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To-do list for Venezuela: Feel free to add, remove, strike or object any of the to-do's below, but remember to discuss controversial topics here.
•Add a short unbiased reference with sources cited (under Government and politics > Law and crime?) regarding the captivity/incarceration of the U.S. Citizen Joshua Holt and his Venezuelan wife). It need not be huge, but something this diplomatically important should really at least be mentioned.
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Some editors are arguing that it is superfluous information to state Venezuela is an authoritarian state in the infobox. I disagree because the sources directly tell us it is not a functioning republic and there are no free and fair elections. One of the sources which remains in place in the infobox even calls Venezuela an autocracy. So stating uncritically that it’s a federal republic is going against what the sources say. Nobody so far has challenged or removed these references, so it seems to me we are simply overriding them with editor analysis. If there are references out there that can attest to Venezuela holding fair elections, please provide them and let’s have that discussion. 25stargeneral ( talk) 19:31, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
The United Nations, the International Fact Finding Mission in Venezuela, the Organization of American States, the Inter-American Court of Human Rights and the Inter-American Commission of Human Rights have repeatedly and for several years documented the lack of human rights, civil liberties, separation of powers and judiciary independence in Venezuela. We can change the sources if the community wishes to do so, but this can't be just swept under the rug.-- NoonIcarus ( talk) 21:31, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
North Korea is a republic. No, it really isn’t, it’s certainly not how academics talk about North Korea, and I don’t see how you expect to be taken seriously making such a statement. It is supposed to be a republic, and academics will say that, but they’ll also say it is in fact a hereditary dictatorship/absolute monarchy, which is a different system of government. You’d have us leave in one part of the academic information but omit this other, key, context. That is an NPOV issue. 25stargeneral ( talk) 20:21, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
As it is part of Guyana it should be unequivocally shown as such unless by wikipedia:consensus or whatever it is decided to have clearly changed hands. It hasn't. It shouldn't be shown as Venezuelan because by (lack of) international recognition, it currently isn't. Senjoro Nie ( talk) 11:46, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Esequibo area still belongs to Guyana, displaying as part of Venezuela territory, even as "proclaimed" only helps sharing desinformation a Maduro's propaganda. The topic should be discussed, yes, but at a separated place, as a topoc itself, not at the Venezuelan main land map. 2A01:73C0:501:DF5A:9057:A56C:BB34:2DFC ( talk) 07:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Please see the following Request for Comment at President of Venezuela:
-- David Tornheim ( talk) 12:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
The infobox provides percentages for religion that are as recent as 2020, whereas the section in the article on religion cites a source from 2011. There is a significant difference in the numbers (e.g. 92% Christian in 2020 vs 88% Christian in 2011) and the article should be updated to reflect that. BrilliantMinnow ( talk) 16:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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Venezuela was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
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To-do list for Venezuela: Feel free to add, remove, strike or object any of the to-do's below, but remember to discuss controversial topics here.
•Add a short unbiased reference with sources cited (under Government and politics > Law and crime?) regarding the captivity/incarceration of the U.S. Citizen Joshua Holt and his Venezuelan wife). It need not be huge, but something this diplomatically important should really at least be mentioned.
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The contents of the Fifth Republic of Venezuela page were merged into Venezuela on 30 June 2023. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
Some editors are arguing that it is superfluous information to state Venezuela is an authoritarian state in the infobox. I disagree because the sources directly tell us it is not a functioning republic and there are no free and fair elections. One of the sources which remains in place in the infobox even calls Venezuela an autocracy. So stating uncritically that it’s a federal republic is going against what the sources say. Nobody so far has challenged or removed these references, so it seems to me we are simply overriding them with editor analysis. If there are references out there that can attest to Venezuela holding fair elections, please provide them and let’s have that discussion. 25stargeneral ( talk) 19:31, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
The United Nations, the International Fact Finding Mission in Venezuela, the Organization of American States, the Inter-American Court of Human Rights and the Inter-American Commission of Human Rights have repeatedly and for several years documented the lack of human rights, civil liberties, separation of powers and judiciary independence in Venezuela. We can change the sources if the community wishes to do so, but this can't be just swept under the rug.-- NoonIcarus ( talk) 21:31, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
North Korea is a republic. No, it really isn’t, it’s certainly not how academics talk about North Korea, and I don’t see how you expect to be taken seriously making such a statement. It is supposed to be a republic, and academics will say that, but they’ll also say it is in fact a hereditary dictatorship/absolute monarchy, which is a different system of government. You’d have us leave in one part of the academic information but omit this other, key, context. That is an NPOV issue. 25stargeneral ( talk) 20:21, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
As it is part of Guyana it should be unequivocally shown as such unless by wikipedia:consensus or whatever it is decided to have clearly changed hands. It hasn't. It shouldn't be shown as Venezuelan because by (lack of) international recognition, it currently isn't. Senjoro Nie ( talk) 11:46, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Esequibo area still belongs to Guyana, displaying as part of Venezuela territory, even as "proclaimed" only helps sharing desinformation a Maduro's propaganda. The topic should be discussed, yes, but at a separated place, as a topoc itself, not at the Venezuelan main land map. 2A01:73C0:501:DF5A:9057:A56C:BB34:2DFC ( talk) 07:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Please see the following Request for Comment at President of Venezuela:
-- David Tornheim ( talk) 12:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
The infobox provides percentages for religion that are as recent as 2020, whereas the section in the article on religion cites a source from 2011. There is a significant difference in the numbers (e.g. 92% Christian in 2020 vs 88% Christian in 2011) and the article should be updated to reflect that. BrilliantMinnow ( talk) 16:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)