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An editor has requested that Bruce Wayne (1989 film series character) be moved to Bruce Wayne (1989 film series), which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion.
An editor has requested that List of Korean films of 1919–1948 be moved to List of films produced in Korea under Japanese rule, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. toobigtokale ( talk) 20:03, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Having gone through these two categories, African films and African cinema, I feel the contents should both be put under one mother category...perhaps Category:African film and television? This would have all the African film and television content under one mother category for easy sorting and location of related articles. We're trying to integrate the https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/ to the WikiProject AfroCreatives, but it can only link to a single category. Linking it to either African films or African cinema would leave out a lot of articles that could worked on, hence my recommendation to have the put under a mother category. Ceslause ( talk) 22:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Is it ok to call a movie a "classic" in an encyclopedia as a factual statement? I have a problem with this, because to me it sounds like praise.
I've discussed this with a number of people and some make the claim, that you only need to be able to quote enough people who are saying that a movie is a classic, to call it a classic.
But wouldn't that be like saying a movie is "good", and providing "sources" for that claim? Since there is hardly anything that is liked by literally everyone, i think saying "this movie is a classic" should be avoided in favor of saying "this movie is (widely) considered a classic".
"It is considered a classic" is provable. "It is a classic" is not really provable.
In my view it is probably ok to use the world "classic" when referring to something that is not from the modern era. "Romeo and Juliet" for example.
Some people seem to be of the opinion, that the word "classic" just means that a movie is very influential. But then why not just say that instead? The movie "Chinatown" for example has 98% on Rotten Tomatoes which means there are critics who gave it a bad review. They would certainly agree that the movie has been influential, but i don't think they would call it a classic. They would agree that it is "widely considered a classic" though, because that is a fact.
Why? Because the word "classic" encompasses two things: First, the general status of a movie and second the perceived quality of a movie (by the one using the word). That's the way i see it. Some people don't seem to see it that way at all but i'm not sure why.
Would be happy to hear a few opinions on this. Thanks! Dornwald ( talk) 14:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a problem with a lot of articles of recent films having the exact same defined order of section and subsection headings, which is not community-endorsed. That particular defined order is due to certain editors persistently going around and applying such changes. This has led other editors to incorrectly assume that this is the standard and that we need to follow that very specific structure every time.
The order should depend on the content available for that topic, and I have noticed a lot of skinny "Release" sections that are separate from any box office content, and MOS:OVERSECTION says, "Very short sections and subsections clutter an article with headings and inhibit the flow of the prose." For most films, this means that just the film's release date is covered in one section, and the box office figures are covered in another section. Where the coverage is minimal, it is completely possible and reasonable to have that coverage together in a fuller section. Claiming that the separation is "always" done elsewhere is not a reason in itself. I encourage editors to structure articles based on the topic's content and not on a fake standard. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 14:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
For film pages, I think it is WP:COAT to create a soundtrack section that includes both information boxes and track listings (just a section of prose that provides an overview and anything of note). I see this similar to why we don't put track listings on musician pages. MOS:FILMMUSIC is a little confusing for me as it says that track listings for prerecorded songs can be made but that film scores cannot. Yes, I understand the difference but still believe track listings and information boxes are COAT as they should be presented in a separate page if they are notable and do not contribute anything of benefit to the film page. I searched and found a few discussions about this but wondering if there is a discussion that found consensus for the "current" MOS or if anyone feels this should be re-visited. No issues either way but would like clarification for future editing. CNMall41 ( talk) 19:47, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Aadujeevitham (film)#Requested move 29 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 15:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Solaris (1972 film) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (trout me!) 02:12, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I'm hoping to get some peer review for one section of an article I'm working on. I'm posting here instead of going through the formal peer review process because I only need help with one section, not the entire article. The section in question is "Cultural impact."
I've been looking at WP essays and how-to pages about how to write a cultural impact section, but I've learned all I can from those pages at this point, and now I need an actual person to look at the section and give feedback.
I've been editing the entire page a lot, but have hardly touched that section because I'm not sure what it needs. Therefore, most of the content in the section was created before I started editing the page. I've done a little trimming, but that's it. I'm aware a few of the segments are unsourced. Wafflewombat ( talk) 06:49, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
treat each aspect with a weight proportional to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject. TompaDompa ( talk) 19:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
discern between important information and trivia—the sources do that for us. This is admittedly oversimplifying things as there is a bit more to it than that, but merely identifying quality sources on the topic and covering the same things as they do in roughly the same WP:PROPORTION will get you most of the way there. If you have already located quality sources in the course of working on other parts of the article, I would encourage you to give it a shot by removing the entirety of the current section and starting over. It's not like it can get much worse than it currently is. TompaDompa ( talk) 10:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Can someone tell me if ScreenCrush is a reliable source? The first button at the top of the website says "Win Cash" which is a red flag for me. I removed a sentence citing a ScreenCrush article on a page I'm editing, but someone else reverted my edit because that particular article was written by Matt Singer, who is apparently a credible film critic. Wafflewombat ( talk) 07:34, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello. Back in December 2023, there was a brief discussion on Template talk:Infobox person § Education and alma mater parameters regarding the usage of the alma mater and education parameters in certain film-related articles such as actors, filmmakers and entertainers.
Given that, as well as the fact that we shouldn't use both parameters simultaneously as per Template:Infobox person, I have a general question for the other project members: which parameter(s) should we use for actors/filmmakers, if relevant? Also, should we include all colleges/universities they attended? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 20:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Superman (1978 film) § Disputed – Discuss. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, just calling attention to user:181.2.127.197's edits. User is currently editing many film articles. Removing sources and tweaking language. I am doing some anti-vandalism work, and it is a little difficult to discern if the edits are constructive to movie-based articles. Thought I could use an extra set of eyes on the user's contributions. Thanks in advance! Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 02:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
I much prefer the A-Z list in List of American films of 1967 compared to what has been done to List of American films of 1970 onwards with the massive bloated cast lists which makes it difficult to find films. I'm going to restore them to the simple A-Z format rather than release date.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:22, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
At List of cult films, there is a discussion which may be of interest to this WikiProject. Editors are coming up with ideas about refining the selection criteria. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments to Talk:List of cult films § List criteria. Thank you.— Alalch E. 23:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion to move The Grudge (2020 film) to The Grudge (2019 film). The discussion can be found here: Talk:The Grudge (2020 film) § Requested move 27 March 2024. Thanks, Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 22:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Blockbuster_(entertainment)#Intellectual_blockbuster. This looks like a mix of low-quality sourcing and synthesis to me. I really don't care about the article enough to hash it out with someone determined to insert the material because it's not in great shape to begin with. If it really is a thing the sourcing needs to be much better IMO. Betty Logan ( talk) 20:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Wanted to raise an issue for discussion, around Category:Independent film stubs and its associated template {{ indie-film-stub}}.
Obviously, the main purpose of stub categories is to facilitate collaboration, by grouping articles on a status that represents a community of collaborators, so that the articles can be expanded to the point of not needing to be templated or categorized as stubs anymore — but I question whether "indie film" actually represents a useful basis for such collaboration. There isn't really any discernible community of editors who specialize broadly in "indie film" irrespective of national borders — many editors associated with this project know a thing or two about the indie film scenes of a couple of countries, but very few have any overarching worldwide expertise. Like, I'm obviously one of the go-to guys for Canadian and/or LGBTQ independent films, but my point of expertise has far less to do with "independent" and more to do with "Canadian and/or LGBTQ". So I question whether a single transnational "indie film stubs" category that groups independent films together regardless of their country of origin is actually serving any useful collaborative purpose — because people's areas of expertise, for the purposes of collaborability, are generally going to converge around countries and genres, rather than around "indie" status per se.
Furthermore, even after reviewing just 30 articles in that category with about 180 left to go, I've already found a lot of films that were stub-templated only for their indie status, and not at all for any combination whatsoever of decade, genre and/or nationality — and even worse, they were sometimes (though thankfully not always) also missing any mainspace categories for genre or nationality. But again, editors' ability to collaborate is going to cut on countries and/or genres, meaning that stub-tagging films for indieness while eliding stub tags for genre or nationality is isolating those films from the more useful groupings.
I do plan to go through the entire category to make sure each film in it also has appropriate nationality-based stub tags and categories added if necessary, but I wanted to ask if other editors here believe the "indie-stub" tag and category are actually useful in ways I'm not seeing, or should be taken to CFD. Bearcat ( talk) 22:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:? (film)#Requested move 9 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 ( talk) 23:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
An IP has modified several articles to change Special Effects to Visual Effects. I don't think is necessarily apt in all cases but I was unaware special and visual are two different areas, with special relating to practical and visual to more image trickery and CGI. Is there a general term that can be used instead? Naming a section "Effects" seems wrong but maybe it's right? Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 08:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:MonsterVerse#Requested move 31 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 10:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
I was just made aware of Category:Films about fictional presidents of the United States being used on a film in which I don't think the category is applicable. Given it's title and the heading used at the cat, should this category include any film which features fictional presidents, even if they aren't the major character focus of the film such as X2 (film), or should it only include films in which they are the sole/major focus of the film such as Air Force One (film)? If the former, then perhaps the cat should not use "about" in its title but rather "featuring". - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
What do you think about the practice of using "upcoming" in a film's lead intro only until the film has premiered? As opposed to leaving it in until films are theatrically released? I believe the former practice is misleading to readers. The general public and sources view films as upcoming until they're released in theaters to the general public. I think that if a lead intro reads "is a 2024 film", it implies that the film was released. There are always films that are scheduled to be theatrically released months from their premiere date. Lapadite ( talk) 10:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Dr. Strangelove § What is the problem with my edit? You can't explain the reason?. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
The Amazon MGM Studios Distribution division was said to be handling distribution for all of Amazon MGM's subsidiaries. However, the full name is almost never used anywhere (ex. credits, reviews, etc.); it's always simply Amazon MGM Studios. I always figured we'd add "Distribution" when referring to in relation of such (like the "distributed by" section of an infobox), and not include it for everything else. However, it seems to just be the latter regardless of context. Should we add "Disribution" when necessary, or just leave it as is? IAmNMFlores ( talk) 18:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
I stumbled upon this today and had never encountered such a thing before on a director's biography page. The table was added back in 2013. Is this an accepted practice on WP? I've tried to do a bit of research on it and can't find anything definitive, other than WP guidelines that state RT scores can be mentioned in the reception section of a specific film, and that they should be used with caution and explained well in the prose. Thoughts?— The Keymaster ( talk) 02:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Caution should be exercised when using aggregator scores that combine original and later dated reviews", that's just saying that using Rotten Tomatoes to describe the critical consensus of The Thing (1982) may need explanation. Rotten Tomatoes' critical consensus in 2024 is not the same reception that the film received on release. But if you just want a quick rating for a film, who really cares? You want to know what the overall reception is right now, not what it was in 1982. But if you don't like it, why not just post to the article's talk page and see what other people think? NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 03:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
But if you don't like it, why not just post to the article's talk page and see what other people think?" Because no one ever responds to talk page messages. At least in my experience. In fact I've been specifically told on numerous occasions to take concerns to Wikiproject talk pages instead. Hence my post here. But this doesn't really answer my question. I'm asking if it's customary/acceptable or even preferable to have filmography tables with RT ratings on a director's page, because I had never seen that before today.— The Keymaster ( talk) 05:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
It's beneficial in a film series article when it's supplementary to the prose in a reception section, serving as a quick glance at how reception changed for the series. For an individual's article, I think having a separate table for RT & MC scores is generally unnecessary and redundant. It repeats the filmography (in which a column for RT & MC can be added if that's preferred, or both can be used as references); the reception for each film should already be mentioned in the career section; and the links to someone's filmography on the RT and MC websites can be added to the external links section. The MOS advises against overusing tables when prose would suffice (or, in this case, an external link too). I think, for most cases, there isn't a benefit to including another table of an individual's filmography just to list RT & MC scores. Lapadite ( talk) 08:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
A gentle reminder that this falls under the purview of this project. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 20:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Michael Myers (Halloween) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. 🥒 Greenish Pickle!🥒 ( 🔔) 03:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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An editor has requested that Bruce Wayne (1989 film series character) be moved to Bruce Wayne (1989 film series), which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion.
An editor has requested that List of Korean films of 1919–1948 be moved to List of films produced in Korea under Japanese rule, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. toobigtokale ( talk) 20:03, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Having gone through these two categories, African films and African cinema, I feel the contents should both be put under one mother category...perhaps Category:African film and television? This would have all the African film and television content under one mother category for easy sorting and location of related articles. We're trying to integrate the https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/ to the WikiProject AfroCreatives, but it can only link to a single category. Linking it to either African films or African cinema would leave out a lot of articles that could worked on, hence my recommendation to have the put under a mother category. Ceslause ( talk) 22:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Is it ok to call a movie a "classic" in an encyclopedia as a factual statement? I have a problem with this, because to me it sounds like praise.
I've discussed this with a number of people and some make the claim, that you only need to be able to quote enough people who are saying that a movie is a classic, to call it a classic.
But wouldn't that be like saying a movie is "good", and providing "sources" for that claim? Since there is hardly anything that is liked by literally everyone, i think saying "this movie is a classic" should be avoided in favor of saying "this movie is (widely) considered a classic".
"It is considered a classic" is provable. "It is a classic" is not really provable.
In my view it is probably ok to use the world "classic" when referring to something that is not from the modern era. "Romeo and Juliet" for example.
Some people seem to be of the opinion, that the word "classic" just means that a movie is very influential. But then why not just say that instead? The movie "Chinatown" for example has 98% on Rotten Tomatoes which means there are critics who gave it a bad review. They would certainly agree that the movie has been influential, but i don't think they would call it a classic. They would agree that it is "widely considered a classic" though, because that is a fact.
Why? Because the word "classic" encompasses two things: First, the general status of a movie and second the perceived quality of a movie (by the one using the word). That's the way i see it. Some people don't seem to see it that way at all but i'm not sure why.
Would be happy to hear a few opinions on this. Thanks! Dornwald ( talk) 14:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a problem with a lot of articles of recent films having the exact same defined order of section and subsection headings, which is not community-endorsed. That particular defined order is due to certain editors persistently going around and applying such changes. This has led other editors to incorrectly assume that this is the standard and that we need to follow that very specific structure every time.
The order should depend on the content available for that topic, and I have noticed a lot of skinny "Release" sections that are separate from any box office content, and MOS:OVERSECTION says, "Very short sections and subsections clutter an article with headings and inhibit the flow of the prose." For most films, this means that just the film's release date is covered in one section, and the box office figures are covered in another section. Where the coverage is minimal, it is completely possible and reasonable to have that coverage together in a fuller section. Claiming that the separation is "always" done elsewhere is not a reason in itself. I encourage editors to structure articles based on the topic's content and not on a fake standard. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 14:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
For film pages, I think it is WP:COAT to create a soundtrack section that includes both information boxes and track listings (just a section of prose that provides an overview and anything of note). I see this similar to why we don't put track listings on musician pages. MOS:FILMMUSIC is a little confusing for me as it says that track listings for prerecorded songs can be made but that film scores cannot. Yes, I understand the difference but still believe track listings and information boxes are COAT as they should be presented in a separate page if they are notable and do not contribute anything of benefit to the film page. I searched and found a few discussions about this but wondering if there is a discussion that found consensus for the "current" MOS or if anyone feels this should be re-visited. No issues either way but would like clarification for future editing. CNMall41 ( talk) 19:47, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Aadujeevitham (film)#Requested move 29 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 15:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Solaris (1972 film) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (trout me!) 02:12, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I'm hoping to get some peer review for one section of an article I'm working on. I'm posting here instead of going through the formal peer review process because I only need help with one section, not the entire article. The section in question is "Cultural impact."
I've been looking at WP essays and how-to pages about how to write a cultural impact section, but I've learned all I can from those pages at this point, and now I need an actual person to look at the section and give feedback.
I've been editing the entire page a lot, but have hardly touched that section because I'm not sure what it needs. Therefore, most of the content in the section was created before I started editing the page. I've done a little trimming, but that's it. I'm aware a few of the segments are unsourced. Wafflewombat ( talk) 06:49, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
treat each aspect with a weight proportional to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject. TompaDompa ( talk) 19:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
discern between important information and trivia—the sources do that for us. This is admittedly oversimplifying things as there is a bit more to it than that, but merely identifying quality sources on the topic and covering the same things as they do in roughly the same WP:PROPORTION will get you most of the way there. If you have already located quality sources in the course of working on other parts of the article, I would encourage you to give it a shot by removing the entirety of the current section and starting over. It's not like it can get much worse than it currently is. TompaDompa ( talk) 10:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Can someone tell me if ScreenCrush is a reliable source? The first button at the top of the website says "Win Cash" which is a red flag for me. I removed a sentence citing a ScreenCrush article on a page I'm editing, but someone else reverted my edit because that particular article was written by Matt Singer, who is apparently a credible film critic. Wafflewombat ( talk) 07:34, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello. Back in December 2023, there was a brief discussion on Template talk:Infobox person § Education and alma mater parameters regarding the usage of the alma mater and education parameters in certain film-related articles such as actors, filmmakers and entertainers.
Given that, as well as the fact that we shouldn't use both parameters simultaneously as per Template:Infobox person, I have a general question for the other project members: which parameter(s) should we use for actors/filmmakers, if relevant? Also, should we include all colleges/universities they attended? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 20:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Superman (1978 film) § Disputed – Discuss. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, just calling attention to user:181.2.127.197's edits. User is currently editing many film articles. Removing sources and tweaking language. I am doing some anti-vandalism work, and it is a little difficult to discern if the edits are constructive to movie-based articles. Thought I could use an extra set of eyes on the user's contributions. Thanks in advance! Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 02:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
I much prefer the A-Z list in List of American films of 1967 compared to what has been done to List of American films of 1970 onwards with the massive bloated cast lists which makes it difficult to find films. I'm going to restore them to the simple A-Z format rather than release date.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:22, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
At List of cult films, there is a discussion which may be of interest to this WikiProject. Editors are coming up with ideas about refining the selection criteria. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments to Talk:List of cult films § List criteria. Thank you.— Alalch E. 23:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion to move The Grudge (2020 film) to The Grudge (2019 film). The discussion can be found here: Talk:The Grudge (2020 film) § Requested move 27 March 2024. Thanks, Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 22:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Blockbuster_(entertainment)#Intellectual_blockbuster. This looks like a mix of low-quality sourcing and synthesis to me. I really don't care about the article enough to hash it out with someone determined to insert the material because it's not in great shape to begin with. If it really is a thing the sourcing needs to be much better IMO. Betty Logan ( talk) 20:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Wanted to raise an issue for discussion, around Category:Independent film stubs and its associated template {{ indie-film-stub}}.
Obviously, the main purpose of stub categories is to facilitate collaboration, by grouping articles on a status that represents a community of collaborators, so that the articles can be expanded to the point of not needing to be templated or categorized as stubs anymore — but I question whether "indie film" actually represents a useful basis for such collaboration. There isn't really any discernible community of editors who specialize broadly in "indie film" irrespective of national borders — many editors associated with this project know a thing or two about the indie film scenes of a couple of countries, but very few have any overarching worldwide expertise. Like, I'm obviously one of the go-to guys for Canadian and/or LGBTQ independent films, but my point of expertise has far less to do with "independent" and more to do with "Canadian and/or LGBTQ". So I question whether a single transnational "indie film stubs" category that groups independent films together regardless of their country of origin is actually serving any useful collaborative purpose — because people's areas of expertise, for the purposes of collaborability, are generally going to converge around countries and genres, rather than around "indie" status per se.
Furthermore, even after reviewing just 30 articles in that category with about 180 left to go, I've already found a lot of films that were stub-templated only for their indie status, and not at all for any combination whatsoever of decade, genre and/or nationality — and even worse, they were sometimes (though thankfully not always) also missing any mainspace categories for genre or nationality. But again, editors' ability to collaborate is going to cut on countries and/or genres, meaning that stub-tagging films for indieness while eliding stub tags for genre or nationality is isolating those films from the more useful groupings.
I do plan to go through the entire category to make sure each film in it also has appropriate nationality-based stub tags and categories added if necessary, but I wanted to ask if other editors here believe the "indie-stub" tag and category are actually useful in ways I'm not seeing, or should be taken to CFD. Bearcat ( talk) 22:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:? (film)#Requested move 9 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 ( talk) 23:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
An IP has modified several articles to change Special Effects to Visual Effects. I don't think is necessarily apt in all cases but I was unaware special and visual are two different areas, with special relating to practical and visual to more image trickery and CGI. Is there a general term that can be used instead? Naming a section "Effects" seems wrong but maybe it's right? Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 08:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:MonsterVerse#Requested move 31 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 10:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
I was just made aware of Category:Films about fictional presidents of the United States being used on a film in which I don't think the category is applicable. Given it's title and the heading used at the cat, should this category include any film which features fictional presidents, even if they aren't the major character focus of the film such as X2 (film), or should it only include films in which they are the sole/major focus of the film such as Air Force One (film)? If the former, then perhaps the cat should not use "about" in its title but rather "featuring". - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
What do you think about the practice of using "upcoming" in a film's lead intro only until the film has premiered? As opposed to leaving it in until films are theatrically released? I believe the former practice is misleading to readers. The general public and sources view films as upcoming until they're released in theaters to the general public. I think that if a lead intro reads "is a 2024 film", it implies that the film was released. There are always films that are scheduled to be theatrically released months from their premiere date. Lapadite ( talk) 10:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Dr. Strangelove § What is the problem with my edit? You can't explain the reason?. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
The Amazon MGM Studios Distribution division was said to be handling distribution for all of Amazon MGM's subsidiaries. However, the full name is almost never used anywhere (ex. credits, reviews, etc.); it's always simply Amazon MGM Studios. I always figured we'd add "Distribution" when referring to in relation of such (like the "distributed by" section of an infobox), and not include it for everything else. However, it seems to just be the latter regardless of context. Should we add "Disribution" when necessary, or just leave it as is? IAmNMFlores ( talk) 18:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
I stumbled upon this today and had never encountered such a thing before on a director's biography page. The table was added back in 2013. Is this an accepted practice on WP? I've tried to do a bit of research on it and can't find anything definitive, other than WP guidelines that state RT scores can be mentioned in the reception section of a specific film, and that they should be used with caution and explained well in the prose. Thoughts?— The Keymaster ( talk) 02:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Caution should be exercised when using aggregator scores that combine original and later dated reviews", that's just saying that using Rotten Tomatoes to describe the critical consensus of The Thing (1982) may need explanation. Rotten Tomatoes' critical consensus in 2024 is not the same reception that the film received on release. But if you just want a quick rating for a film, who really cares? You want to know what the overall reception is right now, not what it was in 1982. But if you don't like it, why not just post to the article's talk page and see what other people think? NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 03:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
But if you don't like it, why not just post to the article's talk page and see what other people think?" Because no one ever responds to talk page messages. At least in my experience. In fact I've been specifically told on numerous occasions to take concerns to Wikiproject talk pages instead. Hence my post here. But this doesn't really answer my question. I'm asking if it's customary/acceptable or even preferable to have filmography tables with RT ratings on a director's page, because I had never seen that before today.— The Keymaster ( talk) 05:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
It's beneficial in a film series article when it's supplementary to the prose in a reception section, serving as a quick glance at how reception changed for the series. For an individual's article, I think having a separate table for RT & MC scores is generally unnecessary and redundant. It repeats the filmography (in which a column for RT & MC can be added if that's preferred, or both can be used as references); the reception for each film should already be mentioned in the career section; and the links to someone's filmography on the RT and MC websites can be added to the external links section. The MOS advises against overusing tables when prose would suffice (or, in this case, an external link too). I think, for most cases, there isn't a benefit to including another table of an individual's filmography just to list RT & MC scores. Lapadite ( talk) 08:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
A gentle reminder that this falls under the purview of this project. Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 20:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Michael Myers (Halloween) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. 🥒 Greenish Pickle!🥒 ( 🔔) 03:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)