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Where's the "Technical maintenance will be performed soon" banner coming from? MediaWiki:Sitenotice has been blank for two weeks. Nyttend ( talk) 01:22, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Maybe the wrong place to ask this, but are we associated with something called Wikispeak? I just discovered this verbatim oral version on YouTube of a Wikipedia article I've been active on. It's the June 11, 2013 version and really out of date (it was since cleaned up for A-class review). It's also a rather strange electronic voice that omits all block quotes, and hence has some awkward jumps from one place to another. But I was surprised to find this. — Maile ( talk) 16:47, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
What website do you use for formatting/adapting references for Wikipedia?
-- Strower ( talk) 11:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I've enabled the HotCat option in my preference panel, but I do not see any HotCat tool in editing panel. I use Opera 12.15. I've tried it in Firefox 22, but HotCat is not shown there also. Can anyone please tell me what can be the probable cause and solution? -- Ascetic Rosé 16:58, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Hey all,
Here is a copy of the weekly update for the VisualEditor project. This is so that you all know what is happening, and make sure you have as much opportunity to tell us when we're wrong and help guide the priorities for development and improvement:
VisualEditor was updated as part of the wider MediaWiki 1.22wmf14 branch deployment on Thursday 22 August, though many of the changes were made available ahead of this release. In the week since 1.22wmf13, the team worked on fixing bugs and stability and performance improvements to VisualEditor, with some minor work on features.
You can now add and edit <u>
(underline), <sub>
(subscript), and <sup>
(superscript) annotations in experimental mode on MediaWiki.org (bugs
51609,
51612 and
51611 respectively). These, along with the annotations for <s>
(strikethrough) and <u>
(underline) which were released last week will be made available on all wikis once the re-design of the toolbar is complete, to avoid them dominating the buttons that are more normally used.
In terms of bugs, firstly, file inclusions which have empty |link=
parameters are no longer corrupted on save (
bug 51963). A number of issues related to the undo and redo buttons and keyboard shortcuts not applying to the document were fixed (
bug 52113). Inserting an existing reference into the first paragraph in Firefox no longer inserts it at the start of the document, but where your cursor was (
bug 52159). Finally, after a significant re-write of some of the core of VisualEditor, a number of bugs related to text input and selection in various scripts and using various Input Method Editors (IMEs) were fixed (bugs
50105 for Arabic;
50346 for Kannada;
50631 for Korean;
51477 for Devanagari; and
52716 for Japanese).
A complete list of individual code commits is available in the 1.22/wmf14 changelog, and all Bugzilla bugs closed in this period are on Bugzilla's list.
Following the regular MediaWiki deployment roadmap, this should be deployed here on Thursday 29 August.
Hope this is helpful! As always, feedback gratefully received, either here or on the enwiki-specific feedback page.
Jdforrester (WMF) ( talk) 00:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
There use to be a way to get monthly pageviews within a year by changing the YYYYMM part of the URL to just YYYY. E.g., you use to be able to change http://stats.grok.se/en/201308/In_a_World... to http://stats.grok.se/en/2013/In_a_World... and it would yield data points for each month of the year. Is there a way to get monthly pageviews for an entire year anymore?
Also is it possible to get a sorted list of monthly or yearly pageviews of the articles in a category like Category:Wikipedia featured articles, Category:GA-Class Good articles or Category:Wikipedia four award articles.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure who to contact about this, so I hope that you can help or know someone who can.
There seems to be some problems with the PDF output of many wikipedia pages. For example, the page about the Earth ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth), when saved as a PDF using the print/export options within wikipedia, many of the in-text citations are not included in the PDF output, nor are any of the bibliographic references.
I was wondering if this was a technical problem or a known bug, and if it is being addressed? I tried to edit the wikipedia page to see if there were problems with how the citations were input in the text, but everything seems to be fine. The HTML document online looks perfect, it's just the output PDF is missing lots of reference information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustyfairmount ( talk • contribs) 19:28, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
cite xxx}}
template is dropped, whether it's supposed to be Notes or References. Errors begin with the very first item:{{
cite web}}
. There are some items which I can't explain -I was recently using the mobile version of wikipedia.org and noticed an irritating situation. When I am browsing an article's sub-category and then click a link to another article, I eventually will return to the original article I started browsing by clicking the back button on my browser. However, instead of being taken to the exact place I was in the original article I am taken to the bottom of the page with all the sub-categories un-clicked or closed. This is frustrating because some articles have very long sub-categories and it can be extremely tedious when attempting to return to the exact place where I left off (the place where I found the link that took me to another article). If Wiki could somehow change this, so when I hit the back button on my browser the article's sub-categories that I opened are still open and the page will then, when finished loading, take me to the exact place I left the article, it would save me a lot of frustration and time.
I am unsure if this can be fixed by Wiki or if the software and or browser I am using are to blame.
iOS version 6.1.2 (10B146) Mobile Safari browser - Settings: Private browsing is turned off. Javascript is on. Pop ups are blocked. Cookies are accepted only from sites visited. iPhone 3GS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.83.114 ( talk) 04:56, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Template {{ Listen}}} (e.g. on Alice Arnold - see [2]) does not render in our mobile view. Can anyone see why, or say how we might get this fixed? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:26, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
Listen}}
has class="metadata mbox-small"
What we need to do is identify a few other objects which use either or both of these classes, and see how those display. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
metadata
class here, see
User:Redrose64/Sandbox7 - four boxes show in normal view, but only two in mobile view. The two that show are the ones without metadata
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. So, do we:
-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:00, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
<table>
for the box appears four times in normal view: <table class="metadata mbox-small" style="border:1px solid #aaa; background-color:#f9f9f9;">...</table>
<table class="metadata" style="border:1px solid #aaa; background-color:#f9f9f9;">...</table>
<table class="mbox-small" style="border:1px solid #aaa; background-color:#f9f9f9;">...</table>
<table style="border:1px solid #aaa; background-color:#f9f9f9;">...</table>
but only appears twice in mobile view - only the third and fourth (the ones which lack metadata
) are physically present. Therefore, it's not that there are four tables of which two are hidden by CSS (such as display:none;
) - something in the mobile view software is actually removing two of them before the HTML is served.{{
listen}}
to use {{
side box}}
, and the user who put class="metadata"
into {{
side box}}
- both of these were
User:Happy-melon. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:32, 23 August 2013 (UTC)|metadata=
no
to each box. —
Lfdder (
talk)
11:25, 23 August 2013 (UTC)Recently, Happy Melon hasn't edited more than once or twice a month, if that. Can we move on without waiting for their return? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
side box}}
and added the parameter to {{
listen}}
.
Happy‑
melon
11:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
1.22wmf13 brought a new attribute named "mode" to gallery tag. unfortunately i can't update the appropriate help and doc pages (specifically Help:Gallery and Help:Gallery tag) because i'm in a (not very successful) wikibreak. for some reason i did not see any tech bulletin even mentioning it, never mind actually explaining or documenting it. IMO this is a significant improvement to the gallery tag, and it will be a shame if it'll go unused because of lack of documentation. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) ( talk) 16:33, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
On the talkpage of Chelsea Manning, I'm constantly being notified on "conflicts" with... blank space, apparently Crisis. E X E 16:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Could someone please take a look at the infobox in the Human article and determine what has messed it up? There's a lot of bolded wikicode that's broken and visible. Hey mid ( contribs) 20:22, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
<wbr>
is now allowed; see
Help talk:HTML in wikitext#wbr where I have a preliminary description.
Wikipedia:Line-break handling needs to be updated. --
Gadget850
talk
23:03, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
If you go to Special:Permalink/569843617 in normal view, you get an old revision of the page. If you click "Mobile view" at the bottom, you get the current revision. If you're already in mobile view and click Special:Permalink/569843617 you don't get the old version - you get the diff of the edit which created that old version. How can I create a true permalink for mobile view? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 11:04, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
oldid2}}
takes me back to the desktop view, which defeats the object of showing what a specific revision looks like in mobile view. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
23:36, 23 August 2013 (UTC)Meta: I've commented before that we don't have a centralised place to discuss issues with our mobile site. Perhaps this page is adequate, or do we need WP:Village pump (mobile) or some other page? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:30, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Has anybody else noticed that the styling for
preformatted text
has changed?
It's the same for text with a leading space
The border has changed from (I think) 1px dashed #2f6fab
to 1px solid #dddddd
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
21:29, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
#tag:pre
(<
pre>
is actually a parser tag, and not HTML). --
Gadget850
talk
22:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone know how to get the HotCats to work? I've had it for a long time, but then it disappeared and I can't seem to get it back on. I have tried turning it off and on and it doesn't help!-- Sanya3 ( talk) 04:36, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Per the m:Global bans global policy, you are informed of the discussion above. Please comment there and feel free to appropriately distribute more widely in prominent community venues in order to «Inform the community on all wikis where the user has edited». Nemo 10:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
From my experience with government financial charts and manufacturing charts, they are mostly oriented to at least providing tick marks to easily recognize Mon-Fri cycles, and to separate week-end from week-day performance and cycles, ie, 7-days cycles are identifiable. Could someone assess how easy or difficult this would be to put on the Wiki Page Stats Graphs which do not presently utilize them? Can the Wiki graphs take advantage of the time-tested technique of effective graph communication/presentation techniques from industry? 99.140.197.29 ( talk) 13:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
The Preferences pages should be updated, now that pages have section links that used to say "[edit]" now saying "[edit source]", for some editors including the lead, and a tab link that used to say "Edit" now saying "Edit source". I've just edited Help:Section to that effect, except where it discussed Preferences. I can't edit the Preferences pages. Where the updates should be:
(All brackets so in originals.)
Nick Levinson ( talk) 17:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Someone asked me here who was the original editor of an article which is now a redirect. I don't know how to find it out. Can someone help?-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 18:39, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Okay, this may or may not be in the right place (I never know when it comes to the village pump), but why can't we view our own deleted contributions? I don't see any credible reason in why we can't, other than maybe some technical reasons that can be easily solved. Insulam Simia ( talk · contribs) 17:03, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
image array}}
look like garbage on mobileThe mobile version of this site resizes the images in {{
image array}}
after the page loads, which causes the text to misalign itself. Oddly, disabling Javascript causes the template to render correctly. I attached two screenshots—the top is with Javascript enabled, the bottom with Javascript disabled.
This is Safari on my iPhone 4S; I haven't tried any other devices. — Designate ( talk) 17:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I've discovered a three-figure number pages using the Google Maps home page as a reference. Please see this discussion, and others linking directly to specific locations on that site about how to resolve this. Some scripting assistance may be required. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:20, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
New features
<wbr>
HTML5 tag to say where a word can be cut. (
52468)
[7]wikipage.content
hook, so that your scripts are re-run when a page is changed after the document-ready
event (for example using Ajax). (
30713)
[8]Problems fixed
VisualEditor news
<references>
block. (
51741)<s>
tag), lower text (
<sub>
), upper text (
<sup>
), underlined text (
<u>
), computer code (
<code>
and <tt>
), math text (
<math>
),
Egyptian hieroglyphs (
<hiero>
), and to say that text is in another language (
lang="ar" dir="rtl"
). (
51609,
51612,
51611,
51590,
51610,
52352)Future
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19:56, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello. In about the last 24 hours, my HotCat has been disabled. I tried removing it from my Preferences and re-storing it, but to no avail. Is there something else I should do? Thx. -- Rosiestep ( talk) 23:07, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm trying to go through the WP:MED stub-class high-importance articles, looking for a project to address unnatural appetites, and I'm doing some cleanup on the way. When I go back to the page, though, the assessment grid doesn't update (i.e. stub/high still shows 21 hits including Developmental milestones which is now a redirect rather than an article. Do these update on a schedule? 71.231.186.92 ( talk) 04:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
What happened to the summary "preview" of categories? It used to be that one could see a quick summary along the lines of "(12 C, 68 P, 3 F)", indicating that the category contained 12 subcategories, 68 pages, and 3 files. Now, it appears as "(12 categories, 68 pages, 3 files)", leading to a monstrous mass of black text any time that a category contains a large number of subcategories (e.g. Category:Years in baseball). I strongly recommend reverting to the old format. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 18:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
.CategoryTreeItem span[dir="ltr"]
(based on a cursory look at the source code), although it feels hacky.
Theopolisme (
talk)
15:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Slowness for hours this morning in loading English Wikipedia pages (to fully load, that is, one tab very slowly appears on the page, then the next one slowly appears, slowly, slowly). Also, Commons repeatedly times out before it can load. Wikisource and other languages Wikipedia seem to load fine. — Maile ( talk) 15:36, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
What's the way, if any, around this unknown parameter flag, e.g: "
Albert Boime (2004). "William Holman Hunt's The Scapegoat: Rite of Forgiveness/Transference of Blame". In Ellen Spolsky (ed.). Iconotropism: turning toward pictures. Bucknell University Press.
ISBN
978-0-8387-5542-6. {{
cite book}}
: Unknown parameter |isbn10=
ignored (
help)" ? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk)
20:03, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
|isbn10=0838755429
. It has never been a valid parameter; the guidance at {{
cite book}}
is to give just the ISBN-13 in the
|isbn=
parameter. This is one of those perennial questions at
Template talk:Cite book and other pages. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
22:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I noticed recently on Talk:Chelsea Manning that I was getting edit conflicts while section editing, even though the edits that conflicted with mine were to a different section. I don't recall noticing this before, and Help:Edit conflict still says it shouldn't happen. Does anyone know whether something has changed? SlimVirgin (talk) 22:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
What's the best way to bring this to the attention of people who can fix it? I experienced seven edit conflicts and two saves that didn't take last night while trying to edit a section of Talk:Chelsea Manning. I would normally have given up but persevered to see how long it would take to get the edit saved. When I checked the history, seven people had indeed edited the article, but only three had edited that section. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:27, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Helder 12:05, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Reported SlimVirgin (talk) 01:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
It seems that Google Maps are retiring their Wikipedia layer. I'm awaiting confirmation, but if true, that's very sad. I was involved in liaison with Google to get that set up to use {{ Coord}}, some years ago, and people I've showed it to have always found it useful. The problem is, Google kept it hidden away, so I wouldn't be surprised if stats showed that people didn't use it much - at least not as much as they might have done.
It strikes me that we could re-purpose some of the code used to generate Special:Nearby, and get it to spit out KML , whose URL could be passed to Google Maps, or any other KML-aware system.
Is that do-able? Or should we be building our own equivalent of the Google Maps layer, using OSM tiles on our own server? User:Kolossos did something like that, but it seems to be using an out-of-date or otherwise in complete data set - even so, switch (under "Optionen") to English or your language of choice. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:43, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I want to convert some data from a free (NO COPYRIGHT CLAIMED UNDER TITLE 17 U.S.C) pdf table [18] to a wikitable. Is there a tool for?. --Best regards, Keysanger ( what?) 09:32, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm having some problems with Wikipedia using Opera Mini on my phone. Does anyone know what's wrong?
The first time I typed in the URL, I got the mobile edition of Wikipedia over an HTTP connection, although I explicitly typed in HTTPS and used the option to disable the mobile edition. The second time, I got the desktop edition over HTTPS as requested. Why didn't I get this the first time too? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 21:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
This is a notification that the Unblock Ticket Request System will be migrating to WMF Labs on Sept 7th, 2013. A redirect will be set up on the current toolserver account. For any questions, please contact me on my userpage.--v/r - T P 02:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm trying to do a null edit on Template:Infobox officeholder to update its TemplateData but I keep getting
whats going on?-- Salix ( talk): 06:33, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I guess I have already invented a template for posting official video of our major sporting events. This one:
which is on 2013 World Championships in Athletics – Men's Marathon
but there is no Template formatting. With each of these postings, there will always be the topical component of the appropriate video link. So I don't know how to insert topical information within a template.
The reason I am thinking it needs to be a template is because of layout issues (at least as seen from my browser) when the video template aligns with other templates, its smaller margin and lack of template size formatting allows other template and infobox formatting to overlap text as in 2013 World Championships in Athletics – Women's 5000 metres#Records. I would think a force width or better yet a hidden forced width with blankspace would prevent that kind of error from happening, but I don't see anywhere in the code where widths are set. This is more complext Template/Wikiformatting than I understand. Help needed. Trackinfo ( talk) 10:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
WP:CfD/2013 August 28 - Category:Wikipedians by gender and subcats is something everyone should read. The decision to participate is all yours and I don't care one way or the other if you do or don't and if you do I don't care if you support or opposed. I'm only posting this here so that you will be aware and take any action you deem appropriate. Thank you. Technical 13 ( talk) 15:22, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedians who use Microsoft Windows needs to be deleted per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 August 20#Category:Wikipedians who use Microsoft Windows. Can someone please either empty it, or tell me what to do here? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
"the category's existence basically is incidental to transclusions of {{ User:Technical 13/Userboxes/OS}}."
Looks like the latest software update has caused the "Math" section (under the "Appearance" tab) in users' Preferences to appear in the local wiki language instead of in the language chosen by the user (for me, that's English). I started seeing this just now in my non-English Wiktionary accounts (I can say it wasn't happening even 24 hours ago), but I see it's also happening in the Russian Wikibooks (an arbitary non-Wiktionary wiki I decided to try). Can someone please verify that this is true for them and then report it at Bugzilla? (I know I could do it myself, but frankly I detest Bugzilla's user interface, and I refuse to use it.) - dcljr ( talk) 07:19, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Right now a tool I use is broken by MediaWiki Bug 32013. Why in the world do I need yet another id and logon to report this? Does the WMF want to discourage more editors with this garbage? Vegaswikian ( talk) 20:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
*.wikipedia.org
then click Add. Now click Close, Ok, Ok, and there you go. —
Dispenser
04:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Modern Skin, Firefox 23.0.1, Windows XP. Visual Editor temporarily disabled. The drop down menus on the tabs at the top are completely gone. When I pull up a page, the viewing tabs at the top do not populate across the page the way they used to. We used to have "Page" tab, with a drop down menu. Now it's just "History", and you have to actually click on History to go to another view and see tabs for what used to be in the drop down menu. Most annoying, when I'm on my own user page, I no longer see a "User" tab with the drop down selections, such as Userspace, Contributions, etc. and I don't see any way of quickly accessing those options. That's what's the most annoying, because it was a handy way to jump to one's own user subpages. What has happened now? If I open in Opera, the drop down menus are there as they should be. This is specific to Firefox. — Maile ( talk) 23:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
— I'm on Google Chrome, Windows 7. – Wbm1058 ( talk) 01:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
this has nothing to do with the https deployment". As I stated above, I'm using Chrome, not Firefox. I definitely, not probably, noticed this because the link · Edit count · at the bottom of Special:Contributions/Wbm1058 changed from this to this. Was changing that link not part of https deployment? Can I change that link in my user preferences? What does Cyberpower678 have to do with that tool? The X!'s Edit Counter home page says that it is a "Script maintained by the xlabs team" (whoever that is). Can that team fix their script to make it secure? Ideally, that should have been done before the link was changed, to make the change transparent to end-users. Wbm1058 ( talk) 15:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
To address the issue of the tool's 'owner', I maintain that I inherited the and do not own them and I've taken part in the process, led by Cyberpower, to migrate these tools to labs. I've joined a team, of sorts, that Cyber has termed xlabs and so as these tools move to labs, I am abdicating any sort of psuedo ownership I gained while hosting open source tools that I didn't even design and barely maintained. I'm definitely okay with any changes to the tools as long as it's a team decision and I've address that with Cyber already.--v/r - T P 02:23, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
@ Cyberpower678: I was about to try making a screen shot, but now the report is really messed up. A recent attempt to fix something? Now I get this:
— Wbm1058 ( talk) 16:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
@ Cyberpower678: Hey, I see now that "Wbm1058&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia does not exist." Apparently someone took down my data to protect me from myself ;) Maybe we should debug this in a less visible place? My bot's reports still work, but maybe it's not safe to upload screen shots? Wbm1058 ( talk) 16:22, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Open call for questions. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 12:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
There is an ongoing RfC going on at Category talk:Wikipedians#RfC: Is this category and current subcategories appropriate for Wikipedia that readers of this Village pump may be interested it. Technical 13 ( talk) 12:45, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Could there be a way to hide bots from view in the block log? This has been mentioned once before by User:Jasper Deng, but nobody ever replied. Thanks, Insulam Simia ( talk · contribs) 15:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Could I please get Palmetto Education Association decoupled from my sandbox. I want to start drafting a new article, and when I make edits in my sandbox they also edit the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eirefrance ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
On articles like .hack, .NET Framework, .htaccess, and .com, the Vector sidebar's sections sometimes fail to be collapsible, and User:Js/6tabs-vector always fails to work (actually, I am using a version modified to handle the VisualEditor tab, but switching back to the official version makes no difference). My vector.js itself is loading fine, as demonstrated by making it add a dummy link to the toolbox.
When viewing the offending pages, Firefox's Error Console shows a message like
Error: mw.Title: Could not parse title ".htaccess"
https://bits.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.centralNotice.bannerController%7Cext.uls.i18n%2Cime%2Cinit%2Cinterface%2Clanguagenames%2Cpreferences%2Cwebfonts%7Cext.uls.webfonts.repository%7Cext.visualEditor.viewPageTarget.init%7Cext.wikimediaShopLink.core%7Cjquery.client%2Ccookie%2CdelayedBind%2Ci18n%2CjStorage%2Cjson%2CmwExtension%2Ctipsy%2Culs%2Cwebfonts%7Cjquery.uls.data%2Cgrid%7Cmediawiki.Title%2CUri%2Capi%2Cnotify%2Cuser%2Cutil%7Cmediawiki.legacy.ajax%2Cwikibits%7Cmediawiki.libs.pluralruleparser%7Cmediawiki.page.startup%7Cskins.vector.js%7Cwikibase.client.init&skin=vector&version=20130829T195454Z&*
Line: 262
Discussion elsewhere suggests that this is related to the secure login feature, but I'm not sure how that applies to me: I had already been using the secure server (enforced by HTTPS Everywhere), I'm not getting any mixed-content warnings, and other pages don't have the problem. What should be done about this? -- SoledadKabocha ( talk) 20:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC) (+ 20:27, 29 August 2013 (UTC))
This may be a temporary problem, but I can't watchlist or de-watchlist any page right now. Clicking on the star, either an error message box appears (saying an error occurred when trying to change the watchlist settings) or the star just spins forever and nothing happens. I use the regular Wikipedia server (i.e. the non-secure one). I tried clearing the browser cache, but that didn't help. Hey mid ( contribs) 21:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
The https change, or something else, appears to have broken the Citation Expander gadget, at least for me, at least on Firefox for Mac. I have unchecked the https setting, logged out, logged back in, quit Firefox and started it again, but I have still been unable to make the Citation Expander gadget work. I have reported this bug.
Is it working/broken for anyone else? Is there something I can do to fix it for myself? – Jonesey95 ( talk) 05:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
The bot's maintainer has set the bot's account to not use SSL for now, as a workaround. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 13:41, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I am an active wiki editor on Ancient Egypt subjects and work a lot on articles that typically do not garner much views, for example on obscur pharaohs of the first and second intermediate periods (typical example Mersekhemre Ined or Intef I). Being curious about the number of views such articles get and how this depends on the number of links to these articles, I regularly use the Page View Statistics tool to access the number of views. I noticed that for very rarely visited articles, even orphan or near orphan articles (e.g. see Helwan retouch and its page view stats), the number of daily visits always fluctuates around at least 2-3 a day. Now this is rather striking: are there really 2-3 people a day researching the Helwan retouch ??
Instead, I believe that much of these views are actually bots accessing the page (maybe from google or other search engines, or from wikipedia itself). Thus, I can summarize my question as follows: for articles with very little views, can we distinguish bot views from real humans accessing the article? Is it possible to estimate the real traffic that these articles garner?
I tried to find studies on articles with very few visits but did not find any (so many pages are devoted to the most visited wikipedia articles and so little is devoted to the numerous articles with very few visits). In particular, this "bot view noise" obscurs the real impact of these articles and does not help increase their visibility (how awesome would it be to be able to distinguish which wiki-link led a reader to a given article). Because of this, in the end, I can't even say if there is at least one human per month interested in e.g. Pepi III or Senusret IV... Iry-Hor ( talk) 09:06, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I'm having some trouble using Wikipedia through HTTPS. Whenever I visit a new page, I get the following message: "WikiPage: Couldn't parse page name from url ' /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)'". I can still view & edit the site, but this dialogue box pops up for every page, and I need to close it before I can continue. Does anyone know why this happens and how I can fix it?Thanks, ItsZippy ( talk • contributions) 10:56, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Recently the Green Delta to link to the improved diff display has vanished from my diff pages. When searching for instructions about "Improved diff" to see if there was an error in my setup, I found that there apparently aren't any instructions in the Wikipediea: or Help: pages. Two questions:
Anyone who uses the EasyBlock script having issues? Mine doesn't seem to be working, though a computer reboot or cache clear I'm thinking may do the trick (if it's just me). Or could it be the https update that is doing it? – Connormah ( talk) 07:20, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
The new Code Editor is badly broken. I use Firefox with text zoomed to +225%, witch makes the Code Editor utterly unusable, yet there is no obvious way to turn it off. I also often use an external editor (via It's All Text), but the CE makes even that unworkable by randomly moving its icon around.
Between this and VE and the upcoming Flow crapfest, I've had enough. WMF can go fuck itself for all I care. I'm out if here. (At least until things shape up, start functioning properly and let me choose the way I edit.) — Wasell (T) 07:30, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi,,
I have been directed to here after asking about this on live chat. The things they said to do which did not result in a fix are as follows:
Look on the side for the small minimised tab Look under the toolbox for curate this page I have also tried with another browser.
Why is there no curator bar for me?
Thanks :) MrBauer24 ( talk) 15:12, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
The url converter script user:js/urldecoder.js is no longer working. It works if I take the "s" out of the "https" at the start of the url. The author has not edited since May 2012, so I'm not sure posting on his talk page will be of any use. Thanks, -- Diannaa ( talk) 18:22, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Where we have a {{
Coord}} template in an article with |display=title
, the coordinates, usually seen at the top of the desktop view, are not visible in our mobile view. (This is also true of the title coordinates when |display=inline,title
is applied, but this is less of an issue as the coordinates are displayed elsewhere on the page). For example, compare the desktop view of
Casa Milà with
its mobile view. How can we fix this?
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits
12:48, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
|display=title
does appear in the page source, at the point where they would appear if the {{
coord}}
had been given |display=inline
.<p>
<span id="coordinates">Coordinates:
<span class="geo-nondefault">51°44′04″N 1°14′54″W</span> /
<span class="geo-default">51.7344°N 1.2482°W</span>
</span>
</p>
href=
and title=
attributes of the <a>
<span>
tags have been condensed for clarity. So, it's fixable in CSS for this site, without involving the devs --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
coordinates
and two classes geo-nondefault
and geo-default
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:08, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
.geo-nondefault, .geo-multi-punct { display: none; }
Apparently, .mobile #coordinates
is hidden by MobileFrontend intentionally (with the remark "/* TODO: style for mobile */"). Now we have to ask, do we want it unhidden, and so, where do we put it? —
Edokter (
talk) —
19:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
geo-nondefault
class is the least important of the three identifiers that I gave above... it's supposed to be display:none;
because {{
coord}}
outputs both the decimal and dms forms; the one that is intended to be visible is given class="geo-default"
and the other gets class="geo-nondefault"
which hides them. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
#coordinates
, which contains .geo-default
. Unhiding it shows coords at the top of mobile view, but is dependend on template placement. All we need to do is find a good spot for it using absolute positioning, and unhide it in Mobile.css. —
Edokter (
talk) —
10:29, 27 August 2013 (UTC)FYI there are now two globes in the mobile alpha with slightly different outcomes when you click on them (albeit the alpha one is broken as a patch didn't get merged in time). We should merge these concepts as that is very confusing! I'd suggest we discuss this on mobile-l mailing list as many developers don't follow Village pump? I think the beta solution TheDJ has created is much less prominent as it should be and preferable. My only real concern with the beta (and desktop in general) is not everyone understands what longitude and latitude coordinates are. They should at least be clickable to some mobile optimised map or some kind of explanation before we push that to stable. Jdlrobson ( talk) 14:38, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Can I ask a technical question here? If so here's my Q: I'm currently using {{break|1}} in template code to space down a line. But it is spacing down more than I want. And not using {{break|1}} doesn't position where I want either. So it seems something inbetween might be right. So is there any way to space-down half a line? Thanks. Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 00:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
Algebraic notation}}
. But why not just leave out the {{
break|1}}
from that template? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:54, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
<table>
or <div>
; and differing box-model methods for relative positioning - margin or padding; and different measurement units (px or em); then the border has to be taken into account. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I had a very weird experience on page Motorik. There is a link to play a MIDI file from Commons that led to file upload wizard when I first opened the page. I thought about removing it since it leads to a dead file, but checked the history and saw it was added 3 days ago. I tried to go to the file directly ( ), but it didn't appear in the suggestions in the search bar. I went to Commons then and found it. So I edited the original page and clicked Show preview. Link was still dead. I then copy-pasted the title from the Commons page (Motorik rhythm.mid) into the corresponding template on the Motorik page. Clicked Show preview and, hey presto, it works! I clicked Show changes and Wiki didn't find any differences, so I clicked Save, checked the history and my edit didn't appear. The link was now working, however, and it still is now (at least for me). Why in the world could this happen?! 93.139.59.230 ( talk) 01:18, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Given the newly created Wikipedia:Million Award, how can we request that the page view stat tool present monthly and yearly pageview totals? It will save everyone lots of work totalling month by month data.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:59, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
When I click "Report" at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship I get the following error:
Is this the right place to report this error? (I don’t have a bugzilla account). Thanks in advance, X Ottawahitech ( talk) 03:26, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Extended content
|
---|
<!--Loading Peachy (version 2.0 (alpha 5))... Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'CURLError' with message 'cURL Error (3): <url> malformed' in /data/project/xtools/Peachy/HTTP.php:175 Stack trace: #0 /data/project/xtools/Peachy/Init.php(182): HTTP->get('//en.wikipedia....', Array) #1 /data/project/xtools/Peachy/Init.php(153): Peachy::wikiChecks('//en.wikipedia....') #2 /data/project/xtools/public_html/rfa/index.php(36): Peachy::newWiki(NULL, NULL, NULL, '//en.wikipedia....') #3 {main} thrown in /data/project/xtools/Peachy/HTTP.php on line 175 |
I have a useful tool in my sidebar toolbox called Regex editor, which I use to store a lot of commonly used stuff like template code and so on. I have no idea how I got it. Since about yesterday none of my stored regexes appear. Can anyone tell me where the tool comes from, or who made or maintains it, or where it stores the stuff saved in it, or whether I have any chance of recovering my saved stuff? Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 11:53, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. I've probably got about thirty templates and other things stored in your excellent regex editor. It would not be unthinkable to copy them over to the https version by simply copy-pasting between pages. However, if you happen to be able to give me similar guidance on where to find the data in Safari 5.1.9 (OS 10.6.8), then that would save me some time. Either way, thank you. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 20:48, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
The page at
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Justlettersandnumbers/toolbox&action=edit ran insecure content from
http://meta.wikimedia.org/?title=User:Pathoschild/Scripts/Regex_menu_framework.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript.
", just in case that helps.
Justlettersandnumbers (
talk)
11:10, 1 September 2013 (UTC)I have never gotten it to work fetching info for a book from an ISBN but it always fetched data for journal articles from DOIs and at least the titles of webpages from URLs. Now, nothing at all. I am using Firefox 23.0.1, if that makes any difference. -- Brainy J ~✿~ ( talk) 13:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
The backlink for reference lists has been restored from the custom ^ caret to the default ↑ up arrow. See Help talk:Cite messages#An arrow ↑ or a caret ^?. You may have to purge a page for this to show up.
References
-- Gadget850 talk 22:22, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
span.mw-cite-backlink a { padding 0 6px; }
Thanks for the new line numbering facility when editing .js
files. Up to now, I've had to recourse to an external tool when receiving error messages about a bug in "line 242
". Don't need that any more, thanks to the numbering. The only disadvantage is the loss of the use of the browser search function, since replaced by the edit-box search function. --
Ohc
¡digame!¿que pasa?
01:54, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Since a few days ago, the Edit Summary field no longer provides previously used summaries. These previously used would show up as I started to type characters in the Edit Summary field that matched previous summary beginning characters. Did something change in WP or was it because I had a regular Microsoft Windows fixes and patches installed on my machine? How can I get this memory of summaries back? Hmains ( talk) 17:55, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
I found the root cause of this problem. It is described here and here. It sounds like IE long ago implemented a simplified 'security step' (probably because they didn't have secure storage for this information on you computer back then) and they were never motivated to implement it in a different way. Not sure if we can do anything about this, but i'll ask around. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I have a couple questions about templates, plus a meta-question - is this the best place to ask about template syntax?
The template {{ CBB roster}} has a field for weight. While there is no rule against listing weights for women, in practice it isn't done (I just manually checked almost all uses of the template for women's teams) I'd like to add an option to suppress this field, and think the best way to do it is to use the existing parameter for sex, and suppress the field when sex=w.
I think I should use the #switch option. (or maybe #ifeq, because I only have two options?) I need to read up on how to do that, but before I do, I wanted to see if there was a preferable way of handling such a situation.
The second question is related. If I suppress the weight column in the header template, I need to do something with the Player template {{ CBB roster/Player}}. That template doesn't have the sex parameter so my question is, do I have to add a parameter and make sure they are coordinated, or is there a way for the Player template to use a parameter passed to the Header template (The Player template will never be used in practice without a header template)-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 20:13, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
{{#switch:{{lc:{{{sex|}}}}} | w | f | woman | women | womyn | dames | girl | girls | sugar and spice and everything nice | γυνή | xx | ♀ | female = for god's sake, don't put a woman's weight on Wikipedia!}}
Van
Isaac
WS
Vex
contribs
23:24, 30 August 2013 (UTC)Not using VE I made a comment on a talk page here and some material got deleted that I had not touched, this was after being edit conflicted. When I re-added this something else disappeared. I do not tamper with other users coments and did not remove either of those statements by accident and am concerned something went wrong technically. Good thing I checked the 1st diff. Any ideas?. Thanks, ♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 00:43, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I've found that HotCat isn't working for me. It's been 7 days that HotCat isn't working for me. I've modified my preference for 5 times and cleared my browser's cache too. Can anyone give me a solution? For your help I've given an attachment here.-- Pratyya (Hello!) 14:44, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) 08:47, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
border-bottom:
property. If you're interested in the details, they're in
Template:Fake heading which applies the appropriate styling to a <div>...</div>
element instead of to <h2>...</h2>
- with the aim of making something that looks like a section heading without actually being one. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:44, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
After a few days away the auto-complete function of my subject header/edit summary fields has vanished. Is this a Wikipedia issue or a browser issue? I'm on the latest version of IE btw. Giant Snowman 11:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
To answer my own question - there's a tick-box on 'My preferences' which switches it back to non-secure, and has restored all my auto-complete settings. Giant Snowman 14:36, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
The "revision history statistics" link to Wikimedia Tool Labs which appears on page histories is currently serving up blank pages: e.g. [22]. Examining source shows
<!--Checking for updates... Peachy is up to date. --><!-- Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'CURLError' with message 'cURL Error (3): <url> malformed' in /data/project/xtools/Peachy/HTTP.php:175 Stack trace: #0 /data/project/xtools/Peachy/Init.php(182): HTTP->get('//en.wikipedia....', Array) #1 /data/project/xtools/Peachy/Init.php(153): Peachy::wikiChecks('//en.wikipedia....') #2 /data/project/xtools/public_html/WebTool.php(110): Peachy::newWiki(NULL, NULL, NULL, '//en.wikipedia....') #3 /data/project/xtools/public_html/WebTool.php(48): WebTool::loadPeachy() #4 /data/project/xtools/public_html/articleinfo/index.php(10): WebTool->__construct('ArticleInfo', 'articleinfo') #5 {main} thrown in /data/project/xtools/Peachy/HTTP.php on line 175
Does anyone know whether this do to a malformed link, a tool labs bug or what? NE Ent 14:26, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Précis: We should use sort keys to transform Category:Hidden categories into an at-a-glance index to all administrative backlogs.
Full proposal: Our list of administration categories as seen at the aforementioned category ( random example) is sorted by month name, which makes it vastly less useful. Here's how the content of Category:Monthly clean up category (Articles lacking reliable references) counter appears:
As you can see, extremely difficult to quickly assess. On the other hand, if we sort by year, then month, like this:
Suddenly, it starts providing an at-a-glance overview of each type of administrative category. And something immediately jumps out - an article that's been tagged since 2005, but was otherwise buried in a mess of categories. (See if you can spot it in the first example.)
I believe that this could be accomplished by setting numeric sort keys of the form yyyy-mm in each template that provides an administrative category. That in turn would require some logic in {{ Ambox}}.
To me, this is a quick win in terms of improving our interface to the ever-growing mountain of administrative backlogs, and we should get on the case with it. — Scott • talk 12:18, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}
s in the linked diff with the applicable variables and I believe that would work...
Theopolisme (
talk)
13:20, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
__HIDDENCAT__
magic word, which doesn't have provision for a sort key. You need to trace through nested subtemplates to find it: {{
Monthly clean-up category}}
→ {{
Monthly clean-up category/outer core}}
→ {{
Monthly clean-up category/core}}
→ {{
Wikipedia category}}
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
This is not a problem with me, because it just amounts to bringing the article up anew, rather than re-loading. But not for the first time since the change, I'd had an article open for an extended time and did the "re-load" at the top of the page. I got "problem loading" on the tab, and this message in the body:
Doesn't happen a lot, but I think Firefox is confused sometimes by the change. — Maile ( talk) 23:08, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, have been away for a week and the script for adding links into the left-hand menu (monobook) no longer appears to be operating. I use a version of User:Jsimlo/shortcuts.js. Anyone any ideas as to what has changed to cause this to not operate. Thanks. Keith D ( talk) 11:47, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
What is going on at Sulle sathya? The wikicode for the page and the multiple issues container appears fine, but for some reason the tags on the top of the article repeat themselves in a rather broken fashion several times. -- TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 14:45, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
When I tried to add a script to my javascript page, the WikEd toolbar appears but there's no edit window to use (OS Windows XP, browser FF 23.0.1). No change when I purge the cache, and I've opted out of VE. Thanks and all the best, Mini apolis 23:41, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
I have been trying to optimize the wording that relates to feature requests over at WP:WMF. I see from here that one submits a feaure request by selecting "enhancement" for severity once one is reporting a bug in Bugzilla. Category:Wikipedia feature requests currently says "To post a feature request, please visit Wikipedia:Bugzilla or Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). This is a collection of ideas that have been put forward as Wikipedia requests for new software features. Feedback on these ideas is encouraged." (I tagged the feedback sentence with where?. Where would that feedback go?) Is there any consensus on whether WP:VPP, WP:VPI, or WP:VPT is the best place to discuss potential feature requests when people don't have enough information to go to Bugzilla yet? Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) 15:55, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I've never experienced this problem before: I don't, however, think it's related to the http/https change, because it's not only happening on WMF projects (although it is at its worst here) – if I have two or three browser windows open (Pale Moon 20.3 on Windows 7), every so often the browser windows get jumpy and become shuffled up in the wrong order. Although this happened a few times over the weekend, it has now happened 50+ times already today. Perversely enough, the same thing is happening on an acquaintance's computer with Firefox 23.0.1 on Windows Vista; also mostly whilst surfing/searching on WMF pages (but may I stress, not just here – only the majority of the time). Any tips on what it could be and/or what I can do? Jared Preston ( talk) 13:25, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm interested to tweak a wonderful script I've recently begun using: User:Symplectic_Map/AutoSpell. Most of what I want to do is simple enough, like removing a couple of the misspellings that return false positives and changing the edit summary a little. The one thing I don't have the JavaScript knowledge to do, however, is to make it so it ignores words surrounded by dashes, hyphens, or %20s (in other words, to skip over URLs). Is there someone that might be able to help me with that? The specific script that I think it would concern would be User:Symplectic_Map/script.js or perhaps User:Symplectic_Map/spell.js. Thanks. -- Rhododendrites ( talk) 14:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
MOVED TO meta:Talk:Privacy_policy#Collection_of_.22unique_device_identification_numbers.22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.185.183 ( talk) 20:48, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Anyone noticed that ClueBot NG is down? Insulam Simia ( talk · contribs) 18:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Over the last few hours I've noticed something odd about this File usage list: it's lengthening, not shortening. To make sure I wasn't mistaken, I made a note of the entries from A to F, which totalled 15; later on, I refreshed the list to find that there were now 16. Checking my notes, I found that the extra entry was Formentera which seems to have been added with this edit. I made a WP:NULLEDIT; which correctly removed it again. The effect of the null edit I understand; the effect of the true edit I do not.
Until yesterday,
File:Wikivoyage favicon.svg was in that article, due to the use of {{
Wikivoyage-inline}}
; but that template was edited
23 hours ago to replace the image with the new one for Wikivoyage: I would expect the File usage list to shorten, not lengthen. How can the job queue be so badly out of step? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:29, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
This is a quick notice to inform the contributors of this village pump that there is a WP:RfC being conducted at WT:Templates for discussion#RfC: Should Userbox templates in Template: space be nominated at TfD or MfD that I think you may be interested in. Happy editing! Technical 13 ( talk) 21:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I'd like someone with the know-how to create a form so that editors wishing to make a new disambiguation page can just plug in a few terms and have the page automatically generated. Basically, I'd like a form with a field for the ambiguous term, and any number of fields for the list of articles that are ambiguous to that term, and a separate field for inputting brief description of the listed articles. I would also like this form to automatically generate the formatting where names of albums and films are entered, (e.g. [[Avatar (film)|''Avatar'' (film)]]). Can this be done? bd2412 T 15:52, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
For subjects with no primary topic:
Foo may refer to:
{{disambiguation}}
For subjects with a primary topic, where the disambiguation page is at "Foo (disambiguation)":
Foo is a kind of bar. It may also refer to:
{{disambiguation}}
GA bot ( talk · contribs), which keeps the list of good article nominations at WP:GAN up to date, has recently been turned off due to its maintainer, Chris G ( talk · contribs) no longer having the time to support it. The source code is online here, and in theory I've got the technical chops to take this over and test it with a sandbox copy of MediaWiki, but I don't know the first thing about running it live and supporting it. Can anyone help out?
The relevant discussion is here Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:13, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Could someone give me a link so I could read about this new feature? Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) 09:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
It seems that our {{ Authority control}} template is not showing on our mobile view. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
<th>...</th>
and the border-left of the <td>...</td>
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
11:40, 5 September 2013 (UTC)Hey folks! I know I can customize an edit notice at a Special:EmailUser page.
My question is: can I add a preload to the edit box at that page some way (like using &preload= in the url )?
Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 14:03, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Rather than attempt to pick one picture to illustrate the Middle Ages, I've picked five and am using {{ Random subpage}} to load the images into the blurb. Can anyone see any technical issues with this? Ought I to include a {{ purge}} in there too or will different people get different images when they visit anyway? Thanks in advance for your help. Bencherlite Talk 15:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
There are many, many people who have put themselves in the various categories for foreign language speaking ability. But on the occasions where I've needed such linguistic assistance, I've waded through many names, only to find that the categorized had not been here for years. Could we possibly do something to make it possible to search those categories only for those who have been active here with some reasonably recency? DeistCosmos ( talk) 19:34, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey all,
Here is a copy of the weekly update for the VisualEditor project. This is so that you all know what is happening, and make sure you have as much opportunity to tell us when we're wrong and help guide the priorities for development and improvement:
VisualEditor was updated as part of the wider MediaWiki 1.22wmf16 branch deployment on Thursday 5 September. In the week since 1.22wmf15, the team worked on some interface changes, fixing bugs, and stability & performance improvements to VisualEditor.
In new features, we have changed the toolbar to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. At least initially, we have moved all but the most basic tools into a single drop-down, including inserting media, templates and other transclusions, and references & reference lists. As part of this, the controls to add <u>
(underline), <sub>
(subscript), and <sup>
(superscript), <s>
(strikethrough) and <u>
(underline) annotations to text will now be available to all users in the drop-down.
We also added a set of keyboard shortcuts for setting the block formatting: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted ( bug 33512). The help/'beta' menu now exposes the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give better reports about issues they encounter ( bug 53050).
When inserting a new link into a blank location, we now additionally suggest lower-case link anchors as well as the upper-case equivalent if you've typed that in, so typing in "iPhone" will prompt "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" ( bug 50452). Inserting media files when some content is selected no longer replaces the content, but puts the media item at the end of the selection instead ( bug 52460). Inserting a link, reference or media file will now put the cursor after the new content again ( bug 53560).
In the reference dialog, the 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have a reference ( bug 51848). Newly-added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label ( bug 51670).
We fixed a few errors with copy and paste; copying over nodes (like references or templates) no longer inserts additional newlines on paste ( bug 53364), and if you copied an item and then changed it, or pasted it and changed the copy, you would get the changed item (and not what you copied) on the next paste ( bug 52271). The names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate ( bug 53503).
Finally, our Google Summer of Code students neared completion of their work. The Math and SyntaxHighlight extension editors have both made excellent process, and the team hosted in San Francisco Moriel Schottlender, lead on the tool for setting text language details, for in-depth discussions of how we might improve the back-end to support the tool better.
A complete list of individual code commits is available in the 1.22/wmf16 changelog, and all Bugzilla bugs closed in this period are on Bugzilla's list.
Following the regular MediaWiki deployment roadmap, this should be deployed here on Thursday 12 September. You can test it right now on MediaWiki.org if you want to see what it will look like here.
Hope this is helpful! As always, feedback gratefully received, either here or on the enwiki-specific feedback page.
Jdforrester (WMF) ( talk) 00:46, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm interested see the number of languages a page is attached with, just to the right side of the Languages i.e: Languages (NNN)
. Am I alone to expect this?--
Mrutyunjaya Kar (
talk)
12:42, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
$(function() {
var label = $('h3#p-lang-label:first')
, l = label.siblings().find('ul li[class|=interwiki]').length
, a = label.find('a')
, t = a.text();
a.text(t + ' (' + l + ')');
});
$(function() {
var label = $('#p-lang')
, l = label.find('.pBody ul li[class|=interwiki]').length
, a = label.find('h3')
, t = a.text();
a.text(t + ' (' + l + ')');
});
Because the Lua-based cites are so quick, there is ample speed to auto-relink all sources from the current hard-coded "http:" into protocol-relative format "https://..." when a page is being formatted to store the cache version (or during edit-preview). There would be no need to edit the 2.1 million pages (2,050,000+) using the wp:CS1 cites. This would allow even users with high-security browsers to keep all links within the https-protocol format and avoid security warnings of dropping down to http to view a source website. Before Lua, to trim hundreds (200+) of URL strings to omit "http:" was not feasible for large articles due to the 60-second timeout during edit-preview; however, the developers might have a plan to force all external links as protocol-relative unless they contain a special code-sequence in the URL, to keep "http:" for rare websites which do not handle https. Again, the current links use the hard-coded "http:" prefix to drop from secure-protocol when viewing most sources, perhaps casting a visible shadow around the source websites to help infer which articles are being read. I think the Lua-based cites could be upgraded during a few days to auto-relink as protocol-relative URLs, using Lua's rapid built-in substring feature to extract the URL at the "https://..." portion (omitting "http*:"), with basically zero overhead in processing speed. The main issues are consensus, preparation and any side-effects. - Wikid77 ( talk) 07:06, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
But I'd like to alert those with coding abilities (and particularly those with an interest in supporting WikiProjects) to see it over here. Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) 10:21, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
So I tried changing my password today and this is the message I got "You have made too many recent login attempts. Please wait $1 before trying again." Also, here's a screenshot of it. Anyone know why it says to wait 1 dollar? — - dain omite 16:47, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
The default history page [23] for "Wolfhound: Revision history" lks, next to last revn on page, to ...&diff=571756292&oldid=220467466 as compare-to-current and to ...w/index.php?title=Wolfhound&diff=220467466&oldid=prev as compare-to-revn-previous-to-this-line's-revn as i think i should expect. But hovering the two lks shows respectively
for "cur: as i expect but
for "prev" which is, uh..., absurd. The diffs seem indeed to show simply reversal of which page has the "old" or "new" label.
Shutting down for complete reboot, to see if this is repeatable.
--
Jerzy•
t
23:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
OK, it really happened once. But i live by the watchword that if it only happens once, it didn't really happen, from a software maintenance point of view: case closed, AFAIK.
--
Jerzy•
t
00:21, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I just added some references to an article on French Wikipedia and it seems like a script automatically created a cache of each webpage I used on a site called wikiwix.com and then added a link to the cache in the footnotes for the references. I was not expecting this. Does anyone know anything about wikiwix and whether we can get it here?
The cached versions lose some of the formatting, but so what? Here is an example: [24]. Formerip ( talk) 00:33, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I've recently done a write-up about accessibility problems on Wikipedia in the Signpost's tech report, and flowing from that, I've started a bot request discussion to fix some accessibility issues that I noted in the write-up. Any comments at the bot request discussion would be appreciated. Graham 87 05:15, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
As other editors have already made note of, the change-over to Secure URLs is causing problems for a lot of us. I've already explained above how upsetting it was to have my Wikipedia browsing history suddenly disappear. I mistakenly thought that unchecking the setting in my preferences had taken care of the problem. Not So. It turns out that when I specify one of the normal/non-secure Wikipedia URLs, the software no longer recognizes me as a logged-in user -- iow, the pages display as they do for any anon. IP user (and as I discovered by accident, my IP address shows up in the edit history, as one would expect). But as soon as I go to a secure URL, everything goes back to normal -- and that's without having to log in again; iow, it keeps me logged in, as it should. But those secure pages don't show up in my browser history, no matter what I do. Yes, I've changed & re-changed my preference setting and logged back in several times. And I've also looked for the trouble-making cookies that were mentioned above -- but curiously, I don't seem to have ANY cookies for Wikipedia, even though it is one of the few sites where I expressly allow them by default. <sigh> Any help on this would be hugely appreciated! Cgingold ( talk) 08:34, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I've been seeing lots of reports (far more than normal) lately at WP:AN/WP:ANI from people who were given cached versions of pages with vandalism that was reverted well before the reporters loaded their pages. It just happened to me for the first time since I started editing in 2006; I got this version of Australian rules football about half an hour after it was reverted. Have our caching settings changed? Is it something with MediaWiki that we could fix? Nyttend ( talk) 02:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Dear technical people: A couple of days ago I tried to move a page from Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Koso Kent Introl Limited (KKI) to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Koso Kent Introl Limited (KKI). Somehow, I missed and accidentally managed to move the page to Portal space. I figured that I would just move it again, but my destination page already existed, so the page move failed. So far this is as expected.
Next I did something that ended up causing a problem: I tried to move the article back where it came from by clicking on the history and selecting (undo) next to the page move item. I wasn't sure if it would work, but the undo software displayed a message stating that it could be undone, and I took this as a positive and pressed the save button.
What happened next was really strange. Instead of undoing the page move, the software now changed the Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Koso Kent Introl Limited (KKI) article (which I had never edited at all) to a redirect to the article in Portal space. Now two articles had been apparently moved into one! With the help of an administrator everything was put back in it's appropriate place. (These articles have all been deleted now, so I guess someone decided they weren't useful.)
Here's my question: Is it possible to undo a page move with the (undo) in the article's history? If not, could the (undo) function be modified not to say that the edit can be undone when someone tries? I won't do it again in any case, but someone else may. — Anne Delong ( talk) 15:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Today I saw an account with the username " Niggerhater678". The account was, of course, blocked, but not before it got to vandalize TFA. We have a filter in place to prevent articles with similar titles from being created without administrative approval. Couldn't we do the same for account names? Joefromrandb ( talk) 01:21, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
So I'm not entirely sure this is the place to come (feel free to trout me and send me in the right direction if this isn't the place to ask), but could someone possessing both the technical knowledge of the ins and outs of substitution and the ability to dumb said knowledge down head over to Help:Substitution and simplify the language? I've been here for years (and I've been editing templates for most of those years), and parts of this page are completely indecipherable to me. Everything's hunky dory until the section titled "Technical implementation", where it starts to get a little murky. I can understand the main body of that section after reading it through a few times, but the way it's worded could be confusing to a newbie. I'd reword it myself, but I'm not entirely sure how to go about it. The subsection of that section, which is about safesubst: goes completely over my head. I'm pretty sure this is a wording issue, and is not due to a lack of clue on my part. (Though, hey, I could be wrong!) The section titled "Recursive substitution" could do with an explanation of the concept/definition of recursive substitution; as is, it just starts by saying that substitution isn't recursive. Not much help to a newbie.
I know the normal place to post about this is the page's talkpage, but it's pretty inactive, so I figured I'd have more luck over here. Again, I'm probably in the wrong place. Let me know if there's anywhere else I could go to ask about this. Cheers, — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
This archive page is not displaying all archived Good Article Reassessments very well. In fact, 50 percent is displayed, and the rest... are just templates or something like that? I tried discussing this to bot operator, but he is busy at this moment and will be back on November. Also, I tried in WP:AN, but the message I left will be archived in hours soon because almost no one responded there except me and bot operator. I'm hoping a fixture. -- George Ho ( talk) 05:18, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure how long it's been around for, who's responsible for it, or where it may have been requested or discussed, but I just noticed the template transclusion preview feature and I'd like to thank any and all who made that happen. I've been wishing for a feature like that for some time and this is a nice solution. For anyone interested, I made a script to add the feature to any namespace page, as transclusions often occur outside Template space: User:Equazcion/UniversalTransclusionPreviews. Equazcion (talk) 18:57, 7 Sep 2013 (UTC)
@ BJorsch (WMF): I put together a little something at User:Equazcion/sandbox that I think might make the page more intuitive. My vote is to use the top line as a replacement for everything currently above the form, and add the collapsed help section below the form. It's collapsed so that when the preview shows up it isn't pushed down too much on the page. Equazcion (talk) 21:30, 8 Sep 2013 (UTC)
I've just discovered that sometime in the last couple of weeks (since 28/8), the interface for editing .js pages (eg MediaWiki:Geonotice.js has switched from a "normal" edit window to a blue-tinted one with line numbering and a smaller, lighter-weight font. I can see the benefit for many use cases, but I personally find this distracting - any idea how to suppress it and return to the normal editor?
I'm using Chromium 28.0.1500.71 on Ubuntu 13.04, for what it's worth. (Note that this is not the same as the font discussion a few threads above - it's specific to .js pages, and does not involve a non-monospaced font) Andrew Gray ( talk) 14:41, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Is the Nastaliq template broken? When I tried to load pages using it, I saw a flash of Nastaliq script and then it changed to the browser's "sans serif" font for Arabic. I looked at the HTML source and the template was fine there, but when I opened it in Firefox's Inspect Element the markup was rendered <span title="Nasta'liq" style="font-size: 125%; font-family: sans-serif;" xml:lang="und-Arab" lang="und-Arab">(contents)</span>. This problem manifested in FF 24 beta, IE10, and Chrome 30 beta. 140.182.204.229 ( talk) 17:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I'm venting, but does anyone in charge know what they are doing? The facts say no. The change to switch all links to https has broken the browser history for many of us. I guess the super smart technical decision makers don't use the browser history. For those of us who do, this is again another one of a series of stupid changes for the sole purpose of making it difficult for editors to use Wikipedia. Vegaswikian ( talk) 00:32, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I want to sincerely thank everyone in this thread, civil or not, logical or not, because I came here to figure out why I stopped getting a dropdown box each time I needed my own useful edit-summary suggestions. As a result of this thread, I unchecked the now default HTTPS, and Lo and Behold! My edit-summary dropdown box returned! So, thank you, Big Daddies, but – No Thank You. Joys! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 18:11, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I was just talking with a new user, who hesitated to try to AfD an article because the procedure's so off-putting, and I can certainly see their point. I have been here since the Ark, and I find it off-putting too. By contrast, I nominated an image for deletion on Commons a day or two ago, and was awed by how easy that was. Smooth as silk! Why can't we have that too? Please? Would somebody like to take a look at how it's done on Commons and give us something similar? Or is there some reason we actually need the confusing, jargon-ridden, template-infested, multi-step, instruction-creepy procedure that we have? (MfD is no better, and CfD, at a quick glance, seems worse.) Bishonen | talk 20:30, 29 August 2013 (UTC).
I've never nominated any file for deletion on the Commons but have done two AfD...the first one I stumbled through by looking at others and copying codes/markup language. But I couldn't remember what I'd done and I messed up the second one. Luckily, two more experienced editors came to my Talk Page and walked me through the steps. But I probably need to refer to that conversation thread if I nominate another AfD.
For one thing, the instructions are not obvious. Now, probably someone will come by and give me the link to the instructions which appears somewhere on the AfD main page but it should be more prominent, not hidden two thirds of the way down the page. It's easy to find pages that give you criteria for deletion but the "how to" (what templates you use, notifying the creator, where you post the rationale, creating a separate discussion page, etc.).
In contrast, I think CfD is pretty straight-forward. There is one page and you add to the list, just post the category you're interested in deleting, merging or renaming, post your rationale and post a very obvious CfD template on the relevant category page. Done. Liz Read! Talk! 13:23, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Bish: completely agreed. The manual process here has gotten so awful and convoluted that my workflow for nominating a page for deletion now involves enabling Twinkle temporarily, nominating the page, and then disabling Twinkle. It's terrible.
I think we need some kind of "Twinkle Lite" script that's auto-enabled for all editors that allows for simple, basic actions. It'd be good if it used real words in the user interface and not the fucking mess that Twinkle brings along (xfd, csd, blergh). In my ideal world, there would be a delete tab that everyone (including regular editors and admins) would hit that would advise CSD, prod, or XFD. And if CSD is selected, the admin could then delete the page immediately rather than tagging it. Otherwise, the script would auto-tag and auto-notify (similar to how Twinkle behaves, if you can find the appropriate link to click...). -- MZMcBride ( talk) 23:24, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I shall outline a somewhat more general problem, another which Twinkle partly alleviates — article tags. Currently they are normal templates, placed next to article content itself. This generates a yet another potential for misuse and misinformation: falsely dating maintenance templates, breaking markup, inserting false protection icons. Templates like {{ pp-semi}} should not exist: protection icons should be provided by the MediaWiki software. {{ unreferenced}} should not be a template put inside the page markup, it should be a feature of MediaWiki which actively keeps track of maintenance issues. Same goes with AfD notices. Nothing stops vandals or spammers from removing or backdating them, besides page protection, but this is obviously discouraged. If we had a system which understands tags and can put some restrictions on their use, that would
They say that Flow is about to fix the discussion issues — good. About the bloody time. But I think it will miss the point if we do not also recognise problems in the larger picture. Twinkle is a patch around the general technical ineptitude of Wikipedia's software. Ideally, it would not exist at all. Keφr 15:51, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
It would be possible to move to the SGC system or the system SSL 3.0 or maybe XMPP? João bonomo ( talk) 15:40, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not currently use perfect forward secrecy (PFS). If anyone is recording Wikipedia HTTPS traffic (e.g. dodgy governments) and Wikipedia's long-term private key becomes compromised, all the recorded traffic can be decrypted. PFS allows each connection to be encrypted with a different key; should a key be compromised, only the communication over that one connection is revealed.
Additionally, Wikipedia is using the RC4 cipher algorithm. Given the news this is possibly compromised, [29] I'd recommend switching to AES for browsers that support TLS 1.1 or later. (AES should not be used with TLS 1.0 because that combination is vulnerable to BEAST attacks.) – PartTimeGnome ( talk | contribs) 22:46, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Minor League Baseball On pages where it is used as an infobox (e.g. Great Lakes Loons), it creates an extra line hanging above the text and I can't seem to get rid of it. Can someone help? — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 01:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Hopefully this Teahouse question won't be archived before someone looks at it. I couldn't see the text on the right when I clicked on "show". I asked about this thinking there was some glitch in how it was added to the page. User:PrimeHunter said there should be a scrollbar but there wasn't. He asked my browser, which is Internet Explorer 9.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:44, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, what has changed in the last day to cause a change in the font of the text in the editing box. The box opens with the text in the font that it has been for some time then changes as the page loads to a thinner lined font. There is no change on Commons so must be something in the wikipedia set-up. Also how do you stop the change happening? Keith D ( talk) 13:33, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
uselang=qqx
to reveal the message names and is in the sans-serif proportional font. This is in both Firefox 23.0.1 and Opera 12.16 --
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:07, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Instructions to reproduce:
This behaviour is apparently dependant on JavaScript.
The hell? Adam Cuerden ( talk) 08:29, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
So, my question is, is VisualEditor part of the MediaWiki software package? If not, is it going to be at some future release? Or is it some sort of an extension that you can add on if you want to, turning it on and off at will? Say, for instance, that someone on another wiki wanted to install VE (crazy, I know). Could they do that? ~ Adjwilley ( talk) 02:02, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
It's rather difficult to navigate between CfD pages using the mobile view, as the header tab which contains the links to the previous and next days' pages doesn't appear in the mobile view. Any idea how to fix this? – Philosopher Let us reason together. 22:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
'wmgMFRemovableClasses' => array( 'default' => array( 'base' => array( 'div.stub', 'div.sister-project', '.portal', '.boilerplate', '.hiddenStructure', '.medialist', ), 'HTML' => array( '.topicon', ), 'WML' => array( '.metadata', ), 'extracts' => array( '.metadata', 'span.coordinates', 'span.geo-multi-punct', 'span.geo-nondefault', ), ), )
I am unsure if this the right place to report this but the Book tool's PDF export function has been producing incorrectly rendered notes and references for several months, maybe over a year. For example, see meta:Book tool/Feedback#Bug: Notes and References all end up as Notes (it's worse than title implies).
I made this post at the above meta page: "This bug is still present, and is worse than described in that many notes and references do not appear at all in the PDF. Try w:Book:Overview of the Solar System and w:Book:Leonardo da Vinci." but I then suspected no one who can help is looking at that page.
The pediapress support links at meta:Book tool/Feedback all appear dead.
This bug maybe relevant but it is assigned to nobody. Or this one, over a year old and still unassigned. - 84user ( talk) 13:42, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Suddenly every page visited takes me to the secure site, and attempts to preview edits bring up nothing - just the edit window of the full page - what gives? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
You're not alone. Ginsuloft ( talk) 20:51, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm having all sorts of troubles, too. Editors must have an option to turn secure protocol off. I understand the benefits and all, but for some this mandatory secure connection would do more harm than good if it cannot be turned off. Please, fix.— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); August 28, 2013; 20:52 (UTC)
I've monkeyed around in Firefox, including (about:config) and what it looks like is Firefox doesn't handle SSL requests correctly (firefox 23.0.1 ) It DOES have TLS avaialable in about:config, TLS 0 = SSL3, but it doesn't appear to process correctly, event the site itself doesn't seem to render correctly that way (nor will it when a range of TLS max = 3 Min =0 is given ).
Devs - If I may suggest, next time a software change is needed, ask for testers (and yes I'll volunteer ) to vet your changes before they're released. That way most of the major problems can be caught ahead of time. KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ... 13:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I've disabled them, so any that were sent were missed because I have that setting on. Anyrate, it looks like only Firefox is affected as it can't handle SSL 3. (In case anyone's wondering, a javascript is involved with the SSL change over
This one . Turning off javascript won't solve the problem as the re-direct is on wiki's side :) KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ... 16:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Timestamp: 8/29/2013 2:57:19 PM
Error: ReferenceError: hookEvent is not defined
Source File: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-popups.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&570545406
Line: 7678
KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ...
19:02, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I investigated in searching why I was still redirected to https even after having unchecked the checkbox and disconnected-reconnected many times; it is due to the presence of two cookies (names enwikiforceHTTPS) and only one is deleted, so you are still redirected to https (
bugzilla:53536); this happens with Firefox and Opera, I suspect Chrome delete the two cookies (which make the un-https working). Perhaps the second sub-thread here (Kudpung 22:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)) is partly due to this bug (at least the problem to un-https).
A temporary solution is:
and you should stay on http. ~ Seb35 [^_^] [fr] 01:19, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
What is truly galling about this is that there appears to be no way to have a universal opt-out of HTTPS. Everytime I go to a different foreign language wiki, or a different project, it slams me into HTTPS again and I have to go the preferences section of that project to undo it. I don't need the security advantages of HTTPS, which I will admit are real, and it adds a minor irritant when I copy a link in a foreign language wiki and have to manually edit the link before I have the website translated. (Google Translate does not support HTTPS.) Carolina wren ( talk) 04:44, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Every time I go to the reflinks tool I get forced onto the HTTPS version of the site. What's up with that?— Ryulong ( 琉竜) 19:49, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
As of this morning, and not before, I noticed red errors about "Missing or empty URL" and "|accessdate= requires |url=" all over the reference sections of both Audie Murphy and Audie Murphy honors and awards. On the honors and awards page, the very first reference that has the red error about the missing URL, this is the exact citation:
Even on some of the red-errored citations in the main article, if I go in and delete the blanks for URL and Accessdate, it still shows up as errors. Given that these articles have been in 2013 subject to scrutiny by Peer Review, GA Review, and a fairly recent A-Class Review at Military History project, this would have been noticed. I monitor these articles everyday. This just showed up today.
And yet, as I write this the article Audie Murphy filmography does not have the red errors. But it did about half an hour ago. What is going on with the citation templates? — Maile ( talk) 17:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
CS1 citations where |url=
is blank or omitted. The |url=
parameter is required so that |title=
can link to the web resource. To resolve this error, provide a value for |url=
or use a more appropriate CS1 citation.|accessdate=
is the date that the web resource addressed by |url=
was added to the article. If |accessdate=
has been included in the citation without |url=
then this message appears. If the citation does not use a web link, then |accessdate=
is redundant and should be removed.|url=
does not cause this error. --
Gadget850
talk
18:52, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
for a printed source) through typos (such as |dtae=
for |date=
) to the completely unimplemented (such as |printer=
). Detection of all of these problems was implemented several months ago; most error messages were hidden but opt-in. Periodically, some of them have been revealed to all users, with the latest batch being a couple of days ago, which is why you're suddenly seeing them; whereas those (like me) who
opted in already will have been seeing those messages for some time. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:56, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks to all of you for your help and guidance on my resolving this where I have noticed it. — Maile ( talk) 19:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I have already asked, elsewhere, for these warnings to be turned off while the proposed bot fixes the existing errors. They can then be turned on again to warn when new instances of the error occur. @ Redrose64: @ Gadget850: How's that going? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:07, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
The numerous excessive red-error messages, in the wp:CS1 cites, can be re-hidden by fixing Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration to reset each newly activated message, back to "hidden=true" (set "false" on 26 August 2013 by User:Gadget850, see: dif410). For example, the message named by anchor = 'cite_web_url' (which displays "Missing or empty |url=") can again be hidden, as during the past 5 months, by setting the associated variable as "hidden=true". Do a similar reset to hide other messages which are flooding major articles with annoying messages about fixing dozens of URL parameters or other tedious busywork. - Wikid77 ( talk) 21:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Some perspective from someone who has been working on cleaning up these errors for three months:
If all of the people who are complaining about these errors would dedicate some time to fixing them instead, they would be gone in relatively short order. Let's get the red out! – Jonesey95 ( talk) 06:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
We had extensive discussions in April/May 2013, about not showing all those wp:CS1 red-error messages in thousands of major articles, because people were not fixing the errors quickly, even after weeks of watching for cite updates. An ongoing survey of articles with cite-errors confirmed how thousands of editors were actively ignoring the cite-error conditions and merely kept coding {cite_web} or {cite_book} despite the error restrictions having been carefully explained for years in the template /doc pages. In fact, get this: even with the glaring red-error messages showing a cite-error with a big message, some editors were still actively adding cite templates with invalid parameters, willfully refusing to fix the cites to avoid the red-error messages. The result of the discussion was clear: there was no consensus to show the wp:CS1 red-error messages, which did not herd the users to fix the cite parameters, and in fact, the consensus of usage was to allow the "invalid" parameters as a choice of the editors working on each page. People simply did not buy-in to the "you cannot think that way" restrictions in cite parameters. The alternative procedure, to trim the flagged cite parameters, was to quietly log the invalid cases into maintenance categories which some concerned Wikipedians could laboriously update to one-by-one fix the questionable cite parameters in thousands of pages (over 50,000 flagged pages in April). For example, one category where people keeping calling {cite_web} without a "url=" parameter still had over 9,000 pages by August 2013:
The consensus of usage by thousands of editors was basically, "We do not care about mandatory URL parameters" and people kept coding many cite templates with only title, date, author or publisher, plus accessdate (etc.). It is just counterproductive, to fight the consensus of usage, and try to force people to set unwanted parameters by scarring their edits with glaring red-error messages which some of them ignore. - Wikid77 ( talk) 00:16, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
citation_config.error_conditions 'error message'].hidden=true
in
Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration. This then makes the error messages have this styling: <span style="display:none;font-size:100%" class="error citation-comment">$1</span>
.citation-comment {display: inline !important;} /* show all Citation Style 1 error messages */
citation_config.error_conditions 'error message'].hidden=true
in
Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration. This then makes the error messages have this styling: <span style="display:none;font-size:100%" class="error citation-comment">$1</span>
.citation-comment {display: inline !important;} /* show all Citation Style 1 error messages */
Should we turn of the latest batch of error messages, temporarily, until this bot (or another) has completed fixing those that can be automatically resolved? Please comment at Help talk:Citation Style 1#RfC. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I am using the Mobile Wikipedia site but I don't see any templates anymore. I used to see them before and they were useful for navigation for me. Is there any way to enable templates on the mobile Wikipedia site? Skronie ( talk) 03:22, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
<div>...</div>
elements. The software that converts the wiki markup into HTML inserts the appropriate tags as follows:<div id="content_0" class="content_block openSection">
after the page heading</div>
<div class="section">
before each level 2 heading</div>
at the end of the article</div>
into the wiki markup (
as here, but that's unbalanced, so it's removed by software that tidies up unbalanced closing tags, so it doesn't survive into the final page as served. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:44, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
This very same issue occurs on all archived/closed discussions (RfA, XfD, ANI, you name it); the closing template, along with the contents of discussions do not appear. hmssolent\ You rang? ship's log 11:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I tried to view my watch list, but the site told me I was not logged in. I followed the link to log in, [31], and when I entered my account name and password, the site redirected my browser to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:CentralLogin/start?token=1239298853ccbe9a17ca0a2f1f9e1e10 (not the real token). While I don't understand the login mechanism, the redirection to a non-SSL page may indicate a weakness. — rybec 21:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
IE8, Windows 7, Monobook. In the last few days, occasional pages have started not to appear: I go to a page, the elements appear as they're downloaded, but as soon as everything's downloaded, the screen goes white. Completely white, as if the page had no code on it at all! At the same time, I know that things are downloading and not simply cached, since the little bar at the bottom right of the browser says "Downloading imagenamehere.png", "Accessing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pagenamehere", etc., until it displays "Done" once completed. I can view the history page and the edit page fine (although I have to go directly to the URLs, since the tabs don't appear), but if I preview an edit, the screen goes completely white. I have no clue what's causing this, because it's rare — I've only encountered this on four pages, and all of them are just in the last few days:
At first, I thought it was something weird at Commons, so I asked for help at their VP (using Firefox, which didn't have a problem with either Commons page) but was given a snarky response and nothing that helped to resolve the problem. Now that I've encountered it on two vastly different pages here, I have no clue at all what's happening. Nyttend ( talk) 23:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there a means of preventing Visual Editor being used on a page? Something like {{ nobots}}. Every time VisEd is used on Morse code the preformatted text gets screwed. Spinning Spark 00:39, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Last time I edited my common.css, apparently I added this, although I have no memory in doing so:
.mw-editsection-link-secondary { visibility: visible !important; } .mw-editsection-divider { visibility: visible !important; } .mw-editsection-bracket { visibility: hidden !important; }
What exactly does this do? Also, now there seems to be this syntax highlighting thing for the common.css, what's that? Thanks, -- t numbermaniac c 03:03, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I added a {{
Attached KML}}
to
Ladrillero Channel. The route of the Channel is shown, but near the Antarktis. Can any one tell me what is wrong?. I took
Adelaide Avenue as example and changed the names and the coords. --Best regards,
Keysanger (
what?)
16:36, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
{{
GeoGroup}}
described at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#GeoGroup Template URL encoding errors. I think it might be a double
{{urlencode:}}
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:06, 10 September 2013 (UTC)In the Wikipedia Android app (v 1.3.4), the Contact Us link in the app does not work. It tries to navigate to http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:MobileFeedback&feedbacksource=WikipediaMobile%2F1.2, which says "No such special page". Could this be fixed? I had intended to follow this link to leave some feedback about the app itself, specifically the persistent loading of the Article of the Day page upon startup, which can be annoying. Thanks. -- Jameboy ( talk) 20:24, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
An RFC is under way to determine whether or not to create a new user right that would allow trusted template coders to edit fully protected templates: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Template editor user right. equazcion (talk) 10:08, 11 Sep 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, Not sure if I am going mad, or if I have found a bug. I was looking at My de contributions, and a few of my EN edits show up on there. Anyone able to shed any light on this? Thanks, -- Mdann 52 talk to me! 14:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
On 1/12/13 two accounts of mine were merged. User:Kevinrbing & User:Fortmac were merged in this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Fortmac&diff=532770745&oldid=532544335. However, when I go to create a signature on a talk page using \~\~\~\~ kevinrbing appears as the signature instead of fortmac. See here: /info/en/?search=Talk:Katherine_Sheehan or here: Kevinrbing ( talk) 13:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Signed, Kevinrbing ( talk) 13:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there any tool on Labs or Toolserver where an editor can find out how many articles they're contributed to? Not the total edit count per editor, but the article count per editor and/or project article count by editor. I've seen on some user pages where there are claims such as, "I've contributed to over 30,000 articles" or "I've contributed to 7,000 articles on this project" and wonder if that's a personal calculation, or there is some tool that calculates that for them? If there is no tool available to verify such a claim, it seems to me one could claim anything they want about their editing history. — Maile ( talk) 12:53, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
here. Yaan ( talk) 17:04, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
On my watchlist, new edits since I last looked in on a page are showing with a count followed by "since last visit". I've found this to be very helpful and it has made my editing more efficient. Thanks to whoever or whatever made that change. SchreiberBike talk 03:37, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Add the following to your common.css page:
.updatedmarker {
display: none;
}
PS. See Wikipedia:Customizing watchlists for info on letting your watchlist mark updated pages for you. The "updated since" tags are part of that watchlist feature, but most of them were disabled by community consensus. equazcion (talk) 18:36, 9 Sep 2013 (UTC)
I don't see this feature instead. What should I look for? -- cyclopia speak! 12:55, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
$('a:contains("since last visit")').remove();
to
your common.js page. This will remove the "since last visit" links. Only thing is, it will leave an empty "| |" where the link was supposed to be. Shortly after these "since" features were introduced, the developers were beckoned to add code that would make customization easy, and they did -- but you're using a non-default option to "expand" watchlist changes via your watchlist preferences; something that was neglected during these fixes. As a result there's no easy way (that I can see) to cleanly do what you want, but maybe someone else will come along and say there, since I'm so often wrong.
equazcion
(talk) 14:17, 13 Sep 2013 (UTC)
$('.mw-title').parent('td').find(':contains(" since last visit")').replaceWith("");
('.mw-title').parent('td').find
part back and it was all hunky dory again. I'm still working on the | |. I'm hoping to have it in a few more tries.
Technical 13 (
talk)
02:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
$('span.mw-title').parent('td').find('a:contains(" since last visit")').replaceWith('∞'); $('td').each(function(){ $(this).html($(this).html().replace('| ∞ |','|')); });
$('td').each(function(){ $(this).html($(this).html().replace('since last visit','new')); });
I recently edited the page for Crossfire, soon I recieved a rather alarming notification that my edit had been reverted, which was shcoking because it was generally good information (I thought), anyway upon going to the page it seems that someone had deleted only a single line of what I wrote but left the rest. In actuality this wasn't a revert, although the notification system seemed to think it was. While I'm thick skinned enough to deal with the changing nature of Wikipedia, I often hear that newcomers are often intimidate about pages constantly being reverted, I think that will only hamper participation especially if there's a difference between actual revertion and what the system thinks is revertion.
Deathawk ( talk) 23:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
This happens even when I'M NOT LOGGED IN. This began happening two days ago and happens with EVERY article page I visit. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? Please help, thanks Ponorinc ( talk) 03:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm confused by your question. What I'm saying is that when I'm logged out (and logged in as well) all Wikipedia pages I visit are Https automatically. Ponorinc ( talk) 05:52, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
This seems like something that should be reported on Bugzilla, but the instructions say to report the matter here first when in doubt. So, that's what I'm doing.
In any event, I've noticed a problem when moving pages that I don't believe I've noticed before, or at least believe should be fixed. If I navigate away from the Move succeeded page that is displayed after performing a move and then press the back button, the move is attempted again. If the original move didn't require deleting the target page, there's no problem, as you get a screen notifying you that the target article has a history, which requires a confirmation of deletion. However, if the original move did require deleting the target page (so this only comes up if you're an admin), the confirmation to delete the target page is carried over even after you press the back button. The end result is that the article you just moved is now deleted and replaced by a self-referencing redirect.
If that was confusing, let me try to explain that this way:
Say you're trying to move an article from Location A to Location B, which has a history. You might do the following:
Unfortunately, fixing the mistake caused here can be a nightmare. You now have the history of two pages merged in the deleted history. You have to pick out the diffs corresponding to the article you want and restore those. God forbid if both of the articles involved have extensive histories or were of similar sizes (making it hard to pick out which diffs belong with each article). An example of where I made this mistake is at the Lui Chong article (see the deletion log; note two consecutive deletions marked as "Deleted to make way for move").
What should happen is, after you press the back button, you should get some sort of warning that your action will cause the deletion of the article that you just moved to Location B. That could come in the form of the standard red-box warning indicating that the target location [now occupied by the article you just moved] has a history or it could come with a browser-level "Please confirm that you want to resubmit this form" dialog box. However, the way this is handled now doesn't work.
Feedback on this issue, and whether I've posted it in the correct venue, would be greatly appreciated. -- tariqabjotu 05:17, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
When hovering over an article title, a pop-up box appears giving options (edit, history etc.) and the beginning of the lede. If there is an image, the options are moved down the page, the image inserted in the top LH corner and the options then move back up to the underside of the image. This makes selecting an option difficult, as the options are jumping about. When trying to click edit, I frequently hit, and open the image, or the article, as the options are moved down, or "what links here" as they move back up.
About 10 days ago the pop up box changed, moving the image to the right and stabilizing the options, albeit that they were moved to drop down menus requiring a second hover and a click.
About 2 days ago it reverted to the original jumping option. Why was this changed back? Is the stable version going to return? Can it be selected via some code?
Finally why do the options still include "Editors" which leads to a page stating "This tool no longer exists."
Arjayay (
talk)
09:15, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Dear editors: When I first joined Wikipedia, when I received a message on my talk page a large orange notification banner would appear. This has more recently been replaced by a smaller notification (an improvement, since it takes less screen real estate). The old one, however, had a "last change" link. I find with this new notification I often have to search the page history looking for the new message, since the notification doesn't include a last change link and clicking on it doesn't lead to the section of my talk page which holds the new message. Is there a setting that can fix this? If not, is something planned for the future to replace this useful feature? — Anne Delong ( talk) 12:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
div.mw-echo-notification-footer { font-size: inherit; }
Something interesting has happened to this template page. — Anne Delong ( talk) 14:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I hope readers aren't being pounded with the "wiki loves monuments" banner as much as I am... It's quite annoying. If I click X on it once, it shouldn't ever come back. Should it WMF? @ Mdennis (WMF): Greetings Maggie! Biosthmors ( talk) 20:41, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
There was a bit of talk here about Citation expander not working properly--from what I understand (see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 116) this is the thingy that fills in the blanks in the cite book template on the basis of GBooks URL or ISBN. A comment was made there, "The bot's maintainer has set the bot's account to not use SSL for now, as a workaround", but I have no idea what that is supposed to mean--whether a workaround means it's supposed to be working or not. Whatever it is, something's not working, and it's a drag: when that thingy was working it saved me eons of time and RSI. Can someone PLEASE fix this? Thank you. Oh, and while you're at it, can some smart person make something that allows the blanks to be filled in for the cite journal template based on a JSTOR stable URL? It would make my life almost complete. Drmies ( talk) 17:47, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
|jstor=
support is supposed to be an existing feature. Do you have an example of it not working?
LeadSongDog
come howl!
19:58, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
On the user contributions page there is a link to global contributions on the tool server. However that rarely works now. Is the a substitute on the WMFlabs? How do we find the new tools? Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 08:42, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello all,
I seem unable to find a place where this has been answered (if any) and I've been getting an unmanageable number of hits (all way off answering my question) for all keyword combinations I could think of. So in case this had been ansered elsewhere, sorry and could somebody kindly point me to that place.
I am looking for a way to search an article's version log for where a given portion of text was introduced. Example: Who added
<ref>[http://www.br-online.de/bayern2/radiowissen/australien-aborigines-ayers-rock-ID1265712254426.xml Ayers Rock – Der Computer rettet Felsmalereien]</ref>
to
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uluṟu
? (or, for simplicity, when was
Leung, Chee Chee (23 September 2003). "Lulu the kangaroo hops to the rescue". The Age (Australia). Retrieved 10 January 2010.
added to
Kangaroo ?, purpose being in a range of useful advanced actions such as quickly finding the contributor to discuss a detail or ask a question, determining the time a now broken link was added (such as in the de: example) in order to narrow the search for the original source, etc.
I'd like to suggest the answer to my question be entered on the WP search FAQ and/or WP versions FAQ (with creation of said FAQs if they don't exist), and adapting the current FAQ index. As it is, it is hard to tell from the FAQ index which FAQ to look in for the answer in the first place.
Any help appreciated, TIA -- 217.81.188.73 ( talk) 13:32, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I was trying to figure out why Joseph-François Malgaigne has script errors, its because of the template {{Authority control|VIAF=64103543}}. But the template (with the parameters) works on other articles (preview), and in my sandbox. I tried to remove the script error with a null edit, and a normal edit - didn't help.... Some other weird stuff. Go to an article which use the template Authority control, remove all parameters but one from the Authority control, and preview the page, the other parameters still appear on the preview. Christian75 ( talk) 11:33, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
User:RFC bot hasn't made any edits in about 2 weeks. Is there something going on with it? equazcion (talk) 12:23, 14 Sep 2013 (UTC)
I attached a proposed deletion template to a blp, Charlie Jacks, as self-promotion. The seven days notice period is now up, and the deletion has not been opposed. Could an administrator please delete this? -- The Vintage Feminist ( talk) 16:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Many (but not all) times that I load a Reference Desk section to which I added several <math> tags, I see several instances of the texvc error "Failed to parse (unknown error): p=1\%", always for the same subset of my TeX snippets. It seems to be all those that end in a command. (This may of course be a known issue; sorry for the noise if so. I didn't see anything recent about it.) -- Tardis ( talk) 18:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
This edit has not yet appeared on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. (change is however rendered in preview mode). Anyone else having a similar issue? DK qwerty 04:32, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I need to download all the articles that transclude a template.
Is that possible? Or do I need to download the whole 9GB database dump?
The template I'm talking about is transcluded in approx 35K articles, so a lot less than 1% of the total.
So it feels like a huge waste of resources to download the whole database...
Does anybody know if this can be done and how?
Thanks a lot!
Azylber ( talk) 04:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
My watchlist is not showing changes to a page I'm watching. The page is the article Nave, which has had four edits today (two by me a few hours ago), none of which is showing on my watchlist. Neither "hide minor edits" nor "hide my edits" is selected, nor have I made any changes recently to my watchlist options. Any ideas? Eric talk 21:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, is it possible to make an exception from watching by //en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&target=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_116&namespace=0 with something like nonincluded tag? Dominikmatus ( talk) 13:27, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I have reverted the bold change brought about by the creation of:
As noted during the previous discussion, the visual impact of the change is massive when looking at a category with a large number of subcategories—to the point, I would argue, that the cluttered mass of text actively disrupts navigation by competing for attention with (and sometimes overwhelming) the actual subcategory titles.
I am posting this thread to initiate the third phase of WP:BRD. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 04:40, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that the little red Notifications Box next to my user name at the top of the page had the number "4" showing and attempted to check on what they were. But when I place my cursor over the box nothing happens at all. It seems to be totally disabled, even though it's telling me that I have 4 notifications. Everything else on the page is normal, all the other nearby links are working just fine. I even tried logging out and logging back in, just for the hell of it. Aside from wanting to get it working again, I'd also like to know, is there another way to see my notifications in the meantime? Cgingold ( talk) 19:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi. When you edit a javascript or CSS page, there's a toolbar above the editing window and the window itself has syntax highlighting enabled. Is there a way to disable these? I have the editing toolbar disabled already in my preferences but in JS/CSS pages it still shows up. Jafeluv ( talk) 05:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
/*
characters escapes me. I did know what it was for though, because it's the same editor interface that's been used for modules right from the start. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)At Wikipedia talk:WPUS, an editor posted a thread more than half an hour ago - it can be seen on the recent history - but it is not visible on the page. I experimented with posting a test below that, by using the "New Section" tab at the top, and that didn't show up either. Maybe it's something strange in the posting right above it.Arizona Supreme Court Vice Chief Justice W. Scott Bales. That one was autosigned by a bot, but the autosign doesn't appear there either. — Maile ( talk) 22:01, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I have a very simple page at hi:User:Johnuniq/sandbox where the wikitext is a preamble, then a single convert template, then a postamble. The page is blank! Inspecting the html source shows none of the expected wikitext. I don't see any timeout or other indication of an error.
Using
hi:Special:ExpandTemplates to expand the template ({{convert|-10|C|F}}
) yields "−10 °से. (14 °फ़ै.)" and doing a preview after pasting that text into the sandbox shows the page as expected.
The template does not need to be fixed because it will be replaced with a module. I'm just curious about what might cause a page to be blank, with no indication of a reason that I can see. Johnuniq ( talk) 06:53, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
{{formatnum:{{convert/-{{#expr:{{{1}}}<0}}|{{{1}}}}}}}
{{{1}}}
was replaced with -10 (the Celsius value to be converted), what we have here is
{{formatnum:{{convert/-{{#expr:-10<0}}|-10}}}}
→ {{formatnum:{{convert/-1|-10}}}}
{{convert/-1|-10}}
→ -10 and {{formatnum:-10}}
→ -10 but {{formatnum:{{convert/-1|-10}}}}
gives the blank page. So, it's something to do with {{formatnum:}}
in combination with
hi:Template:Convert/-1. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:22, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
{{formatnum:−1}}
" (with a Unicode minus), and that blanks the page! That's beginning to sound like a MediaWiki bug which should be reported?{{convert|0|–|4|C|F}}
Johnuniq (
talk)
11:43, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I think I've found a bug in superimpose
See the map of sites at List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_Oceania
The site in the far South West should be Heard and MacDonald Islands.
The alt text at that point is correct, but the link is to Henderson_Island_(Pitcairn_Islands) instead.
If you look at the source for the map, which uses superimpose,
{{Superimpose2 ...
the lines near that point are:
|float10_caption = Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park |link10 = Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park |x10 = 568 |y10 = 52 |float11_caption = Heard and McDonald Islands |link11 = Heard Island and McDonald Islands |x11 = 26 |y11 = 387 |float12_caption = Henderson Island |link12 = Henderson Island (Pitcairn Islands) |x12 = 687 |y12 = 237
Perhaps the apostrophes in Hawai'i are confusing where the links should go.
Only checked on OS X, but the behaviour appears in firefox, safari and chrome — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newystats ( talk • contribs) 05:51, 16 September 2013
I've already asked at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks in case that might work. Special:Contributions/Coreyemotela moved HIV/AIDS titles to HIV-AIDS titles. Biosthmors ( talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{ U}}) when u sign ur reply, thx 11:18, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
For the last several days I've been experiencing intermittent but frequent slowdowns. Show preview, Save page, refreshing pages, etc., often take much longer than normal to resolve. Is anyone aware of this, looking into it maybe?-- Bbb23 ( talk) 01:01, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Anyone know if it's possible to have underlined characters, like this or perhaps rather like this, and to apply some color to the underlining, without coloring the actual characters? (Might be a solution to the problem discussed here: Talk:Chinese classifier#Underlining.) W. P. Uzer ( talk) 06:57, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
border-bottom
or text-decoration
will be semantically null. Per
underline: "In Chinese, the underline is a punctuation mark for proper names". The HTML5 specification redefined the underline markup <u>...</u>
as "The <u>
element represents a span of text with an unarticulated, though explicitly rendered, non-textual annotation, such as labeling the text as being a proper name in Chinese text (a Chinese proper name mark), or labeling the text as being misspelt."
[34] So there is no need to create a new convention where a standard already exists. --
Gadget850
talk
09:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
<u>
element per Gadget850. If the
CSS Text Decoration Module Level 3 becomes a full W3C Recommendation, and the browser vendors implement it, you'll be able to put bar which will produce a coloured underline on browsers that support it, but will default to underline in the text colour. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
When would it be appropriate to add this tag to a source-less or badly sourced statement? If a reference does not meet some kind of standard why would it's claim me marked this way instead of the statement being deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CensoredScribe ( talk • contribs) 19:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
{{
citation needed}}
is a
template used to identify claims in articles, particularly if questionable, that need a
citation to a
reliable source.Thank you John Broughton; I'm glad to know about these help pages and wikipedia's sourcing policy. CensoredScribe ( talk) 15:56, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Hypothetically is it possible to email ALL editors who have an email on wikipedia or another wiki? Is there an extension that lets you do this? Is there a special page that lets you do this?
Please - I KNOW it is not allowed on wikipedia. Please - This is NOT a discussion about wikipedia rules. This is a technical discussion. I am more interested in doing this on a private wiki.
Thoughts?
Thank you! Igottheconch ( talk) 09:30, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
I misread this in my watchlist as "eliminating all editors on Wikipedia", and got excited. equazcion (talk) 15:45, 17 Sep 2013 (UTC)
Take a look at
Special:Export/Western zone for an example. The redirect goes to a section of the article, but the title
attribute of the redirect
element doesn't reflect that. Is this intended behaviour (and so getting the full article + section name requires parsing the article body)? If so, would it be possible to add an optional section
attribute to the element?
KleptomaniacViolet (
talk)
11:32, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
It has been noted that the files required to implement the consensus at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Default State RFC are actually under control of the Wikipedia community, and that we are not reliant upon WMF to implement the changes. I'm not going to go do this cowboy style without discussion, but what I do need is to actually have a working solution in hand to discuss. The goal is to change common.js so that VE is not displayed to IPs, and to forcibly set the preference for all new accounts to disable.
I tried creating a private common.js that replaced
if ( mw.user.options.values['visualeditor-enable'] === undefined ) { mw.user.options.set( 'visualeditor-enable', 1 ); }
with
if (autoconfirmed() === 0) { mw.user.options.set('visualeditor-enable',0); } function autoconfirmed() { var userGroups = mw.config.get( 'wgUserGroups' ); if ( userGroups ) { for ( var i = 0; i < userGroups.length; i++ ) { if ( userGroups[i] === 'autoconfirmed' ) { return(1); } } } return(0); }
It didn't behave as expected. It disabled VE on my autoconfirmed account (which it should not have) and did so quite insistently. For that particular browser, no amount of common.js deletion, cache clearing, logging in and out, browser restarting, or preference clearing and setting will reenable VE. That would be essentially sabotaging VE, and that's not what I have in mind.
MZMcBride has suggested a common.css implementation, but it doesn't actually set the preference. Once the account hits 10 edits, VE magically switches itself on..
LegoTKM has suggested that I "wrap stuff in mw.loader.using('mediawiki.user', function() { stuff; });
" but I'm not quite sure how to accomplish that.
Any suggestions as to how to fix my base code?— Kww( talk) 21:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
/* Hide VisualEditor for anons and new users */
if ( mw.config.get( 'wgUserName' ) == null || mw.config.get( 'wgUserEditCount' ) < 10 ) {
appendCSS('li#ca-ve-edit, \
.mw-editsection .mw-editsection-divider, \
.mw-editsection .mw-editsection-visualeditor \
{ display: none; }');
}
if (autoconfirmed() === 0)
{
mw.user.options.set('visualeditor-enable',0);
if ( mw.config.get( 'wgUserName' ) != null )
{
mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api', function () {
var api = new mw.Api();
api.get({ action: 'tokens', type: 'options' }).done(function (json) {
api.post({
action: 'options',
change: 'visualeditor-betatempdisable=1',
token: json.tokens.optionstoken
});
});
}
}
function autoconfirmed()
{
var userGroups = mw.config.get( 'wgUserGroups' );
if ( userGroups )
{
for ( var i = 0; i < userGroups.length; i++ )
{
if ( userGroupsi === 'autoconfirmed' )
{
return(1);
}
}
}
return(0);
}
I have a question regarding former accounts. Before my current username, I had two usernames, Boricano75 and Borincano75 (with an 'n'). I incorrectly used a cut-and-paste move when I changed to this username and I want to know if there's a way to get the older contributions to my current account. Erick ( talk) 22:53, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there any toolserver app that could be used to compare two page histories and list the common editors? equazcion (talk) 21:17, 17 Sep 2013 (UTC)
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Where's the "Technical maintenance will be performed soon" banner coming from? MediaWiki:Sitenotice has been blank for two weeks. Nyttend ( talk) 01:22, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Maybe the wrong place to ask this, but are we associated with something called Wikispeak? I just discovered this verbatim oral version on YouTube of a Wikipedia article I've been active on. It's the June 11, 2013 version and really out of date (it was since cleaned up for A-class review). It's also a rather strange electronic voice that omits all block quotes, and hence has some awkward jumps from one place to another. But I was surprised to find this. — Maile ( talk) 16:47, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
What website do you use for formatting/adapting references for Wikipedia?
-- Strower ( talk) 11:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I've enabled the HotCat option in my preference panel, but I do not see any HotCat tool in editing panel. I use Opera 12.15. I've tried it in Firefox 22, but HotCat is not shown there also. Can anyone please tell me what can be the probable cause and solution? -- Ascetic Rosé 16:58, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Hey all,
Here is a copy of the weekly update for the VisualEditor project. This is so that you all know what is happening, and make sure you have as much opportunity to tell us when we're wrong and help guide the priorities for development and improvement:
VisualEditor was updated as part of the wider MediaWiki 1.22wmf14 branch deployment on Thursday 22 August, though many of the changes were made available ahead of this release. In the week since 1.22wmf13, the team worked on fixing bugs and stability and performance improvements to VisualEditor, with some minor work on features.
You can now add and edit <u>
(underline), <sub>
(subscript), and <sup>
(superscript) annotations in experimental mode on MediaWiki.org (bugs
51609,
51612 and
51611 respectively). These, along with the annotations for <s>
(strikethrough) and <u>
(underline) which were released last week will be made available on all wikis once the re-design of the toolbar is complete, to avoid them dominating the buttons that are more normally used.
In terms of bugs, firstly, file inclusions which have empty |link=
parameters are no longer corrupted on save (
bug 51963). A number of issues related to the undo and redo buttons and keyboard shortcuts not applying to the document were fixed (
bug 52113). Inserting an existing reference into the first paragraph in Firefox no longer inserts it at the start of the document, but where your cursor was (
bug 52159). Finally, after a significant re-write of some of the core of VisualEditor, a number of bugs related to text input and selection in various scripts and using various Input Method Editors (IMEs) were fixed (bugs
50105 for Arabic;
50346 for Kannada;
50631 for Korean;
51477 for Devanagari; and
52716 for Japanese).
A complete list of individual code commits is available in the 1.22/wmf14 changelog, and all Bugzilla bugs closed in this period are on Bugzilla's list.
Following the regular MediaWiki deployment roadmap, this should be deployed here on Thursday 29 August.
Hope this is helpful! As always, feedback gratefully received, either here or on the enwiki-specific feedback page.
Jdforrester (WMF) ( talk) 00:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
There use to be a way to get monthly pageviews within a year by changing the YYYYMM part of the URL to just YYYY. E.g., you use to be able to change http://stats.grok.se/en/201308/In_a_World... to http://stats.grok.se/en/2013/In_a_World... and it would yield data points for each month of the year. Is there a way to get monthly pageviews for an entire year anymore?
Also is it possible to get a sorted list of monthly or yearly pageviews of the articles in a category like Category:Wikipedia featured articles, Category:GA-Class Good articles or Category:Wikipedia four award articles.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure who to contact about this, so I hope that you can help or know someone who can.
There seems to be some problems with the PDF output of many wikipedia pages. For example, the page about the Earth ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth), when saved as a PDF using the print/export options within wikipedia, many of the in-text citations are not included in the PDF output, nor are any of the bibliographic references.
I was wondering if this was a technical problem or a known bug, and if it is being addressed? I tried to edit the wikipedia page to see if there were problems with how the citations were input in the text, but everything seems to be fine. The HTML document online looks perfect, it's just the output PDF is missing lots of reference information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustyfairmount ( talk • contribs) 19:28, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
cite xxx}}
template is dropped, whether it's supposed to be Notes or References. Errors begin with the very first item:{{
cite web}}
. There are some items which I can't explain -I was recently using the mobile version of wikipedia.org and noticed an irritating situation. When I am browsing an article's sub-category and then click a link to another article, I eventually will return to the original article I started browsing by clicking the back button on my browser. However, instead of being taken to the exact place I was in the original article I am taken to the bottom of the page with all the sub-categories un-clicked or closed. This is frustrating because some articles have very long sub-categories and it can be extremely tedious when attempting to return to the exact place where I left off (the place where I found the link that took me to another article). If Wiki could somehow change this, so when I hit the back button on my browser the article's sub-categories that I opened are still open and the page will then, when finished loading, take me to the exact place I left the article, it would save me a lot of frustration and time.
I am unsure if this can be fixed by Wiki or if the software and or browser I am using are to blame.
iOS version 6.1.2 (10B146) Mobile Safari browser - Settings: Private browsing is turned off. Javascript is on. Pop ups are blocked. Cookies are accepted only from sites visited. iPhone 3GS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.83.114 ( talk) 04:56, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Template {{ Listen}}} (e.g. on Alice Arnold - see [2]) does not render in our mobile view. Can anyone see why, or say how we might get this fixed? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:26, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
Listen}}
has class="metadata mbox-small"
What we need to do is identify a few other objects which use either or both of these classes, and see how those display. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
metadata
class here, see
User:Redrose64/Sandbox7 - four boxes show in normal view, but only two in mobile view. The two that show are the ones without metadata
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. So, do we:
-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:00, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
<table>
for the box appears four times in normal view: <table class="metadata mbox-small" style="border:1px solid #aaa; background-color:#f9f9f9;">...</table>
<table class="metadata" style="border:1px solid #aaa; background-color:#f9f9f9;">...</table>
<table class="mbox-small" style="border:1px solid #aaa; background-color:#f9f9f9;">...</table>
<table style="border:1px solid #aaa; background-color:#f9f9f9;">...</table>
but only appears twice in mobile view - only the third and fourth (the ones which lack metadata
) are physically present. Therefore, it's not that there are four tables of which two are hidden by CSS (such as display:none;
) - something in the mobile view software is actually removing two of them before the HTML is served.{{
listen}}
to use {{
side box}}
, and the user who put class="metadata"
into {{
side box}}
- both of these were
User:Happy-melon. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:32, 23 August 2013 (UTC)|metadata=
no
to each box. —
Lfdder (
talk)
11:25, 23 August 2013 (UTC)Recently, Happy Melon hasn't edited more than once or twice a month, if that. Can we move on without waiting for their return? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
side box}}
and added the parameter to {{
listen}}
.
Happy‑
melon
11:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
1.22wmf13 brought a new attribute named "mode" to gallery tag. unfortunately i can't update the appropriate help and doc pages (specifically Help:Gallery and Help:Gallery tag) because i'm in a (not very successful) wikibreak. for some reason i did not see any tech bulletin even mentioning it, never mind actually explaining or documenting it. IMO this is a significant improvement to the gallery tag, and it will be a shame if it'll go unused because of lack of documentation. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) ( talk) 16:33, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
On the talkpage of Chelsea Manning, I'm constantly being notified on "conflicts" with... blank space, apparently Crisis. E X E 16:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Could someone please take a look at the infobox in the Human article and determine what has messed it up? There's a lot of bolded wikicode that's broken and visible. Hey mid ( contribs) 20:22, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
<wbr>
is now allowed; see
Help talk:HTML in wikitext#wbr where I have a preliminary description.
Wikipedia:Line-break handling needs to be updated. --
Gadget850
talk
23:03, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
If you go to Special:Permalink/569843617 in normal view, you get an old revision of the page. If you click "Mobile view" at the bottom, you get the current revision. If you're already in mobile view and click Special:Permalink/569843617 you don't get the old version - you get the diff of the edit which created that old version. How can I create a true permalink for mobile view? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 11:04, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
oldid2}}
takes me back to the desktop view, which defeats the object of showing what a specific revision looks like in mobile view. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
23:36, 23 August 2013 (UTC)Meta: I've commented before that we don't have a centralised place to discuss issues with our mobile site. Perhaps this page is adequate, or do we need WP:Village pump (mobile) or some other page? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:30, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Has anybody else noticed that the styling for
preformatted text
has changed?
It's the same for text with a leading space
The border has changed from (I think) 1px dashed #2f6fab
to 1px solid #dddddd
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
21:29, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
#tag:pre
(<
pre>
is actually a parser tag, and not HTML). --
Gadget850
talk
22:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone know how to get the HotCats to work? I've had it for a long time, but then it disappeared and I can't seem to get it back on. I have tried turning it off and on and it doesn't help!-- Sanya3 ( talk) 04:36, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Per the m:Global bans global policy, you are informed of the discussion above. Please comment there and feel free to appropriately distribute more widely in prominent community venues in order to «Inform the community on all wikis where the user has edited». Nemo 10:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
From my experience with government financial charts and manufacturing charts, they are mostly oriented to at least providing tick marks to easily recognize Mon-Fri cycles, and to separate week-end from week-day performance and cycles, ie, 7-days cycles are identifiable. Could someone assess how easy or difficult this would be to put on the Wiki Page Stats Graphs which do not presently utilize them? Can the Wiki graphs take advantage of the time-tested technique of effective graph communication/presentation techniques from industry? 99.140.197.29 ( talk) 13:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
The Preferences pages should be updated, now that pages have section links that used to say "[edit]" now saying "[edit source]", for some editors including the lead, and a tab link that used to say "Edit" now saying "Edit source". I've just edited Help:Section to that effect, except where it discussed Preferences. I can't edit the Preferences pages. Where the updates should be:
(All brackets so in originals.)
Nick Levinson ( talk) 17:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Someone asked me here who was the original editor of an article which is now a redirect. I don't know how to find it out. Can someone help?-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 18:39, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Okay, this may or may not be in the right place (I never know when it comes to the village pump), but why can't we view our own deleted contributions? I don't see any credible reason in why we can't, other than maybe some technical reasons that can be easily solved. Insulam Simia ( talk · contribs) 17:03, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
image array}}
look like garbage on mobileThe mobile version of this site resizes the images in {{
image array}}
after the page loads, which causes the text to misalign itself. Oddly, disabling Javascript causes the template to render correctly. I attached two screenshots—the top is with Javascript enabled, the bottom with Javascript disabled.
This is Safari on my iPhone 4S; I haven't tried any other devices. — Designate ( talk) 17:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I've discovered a three-figure number pages using the Google Maps home page as a reference. Please see this discussion, and others linking directly to specific locations on that site about how to resolve this. Some scripting assistance may be required. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:20, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
New features
<wbr>
HTML5 tag to say where a word can be cut. (
52468)
[7]wikipage.content
hook, so that your scripts are re-run when a page is changed after the document-ready
event (for example using Ajax). (
30713)
[8]Problems fixed
VisualEditor news
<references>
block. (
51741)<s>
tag), lower text (
<sub>
), upper text (
<sup>
), underlined text (
<u>
), computer code (
<code>
and <tt>
), math text (
<math>
),
Egyptian hieroglyphs (
<hiero>
), and to say that text is in another language (
lang="ar" dir="rtl"
). (
51609,
51612,
51611,
51590,
51610,
52352)Future
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19:56, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello. In about the last 24 hours, my HotCat has been disabled. I tried removing it from my Preferences and re-storing it, but to no avail. Is there something else I should do? Thx. -- Rosiestep ( talk) 23:07, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm trying to go through the WP:MED stub-class high-importance articles, looking for a project to address unnatural appetites, and I'm doing some cleanup on the way. When I go back to the page, though, the assessment grid doesn't update (i.e. stub/high still shows 21 hits including Developmental milestones which is now a redirect rather than an article. Do these update on a schedule? 71.231.186.92 ( talk) 04:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
What happened to the summary "preview" of categories? It used to be that one could see a quick summary along the lines of "(12 C, 68 P, 3 F)", indicating that the category contained 12 subcategories, 68 pages, and 3 files. Now, it appears as "(12 categories, 68 pages, 3 files)", leading to a monstrous mass of black text any time that a category contains a large number of subcategories (e.g. Category:Years in baseball). I strongly recommend reverting to the old format. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 18:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
.CategoryTreeItem span[dir="ltr"]
(based on a cursory look at the source code), although it feels hacky.
Theopolisme (
talk)
15:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Slowness for hours this morning in loading English Wikipedia pages (to fully load, that is, one tab very slowly appears on the page, then the next one slowly appears, slowly, slowly). Also, Commons repeatedly times out before it can load. Wikisource and other languages Wikipedia seem to load fine. — Maile ( talk) 15:36, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
What's the way, if any, around this unknown parameter flag, e.g: "
Albert Boime (2004). "William Holman Hunt's The Scapegoat: Rite of Forgiveness/Transference of Blame". In Ellen Spolsky (ed.). Iconotropism: turning toward pictures. Bucknell University Press.
ISBN
978-0-8387-5542-6. {{
cite book}}
: Unknown parameter |isbn10=
ignored (
help)" ? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk)
20:03, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
|isbn10=0838755429
. It has never been a valid parameter; the guidance at {{
cite book}}
is to give just the ISBN-13 in the
|isbn=
parameter. This is one of those perennial questions at
Template talk:Cite book and other pages. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
22:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I noticed recently on Talk:Chelsea Manning that I was getting edit conflicts while section editing, even though the edits that conflicted with mine were to a different section. I don't recall noticing this before, and Help:Edit conflict still says it shouldn't happen. Does anyone know whether something has changed? SlimVirgin (talk) 22:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
What's the best way to bring this to the attention of people who can fix it? I experienced seven edit conflicts and two saves that didn't take last night while trying to edit a section of Talk:Chelsea Manning. I would normally have given up but persevered to see how long it would take to get the edit saved. When I checked the history, seven people had indeed edited the article, but only three had edited that section. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:27, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Helder 12:05, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Reported SlimVirgin (talk) 01:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
It seems that Google Maps are retiring their Wikipedia layer. I'm awaiting confirmation, but if true, that's very sad. I was involved in liaison with Google to get that set up to use {{ Coord}}, some years ago, and people I've showed it to have always found it useful. The problem is, Google kept it hidden away, so I wouldn't be surprised if stats showed that people didn't use it much - at least not as much as they might have done.
It strikes me that we could re-purpose some of the code used to generate Special:Nearby, and get it to spit out KML , whose URL could be passed to Google Maps, or any other KML-aware system.
Is that do-able? Or should we be building our own equivalent of the Google Maps layer, using OSM tiles on our own server? User:Kolossos did something like that, but it seems to be using an out-of-date or otherwise in complete data set - even so, switch (under "Optionen") to English or your language of choice. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:43, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I want to convert some data from a free (NO COPYRIGHT CLAIMED UNDER TITLE 17 U.S.C) pdf table [18] to a wikitable. Is there a tool for?. --Best regards, Keysanger ( what?) 09:32, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm having some problems with Wikipedia using Opera Mini on my phone. Does anyone know what's wrong?
The first time I typed in the URL, I got the mobile edition of Wikipedia over an HTTP connection, although I explicitly typed in HTTPS and used the option to disable the mobile edition. The second time, I got the desktop edition over HTTPS as requested. Why didn't I get this the first time too? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 21:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
This is a notification that the Unblock Ticket Request System will be migrating to WMF Labs on Sept 7th, 2013. A redirect will be set up on the current toolserver account. For any questions, please contact me on my userpage.--v/r - T P 02:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm trying to do a null edit on Template:Infobox officeholder to update its TemplateData but I keep getting
whats going on?-- Salix ( talk): 06:33, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I guess I have already invented a template for posting official video of our major sporting events. This one:
which is on 2013 World Championships in Athletics – Men's Marathon
but there is no Template formatting. With each of these postings, there will always be the topical component of the appropriate video link. So I don't know how to insert topical information within a template.
The reason I am thinking it needs to be a template is because of layout issues (at least as seen from my browser) when the video template aligns with other templates, its smaller margin and lack of template size formatting allows other template and infobox formatting to overlap text as in 2013 World Championships in Athletics – Women's 5000 metres#Records. I would think a force width or better yet a hidden forced width with blankspace would prevent that kind of error from happening, but I don't see anywhere in the code where widths are set. This is more complext Template/Wikiformatting than I understand. Help needed. Trackinfo ( talk) 10:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
WP:CfD/2013 August 28 - Category:Wikipedians by gender and subcats is something everyone should read. The decision to participate is all yours and I don't care one way or the other if you do or don't and if you do I don't care if you support or opposed. I'm only posting this here so that you will be aware and take any action you deem appropriate. Thank you. Technical 13 ( talk) 15:22, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedians who use Microsoft Windows needs to be deleted per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 August 20#Category:Wikipedians who use Microsoft Windows. Can someone please either empty it, or tell me what to do here? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
"the category's existence basically is incidental to transclusions of {{ User:Technical 13/Userboxes/OS}}."
Looks like the latest software update has caused the "Math" section (under the "Appearance" tab) in users' Preferences to appear in the local wiki language instead of in the language chosen by the user (for me, that's English). I started seeing this just now in my non-English Wiktionary accounts (I can say it wasn't happening even 24 hours ago), but I see it's also happening in the Russian Wikibooks (an arbitary non-Wiktionary wiki I decided to try). Can someone please verify that this is true for them and then report it at Bugzilla? (I know I could do it myself, but frankly I detest Bugzilla's user interface, and I refuse to use it.) - dcljr ( talk) 07:19, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Right now a tool I use is broken by MediaWiki Bug 32013. Why in the world do I need yet another id and logon to report this? Does the WMF want to discourage more editors with this garbage? Vegaswikian ( talk) 20:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
*.wikipedia.org
then click Add. Now click Close, Ok, Ok, and there you go. —
Dispenser
04:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Modern Skin, Firefox 23.0.1, Windows XP. Visual Editor temporarily disabled. The drop down menus on the tabs at the top are completely gone. When I pull up a page, the viewing tabs at the top do not populate across the page the way they used to. We used to have "Page" tab, with a drop down menu. Now it's just "History", and you have to actually click on History to go to another view and see tabs for what used to be in the drop down menu. Most annoying, when I'm on my own user page, I no longer see a "User" tab with the drop down selections, such as Userspace, Contributions, etc. and I don't see any way of quickly accessing those options. That's what's the most annoying, because it was a handy way to jump to one's own user subpages. What has happened now? If I open in Opera, the drop down menus are there as they should be. This is specific to Firefox. — Maile ( talk) 23:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
— I'm on Google Chrome, Windows 7. – Wbm1058 ( talk) 01:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
this has nothing to do with the https deployment". As I stated above, I'm using Chrome, not Firefox. I definitely, not probably, noticed this because the link · Edit count · at the bottom of Special:Contributions/Wbm1058 changed from this to this. Was changing that link not part of https deployment? Can I change that link in my user preferences? What does Cyberpower678 have to do with that tool? The X!'s Edit Counter home page says that it is a "Script maintained by the xlabs team" (whoever that is). Can that team fix their script to make it secure? Ideally, that should have been done before the link was changed, to make the change transparent to end-users. Wbm1058 ( talk) 15:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
To address the issue of the tool's 'owner', I maintain that I inherited the and do not own them and I've taken part in the process, led by Cyberpower, to migrate these tools to labs. I've joined a team, of sorts, that Cyber has termed xlabs and so as these tools move to labs, I am abdicating any sort of psuedo ownership I gained while hosting open source tools that I didn't even design and barely maintained. I'm definitely okay with any changes to the tools as long as it's a team decision and I've address that with Cyber already.--v/r - T P 02:23, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
@ Cyberpower678: I was about to try making a screen shot, but now the report is really messed up. A recent attempt to fix something? Now I get this:
— Wbm1058 ( talk) 16:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
@ Cyberpower678: Hey, I see now that "Wbm1058&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia does not exist." Apparently someone took down my data to protect me from myself ;) Maybe we should debug this in a less visible place? My bot's reports still work, but maybe it's not safe to upload screen shots? Wbm1058 ( talk) 16:22, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Open call for questions. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 12:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
There is an ongoing RfC going on at Category talk:Wikipedians#RfC: Is this category and current subcategories appropriate for Wikipedia that readers of this Village pump may be interested it. Technical 13 ( talk) 12:45, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Could there be a way to hide bots from view in the block log? This has been mentioned once before by User:Jasper Deng, but nobody ever replied. Thanks, Insulam Simia ( talk · contribs) 15:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Could I please get Palmetto Education Association decoupled from my sandbox. I want to start drafting a new article, and when I make edits in my sandbox they also edit the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eirefrance ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
On articles like .hack, .NET Framework, .htaccess, and .com, the Vector sidebar's sections sometimes fail to be collapsible, and User:Js/6tabs-vector always fails to work (actually, I am using a version modified to handle the VisualEditor tab, but switching back to the official version makes no difference). My vector.js itself is loading fine, as demonstrated by making it add a dummy link to the toolbox.
When viewing the offending pages, Firefox's Error Console shows a message like
Error: mw.Title: Could not parse title ".htaccess"
https://bits.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.centralNotice.bannerController%7Cext.uls.i18n%2Cime%2Cinit%2Cinterface%2Clanguagenames%2Cpreferences%2Cwebfonts%7Cext.uls.webfonts.repository%7Cext.visualEditor.viewPageTarget.init%7Cext.wikimediaShopLink.core%7Cjquery.client%2Ccookie%2CdelayedBind%2Ci18n%2CjStorage%2Cjson%2CmwExtension%2Ctipsy%2Culs%2Cwebfonts%7Cjquery.uls.data%2Cgrid%7Cmediawiki.Title%2CUri%2Capi%2Cnotify%2Cuser%2Cutil%7Cmediawiki.legacy.ajax%2Cwikibits%7Cmediawiki.libs.pluralruleparser%7Cmediawiki.page.startup%7Cskins.vector.js%7Cwikibase.client.init&skin=vector&version=20130829T195454Z&*
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Discussion elsewhere suggests that this is related to the secure login feature, but I'm not sure how that applies to me: I had already been using the secure server (enforced by HTTPS Everywhere), I'm not getting any mixed-content warnings, and other pages don't have the problem. What should be done about this? -- SoledadKabocha ( talk) 20:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC) (+ 20:27, 29 August 2013 (UTC))
This may be a temporary problem, but I can't watchlist or de-watchlist any page right now. Clicking on the star, either an error message box appears (saying an error occurred when trying to change the watchlist settings) or the star just spins forever and nothing happens. I use the regular Wikipedia server (i.e. the non-secure one). I tried clearing the browser cache, but that didn't help. Hey mid ( contribs) 21:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
The https change, or something else, appears to have broken the Citation Expander gadget, at least for me, at least on Firefox for Mac. I have unchecked the https setting, logged out, logged back in, quit Firefox and started it again, but I have still been unable to make the Citation Expander gadget work. I have reported this bug.
Is it working/broken for anyone else? Is there something I can do to fix it for myself? – Jonesey95 ( talk) 05:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
The bot's maintainer has set the bot's account to not use SSL for now, as a workaround. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 13:41, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I am an active wiki editor on Ancient Egypt subjects and work a lot on articles that typically do not garner much views, for example on obscur pharaohs of the first and second intermediate periods (typical example Mersekhemre Ined or Intef I). Being curious about the number of views such articles get and how this depends on the number of links to these articles, I regularly use the Page View Statistics tool to access the number of views. I noticed that for very rarely visited articles, even orphan or near orphan articles (e.g. see Helwan retouch and its page view stats), the number of daily visits always fluctuates around at least 2-3 a day. Now this is rather striking: are there really 2-3 people a day researching the Helwan retouch ??
Instead, I believe that much of these views are actually bots accessing the page (maybe from google or other search engines, or from wikipedia itself). Thus, I can summarize my question as follows: for articles with very little views, can we distinguish bot views from real humans accessing the article? Is it possible to estimate the real traffic that these articles garner?
I tried to find studies on articles with very few visits but did not find any (so many pages are devoted to the most visited wikipedia articles and so little is devoted to the numerous articles with very few visits). In particular, this "bot view noise" obscurs the real impact of these articles and does not help increase their visibility (how awesome would it be to be able to distinguish which wiki-link led a reader to a given article). Because of this, in the end, I can't even say if there is at least one human per month interested in e.g. Pepi III or Senusret IV... Iry-Hor ( talk) 09:06, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I'm having some trouble using Wikipedia through HTTPS. Whenever I visit a new page, I get the following message: "WikiPage: Couldn't parse page name from url ' /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)'". I can still view & edit the site, but this dialogue box pops up for every page, and I need to close it before I can continue. Does anyone know why this happens and how I can fix it?Thanks, ItsZippy ( talk • contributions) 10:56, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Recently the Green Delta to link to the improved diff display has vanished from my diff pages. When searching for instructions about "Improved diff" to see if there was an error in my setup, I found that there apparently aren't any instructions in the Wikipediea: or Help: pages. Two questions:
Anyone who uses the EasyBlock script having issues? Mine doesn't seem to be working, though a computer reboot or cache clear I'm thinking may do the trick (if it's just me). Or could it be the https update that is doing it? – Connormah ( talk) 07:20, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
The new Code Editor is badly broken. I use Firefox with text zoomed to +225%, witch makes the Code Editor utterly unusable, yet there is no obvious way to turn it off. I also often use an external editor (via It's All Text), but the CE makes even that unworkable by randomly moving its icon around.
Between this and VE and the upcoming Flow crapfest, I've had enough. WMF can go fuck itself for all I care. I'm out if here. (At least until things shape up, start functioning properly and let me choose the way I edit.) — Wasell (T) 07:30, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi,,
I have been directed to here after asking about this on live chat. The things they said to do which did not result in a fix are as follows:
Look on the side for the small minimised tab Look under the toolbox for curate this page I have also tried with another browser.
Why is there no curator bar for me?
Thanks :) MrBauer24 ( talk) 15:12, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
The url converter script user:js/urldecoder.js is no longer working. It works if I take the "s" out of the "https" at the start of the url. The author has not edited since May 2012, so I'm not sure posting on his talk page will be of any use. Thanks, -- Diannaa ( talk) 18:22, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Where we have a {{
Coord}} template in an article with |display=title
, the coordinates, usually seen at the top of the desktop view, are not visible in our mobile view. (This is also true of the title coordinates when |display=inline,title
is applied, but this is less of an issue as the coordinates are displayed elsewhere on the page). For example, compare the desktop view of
Casa Milà with
its mobile view. How can we fix this?
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits
12:48, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
|display=title
does appear in the page source, at the point where they would appear if the {{
coord}}
had been given |display=inline
.<p>
<span id="coordinates">Coordinates:
<span class="geo-nondefault">51°44′04″N 1°14′54″W</span> /
<span class="geo-default">51.7344°N 1.2482°W</span>
</span>
</p>
href=
and title=
attributes of the <a>
<span>
tags have been condensed for clarity. So, it's fixable in CSS for this site, without involving the devs --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
coordinates
and two classes geo-nondefault
and geo-default
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:08, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
.geo-nondefault, .geo-multi-punct { display: none; }
Apparently, .mobile #coordinates
is hidden by MobileFrontend intentionally (with the remark "/* TODO: style for mobile */"). Now we have to ask, do we want it unhidden, and so, where do we put it? —
Edokter (
talk) —
19:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
geo-nondefault
class is the least important of the three identifiers that I gave above... it's supposed to be display:none;
because {{
coord}}
outputs both the decimal and dms forms; the one that is intended to be visible is given class="geo-default"
and the other gets class="geo-nondefault"
which hides them. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
#coordinates
, which contains .geo-default
. Unhiding it shows coords at the top of mobile view, but is dependend on template placement. All we need to do is find a good spot for it using absolute positioning, and unhide it in Mobile.css. —
Edokter (
talk) —
10:29, 27 August 2013 (UTC)FYI there are now two globes in the mobile alpha with slightly different outcomes when you click on them (albeit the alpha one is broken as a patch didn't get merged in time). We should merge these concepts as that is very confusing! I'd suggest we discuss this on mobile-l mailing list as many developers don't follow Village pump? I think the beta solution TheDJ has created is much less prominent as it should be and preferable. My only real concern with the beta (and desktop in general) is not everyone understands what longitude and latitude coordinates are. They should at least be clickable to some mobile optimised map or some kind of explanation before we push that to stable. Jdlrobson ( talk) 14:38, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Can I ask a technical question here? If so here's my Q: I'm currently using {{break|1}} in template code to space down a line. But it is spacing down more than I want. And not using {{break|1}} doesn't position where I want either. So it seems something inbetween might be right. So is there any way to space-down half a line? Thanks. Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 00:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
Algebraic notation}}
. But why not just leave out the {{
break|1}}
from that template? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:54, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
<table>
or <div>
; and differing box-model methods for relative positioning - margin or padding; and different measurement units (px or em); then the border has to be taken into account. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I had a very weird experience on page Motorik. There is a link to play a MIDI file from Commons that led to file upload wizard when I first opened the page. I thought about removing it since it leads to a dead file, but checked the history and saw it was added 3 days ago. I tried to go to the file directly ( ), but it didn't appear in the suggestions in the search bar. I went to Commons then and found it. So I edited the original page and clicked Show preview. Link was still dead. I then copy-pasted the title from the Commons page (Motorik rhythm.mid) into the corresponding template on the Motorik page. Clicked Show preview and, hey presto, it works! I clicked Show changes and Wiki didn't find any differences, so I clicked Save, checked the history and my edit didn't appear. The link was now working, however, and it still is now (at least for me). Why in the world could this happen?! 93.139.59.230 ( talk) 01:18, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Given the newly created Wikipedia:Million Award, how can we request that the page view stat tool present monthly and yearly pageview totals? It will save everyone lots of work totalling month by month data.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:59, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
When I click "Report" at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship I get the following error:
Is this the right place to report this error? (I don’t have a bugzilla account). Thanks in advance, X Ottawahitech ( talk) 03:26, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Extended content
|
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<!--Loading Peachy (version 2.0 (alpha 5))... Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'CURLError' with message 'cURL Error (3): <url> malformed' in /data/project/xtools/Peachy/HTTP.php:175 Stack trace: #0 /data/project/xtools/Peachy/Init.php(182): HTTP->get('//en.wikipedia....', Array) #1 /data/project/xtools/Peachy/Init.php(153): Peachy::wikiChecks('//en.wikipedia....') #2 /data/project/xtools/public_html/rfa/index.php(36): Peachy::newWiki(NULL, NULL, NULL, '//en.wikipedia....') #3 {main} thrown in /data/project/xtools/Peachy/HTTP.php on line 175 |
I have a useful tool in my sidebar toolbox called Regex editor, which I use to store a lot of commonly used stuff like template code and so on. I have no idea how I got it. Since about yesterday none of my stored regexes appear. Can anyone tell me where the tool comes from, or who made or maintains it, or where it stores the stuff saved in it, or whether I have any chance of recovering my saved stuff? Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 11:53, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. I've probably got about thirty templates and other things stored in your excellent regex editor. It would not be unthinkable to copy them over to the https version by simply copy-pasting between pages. However, if you happen to be able to give me similar guidance on where to find the data in Safari 5.1.9 (OS 10.6.8), then that would save me some time. Either way, thank you. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 20:48, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
The page at
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Justlettersandnumbers/toolbox&action=edit ran insecure content from
http://meta.wikimedia.org/?title=User:Pathoschild/Scripts/Regex_menu_framework.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript.
", just in case that helps.
Justlettersandnumbers (
talk)
11:10, 1 September 2013 (UTC)I have never gotten it to work fetching info for a book from an ISBN but it always fetched data for journal articles from DOIs and at least the titles of webpages from URLs. Now, nothing at all. I am using Firefox 23.0.1, if that makes any difference. -- Brainy J ~✿~ ( talk) 13:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
The backlink for reference lists has been restored from the custom ^ caret to the default ↑ up arrow. See Help talk:Cite messages#An arrow ↑ or a caret ^?. You may have to purge a page for this to show up.
References
-- Gadget850 talk 22:22, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
span.mw-cite-backlink a { padding 0 6px; }
Thanks for the new line numbering facility when editing .js
files. Up to now, I've had to recourse to an external tool when receiving error messages about a bug in "line 242
". Don't need that any more, thanks to the numbering. The only disadvantage is the loss of the use of the browser search function, since replaced by the edit-box search function. --
Ohc
¡digame!¿que pasa?
01:54, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Since a few days ago, the Edit Summary field no longer provides previously used summaries. These previously used would show up as I started to type characters in the Edit Summary field that matched previous summary beginning characters. Did something change in WP or was it because I had a regular Microsoft Windows fixes and patches installed on my machine? How can I get this memory of summaries back? Hmains ( talk) 17:55, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
I found the root cause of this problem. It is described here and here. It sounds like IE long ago implemented a simplified 'security step' (probably because they didn't have secure storage for this information on you computer back then) and they were never motivated to implement it in a different way. Not sure if we can do anything about this, but i'll ask around. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I have a couple questions about templates, plus a meta-question - is this the best place to ask about template syntax?
The template {{ CBB roster}} has a field for weight. While there is no rule against listing weights for women, in practice it isn't done (I just manually checked almost all uses of the template for women's teams) I'd like to add an option to suppress this field, and think the best way to do it is to use the existing parameter for sex, and suppress the field when sex=w.
I think I should use the #switch option. (or maybe #ifeq, because I only have two options?) I need to read up on how to do that, but before I do, I wanted to see if there was a preferable way of handling such a situation.
The second question is related. If I suppress the weight column in the header template, I need to do something with the Player template {{ CBB roster/Player}}. That template doesn't have the sex parameter so my question is, do I have to add a parameter and make sure they are coordinated, or is there a way for the Player template to use a parameter passed to the Header template (The Player template will never be used in practice without a header template)-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 20:13, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
{{#switch:{{lc:{{{sex|}}}}} | w | f | woman | women | womyn | dames | girl | girls | sugar and spice and everything nice | γυνή | xx | ♀ | female = for god's sake, don't put a woman's weight on Wikipedia!}}
Van
Isaac
WS
Vex
contribs
23:24, 30 August 2013 (UTC)Not using VE I made a comment on a talk page here and some material got deleted that I had not touched, this was after being edit conflicted. When I re-added this something else disappeared. I do not tamper with other users coments and did not remove either of those statements by accident and am concerned something went wrong technically. Good thing I checked the 1st diff. Any ideas?. Thanks, ♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 00:43, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I've found that HotCat isn't working for me. It's been 7 days that HotCat isn't working for me. I've modified my preference for 5 times and cleared my browser's cache too. Can anyone give me a solution? For your help I've given an attachment here.-- Pratyya (Hello!) 14:44, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) 08:47, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
border-bottom:
property. If you're interested in the details, they're in
Template:Fake heading which applies the appropriate styling to a <div>...</div>
element instead of to <h2>...</h2>
- with the aim of making something that looks like a section heading without actually being one. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:44, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
After a few days away the auto-complete function of my subject header/edit summary fields has vanished. Is this a Wikipedia issue or a browser issue? I'm on the latest version of IE btw. Giant Snowman 11:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
To answer my own question - there's a tick-box on 'My preferences' which switches it back to non-secure, and has restored all my auto-complete settings. Giant Snowman 14:36, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
The "revision history statistics" link to Wikimedia Tool Labs which appears on page histories is currently serving up blank pages: e.g. [22]. Examining source shows
<!--Checking for updates... Peachy is up to date. --><!-- Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'CURLError' with message 'cURL Error (3): <url> malformed' in /data/project/xtools/Peachy/HTTP.php:175 Stack trace: #0 /data/project/xtools/Peachy/Init.php(182): HTTP->get('//en.wikipedia....', Array) #1 /data/project/xtools/Peachy/Init.php(153): Peachy::wikiChecks('//en.wikipedia....') #2 /data/project/xtools/public_html/WebTool.php(110): Peachy::newWiki(NULL, NULL, NULL, '//en.wikipedia....') #3 /data/project/xtools/public_html/WebTool.php(48): WebTool::loadPeachy() #4 /data/project/xtools/public_html/articleinfo/index.php(10): WebTool->__construct('ArticleInfo', 'articleinfo') #5 {main} thrown in /data/project/xtools/Peachy/HTTP.php on line 175
Does anyone know whether this do to a malformed link, a tool labs bug or what? NE Ent 14:26, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Précis: We should use sort keys to transform Category:Hidden categories into an at-a-glance index to all administrative backlogs.
Full proposal: Our list of administration categories as seen at the aforementioned category ( random example) is sorted by month name, which makes it vastly less useful. Here's how the content of Category:Monthly clean up category (Articles lacking reliable references) counter appears:
As you can see, extremely difficult to quickly assess. On the other hand, if we sort by year, then month, like this:
Suddenly, it starts providing an at-a-glance overview of each type of administrative category. And something immediately jumps out - an article that's been tagged since 2005, but was otherwise buried in a mess of categories. (See if you can spot it in the first example.)
I believe that this could be accomplished by setting numeric sort keys of the form yyyy-mm in each template that provides an administrative category. That in turn would require some logic in {{ Ambox}}.
To me, this is a quick win in terms of improving our interface to the ever-growing mountain of administrative backlogs, and we should get on the case with it. — Scott • talk 12:18, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}
s in the linked diff with the applicable variables and I believe that would work...
Theopolisme (
talk)
13:20, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
__HIDDENCAT__
magic word, which doesn't have provision for a sort key. You need to trace through nested subtemplates to find it: {{
Monthly clean-up category}}
→ {{
Monthly clean-up category/outer core}}
→ {{
Monthly clean-up category/core}}
→ {{
Wikipedia category}}
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
13:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
This is not a problem with me, because it just amounts to bringing the article up anew, rather than re-loading. But not for the first time since the change, I'd had an article open for an extended time and did the "re-load" at the top of the page. I got "problem loading" on the tab, and this message in the body:
Doesn't happen a lot, but I think Firefox is confused sometimes by the change. — Maile ( talk) 23:08, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, have been away for a week and the script for adding links into the left-hand menu (monobook) no longer appears to be operating. I use a version of User:Jsimlo/shortcuts.js. Anyone any ideas as to what has changed to cause this to not operate. Thanks. Keith D ( talk) 11:47, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
What is going on at Sulle sathya? The wikicode for the page and the multiple issues container appears fine, but for some reason the tags on the top of the article repeat themselves in a rather broken fashion several times. -- TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 14:45, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
When I tried to add a script to my javascript page, the WikEd toolbar appears but there's no edit window to use (OS Windows XP, browser FF 23.0.1). No change when I purge the cache, and I've opted out of VE. Thanks and all the best, Mini apolis 23:41, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
I have been trying to optimize the wording that relates to feature requests over at WP:WMF. I see from here that one submits a feaure request by selecting "enhancement" for severity once one is reporting a bug in Bugzilla. Category:Wikipedia feature requests currently says "To post a feature request, please visit Wikipedia:Bugzilla or Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). This is a collection of ideas that have been put forward as Wikipedia requests for new software features. Feedback on these ideas is encouraged." (I tagged the feedback sentence with where?. Where would that feedback go?) Is there any consensus on whether WP:VPP, WP:VPI, or WP:VPT is the best place to discuss potential feature requests when people don't have enough information to go to Bugzilla yet? Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) 15:55, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I've never experienced this problem before: I don't, however, think it's related to the http/https change, because it's not only happening on WMF projects (although it is at its worst here) – if I have two or three browser windows open (Pale Moon 20.3 on Windows 7), every so often the browser windows get jumpy and become shuffled up in the wrong order. Although this happened a few times over the weekend, it has now happened 50+ times already today. Perversely enough, the same thing is happening on an acquaintance's computer with Firefox 23.0.1 on Windows Vista; also mostly whilst surfing/searching on WMF pages (but may I stress, not just here – only the majority of the time). Any tips on what it could be and/or what I can do? Jared Preston ( talk) 13:25, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm interested to tweak a wonderful script I've recently begun using: User:Symplectic_Map/AutoSpell. Most of what I want to do is simple enough, like removing a couple of the misspellings that return false positives and changing the edit summary a little. The one thing I don't have the JavaScript knowledge to do, however, is to make it so it ignores words surrounded by dashes, hyphens, or %20s (in other words, to skip over URLs). Is there someone that might be able to help me with that? The specific script that I think it would concern would be User:Symplectic_Map/script.js or perhaps User:Symplectic_Map/spell.js. Thanks. -- Rhododendrites ( talk) 14:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
MOVED TO meta:Talk:Privacy_policy#Collection_of_.22unique_device_identification_numbers.22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.185.183 ( talk) 20:48, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Anyone noticed that ClueBot NG is down? Insulam Simia ( talk · contribs) 18:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Over the last few hours I've noticed something odd about this File usage list: it's lengthening, not shortening. To make sure I wasn't mistaken, I made a note of the entries from A to F, which totalled 15; later on, I refreshed the list to find that there were now 16. Checking my notes, I found that the extra entry was Formentera which seems to have been added with this edit. I made a WP:NULLEDIT; which correctly removed it again. The effect of the null edit I understand; the effect of the true edit I do not.
Until yesterday,
File:Wikivoyage favicon.svg was in that article, due to the use of {{
Wikivoyage-inline}}
; but that template was edited
23 hours ago to replace the image with the new one for Wikivoyage: I would expect the File usage list to shorten, not lengthen. How can the job queue be so badly out of step? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:29, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
This is a quick notice to inform the contributors of this village pump that there is a WP:RfC being conducted at WT:Templates for discussion#RfC: Should Userbox templates in Template: space be nominated at TfD or MfD that I think you may be interested in. Happy editing! Technical 13 ( talk) 21:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I'd like someone with the know-how to create a form so that editors wishing to make a new disambiguation page can just plug in a few terms and have the page automatically generated. Basically, I'd like a form with a field for the ambiguous term, and any number of fields for the list of articles that are ambiguous to that term, and a separate field for inputting brief description of the listed articles. I would also like this form to automatically generate the formatting where names of albums and films are entered, (e.g. [[Avatar (film)|''Avatar'' (film)]]). Can this be done? bd2412 T 15:52, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
For subjects with no primary topic:
Foo may refer to:
{{disambiguation}}
For subjects with a primary topic, where the disambiguation page is at "Foo (disambiguation)":
Foo is a kind of bar. It may also refer to:
{{disambiguation}}
GA bot ( talk · contribs), which keeps the list of good article nominations at WP:GAN up to date, has recently been turned off due to its maintainer, Chris G ( talk · contribs) no longer having the time to support it. The source code is online here, and in theory I've got the technical chops to take this over and test it with a sandbox copy of MediaWiki, but I don't know the first thing about running it live and supporting it. Can anyone help out?
The relevant discussion is here Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:13, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Could someone give me a link so I could read about this new feature? Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) 09:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
It seems that our {{ Authority control}} template is not showing on our mobile view. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
<th>...</th>
and the border-left of the <td>...</td>
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
11:40, 5 September 2013 (UTC)Hey folks! I know I can customize an edit notice at a Special:EmailUser page.
My question is: can I add a preload to the edit box at that page some way (like using &preload= in the url )?
Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 14:03, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Rather than attempt to pick one picture to illustrate the Middle Ages, I've picked five and am using {{ Random subpage}} to load the images into the blurb. Can anyone see any technical issues with this? Ought I to include a {{ purge}} in there too or will different people get different images when they visit anyway? Thanks in advance for your help. Bencherlite Talk 15:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
There are many, many people who have put themselves in the various categories for foreign language speaking ability. But on the occasions where I've needed such linguistic assistance, I've waded through many names, only to find that the categorized had not been here for years. Could we possibly do something to make it possible to search those categories only for those who have been active here with some reasonably recency? DeistCosmos ( talk) 19:34, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey all,
Here is a copy of the weekly update for the VisualEditor project. This is so that you all know what is happening, and make sure you have as much opportunity to tell us when we're wrong and help guide the priorities for development and improvement:
VisualEditor was updated as part of the wider MediaWiki 1.22wmf16 branch deployment on Thursday 5 September. In the week since 1.22wmf15, the team worked on some interface changes, fixing bugs, and stability & performance improvements to VisualEditor.
In new features, we have changed the toolbar to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. At least initially, we have moved all but the most basic tools into a single drop-down, including inserting media, templates and other transclusions, and references & reference lists. As part of this, the controls to add <u>
(underline), <sub>
(subscript), and <sup>
(superscript), <s>
(strikethrough) and <u>
(underline) annotations to text will now be available to all users in the drop-down.
We also added a set of keyboard shortcuts for setting the block formatting: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted ( bug 33512). The help/'beta' menu now exposes the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give better reports about issues they encounter ( bug 53050).
When inserting a new link into a blank location, we now additionally suggest lower-case link anchors as well as the upper-case equivalent if you've typed that in, so typing in "iPhone" will prompt "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" ( bug 50452). Inserting media files when some content is selected no longer replaces the content, but puts the media item at the end of the selection instead ( bug 52460). Inserting a link, reference or media file will now put the cursor after the new content again ( bug 53560).
In the reference dialog, the 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have a reference ( bug 51848). Newly-added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label ( bug 51670).
We fixed a few errors with copy and paste; copying over nodes (like references or templates) no longer inserts additional newlines on paste ( bug 53364), and if you copied an item and then changed it, or pasted it and changed the copy, you would get the changed item (and not what you copied) on the next paste ( bug 52271). The names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate ( bug 53503).
Finally, our Google Summer of Code students neared completion of their work. The Math and SyntaxHighlight extension editors have both made excellent process, and the team hosted in San Francisco Moriel Schottlender, lead on the tool for setting text language details, for in-depth discussions of how we might improve the back-end to support the tool better.
A complete list of individual code commits is available in the 1.22/wmf16 changelog, and all Bugzilla bugs closed in this period are on Bugzilla's list.
Following the regular MediaWiki deployment roadmap, this should be deployed here on Thursday 12 September. You can test it right now on MediaWiki.org if you want to see what it will look like here.
Hope this is helpful! As always, feedback gratefully received, either here or on the enwiki-specific feedback page.
Jdforrester (WMF) ( talk) 00:46, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm interested see the number of languages a page is attached with, just to the right side of the Languages i.e: Languages (NNN)
. Am I alone to expect this?--
Mrutyunjaya Kar (
talk)
12:42, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
$(function() {
var label = $('h3#p-lang-label:first')
, l = label.siblings().find('ul li[class|=interwiki]').length
, a = label.find('a')
, t = a.text();
a.text(t + ' (' + l + ')');
});
$(function() {
var label = $('#p-lang')
, l = label.find('.pBody ul li[class|=interwiki]').length
, a = label.find('h3')
, t = a.text();
a.text(t + ' (' + l + ')');
});
Because the Lua-based cites are so quick, there is ample speed to auto-relink all sources from the current hard-coded "http:" into protocol-relative format "https://..." when a page is being formatted to store the cache version (or during edit-preview). There would be no need to edit the 2.1 million pages (2,050,000+) using the wp:CS1 cites. This would allow even users with high-security browsers to keep all links within the https-protocol format and avoid security warnings of dropping down to http to view a source website. Before Lua, to trim hundreds (200+) of URL strings to omit "http:" was not feasible for large articles due to the 60-second timeout during edit-preview; however, the developers might have a plan to force all external links as protocol-relative unless they contain a special code-sequence in the URL, to keep "http:" for rare websites which do not handle https. Again, the current links use the hard-coded "http:" prefix to drop from secure-protocol when viewing most sources, perhaps casting a visible shadow around the source websites to help infer which articles are being read. I think the Lua-based cites could be upgraded during a few days to auto-relink as protocol-relative URLs, using Lua's rapid built-in substring feature to extract the URL at the "https://..." portion (omitting "http*:"), with basically zero overhead in processing speed. The main issues are consensus, preparation and any side-effects. - Wikid77 ( talk) 07:06, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
But I'd like to alert those with coding abilities (and particularly those with an interest in supporting WikiProjects) to see it over here. Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) 10:21, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
So I tried changing my password today and this is the message I got "You have made too many recent login attempts. Please wait $1 before trying again." Also, here's a screenshot of it. Anyone know why it says to wait 1 dollar? — - dain omite 16:47, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
The default history page [23] for "Wolfhound: Revision history" lks, next to last revn on page, to ...&diff=571756292&oldid=220467466 as compare-to-current and to ...w/index.php?title=Wolfhound&diff=220467466&oldid=prev as compare-to-revn-previous-to-this-line's-revn as i think i should expect. But hovering the two lks shows respectively
for "cur: as i expect but
for "prev" which is, uh..., absurd. The diffs seem indeed to show simply reversal of which page has the "old" or "new" label.
Shutting down for complete reboot, to see if this is repeatable.
--
Jerzy•
t
23:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
OK, it really happened once. But i live by the watchword that if it only happens once, it didn't really happen, from a software maintenance point of view: case closed, AFAIK.
--
Jerzy•
t
00:21, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I just added some references to an article on French Wikipedia and it seems like a script automatically created a cache of each webpage I used on a site called wikiwix.com and then added a link to the cache in the footnotes for the references. I was not expecting this. Does anyone know anything about wikiwix and whether we can get it here?
The cached versions lose some of the formatting, but so what? Here is an example: [24]. Formerip ( talk) 00:33, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I've recently done a write-up about accessibility problems on Wikipedia in the Signpost's tech report, and flowing from that, I've started a bot request discussion to fix some accessibility issues that I noted in the write-up. Any comments at the bot request discussion would be appreciated. Graham 87 05:15, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
As other editors have already made note of, the change-over to Secure URLs is causing problems for a lot of us. I've already explained above how upsetting it was to have my Wikipedia browsing history suddenly disappear. I mistakenly thought that unchecking the setting in my preferences had taken care of the problem. Not So. It turns out that when I specify one of the normal/non-secure Wikipedia URLs, the software no longer recognizes me as a logged-in user -- iow, the pages display as they do for any anon. IP user (and as I discovered by accident, my IP address shows up in the edit history, as one would expect). But as soon as I go to a secure URL, everything goes back to normal -- and that's without having to log in again; iow, it keeps me logged in, as it should. But those secure pages don't show up in my browser history, no matter what I do. Yes, I've changed & re-changed my preference setting and logged back in several times. And I've also looked for the trouble-making cookies that were mentioned above -- but curiously, I don't seem to have ANY cookies for Wikipedia, even though it is one of the few sites where I expressly allow them by default. <sigh> Any help on this would be hugely appreciated! Cgingold ( talk) 08:34, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I've been seeing lots of reports (far more than normal) lately at WP:AN/WP:ANI from people who were given cached versions of pages with vandalism that was reverted well before the reporters loaded their pages. It just happened to me for the first time since I started editing in 2006; I got this version of Australian rules football about half an hour after it was reverted. Have our caching settings changed? Is it something with MediaWiki that we could fix? Nyttend ( talk) 02:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Dear technical people: A couple of days ago I tried to move a page from Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Koso Kent Introl Limited (KKI) to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Koso Kent Introl Limited (KKI). Somehow, I missed and accidentally managed to move the page to Portal space. I figured that I would just move it again, but my destination page already existed, so the page move failed. So far this is as expected.
Next I did something that ended up causing a problem: I tried to move the article back where it came from by clicking on the history and selecting (undo) next to the page move item. I wasn't sure if it would work, but the undo software displayed a message stating that it could be undone, and I took this as a positive and pressed the save button.
What happened next was really strange. Instead of undoing the page move, the software now changed the Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Koso Kent Introl Limited (KKI) article (which I had never edited at all) to a redirect to the article in Portal space. Now two articles had been apparently moved into one! With the help of an administrator everything was put back in it's appropriate place. (These articles have all been deleted now, so I guess someone decided they weren't useful.)
Here's my question: Is it possible to undo a page move with the (undo) in the article's history? If not, could the (undo) function be modified not to say that the edit can be undone when someone tries? I won't do it again in any case, but someone else may. — Anne Delong ( talk) 15:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Today I saw an account with the username " Niggerhater678". The account was, of course, blocked, but not before it got to vandalize TFA. We have a filter in place to prevent articles with similar titles from being created without administrative approval. Couldn't we do the same for account names? Joefromrandb ( talk) 01:21, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
So I'm not entirely sure this is the place to come (feel free to trout me and send me in the right direction if this isn't the place to ask), but could someone possessing both the technical knowledge of the ins and outs of substitution and the ability to dumb said knowledge down head over to Help:Substitution and simplify the language? I've been here for years (and I've been editing templates for most of those years), and parts of this page are completely indecipherable to me. Everything's hunky dory until the section titled "Technical implementation", where it starts to get a little murky. I can understand the main body of that section after reading it through a few times, but the way it's worded could be confusing to a newbie. I'd reword it myself, but I'm not entirely sure how to go about it. The subsection of that section, which is about safesubst: goes completely over my head. I'm pretty sure this is a wording issue, and is not due to a lack of clue on my part. (Though, hey, I could be wrong!) The section titled "Recursive substitution" could do with an explanation of the concept/definition of recursive substitution; as is, it just starts by saying that substitution isn't recursive. Not much help to a newbie.
I know the normal place to post about this is the page's talkpage, but it's pretty inactive, so I figured I'd have more luck over here. Again, I'm probably in the wrong place. Let me know if there's anywhere else I could go to ask about this. Cheers, — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
This archive page is not displaying all archived Good Article Reassessments very well. In fact, 50 percent is displayed, and the rest... are just templates or something like that? I tried discussing this to bot operator, but he is busy at this moment and will be back on November. Also, I tried in WP:AN, but the message I left will be archived in hours soon because almost no one responded there except me and bot operator. I'm hoping a fixture. -- George Ho ( talk) 05:18, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure how long it's been around for, who's responsible for it, or where it may have been requested or discussed, but I just noticed the template transclusion preview feature and I'd like to thank any and all who made that happen. I've been wishing for a feature like that for some time and this is a nice solution. For anyone interested, I made a script to add the feature to any namespace page, as transclusions often occur outside Template space: User:Equazcion/UniversalTransclusionPreviews. Equazcion (talk) 18:57, 7 Sep 2013 (UTC)
@ BJorsch (WMF): I put together a little something at User:Equazcion/sandbox that I think might make the page more intuitive. My vote is to use the top line as a replacement for everything currently above the form, and add the collapsed help section below the form. It's collapsed so that when the preview shows up it isn't pushed down too much on the page. Equazcion (talk) 21:30, 8 Sep 2013 (UTC)
I've just discovered that sometime in the last couple of weeks (since 28/8), the interface for editing .js pages (eg MediaWiki:Geonotice.js has switched from a "normal" edit window to a blue-tinted one with line numbering and a smaller, lighter-weight font. I can see the benefit for many use cases, but I personally find this distracting - any idea how to suppress it and return to the normal editor?
I'm using Chromium 28.0.1500.71 on Ubuntu 13.04, for what it's worth. (Note that this is not the same as the font discussion a few threads above - it's specific to .js pages, and does not involve a non-monospaced font) Andrew Gray ( talk) 14:41, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Is the Nastaliq template broken? When I tried to load pages using it, I saw a flash of Nastaliq script and then it changed to the browser's "sans serif" font for Arabic. I looked at the HTML source and the template was fine there, but when I opened it in Firefox's Inspect Element the markup was rendered <span title="Nasta'liq" style="font-size: 125%; font-family: sans-serif;" xml:lang="und-Arab" lang="und-Arab">(contents)</span>. This problem manifested in FF 24 beta, IE10, and Chrome 30 beta. 140.182.204.229 ( talk) 17:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I'm venting, but does anyone in charge know what they are doing? The facts say no. The change to switch all links to https has broken the browser history for many of us. I guess the super smart technical decision makers don't use the browser history. For those of us who do, this is again another one of a series of stupid changes for the sole purpose of making it difficult for editors to use Wikipedia. Vegaswikian ( talk) 00:32, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I want to sincerely thank everyone in this thread, civil or not, logical or not, because I came here to figure out why I stopped getting a dropdown box each time I needed my own useful edit-summary suggestions. As a result of this thread, I unchecked the now default HTTPS, and Lo and Behold! My edit-summary dropdown box returned! So, thank you, Big Daddies, but – No Thank You. Joys! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 18:11, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I was just talking with a new user, who hesitated to try to AfD an article because the procedure's so off-putting, and I can certainly see their point. I have been here since the Ark, and I find it off-putting too. By contrast, I nominated an image for deletion on Commons a day or two ago, and was awed by how easy that was. Smooth as silk! Why can't we have that too? Please? Would somebody like to take a look at how it's done on Commons and give us something similar? Or is there some reason we actually need the confusing, jargon-ridden, template-infested, multi-step, instruction-creepy procedure that we have? (MfD is no better, and CfD, at a quick glance, seems worse.) Bishonen | talk 20:30, 29 August 2013 (UTC).
I've never nominated any file for deletion on the Commons but have done two AfD...the first one I stumbled through by looking at others and copying codes/markup language. But I couldn't remember what I'd done and I messed up the second one. Luckily, two more experienced editors came to my Talk Page and walked me through the steps. But I probably need to refer to that conversation thread if I nominate another AfD.
For one thing, the instructions are not obvious. Now, probably someone will come by and give me the link to the instructions which appears somewhere on the AfD main page but it should be more prominent, not hidden two thirds of the way down the page. It's easy to find pages that give you criteria for deletion but the "how to" (what templates you use, notifying the creator, where you post the rationale, creating a separate discussion page, etc.).
In contrast, I think CfD is pretty straight-forward. There is one page and you add to the list, just post the category you're interested in deleting, merging or renaming, post your rationale and post a very obvious CfD template on the relevant category page. Done. Liz Read! Talk! 13:23, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Bish: completely agreed. The manual process here has gotten so awful and convoluted that my workflow for nominating a page for deletion now involves enabling Twinkle temporarily, nominating the page, and then disabling Twinkle. It's terrible.
I think we need some kind of "Twinkle Lite" script that's auto-enabled for all editors that allows for simple, basic actions. It'd be good if it used real words in the user interface and not the fucking mess that Twinkle brings along (xfd, csd, blergh). In my ideal world, there would be a delete tab that everyone (including regular editors and admins) would hit that would advise CSD, prod, or XFD. And if CSD is selected, the admin could then delete the page immediately rather than tagging it. Otherwise, the script would auto-tag and auto-notify (similar to how Twinkle behaves, if you can find the appropriate link to click...). -- MZMcBride ( talk) 23:24, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I shall outline a somewhat more general problem, another which Twinkle partly alleviates — article tags. Currently they are normal templates, placed next to article content itself. This generates a yet another potential for misuse and misinformation: falsely dating maintenance templates, breaking markup, inserting false protection icons. Templates like {{ pp-semi}} should not exist: protection icons should be provided by the MediaWiki software. {{ unreferenced}} should not be a template put inside the page markup, it should be a feature of MediaWiki which actively keeps track of maintenance issues. Same goes with AfD notices. Nothing stops vandals or spammers from removing or backdating them, besides page protection, but this is obviously discouraged. If we had a system which understands tags and can put some restrictions on their use, that would
They say that Flow is about to fix the discussion issues — good. About the bloody time. But I think it will miss the point if we do not also recognise problems in the larger picture. Twinkle is a patch around the general technical ineptitude of Wikipedia's software. Ideally, it would not exist at all. Keφr 15:51, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
It would be possible to move to the SGC system or the system SSL 3.0 or maybe XMPP? João bonomo ( talk) 15:40, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not currently use perfect forward secrecy (PFS). If anyone is recording Wikipedia HTTPS traffic (e.g. dodgy governments) and Wikipedia's long-term private key becomes compromised, all the recorded traffic can be decrypted. PFS allows each connection to be encrypted with a different key; should a key be compromised, only the communication over that one connection is revealed.
Additionally, Wikipedia is using the RC4 cipher algorithm. Given the news this is possibly compromised, [29] I'd recommend switching to AES for browsers that support TLS 1.1 or later. (AES should not be used with TLS 1.0 because that combination is vulnerable to BEAST attacks.) – PartTimeGnome ( talk | contribs) 22:46, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Minor League Baseball On pages where it is used as an infobox (e.g. Great Lakes Loons), it creates an extra line hanging above the text and I can't seem to get rid of it. Can someone help? — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 01:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Hopefully this Teahouse question won't be archived before someone looks at it. I couldn't see the text on the right when I clicked on "show". I asked about this thinking there was some glitch in how it was added to the page. User:PrimeHunter said there should be a scrollbar but there wasn't. He asked my browser, which is Internet Explorer 9.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:44, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, what has changed in the last day to cause a change in the font of the text in the editing box. The box opens with the text in the font that it has been for some time then changes as the page loads to a thinner lined font. There is no change on Commons so must be something in the wikipedia set-up. Also how do you stop the change happening? Keith D ( talk) 13:33, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
uselang=qqx
to reveal the message names and is in the sans-serif proportional font. This is in both Firefox 23.0.1 and Opera 12.16 --
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:07, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Instructions to reproduce:
This behaviour is apparently dependant on JavaScript.
The hell? Adam Cuerden ( talk) 08:29, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
So, my question is, is VisualEditor part of the MediaWiki software package? If not, is it going to be at some future release? Or is it some sort of an extension that you can add on if you want to, turning it on and off at will? Say, for instance, that someone on another wiki wanted to install VE (crazy, I know). Could they do that? ~ Adjwilley ( talk) 02:02, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
It's rather difficult to navigate between CfD pages using the mobile view, as the header tab which contains the links to the previous and next days' pages doesn't appear in the mobile view. Any idea how to fix this? – Philosopher Let us reason together. 22:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
'wmgMFRemovableClasses' => array( 'default' => array( 'base' => array( 'div.stub', 'div.sister-project', '.portal', '.boilerplate', '.hiddenStructure', '.medialist', ), 'HTML' => array( '.topicon', ), 'WML' => array( '.metadata', ), 'extracts' => array( '.metadata', 'span.coordinates', 'span.geo-multi-punct', 'span.geo-nondefault', ), ), )
I am unsure if this the right place to report this but the Book tool's PDF export function has been producing incorrectly rendered notes and references for several months, maybe over a year. For example, see meta:Book tool/Feedback#Bug: Notes and References all end up as Notes (it's worse than title implies).
I made this post at the above meta page: "This bug is still present, and is worse than described in that many notes and references do not appear at all in the PDF. Try w:Book:Overview of the Solar System and w:Book:Leonardo da Vinci." but I then suspected no one who can help is looking at that page.
The pediapress support links at meta:Book tool/Feedback all appear dead.
This bug maybe relevant but it is assigned to nobody. Or this one, over a year old and still unassigned. - 84user ( talk) 13:42, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Suddenly every page visited takes me to the secure site, and attempts to preview edits bring up nothing - just the edit window of the full page - what gives? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
You're not alone. Ginsuloft ( talk) 20:51, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm having all sorts of troubles, too. Editors must have an option to turn secure protocol off. I understand the benefits and all, but for some this mandatory secure connection would do more harm than good if it cannot be turned off. Please, fix.— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); August 28, 2013; 20:52 (UTC)
I've monkeyed around in Firefox, including (about:config) and what it looks like is Firefox doesn't handle SSL requests correctly (firefox 23.0.1 ) It DOES have TLS avaialable in about:config, TLS 0 = SSL3, but it doesn't appear to process correctly, event the site itself doesn't seem to render correctly that way (nor will it when a range of TLS max = 3 Min =0 is given ).
Devs - If I may suggest, next time a software change is needed, ask for testers (and yes I'll volunteer ) to vet your changes before they're released. That way most of the major problems can be caught ahead of time. KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ... 13:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I've disabled them, so any that were sent were missed because I have that setting on. Anyrate, it looks like only Firefox is affected as it can't handle SSL 3. (In case anyone's wondering, a javascript is involved with the SSL change over
This one . Turning off javascript won't solve the problem as the re-direct is on wiki's side :) KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ... 16:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Timestamp: 8/29/2013 2:57:19 PM
Error: ReferenceError: hookEvent is not defined
Source File: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-popups.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&570545406
Line: 7678
KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ...
19:02, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I investigated in searching why I was still redirected to https even after having unchecked the checkbox and disconnected-reconnected many times; it is due to the presence of two cookies (names enwikiforceHTTPS) and only one is deleted, so you are still redirected to https (
bugzilla:53536); this happens with Firefox and Opera, I suspect Chrome delete the two cookies (which make the un-https working). Perhaps the second sub-thread here (Kudpung 22:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)) is partly due to this bug (at least the problem to un-https).
A temporary solution is:
and you should stay on http. ~ Seb35 [^_^] [fr] 01:19, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
What is truly galling about this is that there appears to be no way to have a universal opt-out of HTTPS. Everytime I go to a different foreign language wiki, or a different project, it slams me into HTTPS again and I have to go the preferences section of that project to undo it. I don't need the security advantages of HTTPS, which I will admit are real, and it adds a minor irritant when I copy a link in a foreign language wiki and have to manually edit the link before I have the website translated. (Google Translate does not support HTTPS.) Carolina wren ( talk) 04:44, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Every time I go to the reflinks tool I get forced onto the HTTPS version of the site. What's up with that?— Ryulong ( 琉竜) 19:49, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
As of this morning, and not before, I noticed red errors about "Missing or empty URL" and "|accessdate= requires |url=" all over the reference sections of both Audie Murphy and Audie Murphy honors and awards. On the honors and awards page, the very first reference that has the red error about the missing URL, this is the exact citation:
Even on some of the red-errored citations in the main article, if I go in and delete the blanks for URL and Accessdate, it still shows up as errors. Given that these articles have been in 2013 subject to scrutiny by Peer Review, GA Review, and a fairly recent A-Class Review at Military History project, this would have been noticed. I monitor these articles everyday. This just showed up today.
And yet, as I write this the article Audie Murphy filmography does not have the red errors. But it did about half an hour ago. What is going on with the citation templates? — Maile ( talk) 17:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
CS1 citations where |url=
is blank or omitted. The |url=
parameter is required so that |title=
can link to the web resource. To resolve this error, provide a value for |url=
or use a more appropriate CS1 citation.|accessdate=
is the date that the web resource addressed by |url=
was added to the article. If |accessdate=
has been included in the citation without |url=
then this message appears. If the citation does not use a web link, then |accessdate=
is redundant and should be removed.|url=
does not cause this error. --
Gadget850
talk
18:52, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
for a printed source) through typos (such as |dtae=
for |date=
) to the completely unimplemented (such as |printer=
). Detection of all of these problems was implemented several months ago; most error messages were hidden but opt-in. Periodically, some of them have been revealed to all users, with the latest batch being a couple of days ago, which is why you're suddenly seeing them; whereas those (like me) who
opted in already will have been seeing those messages for some time. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:56, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks to all of you for your help and guidance on my resolving this where I have noticed it. — Maile ( talk) 19:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I have already asked, elsewhere, for these warnings to be turned off while the proposed bot fixes the existing errors. They can then be turned on again to warn when new instances of the error occur. @ Redrose64: @ Gadget850: How's that going? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:07, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
The numerous excessive red-error messages, in the wp:CS1 cites, can be re-hidden by fixing Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration to reset each newly activated message, back to "hidden=true" (set "false" on 26 August 2013 by User:Gadget850, see: dif410). For example, the message named by anchor = 'cite_web_url' (which displays "Missing or empty |url=") can again be hidden, as during the past 5 months, by setting the associated variable as "hidden=true". Do a similar reset to hide other messages which are flooding major articles with annoying messages about fixing dozens of URL parameters or other tedious busywork. - Wikid77 ( talk) 21:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Some perspective from someone who has been working on cleaning up these errors for three months:
If all of the people who are complaining about these errors would dedicate some time to fixing them instead, they would be gone in relatively short order. Let's get the red out! – Jonesey95 ( talk) 06:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
We had extensive discussions in April/May 2013, about not showing all those wp:CS1 red-error messages in thousands of major articles, because people were not fixing the errors quickly, even after weeks of watching for cite updates. An ongoing survey of articles with cite-errors confirmed how thousands of editors were actively ignoring the cite-error conditions and merely kept coding {cite_web} or {cite_book} despite the error restrictions having been carefully explained for years in the template /doc pages. In fact, get this: even with the glaring red-error messages showing a cite-error with a big message, some editors were still actively adding cite templates with invalid parameters, willfully refusing to fix the cites to avoid the red-error messages. The result of the discussion was clear: there was no consensus to show the wp:CS1 red-error messages, which did not herd the users to fix the cite parameters, and in fact, the consensus of usage was to allow the "invalid" parameters as a choice of the editors working on each page. People simply did not buy-in to the "you cannot think that way" restrictions in cite parameters. The alternative procedure, to trim the flagged cite parameters, was to quietly log the invalid cases into maintenance categories which some concerned Wikipedians could laboriously update to one-by-one fix the questionable cite parameters in thousands of pages (over 50,000 flagged pages in April). For example, one category where people keeping calling {cite_web} without a "url=" parameter still had over 9,000 pages by August 2013:
The consensus of usage by thousands of editors was basically, "We do not care about mandatory URL parameters" and people kept coding many cite templates with only title, date, author or publisher, plus accessdate (etc.). It is just counterproductive, to fight the consensus of usage, and try to force people to set unwanted parameters by scarring their edits with glaring red-error messages which some of them ignore. - Wikid77 ( talk) 00:16, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
citation_config.error_conditions 'error message'].hidden=true
in
Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration. This then makes the error messages have this styling: <span style="display:none;font-size:100%" class="error citation-comment">$1</span>
.citation-comment {display: inline !important;} /* show all Citation Style 1 error messages */
citation_config.error_conditions 'error message'].hidden=true
in
Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration. This then makes the error messages have this styling: <span style="display:none;font-size:100%" class="error citation-comment">$1</span>
.citation-comment {display: inline !important;} /* show all Citation Style 1 error messages */
Should we turn of the latest batch of error messages, temporarily, until this bot (or another) has completed fixing those that can be automatically resolved? Please comment at Help talk:Citation Style 1#RfC. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I am using the Mobile Wikipedia site but I don't see any templates anymore. I used to see them before and they were useful for navigation for me. Is there any way to enable templates on the mobile Wikipedia site? Skronie ( talk) 03:22, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
<div>...</div>
elements. The software that converts the wiki markup into HTML inserts the appropriate tags as follows:<div id="content_0" class="content_block openSection">
after the page heading</div>
<div class="section">
before each level 2 heading</div>
at the end of the article</div>
into the wiki markup (
as here, but that's unbalanced, so it's removed by software that tidies up unbalanced closing tags, so it doesn't survive into the final page as served. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
10:44, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
This very same issue occurs on all archived/closed discussions (RfA, XfD, ANI, you name it); the closing template, along with the contents of discussions do not appear. hmssolent\ You rang? ship's log 11:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I tried to view my watch list, but the site told me I was not logged in. I followed the link to log in, [31], and when I entered my account name and password, the site redirected my browser to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:CentralLogin/start?token=1239298853ccbe9a17ca0a2f1f9e1e10 (not the real token). While I don't understand the login mechanism, the redirection to a non-SSL page may indicate a weakness. — rybec 21:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
IE8, Windows 7, Monobook. In the last few days, occasional pages have started not to appear: I go to a page, the elements appear as they're downloaded, but as soon as everything's downloaded, the screen goes white. Completely white, as if the page had no code on it at all! At the same time, I know that things are downloading and not simply cached, since the little bar at the bottom right of the browser says "Downloading imagenamehere.png", "Accessing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pagenamehere", etc., until it displays "Done" once completed. I can view the history page and the edit page fine (although I have to go directly to the URLs, since the tabs don't appear), but if I preview an edit, the screen goes completely white. I have no clue what's causing this, because it's rare — I've only encountered this on four pages, and all of them are just in the last few days:
At first, I thought it was something weird at Commons, so I asked for help at their VP (using Firefox, which didn't have a problem with either Commons page) but was given a snarky response and nothing that helped to resolve the problem. Now that I've encountered it on two vastly different pages here, I have no clue at all what's happening. Nyttend ( talk) 23:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there a means of preventing Visual Editor being used on a page? Something like {{ nobots}}. Every time VisEd is used on Morse code the preformatted text gets screwed. Spinning Spark 00:39, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Last time I edited my common.css, apparently I added this, although I have no memory in doing so:
.mw-editsection-link-secondary { visibility: visible !important; } .mw-editsection-divider { visibility: visible !important; } .mw-editsection-bracket { visibility: hidden !important; }
What exactly does this do? Also, now there seems to be this syntax highlighting thing for the common.css, what's that? Thanks, -- t numbermaniac c 03:03, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I added a {{
Attached KML}}
to
Ladrillero Channel. The route of the Channel is shown, but near the Antarktis. Can any one tell me what is wrong?. I took
Adelaide Avenue as example and changed the names and the coords. --Best regards,
Keysanger (
what?)
16:36, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
{{
GeoGroup}}
described at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#GeoGroup Template URL encoding errors. I think it might be a double
{{urlencode:}}
. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
17:06, 10 September 2013 (UTC)In the Wikipedia Android app (v 1.3.4), the Contact Us link in the app does not work. It tries to navigate to http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:MobileFeedback&feedbacksource=WikipediaMobile%2F1.2, which says "No such special page". Could this be fixed? I had intended to follow this link to leave some feedback about the app itself, specifically the persistent loading of the Article of the Day page upon startup, which can be annoying. Thanks. -- Jameboy ( talk) 20:24, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
An RFC is under way to determine whether or not to create a new user right that would allow trusted template coders to edit fully protected templates: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Template editor user right. equazcion (talk) 10:08, 11 Sep 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, Not sure if I am going mad, or if I have found a bug. I was looking at My de contributions, and a few of my EN edits show up on there. Anyone able to shed any light on this? Thanks, -- Mdann 52 talk to me! 14:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
On 1/12/13 two accounts of mine were merged. User:Kevinrbing & User:Fortmac were merged in this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Fortmac&diff=532770745&oldid=532544335. However, when I go to create a signature on a talk page using \~\~\~\~ kevinrbing appears as the signature instead of fortmac. See here: /info/en/?search=Talk:Katherine_Sheehan or here: Kevinrbing ( talk) 13:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Signed, Kevinrbing ( talk) 13:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there any tool on Labs or Toolserver where an editor can find out how many articles they're contributed to? Not the total edit count per editor, but the article count per editor and/or project article count by editor. I've seen on some user pages where there are claims such as, "I've contributed to over 30,000 articles" or "I've contributed to 7,000 articles on this project" and wonder if that's a personal calculation, or there is some tool that calculates that for them? If there is no tool available to verify such a claim, it seems to me one could claim anything they want about their editing history. — Maile ( talk) 12:53, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
here. Yaan ( talk) 17:04, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
On my watchlist, new edits since I last looked in on a page are showing with a count followed by "since last visit". I've found this to be very helpful and it has made my editing more efficient. Thanks to whoever or whatever made that change. SchreiberBike talk 03:37, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Add the following to your common.css page:
.updatedmarker {
display: none;
}
PS. See Wikipedia:Customizing watchlists for info on letting your watchlist mark updated pages for you. The "updated since" tags are part of that watchlist feature, but most of them were disabled by community consensus. equazcion (talk) 18:36, 9 Sep 2013 (UTC)
I don't see this feature instead. What should I look for? -- cyclopia speak! 12:55, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
$('a:contains("since last visit")').remove();
to
your common.js page. This will remove the "since last visit" links. Only thing is, it will leave an empty "| |" where the link was supposed to be. Shortly after these "since" features were introduced, the developers were beckoned to add code that would make customization easy, and they did -- but you're using a non-default option to "expand" watchlist changes via your watchlist preferences; something that was neglected during these fixes. As a result there's no easy way (that I can see) to cleanly do what you want, but maybe someone else will come along and say there, since I'm so often wrong.
equazcion
(talk) 14:17, 13 Sep 2013 (UTC)
$('.mw-title').parent('td').find(':contains(" since last visit")').replaceWith("");
('.mw-title').parent('td').find
part back and it was all hunky dory again. I'm still working on the | |. I'm hoping to have it in a few more tries.
Technical 13 (
talk)
02:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
$('span.mw-title').parent('td').find('a:contains(" since last visit")').replaceWith('∞'); $('td').each(function(){ $(this).html($(this).html().replace('| ∞ |','|')); });
$('td').each(function(){ $(this).html($(this).html().replace('since last visit','new')); });
I recently edited the page for Crossfire, soon I recieved a rather alarming notification that my edit had been reverted, which was shcoking because it was generally good information (I thought), anyway upon going to the page it seems that someone had deleted only a single line of what I wrote but left the rest. In actuality this wasn't a revert, although the notification system seemed to think it was. While I'm thick skinned enough to deal with the changing nature of Wikipedia, I often hear that newcomers are often intimidate about pages constantly being reverted, I think that will only hamper participation especially if there's a difference between actual revertion and what the system thinks is revertion.
Deathawk ( talk) 23:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
This happens even when I'M NOT LOGGED IN. This began happening two days ago and happens with EVERY article page I visit. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? Please help, thanks Ponorinc ( talk) 03:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm confused by your question. What I'm saying is that when I'm logged out (and logged in as well) all Wikipedia pages I visit are Https automatically. Ponorinc ( talk) 05:52, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
This seems like something that should be reported on Bugzilla, but the instructions say to report the matter here first when in doubt. So, that's what I'm doing.
In any event, I've noticed a problem when moving pages that I don't believe I've noticed before, or at least believe should be fixed. If I navigate away from the Move succeeded page that is displayed after performing a move and then press the back button, the move is attempted again. If the original move didn't require deleting the target page, there's no problem, as you get a screen notifying you that the target article has a history, which requires a confirmation of deletion. However, if the original move did require deleting the target page (so this only comes up if you're an admin), the confirmation to delete the target page is carried over even after you press the back button. The end result is that the article you just moved is now deleted and replaced by a self-referencing redirect.
If that was confusing, let me try to explain that this way:
Say you're trying to move an article from Location A to Location B, which has a history. You might do the following:
Unfortunately, fixing the mistake caused here can be a nightmare. You now have the history of two pages merged in the deleted history. You have to pick out the diffs corresponding to the article you want and restore those. God forbid if both of the articles involved have extensive histories or were of similar sizes (making it hard to pick out which diffs belong with each article). An example of where I made this mistake is at the Lui Chong article (see the deletion log; note two consecutive deletions marked as "Deleted to make way for move").
What should happen is, after you press the back button, you should get some sort of warning that your action will cause the deletion of the article that you just moved to Location B. That could come in the form of the standard red-box warning indicating that the target location [now occupied by the article you just moved] has a history or it could come with a browser-level "Please confirm that you want to resubmit this form" dialog box. However, the way this is handled now doesn't work.
Feedback on this issue, and whether I've posted it in the correct venue, would be greatly appreciated. -- tariqabjotu 05:17, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
When hovering over an article title, a pop-up box appears giving options (edit, history etc.) and the beginning of the lede. If there is an image, the options are moved down the page, the image inserted in the top LH corner and the options then move back up to the underside of the image. This makes selecting an option difficult, as the options are jumping about. When trying to click edit, I frequently hit, and open the image, or the article, as the options are moved down, or "what links here" as they move back up.
About 10 days ago the pop up box changed, moving the image to the right and stabilizing the options, albeit that they were moved to drop down menus requiring a second hover and a click.
About 2 days ago it reverted to the original jumping option. Why was this changed back? Is the stable version going to return? Can it be selected via some code?
Finally why do the options still include "Editors" which leads to a page stating "This tool no longer exists."
Arjayay (
talk)
09:15, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Dear editors: When I first joined Wikipedia, when I received a message on my talk page a large orange notification banner would appear. This has more recently been replaced by a smaller notification (an improvement, since it takes less screen real estate). The old one, however, had a "last change" link. I find with this new notification I often have to search the page history looking for the new message, since the notification doesn't include a last change link and clicking on it doesn't lead to the section of my talk page which holds the new message. Is there a setting that can fix this? If not, is something planned for the future to replace this useful feature? — Anne Delong ( talk) 12:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
div.mw-echo-notification-footer { font-size: inherit; }
Something interesting has happened to this template page. — Anne Delong ( talk) 14:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I hope readers aren't being pounded with the "wiki loves monuments" banner as much as I am... It's quite annoying. If I click X on it once, it shouldn't ever come back. Should it WMF? @ Mdennis (WMF): Greetings Maggie! Biosthmors ( talk) 20:41, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
There was a bit of talk here about Citation expander not working properly--from what I understand (see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 116) this is the thingy that fills in the blanks in the cite book template on the basis of GBooks URL or ISBN. A comment was made there, "The bot's maintainer has set the bot's account to not use SSL for now, as a workaround", but I have no idea what that is supposed to mean--whether a workaround means it's supposed to be working or not. Whatever it is, something's not working, and it's a drag: when that thingy was working it saved me eons of time and RSI. Can someone PLEASE fix this? Thank you. Oh, and while you're at it, can some smart person make something that allows the blanks to be filled in for the cite journal template based on a JSTOR stable URL? It would make my life almost complete. Drmies ( talk) 17:47, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
|jstor=
support is supposed to be an existing feature. Do you have an example of it not working?
LeadSongDog
come howl!
19:58, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
On the user contributions page there is a link to global contributions on the tool server. However that rarely works now. Is the a substitute on the WMFlabs? How do we find the new tools? Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 08:42, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello all,
I seem unable to find a place where this has been answered (if any) and I've been getting an unmanageable number of hits (all way off answering my question) for all keyword combinations I could think of. So in case this had been ansered elsewhere, sorry and could somebody kindly point me to that place.
I am looking for a way to search an article's version log for where a given portion of text was introduced. Example: Who added
<ref>[http://www.br-online.de/bayern2/radiowissen/australien-aborigines-ayers-rock-ID1265712254426.xml Ayers Rock – Der Computer rettet Felsmalereien]</ref>
to
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uluṟu
? (or, for simplicity, when was
Leung, Chee Chee (23 September 2003). "Lulu the kangaroo hops to the rescue". The Age (Australia). Retrieved 10 January 2010.
added to
Kangaroo ?, purpose being in a range of useful advanced actions such as quickly finding the contributor to discuss a detail or ask a question, determining the time a now broken link was added (such as in the de: example) in order to narrow the search for the original source, etc.
I'd like to suggest the answer to my question be entered on the WP search FAQ and/or WP versions FAQ (with creation of said FAQs if they don't exist), and adapting the current FAQ index. As it is, it is hard to tell from the FAQ index which FAQ to look in for the answer in the first place.
Any help appreciated, TIA -- 217.81.188.73 ( talk) 13:32, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I was trying to figure out why Joseph-François Malgaigne has script errors, its because of the template {{Authority control|VIAF=64103543}}. But the template (with the parameters) works on other articles (preview), and in my sandbox. I tried to remove the script error with a null edit, and a normal edit - didn't help.... Some other weird stuff. Go to an article which use the template Authority control, remove all parameters but one from the Authority control, and preview the page, the other parameters still appear on the preview. Christian75 ( talk) 11:33, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
User:RFC bot hasn't made any edits in about 2 weeks. Is there something going on with it? equazcion (talk) 12:23, 14 Sep 2013 (UTC)
I attached a proposed deletion template to a blp, Charlie Jacks, as self-promotion. The seven days notice period is now up, and the deletion has not been opposed. Could an administrator please delete this? -- The Vintage Feminist ( talk) 16:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Many (but not all) times that I load a Reference Desk section to which I added several <math> tags, I see several instances of the texvc error "Failed to parse (unknown error): p=1\%", always for the same subset of my TeX snippets. It seems to be all those that end in a command. (This may of course be a known issue; sorry for the noise if so. I didn't see anything recent about it.) -- Tardis ( talk) 18:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
This edit has not yet appeared on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. (change is however rendered in preview mode). Anyone else having a similar issue? DK qwerty 04:32, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I need to download all the articles that transclude a template.
Is that possible? Or do I need to download the whole 9GB database dump?
The template I'm talking about is transcluded in approx 35K articles, so a lot less than 1% of the total.
So it feels like a huge waste of resources to download the whole database...
Does anybody know if this can be done and how?
Thanks a lot!
Azylber ( talk) 04:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
My watchlist is not showing changes to a page I'm watching. The page is the article Nave, which has had four edits today (two by me a few hours ago), none of which is showing on my watchlist. Neither "hide minor edits" nor "hide my edits" is selected, nor have I made any changes recently to my watchlist options. Any ideas? Eric talk 21:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, is it possible to make an exception from watching by //en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&target=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_116&namespace=0 with something like nonincluded tag? Dominikmatus ( talk) 13:27, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I have reverted the bold change brought about by the creation of:
As noted during the previous discussion, the visual impact of the change is massive when looking at a category with a large number of subcategories—to the point, I would argue, that the cluttered mass of text actively disrupts navigation by competing for attention with (and sometimes overwhelming) the actual subcategory titles.
I am posting this thread to initiate the third phase of WP:BRD. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 04:40, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that the little red Notifications Box next to my user name at the top of the page had the number "4" showing and attempted to check on what they were. But when I place my cursor over the box nothing happens at all. It seems to be totally disabled, even though it's telling me that I have 4 notifications. Everything else on the page is normal, all the other nearby links are working just fine. I even tried logging out and logging back in, just for the hell of it. Aside from wanting to get it working again, I'd also like to know, is there another way to see my notifications in the meantime? Cgingold ( talk) 19:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi. When you edit a javascript or CSS page, there's a toolbar above the editing window and the window itself has syntax highlighting enabled. Is there a way to disable these? I have the editing toolbar disabled already in my preferences but in JS/CSS pages it still shows up. Jafeluv ( talk) 05:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
/*
characters escapes me. I did know what it was for though, because it's the same editor interface that's been used for modules right from the start. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)At Wikipedia talk:WPUS, an editor posted a thread more than half an hour ago - it can be seen on the recent history - but it is not visible on the page. I experimented with posting a test below that, by using the "New Section" tab at the top, and that didn't show up either. Maybe it's something strange in the posting right above it.Arizona Supreme Court Vice Chief Justice W. Scott Bales. That one was autosigned by a bot, but the autosign doesn't appear there either. — Maile ( talk) 22:01, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I have a very simple page at hi:User:Johnuniq/sandbox where the wikitext is a preamble, then a single convert template, then a postamble. The page is blank! Inspecting the html source shows none of the expected wikitext. I don't see any timeout or other indication of an error.
Using
hi:Special:ExpandTemplates to expand the template ({{convert|-10|C|F}}
) yields "−10 °से. (14 °फ़ै.)" and doing a preview after pasting that text into the sandbox shows the page as expected.
The template does not need to be fixed because it will be replaced with a module. I'm just curious about what might cause a page to be blank, with no indication of a reason that I can see. Johnuniq ( talk) 06:53, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
{{formatnum:{{convert/-{{#expr:{{{1}}}<0}}|{{{1}}}}}}}
{{{1}}}
was replaced with -10 (the Celsius value to be converted), what we have here is
{{formatnum:{{convert/-{{#expr:-10<0}}|-10}}}}
→ {{formatnum:{{convert/-1|-10}}}}
{{convert/-1|-10}}
→ -10 and {{formatnum:-10}}
→ -10 but {{formatnum:{{convert/-1|-10}}}}
gives the blank page. So, it's something to do with {{formatnum:}}
in combination with
hi:Template:Convert/-1. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:22, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
{{formatnum:−1}}
" (with a Unicode minus), and that blanks the page! That's beginning to sound like a MediaWiki bug which should be reported?{{convert|0|–|4|C|F}}
Johnuniq (
talk)
11:43, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I think I've found a bug in superimpose
See the map of sites at List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_Oceania
The site in the far South West should be Heard and MacDonald Islands.
The alt text at that point is correct, but the link is to Henderson_Island_(Pitcairn_Islands) instead.
If you look at the source for the map, which uses superimpose,
{{Superimpose2 ...
the lines near that point are:
|float10_caption = Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park |link10 = Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park |x10 = 568 |y10 = 52 |float11_caption = Heard and McDonald Islands |link11 = Heard Island and McDonald Islands |x11 = 26 |y11 = 387 |float12_caption = Henderson Island |link12 = Henderson Island (Pitcairn Islands) |x12 = 687 |y12 = 237
Perhaps the apostrophes in Hawai'i are confusing where the links should go.
Only checked on OS X, but the behaviour appears in firefox, safari and chrome — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newystats ( talk • contribs) 05:51, 16 September 2013
I've already asked at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks in case that might work. Special:Contributions/Coreyemotela moved HIV/AIDS titles to HIV-AIDS titles. Biosthmors ( talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{ U}}) when u sign ur reply, thx 11:18, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
For the last several days I've been experiencing intermittent but frequent slowdowns. Show preview, Save page, refreshing pages, etc., often take much longer than normal to resolve. Is anyone aware of this, looking into it maybe?-- Bbb23 ( talk) 01:01, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Anyone know if it's possible to have underlined characters, like this or perhaps rather like this, and to apply some color to the underlining, without coloring the actual characters? (Might be a solution to the problem discussed here: Talk:Chinese classifier#Underlining.) W. P. Uzer ( talk) 06:57, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
border-bottom
or text-decoration
will be semantically null. Per
underline: "In Chinese, the underline is a punctuation mark for proper names". The HTML5 specification redefined the underline markup <u>...</u>
as "The <u>
element represents a span of text with an unarticulated, though explicitly rendered, non-textual annotation, such as labeling the text as being a proper name in Chinese text (a Chinese proper name mark), or labeling the text as being misspelt."
[34] So there is no need to create a new convention where a standard already exists. --
Gadget850
talk
09:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
<u>
element per Gadget850. If the
CSS Text Decoration Module Level 3 becomes a full W3C Recommendation, and the browser vendors implement it, you'll be able to put bar which will produce a coloured underline on browsers that support it, but will default to underline in the text colour. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
When would it be appropriate to add this tag to a source-less or badly sourced statement? If a reference does not meet some kind of standard why would it's claim me marked this way instead of the statement being deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CensoredScribe ( talk • contribs) 19:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
{{
citation needed}}
is a
template used to identify claims in articles, particularly if questionable, that need a
citation to a
reliable source.Thank you John Broughton; I'm glad to know about these help pages and wikipedia's sourcing policy. CensoredScribe ( talk) 15:56, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Hypothetically is it possible to email ALL editors who have an email on wikipedia or another wiki? Is there an extension that lets you do this? Is there a special page that lets you do this?
Please - I KNOW it is not allowed on wikipedia. Please - This is NOT a discussion about wikipedia rules. This is a technical discussion. I am more interested in doing this on a private wiki.
Thoughts?
Thank you! Igottheconch ( talk) 09:30, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
I misread this in my watchlist as "eliminating all editors on Wikipedia", and got excited. equazcion (talk) 15:45, 17 Sep 2013 (UTC)
Take a look at
Special:Export/Western zone for an example. The redirect goes to a section of the article, but the title
attribute of the redirect
element doesn't reflect that. Is this intended behaviour (and so getting the full article + section name requires parsing the article body)? If so, would it be possible to add an optional section
attribute to the element?
KleptomaniacViolet (
talk)
11:32, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
It has been noted that the files required to implement the consensus at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Default State RFC are actually under control of the Wikipedia community, and that we are not reliant upon WMF to implement the changes. I'm not going to go do this cowboy style without discussion, but what I do need is to actually have a working solution in hand to discuss. The goal is to change common.js so that VE is not displayed to IPs, and to forcibly set the preference for all new accounts to disable.
I tried creating a private common.js that replaced
if ( mw.user.options.values['visualeditor-enable'] === undefined ) { mw.user.options.set( 'visualeditor-enable', 1 ); }
with
if (autoconfirmed() === 0) { mw.user.options.set('visualeditor-enable',0); } function autoconfirmed() { var userGroups = mw.config.get( 'wgUserGroups' ); if ( userGroups ) { for ( var i = 0; i < userGroups.length; i++ ) { if ( userGroups[i] === 'autoconfirmed' ) { return(1); } } } return(0); }
It didn't behave as expected. It disabled VE on my autoconfirmed account (which it should not have) and did so quite insistently. For that particular browser, no amount of common.js deletion, cache clearing, logging in and out, browser restarting, or preference clearing and setting will reenable VE. That would be essentially sabotaging VE, and that's not what I have in mind.
MZMcBride has suggested a common.css implementation, but it doesn't actually set the preference. Once the account hits 10 edits, VE magically switches itself on..
LegoTKM has suggested that I "wrap stuff in mw.loader.using('mediawiki.user', function() { stuff; });
" but I'm not quite sure how to accomplish that.
Any suggestions as to how to fix my base code?— Kww( talk) 21:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
/* Hide VisualEditor for anons and new users */
if ( mw.config.get( 'wgUserName' ) == null || mw.config.get( 'wgUserEditCount' ) < 10 ) {
appendCSS('li#ca-ve-edit, \
.mw-editsection .mw-editsection-divider, \
.mw-editsection .mw-editsection-visualeditor \
{ display: none; }');
}
if (autoconfirmed() === 0)
{
mw.user.options.set('visualeditor-enable',0);
if ( mw.config.get( 'wgUserName' ) != null )
{
mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api', function () {
var api = new mw.Api();
api.get({ action: 'tokens', type: 'options' }).done(function (json) {
api.post({
action: 'options',
change: 'visualeditor-betatempdisable=1',
token: json.tokens.optionstoken
});
});
}
}
function autoconfirmed()
{
var userGroups = mw.config.get( 'wgUserGroups' );
if ( userGroups )
{
for ( var i = 0; i < userGroups.length; i++ )
{
if ( userGroupsi === 'autoconfirmed' )
{
return(1);
}
}
}
return(0);
}
I have a question regarding former accounts. Before my current username, I had two usernames, Boricano75 and Borincano75 (with an 'n'). I incorrectly used a cut-and-paste move when I changed to this username and I want to know if there's a way to get the older contributions to my current account. Erick ( talk) 22:53, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there any toolserver app that could be used to compare two page histories and list the common editors? equazcion (talk) 21:17, 17 Sep 2013 (UTC)