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Near-contemporary image of the Battle of Caen

From 1345 to 1347, the Hundred Years' War between the English and the French flared up. Determined to renew the conflict, King Edward III of England despatched a small force to south-west France where they won victories at Bergerac and Auberoche. In 1346 an English army of 10,000 men landed in northern Normandy, devastated the region, and stormed and sacked Caen (pictured). They then cut a swath to within 20 miles (32 km) of Paris, turned north, and inflicted a heavy defeat on the French army at the Battle of Crécy. They exploited this by laying siege to Calais. The period from the English victory outside Bergerac to the start of the siege of Calais is known as Edward III's annus mirabilis (year of marvels). After an eleven-month siege, which stretched both countries' financial and military resources to the limit, the town fell, and for more than two hundred years it served as an English entrepôt into northern France. ( This article is part of a featured topic: Hundred Years' War, 1345–1347.)

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The Hass avocado is a variety of avocado with dark green, bumpy skin. It was first grown and sold by the American horticulturist Rudolph Hass, who also gave it his name. The Hass is one of the most commercially popular avocado cultivars and accounts for more than 80 percent of the crop in the United States. This is due to its taste, size, shelf-life, high growing yield and in some areas, year-round harvesting. The fruit has a mass of 200 to 300 grams (8 to 10 ounces) and, when ripe, its skin becomes a dark purplish-black that yields to gentle pressure. The centre part of the inner fruit then becomes white-green. This picture shows a whole and a halved Hass avocado, cultivated in Colombia. The photograph was focus-stacked from 12 separate images.

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Nil Battey Sannata ( Hindi slang for 'Good for Nothing') is a 2015 Indian comedy-drama film directed by Ashwiny Iyer Tiwari (pictured) in her feature debut. Produced by Aanand L. Rai, Ajay Rai, and Alan McAlex, the film was co-written by Iyer, Neeraj Singh, Pranjal Choudhary, and Nitesh Tiwari. Swara Bhaskar starred as Chanda Sahay, a high-school drop-out household maid and the single mother of a sullen young girl named Apeksha, played by Ria Shukla. The film's theme is a person's right to change their life, irrespective of social status. The film garnered critical acclaim for its realistic narrative and its cast, especially Bhaskar. In 2017 Iyer won the Filmfare Award for Best Debut Director; Screen Awards went to Bhaskar for Best Actress (Critics) and to Shukla for Best Child Artist. The film totalled around 69 million (US$830,000) at the box office. It was remade in Tamil as Amma Kanakku and in Malayalam as Udaharanam Sujatha. ( Full article...)

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The Gowanus Canal is a 1.8-mile-long (2.9 km) canal in the New York City borough of Brooklyn, on the westernmost portion of Long Island. It was created in the mid–19th century from local tidal wetlands and freshwater streams, and by the end of that century was very polluted due to heavy industrial use. Most industrial tenants had stopped using the canal by the middle of the 20th century, but it remained one of the most polluted bodies of water in the United States. Its proximity to Manhattan and upper-class Brooklyn neighborhoods has attracted waterfront redevelopment in recent years, alongside attempts at environmental cleanup. It was designated a Superfund site in 2009. This five-segment panoramic photograph shows the Gowanus Canal as viewed from Union Street Bridge in 2021, looking northeastward towards Downtown Brooklyn.

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Dionysus Cup, possibly referencing the seventh Homeric Hymn

The Homeric Hymns are a collection of thirty-three ancient Greek hymns and one epigram. They praise deities of the Greek pantheon and retell mythological stories, such as the abduction of Persephone and the seduction of Anchises by Aphrodite. In antiquity, the hymns were generally attributed to the poet Homer: modern scholarship has established that they vary widely in date. Performances of the hymns may have taken place at sympotic banquets, religious festivals and royal courts. They may originally have been performed by singers accompanying themselves on a lyre. The hymns influenced Alexandrian and Roman poets, and both pagan and early Christian literature. They were first published in print by Demetrios Chalkokondyles in 1488–1489, while George Chapman made the first English translation of them in 1624. They have since influenced, among others, Handel, Goethe, Shelley, Tennyson and Cavafy. Their influence has also been traced in the novels of James Joyce and Neil Gaiman, and in the films of Alfred Hitchcock. ( Full article...)

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The edible frog or green frog (Pelophylax kl. esculentus) is a common European frog species that occurs naturally from the northern half of France to western Russia and from Estonia and Denmark to Bulgaria and northern Italy, and is also an introduced species in other parts of the continent. It is a fertile hybrid of the pool frog (Pelophylax lessonae) and the marsh frog (P. ridibundus) and reproduces using hybridogenesis, a process in which one parental genome is excluded. The species is used as food – particularly in France, as well as Germany and Italy – as the delicacy frog legs. This edible frog was photographed in the Danube delta east of Tulcea, Romania.

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Charles Edward (1884–1954) was at various times a British prince, the last ruling duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in Germany, and a Nazi politician. Brought up in the United Kingdom, he was selected to succeed to the throne of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in 1899 because he was deemed young enough to be re-educated as a German. He married Princess Victoria Adelaide of Schleswig-Holstein and the couple had five children. Charles Edward was a conservative ruler with an interest in art and technology. During the First World War, he supported the German Empire but was deposed during the German Revolution. During the 1920s, Charles Edward became a moral and financial supporter of violent far-right paramilitary groups, joining the Nazi Party in 1933. He was given multiple positions, including leader of the German Red Cross, and acted as an unofficial diplomat. After the war, he was interned for a period and given a minor conviction by a denazification court, dying of cancer in 1954. ( Full article...)

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Ballot measures have been used in the U.S. state of Colorado to place new legislation, those recently passed by the Colorado General Assembly, and constitutional amendments on the ballot for a popular vote. Colorado has had a system of direct voting since gaining statehood in 1876. The state has three types of ballot measures that can be voted on in a statewide election: initiatives, referendums, and legislatively referred measures. The first successful citizen-initiated measures were passed in 1912. Since that time, ballot measures have played a major role in Colorado politics. After Denver was awarded the hosting rights to the 1976 Winter Olympics, citizens moved to block funding the games with a referendum in 1972. A 1990 ballot measure instituting term limits for many elected officials helped galvanize a nationwide movement for term limits, and 2000 Colorado Amendment 20 legalized the medical use of marijuana (greenhouse pictured). That measure was followed by full decriminalization with 2012 Colorado Amendment 64, and the decriminalization of psilocybin mushrooms in 2022. ( Full list...)

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Sedum acre, commonly known as the biting stonecrop, is a perennial flowering plant in the family Crassulaceae. It is native to Europe, North Africa and parts of Asia, and is naturalised in other places such as North America and New Zealand. It is a low-growing plant which is adapted for growth on thin dry soils, being found on terrain including dry grassland, beaches, drystone walls and roadside verges. The plant forms mat-like stands up to 12 centimetres (5 inches) tall. For most of the year the stems are short with dense leaf coverage, but during the flowering season in June and July, the stems lengthen and become erect. This S. acre plant with a length of 3.5 centimetres (1.4 inches) was photographed in Niitvälja, Estonia.

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Free and Candid Disquisitions is an anonymously published 1749 pamphlet written and compiled by John Jones, a Welsh clergyman of the Church of England. The work promoted a series of reforms to the church and the Book of Common Prayer that Jones hoped would allow the more Protestant and independent Dissenters to be reintegrated into the church. Jones's proposals included shortening the Sunday liturgies, removing Catholic ritual influences, and providing improved hymns and psalms. Several responding texts were written, both lauding and criticizing Jones's work. While the proposals were not accepted by the Church of England, Jones's suggested alterations to the prayer book and advocacy of privately published liturgies influenced several Dissenter liturgical texts and early editions of the American Episcopal Church's prayer book. The pamphlet remained a major influence on proposed liturgical changes in the Church of England until the 19th-century Tractarian movement. ( Full article...)

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Sedum acre, commonly known as the biting stonecrop, is a perennial flowering plant in the family Crassulaceae. It is native to Europe, North Africa and parts of Asia, and is naturalised in other places such as North America and New Zealand. It is a low-growing plant which is adapted for growth on thin dry soils, being found on terrain including dry grassland, beaches, drystone walls and roadside verges. The plant forms mat-like stands up to 12 centimetres (5 inches) tall. For most of the year the stems are short with dense leaf coverage, but during the flowering season in June and July, the stems lengthen and become erect. This S. acre plant with a length of 3.5 centimetres (1.4 inches) was photographed in Niitvälja, Estonia.

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Charles Edward (1884–1954) was at various times a British prince, the last ruling duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in Germany, and a Nazi politician. Brought up in the United Kingdom, he was selected to succeed to the throne of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in 1899 because he was deemed young enough to be re-educated as a German. He married Princess Victoria Adelaide of Schleswig-Holstein and the couple had five children. Charles Edward was a conservative ruler with an interest in art and technology. During the First World War, he supported the German Empire but was deposed during the German Revolution. During the 1920s, Charles Edward became a moral and financial supporter of violent far-right paramilitary groups, joining the Nazi Party in 1933. He was given multiple positions, including leader of the German Red Cross, and acted as an unofficial diplomat. After the war, he was interned for a period and given a minor conviction by a denazification court, dying of cancer in 1954. ( Full article...)

Title page of Free and Candid Disquisitions
Title page

Free and Candid Disquisitions is an anonymously published 1749 pamphlet written and compiled by John Jones, a Welsh clergyman of the Church of England. The work promoted a series of reforms to the church and the Book of Common Prayer that Jones hoped would allow the more Protestant and independent Dissenters to be reintegrated into the church. Jones's proposals included shortening the Sunday liturgies, removing Catholic ritual influences, and providing improved hymns and psalms. Several responding texts were written, both lauding and criticizing Jones's work. While the proposals were not accepted by the Church of England, Jones's suggested alterations to the prayer book and advocacy of privately published liturgies influenced several Dissenter liturgical texts and early editions of the American Episcopal Church's prayer book. The pamphlet remained a major influence on proposed liturgical changes in the Church of England until the 19th-century Tractarian movement. ( Full article...)

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Aston Martin Rapide S

The Aston Martin Rapide is an executive sports saloon car that was produced by the British carmaker Aston Martin between 2010 and 2020. Development of the car commenced in 2005, and after about two months, a concept car, called the Rapide, was completed and displayed at the North American International Auto Show in 2006. In 2009, three years after the concept's unveiling, the production version debuted at the International Motor Show Germany. Official manufacture of the car began on 7 May 2010, at Magna Steyr's facility in Graz, Austria, but production was shifted to Gaydon, Warwickshire, in 2012 after Aston Martin received funding from the British government. Over its production run, the Rapide received two major updates, with the introduction of the Rapide S (pictured) in 2013 and the Rapide AMR in 2018. A battery electric version of the Rapide, called the Rapide E, was introduced in 2018 but Aston Martin announced in 2020 that it would not be series produced. ( Full article...)

1295 depiction of Alice arriving at Acre
1295 depiction of Alice arriving at Acre

Alice of Champagne ( c. 1193 – 1246) was the eldest daughter of Queen Isabella I of Jerusalem and Count Henry II of Champagne. In 1210, Alice married her stepbrother King Hugh I of Cyprus, receiving the County of Jaffa as dowry. After her husband's death in 1218, she assumed the regency for their infant son, King Henry I. Her attempts to bolster her claim to Champagne and Brie in France failed. Due to a debate with her uncle Philip of Ibelin, she left Cyprus in 1223. In exile, she married Bohemond, the heir apparent to the Principality of Antioch and the County of Tripoli, but their marriage was annulled. In 1229, she unsuccessfully laid claim to the Kingdom of Jerusalem against the absent Conrad II. In 1240, she married Raoul of Nesle and the High Court of Jerusalem proclaimed them regents for Conrad in 1243, although their power was nominal. Raoul left the kingdom, and Alice, before the end of the year. Alice retained the regency until her death in 1246. ( Full article...)

Existential quantifier, used in logic to express existence
Existential quantifier, used in logic to express existence

Existence is the state of having being or reality. It is often contrasted with essence, since one can understand the essential features of something without knowing whether it exists. Ontology studies existence and differentiates between singular existence of individual entities and general existence of concepts or universals. Entities present in space and time have concrete existence, in contrast to abstract entities, like numbers and sets. Other distinctions are between possible, contingent, and necessary existence and between physical and mental existence. Some philosophers talk of degrees of existence but the more common view is that an entity either exists or not, with no intermediary states. It is controversial whether existence can be understood as a property of individual objects and, if so, whether there are nonexistent objects. The concept of existence has a long history and played a role in the ancient period in pre-Socratic, Hindu, Buddhist, and Daoist philosophy. ( Full article...)

Original premises of Blackrocks
Original premises of Blackrocks

Blackrocks Brewery is a craft brewery in Marquette, Michigan. Taking the name from a local landmark, former pharmaceutical salesmen David Manson and Andy Langlois opened Blackrocks in 2010. They originally brewed their products in the basement of a Victorian-style house (pictured), and the building's two other floors were used as a taproom. By 2013, persistent high demand for Blackrocks' beer led Manson and Langlois to expand their brewing capacity, including the purchase and conversion of a former Coca-Cola bottling plant. In the early 2020s, they expanded Blackrocks' taproom into an adjacent property, which doubled its available indoor area. Blackrocks produced 12,687 barrels of beer in 2023, up about 11 percent from the year prior, and they are the largest craft brewery in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Their most popular beer is 51K, an American IPA named for a local ski marathon. ( Full article...)

Albert Stanley, 1st Baron Ashfield

Albert Stanley, 1st Baron Ashfield (8 August 1874 – 4 November 1948), was the managing director and chairman of the Underground Electric Railways Company of London (UERL) from 1910 to 1933, and the chairman of the London Passenger Transport Board (LPTB) from 1933 to 1947. At a young age, he held senior positions in the tramway systems of Detroit and New Jersey. In 1907 he was recruited by the UERL, where he integrated the company's management and used advertising and public relations to improve profits. As managing director of the UERL from 1910, he led the take-over of competing companies and operations to form Combine, an integrated transport operation. He was Member of Parliament for Ashton-under-Lyne from 1916 to 1920 and President of the Board of Trade between 1916 and 1919. He returned to the UERL and then chaired it and its successor the LPTB during the organisation's greatest period of expansion between the two world wars, making it an exemplar of the best form of public administration. ( Full article...)

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Sedum acre, commonly known as the biting stonecrop, is a perennial flowering plant in the family Crassulaceae. It is native to Europe, North Africa and parts of Asia, and is naturalised in other places such as North America and New Zealand. It is a low-growing plant which is adapted for growth on thin dry soils, being found on terrain including dry grassland, beaches, drystone walls and roadside verges. The plant forms mat-like stands up to 12 centimetres (5 inches) tall. For most of the year the stems are short with dense leaf coverage, but during the flowering season in June and July, the stems lengthen and become erect. This S. acre plant with a length of 3.5 centimetres (1.4 inches) was photographed in Niitvälja, Estonia.

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Oriana Skylar Mastro
Soviet Red Army Monument, Harbin
Soviet Red Army Monument, Harbin


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The Cannonball
Celine Dept in 2024
Celine Dept in 2024
T. acutiloba in bloom
T. acutiloba in bloom
Sketch of Capital Bicycle Club uniform, 1883
Sketch of Capital Bicycle Club uniform, 1883
Hannibal von Degenfeld, engraving by Wolfgang Philipp Kilian
Hannibal von Degenfeld, engraving by Wolfgang Philipp Kilian
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TFA/TFL requests Information


Summary chart

Currently accepting requests from October 1 to October 31.

Date Article Notes Supports Opposes
Nonspecific 1 BAE Systems 1 0
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October 1 The Founding Ceremony of the Nation 75th anniversary of event depicted 3 0
October 9 The Birds (Alexander McQueen collection) 30th anniversary of collection at runway 1 1
October 21 Takin' It Back 2nd anniversary of release 1 0
October 22 The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes 3rd anniversary of release/editor's first FA/TFA nom 1 0
October 22 Red (Taylor Swift album) 12th anniversary of release 1 0
October 23 Wells Cathedral 785th anniversary of consecration. TFA re-run 1 0
October 29 1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game 103rd anniversary of the game 2 0

Tally may not be up to date. The nominator is included in the number of supporters.

Nonspecific date nominations

Nonspecific date 1

BAE Systems

BAE Systems has offices in the Farnborough Aerospace Centre business park.
BAE Systems has offices in the Farnborough Aerospace Centre business park.

BAE Systems is a British multinational aerospace, defence and information security company, based in London, England. It is the largest defence contractor in Europe and the seventh-largest in the world. Its largest operations are in the United Kingdom and in the United States, where it is one of the six largest suppliers to the US Department of Defense. Other major markets include Saudi Arabia, Australia, Canada, Japan, India and Turkey. The company was formed in 1999 by the merger of Marconi Electronic Systems with the defence arm of the General Electric Company and British Aerospace. BAE has made a number of acquisitions, most notably of United Defense and Armor Holdings and has sold its shares in Airbus. It is involved in several major defence projects, including the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, the Eurofighter Typhoon, and the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers. ( Full article...)

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Specific date nominations

October 1

The Founding Ceremony of the Nation

Tourists take photographs of the painting
Tourists take photographs of the painting

The Founding Ceremony of the Nation is a 1953 oil painting by Chinese artist Dong Xiwen. It depicts Mao Zedong and other Communist officials inaugurating the People's Republic of China at Tiananmen Square on October 1, 1949. A prominent example of socialist realism, it is one of the most celebrated works of official Chinese art. After the Communists took control of China, they sought to memorialize their success with art. Dong was selected, and completed the painting in three months in a folk art style, drawing on historical Chinese art. The painting's success was assured when Mao viewed it and liked it, and it was widely reproduced for home display. Dong was ordered to remove Gao Gang from the painting in 1954 and Liu Shaoqi in 1967, after government purges. In 1972 a copy was made by other artists to accommodate another deletion. After the purged officials were rehabilitated, the replica was modified in 1979 to include them. Both canvases are in the National Museum of China in Beijing. ( Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): Empire of the Sultans was last art, on July 23
  • Main editors: Wehwalt
  • Promoted: 2017
  • Reasons for nomination: 75th anniversary of the event depicted in the painting. Also the 75th anniversary of the People's Republic of China. Rerun of October 1, 2017
  • Support as nominator. Wehwalt ( talk) 00:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
For the image, you can crop the original file to zoom in on the actual painting. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 03:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The painting is within copyright. Showing it this way, with tourists taking photos of it and a small portion obscured, is at least defensibly not a derivative work.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 12:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The painting on exhibit with artifacts of the October 1, 1949 ceremony
Another possibility is at right, the other canvas. It's harder to tell what it is though.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 12:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Oh wow, I would have just assumed that a public work in the 50's commissioned by the CCP would be public domain by now. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 19:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
No, it's a URAA matter. Dong has now been dead 50 years and the copyright has expired in China, but that was not true on the URAA restoration date of 1 January 1996 for China. Therefore, the copyright in the US will not expire until 95 years after publication, which was probably sometime in the mid-1950s, depending on when they first printed it in a publication or reproduced it for sale.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 19:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Support 750 h+ 03:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Support joeyquism ( talk) 23:53, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

October 9

The Birds (Alexander McQueen collection)

Jacket from the collection
Jacket from the collection

The Birds is the fifth collection by Alexander McQueen for his fashion house. It was inspired by ornithology and the Alfred Hitchcock film The Birds, for which it was named. The collection centred around sharply tailored garments and emphasised female sexuality. The runway show was staged on 9 October 1994 and the venue was a warehouse in the London district of King's Cross. The Birds was styled with imagery of violence and death; some models were covered in tyre tracks and others wore white contact lenses. Reception was generally positive, although the styling drew accusations of misogyny. The show's success allowed McQueen to secure the financial backing to stage his next show, Highland Rape. Garments from The Birds appeared in both stagings of the retrospective exhibition Alexander McQueen: Savage Beauty. Seán McGirr heavily referenced The Birds for Autumn/Winter 2024, his debut collection as creative director for the Alexander McQueen brand. ( Full article...)

@ Joeyquism: Just noting that I am not the original FAC nominator. Instead, I often suggest articles at TFA to run on specific dates meaningful to the article. I'm fine with waiting if that is what the community wants. Z1720 ( talk) 20:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
@ Z1720: Thank you for the clarification! I was aware of the authorship discrepancy, but I just wanted to get my two cents in over here where the coordinators can see more easily. joeyquism ( talk) 20:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Excessive amount of Alexander McQueen fashion collections on TFA. These should be spaced out much more apart. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 06:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Seriously concerned with the direction we are heading in and the rhetoric coming out of users with zero FAs to their name.-- N Ø 07:28, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • support: agree with MaranoFan - PMC's work on these articles is admirable. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 22:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

October 21

Takin' It Back

Meghan Trainor
Meghan Trainor

Takin' It Back is the fifth major-label studio album by American singer-songwriter Meghan Trainor. Epic Records released it on October 21, 2022. Trainor worked with producers including Federico Vindver and Gian Stone, and featured artists like Teddy Swims and Natti Natasha. Takin' It Back is a doo-wop and bubblegum pop album about motherhood and self-acceptance, which Trainor conceived as a return to the sound of her album Title (2015) after its title track went viral on TikTok. Trainor promoted the former with televised performances and two singles, " Bad for Me" and " Made You Look". The latter peaked at number 11 in the US, and reached the top 10 in several other countries. Reviewers thought Takin' It Back showcased Trainor's maturity, growth, and musicality, but they were divided on whether it was a progression from her earlier work. The album debuted at number 16 on the US Billboard 200. Its deluxe edition was supported by the single " Mother". ( This article is part of two featured topics: Takin' It Back and Meghan Trainor albums.) ( Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): Weezer's Pinkerton is scheduled for September 24.
  • Main editors: MaranoFan
  • Promoted: June 11, 2023
  • Reasons for nomination: 2nd anniversary of release. The album shares its release date with Midnights, which I expect to get the date next year, so that is why I am interested in getting it to run this year. It feels fair at a five-month gap from the last Trainor TFA and it is not feasible to space these out by a year.
  • Support as nominator. N Ø 20:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Unfortunate that Red and this album have release anniversaries within 1 day of each other (albeit 10 years apart)! Still going to support as you're both the author and nominator, and of course on the basis that this is a great body of work. Decision of promotion will ultimately be at the discretion of the coordinators, but I thought it'd be worth it to back this regardless. joeyquism ( talk) 20:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Both running would be the best case scenario imo. I figured one of these would not stand a chance if only the other had a proper nomination.-- N Ø
  • Oppose - 2nd Anniversary is nothing special, plus and there's already been two Megan Trainor albums on TFA already this year . Recent pop-culture articles are more likely to have a fanbase to make FA and to get them onto TFA versus older music which might be forgotten. That represents a systematic bias towards recent events and pop-culture, which we should be aware of and try to counter-act by balancing out recent pop-culture against the greater history of pop-culture. Albums should aim for 10th, 20th, 30th, etc anniversaries which also naturally help space articles out and balance them out more. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 06:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • We allow articles to re-run after five years but albums should wait for 10 years to go on the main page for the first time...? There is something wrong with that and it seriously disincentivizes improvement of pop culture content. Should they just never re-run then? Are you going to oppose Pinkerton already scheduled in September, which literally already ran in 2011?-- N Ø 07:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

October 22

Red (Taylor Swift album)

Taylor Swift performing on the Red Tour in 2013
Taylor Swift performing on the Red Tour in 2013

Red is the fourth studio album by the American singer-songwriter Taylor Swift, released on October 22, 2012, by Big Machine Records. Its songs portray the complex and conflicting feelings that result from fading romance, and combines pop, country, and rock, using acoustic instruments alongside synths and drum machines. Red was supported by a world tour, the Red Tour (2013–2014), and seven singles; " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" peaked atop the US Billboard Hot 100, and " I Knew You Were Trouble" reached the top ten in Australasia and Europe. Critics praised Swift's songwriting for its emotional exploration but were divided on the musical styles, with some calling them inconsistent and questioning Swift's identity as a country artist. The album was nominated for Album of the Year and Best Country Album at the 2014 Grammy Awards, and topped the charts in Australasia, Canada, the United Kingdom, and the United States. ( This article is part of a featured topic: Taylor Swift original studio albums.)

The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes

Ashley Tisdale
Ashley Tisdale

The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes is an interactive drama and survival horror video game, developed by Supermassive Games and published by Bandai Namco Entertainment. It is the third game of the first season of The Dark Pictures Anthology and was released on 22 October 2021. Ashley Tisdale (pictured) was marketed as the game's lead. Set during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the plot follows four Americans working for the US Armed Forces and one Iraqi Republican Guard who fall into a subterranean Akkadian temple where they must work together to survive the vampiric creatures that infest the area. The game features two single-player gameplay modes and two that are multiplayer, one which is played online, while the other can be played locally. House of Ashes received mixed reviews from critics upon release. The fourth game in the series, The Devil in Me, was revealed in a teaser trailer at the end of House of Ashes, and released on 18 November 2022. ( Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): Looks like OneShot was the most recent video game article on June 30, 2024.
  • Main editors: PSA and ZooBlazer
  • Promoted: April 2, 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: This was my first FA and would also be my first TFA. The release date was October 22, 2021, so I was hoping to have it run for its anniversary.
  • Support as nominator. -- Zoo Blazer 06:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

October 23

Wells Cathedral 1

West front of Wells Cathedral
West front of Wells Cathedral

Wells Cathedral is an Anglican cathedral in Wells, Somerset, England, dedicated to Andrew the Apostle. It is the seat of the Bishop of Bath and Wells, whose cathedra it holds as mother church of the Diocese of Bath and Wells. Built as a Roman Catholic cathedral from around 1175 to replace an earlier church on the site since 705, it became an Anglican cathedral when Henry VIII split from Rome. Its Gothic architecture is mostly inspired from Early English style of the late 12th to early 13th centuries. The stonework of its pointed arcades and fluted piers bears pronounced mouldings and carved capitals in a foliate, "stiff-leaf" style. The east end retains much ancient stained glass. Unlike many cathedrals of monastic foundation, Wells has many surviving secular buildings linked to its chapter of secular canons, including the Bishop's Palace and the 15th-century residential Vicars' Close. It is a Grade I listed building. ( Full article...)

October 29

1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game

Centre players on their sideline during the game
Centre players on their sideline during the game

The 1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game was a regular-season collegiate American football game played on October 29, 1921, at Harvard Stadium in Boston, Massachusetts. The contest featured the undefeated Centre Praying Colonels, representing Centre College, and the undefeated Harvard Crimson, representing Harvard University. Centre entered the game as heavy underdogs, as Harvard had received 3-to-1 odds to win prior to kickoff. The only score of the game came less than two minutes into the third quarter when Centre quarterback Bo McMillin rushed for a touchdown. The conversion failed but the Colonels' defense held for the remainder of the game, and Centre won the game 6–0. The game is widely viewed as one of the largest upsets in college football history. It is often referred to by the shorthand "C6H0"; this originated shortly after the game when a Centre professor remarked that Harvard had been poisoned by this "impossible" chemical formula. ( Full article...)

The TFAR requests page is currently accepting nominations from October 1 to October 31. Articles for dates beyond then can be listed here, but please note that doing so does not count as a nomination and does not guarantee selection.
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October Dobroslav Jevđević Why (re-run, first TFA was March 9, 2013) Peacemaker67
October 4 Olmec colossal heads Why Simon Burchell Dank
October 11 Funerary art Why Johnbod Dank
October 12 Brighton hotel bombing Why SchroCat
October 14 Brandenburg-class battleship Why Parsecboy Parsecboy and Dank
October 15 Battle of Glasgow, Missouri Why HF
October 17 23rd Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Kama (2nd Croatian) (re-run, first TFA was June 19, 2014) Why Peacemaker67
October 19 " Bad Romance" Why FrB.TG
October 21 Takin' It Back Why MaranoFan
October 22 The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes Why Your Power, ZooBlazer
October 25 Fusō-class battleship Why Sturmvogel_66 and Dank Peacemaker67
October 25 Katy Perry Why SNUGGUMS 750h+
October 29 1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game Why PCN02WPS
October 30 Cucurbita Why Sminthopsis84 and Chiswick Chap Dank
October 31 The Smashing Pumpkins Why WesleyDodds Dank
November Yugoslav destroyer Ljubljana Why Peacemaker67
November 3 1964 Illinois House of Representatives election Why Elli
November 6 Russian battleship Poltava (1894) Why harizotoh9
November 11 Mells War Memorial Why HJ Mitchell Ham II
November 17 SMS Friedrich Carl Why Parsecboy Peacemaker67
November 18 Donkey Kong Country Why TheJoebro64, Jaguar TheJoebro64
November 21 MLS Cup 1999 Why SounderBruce
November 22 Donkey Kong 64 Why czar
November 27 Interstate 182 Why SounderBruce
November 28 Battle of Cane Hill Why Hog Farm
December 2 Windswept Adan Why Joeyquism
December 3 PlayStation (console) Why Jaguar Dank
December 8 You Belong with Me Why Ippantekina Sheila1988
December 10 Shovel Knight Showdown Why The Night Watch Gerda Arendt
December 13 Taylor Swift Why (rerun, first TFA was August 23, 2019) Ronherry FrB.TG, Ticklekeys, SNUGGUMS
December 19 SMS Niobe Why Peacemaker67
December 20 Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Why TheJoebro64 Sheila1988
December 25 A Very Trainor Christmas Why MaranoFan Sheila1988
2025:
January 1 York Park Why Harizotoh9
January 4 Liza Soberano Why Pseud 14
January 6 Maria Trubnikova Why Ganesha811 Dank
January 8 Elvis Presley Why PL290, DocKino, Rikstar Dank
January 9 Title (album) Why MaranoFan
January 22 Caitlin Clark Why Sportzeditz Dank
January 27 The Holocaust in Bohemia and Moravia Why Harizotoh9
January 28 Lewis W. Green Why PCN02WPS
January 29 Dominik Hašek Why Harizotoh9
March 18 Edward the Martyr Why Amitchell125 Sheila1988
March 26 Pierre Boulez Why Dmass Sheila1988
April 1 Pig-faced women Why Harizotoh9
April 12 Dolly de Leon Why Pseud 14
April 15 Lady Blue (TV series) Why Aoba47 Harizotoh9
April 18 Battle of Poison Spring Why HF
April 25 1925 FA Cup Final Why Kosack Dank
May 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian) (re-run, first TFA was May 14, 2015) Why Peacemaker67
May 5 Me Too (Meghan Trainor song) Why MaranoFan
May 6 Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories Why Harizotoh9
May 10 Ben&Ben Why Pseud 14
June The Combat: Woman Pleading for the Vanquished Why iridescent Harizotoh9
June 3 David Evans (RAAF officer) Why Harizotoh9
June 8 Barbara Bush Why Harizotoh9
July 1 Maple syrup Why Nikkimaria Dank
July 7 Gustav Mahler Why Brianboulton Dank
July 14 William Hanna Why Rlevse Dank
July 26 Liz Truss Why Tim O'Doherty Tim O'Doherty and Dank
July 29 Tiger Why LittleJerry
July 31 Battle of Warsaw (1705) Why Imonoz Harizotoh9
August 4 Death of Ms Dhu Why Freikorp AirshipJungleman29
August 23 Yugoslav torpedo boat T3 Why Peacemaker67
August 30 Late Registration Why Harizotoh9
September 2 1905–06 New Brompton F.C. season Why Harizotoh9
September 6 Hurricane Ophelia (2005) Why Harizotoh9
September 9 Animaniacs Why Harizotoh9
September 20 Myst V: End of Ages Why Harizotoh9
September 30 or October 1 Hoover Dam Why NortyNort, Wehwalt Dank
October 1 Yugoslav torpedo boat T4 Why Peacemaker67
October 3 Spaghetti House siege Why SchroCat Dank
October 10 Tragic Kingdom Why EA Swyer Harizotoh9
October 16 Angela Lansbury Why Midnightblueowl MisawaSakura
October 18 Royal Artillery Memorial Why HJ Mitchell Ham II
October 27 Half-Life 2: Lost Coast Why
November 1 Matanikau Offensive Why Harizotoh9
November 20 Nuremberg trials Why buidhe harizotoh9
November 21 Canoe River train crash Why Wehwalt
December 25 Marcus Trescothick Why Harizotoh9
2026:
September 25 Ico Why Harizotoh9
2027:
August 25 Genghis Khan Why AirshipJungleman29


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Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock Performance

Living Colour in 1993
Living Colour in 1993

The Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock Performance was an award presented at the Grammy Awards to recording artists for works (songs or albums) containing quality vocal performances in the hard rock genre. The honor was first presented to Living Colour (pictured) at the 32nd Annual Grammy Awards (1990) for the song " Cult of Personality". The bands Foo Fighters, Living Colour, and the Smashing Pumpkins share the record for the most wins, with two each. Alice in Chains holds the record for the most nominations without a win, with eight. ( Full list...)

Thanks for your consideration! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Basshunter discography

Basshunter, a Swedish singer, record producer and DJ, has released five studio albums, two compilation albums, 30 singles, five promotional singles and seven remixes. The Bassmachine, Basshunter's debut studio album, was released by Alex Music on 25 August 2004. In April 2006, he signed his first contract with Extensive Music and Warner Music Sweden. His single " Boten Anna" charted at number one on the Danish singles chart, where it stayed for fourteen weeks; it was certified triple platinum by IFPI Danmark. "Boten Anna" also reached number one in the Swedish singles chart and was certified platinum by IFPI Sverige. His second studio album LOL, released on 28 August 2006, charted in the top five in Sweden, Denmark and Finland. The album was certified platinum by IFPI Finland and double platinum by IFPI Danmark. In late 2006, Basshunter released his albums The Bassmachine and The Old Shit through his own website. Basshunter's third single " Vi sitter i Ventrilo och spelar DotA" was certified gold by IFPI Danmark. Basshunter collaborated with the duo Patrik & Lillen on his single " Vifta med händerna". ( Full list...)

I would suggest 25 August 2024 for 20 years of The Bassmachine release. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurohunter ( talkcontribs) 12:45, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Note that 25 August is a Sunday; this could be run on 23 August (Friday) or 26 August (Monday). RunningTiger123 ( talk) 20:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
@ Eurohunter: pinging for previous comment. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 20:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
@ RunningTiger123: I think 26 August (Monday) would be a good time. Eurohunter ( talk) 18:51, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

List of accolades received by Interstellar

Interstellar, a 2014 epic and science fiction film directed by Christopher Nolan (pictured), won 23 awards from 87 nominations, with particular recognition for Nolan's direction as well as its musical score, cinematography, production design, and visual effects. It received five nominations at the 87th Academy Awards, winning Best Visual Effects. At the 68th British Academy Film Awards, it was nominated for Best Original Music, Best Cinematography and Best Production Design, and won Best Special Visual Effects. The film received eleven nominations at the 41st Saturn Awards, winning six, and seven nominations at the 20th Critics' Choice Awards, winning Best Sci-Fi/Horror Movie. Interstellar was named one of the Top 11 Films of 2014 by the American Film Institute. ( Full list...)

I'd like to suggest September 27, 2024 to coincide with its 10-year anniversary re-release. Sgubaldo ( talk) 03:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Anjelica Huston

Anjelica Huston is an American actress and filmmaker who has received numerous accolades throughout her career. She had her breakthrough role in the black comedy film Prizzi's Honor (1985), which won her the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, making her the third generation of her family to win an Oscar, following her father John and grandfather Walter Huston. She received two additional Academy Award nominations for Enemies, A Love Story (1989) and The Grifters (1990). She received two BAFTA Award nominations for the Woody Allen–directed films Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989) and Manhattan Murder Mystery (1993), and two Golden Globe Award nominations for her interpretation of Morticia Addams in The Addams Family (1991) and its sequel Addams Family Values (1993). ( Full list...)

-- Leo Mercury ( talk) 18:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


List of accolades received by Star Wars: The Force Awakens

John Williams
John Williams

Star Wars: The Force Awakens, a 2015 American epic space opera film directed by J. J. Abrams, won 40 awards from 104 nominations, with particular recognition for its visual effects, musical score, and sound effects. It garnered two nominations at the 88th Academy Awards, including Best Visual Effects. At the 69th British Academy Film Awards, the film was nominated for Best Original Music, Best Sound, and Best Production Design; and won Best Special Visual Effects. The film received a nomination for Best Picture at the 21st Critics' Choice Awards. In 2016, composer John Williams (pictured) won Best Score Soundtrack for Visual Media at the Grammy Awards' 59th ceremony. It won eight of fifteen nominations at the 42nd Saturn Awards. In addition, the American Film Institute selected The Force Awakens as one of the top ten films of the year. ( Full list...)

Would suggest for December 13, 2024, as it is the closest to the anniversary of the Hollywood, Los Angeles, premiere of Star Wars: The Force Awakens on December 14, 2015. Chompy Ace 23:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Outline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

The Marvel Cinematic Universe logo
The Marvel Cinematic Universe logo

The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is an American media franchise and shared universe created by Marvel Studios. Beginning in 2008 with the release of the film Iron Man, the franchise has since expanded to include various feature films and television series produced by Marvel Studios, television series from Marvel Television, and other media based on Marvel Comics characters. Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige oversees the main MCU productions. The MCU, similar to the original Marvel Universe, was established by crossing over common plot elements, settings, cast, and characters. It has been commercially successful, becoming one of the highest-grossing media franchises and the highest-grossing film franchise. This includes Avengers: Endgame, which concluded its theatrical run in 2019 as the highest-grossing film of all time. The franchise's success has influenced other studios to attempt similar shared universes. ( Full list...)

I would like to suggest this for May 2, 2025, as it is the 17 year anniversary of the release of the first MCU film, Iron Man, to a tee. I know 2025 is a ways away, though I felt it was best to get this submitted sooner rather than later. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 05:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

List of Vegas Golden Knights draft picks

2017 second-round selection Nicolas Hague
2017 second-round selection Nicolas Hague

The Vegas Golden Knights are a professional ice hockey franchise located in Las Vegas, Nevada. Founded ahead of the 2017–18 season as an expansion team, they play in the Pacific Division of the Western Conference in the National Hockey League (NHL). As of 2024, the Golden Knights have made 54 selections in eight NHL entry drafts. The Golden Knights first participated in the 2017 NHL entry draft, where they made Cody Glass their first-ever selection at sixth overall; they also selected Nick Suzuki and Erik Brannstrom later in the first round. 2017 second-round selection Nicolas Hague has played the most games for the Golden Knights of any draft pick, with 296 games played as of the conclusion of the 2023–24 NHL season. Hague and 2018 fifth-round pick Paul Cotter were the only draft picks to be inscribed on the Stanley Cup after the Golden Knights' victory in the 2023 Stanley Cup Finals. ( Full list...)

The Kip ( contribs) 04:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

77th Academy Awards

Clint Eastwood
Clint Eastwood

The 77th Academy Awards ceremony, presented by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), honored films released in 2004 and took place on February 27, 2005, at the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood, Los Angeles. During the ceremony, AMPAS presented Academy Awards in 24 categories. The ceremony, televised in the United States by ABC, was produced by Gilbert Cates and directed by Louis J. Horvitz. Actor Chris Rock hosted the show for the first time. Million Dollar Baby won four awards including Best Picture and Best Director for Clint Eastwood (pictured). Other winners included The Aviator with five awards and The Incredibles and Ray with two. The telecast garnered over 42 viewers in the United States. ( Full list...)

I would like this list to be posted on March 3 since the 97th Academy Awards are scheduled for March 2 (or March 3 00:00 UTC), and it will have been 20 years since this particular ceremony occurred.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Birdienest81 ( talkcontribs) 06:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

List of presidents of the United States

Since the presidency of the United States was established in 1789, 45 men have served in 46 presidencies. The president is the head of state and government, elected indirectly for a four-year term via the Electoral College. The officeholder leads the executive branch of the federal government and is the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces. The first president, George Washington, won a unanimous vote of the Electoral College, and was the was the only one never affiliated with a political party. William Henry Harrison's presidency was the shortest at 31 days. Franklin D. Roosevelt served the longest, over twelve years, and is the only president to serve more than two terms. Since the Twenty-second Amendment in 1951, no person may be elected president more than twice, and no one who has served more than two years of another's term may be elected more than once. Four presidents died of natural causes in office (William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin D. Roosevelt), four were assassinated ( Abraham Lincoln, James A. Garfield, William McKinley, and John F. Kennedy), and one resigned ( Richard Nixon). The incumbent president is _____, who assumed office on January 20, 20__ ( Full list...)

Feel free to copy-edit the blurb or make any other appropriate changes. As for the image, I decided to go with this group pic rather that simply the presidential flag or the White House. The portraits of Joe Biden/Donald Trump might be a bit controversial. I, alongside many other editors, helped promote this list to FL status a few years ago, and what would be a better date to run it than January 20, 2025 (Monday)! The only hurdle would be that we'll require assistance from an admin to update it real-time to change it from Biden to whoever would be. Let me know what your thoughts are. – Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 19:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

What if it was worded as "The most recently elected president is ___, who takes office on January 20, 2025."? I don't think that would have to be updated during the day. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 19:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
"45 men have served in 46 presidencies" will also be needed to update; as the things stand, Biden is not seeking another term, so this figure, for sure, would have to be changed at 12 noon Washington DC time, or whenever the next president takes the oath. – Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 14:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Good point. If we end up having an admin update this, I don't think that would be too challenging as long as the exact change is specified in advance. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 04:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

List of cities in Luhansk Oblast

View of Luhansk, capital and most populous city in the oblast
View of Luhansk, capital and most populous city in the oblast

In Ukraine's easternmost Luhansk Oblast, there are 37 populated places officially granted city status by the Verkhovna Rada, the country's parliament. Settlements with more than 10,000 people are eligible to become cities although the status is also typically given by parliament to settlements of historical or regional importance. According to the country's last official census in 2001, the most populous city in the oblast was the regional capital Luhansk, with a population of 463,097 people, while the least populous city was Almazna, with 5,061 people. Following the Donbas war in 2014, 25 of the oblast's cities were occupied by pro-Russian separatists. After the enactment of decommunization laws across the country, nine cities in separatist-occupied territory were de jure given new names in 2016 which were unrecognized by de facto pro-Russian officials in the cities. During the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russian troops have occupied all cities in the oblast since the end of the battle of Lysychansk in 2022. ( Full list...)

Dan the Animator 04:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

This is my first front-page FL nomination so any feedback would be great (also feel free to edit the blurb... I'm sure it can be improved!). Cheers, Dan the Animator 04:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Also feel free to switch out the image with a better one if there are any (I tried searching before but its tough to find a good cityscape image of Luhansk or most of the oblast's cities). Dan the Animator 04:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

United States congressional delegations from Arizona

Map of Arizona's nine congressional districts for the United States House of Representatives since 2022
Map of Arizona's nine congressional districts for the United States House of Representatives since 2022

Since Arizona became a U.S. state in 1912, it has sent congressional delegations to the United States Senate and United States House of Representatives, beginning with the 63rd United States Congress in 1913. Before becoming a state, the Arizona Territory elected a non-voting delegate at-large to Congress from 1864 to 1912. Each state elects two senators to serve for six years, and varying numbers of members of the House, depending on state population, to two-year terms. Arizona has sent nine members to the House in each delegation since the 2010 United States Census. A total of 57 people have served Arizona in the House and 14 have served Arizona in the Senate. The first woman to serve Arizona in the House was Isabella Greenway. Seven women have served Arizona in the House, including Kyrsten Sinema and Martha McSally, who also served Arizona in the Senate, the only women to do so. ( Full list...)

Staraction ( talk | contribs) 20:58, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

The Linda Lindas performing live in 2022, at First Avenue; L–R: Lucia de la Garza, Mila de la Garza, Eloise Wong, and Bela Salazar
The Linda Lindas performing live in 2022, at First Avenue; L–R: Lucia de la Garza, Mila de la Garza, Eloise Wong, and Bela Salazar

The discography of the Linda Lindas, an American rock band, consists of two studio albums, two extended plays, thirteen singles, and ten music videos. The Linda Lindas was formed in Los Angeles in 2018 by Bela Salazar (guitar, vocals), Eloise Wong (bass guitar, vocals), Lucia de la Garza (guitar, vocals), and Mila de la Garza (drums, vocals). The Linda Lindas released their self-titled debut EP independently in 2020. In 2021, the band went viral with a performance of " Racist, Sexist Boy" and subsequently signed with the Los Angeles-based label Epitaph Records. They released another EP which contains music that appeared in the Netflix film Moxie. The Linda Lindas released their debut album, entitled Growing Up, in 2022. Their second album, No Obligation, will be released in 2024. ( Full list...)

The Sharpest Lives ( 💬✏️ℹ️) ( ping me!) 21:10, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I would like to suggest October 11, 2024 to coincide with the scheduled release of their second album. – The Sharpest Lives ( 💬✏️ℹ️) ( ping me!) 21:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
If it were to appear that day, the blurb could be changed from "Their second album, No Obligation, will be released in 2024" to "Their second album, No Obligation, was released in 2024" or "was released today". – The Sharpest Lives ( 💬✏️ℹ️) ( ping me!) 21:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

List of games by Supermassive Games

Supermassive Games is a British video game developer based in Guildford, Surrey. They have worked on over 20 games since 2008. Until 2018 Supermassive worked almost exclusively with PlayStation, first working on downloadable content for LittleBigPlanet. The studio published their first game, Big Match Striker, in September 2010. Supermassive worked on multiple games that utilised the PlayStation Move motion controller including Start the Party! and Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves, both of which were released in 2010. In 2015, the studio started to focus mostly on interactive drama survival horror video games, starting with their breakout title, Until Dawn, which won the BAFTA Games Award for Original Property in 2016. With the success of Until Dawn, the studio continued to expand the universe, releasing two spin-off titles; Until Dawn: Rush of Blood (2016) and The Inpatient (2018), for PlayStation VR. In August 2019, Supermassive released Man of Medan, the first game in the Dark Pictures Anthology. In 2022, The Quarry, the spiritual successor to Until Dawn, was released. Supermassive's next game, The Casting of Frank Stone, a game set in the Dead by Daylight universe, will be released on 3 September 2024. ( Full list...)

I'd suggest September 2, 2024 which is the day before their next games releases. -- Zoo Blazer 07:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

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Ismail Haniyeh in September 2022
Ismail Haniyeh

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September 11 prosecutions

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Article:  United States v. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid bin Attash, and Mustafa al-Hawsawi agree to plead guilty in connection with planning the September 11 attacks (pictured). ( Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
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  • Wait significant, but the actual trial will the event that gets coverage. Hold until then. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 22:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    There is no formal trial for these defendants, only a military commission. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Sentencing, sorry. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 00:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose good story but no significant change for these men. They are already in custody and will remain so. Natg 19 ( talk) 22:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Article is appropriately orange tagged and appears to need lots of work. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 22:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Conditional support The really notable thing here is their guilty plea removes the possibility of a death penalty (instead they will serve a life sentence) but also removes the possibility of a trial and the risk of the case being overturned due to 'invalid' evidence This has been in flux for years, and its an important development after a decade+ of legal drama. With that said, there could be a possible 'mini trial' and we could post then (likely next year). Or post now, but after improvements to the article (currently only contains a single sentence about the guilty plea and is not nearly ready for ITN). Schwinnspeed ( talk) 22:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose, the article isn't in good shape and this isn't notable Personisinsterest ( talk) 23:45, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support, big news. this is the biggest development in this case that has been ongoing for more than 20 years. A guilty plea wasn't expected because there was talk of the government wanting to imprison them for life (or just sentence them to death). President Biden even denied a plea proposal just last September. That Coptic Guyping me! ( talk) ( contribs) 01:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose This is really nothing, doesn't cap off anything since they've been incarcerated since. Article is also poor quality, far too much proseline and details and not really a narrative approach of a quality article. -- Masem ( t) 01:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose WTF? This event was 20 years ago. The first thing the article needs to explain is why this is happening at all right now. And a quick glance didn't answer that question for me. A simple explanation for us ignorant masses please, before I can support anything being posted. HiLo48 ( talk) 01:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    @ HiLo48 - Various leaders of al-Qaeda and their associates have been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay since the early days of the Bush administration, on charges that they were the planners behind 9/11 alongside bin Laden. The U.S. government has brought up a criminal case against them and has purposely drawn it out so these terrorists have little to no chance of release. The death penalty or life in prison is what they were seeking, and there were also concerns that exculpatory evidence was being withheld. Today, indeed after 20+ years, a deal seems to have been reached where the terrorists have entered a guilty plea. It is the most significant movement in the case against the 9/11 terrorists in years. That Coptic Guyping me! ( talk) ( contribs) 02:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    User:That Coptic Guy Thanks for that explanation. I'd suggest that some of what you've written there needs to be right up front in the article this nomination is based on. This is a global encyclopaedia, and a lot of readers will be like me, quite unaware of that background information. HiLo48 ( talk) 03:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment — The linked article unquestionably needs more work. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 05:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Moussa Dadis Camara

Article:  Moussa Dadis Camara ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Former President of Guinea Moussa Dadis Camara is found guilty of crimes against humanity. ( Post)
News source(s): [1]
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The article looks to be well sourced. It has a outdated tag, though I'm not sure this is really necessary. Gödel2200 ( talk) 17:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Support fairly notable Ion.want.uu ( talk) 18:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Support as per Ion.want.uu, news from Africa rarely reach western audiences, and debatabaly, it is just as significant as highly visible events, such as the recent assassination of Ismail Haniyeh. Article needs some more work, though. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 23:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Support, notable Personisinsterest ( talk) 23:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose on quality, article still needs plenty of work. Among other issues, there is a tag that has been there for almost 10 years asking for an update on the massacre that the former president is responsible for. That Coptic Guyping me! ( talk) ( contribs) 01:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality per above. Will switch to support if/when it’s improved, a former head of state being convicted of crimes against humanity is notable enough. The Kip ( contribs) 02:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on Quality per above. Definitely something that should be posted if/when the page is brought up to scratch. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 04:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support in principle but oppose on quality per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 04:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Support on notability as per above. -- MtPenguinMonster ( talk) 04:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Killing of Ismail Haniyeh

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Article:  Killing of Ismail Haniyeh ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas, is killed in Tehran. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, is assassinated in Tehran.
News source(s): The New York Times
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  • Wait Lets get some more detail and flesh out the article. Right now we don't know much at all. It's also worth noting that today/tonight Israel is believed to have killed a senior military commander of Hezbollah in Beirut. Kind of reminds me of the last 10 minutes of The Godfather when all of the family's accounts are settled. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 03:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Zero need for a separate death article, unless the actual operation that took him down is well documented. Save for a couple of tags, the main bio article is ready to go. (And this is pending confirmation that seems up in the air right now. And to add once more, if true, clearly notable and ITN appropriate beyond the current ongoings) -- Masem ( t) 04:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong support Confirmed by Iranian sources, which are likely to be biased more towards Haniyeh and in favor of reporting him alive, but that is not the case. Apart from the legitimacy of this assassination, I strongly disagree with Masem in this regard and believe this should have a standalone article aswell as this marks the highest killing of a Hamas official/leader since the Israel-Hamas war started on October 7 and since the killing of Saleh al Arouri in January. Although it's very early right now to say anything about the killing, I believe as more time passes, more information will eventually be revealed as this is a huge event. Worst case scenario, if the killing is so poorly documented, I still believe it should have a standalone section in some article somewhere. Haniyeh has also held numerous positions other than just leading Hamas. TwistedAxe [contact] 04:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Unlike Killing of Osama bin Laden, where there is a great deal of discussion of the specific operation as well as the past attempts to kill him, all that is in the present article is 50% reaction material, 25% background, and the rest speculation as to the actual event. This is not how we write event articles, but we certainly can present the death as part of the biographical article. -- Masem ( t) 12:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
      Right, but I believe we’re still in the early stages and clearing the fog of war. If the dust settles and the assassination is still poorly documented, I’d say we put it under the Death section definitely. If, however, enough information is presented, I’d say we definitely keep the standalone article. TwistedAxe [contact] 14:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
      It's not unreasonable to have kept the details in both the bio article as well as at least one of the overarching ongoing articles about this Gaza conflict, particularly the latter because it provides the necessarily context of the larger picture. And then if extensive details of the actual Assassination emerge later then create the standalone. But this reverse way encourages bad splits as the potential of POV forks, as well as poor quality articles in trying to isolate the event from the larger picture without clearly knowing if that split makes sense. This type of approach is contrary to NOTNEWS and doesn't make for high quality ITN material that we are supposed to feature. Masem ( t) 14:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality: Article still needs a lot more work in order to qualify for ITN. More information is also needed on the assassination. Support once all these issues have been addressed. Tofusaurus ( talk) 04:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait - article is still developing/too short, and fog of war is still very much in effect w/ regards to exactly what happened (airstrike vs “raid,” official claims of responsibility, etc). Pretty much all that’s clearly confirmed at this moment is that he was assassinated in the first place. The Kip ( contribs) 04:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong support, per TwistedAxe. The article should be " Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh".-- Dr-Taher ( talk) 04:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ITN worthy, but wait until more reporting comes in, then we need to add the cause of death to the blurb because the current one is too short Afif Brika1 ( talk) 05:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh is just one small section of Ismail Haniyeh that was split out into its own stub for some reason. If this were fixed, then the main article would just need a little proseline clean up before it's ready. It's also developing a list of WP:INDISCRIMINATE trivia in the "responses" section as these articles often do, so that's another barrier. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 05:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on the basis of it being a notable event. Kurtis (talk) 05:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 06:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on notability, huge development. Shadow4dark ( talk) 07:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb to specify that Haniyeh was the group's political leader rather than military leader. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – ( Thanks ) 09:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Yes, This is an important point to mention. Dr-Taher ( talk) 09:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. Toadette Edit! 10:29, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. On notability. 🛧 Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 10:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Strong support on notability Personisinsterest ( talk) 10:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
By the way, can we get a picture of him in here? Personisinsterest ( talk) 11:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong Support Israel-Palestine is arguably the most notable topic in the world right now , Article is good enough . Altblurb is better as it states that he was political leader AlexBobCharles ( talk) 11:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted Step hen 12:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Why not note that he was political leader? 3 people (including me) supported this in this discussion AlexBobCharles ( talk) 12:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Yes, this mention is important. _-_Alsor ( talk) 13:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Agreed, it's important to specify that Haniyeh ws the political leader. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – ( Thanks ) 13:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • FYI, there are NPOV issues with the article [2]. VR (Please ping on reply) 13:15, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Post-Post Support Ion.want.uu ( talk) 13:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Post-Post Support - Article well cited and well written, except for the WP:FLAGCRUFT. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 13:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Pull NPOV issues. Noah, BSBA Talk 14:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    That is a dispute about some organization of the page and not substantive. There is no reason for an over reaction from here. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 14:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    +1 The NPOV disagreement is small AlexBobCharles ( talk) 14:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Post-posting conditional support - Disagree that NPOV issues warrant pulling, but agree with the above discussion that any blurb should specify he led the political bureau for clarity and accuracy. He was not the commander of the militant organization. The leader of the military wing, Mohammed Deif, is still alive. The average reader could plausibly assume "leader of Hamas" means the leader of the militant group, which is not accurate. An average reader might also assume that him being "the Hamas leader" meant he was the leader of the Gaza Strip, which is also an inaccurate reading as that person is Yahya Sinwar, who is also still alive. He was the highest ranking Hamas official killed in the war so far, but not important in the ways you might expect just based on his title. I do not support having it posted with the current blurb.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Post-Posting comment As pointed above in detail by Vanilla Wizard and others , blurb should specify he was leader of the political bureau AlexBobCharles ( talk) 20:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Robert Fellowes, Baron Fellowes

Article:  Robert Fellowes, Baron Fellowes ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [3] [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Private secretary to Elizabeth II in the 1990s and brother-in-law of Diana, Princess of Wales. Walco1 ( talk) 15:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

July 30

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RD: Onyeka Onwenu

Article:  Onyeka Onwenu ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nigerian singer-songwriter and actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:D057:E125:D731:507A ( talk) 06:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Wayanad landslides

Article:  2024 Wayanad landslides ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 185 people die as a result of 2024 Wayanad landslides in Wayanad, India. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: Landslides in Wayanad, India kill at least 185 people.
Alternative blurb II: The deadliest landslides in Kerala history kill at least 185 in Wayanad.
News source(s): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51y7k2y7v1o
Credits:

These landslides got international media attention. Pachu Kannan ( talk) 15:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support - Notable enough, with multiple international media mentions. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 06:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Deadliest landslide in the region. Article is good enough to post. Sherenk1 ( talk) 10:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. Article structure is good enough to post. 🛧 Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 10:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
also, altblurb 2 Personisinsterest ( talk) 11:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted Step hen 12:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Venezuela protests

Article:  2024 Venezuelan protests ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Protests erupt in Venezuela against the Maduro government, after his victory in the 2024 elections that was widely seen as fraudulent. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Venezuela widespread protests erupt as the official 2024 election results are contested.
Alternative blurb II: Widespread protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election amid allegations of electoral fraud.
Alternative blurb III: ​ At least 19 people are killed during widespread protests in Venezuela after Nicolás Maduro claims to have won the 2024 presidential election amid allegations of electoral fraud.
Alternative blurb IV: Protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election
Credits:

This should probably be combined with the blurb below, but I think the protests are only becoming larger and larger, and are now international news. Article is making good progress. Libertad! PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 10:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Support: This would obviously be better than a blurb only about Maduro's win. Article is small but is expanding. Prodrummer619 ( talk) 10:51, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Perhaps reads more like a chronology, but well updated. And anecdotally, the BBC News report leads with the scale and severity of the protests, only saying "disputed re-election" as context - so I don’t think this needs to be combined with or wait for the election nom (below), it’s sufficiently standalone news. Kingsif ( talk) 12:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I know that there are protests going on there, but just listing a bunch of events in a chronological order without anything else that indicates these are all tied together is not a quality article. -- Masem ( t) 12:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Surely we would combine this blurb with the blurb for the election, so this nomination probably can just be replaced by adding an altblurb to the nom for the presidential election. Gödel2200 ( talk) 14:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment I have added an alt blurb. Unfortunately I am not (as of this comment) satisfied with the quality of the main article on the elections. But I do think the situation in Venezuela merits a blurb on the main page. The protest article is adequate for posting. I have included an unbolded link to the article on the elections. Hopefully it will continue to improve. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 15:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Perhaps a combined blurb could be something like " Widespread protests erupt after Nicolas Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's contested (or "controversial") 2024 presidential election". PtolemyXV ( talk) 15:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Added alt3. It can definitely be improved; death toll taken from the article, which could also be improved, especially after another day. Kingsif ( talk) 20:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support National election results are noteworthy, and I think the quality of the article will continue to improve given the magnitude of the event. Royal Autumn Crest ( talk) 21:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose the blurbs as politically charged, we didn't say it like that for the Rwandan election, even though it is more likely to have had irregularities, judging from the results. Also, wait for the protests to unfold further as they clearly been planned well beforehand, and the article is also largely currently only one-sided. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 12:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Added alt4. There really is no need to append that the results are disputed - the protests themselves would indicate this. And I'm not sure the usage of "widespread" is needed here. But I do think this is to best, and works as a combined blurb. DarkSide830 ( talk) 14:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support alt4, as it is more neutral and not politically charged i.e. imply which side the protests are on. Wait on article about the protests, as work needs to be done to ensure the article is not all on the anti-Chavista side. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 23:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose in general; this article is not being developed, is woefully incomplete, the infobox is mostly OR, and I don't see any chance it is going to improve because of lack of effort. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 00:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment I copied my note on the July 29 listing here. These are some comments I would like to restate:
    IMO, I think the only thing in the way of this being posted is the flagrant political bias in both articles. I think I would like to work on this ^ - ^ -- Viva Nicolás ( talk) 04:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    Remember when the 2019 Bolivian general election was overturned by protests when the opposition alleged they were rigged, but the 2020 Bolivian general election run under the coup regime definitively showed otherwise. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 06:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    The election article can be formatted like the 2019 Bolivian general election article, while the protests article can be formatted like the 2019 Bolivian protests article. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 06:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: William Calley

Article:  William Calley ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American war criminal. Only man convicted in the My Lai Massacre. He died on April 28th but his death was only just reported. Article is in decent shape. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 04:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Support! He was the only one convicted in this important event. 109.43.48.31 ( talk) 13:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

We'll post anyone important enough to have a Wikipedia page; we only assess article quality here. Bremps ... 15:05, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support One cn tag shouldn't keep hit this otherwise lengthy well sourced article from getting posted. -- TDKR Chicago 101 ( talk) 18:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    I have added a cite and removed the only CN tag. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 22:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Article meets ITN standards for posting. Jusdafax ( talk) 00:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

July 29

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  • At least two people are killed and as many as 100 others are injured when a passenger train carrying 800 people collides with a Kamaz truck near Volgograd, Russia, and partially derails. (Al Arabiya)

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RD: Chino XL

Article:  Chino XL ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone, Variety
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American rapper and actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 ( talk) 21:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Robert Banas

Article:  Robert Banas ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American dancer and actors. 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 ( talk) 21:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Weak Support I think the article is adequate (barely) for posting. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 04:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Deadpool & Wolverine

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Article:  Deadpool & Wolverine ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Deadpool & Wolverine, starring Ryan Reynolds (pictured), breaks box office records for an R-rated movie in its opening weekend ( Post)
News source(s): CNN, France24, Hollywood Reporter, LA Times, NYT, Straits Times, Variety
Credits:
Article updated

This has been a hit with our readers too as the top read article for several straight days now, beating the Olympics, the elections and the rest. Andrew🐉( talk) 10:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose ITN is not for these types of news. First of all, we do not post News items just because they are the most read one, that goes here. Second, R-rating is just a US specific rating and a large of readers probably do not know about it and therefore this record holds little value to them. Lastly, it is only the 6th largest opening in the US overall and around 12th biggest worldwide opening for any movie, so hardly a groundbreaking record. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Not the type of business news we post, and to state this yet again, we do not use page views as a metric of whether we should post at ITN in the first place. -- Masem ( t) 11:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per PrinceofPunjab. Estreyeria ( talk) 13:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Prince of Punjab. This isn't the overall record, which is inevitably broken due to inflation. This is like saying there is a new tallest building in the world...well, the tallest that Americans under 17 can enter with adult supervision. Unknown Temptation ( talk) 13:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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New UNESCO World Heritage Sites

Proposed image
Article:  List of World Heritage Sites by year of inscription#2024 (46th session) ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The World Heritage Committee in New Delhi selected 24 new sites for the global List of World Heritage Sites, with the Schwerin Castle in Germany (pictured) among them. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 24 new sites were selected for the global List of World Heritage Sites during the 46th session in New Delhi, India.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The World Heritage Committee designates 24 new UNESCO World Heritage Sites during its 46th session in New Delhi, India ( Schwerin Castle in Germany pictured).
News source(s): UNESCO DW EuroNews
Credits:

Article updated

The newly selected UNESCO World Heritage Sites are normally featured in the News here. Example can be left out or swapped, I think it is usually a wonderful addition. -- Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 09:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support After a huge emphasis on sports and politics lately, more cultural news are definitely appreciated! And this is certainly the most relevant of the past few weeks. Venustates ( talk) 09:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Maybe It's interesting, in the news and encyclopedic but there are over a thousand of these sites now and another 24 seems too many to be headlining particular cases. In the UK, it was the Flow Country which got attention. How do we decide which to feature? Andrew🐉( talk) 10:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    Comment: I totally get that, that's why I said the example can of course also be left out, though it is nice to have a picturesque example included. But I wouldn't put much emphasis on that. Greetings, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 10:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    As I noted below, Ruins of Gedi is a GA and probably the highest-quality article of the sites selected, so it would be a good choice to feature with an image. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 13:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support with a picture of Ruins of Gedi, which is a GA and has the highest-quality article of the sites selected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 13:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    The article looks good, no doubt! Though the Good Article batch is from 2017 already and criteria have become quite a bit more strict. Greetings, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 13:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    I think the Schwerin Castle makes the perfect picture of all new entries! -- Venustates ( talk) 13:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment This happens every year and sometimes more than once per year, and we never post them. This time there are more than 20, and overall more than 1000. What we post are removal of the sites because the countries have managed them badly. This comment coming from someone heavily involved with World Heritage lists ;) -- Tone 13:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    Certainly! At the same time, there are several things that happen every year or multiple times a year, like various sports events, or Oscar recipients (yawn ;) that are *always* posted. It's usually in all national news when a country gets a new World Heritage List entry. -- Venustates ( talk) 13:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Actually, I'll add that the list is factually inaccurate. For example, the Moravian Church settlements were listed in 2015 in Denmark. In 2024, the site was extended to include sites in the US, UK, and Germany. And yet, in the list, everything is listed as in 2015, which is incorrect. Oppose on quality, and on no prose. (but yes, I am all for posting good news) -- Tone 03:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Ok, if it is just about that very detail, how about just changing it in the article and we're good. :) -- Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 09:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support yeah, why not? I get that it hasn't been posted before but I think doing something different would be interesting. Blythwood ( talk) 14:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on account more than anything else of not being sure the best way to blurb this. It's a routine event, but unlike an election, prize, or sporting event, there is no "winner". There is no overarching individual story here save the same sort that happens any individual year. Either we're just saying sites are announced (which isn't really news itself because, again, it's a scheduled event), or we're singling out one like in the original blurb, which is putting undue focus on whichever site we select to feature. DarkSide830 ( talk) 15:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support It's nice to have positive news instead of the usual assassination, coup, plane crash, or natural disaster. Celjski Grad ( talk) 15:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per above, nice to have something good in itn for once Sharrdx ( talk) 15:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support A wonderful nomination! With regards to pics, we could feature several ones over the course of the days this stays on top. E.g. start with Gedi, then Schwerin, etc. until something else supersedes this. Should this make it, and be supported also in upcoming years, this could even be a regular feature for ITNR? Khuft ( talk) 15:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    ITNR would be a lovely idea. However, I don't see how you can vote support when there's so little prose. Bremps ... 16:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    I really like this idea; could be an excellent way to show off a bunch of our articles! ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 12:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on article quality. No stand alone article and in the linked page there is no prose, just tables. I'm not opposed on principle. But we need something with meat on it if we are going to be promoting this on the main page. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 15:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality as there's zero prose. Will support when fixed. The Kip ( contribs) 18:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support in principle, with no comment on article quality as I haven't looked over any of them yet. I've added a second altblurb for consideration. Kurtis (talk) 18:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality I could see us posting this every year, but if the article has no prose, it simply can't be posted. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:16, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose for tabularity and because most sections start with numerals (ending without periods). InedibleHulk ( talk) 21:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose but suggest transferring to featured list This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 22:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    You've been around long enough to know that "toss to x section" is an extremely poor argument. Curbon7 ( talk) 01:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I really want to support given coverage of this has raised my spirits amongst everything else, but per The KIP and Ad Orientem we've declined much more urgent and pressing news in the past due to similar article quality and lack of prose. Schwinnspeed ( talk) 02:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This seemingly happens every year and there's nothing particularly remarkable about this one, particularly as we're not highlighting any of them in particular. Incremental statistics are rarely good ITN material. Obviously would need to address the lack of prose too to be even considered.  —  Amakuru ( talk) 05:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Would it help to add some prose introduction to the Committee session in the article? Or rather integrate it in the World Heritage Committee article as an individual section that can be updated for every new session when new entries are publicly announced? :) Greetings, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 10:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Always cool, but there is no prose update! The section is just a table and that's it. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 12:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Absolutely no article would ever get posted if the only update to it was a table with no prose whatsoever attached, and this should not be an exception. -- Kicking222 ( talk) 13:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Venezuelan presidential election

Article:  2024 Venezuelan presidential election ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nicolás Maduro is announced as the winner of the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Venezuela, incumbent President Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of the presidential election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Incumbent Nicolás Maduro is re-elected President of Venezuela for a third term.
Alternative blurb III: ​ After disputed presidential elections, protests erupt in Venezuela.
Alternative blurb IV: Protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election
News source(s): NY Times BBC News
Credits:
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nicolás Maduro has been announced the winner of the 2024 election. -- Rockstone Send me a message! 04:42, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support "Who gets the most votes means nothing. Who counts the votes, means everything" Joseph Stalin - Ad Orientem ( talk) 04:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Not Ready As noted by others, the article has a number of issues that will require some work before this can be posted. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 14:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ALTBLURB with "declared winner" language used for dubious elections This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 04:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support alt disappointing. Yoblyblob ( Talk) :) 05:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb language used and oppose for citations needed - I caution users to tame their chauvinism. Western media is very obviously biased on this matter. For decades, the West has sought regime change in this nation and election after election we see the West attempt to discredit elections in socialist countries in the Global South. It is frankly disgusting that Wikipedia is joining in this rather than critically assessing our sources for reliability. How many times must we watch as the US manufactures consent for a coup before we realize that we can't trust most US sources on this issue. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 05:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Really? The second citation is British.... not American. -- Rockstone Send me a message! 05:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
You are funny if you think that makes difference. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 05:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
With all due respect, it's outrageous to refer to the BBC as a "US source", and it makes you look very bad. Honestly, your entire comment is outrageous and doesn't serve to help the project in any manner. You should consider striking it. -- Rockstone Send me a message! 15:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Regardless of the authenticity of the election, these discussion pages are not meant to be used to petty bickering. We will use the source deemed most reliable, and whether or not it fits with your stance on the subject, be it politically or as an external perspective/opinion, is not to be taken into consideration. Let's do our best not to become Reddit, thank you. Daneellis114 ( talk) 23:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Yeah best to close the discussion here PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 10:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
For about the 50th time in the last month to various users, personal commentary doesn’t help this project. The Kip ( contribs) 06:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
This was objectively a sham election by all reliable accounts apart from the Maduro regime, stop pushing POV. PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 11:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Do you have any independent sources to back up your entire comment? If not, you yourself are guilty of pushing a pro-Maduro POV. Tube· of· Light 14:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
The BBC is not a reliable source but the Venezuelan regime somehow is PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 18:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Um, hate to be that guy, but countering chauvinism or "chauvinism" with what presents as chauvinism itself isn't helpful. DarkSide830 ( talk) 15:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb with "declared" due to the dispute. Article seems well written and cited. The C of E God Save the King! ( talk) 05:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support the original blurb unless evidence of fraud emerges (which it may, of course) PtolemyXV ( talk) 05:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb, it’s not just “the west” disputing the results but the opposition themselves. The Kip ( contribs) 06:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose The proposed blurbs don't adequately convey the phony nature of the process. And the article is in a poor state with a lot of rambling, citations needed and tense errors. Andrew🐉( talk) 09:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Repeatedly has been shown tht we're not going to try to call out sham elections or their ilk at ITN. We can use language how we say who won that implies that it was not democratic win, like we have done for the last Russian election, but it becomes a NPOV problem to suggest in the ITN blurb if the election is a sham; that's a topic left for the article in question. —  Masem ( t) 11:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
      That's nonsense because numerous editors have supported the alt blurb as a standard signal to the reader that the election was not free and fair. So, we do regularly call out such sham elections in that way but it's too subtle -- we should be more direct rather than dropping hints.
      In any case, there are still the quality issues which are not resolved.
      Andrew🐉( talk) 20:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose article has two cn tags, two orange tags, one yellow tag and result section is empty. Therefore, it is no way near ready to be posted. I support the Alt Blurb when it is ready to be psoted. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality, but support alt when ready. Gödel2200 ( talk) 13:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose those and any blurb that does not acknowledge the denounces of electoral fraud, which are a relevant news topic in themselves. Cambalachero ( talk) 15:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support once the article is well ready and meets quality standards. -- cyrfaw ( talk) 17:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Are we sure this is WP:ITN/R? There was no change in administration. Staraction ( talk | contribs) 19:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    This falls under "The results of general elections in: All states on the list of sovereign states". Howard the Duck ( talk) 19:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Actually, elections for the executive where there is no change in office are now also ITNR, per this discussion. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose There are multiple orange tags, and the endorsements section is missing a lot of citations. Will support the alt when ready. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait The National Electoral Council (Venezuela) has been offline and/or has a DNS problem since at least the last day or so, although some archived snapshots e.g. 28 July are available. As of the 2010s and 2020s, the electoral results coordinated by any national election commission, except for the internet-poorest countries, are normally published in full detail on the commission's website. Whether the reason for the website non-availability is attacks such as DDOS or tech incompetence or a desire to hide the results, the fact is that by the current standards of a national election, the results in the sense of open data are not yet published. There is currently only a "believe-us" XXth century style "result" announced by the CNE so far. The heads of many American states, such as Gabriel Boric, are putting pressure on the CNE to get the full results published. Waiting for a more serious release of the full results would make sense. Boud ( talk) 21:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait Along the lines of what Boud said, in lay terms, the election result hasn't actually been called, Maduro has just said he's won. The opposition has not conceded, there are no results to show (some apparently have fully gone missing) - the last update from even Maduro's own commission is that vote counts will be coming soon. Kingsif ( talk) 21:12, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose For now, as the results themselves are still unavailable in the article. Granted, the results aren't gonna be super shocking. Dyaquna ( talk) 22:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Reliable sources are essentially unanimous in describing the election as neither free or fair. Therefore, Maduro being declared the winner is about as surprising as "water is wet". KlayCax ( talk) 00:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait There should be something, however it ought to mention the dispute. This is major news.
Metallurgist ( talk) 01:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Update of blurb needed: While waiting for the CNE to announce the full results, the 2024 Venezuelan protests (probably not the best name, since there were probably other protests in Venezuela in 2024) are already 11 kb of source text just 5 hours after being created, so should be integrated into the blurb. Things could change fast depending on if/when the CNE publishes the full results or continues to refuse to publish them, so further updates might be needed. Boud ( talk) 01:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    • I agree, and had actually just come here to suggest much the same. — Cryptic 01:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    Suggest nominating the protests as their own blurb. If the photo can be confirmed as free, it's also really good to go in the box. Kingsif ( talk) 02:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose because the election is dispute, protests are ongoing, and there are multiple orange tags. JohnAdams1800 ( talk) 02:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose unless the blurb states clearly that it was rigged and that it sparked massive protests. Plus, the article has certain problems. If these are solved, take this one as a support. -- Bedivere ( talk) 06:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb2. That thing with words like "announced" or "declared" in dubious elections simply doesn't work, and I don't think our readers get the difference that a group of editors here wants to convey. Simply use "re-elected" and let the readers visit the article to find out the details. All winners are "announced" or "declared" no matter if the election was free and fair.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 08:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    Most readers don't click through to the article. The main page gets about 5 million views daily but the number of readers that click though ITN links is only about 10K -- a tiny fraction. So, most readers will glance at or skim the main page and will just see the headline and the grinning picture of the tyrant/dictator/president-for-life. So, we should make the headline plain and clear if we run one because that's all most readers will see. Andrew🐉( talk) 09:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    Why do you think that "announced" or "declared" makes it clear that the winner is a dictator or that the election was not free and fair? Why not extend the blurb to say that "X was re-elected in a dubious election"?-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 09:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    The result is disputed; for example, see Venezuelan opposition says it has proof its candidate defeated President Maduro in disputed election. In such circumstances of claim and counter-claim, it's not our job to pick a winner. All we might say currently is that there is unrest following a disputed election. Andrew🐉( talk) 10:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    I agree that the protests should be the main story now. My point was that the words "announced" or "declared" wouldn't make any difference. If we post that Maduro was "announced winner", we practically accept the announcement of the National Electoral Council, so we practically side with them and pick Maduro as winner. Note that the opposition rejects outright what the National Electoral Council announced as a result of the election.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 14:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Comment. Since the focus is now on protests, I suggest alternative blurb:
After disputed presidential elections, protests erupt in Venezuela. BilboBeggins ( talk) 12:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
This is a good blurb, but the article quality for the protests is not there yet. Gödel2200 ( talk) 13:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
The sources do not currently show which is more notable: the election or the protests, so putting both in bold would be better justified. Boud ( talk) 13:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
I agree with this, but both articles currently are not of sufficient quality. So if one is improved before the other, we could just make that the target to start out. Gödel2200 ( talk) 14:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Well referenced and article fixed now. MAL MALDIVE ( talk) 14:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb3 Article infobox makes no claim of a winner, lede claims both are self-proclaimed winners. Peter Njeim ( talk) 17:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb3 so a NPOV stance is mantained and the disputed nature of the election is highlighted. CVDX ( talk) 22:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose altblurb3, we didn't say that when Trump claimed fraud, or put that into the same blurb. Wait for the protests to unfold further as they CLEARLY have been planned well before the elections took place. And, the article for the protests largely covers only one side. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 12:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    • ALT3 does not take a side on the fraud controversy, only points that they are disputed presidential elections... which they are, and it doesn't take a POV to say so Cambalachero ( talk) 15:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    The Carter Center is convincing:
    • "Carter Center Statement on Venezuela Election" (Press release). Carter Center. 30 July 2024. Retrieved 31 July 2024.
    and the OAS will speak today. Blurb III is best (but both of the Venezuelan articles are in much worse shape than indicted by the tags still on them -- it's very hard to even document all of the cleanup still needed). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    • And this:
      • Applebaum, Anne (31 July 2024). "Venezuela's Dictator Can't Even Lie Well". The Atlantic. Retrieved 31 July 2024. In the hours after the polls closed, much of the international media had refrained from stating the obvious. 'BREAKING:,' the Associated Press tweeted on Monday. 'Venezuela's President Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner in the presidential election amid opposition claims of irregularities.' But by Tuesday morning, it was absolutely clear that the election was not merely irregular or tainted or disputed: The election had been stolen.
      SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
      We are in a new cold war, and as per Coffeeandcrumbs, the mainstream media of one side will all portray the conflict in a certain way.
      See these two articles from an left-wing American media organisation:
      • Macleod, Alan (30 July 2024). "Venezuela: While US politicians call fraud, American election observers endorse results". Mintpress News. Retrieved 31 July 2024. I spoke to a person who is voting against Maduro, a professional who studied psychology in San Francisco. She was hopeful for change. But what was very significant was that she thought that the electoral process is free and fair. Overall, our impression of going to the various polling places was that people were very welcoming to us international observers, and were very proud to be out there voting for their country."

        "People are happy and welcoming tons of foreigners to look and see what they are doing and explain it patiently, with confidence and real enthusiasm for democracy. Actually, I think that one of the reasons that there is so much cynicism in the United States about democracy is that people don't trust the system. And here, part of their enthusiasm is that they have a lot of confidence in their system, that their voice will be heard".

      • Macleod, Alan (30 July 2024). "Solidarity from Palestine to Venezuela: Meet the Palestinians observing Venezuela's elections". Mintpress News. Retrieved 31 July 2024. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 03:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
      You should consider installing the unreliable source detector, as it instantly flagged your links as unreliable because Mintpress News is known to publish fabricated information regularly. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 04:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
      Well, Mintpress published two articles on their blacklisting on Wikipedia. They and another major leftist news outlet TeleSUR, were blacklisted in 2019-2020 the context of the 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis. You can read the article if you are curious:
      First of all, if anything, Wikipedia has a slight pro-left bias (like much of the internet). Second of all, it does not matter if they are a "leftist" news outlet. It matters if they are reliable or not. And the consensus on Wikipedia is that they are unreliable because they have been shown (with proof) to have routinely published fabricated information. Regardless, that is not even a discussion that needs to be had here - you can review the reasons the community decided it is so unreliable as to deserve deprecation at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 268 § RfC: MintPress News if you so wish. If you continue to act that source needs to be considered for anything, much less an irrelevant policy violating commentary about whether the protests are "legitimate" or not, it is not likely to bode well for your continued participation in the topic area/Wikipedia as a whole. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    May I ask who planned the protests? Because they occured suddenly, opposition figures didn't ask for protests, they asked only for verified ballots to make the result of election transparent, because they know what are consequences for them. BilboBeggins ( talk) 20:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Here it is:
    The defendant providing this statement is enough to cast doubt on that the protests weren't pre-planned from the outside. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 03:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    So, in one word... WP:FRINGE. Cambalachero ( talk) 04:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    But the tweet itself and attached to the tweet is an official communique from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Venezuela. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 04:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    You mean the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that's run by and subject to the whims of Maduro himself? Of course Maduro is going to try to delegitimize the protests regarding his attempt to falsify election results. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment IMO, I think the only thing in the way of this being posted is the flagrant political bias in both articles. I think I would like to work on this ^ - ^ -- Viva Nicolás ( talk) 04:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    Maybe, if this has to be posted within a specified timeframe, I would support altblurb4 on the nomination on July 30. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 05:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    I've added alt4 from that nomination into this nomination. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 05:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    And remember when the 2019 Bolivian general election was overturned by protests when the opposition alleged they were rigged, but the 2020 Bolivian general election run under the coup regime definitively showed otherwise. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 06:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    The election article can be formatted like the 2019 Bolivian general election article, while the protests article can be formatted like the 2019 Bolivian protests article. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 06:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

July 28

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Alma Powell

Article:  Alma Powell ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American audiologist. 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF ( talk) 06:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Francine Pascal

Article:  Francine Pascal ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): People, New York Times
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American author and creator of Sweet Valley High series. 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF ( talk) 06:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose Article is orange tagged for expansion and is a bit short. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 11:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment I've expanded the article out a bit; I don't think there are any unsourced statements anymore, but it's definitely still on the shorter side. I would add that the "sources" section, which seems to awkwardly combine a bibliography and a reference list, does not seem appropriate for the article in its current form and the bibliography side of it is basically unsourced, as it has no ISBNs or anything of the like.-- Sunshineisles2 ( talk) 14:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Doug Creek

Article:  Doug Creek ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American baseball player. 240F:7A:6253:1:7072:B26A:4473:10DD ( talk) 06:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article has only three sources, needs more citations. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:16, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Reyes Moronta

Article:  Reyes Moronta ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

–  Muboshgu ( talk) 04:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final

Article:  2024 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Gaelic football, the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship concludes with Armagh defeating Galway in the final. ( Post)
News source(s): (The Irish Times)
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Goevenonme ( talk) 00:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support - Well-written and in-depth article, don’t see any issues. The Kip ( contribs) 03:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Support article looks good enough to be posted. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - good article, significant sporting event.

IrishRealistic ( talk) 18:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support The article has a good amount of prose about the final. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted. Black Kite (talk) 08:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: John Anderson

Article:  John Anderson (television personality) ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

UK Gladiators referee and British Olympic coach. The C of E God Save the King! ( talk) 21:32, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Support meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak support DoB is cn tagged and also the infobox includes his spouses but it isn't anywhere in the prose nor is it sourced, so that info should be added to prose and sourced or excised from the infobox. Otherwise article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 16:51, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    Cited DOB and birthplace. Curbon7 ( talk) 01:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Prince Michael of Greece and Denmark

Article:  Prince Michael of Greece and Denmark ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Sky News, The Independent, and others.
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

He was a member of the former Greek royal family, a writer, a historian, a first cousin of Prince Philip and the last surviving great-grandson of Christian IX. - Therealscorp1an ( talk) 22:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Wait List of works section needs more sources. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

July 27

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

  • Eight people are killed and five others are injured when a vehicle hits pedestrians in Changsha, Hunan, China. The perpetrator is arrested. (AP)

Sports


(Posted) RD: Murray Costello

Article:  Murray Costello ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Hockey Canada NHL.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Canadian ice hockey player, executive, and administrator. Article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 17:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support, article is good quality
Personisinsterest ( talk) 15:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Edna O'Brien

Proposed image
Article:  Edna O'Brien ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Appears to be well-sourced. Mooonswimmer 18:34, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Ready it is of great quality, marking it ready. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Most of the photos that you mentioned were for political leaders where the nomination fell under ITNR (though the ones for Biden and Trump were not), so it is not at all surprising that they were featured. And all of them were for blurbs, so by virtue of them being blurbed, of course their picture will be featured. Unless you can show that female leaders are being deliberately left out of ITN, the claim that this has anything to do with systemic bias is completely unfounded. Gödel2200 ( talk) 17:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Majdal Shams attack

Article:  Majdal Shams attack ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A rocket attack allegedly launched by Hezbollah on the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights kills at least 14 civilians. ( Post)
News source(s): BBC Times of Israel Hindustan Times Press TV Iran Reuters Russia Today Al Jazeera
Credits:

Article updated

Current official death toll is at 12 as of time of writing. Although the scale of this attack is dwarfed daily by IDF bombardments of Gaza, I propose that we cover this particular story because:

  • It is the single deadliest attack on Israeli civilians since October 7. [8]
  • It is the single deadliest spillover incident of the war since inception.
  • The attack was carried out in the context of a conflict with Hezbollah, which would make it separate from the Israel-Gaza war itself.
  • Attacks by other regional entities (Iran, the Houthis, and Hezbollah itself) have not previously resulted in this number of casualties during the conflict.
  • The article is expanded, well-written, and of a suitable length, with no citation needed tags.

For the above reasons, I hereby nominate this entry.

  • Support as nom. 104.171.53.110 ( talk) 08:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. This is covered by ongoing, or should be, because it’s part of a wave of attacks against Israel by Iranian proxies, and the ensuing counterattacks by Israel. Jehochman Talk 09:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose, covered by ongoing as direct spillover of the war. Also, if we specifically post attacks killing Israeli civilians but not those killing Palestinian civilians, we'll be having a pretty big NPOV issue on the main page. Chaotic Enby ( talk · contribs) 10:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Wait - Posting this may be a problem as pointed out above, as it naturally invites comparisons to civilian casualties in Gaza (though this could be considered more notable as there are less Israeli civilian deaths, it's still a POV problem). I think it's best to wait to see what the Israeli response is; if this escalates the conflict with Hezbollah it's definitely enough to post, but until then Oppose PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 12:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose This is covered by ongoing unless Israel responds in a major way. Gödel2200 ( talk) 13:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Not really. If it were a strike by the Palestinians, sure, but this was a strike by Hezbollah. This incident falls under the Israel-Hezbollah war, which is not in the Ongoing section. Bremps ... 16:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above (covered in ongoing), but particularly in light of what Chaotic Enby has said about the neutrality here. -- Masem ( t) 13:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose as covered by the war, but also recommend speedy close due to WP:ECR. IPs aren’t allowed to nominate things like this. The Kip ( contribs) 16:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    @ ScottishFinnishRadish, pinging for your opinion re: ECR closing here. The Kip ( contribs) 22:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Yeah, this isn't an edit request, it's a submission to an internal process. At this point we're past closing, though. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 23:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • In general I would support this, along with routine killings of civilians in Gaza. Both are significant and should be posted whether or not we have the ongoing Israel-Hamas war. VR (Please ping on reply) 20:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose covered by ongoing. Also, Victims section is sort of unorthodox on Wikipedia and I think fails WP:MOS. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Wolfgang Rihm

Article:  Wolfgang Rihm ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Yahoo
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs work, maybe the "works" section could be split out? Natg 19 ( talk) 23:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done Grimes2 ( talk) 08:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • No, we don't move content out so that it doesn't have to be referenced. Step hen 11:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    But the reference to the publisher of Rihm's works includes the works. Grimes2 ( talk) 12:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Bibliographies, lists of compositions, albums, etc. are common in biography articles. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 17:06, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Whoops, I didn't realize that there was a reference at first. But either way, the article looks cleaner with it moved out, as the list of 500 works does make the article unwieldy. Natg 19 ( talk) 17:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Yeah, that's an appropriate WP:WHENSPLIT. Ed  [talk]  [OMT] 03:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Article ok and well sourced. Grimes2 ( talk) 14:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 16:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: I just started updating, and am too tired for more today. Had to work on last-minute violinist who needs attention today, look for Dahn who updated. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support, nice work you two. I'm considering trying to take this article to GA over the next few weeks... although many of the many bios are hard to access, it seems. – Aza24 (talk) 01:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted. -- PFHLai ( talk) 12:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

July 26

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Sports


RD: Lionel Elika Fatupaito

Article:  Lionel Elika Fatupaito ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): New York Post, New Strait Times, CBS News, ESPN, Daily Mail, The New York Times, The Independent, The Times of India
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
  • Oppose - article created today, and as I cannot find any sourcing on him apart from the reports of his death, I have sent the article to AfD. Black Kite (talk) 14:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Janet Andrewartha

Article:  Janet Andrewartha ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [9], [10]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

  Happily888 ( talk) 07:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose Filmography is mostly unsourced, and the source for the stage section doesn't cover everything listed there. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 20:52, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose unsourced Filmography. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 France railway arson attacks

Article:  2024 France railway arson attacks ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A series of arson attacks damages several lines of the French high-speed railway system. ( Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

pbp 20:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Support - I think it's best to have this as a separate blurb as the attacks haven't been linked to the Olympics (though they likely were related). In the news PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 21:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality - nowhere near long enough, and half the content are reactions that either can be better integrated into a response (eg the transportation head talking about delays) or are just "hopes and prayers"-type nonsense we shouldn't include. -- Masem ( t) 21:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose independently, neutral combined — No fatal consequences, though this is clearly significant. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:08, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support notable terrorist (?) attack This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 22:09, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose as these attacks only damaged several lines of the railway system without any casualties or severe disruptions. I'm strongly against combining this with the opening ceremony as it had low impact on that event.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 22:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Kiril. Article is also quite short. The Kip ( contribs) 22:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    For those of you, such as @ Masem saying "but the article is short"...is it complete though? pbp 23:17, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    If the article is complete in its current state, then it simply isn't enough for the front page. The Kip ( contribs) 23:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    To me, it looks comparable to the example new article shown at WP:ITNUPDATE, or at worst very close to enough. — Cryptic 00:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    That incident also killed almost 20 people, and injured over 70. Not sure if it’d get posted today anyways - keep in mind standards were a bit more lax a decade ago. The Kip ( contribs) 02:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    I'd thought it was an article quality argument I was countering. I agree there's a wider difference in significance. — Cryptic 19:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Notable-ish but no one was killed or injured and I don't think it's significant enough to be posted
Personisinsterest ( talk) 22:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. There is no reason to be linking to a useless, poorly written article about a few arsons when we have an actual article about the transportation that needs to be expanded. The whole point of Wikipedia is to provide summarized information in context, not to rewrite blow-by-blow accounts of each random thing separately every time you refresh the website of the New York Times. Will switch to support if this is redone as an update to Wikipedia content to reflect current events as ITN posts are supposed to be. And as a side note, it would be great if the closer could disregard any !votes about casualties since that's not a metric of significance on Wikipedia. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 23:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    If we're talking disregarding votes, maybe yours should be disregarded because you're using it as a soapbox to complain about the condition of a different article pbp 03:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    Then you may wish to reread what I said. The only time I mentioned another article was when I suggested a merge target for this one. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 04:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    This is not some random accident like a landslide in the boondocks. It's multiple synchronised attacks targeting significant infrastructure of a major nation. It is thus comparable with the attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines or the 9-11 attacks in the US. It seems to have been scheduled for the start of the Olympics but its impact goes beyond that as this is the start of the French holiday season when much of the country plans to travel. Andrew🐉( talk) 07:52, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
It is thus comparable with the attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines or the 9-11 attacks in the US. What? An attack with no casualties is comparable to an attack with thousands of casualties that led to the War on terror? Gödel2200 ( talk) 12:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
If you're referring to Ethiopia when you say "the boondocks", that doesn't make what's happening there insignificant Dyaquna ( talk) 15:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
The point is that the sabotage was not a "random thing" or Act of God. It was a coordinated attack in multiple locations. As these things go, it's quite unusual for there to be a synchronised attack in so many locations. 9-11 targeted three locations while this attack targeted five. Andrew🐉( talk) 07:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support halting services for over 800K people feels quite notable to me. This is quite a large attack, regardless of the lack of casualties. I understand the Crowdstrike incident is on a way grander scale than this will ever be, but as it is still an event that caused a halting on travel systems, we didn't stop that from being posted from a lack of deaths or injuries. Captain Galaxy 23:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose The attack has no casualties, and the article does not indicate that the impact is incredibly severe. In fact, the only 'impact' listed in the impact section was the British PM having to change his plans. Also the article is barely more than a stub. Gödel2200 ( talk) 23:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support It's a common lead headline today: "Olympics sabotaged ... Hunt for Olympic saboteurs ... Far Left suspected ...". The disruption will continue throughout the weekend and its impact is countrywide -- much greater than some single accident such as the plane crash in Nepal. Andrew🐉( talk) 07:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Per Andrew and CaptainGalaxy. Centuries123 ( talk) 10:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Notable for sure, picked up a lot of coverage initially but doesn't rise to meet many of the secondary principles listed in WP:ITNSIGNIF in my opinion. Kcmastrpc ( talk) 12:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per above. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:27, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per previous comments on article quality Schwinnspeed ( talk) 02:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Olympic Opening Ceremony

Article:  2024 Summer Olympics ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Paris, the opening ceremony of the 2024 Summer Olympics begins. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open after an arson attack on French railways.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open.
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Opening ceremony isn't technically done yet, but I figure it's better to get a little ahead now that it's well underway. DecafPotato ( talk) 18:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Support but wait. This is certainly a event to report on, but we should wait until the grammatical errors get resolved. MetaTalks ( talk) 20:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
its technically "open" after Macron declared it open. MetaTalks ( talk) 21:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Support, notable and the articles are fine Personisinsterest ( talk) 22:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Support alternate blurb, if the arson attacks were connected to the Olympics Dyaquna ( talk) 23:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I just skimmed a bit of the article and it was nowhere near ready as I immediately noticed several tense and grammatical errors. The article seems to be full of plans which may or may not have actually gone to schedule and it has no reaction or reception section to provide an assessment of what actually happened. Also, as noted below, the news coverage today has focussed on security and sabotage issues such as 2024 France railway arson attack and that seems more interesting. The appalling weather might warrant some attention though. For example,

    Unfortunate that the pre filmed parts of this ceremony were done on a bright, clear day. It is making the jumps from live to video sections jarring in person and presumably on TV too. Rain hammering down now. Worried about the athletes! Three hours of this on a roofless boat and some of them are sleeveless. Going to be a shame to cancel the 100m final because the field was decimated by an outbreak of the sniffles.

I'm still watching and was quite curious about the way they presented "Imagine". I find that we have a remarkably detailed article about piano burning and didn't realise that was a thing. Was that supposed to be the Olympic flame?
And now there's a ghostly horse rider. Curiouser and curiouser... Andrew🐉( talk) 18:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I agree with Andrew that to post this without noting the arson attack just prior would be a problem. But that can be fixed in the blurb. However, the opening ceremony article is nowhere close for what we've seen in the past. If we are going to post that arson article, that also needs expansion. Finally, should the quality improvements delay posting the opening ceremony for some time, we still try to go ahead and post the Olympics to ongoing, along with Chronological summary of the 2024 Summer Olympics, but that latter article is mostly unsourced at this point, which is not good either. -- Masem ( t) 18:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    @ Masem and @ Andrew Davidson, I've added an alt blurb unbolding the opening ceremony article and adding the arson attack, would that be better? DecafPotato ( talk) 19:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    No, the event isn't over yet, we've yet to get the reactions and full news coverage and so it's too soon to finalise a blurb. And my objection was to the quality of the article not the blurb. The nominator hasn't made a single edit to the nominated article and so should be disqualified for a false start. Andrew🐉( talk) 19:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • I'm rather neutral on whether or not the arson needs to be included in the blurb- it's not as if this was a terrorist attack that led to deaths- but either way, the article is in pretty bad shape and is nowhere near ready to be posted. -- Kicking222 ( talk) 19:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose mentioning the arson. The connection to the Games seems dubious at best. DarkSide830 ( talk) 19:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support and altblurb2 - proposed new blurb without the arson attack, and without bolding the opening ceremony. This post should be about the start of the Paris Olympics. They've started now. Let's post. Main article is fine. The opening ceremony article can be filled up separately, but is not crucial - nobody participates in the Olympics just for the opening ceremony. Khuft ( talk) 20:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support alt2 Oppose placing the arson attack in the blurb, as it does not seem to have had any effects on the opening ceremony. Currently the article for the opening ceremony has major sourcing issues, but we can instead link to the overall article for the olympics. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support in principle, but oppose including the arson attacks in the blurb. The opening ceremony took place without any disruptions caused by those attacks (the rain made bigger problems than the attacks). That event should’ve been relevant had it directly affected this one, which is clearly not the case.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 21:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ALT2 but oppose on quality. I don't personally believe the arson attacks to be overly significant, and their effects on the games has been minimal outside of transportation delays. All of the said, the Opening Ceremony article is in brutal shape - multiple orange tags and nowhere near enough prose on the events. The Kip ( contribs) 22:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ALT2 and put it in ongoing when it reaches the bottom. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 02:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • There are quite a few sections of tables that lack a single reference. Step hen 03:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    • I did actually look at this but saw that there are one or more references for those tables in the prose ahead of them (like with the venue section). It would be better if those sources could be repeated in the table header or otherwise some position closer to the tables to be clear where the info is coming from, but the sourcing is there. —  Masem ( t) 12:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Alt3 Opening article has too many problems so let's just not post it. Kcmastrpc ( talk) 12:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality issues (notwithstanding ITNR). Too many CN tags on it. The C of E God Save the King! ( talk) 12:53, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • support it is hugely IN THE NEWS. not to mention the controversy over the transgender stuff, but that's an aside. then the chronology can be in the ongoing. Sportsnut24 ( talk) 20:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Support, we've listed the Olympics and world cup several times in the past and there's plenty of coverage of it. No reason not to list it Desfuria ( talk) 23:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • I will note that I have already added the Olympics as an ongoing on a temporary basis (as that article is fine, see the ongoing nom below) while there's still debate on the blurb and the quality of the opening ceremonies (which has always been posted in the past, and has always been of high quality, I don't know why this is not at that point by this case). Should we post a blurb, then the ongoing should be temporarily removed then. -- Masem ( t) 23:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Question What needs doing at 2024 Summer Olympics opening ceremony to make it post-able? Kingsif ( talk) 03:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
The orange tags need to get resolved. Many statements and sections are missing sources. Natg 19 ( talk) 03:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
It pains me to say but Oppose. It should be ready by now, but surprisingly isn't. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:28, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Altblurb3 - let's not mention the Opening Ceremony then As it seems we won't be able to solve the issues with the opening ceremony article before this gets stale (and, let's face it, it's Monday now - the opening ceremony was on Friday), why not post just the Summer Olympics article itself? That one seems fine, as it's already featured on Ongoing. Khuft ( talk) 15:36, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose, this should've been posted but its too late now Personisinsterest ( talk) 15:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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Article:  Vikramabahu Karunaratne ( talk · history · tag)
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Sri Lankan politician, activist and scientist. Titanciwiki talk/ contrib 0:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose Some statements in the article lacking a source, also the infobox has the name of his father and mother but it isn't anywhere in the prose. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 20:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per MonarchOfTerror. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Martin Indyk

Article:  Martin Indyk ( talk · history · tag)
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Oppose three cn tags. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

pertinent to the ongoing news stuff. i dunno if you mention that on these things. Sportsnut24 ( talk) 20:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I'd be happy to give a few pointers if you clarify what it is you're confused about. Bremps ... 16:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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1295 depiction of Alice arriving at Acre

Alice of Champagne ( c. 1193 – 1246) was the eldest daughter of Queen Isabella I of Jerusalem and Count Henry II of Champagne. In 1210, Alice married her stepbrother King Hugh I of Cyprus, receiving the County of Jaffa as dowry. After her husband's death in 1218, she assumed the regency for their infant son, King Henry I. Her attempts to bolster her claim to Champagne and Brie in France failed. Due to a debate with her uncle Philip of Ibelin, she left Cyprus in 1223. In exile, she married Bohemond, the heir apparent to the Principality of Antioch and the County of Tripoli, but their marriage was annulled. In 1229, she unsuccessfully laid claim to the Kingdom of Jerusalem against the absent Conrad II. In 1240, she married Raoul of Nesle and the High Court of Jerusalem proclaimed them regents for Conrad in 1243, although their power was nominal. Raoul left the kingdom, and Alice, before the end of the year. Alice retained the regency until her death in 1246. ( Full article...)

Existential quantifier, used in logic to express existence
Existential quantifier, used in logic to express existence

Existence is the state of having being or reality. It is often contrasted with essence, since one can understand the essential features of something without knowing whether it exists. Ontology studies existence and differentiates between singular existence of individual entities and general existence of concepts or universals. Entities present in space and time have concrete existence, in contrast to abstract entities, like numbers and sets. Other distinctions are between possible, contingent, and necessary existence and between physical and mental existence. Some philosophers talk of degrees of existence but the more common view is that an entity either exists or not, with no intermediary states. It is controversial whether existence can be understood as a property of individual objects and, if so, whether there are nonexistent objects. The concept of existence has a long history and played a role in the ancient period in pre-Socratic, Hindu, Buddhist, and Daoist philosophy. ( Full article...)

Original premises of Blackrocks
Original premises of Blackrocks

Blackrocks Brewery is a craft brewery in Marquette, Michigan. Taking the name from a local landmark, former pharmaceutical salesmen David Manson and Andy Langlois opened Blackrocks in 2010. They originally brewed their products in the basement of a Victorian-style house (pictured), and the building's two other floors were used as a taproom. By 2013, persistent high demand for Blackrocks' beer led Manson and Langlois to expand their brewing capacity, including the purchase and conversion of a former Coca-Cola bottling plant. In the early 2020s, they expanded Blackrocks' taproom into an adjacent property, which doubled its available indoor area. Blackrocks produced 12,687 barrels of beer in 2023, up about 11 percent from the year prior, and they are the largest craft brewery in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Their most popular beer is 51K, an American IPA named for a local ski marathon. ( Full article...)

Albert Stanley, 1st Baron Ashfield

Albert Stanley, 1st Baron Ashfield (8 August 1874 – 4 November 1948), was the managing director and chairman of the Underground Electric Railways Company of London (UERL) from 1910 to 1933, and the chairman of the London Passenger Transport Board (LPTB) from 1933 to 1947. At a young age, he held senior positions in the tramway systems of Detroit and New Jersey. In 1907 he was recruited by the UERL, where he integrated the company's management and used advertising and public relations to improve profits. As managing director of the UERL from 1910, he led the take-over of competing companies and operations to form Combine, an integrated transport operation. He was Member of Parliament for Ashton-under-Lyne from 1916 to 1920 and President of the Board of Trade between 1916 and 1919. He returned to the UERL and then chaired it and its successor the LPTB during the organisation's greatest period of expansion between the two world wars, making it an exemplar of the best form of public administration. ( Full article...)

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Sedum acre

Sedum acre, commonly known as the biting stonecrop, is a perennial flowering plant in the family Crassulaceae. It is native to Europe, North Africa and parts of Asia, and is naturalised in other places such as North America and New Zealand. It is a low-growing plant which is adapted for growth on thin dry soils, being found on terrain including dry grassland, beaches, drystone walls and roadside verges. The plant forms mat-like stands up to 12 centimetres (5 inches) tall. For most of the year the stems are short with dense leaf coverage, but during the flowering season in June and July, the stems lengthen and become erect. This S. acre plant with a length of 3.5 centimetres (1.4 inches) was photographed in Niitvälja, Estonia.

Photograph credit: Ivar Leidus




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Summary chart

Currently accepting requests from October 1 to October 31.

Date Article Notes Supports Opposes
Nonspecific 1 BAE Systems 1 0
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October 1 The Founding Ceremony of the Nation 75th anniversary of event depicted 3 0
October 9 The Birds (Alexander McQueen collection) 30th anniversary of collection at runway 1 1
October 21 Takin' It Back 2nd anniversary of release 1 0
October 22 The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes 3rd anniversary of release/editor's first FA/TFA nom 1 0
October 22 Red (Taylor Swift album) 12th anniversary of release 1 0
October 23 Wells Cathedral 785th anniversary of consecration. TFA re-run 1 0
October 29 1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game 103rd anniversary of the game 2 0

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Nonspecific date nominations

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BAE Systems

BAE Systems has offices in the Farnborough Aerospace Centre business park.
BAE Systems has offices in the Farnborough Aerospace Centre business park.

BAE Systems is a British multinational aerospace, defence and information security company, based in London, England. It is the largest defence contractor in Europe and the seventh-largest in the world. Its largest operations are in the United Kingdom and in the United States, where it is one of the six largest suppliers to the US Department of Defense. Other major markets include Saudi Arabia, Australia, Canada, Japan, India and Turkey. The company was formed in 1999 by the merger of Marconi Electronic Systems with the defence arm of the General Electric Company and British Aerospace. BAE has made a number of acquisitions, most notably of United Defense and Armor Holdings and has sold its shares in Airbus. It is involved in several major defence projects, including the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, the Eurofighter Typhoon, and the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers. ( Full article...)

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Specific date nominations

October 1

The Founding Ceremony of the Nation

Tourists take photographs of the painting
Tourists take photographs of the painting

The Founding Ceremony of the Nation is a 1953 oil painting by Chinese artist Dong Xiwen. It depicts Mao Zedong and other Communist officials inaugurating the People's Republic of China at Tiananmen Square on October 1, 1949. A prominent example of socialist realism, it is one of the most celebrated works of official Chinese art. After the Communists took control of China, they sought to memorialize their success with art. Dong was selected, and completed the painting in three months in a folk art style, drawing on historical Chinese art. The painting's success was assured when Mao viewed it and liked it, and it was widely reproduced for home display. Dong was ordered to remove Gao Gang from the painting in 1954 and Liu Shaoqi in 1967, after government purges. In 1972 a copy was made by other artists to accommodate another deletion. After the purged officials were rehabilitated, the replica was modified in 1979 to include them. Both canvases are in the National Museum of China in Beijing. ( Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): Empire of the Sultans was last art, on July 23
  • Main editors: Wehwalt
  • Promoted: 2017
  • Reasons for nomination: 75th anniversary of the event depicted in the painting. Also the 75th anniversary of the People's Republic of China. Rerun of October 1, 2017
  • Support as nominator. Wehwalt ( talk) 00:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
For the image, you can crop the original file to zoom in on the actual painting. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 03:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The painting is within copyright. Showing it this way, with tourists taking photos of it and a small portion obscured, is at least defensibly not a derivative work.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 12:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The painting on exhibit with artifacts of the October 1, 1949 ceremony
Another possibility is at right, the other canvas. It's harder to tell what it is though.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 12:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Oh wow, I would have just assumed that a public work in the 50's commissioned by the CCP would be public domain by now. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 19:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
No, it's a URAA matter. Dong has now been dead 50 years and the copyright has expired in China, but that was not true on the URAA restoration date of 1 January 1996 for China. Therefore, the copyright in the US will not expire until 95 years after publication, which was probably sometime in the mid-1950s, depending on when they first printed it in a publication or reproduced it for sale.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 19:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Support 750 h+ 03:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Support joeyquism ( talk) 23:53, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

October 9

The Birds (Alexander McQueen collection)

Jacket from the collection
Jacket from the collection

The Birds is the fifth collection by Alexander McQueen for his fashion house. It was inspired by ornithology and the Alfred Hitchcock film The Birds, for which it was named. The collection centred around sharply tailored garments and emphasised female sexuality. The runway show was staged on 9 October 1994 and the venue was a warehouse in the London district of King's Cross. The Birds was styled with imagery of violence and death; some models were covered in tyre tracks and others wore white contact lenses. Reception was generally positive, although the styling drew accusations of misogyny. The show's success allowed McQueen to secure the financial backing to stage his next show, Highland Rape. Garments from The Birds appeared in both stagings of the retrospective exhibition Alexander McQueen: Savage Beauty. Seán McGirr heavily referenced The Birds for Autumn/Winter 2024, his debut collection as creative director for the Alexander McQueen brand. ( Full article...)

@ Joeyquism: Just noting that I am not the original FAC nominator. Instead, I often suggest articles at TFA to run on specific dates meaningful to the article. I'm fine with waiting if that is what the community wants. Z1720 ( talk) 20:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
@ Z1720: Thank you for the clarification! I was aware of the authorship discrepancy, but I just wanted to get my two cents in over here where the coordinators can see more easily. joeyquism ( talk) 20:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Excessive amount of Alexander McQueen fashion collections on TFA. These should be spaced out much more apart. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 06:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Seriously concerned with the direction we are heading in and the rhetoric coming out of users with zero FAs to their name.-- N Ø 07:28, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • support: agree with MaranoFan - PMC's work on these articles is admirable. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 22:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

October 21

Takin' It Back

Meghan Trainor
Meghan Trainor

Takin' It Back is the fifth major-label studio album by American singer-songwriter Meghan Trainor. Epic Records released it on October 21, 2022. Trainor worked with producers including Federico Vindver and Gian Stone, and featured artists like Teddy Swims and Natti Natasha. Takin' It Back is a doo-wop and bubblegum pop album about motherhood and self-acceptance, which Trainor conceived as a return to the sound of her album Title (2015) after its title track went viral on TikTok. Trainor promoted the former with televised performances and two singles, " Bad for Me" and " Made You Look". The latter peaked at number 11 in the US, and reached the top 10 in several other countries. Reviewers thought Takin' It Back showcased Trainor's maturity, growth, and musicality, but they were divided on whether it was a progression from her earlier work. The album debuted at number 16 on the US Billboard 200. Its deluxe edition was supported by the single " Mother". ( This article is part of two featured topics: Takin' It Back and Meghan Trainor albums.) ( Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): Weezer's Pinkerton is scheduled for September 24.
  • Main editors: MaranoFan
  • Promoted: June 11, 2023
  • Reasons for nomination: 2nd anniversary of release. The album shares its release date with Midnights, which I expect to get the date next year, so that is why I am interested in getting it to run this year. It feels fair at a five-month gap from the last Trainor TFA and it is not feasible to space these out by a year.
  • Support as nominator. N Ø 20:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Unfortunate that Red and this album have release anniversaries within 1 day of each other (albeit 10 years apart)! Still going to support as you're both the author and nominator, and of course on the basis that this is a great body of work. Decision of promotion will ultimately be at the discretion of the coordinators, but I thought it'd be worth it to back this regardless. joeyquism ( talk) 20:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Both running would be the best case scenario imo. I figured one of these would not stand a chance if only the other had a proper nomination.-- N Ø
  • Oppose - 2nd Anniversary is nothing special, plus and there's already been two Megan Trainor albums on TFA already this year . Recent pop-culture articles are more likely to have a fanbase to make FA and to get them onto TFA versus older music which might be forgotten. That represents a systematic bias towards recent events and pop-culture, which we should be aware of and try to counter-act by balancing out recent pop-culture against the greater history of pop-culture. Albums should aim for 10th, 20th, 30th, etc anniversaries which also naturally help space articles out and balance them out more. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 06:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • We allow articles to re-run after five years but albums should wait for 10 years to go on the main page for the first time...? There is something wrong with that and it seriously disincentivizes improvement of pop culture content. Should they just never re-run then? Are you going to oppose Pinkerton already scheduled in September, which literally already ran in 2011?-- N Ø 07:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

October 22

Red (Taylor Swift album)

Taylor Swift performing on the Red Tour in 2013
Taylor Swift performing on the Red Tour in 2013

Red is the fourth studio album by the American singer-songwriter Taylor Swift, released on October 22, 2012, by Big Machine Records. Its songs portray the complex and conflicting feelings that result from fading romance, and combines pop, country, and rock, using acoustic instruments alongside synths and drum machines. Red was supported by a world tour, the Red Tour (2013–2014), and seven singles; " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" peaked atop the US Billboard Hot 100, and " I Knew You Were Trouble" reached the top ten in Australasia and Europe. Critics praised Swift's songwriting for its emotional exploration but were divided on the musical styles, with some calling them inconsistent and questioning Swift's identity as a country artist. The album was nominated for Album of the Year and Best Country Album at the 2014 Grammy Awards, and topped the charts in Australasia, Canada, the United Kingdom, and the United States. ( This article is part of a featured topic: Taylor Swift original studio albums.)

The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes

Ashley Tisdale
Ashley Tisdale

The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes is an interactive drama and survival horror video game, developed by Supermassive Games and published by Bandai Namco Entertainment. It is the third game of the first season of The Dark Pictures Anthology and was released on 22 October 2021. Ashley Tisdale (pictured) was marketed as the game's lead. Set during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the plot follows four Americans working for the US Armed Forces and one Iraqi Republican Guard who fall into a subterranean Akkadian temple where they must work together to survive the vampiric creatures that infest the area. The game features two single-player gameplay modes and two that are multiplayer, one which is played online, while the other can be played locally. House of Ashes received mixed reviews from critics upon release. The fourth game in the series, The Devil in Me, was revealed in a teaser trailer at the end of House of Ashes, and released on 18 November 2022. ( Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): Looks like OneShot was the most recent video game article on June 30, 2024.
  • Main editors: PSA and ZooBlazer
  • Promoted: April 2, 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: This was my first FA and would also be my first TFA. The release date was October 22, 2021, so I was hoping to have it run for its anniversary.
  • Support as nominator. -- Zoo Blazer 06:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

October 23

Wells Cathedral 1

West front of Wells Cathedral
West front of Wells Cathedral

Wells Cathedral is an Anglican cathedral in Wells, Somerset, England, dedicated to Andrew the Apostle. It is the seat of the Bishop of Bath and Wells, whose cathedra it holds as mother church of the Diocese of Bath and Wells. Built as a Roman Catholic cathedral from around 1175 to replace an earlier church on the site since 705, it became an Anglican cathedral when Henry VIII split from Rome. Its Gothic architecture is mostly inspired from Early English style of the late 12th to early 13th centuries. The stonework of its pointed arcades and fluted piers bears pronounced mouldings and carved capitals in a foliate, "stiff-leaf" style. The east end retains much ancient stained glass. Unlike many cathedrals of monastic foundation, Wells has many surviving secular buildings linked to its chapter of secular canons, including the Bishop's Palace and the 15th-century residential Vicars' Close. It is a Grade I listed building. ( Full article...)

October 29

1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game

Centre players on their sideline during the game
Centre players on their sideline during the game

The 1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game was a regular-season collegiate American football game played on October 29, 1921, at Harvard Stadium in Boston, Massachusetts. The contest featured the undefeated Centre Praying Colonels, representing Centre College, and the undefeated Harvard Crimson, representing Harvard University. Centre entered the game as heavy underdogs, as Harvard had received 3-to-1 odds to win prior to kickoff. The only score of the game came less than two minutes into the third quarter when Centre quarterback Bo McMillin rushed for a touchdown. The conversion failed but the Colonels' defense held for the remainder of the game, and Centre won the game 6–0. The game is widely viewed as one of the largest upsets in college football history. It is often referred to by the shorthand "C6H0"; this originated shortly after the game when a Centre professor remarked that Harvard had been poisoned by this "impossible" chemical formula. ( Full article...)

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Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock Performance

Living Colour in 1993
Living Colour in 1993

The Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock Performance was an award presented at the Grammy Awards to recording artists for works (songs or albums) containing quality vocal performances in the hard rock genre. The honor was first presented to Living Colour (pictured) at the 32nd Annual Grammy Awards (1990) for the song " Cult of Personality". The bands Foo Fighters, Living Colour, and the Smashing Pumpkins share the record for the most wins, with two each. Alice in Chains holds the record for the most nominations without a win, with eight. ( Full list...)

Thanks for your consideration! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Basshunter discography

Basshunter, a Swedish singer, record producer and DJ, has released five studio albums, two compilation albums, 30 singles, five promotional singles and seven remixes. The Bassmachine, Basshunter's debut studio album, was released by Alex Music on 25 August 2004. In April 2006, he signed his first contract with Extensive Music and Warner Music Sweden. His single " Boten Anna" charted at number one on the Danish singles chart, where it stayed for fourteen weeks; it was certified triple platinum by IFPI Danmark. "Boten Anna" also reached number one in the Swedish singles chart and was certified platinum by IFPI Sverige. His second studio album LOL, released on 28 August 2006, charted in the top five in Sweden, Denmark and Finland. The album was certified platinum by IFPI Finland and double platinum by IFPI Danmark. In late 2006, Basshunter released his albums The Bassmachine and The Old Shit through his own website. Basshunter's third single " Vi sitter i Ventrilo och spelar DotA" was certified gold by IFPI Danmark. Basshunter collaborated with the duo Patrik & Lillen on his single " Vifta med händerna". ( Full list...)

I would suggest 25 August 2024 for 20 years of The Bassmachine release. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurohunter ( talkcontribs) 12:45, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Note that 25 August is a Sunday; this could be run on 23 August (Friday) or 26 August (Monday). RunningTiger123 ( talk) 20:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
@ Eurohunter: pinging for previous comment. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 20:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
@ RunningTiger123: I think 26 August (Monday) would be a good time. Eurohunter ( talk) 18:51, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

List of accolades received by Interstellar

Interstellar, a 2014 epic and science fiction film directed by Christopher Nolan (pictured), won 23 awards from 87 nominations, with particular recognition for Nolan's direction as well as its musical score, cinematography, production design, and visual effects. It received five nominations at the 87th Academy Awards, winning Best Visual Effects. At the 68th British Academy Film Awards, it was nominated for Best Original Music, Best Cinematography and Best Production Design, and won Best Special Visual Effects. The film received eleven nominations at the 41st Saturn Awards, winning six, and seven nominations at the 20th Critics' Choice Awards, winning Best Sci-Fi/Horror Movie. Interstellar was named one of the Top 11 Films of 2014 by the American Film Institute. ( Full list...)

I'd like to suggest September 27, 2024 to coincide with its 10-year anniversary re-release. Sgubaldo ( talk) 03:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Anjelica Huston

Anjelica Huston is an American actress and filmmaker who has received numerous accolades throughout her career. She had her breakthrough role in the black comedy film Prizzi's Honor (1985), which won her the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, making her the third generation of her family to win an Oscar, following her father John and grandfather Walter Huston. She received two additional Academy Award nominations for Enemies, A Love Story (1989) and The Grifters (1990). She received two BAFTA Award nominations for the Woody Allen–directed films Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989) and Manhattan Murder Mystery (1993), and two Golden Globe Award nominations for her interpretation of Morticia Addams in The Addams Family (1991) and its sequel Addams Family Values (1993). ( Full list...)

-- Leo Mercury ( talk) 18:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


List of accolades received by Star Wars: The Force Awakens

John Williams
John Williams

Star Wars: The Force Awakens, a 2015 American epic space opera film directed by J. J. Abrams, won 40 awards from 104 nominations, with particular recognition for its visual effects, musical score, and sound effects. It garnered two nominations at the 88th Academy Awards, including Best Visual Effects. At the 69th British Academy Film Awards, the film was nominated for Best Original Music, Best Sound, and Best Production Design; and won Best Special Visual Effects. The film received a nomination for Best Picture at the 21st Critics' Choice Awards. In 2016, composer John Williams (pictured) won Best Score Soundtrack for Visual Media at the Grammy Awards' 59th ceremony. It won eight of fifteen nominations at the 42nd Saturn Awards. In addition, the American Film Institute selected The Force Awakens as one of the top ten films of the year. ( Full list...)

Would suggest for December 13, 2024, as it is the closest to the anniversary of the Hollywood, Los Angeles, premiere of Star Wars: The Force Awakens on December 14, 2015. Chompy Ace 23:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Outline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

The Marvel Cinematic Universe logo
The Marvel Cinematic Universe logo

The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is an American media franchise and shared universe created by Marvel Studios. Beginning in 2008 with the release of the film Iron Man, the franchise has since expanded to include various feature films and television series produced by Marvel Studios, television series from Marvel Television, and other media based on Marvel Comics characters. Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige oversees the main MCU productions. The MCU, similar to the original Marvel Universe, was established by crossing over common plot elements, settings, cast, and characters. It has been commercially successful, becoming one of the highest-grossing media franchises and the highest-grossing film franchise. This includes Avengers: Endgame, which concluded its theatrical run in 2019 as the highest-grossing film of all time. The franchise's success has influenced other studios to attempt similar shared universes. ( Full list...)

I would like to suggest this for May 2, 2025, as it is the 17 year anniversary of the release of the first MCU film, Iron Man, to a tee. I know 2025 is a ways away, though I felt it was best to get this submitted sooner rather than later. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 05:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

List of Vegas Golden Knights draft picks

2017 second-round selection Nicolas Hague
2017 second-round selection Nicolas Hague

The Vegas Golden Knights are a professional ice hockey franchise located in Las Vegas, Nevada. Founded ahead of the 2017–18 season as an expansion team, they play in the Pacific Division of the Western Conference in the National Hockey League (NHL). As of 2024, the Golden Knights have made 54 selections in eight NHL entry drafts. The Golden Knights first participated in the 2017 NHL entry draft, where they made Cody Glass their first-ever selection at sixth overall; they also selected Nick Suzuki and Erik Brannstrom later in the first round. 2017 second-round selection Nicolas Hague has played the most games for the Golden Knights of any draft pick, with 296 games played as of the conclusion of the 2023–24 NHL season. Hague and 2018 fifth-round pick Paul Cotter were the only draft picks to be inscribed on the Stanley Cup after the Golden Knights' victory in the 2023 Stanley Cup Finals. ( Full list...)

The Kip ( contribs) 04:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

77th Academy Awards

Clint Eastwood
Clint Eastwood

The 77th Academy Awards ceremony, presented by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), honored films released in 2004 and took place on February 27, 2005, at the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood, Los Angeles. During the ceremony, AMPAS presented Academy Awards in 24 categories. The ceremony, televised in the United States by ABC, was produced by Gilbert Cates and directed by Louis J. Horvitz. Actor Chris Rock hosted the show for the first time. Million Dollar Baby won four awards including Best Picture and Best Director for Clint Eastwood (pictured). Other winners included The Aviator with five awards and The Incredibles and Ray with two. The telecast garnered over 42 viewers in the United States. ( Full list...)

I would like this list to be posted on March 3 since the 97th Academy Awards are scheduled for March 2 (or March 3 00:00 UTC), and it will have been 20 years since this particular ceremony occurred.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Birdienest81 ( talkcontribs) 06:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

List of presidents of the United States

Since the presidency of the United States was established in 1789, 45 men have served in 46 presidencies. The president is the head of state and government, elected indirectly for a four-year term via the Electoral College. The officeholder leads the executive branch of the federal government and is the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces. The first president, George Washington, won a unanimous vote of the Electoral College, and was the was the only one never affiliated with a political party. William Henry Harrison's presidency was the shortest at 31 days. Franklin D. Roosevelt served the longest, over twelve years, and is the only president to serve more than two terms. Since the Twenty-second Amendment in 1951, no person may be elected president more than twice, and no one who has served more than two years of another's term may be elected more than once. Four presidents died of natural causes in office (William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin D. Roosevelt), four were assassinated ( Abraham Lincoln, James A. Garfield, William McKinley, and John F. Kennedy), and one resigned ( Richard Nixon). The incumbent president is _____, who assumed office on January 20, 20__ ( Full list...)

Feel free to copy-edit the blurb or make any other appropriate changes. As for the image, I decided to go with this group pic rather that simply the presidential flag or the White House. The portraits of Joe Biden/Donald Trump might be a bit controversial. I, alongside many other editors, helped promote this list to FL status a few years ago, and what would be a better date to run it than January 20, 2025 (Monday)! The only hurdle would be that we'll require assistance from an admin to update it real-time to change it from Biden to whoever would be. Let me know what your thoughts are. – Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 19:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

What if it was worded as "The most recently elected president is ___, who takes office on January 20, 2025."? I don't think that would have to be updated during the day. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 19:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
"45 men have served in 46 presidencies" will also be needed to update; as the things stand, Biden is not seeking another term, so this figure, for sure, would have to be changed at 12 noon Washington DC time, or whenever the next president takes the oath. – Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 14:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Good point. If we end up having an admin update this, I don't think that would be too challenging as long as the exact change is specified in advance. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 04:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

List of cities in Luhansk Oblast

View of Luhansk, capital and most populous city in the oblast
View of Luhansk, capital and most populous city in the oblast

In Ukraine's easternmost Luhansk Oblast, there are 37 populated places officially granted city status by the Verkhovna Rada, the country's parliament. Settlements with more than 10,000 people are eligible to become cities although the status is also typically given by parliament to settlements of historical or regional importance. According to the country's last official census in 2001, the most populous city in the oblast was the regional capital Luhansk, with a population of 463,097 people, while the least populous city was Almazna, with 5,061 people. Following the Donbas war in 2014, 25 of the oblast's cities were occupied by pro-Russian separatists. After the enactment of decommunization laws across the country, nine cities in separatist-occupied territory were de jure given new names in 2016 which were unrecognized by de facto pro-Russian officials in the cities. During the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russian troops have occupied all cities in the oblast since the end of the battle of Lysychansk in 2022. ( Full list...)

Dan the Animator 04:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

This is my first front-page FL nomination so any feedback would be great (also feel free to edit the blurb... I'm sure it can be improved!). Cheers, Dan the Animator 04:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Also feel free to switch out the image with a better one if there are any (I tried searching before but its tough to find a good cityscape image of Luhansk or most of the oblast's cities). Dan the Animator 04:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

United States congressional delegations from Arizona

Map of Arizona's nine congressional districts for the United States House of Representatives since 2022
Map of Arizona's nine congressional districts for the United States House of Representatives since 2022

Since Arizona became a U.S. state in 1912, it has sent congressional delegations to the United States Senate and United States House of Representatives, beginning with the 63rd United States Congress in 1913. Before becoming a state, the Arizona Territory elected a non-voting delegate at-large to Congress from 1864 to 1912. Each state elects two senators to serve for six years, and varying numbers of members of the House, depending on state population, to two-year terms. Arizona has sent nine members to the House in each delegation since the 2010 United States Census. A total of 57 people have served Arizona in the House and 14 have served Arizona in the Senate. The first woman to serve Arizona in the House was Isabella Greenway. Seven women have served Arizona in the House, including Kyrsten Sinema and Martha McSally, who also served Arizona in the Senate, the only women to do so. ( Full list...)

Staraction ( talk | contribs) 20:58, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

The Linda Lindas performing live in 2022, at First Avenue; L–R: Lucia de la Garza, Mila de la Garza, Eloise Wong, and Bela Salazar
The Linda Lindas performing live in 2022, at First Avenue; L–R: Lucia de la Garza, Mila de la Garza, Eloise Wong, and Bela Salazar

The discography of the Linda Lindas, an American rock band, consists of two studio albums, two extended plays, thirteen singles, and ten music videos. The Linda Lindas was formed in Los Angeles in 2018 by Bela Salazar (guitar, vocals), Eloise Wong (bass guitar, vocals), Lucia de la Garza (guitar, vocals), and Mila de la Garza (drums, vocals). The Linda Lindas released their self-titled debut EP independently in 2020. In 2021, the band went viral with a performance of " Racist, Sexist Boy" and subsequently signed with the Los Angeles-based label Epitaph Records. They released another EP which contains music that appeared in the Netflix film Moxie. The Linda Lindas released their debut album, entitled Growing Up, in 2022. Their second album, No Obligation, will be released in 2024. ( Full list...)

The Sharpest Lives ( 💬✏️ℹ️) ( ping me!) 21:10, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I would like to suggest October 11, 2024 to coincide with the scheduled release of their second album. – The Sharpest Lives ( 💬✏️ℹ️) ( ping me!) 21:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
If it were to appear that day, the blurb could be changed from "Their second album, No Obligation, will be released in 2024" to "Their second album, No Obligation, was released in 2024" or "was released today". – The Sharpest Lives ( 💬✏️ℹ️) ( ping me!) 21:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

List of games by Supermassive Games

Supermassive Games is a British video game developer based in Guildford, Surrey. They have worked on over 20 games since 2008. Until 2018 Supermassive worked almost exclusively with PlayStation, first working on downloadable content for LittleBigPlanet. The studio published their first game, Big Match Striker, in September 2010. Supermassive worked on multiple games that utilised the PlayStation Move motion controller including Start the Party! and Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves, both of which were released in 2010. In 2015, the studio started to focus mostly on interactive drama survival horror video games, starting with their breakout title, Until Dawn, which won the BAFTA Games Award for Original Property in 2016. With the success of Until Dawn, the studio continued to expand the universe, releasing two spin-off titles; Until Dawn: Rush of Blood (2016) and The Inpatient (2018), for PlayStation VR. In August 2019, Supermassive released Man of Medan, the first game in the Dark Pictures Anthology. In 2022, The Quarry, the spiritual successor to Until Dawn, was released. Supermassive's next game, The Casting of Frank Stone, a game set in the Dead by Daylight universe, will be released on 3 September 2024. ( Full list...)

I'd suggest September 2, 2024 which is the day before their next games releases. -- Zoo Blazer 07:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

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September 11 prosecutions

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Article:  United States v. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid bin Attash, and Mustafa al-Hawsawi agree to plead guilty in connection with planning the September 11 attacks (pictured). ( Post)
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  • Wait significant, but the actual trial will the event that gets coverage. Hold until then. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 22:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    There is no formal trial for these defendants, only a military commission. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Sentencing, sorry. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 00:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose good story but no significant change for these men. They are already in custody and will remain so. Natg 19 ( talk) 22:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Article is appropriately orange tagged and appears to need lots of work. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 22:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Conditional support The really notable thing here is their guilty plea removes the possibility of a death penalty (instead they will serve a life sentence) but also removes the possibility of a trial and the risk of the case being overturned due to 'invalid' evidence This has been in flux for years, and its an important development after a decade+ of legal drama. With that said, there could be a possible 'mini trial' and we could post then (likely next year). Or post now, but after improvements to the article (currently only contains a single sentence about the guilty plea and is not nearly ready for ITN). Schwinnspeed ( talk) 22:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose, the article isn't in good shape and this isn't notable Personisinsterest ( talk) 23:45, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support, big news. this is the biggest development in this case that has been ongoing for more than 20 years. A guilty plea wasn't expected because there was talk of the government wanting to imprison them for life (or just sentence them to death). President Biden even denied a plea proposal just last September. That Coptic Guyping me! ( talk) ( contribs) 01:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose This is really nothing, doesn't cap off anything since they've been incarcerated since. Article is also poor quality, far too much proseline and details and not really a narrative approach of a quality article. -- Masem ( t) 01:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose WTF? This event was 20 years ago. The first thing the article needs to explain is why this is happening at all right now. And a quick glance didn't answer that question for me. A simple explanation for us ignorant masses please, before I can support anything being posted. HiLo48 ( talk) 01:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    @ HiLo48 - Various leaders of al-Qaeda and their associates have been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay since the early days of the Bush administration, on charges that they were the planners behind 9/11 alongside bin Laden. The U.S. government has brought up a criminal case against them and has purposely drawn it out so these terrorists have little to no chance of release. The death penalty or life in prison is what they were seeking, and there were also concerns that exculpatory evidence was being withheld. Today, indeed after 20+ years, a deal seems to have been reached where the terrorists have entered a guilty plea. It is the most significant movement in the case against the 9/11 terrorists in years. That Coptic Guyping me! ( talk) ( contribs) 02:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    User:That Coptic Guy Thanks for that explanation. I'd suggest that some of what you've written there needs to be right up front in the article this nomination is based on. This is a global encyclopaedia, and a lot of readers will be like me, quite unaware of that background information. HiLo48 ( talk) 03:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment — The linked article unquestionably needs more work. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 05:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Moussa Dadis Camara

Article:  Moussa Dadis Camara ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Former President of Guinea Moussa Dadis Camara is found guilty of crimes against humanity. ( Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

The article looks to be well sourced. It has a outdated tag, though I'm not sure this is really necessary. Gödel2200 ( talk) 17:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Support fairly notable Ion.want.uu ( talk) 18:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Support as per Ion.want.uu, news from Africa rarely reach western audiences, and debatabaly, it is just as significant as highly visible events, such as the recent assassination of Ismail Haniyeh. Article needs some more work, though. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 23:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Support, notable Personisinsterest ( talk) 23:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose on quality, article still needs plenty of work. Among other issues, there is a tag that has been there for almost 10 years asking for an update on the massacre that the former president is responsible for. That Coptic Guyping me! ( talk) ( contribs) 01:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality per above. Will switch to support if/when it’s improved, a former head of state being convicted of crimes against humanity is notable enough. The Kip ( contribs) 02:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on Quality per above. Definitely something that should be posted if/when the page is brought up to scratch. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 04:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support in principle but oppose on quality per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 04:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Support on notability as per above. -- MtPenguinMonster ( talk) 04:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Killing of Ismail Haniyeh

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Article:  Killing of Ismail Haniyeh ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas, is killed in Tehran. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, is assassinated in Tehran.
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
  • Wait Lets get some more detail and flesh out the article. Right now we don't know much at all. It's also worth noting that today/tonight Israel is believed to have killed a senior military commander of Hezbollah in Beirut. Kind of reminds me of the last 10 minutes of The Godfather when all of the family's accounts are settled. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 03:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Zero need for a separate death article, unless the actual operation that took him down is well documented. Save for a couple of tags, the main bio article is ready to go. (And this is pending confirmation that seems up in the air right now. And to add once more, if true, clearly notable and ITN appropriate beyond the current ongoings) -- Masem ( t) 04:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong support Confirmed by Iranian sources, which are likely to be biased more towards Haniyeh and in favor of reporting him alive, but that is not the case. Apart from the legitimacy of this assassination, I strongly disagree with Masem in this regard and believe this should have a standalone article aswell as this marks the highest killing of a Hamas official/leader since the Israel-Hamas war started on October 7 and since the killing of Saleh al Arouri in January. Although it's very early right now to say anything about the killing, I believe as more time passes, more information will eventually be revealed as this is a huge event. Worst case scenario, if the killing is so poorly documented, I still believe it should have a standalone section in some article somewhere. Haniyeh has also held numerous positions other than just leading Hamas. TwistedAxe [contact] 04:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Unlike Killing of Osama bin Laden, where there is a great deal of discussion of the specific operation as well as the past attempts to kill him, all that is in the present article is 50% reaction material, 25% background, and the rest speculation as to the actual event. This is not how we write event articles, but we certainly can present the death as part of the biographical article. -- Masem ( t) 12:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
      Right, but I believe we’re still in the early stages and clearing the fog of war. If the dust settles and the assassination is still poorly documented, I’d say we put it under the Death section definitely. If, however, enough information is presented, I’d say we definitely keep the standalone article. TwistedAxe [contact] 14:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
      It's not unreasonable to have kept the details in both the bio article as well as at least one of the overarching ongoing articles about this Gaza conflict, particularly the latter because it provides the necessarily context of the larger picture. And then if extensive details of the actual Assassination emerge later then create the standalone. But this reverse way encourages bad splits as the potential of POV forks, as well as poor quality articles in trying to isolate the event from the larger picture without clearly knowing if that split makes sense. This type of approach is contrary to NOTNEWS and doesn't make for high quality ITN material that we are supposed to feature. Masem ( t) 14:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality: Article still needs a lot more work in order to qualify for ITN. More information is also needed on the assassination. Support once all these issues have been addressed. Tofusaurus ( talk) 04:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait - article is still developing/too short, and fog of war is still very much in effect w/ regards to exactly what happened (airstrike vs “raid,” official claims of responsibility, etc). Pretty much all that’s clearly confirmed at this moment is that he was assassinated in the first place. The Kip ( contribs) 04:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong support, per TwistedAxe. The article should be " Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh".-- Dr-Taher ( talk) 04:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ITN worthy, but wait until more reporting comes in, then we need to add the cause of death to the blurb because the current one is too short Afif Brika1 ( talk) 05:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh is just one small section of Ismail Haniyeh that was split out into its own stub for some reason. If this were fixed, then the main article would just need a little proseline clean up before it's ready. It's also developing a list of WP:INDISCRIMINATE trivia in the "responses" section as these articles often do, so that's another barrier. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 05:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on the basis of it being a notable event. Kurtis (talk) 05:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 06:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on notability, huge development. Shadow4dark ( talk) 07:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb to specify that Haniyeh was the group's political leader rather than military leader. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – ( Thanks ) 09:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Yes, This is an important point to mention. Dr-Taher ( talk) 09:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. Toadette Edit! 10:29, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. On notability. 🛧 Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 10:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Strong support on notability Personisinsterest ( talk) 10:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
By the way, can we get a picture of him in here? Personisinsterest ( talk) 11:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong Support Israel-Palestine is arguably the most notable topic in the world right now , Article is good enough . Altblurb is better as it states that he was political leader AlexBobCharles ( talk) 11:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted Step hen 12:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Why not note that he was political leader? 3 people (including me) supported this in this discussion AlexBobCharles ( talk) 12:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Yes, this mention is important. _-_Alsor ( talk) 13:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Agreed, it's important to specify that Haniyeh ws the political leader. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – ( Thanks ) 13:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • FYI, there are NPOV issues with the article [2]. VR (Please ping on reply) 13:15, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Post-Post Support Ion.want.uu ( talk) 13:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Post-Post Support - Article well cited and well written, except for the WP:FLAGCRUFT. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 13:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Pull NPOV issues. Noah, BSBA Talk 14:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    That is a dispute about some organization of the page and not substantive. There is no reason for an over reaction from here. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 14:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    +1 The NPOV disagreement is small AlexBobCharles ( talk) 14:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Post-posting conditional support - Disagree that NPOV issues warrant pulling, but agree with the above discussion that any blurb should specify he led the political bureau for clarity and accuracy. He was not the commander of the militant organization. The leader of the military wing, Mohammed Deif, is still alive. The average reader could plausibly assume "leader of Hamas" means the leader of the militant group, which is not accurate. An average reader might also assume that him being "the Hamas leader" meant he was the leader of the Gaza Strip, which is also an inaccurate reading as that person is Yahya Sinwar, who is also still alive. He was the highest ranking Hamas official killed in the war so far, but not important in the ways you might expect just based on his title. I do not support having it posted with the current blurb.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Post-Posting comment As pointed above in detail by Vanilla Wizard and others , blurb should specify he was leader of the political bureau AlexBobCharles ( talk) 20:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Robert Fellowes, Baron Fellowes

Article:  Robert Fellowes, Baron Fellowes ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [3] [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Private secretary to Elizabeth II in the 1990s and brother-in-law of Diana, Princess of Wales. Walco1 ( talk) 15:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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RD: Onyeka Onwenu

Article:  Onyeka Onwenu ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nigerian singer-songwriter and actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:D057:E125:D731:507A ( talk) 06:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Wayanad landslides

Article:  2024 Wayanad landslides ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 185 people die as a result of 2024 Wayanad landslides in Wayanad, India. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: Landslides in Wayanad, India kill at least 185 people.
Alternative blurb II: The deadliest landslides in Kerala history kill at least 185 in Wayanad.
News source(s): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51y7k2y7v1o
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These landslides got international media attention. Pachu Kannan ( talk) 15:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support - Notable enough, with multiple international media mentions. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 06:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Deadliest landslide in the region. Article is good enough to post. Sherenk1 ( talk) 10:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. Article structure is good enough to post. 🛧 Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 10:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
also, altblurb 2 Personisinsterest ( talk) 11:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted Step hen 12:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Venezuela protests

Article:  2024 Venezuelan protests ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Protests erupt in Venezuela against the Maduro government, after his victory in the 2024 elections that was widely seen as fraudulent. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Venezuela widespread protests erupt as the official 2024 election results are contested.
Alternative blurb II: Widespread protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election amid allegations of electoral fraud.
Alternative blurb III: ​ At least 19 people are killed during widespread protests in Venezuela after Nicolás Maduro claims to have won the 2024 presidential election amid allegations of electoral fraud.
Alternative blurb IV: Protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election
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This should probably be combined with the blurb below, but I think the protests are only becoming larger and larger, and are now international news. Article is making good progress. Libertad! PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 10:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Support: This would obviously be better than a blurb only about Maduro's win. Article is small but is expanding. Prodrummer619 ( talk) 10:51, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Perhaps reads more like a chronology, but well updated. And anecdotally, the BBC News report leads with the scale and severity of the protests, only saying "disputed re-election" as context - so I don’t think this needs to be combined with or wait for the election nom (below), it’s sufficiently standalone news. Kingsif ( talk) 12:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I know that there are protests going on there, but just listing a bunch of events in a chronological order without anything else that indicates these are all tied together is not a quality article. -- Masem ( t) 12:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Surely we would combine this blurb with the blurb for the election, so this nomination probably can just be replaced by adding an altblurb to the nom for the presidential election. Gödel2200 ( talk) 14:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment I have added an alt blurb. Unfortunately I am not (as of this comment) satisfied with the quality of the main article on the elections. But I do think the situation in Venezuela merits a blurb on the main page. The protest article is adequate for posting. I have included an unbolded link to the article on the elections. Hopefully it will continue to improve. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 15:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Perhaps a combined blurb could be something like " Widespread protests erupt after Nicolas Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's contested (or "controversial") 2024 presidential election". PtolemyXV ( talk) 15:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Added alt3. It can definitely be improved; death toll taken from the article, which could also be improved, especially after another day. Kingsif ( talk) 20:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support National election results are noteworthy, and I think the quality of the article will continue to improve given the magnitude of the event. Royal Autumn Crest ( talk) 21:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose the blurbs as politically charged, we didn't say it like that for the Rwandan election, even though it is more likely to have had irregularities, judging from the results. Also, wait for the protests to unfold further as they clearly been planned well beforehand, and the article is also largely currently only one-sided. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 12:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Added alt4. There really is no need to append that the results are disputed - the protests themselves would indicate this. And I'm not sure the usage of "widespread" is needed here. But I do think this is to best, and works as a combined blurb. DarkSide830 ( talk) 14:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support alt4, as it is more neutral and not politically charged i.e. imply which side the protests are on. Wait on article about the protests, as work needs to be done to ensure the article is not all on the anti-Chavista side. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 23:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose in general; this article is not being developed, is woefully incomplete, the infobox is mostly OR, and I don't see any chance it is going to improve because of lack of effort. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 00:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment I copied my note on the July 29 listing here. These are some comments I would like to restate:
    IMO, I think the only thing in the way of this being posted is the flagrant political bias in both articles. I think I would like to work on this ^ - ^ -- Viva Nicolás ( talk) 04:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    Remember when the 2019 Bolivian general election was overturned by protests when the opposition alleged they were rigged, but the 2020 Bolivian general election run under the coup regime definitively showed otherwise. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 06:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    The election article can be formatted like the 2019 Bolivian general election article, while the protests article can be formatted like the 2019 Bolivian protests article. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 06:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: William Calley

Article:  William Calley ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American war criminal. Only man convicted in the My Lai Massacre. He died on April 28th but his death was only just reported. Article is in decent shape. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 04:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Support! He was the only one convicted in this important event. 109.43.48.31 ( talk) 13:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

We'll post anyone important enough to have a Wikipedia page; we only assess article quality here. Bremps ... 15:05, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support One cn tag shouldn't keep hit this otherwise lengthy well sourced article from getting posted. -- TDKR Chicago 101 ( talk) 18:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    I have added a cite and removed the only CN tag. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 22:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Article meets ITN standards for posting. Jusdafax ( talk) 00:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • At least two people are killed and as many as 100 others are injured when a passenger train carrying 800 people collides with a Kamaz truck near Volgograd, Russia, and partially derails. (Al Arabiya)

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RD: Chino XL

Article:  Chino XL ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone, Variety
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American rapper and actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 ( talk) 21:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Robert Banas

Article:  Robert Banas ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American dancer and actors. 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 ( talk) 21:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Weak Support I think the article is adequate (barely) for posting. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 04:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Deadpool & Wolverine

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Article:  Deadpool & Wolverine ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Deadpool & Wolverine, starring Ryan Reynolds (pictured), breaks box office records for an R-rated movie in its opening weekend ( Post)
News source(s): CNN, France24, Hollywood Reporter, LA Times, NYT, Straits Times, Variety
Credits:
Article updated

This has been a hit with our readers too as the top read article for several straight days now, beating the Olympics, the elections and the rest. Andrew🐉( talk) 10:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose ITN is not for these types of news. First of all, we do not post News items just because they are the most read one, that goes here. Second, R-rating is just a US specific rating and a large of readers probably do not know about it and therefore this record holds little value to them. Lastly, it is only the 6th largest opening in the US overall and around 12th biggest worldwide opening for any movie, so hardly a groundbreaking record. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Not the type of business news we post, and to state this yet again, we do not use page views as a metric of whether we should post at ITN in the first place. -- Masem ( t) 11:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per PrinceofPunjab. Estreyeria ( talk) 13:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Prince of Punjab. This isn't the overall record, which is inevitably broken due to inflation. This is like saying there is a new tallest building in the world...well, the tallest that Americans under 17 can enter with adult supervision. Unknown Temptation ( talk) 13:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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New UNESCO World Heritage Sites

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Article:  List of World Heritage Sites by year of inscription#2024 (46th session) ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The World Heritage Committee in New Delhi selected 24 new sites for the global List of World Heritage Sites, with the Schwerin Castle in Germany (pictured) among them. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 24 new sites were selected for the global List of World Heritage Sites during the 46th session in New Delhi, India.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The World Heritage Committee designates 24 new UNESCO World Heritage Sites during its 46th session in New Delhi, India ( Schwerin Castle in Germany pictured).
News source(s): UNESCO DW EuroNews
Credits:

Article updated

The newly selected UNESCO World Heritage Sites are normally featured in the News here. Example can be left out or swapped, I think it is usually a wonderful addition. -- Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 09:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support After a huge emphasis on sports and politics lately, more cultural news are definitely appreciated! And this is certainly the most relevant of the past few weeks. Venustates ( talk) 09:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Maybe It's interesting, in the news and encyclopedic but there are over a thousand of these sites now and another 24 seems too many to be headlining particular cases. In the UK, it was the Flow Country which got attention. How do we decide which to feature? Andrew🐉( talk) 10:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    Comment: I totally get that, that's why I said the example can of course also be left out, though it is nice to have a picturesque example included. But I wouldn't put much emphasis on that. Greetings, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 10:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    As I noted below, Ruins of Gedi is a GA and probably the highest-quality article of the sites selected, so it would be a good choice to feature with an image. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 13:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support with a picture of Ruins of Gedi, which is a GA and has the highest-quality article of the sites selected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 13:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    The article looks good, no doubt! Though the Good Article batch is from 2017 already and criteria have become quite a bit more strict. Greetings, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 13:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    I think the Schwerin Castle makes the perfect picture of all new entries! -- Venustates ( talk) 13:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment This happens every year and sometimes more than once per year, and we never post them. This time there are more than 20, and overall more than 1000. What we post are removal of the sites because the countries have managed them badly. This comment coming from someone heavily involved with World Heritage lists ;) -- Tone 13:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    Certainly! At the same time, there are several things that happen every year or multiple times a year, like various sports events, or Oscar recipients (yawn ;) that are *always* posted. It's usually in all national news when a country gets a new World Heritage List entry. -- Venustates ( talk) 13:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Actually, I'll add that the list is factually inaccurate. For example, the Moravian Church settlements were listed in 2015 in Denmark. In 2024, the site was extended to include sites in the US, UK, and Germany. And yet, in the list, everything is listed as in 2015, which is incorrect. Oppose on quality, and on no prose. (but yes, I am all for posting good news) -- Tone 03:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Ok, if it is just about that very detail, how about just changing it in the article and we're good. :) -- Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 09:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support yeah, why not? I get that it hasn't been posted before but I think doing something different would be interesting. Blythwood ( talk) 14:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on account more than anything else of not being sure the best way to blurb this. It's a routine event, but unlike an election, prize, or sporting event, there is no "winner". There is no overarching individual story here save the same sort that happens any individual year. Either we're just saying sites are announced (which isn't really news itself because, again, it's a scheduled event), or we're singling out one like in the original blurb, which is putting undue focus on whichever site we select to feature. DarkSide830 ( talk) 15:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support It's nice to have positive news instead of the usual assassination, coup, plane crash, or natural disaster. Celjski Grad ( talk) 15:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per above, nice to have something good in itn for once Sharrdx ( talk) 15:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support A wonderful nomination! With regards to pics, we could feature several ones over the course of the days this stays on top. E.g. start with Gedi, then Schwerin, etc. until something else supersedes this. Should this make it, and be supported also in upcoming years, this could even be a regular feature for ITNR? Khuft ( talk) 15:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    ITNR would be a lovely idea. However, I don't see how you can vote support when there's so little prose. Bremps ... 16:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    I really like this idea; could be an excellent way to show off a bunch of our articles! ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 12:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on article quality. No stand alone article and in the linked page there is no prose, just tables. I'm not opposed on principle. But we need something with meat on it if we are going to be promoting this on the main page. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 15:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality as there's zero prose. Will support when fixed. The Kip ( contribs) 18:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support in principle, with no comment on article quality as I haven't looked over any of them yet. I've added a second altblurb for consideration. Kurtis (talk) 18:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality I could see us posting this every year, but if the article has no prose, it simply can't be posted. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:16, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose for tabularity and because most sections start with numerals (ending without periods). InedibleHulk ( talk) 21:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose but suggest transferring to featured list This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 22:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    You've been around long enough to know that "toss to x section" is an extremely poor argument. Curbon7 ( talk) 01:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I really want to support given coverage of this has raised my spirits amongst everything else, but per The KIP and Ad Orientem we've declined much more urgent and pressing news in the past due to similar article quality and lack of prose. Schwinnspeed ( talk) 02:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This seemingly happens every year and there's nothing particularly remarkable about this one, particularly as we're not highlighting any of them in particular. Incremental statistics are rarely good ITN material. Obviously would need to address the lack of prose too to be even considered.  —  Amakuru ( talk) 05:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Would it help to add some prose introduction to the Committee session in the article? Or rather integrate it in the World Heritage Committee article as an individual section that can be updated for every new session when new entries are publicly announced? :) Greetings, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 10:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Always cool, but there is no prose update! The section is just a table and that's it. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 12:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Absolutely no article would ever get posted if the only update to it was a table with no prose whatsoever attached, and this should not be an exception. -- Kicking222 ( talk) 13:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Venezuelan presidential election

Article:  2024 Venezuelan presidential election ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nicolás Maduro is announced as the winner of the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Venezuela, incumbent President Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of the presidential election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Incumbent Nicolás Maduro is re-elected President of Venezuela for a third term.
Alternative blurb III: ​ After disputed presidential elections, protests erupt in Venezuela.
Alternative blurb IV: Protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election
News source(s): NY Times BBC News
Credits:
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nicolás Maduro has been announced the winner of the 2024 election. -- Rockstone Send me a message! 04:42, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support "Who gets the most votes means nothing. Who counts the votes, means everything" Joseph Stalin - Ad Orientem ( talk) 04:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Not Ready As noted by others, the article has a number of issues that will require some work before this can be posted. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 14:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ALTBLURB with "declared winner" language used for dubious elections This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 04:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support alt disappointing. Yoblyblob ( Talk) :) 05:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb language used and oppose for citations needed - I caution users to tame their chauvinism. Western media is very obviously biased on this matter. For decades, the West has sought regime change in this nation and election after election we see the West attempt to discredit elections in socialist countries in the Global South. It is frankly disgusting that Wikipedia is joining in this rather than critically assessing our sources for reliability. How many times must we watch as the US manufactures consent for a coup before we realize that we can't trust most US sources on this issue. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 05:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Really? The second citation is British.... not American. -- Rockstone Send me a message! 05:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
You are funny if you think that makes difference. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 05:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
With all due respect, it's outrageous to refer to the BBC as a "US source", and it makes you look very bad. Honestly, your entire comment is outrageous and doesn't serve to help the project in any manner. You should consider striking it. -- Rockstone Send me a message! 15:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Regardless of the authenticity of the election, these discussion pages are not meant to be used to petty bickering. We will use the source deemed most reliable, and whether or not it fits with your stance on the subject, be it politically or as an external perspective/opinion, is not to be taken into consideration. Let's do our best not to become Reddit, thank you. Daneellis114 ( talk) 23:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Yeah best to close the discussion here PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 10:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
For about the 50th time in the last month to various users, personal commentary doesn’t help this project. The Kip ( contribs) 06:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
This was objectively a sham election by all reliable accounts apart from the Maduro regime, stop pushing POV. PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 11:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Do you have any independent sources to back up your entire comment? If not, you yourself are guilty of pushing a pro-Maduro POV. Tube· of· Light 14:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
The BBC is not a reliable source but the Venezuelan regime somehow is PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 18:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Um, hate to be that guy, but countering chauvinism or "chauvinism" with what presents as chauvinism itself isn't helpful. DarkSide830 ( talk) 15:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb with "declared" due to the dispute. Article seems well written and cited. The C of E God Save the King! ( talk) 05:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support the original blurb unless evidence of fraud emerges (which it may, of course) PtolemyXV ( talk) 05:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb, it’s not just “the west” disputing the results but the opposition themselves. The Kip ( contribs) 06:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose The proposed blurbs don't adequately convey the phony nature of the process. And the article is in a poor state with a lot of rambling, citations needed and tense errors. Andrew🐉( talk) 09:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Repeatedly has been shown tht we're not going to try to call out sham elections or their ilk at ITN. We can use language how we say who won that implies that it was not democratic win, like we have done for the last Russian election, but it becomes a NPOV problem to suggest in the ITN blurb if the election is a sham; that's a topic left for the article in question. —  Masem ( t) 11:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
      That's nonsense because numerous editors have supported the alt blurb as a standard signal to the reader that the election was not free and fair. So, we do regularly call out such sham elections in that way but it's too subtle -- we should be more direct rather than dropping hints.
      In any case, there are still the quality issues which are not resolved.
      Andrew🐉( talk) 20:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose article has two cn tags, two orange tags, one yellow tag and result section is empty. Therefore, it is no way near ready to be posted. I support the Alt Blurb when it is ready to be psoted. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality, but support alt when ready. Gödel2200 ( talk) 13:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose those and any blurb that does not acknowledge the denounces of electoral fraud, which are a relevant news topic in themselves. Cambalachero ( talk) 15:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support once the article is well ready and meets quality standards. -- cyrfaw ( talk) 17:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Are we sure this is WP:ITN/R? There was no change in administration. Staraction ( talk | contribs) 19:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    This falls under "The results of general elections in: All states on the list of sovereign states". Howard the Duck ( talk) 19:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Actually, elections for the executive where there is no change in office are now also ITNR, per this discussion. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose There are multiple orange tags, and the endorsements section is missing a lot of citations. Will support the alt when ready. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait The National Electoral Council (Venezuela) has been offline and/or has a DNS problem since at least the last day or so, although some archived snapshots e.g. 28 July are available. As of the 2010s and 2020s, the electoral results coordinated by any national election commission, except for the internet-poorest countries, are normally published in full detail on the commission's website. Whether the reason for the website non-availability is attacks such as DDOS or tech incompetence or a desire to hide the results, the fact is that by the current standards of a national election, the results in the sense of open data are not yet published. There is currently only a "believe-us" XXth century style "result" announced by the CNE so far. The heads of many American states, such as Gabriel Boric, are putting pressure on the CNE to get the full results published. Waiting for a more serious release of the full results would make sense. Boud ( talk) 21:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait Along the lines of what Boud said, in lay terms, the election result hasn't actually been called, Maduro has just said he's won. The opposition has not conceded, there are no results to show (some apparently have fully gone missing) - the last update from even Maduro's own commission is that vote counts will be coming soon. Kingsif ( talk) 21:12, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose For now, as the results themselves are still unavailable in the article. Granted, the results aren't gonna be super shocking. Dyaquna ( talk) 22:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Reliable sources are essentially unanimous in describing the election as neither free or fair. Therefore, Maduro being declared the winner is about as surprising as "water is wet". KlayCax ( talk) 00:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait There should be something, however it ought to mention the dispute. This is major news.
Metallurgist ( talk) 01:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Update of blurb needed: While waiting for the CNE to announce the full results, the 2024 Venezuelan protests (probably not the best name, since there were probably other protests in Venezuela in 2024) are already 11 kb of source text just 5 hours after being created, so should be integrated into the blurb. Things could change fast depending on if/when the CNE publishes the full results or continues to refuse to publish them, so further updates might be needed. Boud ( talk) 01:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    • I agree, and had actually just come here to suggest much the same. — Cryptic 01:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    Suggest nominating the protests as their own blurb. If the photo can be confirmed as free, it's also really good to go in the box. Kingsif ( talk) 02:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose because the election is dispute, protests are ongoing, and there are multiple orange tags. JohnAdams1800 ( talk) 02:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose unless the blurb states clearly that it was rigged and that it sparked massive protests. Plus, the article has certain problems. If these are solved, take this one as a support. -- Bedivere ( talk) 06:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb2. That thing with words like "announced" or "declared" in dubious elections simply doesn't work, and I don't think our readers get the difference that a group of editors here wants to convey. Simply use "re-elected" and let the readers visit the article to find out the details. All winners are "announced" or "declared" no matter if the election was free and fair.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 08:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    Most readers don't click through to the article. The main page gets about 5 million views daily but the number of readers that click though ITN links is only about 10K -- a tiny fraction. So, most readers will glance at or skim the main page and will just see the headline and the grinning picture of the tyrant/dictator/president-for-life. So, we should make the headline plain and clear if we run one because that's all most readers will see. Andrew🐉( talk) 09:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    Why do you think that "announced" or "declared" makes it clear that the winner is a dictator or that the election was not free and fair? Why not extend the blurb to say that "X was re-elected in a dubious election"?-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 09:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    The result is disputed; for example, see Venezuelan opposition says it has proof its candidate defeated President Maduro in disputed election. In such circumstances of claim and counter-claim, it's not our job to pick a winner. All we might say currently is that there is unrest following a disputed election. Andrew🐉( talk) 10:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    I agree that the protests should be the main story now. My point was that the words "announced" or "declared" wouldn't make any difference. If we post that Maduro was "announced winner", we practically accept the announcement of the National Electoral Council, so we practically side with them and pick Maduro as winner. Note that the opposition rejects outright what the National Electoral Council announced as a result of the election.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 14:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Comment. Since the focus is now on protests, I suggest alternative blurb:
After disputed presidential elections, protests erupt in Venezuela. BilboBeggins ( talk) 12:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
This is a good blurb, but the article quality for the protests is not there yet. Gödel2200 ( talk) 13:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
The sources do not currently show which is more notable: the election or the protests, so putting both in bold would be better justified. Boud ( talk) 13:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
I agree with this, but both articles currently are not of sufficient quality. So if one is improved before the other, we could just make that the target to start out. Gödel2200 ( talk) 14:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Well referenced and article fixed now. MAL MALDIVE ( talk) 14:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb3 Article infobox makes no claim of a winner, lede claims both are self-proclaimed winners. Peter Njeim ( talk) 17:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb3 so a NPOV stance is mantained and the disputed nature of the election is highlighted. CVDX ( talk) 22:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose altblurb3, we didn't say that when Trump claimed fraud, or put that into the same blurb. Wait for the protests to unfold further as they CLEARLY have been planned well before the elections took place. And, the article for the protests largely covers only one side. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 12:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    • ALT3 does not take a side on the fraud controversy, only points that they are disputed presidential elections... which they are, and it doesn't take a POV to say so Cambalachero ( talk) 15:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    The Carter Center is convincing:
    • "Carter Center Statement on Venezuela Election" (Press release). Carter Center. 30 July 2024. Retrieved 31 July 2024.
    and the OAS will speak today. Blurb III is best (but both of the Venezuelan articles are in much worse shape than indicted by the tags still on them -- it's very hard to even document all of the cleanup still needed). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    • And this:
      • Applebaum, Anne (31 July 2024). "Venezuela's Dictator Can't Even Lie Well". The Atlantic. Retrieved 31 July 2024. In the hours after the polls closed, much of the international media had refrained from stating the obvious. 'BREAKING:,' the Associated Press tweeted on Monday. 'Venezuela's President Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner in the presidential election amid opposition claims of irregularities.' But by Tuesday morning, it was absolutely clear that the election was not merely irregular or tainted or disputed: The election had been stolen.
      SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
      We are in a new cold war, and as per Coffeeandcrumbs, the mainstream media of one side will all portray the conflict in a certain way.
      See these two articles from an left-wing American media organisation:
      • Macleod, Alan (30 July 2024). "Venezuela: While US politicians call fraud, American election observers endorse results". Mintpress News. Retrieved 31 July 2024. I spoke to a person who is voting against Maduro, a professional who studied psychology in San Francisco. She was hopeful for change. But what was very significant was that she thought that the electoral process is free and fair. Overall, our impression of going to the various polling places was that people were very welcoming to us international observers, and were very proud to be out there voting for their country."

        "People are happy and welcoming tons of foreigners to look and see what they are doing and explain it patiently, with confidence and real enthusiasm for democracy. Actually, I think that one of the reasons that there is so much cynicism in the United States about democracy is that people don't trust the system. And here, part of their enthusiasm is that they have a lot of confidence in their system, that their voice will be heard".

      • Macleod, Alan (30 July 2024). "Solidarity from Palestine to Venezuela: Meet the Palestinians observing Venezuela's elections". Mintpress News. Retrieved 31 July 2024. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 03:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
      You should consider installing the unreliable source detector, as it instantly flagged your links as unreliable because Mintpress News is known to publish fabricated information regularly. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 04:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
      Well, Mintpress published two articles on their blacklisting on Wikipedia. They and another major leftist news outlet TeleSUR, were blacklisted in 2019-2020 the context of the 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis. You can read the article if you are curious:
      First of all, if anything, Wikipedia has a slight pro-left bias (like much of the internet). Second of all, it does not matter if they are a "leftist" news outlet. It matters if they are reliable or not. And the consensus on Wikipedia is that they are unreliable because they have been shown (with proof) to have routinely published fabricated information. Regardless, that is not even a discussion that needs to be had here - you can review the reasons the community decided it is so unreliable as to deserve deprecation at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 268 § RfC: MintPress News if you so wish. If you continue to act that source needs to be considered for anything, much less an irrelevant policy violating commentary about whether the protests are "legitimate" or not, it is not likely to bode well for your continued participation in the topic area/Wikipedia as a whole. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    May I ask who planned the protests? Because they occured suddenly, opposition figures didn't ask for protests, they asked only for verified ballots to make the result of election transparent, because they know what are consequences for them. BilboBeggins ( talk) 20:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
    Here it is:
    The defendant providing this statement is enough to cast doubt on that the protests weren't pre-planned from the outside. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 03:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    So, in one word... WP:FRINGE. Cambalachero ( talk) 04:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    But the tweet itself and attached to the tweet is an official communique from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Venezuela. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 04:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    You mean the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that's run by and subject to the whims of Maduro himself? Of course Maduro is going to try to delegitimize the protests regarding his attempt to falsify election results. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment IMO, I think the only thing in the way of this being posted is the flagrant political bias in both articles. I think I would like to work on this ^ - ^ -- Viva Nicolás ( talk) 04:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    Maybe, if this has to be posted within a specified timeframe, I would support altblurb4 on the nomination on July 30. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 05:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    I've added alt4 from that nomination into this nomination. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 05:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    And remember when the 2019 Bolivian general election was overturned by protests when the opposition alleged they were rigged, but the 2020 Bolivian general election run under the coup regime definitively showed otherwise. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 06:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
    The election article can be formatted like the 2019 Bolivian general election article, while the protests article can be formatted like the 2019 Bolivian protests article. Viva Nicolás ( talk) 06:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

July 28

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Alma Powell

Article:  Alma Powell ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American audiologist. 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF ( talk) 06:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Francine Pascal

Article:  Francine Pascal ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): People, New York Times
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American author and creator of Sweet Valley High series. 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF ( talk) 06:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose Article is orange tagged for expansion and is a bit short. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 11:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment I've expanded the article out a bit; I don't think there are any unsourced statements anymore, but it's definitely still on the shorter side. I would add that the "sources" section, which seems to awkwardly combine a bibliography and a reference list, does not seem appropriate for the article in its current form and the bibliography side of it is basically unsourced, as it has no ISBNs or anything of the like.-- Sunshineisles2 ( talk) 14:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Doug Creek

Article:  Doug Creek ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American baseball player. 240F:7A:6253:1:7072:B26A:4473:10DD ( talk) 06:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article has only three sources, needs more citations. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:16, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Reyes Moronta

Article:  Reyes Moronta ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

–  Muboshgu ( talk) 04:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final

Article:  2024 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Gaelic football, the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship concludes with Armagh defeating Galway in the final. ( Post)
News source(s): (The Irish Times)
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Goevenonme ( talk) 00:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support - Well-written and in-depth article, don’t see any issues. The Kip ( contribs) 03:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Support article looks good enough to be posted. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - good article, significant sporting event.

IrishRealistic ( talk) 18:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support The article has a good amount of prose about the final. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted. Black Kite (talk) 08:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: John Anderson

Article:  John Anderson (television personality) ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

UK Gladiators referee and British Olympic coach. The C of E God Save the King! ( talk) 21:32, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Support meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak support DoB is cn tagged and also the infobox includes his spouses but it isn't anywhere in the prose nor is it sourced, so that info should be added to prose and sourced or excised from the infobox. Otherwise article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 16:51, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    Cited DOB and birthplace. Curbon7 ( talk) 01:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Prince Michael of Greece and Denmark

Article:  Prince Michael of Greece and Denmark ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Sky News, The Independent, and others.
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

He was a member of the former Greek royal family, a writer, a historian, a first cousin of Prince Philip and the last surviving great-grandson of Christian IX. - Therealscorp1an ( talk) 22:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Wait List of works section needs more sources. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

July 27

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

  • Eight people are killed and five others are injured when a vehicle hits pedestrians in Changsha, Hunan, China. The perpetrator is arrested. (AP)

Sports


(Posted) RD: Murray Costello

Article:  Murray Costello ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Hockey Canada NHL.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Canadian ice hockey player, executive, and administrator. Article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 17:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support, article is good quality
Personisinsterest ( talk) 15:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Edna O'Brien

Proposed image
Article:  Edna O'Brien ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Appears to be well-sourced. Mooonswimmer 18:34, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Ready it is of great quality, marking it ready. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Most of the photos that you mentioned were for political leaders where the nomination fell under ITNR (though the ones for Biden and Trump were not), so it is not at all surprising that they were featured. And all of them were for blurbs, so by virtue of them being blurbed, of course their picture will be featured. Unless you can show that female leaders are being deliberately left out of ITN, the claim that this has anything to do with systemic bias is completely unfounded. Gödel2200 ( talk) 17:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Majdal Shams attack

Article:  Majdal Shams attack ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A rocket attack allegedly launched by Hezbollah on the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights kills at least 14 civilians. ( Post)
News source(s): BBC Times of Israel Hindustan Times Press TV Iran Reuters Russia Today Al Jazeera
Credits:

Article updated

Current official death toll is at 12 as of time of writing. Although the scale of this attack is dwarfed daily by IDF bombardments of Gaza, I propose that we cover this particular story because:

  • It is the single deadliest attack on Israeli civilians since October 7. [8]
  • It is the single deadliest spillover incident of the war since inception.
  • The attack was carried out in the context of a conflict with Hezbollah, which would make it separate from the Israel-Gaza war itself.
  • Attacks by other regional entities (Iran, the Houthis, and Hezbollah itself) have not previously resulted in this number of casualties during the conflict.
  • The article is expanded, well-written, and of a suitable length, with no citation needed tags.

For the above reasons, I hereby nominate this entry.

  • Support as nom. 104.171.53.110 ( talk) 08:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. This is covered by ongoing, or should be, because it’s part of a wave of attacks against Israel by Iranian proxies, and the ensuing counterattacks by Israel. Jehochman Talk 09:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose, covered by ongoing as direct spillover of the war. Also, if we specifically post attacks killing Israeli civilians but not those killing Palestinian civilians, we'll be having a pretty big NPOV issue on the main page. Chaotic Enby ( talk · contribs) 10:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Wait - Posting this may be a problem as pointed out above, as it naturally invites comparisons to civilian casualties in Gaza (though this could be considered more notable as there are less Israeli civilian deaths, it's still a POV problem). I think it's best to wait to see what the Israeli response is; if this escalates the conflict with Hezbollah it's definitely enough to post, but until then Oppose PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 12:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose This is covered by ongoing unless Israel responds in a major way. Gödel2200 ( talk) 13:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Not really. If it were a strike by the Palestinians, sure, but this was a strike by Hezbollah. This incident falls under the Israel-Hezbollah war, which is not in the Ongoing section. Bremps ... 16:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above (covered in ongoing), but particularly in light of what Chaotic Enby has said about the neutrality here. -- Masem ( t) 13:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose as covered by the war, but also recommend speedy close due to WP:ECR. IPs aren’t allowed to nominate things like this. The Kip ( contribs) 16:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    @ ScottishFinnishRadish, pinging for your opinion re: ECR closing here. The Kip ( contribs) 22:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Yeah, this isn't an edit request, it's a submission to an internal process. At this point we're past closing, though. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 23:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • In general I would support this, along with routine killings of civilians in Gaza. Both are significant and should be posted whether or not we have the ongoing Israel-Hamas war. VR (Please ping on reply) 20:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose covered by ongoing. Also, Victims section is sort of unorthodox on Wikipedia and I think fails WP:MOS. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Wolfgang Rihm

Article:  Wolfgang Rihm ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Yahoo
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs work, maybe the "works" section could be split out? Natg 19 ( talk) 23:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done Grimes2 ( talk) 08:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • No, we don't move content out so that it doesn't have to be referenced. Step hen 11:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    But the reference to the publisher of Rihm's works includes the works. Grimes2 ( talk) 12:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Bibliographies, lists of compositions, albums, etc. are common in biography articles. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 17:06, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Whoops, I didn't realize that there was a reference at first. But either way, the article looks cleaner with it moved out, as the list of 500 works does make the article unwieldy. Natg 19 ( talk) 17:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Yeah, that's an appropriate WP:WHENSPLIT. Ed  [talk]  [OMT] 03:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Article ok and well sourced. Grimes2 ( talk) 14:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 16:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: I just started updating, and am too tired for more today. Had to work on last-minute violinist who needs attention today, look for Dahn who updated. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support, nice work you two. I'm considering trying to take this article to GA over the next few weeks... although many of the many bios are hard to access, it seems. – Aza24 (talk) 01:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted. -- PFHLai ( talk) 12:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

July 26

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RD: Lionel Elika Fatupaito

Article:  Lionel Elika Fatupaito ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): New York Post, New Strait Times, CBS News, ESPN, Daily Mail, The New York Times, The Independent, The Times of India
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
  • Oppose - article created today, and as I cannot find any sourcing on him apart from the reports of his death, I have sent the article to AfD. Black Kite (talk) 14:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Janet Andrewartha

Article:  Janet Andrewartha ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): [9], [10]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

  Happily888 ( talk) 07:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose Filmography is mostly unsourced, and the source for the stage section doesn't cover everything listed there. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 20:52, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose unsourced Filmography. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 France railway arson attacks

Article:  2024 France railway arson attacks ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A series of arson attacks damages several lines of the French high-speed railway system. ( Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

pbp 20:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Support - I think it's best to have this as a separate blurb as the attacks haven't been linked to the Olympics (though they likely were related). In the news PrecariousWorlds ( talk) 21:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality - nowhere near long enough, and half the content are reactions that either can be better integrated into a response (eg the transportation head talking about delays) or are just "hopes and prayers"-type nonsense we shouldn't include. -- Masem ( t) 21:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose independently, neutral combined — No fatal consequences, though this is clearly significant. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:08, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support notable terrorist (?) attack This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 22:09, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose as these attacks only damaged several lines of the railway system without any casualties or severe disruptions. I'm strongly against combining this with the opening ceremony as it had low impact on that event.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 22:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Kiril. Article is also quite short. The Kip ( contribs) 22:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    For those of you, such as @ Masem saying "but the article is short"...is it complete though? pbp 23:17, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    If the article is complete in its current state, then it simply isn't enough for the front page. The Kip ( contribs) 23:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    To me, it looks comparable to the example new article shown at WP:ITNUPDATE, or at worst very close to enough. — Cryptic 00:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    That incident also killed almost 20 people, and injured over 70. Not sure if it’d get posted today anyways - keep in mind standards were a bit more lax a decade ago. The Kip ( contribs) 02:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    I'd thought it was an article quality argument I was countering. I agree there's a wider difference in significance. — Cryptic 19:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Notable-ish but no one was killed or injured and I don't think it's significant enough to be posted
Personisinsterest ( talk) 22:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. There is no reason to be linking to a useless, poorly written article about a few arsons when we have an actual article about the transportation that needs to be expanded. The whole point of Wikipedia is to provide summarized information in context, not to rewrite blow-by-blow accounts of each random thing separately every time you refresh the website of the New York Times. Will switch to support if this is redone as an update to Wikipedia content to reflect current events as ITN posts are supposed to be. And as a side note, it would be great if the closer could disregard any !votes about casualties since that's not a metric of significance on Wikipedia. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 23:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    If we're talking disregarding votes, maybe yours should be disregarded because you're using it as a soapbox to complain about the condition of a different article pbp 03:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    Then you may wish to reread what I said. The only time I mentioned another article was when I suggested a merge target for this one. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 04:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    This is not some random accident like a landslide in the boondocks. It's multiple synchronised attacks targeting significant infrastructure of a major nation. It is thus comparable with the attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines or the 9-11 attacks in the US. It seems to have been scheduled for the start of the Olympics but its impact goes beyond that as this is the start of the French holiday season when much of the country plans to travel. Andrew🐉( talk) 07:52, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
It is thus comparable with the attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines or the 9-11 attacks in the US. What? An attack with no casualties is comparable to an attack with thousands of casualties that led to the War on terror? Gödel2200 ( talk) 12:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
If you're referring to Ethiopia when you say "the boondocks", that doesn't make what's happening there insignificant Dyaquna ( talk) 15:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
The point is that the sabotage was not a "random thing" or Act of God. It was a coordinated attack in multiple locations. As these things go, it's quite unusual for there to be a synchronised attack in so many locations. 9-11 targeted three locations while this attack targeted five. Andrew🐉( talk) 07:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support halting services for over 800K people feels quite notable to me. This is quite a large attack, regardless of the lack of casualties. I understand the Crowdstrike incident is on a way grander scale than this will ever be, but as it is still an event that caused a halting on travel systems, we didn't stop that from being posted from a lack of deaths or injuries. Captain Galaxy 23:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose The attack has no casualties, and the article does not indicate that the impact is incredibly severe. In fact, the only 'impact' listed in the impact section was the British PM having to change his plans. Also the article is barely more than a stub. Gödel2200 ( talk) 23:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support It's a common lead headline today: "Olympics sabotaged ... Hunt for Olympic saboteurs ... Far Left suspected ...". The disruption will continue throughout the weekend and its impact is countrywide -- much greater than some single accident such as the plane crash in Nepal. Andrew🐉( talk) 07:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Per Andrew and CaptainGalaxy. Centuries123 ( talk) 10:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Notable for sure, picked up a lot of coverage initially but doesn't rise to meet many of the secondary principles listed in WP:ITNSIGNIF in my opinion. Kcmastrpc ( talk) 12:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per above. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:27, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per previous comments on article quality Schwinnspeed ( talk) 02:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Olympic Opening Ceremony

Article:  2024 Summer Olympics ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Paris, the opening ceremony of the 2024 Summer Olympics begins. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open after an arson attack on French railways.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open.
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Opening ceremony isn't technically done yet, but I figure it's better to get a little ahead now that it's well underway. DecafPotato ( talk) 18:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Support but wait. This is certainly a event to report on, but we should wait until the grammatical errors get resolved. MetaTalks ( talk) 20:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
its technically "open" after Macron declared it open. MetaTalks ( talk) 21:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Support, notable and the articles are fine Personisinsterest ( talk) 22:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Support alternate blurb, if the arson attacks were connected to the Olympics Dyaquna ( talk) 23:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I just skimmed a bit of the article and it was nowhere near ready as I immediately noticed several tense and grammatical errors. The article seems to be full of plans which may or may not have actually gone to schedule and it has no reaction or reception section to provide an assessment of what actually happened. Also, as noted below, the news coverage today has focussed on security and sabotage issues such as 2024 France railway arson attack and that seems more interesting. The appalling weather might warrant some attention though. For example,

    Unfortunate that the pre filmed parts of this ceremony were done on a bright, clear day. It is making the jumps from live to video sections jarring in person and presumably on TV too. Rain hammering down now. Worried about the athletes! Three hours of this on a roofless boat and some of them are sleeveless. Going to be a shame to cancel the 100m final because the field was decimated by an outbreak of the sniffles.

I'm still watching and was quite curious about the way they presented "Imagine". I find that we have a remarkably detailed article about piano burning and didn't realise that was a thing. Was that supposed to be the Olympic flame?
And now there's a ghostly horse rider. Curiouser and curiouser... Andrew🐉( talk) 18:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I agree with Andrew that to post this without noting the arson attack just prior would be a problem. But that can be fixed in the blurb. However, the opening ceremony article is nowhere close for what we've seen in the past. If we are going to post that arson article, that also needs expansion. Finally, should the quality improvements delay posting the opening ceremony for some time, we still try to go ahead and post the Olympics to ongoing, along with Chronological summary of the 2024 Summer Olympics, but that latter article is mostly unsourced at this point, which is not good either. -- Masem ( t) 18:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    @ Masem and @ Andrew Davidson, I've added an alt blurb unbolding the opening ceremony article and adding the arson attack, would that be better? DecafPotato ( talk) 19:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    No, the event isn't over yet, we've yet to get the reactions and full news coverage and so it's too soon to finalise a blurb. And my objection was to the quality of the article not the blurb. The nominator hasn't made a single edit to the nominated article and so should be disqualified for a false start. Andrew🐉( talk) 19:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • I'm rather neutral on whether or not the arson needs to be included in the blurb- it's not as if this was a terrorist attack that led to deaths- but either way, the article is in pretty bad shape and is nowhere near ready to be posted. -- Kicking222 ( talk) 19:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose mentioning the arson. The connection to the Games seems dubious at best. DarkSide830 ( talk) 19:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support and altblurb2 - proposed new blurb without the arson attack, and without bolding the opening ceremony. This post should be about the start of the Paris Olympics. They've started now. Let's post. Main article is fine. The opening ceremony article can be filled up separately, but is not crucial - nobody participates in the Olympics just for the opening ceremony. Khuft ( talk) 20:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support alt2 Oppose placing the arson attack in the blurb, as it does not seem to have had any effects on the opening ceremony. Currently the article for the opening ceremony has major sourcing issues, but we can instead link to the overall article for the olympics. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support in principle, but oppose including the arson attacks in the blurb. The opening ceremony took place without any disruptions caused by those attacks (the rain made bigger problems than the attacks). That event should’ve been relevant had it directly affected this one, which is clearly not the case.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 21:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ALT2 but oppose on quality. I don't personally believe the arson attacks to be overly significant, and their effects on the games has been minimal outside of transportation delays. All of the said, the Opening Ceremony article is in brutal shape - multiple orange tags and nowhere near enough prose on the events. The Kip ( contribs) 22:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ALT2 and put it in ongoing when it reaches the bottom. ---  C& C ( Coffeeandcrumbs) 02:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • There are quite a few sections of tables that lack a single reference. Step hen 03:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    • I did actually look at this but saw that there are one or more references for those tables in the prose ahead of them (like with the venue section). It would be better if those sources could be repeated in the table header or otherwise some position closer to the tables to be clear where the info is coming from, but the sourcing is there. —  Masem ( t) 12:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Alt3 Opening article has too many problems so let's just not post it. Kcmastrpc ( talk) 12:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality issues (notwithstanding ITNR). Too many CN tags on it. The C of E God Save the King! ( talk) 12:53, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • support it is hugely IN THE NEWS. not to mention the controversy over the transgender stuff, but that's an aside. then the chronology can be in the ongoing. Sportsnut24 ( talk) 20:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Support, we've listed the Olympics and world cup several times in the past and there's plenty of coverage of it. No reason not to list it Desfuria ( talk) 23:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • I will note that I have already added the Olympics as an ongoing on a temporary basis (as that article is fine, see the ongoing nom below) while there's still debate on the blurb and the quality of the opening ceremonies (which has always been posted in the past, and has always been of high quality, I don't know why this is not at that point by this case). Should we post a blurb, then the ongoing should be temporarily removed then. -- Masem ( t) 23:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Question What needs doing at 2024 Summer Olympics opening ceremony to make it post-able? Kingsif ( talk) 03:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
The orange tags need to get resolved. Many statements and sections are missing sources. Natg 19 ( talk) 03:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
It pains me to say but Oppose. It should be ready by now, but surprisingly isn't. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:28, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Altblurb3 - let's not mention the Opening Ceremony then As it seems we won't be able to solve the issues with the opening ceremony article before this gets stale (and, let's face it, it's Monday now - the opening ceremony was on Friday), why not post just the Summer Olympics article itself? That one seems fine, as it's already featured on Ongoing. Khuft ( talk) 15:36, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose, this should've been posted but its too late now Personisinsterest ( talk) 15:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

July 25

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Science and technology


RD: Vikramabahu Karunaratne

Article:  Vikramabahu Karunaratne ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan politician, activist and scientist. Titanciwiki talk/ contrib 0:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose Some statements in the article lacking a source, also the infobox has the name of his father and mother but it isn't anywhere in the prose. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 20:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per MonarchOfTerror. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Martin Indyk

Article:  Martin Indyk ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Mooonswimmer 22:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose three cn tags. PrinceofPunjab TALK 11:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

pertinent to the ongoing news stuff. i dunno if you mention that on these things. Sportsnut24 ( talk) 20:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I'd be happy to give a few pointers if you clarify what it is you're confused about. Bremps ... 16:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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