had something more :) And am I right, that mixing bgcolor and background/background-color in one article could cause some problems with some browser? I read about it in one talk page. And which is the place (Wikipedia, Internet) where I could get the correct sintax?
For the tables, I think the Help:Tables could be expanded (in code size). These are the changes (never mind the reference, it is unrelated). And the tool warned for the deprecated HTML elements. -- Edgars2007 ( talk/ contribs) 15:06, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
15:59, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
bgcolor=
and compatibility. If you find that bgcolor=
is still mentioned in help pages, please list them here and we'll fix them up. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:48, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
bgcolor=
attribute (six weeks ago). What's still wrong with it? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:12, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
bgcolor=
attribute from
Help:Table. Is any of the other deprecated markup actually causing problems? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
15:15, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
bgcolor=
attribute on mobile devices, this is mainly because that attribute was never a formal part of the HTML spec except when used in the <body>
tag, so it is good practice to hunt down and fix such markup.align=
on a <table>
, <tr>
or <td>
; valign=
on a <td>
; and width=
on a <th>
. In particular, the border=
attribute is still valid on the <table>
tag and is not deprecated. Some of the changes made in that edit to
User:Edgars2007/tables was completely unnecessary, such as changing underscores to spaces in the left-hand side of piped links, changing the case of hex colour values, and adding spaces in section headings. Trivial changes like those make it difficult to spot the real changes. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
16:25, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
align=
on <table>
, <tr>
or <td>
under "11.2 Non-conforming features": "Elements in the following list are entirely obsolete, and must not be used by authors". border=
on <table>
is not showing as obsolete or deprecated, but the W3C validator gives a warning that "The border attribute on the table element is presentational markup". --
Gadget850
talk
17:02, 23 July 2014 (UTC)Should the CSS-hidden navbar be removed from the base Stub (1.8 million pages) and WikiProject banner (5.5 million pages) templates? -- Netoholic @ 23:44, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
There is a very simple way to bypass the MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist and insert any blacklisted link, and this was exploited recently. Where to report this bug for urgent attention? The related talk pages don't seem active, and, though the exploit is simple, I hesitate to post it in open. Any advice? Materialscientist ( talk) 05:10, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure where to post this, but this seems a good fit. A 2013 (!) edit to Template:Current Kenyan MPs updated the template, but also changed something so that the information will not display. See my post on the talk page for a diff. This needs fixing. -- Auric talk 13:45, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
I mostly edit from an iPad. So, a while back they switched in the mobile site by default. As it does not support admin tools I opted to go back to the desktop version. For some reason in the last 48 hours I keep getting sent to the mobile version at the start of each new session, even though I'm still logged in from before. I've searched my preferences and can't find anything in there to deal with this. Is there a way to permanently disable the mobile site?
Also, I though maybe I'd try asking the devs over at the technical forum on meta and it seems SUL is not working over there. I navigated there from here and when I got there I was not logged in and for some reason it is not accepting the password I use here. I may have had a separate password over there in the pre-SUL days but I certainly don't remember what it was now. Beeblebrox ( talk) 21:05, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
@ Beeblebrox: For the questions about the mobile web interface, Maryana is your woman. For the SUL stuff, Special:CentralAuth/Beeblebrox says that Beeblebrox on Meta is attached to your global account, so I can't explain the issues you're having crossing wikis. Try totally clearing your browser cache and cookies, and if the problem still persists then, file a bug on Bugzilla with as much information as possible. -- Dan Garry, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 17:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I have just repaired a broken-link footnote and now see a small padlock symbol beside the footnote in the "References" section of the article. None of the other footnotes show this symbol. Does this affect the footnote in any way? How can I ensure the symbol does not appear when I next mend a broken-link footnote? What does the padlock symbol mean anyway? You can see the padlock at footnote #171, "Another wave of bombings hit Iraq", in Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. -- P123ct1 ( talk) 09:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
|url=
parameter, but in |archiveurl=
instead,
like this. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:51, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
[//www.example.com Example web page]
or {{cite web |url=//www.example.com |title=Example web page }}
, and this is known as a protocol-relative URL. This does not work for bare URLs like
http://www.example.com{{
wayback}}
template uses the https: form internally, so you always get the little padlock when you use that template. It should be possible to alter it to be protocol-relative, and I see from the template's talk page that
a discussion was raised about six months ago on this matter, but which doesn't seem to have been resolved. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:47, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Some questions about the navigation links that normally appear right-justified at the top line of the window (Username, Talk, Sandbox, Preferences, etc.):
addPortletLink()
statements to one's own "common.js" file still the recommended way of customizing these links, or has this been deprecated in favor of some other method?addPortletLink()
; using Google I was able to locate only
this brief discussion. Help?Thanks, — Jaydiem ( talk) 19:48, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
mw.util.addPortletLink()
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:10, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
As noted above, "If you use references on a page, you will soon always see them at the bottom of the page, even if you forget to add the <references />
tag (or a template)."
This has been deployed and has a few issues:
</ref>
no longer generates the missing reference list error, it now mangles the following rendered markup.
T69845More discussion at Help talk:Footnotes#Missing reference markup will no longer show an error. -- Gadget850 talk 11:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Can the auto system be upgraded to add a References section header, and keep the references section at the bottom? We are now getting talk pages, with no separation between one post and the ref-list, and another post is then added beneath it e.g. Talk:Soka Gakkai where it appears that the references relate to the post above them, although they don't.
The current arrangement means that, althiough the list appears, someone has to go around and manually add the ==References== section header, which is also one of the most common misspellings (I have corrected "Refrences" at least once in 140 of the last 142 weeks, plus the corrections to "Refferences" "Referrences" and "Referneces") - Arjayay ( talk) 13:37, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Adding this feature caused explosion on pages with missing references section. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 18:02, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Dear technical experts: When I first joined Wikipedia I remember that there was a bot that went around checking and tagging pages for copyright violations. I haven't seen any pages so tagged for some time, and of course the ones it tagged have either been deleted or had tags removed. Can someone tell me the name of this bot and if it's still around? It appeared to be very useful. — Anne Delong ( talk) 05:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I regularly use my Android mobile phone to look for changes on my (ridiculously large) watchlist: we're a two-person one-computer household. I'm using Beta but not "experimental". I have set my watchlist to "Hide bot edits from the watchlist", in my preferences. This works fine on the desktop, but seems to be ignored on the mobile: every bot edit is still listed.
Three other annoying factors about the mobile watchlist:
Like many people, I have DGG's talkpage watchlisted. He currently gets a massive number of separate messages from HasteurBot every morning. As a result, I cannot see on my mobile watchlist any changes made to User talk pages between the last time I looked and about 2am UK time: the day's bundle of HasteurBot messages shifts anything earlier into invisibility.
Is there any chance of any of the 5 contributing factors being fixed?
I get the feeling that mobile users are considered to be the great unwashed, encouraged to upload photos but not expected to be serious editors. More and more people expect to be able to use their phone for a wide range of activities, and aren't always sitting at a desktop. Please can someone offer some help in this area of mobile watchlists? Thanks in advance! Pam D 07:19, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I would like to transclude Tech News weekly summaries on my user page: {{m:Tech/News/Latest}}. Is this possible? Wbm1058 ( talk) 14:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
{{#lst:}}
for the
Citation Style 1 error help pages to transclude the help section to the tracking category. I have used it a few other places. --
Gadget850
talk
02:15, 24 July 2014 (UTC)... does not seem to be working properly (it's been a while since I was going through the AFDs, back in March it was still fine). I found that a similar problem has been discussed back in 2012 already, then fixed. But there may be another reason now. Help kindly requested. -- Tone 20:45, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
With the deployment of 1.24wmf13, a page with <ref>
tags but no the reference list markup ({{
reflist}} or <
references>
) no longer generates an error. Instead, the reference list automatically shows at the bottom of the page.
The automatically generated reference list (AGRL) has issues: it is always at the very bottom of the page, has no heading and can be displayed oddly depending on the markup before it ( T70293).
1.24wmf14 will be deployed later today. It adds a tracking category so we can locate and fix AGRL issues. The category is set through MediaWiki:Cite error refs without references category and I have set it to Category:Pages with an automatically generated reference list. I have added namespace detection so that user and talk pages are not categorized per previous consensus. The AGRL will still show on user and talk pages, it just won't show in the tracking category.
-- Gadget850 talk 17:34, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
It's pretty easy to get the Help:job queue size in number of items, does anyone have any intuition about the rate jobs are processed from it? I had a request for a null bot job that I don't think should be required, the JQ is about 80K entries right now, but I don't have an intuitive sense of whether that represents a second, a minute, an hour, a day or a week in terms of latency. -- j⚛e decker talk 18:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
copied from ANI Compare these two diffs, both which are doing mass replacements. (Or there is a very unsubtle sock)
This appears to be a known issue, but this appears to have been "resolved" quite some time go https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QINU_fix
Any way to escalate this to someone? If this isn't socking (which based on the bug report seems likely) then this is probably happening all over the wiki currently. Gaijin42 ( talk) 19:28, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
The toolbar under the edit window used for insertion of special characters has disappeared. I have checked Preferences->Gadgets->Editing to make sure that CharInsert box is ticked, which it is. How can I recover the toolbar? Brianboulton ( talk) 20:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
A user is asking at User talk:Taylordw#Question for administrator whether the email throttle limiting the number of emails sent in 24 hours can be bypassed for a particular purpose. He has a reason for wanting to use email rather than a mass message to talk pages. My question here is, is that technically possible? It is not one of the standard user-right groups in WP:User rights. JohnCD ( talk) 21:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello! I keep a link to the User Analysis Tool on my userpage, and I was checking it today when I found that neither the pie chart of edits by namespace nor the bar graph of edits by month are showing. Is this happening for anyone else, and if so is there a way to correct it? Howicus (Did I mess up?) 22:15, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
If a message is left on a general Talk page or Help desk for a particular user in this form, @ Username:, is the user automatically alerted that they have a message? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 08:34, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
{{
replyto}}
) gets added in the same post that your signature was added and (b) at
Preferences →
Notifications they have "Mention" enabled (for either Web or Email); if it's enabled for web only, they also need to have "⧼echo-pref-new-message-indicator⧽" (on the same page) enabled. More at
WP:ECHO. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:23, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I am not at all sure this is the right place for this query. I cannot use all the functions in some pdf files (e.g. in footnotes) on my new laptop, e.g. Search and Go to page number. Do I need to update some software in my laptop, and if so, how, please? For technical questions that are not directly related to Wikipedia, is there a forum on Wikipedia that can deal with them? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 09:47, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I want to find a long post I made, either on the main Help Desk or on a Wikipedia article Talk page, but can only remember the month I made it (April this year) and the content, not where I posted it. I have tried to locate it but without success. Is there some way I can do a global search using key phrases from my post and my username? Even looking at the list of topics for each month in the main Help Desk archives is not going to help, as I cannot remember exactly what topic I was posting under. Can I do a global search of all the posts I have made since the beginning of the year? The User Contributions list will not help either because I can't use key phrases to search it. Does Wikipedia have a brilliant data-mining tool that I don't know about? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 13:36, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
84.106.11.117 ( talk) 13:41, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi all! I don't know anything about CSS. Could someone write a CSS code for me to change the background color of wiki to black and font color to green please? I'll put this code onto my preference section within my account so that I can view wiki in black color with green words. Thank you~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saucelord ( talk • contribs) 19:32, 25 July 2014
Wow, it works! Thank you, Writ Keeper! That is really what I exactly needs! I am happy~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saucelord ( talk • contribs) 01:43, 26 July 2014
Is there, or can there be a script that would change selected/detected ALL CAPS as in this diff ? I assume maybe AWB has a setting for this but, I'm hoping for a .js script or something or even a lab tool. Thanx, Mlpearc ( open channel) 18:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
"MAJESTY KING ZWELITHINI".toLowerCase()
If you want title case, that will be a little bit more code. You can try
User:V111P/js/Templates/Textarea1.js to see if you need a script like that one, it is an example script that replaces all spaces with underscores in the text you selected in the textarea (when editing the wiki source code). You run it by pressing its button in the toolbar. --
V111P (
talk)
05:29, 27 July 2014 (UTC)If someone comes to my talk page in all caps I just slap a LOWER CASE SPAN AROUND THE SHOUTING(<span style="text-transform:lowercase;">). I wonder if there is a template for that? Chillum 18:26, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Sometime during the last few months; and I hope it's visible to most reading this and is not just on my end; I've noticed that when signing my sig it has started to leave a rather annoying leading inter-line space before the last line of text I write. This has never been an issue before and I don't think this has anything to do with my browser (Firefox), skin (Vector), or preferences as they have not changed in years. What has changed fairly recently, I notice, is the typography the entire site uses, and I think what's behind the issue is the superscripted ™ after my 'ligature' pushing the last line of text down. Okay okay I know how pretentious my sig looks with a bogus 'trademark' symbol that links to my talk page.. but if it's all the same I've been using this crazy sig for many years and have grown accustomed to it so I'd rather not alter it nor change my default skin. So wondering if there's any workaround where I can avoid this unsightly line gap but still retain the superscripted ™? If that is even the issue, and assuming the site-wide typography change is permanent.. -- œ ™ 20:42, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
<font>
tag is deprecated. You should swithc to CSS. The following should work (it also reduces the font size): <span style="font-size:1.6em;line-height:.8em;">œ</span>
, which results in œ. -- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
21:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
<font>
tag still works, and causes the overall sig code to be shorter/simpler, then why not still use it? I'm guessing it's because not all browsers support it? --
œ
™
00:31, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
08:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
line-height
property controls the line height (and thus the "gaps"), and it is used here (<font>
doesn't allow that) clearly with the aim of getting rid of them. However, I have no idea how Edokter arrived at the value of 0.8
em for it, perhaps it's just an educated guess :)
Matma Rex
talk
19:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
20:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)I have an idea: Let's create a new template "fbas" which would produce a flagicon & wikilink to a national football association article, instead of this full code:
{{flagicon|GER}} [[German Football Association|Germany]]
– code used in many many articles
{{fbas|GER}}
– my idea
Germany – result of both
But how to do it? Maiō T. ( talk) 15:08, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
{{
fb|GER}}
→ {{
fb}}
- this would avoid creation of a new template. Incidentally, have
WT:FOOTY been informed? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:12, 26 July 2014 (UTC) Done Copied to WT:FOOTY.
Maiō T. (
talk)
17:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi!
I would like your input on this: MediaWiki talk:Common.js#Global gadget for LinkFA. Helder.wiki 16:14, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
The {{
Discretionary sanctions}} template has a few issues. The documentation says user can just add the code and the style into the template, but that does not work. For it to work properly, we must use "topic=" and "style=". For example:
{{Discretionary sanctions|pa|long}}, as suggested by
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contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them, which has been
designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
{{Discretionary sanctions|topic=pa|style=long}}
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contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them, which has been
designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
My template-fu is too weak to figure this out in any timely fashion. Are any template experts able to fix this? Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{ re}} 16:58, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
{{{topic|}}}
{{{t|}}}
and {{{1|}}}
), every time one of them is used, the others must be used as well. There were four uses each of {{{topic|}}}
and {{{t|}}}
but only one {{{1|}}}
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:26, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
{{Discretionary sanctions|pa|brief}}
. Try adjusting that to match the text preceding your words "as suggested by". --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello there, I'm having a trouble. Why I can't check my contributions through this from android?? And yes I'm a IP user. Yes, I'm a proud IP, I'm - 101.221.128.220 ( talk) 18:07, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Have a look at the history of Arijit Singh. The article is configured to automatically accept edits by auto-confirmed users. It was vandalized and then reverted by ClueBot NG, yet the bot's edit is still shown to be "pending review." Anyone know what's going on? -- Ixfd64 ( talk) 15:56, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
I wasn't sure where else to post this. I found a source for the second footnote here, but apparently, I can't insert reference formatting inside reference formatting. What would be the best way around this? Airplaneman ✈ 22:15, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
OK. I have a situation on the Cree language page where the Infobox for that page has the wrong information. One of the Infobox lines is for ISO-639-3, where it lists cre – inclusive code, then goes on to list 9 dialects. Only problem is that cre covers 6 of those dialects, and the other 3, though part of the Cree language, are not part of the cre ISO 639 macrolanguage code. However, the template won't allow me to list 4 ISO-639-3 codes, with the fourth one being the cre, and then having the remaining 6 displayed. If I want to have such a custom display, how would I go about doing it without recreating the template from scratch? Is there a way I can enter commands to custom edit that template? I had originally asked this question at WP:HD on July 24, and it was recommended that I pose the question here. CJLippert ( talk) 23:10, 27 July 2014 (UTC)