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When I click on 'Save Page' button, it does strange, I get this message that saids
Preview
Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in.
WTH is that, I hate that freaking message, It's too CCCCCCCOOOOORRRNNNYYY! I'm sorry I have to say it. Please get rid of this dumb-stupid-crude-freakin-unexpected message!
I disagree when you said the words "I'm sorry".
It is a little corny, and technically Spencer's right - saying sorry in those circumstances isn't entirely accurate, since that implies that some human agency saw what was happening. A better message would probably simply say "We apologise for not being able to process your..." (which doesn't imply human intervention) and also explaining that re-saving will usually fix the problem. Grutness... wha? 00:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I thought some people might be interested in Jimbo's wheel war and his subsequent comment about it. ‣ᓛᖁ ᑐ 03:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure Jimbo is the law on Wikipedia. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 07:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I was just wondering why Wikipedia Statistics hasn't been updated since December 10th? With such an important milestone surely only hours away, I was rather curious!
-- James 19:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I have made an modification of {{ tif}}. This should be able to work on any page.
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exists|Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)|then=[[Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)]] exists|else=nothing here to see}}
gives: {{exists|Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)|then=[[Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)]] exists|else=nothing here to see}} →
Aza
Toth
00:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I can't see where to take this issue, so I'm bringing it up here. If anyone can suggest a more appropriate place, either in en: or commons:, let me know where to take it. Image:028fi.jpg (on Commons) was recently tagged for lack of authorship information, etc. It is an obviously contemporaneous portrait of Ferdinand and Isabel of Spain, who reigned 500 years ago. Therefore, regardless of what individual painted it, which may or may not be known, it is clearly public domain. Yet it was removed from Pope Alexander VI as an unsourced image and, I suppose, is in danger of being deleted outright. This strikes me as ridiculous. Clearly there is no copyright problem here: there is no such thing as a copyrighted 500-year-old work. This is carrying the letter of our rules on provenance to the point of absurdity. Is there something we can do to prevent the deletion of such an image? And is there something we can do to avoid having to fight about this sort of silliness in the future? - Jmabel | Talk 18:24, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Have administrators had a look at Hobart Freeman? It does not seem to be an objective report. Is Wikipedia a suitable place to put articles justifying a religious group? 金 (Kim) 07:56, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I have recently started the Wikipedia Happy Birthday Association, or the "Birthday Committee," which wishes people happy birthday using the listing found on the MetaWiki. I'm having trouble getting other people to join. Would anybody care to join by adding their name to the list found in the article here at Wikipedia:Birthday Committee and notifying me that you have joined? JaredW! 12:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Is there a semi-official wikipedia IRC channel and/or server? 'Net 19:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
i saw User:Michael Snow deleted the above mentioned list (+ a lot of others!) on feb. 16:
even if in the comments there was Girolamo Savonarola's and mine:
the arguments for me:
so i do not see any copyvio problem, as for the majority of the ones which has been deleted, and i think this is an exagerated interpretation of it... what is the policy today? kernitou talk 09:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
the text can be seen: User:Kernitou/Vanity Fair’s 50 greatest films of all time
Looks like we just hit one million registered users... still a few thousand articles to go until that hits the million mark. *Dan T.* 02:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I've been doing some work on the Porcelain article, which includes a fair amount on Chinese porcelain. What I'd like to do now is to hack out the Chinese porcelain section and post it as a new article Chinese porcelain. Most of the words in the existing Porcelain article seem to be mine, but I don't want to tread on too many toes here. I've asked for opinions on the Talk:Porcelain page, but have received no comments yet. How should I proceed? All comments would be appreciated. Regards, Nick.-- Nick 16:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help Guys, this is what I'll do if no one objects before tomorrow. Regards, Nick. Nick 11:34, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I want to know if there is any rule about titling articles that are about things with on Wheels in their name to clarify that the titles are serious and not titles made by Willy's page moves. Georgia guy 00:32, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
There are many musical articles here where I can not view a # (sharp) or b (flat); I see a rectangular box. I use Win 98 with the latest version of IE. The same 'problem' exists for me when I view the same pages from a library computer. These computers use Windows XP and are brand new. I've set my own computer to ... View \ Encoding \ Unicode (UTF-8) and still do not see # and b in many articles.
One such article where I only view rectangles in place of # or b is the Stradella bass system section of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accordion
I welcome any suggestions, solutions or work arounds. Thanks, Dave Horne Davehorne 12:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I installed the latest version of Mozilla Firefox and instead of seeing rectangles, I now see question marks. I welcome any suggestions. Feel free to contact me personally. davehorne@home.nl Davehorne 00:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
♭
), so even IE should handle it.
Unicode and HTML suggests "you may need to install one or more large multilingual fonts, like
Code2000" to get some things to display. -
R. S. Shaw
08:54, 28 February 2006 (UTC)I installed Code2000, code2001, and code2002 ... same problem. The code2000 (the largest file of the three) caused IE to crash. It could have been the combination of having all three in my Fonts dir, but I deleted them just the same. I'm back to where I started. I should also add that the new computers at my local library (Windows XP) also have the same viewing problem I have. I am open to all suggestions. Feel free to contact me privately. Thanks! Davehorne 17:44, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way to find out which .en article links to the most non-English Wikipedia articles? (In the "in other languages" toolbox on the left-hand side, I mean). I've found several articles that link to nearly 100 other articles, but there must be articles that exist in more languages than that. What about the article Wikipedia? That probably exists in nearly every language's incarnation of Wikipedia, but it's not the most-linked article I've seen.
Can anybody find an article with more other-language links than India?
(Comparing the number of other-language links in different articles is sort of fun. The Beatles aren't more popular than Jesus, but they are about as popular as God.) -- Mr. Billion 10:19, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that the article Lilian Cristina Aya Ramirez—which gets the bulk of its content from [5] on Reconoselos.com—turns Wikipedia into an echo chamber for an attack site. I have raised the issue there, but it is not exactly a heavily watched article. At the moment I've slapped an {{ NPOV}} tag on it, but the general pattern concerns me: the mere fact that accusations are made against a relatively minor figure in the Venezuelan government does not seem to me like a reason to reprint those accusations without comment and with only a single source; reproducing their weasely citation ("According to the Venezuelan police archives", "Seemingly") and uncited claims ("there were official 'inverventions'") does not seem to me to do anyone any favors. - Jmabel | Talk 01:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Is it appropriate that I add to an article (i.e., Mens High Hurdles) a link to a compendium of statistics about the subject of that article (i.e., Mens High Hurdle Statistics) when the compendium is copyrighted and has advertising? R124c41 21:12, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Category:White rappers, Category:Female rappers, List of white rappers, List of female rappers. Why should we be categorizing rappers by race and gender, when they are in the minority?-- Urthogie 14:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Check it out -- the article List of sets of unrelated songs with identical titles lists TEN different songs called "Tonight", not one of which is the song from West Side Story (the best-known one)! Wiwaxia 07:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
On two of the Firefox pages on mozilla.org, Wikipedia is described as "The incredible free encyclopedia." [6] [7] I see what concept they're trying to convey, but I don't feel that "incredible" is quite the right word to use to describe a project for which credibility is a major focus. I emailed webmaster@mozilla.org a few weeks ago to ask that the word be changed, but I've gotten no response. Anybody here affiliated with mozilla.org, could you flag the right person about this? - Brian Kendig 18:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Triumph of the Will has a gallery of fair use pictures. There was a notice at the bottom of the article before it was featured on the main page asking readers to view Image talk:1936NurembergRally.jpg and the article talk for a discussion of the various images' copyrights, which appeared to imply the article's images are PD -- a rather poor excuse for not just tagging them as such and uploading them to Commons, which is for galleries (Wikipedia is not for galleries of images). However, the article talk only stated:
The image talk page however, had the input of someone from the German Wikipedia, who stated:
Template talk:PD-Germany, which was cited by the discussion as evidence that the image was PD, has a notice at the bottom stating that the template was TfDed due to terribly inappropriate wording, and this was only rectified by altering the template's text. Furthermore, Image:1936NurembergRally.jpg is not even used in Triumph of the Will. From this, I believe we should assume the images are not PD, as there are very stringent laws pertaining to public domain images, especially in Germany. (There was a discussion on IRC earlier about whether the images are PD -- a British statute was cited, which stated that all German works imported into Britain between 1939 and 1951 were in the public domain, but the film was first released in Germany in 1935. Furthermore, as Wikipedia is hosted in the United States and the Wikimedia Foundation is based in Florida, I believe only United States law applies to it.)
Surprisingly, this troubling issue of fair use/weak claims of public domain, was not addressed by the FAC which passed this article. When it was first suggested for the main page, I brought this issue up. The article was nevertheless slated for the main page. Indignant, I complained in more detail on the TFA talk, and on the article talk. Now today, lo and behold, the article is on the main page, with my complaint having been totally ignored! Since apparently people think this can be just brushed aside nonchalantly because, y'know, them Nazis ain't ever gonna' sue nobody for using their pictures, I've made this excruciatingly detailed and long comment, and I will cross-post it to wherever I feel relevant. See also Wikipedia:Fair_use_review#Images. Yes, I know, some will scream m:Avoid copyright paranoia. However, we have insisted on removing fair use images from people's talk pages, even though there is a zero chance of being sued for their use (really, will the US Democratic Party sue us for using their logo in a userbox?), so why should we brush this off when an article supposed to be our best work and appearing on our gateway to the world so blatantly violates the provisions of fair use and/or the definition of a public domain image? Johnleemk | Talk 15:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Are advertisements inevitable seeing as how WP is growing in popularity? Is there some other plan to pay for these costs? I don't think fundraisers will be enough. Forgive me if this the wrong place to put this in. Gflores Talk 02:37, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
One little box on the main page. -- Banana04131 00:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
There appears to be an individual article for every single episode of the original telvision series The Twilight Zone. These articles are largely without any content except for a brief synopsis and a few production notes. Is this wise?
I'm taking this to the Pump because I suspect there may be other series treated in like fashion. Is there a distinct article for every episode of Green Acres and Three's Company? If so, is this wise?
For me, it's a stretch to mention some television series at all; but I wouldn't throw them out. It's going pretty far in my book to list a synopsis of every single episode; but if all such were in a single article I suppose I wouldn't object. But I see no value in endless multiplication of pages. We have over a million pages; how many of them are this sort of trivium?
Excellent stuff from the young Wikipedians. Who is the oldest Wikipedian? -- Bduke 11:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Who is the youngest Wikipedian we have? The the youngest admin, the youngest bureaucrat the youngest user, it would be interesting to know all of this-- M Johnson ( talk • contribs) 04:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
The youngest consistent user I have come accross is a young man named Aidan, who asks generally very intelligent questions on the reference desk. He always signs as Aidan, age 8. Though I don't think he has an account. I'm guessing younger have edited, but that's the youngest I've come across much. - Taxman Talk 18:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
User:Aleksei is 10 years old, and is able to edit with an acccount only by virtue of Wikipedia requiring no personal information to register. Also, User:SushiGeek a/k/a User:WikiFanatic became an admin when he was 12. Ashibaka tock 04:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Template messages/Media namespace is on second relist now, please comment so that can be any consensus, see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Template messages/Media namespace → Aza Toth 23:27, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm new here! As you can see, i am interested in oh so many subjects but I have been especially interested in the Norman conquest of Ireland and the origins of the Cambrian Normans so i propose an article again. I just read an article on modern Lords of Ireland in the Telegraph and it was factually incorrect! Newsgirl 11:50, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
What does a history animation tool do? CG 19:19, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Would someone kindly advise on what fonts to acquire (and where to acquire) in order to properly view Chinese and Japanese characters?
I've been wracking my brains for a good place to ask, and I figure this is the best place to do so. I'm trying to find a good article that's already an FA that hasn't already been listed on the Main Page to list on there on 1 April, 2006. I had hoped to bring an unusual article up to FA status, but I think that since the FA process takes a while, that would be unlikely. A better solution would be to list an already-FA article on the Main Page.
So my question is, what do you think are appropriate articles that are already FA, but haven't been listed on the Main Page yet? These articles should be unusual. One suggestion I saw on Wikipedia talk:Tomorrow's featured article suggests that Read my lips: no new taxes might be a good article. Any other suggestions? Thanks, -- D e athphoenix ʕ 19:08, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if this has been noted elsewhere, but I recently noticed that Yahoo! has a chart of the most popular searches that is updated 5 times a week and Wikipedia is currently one of the more popular items (#7). The FAQs explain their method (e.g. filtering).-- GregRM 15:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
pic Apple should be paying you.
Lotsofissues 03:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I have created two new articles: representative assembly and Delaval. They are embryonic. I propose to add to them in due course. Tell me what you think.
AWhiteC 00:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
So far, so good. Keep editing. Smiles, Durova 01:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
The title of each article includes "- Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia". This is too long. It could be shortened to just "- Wikipedia". — Masatran 06:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
What program do I use for screenshots?-- Tdxi a ng 陈 鼎 翔 (Talk) Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 04:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Not a list, as discussed above but Mars photos is an odd sort of gallery. Should this exist? Or maybe exist only on Wikicommons? Rmhermen 21:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I just came across Portal:Test, and its original location Portal:Topic. Are these still needed for anything, or are they left over from when portals where introduced? -- W( t) 15:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
A few weeks ago while disambiguating some links, I ran across and a set of pages each one about a ring of saturn ( A Ring, B Ring, D Ring, etc.) I merged them, but little did I know that I had stumbled into an astronomical catalog: List of geological features on Mercury, List of craters on Mercury, List of periodic comets, List of non-periodic comets, List of craters on Mars, List of features on Phobos and Deimos, List of geological features on 433 Eros, List of geological features on 243 Ida and Dactyl, Meanings of asteroid names (1-500), List of asteroids named after places, and on and on it goes (for some more see Category:Surface feature nomenclature of solar system bodies but I don't know if there's a "top level" page). As lists maybe they aren't so bad -- but what really distubs me is all the redlinks on each page which suggests that more pages are coming "to fill it out". This all seems to me to run afoul of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. What do you all think? Ewlyahoocom 14:58, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Do we have any idea of how many pages we're even talking about? The set of pages List of asteroids/1–1000 ... List of asteroids/119001–120000 alone makes me a little nervous (complete(?) list at List of asteroids). Ewlyahoocom 17:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
So I ask the main editors: are you willing to move these pages/have these pages moved to Wikisource? (I had wrongly assumed that The Singing Badger was the project leader. I've since invited the 2 or 3 other editors that seem to have had a hand in creating these lists and pages but if I've missed anyone please invite them to this discussion.) Ewlyahoocom 08:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Lately, when I enter Wikipedia pages logged-in, it just happens that I get a message about some problem that allows the page to open slowly, asking me whether I would like to abort. Any way, besides logging off, that can keep this from happening in the future?? 66.32.191.204 21:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC) (Note that this is User:Georgia guy not logged in for convenience when it comes to this.)
Has anyone else noticed that our articles about formal are about mathematics and computer science, when the average user is probably going to be looking for formal/informal speech/behaviour/dress/etc. in the etiquette sense? The formal article sums this up in two sentences hidden in the "Other examples" section: " Formal occasions such as a formal dinner party or high tea might require one to wear formal attire such as an evening gown or tuxedo. An example is Formal Hall." and "As an adjective, formal means being in accord with established forms (this links to the article on form - nothing to do with established forms) or the antonym of informal (redirects to computer science article) (or casual)." In fact, the casual and formal wear articles are the only two I could find referring to the common etiquette usage of 'formal' at all! Nothing on formal speech or behaviour or anything! Any ideas? + Hexagon1 ( talk) 13:20, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
What is the policy about adding external links to an article? I have read that an externally-linked site should have minimal advertising and a minimal profit-oriented presentation. Basically I would like to add some links from Wikipedia to some of my website pages 1728 . For example, the Wikipedia article about polygons is very thorough but wouldn't it be good to include a link to a polygon calculator? I was just wondering because I have dozens of calulators at my website and was wondering what your policy would be if I linked Wikipedia to some of these. (My website has been online for 7 years and has never had 1 advertisement and never has requested contributions). Thank you. -- Wolf1728 22:54, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
One editor tried an excellent approach at a page where I edit: they posted a link to the talk page, disclosed their connection to the firm, and asked other editors to evaluate whether it was appropriate. Durova 14:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey there. I'm really new to the network and I love this site. I've been reading a lot recently about changes in the world. I'm planning on moving to a 3rd world country and some things have been of concern to me.. Namely, what conflicts are nearby, should I be worried about diseases, etc...
During my research I started looking into this new Bird Flu Epidemic, wondering if anywhere is safer then the rest.. I saw on your global map that North America is clean of any incidents... Not so. When I was living near Princeton BC, there was a big debate over the millions of chickens they were transporting there to be incinerated..
Perhaps my web searching skills are limited but it took me a long time to find this article and when I did find it, it was on an site based in the Netherlands... Anyone have any input to share with me about this? I find it baffling that such a huge amount of birds being slaughtered could be so hard to find in the local governments database... Am I krazy?
Canada: Protesters block landfill entrance as shipping of avian flu carcasses begins; Plans to burn carcasses at the Similko Mine incinerators are being opposed by nearby Princeton's town council with support from the Okanagan Similkameen Regional Distri Auteur: ton (---.speed.planet.nl) Datum: 15-04-04 00:28
... "There's a little bit of anxiety from people that do that work that we may be introducing an unknown epidemic in the Interior needlessly," he said. ...
++++++++++++++++ canada news
Protesters block landfill entrance as shipping of avian flu carcasses begins
CACHE CREEK, B.C. (CP) - British Columbia's agriculture minister tried to calm residents worried the disposal of avian flu-infected chicken carcasses could spread the disease, but about 100 of them protested by blocking a highway. "This is an emergency situation across the province and it requires a provincewide response like we saw with the forest fires last summer," John van Dongen said at a news conference Tuesday.
Earlier in the day, protesters opposed to the dumping of poultry carcasses at the landfill at the Interior community of Cache Creek blockaded the road into the facility, staring down RCMP in the process.
Van Dongen said no birds have been shipped to Interior landfills or incinerators and transports will not begin until strict protocols are finalized.
He said he hoped those protocols would be established later Tuesday but that any affected communities would receive 24 hours notice of chicken carcasses being shipped.
The minister appealed for assistance from British Colmbians in dealing with the crisis.
"We are not trying to shift our problems somewhere else," van Dongen said.
"I am a farmer myself. I don't want avian influenza in the Interior nor do I want a bunch of rotting carcasses lying in the Fraser Valley because of internal squabbling in British Columbia."
About 19 million birds will be culled in the Fraser Valley, just east of Vancouver, in an effort to wipe out the form of avian influenza that has infected 25 farms.
The birds are to be disposed at landfills in Cache Creek and Chilliwack, in the Fraser Valley, and at incinerators in Princeton in the southern Interior and Burnaby, a Vancouver suburb.
Cache Creek Mayor John Ranta and others in his community are concerned trucking the dead poultry into the Interior raises the possibility the virus will be exported to their region.
Ranta took part in the morning protest and returned for a rally Tuesday afternoon.
He said the community's landfill is not equipped to deal with hazardous and special waste.
He said the provincial government's plan to use the site to dispose of 300 tonnes of carcasses infected with avian flu is a violation of agreements to use the site for household waste.
"We agreed to take household waste," Ranta said. "The province cannot trample the rights of the people.
"It's not just local people that are (angry)," he said. "I've had calls from around the province saying 'Stick to your guns, don't let the province ram this down your throat.' "
Health and agriculture officials have already blamed human traffic for transporting the virus between farms.
Ranta has demanded a meeting with Premier Gordon Campbell to find a solution to the issue.
The area around Cache Creek is dotted with cattle ranges but Ranta said exotic birds such as pheasants and ostriches are raised commercially in the area.
"There's a little bit of anxiety from people that do that work that we may be introducing an unknown epidemic in the Interior needlessly," he said.
"It's seems like a ludicrous prospect to transport diseased chickens around the province," he said. "(Authorities) should not risk, sort of, the cross-contamination of the province."
The protesters believe the carcasses are a problem for B.C.'s Lower Mainland and should be disposed of there.
RCMP Sgt. Jerry Fiddick said the mood at the protest was peaceful.
"They're just not willing to move," the commander of the five-man detachment said. "We're not calling in anyone extra at this point."
RCMP officials from the nearby Kamloops district detachment are monitoring the situation, however.
The entrance to the landfill is on the Trans-Canada Highway, which the police intend to keep open.
At least one truck was prevented from entering the landfill, even though it was not carrying dead birds.
The demonstration was organized by Chief Mike Retasket of the Bonaparte Indian band.
In addition to disposing of birds in Cache Creek, others are being put in the Chilliwack landfill 160 kilometres east of Vancouver. Others will be incinerated at two locations, one in Burnaby and the other near Princeton, B.C.
Plans to burn carcasses at the Similko Mine incinerators are being opposed by nearby Princeton's town council with support from the Okanagan Similkameen Regional District.
It's not the incinerating that worries Mayor Keith Olsen.
Rather, it's the area's high rate of motor vehicle accidents around the area's bridges that worries him. He fears a crash involving carcass trucks could spill infected birds into creeks that feed into the Similkameen River.
"If it got into the Similkameen River, it goes all the way down through the Similkameen Valley, down across the line and eventually into the Columbia (River)," Olsen said.
"It could have real bad repercussions if there was an accident."
Van Dongen said experts will be holding town hall meetings in the affected communities to assure people and to answer their questions.
Chilliwack Mayor Clint Hames has received some calls of concern, but he said he's satisfied there is no health threat to humans or animals.
"We want to be part of the solution. Farming is our bread and butter here," Hames said.
"The long-term risks are non-existent. These birds, once they get composted, are going to cook up real fast and that eliminates the virus."
Van Dongen said authorities held a test burn at the Burnaby incinerator and will hold a second one before working out a timeline for when the chickens will be incinerated. ++++++++++++++++ Bron: MyTelus, April 13, 2004 http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=canada_home&articleID=1584144
Change town name: Padang Panjang (separated) became "Padangpanjang" (not separated)
Dear en.wikipedia op/sysop, I am contributor from id.wikipedia, Indonesia citizen, Padangpanjang is my hometown... and new to en.wikipedia.
Padangpanjang is one small city in west sumatra province, Minangkabau, Indonesia. The written of Padangpanjang as "Padang Panjang" ( written separated) as in en.wikipedia do is wrong.Actually Padangpanjang city originally named and written as "Padangpanjang" (not separated).You can see [ Indonesian Wikipedia] about Padangpanjang for further recomendations in Padangpanjang naming system.
Can you help me change this fault to the right one it should be?
Then help please move the content of article about "Padang Panjang" into "Padangpanjang" (should be written not separated).
Thanks... Hendry Allen 05:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
All the red links have turned black (though they're still active links) and are followed by a red question mark in my browser. What's going on here? Is this a new "feature"? How come no one told me? Do I get to vote on whether I like it or not? D e nni ☯ 01:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
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The above is the browsebar, which nowadays shows up in a lot of places on Wikipedia. See discussion about it at Template talk:Browsebar#Is this bar useful?. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov ( talk) 22:59, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Good day,
Does anyone know what is Wikipedia's longest article?
I have been asking myself this question for a long time know, and I was wondering if anyone knew the answer.
Thanks a lot,
Guimauve2
As a rule, articles shouldn't exceed a limit. Longer articles are broken into pages. 132.239.90.150 18:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
World War I and World War II could be up there, at 86kb a and 83kb, respectively. Kafziel 18:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
It might be List of townships in Minnesota in terms of visible text, or List of Statutory Instruments of the United Kingdom, 1996 if Wikitext is included, because of the numerous external links. There is a page Special:Longpages, but it's possible that that list is significantly outdated. Ardric47 08:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Change the panama canal article please. It has some unfortunate and misintreprented lines that shames this article. You will know what I mean when you pass the "toll" section as well as the "current issue" section of this article.
I would like to announce the start of the WikiProject Sicily, to fill in the many gaps that currently exist on the political structures, geography, culture and history of Sicily and related biographies of Sicilians. Please come to the above project page to register your interest. There is still a fair bit to translate from Italian and Sicilian - it's only early days yet. For starters, most of the Sicilian municipalities (comuni or cumuna) need to be done. Otherwise I would appreciate any input from anyone who knows anything about setting up project pages. Thanking you in anticipation. Grazzî assai e salutamu! ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 10:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Earlier tonight I created an account on the Commons to upload a couple images that are in the public domain. I don't forsee ever really checking the Commons account very often at all since I just used it for those two images. Is this a common thing? Are there many English Wikipedians who have virtually dormant accounts at the Commons? Just curious... Dismas| (talk) 06:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
On Wikipedia:ISBN I see:
When?! I've never heard about this. Ashibaka tock 15:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
-edit- when I first posted this request I was unaware of WP:PR, thanks to Gadfium I know now. hence previous request has been moved to WP:PR#9/11 conspiracy theories for sake of coherence. Please go there if you wanna participate in this review. All comments and addition to improve the overall quality of 9/11 conspiracy theories are still welcome. Izwalito 07:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Is anyone trying to clear up the back log on the material that has been moved over to Commons? For example, at the moment there are 7,425 items tagged {{NowCommons}} and further 1,242 that are tagged {{NowCommonsThis}}. Any admin suffering from moderate/severe editcountitis could easily bolster their edit count by clearing this up. -- Lendu 17:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
What an apt title would that be for anyone wishing to cover the recent corporate response by Britannica to Nature's study. This phrase - "We stand by our editorial decision" etc. - is used dozens of times in response to reviewer's criticisms. Just imagine that, the Britannica monolith helplessly "standing by" as more agile competitors overcome it :)
Seriously, it's very instructive reading. It's interesting how closed, defensive, and corporateish they choose to look - and apparently they're proud of that. Their only goal was obviously to stave off as much criticism as possible, to strike back, to triumph. All of their energy went into discrediting Wikipedia, the Nature, and the reviewers. (They even chose not to call Wikipedia an encyclopedia - no, it's just a "database." What a pathetic bite.)
They indicate errors in the reviewers' criticisms. That's fine, but hey, if the reviewers did wrongly accuse Britannica of non-existent errors, isn't it likely that they did the same to Wikipedia? Or were the reviewers biased against Britannica? Fortunately, Britannica does not claim _that_. But it does present a healthy dose of double standards - like referring to similar criticisms as "fundamental shortcomings" in Wikipedia and "editorial decisions" in Britannica.
I think it's enough to compare the responses of the two encyclopedias to the same event to see who owns the future.
Per WP:BITE, I'd like to get to a position where we have a collection of "friendly" templates for use in user Talk space in relation to deletion and other housekeeping actions. I have nn-userfy for userfied autobiographies and user-nnband for non-notable bands speedied under A7, I am sure there's an AfD friendly notice somewhere around, and there is obvious scope for more, many of which may indeed already exist. It would be good to collect them at WP:UTM as a class. What do other people think? Just zis Guy you know? 14:30, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
This survey is conducted amongst Wpians. One million people in the world did contribute to one million articles in the English WP. I should like to collect more precise facts about that event that took place around Feb. 2006.
The survey is launched simultaneously in Reference Desk/Misc and Village Pump/Misc.Please only give an answer here ; results, if of any help, can become a [ [Wikipedia:million survey] ] entry.
Reference deskers should only be allowed to guess and Village pumpers should try to give accurate numbers. Then we’ll mix results.
1) How many words did each user write in WP (main) ?
2) How many are left by user after refactoring, &c. ?
3) In which countries are located those users ?
4) What kind of curve depicts the distribution of contributions per user ?
5) How many hits reach the most accessed pages in WP ( our statistics are as old as 2004) ?
6) What are the fact numbers and comparisons that could be exploited in paper, broadcast or web media to promote WP (like "The population of Fiji, or Estonia, or one quarter of Toronto ... contributed ..." or "This project compares only to the Pyramids for the number of people involved.")
Thank you for your answers. -- DLL 20:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Simplification is not my goal. A panel of article histories may be analysed and help better understanding of the true making of WP. See also WP:RD/M. -- DLL 20:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
if you go to my userpage, you will notice a link to a subpage for what my wikipedia entry would look like if I had one. I would encourage others to do the same. My userpage has a section for you to add links to these. However, please make it a subpage, and make it look like a genuine wikipedia entry (not like an Uncyclopedia entry.) Smartyshoe 12:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Anybody know which article has the most interwiki links? India has the most that I could find. Tuf-Kat 23:35, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi...
Not sure if this is the right place but wondering if an admin could look at this.
Bonnyrigg article keeps getting vandalised by someone with IP 88.108.64.209
Have changed back a few times to no avail.
Can someone temporary block/warn them/whatever gets done.
Many thanks
As per this message left for Jimbo, I am deeply troubled by the "end notes" style of links in certain articles. I am convinced that this style of external links is degrading the quality of the wiki. See Rationale to impeach George W. Bush and Killian documents for example pages with this problem. Merecat 08:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
I've added mention of the alleged sex assault controversy to the Duke University page. While I spent a while writing it up, I don't really want to have to monitor it much further (I'm busy and not an American so the issue only holds limited interest to me). But I was shocked to discover the issue wasn't mentioned at all in the article before I added it. Is anyone willing to take over and update as necessary? Hopefully other wikipedians will do so without me asking but having seen it not mentioned at all until now, I'm somewhat disillusioned and I'm a bit afraid it will just dissappear Nil Einne 21:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't believe the subject of the Jay Alexander article actually goes by "Jay". According to the IMDb and the credits of America's Next Top Model, he goes by "J." Can anyone show me I'm wrong? If not, I'm going to move the article to J. Alexander. - dcljr ( talk) 19:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC) Note: I don't even know if his full first name really is Jay, as opposed to, say, John or something else. - dcljr ( talk) 22:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I contibute for wikipedia fr and I ask myself if i can translate a proof of planetmath.org into french and put in in wikipedia.
Thanks all for any answer. Utilisateur:Oxyde
First, sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place. This seems quite interesting. Check out this link it seems to suggest that Bono may be a wikipedia vandal! (Gasp!) Amusing, eh!
Help! Someone's killed the Accolade article that I wrote over a year ago! Now it redirects to embrace, of all places. It was an article on the game company. It was longish and full of details. Now it's gone and looking at the page's history, my original versions (and all the other edits by other Wikipedia editors) are gone! What happened to it?
This happened to another article I wrote on Trip Hawkins years ago. Someone vandalised the page and an admin deleted it. It was restored a few days later, but I have no idea how long the Accolade article's been gone ( Google cache of the article). Can someone help me find out what happened? TIA — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:06, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
The backlog on Wikipedia:Copyright problems has grown over one month now. → A z a Toth 03:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia serves as all Wiki Projects' highest form of governemnt; I don't think that's right. I think that Wikimedia should be where Help, Reference Desk, Proposals, Policy, etc. should be located. Also, Beer Parlour & Tea Room should be deleted, etc. & if there are any other institutions like as mentioned in this comment, then they should be deleted to. User pages should also be consolidated into 1 central location, namely Wikimedia, or a separate place, but these are draft ideas, but the general idea, would organize Wikimedia & save resources. Taking the point of saving resources, Accounts should be allowed to be deleted.
Please leave one if you'd like more clarification on this issue. You could also contact me <redact> [since they haven't instituted the option to delete your account, made their own licence, or the GNU licence hasn't changed yet, I haven't signed up].
thanks
24.70.95.203 14:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello english wikipedians, a question with no relation with the Wiki (:
I'm going to London in one month (and maybe this summer) with two friends. We're looking for an apartment (for one week or a little bit more), does it exist some systems where rents a room or an apartment for a so short time in England?
If you know websites talking about this it were cool to give it to me (: Excuse my english, thank you in advance ^^ Tvpm 12:40, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
I have frequently had an unpleasant experience when looking up mathematical terms in Wpedia. I go to the article I want and, reading the definition of the term, I encounter another term I don't understand. If there is a link connected to the term I open a new tab to find the definition of the second term. In reading the second definition I find the need to look up a third, then a forth, fifth, sixth. I am soon swamped by "hanging" definitions. But, not infrequently, a term is used without any attempt to define it. Do mathematicians write these articles only to communicate with other mathematicians? Surely an encyclopedia is meant to educate people about things they don't already know. Too Old 21:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I felt this article could have some amusing tangential parallels to Wikipedia. [9] - Roy Boy 800 06:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I've started moving football player articles, that were titled, for example: Joe Roth (football) to Joe Roth (football player). I've been thinking that they should be consistent throughout with regards to their titles. So I'm just wondering if anyone could offer some advice on if it would be a bad idea to move football players whose articles are titled, for example: Jim Miller (quarterback) to Jim Miller (football player). KnowledgeOfSelf 16:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I see no problem with calling them all "football player," where that is sufficient to disambiguate. Remember that the point of this is only to disambiguate; the actual explanation of what sport we are talking about should be in the article. Christopher Parham (talk) 09:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
The link to her movie "Swing Shift" takes the view to another movie--an unrelated short by the same name.
There are following messages in pop-ups of buttons at the top of a page of every article:
As you can see, popups of buttons for edit and history has full stops, the rest of - hasn't got. I think it should be standardised. Visor 11:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
What's the longest serious article in Wikipedia?
Elmer Clark 23:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Please comment on the proposal Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Parkinson Factor. `' mikka (t) 19:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Viewable at wikipediaforums.proboards106.com note: This is not a substitute for the villiage pump. The forums are mainly for discussing things about wikipedia that do ntot fit in to the villiage pump (such as user wiki articles, like the one I created here) and just life in general. Now, the villiage pump is mainly for technical issues and help issues, this will be for everything else. Is there any way to either link to it or incorperate it into this website? NOTE: if you type www before the URL it won't load.
There's a new WikiProject involving investigating sources people may use for articles, such as EB. Take a look at it: Wikipedia:WikiProject Reference Investigation. 204.8.195.187 13:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that in wikihtml, when we edit, formating has extra space, for example, when we edit a comment, there's a space between the $Subject/headline:$ & the content of the message. Another example is $== Extra Space ==$ is also the same as $==Extra Space==$. Does this make comments larging in size as bytewise? Even if not, it could create confusion. So I guess Mediawiki needs to be tweaked/the devlopers\the codes needs a little editing?
Please leave one if you'd like more clarification on this issue. You could also contact me <redact> [since they haven't instituted the option to delete your account, made their own licence, or the GNU licence hasn't changed yet, I haven't signed up].
thanks
24.70.95.203 20:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to request that editors refrain from adding {{ wikify}} tags to certain articles. ([ [10]] is not equivalent to cleanup). 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica articles articles are particularly troublesome. Some of the articles are fine and don't need to be updated or don't need extensive updating. Other articles are out of date, but brief enough (a medium-sized paragraph, or at most, two) so that wikification is not a big deal if the material is eventually deleted. However, some of the articles are very long and out of date (one article that I worked on was about 30 pages long in Microsoft Word, single-spaced). Such articles should not be wikified in their current state because the out of date material will eventually be deleted or rewritten. It can easily take an hour or longer to wikify and do non-content cleanup (formatting, spelling, punctuation, missing text), especially if there are a lot of OCR errors. I suppose you could just add links, but most of us like to do more than a half-assed job (I use three-quarters ass, minimum). Instead of tagging for wikification, I suggest adding an update or rewrite tag instead. There is a tag specifically for these articles, {{ 1911POV}}, but I disagree with its use because it is inaccurate. Except for some spectacularly racist articles, most 1911 EB articles have a fairly neutral point of view.
There are other articles that should not be tagged for wikification, as well. They include out of date articles from other sources, articles that need rewriting, articles needing extensive cleanup and articles to be merged. These articles are likely to have substantial amounts of text that is rewritten, rearranged and/or deleted (rearrangement is a problem because only the first instance of a term should be linked in most cases). I'll explain further about articles to be merged so that it is clear why they are included. First, they often have redundant text that will be deleted. Also, the text that is added to the other article is often rearranged, leading to the wrong instance of a term being linked. Finally, articles to be merged are likely to have the same terms, so redundant links may also be created if the articles are wikified.
As for articles nominated for one of the three deletion methods, I guess it's a matter of opinion. If the tags are not removed, or are added during or after a nomination, a substantial amount of articles in Category:Articles that need to be wikified will be nominated for deletion. It's quite annoying when you click on five articles in a row and find them all nominated for deletion (speedy, prod or AfD). This annoyance is worse now that we sort the articles by the month they were tagged because there are a lot of editors working on the same articles. When we get down to the last articles, most and eventually all of them are tagged for deletion if the tags are not removed because the other ones have been wikified or marked as copyright violations. Each editor will waste time clicking through the articles trying to find the few not nominated for deletion (when the site is running slow, this can take a long time). Another downside is that a user may wikify an article that ends up being deleted anyway. However, if the article is not deleted, it will need to be retagged if no one has cleaned it up to avoid deletion. Removing and readding the tag is not very difficult and there is now a robot that tags completely unlinked articles, so I favor removing the tag, especially when the article is very likely to be deleted.
I don't want to seem unappreciative of those who add wikify tags because I'm not. However, if they were more selectively added, I think it would help a lot. Thanks, Kjkolb 04:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to come in and say that it's fun reading the old mailing list archives from 2003. Aside from me being embarassed right now at how naive I was as a 12 year old, it's fun to see people saying things like "I hope we can move to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship...and remove the mailing list method" or "I would like Wikipedia to come up on a google search of The Beatles, but we're probably a long way away from that". Whoo — Ilyan e p (Talk) 18:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
By the way ,when did shortcuts (like WP:VP) start appearing? — Ilyan e p (Talk) 18:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I have owned for about twenty years a curious brass object resembling a wind chime consisting of the word suncycle in vertical formation and it reads both front to back. I believe this to be a concrete poetry multiple by Kenelm Cox 1968 and certain it was displayed in an exhibition entitled Multiples at the Ikon Gallery,Birminghm UK.
There is I think similar in Southampton City Art Gallery, Southampton UK.
Does anyone know more about Kenelm Cox?
you guys r soooo, extremely great! these sisters of WIKI are Awesome! KEEP UP the superb work! im sooo amazed and impressed by all of your hard work @.@~
best wishes to all of you, kat
Join us, and together we shall rule the galaxy as father and son. Er, I mean, as Wikipedians! __earth ( Talk)
I've seen this quite a bit over the days. An anon will revert nonsense...that they put in. For exampleWhat is it? Siblings fighting over a computer? Kids in a computer lab? Any speculations on this behavior? -- Mmx1 21:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually they don't — they write about us all the time, and most of it is very fair and (reasonably) informative. But today's Technology section has a story — linked from the front page of the website — written by Andrew Orlowski, and featuring quotes from Robert McHenry, Encyclopædia Britannica, Daniel Brandt, and some (apparently new) site called WikiTruth. It's like all our nemesii have come together for one final push to destroy us. Man the barricades!
Of course, once you cut past Orlowski's "journalism", the article makes some valid points about Wikipedia's accuracy, reliability, and deterioration of quality, but frankly any Wikipedian of long standing knows about these issues, and knows they're nothing new. What's more interesting is the comment from Will Davies of IPPR, who makes the point that people in this " information age" try and mask their lack of understanding of issues by surrounding themselves with more and more data. For that purpose, Wikipedia is very useful as a massive collection of data — not without boundaries, but more like an almanac of one-liners and bulletpoints, rather than an encyclopedia along Britannica lines. Hell, one of our policies effectively works to discourage creative writing, making it so much harder to get the kind of analysis that some of our topics need.
The solution to this seems to be one of perception. Surely there is a place in this world for a big dumping ground of facts, provided that everyone understands that that is (one of the things) Wikipedia does. Case in point — only yesterday a friend of mine said he just found out anyone could edit Wikipedia. He'd thought it was "a proper encyclopedia". I know this is a radical suggestion, but perhaps we should stop using that word, if that's what is causing confusion and getting certain people's backs up. Then, when people browse the site and come across a lengthy article, they will be pleasantly surprised. "Wow, I didn't realise Wikipedia had things like this in it — I thought it was just a collection of lists." Wikipedia — the free dumping ground for all knowledge that anyone can edit — got quite a ring to it, don't you think? — sjorford (talk) 11:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC) Disclaimer: this is not meant to be taken entirely seriously...
I have re-designed and completed the Turkey portal, I'm looking for your comments. -- Teemeah 16:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I know, a basic principle is "anyone can create an article". But over half of incoming articles are deletable as advertising, nonsense, attacks, or vandalism. Dealing with this dreck takes up considerable effort, and some of it slips through. Does anyone collect statistics on how users improve? How many users have a first article that has to be deleted and then go on to write something useful to Wikipedia? That would be worth knowing. -- John Nagle 18:47, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Your verdict is correct but we hate you!
Lotsofissues 22:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
This is how a Wall Street Journal front page article on the Britannica v. Wikipedia dispute concluded: Mr. Wales says he was "pleased" with Nature's study, but adds, "It's hardly true we're as good as Britannica." He says he was glad Nature chose to compare science-related themes "because on history and the social sciences, we're much weaker." In other areas -- including computer science and the history of "Star Trek," he says, Wikipedia is "way better."
As Britannica moves to discredit Wikipedia, Jimbo steps aside and agrees.
Can you please point out Britannica's motives first?--or give someone else the spokesperson responsibility.
Lotsofissues 00:19, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
In almost all interviews, it's alright to be humble and sincere. But not when we are defending ourselves against Britannica management, who do not seek a balanced evaluation. They want to make us radioactive. Jimbo shouldn't have conceded the momentum to them. He should have stood by our science articles. Britannica does not look vengeful; they look correct because Jimbo gave the most diminutive answer possible. Lotsofissues
Maybe Jimbo Wales should've said "It's hardly true we're as good as Britannica...yet..." whilst raising an eyebrow and giving an evil grin. Maniacal laugh purely optional. ---- Bobak 20:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/172.169.58.156 -- Maxamegalon2000 03:05, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Specifically, some kind of template to wrapper an external link with text that would encourage future editors to shamelessly rape and pillage it for more information. In other words, I have found a source where we can get information for the article, but I don't have the time or inclination to actually expand the article now. But I want some future person to do that, rather than just leave the link there as further reading. Does such a thing exist?
Where do I announce to all of Wikipedia the existence of Wikipedia:Paranormal Watchers w/o being accused of "spamming", advertising ? This is NOT either of these. This is a Wikipedia Organization that is for and about Wikipedians who have had paranormal experiences, investigate these matters. Martial Law 02:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC) :)
The textbox in the side-frame has the word "Search" above it, despite defaulting to being a 'go to' box and search being only its secondary function. Given that there's a button that says 'search' directly beneath the box (and encapsulated within the same box) the caption seems misleading and redundant. Can it be removed? Irrevenant 00:46, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, as I am but a timid n00b. (If someone could point me in the right direction that would be marvellous.) Is there a standard for genealogical trees to be included in articles on families, genealogies and dynasties? I've noticed a dearth of them and I think they would be really helpful for quite a few articles (yay diagrams!). Does anyone know where I could get more information on Wikipedia policies/designs for this? Thanks! Tamarkot 01:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
It's well-recognized that most new user articles aren't very good, and most have to be fixed or deleted. This is an inherent result of the way Wikipedia is set up. It looks like a blog; anyone can create a new article, which gets them a blank text box to fill in.
Constructing a Wikipedia article is a complex task, requiring knowledge of about ten pages worth of Wikipedia policies, the formatting syntax, at least a few of the templates, and the ability to write to Wikipedia's house style. Yet all we give new users is an empty box. So, of course, the new users don't get it right.
Then the RC patrollers dump on them. Some of the new users get annoyed, and we have to go through the whole AfD process. The whole system is almost designed to bite new users and to be labor intensive.
I've suggested a form-based system for new articles in common categories (bands, movies, albums, TV, etc.), so that new uses would get the format and basic info correct on the first try. Anyone else have a better idea? Something like Microsoft's Clippy, maybe? ("You seem to be writing an article about a Pokemon. Would you like assistance"). -- John Nagle 16:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
It purports to be of her from "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie."
I've seen the movie three times, the latest, 20 minutes ago.
The photo is of her but not, I believe, from that film. The dress is all wrong for the part; I don't remember it from the movie; and she appears slightly older in the photo than she does in the film.
I read all the prompts as to how to alert someone regarding this and found none of them fit this situation--so I went the misc. route.
I just trawled through a set of articles on humanitarian aid organisations that do not seem to exist in reality. Though there is a webpage for the organisation, its purpose is murky. It came to my mind that 419 scammers might use Wikipedia to make their organisations look real/good. I am still not sure that this is the case in this particular event, but it will probably happen if it hasn't already. Wikipedia could get entagled in legalities following an event like that. rxnd ( t | € | c ) 23:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm a college student in New York and would just like to say that wikipedia.org is an amazing encyclopedia. It has an enormous amount of interesting facts on a plethora of topics. I've learned so many intriguing facts and used this encyclopedia for many school projects. Keep up the good work! thanks.
I have a real problem with people who don't like what kind of edit I've made, and then instead of asking me about it or just giving me the benefit of the doubt, they'll leave me a message and beat me over the head with policy and their personal ideas about "consensus." Why can't these people just be honest and state their views instead of being patronizing? I'm not a child, and I'm not new here. A similar problem is shown by those people who quote WP:AGF or Wikipedia:Civility when someone (not just me) is being honest. What the hell is up with all these appeals to authority? I'm not looking to solve any particular dispute, I'm just wondering why people can't just say what's on their minds without immediately quoting policy and some imagined consensus as a way of putting pressure on others. Brian G. Crawford 00:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I understand why people get upset at deletionists, even if we do perform a necessary function. I just hate getting policy thrown at me when I know very well I haven't violated any. I've seen this done to plenty of others too. Brian G. Crawford 17:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Britannica had an article on Frank Woolley, a great English cricketer, who lived the last few years of his life in Canada. The Britannica article on him called him a 'Canadian cricketer' which is as bad an error as, for instance, if the long retired Argentinian footballer Diego Maradona is called a 'Japanese footballer' by an encyclopaedia in its introduction because he became a citizen of Japan in 2006.
The policy of granting an admin status to a user who has been around long enough does not work so smoothly on foreign language wikis (notably relatively younger wikis with fewer users and articles). My concerns is current situation at Georgian site ka:ვიკიპედია. Most of the earlier admins are no longer available and only one active, relatively novice admin remains. There are a few other regular users who actively contributing on a weekly basis. Since Georgian version uses its own alphabet reaching an agreement on a proper spelling of a foreign name is almost always problematic (if there is someone around). But recently our omnipotent admin with unlimited rights started taking liberty on assuming what's wrong and right, deleting redirect pages without fist posting any comments on the discussion page. Requesting a reason have almost always resulted in an offensive exchange. It begins to resemble a soviet dictatorship, we recently got rid of... The problem is there is no back up to challenge the authority of this admin. Is there any way to request other non-active admins to return and check the status of affairs at least on a weekly basis or assign a new additional admin from active users/moderators? Any comments would be appreciated. Alsandro 00:16, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
There is no equivalent of WP:RFA at /KA (Georgian)/ and, besides, I don't know who would I name, there are very few experienced users on that mirror who would be eligible and have enough time to contribute regularly. I am speaking out of frustration, there is no one to warn the current admin when she overtakes the limit and I'm starting to loose temper. I don't really want to be an admin, just need peace of mind and competent people to deal with. Alsandro 17:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Is there a policy related to authoring an article about onesself? IOW, I want to write a short biography (in third person)of myself. Is this within policy/rules? If so, downsides? Thanks, Carey Fisher
Apparently, someone has placed at least one redirect in Wikipedia to make Wikireason look like like a namespace for it, e.g., [[wikireason:Distributed unconsciousness|Distributed unconsciousness]]. User:H0riz0n placed this in the "See also" section of Spirituality to make it look like a Wikipedia artilce. This user has another redirect, [[wikireason:The Natural Taoist]] on his user page. At Wikireason, they state, "Wikireason is not affiliated with Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation." Wikireason:Welcome. I'm sure this is a violation of a Wikipolicy somewhere. 4.224.138.208 17:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
p.s. I know Wikireason is listed on the Wikimedia Interwiki map. I just think making a non-Wikipedia article look like it is part of this encyclopedia is blatant misrepresentation. 4.225.107.208 19:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure this is the right place for this question, please tell me if not. Image:Picasso with cloak.jpg, a painting by Pablo Picasso dated 1901 has been tagged {{PD-art-US}}. However, it hasn't been first published in the US AFAIK, so I wonder if the tag is correct. My guess is that this is a copyright violation. Thanks. -- Cruccone 13:23, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Many wikis, in particular the more speciazed ones, have copied information from Wikipedia which, assuming the licensing is compatible, is a Good Thing. Are there policies covering the reverse situation -- i.e., copying a good article from another (compatible) wiki to Wikipedia?
In particular, the article for Metropolia on the OrthodoxWiki is a nice and accurate disambiguation page. The current article for Metropolia in Wikipedia is a redirect to Metropolite, which is itself a redirect to Metropolitan -- which isn't quite right. I'd like to copy the OrthodoxWiki version over to here. Is this acceptable? If so, how should credit be properly noted? Anyway, thanks. ArglebargleIV 19:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Add a References section then link to the version of the original article that you copied over, with a comment like, "The original version of this article was derived from ..." User:Zoe| (talk) 22:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
[13] talks about some person named kyle in canda requesting 5$ by check to mail stuff... WTF is that about?
If this is a scam (I believe it is), it should be removed and page should be protected.
-- Cat out 10:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be "Jewinsh" websites? I have never heard the term "Judaist" before. Dave 18:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know where I can find information on WikipediA's treasury? Or its financial statements, its annual/monthly spendings, income etc? Pseudoanonymous 01:20, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I was thinking about donating, but I wasn't about to do so without knowing where the money is going or how it is spent. I also wanted the budget for my proposal, which is to put ads on Wikipedia and all the sites under wikimedia; if the majority don't mind. With the budget I can suggest what the ads are going to pay for. Pseudoanonymous 19:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering if this wikipedia has a bot that does that... does it? -- Extremophile 00:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, hardly a bot could recognize whether someone quoting a huge part of a wikipedia´s article was a copyright infringement or just someone quoting... I didn´t think of that... also, a bot would search only for online material of irrestricted access, and perhaps some copies are done from manually copying books... seems that we better still look for copyright infringements on wikipedia like it was done in the time of our grandpas... but I just thought of something that, at least to my limited knowledge on bots, seems that could work... rather than a whitelist... it could search from a blacklist of possible sources of copyrighted material... and nowe I´m highly suspicious that it´s not viable... this black list could include even printed books, if someone could create a bot that manages to search within google books database... -- Extremophile 04:56, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Here's how I'd do it. Scan all new pages. Copy the first 30 words or so and google search them (first 30 words shouldn't be a quote). If it gets a hit add it to a list of suspected copyvios. Also add all long pages with a small amount of wiki-syntax to the list. Shouldn't be too hard. Adding in the mirrors makes it harder though. You'd need a whitelist. Most long pages without syntax are copyvios though, so you might not need to use google to make accurate calls. Still a lot of work though, maybe TurnItIn.com would like to donate their services... Broken Segue 02:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I apologize if this is not the right place to post this, but I could find no better place. I am writing this message to inform the Wikipedia community of a decision recently made by Wikisource to exclude reference material. This includes all cryptographic, mathematical, scientific, and source code material. On the multilingual Wikisource the deletion has already begun, and on the English Wikisource, the deletion will begin shortly. I am not active here, so I do not know what pages here link to the articles on Wikisource, but I am alerting the community that the links will have to be changed.
If anyone wants to save the information on Wikisource, notify me, and I'll undelete the pages so that the information can be copied to a different place. I apologize for throwing this on you (I had hoped we would slowly delete the pages so as to avoid a lot of frustration in trying to find and correct links), but the deletion on the English sub-domain will hopefully proceed more slowly. I can most easily be reached on my English Wikisource talk page, but I will be checking my multi-lingual Wikisource talk page as well.— Zhaladshar (Talk) 19:24, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
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When I click on 'Save Page' button, it does strange, I get this message that saids
Preview
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WTH is that, I hate that freaking message, It's too CCCCCCCOOOOORRRNNNYYY! I'm sorry I have to say it. Please get rid of this dumb-stupid-crude-freakin-unexpected message!
I disagree when you said the words "I'm sorry".
It is a little corny, and technically Spencer's right - saying sorry in those circumstances isn't entirely accurate, since that implies that some human agency saw what was happening. A better message would probably simply say "We apologise for not being able to process your..." (which doesn't imply human intervention) and also explaining that re-saving will usually fix the problem. Grutness... wha? 00:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I thought some people might be interested in Jimbo's wheel war and his subsequent comment about it. ‣ᓛᖁ ᑐ 03:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure Jimbo is the law on Wikipedia. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 07:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I was just wondering why Wikipedia Statistics hasn't been updated since December 10th? With such an important milestone surely only hours away, I was rather curious!
-- James 19:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I have made an modification of {{ tif}}. This should be able to work on any page.
{{
exists|Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)|then=[[Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)]] exists|else=nothing here to see}}
gives: {{exists|Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)|then=[[Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)]] exists|else=nothing here to see}} →
Aza
Toth
00:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I can't see where to take this issue, so I'm bringing it up here. If anyone can suggest a more appropriate place, either in en: or commons:, let me know where to take it. Image:028fi.jpg (on Commons) was recently tagged for lack of authorship information, etc. It is an obviously contemporaneous portrait of Ferdinand and Isabel of Spain, who reigned 500 years ago. Therefore, regardless of what individual painted it, which may or may not be known, it is clearly public domain. Yet it was removed from Pope Alexander VI as an unsourced image and, I suppose, is in danger of being deleted outright. This strikes me as ridiculous. Clearly there is no copyright problem here: there is no such thing as a copyrighted 500-year-old work. This is carrying the letter of our rules on provenance to the point of absurdity. Is there something we can do to prevent the deletion of such an image? And is there something we can do to avoid having to fight about this sort of silliness in the future? - Jmabel | Talk 18:24, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Have administrators had a look at Hobart Freeman? It does not seem to be an objective report. Is Wikipedia a suitable place to put articles justifying a religious group? 金 (Kim) 07:56, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I have recently started the Wikipedia Happy Birthday Association, or the "Birthday Committee," which wishes people happy birthday using the listing found on the MetaWiki. I'm having trouble getting other people to join. Would anybody care to join by adding their name to the list found in the article here at Wikipedia:Birthday Committee and notifying me that you have joined? JaredW! 12:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Is there a semi-official wikipedia IRC channel and/or server? 'Net 19:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
i saw User:Michael Snow deleted the above mentioned list (+ a lot of others!) on feb. 16:
even if in the comments there was Girolamo Savonarola's and mine:
the arguments for me:
so i do not see any copyvio problem, as for the majority of the ones which has been deleted, and i think this is an exagerated interpretation of it... what is the policy today? kernitou talk 09:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
the text can be seen: User:Kernitou/Vanity Fair’s 50 greatest films of all time
Looks like we just hit one million registered users... still a few thousand articles to go until that hits the million mark. *Dan T.* 02:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I've been doing some work on the Porcelain article, which includes a fair amount on Chinese porcelain. What I'd like to do now is to hack out the Chinese porcelain section and post it as a new article Chinese porcelain. Most of the words in the existing Porcelain article seem to be mine, but I don't want to tread on too many toes here. I've asked for opinions on the Talk:Porcelain page, but have received no comments yet. How should I proceed? All comments would be appreciated. Regards, Nick.-- Nick 16:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help Guys, this is what I'll do if no one objects before tomorrow. Regards, Nick. Nick 11:34, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I want to know if there is any rule about titling articles that are about things with on Wheels in their name to clarify that the titles are serious and not titles made by Willy's page moves. Georgia guy 00:32, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
There are many musical articles here where I can not view a # (sharp) or b (flat); I see a rectangular box. I use Win 98 with the latest version of IE. The same 'problem' exists for me when I view the same pages from a library computer. These computers use Windows XP and are brand new. I've set my own computer to ... View \ Encoding \ Unicode (UTF-8) and still do not see # and b in many articles.
One such article where I only view rectangles in place of # or b is the Stradella bass system section of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accordion
I welcome any suggestions, solutions or work arounds. Thanks, Dave Horne Davehorne 12:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I installed the latest version of Mozilla Firefox and instead of seeing rectangles, I now see question marks. I welcome any suggestions. Feel free to contact me personally. davehorne@home.nl Davehorne 00:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
♭
), so even IE should handle it.
Unicode and HTML suggests "you may need to install one or more large multilingual fonts, like
Code2000" to get some things to display. -
R. S. Shaw
08:54, 28 February 2006 (UTC)I installed Code2000, code2001, and code2002 ... same problem. The code2000 (the largest file of the three) caused IE to crash. It could have been the combination of having all three in my Fonts dir, but I deleted them just the same. I'm back to where I started. I should also add that the new computers at my local library (Windows XP) also have the same viewing problem I have. I am open to all suggestions. Feel free to contact me privately. Thanks! Davehorne 17:44, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way to find out which .en article links to the most non-English Wikipedia articles? (In the "in other languages" toolbox on the left-hand side, I mean). I've found several articles that link to nearly 100 other articles, but there must be articles that exist in more languages than that. What about the article Wikipedia? That probably exists in nearly every language's incarnation of Wikipedia, but it's not the most-linked article I've seen.
Can anybody find an article with more other-language links than India?
(Comparing the number of other-language links in different articles is sort of fun. The Beatles aren't more popular than Jesus, but they are about as popular as God.) -- Mr. Billion 10:19, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that the article Lilian Cristina Aya Ramirez—which gets the bulk of its content from [5] on Reconoselos.com—turns Wikipedia into an echo chamber for an attack site. I have raised the issue there, but it is not exactly a heavily watched article. At the moment I've slapped an {{ NPOV}} tag on it, but the general pattern concerns me: the mere fact that accusations are made against a relatively minor figure in the Venezuelan government does not seem to me like a reason to reprint those accusations without comment and with only a single source; reproducing their weasely citation ("According to the Venezuelan police archives", "Seemingly") and uncited claims ("there were official 'inverventions'") does not seem to me to do anyone any favors. - Jmabel | Talk 01:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Is it appropriate that I add to an article (i.e., Mens High Hurdles) a link to a compendium of statistics about the subject of that article (i.e., Mens High Hurdle Statistics) when the compendium is copyrighted and has advertising? R124c41 21:12, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Category:White rappers, Category:Female rappers, List of white rappers, List of female rappers. Why should we be categorizing rappers by race and gender, when they are in the minority?-- Urthogie 14:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Check it out -- the article List of sets of unrelated songs with identical titles lists TEN different songs called "Tonight", not one of which is the song from West Side Story (the best-known one)! Wiwaxia 07:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
On two of the Firefox pages on mozilla.org, Wikipedia is described as "The incredible free encyclopedia." [6] [7] I see what concept they're trying to convey, but I don't feel that "incredible" is quite the right word to use to describe a project for which credibility is a major focus. I emailed webmaster@mozilla.org a few weeks ago to ask that the word be changed, but I've gotten no response. Anybody here affiliated with mozilla.org, could you flag the right person about this? - Brian Kendig 18:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Triumph of the Will has a gallery of fair use pictures. There was a notice at the bottom of the article before it was featured on the main page asking readers to view Image talk:1936NurembergRally.jpg and the article talk for a discussion of the various images' copyrights, which appeared to imply the article's images are PD -- a rather poor excuse for not just tagging them as such and uploading them to Commons, which is for galleries (Wikipedia is not for galleries of images). However, the article talk only stated:
The image talk page however, had the input of someone from the German Wikipedia, who stated:
Template talk:PD-Germany, which was cited by the discussion as evidence that the image was PD, has a notice at the bottom stating that the template was TfDed due to terribly inappropriate wording, and this was only rectified by altering the template's text. Furthermore, Image:1936NurembergRally.jpg is not even used in Triumph of the Will. From this, I believe we should assume the images are not PD, as there are very stringent laws pertaining to public domain images, especially in Germany. (There was a discussion on IRC earlier about whether the images are PD -- a British statute was cited, which stated that all German works imported into Britain between 1939 and 1951 were in the public domain, but the film was first released in Germany in 1935. Furthermore, as Wikipedia is hosted in the United States and the Wikimedia Foundation is based in Florida, I believe only United States law applies to it.)
Surprisingly, this troubling issue of fair use/weak claims of public domain, was not addressed by the FAC which passed this article. When it was first suggested for the main page, I brought this issue up. The article was nevertheless slated for the main page. Indignant, I complained in more detail on the TFA talk, and on the article talk. Now today, lo and behold, the article is on the main page, with my complaint having been totally ignored! Since apparently people think this can be just brushed aside nonchalantly because, y'know, them Nazis ain't ever gonna' sue nobody for using their pictures, I've made this excruciatingly detailed and long comment, and I will cross-post it to wherever I feel relevant. See also Wikipedia:Fair_use_review#Images. Yes, I know, some will scream m:Avoid copyright paranoia. However, we have insisted on removing fair use images from people's talk pages, even though there is a zero chance of being sued for their use (really, will the US Democratic Party sue us for using their logo in a userbox?), so why should we brush this off when an article supposed to be our best work and appearing on our gateway to the world so blatantly violates the provisions of fair use and/or the definition of a public domain image? Johnleemk | Talk 15:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Are advertisements inevitable seeing as how WP is growing in popularity? Is there some other plan to pay for these costs? I don't think fundraisers will be enough. Forgive me if this the wrong place to put this in. Gflores Talk 02:37, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
One little box on the main page. -- Banana04131 00:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
There appears to be an individual article for every single episode of the original telvision series The Twilight Zone. These articles are largely without any content except for a brief synopsis and a few production notes. Is this wise?
I'm taking this to the Pump because I suspect there may be other series treated in like fashion. Is there a distinct article for every episode of Green Acres and Three's Company? If so, is this wise?
For me, it's a stretch to mention some television series at all; but I wouldn't throw them out. It's going pretty far in my book to list a synopsis of every single episode; but if all such were in a single article I suppose I wouldn't object. But I see no value in endless multiplication of pages. We have over a million pages; how many of them are this sort of trivium?
Excellent stuff from the young Wikipedians. Who is the oldest Wikipedian? -- Bduke 11:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Who is the youngest Wikipedian we have? The the youngest admin, the youngest bureaucrat the youngest user, it would be interesting to know all of this-- M Johnson ( talk • contribs) 04:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
The youngest consistent user I have come accross is a young man named Aidan, who asks generally very intelligent questions on the reference desk. He always signs as Aidan, age 8. Though I don't think he has an account. I'm guessing younger have edited, but that's the youngest I've come across much. - Taxman Talk 18:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
User:Aleksei is 10 years old, and is able to edit with an acccount only by virtue of Wikipedia requiring no personal information to register. Also, User:SushiGeek a/k/a User:WikiFanatic became an admin when he was 12. Ashibaka tock 04:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Template messages/Media namespace is on second relist now, please comment so that can be any consensus, see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Template messages/Media namespace → Aza Toth 23:27, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm new here! As you can see, i am interested in oh so many subjects but I have been especially interested in the Norman conquest of Ireland and the origins of the Cambrian Normans so i propose an article again. I just read an article on modern Lords of Ireland in the Telegraph and it was factually incorrect! Newsgirl 11:50, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
What does a history animation tool do? CG 19:19, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Would someone kindly advise on what fonts to acquire (and where to acquire) in order to properly view Chinese and Japanese characters?
I've been wracking my brains for a good place to ask, and I figure this is the best place to do so. I'm trying to find a good article that's already an FA that hasn't already been listed on the Main Page to list on there on 1 April, 2006. I had hoped to bring an unusual article up to FA status, but I think that since the FA process takes a while, that would be unlikely. A better solution would be to list an already-FA article on the Main Page.
So my question is, what do you think are appropriate articles that are already FA, but haven't been listed on the Main Page yet? These articles should be unusual. One suggestion I saw on Wikipedia talk:Tomorrow's featured article suggests that Read my lips: no new taxes might be a good article. Any other suggestions? Thanks, -- D e athphoenix ʕ 19:08, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if this has been noted elsewhere, but I recently noticed that Yahoo! has a chart of the most popular searches that is updated 5 times a week and Wikipedia is currently one of the more popular items (#7). The FAQs explain their method (e.g. filtering).-- GregRM 15:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
pic Apple should be paying you.
Lotsofissues 03:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I have created two new articles: representative assembly and Delaval. They are embryonic. I propose to add to them in due course. Tell me what you think.
AWhiteC 00:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
So far, so good. Keep editing. Smiles, Durova 01:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
The title of each article includes "- Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia". This is too long. It could be shortened to just "- Wikipedia". — Masatran 06:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
What program do I use for screenshots?-- Tdxi a ng 陈 鼎 翔 (Talk) Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 04:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Not a list, as discussed above but Mars photos is an odd sort of gallery. Should this exist? Or maybe exist only on Wikicommons? Rmhermen 21:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I just came across Portal:Test, and its original location Portal:Topic. Are these still needed for anything, or are they left over from when portals where introduced? -- W( t) 15:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
A few weeks ago while disambiguating some links, I ran across and a set of pages each one about a ring of saturn ( A Ring, B Ring, D Ring, etc.) I merged them, but little did I know that I had stumbled into an astronomical catalog: List of geological features on Mercury, List of craters on Mercury, List of periodic comets, List of non-periodic comets, List of craters on Mars, List of features on Phobos and Deimos, List of geological features on 433 Eros, List of geological features on 243 Ida and Dactyl, Meanings of asteroid names (1-500), List of asteroids named after places, and on and on it goes (for some more see Category:Surface feature nomenclature of solar system bodies but I don't know if there's a "top level" page). As lists maybe they aren't so bad -- but what really distubs me is all the redlinks on each page which suggests that more pages are coming "to fill it out". This all seems to me to run afoul of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. What do you all think? Ewlyahoocom 14:58, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Do we have any idea of how many pages we're even talking about? The set of pages List of asteroids/1–1000 ... List of asteroids/119001–120000 alone makes me a little nervous (complete(?) list at List of asteroids). Ewlyahoocom 17:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
So I ask the main editors: are you willing to move these pages/have these pages moved to Wikisource? (I had wrongly assumed that The Singing Badger was the project leader. I've since invited the 2 or 3 other editors that seem to have had a hand in creating these lists and pages but if I've missed anyone please invite them to this discussion.) Ewlyahoocom 08:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Lately, when I enter Wikipedia pages logged-in, it just happens that I get a message about some problem that allows the page to open slowly, asking me whether I would like to abort. Any way, besides logging off, that can keep this from happening in the future?? 66.32.191.204 21:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC) (Note that this is User:Georgia guy not logged in for convenience when it comes to this.)
Has anyone else noticed that our articles about formal are about mathematics and computer science, when the average user is probably going to be looking for formal/informal speech/behaviour/dress/etc. in the etiquette sense? The formal article sums this up in two sentences hidden in the "Other examples" section: " Formal occasions such as a formal dinner party or high tea might require one to wear formal attire such as an evening gown or tuxedo. An example is Formal Hall." and "As an adjective, formal means being in accord with established forms (this links to the article on form - nothing to do with established forms) or the antonym of informal (redirects to computer science article) (or casual)." In fact, the casual and formal wear articles are the only two I could find referring to the common etiquette usage of 'formal' at all! Nothing on formal speech or behaviour or anything! Any ideas? + Hexagon1 ( talk) 13:20, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
What is the policy about adding external links to an article? I have read that an externally-linked site should have minimal advertising and a minimal profit-oriented presentation. Basically I would like to add some links from Wikipedia to some of my website pages 1728 . For example, the Wikipedia article about polygons is very thorough but wouldn't it be good to include a link to a polygon calculator? I was just wondering because I have dozens of calulators at my website and was wondering what your policy would be if I linked Wikipedia to some of these. (My website has been online for 7 years and has never had 1 advertisement and never has requested contributions). Thank you. -- Wolf1728 22:54, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
One editor tried an excellent approach at a page where I edit: they posted a link to the talk page, disclosed their connection to the firm, and asked other editors to evaluate whether it was appropriate. Durova 14:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey there. I'm really new to the network and I love this site. I've been reading a lot recently about changes in the world. I'm planning on moving to a 3rd world country and some things have been of concern to me.. Namely, what conflicts are nearby, should I be worried about diseases, etc...
During my research I started looking into this new Bird Flu Epidemic, wondering if anywhere is safer then the rest.. I saw on your global map that North America is clean of any incidents... Not so. When I was living near Princeton BC, there was a big debate over the millions of chickens they were transporting there to be incinerated..
Perhaps my web searching skills are limited but it took me a long time to find this article and when I did find it, it was on an site based in the Netherlands... Anyone have any input to share with me about this? I find it baffling that such a huge amount of birds being slaughtered could be so hard to find in the local governments database... Am I krazy?
Canada: Protesters block landfill entrance as shipping of avian flu carcasses begins; Plans to burn carcasses at the Similko Mine incinerators are being opposed by nearby Princeton's town council with support from the Okanagan Similkameen Regional Distri Auteur: ton (---.speed.planet.nl) Datum: 15-04-04 00:28
... "There's a little bit of anxiety from people that do that work that we may be introducing an unknown epidemic in the Interior needlessly," he said. ...
++++++++++++++++ canada news
Protesters block landfill entrance as shipping of avian flu carcasses begins
CACHE CREEK, B.C. (CP) - British Columbia's agriculture minister tried to calm residents worried the disposal of avian flu-infected chicken carcasses could spread the disease, but about 100 of them protested by blocking a highway. "This is an emergency situation across the province and it requires a provincewide response like we saw with the forest fires last summer," John van Dongen said at a news conference Tuesday.
Earlier in the day, protesters opposed to the dumping of poultry carcasses at the landfill at the Interior community of Cache Creek blockaded the road into the facility, staring down RCMP in the process.
Van Dongen said no birds have been shipped to Interior landfills or incinerators and transports will not begin until strict protocols are finalized.
He said he hoped those protocols would be established later Tuesday but that any affected communities would receive 24 hours notice of chicken carcasses being shipped.
The minister appealed for assistance from British Colmbians in dealing with the crisis.
"We are not trying to shift our problems somewhere else," van Dongen said.
"I am a farmer myself. I don't want avian influenza in the Interior nor do I want a bunch of rotting carcasses lying in the Fraser Valley because of internal squabbling in British Columbia."
About 19 million birds will be culled in the Fraser Valley, just east of Vancouver, in an effort to wipe out the form of avian influenza that has infected 25 farms.
The birds are to be disposed at landfills in Cache Creek and Chilliwack, in the Fraser Valley, and at incinerators in Princeton in the southern Interior and Burnaby, a Vancouver suburb.
Cache Creek Mayor John Ranta and others in his community are concerned trucking the dead poultry into the Interior raises the possibility the virus will be exported to their region.
Ranta took part in the morning protest and returned for a rally Tuesday afternoon.
He said the community's landfill is not equipped to deal with hazardous and special waste.
He said the provincial government's plan to use the site to dispose of 300 tonnes of carcasses infected with avian flu is a violation of agreements to use the site for household waste.
"We agreed to take household waste," Ranta said. "The province cannot trample the rights of the people.
"It's not just local people that are (angry)," he said. "I've had calls from around the province saying 'Stick to your guns, don't let the province ram this down your throat.' "
Health and agriculture officials have already blamed human traffic for transporting the virus between farms.
Ranta has demanded a meeting with Premier Gordon Campbell to find a solution to the issue.
The area around Cache Creek is dotted with cattle ranges but Ranta said exotic birds such as pheasants and ostriches are raised commercially in the area.
"There's a little bit of anxiety from people that do that work that we may be introducing an unknown epidemic in the Interior needlessly," he said.
"It's seems like a ludicrous prospect to transport diseased chickens around the province," he said. "(Authorities) should not risk, sort of, the cross-contamination of the province."
The protesters believe the carcasses are a problem for B.C.'s Lower Mainland and should be disposed of there.
RCMP Sgt. Jerry Fiddick said the mood at the protest was peaceful.
"They're just not willing to move," the commander of the five-man detachment said. "We're not calling in anyone extra at this point."
RCMP officials from the nearby Kamloops district detachment are monitoring the situation, however.
The entrance to the landfill is on the Trans-Canada Highway, which the police intend to keep open.
At least one truck was prevented from entering the landfill, even though it was not carrying dead birds.
The demonstration was organized by Chief Mike Retasket of the Bonaparte Indian band.
In addition to disposing of birds in Cache Creek, others are being put in the Chilliwack landfill 160 kilometres east of Vancouver. Others will be incinerated at two locations, one in Burnaby and the other near Princeton, B.C.
Plans to burn carcasses at the Similko Mine incinerators are being opposed by nearby Princeton's town council with support from the Okanagan Similkameen Regional District.
It's not the incinerating that worries Mayor Keith Olsen.
Rather, it's the area's high rate of motor vehicle accidents around the area's bridges that worries him. He fears a crash involving carcass trucks could spill infected birds into creeks that feed into the Similkameen River.
"If it got into the Similkameen River, it goes all the way down through the Similkameen Valley, down across the line and eventually into the Columbia (River)," Olsen said.
"It could have real bad repercussions if there was an accident."
Van Dongen said experts will be holding town hall meetings in the affected communities to assure people and to answer their questions.
Chilliwack Mayor Clint Hames has received some calls of concern, but he said he's satisfied there is no health threat to humans or animals.
"We want to be part of the solution. Farming is our bread and butter here," Hames said.
"The long-term risks are non-existent. These birds, once they get composted, are going to cook up real fast and that eliminates the virus."
Van Dongen said authorities held a test burn at the Burnaby incinerator and will hold a second one before working out a timeline for when the chickens will be incinerated. ++++++++++++++++ Bron: MyTelus, April 13, 2004 http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=canada_home&articleID=1584144
Change town name: Padang Panjang (separated) became "Padangpanjang" (not separated)
Dear en.wikipedia op/sysop, I am contributor from id.wikipedia, Indonesia citizen, Padangpanjang is my hometown... and new to en.wikipedia.
Padangpanjang is one small city in west sumatra province, Minangkabau, Indonesia. The written of Padangpanjang as "Padang Panjang" ( written separated) as in en.wikipedia do is wrong.Actually Padangpanjang city originally named and written as "Padangpanjang" (not separated).You can see [ Indonesian Wikipedia] about Padangpanjang for further recomendations in Padangpanjang naming system.
Can you help me change this fault to the right one it should be?
Then help please move the content of article about "Padang Panjang" into "Padangpanjang" (should be written not separated).
Thanks... Hendry Allen 05:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
All the red links have turned black (though they're still active links) and are followed by a red question mark in my browser. What's going on here? Is this a new "feature"? How come no one told me? Do I get to vote on whether I like it or not? D e nni ☯ 01:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
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The above is the browsebar, which nowadays shows up in a lot of places on Wikipedia. See discussion about it at Template talk:Browsebar#Is this bar useful?. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov ( talk) 22:59, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Good day,
Does anyone know what is Wikipedia's longest article?
I have been asking myself this question for a long time know, and I was wondering if anyone knew the answer.
Thanks a lot,
Guimauve2
As a rule, articles shouldn't exceed a limit. Longer articles are broken into pages. 132.239.90.150 18:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
World War I and World War II could be up there, at 86kb a and 83kb, respectively. Kafziel 18:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
It might be List of townships in Minnesota in terms of visible text, or List of Statutory Instruments of the United Kingdom, 1996 if Wikitext is included, because of the numerous external links. There is a page Special:Longpages, but it's possible that that list is significantly outdated. Ardric47 08:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Change the panama canal article please. It has some unfortunate and misintreprented lines that shames this article. You will know what I mean when you pass the "toll" section as well as the "current issue" section of this article.
I would like to announce the start of the WikiProject Sicily, to fill in the many gaps that currently exist on the political structures, geography, culture and history of Sicily and related biographies of Sicilians. Please come to the above project page to register your interest. There is still a fair bit to translate from Italian and Sicilian - it's only early days yet. For starters, most of the Sicilian municipalities (comuni or cumuna) need to be done. Otherwise I would appreciate any input from anyone who knows anything about setting up project pages. Thanking you in anticipation. Grazzî assai e salutamu! ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 10:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Earlier tonight I created an account on the Commons to upload a couple images that are in the public domain. I don't forsee ever really checking the Commons account very often at all since I just used it for those two images. Is this a common thing? Are there many English Wikipedians who have virtually dormant accounts at the Commons? Just curious... Dismas| (talk) 06:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
On Wikipedia:ISBN I see:
When?! I've never heard about this. Ashibaka tock 15:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
-edit- when I first posted this request I was unaware of WP:PR, thanks to Gadfium I know now. hence previous request has been moved to WP:PR#9/11 conspiracy theories for sake of coherence. Please go there if you wanna participate in this review. All comments and addition to improve the overall quality of 9/11 conspiracy theories are still welcome. Izwalito 07:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Is anyone trying to clear up the back log on the material that has been moved over to Commons? For example, at the moment there are 7,425 items tagged {{NowCommons}} and further 1,242 that are tagged {{NowCommonsThis}}. Any admin suffering from moderate/severe editcountitis could easily bolster their edit count by clearing this up. -- Lendu 17:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
What an apt title would that be for anyone wishing to cover the recent corporate response by Britannica to Nature's study. This phrase - "We stand by our editorial decision" etc. - is used dozens of times in response to reviewer's criticisms. Just imagine that, the Britannica monolith helplessly "standing by" as more agile competitors overcome it :)
Seriously, it's very instructive reading. It's interesting how closed, defensive, and corporateish they choose to look - and apparently they're proud of that. Their only goal was obviously to stave off as much criticism as possible, to strike back, to triumph. All of their energy went into discrediting Wikipedia, the Nature, and the reviewers. (They even chose not to call Wikipedia an encyclopedia - no, it's just a "database." What a pathetic bite.)
They indicate errors in the reviewers' criticisms. That's fine, but hey, if the reviewers did wrongly accuse Britannica of non-existent errors, isn't it likely that they did the same to Wikipedia? Or were the reviewers biased against Britannica? Fortunately, Britannica does not claim _that_. But it does present a healthy dose of double standards - like referring to similar criticisms as "fundamental shortcomings" in Wikipedia and "editorial decisions" in Britannica.
I think it's enough to compare the responses of the two encyclopedias to the same event to see who owns the future.
Per WP:BITE, I'd like to get to a position where we have a collection of "friendly" templates for use in user Talk space in relation to deletion and other housekeeping actions. I have nn-userfy for userfied autobiographies and user-nnband for non-notable bands speedied under A7, I am sure there's an AfD friendly notice somewhere around, and there is obvious scope for more, many of which may indeed already exist. It would be good to collect them at WP:UTM as a class. What do other people think? Just zis Guy you know? 14:30, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
This survey is conducted amongst Wpians. One million people in the world did contribute to one million articles in the English WP. I should like to collect more precise facts about that event that took place around Feb. 2006.
The survey is launched simultaneously in Reference Desk/Misc and Village Pump/Misc.Please only give an answer here ; results, if of any help, can become a [ [Wikipedia:million survey] ] entry.
Reference deskers should only be allowed to guess and Village pumpers should try to give accurate numbers. Then we’ll mix results.
1) How many words did each user write in WP (main) ?
2) How many are left by user after refactoring, &c. ?
3) In which countries are located those users ?
4) What kind of curve depicts the distribution of contributions per user ?
5) How many hits reach the most accessed pages in WP ( our statistics are as old as 2004) ?
6) What are the fact numbers and comparisons that could be exploited in paper, broadcast or web media to promote WP (like "The population of Fiji, or Estonia, or one quarter of Toronto ... contributed ..." or "This project compares only to the Pyramids for the number of people involved.")
Thank you for your answers. -- DLL 20:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Simplification is not my goal. A panel of article histories may be analysed and help better understanding of the true making of WP. See also WP:RD/M. -- DLL 20:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
if you go to my userpage, you will notice a link to a subpage for what my wikipedia entry would look like if I had one. I would encourage others to do the same. My userpage has a section for you to add links to these. However, please make it a subpage, and make it look like a genuine wikipedia entry (not like an Uncyclopedia entry.) Smartyshoe 12:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Anybody know which article has the most interwiki links? India has the most that I could find. Tuf-Kat 23:35, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi...
Not sure if this is the right place but wondering if an admin could look at this.
Bonnyrigg article keeps getting vandalised by someone with IP 88.108.64.209
Have changed back a few times to no avail.
Can someone temporary block/warn them/whatever gets done.
Many thanks
As per this message left for Jimbo, I am deeply troubled by the "end notes" style of links in certain articles. I am convinced that this style of external links is degrading the quality of the wiki. See Rationale to impeach George W. Bush and Killian documents for example pages with this problem. Merecat 08:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
I've added mention of the alleged sex assault controversy to the Duke University page. While I spent a while writing it up, I don't really want to have to monitor it much further (I'm busy and not an American so the issue only holds limited interest to me). But I was shocked to discover the issue wasn't mentioned at all in the article before I added it. Is anyone willing to take over and update as necessary? Hopefully other wikipedians will do so without me asking but having seen it not mentioned at all until now, I'm somewhat disillusioned and I'm a bit afraid it will just dissappear Nil Einne 21:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't believe the subject of the Jay Alexander article actually goes by "Jay". According to the IMDb and the credits of America's Next Top Model, he goes by "J." Can anyone show me I'm wrong? If not, I'm going to move the article to J. Alexander. - dcljr ( talk) 19:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC) Note: I don't even know if his full first name really is Jay, as opposed to, say, John or something else. - dcljr ( talk) 22:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I contibute for wikipedia fr and I ask myself if i can translate a proof of planetmath.org into french and put in in wikipedia.
Thanks all for any answer. Utilisateur:Oxyde
First, sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place. This seems quite interesting. Check out this link it seems to suggest that Bono may be a wikipedia vandal! (Gasp!) Amusing, eh!
Help! Someone's killed the Accolade article that I wrote over a year ago! Now it redirects to embrace, of all places. It was an article on the game company. It was longish and full of details. Now it's gone and looking at the page's history, my original versions (and all the other edits by other Wikipedia editors) are gone! What happened to it?
This happened to another article I wrote on Trip Hawkins years ago. Someone vandalised the page and an admin deleted it. It was restored a few days later, but I have no idea how long the Accolade article's been gone ( Google cache of the article). Can someone help me find out what happened? TIA — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:06, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
The backlog on Wikipedia:Copyright problems has grown over one month now. → A z a Toth 03:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia serves as all Wiki Projects' highest form of governemnt; I don't think that's right. I think that Wikimedia should be where Help, Reference Desk, Proposals, Policy, etc. should be located. Also, Beer Parlour & Tea Room should be deleted, etc. & if there are any other institutions like as mentioned in this comment, then they should be deleted to. User pages should also be consolidated into 1 central location, namely Wikimedia, or a separate place, but these are draft ideas, but the general idea, would organize Wikimedia & save resources. Taking the point of saving resources, Accounts should be allowed to be deleted.
Please leave one if you'd like more clarification on this issue. You could also contact me <redact> [since they haven't instituted the option to delete your account, made their own licence, or the GNU licence hasn't changed yet, I haven't signed up].
thanks
24.70.95.203 14:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello english wikipedians, a question with no relation with the Wiki (:
I'm going to London in one month (and maybe this summer) with two friends. We're looking for an apartment (for one week or a little bit more), does it exist some systems where rents a room or an apartment for a so short time in England?
If you know websites talking about this it were cool to give it to me (: Excuse my english, thank you in advance ^^ Tvpm 12:40, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
I have frequently had an unpleasant experience when looking up mathematical terms in Wpedia. I go to the article I want and, reading the definition of the term, I encounter another term I don't understand. If there is a link connected to the term I open a new tab to find the definition of the second term. In reading the second definition I find the need to look up a third, then a forth, fifth, sixth. I am soon swamped by "hanging" definitions. But, not infrequently, a term is used without any attempt to define it. Do mathematicians write these articles only to communicate with other mathematicians? Surely an encyclopedia is meant to educate people about things they don't already know. Too Old 21:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I felt this article could have some amusing tangential parallels to Wikipedia. [9] - Roy Boy 800 06:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I've started moving football player articles, that were titled, for example: Joe Roth (football) to Joe Roth (football player). I've been thinking that they should be consistent throughout with regards to their titles. So I'm just wondering if anyone could offer some advice on if it would be a bad idea to move football players whose articles are titled, for example: Jim Miller (quarterback) to Jim Miller (football player). KnowledgeOfSelf 16:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I see no problem with calling them all "football player," where that is sufficient to disambiguate. Remember that the point of this is only to disambiguate; the actual explanation of what sport we are talking about should be in the article. Christopher Parham (talk) 09:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
The link to her movie "Swing Shift" takes the view to another movie--an unrelated short by the same name.
There are following messages in pop-ups of buttons at the top of a page of every article:
As you can see, popups of buttons for edit and history has full stops, the rest of - hasn't got. I think it should be standardised. Visor 11:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
What's the longest serious article in Wikipedia?
Elmer Clark 23:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Please comment on the proposal Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Parkinson Factor. `' mikka (t) 19:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Viewable at wikipediaforums.proboards106.com note: This is not a substitute for the villiage pump. The forums are mainly for discussing things about wikipedia that do ntot fit in to the villiage pump (such as user wiki articles, like the one I created here) and just life in general. Now, the villiage pump is mainly for technical issues and help issues, this will be for everything else. Is there any way to either link to it or incorperate it into this website? NOTE: if you type www before the URL it won't load.
There's a new WikiProject involving investigating sources people may use for articles, such as EB. Take a look at it: Wikipedia:WikiProject Reference Investigation. 204.8.195.187 13:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that in wikihtml, when we edit, formating has extra space, for example, when we edit a comment, there's a space between the $Subject/headline:$ & the content of the message. Another example is $== Extra Space ==$ is also the same as $==Extra Space==$. Does this make comments larging in size as bytewise? Even if not, it could create confusion. So I guess Mediawiki needs to be tweaked/the devlopers\the codes needs a little editing?
Please leave one if you'd like more clarification on this issue. You could also contact me <redact> [since they haven't instituted the option to delete your account, made their own licence, or the GNU licence hasn't changed yet, I haven't signed up].
thanks
24.70.95.203 20:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to request that editors refrain from adding {{ wikify}} tags to certain articles. ([ [10]] is not equivalent to cleanup). 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica articles articles are particularly troublesome. Some of the articles are fine and don't need to be updated or don't need extensive updating. Other articles are out of date, but brief enough (a medium-sized paragraph, or at most, two) so that wikification is not a big deal if the material is eventually deleted. However, some of the articles are very long and out of date (one article that I worked on was about 30 pages long in Microsoft Word, single-spaced). Such articles should not be wikified in their current state because the out of date material will eventually be deleted or rewritten. It can easily take an hour or longer to wikify and do non-content cleanup (formatting, spelling, punctuation, missing text), especially if there are a lot of OCR errors. I suppose you could just add links, but most of us like to do more than a half-assed job (I use three-quarters ass, minimum). Instead of tagging for wikification, I suggest adding an update or rewrite tag instead. There is a tag specifically for these articles, {{ 1911POV}}, but I disagree with its use because it is inaccurate. Except for some spectacularly racist articles, most 1911 EB articles have a fairly neutral point of view.
There are other articles that should not be tagged for wikification, as well. They include out of date articles from other sources, articles that need rewriting, articles needing extensive cleanup and articles to be merged. These articles are likely to have substantial amounts of text that is rewritten, rearranged and/or deleted (rearrangement is a problem because only the first instance of a term should be linked in most cases). I'll explain further about articles to be merged so that it is clear why they are included. First, they often have redundant text that will be deleted. Also, the text that is added to the other article is often rearranged, leading to the wrong instance of a term being linked. Finally, articles to be merged are likely to have the same terms, so redundant links may also be created if the articles are wikified.
As for articles nominated for one of the three deletion methods, I guess it's a matter of opinion. If the tags are not removed, or are added during or after a nomination, a substantial amount of articles in Category:Articles that need to be wikified will be nominated for deletion. It's quite annoying when you click on five articles in a row and find them all nominated for deletion (speedy, prod or AfD). This annoyance is worse now that we sort the articles by the month they were tagged because there are a lot of editors working on the same articles. When we get down to the last articles, most and eventually all of them are tagged for deletion if the tags are not removed because the other ones have been wikified or marked as copyright violations. Each editor will waste time clicking through the articles trying to find the few not nominated for deletion (when the site is running slow, this can take a long time). Another downside is that a user may wikify an article that ends up being deleted anyway. However, if the article is not deleted, it will need to be retagged if no one has cleaned it up to avoid deletion. Removing and readding the tag is not very difficult and there is now a robot that tags completely unlinked articles, so I favor removing the tag, especially when the article is very likely to be deleted.
I don't want to seem unappreciative of those who add wikify tags because I'm not. However, if they were more selectively added, I think it would help a lot. Thanks, Kjkolb 04:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to come in and say that it's fun reading the old mailing list archives from 2003. Aside from me being embarassed right now at how naive I was as a 12 year old, it's fun to see people saying things like "I hope we can move to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship...and remove the mailing list method" or "I would like Wikipedia to come up on a google search of The Beatles, but we're probably a long way away from that". Whoo — Ilyan e p (Talk) 18:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
By the way ,when did shortcuts (like WP:VP) start appearing? — Ilyan e p (Talk) 18:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I have owned for about twenty years a curious brass object resembling a wind chime consisting of the word suncycle in vertical formation and it reads both front to back. I believe this to be a concrete poetry multiple by Kenelm Cox 1968 and certain it was displayed in an exhibition entitled Multiples at the Ikon Gallery,Birminghm UK.
There is I think similar in Southampton City Art Gallery, Southampton UK.
Does anyone know more about Kenelm Cox?
you guys r soooo, extremely great! these sisters of WIKI are Awesome! KEEP UP the superb work! im sooo amazed and impressed by all of your hard work @.@~
best wishes to all of you, kat
Join us, and together we shall rule the galaxy as father and son. Er, I mean, as Wikipedians! __earth ( Talk)
I've seen this quite a bit over the days. An anon will revert nonsense...that they put in. For exampleWhat is it? Siblings fighting over a computer? Kids in a computer lab? Any speculations on this behavior? -- Mmx1 21:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually they don't — they write about us all the time, and most of it is very fair and (reasonably) informative. But today's Technology section has a story — linked from the front page of the website — written by Andrew Orlowski, and featuring quotes from Robert McHenry, Encyclopædia Britannica, Daniel Brandt, and some (apparently new) site called WikiTruth. It's like all our nemesii have come together for one final push to destroy us. Man the barricades!
Of course, once you cut past Orlowski's "journalism", the article makes some valid points about Wikipedia's accuracy, reliability, and deterioration of quality, but frankly any Wikipedian of long standing knows about these issues, and knows they're nothing new. What's more interesting is the comment from Will Davies of IPPR, who makes the point that people in this " information age" try and mask their lack of understanding of issues by surrounding themselves with more and more data. For that purpose, Wikipedia is very useful as a massive collection of data — not without boundaries, but more like an almanac of one-liners and bulletpoints, rather than an encyclopedia along Britannica lines. Hell, one of our policies effectively works to discourage creative writing, making it so much harder to get the kind of analysis that some of our topics need.
The solution to this seems to be one of perception. Surely there is a place in this world for a big dumping ground of facts, provided that everyone understands that that is (one of the things) Wikipedia does. Case in point — only yesterday a friend of mine said he just found out anyone could edit Wikipedia. He'd thought it was "a proper encyclopedia". I know this is a radical suggestion, but perhaps we should stop using that word, if that's what is causing confusion and getting certain people's backs up. Then, when people browse the site and come across a lengthy article, they will be pleasantly surprised. "Wow, I didn't realise Wikipedia had things like this in it — I thought it was just a collection of lists." Wikipedia — the free dumping ground for all knowledge that anyone can edit — got quite a ring to it, don't you think? — sjorford (talk) 11:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC) Disclaimer: this is not meant to be taken entirely seriously...
I have re-designed and completed the Turkey portal, I'm looking for your comments. -- Teemeah 16:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I know, a basic principle is "anyone can create an article". But over half of incoming articles are deletable as advertising, nonsense, attacks, or vandalism. Dealing with this dreck takes up considerable effort, and some of it slips through. Does anyone collect statistics on how users improve? How many users have a first article that has to be deleted and then go on to write something useful to Wikipedia? That would be worth knowing. -- John Nagle 18:47, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Your verdict is correct but we hate you!
Lotsofissues 22:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
This is how a Wall Street Journal front page article on the Britannica v. Wikipedia dispute concluded: Mr. Wales says he was "pleased" with Nature's study, but adds, "It's hardly true we're as good as Britannica." He says he was glad Nature chose to compare science-related themes "because on history and the social sciences, we're much weaker." In other areas -- including computer science and the history of "Star Trek," he says, Wikipedia is "way better."
As Britannica moves to discredit Wikipedia, Jimbo steps aside and agrees.
Can you please point out Britannica's motives first?--or give someone else the spokesperson responsibility.
Lotsofissues 00:19, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
In almost all interviews, it's alright to be humble and sincere. But not when we are defending ourselves against Britannica management, who do not seek a balanced evaluation. They want to make us radioactive. Jimbo shouldn't have conceded the momentum to them. He should have stood by our science articles. Britannica does not look vengeful; they look correct because Jimbo gave the most diminutive answer possible. Lotsofissues
Maybe Jimbo Wales should've said "It's hardly true we're as good as Britannica...yet..." whilst raising an eyebrow and giving an evil grin. Maniacal laugh purely optional. ---- Bobak 20:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/172.169.58.156 -- Maxamegalon2000 03:05, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Specifically, some kind of template to wrapper an external link with text that would encourage future editors to shamelessly rape and pillage it for more information. In other words, I have found a source where we can get information for the article, but I don't have the time or inclination to actually expand the article now. But I want some future person to do that, rather than just leave the link there as further reading. Does such a thing exist?
Where do I announce to all of Wikipedia the existence of Wikipedia:Paranormal Watchers w/o being accused of "spamming", advertising ? This is NOT either of these. This is a Wikipedia Organization that is for and about Wikipedians who have had paranormal experiences, investigate these matters. Martial Law 02:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC) :)
The textbox in the side-frame has the word "Search" above it, despite defaulting to being a 'go to' box and search being only its secondary function. Given that there's a button that says 'search' directly beneath the box (and encapsulated within the same box) the caption seems misleading and redundant. Can it be removed? Irrevenant 00:46, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, as I am but a timid n00b. (If someone could point me in the right direction that would be marvellous.) Is there a standard for genealogical trees to be included in articles on families, genealogies and dynasties? I've noticed a dearth of them and I think they would be really helpful for quite a few articles (yay diagrams!). Does anyone know where I could get more information on Wikipedia policies/designs for this? Thanks! Tamarkot 01:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
It's well-recognized that most new user articles aren't very good, and most have to be fixed or deleted. This is an inherent result of the way Wikipedia is set up. It looks like a blog; anyone can create a new article, which gets them a blank text box to fill in.
Constructing a Wikipedia article is a complex task, requiring knowledge of about ten pages worth of Wikipedia policies, the formatting syntax, at least a few of the templates, and the ability to write to Wikipedia's house style. Yet all we give new users is an empty box. So, of course, the new users don't get it right.
Then the RC patrollers dump on them. Some of the new users get annoyed, and we have to go through the whole AfD process. The whole system is almost designed to bite new users and to be labor intensive.
I've suggested a form-based system for new articles in common categories (bands, movies, albums, TV, etc.), so that new uses would get the format and basic info correct on the first try. Anyone else have a better idea? Something like Microsoft's Clippy, maybe? ("You seem to be writing an article about a Pokemon. Would you like assistance"). -- John Nagle 16:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
It purports to be of her from "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie."
I've seen the movie three times, the latest, 20 minutes ago.
The photo is of her but not, I believe, from that film. The dress is all wrong for the part; I don't remember it from the movie; and she appears slightly older in the photo than she does in the film.
I read all the prompts as to how to alert someone regarding this and found none of them fit this situation--so I went the misc. route.
I just trawled through a set of articles on humanitarian aid organisations that do not seem to exist in reality. Though there is a webpage for the organisation, its purpose is murky. It came to my mind that 419 scammers might use Wikipedia to make their organisations look real/good. I am still not sure that this is the case in this particular event, but it will probably happen if it hasn't already. Wikipedia could get entagled in legalities following an event like that. rxnd ( t | € | c ) 23:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm a college student in New York and would just like to say that wikipedia.org is an amazing encyclopedia. It has an enormous amount of interesting facts on a plethora of topics. I've learned so many intriguing facts and used this encyclopedia for many school projects. Keep up the good work! thanks.
I have a real problem with people who don't like what kind of edit I've made, and then instead of asking me about it or just giving me the benefit of the doubt, they'll leave me a message and beat me over the head with policy and their personal ideas about "consensus." Why can't these people just be honest and state their views instead of being patronizing? I'm not a child, and I'm not new here. A similar problem is shown by those people who quote WP:AGF or Wikipedia:Civility when someone (not just me) is being honest. What the hell is up with all these appeals to authority? I'm not looking to solve any particular dispute, I'm just wondering why people can't just say what's on their minds without immediately quoting policy and some imagined consensus as a way of putting pressure on others. Brian G. Crawford 00:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I understand why people get upset at deletionists, even if we do perform a necessary function. I just hate getting policy thrown at me when I know very well I haven't violated any. I've seen this done to plenty of others too. Brian G. Crawford 17:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Britannica had an article on Frank Woolley, a great English cricketer, who lived the last few years of his life in Canada. The Britannica article on him called him a 'Canadian cricketer' which is as bad an error as, for instance, if the long retired Argentinian footballer Diego Maradona is called a 'Japanese footballer' by an encyclopaedia in its introduction because he became a citizen of Japan in 2006.
The policy of granting an admin status to a user who has been around long enough does not work so smoothly on foreign language wikis (notably relatively younger wikis with fewer users and articles). My concerns is current situation at Georgian site ka:ვიკიპედია. Most of the earlier admins are no longer available and only one active, relatively novice admin remains. There are a few other regular users who actively contributing on a weekly basis. Since Georgian version uses its own alphabet reaching an agreement on a proper spelling of a foreign name is almost always problematic (if there is someone around). But recently our omnipotent admin with unlimited rights started taking liberty on assuming what's wrong and right, deleting redirect pages without fist posting any comments on the discussion page. Requesting a reason have almost always resulted in an offensive exchange. It begins to resemble a soviet dictatorship, we recently got rid of... The problem is there is no back up to challenge the authority of this admin. Is there any way to request other non-active admins to return and check the status of affairs at least on a weekly basis or assign a new additional admin from active users/moderators? Any comments would be appreciated. Alsandro 00:16, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
There is no equivalent of WP:RFA at /KA (Georgian)/ and, besides, I don't know who would I name, there are very few experienced users on that mirror who would be eligible and have enough time to contribute regularly. I am speaking out of frustration, there is no one to warn the current admin when she overtakes the limit and I'm starting to loose temper. I don't really want to be an admin, just need peace of mind and competent people to deal with. Alsandro 17:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Is there a policy related to authoring an article about onesself? IOW, I want to write a short biography (in third person)of myself. Is this within policy/rules? If so, downsides? Thanks, Carey Fisher
Apparently, someone has placed at least one redirect in Wikipedia to make Wikireason look like like a namespace for it, e.g., [[wikireason:Distributed unconsciousness|Distributed unconsciousness]]. User:H0riz0n placed this in the "See also" section of Spirituality to make it look like a Wikipedia artilce. This user has another redirect, [[wikireason:The Natural Taoist]] on his user page. At Wikireason, they state, "Wikireason is not affiliated with Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation." Wikireason:Welcome. I'm sure this is a violation of a Wikipolicy somewhere. 4.224.138.208 17:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
p.s. I know Wikireason is listed on the Wikimedia Interwiki map. I just think making a non-Wikipedia article look like it is part of this encyclopedia is blatant misrepresentation. 4.225.107.208 19:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure this is the right place for this question, please tell me if not. Image:Picasso with cloak.jpg, a painting by Pablo Picasso dated 1901 has been tagged {{PD-art-US}}. However, it hasn't been first published in the US AFAIK, so I wonder if the tag is correct. My guess is that this is a copyright violation. Thanks. -- Cruccone 13:23, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Many wikis, in particular the more speciazed ones, have copied information from Wikipedia which, assuming the licensing is compatible, is a Good Thing. Are there policies covering the reverse situation -- i.e., copying a good article from another (compatible) wiki to Wikipedia?
In particular, the article for Metropolia on the OrthodoxWiki is a nice and accurate disambiguation page. The current article for Metropolia in Wikipedia is a redirect to Metropolite, which is itself a redirect to Metropolitan -- which isn't quite right. I'd like to copy the OrthodoxWiki version over to here. Is this acceptable? If so, how should credit be properly noted? Anyway, thanks. ArglebargleIV 19:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Add a References section then link to the version of the original article that you copied over, with a comment like, "The original version of this article was derived from ..." User:Zoe| (talk) 22:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
[13] talks about some person named kyle in canda requesting 5$ by check to mail stuff... WTF is that about?
If this is a scam (I believe it is), it should be removed and page should be protected.
-- Cat out 10:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be "Jewinsh" websites? I have never heard the term "Judaist" before. Dave 18:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know where I can find information on WikipediA's treasury? Or its financial statements, its annual/monthly spendings, income etc? Pseudoanonymous 01:20, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I was thinking about donating, but I wasn't about to do so without knowing where the money is going or how it is spent. I also wanted the budget for my proposal, which is to put ads on Wikipedia and all the sites under wikimedia; if the majority don't mind. With the budget I can suggest what the ads are going to pay for. Pseudoanonymous 19:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering if this wikipedia has a bot that does that... does it? -- Extremophile 00:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, hardly a bot could recognize whether someone quoting a huge part of a wikipedia´s article was a copyright infringement or just someone quoting... I didn´t think of that... also, a bot would search only for online material of irrestricted access, and perhaps some copies are done from manually copying books... seems that we better still look for copyright infringements on wikipedia like it was done in the time of our grandpas... but I just thought of something that, at least to my limited knowledge on bots, seems that could work... rather than a whitelist... it could search from a blacklist of possible sources of copyrighted material... and nowe I´m highly suspicious that it´s not viable... this black list could include even printed books, if someone could create a bot that manages to search within google books database... -- Extremophile 04:56, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Here's how I'd do it. Scan all new pages. Copy the first 30 words or so and google search them (first 30 words shouldn't be a quote). If it gets a hit add it to a list of suspected copyvios. Also add all long pages with a small amount of wiki-syntax to the list. Shouldn't be too hard. Adding in the mirrors makes it harder though. You'd need a whitelist. Most long pages without syntax are copyvios though, so you might not need to use google to make accurate calls. Still a lot of work though, maybe TurnItIn.com would like to donate their services... Broken Segue 02:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I apologize if this is not the right place to post this, but I could find no better place. I am writing this message to inform the Wikipedia community of a decision recently made by Wikisource to exclude reference material. This includes all cryptographic, mathematical, scientific, and source code material. On the multilingual Wikisource the deletion has already begun, and on the English Wikisource, the deletion will begin shortly. I am not active here, so I do not know what pages here link to the articles on Wikisource, but I am alerting the community that the links will have to be changed.
If anyone wants to save the information on Wikisource, notify me, and I'll undelete the pages so that the information can be copied to a different place. I apologize for throwing this on you (I had hoped we would slowly delete the pages so as to avoid a lot of frustration in trying to find and correct links), but the deletion on the English sub-domain will hopefully proceed more slowly. I can most easily be reached on my English Wikisource talk page, but I will be checking my multi-lingual Wikisource talk page as well.— Zhaladshar (Talk) 19:24, 30 April 2006 (UTC)