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I think you want your Chelsea/Bradley reversion consistent here (i.e. the first Chelsea should be a Bradley) - or is the problem in my brain (would be no surprise, I'm 5 timezones from home with 24h non-stop travel time ;-). -- Stephan Schulz ( talk) 11:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughts on an ArbCom case. I think it is sorely needed -- I and several (many?) others feel that some admins have abused their privileges. It feels a bit like peasants vs. the monarchy, as some have analogized. As I have stated throughout and as the ArbCom case should work, my problem at the core is with admin excesses rather than with any actual content debate.
I liked the statement on your user page:
"The problem with the world, as I see it, is that everyone views it as a battleground. Advocates are the warriors in that battleground. I like a little more sensibility and respect for opponents."
Although these frustrations can fry a person's patience I appreciate your level head and commitment to being reasonable. CaseyPenk ( talk) 18:04, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Just curious — will this have any effect on those of us who aren't blocked and who don't/haven't had access to UTRS? Nyttend ( talk) 21:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Hey TParis - I left a follow-up question for you regarding UTRS #8586. Cheers, -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 20:10, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- seems to have gone haywire. It's looks as if it's not loading the CSS or something, but all the horizontal barcharts are missing too. This may be something to do with the glitches that were caused by the recent https default. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:33, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
My talk - David Gerard ( talk) 15:22, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
You said this:
Which is a sideswipe at me. You called me "transphobic, hateful or ignorant". I am none of the above. I am also a named living person, and unless you have evidence to back up your assertions, you should strike that. It may not have been your intention, but you criticized me in a public forum without notifying me so I could respond. Moreover, it was a low blow to attack my reputation after I had already struck part of the underlying comment, [2] after David explained that he was troubled by it. David was courteous. I was courteous. Were you?
Could you trim your statement? There directions request 500 words maximimum. An arbitration request is not the place to lay out a bunch of evidence. I think you need to focus on explaining why arbitration is needed if you want to succeed with the request.
Know that I like to speak plainly. Once this matter is resolved between us, I will quickly forget about it. Jehochman Talk 01:11, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Will the Autoedits, Edit summary counter & Top namespace edits also migrated to the Wikimedia Labs? Armbrust The Homunculus 18:15, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey TParis,
Would you be able to do me a favour and reduce the word count of your request to below 700 words? The amount of quotations is a very excessive. Rather than wholly quoting, you should summarize and link to the diff or simply put them in expandable sections like you have previously. Would be really appreciated.
Thanks :)
Seddon talk 19:30, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi TP
I was surprised by your comment at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case, in which you said "I would ask the committee to show how the article's title has caused actual, not perceived, harm to the subject".
That approach demolishes our BLP policy, because it requires us to do nothing to protect a living person until we have evidence that harm has already been done. The whole thrust of WP:BLP is precautionary: to proactively avoid damage, rather than to desist after the harm has been done.
BL says The idea expressed in WP:Eventualism – that every Wikipedia article is a work in progress, and that it is therefore okay for an article to be temporarily unbalanced because it will eventually be brought into shape – does not apply to biographies. Given their potential impact on biography subjects' lives, biographies must be fair to their subjects at all times.
I know that you and I take a different view about what is fair here, but that's a separate issue. Whatever measure of fairness is adopted, we don't wait until we have already screwed up someone's life before being fair. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 00:31, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee has passed a temporary injunction in the case in which you are a party to. The full text of the injunction follows:
The articles " Bradley Manning", " United States v. Manning", and " Chelsea Manning gender identity media coverage" are placed under standard discretionary sanctions for the duration of the case. Unless otherwise provided for in the final decision, any sanction imposed pursuant to this injunction will automatically lapse upon the closure of the case.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee,
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Hello. Just letting you know that I responded to your question at User talk:Zyxw#Nav Popups. -- Zyxw ( talk) 23:22, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
I made a very minor edit to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute#Statement by TParis - I inserted a space between two words. Feel free to revert if you wish. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 00:30, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute/Evidence. Please add your evidence by September 23, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Seddon talk 10:57, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis - Is the UTRS migration to Wikimedia Labs complete? The interface is really messy right now, especially when you zoom in on an appeal.-- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 19:22, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis, please excuse me if I'm not following proper procedure and/or formatting with this post. I am brand new to having a Wiki account and hope I'm doing this right.
I'm posting about a deleted page, about the folklore behind a now defunct indie band called Lifter Puller. It looks as if the deletion of the page was correct according to the Wiki's rules against original content. I was wonder if there's a way for me to see the information though. It simply doesn't exist anywhere anymore and I've become rather infatuated with the band and the investigating the depth of the stories the lyrics tell has become a bit of an obsession.
Could you possibly provide this information? Thanks ten million in advance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifter_Puller_Folklore — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOEYtheNICK ( talk • contribs) 00:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Just for the record, since the proposed decisions (and the final decisions) use diffs in findings of fact and the such, it is more beneficial to reproduce the diff alongside your proposed FoFs. (This also reduces the chance that things are overlooked.) - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 08:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
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Can you please look at what sceptre did on this page? This is exactly one of the chief issues in the arbitration case. Two kinds of pork ( talk) 23:28, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, you're right - I confused Evidence with Workshop. The problem is that we're looking at a group that suffers from discrimination. The messages I linked that you object to are ones denying the group exists, and thus denying that the group has any rights, since they don't exist. Now, note I'm not calling for all users who make such comments to necessarily be sanctioned or anything like that, but such comments surely must count as evidence of prejudice against the group being displayed on Wikipedia, which is, if you look at the Workshop page, how my evidence is being used. I can't see how your conclusions about my evidence follow from my statements, particularly as I set out exactly which criteria I was using to judge the statements. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 15:46, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I think the use of mangled is in reference to the article and radical political advocacy is about the folks actually advocating on the talk page. I'd say the case of advocacy on that talk page is about as strong as the case of transphobia. There are instances of it, but we'd disagree on how much and what to do about it.
I appreciate your willingness to discuss this, it's been tough to find people to build bridges with.--v/r - T P 17:39, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
The commandant of the Marine Corps was a particularly outspoken advocate on the topic. He circulated a paper by the Corps chaplain arguing that "Legislators and military leaders have a legitimate role to play in checking the spread of homosexual behavior, especially among young people whose minds and characters are in formative stages." ( [4]) That's political advocacy. Hell, he went so far as to write a newspaper op-ed—the canonical form of political advocacy—making the case that admitting gays to the military would be risky, and threatening mass resignations in the officer corps if the ban were lifted. (Of course, this is the same Marine Corps commandant who had a habit of claiming that minority officers couldn't swim, shoot, or read a compass as well as white officers, but the point stands). The military played a central political role in the development of policy on this issue, and DADT is very much a construct of the military. MastCell Talk 19:54, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Another way of thinking about it: you're obligated to follow the law, yes. You're also obligated to follow your superior's orders. What if the orders are prejudicially motivated? A prejudicial/politically-motivated order from a general officer could (would?) filter down and color the entire military. How, then, can one say that the military as an organization is apolitical and non-prejudicial if it might have been built on orders that are themselves prejudicial and political? For a concrete example, look at racial segregation in the US military (as it was prior to 1948). The entire organization of the military was designed around the segregation of blacks and whites, and discrimination against blacks (separate units for blacks, which were still commanded by white officers, etc.) How could that not make the military itself, as an organization, prejudicial? Obviously, that's no longer true as far as segregation goes, but t it does illustrate that the military can be--and indeed has been--prejudicial and political. Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 20:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, TParis. Thank you for your recent submission of evidence for the Manning naming dispute Arbitration case. As you may be aware, the Arbitration Committee asks that users submitting evidence in cases adhere to limits regarding the length of their submissions. These limits, currently at 1000 words and 100 diffs for parties and 500 words and 50 diffs for all others, are in place to ensure that the Arbitration Committee receives only the most important information relevant to the case, and is able to determine an appropriate course of action in a reasonable amount of time. The evidence you have submitted currently exceeds at least one of these limits, and is presently at 1213 words and 21 diffs. Please try to reduce the length of your submission to fit within these limits; this guide may be able to provide some help in doing so. If the length of your evidence is not reduced soon, it may be refactored or removed by a human clerk within a few days. Thank you! If you have any questions or concerns regarding the case, please contact the drafting Arbitrator or case clerk (who are listed on the case pages); if you have any questions or concerns about this bot, please contact the operator. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Hersfold ArbClerkBOT( talk) 04:21, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
The second one doesn't make sense unless you've read the first one p b p 16:58, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
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He can do no wrong. I've lost hope in any hope of engaging with him. Everything he does is right and justified, no mistakes are ever made, and it's always someone else's fault.-- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 15:13, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the notice of the topic ban. I am curious of the process involved in this. Are administrator topic bans normally made with the consensus of several administrators, or is just one administrator needed to establish administrator 'consensus'? SaltyBoatr get wet 17:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
If I were you, I'd try editing non-controversial topics for awhile and show that you're a team player. Wait 6 months and then ease back into editing the areas that interest you with more of a collaborative mindset instead of a "right" mindset. No one's view is neutral, neutrality comes from recognizing the merits of other points of view.--v/r - T P 19:04, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello. There's a tool pages which I like a lot. And I have a question. Is there any method to get data from it in any other format like txt, json or xml? And, when is it planned to transfer it to Labs? ~Nirvanchik~ ⊤άλҟ 20:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Are the following ANI edits regarding discretionary sanctions for a firearms page, and a topic/page ban for another editor for firearms pages violtions of Salty's ban? [5] [6] Gaijin42 ( talk) 19:08, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey TP, I was wondering if there was anything wrong per-say about Public Affairs accounts on here, some sort of conflict of interest maybe. I ask because I found this account, 31st Fighter Wing Public Affairs ( talk · contribs), the other day when I was looking through the Aviano Air Base article revision history. I wasn't sure what to do but I figure you'd probably know more than anyone else I know. Regards, — - dain omite 02:27, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Hah! Found another one CJIATF 435 Public Affairs ( talk · contribs) However, instead of taking it to UAA I just posted the COI welcome message like User:EatsShootsAndLeaves did to the 31st PA account and bolded the noshare/corpname paragraph. — dain omite 21:19, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis, as we talked about on irc, this is me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CSteipp ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Too soon. Jreferee's last edit -- [7]. Give them time to digest the comments on Ayn Rand and their talk page; right now it's ready more clueless than intentionally disruptive, and you should start at WP:AE because the disruption is editing (even though he can only do so because of admin status -- it's still not what I would call an "admin action.") Suggest you revert the filing for now, and continue discussion before proceeding with enforcement venues. NE Ent 23:24, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I know this is a contentious subject, and am wondering if there are AE restrictions on articles relating to it? And who to report to regarding genocide denial on this issue, as well as a few others in fact. Darkness Shines ( talk) 17:56, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Just wanted to stop by and say the 1RR restriction for the article was a very good idea. I wish I had thought of it myself! Mark Arsten ( talk) 23:44, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis. Would you revise your close of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive254#RfC validity review requested? You wrote "Closure was endorsed as within admin discretion", but I JethroBT ( talk · contribs) is not an admin. Maybe insert "RfC closer" in place of "admin"?
Also, would you add a link to the AN discussion at Talk:Ayn Rand#Request for comment: Qualifying "philosopher" in the lead sentence, noting that the close was upheld after a community review? Thank you, Cunard ( talk) 10:26, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
1. ADDED BOOKS TO REFERENCES AND YOU DELETED IN 5 MINUTES.Perpetual Income: How-to Generate Cash Flow from Low-End House Investments by Bryan Wittenmyer (Jul 1, 1999)Page 32
Rent Reviews and Variable Rents Hardcover – December 1, 1984 by D.N. Clarke(Author) J.E. Adams (Author) PAGE 38
2.DO YOU HAVE A REASON FOR THIS.
3 ARE YOU WORKING FOR VRBO OR PAID IN THE TRAVEL INDUSTRY.
4.WHY WOULD YOU DELETE THIS THEN WITHOUT CHECKING THE BOOKS.
5.PLEASE FOWARD THIS TO THE RIGHT SECTION TO BE LIVE AGAIN AS THIS WAS UNFAIR.
6. IF NOT UNFAIR GIVE REASON AND YES WE HAD BOOKS REFERENCE US WHEN YOU DELETED IN 5 MINUTES Jayfrankauthor ( talk) 10:19, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
7.ALSO THIS IS A LIBRARY AND YES I AM YELLING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND TELLING EVERYONE .
8.WE BLOCKED YOUR SITE FROM OUR LIBRARY AS AT THIS POINT YOUR SITE LOOKS CORRUPT.
9.I AM INCLUDING A LETTER TO JIMMY WHALES FROM THE SCHOOL
10. I AM A FIGHTER AND THIS WILL NOT JUST GO AWAY. I AM IN FOR THE LONG HAUL AND I TRY TO MAKE A IMPACT ON THE WORLD NOT JUST A YES MAN.(DONT TREAT ME DIFFERENT THEN EVERYONE ELSE.)
10.if you did not do this then forward and be of help NOT A PERSON WHO ABUSES POWER AS MOST HERE ARE.!!!!.
Jayfrankauthor ( talk) 10:29, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Jayfrankauthor ( talk) 10:19, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis. Your user page seems to indicate a good editing background/peer review possibility for a Christianity article. I am thinking of recommending a page upgrade for a GA article to FA article status which may involve looking at one key book if this might be possible for you. It is presently available as a free twenty page preview on Amazon books. The book is the popularly received "Evil and the God of Love." Any possible interest? AutoJellinek ( talk) 20:14, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
For the Arbitration Committee, Rs chen 7754 01:29, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Please advise someone is starting business wars with me on Wikipedia. They put false information about my company and about it's employees here: /info/en/?search=MV_Seaman_Guard_Ohio. Furthermore you will notice most of the information is about the company when the article is supposed to be about a ship. It's not only inaccurate, but it's not even related to the article! I tried to edit it but they keep changing it back and now they have given me warnings as if I was the perpetrator of this business war! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmartin77 ( talk • contribs) 13:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Dave Dial ( talk) 19:42, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
As you previously participated in related discussions you are invited to comment at the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC for AfC reviewer permission criteria. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 05:01, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Greetings, mate Tparis. Nice to meet you. I am nos registered on en-wiki, but i am user in es-wiki. Mi username on that wiki is Leonpolanco. I use often your tool of editcount ( https://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/). But it is having dificults on es-wiki. It doesn't give the number of edit for the es-wiki, it appears the advice "Leonpolanco no existe" or other advice saying the account doesn't exist, though it exist; or it appears the advice (es.wikipedia.org esta Wiki no es válida). What is ocurring? Might you solutionate it, please? How could I report this dificult?. I let you my email, for your answer: (Redacted). Thanks. -- 189.202.28.73 ( talk) 20:41, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
You deleted Todd Kincannon in 2011 based on a PROD. It looks like he just turned up again. [8] As a former executive director of the South Carolina Republican Party and the subject of understandable media attention now, I expect an article will be restarted momentarily (indeed I was about to do so when I saw the notice), so I think it would be best to just undelete it in place before there's a second history to deal with. Wnt ( talk) 15:29, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article MV Seaman Guard Ohio incident is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MV Seaman Guard Ohio incident until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:00, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello TParis, I frequently use your tools, and they are very informative. I was curious if it is possible to increase the amount of results for the "Top Namespace Edits" tool (the default being 100). Or if there is another tool that serves the same purpose to find more than 100 results. I have been curious about this for awhile, so I thought might as well go straight to the source. Regards, STATic message me! 03:24, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Oh okay, thanks for the explanation. Regards, STATic message me! 16:20, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Since you contributed to the discussion resulting in the ban of Wikiexperts, you may want to consider the CEO's appeal at Wikipedia:AN#Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 17:57, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
You know, I was wondering what v/r stood for in all your posts! Anyhow, wanted to ask you a question about the Titus Andronicus situation. Given that the block on the page is being lifted tomorrow, I posted a question asking what happens next, given that you said three of the images were fine, I assumed those three could be put back. Perhaps I read too much into your post, I don't know. Whatever the case, when I asked the question, Werith responded with "Given the facts that have been established, (the files in question can be replaced, not easily but certainly doable), the files need to stay out of the article for failing WP:NFCC#1." This confuses me. Was there another discussion taking place somewhere? I didn't know any facts had been established. The vast majority of the editors involved in the discussion felt they didn't fail NFCC#1, yourself included. As an admin, I thought your points carried some weight, but was your involvement completely pointless? And also, is there no method of redress regarding a next move. Obviously, I can't just add them back or Werith would remove them, and we'd be back exactly where we started, so I'm wondering what one should do in these circumstances. Thanks very much. Bertaut ( talk) 23:40, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
The clarification request that you have filed has been archived, with no action taken: [9] For the Arbitration Committee, Rs chen 7754 05:33, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis,
Sorry to bother you. The reason I am contacting you is that the error page says you are looking after the script. Please let me know if this is inappropriate.
The "pcount" script seems to have stopped working for the German language Wikipedia in the last few days. (It is still working fine for the English language one, and the alternate "yaec" script is also still working even for the German language Wikipedia.)
pcount on de wikipedia seems to switch between the following behaviours since Saturday or Sunday:
pcount on en wikipedia on the other hand still works fine. Similarly it works for the English language Wiktionary, but not the German language one. Perhaps some server communications error?
Strangely, another script, yaec on de wikipedia, seems to have no problem accessing the German Wikipedia. (But perhaps it simply does less work and so is less affected by any network problems?)
Thanks.
-- SpecMade ( talk) 23:16, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for the move. Think you could re-unite Talk:IPad air with it's original host, iPad Air? I assume the page history of Talk:IPad Air should be preserved somehow. Marcus Qwertyus ( talk) 19:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
https://toolserver.org/~tparis/pages/index.php?name=Kaiyr&lang=ru&wiki=wikipedia&namespace=0&redirects=noredirects&getall=1 «Unknown database 'ruwiki_p'MySQL ERROR! Table 'toolserver.user' doesn't exist» - please fix. -- Sunpriat ( talk) 21:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
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Just to let you know, there's the beginnings of a discussion concerning your protection here. J Milburn ( talk) 10:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Cool. Just make sure everything is correct Thank you :) Bwmoll3 ( talk) 15:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Lou Sander notified the following individuals:
about a discussion where the dispute was "How should the mainstream view of "science has become a series of dogmas" be addressed in the lead?"
In order to determine if those individuals were supportive of the mainstream principles of science, we review their histories in the field.
Without arguing that this selection of editors are right or wrong about the content dispute (because we don't argue content here at this encyclopedia, just make sure no one uses the word fuck!), it is clear that the failure to notify vzaak, for instance, is glaring. Why was vzaak not notified? Should vzaak assume it's because he does not "know how to express opinions politely and helpfully?" That's incivil. Is it because Lou assumes vzaak will disagree with him? That's canvassing. Is it an oversight? Possibly, but then let's ask the same question about everyone who clearly disagrees with Lou on the talk page. OSTheRobot ( talk) 18:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I know you have better things to do than wade through the muck that section has become as the various sides again post their walls of only semi relevant text, particularly when you have also been pinged by someone who screams SOCK!!! I am sorry that I notified the editors which led to the new diarrhea of text, but I thought it was a necessary step when naming someone on the boards. I am hoping that my post that led to their notification doesn't get lost.
this notification by Lou is particularly telling. He titles the section heading with "Sheldrake/Tumbleman" although the section on the talk page has nothing to do with Tumbleman who had been indeffed several days before. Liz has been an ardent advocate encouraging Tumbleman and as can be seen here (uncollapse the Tumbleman results) Iantresman and Askahrc also speak in favor of him. None of the people who spoke against his actions in the AE were notified by Lou Sander. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 09:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- if you look at [ this discussion about whether or not to use the word "hypothesis" you will find in support of the idea (indeffed user Tumbleman), iantresman, Annalisa Ventola. none of the people speaking against the use of the word "hypothesis" were in the "randomly" selected users notified by Lou Sander. Do you need more? I hate to have people have to slog through the mire on this topic.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 09:47, 24 October 2013 (UTC)}
Thank you for your time. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:54, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I saw your notice.
I request an immediate relaxation in respect of the articles History of the metric system and International System of Units, both of which are currently being reviewed as WP:Good Articles.
I also request an immediate relaxation in respect of an SPA that I am about to place on another user.
Thank you.
Martinvl ( talk) 17:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
This time right? I don't care if the IP is blocked. I just want them to follow our guidelines - WP:REDACT, WP:SEEALSO, etc. -- NeilN talk to me 17:57, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello!
I have made a few attempts to clean up List of new religious movements, which is a list article with a long history of contention, topic bans, puppetry, even at least one major contributor who was de-sysoped. Unfortunately, I haven't been successful in the attempt at cleanup. I'm asking you to take a look at the recent activity on the article and the talk page. Although I have my own thoughts on what some of the issues are, I would rather get yours without my frustration bleeding through too heavily.
I am dropping this note for the most recently active admins I saw, and I am hopeful that those extra eyes will make a difference.
Thanks for considering it, cheers! -- Tgeairn ( talk) 21:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Curiosity: Did you get a little carried away with this revdel? [15] Or was it unfortunately necessary to protect that one red-link user who was supposedly being "outed"? ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:33, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Firstly I want to thank you for your work in this tool, very useful to most of wikipedians of all wikis; but this is not the matter I want to tell you.
Sometimes —and now from some days ago— I get a rare error when I try to count my edits on Spanish Wikipedia (my home wiki), with this message: ″Zerabat no existe″ (translated in english: ″Zerabat does not exist″). However, when I tried to see my edits on English Wikipedia, after a long time loading the page (toolserver is veeery slow) I finally saw my edits there. I do not know if it is an error when the tool try to connect to ESWIKI database or why, but this is not the only case I know in ESWIKI. My user account really exists. I would like to know what is the cause of this. Greets. -- Zerabat ( talk) 13:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I would also like to thank you for your contributions. And I also got the same experience on the German Wikipedia with the same error message while calling this URL
https://toolserver.org/%7Etparis/count/index.php?lang=de&wiki=wikipedia&name=Hippopotamus777
Regards
Hippopotamus777 (
talk) 21:02, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. I 've tried to use the tool to check the user's creations record, but it says: "Unknown database 'eswiki_p'MySQL ERROR! Table 'toolserver.user' doesn't exist". ¿It is posible to fix? Thanks a lot. Regards. Jaontiveros ( talk) 13:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Please restore our work with the new references that were supplied when you deleted the work. the old work from aperson that was deleted was resubmitted with hard back book copy this time please restore and go to my talk page. Drjonesesq ( talk) 08:09, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Easy to see the site is corrupt please ban me and my students. Your in deep with competitors wonder how much money they donated. Make sure and hurry to delete and suppress information from the public so you control what everyone will read. This is a embarrassment as a encyclopedia and you should be ashamed as this is nothing more than a place to advertise you proved that. Did not even check the hardback books please ban me you run a site so corrupt and I will post this all over the net you will see you cant silence me you bully. You cant even wait for the appeal can you. In 3 weeks I will start to post what you have done in all media formats so be careful when you try to silence voices for profit.. Drjonesesq ( talk) 09:55, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The Barnstar is greatly appreciated. Yes, it was a lot of work. I had thought of presenting it in a RfC/U, but that process seems Namby Pamby compared to the problem we faced. So I waited for the opportunity (e.g., for someone to say "te") rather than first strike myself and be accused of harassment. The comment we saw about "recently" learning about civility is pure flak. Back on 30 August I read "I think we need to be very careful to stay civil while still being honest and direct. It's not that easy, and when I slip, I will apologize and correct myself, especially if it's pointed out." Will the topic ban work? I had hoped for a block, but we will see. So I think continued reconnaissance is in order. – S. Rich ( talk) 15:43, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
I notice that in commendeding Srich for providing evidence (diffs) for his claims against User Miles, you noted that ANIs are often "mobs" acting in the absence of evidence ( 1). Leaving aside our disagreement on the particular case of Miles, your general observation indicates that the process is often a fraud and a travesty. Given your view in this regard, I think as an admin you have an obligation to push for general reform of the ANI process. Just a suggestion. Steeletrap ( talk) 18:40, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The references submitted meet all criteria and the work is not an ad of any kind Drjonesesq ( talk) 14:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
[16] Quite an inspirational story of courage in the most unlikely scenario. Slàinte mhath. Wee Curry Monster talk 22:36, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
An AE request involving you has been closed. The result is that the edit made in violation of the ban has been reverted, no other action is needed at this time. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:46, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Trick or Treat! Happy
Halloween TParis! I hope you have a great day and remember to be safe if you go
trick-or-treating tonight with friends, family or loved ones. Happy Halloween!
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omite 15:14, 31 October 2013 (UTC) Help spread Wikilove by adding {{subst:User:Dainomite/HappyHalloween}} to other users' talk pages whether they be friends, acquaintances or random folks. |
Happy Halloween! Steeletrap ( talk) 02:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC) |
Hi. I hatted the Ludwig von Mises discussion at AN/I because I felt it was going nowhere and unlikely to be resolved except in a formal DR process. Some editors in the discussion support my action but some have implored me to revert myself. I'd appreciate your independent review of my action and I will support you in whatever conclusion you draw, whether to endorse it, undo it, trout me, or what have you. Thanks, alanyst 17:45, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Je ne sais pas si c'est là qu'il faut l dire, mais moi non plus, Lepetitlord account does not exist. Ah bon ? Joyeuses fraises! Lepetitlord ( talk) 20:21, 2 November 2013 (UTC) |
Hi, I am using many of the tools hosted at http://toolserver.org/~tparis and they are working fine. I am mostly active in Bengali(bn) Wikipedia and want to start a project by which the users will get banstars automatically for their contributions. To do this i will need to build some tools to get different type of statistics for the active users. So i think it would be helpful if you can assist me here and if it is possible you can share the source code with me. thanks -- Nasir Khan Saikat ( talk) 16:38, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
It seems SCSI Express development is coming along fine, with the first products expected in the first half of 2014: http://www.slideshare.net/rbeetle/scsi-express-overview . The standard is definitely useful, as it allows SCSI disks to have a faster (12 Gb/s and 24 Gb/s) and simpler (direct PCIe, no intermediate controllers) connection. The deletion criteria for {{ SCSI_Express}} from 2011 no longer apply, and the page should be re-created. (Sorry if this is the wrong place to post such a request, I am a total Wikipedia newb.) Thanks! 95.165.40.193 ( talk) 17:38, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I don't believe that you would behave corruptly. In my dealings with you you have always struck me as a person of high integrity. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 17:27, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Many thanks for maintaining this edit counter. Lately, it seems it only works for my account at English Wikipedia. It says my user name does not exist at the other editions where I'm active (svwp is my home wiki), or it says there is no such wiki. Do you know what's up? Best of wishes.-- Paracel63 ( talk) 14:31, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
User:Coren said that he wasn't actually in charge of maintaining the X!'s Counter and to come to you (or the other two people) for this issue. The Counter says that "deleted edits has been delayed... until mid-October," seeing as it's November is there any new information to report? If not, could it be changed to simply "availability date is not yet determined" or something similar? Just a pet peeve of mine. Thanks for all the work you and the other maintainers do! Coinmanj ( talk) 01:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Although I never agreed to not post on PL's talkpage, he seems to have created his own rules that in order for him to agree to not post on mine, I was automagically not permitted to post on his. So, could you advise him of this NPA workshop. I would be very happy to "pay" for any personal attacks I have made against them ... however, I do not believe I have ever done any. I would be very pleased to respond to anything that PL can actually PROVE was a NPA as per the policy. As such, please invite PL to edit that workshop page and he can post on his talkpage when he's ready for me to respond to his proof ES &L 23:13, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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I think you did the right thing, and I admire you for bringing it out for others to review when it would have been easy to just say nothing. Guy Macon ( talk) 04:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC) |
Congrats! – S. Rich ( talk) 06:38, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for helping out yesterday but for some rason I could not reply to your E-mail. Luckely the auto block for my IP just expired. -- The Cosmos Master ( talk) 08:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis. Please be aware that Jimbo has appointed you as a member of the Electoral Commission for this election. Good luck, and thank you for volunteering. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Voluntold at work... Voluntold on Wikipedia. Damn, you just can't escape it TP! — dain omite 16:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Sekolah menengah agama al falah atau dikenali sebagai smaaf yang terletak di daerah raub negeri pahang. Sekolah ini bertapak di batu talam. Selo5ah ioi telah pun memenangi tempat pertama dalam pertandingan 4k bagi ketegori B pada tahun 2011 dan pada tahun 2012 telah memenangi hanya di tempat ke dua. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Molokyz ( talk • contribs) 11:32, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
That's quite the lengthy series of discussions occurring on User talk:Jimbo Wales regarding some paid editing you have performed. Have you ever considered adding a box on your user page to list and disclose articles that you have received compensation for creating or editing? This seems like it would address some of the concerns at Wales' talk page while taking minimal effort. Another idea is to create a page listing stated articles, with a link to said page on your user page.
Another option to consider is adding {{
Connected contributor}}
to the talk pages of articles you have received compensation for contributing to or creating. I've noticed this tag on article talk pages that COI and paid editors have contributed to.
Just some friendly suggestions for you to consider. Cheers, Northamerica1000 (talk) 13:58, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
...For the work you are doing related to the UTRS system. I'm not active in that area, so know little about it, except that it seems to be an enormously successful solution to a problem. It is unfortunate that I'm only aware of it as a result of your comment on Jimbo's page, but maybe all clouds have a silver lining. -- S Philbrick (Talk) 16:21, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Have you been tinkering with the edit counter? 25% of it has been modified, and now it's broken.— cyberpower ChatAbsent 05:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
"Warning: Do not use the Labs Project (this site) if you do not agree to the following: information shared with the Labs Project, including usernames and passwords, will be made available to volunteer administrators and may not be treated confidentially."
This implies that you're storing unencrypted/unhashed passwords. Is this actually true? If so, this needs to be fixed, like, immediately. If you are hashing passwords or something reasonably equivalent, then sorry for raising a false alarm, but if this is true, this is totally unacceptable. Shirik ( Questions or Comments?) 16:54, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, when I attempt to use this tool to see which categories I created, [17] it seems to work but gives me lots of errors on the screen. Can you take a look when you get a chance? thanks! -- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 18:56, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Top edits hasn't been updating my info for about more than week now. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 02:12, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Was milesMoney's topic ban revoked? [18] Gaijin42 ( talk) 03:45, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Just FYI, you've deleted the page Belal taheri, but the page (newly set up but with the same problems) still stands as Belal Taheri (with proper capitalization).-- Akhooha ( talk) 03:18, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
TParis,
Could I please have a copy of Michael Birch (journalist) in my sandbox to work on. I have a project whereby students write about journalists who have been killed, imprisoned or mistreated for their journalism. I think this is a worthy project to put more work into and develop. Crtew ( talk) 03:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Tom -- I read your post at AN/I and thought of This, probably not what you are looking for, but Bish mentioned it a couple months back. Hope all is well! Lettik ( talk) 19:42, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
184.151.190.0 ( talk) 23:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Federico Pistono. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 4v4l0n42 ( talk) 02:53, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis, (or do I call you T? TP? Paris? v/r?) Anyways, thanks so much for you help. I guess I'll hold on editing for now until I hear from you on how this works. By the way, just call me wolf. Thanks again. - thewolfchild 03:06, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi TP. I notice you closed this AfD but the deletion notices are still on the additional 3 nominated pages. Please take another look. Thanks, C 679 21:55, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm not convinced you got this right - I don't see a consensus for saying that the warning must come from an uninvolved Administrator. And given that no one seems to want to monitor this area, that restriction becomes even more of a problem - and a suggestions that involved Administrators can't be trusted to warn someone. Could you take a look again, and either revise or reopen please? Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 16:54, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey there, you recently closed two AfDs ( [19] [20]) as redirect, but the pages had been moved prior to close, so you ended up redirecting the pagemove redirect instead. While this isn't really your fault, could you try to be a bit more careful in the future? Thanks, Ansh 6 6 6 21:16, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Can you delete and salt this? It has an asterisk. -- George Ho ( talk) 01:30, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
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I appreciate the unblock, but even more strongly appreciate the "Kashmir example" of topic bans. It's a wise example that can only come from an equally wise mind. MarshalN20 | Talk 14:59, 19 November 2013 (UTC) |
You added UTRS #9348 to the OPP queue, but did you add the IP to WP:OPP? I don't see it there...-- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 21:01, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
dear TParis, please see.. what happened here-- Sugeesh ( talk) 15:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Changes_to_Wikipedia:General_sanctions_warnings.2Fnotifications_ok.3F. Just so we can get this finalized at Wikipedia talk:General sanctions before someone two weeks from now notices and has a fit or whatever. Sorry for not quite grasping what was going on first time around. Too much frustrating stuff to deal with on wikipedia sometimes. Sigh... User:Carolmooredc talk 17:09, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I am Fung Hok Yan, I am asking for reasons why you deleted my wiki article Humans of Hong Kong? I have read through the pages you suggested and I think my page was fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Funghokyan ( talk • contribs) 18:39, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
TParis- being new to this- may I respectfully ask how best to make better referenced changes to this page so that it is not this version which I believe is not very good (as even red pen of doom has remarked)? I am hopeful to at least be able to make it look more like the prior version with good references, and without instigating any type of edit war as seemed to occur with others....this current 'consensus' version is not very appealing either. This is not any type of argument, just seeking advice/help on moving forward from this very early edition.
v/r Wordasaurus ( talk) 21:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)word
It's my understanding that you are mentoring this editor. Do you think that his spate of comments on WP:ANI is the best behavior for an editor who escaped a community indef block by the skin of his teeth? Beyond My Ken ( talk) 00:50, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Obviously, I disagree with your take on clean starts. A clean start is not, and cannot be, carte blanche which prevents editors from asking any editor who draws attention to themselves, as this subject did, what's going on. If it was, every vandal, troll and miscreant would be clean starting all over the place. It's clear from the clean start policy that the subject of the clean start has to meet the community half way, and that means not editing in the areas they edited in before and not drawing attention to themselves, say by posting on one of the highest volume pages in the project "I didn't do X because I didn't wish to arouse undue suspicion."
As for thewolfchild, I was not referring only to his egregious behavior on the thread that involved me, but to his comments throughout AN/I today. They are not a matter of "passion", they are a matter of very bad judgment on his part, and as his mentor, I think it might be a good idea to help him get past that, since other instances of bad judgment almost got him indeffed. To my eye, he's very close to being a net negative to the project, which you might consider to be one of the goals of the mentoring project, to refocus him onto content and away from comment. Best, Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:15, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
On the main subject, I think you may be missing something about mentoring thewolfchild. It's certainly the case that his behavior needs to be better controlled, but it's also the case that his focus seems to be entirely in the wrong place. Were I mentoring him (and I concede that I would be a terrible mentor, which is why I have turned down the possibility the couple of times it came up), I would touch not only on the "passion", but on the types of edits he's making. We all know we're here to build an encyclopedia, and most of us also know how easy it is to get sucked into the maw of the various dramah boards; it's hard to resist, but it's got to be secondary to improving articles (or templates or categories or whatever). From my look at TWC's edit counts, he's much too involved in the bad stuff, and does too little of the good stuff. I think that's a point you should be making with him as well. Just my opinion, of course, and worth exactly what you paid for it, but there it is. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:38, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 19:30, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey there. As the current Major Events Coordinator and planner of the SUNY Purchase Culture Shock festival, I am a bit dismayed to see that the page has been deleted. I noticed that the claims repeatedly stated issues of notability, which I am a bit confused about. There are various student-run newspapers on campus that make explicit mention about various topics concerning the festival, and our school even has senior projects (required for receipt of a Bachelor's degree) that are about the logistics and coordination of the festival. Would love to discuss further. -Ray Chalmé — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.79.170.212 ( talk) 22:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi. In this message, you didn't include a timestamp, which will result in "zombie" talk page posts, as archive bots will not archive threads that do not include an identifiable timestamp. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 00:36, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
No rush :) Ish dar ian 02:56, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for all your work in coordinating the ArbCom election. Between your technical knowledge, communication skills, and overall conscientiousness, I am glad you are on the job, and want you to know that you are doing a great job "rolling with the punches". Thank you again for your tireless work, and please keep it up. Go Phightins ! 04:13, 26 November 2013 (UTC) |
On the edit counter which X! wrote and you maintain, the one for me shows only 50 edits for this month (Nov), when I know I have made many more. This also happened when I looked on another use's edit count. Is there a bug? Rcsprinter (message) @ 22:14, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
I have created a new report on the ANI noticeboard regarding the block of Joefromrandb. TigerShark ( talk) 23:17, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Afrer recasting my vote, there appears to be still some busgs. What i got was:
SPID: 5587 -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux)
followed by a page of alphanumeric computer code. Link to report this didn't work either. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 15:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you closed MarshalN20's appeal discussion. Could you explain how you came to the conclusion that there was not only a consensus, but a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors" (see WP:AEBLOCK) for the result you reached? At first glance, there is at least one participant, Cambalachero, whose uninvolvedness appears doubtful, based on their being sanctioned in the underlying arbitration case. I'd be interested to know whether you evaluated the degree of involvedness of the participants, and what "uninvolved" means in this context as applied to editors, in your opinion (it's undefined in the relevant ArbCom remedy, as well as in the recent appeals policy draft). Sandstein 19:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
User | Opinion | Involved | Notes | |
Wee Curry Monster | Unblock | Involved | ||
EatsShootsAndLeaves | Endorse | |||
ChrisGualtieri | Endorse | |||
Sjakkalle | Unblock | w/ admonishment | ||
Darkness Shines | Unblock | |||
DES | Unblock | w/ admonishment | ||
Beyond My Ken | Endorse | |||
Cambalachero | Unblock | Involved | ||
Lukeno94 | Unblock | |||
Chelios | Endorse | |||
Nyttend | Unblock | |||
Someone not using his real name | Unblock | |||
Rockfang | Unblock | |||
Sven Manguard | Unblock | |||
Hobit | Unblock | |||
Laser brain | Endorse | grey area | ||
North8000 | Unblock | |||
Kahastok | Unblock | |||
72.2% favor unblock | ||||
I see a 72.2% consensus toward an unblock here in terms of a count of editors and their opinions. However, the strongest argument I felt was made by Cambalachero. Discounting his argument on the basis of involved seemed ad hominem to me. Specifically, "culture is influenced by history" is what particularly caught my attention. Even if I were to ignore the two involved votes, 68% is still a supermajority. Another thing that influenced my devision was that even Laser brain admitted it was a grey area and I recall a Big Bang Theory episode where Priya Koothrappali describes Contra proferentem.--v/r - T P 02:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your thorough explanation, and I hope you are better now.
Your assessment of consensus is defensible, but I am concerned that by overturning the block the editors who supported the appeal may in effect have narrowed the topic ban considerably. As imposed by the Arbitration Committee ("all articles, discussions, and other content related to the history of Latin America, broadly construed") it clearly applies, in my view, to the article Chile–Peru football rivalry because it is entirely about events in the past of two Latin American countries. This raises the question about whether the editors who supported the appeal – or you, by implementing its outcome – have violated the Arbitration Committee's decision, or the policy that Arbitration Committee decisions are final and binding ( WP:AP). I'd appreciate your opinion about whether a request for clarification could help determine whether this manner of proceeding is consistent with applicable policy, or whether the appeals rules require clarification to prevent the impermissible amendment of Arbitration Committee decisions by other editors. Sandstein 20:44, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey Tom, hope you have gotten over the man flu. Just want to point out, I am not involved with MN20, I asked him for a translation. All this post by K is showing is that he has a severe battlefield mentality with regards to MN20, and now obviously myself. Darkness Shines ( talk) 16:42, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Hatting was great, but perhaps you could change your hatting comment to something, uh, more detached. :-) -- Bbb23 ( talk) 22:03, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I sent it to you yesterday. Just wanted to see if you got it. — cyberpower ChatOnline 14:03, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Care to use User_talk:Shirt58#Hello / User_talk:Shirt58#Hello_2 as a teachable point? Toddst1 ( talk) 05:24, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi TP, I've just begun changing the links from tools on the toolsever with the same link on labs for the MediaWiki:Gadget-dropdown-menus gadget (the updated .jsis in my userspace). The only equivalent tool I haven't found is the edit summary calculator. Have I missed it or is the transition not completed yet? Regards, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 02:38, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
I got an HTTP 502 error here. [23] "invalid response from an upstream server ... could not handle the request GET /xtools/pcount/index.php ... Error reading from remote server" Presumably this is related to migration, and I'll note that around the same timespan a Scottywong thingamajig over at toolserver.org needed 623 seconds to work (100x more than normal), though this might be unrelated coincidence, rather than intertwined symptom.
The homepage [24] works fine, but clicking on xtools there does not work fine. Both cyberpower and tparis are listed there for xtools, and I see them both here as well, so it looks like I came to the right place. :-) I'm in no hurry, but prolly I'm not the only one depending on xtools either, so if somebody can look into this, it would be appreciated. Danke.
p.s. Java==JScript over on wiktionary because they accept UseNet as a reliable source of linguistic attestation, and in particular, "HOW TO MAKE A JAVA ALERT POP UP ON LOAD" from 1996 is their evidence. Hard to argue that people are confused about the meaning of words, when only two things are conceivably infinite. — 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 15:57, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I believe I have finished migrating all the used tools. Can you make a local backup of your toolserver account? Also, can you tell me if I missed something?— cyberpower Online Happy Thanksgiving 00:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
This is why I find him(?) strongly nuanced. The depth of perception and thought that went into that decision is a level of wisdom and intelligence I could never achieve. Dloh cierekim 21:58, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Just a reminder to you. If you can possibly replace all of the index.php files in the tools with the redirector script, it'd be greatly appreciated. Can you also renew your toolserver account to keep them redirecting until toolserver shuts down? Here's a big juicy steak just for you.— cyberpower Online Merry Christmas 14:50, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
That was my 2nd warning. See User talk:JamesMoose#Inappropriate username. The first was Nov 24 which was quite a while ago, and the user ignored my message. You may feel that there is some ambiguity in referring to [added Andrevan @ 03:54, 13 December 2013 (UTC)] treating women as sexual property, but to me this is unambiguously offensive. Andrevan @ 02:16, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
I have added the words "referring to" to my comment above to clarify what I meant, which was not to insinuate that you are personally OK with the sexual trafficking itself - what we are discussing here is its reference in a username. Hope that helps slightly. Andrevan @ 03:54, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. It stopped working some 2 days ago. When you try to scan category it says "Could not connect to ruwiki.labsdb : Access denied for user 'p50380g50536'@'10.4.1.120' (using password: YES)". Can you handle this? ~Nirvanchik~ ⊤άλҟ 21:16, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Hey TParis, this is more of an academic thing because I'm not disputing your action in any way, but I would think that any administrator has the authority to put a talk page unblock request on hold pending resolution of a noticeboard discussion. If they do that, there's no reason to prevent them from commenting in that discussion unless they plan to close the discussion later (which I didn't). Would you disagree? I'll be happy to take your advice into consideration for the next time. NW ( Talk) 23:10, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis, just a small point of procedure here. You recently closed the ANI discussion about whether or not JClemens should be unblocked. [25] However, since one of the things that was being discussed was your own rationale for denying the unblock request, it probably should not have been you who closed that discussion. It would have been better to let someone else do it, or to leave the discussion open. Especially since it's such a hot discussion right now, and it involves admins disagreeing with admins, it's probably best to keep everything as strictly by the book as possible. Of course, what's done is done at this point, and I'm not asking you to re-open the discussion... Just thought I'd point that out! -- El on ka 14:45, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
I think I'm pretty objective about this. :) I spoke in favor of your rationale in the discussion, remember? Curious though, I saw your 67% number in your ArbCom statement, and I was curious about how you derived that? On my read, the block/unblock comments were pretty much even. [26] No clear consensus either way, but no compelling reason to rapidly close the discussion, either. -- El on ka 21:20, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
The arbitration case request that you were a party to has been declined by the Committee. For the Arbitration Committee, Rs chen 7754 05:27, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hello, TParis. Over the years, I have found some of your tools (originally at toolserver) extremely useful, and I should like to thank you for them. As you are no doubt aware, migration to labs has not entirely been trouble-free, and sometimes it has been difficult to determine whether a tool has been removed, or merely moved to somewhere unexpected, making it hard to find. I wonder if you can tell me whether there is any currently available tool for checking for autoblocks? Not having one creates significant difficulties, probably the worst being the inability to check for autoblocks when an account is unblocked, which means that sometimes the account effectively stays blocked. JamesBWatson ( talk) 15:34, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I am a use of Italian Wikipedia, and it was some time I was not verifying my edit count. When I did today, I was modified that the tool was permanently moved on Labs (fair enough). Unfortunately, when I landed there, there was no stats to be seen, apparently the thing is not working. Could you please verify and make me know why this happens? The link I followed was http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/count/index.php?name=Ferdinando%20Scala&lang=it&wiki=wikipedia. You can fin me on it.wiki at Utente:Ferdinando Scala. thanks a lot in advance and happy Christmas!-- Ferdinando Scala ( talk) 15:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
I'll answer here since that thread is getting out of hand.
I do recall the Balloon boy hoax but I don't see how it applies. We know that on-the-spot reports should be taken with a grain of salt: reports of Jewish guns being confiscated in 1938 come from that government or from reporting, but basic accuracy and fact-checking wasn't always possible. Besides, lots of other things were confiscated and the sources (I listed one on that talk page) seem to agree that it was of little relevance since "the Jews" were not much in the way of an armed part of the population--many of their weapons were memorabilia from World War I, and many weapons were not firearms. In other words, the importance of weapons confiscations is highly questionable. In addition, the 1938 legislation, as I pointed out on the talk page, also involved loosening gun restrictions on hunters and NSDAP members, which strikes me as much more important than taking a couple of rusty old pistols from WWI veterans--hunters and Nazis had much easier access to weapons and ammunition and (I think the record is clear) Nazis actually did something with those weapons. It's not like there was a vigilant and heavily armed Jewish citizenry. So, a report that some guns were confiscated from the 1938 NYT lacks context and presents undue-ness: they could barely report on how many guns were legally acquired, without the need for a permit, by Nazis who could freely wave them around to intimidate their opponents.
The POV on the Gun control page boils down to this: the Nazis exercised gun control over the Jews so gun control is evil; the larger one is "authoritarian regimes (routinely) employ gun control to render their opponents (more) harmless"--you can find that in various shapes and off-handed comments on the talk page. It's masked by being represented as objectively established fact. But those facts are not uncontested. It is a fact that the 1938 law barred Jews from gun ownership (and other related things) in certain ways. But that fact alone is meaningless, since lots of governments exercise gun control, and picking one country, one historical period, over all others is undue: it suggests undue importance. I have brought that up on the talk page, but the opponents haven't addressed that. To avoid undue-ness, really all countries and all times should be mentioned--not just Hitler and Mao.
A more general point is the NRA POV, exemplified by citations from Wayne LaPierre and Neal Knox as I found them in the 1968 gun law article. Citing their opinion on past gun legislation could be valid in an article on opinions on past gun legislation, but that's not what we're talking about here. These articles concern historical fact, and the synthesis of someone like Knox concerning who saw and knew and copied what in the process of writing the 1968 legislation is simply not relevant in those articles. And as I and others noted there are serious problems with citing these Google snippets, for reasons I don't have to go into, I hope. You're a reasonable man and you know that context matters, and that snippets by definition can't give much context. So I find that citing those snippets, against better judgment and against the opinion of other editors, is just as disruptive or more so than removing them. Because the opposite position of "authoritarian regimes use gun control etc." is not the opposite POV, "authoritarian regimes don't use gun control etc." And if such regimes exercise(d) gun control, it works in all kinds of ways--not just restricting it to one category; and if they did it's hardly one of the more meaningful aspects of their legislation. (Note that one editor accused Goethean and others of abusing the memory of six million dead Jews! an awful personal insult.) Rather, the opposite is "the record does not prove that authoritarian used gun control in a meaningful way to further their political goals". That statement is an opinion also, a meta opinion if you will, but I and others maintain that the suggested slant in the article is simply not proven. In other words, the POVs on either side are not equivalent: removing a POV is not automatically POV, so to speak. Well, that's enough for now. Take it easy, Drmies ( talk) 17:20, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Also, I want to elaborate a bit on that first thing--I was painting a doorway just now, and that's an excellent occasion to think. You mention the balloon hoax, which I assume you used to prove that contemporary press reports should be cited. Well, the hoax was precisely about that immediate coverage, which turned out to be incorrect, so of course that's acceptable. But citing on-the-spot reports from reliable sources poses significant dangers: I wrote up SS Sirio a while ago, a ship full of Italian and Spanish immigrants that wrecked. The NYT and other sources reported at the time that male Italian passengers armed with knives prevented women and children from getting on the lifeboats; turns out, of course, that this was nothing but slander (of the racist kind) concocted in the heat of the moment. I don't think such reports were retraced by those papers, but later historical research set the record straight. That is the danger with allowing on-the-spot reports, even if made in otherwise reliable sources, and it's the kind of stuff that cannot go into our articles unless seriously encapsulated in modifying phrases--and even then, one should question the value of such reports. Something similar happened in the case of John M. Bacon, a US general involved in a skirmish with native Americans: one contradictory report followed another. In other words, I seriously doubt the value of such reports, and the willy-nilly citation thereof. Happy days, Drmies ( talk) 19:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Regarding Gaijin42, I think he's gone over the top in this instance, but I generally have a great deal of respect for his sense of fairness and decency and a good deal of esteem for him as an editor. He was one of the standout voices of sanity and basic human decency in the demoralizing cesspit at Talk:Shooting of Trayvon Martin, for instance, and while his political views are hardly difficult to ascertain I think he's generally able to edit neutrally and productively. MastCell Talk 23:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Collectively, the four of us have at least two decades experience on this project. I think eacth of us could easily point to a time when we saw editors de-prioritizing high quality sources and emphasizing other sources instead. Sometimes we were able to address the matter and sometimes we lost the argument. The solution is not to start cutting standards everywhere but to instead highlight cases where editors are trying to push any type of source – be it a geocities website or Daily Kos or the Heritage Foundation – over serious scholarship. If you see that, bring it up. You can't complain about bias unless you make an attempt to address it. If what you mean is that we are "biased" to the consensus of English-speaking historians, sociologists, political scientists and other scholars, well, in that case I have less sympathy for that position. We are, after all, purporting to create an English-language encyclopedia. NW ( Talk) 01:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
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I think you want your Chelsea/Bradley reversion consistent here (i.e. the first Chelsea should be a Bradley) - or is the problem in my brain (would be no surprise, I'm 5 timezones from home with 24h non-stop travel time ;-). -- Stephan Schulz ( talk) 11:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughts on an ArbCom case. I think it is sorely needed -- I and several (many?) others feel that some admins have abused their privileges. It feels a bit like peasants vs. the monarchy, as some have analogized. As I have stated throughout and as the ArbCom case should work, my problem at the core is with admin excesses rather than with any actual content debate.
I liked the statement on your user page:
"The problem with the world, as I see it, is that everyone views it as a battleground. Advocates are the warriors in that battleground. I like a little more sensibility and respect for opponents."
Although these frustrations can fry a person's patience I appreciate your level head and commitment to being reasonable. CaseyPenk ( talk) 18:04, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Just curious — will this have any effect on those of us who aren't blocked and who don't/haven't had access to UTRS? Nyttend ( talk) 21:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Hey TParis - I left a follow-up question for you regarding UTRS #8586. Cheers, -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 20:10, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- seems to have gone haywire. It's looks as if it's not loading the CSS or something, but all the horizontal barcharts are missing too. This may be something to do with the glitches that were caused by the recent https default. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:33, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
My talk - David Gerard ( talk) 15:22, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
You said this:
Which is a sideswipe at me. You called me "transphobic, hateful or ignorant". I am none of the above. I am also a named living person, and unless you have evidence to back up your assertions, you should strike that. It may not have been your intention, but you criticized me in a public forum without notifying me so I could respond. Moreover, it was a low blow to attack my reputation after I had already struck part of the underlying comment, [2] after David explained that he was troubled by it. David was courteous. I was courteous. Were you?
Could you trim your statement? There directions request 500 words maximimum. An arbitration request is not the place to lay out a bunch of evidence. I think you need to focus on explaining why arbitration is needed if you want to succeed with the request.
Know that I like to speak plainly. Once this matter is resolved between us, I will quickly forget about it. Jehochman Talk 01:11, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Will the Autoedits, Edit summary counter & Top namespace edits also migrated to the Wikimedia Labs? Armbrust The Homunculus 18:15, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey TParis,
Would you be able to do me a favour and reduce the word count of your request to below 700 words? The amount of quotations is a very excessive. Rather than wholly quoting, you should summarize and link to the diff or simply put them in expandable sections like you have previously. Would be really appreciated.
Thanks :)
Seddon talk 19:30, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi TP
I was surprised by your comment at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case, in which you said "I would ask the committee to show how the article's title has caused actual, not perceived, harm to the subject".
That approach demolishes our BLP policy, because it requires us to do nothing to protect a living person until we have evidence that harm has already been done. The whole thrust of WP:BLP is precautionary: to proactively avoid damage, rather than to desist after the harm has been done.
BL says The idea expressed in WP:Eventualism – that every Wikipedia article is a work in progress, and that it is therefore okay for an article to be temporarily unbalanced because it will eventually be brought into shape – does not apply to biographies. Given their potential impact on biography subjects' lives, biographies must be fair to their subjects at all times.
I know that you and I take a different view about what is fair here, but that's a separate issue. Whatever measure of fairness is adopted, we don't wait until we have already screwed up someone's life before being fair. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 00:31, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee has passed a temporary injunction in the case in which you are a party to. The full text of the injunction follows:
The articles " Bradley Manning", " United States v. Manning", and " Chelsea Manning gender identity media coverage" are placed under standard discretionary sanctions for the duration of the case. Unless otherwise provided for in the final decision, any sanction imposed pursuant to this injunction will automatically lapse upon the closure of the case.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee,
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Hello. Just letting you know that I responded to your question at User talk:Zyxw#Nav Popups. -- Zyxw ( talk) 23:22, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
I made a very minor edit to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute#Statement by TParis - I inserted a space between two words. Feel free to revert if you wish. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 00:30, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute/Evidence. Please add your evidence by September 23, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Seddon talk 10:57, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis - Is the UTRS migration to Wikimedia Labs complete? The interface is really messy right now, especially when you zoom in on an appeal.-- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 19:22, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis, please excuse me if I'm not following proper procedure and/or formatting with this post. I am brand new to having a Wiki account and hope I'm doing this right.
I'm posting about a deleted page, about the folklore behind a now defunct indie band called Lifter Puller. It looks as if the deletion of the page was correct according to the Wiki's rules against original content. I was wonder if there's a way for me to see the information though. It simply doesn't exist anywhere anymore and I've become rather infatuated with the band and the investigating the depth of the stories the lyrics tell has become a bit of an obsession.
Could you possibly provide this information? Thanks ten million in advance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifter_Puller_Folklore — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOEYtheNICK ( talk • contribs) 00:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Just for the record, since the proposed decisions (and the final decisions) use diffs in findings of fact and the such, it is more beneficial to reproduce the diff alongside your proposed FoFs. (This also reduces the chance that things are overlooked.) - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 08:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
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Can you please look at what sceptre did on this page? This is exactly one of the chief issues in the arbitration case. Two kinds of pork ( talk) 23:28, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, you're right - I confused Evidence with Workshop. The problem is that we're looking at a group that suffers from discrimination. The messages I linked that you object to are ones denying the group exists, and thus denying that the group has any rights, since they don't exist. Now, note I'm not calling for all users who make such comments to necessarily be sanctioned or anything like that, but such comments surely must count as evidence of prejudice against the group being displayed on Wikipedia, which is, if you look at the Workshop page, how my evidence is being used. I can't see how your conclusions about my evidence follow from my statements, particularly as I set out exactly which criteria I was using to judge the statements. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 15:46, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I think the use of mangled is in reference to the article and radical political advocacy is about the folks actually advocating on the talk page. I'd say the case of advocacy on that talk page is about as strong as the case of transphobia. There are instances of it, but we'd disagree on how much and what to do about it.
I appreciate your willingness to discuss this, it's been tough to find people to build bridges with.--v/r - T P 17:39, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
The commandant of the Marine Corps was a particularly outspoken advocate on the topic. He circulated a paper by the Corps chaplain arguing that "Legislators and military leaders have a legitimate role to play in checking the spread of homosexual behavior, especially among young people whose minds and characters are in formative stages." ( [4]) That's political advocacy. Hell, he went so far as to write a newspaper op-ed—the canonical form of political advocacy—making the case that admitting gays to the military would be risky, and threatening mass resignations in the officer corps if the ban were lifted. (Of course, this is the same Marine Corps commandant who had a habit of claiming that minority officers couldn't swim, shoot, or read a compass as well as white officers, but the point stands). The military played a central political role in the development of policy on this issue, and DADT is very much a construct of the military. MastCell Talk 19:54, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Another way of thinking about it: you're obligated to follow the law, yes. You're also obligated to follow your superior's orders. What if the orders are prejudicially motivated? A prejudicial/politically-motivated order from a general officer could (would?) filter down and color the entire military. How, then, can one say that the military as an organization is apolitical and non-prejudicial if it might have been built on orders that are themselves prejudicial and political? For a concrete example, look at racial segregation in the US military (as it was prior to 1948). The entire organization of the military was designed around the segregation of blacks and whites, and discrimination against blacks (separate units for blacks, which were still commanded by white officers, etc.) How could that not make the military itself, as an organization, prejudicial? Obviously, that's no longer true as far as segregation goes, but t it does illustrate that the military can be--and indeed has been--prejudicial and political. Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 20:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
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The second one doesn't make sense unless you've read the first one p b p 16:58, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
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He can do no wrong. I've lost hope in any hope of engaging with him. Everything he does is right and justified, no mistakes are ever made, and it's always someone else's fault.-- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 15:13, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the notice of the topic ban. I am curious of the process involved in this. Are administrator topic bans normally made with the consensus of several administrators, or is just one administrator needed to establish administrator 'consensus'? SaltyBoatr get wet 17:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
If I were you, I'd try editing non-controversial topics for awhile and show that you're a team player. Wait 6 months and then ease back into editing the areas that interest you with more of a collaborative mindset instead of a "right" mindset. No one's view is neutral, neutrality comes from recognizing the merits of other points of view.--v/r - T P 19:04, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello. There's a tool pages which I like a lot. And I have a question. Is there any method to get data from it in any other format like txt, json or xml? And, when is it planned to transfer it to Labs? ~Nirvanchik~ ⊤άλҟ 20:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Are the following ANI edits regarding discretionary sanctions for a firearms page, and a topic/page ban for another editor for firearms pages violtions of Salty's ban? [5] [6] Gaijin42 ( talk) 19:08, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey TP, I was wondering if there was anything wrong per-say about Public Affairs accounts on here, some sort of conflict of interest maybe. I ask because I found this account, 31st Fighter Wing Public Affairs ( talk · contribs), the other day when I was looking through the Aviano Air Base article revision history. I wasn't sure what to do but I figure you'd probably know more than anyone else I know. Regards, — - dain omite 02:27, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Hah! Found another one CJIATF 435 Public Affairs ( talk · contribs) However, instead of taking it to UAA I just posted the COI welcome message like User:EatsShootsAndLeaves did to the 31st PA account and bolded the noshare/corpname paragraph. — dain omite 21:19, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis, as we talked about on irc, this is me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CSteipp ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Too soon. Jreferee's last edit -- [7]. Give them time to digest the comments on Ayn Rand and their talk page; right now it's ready more clueless than intentionally disruptive, and you should start at WP:AE because the disruption is editing (even though he can only do so because of admin status -- it's still not what I would call an "admin action.") Suggest you revert the filing for now, and continue discussion before proceeding with enforcement venues. NE Ent 23:24, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I know this is a contentious subject, and am wondering if there are AE restrictions on articles relating to it? And who to report to regarding genocide denial on this issue, as well as a few others in fact. Darkness Shines ( talk) 17:56, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Just wanted to stop by and say the 1RR restriction for the article was a very good idea. I wish I had thought of it myself! Mark Arsten ( talk) 23:44, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis. Would you revise your close of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive254#RfC validity review requested? You wrote "Closure was endorsed as within admin discretion", but I JethroBT ( talk · contribs) is not an admin. Maybe insert "RfC closer" in place of "admin"?
Also, would you add a link to the AN discussion at Talk:Ayn Rand#Request for comment: Qualifying "philosopher" in the lead sentence, noting that the close was upheld after a community review? Thank you, Cunard ( talk) 10:26, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
1. ADDED BOOKS TO REFERENCES AND YOU DELETED IN 5 MINUTES.Perpetual Income: How-to Generate Cash Flow from Low-End House Investments by Bryan Wittenmyer (Jul 1, 1999)Page 32
Rent Reviews and Variable Rents Hardcover – December 1, 1984 by D.N. Clarke(Author) J.E. Adams (Author) PAGE 38
2.DO YOU HAVE A REASON FOR THIS.
3 ARE YOU WORKING FOR VRBO OR PAID IN THE TRAVEL INDUSTRY.
4.WHY WOULD YOU DELETE THIS THEN WITHOUT CHECKING THE BOOKS.
5.PLEASE FOWARD THIS TO THE RIGHT SECTION TO BE LIVE AGAIN AS THIS WAS UNFAIR.
6. IF NOT UNFAIR GIVE REASON AND YES WE HAD BOOKS REFERENCE US WHEN YOU DELETED IN 5 MINUTES Jayfrankauthor ( talk) 10:19, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
7.ALSO THIS IS A LIBRARY AND YES I AM YELLING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND TELLING EVERYONE .
8.WE BLOCKED YOUR SITE FROM OUR LIBRARY AS AT THIS POINT YOUR SITE LOOKS CORRUPT.
9.I AM INCLUDING A LETTER TO JIMMY WHALES FROM THE SCHOOL
10. I AM A FIGHTER AND THIS WILL NOT JUST GO AWAY. I AM IN FOR THE LONG HAUL AND I TRY TO MAKE A IMPACT ON THE WORLD NOT JUST A YES MAN.(DONT TREAT ME DIFFERENT THEN EVERYONE ELSE.)
10.if you did not do this then forward and be of help NOT A PERSON WHO ABUSES POWER AS MOST HERE ARE.!!!!.
Jayfrankauthor ( talk) 10:29, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi TParis. Your user page seems to indicate a good editing background/peer review possibility for a Christianity article. I am thinking of recommending a page upgrade for a GA article to FA article status which may involve looking at one key book if this might be possible for you. It is presently available as a free twenty page preview on Amazon books. The book is the popularly received "Evil and the God of Love." Any possible interest? AutoJellinek ( talk) 20:14, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
For the Arbitration Committee, Rs chen 7754 01:29, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Please advise someone is starting business wars with me on Wikipedia. They put false information about my company and about it's employees here: /info/en/?search=MV_Seaman_Guard_Ohio. Furthermore you will notice most of the information is about the company when the article is supposed to be about a ship. It's not only inaccurate, but it's not even related to the article! I tried to edit it but they keep changing it back and now they have given me warnings as if I was the perpetrator of this business war! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmartin77 ( talk • contribs) 13:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Dave Dial ( talk) 19:42, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
As you previously participated in related discussions you are invited to comment at the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC for AfC reviewer permission criteria. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 05:01, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Greetings, mate Tparis. Nice to meet you. I am nos registered on en-wiki, but i am user in es-wiki. Mi username on that wiki is Leonpolanco. I use often your tool of editcount ( https://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/). But it is having dificults on es-wiki. It doesn't give the number of edit for the es-wiki, it appears the advice "Leonpolanco no existe" or other advice saying the account doesn't exist, though it exist; or it appears the advice (es.wikipedia.org esta Wiki no es válida). What is ocurring? Might you solutionate it, please? How could I report this dificult?. I let you my email, for your answer: (Redacted). Thanks. -- 189.202.28.73 ( talk) 20:41, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
You deleted Todd Kincannon in 2011 based on a PROD. It looks like he just turned up again. [8] As a former executive director of the South Carolina Republican Party and the subject of understandable media attention now, I expect an article will be restarted momentarily (indeed I was about to do so when I saw the notice), so I think it would be best to just undelete it in place before there's a second history to deal with. Wnt ( talk) 15:29, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article MV Seaman Guard Ohio incident is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MV Seaman Guard Ohio incident until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:00, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello TParis, I frequently use your tools, and they are very informative. I was curious if it is possible to increase the amount of results for the "Top Namespace Edits" tool (the default being 100). Or if there is another tool that serves the same purpose to find more than 100 results. I have been curious about this for awhile, so I thought might as well go straight to the source. Regards, STATic message me! 03:24, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Oh okay, thanks for the explanation. Regards, STATic message me! 16:20, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Since you contributed to the discussion resulting in the ban of Wikiexperts, you may want to consider the CEO's appeal at Wikipedia:AN#Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 17:57, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
You know, I was wondering what v/r stood for in all your posts! Anyhow, wanted to ask you a question about the Titus Andronicus situation. Given that the block on the page is being lifted tomorrow, I posted a question asking what happens next, given that you said three of the images were fine, I assumed those three could be put back. Perhaps I read too much into your post, I don't know. Whatever the case, when I asked the question, Werith responded with "Given the facts that have been established, (the files in question can be replaced, not easily but certainly doable), the files need to stay out of the article for failing WP:NFCC#1." This confuses me. Was there another discussion taking place somewhere? I didn't know any facts had been established. The vast majority of the editors involved in the discussion felt they didn't fail NFCC#1, yourself included. As an admin, I thought your points carried some weight, but was your involvement completely pointless? And also, is there no method of redress regarding a next move. Obviously, I can't just add them back or Werith would remove them, and we'd be back exactly where we started, so I'm wondering what one should do in these circumstances. Thanks very much. Bertaut ( talk) 23:40, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
The clarification request that you have filed has been archived, with no action taken: [9] For the Arbitration Committee, Rs chen 7754 05:33, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis,
Sorry to bother you. The reason I am contacting you is that the error page says you are looking after the script. Please let me know if this is inappropriate.
The "pcount" script seems to have stopped working for the German language Wikipedia in the last few days. (It is still working fine for the English language one, and the alternate "yaec" script is also still working even for the German language Wikipedia.)
pcount on de wikipedia seems to switch between the following behaviours since Saturday or Sunday:
pcount on en wikipedia on the other hand still works fine. Similarly it works for the English language Wiktionary, but not the German language one. Perhaps some server communications error?
Strangely, another script, yaec on de wikipedia, seems to have no problem accessing the German Wikipedia. (But perhaps it simply does less work and so is less affected by any network problems?)
Thanks.
-- SpecMade ( talk) 23:16, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for the move. Think you could re-unite Talk:IPad air with it's original host, iPad Air? I assume the page history of Talk:IPad Air should be preserved somehow. Marcus Qwertyus ( talk) 19:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
https://toolserver.org/~tparis/pages/index.php?name=Kaiyr&lang=ru&wiki=wikipedia&namespace=0&redirects=noredirects&getall=1 «Unknown database 'ruwiki_p'MySQL ERROR! Table 'toolserver.user' doesn't exist» - please fix. -- Sunpriat ( talk) 21:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
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Just to let you know, there's the beginnings of a discussion concerning your protection here. J Milburn ( talk) 10:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Cool. Just make sure everything is correct Thank you :) Bwmoll3 ( talk) 15:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Lou Sander notified the following individuals:
about a discussion where the dispute was "How should the mainstream view of "science has become a series of dogmas" be addressed in the lead?"
In order to determine if those individuals were supportive of the mainstream principles of science, we review their histories in the field.
Without arguing that this selection of editors are right or wrong about the content dispute (because we don't argue content here at this encyclopedia, just make sure no one uses the word fuck!), it is clear that the failure to notify vzaak, for instance, is glaring. Why was vzaak not notified? Should vzaak assume it's because he does not "know how to express opinions politely and helpfully?" That's incivil. Is it because Lou assumes vzaak will disagree with him? That's canvassing. Is it an oversight? Possibly, but then let's ask the same question about everyone who clearly disagrees with Lou on the talk page. OSTheRobot ( talk) 18:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I know you have better things to do than wade through the muck that section has become as the various sides again post their walls of only semi relevant text, particularly when you have also been pinged by someone who screams SOCK!!! I am sorry that I notified the editors which led to the new diarrhea of text, but I thought it was a necessary step when naming someone on the boards. I am hoping that my post that led to their notification doesn't get lost.
this notification by Lou is particularly telling. He titles the section heading with "Sheldrake/Tumbleman" although the section on the talk page has nothing to do with Tumbleman who had been indeffed several days before. Liz has been an ardent advocate encouraging Tumbleman and as can be seen here (uncollapse the Tumbleman results) Iantresman and Askahrc also speak in favor of him. None of the people who spoke against his actions in the AE were notified by Lou Sander. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 09:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- if you look at [ this discussion about whether or not to use the word "hypothesis" you will find in support of the idea (indeffed user Tumbleman), iantresman, Annalisa Ventola. none of the people speaking against the use of the word "hypothesis" were in the "randomly" selected users notified by Lou Sander. Do you need more? I hate to have people have to slog through the mire on this topic.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 09:47, 24 October 2013 (UTC)}
Thank you for your time. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:54, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I saw your notice.
I request an immediate relaxation in respect of the articles History of the metric system and International System of Units, both of which are currently being reviewed as WP:Good Articles.
I also request an immediate relaxation in respect of an SPA that I am about to place on another user.
Thank you.
Martinvl ( talk) 17:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
This time right? I don't care if the IP is blocked. I just want them to follow our guidelines - WP:REDACT, WP:SEEALSO, etc. -- NeilN talk to me 17:57, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello!
I have made a few attempts to clean up List of new religious movements, which is a list article with a long history of contention, topic bans, puppetry, even at least one major contributor who was de-sysoped. Unfortunately, I haven't been successful in the attempt at cleanup. I'm asking you to take a look at the recent activity on the article and the talk page. Although I have my own thoughts on what some of the issues are, I would rather get yours without my frustration bleeding through too heavily.
I am dropping this note for the most recently active admins I saw, and I am hopeful that those extra eyes will make a difference.
Thanks for considering it, cheers! -- Tgeairn ( talk) 21:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Curiosity: Did you get a little carried away with this revdel? [15] Or was it unfortunately necessary to protect that one red-link user who was supposedly being "outed"? ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:33, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Firstly I want to thank you for your work in this tool, very useful to most of wikipedians of all wikis; but this is not the matter I want to tell you.
Sometimes —and now from some days ago— I get a rare error when I try to count my edits on Spanish Wikipedia (my home wiki), with this message: ″Zerabat no existe″ (translated in english: ″Zerabat does not exist″). However, when I tried to see my edits on English Wikipedia, after a long time loading the page (toolserver is veeery slow) I finally saw my edits there. I do not know if it is an error when the tool try to connect to ESWIKI database or why, but this is not the only case I know in ESWIKI. My user account really exists. I would like to know what is the cause of this. Greets. -- Zerabat ( talk) 13:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I would also like to thank you for your contributions. And I also got the same experience on the German Wikipedia with the same error message while calling this URL
https://toolserver.org/%7Etparis/count/index.php?lang=de&wiki=wikipedia&name=Hippopotamus777
Regards
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Hi there. I 've tried to use the tool to check the user's creations record, but it says: "Unknown database 'eswiki_p'MySQL ERROR! Table 'toolserver.user' doesn't exist". ¿It is posible to fix? Thanks a lot. Regards. Jaontiveros ( talk) 13:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Please restore our work with the new references that were supplied when you deleted the work. the old work from aperson that was deleted was resubmitted with hard back book copy this time please restore and go to my talk page. Drjonesesq ( talk) 08:09, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Easy to see the site is corrupt please ban me and my students. Your in deep with competitors wonder how much money they donated. Make sure and hurry to delete and suppress information from the public so you control what everyone will read. This is a embarrassment as a encyclopedia and you should be ashamed as this is nothing more than a place to advertise you proved that. Did not even check the hardback books please ban me you run a site so corrupt and I will post this all over the net you will see you cant silence me you bully. You cant even wait for the appeal can you. In 3 weeks I will start to post what you have done in all media formats so be careful when you try to silence voices for profit.. Drjonesesq ( talk) 09:55, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The Barnstar is greatly appreciated. Yes, it was a lot of work. I had thought of presenting it in a RfC/U, but that process seems Namby Pamby compared to the problem we faced. So I waited for the opportunity (e.g., for someone to say "te") rather than first strike myself and be accused of harassment. The comment we saw about "recently" learning about civility is pure flak. Back on 30 August I read "I think we need to be very careful to stay civil while still being honest and direct. It's not that easy, and when I slip, I will apologize and correct myself, especially if it's pointed out." Will the topic ban work? I had hoped for a block, but we will see. So I think continued reconnaissance is in order. – S. Rich ( talk) 15:43, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
I notice that in commendeding Srich for providing evidence (diffs) for his claims against User Miles, you noted that ANIs are often "mobs" acting in the absence of evidence ( 1). Leaving aside our disagreement on the particular case of Miles, your general observation indicates that the process is often a fraud and a travesty. Given your view in this regard, I think as an admin you have an obligation to push for general reform of the ANI process. Just a suggestion. Steeletrap ( talk) 18:40, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The references submitted meet all criteria and the work is not an ad of any kind Drjonesesq ( talk) 14:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
[16] Quite an inspirational story of courage in the most unlikely scenario. Slàinte mhath. Wee Curry Monster talk 22:36, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
An AE request involving you has been closed. The result is that the edit made in violation of the ban has been reverted, no other action is needed at this time. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:46, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Trick or Treat! Happy
Halloween TParis! I hope you have a great day and remember to be safe if you go
trick-or-treating tonight with friends, family or loved ones. Happy Halloween!
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omite 15:14, 31 October 2013 (UTC) Help spread Wikilove by adding {{subst:User:Dainomite/HappyHalloween}} to other users' talk pages whether they be friends, acquaintances or random folks. |
Happy Halloween! Steeletrap ( talk) 02:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC) |
Hi. I hatted the Ludwig von Mises discussion at AN/I because I felt it was going nowhere and unlikely to be resolved except in a formal DR process. Some editors in the discussion support my action but some have implored me to revert myself. I'd appreciate your independent review of my action and I will support you in whatever conclusion you draw, whether to endorse it, undo it, trout me, or what have you. Thanks, alanyst 17:45, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Je ne sais pas si c'est là qu'il faut l dire, mais moi non plus, Lepetitlord account does not exist. Ah bon ? Joyeuses fraises! Lepetitlord ( talk) 20:21, 2 November 2013 (UTC) |
Hi, I am using many of the tools hosted at http://toolserver.org/~tparis and they are working fine. I am mostly active in Bengali(bn) Wikipedia and want to start a project by which the users will get banstars automatically for their contributions. To do this i will need to build some tools to get different type of statistics for the active users. So i think it would be helpful if you can assist me here and if it is possible you can share the source code with me. thanks -- Nasir Khan Saikat ( talk) 16:38, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
It seems SCSI Express development is coming along fine, with the first products expected in the first half of 2014: http://www.slideshare.net/rbeetle/scsi-express-overview . The standard is definitely useful, as it allows SCSI disks to have a faster (12 Gb/s and 24 Gb/s) and simpler (direct PCIe, no intermediate controllers) connection. The deletion criteria for {{ SCSI_Express}} from 2011 no longer apply, and the page should be re-created. (Sorry if this is the wrong place to post such a request, I am a total Wikipedia newb.) Thanks! 95.165.40.193 ( talk) 17:38, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I don't believe that you would behave corruptly. In my dealings with you you have always struck me as a person of high integrity. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 17:27, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Many thanks for maintaining this edit counter. Lately, it seems it only works for my account at English Wikipedia. It says my user name does not exist at the other editions where I'm active (svwp is my home wiki), or it says there is no such wiki. Do you know what's up? Best of wishes.-- Paracel63 ( talk) 14:31, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
User:Coren said that he wasn't actually in charge of maintaining the X!'s Counter and to come to you (or the other two people) for this issue. The Counter says that "deleted edits has been delayed... until mid-October," seeing as it's November is there any new information to report? If not, could it be changed to simply "availability date is not yet determined" or something similar? Just a pet peeve of mine. Thanks for all the work you and the other maintainers do! Coinmanj ( talk) 01:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Although I never agreed to not post on PL's talkpage, he seems to have created his own rules that in order for him to agree to not post on mine, I was automagically not permitted to post on his. So, could you advise him of this NPA workshop. I would be very happy to "pay" for any personal attacks I have made against them ... however, I do not believe I have ever done any. I would be very pleased to respond to anything that PL can actually PROVE was a NPA as per the policy. As such, please invite PL to edit that workshop page and he can post on his talkpage when he's ready for me to respond to his proof ES &L 23:13, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Diligence | |
I think you did the right thing, and I admire you for bringing it out for others to review when it would have been easy to just say nothing. Guy Macon ( talk) 04:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC) |
Congrats! – S. Rich ( talk) 06:38, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for helping out yesterday but for some rason I could not reply to your E-mail. Luckely the auto block for my IP just expired. -- The Cosmos Master ( talk) 08:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis. Please be aware that Jimbo has appointed you as a member of the Electoral Commission for this election. Good luck, and thank you for volunteering. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Voluntold at work... Voluntold on Wikipedia. Damn, you just can't escape it TP! — dain omite 16:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Sekolah menengah agama al falah atau dikenali sebagai smaaf yang terletak di daerah raub negeri pahang. Sekolah ini bertapak di batu talam. Selo5ah ioi telah pun memenangi tempat pertama dalam pertandingan 4k bagi ketegori B pada tahun 2011 dan pada tahun 2012 telah memenangi hanya di tempat ke dua. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Molokyz ( talk • contribs) 11:32, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
That's quite the lengthy series of discussions occurring on User talk:Jimbo Wales regarding some paid editing you have performed. Have you ever considered adding a box on your user page to list and disclose articles that you have received compensation for creating or editing? This seems like it would address some of the concerns at Wales' talk page while taking minimal effort. Another idea is to create a page listing stated articles, with a link to said page on your user page.
Another option to consider is adding {{
Connected contributor}}
to the talk pages of articles you have received compensation for contributing to or creating. I've noticed this tag on article talk pages that COI and paid editors have contributed to.
Just some friendly suggestions for you to consider. Cheers, Northamerica1000 (talk) 13:58, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
...For the work you are doing related to the UTRS system. I'm not active in that area, so know little about it, except that it seems to be an enormously successful solution to a problem. It is unfortunate that I'm only aware of it as a result of your comment on Jimbo's page, but maybe all clouds have a silver lining. -- S Philbrick (Talk) 16:21, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Have you been tinkering with the edit counter? 25% of it has been modified, and now it's broken.— cyberpower ChatAbsent 05:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
"Warning: Do not use the Labs Project (this site) if you do not agree to the following: information shared with the Labs Project, including usernames and passwords, will be made available to volunteer administrators and may not be treated confidentially."
This implies that you're storing unencrypted/unhashed passwords. Is this actually true? If so, this needs to be fixed, like, immediately. If you are hashing passwords or something reasonably equivalent, then sorry for raising a false alarm, but if this is true, this is totally unacceptable. Shirik ( Questions or Comments?) 16:54, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, when I attempt to use this tool to see which categories I created, [17] it seems to work but gives me lots of errors on the screen. Can you take a look when you get a chance? thanks! -- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 18:56, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Top edits hasn't been updating my info for about more than week now. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 02:12, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Was milesMoney's topic ban revoked? [18] Gaijin42 ( talk) 03:45, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Just FYI, you've deleted the page Belal taheri, but the page (newly set up but with the same problems) still stands as Belal Taheri (with proper capitalization).-- Akhooha ( talk) 03:18, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
TParis,
Could I please have a copy of Michael Birch (journalist) in my sandbox to work on. I have a project whereby students write about journalists who have been killed, imprisoned or mistreated for their journalism. I think this is a worthy project to put more work into and develop. Crtew ( talk) 03:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Tom -- I read your post at AN/I and thought of This, probably not what you are looking for, but Bish mentioned it a couple months back. Hope all is well! Lettik ( talk) 19:42, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
184.151.190.0 ( talk) 23:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Federico Pistono. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 4v4l0n42 ( talk) 02:53, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis, (or do I call you T? TP? Paris? v/r?) Anyways, thanks so much for you help. I guess I'll hold on editing for now until I hear from you on how this works. By the way, just call me wolf. Thanks again. - thewolfchild 03:06, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi TP. I notice you closed this AfD but the deletion notices are still on the additional 3 nominated pages. Please take another look. Thanks, C 679 21:55, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm not convinced you got this right - I don't see a consensus for saying that the warning must come from an uninvolved Administrator. And given that no one seems to want to monitor this area, that restriction becomes even more of a problem - and a suggestions that involved Administrators can't be trusted to warn someone. Could you take a look again, and either revise or reopen please? Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 16:54, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey there, you recently closed two AfDs ( [19] [20]) as redirect, but the pages had been moved prior to close, so you ended up redirecting the pagemove redirect instead. While this isn't really your fault, could you try to be a bit more careful in the future? Thanks, Ansh 6 6 6 21:16, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Can you delete and salt this? It has an asterisk. -- George Ho ( talk) 01:30, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
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I appreciate the unblock, but even more strongly appreciate the "Kashmir example" of topic bans. It's a wise example that can only come from an equally wise mind. MarshalN20 | Talk 14:59, 19 November 2013 (UTC) |
You added UTRS #9348 to the OPP queue, but did you add the IP to WP:OPP? I don't see it there...-- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 21:01, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
dear TParis, please see.. what happened here-- Sugeesh ( talk) 15:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Changes_to_Wikipedia:General_sanctions_warnings.2Fnotifications_ok.3F. Just so we can get this finalized at Wikipedia talk:General sanctions before someone two weeks from now notices and has a fit or whatever. Sorry for not quite grasping what was going on first time around. Too much frustrating stuff to deal with on wikipedia sometimes. Sigh... User:Carolmooredc talk 17:09, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I am Fung Hok Yan, I am asking for reasons why you deleted my wiki article Humans of Hong Kong? I have read through the pages you suggested and I think my page was fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Funghokyan ( talk • contribs) 18:39, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
TParis- being new to this- may I respectfully ask how best to make better referenced changes to this page so that it is not this version which I believe is not very good (as even red pen of doom has remarked)? I am hopeful to at least be able to make it look more like the prior version with good references, and without instigating any type of edit war as seemed to occur with others....this current 'consensus' version is not very appealing either. This is not any type of argument, just seeking advice/help on moving forward from this very early edition.
v/r Wordasaurus ( talk) 21:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)word
It's my understanding that you are mentoring this editor. Do you think that his spate of comments on WP:ANI is the best behavior for an editor who escaped a community indef block by the skin of his teeth? Beyond My Ken ( talk) 00:50, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Obviously, I disagree with your take on clean starts. A clean start is not, and cannot be, carte blanche which prevents editors from asking any editor who draws attention to themselves, as this subject did, what's going on. If it was, every vandal, troll and miscreant would be clean starting all over the place. It's clear from the clean start policy that the subject of the clean start has to meet the community half way, and that means not editing in the areas they edited in before and not drawing attention to themselves, say by posting on one of the highest volume pages in the project "I didn't do X because I didn't wish to arouse undue suspicion."
As for thewolfchild, I was not referring only to his egregious behavior on the thread that involved me, but to his comments throughout AN/I today. They are not a matter of "passion", they are a matter of very bad judgment on his part, and as his mentor, I think it might be a good idea to help him get past that, since other instances of bad judgment almost got him indeffed. To my eye, he's very close to being a net negative to the project, which you might consider to be one of the goals of the mentoring project, to refocus him onto content and away from comment. Best, Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:15, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
On the main subject, I think you may be missing something about mentoring thewolfchild. It's certainly the case that his behavior needs to be better controlled, but it's also the case that his focus seems to be entirely in the wrong place. Were I mentoring him (and I concede that I would be a terrible mentor, which is why I have turned down the possibility the couple of times it came up), I would touch not only on the "passion", but on the types of edits he's making. We all know we're here to build an encyclopedia, and most of us also know how easy it is to get sucked into the maw of the various dramah boards; it's hard to resist, but it's got to be secondary to improving articles (or templates or categories or whatever). From my look at TWC's edit counts, he's much too involved in the bad stuff, and does too little of the good stuff. I think that's a point you should be making with him as well. Just my opinion, of course, and worth exactly what you paid for it, but there it is. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:38, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 19:30, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey there. As the current Major Events Coordinator and planner of the SUNY Purchase Culture Shock festival, I am a bit dismayed to see that the page has been deleted. I noticed that the claims repeatedly stated issues of notability, which I am a bit confused about. There are various student-run newspapers on campus that make explicit mention about various topics concerning the festival, and our school even has senior projects (required for receipt of a Bachelor's degree) that are about the logistics and coordination of the festival. Would love to discuss further. -Ray Chalmé — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.79.170.212 ( talk) 22:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi. In this message, you didn't include a timestamp, which will result in "zombie" talk page posts, as archive bots will not archive threads that do not include an identifiable timestamp. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 00:36, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
No rush :) Ish dar ian 02:56, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for all your work in coordinating the ArbCom election. Between your technical knowledge, communication skills, and overall conscientiousness, I am glad you are on the job, and want you to know that you are doing a great job "rolling with the punches". Thank you again for your tireless work, and please keep it up. Go Phightins ! 04:13, 26 November 2013 (UTC) |
On the edit counter which X! wrote and you maintain, the one for me shows only 50 edits for this month (Nov), when I know I have made many more. This also happened when I looked on another use's edit count. Is there a bug? Rcsprinter (message) @ 22:14, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
I have created a new report on the ANI noticeboard regarding the block of Joefromrandb. TigerShark ( talk) 23:17, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Afrer recasting my vote, there appears to be still some busgs. What i got was:
SPID: 5587 -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux)
followed by a page of alphanumeric computer code. Link to report this didn't work either. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 15:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you closed MarshalN20's appeal discussion. Could you explain how you came to the conclusion that there was not only a consensus, but a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors" (see WP:AEBLOCK) for the result you reached? At first glance, there is at least one participant, Cambalachero, whose uninvolvedness appears doubtful, based on their being sanctioned in the underlying arbitration case. I'd be interested to know whether you evaluated the degree of involvedness of the participants, and what "uninvolved" means in this context as applied to editors, in your opinion (it's undefined in the relevant ArbCom remedy, as well as in the recent appeals policy draft). Sandstein 19:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
User | Opinion | Involved | Notes | |
Wee Curry Monster | Unblock | Involved | ||
EatsShootsAndLeaves | Endorse | |||
ChrisGualtieri | Endorse | |||
Sjakkalle | Unblock | w/ admonishment | ||
Darkness Shines | Unblock | |||
DES | Unblock | w/ admonishment | ||
Beyond My Ken | Endorse | |||
Cambalachero | Unblock | Involved | ||
Lukeno94 | Unblock | |||
Chelios | Endorse | |||
Nyttend | Unblock | |||
Someone not using his real name | Unblock | |||
Rockfang | Unblock | |||
Sven Manguard | Unblock | |||
Hobit | Unblock | |||
Laser brain | Endorse | grey area | ||
North8000 | Unblock | |||
Kahastok | Unblock | |||
72.2% favor unblock | ||||
I see a 72.2% consensus toward an unblock here in terms of a count of editors and their opinions. However, the strongest argument I felt was made by Cambalachero. Discounting his argument on the basis of involved seemed ad hominem to me. Specifically, "culture is influenced by history" is what particularly caught my attention. Even if I were to ignore the two involved votes, 68% is still a supermajority. Another thing that influenced my devision was that even Laser brain admitted it was a grey area and I recall a Big Bang Theory episode where Priya Koothrappali describes Contra proferentem.--v/r - T P 02:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your thorough explanation, and I hope you are better now.
Your assessment of consensus is defensible, but I am concerned that by overturning the block the editors who supported the appeal may in effect have narrowed the topic ban considerably. As imposed by the Arbitration Committee ("all articles, discussions, and other content related to the history of Latin America, broadly construed") it clearly applies, in my view, to the article Chile–Peru football rivalry because it is entirely about events in the past of two Latin American countries. This raises the question about whether the editors who supported the appeal – or you, by implementing its outcome – have violated the Arbitration Committee's decision, or the policy that Arbitration Committee decisions are final and binding ( WP:AP). I'd appreciate your opinion about whether a request for clarification could help determine whether this manner of proceeding is consistent with applicable policy, or whether the appeals rules require clarification to prevent the impermissible amendment of Arbitration Committee decisions by other editors. Sandstein 20:44, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey Tom, hope you have gotten over the man flu. Just want to point out, I am not involved with MN20, I asked him for a translation. All this post by K is showing is that he has a severe battlefield mentality with regards to MN20, and now obviously myself. Darkness Shines ( talk) 16:42, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Hatting was great, but perhaps you could change your hatting comment to something, uh, more detached. :-) -- Bbb23 ( talk) 22:03, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I sent it to you yesterday. Just wanted to see if you got it. — cyberpower ChatOnline 14:03, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Care to use User_talk:Shirt58#Hello / User_talk:Shirt58#Hello_2 as a teachable point? Toddst1 ( talk) 05:24, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi TP, I've just begun changing the links from tools on the toolsever with the same link on labs for the MediaWiki:Gadget-dropdown-menus gadget (the updated .jsis in my userspace). The only equivalent tool I haven't found is the edit summary calculator. Have I missed it or is the transition not completed yet? Regards, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 02:38, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
I got an HTTP 502 error here. [23] "invalid response from an upstream server ... could not handle the request GET /xtools/pcount/index.php ... Error reading from remote server" Presumably this is related to migration, and I'll note that around the same timespan a Scottywong thingamajig over at toolserver.org needed 623 seconds to work (100x more than normal), though this might be unrelated coincidence, rather than intertwined symptom.
The homepage [24] works fine, but clicking on xtools there does not work fine. Both cyberpower and tparis are listed there for xtools, and I see them both here as well, so it looks like I came to the right place. :-) I'm in no hurry, but prolly I'm not the only one depending on xtools either, so if somebody can look into this, it would be appreciated. Danke.
p.s. Java==JScript over on wiktionary because they accept UseNet as a reliable source of linguistic attestation, and in particular, "HOW TO MAKE A JAVA ALERT POP UP ON LOAD" from 1996 is their evidence. Hard to argue that people are confused about the meaning of words, when only two things are conceivably infinite. — 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 15:57, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I believe I have finished migrating all the used tools. Can you make a local backup of your toolserver account? Also, can you tell me if I missed something?— cyberpower Online Happy Thanksgiving 00:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
This is why I find him(?) strongly nuanced. The depth of perception and thought that went into that decision is a level of wisdom and intelligence I could never achieve. Dloh cierekim 21:58, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Just a reminder to you. If you can possibly replace all of the index.php files in the tools with the redirector script, it'd be greatly appreciated. Can you also renew your toolserver account to keep them redirecting until toolserver shuts down? Here's a big juicy steak just for you.— cyberpower Online Merry Christmas 14:50, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
That was my 2nd warning. See User talk:JamesMoose#Inappropriate username. The first was Nov 24 which was quite a while ago, and the user ignored my message. You may feel that there is some ambiguity in referring to [added Andrevan @ 03:54, 13 December 2013 (UTC)] treating women as sexual property, but to me this is unambiguously offensive. Andrevan @ 02:16, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
I have added the words "referring to" to my comment above to clarify what I meant, which was not to insinuate that you are personally OK with the sexual trafficking itself - what we are discussing here is its reference in a username. Hope that helps slightly. Andrevan @ 03:54, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. It stopped working some 2 days ago. When you try to scan category it says "Could not connect to ruwiki.labsdb : Access denied for user 'p50380g50536'@'10.4.1.120' (using password: YES)". Can you handle this? ~Nirvanchik~ ⊤άλҟ 21:16, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Hey TParis, this is more of an academic thing because I'm not disputing your action in any way, but I would think that any administrator has the authority to put a talk page unblock request on hold pending resolution of a noticeboard discussion. If they do that, there's no reason to prevent them from commenting in that discussion unless they plan to close the discussion later (which I didn't). Would you disagree? I'll be happy to take your advice into consideration for the next time. NW ( Talk) 23:10, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi TParis, just a small point of procedure here. You recently closed the ANI discussion about whether or not JClemens should be unblocked. [25] However, since one of the things that was being discussed was your own rationale for denying the unblock request, it probably should not have been you who closed that discussion. It would have been better to let someone else do it, or to leave the discussion open. Especially since it's such a hot discussion right now, and it involves admins disagreeing with admins, it's probably best to keep everything as strictly by the book as possible. Of course, what's done is done at this point, and I'm not asking you to re-open the discussion... Just thought I'd point that out! -- El on ka 14:45, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
I think I'm pretty objective about this. :) I spoke in favor of your rationale in the discussion, remember? Curious though, I saw your 67% number in your ArbCom statement, and I was curious about how you derived that? On my read, the block/unblock comments were pretty much even. [26] No clear consensus either way, but no compelling reason to rapidly close the discussion, either. -- El on ka 21:20, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
The arbitration case request that you were a party to has been declined by the Committee. For the Arbitration Committee, Rs chen 7754 05:27, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for all your help with ACE this year. Giant Snowman 13:20, 16 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Hello, TParis. Over the years, I have found some of your tools (originally at toolserver) extremely useful, and I should like to thank you for them. As you are no doubt aware, migration to labs has not entirely been trouble-free, and sometimes it has been difficult to determine whether a tool has been removed, or merely moved to somewhere unexpected, making it hard to find. I wonder if you can tell me whether there is any currently available tool for checking for autoblocks? Not having one creates significant difficulties, probably the worst being the inability to check for autoblocks when an account is unblocked, which means that sometimes the account effectively stays blocked. JamesBWatson ( talk) 15:34, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I am a use of Italian Wikipedia, and it was some time I was not verifying my edit count. When I did today, I was modified that the tool was permanently moved on Labs (fair enough). Unfortunately, when I landed there, there was no stats to be seen, apparently the thing is not working. Could you please verify and make me know why this happens? The link I followed was http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/count/index.php?name=Ferdinando%20Scala&lang=it&wiki=wikipedia. You can fin me on it.wiki at Utente:Ferdinando Scala. thanks a lot in advance and happy Christmas!-- Ferdinando Scala ( talk) 15:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
I'll answer here since that thread is getting out of hand.
I do recall the Balloon boy hoax but I don't see how it applies. We know that on-the-spot reports should be taken with a grain of salt: reports of Jewish guns being confiscated in 1938 come from that government or from reporting, but basic accuracy and fact-checking wasn't always possible. Besides, lots of other things were confiscated and the sources (I listed one on that talk page) seem to agree that it was of little relevance since "the Jews" were not much in the way of an armed part of the population--many of their weapons were memorabilia from World War I, and many weapons were not firearms. In other words, the importance of weapons confiscations is highly questionable. In addition, the 1938 legislation, as I pointed out on the talk page, also involved loosening gun restrictions on hunters and NSDAP members, which strikes me as much more important than taking a couple of rusty old pistols from WWI veterans--hunters and Nazis had much easier access to weapons and ammunition and (I think the record is clear) Nazis actually did something with those weapons. It's not like there was a vigilant and heavily armed Jewish citizenry. So, a report that some guns were confiscated from the 1938 NYT lacks context and presents undue-ness: they could barely report on how many guns were legally acquired, without the need for a permit, by Nazis who could freely wave them around to intimidate their opponents.
The POV on the Gun control page boils down to this: the Nazis exercised gun control over the Jews so gun control is evil; the larger one is "authoritarian regimes (routinely) employ gun control to render their opponents (more) harmless"--you can find that in various shapes and off-handed comments on the talk page. It's masked by being represented as objectively established fact. But those facts are not uncontested. It is a fact that the 1938 law barred Jews from gun ownership (and other related things) in certain ways. But that fact alone is meaningless, since lots of governments exercise gun control, and picking one country, one historical period, over all others is undue: it suggests undue importance. I have brought that up on the talk page, but the opponents haven't addressed that. To avoid undue-ness, really all countries and all times should be mentioned--not just Hitler and Mao.
A more general point is the NRA POV, exemplified by citations from Wayne LaPierre and Neal Knox as I found them in the 1968 gun law article. Citing their opinion on past gun legislation could be valid in an article on opinions on past gun legislation, but that's not what we're talking about here. These articles concern historical fact, and the synthesis of someone like Knox concerning who saw and knew and copied what in the process of writing the 1968 legislation is simply not relevant in those articles. And as I and others noted there are serious problems with citing these Google snippets, for reasons I don't have to go into, I hope. You're a reasonable man and you know that context matters, and that snippets by definition can't give much context. So I find that citing those snippets, against better judgment and against the opinion of other editors, is just as disruptive or more so than removing them. Because the opposite position of "authoritarian regimes use gun control etc." is not the opposite POV, "authoritarian regimes don't use gun control etc." And if such regimes exercise(d) gun control, it works in all kinds of ways--not just restricting it to one category; and if they did it's hardly one of the more meaningful aspects of their legislation. (Note that one editor accused Goethean and others of abusing the memory of six million dead Jews! an awful personal insult.) Rather, the opposite is "the record does not prove that authoritarian used gun control in a meaningful way to further their political goals". That statement is an opinion also, a meta opinion if you will, but I and others maintain that the suggested slant in the article is simply not proven. In other words, the POVs on either side are not equivalent: removing a POV is not automatically POV, so to speak. Well, that's enough for now. Take it easy, Drmies ( talk) 17:20, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Also, I want to elaborate a bit on that first thing--I was painting a doorway just now, and that's an excellent occasion to think. You mention the balloon hoax, which I assume you used to prove that contemporary press reports should be cited. Well, the hoax was precisely about that immediate coverage, which turned out to be incorrect, so of course that's acceptable. But citing on-the-spot reports from reliable sources poses significant dangers: I wrote up SS Sirio a while ago, a ship full of Italian and Spanish immigrants that wrecked. The NYT and other sources reported at the time that male Italian passengers armed with knives prevented women and children from getting on the lifeboats; turns out, of course, that this was nothing but slander (of the racist kind) concocted in the heat of the moment. I don't think such reports were retraced by those papers, but later historical research set the record straight. That is the danger with allowing on-the-spot reports, even if made in otherwise reliable sources, and it's the kind of stuff that cannot go into our articles unless seriously encapsulated in modifying phrases--and even then, one should question the value of such reports. Something similar happened in the case of John M. Bacon, a US general involved in a skirmish with native Americans: one contradictory report followed another. In other words, I seriously doubt the value of such reports, and the willy-nilly citation thereof. Happy days, Drmies ( talk) 19:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Regarding Gaijin42, I think he's gone over the top in this instance, but I generally have a great deal of respect for his sense of fairness and decency and a good deal of esteem for him as an editor. He was one of the standout voices of sanity and basic human decency in the demoralizing cesspit at Talk:Shooting of Trayvon Martin, for instance, and while his political views are hardly difficult to ascertain I think he's generally able to edit neutrally and productively. MastCell Talk 23:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Collectively, the four of us have at least two decades experience on this project. I think eacth of us could easily point to a time when we saw editors de-prioritizing high quality sources and emphasizing other sources instead. Sometimes we were able to address the matter and sometimes we lost the argument. The solution is not to start cutting standards everywhere but to instead highlight cases where editors are trying to push any type of source – be it a geocities website or Daily Kos or the Heritage Foundation – over serious scholarship. If you see that, bring it up. You can't complain about bias unless you make an attempt to address it. If what you mean is that we are "biased" to the consensus of English-speaking historians, sociologists, political scientists and other scholars, well, in that case I have less sympathy for that position. We are, after all, purporting to create an English-language encyclopedia. NW ( Talk) 01:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)