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Based on this summary [ [2]] your wp:POV is far too obvious: on professor Vakalopoulos you are asking for his use of primaries and removing him on sight while on pro-Albanian politician-historian Xhufi you feel very convenient no matter that he is rejected in modern scholarship by so multiple academic institutions. Alexikoua ( talk) 17:10, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
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You have been accused for large scale tag teaming during a failed report you filled against me recently. Currently, it's not productive to revert warning messages that have been posted to users that have just made drive-by reverts without having the slightest knowledge on the subject. Alexikoua ( talk) 18:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
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Here you remove [ [7]] Kokolakis as "old research" in favor of supposed newer research, nevertheless here [ [8]] you are in favor of Kokolakis no matter if Spiro's research is a very recent one. It appears you just prefer to push a strong national POV. Consider that this kind of aggressive language and inconsistency will lead you soon to AE. Alexikoua ( talk) 19:25, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
Your statement "Do not template regular editors because they disagree with you." shows that you are acknowledging that the content you tried to add, is in disagreement with the other editors. Yet you avoided using the talk page [9] to discuss the matter. Why? - ❖ SilentResident ❖ ( talk ✉ | contribs ✎) 19:53, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi Ktrimi, long time no see. I see I had a note for the Bektashi section that I would expand it, sometime, that I left five years ago. I regret to say that due to other commitments (which are still there despite me having briefly returned), I really can't see myself finding the time to do that. I do see that User:Botushali has done a great job making a new page on the section. Maybe I will add various stuff from the sources I intended to use there. Either way, great work! -- Calthinus ( talk) 16:41, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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Why are you spreading false information about Macura being an Albanian tribe, when they are not? Cheking inf ( talk) 13:48, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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Hello. Can you explain me the problem with Kastriot Myftaraj's source? Super Ψ Dro 17:02, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Also. You keep confusing ethnicity with identity. They are not the same. Aurel Plasari, and others, are ethnic Aromanians. That does not mean that they identify only as Aromanians or that they reject an Albanian identity. If your notion of ethnicity and identity being synonymous were true, we would 1) have an article about the Aromanians treating only a few thousand individuals not identifying as Greek, Romanian or other 2) we would not be able to refer to individuals' parents as ethnic Aromanian because we would then assume their identity (Rita Marko's case). Your interpretation is not the one used in Wikipedia. It is clearly stated at Aromanians that they're an ethnic group despite their conflicting, various identities being well-known, which is also mentioned in the article. Super Ψ Dro 17:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
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I know that it [1] is basically just what Alexikoua said, however, I think it would be good to wait for Alexikouas response at first. AlexBachmann ( talk) 19:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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The source explains everything. I can add the explanation of the special case of Byzantine Greek, which might be forgotten today. I didn’t want to balloon the introduction. Homei ( talk) 17:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Mirmbrama Ktrimi, we've discussed at Anthousa, Preveza. If you have a different opinion than I do, you, of course, can intervene. AlexBachmann ( talk) 21:13, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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You (possibly) disrupted the statement "The fortifications, as they have been preserved to date, are mostly of Venetian" (with added source) at the Rozafa Castle page.
The new statement is now "Originally an Illyrian fortification, its remains are mostly of Venetian origin" (in which you kept the source as listed previously). As far as I can see, the same source does not imply it was originally an Illyrian fortification, nor have I found other sources who imply that. I encourage you to stop pushing POV just because you "think that's better wording" (your own words). Either change it back to the previous statement or find a source who backs that claim. Aleksandarstankov ( talk) 17:50, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Mirmbrama Ktrimi, I somehow am concerned about the Latin etymology of Pristina that it is delivered from Primus Justinianus. The section of the book was written by Rexhep Doci not E. E. As you may know, he previously attempted to explain Budua and Malisheva through Albanian etymologies. I don't have any problem including it in the article and it, in fact, does sound possible, however, I'd like to hear your opinion. (In addition to that: Ulpiana (which is a a stone's throw away from Pristina) was called Justiniana Secunda and not Prima. In fact, a city near Nish was called Justiniana Prima, but the proximity does not convince me.) Again, I have no problem including it since it does sound possible in some degree. Thanks - AlexBachmann ( talk) 21:13, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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We'll see what happens if changes made since the restriction are reverted. There is an ongoing reverting cycle, and it does not concern changes made after you imposed the rule. It concerns changes that were made a few weeks ago and since then have repeatedly been added and reverted for a rather long time: due to that you protected the page twice. Today alone, one readded contensted content, you imposed the rule on the article, then another one reverted the content, and the former readded it again (with a weird justification in the edit summary). They both have been made aware of the rule, because it is on the top of the editing page [11]. So you either blame only the one who is adding content which has continuously been contested since its additon in July, or you blame both for reverting on the same content after 2 page protections. Ktrimi991 ( talk) 00:19, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
removal of sourced information by new account with only 1 contribSuch an edit summary is weird, because you are not supposed to revert another editor just because they are a newbie ( WP:BITE). That edit summary together with asking them on the tp to not revert because they are not allowed by the same rule that applies to you as well, it gives the impression that you are trying to game the system. Instead of seeking dispute resolution, you have been reverting on the same content since July. After the 2 page protections that "protected" your version of the article, do you reckon that the admin will "protect" your version through the new rule? Is that the reason why you are not seeking dispute resolution? WP:RfC is there for you and the rest of those who are concerned about that content: it is the only way to solve your dispute. I hope you all reflect. It does not benefit anyone and does not make anyone look good, especially you given that your last block for edit warring was just 6 months ago. Ktrimi991 ( talk) 00:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Your comment above is laced with bad faith assumptionsLast time you accused someone of something, you got an AE-logged warning. I frankly advise you to focus on sorting out the content dispute through discussion on the talk page and stop edit warring. WP:RfC might be a good path. Cheers, Ktrimi991 ( talk) 01:11, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
it gives the impression that you are trying to game the system,
Is that the reason you are not seeking dispute resolution, are accusations of bad faith. Perhaps it is time you were given an AE logged warning. Anyway, I have been continuously been posting on the talkpage and will continue to do so until a consensus is reached. Khirurg ( talk) 01:16, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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The potential JohnGotten Brazil IPs you brought up before on my page are active again with nationalist aimed pov edits. Through October, September and August in this range here. Is there a case file already open on this to add to the list? They appear to be mass editing. Cheers. OyMosby ( talk) 18:02, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
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Here you remove [ [7]] Kokolakis as "old research" in favor of supposed newer research, nevertheless here [ [8]] you are in favor of Kokolakis no matter if Spiro's research is a very recent one. It appears you just prefer to push a strong national POV. Consider that this kind of aggressive language and inconsistency will lead you soon to AE. Alexikoua ( talk) 19:25, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, you must see this video to add more accurate info for Pileus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Ev-RR-wmA&t=22s HadrianusN ( talk) 21:06, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hello. Can you explain me the problem with Kastriot Myftaraj's source? Super Ψ Dro 17:02, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Also. You keep confusing ethnicity with identity. They are not the same. Aurel Plasari, and others, are ethnic Aromanians. That does not mean that they identify only as Aromanians or that they reject an Albanian identity. If your notion of ethnicity and identity being synonymous were true, we would 1) have an article about the Aromanians treating only a few thousand individuals not identifying as Greek, Romanian or other 2) we would not be able to refer to individuals' parents as ethnic Aromanian because we would then assume their identity (Rita Marko's case). Your interpretation is not the one used in Wikipedia. It is clearly stated at Aromanians that they're an ethnic group despite their conflicting, various identities being well-known, which is also mentioned in the article. Super Ψ Dro 17:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
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I know that it [1] is basically just what Alexikoua said, however, I think it would be good to wait for Alexikouas response at first. AlexBachmann ( talk) 19:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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The source explains everything. I can add the explanation of the special case of Byzantine Greek, which might be forgotten today. I didn’t want to balloon the introduction. Homei ( talk) 17:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Mirmbrama Ktrimi, we've discussed at Anthousa, Preveza. If you have a different opinion than I do, you, of course, can intervene. AlexBachmann ( talk) 21:13, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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You (possibly) disrupted the statement "The fortifications, as they have been preserved to date, are mostly of Venetian" (with added source) at the Rozafa Castle page.
The new statement is now "Originally an Illyrian fortification, its remains are mostly of Venetian origin" (in which you kept the source as listed previously). As far as I can see, the same source does not imply it was originally an Illyrian fortification, nor have I found other sources who imply that. I encourage you to stop pushing POV just because you "think that's better wording" (your own words). Either change it back to the previous statement or find a source who backs that claim. Aleksandarstankov ( talk) 17:50, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Mirmbrama Ktrimi, I somehow am concerned about the Latin etymology of Pristina that it is delivered from Primus Justinianus. The section of the book was written by Rexhep Doci not E. E. As you may know, he previously attempted to explain Budua and Malisheva through Albanian etymologies. I don't have any problem including it in the article and it, in fact, does sound possible, however, I'd like to hear your opinion. (In addition to that: Ulpiana (which is a a stone's throw away from Pristina) was called Justiniana Secunda and not Prima. In fact, a city near Nish was called Justiniana Prima, but the proximity does not convince me.) Again, I have no problem including it since it does sound possible in some degree. Thanks - AlexBachmann ( talk) 21:13, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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We'll see what happens if changes made since the restriction are reverted. There is an ongoing reverting cycle, and it does not concern changes made after you imposed the rule. It concerns changes that were made a few weeks ago and since then have repeatedly been added and reverted for a rather long time: due to that you protected the page twice. Today alone, one readded contensted content, you imposed the rule on the article, then another one reverted the content, and the former readded it again (with a weird justification in the edit summary). They both have been made aware of the rule, because it is on the top of the editing page [11]. So you either blame only the one who is adding content which has continuously been contested since its additon in July, or you blame both for reverting on the same content after 2 page protections. Ktrimi991 ( talk) 00:19, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
removal of sourced information by new account with only 1 contribSuch an edit summary is weird, because you are not supposed to revert another editor just because they are a newbie ( WP:BITE). That edit summary together with asking them on the tp to not revert because they are not allowed by the same rule that applies to you as well, it gives the impression that you are trying to game the system. Instead of seeking dispute resolution, you have been reverting on the same content since July. After the 2 page protections that "protected" your version of the article, do you reckon that the admin will "protect" your version through the new rule? Is that the reason why you are not seeking dispute resolution? WP:RfC is there for you and the rest of those who are concerned about that content: it is the only way to solve your dispute. I hope you all reflect. It does not benefit anyone and does not make anyone look good, especially you given that your last block for edit warring was just 6 months ago. Ktrimi991 ( talk) 00:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Your comment above is laced with bad faith assumptionsLast time you accused someone of something, you got an AE-logged warning. I frankly advise you to focus on sorting out the content dispute through discussion on the talk page and stop edit warring. WP:RfC might be a good path. Cheers, Ktrimi991 ( talk) 01:11, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
it gives the impression that you are trying to game the system,
Is that the reason you are not seeking dispute resolution, are accusations of bad faith. Perhaps it is time you were given an AE logged warning. Anyway, I have been continuously been posting on the talkpage and will continue to do so until a consensus is reached. Khirurg ( talk) 01:16, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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Kindly take a look at the sources that were recently added regarding Muhammad Ali Pasha heritage. Do those ones appear to be more reliable and academically accurate? This seems to be 'two new accounts' trying to change the version that was approved after several discussions and impose a different narrative that he wasn't even Albanian, unlike the popular concept. So should both ethnicities be added given that there are several sources mentioning the two?
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The potential JohnGotten Brazil IPs you brought up before on my page are active again with nationalist aimed pov edits. Through October, September and August in this range here. Is there a case file already open on this to add to the list? They appear to be mass editing. Cheers. OyMosby ( talk) 18:02, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
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