Final (236/1/0); Closed as successful by Maxim(talk) at 22:45, 14 October 2022 (UTC) reply
Nomination
Isabelle Belato (
talk·contribs) – It's my absolute pleasure to present to you Isabelle Belato for consideration for adminship. In 2020 all of a sudden their name started appearing all over my watchlist given our mutual interest in children's literature. I quickly learned that they were a highly capable editor, no doubt due to their work on Portuguese Wikipedia where they'd edited for a number of years before switching focus to English. Part of what made them so good, so fast, was not just their previous wiki experience, but their being unafraid to ask good questions to learn and grow combined with a warm and collaborative disposition. They have used their skill to improve numerous articles, including bringing four up to Good Article.
Over the past year I have seen them grow into an incredibly respected closer of discussions doing an excellent job of closing high profile and difficult discussions, including most recently the 2022
ACE RfC. I have had my eye on Isabelle as a future admin for quite some time and I am thrilled to be here today asking you to join me today in supporting them.
Barkeep49 (
talk) 01:52, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Co-nomination
I'm thrilled to be co-nominating an editor who exemplifies what
being here is all about — Isabelle has proven their competence both in policy (as Barkeep49 alludes to above) and in the curation of content (to which their GA
Julián Is a Mermaid speaks clearly).
Isabelle has kept away from editing content in the more contentious areas of Wikipedia (and this is no bad thing!), yet has shown an ability to keep cool and answer queries civilly in the rare cases where discussions had got heated.
These qualities, along with their need for the tools to more effectively maintain our content, bring me to ask just one final question — will you join us in supporting this wholly qualified candidate for adminship? —
TheresNoTime (
talk • they/them) 09:26, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I'm happy to accept Barkeep's and TNT's nomination, and thank both of them for their kind words. I have never edited for pay. I never edited Wikipedia before creating this account, Before creating this account, I edited with a
different one (see answer to question 5 below). but I have a disclosed alternate account which I use to edit while on public networks.
Isabelle🏳🌈 21:03, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:
1. Why are you interested in becoming an administrator?
A: As someone who spends a lot of time patrolling recent changes, the tools would be helpful in preventing vandalism, as well as working on revdel'ing edit revisions and summaries when necessary. Most importantly, I spend a lot of time closing discussions, including more complex and contentious ones, and while
non-admin closing is a thing, some can only be closed by vetted members of the community, either due to technical reasons (bans/blocks), or due to perception (eg.: the recent Fox News RfC). As an administrator, it would show the community trusts my ability in assessing and closing these discussions. I'd also help in other areas where administrators might be needed, and offer assistance when I could be helpful.
2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
A: When it comes to content editions, I'm very proud of all the articles I've created, especially those about queer people and their works, as writing these articles is a way to learn about them. A specific article would be The Lodger, which I stumbled upon one day and decided to improve when I learned it was one of the foundational works on the myth of Jack the Ripper. I also loved writing about Scary Stories for Young Foxes, which I ended up reading during my research and managed to improve it to GA status. Outside of mainspace, I've recently closed the "
Updating BLOCKEVIDENCE" RfC. A somewhat long discussion that shows consensus is not only about whether editors agree or disagree with the options offered in the opening statement, but also what is being discussed by participants.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: The content areas I edit are usually very calm, but I've participated in some stressful discussions here and there. While I always try my best to keep my calm and oftentimes will avoid replying when I know it won't help advance the discussion, I remember being unnecessarily rude to a user in a discussion over
userboxes.
I apologized to them after the fact and haven't had any altercations like that with any other users, to the best of my knowledge.
You may ask optional questions below. There is a
limit of two questions per editor. Multi-part questions disguised as one question, with the intention of evading the limit, are disallowed. Follow-up questions relevant to questions you have already asked are allowed.
4. Would you agree to participate in some form of recall process if the community felt it necessary to pursue it?
A: I'm not sure if this will answer your question satisfactorily, but I'd be "willing to stand for 're-confirmation' of adminship" if any number of editors I look up to and respect asked for such in my talk page.
5. Did you use another account to edit the Portuguese Wikipedia between 2007 and 2009?
A:As far as I remember, I've only ever edited with this account, though I did edit under a different username for a lot of my tenure in the Portuguese Wikipedia until I asked for the account to be renamed in 2020.
I'm striking my original answer to this question since I was made aware that I, indeed, edited the Portuguese Wikipedia under
a different account at that time period. While I didn't remember its existence, I can confirm it was mine. At some point in early 2009 I decided to abandon it and utilize a different account, which is the one I have now (though it went through a rename request in 2020). I apologize for this lapse of memory.
6. What do you consider the most important of our priciples ~
pillars &
PAGs?
A: To me the most important concept has always been neutrality. While I do have strong opinions and views on a variety of topics, as all people do, I've always done my best to not let that influence my editing of Wikipedia, especially in content space, and obviously when closing discussions. While I don't think some people understand what NPOV means in Wikipedia terms, this is what has allowed us, as a community, to cover a huge range of subjects, contentious or not, while also respecting reliability and our policy on BLP.
7. Your signature reads "Isabelle", but doesn't make clear your full username, which can confuse newcomers. Would you consider changing it?
A: Thanks for the question,
Bilorv. I've been reading the discussion below and I can see how not having one's full username in their signature could become an issue at times. I appreciate all those who participated in it, but I think
Gusfriend makes a good point about newcomers possibly having issues with this (or even mobile users, as some mentioned), even if it's a small one. Since there is absolutely no cost to me in changing my signature to ensure these kinds of issues don't happen, I went ahead and changed it.
8. As an admin, it's often expected or requested to help other editors especially new users, by dealing with disputes, either resolving them or pointing the participants to proper venues for resolution and also editors who requests some permissions outside RFP(Rollback,IPBE etc). How do you see yourself in these aspect of an Admin's role?
A: Even before moving to the English Wikipedia I used to mentor new users and help at the Portuguese Wikipedia's equivalent to the
Help Desk. Here, not only did I continue this work, I was also an early participant of the
mentorship system introduced by the
Growth Team. I've always tried my best to inform
greenhorns about how to edit, create articles, where to go to find more information on what they are seeking, or how to proceed during a dispute. I don't see that changing if I were to become an administrator. I hope that answers your question.
A: While I do intend on helping around with the various administrative tasks, I imagine not at first, no. Just as with any other activity I've done on Wikipedia, I will start by learning the tools and, as I grow more confident and used to them, will participate in these tasks to help keep the queues clear or as the need arises.
10. You state in Q1 that access to revdelete is one of the primary reasons for requesting the toolset. How or why would you judge something should be hidden from readers and editors as opposed to just reverting?
A: Most of the time, obvious vandalism need only be reverted and reported, but every so often the edit should be hidden from public records, usually because it violates our
WP:BLP policy, as the edit contains offensive material or other kinds of inappropriate content (in less common occasions, RD#2 is also required outside of the mainspace to remove "grossly insulting" content, as it happened in this very RfA). I take the BLP policy very seriously, and I've requested deletion under criteria #2 a number of times at the IRC channel whenever I felt it was needed, usually when it involves libelous, unsourced/poorly sourced statements or extremely offensive and disparaging language. Sometimes I'll also request RD under criteria #1, for obvious copyright violation. There are also cases where information needs to be hidden due to
WP:OUTING reasons, in which case a full revert is not often needed, but the relevant information needs to be removed and the original revision hidden before being
WP:OS'ed (though I don't believe I've ever needed to request this).
11. One of your noms mentioned that you switched from mainly editing the Portuguese Wikipedia to mainly editing the English Wikipedia. Out of curiosity, what factors played a role in your decision to switch your main wiki?
A: Thanks for the question, and I will try to be short as there isn't much benefit in dwelling in the past. While I was very content in simply creating new articles or translating the ones from the English Wikipedia, I became more involved in the internal parts of the project, but was eventually alienated by the community due to negative experiences with some editors, both off-Wikipedia, in their official Telegram group, and on-Wikipedia. As I interacted with the more respected and older users of the community, the more I became disillusioned, and, during the discussion that led to IP banning, I was disparaged, so I took that as my cue to leave.
12. Can a user remove a CSD tag from a page he has created?
A: Yes and no. The
WP:CSD policy is quite clear that, for most cases, the page's creator can't remove the tag, and should instead use the talk page to explain why they disagree with it. It also explains that, for some specific criterias, the creator may remove them, either because they were the ones who requested the deletion, or because they deal with more advanced areas (ie. dabs, categories), where the creator is oftentimes an experienced and trusted user.
13: Suppose X is a new user in enwiki and started contributing here. But unfortunately they made pupetry in a CFD discussion as they don't know about law. What will you do then?
14.Extended-Confirmed Protection is a relatively new feature. It is now commonly used on articles that are Contentious Topics. My question has to do with Extended-Confirmed create protection. When, in your opinion, should titles that have been repeatedly recreated, or redirects from titles that have been repeatedly recreated, be subject to Extended-Confirmed protection, as opposed to semi-protection or full protection?
A: Similarly to edits to existing articles, it would depend on the kind of disruption around those articles/redirects, and sometimes other factors (eg.: when
WP:BLP is involved). ECP can either be used when autoconfirmed was not sufficient, or as a first measure when the page was repeatedly created by editors with the EC rights.
15. What experience have you had in resolving or trying to resolve disputes between editors, either article content disputes or conduct disputes?
A: While not a common occurrence, due to the nature of the areas I edit in, I've attempted to resolve disputes whenever I thought I'd be able to course-correct a user who as bit too gung-ho, or who might not fully understand our policies on how to deal with other editors during an argument. At
Talk:Bored Ape, for example, I explained the editor one should attempt to
assume good faith, and exchanged some ideas on how to improve the article. At
Kiwi Farms I've directed users how to best behave in sensitive areas of the Wikipedia, to varying degrees of success. While some do listen to the advices I give and things de-escalate, others aren't as receptive.
16. Hello, last year you commented in an
ANI case against Darknipples. At that time, you called the block good. How would you try to resolve the dispute now?
17. Aside from vandalism, under which conditions would you be willing to block someone indefinitely without a warning?
A: Well, I guess there are times where a bright-line rule is breached and a block is warranted with no need for a warning, such as grossly offensive messages at highly visible pages or sockpuppets that are
WP:!HERE. Oftentimes, accounts that are created just for spamming and with a name that clearly connects it to what they are spamming.
18. What is your take on
the Here essay? Should people be blocked just because their contributions are not building the encyclopedia despite not being harmful?
A:WP:!HERE is marked as an explanatory essay, meaning it falls somewhere between full essays and P&G. It is meant to supplement
WP:NOT, and it does so by giving a list of behaviors that are usually seen by the community as signs that someone is a net negative to the project, and they should either course-correct themselves after proper warnings and discussions, or be shown the door. So, to answer your question, it depends on the kind of behavior, but even if they are being directly harmful, they are sometimes wasting editors' time that could be better used elsewhere.
19. Would you like to comment on your willingness to do admin work in contentious areas?
A: As mentioned by Barkeep below, I have no issues editing in contentious areas, (ir)regardless of the subject. While I focus my content creation time on areas that are of my interest, such as children's and queer literature, I'm no stranger to editing articles under
DS, especially gender and sexuality and modern American politics. While I don't do much content creation in that area, I do try to resolve content disputes, whether by commenting in or by closing discussions. As some examples, see
Warsaw concentration camp RfC,
Alchemy RfC,
List of most expensive artworks by living artists RfC,
Aghdam RfC and so on and so forth. I'd like to believe this shows my ability to remain neutral in these areas, as well as my willingness to give assistance whenever needed, administrative or otherwise.
I do not see any issues, have seen the user around.--
Ymblanter (
talk) 21:12, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Competent, solid experience, could be useful with the tools, were on my radar as a possible candidate. Vanamonde (
Talk) 21:27, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I almost never vote this early in an RfA but this one was easy. One of the most clueful and accurate recent changes patrollers about at the moment.
HJ Mitchell |
Penny for your thoughts? 21:31, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
As with HJ Mitchell, this support vote is easy for me.
LilianaUwU(
talk /
contribs) 21:32, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Has experience and clue, honestly thought they had the bit already.
Madeline (
part of me) 21:34, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
One of the most thoughtful, clueful editors I have had the pleasure of interacting with. Even when we've disagreed, I have found them to approach things from a position of caring deeply about the encyclopedia and the community that creates it, and to express their disagreement civilly and courteously. I wish we could have another 100 admins like Isabelle; one is a good start. --
Tamzincetacean needed (she|they|xe) 21:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – Tamzin said it best. I believe Isabelle's calm and collected demeanor will be an asset to the admin corps. –
FlyingAce✈hello 21:55, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I've had encounters with Isabelle before and like Maddy above, I thought they were already an admin. But clearly no. I haven't had any too recent interactions with them however from past experience I'd say they are deserving of the tools. ―
Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:56, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - no previous dealings with this editor, but they certainly seem an ideal candidate from what I can see. Best of luck!
Patient Zerotalk 22:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Could use the tools and I trust them to do so properly.
DatGuyTalkContribs 22:21, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support With two nominators I respect and no negative interactions with Isabelle, I support this nomination. We need more admins, especially those who are calm under pressure. LizRead!Talk! 00:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I have seen them around, and I like their content creation. They will be an excellent administrator.
Scorpions13256 (
talk) 00:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Always nice to see an editor with a wide range of good contributions step up. Thanks for volunteering.
Indignant Flamingo (
talk) 01:08, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support The nominators impart immediate trust on my part. --
Dolotta (
talk) 01:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Only comparatively recently have I seen Isabelle around, more specifically as a non-admin closer of several lengthy and somewhat controversial RfCs. In both cases their interpretation was sound, and their reasoning clear and detailed. A trio of traits that is nicely re-usable in any number of fields.
Nosebagbear (
talk) 02:01, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Pleasant and helpful, logical and reasonable, and knows how to produce good content.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 05:34, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Fair, reasonable, helpful. I'm not worried about the recall answer they gave as we have processes in place that have been shown to work that can address bad admin behavior. On a lighter note, how could I not support an editor who worked so hard on
Scary Stories for Young Foxes! Dr vulpes(
💬 •
📝) 07:24, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, no problems here. A familiar and welcome name on my watchlist. Graham87 07:25, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Thoroughly competent, no issues.
Maproom (
talk) 07:35, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Tempted to oppose on the basis of Q3's answer ~ an editor, a prospective admin no less, who apologises?? What next, the sky falling? ~ but most definitely support, regardless of the answer to my question. Happy days ~ LindsayHello 09:10, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Has created 2 GA articles, has decent AfD/CSD logs, and experience with closures is excellent, I saw one of the closures by Isabelle in an RSN RfC and it was detailed and nuanced. VickKiang(talk) 10:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support My only concern has been dealt with an in a positive way that is an excellent indication of how they will be a great admin.
Gusfriend (
talk) 10:02, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, look like Isabelle will make a good admin. --
Salix alba (
talk): 10:45, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – unreservedly. Thanks for volunteering.
Loopy30 (
talk) 11:21, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Helpful in RC patrol, trusted to block and revdel. ~~
lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 11:25, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, everytime I've seen them I've had a good impression. The signature issue didn't bother me, but their handling of it was great.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 11:52, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support The handling of their signature alone tells me they have the temperament to had issues as an admin. Add that to the work they have done, and for me it's a no-brainer.
RickinBaltimore (
talk) 12:34, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Fully qualified candidate with lots of content creation and anti-vandalism experience. The signature issue alone wasn't enough to sway me away from Support column, but its handling was also very impressive. —CX Zoom[he/him](
let's talk • {
C•
X}) 13:32, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Trusted and competent user.
Thingofme (
talk) 13:48, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Everything I can see about this editor makes me think they will be a good administrator. I'm particularly impressed by their answer to question #7; making reasonable accommodations for others even though per the rules you don't have to is a good attitude for an administrator. -
Aoidh (
talk) 13:52, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The most emphatic support possible. Will make a superb admin. ser!(
chat to me -
see my edits) 14:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Been around, has a clue.
Nardog (
talk) 14:39, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I felt compelled to !vote after seeing the neutral !vote below (even though it was since struck). I am awestruck, frankly, that this is the sort of ticky-tack stuff we are scrutinizing admin candidates over when they are otherwise competent and
clueful individuals, such as this one. And I also dearly hope that the candidate's stance on recall does not similarly provoke protest !votes. --🌈WaltCip-(
talk) 14:45, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Often see this user on recent changes. Experienced.
Sarrail (
talk) 16:22, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Edit summary usage is not 100% but appears to be trying to do that. Pro tip: go to preferences, editing, and tick the "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary)" box. CatfishJim and the soapdish 17:17, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Unfortunately, this fails to flag when an edit summary with a comment is automatically included. A software update would be appreciated.
Hawkeye7(discuss) 19:02, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Seen them around quite a bit at RCP. Isabelle is an absolute pleasure to patrol with. All of their reverts and most of their CSD taggings (I like to see a CSD log) were accurate, indicating an understanding of policy. A wonderful candidate that I’m more than happy to !support. My only regret is that I just missed out on being their 69th !support vote ;) ◇HelenDegenerate◆ 19:07, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support The signature discussion shows exactly why they will be a great admin. Someone raised an issue, and instead of doubling down, they took the constructive "criticism" on board. They fixed it. ACERFC2022 closures are icing on the cake. Kind, competent. Yes, please!
HouseBlastertalk 19:14, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Can't remember seeing them around but the contributions look good and I trust the noms. Regards
SoWhy 19:19, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I have seen Isabelle's work and believe they would be a good admin.
Funcrunch (
talk) 19:55, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Great contributor. Calm demeanor. Solid judgment. Multilingual. Woman. Welcome to adminship!
Cbl62 (
talk) 20:54, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I have ran into Isabelle through anti-vandalism patrol and found them to be knowledgeable of policies and guidelines and pleasant to edit with. In addition, I hold both nominators in extremely high regard. -- LuK3(Talk) 20:58, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Looks good. Best of luck. --
Vacant0 (
talk) 21:40, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I've been waiting for this. I've seen them around and I think their use of the admin tools will be beneficial.
NytharT.C 00:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Very well established user. ClydeState your case (please use {{
reply to|ClydeFranklin}} on reply) 00:49, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – Seems pleasant, competent and trusted. Good candidate.
DB1729talk 00:57, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I too was surprised to learn that they weren't already an admin, given how much I see them around. Competent, cool-headed, and overall a great candidate.
WindTempos(
talk •
contribs) 02:18, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Definitely!!! Will make a great admin
Vermont (
🐿️—
🏳️🌈) 02:19, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Why not? -
FASTILY 02:27, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Within the past week, and not for the first time, I considered urging them to run. I've encountered their work in both content and more adminny areas, and I'm impressed with both quantity and quality of their contributions to the project. In particular, I look forward to having another admin as experienced in closing discussions as Isabelle is.
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 02:57, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support it is my honor to support this candidate. Administrators are given resources because they are trusted members of the community, but this candidate's history and demeanor give me the feeling that they will among the best-of-the-best. Answer to my question was thoughtful and thorough, as have been their other answers to the questions. Knows content and policies. Plenty of experience. Nominated and supported by the best-of-the-best.
78.26(
spin me /
revolutions) 03:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support This candidate has strong qualifications, a friendly, helpful persona, and no negatives that I have been able to discern.
Cullen328 (
talk) 04:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Utterly competent and would be a net positive to the admin corps. — Red-tailed hawk(nest) 04:42, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Competent, well qualified, knowledgeable! –
Kavyansh.Singh (
talk) 11:42, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - quality content creation, discussion closes, and answers to questions here demonstrate thoughtful consideration of policies, guidelines, and the community.
Beccaynr (
talk) 15:38, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support User will be a great admin closer of contentious discussions.
GeoffreyT2000 (
talk) 15:46, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - A trustworthy, qualified candidate with the right temperment.
Netherzone (
talk) 15:56, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - no concerns.
GiantSnowman 16:03, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - not an editor I recall having encountered before, but reading the nominations and answer above, seems like a promising candidate.
Cordless Larry (
talk) 16:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: expertise across many areas of the site, including with content work, anti-vandalism, closing discussions and pt.wiki editing. Isabelle Belato is a
mentor and spotchecks show an excellent all-round temperament, including in contentious topics. No issues that I can see. —
Bilorv (talk) 16:52, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Looks competent; good answers to the questions. –
Ammarpad (
talk) 17:58, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Strong support - I see Isabelle all the time on Recent Changes kicking some serious vandal butt. Honest, no issues, and an all around great editor. I have no doubt that she will make a great admin.
— That Coptic Guy (
talk) 18:13, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I do not believe I have interacted with Isabelle, but from the nominations and answers to questions I support the adminship.
SWinxy (
talk) 19:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Great efforts in countering vandalism and I was impressed with their close of the most recent RfC on
Azov Regiment, easy support. --
TylerBurden (
talk) 20:24, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – I've seen them around and while I don't believe we've personally interacted, their actions have left a positive impression on me.
Clovermoss(talk) 20:52, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support clearly here to help the project & knows how to do it, not only not a jerk, but seems genuinely nice. --
Find bruce (
talk) 21:00, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Great content creation and has handled tricky RfC closures well. Cheers,
Chocmilk03 (
talk) 21:37, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I see no reason why not.
MaxnaCarta (
talk) 02:05, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support and best wishes! Chlod (
say hi!) 03:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Once again, seems to have earned support from trustworthy users.
Daniel Case (
talk) 04:45, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I haven't seen any issues with them, and I've seen at least a couple of their closes of rfcs, which seemed to be quite competently done --
Tristario (
talk) 05:36, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I have no concerns with this candidate. Best of luck with the mop!
Rollidan (
talk) 07:50, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Seen them around plenty; trusted candidate, trusted noms. Thanks for putting yourself forward.
GirthSummit (blether) 08:21, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Seems candidate has a purpose and is suited for the role. Good luck! —
Ixtal(
T /
C ) ⁂
Non nobis solum. 10:11, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Ticks many of my boxes and convinces with a set of trusted nominators.
Modussiccandi (
talk) 10:14, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I find their answer satisfactory. I wish them good luck.--
Ideophagous (
talk) 10:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I am sad to hear their frustrations with ptWP and thankful for their contributions here on enWP and for running. Trusted noms and detailed support from others here. ~ 🦝
Shushugah (he/him •
talk) 12:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Solid editor with a good track record. No red or yellow flags. The sole oppose is unpersuasive. Good luck. -
Ad Orientem (
talk) 15:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support:
I was concerned about their
namespace totals and
edit summary usage, but namespace is reasonable given they do a lot of counter-vandalism work, and it looks like their edit summary use has improved dramatically, which I hope continues. Article creation is A+ as well. ~~~~— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
ThadeusOfNazereth (
talk •
contribs) 15:27, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Although I haven't interacted with them before, a quick look through their contribs shows that they have a need for the admin bit.
dudhhrtalkcontribs (he/they) 15:35, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Strong support -- An excellent vandal fighter that I have often encountered when they hit the push back button just a little before me. My vote you have :-),
Drummingman (
talk) 16:03, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I've seen the candidate around, and their activity and demeanor seem to make them a great fit for the mop. –
Epicgenius (
talk) 16:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Obvious choice and good thing for us. Good noms, solid answers, already respected. Not even close. Think she might have a chance, folks...
BusterD (
talk) 16:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per review and trusted noms and support !voters above, including HJM, Barkeep, NYB, and Rick. I particularly appreciated the handling of Q7, which indicates a temperament that can a great admin make.
Eddie891TalkWork 21:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Experienced and capable closer of discussions. I'm sure they will make a fine admin.
Pawnkingthree (
talk) 22:58, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I'm pleased with their closes of discussions and their responses at this RFA. I trust them to use the bit wisely; not using it when they don't know what they're doing. :)
Sennecaster (
Chat) 03:45, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I have seen a lot of thoughtful, detailed work by this user.
JehochmanTalk 05:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: exemplary dispute response and resolution skills. That’s huge. Julietdeltalima(talk) 05:11, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - experienced editor.
Tolly4bolly 05:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose because the candidate spells their name with two "L's" instead of one. I have seen other people with two "L's" in their name, and they abuse the tools. (JK... this is satire in reference to some of the more questionable reasons to oppose or neutral in this RfA and others). Support. Obviously.
It's me... Sallicio! 12:52, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Trusted, competent and experienced editor, I see no red flags here. I'm also thoroughly impressed with their answers, Easy support. –
Davey2010Talk 13:09, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Competent, has a clue, why not?
Hey man im josh (
talk) 13:16, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - trustworthy editor.
PhilKnight (
talk) 13:18, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I've seen
Isabelle Belato recently while doing vandalism cleanup and blocking/protection of articles and was impressed by their work. I haven't chimed in on an RfA for a while, but I was pleasantly surprised to see this nomination as we don't have a huge stream of new admins. -
Fuzheado |
Talk 14:24, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I have seen Isabelle around a fair bit, helping in various areas of the project. This editor is competent, experienced, and not a jerk. Happy to support.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 15:25, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - They've beat me to reverting vandalism a lot of times, I hope they'll maintain such speed after getting an admin bit.
a!rado (
C✙
T) 15:27, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Has clue, competent, no issues. Katietalk 16:14, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Clued in, competent, very much
here. I think Isabelle will be a boon to the admin corps!
Sideswipe9th (
talk) 16:18, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per Sideswipe9th.
John (
talk) 16:56, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I have not had any interactions with this candidate, but everything looks good to me. I trust the noms, I see widespread support from many editors/admins I trust, and it certainly appears that the candidate has a clue. We need the help, so I'm on board.
Atsme💬📧 17:36, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Have seen the name around, only positive associations so far. So support per noms and that.
Skynxnex (
talk) 17:46, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Very nice to see a familiar name get what they deserve! Undoubtedly worthy of adminship. I even remember the time I fought vandalism on their talk page... good times.
-GoatLordServant ☂ (
Talk -
Contribs) 18:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Experienced, dedicated and clueful. And has the right temperment, as displayed even duing this RFA.
Abecedare (
talk) 18:56, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Already an asset to the project and the mop and bucket will only increase that fact.
MarnetteD|
Talk 20:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: a first look at their contributions shows that they have been very active with anti-vandalism work. Giving a few additional buttons will help them even more with this task.
Aasim -
Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 21:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. No hesitation on my part. --Kinut/c 21:26, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Respected editor, have seen them around making great contributions. Obvious support.
echidnaLives (
talk) 21:59, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support — I think Isabelle would make a fine admin. —VersaceSpace🌃 02:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. An excellent editor, and soon an excellent admin.
GreenComputer (
talk) 03:39, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. No reason not to. /
Julle (
talk) 04:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Experienced candidate, will benefit the project with the tools. SpencerT•C 04:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I asked her about her involvement in conflict resolution, and I also note that she helped me with conflict resolution with an interminable case by closing a difficult RFC; and I don't see any reason not to authorize the tools.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 05:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Supportgood answers, to Q7 is a good example. And keeping a cool on-wiki-temper despite the events evolving...I guess Wikipedia gets a fine admin.
Paradise Chronicle (
talk) 06:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Super candidate - good luck!:)
— sparklism hey! 08:51, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support experienced (previous activity on other wiki), civil and could use the tools. That they forgot their old account is a human mistake, and, if maybe worth a gentle
trouting, not a reason to oppose. –
LordPeterII (
talk) 09:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support fully qualified and evidently capable candidate.
Wham2001 (
talk) 10:40, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Reasonably decent candidate who will grow into the role and make a fine administrator. scope_creepTalk 11:22, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: First time I've voted in a RfA in a long, long time.
Ravenswing 12:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Isabelle is a particularly helpful editor who has done a great job combatting vandalism over the past bit of time.
TartarTorte 13:38, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Good AFD stats.
FOARP (
talk) 13:45, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I do not often participate in RFAs but I want to register my support for Isabelle. They will quite clearly make an excellent admin.
WJ94 (
talk) 14:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - based upon review.
Kierzek (
talk) 16:25, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - nothing I can see to suggest there are skeletons in the cupboard, and the candidate has an excellent track record. Welcome to the corps. —
Amakuru (
talk) 20:04, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Seeing support from editors I'm both wary of and editors/admins I deeply trust. A candidate capable of drawing well-reasoned praise from editors of all stripes has my confidence; I'm hopeful for great things from them (no pressure!). ~
Pbritti (
talk) 02:29, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
200. Consistent RC patroller, content editor, and discussion closer. Good demeanor, no concerns.
Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 02:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support — Not much to add here that hasn't been said by others. Isabelle has a clear history of both improving articles and participating in wiki-chores like recent changes and AfD. They have a clear grasp of wiki policies and have show extraordinary civility in contentious discussions. I have no doubt they'll be an excellent admin.
Dylnuge(
Talk •
Edits) 04:34, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I like the civility and commitment to making Wikipedia a better place.
🌊PacificDepthstalk|
contrib 06:02, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Isabelle seems thoughtful, responsible, and would clearly make a great contribution to Wikipedia by being an admin.
Llightex (
talk) 12:53, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I have checked a random sample of this user's contributions and I found nothing of concern.—
S MarshallT/
C 13:23, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I like the calm demeanor of the candidate, and in particular the stated inclination to start slowly. Unlikely to break anything, and likely to be a great help. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 14:37, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Per nom and co-noms.
Sario528 (
talk) 14:39, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Great to have another long-time cross-wiki contributor running the gauntlet. Welcome to the company of admins.
Deryck C. 21:05, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
A few weeks ago, I mentally compiled a list of editors that could get adminship "at will", without need for nominators and with little opposition due to their competence and reputation. I am unsurprised to see half of that list here at RfA. While unthrilled by the lack of answers to Q13 and Q16 at the moment, I believe that the
answer to Q7 shows an
appropriate amount of consideration for others. One hopes that Isabelle will continue this approach in their adminship.
Sdrqaz (
talk) 01:32, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Competent and wise, great add. to the board.
DarwinAhoy! 01:53, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Whole-hearted support. I have see seen
Isabelle around quite a lot, and I have the highest regard for her contributions. I am delighted to see that Isabelle is now a candidate to become an administrator.
JBW (
talk) 09:01, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – a well-qualified candidate who will be an asset to the project.
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 10:34, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: I’ve seen them recently fight vandalism, and they seem fit for the role!
HarobouriT •
C (he/him)
Support: as per nom.--
Sabri76'talk 13:12, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: I've encountered Isabelle a few times on the ol' recent changes patrol and I'm always happy to endorse editors who take on that task. What really persuades me, however, is the linked complex ACE closing, which is impressively succinct and clear. I'd love to see them continue their work as an admin.
Blue Edits (
talk) 17:02, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I have confidence this candidate will be a good admin.
Egsan Bacon (
talk) 21:02, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support competent editor and I have confidence that they will make a good admin. I find those in opposition unconvincing -- I, for instance, forgot about Sandspert when I registered this account and started editing. Like Blaze Wolf, it was only after I was here for a bit and stumbled upon it in
Special:CentralAuth as a search suggestion did I recall it. --
TheSandDoctorTalk 21:05, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Well-qualified and deserving of the bit.
Tamwin (
talk) 21:11, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Just in time...? Basically I agree with the nominators, and additionally I have been consistently been impressed with their anti-vandalism work while patrolling Huggle. --
Dylan620 (he/him ·
talk ·
edits) 21:18, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
It's never too late until a 'crat comes along to close it!
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 21:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Or that RfC passes. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 21:29, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, net positive, clearly a productive and sensible editor. Aza24 (talk) 21:32, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose
Oppose, per the "forgetting" of their account on Portuguese wiki. Doesn't pass the smell test.
Unbroken Chain (
talk) 13:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
What are you implying? 🌈WaltCip-(
talk) 14:44, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
People can forget their old accounts existed if they haven't used them for a long time.--
Ideophagous (
talk) 15:47, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Agreed. Heck, my alt (
User:Blaze Fire Wolf) is only older than this account because I Created it at one point to edit, and then forgot about it and never made an edit. I only discovered it again after I had been editing on this one for a bit. ―
Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:24, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I do want to remind everyone that humans make mistakes, all of them.
PerryPerryDTalk To Me 19:38, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
User:PerryPerryD, I agree and I'm not saying anything about this person or their character other then that I would not support as admin for that issue. By the look of the number of opposes (1)it a very isolated position so I'm sure they will do just fine regardless of this oppose and I wish them well and success either way.
Unbroken Chain (
talk) 22:06, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Unbroken Chain:, would you consider moving to "neutral" because the objection is not very strong and it would be nice to have a unanimous result. Thank you for considering it,
JehochmanTalk 03:00, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Jehochman:Sounds like they had a hell of a day and some goodwill might help, even if it is a gesture. It really was my only concern because the process of creating an account and email etc to me would be a memorable event, you get different emails and such that remind you of various things. On a secondary note I see you are working on a PhD, best wishes on that, I'd like to earn one of those myself but paying for it an altogether different matter. I hope you stay well and glad to see you stuck around after experiencing a rough go of things yourself.
Unbroken Chain (
talk) 03:21, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you, kind person. That's a very nice gesture.
JehochmanTalk 03:25, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose Based on the candidate's afd participation. In addition, based on discussion above I do not see any clear need for tools. TheresNoTime states that "Isabelle has kept away from editing content in the more contentious areas of Wikipedia". I am afraid that is not a quality that is needed in an administrator. FYI: it seems rather un-Democratic that an oppose ivote was completely wiped off the board. An admin could leave the ivote and strike the rationale. A
WP:PA or offensive material can be revdelled without a complete strike of an ivote.
Lightburst (
talk) 23:16, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
This is not an attempt to get you to change your vote because there is more to it than this. But Isabelle does a fair amount of recent change patrolling, which has been noted by several supports, where tools can be helpful for revdel, protection, and blocks. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 23:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks Barkeep49. I just do not think we need more admins who avoid contentious areas. I appreciate you messaging me about it. I may reread the board.
Lightburst (
talk) 23:29, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
That's also fair. I hope you'll indulge me then, in noting that I think TNT's comment was about where Isabelle edits. I think Isabelle has more of a willingness to get into contentious areas when they are UNINVOLVED. In question three Isabelle notes that they would have liked, for instance, to help close the Fox News RfC but felt that they couldn't because editors indicated (fairly I think) that it needed admin closer(s). In terms of a close they did perform, I think closing BLOCKEVIDENCE shows they're willing to get involved in high stakes issues that people feel strongly about. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 00:49, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Per the second part of your comment,
Wikipedia is not a democracy, and RfA is a consensus process like any other (hence why it's a
"!vote" instead of a vote). Striking an oppose that was purely a personal attack with no substance seems uncontroversial.
Dylnuge(
Talk •
Edits) 04:46, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I first met Isabelle when they were clearing a backlog of unclosed discussions. From what I saw they are perfectly willing to get into highly contentious areas, and they do a good job being neutral, objective, and fair. Maybe you could ask them a question about this and see what they say.
JehochmanTalk 12:25, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Neutral
Neutral I think that their contributions are good and they have been nominated by users who's judgement I trust. Unfortuately I cannot support anyone for Admin whilst their signature does not contain their full username. Having the displayed signature being different to the user name makes things just that little bit harder for newcomers (and even more experienced users sometimes). It means that when editors look at a talk page conversation there is a disconnect between how the user may be referred to and how their signature is presented. This can become more acute as admins are often dealing with situations where editors will already be stressed or frustrated. I realise that this may seem somewhat arbitrary and having signatures like this is supported by consensus but that is how I feel.
Gusfriend (
talk) 22:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC) 10:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
This is a good point. Although I may find myself in the Support column soon, I hope Isabelle takes note of the issue you raise here. —CX Zoom[he/him](
let's talk • {
C•
X}) 22:18, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Just to be clear, you're objecting to them signing with Isabelle instead of Isabelle Belato?
Valereee (
talk) 22:48, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I can see where this comes from, but I don't think this would be a reason for me to be neutral or oppose especially as this shortening is just removing what seems to be to be a last name.
Dreamy Jazztalk to me | my contributions 23:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I am not objecting to them signing with Isabelle rather than Isabelle Belato, that is acting within consensus and a perfectly reasonable thing to do. I am however choosing to be Neutral rather than Support for their application for administratorship based on it. In the last month I have seen the wrong people pinged due to this and it has caught me out several times where I have followed a link to a user talk page and then had to go back to confirm that I am in the right place. I have no trouble with use of colours, etc. or clever talk page link text but this is where I have the concern. I realise that my reasoning may put me in a minority of one and it is a quixotic approach and otherwise they look like an excellent choice but that is where I am coming from.
Gusfriend (
talk) 00:01, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Would a simple correction to a signature change your stance on this candidate, Gusfriend? I agree that some signatures I've seen are indecipherable but I usually leave a comment about this on the editor's talk page and they make a change. LizRead!Talk! 00:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't think it's fair to call Isabelle's signature indecipherable. Obviously they're going to see this discussion and can, as CX Zoom suggests, decide if they wish to tweak their signature. I do appreciate Gusfriend noting that what Isabelle has done is well with-in current community consensus for signatures. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 00:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Certainly Liz and if I hadn't been giving it some thought over the last few weeks I would have been really happy to support such a strong candidate. Overall they appear to be an excellent candidate and are receiving broad support from a large number of trusted editors.
Gusfriend (
talk) 00:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I must say I struggle to understand why this would warrant an oppose !vote. Many administrators and experienced users shorten their signatures, or put their real names in instead, because they are able to be personalised and as such people will have their own unique ways of doing this. Plus, they have only removed their surname, and one can simply hover over the username/look in the signature in the source code to see the full username. If the signature had clashing colours that were difficult to read, I would understand, but this is not the case.
Patient Zerotalk 02:12, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't think the signature is a problem, but I do a lot of editing using the desktop site on my phone, and the hover-to-see-full-username thing doesn't work when using a phone (or a tablet I assume). There's a growing share of editors that edit from mobile, so hovering shouldn't be seen as a workaround.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 02:18, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Then you could always look in the signature code instead - for example, say I decided to go by "PZ" in my signature, when editing a Wikipedia page you can see the user's full username in the signature code, so you would be able to see my username is in fact Patient Zero. I understand it may take a while to get used to for newer editors, granted.
Patient Zerotalk 02:24, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
@
ScottishFinnishRadish: when using desktop view on the phone, leaving a link pressed for a few seconds makes the navigation popup pop up (heehee
). –
FlyingAce✈hello 03:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC) reply
Neither of these is good, as one requires opening a different page and looking for the signature to see the username, and the navigation popup seldom displays the full length of the url, and you can't copy the username to ping.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 11:50, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
What is needed here is neither a neutral !vote nor a pile-on condemnation, but a question to the user, which I have now asked (#7). —
Bilorv (talk) 07:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
There are around a dozen user names that begin with 'Isabelle', if not more. What is needed is a good faith minor tweak to the signature. In any case, as far as this RfA is concerned, it's not a dealbreaker.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
talk) 08:38, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Absolutely. Did you mean RfA,
Kudpung? Happy days ~ LindsayHello 09:14, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The above adminship discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of either
this nomination or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.
Final (236/1/0); Closed as successful by Maxim(talk) at 22:45, 14 October 2022 (UTC) reply
Nomination
Isabelle Belato (
talk·contribs) – It's my absolute pleasure to present to you Isabelle Belato for consideration for adminship. In 2020 all of a sudden their name started appearing all over my watchlist given our mutual interest in children's literature. I quickly learned that they were a highly capable editor, no doubt due to their work on Portuguese Wikipedia where they'd edited for a number of years before switching focus to English. Part of what made them so good, so fast, was not just their previous wiki experience, but their being unafraid to ask good questions to learn and grow combined with a warm and collaborative disposition. They have used their skill to improve numerous articles, including bringing four up to Good Article.
Over the past year I have seen them grow into an incredibly respected closer of discussions doing an excellent job of closing high profile and difficult discussions, including most recently the 2022
ACE RfC. I have had my eye on Isabelle as a future admin for quite some time and I am thrilled to be here today asking you to join me today in supporting them.
Barkeep49 (
talk) 01:52, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Co-nomination
I'm thrilled to be co-nominating an editor who exemplifies what
being here is all about — Isabelle has proven their competence both in policy (as Barkeep49 alludes to above) and in the curation of content (to which their GA
Julián Is a Mermaid speaks clearly).
Isabelle has kept away from editing content in the more contentious areas of Wikipedia (and this is no bad thing!), yet has shown an ability to keep cool and answer queries civilly in the rare cases where discussions had got heated.
These qualities, along with their need for the tools to more effectively maintain our content, bring me to ask just one final question — will you join us in supporting this wholly qualified candidate for adminship? —
TheresNoTime (
talk • they/them) 09:26, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I'm happy to accept Barkeep's and TNT's nomination, and thank both of them for their kind words. I have never edited for pay. I never edited Wikipedia before creating this account, Before creating this account, I edited with a
different one (see answer to question 5 below). but I have a disclosed alternate account which I use to edit while on public networks.
Isabelle🏳🌈 21:03, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:
1. Why are you interested in becoming an administrator?
A: As someone who spends a lot of time patrolling recent changes, the tools would be helpful in preventing vandalism, as well as working on revdel'ing edit revisions and summaries when necessary. Most importantly, I spend a lot of time closing discussions, including more complex and contentious ones, and while
non-admin closing is a thing, some can only be closed by vetted members of the community, either due to technical reasons (bans/blocks), or due to perception (eg.: the recent Fox News RfC). As an administrator, it would show the community trusts my ability in assessing and closing these discussions. I'd also help in other areas where administrators might be needed, and offer assistance when I could be helpful.
2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
A: When it comes to content editions, I'm very proud of all the articles I've created, especially those about queer people and their works, as writing these articles is a way to learn about them. A specific article would be The Lodger, which I stumbled upon one day and decided to improve when I learned it was one of the foundational works on the myth of Jack the Ripper. I also loved writing about Scary Stories for Young Foxes, which I ended up reading during my research and managed to improve it to GA status. Outside of mainspace, I've recently closed the "
Updating BLOCKEVIDENCE" RfC. A somewhat long discussion that shows consensus is not only about whether editors agree or disagree with the options offered in the opening statement, but also what is being discussed by participants.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: The content areas I edit are usually very calm, but I've participated in some stressful discussions here and there. While I always try my best to keep my calm and oftentimes will avoid replying when I know it won't help advance the discussion, I remember being unnecessarily rude to a user in a discussion over
userboxes.
I apologized to them after the fact and haven't had any altercations like that with any other users, to the best of my knowledge.
You may ask optional questions below. There is a
limit of two questions per editor. Multi-part questions disguised as one question, with the intention of evading the limit, are disallowed. Follow-up questions relevant to questions you have already asked are allowed.
4. Would you agree to participate in some form of recall process if the community felt it necessary to pursue it?
A: I'm not sure if this will answer your question satisfactorily, but I'd be "willing to stand for 're-confirmation' of adminship" if any number of editors I look up to and respect asked for such in my talk page.
5. Did you use another account to edit the Portuguese Wikipedia between 2007 and 2009?
A:As far as I remember, I've only ever edited with this account, though I did edit under a different username for a lot of my tenure in the Portuguese Wikipedia until I asked for the account to be renamed in 2020.
I'm striking my original answer to this question since I was made aware that I, indeed, edited the Portuguese Wikipedia under
a different account at that time period. While I didn't remember its existence, I can confirm it was mine. At some point in early 2009 I decided to abandon it and utilize a different account, which is the one I have now (though it went through a rename request in 2020). I apologize for this lapse of memory.
6. What do you consider the most important of our priciples ~
pillars &
PAGs?
A: To me the most important concept has always been neutrality. While I do have strong opinions and views on a variety of topics, as all people do, I've always done my best to not let that influence my editing of Wikipedia, especially in content space, and obviously when closing discussions. While I don't think some people understand what NPOV means in Wikipedia terms, this is what has allowed us, as a community, to cover a huge range of subjects, contentious or not, while also respecting reliability and our policy on BLP.
7. Your signature reads "Isabelle", but doesn't make clear your full username, which can confuse newcomers. Would you consider changing it?
A: Thanks for the question,
Bilorv. I've been reading the discussion below and I can see how not having one's full username in their signature could become an issue at times. I appreciate all those who participated in it, but I think
Gusfriend makes a good point about newcomers possibly having issues with this (or even mobile users, as some mentioned), even if it's a small one. Since there is absolutely no cost to me in changing my signature to ensure these kinds of issues don't happen, I went ahead and changed it.
8. As an admin, it's often expected or requested to help other editors especially new users, by dealing with disputes, either resolving them or pointing the participants to proper venues for resolution and also editors who requests some permissions outside RFP(Rollback,IPBE etc). How do you see yourself in these aspect of an Admin's role?
A: Even before moving to the English Wikipedia I used to mentor new users and help at the Portuguese Wikipedia's equivalent to the
Help Desk. Here, not only did I continue this work, I was also an early participant of the
mentorship system introduced by the
Growth Team. I've always tried my best to inform
greenhorns about how to edit, create articles, where to go to find more information on what they are seeking, or how to proceed during a dispute. I don't see that changing if I were to become an administrator. I hope that answers your question.
A: While I do intend on helping around with the various administrative tasks, I imagine not at first, no. Just as with any other activity I've done on Wikipedia, I will start by learning the tools and, as I grow more confident and used to them, will participate in these tasks to help keep the queues clear or as the need arises.
10. You state in Q1 that access to revdelete is one of the primary reasons for requesting the toolset. How or why would you judge something should be hidden from readers and editors as opposed to just reverting?
A: Most of the time, obvious vandalism need only be reverted and reported, but every so often the edit should be hidden from public records, usually because it violates our
WP:BLP policy, as the edit contains offensive material or other kinds of inappropriate content (in less common occasions, RD#2 is also required outside of the mainspace to remove "grossly insulting" content, as it happened in this very RfA). I take the BLP policy very seriously, and I've requested deletion under criteria #2 a number of times at the IRC channel whenever I felt it was needed, usually when it involves libelous, unsourced/poorly sourced statements or extremely offensive and disparaging language. Sometimes I'll also request RD under criteria #1, for obvious copyright violation. There are also cases where information needs to be hidden due to
WP:OUTING reasons, in which case a full revert is not often needed, but the relevant information needs to be removed and the original revision hidden before being
WP:OS'ed (though I don't believe I've ever needed to request this).
11. One of your noms mentioned that you switched from mainly editing the Portuguese Wikipedia to mainly editing the English Wikipedia. Out of curiosity, what factors played a role in your decision to switch your main wiki?
A: Thanks for the question, and I will try to be short as there isn't much benefit in dwelling in the past. While I was very content in simply creating new articles or translating the ones from the English Wikipedia, I became more involved in the internal parts of the project, but was eventually alienated by the community due to negative experiences with some editors, both off-Wikipedia, in their official Telegram group, and on-Wikipedia. As I interacted with the more respected and older users of the community, the more I became disillusioned, and, during the discussion that led to IP banning, I was disparaged, so I took that as my cue to leave.
12. Can a user remove a CSD tag from a page he has created?
A: Yes and no. The
WP:CSD policy is quite clear that, for most cases, the page's creator can't remove the tag, and should instead use the talk page to explain why they disagree with it. It also explains that, for some specific criterias, the creator may remove them, either because they were the ones who requested the deletion, or because they deal with more advanced areas (ie. dabs, categories), where the creator is oftentimes an experienced and trusted user.
13: Suppose X is a new user in enwiki and started contributing here. But unfortunately they made pupetry in a CFD discussion as they don't know about law. What will you do then?
14.Extended-Confirmed Protection is a relatively new feature. It is now commonly used on articles that are Contentious Topics. My question has to do with Extended-Confirmed create protection. When, in your opinion, should titles that have been repeatedly recreated, or redirects from titles that have been repeatedly recreated, be subject to Extended-Confirmed protection, as opposed to semi-protection or full protection?
A: Similarly to edits to existing articles, it would depend on the kind of disruption around those articles/redirects, and sometimes other factors (eg.: when
WP:BLP is involved). ECP can either be used when autoconfirmed was not sufficient, or as a first measure when the page was repeatedly created by editors with the EC rights.
15. What experience have you had in resolving or trying to resolve disputes between editors, either article content disputes or conduct disputes?
A: While not a common occurrence, due to the nature of the areas I edit in, I've attempted to resolve disputes whenever I thought I'd be able to course-correct a user who as bit too gung-ho, or who might not fully understand our policies on how to deal with other editors during an argument. At
Talk:Bored Ape, for example, I explained the editor one should attempt to
assume good faith, and exchanged some ideas on how to improve the article. At
Kiwi Farms I've directed users how to best behave in sensitive areas of the Wikipedia, to varying degrees of success. While some do listen to the advices I give and things de-escalate, others aren't as receptive.
16. Hello, last year you commented in an
ANI case against Darknipples. At that time, you called the block good. How would you try to resolve the dispute now?
17. Aside from vandalism, under which conditions would you be willing to block someone indefinitely without a warning?
A: Well, I guess there are times where a bright-line rule is breached and a block is warranted with no need for a warning, such as grossly offensive messages at highly visible pages or sockpuppets that are
WP:!HERE. Oftentimes, accounts that are created just for spamming and with a name that clearly connects it to what they are spamming.
18. What is your take on
the Here essay? Should people be blocked just because their contributions are not building the encyclopedia despite not being harmful?
A:WP:!HERE is marked as an explanatory essay, meaning it falls somewhere between full essays and P&G. It is meant to supplement
WP:NOT, and it does so by giving a list of behaviors that are usually seen by the community as signs that someone is a net negative to the project, and they should either course-correct themselves after proper warnings and discussions, or be shown the door. So, to answer your question, it depends on the kind of behavior, but even if they are being directly harmful, they are sometimes wasting editors' time that could be better used elsewhere.
19. Would you like to comment on your willingness to do admin work in contentious areas?
A: As mentioned by Barkeep below, I have no issues editing in contentious areas, (ir)regardless of the subject. While I focus my content creation time on areas that are of my interest, such as children's and queer literature, I'm no stranger to editing articles under
DS, especially gender and sexuality and modern American politics. While I don't do much content creation in that area, I do try to resolve content disputes, whether by commenting in or by closing discussions. As some examples, see
Warsaw concentration camp RfC,
Alchemy RfC,
List of most expensive artworks by living artists RfC,
Aghdam RfC and so on and so forth. I'd like to believe this shows my ability to remain neutral in these areas, as well as my willingness to give assistance whenever needed, administrative or otherwise.
I do not see any issues, have seen the user around.--
Ymblanter (
talk) 21:12, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Competent, solid experience, could be useful with the tools, were on my radar as a possible candidate. Vanamonde (
Talk) 21:27, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I almost never vote this early in an RfA but this one was easy. One of the most clueful and accurate recent changes patrollers about at the moment.
HJ Mitchell |
Penny for your thoughts? 21:31, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
As with HJ Mitchell, this support vote is easy for me.
LilianaUwU(
talk /
contribs) 21:32, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Has experience and clue, honestly thought they had the bit already.
Madeline (
part of me) 21:34, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
One of the most thoughtful, clueful editors I have had the pleasure of interacting with. Even when we've disagreed, I have found them to approach things from a position of caring deeply about the encyclopedia and the community that creates it, and to express their disagreement civilly and courteously. I wish we could have another 100 admins like Isabelle; one is a good start. --
Tamzincetacean needed (she|they|xe) 21:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – Tamzin said it best. I believe Isabelle's calm and collected demeanor will be an asset to the admin corps. –
FlyingAce✈hello 21:55, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I've had encounters with Isabelle before and like Maddy above, I thought they were already an admin. But clearly no. I haven't had any too recent interactions with them however from past experience I'd say they are deserving of the tools. ―
Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:56, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - no previous dealings with this editor, but they certainly seem an ideal candidate from what I can see. Best of luck!
Patient Zerotalk 22:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Could use the tools and I trust them to do so properly.
DatGuyTalkContribs 22:21, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support With two nominators I respect and no negative interactions with Isabelle, I support this nomination. We need more admins, especially those who are calm under pressure. LizRead!Talk! 00:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I have seen them around, and I like their content creation. They will be an excellent administrator.
Scorpions13256 (
talk) 00:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Always nice to see an editor with a wide range of good contributions step up. Thanks for volunteering.
Indignant Flamingo (
talk) 01:08, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support The nominators impart immediate trust on my part. --
Dolotta (
talk) 01:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Only comparatively recently have I seen Isabelle around, more specifically as a non-admin closer of several lengthy and somewhat controversial RfCs. In both cases their interpretation was sound, and their reasoning clear and detailed. A trio of traits that is nicely re-usable in any number of fields.
Nosebagbear (
talk) 02:01, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Pleasant and helpful, logical and reasonable, and knows how to produce good content.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 05:34, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Fair, reasonable, helpful. I'm not worried about the recall answer they gave as we have processes in place that have been shown to work that can address bad admin behavior. On a lighter note, how could I not support an editor who worked so hard on
Scary Stories for Young Foxes! Dr vulpes(
💬 •
📝) 07:24, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, no problems here. A familiar and welcome name on my watchlist. Graham87 07:25, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Thoroughly competent, no issues.
Maproom (
talk) 07:35, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Tempted to oppose on the basis of Q3's answer ~ an editor, a prospective admin no less, who apologises?? What next, the sky falling? ~ but most definitely support, regardless of the answer to my question. Happy days ~ LindsayHello 09:10, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Has created 2 GA articles, has decent AfD/CSD logs, and experience with closures is excellent, I saw one of the closures by Isabelle in an RSN RfC and it was detailed and nuanced. VickKiang(talk) 10:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support My only concern has been dealt with an in a positive way that is an excellent indication of how they will be a great admin.
Gusfriend (
talk) 10:02, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, look like Isabelle will make a good admin. --
Salix alba (
talk): 10:45, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – unreservedly. Thanks for volunteering.
Loopy30 (
talk) 11:21, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Helpful in RC patrol, trusted to block and revdel. ~~
lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 11:25, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, everytime I've seen them I've had a good impression. The signature issue didn't bother me, but their handling of it was great.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 11:52, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support The handling of their signature alone tells me they have the temperament to had issues as an admin. Add that to the work they have done, and for me it's a no-brainer.
RickinBaltimore (
talk) 12:34, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Fully qualified candidate with lots of content creation and anti-vandalism experience. The signature issue alone wasn't enough to sway me away from Support column, but its handling was also very impressive. —CX Zoom[he/him](
let's talk • {
C•
X}) 13:32, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Trusted and competent user.
Thingofme (
talk) 13:48, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Everything I can see about this editor makes me think they will be a good administrator. I'm particularly impressed by their answer to question #7; making reasonable accommodations for others even though per the rules you don't have to is a good attitude for an administrator. -
Aoidh (
talk) 13:52, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The most emphatic support possible. Will make a superb admin. ser!(
chat to me -
see my edits) 14:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Been around, has a clue.
Nardog (
talk) 14:39, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I felt compelled to !vote after seeing the neutral !vote below (even though it was since struck). I am awestruck, frankly, that this is the sort of ticky-tack stuff we are scrutinizing admin candidates over when they are otherwise competent and
clueful individuals, such as this one. And I also dearly hope that the candidate's stance on recall does not similarly provoke protest !votes. --🌈WaltCip-(
talk) 14:45, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Often see this user on recent changes. Experienced.
Sarrail (
talk) 16:22, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Edit summary usage is not 100% but appears to be trying to do that. Pro tip: go to preferences, editing, and tick the "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary)" box. CatfishJim and the soapdish 17:17, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Unfortunately, this fails to flag when an edit summary with a comment is automatically included. A software update would be appreciated.
Hawkeye7(discuss) 19:02, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Seen them around quite a bit at RCP. Isabelle is an absolute pleasure to patrol with. All of their reverts and most of their CSD taggings (I like to see a CSD log) were accurate, indicating an understanding of policy. A wonderful candidate that I’m more than happy to !support. My only regret is that I just missed out on being their 69th !support vote ;) ◇HelenDegenerate◆ 19:07, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support The signature discussion shows exactly why they will be a great admin. Someone raised an issue, and instead of doubling down, they took the constructive "criticism" on board. They fixed it. ACERFC2022 closures are icing on the cake. Kind, competent. Yes, please!
HouseBlastertalk 19:14, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Can't remember seeing them around but the contributions look good and I trust the noms. Regards
SoWhy 19:19, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I have seen Isabelle's work and believe they would be a good admin.
Funcrunch (
talk) 19:55, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Great contributor. Calm demeanor. Solid judgment. Multilingual. Woman. Welcome to adminship!
Cbl62 (
talk) 20:54, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I have ran into Isabelle through anti-vandalism patrol and found them to be knowledgeable of policies and guidelines and pleasant to edit with. In addition, I hold both nominators in extremely high regard. -- LuK3(Talk) 20:58, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Looks good. Best of luck. --
Vacant0 (
talk) 21:40, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I've been waiting for this. I've seen them around and I think their use of the admin tools will be beneficial.
NytharT.C 00:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Very well established user. ClydeState your case (please use {{
reply to|ClydeFranklin}} on reply) 00:49, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – Seems pleasant, competent and trusted. Good candidate.
DB1729talk 00:57, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I too was surprised to learn that they weren't already an admin, given how much I see them around. Competent, cool-headed, and overall a great candidate.
WindTempos(
talk •
contribs) 02:18, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Definitely!!! Will make a great admin
Vermont (
🐿️—
🏳️🌈) 02:19, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Why not? -
FASTILY 02:27, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Within the past week, and not for the first time, I considered urging them to run. I've encountered their work in both content and more adminny areas, and I'm impressed with both quantity and quality of their contributions to the project. In particular, I look forward to having another admin as experienced in closing discussions as Isabelle is.
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 02:57, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support it is my honor to support this candidate. Administrators are given resources because they are trusted members of the community, but this candidate's history and demeanor give me the feeling that they will among the best-of-the-best. Answer to my question was thoughtful and thorough, as have been their other answers to the questions. Knows content and policies. Plenty of experience. Nominated and supported by the best-of-the-best.
78.26(
spin me /
revolutions) 03:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support This candidate has strong qualifications, a friendly, helpful persona, and no negatives that I have been able to discern.
Cullen328 (
talk) 04:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Utterly competent and would be a net positive to the admin corps. — Red-tailed hawk(nest) 04:42, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Competent, well qualified, knowledgeable! –
Kavyansh.Singh (
talk) 11:42, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - quality content creation, discussion closes, and answers to questions here demonstrate thoughtful consideration of policies, guidelines, and the community.
Beccaynr (
talk) 15:38, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support User will be a great admin closer of contentious discussions.
GeoffreyT2000 (
talk) 15:46, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - A trustworthy, qualified candidate with the right temperment.
Netherzone (
talk) 15:56, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - no concerns.
GiantSnowman 16:03, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - not an editor I recall having encountered before, but reading the nominations and answer above, seems like a promising candidate.
Cordless Larry (
talk) 16:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: expertise across many areas of the site, including with content work, anti-vandalism, closing discussions and pt.wiki editing. Isabelle Belato is a
mentor and spotchecks show an excellent all-round temperament, including in contentious topics. No issues that I can see. —
Bilorv (talk) 16:52, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Looks competent; good answers to the questions. –
Ammarpad (
talk) 17:58, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Strong support - I see Isabelle all the time on Recent Changes kicking some serious vandal butt. Honest, no issues, and an all around great editor. I have no doubt that she will make a great admin.
— That Coptic Guy (
talk) 18:13, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I do not believe I have interacted with Isabelle, but from the nominations and answers to questions I support the adminship.
SWinxy (
talk) 19:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Great efforts in countering vandalism and I was impressed with their close of the most recent RfC on
Azov Regiment, easy support. --
TylerBurden (
talk) 20:24, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – I've seen them around and while I don't believe we've personally interacted, their actions have left a positive impression on me.
Clovermoss(talk) 20:52, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support clearly here to help the project & knows how to do it, not only not a jerk, but seems genuinely nice. --
Find bruce (
talk) 21:00, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Great content creation and has handled tricky RfC closures well. Cheers,
Chocmilk03 (
talk) 21:37, 9 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I see no reason why not.
MaxnaCarta (
talk) 02:05, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support and best wishes! Chlod (
say hi!) 03:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Once again, seems to have earned support from trustworthy users.
Daniel Case (
talk) 04:45, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I haven't seen any issues with them, and I've seen at least a couple of their closes of rfcs, which seemed to be quite competently done --
Tristario (
talk) 05:36, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I have no concerns with this candidate. Best of luck with the mop!
Rollidan (
talk) 07:50, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Seen them around plenty; trusted candidate, trusted noms. Thanks for putting yourself forward.
GirthSummit (blether) 08:21, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Seems candidate has a purpose and is suited for the role. Good luck! —
Ixtal(
T /
C ) ⁂
Non nobis solum. 10:11, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Ticks many of my boxes and convinces with a set of trusted nominators.
Modussiccandi (
talk) 10:14, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I find their answer satisfactory. I wish them good luck.--
Ideophagous (
talk) 10:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I am sad to hear their frustrations with ptWP and thankful for their contributions here on enWP and for running. Trusted noms and detailed support from others here. ~ 🦝
Shushugah (he/him •
talk) 12:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Solid editor with a good track record. No red or yellow flags. The sole oppose is unpersuasive. Good luck. -
Ad Orientem (
talk) 15:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support:
I was concerned about their
namespace totals and
edit summary usage, but namespace is reasonable given they do a lot of counter-vandalism work, and it looks like their edit summary use has improved dramatically, which I hope continues. Article creation is A+ as well. ~~~~— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
ThadeusOfNazereth (
talk •
contribs) 15:27, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Although I haven't interacted with them before, a quick look through their contribs shows that they have a need for the admin bit.
dudhhrtalkcontribs (he/they) 15:35, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Strong support -- An excellent vandal fighter that I have often encountered when they hit the push back button just a little before me. My vote you have :-),
Drummingman (
talk) 16:03, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I've seen the candidate around, and their activity and demeanor seem to make them a great fit for the mop. –
Epicgenius (
talk) 16:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Obvious choice and good thing for us. Good noms, solid answers, already respected. Not even close. Think she might have a chance, folks...
BusterD (
talk) 16:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per review and trusted noms and support !voters above, including HJM, Barkeep, NYB, and Rick. I particularly appreciated the handling of Q7, which indicates a temperament that can a great admin make.
Eddie891TalkWork 21:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Experienced and capable closer of discussions. I'm sure they will make a fine admin.
Pawnkingthree (
talk) 22:58, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I'm pleased with their closes of discussions and their responses at this RFA. I trust them to use the bit wisely; not using it when they don't know what they're doing. :)
Sennecaster (
Chat) 03:45, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I have seen a lot of thoughtful, detailed work by this user.
JehochmanTalk 05:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: exemplary dispute response and resolution skills. That’s huge. Julietdeltalima(talk) 05:11, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - experienced editor.
Tolly4bolly 05:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose because the candidate spells their name with two "L's" instead of one. I have seen other people with two "L's" in their name, and they abuse the tools. (JK... this is satire in reference to some of the more questionable reasons to oppose or neutral in this RfA and others). Support. Obviously.
It's me... Sallicio! 12:52, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Trusted, competent and experienced editor, I see no red flags here. I'm also thoroughly impressed with their answers, Easy support. –
Davey2010Talk 13:09, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Competent, has a clue, why not?
Hey man im josh (
talk) 13:16, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - trustworthy editor.
PhilKnight (
talk) 13:18, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I've seen
Isabelle Belato recently while doing vandalism cleanup and blocking/protection of articles and was impressed by their work. I haven't chimed in on an RfA for a while, but I was pleasantly surprised to see this nomination as we don't have a huge stream of new admins. -
Fuzheado |
Talk 14:24, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I have seen Isabelle around a fair bit, helping in various areas of the project. This editor is competent, experienced, and not a jerk. Happy to support.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 15:25, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - They've beat me to reverting vandalism a lot of times, I hope they'll maintain such speed after getting an admin bit.
a!rado (
C✙
T) 15:27, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Has clue, competent, no issues. Katietalk 16:14, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Clued in, competent, very much
here. I think Isabelle will be a boon to the admin corps!
Sideswipe9th (
talk) 16:18, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per Sideswipe9th.
John (
talk) 16:56, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I have not had any interactions with this candidate, but everything looks good to me. I trust the noms, I see widespread support from many editors/admins I trust, and it certainly appears that the candidate has a clue. We need the help, so I'm on board.
Atsme💬📧 17:36, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Have seen the name around, only positive associations so far. So support per noms and that.
Skynxnex (
talk) 17:46, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Very nice to see a familiar name get what they deserve! Undoubtedly worthy of adminship. I even remember the time I fought vandalism on their talk page... good times.
-GoatLordServant ☂ (
Talk -
Contribs) 18:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Experienced, dedicated and clueful. And has the right temperment, as displayed even duing this RFA.
Abecedare (
talk) 18:56, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Already an asset to the project and the mop and bucket will only increase that fact.
MarnetteD|
Talk 20:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: a first look at their contributions shows that they have been very active with anti-vandalism work. Giving a few additional buttons will help them even more with this task.
Aasim -
Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 21:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. No hesitation on my part. --Kinut/c 21:26, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Respected editor, have seen them around making great contributions. Obvious support.
echidnaLives (
talk) 21:59, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support — I think Isabelle would make a fine admin. —VersaceSpace🌃 02:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. An excellent editor, and soon an excellent admin.
GreenComputer (
talk) 03:39, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. No reason not to. /
Julle (
talk) 04:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Experienced candidate, will benefit the project with the tools. SpencerT•C 04:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I asked her about her involvement in conflict resolution, and I also note that she helped me with conflict resolution with an interminable case by closing a difficult RFC; and I don't see any reason not to authorize the tools.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 05:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Supportgood answers, to Q7 is a good example. And keeping a cool on-wiki-temper despite the events evolving...I guess Wikipedia gets a fine admin.
Paradise Chronicle (
talk) 06:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Super candidate - good luck!:)
— sparklism hey! 08:51, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support experienced (previous activity on other wiki), civil and could use the tools. That they forgot their old account is a human mistake, and, if maybe worth a gentle
trouting, not a reason to oppose. –
LordPeterII (
talk) 09:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support fully qualified and evidently capable candidate.
Wham2001 (
talk) 10:40, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Reasonably decent candidate who will grow into the role and make a fine administrator. scope_creepTalk 11:22, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: First time I've voted in a RfA in a long, long time.
Ravenswing 12:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Isabelle is a particularly helpful editor who has done a great job combatting vandalism over the past bit of time.
TartarTorte 13:38, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - Good AFD stats.
FOARP (
talk) 13:45, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - I do not often participate in RFAs but I want to register my support for Isabelle. They will quite clearly make an excellent admin.
WJ94 (
talk) 14:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - based upon review.
Kierzek (
talk) 16:25, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - nothing I can see to suggest there are skeletons in the cupboard, and the candidate has an excellent track record. Welcome to the corps. —
Amakuru (
talk) 20:04, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Seeing support from editors I'm both wary of and editors/admins I deeply trust. A candidate capable of drawing well-reasoned praise from editors of all stripes has my confidence; I'm hopeful for great things from them (no pressure!). ~
Pbritti (
talk) 02:29, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
200. Consistent RC patroller, content editor, and discussion closer. Good demeanor, no concerns.
Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 02:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support — Not much to add here that hasn't been said by others. Isabelle has a clear history of both improving articles and participating in wiki-chores like recent changes and AfD. They have a clear grasp of wiki policies and have show extraordinary civility in contentious discussions. I have no doubt they'll be an excellent admin.
Dylnuge(
Talk •
Edits) 04:34, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support I like the civility and commitment to making Wikipedia a better place.
🌊PacificDepthstalk|
contrib 06:02, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Isabelle seems thoughtful, responsible, and would clearly make a great contribution to Wikipedia by being an admin.
Llightex (
talk) 12:53, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I have checked a random sample of this user's contributions and I found nothing of concern.—
S MarshallT/
C 13:23, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I like the calm demeanor of the candidate, and in particular the stated inclination to start slowly. Unlikely to break anything, and likely to be a great help. --
Tryptofish (
talk) 14:37, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support Per nom and co-noms.
Sario528 (
talk) 14:39, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Great to have another long-time cross-wiki contributor running the gauntlet. Welcome to the company of admins.
Deryck C. 21:05, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
A few weeks ago, I mentally compiled a list of editors that could get adminship "at will", without need for nominators and with little opposition due to their competence and reputation. I am unsurprised to see half of that list here at RfA. While unthrilled by the lack of answers to Q13 and Q16 at the moment, I believe that the
answer to Q7 shows an
appropriate amount of consideration for others. One hopes that Isabelle will continue this approach in their adminship.
Sdrqaz (
talk) 01:32, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: Competent and wise, great add. to the board.
DarwinAhoy! 01:53, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Whole-hearted support. I have see seen
Isabelle around quite a lot, and I have the highest regard for her contributions. I am delighted to see that Isabelle is now a candidate to become an administrator.
JBW (
talk) 09:01, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support – a well-qualified candidate who will be an asset to the project.
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 10:34, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: I’ve seen them recently fight vandalism, and they seem fit for the role!
HarobouriT •
C (he/him)
Support: as per nom.--
Sabri76'talk 13:12, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support: I've encountered Isabelle a few times on the ol' recent changes patrol and I'm always happy to endorse editors who take on that task. What really persuades me, however, is the linked complex ACE closing, which is impressively succinct and clear. I'd love to see them continue their work as an admin.
Blue Edits (
talk) 17:02, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. I have confidence this candidate will be a good admin.
Egsan Bacon (
talk) 21:02, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support competent editor and I have confidence that they will make a good admin. I find those in opposition unconvincing -- I, for instance, forgot about Sandspert when I registered this account and started editing. Like Blaze Wolf, it was only after I was here for a bit and stumbled upon it in
Special:CentralAuth as a search suggestion did I recall it. --
TheSandDoctorTalk 21:05, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support. Well-qualified and deserving of the bit.
Tamwin (
talk) 21:11, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Just in time...? Basically I agree with the nominators, and additionally I have been consistently been impressed with their anti-vandalism work while patrolling Huggle. --
Dylan620 (he/him ·
talk ·
edits) 21:18, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
It's never too late until a 'crat comes along to close it!
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 21:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Or that RfC passes. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 21:29, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Support, net positive, clearly a productive and sensible editor. Aza24 (talk) 21:32, 14 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose
Oppose, per the "forgetting" of their account on Portuguese wiki. Doesn't pass the smell test.
Unbroken Chain (
talk) 13:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
What are you implying? 🌈WaltCip-(
talk) 14:44, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
People can forget their old accounts existed if they haven't used them for a long time.--
Ideophagous (
talk) 15:47, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Agreed. Heck, my alt (
User:Blaze Fire Wolf) is only older than this account because I Created it at one point to edit, and then forgot about it and never made an edit. I only discovered it again after I had been editing on this one for a bit. ―
Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:24, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I do want to remind everyone that humans make mistakes, all of them.
PerryPerryDTalk To Me 19:38, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
User:PerryPerryD, I agree and I'm not saying anything about this person or their character other then that I would not support as admin for that issue. By the look of the number of opposes (1)it a very isolated position so I'm sure they will do just fine regardless of this oppose and I wish them well and success either way.
Unbroken Chain (
talk) 22:06, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Unbroken Chain:, would you consider moving to "neutral" because the objection is not very strong and it would be nice to have a unanimous result. Thank you for considering it,
JehochmanTalk 03:00, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Jehochman:Sounds like they had a hell of a day and some goodwill might help, even if it is a gesture. It really was my only concern because the process of creating an account and email etc to me would be a memorable event, you get different emails and such that remind you of various things. On a secondary note I see you are working on a PhD, best wishes on that, I'd like to earn one of those myself but paying for it an altogether different matter. I hope you stay well and glad to see you stuck around after experiencing a rough go of things yourself.
Unbroken Chain (
talk) 03:21, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you, kind person. That's a very nice gesture.
JehochmanTalk 03:25, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose Based on the candidate's afd participation. In addition, based on discussion above I do not see any clear need for tools. TheresNoTime states that "Isabelle has kept away from editing content in the more contentious areas of Wikipedia". I am afraid that is not a quality that is needed in an administrator. FYI: it seems rather un-Democratic that an oppose ivote was completely wiped off the board. An admin could leave the ivote and strike the rationale. A
WP:PA or offensive material can be revdelled without a complete strike of an ivote.
Lightburst (
talk) 23:16, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
This is not an attempt to get you to change your vote because there is more to it than this. But Isabelle does a fair amount of recent change patrolling, which has been noted by several supports, where tools can be helpful for revdel, protection, and blocks. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 23:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks Barkeep49. I just do not think we need more admins who avoid contentious areas. I appreciate you messaging me about it. I may reread the board.
Lightburst (
talk) 23:29, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
That's also fair. I hope you'll indulge me then, in noting that I think TNT's comment was about where Isabelle edits. I think Isabelle has more of a willingness to get into contentious areas when they are UNINVOLVED. In question three Isabelle notes that they would have liked, for instance, to help close the Fox News RfC but felt that they couldn't because editors indicated (fairly I think) that it needed admin closer(s). In terms of a close they did perform, I think closing BLOCKEVIDENCE shows they're willing to get involved in high stakes issues that people feel strongly about. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 00:49, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Per the second part of your comment,
Wikipedia is not a democracy, and RfA is a consensus process like any other (hence why it's a
"!vote" instead of a vote). Striking an oppose that was purely a personal attack with no substance seems uncontroversial.
Dylnuge(
Talk •
Edits) 04:46, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I first met Isabelle when they were clearing a backlog of unclosed discussions. From what I saw they are perfectly willing to get into highly contentious areas, and they do a good job being neutral, objective, and fair. Maybe you could ask them a question about this and see what they say.
JehochmanTalk 12:25, 13 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Neutral
Neutral I think that their contributions are good and they have been nominated by users who's judgement I trust. Unfortuately I cannot support anyone for Admin whilst their signature does not contain their full username. Having the displayed signature being different to the user name makes things just that little bit harder for newcomers (and even more experienced users sometimes). It means that when editors look at a talk page conversation there is a disconnect between how the user may be referred to and how their signature is presented. This can become more acute as admins are often dealing with situations where editors will already be stressed or frustrated. I realise that this may seem somewhat arbitrary and having signatures like this is supported by consensus but that is how I feel.
Gusfriend (
talk) 22:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC) 10:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
This is a good point. Although I may find myself in the Support column soon, I hope Isabelle takes note of the issue you raise here. —CX Zoom[he/him](
let's talk • {
C•
X}) 22:18, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Just to be clear, you're objecting to them signing with Isabelle instead of Isabelle Belato?
Valereee (
talk) 22:48, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I can see where this comes from, but I don't think this would be a reason for me to be neutral or oppose especially as this shortening is just removing what seems to be to be a last name.
Dreamy Jazztalk to me | my contributions 23:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I am not objecting to them signing with Isabelle rather than Isabelle Belato, that is acting within consensus and a perfectly reasonable thing to do. I am however choosing to be Neutral rather than Support for their application for administratorship based on it. In the last month I have seen the wrong people pinged due to this and it has caught me out several times where I have followed a link to a user talk page and then had to go back to confirm that I am in the right place. I have no trouble with use of colours, etc. or clever talk page link text but this is where I have the concern. I realise that my reasoning may put me in a minority of one and it is a quixotic approach and otherwise they look like an excellent choice but that is where I am coming from.
Gusfriend (
talk) 00:01, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Would a simple correction to a signature change your stance on this candidate, Gusfriend? I agree that some signatures I've seen are indecipherable but I usually leave a comment about this on the editor's talk page and they make a change. LizRead!Talk! 00:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't think it's fair to call Isabelle's signature indecipherable. Obviously they're going to see this discussion and can, as CX Zoom suggests, decide if they wish to tweak their signature. I do appreciate Gusfriend noting that what Isabelle has done is well with-in current community consensus for signatures. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 00:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Certainly Liz and if I hadn't been giving it some thought over the last few weeks I would have been really happy to support such a strong candidate. Overall they appear to be an excellent candidate and are receiving broad support from a large number of trusted editors.
Gusfriend (
talk) 00:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I must say I struggle to understand why this would warrant an oppose !vote. Many administrators and experienced users shorten their signatures, or put their real names in instead, because they are able to be personalised and as such people will have their own unique ways of doing this. Plus, they have only removed their surname, and one can simply hover over the username/look in the signature in the source code to see the full username. If the signature had clashing colours that were difficult to read, I would understand, but this is not the case.
Patient Zerotalk 02:12, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't think the signature is a problem, but I do a lot of editing using the desktop site on my phone, and the hover-to-see-full-username thing doesn't work when using a phone (or a tablet I assume). There's a growing share of editors that edit from mobile, so hovering shouldn't be seen as a workaround.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 02:18, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Then you could always look in the signature code instead - for example, say I decided to go by "PZ" in my signature, when editing a Wikipedia page you can see the user's full username in the signature code, so you would be able to see my username is in fact Patient Zero. I understand it may take a while to get used to for newer editors, granted.
Patient Zerotalk 02:24, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
@
ScottishFinnishRadish: when using desktop view on the phone, leaving a link pressed for a few seconds makes the navigation popup pop up (heehee
). –
FlyingAce✈hello 03:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC) reply
Neither of these is good, as one requires opening a different page and looking for the signature to see the username, and the navigation popup seldom displays the full length of the url, and you can't copy the username to ping.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 11:50, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
What is needed here is neither a neutral !vote nor a pile-on condemnation, but a question to the user, which I have now asked (#7). —
Bilorv (talk) 07:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
There are around a dozen user names that begin with 'Isabelle', if not more. What is needed is a good faith minor tweak to the signature. In any case, as far as this RfA is concerned, it's not a dealbreaker.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
talk) 08:38, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Absolutely. Did you mean RfA,
Kudpung? Happy days ~ LindsayHello 09:14, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
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