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Recently, I remember seeing that someone had commented to you about using the "Work" versus the "Publisher" field when writing web citations. I don't remember where it was, and I can't seem to find it anywhere. Do you remember which one we were supposed to use for web citations from sites like IGN and GameSpot? — OranL ( talk) 16:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! — OranL ( talk) 16:01, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Félix Houphouët-Boigny needs to be copyedited and peer reviewed. We would appreciate any and all help from the crack members of the FA-Team! Sign up here. Merci! Awadewit ( talk) 12:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

When you close a peer review, please remember to change the {{ peer review}} template on the article talk page to the {{ oldpeerreview}} template, like this: [1] — Carl ( CBM ·  talk) 12:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, if you look back to the Characters of Halo FT nom, you'll recall that the nom ultimately failed to include Nicole (Dead or Alive) because at that time she was not properly integrated into Characters of Halo or Template:Halo characters. Well, as I know you're aware, she's now integrated, and has been for over a month. I think we should bring a nom to add her to the topic; in fact, I feel that now she is integrated properly, not including her would cause the topic to fail criterion 1.d), as I think she constitutes an obvious gap. Thoughts? rst20xx ( talk) 14:21, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, it's here - rst20xx ( talk) 20:13, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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Okay I just made a cabal that was created to focus on one article at a time and then the entire cabal would have helped to get that article to at least GA status(or even FA). So I then requested the cabal to be deleted after a long talk about it and so i then had a conversation with Keeper 76 and xeno about the cabal after the deletion. Afterwords, xeno suggested a GA FA taskforce in WP:VG that would do the same thing my cabal would have done. So now i come before the grand court known as WP:VG to suggest a GA FA taskforce. My taskforce will pick one article at a time to build, move to another and and build that one. This would give WP:VG many more GA and FA. Consider my proposal. Gears of War 2 21:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Are you supporting or opposing this FAC? I see some comments but you don't seem to have taken a stand on it. It's gotten surprisingly little feedback compared to some other VG candidates. -- Laser brain (talk) 22:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Are you going to be merging the remaining Myst articles that aren't going to be in the featured topic your building before your nominate the topic? I think that would be a good idea :) That way, no gaps, no other articles floating around in the ether. Just thought I should mention it. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 04:15, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey David. I've updated the UNSC section with information from the recent interview. Chances are there might be some more content from Bungie on its way regarding the UNSC. So, perhaps we should consider creating a separate UNSC article where we could expand the information? The section on Factions of Halo is already becoming a bit over-flowery. Halopedia's article is very unstable, and a lot of it is unsourced and unverified - some of it being just plain speculation. We need an article where trusty UNSC information can be added. Hope you will consider this, and maybe you could run it by the WP:HALO community. Thank you. -- UNSC Trooper ( talk) 12:53, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I didn't think of the popular reception until now. I guess it's alright as it is, then. We might add additional info once The Cole Protocol comes out and other interviews are announced. Oh and by the way, shouldn't the other sections of the article have pictures too; like the Flood and the Covenant? -- UNSC Trooper ( talk) 14:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I forgot those sections had separate articles. What was I thinking? :P Oh and I just got a crazy idea. Maybe we could have a "Minor Factions" section where we could include the rebels? I don't know how efficient that would be, but it's an idea. -- UNSC Trooper ( talk) 14:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I was referring to the Eridanus Rebels, the Insurrectionists, the Secessionist Union , and the United Rebel Front. The introduction to the UNSC section isn't large enough to expand on those factions. We could mention them in the introduction, but I think they do deserve a little description from what is known. -- UNSC Trooper ( talk) 15:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, you have a point. Mentioning them in the UNSC section should so, I guess. -- UNSC Trooper ( talk) 16:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Would you please consider unprotecting the Spirit Airlines article as it seems at this point to be no more prone to Vandalism than any of the other articles in the Airlines project. Your original reasoning, which appears to be related to edits made last year between Sox23 and Diemachr, is long outdated and that argument extinguished for some time now. If it is not your block which is currently in effect and you have recieved this message in error then please pass it on to whomever it would concern at this point in time. Thanks! 68.52.36.127 ( talk) 17:02, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 5 - July 2008 Archive before | Archive After To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. Project At a Glance As of July 2008, the project has: 92 Featured articles 19 Featured Lists 11 Featured Topics 0 articles in Featured Article Review 16 A-Class articles 231 Good Articles 1 articles in Good Article Review 11 articles for Peer review Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics Promoted FA/FL: Flood (Halo), List of songs in Guitar Hero: Aerosmith, List of voice actors in the Grand Theft Auto series, Super Smash Bros. Brawl Topic: Devil May Cry (series), Super Smash Bros. 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• Newsletter delivery by xenobot 22:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

It is okay, David, twas not your fault. Since the FAC is closed, we can use Talk:Conan (2007 video game)#Pre-FAC threshing out session as a common area to thresh out its issues. Good luck at the university! (Medical, Engineering, or ...? When is the start of the term?) Jappalang ( talk) 00:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi David. Are you going to finish reviewing Conan by Friday? I hope to try the article for FAC again by then. Thank you. Jappalang ( talk) 22:26, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

David, I have acted on some of your concerns in the section. Once you have the time, please take a look. Thank you. Jappalang ( talk) 22:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but is Conan in good shape for FAC after the changes AnnaFrance has made? I am afraid that Laser brain has gone into a Wikibreak again... Jappalang ( talk) 00:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

With Laser brain's seeming inactivity, I named the article at FAC again. Thank you for your patience and help in whacking the article to better shape. Hopefully it can get more attention than it did last time (wrote up a DYK-type nomination to catch some attention). Jappalang ( talk) 08:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

		The Editor's Barnstar
		I hereby award you The Editor's Barnstar for doing a good job in cleaning up the Fable (video game) article! SilentAria talk 09:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I just saw the work you did on the Fable (video game) article, and I just wanted to let you know how happy I am that someone finally managed to clean it up! I tried my best to do it myself, but there was just so much stuff in it that I honestly didn't know where to start. I think I might have actually messed it up a bit more, but thank goodness you came along to fix it! Thank you so much, and keep up the good work! :D -- SilentAria ^talk 09:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Haha, I actually wish I was better at editing video game articles, so it isn't that sad. XD I actually have a pretty good screenshot of the Hero using a Will skill on multiple enemies; it's just that I didn't know where to put it in the article since I thought that the melee battle one was sufficient enough. I uploaded the screenshot here so you can take a look and see if it's suitable for the article before I go and upload it here. Oh, and that good Hero in the image is actually maxed out on the goodness scale, but I don't have a shot of him with the halo and butterflies; I think they only appear when the Hero stands still for a long time and the camera's zoomed out. I'd take another screenshot, but my computer's been having problems running 3D games, so I can't. I'll try to look around the internet and see if I can find a better image. :) -- SilentAria ^talk 08:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I can't find any more sources online for Ghosts of Onyx (I just realised that its acronym is goo), I doubt that there would be any offline except perhaps The Halo Effect book. I'm going put it up for GAC but I thought I'd check with you first in case you have any links to sources that you never got around to including or anything like that. Cheers, James086 ^{Talk | Email} 13:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh well, off to the nominations page then! Thanks, James086 ^{Talk | Email} 14:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Here's to our two massive upcoming Halo topics! :) Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 23:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

All four have had peer reviews, which was harder for some than others since some are very small, but I did the corrections. Now, just need to pass the four remaining; Ghosts of Onyx, Uprising, I love bees and Marketing of Halo 3. Then we can go for it! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 00:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I'm currently improving the Final Fantasy VII article, and I've been following your idea of summarising development in the lead. To be quite honest, I haven't seen many do this, so I was wondering if you could take a look and see if it's sufficient. Thanks. The Prince ( talk) 14:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Greetings! You are receiving this message because you said you wanted to be reminded about future DC meetups on Wikipedia:Meetup/DC_4. We are planning the next DC meetup in late August/early September at Wikipedia:Meetup/DC_5, and would love to have your input. Staeiou ( talk) 15:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you do me a favour? I'd like to move Sam & Max Freelance Police over to Sam & Max: Freelance Police, as the game should have a colon in it, but there used to be a disambiguation page at the move destination, so despite it now being a redirect I can't move it. Could you make the move for me? Thanks, Sabre ( talk) 17:29, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank ye muchly my friend! -- Sabre ( talk) 14:03, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

David, I left a suggestion for an interview at WT:FCDW; I'm wondering if I can interest you in having another one ready to go in a pinch? Pls respond over there to have it all in one place. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, David ... in case you want to have another one on standby:

• Perhaps this could also include an interview with User:Ruhrfisch, who makes sure every peer review has at least one non-automated comment. Karanacs (talk) 13:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep me posted at the Dispatch. Best regards, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 02:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

David, can you move User:David Fuchs/brag in to WP:FCDW/August 25, 2008, so Tony1 can begin to pick on it? Thanks again, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Do you want to add a front-end, patterning it after the front-end at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-07-14/Dispatches, or do you want Tony1 to do that? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

How about if you throw something in, patterning it after the Rick Block intro, to give Tony1 something to start with? He still has to get through the August 18 Dispatch. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Looks great, thanks David ! How about lining up User:Ruhrfisch next? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you can remember previous discussions about the issue of finding Japanese sales data. Any ideas on where I can find reliable sources other than directly from a issue of Famitsu? « ₣M₣ » 13:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually the issue was brought up here Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games. I'm not too certain if Chart Track and Japan game-charts' procedure of tracking sales data will suffice. « ₣M₣ » 14:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure - You can interview me. -- mav ( talk) 14:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I noticed you redirected the San Andreas (Grand Theft Auto) article to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Since this redirect is definitely controversial and I've found no evidence whatsoever of a merge discussion, whether on WP:VG or talk pages of two article or anywhere else, would you please explain why did you do this? Admiral Norton ^{( talk)} 21:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Oops, didn't notice it. Sorry. Admiral Norton ^{( talk)} 21:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Where is this discussion? I didn't see it in the talk history of either page. - mattbuck ( Talk) 10:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Opening a can of worms: Merging the GTA location articles. — Giggy 13:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Addressing LTTP directly, especially with comments to the effect that he doesn't care about policy and isn't listening etc., isn't productive or helpful. It only inflames things and obscures useful debate. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 02:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I know... I'm flippin' tired of dealing with someone who doesn't listen to policy. Either way, it's done. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^{( talk)} 02:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Bear in mind that if ALTTP can provide a relevant editorial policy, it isn't done. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 02:04, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Huh... chances of that are....really small, the way discussion panned out. Whatever, I'm going to leave the good cruft-fighting battle to you guys who don't get riled up about dealing with those chaps and will retire to my article-writing corner with smoking jacket and bubble pipe. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^{( talk)} 02:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Even then, he'd have to find proof of editorial oversight for the three different "eras" covered under the entire episode listing. There's the independent youtube released ones, the screwattack hosting ones, the "provided as feed to gametrailers via screwattack" ones, and then the ones as an employee of gametrailers. My thoughts are, the only ones he may be able to find a relevant editorial policy for are the ones produced as a direct employee of GameTrailers/Mtv. And that's an iffy may. -- Marty Goldberg ( talk) 08:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

This brings back bad memories. Ashnard _Talk ^Contribs 10:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Wow, looks like the usual suspects were involved in drawing out that one as well. -- Marty Goldberg ( talk) 18:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the extensive review, your comments were very helpful. Some things have come up which haven't left me as much time as is necessary to devote to bringing it up to scratch at this time, so I'm going work on your (and other) concerns in my own time and possibly put it through a peer review before bringing it back in a few months. Thanks for express your concerns so candidly. naerii 15:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, Link should be up there, it does not matter if you don't like him, he has a game star, just like sonic and mario and is one of the most popular characters in the gaming world. So leave him up there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kraid117 ( talk • contribs) 05:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the new image. I think all images seem ok now. Any more concerns? -- Efe ( talk) 06:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Now an FA. Thank you. -- Efe ( talk) 00:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Dave, you might want to see commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Images from Myst and reupload/undelete the two before they're deleted on Commons (it was my mistake to transfer; wasn't paying enough attention). — Giggy 13:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I think I thought the same thing as you... turns out only one of them was free. I think I recall you speak German; could you try and sort out the fair use usage of them on DeWP (click check usage at the top of the image pages on Commons to get a link to the article)? I left a note on the article talk pages but it'd be good to get a native speaker explain what the hell's going on. — Giggy 13:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Dismal > none at all. — Giggy 14:19, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits so far; I think I've got most of the citations and actual content down, but I will need help copyediting, and your help is greatly appreciated! :) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^{( talk)} 12:33, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

You are most certainly welcome, David! I will give the article another look later this week, but I am extremely busy this week with work, so do not take my non-edits as disinterest. You've improved this article significantly, and it deserves some attention. Firsfron of Ronchester 13:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Do you think this is a good title for the article? I am torn, as most of the article surrounds the events in Brookfield, CT, although this mans trail was the center of it. Should it be called the "Demon Murder Trail" instead? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 19:49, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much David! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 20:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, weird isn't it? I just follow whatever interests me when I work on wikipedia, and I started reading about this incident, and I was really compelled to present it in a factual way from start to finish. I hope to take it to FA, but it will be a trip, I don't think they have had an article like this one before! :) Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 20:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about the delay. AWB has been having a few issues lately. Here is the august issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter! Dr. Cash ( talk) 20:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

The The WikiProject Good articles Newsletter

The The WikiProject Good articles Newsletter Volume I, No. 10 – August 2008 July issue Project News There are currently 4,675 Good Articles listed at WP:GA. The backlog at Good Article Nominations is 141 unreviewed articles. Out of 186 total nominations, 28 are on hold, 14 are under review, and 3 are seeking a second opinion. Please go to WP:GAN and review an article or three as soon as you have a chance! The oldest unreviewed articles are: Juggernaut (wrestler), Dark Angel (wrestler), Irrigation in Peru, Tropical cyclone rainfall forecasting, Coltrane for Lovers, Bayshore Freeway, Jon Cryer, Heather Mills, New York State Route 273, and Tsugaru clan. The categories with the largest backlogs are: Theatre, film, and drama (28 articles), Sports and recreation (27 articles), Music (22 articles), Transport (18 articles), and War and military (13 articles). There are currently 4 articles up for re-review at Good Article Reassessment. Congratulations! There really is no "backlog" here! :-) GA Sweeps is Recruiting Reviewers We are once again recruiting new sweeps participants. Candidates should be very strong and comfortable in reviewing GA and familiar with the GA processes and criteria. If you are interested, please contact OhanaUnited for details. GAN Reviewer of the Month ThinkBlue ( talk · contribs) is the GAN Reviewer of the Month for July, based on the assessments made by Dr. Cash on the number and thoroughness of the reviews made by individual reviewers each week. ThinkBlue had a whopping 49 reviews during the month of July! ThinkBlue was also one of our two reviewers of the month from June, and has been editing Wikipedia since December 1, 2006, and is interested in articles dealing with Friends, Will and Grace, CSI:Miami, Monday Night Raw, Coldplay. Congratulations to Giggy ( talk · contribs) on being May's GAN Reviewer of the Month! Other outstanding reviewers during the month of July include: Gary King ( talk · contribs) Giggy ( talk · contribs) Lpangelrob ( talk · contribs) Nikki311 ( talk · contribs) Peanut4 ( talk · contribs) Also, with 17 nominations, Mr.crabby ( talk · contribs) is the nominator of the month. Member News There are now 223 members of WikiProject Good Articles! Welcome to the 7 new members that joined during the month of July: 97198 ( talk · contribs) Carbonrodney ( talk · contribs) Gary King ( talk · contribs) Omaga99 ( talk · contribs) Protonk ( talk · contribs) RSkyhawk ( talk · contribs) Samuel Tan ( talk · contribs) This WikiProject, and the Good Article program as a whole, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all! GA Sweeps Process The GA Sweeps process has recently reached its first year anniversary. If you are unaware of what GA Sweeps is, it is a process put in place to help ensure the integrity of the ever-growing number of GAs, by determining if the articles still meet the GA criteria. Experienced reviewers check each article, improving articles as they review them, and delisting those that no longer meet the criteria. Reviewers work on a specific category of GAs, and there are still many categories that need to be swept. In order to properly keep track of reviews, a set date was used to determine what articles needed to be reviewed (since any future GAs would be passed according to the most recent GA criteria). The number of GAs that were to be reviewed totals 2,808. Since the beginning of Sweeps, the progress has reviewed 981 by the end of July 2008 (or exempted them). For a table and chart breakdown of the current progress, see here. With more than twenty editors reviewing the articles, progress is currently a third of the way done. At this rate, it will take another two years to complete the Sweeps, and active involvement is imperative to completing on time. We are always looking for new reviewers, and if you are interested in helping in speeding up the Sweeps process and improving your reviewing skills, please contact OhanaUnited. Did You Know... ... that the goal of GA Sweeps is to reviewed all articles listed before 26 August 2007? ... that the entire category of, "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" has been swept? ... that of all subcategories, "Recordings, compositions and performances" in the Music category has the most articles (240 articles in total)? ... that the GA project was recently mentioned in a Wall Street Journal article entitled, " Wikipedians Leave Cyberspace, Meet in Egypt," on Wikipedia on August 8, 2008? From the Editor Please leave any comments or feedback regarding this issue here. Contributors to this Issue Dr. Cash (Lead Editor, Distributor) OhanaUnited (GA Sweeps Correspondent) Nehrams2020 (Article Correspondent) Improving Wikipedia one article at a time since 2005! WikiProject Good Articles: Open Tasks This project identifies, organizes and improves good articles on Wikipedia. Nominations: Madame X (album) ( talk | history | start review) • Gedling Town F.C. ( talk | history | start review) • Reggie Barnes (skateboarder) ( talk | history | start review) • Exile (American band) ( talk | history | start review) • Jude Law ( talk | history | start review) Reassessment: Louie Caporusso • Northallerton • Patrick Omameh • Task forces: Project quality • Sweeps • GAN Backlog Drives • GA Cup WikiProject Good articles newsletter (last updated January 2013) Good article criteria | Statistics | GAN Report | Changes log Nominations list |

Sorry about the delay. AWB has been having a few issues lately. Here is the august issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter! Dr. Cash ( talk) 20:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

The The WikiProject Good articles Newsletter

The The WikiProject Good articles Newsletter Volume I, No. 10 – August 2008 July issue Project News There are currently 4,675 Good Articles listed at WP:GA. The backlog at Good Article Nominations is 141 unreviewed articles. Out of 186 total nominations, 28 are on hold, 14 are under review, and 3 are seeking a second opinion. Please go to WP:GAN and review an article or three as soon as you have a chance! The oldest unreviewed articles are: Juggernaut (wrestler), Dark Angel (wrestler), Irrigation in Peru, Tropical cyclone rainfall forecasting, Coltrane for Lovers, Bayshore Freeway, Jon Cryer, Heather Mills, New York State Route 273, and Tsugaru clan. The categories with the largest backlogs are: Theatre, film, and drama (28 articles), Sports and recreation (27 articles), Music (22 articles), Transport (18 articles), and War and military (13 articles). There are currently 4 articles up for re-review at Good Article Reassessment. Congratulations! 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Hey David, I was wondering if you could do a quick look over of the images in Space Invaders. I think the prose and sources are ready for FAC, but images are not really my strong point. It would be very much appreciated. ( Guyinblack25 ^talk 20:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC))

Glad the PR was useful. I guess I would be OK being interviewed. My two fears are that a) there are a lot of people who do peer reviews and I don't want to make it seem like I am the only one, or am trying to take too much credit and b) that tons more people will submit PR requests, further inundating the system ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Then make sure one of the questions addresses how we can get more people to help you (and don't forget to work in WP:FCDW/March 17, 2008). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:03, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I started my replies. My initial answers sound goofy to my ears - I guess I thought it would be more about PR and less about me. Is this what you are looking for? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, I will work on it more in the next few days. Thanks, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Given the intro, it might be relevant to mention the Creating, Destroying, and Restoring Value in Wikipedia study and link to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-10-08/Vandalism study. I'm mentioned in that study... Search for 'Maveric149'. -- mav ( talk) 04:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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Shouldn't there still be a Government section on the UNSC page? -- UNSC Trooper ( talk) 18:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I cannot seem to get this off my mind but did this Image:Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games.jpg have a more elaborate FUR than Image:Mario & Sonic.jpg ? « ₣M₣ » 00:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

David, can you revisit Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sri Lankan Tamil people to see if the images are resolved? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 00:38, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment and your support. To be honest, I've been freaking out a bit ever since the debate went live. The encouragement helps. Cheers! TN‑ X- Man 12:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I should be thanking you. It's encouraging to know that at least one other person understands basic content policies. Punctured Bicycle ( talk) 20:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I fulfilled your magazine request here. —— Mitaphane _{Contribs | Talk} 04:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't have an imageshack or the like account. I've uploaded the review here for you. Good luck with your editing. —— Mitaphane _{Contribs | Talk} 01:56, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I lol'd at this. [2] bibliomaniac 1 5 02:27, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

That's exactly why the gamer is a dying breed... bibliomaniac 1 5 02:46, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, was reviewing other articles from our 200+ article review backlog yesterday so I didn't get back to you.

On the characters section, the normal minimum is about one full paragraph per character. (If there isn't that much to say about them, they probably aren't a major character to begin with.) I'm fine with not having text citations for the plot/character sections, since verifiability on that is met by just having a general reference to the book. -- erachima talk 19:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi David. I have struck all my previous questions but have raised new ones. Please take a look. If you are looking for a copyeditor, might I recommend User:EyeSerene and User:AnnaFrance, both of whom I have excellent experiences with. Jappalang ( talk) 00:03, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Yo! I think everything save prose (which is also kinda a weak point for me) looks great. I am holding off a judgment until Nishkid64 confirms there are no new sources (with substantial information) to be added though. Jappalang ( talk) 01:02, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Are Williston, Reed, Carlin, and Lakes in Image:OCmarsh.jpg? Jappalang ( talk) 01:05, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I found the photo in question here on the Peabody's Museum's site. That should help you in your inquiries to the museum. The additional information regarding the photo can also be used for the image's page itself. Jappalang ( talk) 22:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar! Jappalang ( talk) 14:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2008

You gonna try again this year? — Giggy 07:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

You should run. Who needs them articles things, anyways, when you have teh dramaz!!!?

(Please don't use that as incentive not to run. You'd be great, IMO.)

— Giggy 02:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey David - would you mind getting on Google Talk or AIM (my username = WholesomeFolsom) for a bit?-- daniel folsom 03:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

oh my god i gave you the wrong username ... d'oh - sorry i'm used to ichat, where you just see DANIEL - it's FolsomWholesome-- daniel folsom 03:55, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

gmail=danielfolsom@gmail.com :D -- daniel folsom

hey David, sorry, if you get a chance could you get on google talk again?-- daniel folsom 02:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you think that it's okay if I bring an "indefinitely postponed" article to FA? It's GA and not listed as "Future-class", and I'd like to get it to FA. Thoughts? Gary King ( talk) 04:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I will probably add stuff, but I don't think I can do it within the next few days. I'm confident that my concerns will probably be addressed by the conclusion of the FAC. If not, I'll be expanding the article myself later on, if that's alright with you. Nishkid64 _{( Make articles, not wikidrama)} 19:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

You done with needing replies from me? If so, I'll take it off my watchlist. Also, I finished up what you dropped on me about Stigand. (grins) Yeah, I know, get back to sourcing issues. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Dave, could you elaborate on what you are endorsing here? Is it Anthony's comment?--- Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 02:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, David. I came to ask the same thing, and about your endorsement of east's statement as well. Just for clarification, as you are surely free to endorse whoever you agree with. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 04:35, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

What, in your opinion, would be extreme incivility worthy of action? I kinda feel with Behnam we locked away a murderer on charges of tax evasion. By the end of my interaction with him, I was kind of treating him like the insane uncle at a family reunion that everyone ignores except to clean the drool off his face. AzureFury ( talk | contribs) 02:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure... do you have a time limit or anything? · AndonicO ^Engage. 10:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, okay, I can do it before then (probably... one to two weeks?). · AndonicO ^Engage. 11:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

"I love deadlines. Especially the whooshing sound they make when they go by." - Douglas Adams. ;) · AndonicO ^Engage. 11:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your support at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bone Wars. I'm afraid that while I'm a big dinosaur nut, I pale in comparison to the guys at WP:DINO (which is why I haven't actually gone at any real dinosaur article improvement and just tangental histories.) As for the citation method (I guess I just kinda made it up for Chicxulub Crater), what is the "standard" form you use? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^{( talk)} 11:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi David! :)

You know, you've done great work at Chicxulub Crater and at Bone Sharps... and now Bone Wars. They're really quite wonderful articles. Anyway, the taxonomy articles all use a direct reference method (See Stegosaurus#Footnotes for details) instead of citing the work and page number with a list of full references. I'm not actually advocating that you switch at this point (would be silly, and honestly, any citation style should work). Firsfron of Ronchester 13:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which did not succeed with 47 support, 21 oppose, and 1 neutral. I appreciate both the supports and the opposes. Thanks again and cheers! TN‑ X- Man 18:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

An editor is raising a concern about Image:Baisden-and-Sharpton.jpg on the Jena Six FAC because even though it has a proper OTRS license, the image doesn't give its source info. Do you think there's anything you could do to remedy this, or if it is an unjustified concern, could you post a note to that effect?-- Wehwalt ( talk) 18:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi there,

Thank you for your comments on the Harry Potter peer review, located at Wikipedia:Peer review/Harry Potter/archive3 - I've been through the list and I think that I have completed all of the points, so I ask that you look at the article again, if there are any more problem with it.

Thanks again,

The Helpful One ^(Review) 19:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Video Games Newsletter

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 6 - August 2008 Archive before | Archive after To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. Project At a Glance As of August 2008, the project has: 97 Featured articles 20 Featured Lists 11 Featured Topics 1 articles in Featured Article Review 17 A-Class articles 238 Good Articles 0 articles in Good Article Review 14 articles for Peer review Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics Promoted FA/FL: 4X, Alleyway, Conan (2007 video game), List of songs in Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock, Midtown Madness, Wipeout 3 Topic: None Demoted FA/FL: None Promoted GA: Chocolatier, Cloud Strife, Discography of Final Fantasy I and II, Discography of Final Fantasy VII, The Guardian Legend, Guitar Hero III Mobile, Halo: First Strike, Halo: Ghosts of Onyx, Key Sounds Label, Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete, Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Necrid, Paper Mario, Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire, Secret of Evermore, StarCraft: Brood War, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Xenogears Original Soundtrack Demoted GA: GoldenEye 007 News Special note: The naming convention for the newsletter has altered. Instead of being labeled the month it is delivered, it is now labeled the month the content applies to. See discussion. There were 204 new articles in August 2008 Inactive project cleanup Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here. The following Wikiprojects are candidates to be turned into task forces. Nintendo Project: See discussion. Castlevania Project: See discussion. Pro Gaming Project: See discussion. The first video game genre article has reached Featured article status— 4X. Special thanks to Randomran for pushing the article up the quality scale. Feature: Departments Assessment Department: This department focuses on assessing the quality of Wikipedia's video games articles. The resulting article ratings are used within the project to aid in recognizing excellent contributions and identifying topics in need of further work, and are also expected to play a role in the WP:1.0 program, and more specifically in the Video games essential articles page. Two new quality ratings have been implemented into the Assessment Department's scale. The new Wikipedia-wide C-Class rating (see category) has been added to the scale between Start-Class and B-Class. Because of this, the criteria of the B-Class has been tweaked to better illustrate the difference between a B-Class and C-Class article. An older rating, List-Class (see category), has been added to the scale as well. It is mainly used on pages that have very little prose and are primarily tables and lists of information. Editors are encouraged to submit articles for assessment if they feel an article has made significant progress up the assessment scale or has gained importance within video game articles. Assessed articles generally receive some feedback to further improve the article. Experienced editors are also encouraged to help with assessment of articles when the number of requests gets too large. Peer Review Department: The Peer review process for WikiProject Video games exposes video-game-related articles to closer scrutiny from a broader group of editors, and is intended for high-quality articles that have already undergone extensive work, often as a way of preparing a Featured article candidate. It is not a academic peer review by a group of experts in a particular subject, and articles that undergo this process should not be assumed to have greater authority than any other. Editors are encouraged to use the Video game peer review process, as well as the regular Wikipedia-wide process, to improve the quality of articles. 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What other channels were you referring to, David? - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 17:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I've responded to your comments at the FAC here: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Stigand. And congrats on Bone Wars! Ealdgyth - Talk 12:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi,

I noticed you deleted the following section for violating WP:OR --

Jacques occasionally invites other webcomic creators to do stand-alone strips for QC. The guest comics count towards the total amount of strips on the QC website, but do not seem to be considered canonical, since none of the events in the guest strips are ever referred to again when Jacques resumes authorship. Jacques also breaks from normal continuity every American Thanksgiving with an "OMG Turkeys" strip, featuring pictures of turkeys commenting on the current events of the strip. When Jeph is sick, he breaks continuity with a Yelling Bird, explaining what he's got and a quick joke. The joke is usually at his expense. Later, a female character has been used instead of the Yelling Bird strip. Jeph has said ^{citation needed} that she could be included among the normal characters.

I think most of this could be kept in (from "The joke is usually as his expense" to the end of the paragraph could go, as it's not very encyclopaedic or notable anyway), maybe adding two footnotes with examples of Thanksgiving comics and Yelling Bird comics, respectively. The fact that those strips exist is verifiable and not really OR (analyzing them in depth would be OR, but just mentioning that they're there is not, as far as I can tell), and is the kind of information that might be nice to have in the article.

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