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Should this be considered to add on to the Madame X (album) page as Alternative Artwork/Standard Edition Artwork? https://www.drownedmadonna.com/2019/04/17/madonnas-madame-x-standard-edition-cover/ Rblxhrt ( talk) 00:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Yes, the deluxe edition cover is most widely recognized as the cover of the album, in Spotify, Youtube And other platforms Raising hell1999 ( talk) 15:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn't we only include one cover, per Template:Infobox album#Template:Extra album cover? The template states: "[p]er WP:NFCC#3 use of non-free content is to be minimal, and not to be used if one item can convey equivalent significant information. An alternative cover that is significantly different from the original and is widely distributed and/or replaces the original has generally been held to pass this criterion. Also, an alternative cover that is the subject of specific (sourced) critical commentary passes the criteria for inclusion. Covers that are essentially similar, despite differences in colouring, poses, text, etc, should not be included. The only significant difference between the standard and deluxe is the text and pose, etc. Surely, one of the images is in violation of WP:NFCC#3. livelikemusic talk! 12:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
I just found this online, and I'm not sure how real it is. Plus, I'm continually seeing the "standard" artwork without "Madonna" written on it, proving that the image Shakiraeldorado uploaded was, as per before, edited (likely by the uploader). livelikemusic talk! 15:46, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
(→) I agree with Bluesatellite too. Currently it seems like the brunette cover is the one being used in most formats, rather than the blonde cover. We should stick with that one as the default and unless the blonde one has enough notability, it can be removed. — IB [ Poke ] 08:42, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
However, none of the streaming services (Apple Music, YouTube music, Spotify, Deezer) contain the version with the brunette hair. All of them contain the deluxe version with the blonde hair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KARANSUTTA ( talk • contribs) 23:57, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
In my opinion, the Deluxe cover could be added as an alternate cover as it is significantly different from the original, and is the main album artwork used on all digital platforms. Other articles for studio albums such as Folklore (Taylor Swift album) and Good Girl Gone Bad also add in alternate covers. The k nine 2 ( talk) 07:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
The YouTube upload seems to have May 2nd as I Rise's release date, but I definitely remember it being released at 00:00 on May 3rd. The release was at midnight across the globe. Maybe the YouTube video date differs because it was uploaded on the 2nd but not made public until the 3rd, or due to time zone differences. It was definitely released on iTunes on May 3rd. Also, how do we know for definite whether I Rise is actually an "official" single, and not just a pre-released album track? Samrp45 ( talk) 23:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Few days ago someone changed “Beautiful Game” into “Dark Ballet” – it was confirmed that those songs are the same? infsai ( dyskusja) 14:59, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Madame X (album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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help)I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Madame X is the new #01 in Portuguese Official Album Charts
https://blitz.pt/principal/update/2019-06-25-Madonna-entra-para-a-lideranca-do-Top-Nacional?fbclid=IwAR0GabS_kWV__UBbNdzf-Y1uPl5vVGhax4Xp_PpOpQL1wb2wTolX9Uobips — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuno gouv ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Madame X (album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Why is “I Rise” now included on this page as a single when I was turned down when I tried to add this song after it was released. In fact, “I Rise” was released prior to “Crave.” And if you include the PROMO single on the album, why isn’t “Future” and “Dark Ballet” also included as singles on the page? I thought promo singles were not shown on the album page in the chronological listing of songs released from the album? Slater619 ( talk) 14:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Official sources (Madonna.com, Interscope, Universal), official radio adds, and/or physical single release are the indicators of "single" release IMO. See also WP:PROMOSINGLE Bluesatellite ( talk) 03:01, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
I am pinging @ MadonnaFan: since they undid this edit on the "I Rise" page. I do not believe "I Rise" has been confirmed as a single since I would like to see their opinion on it. Aoba47 ( talk) 01:02, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
When it was announced to be a single??? Johnny Gnecco ( talk) 23:57, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
-- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 23:16, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
I’ve been thinking about this for a while and it’s made me wonder if it is actually considered a single from Madame X? The song is featured on the album but just a different version. I believe it should be added as a single from Madame X as the remix of “What It Feels Like For A Girl” was released as a single off of Music even though that mix wasn’t featured on the album. 2A02:C7E:2902:FD00:1DBD:E84A:B808:FB0D ( talk) 21:24, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Madame X (album) is currently an Albums good article nominee. Nominated by Alex reach me! and Christian ( talk) at 07:14, 31 July 2023 (UTC) Anyone who has not contributed significantly to (or nominated) this article may review it according to the good article criteria to decide whether or not to list it as a good article. To start the review process, click start review and save the page. (See here for the good article instructions.)
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Should this be considered to add on to the Madame X (album) page as Alternative Artwork/Standard Edition Artwork? https://www.drownedmadonna.com/2019/04/17/madonnas-madame-x-standard-edition-cover/ Rblxhrt ( talk) 00:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Yes, the deluxe edition cover is most widely recognized as the cover of the album, in Spotify, Youtube And other platforms Raising hell1999 ( talk) 15:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn't we only include one cover, per Template:Infobox album#Template:Extra album cover? The template states: "[p]er WP:NFCC#3 use of non-free content is to be minimal, and not to be used if one item can convey equivalent significant information. An alternative cover that is significantly different from the original and is widely distributed and/or replaces the original has generally been held to pass this criterion. Also, an alternative cover that is the subject of specific (sourced) critical commentary passes the criteria for inclusion. Covers that are essentially similar, despite differences in colouring, poses, text, etc, should not be included. The only significant difference between the standard and deluxe is the text and pose, etc. Surely, one of the images is in violation of WP:NFCC#3. livelikemusic talk! 12:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
I just found this online, and I'm not sure how real it is. Plus, I'm continually seeing the "standard" artwork without "Madonna" written on it, proving that the image Shakiraeldorado uploaded was, as per before, edited (likely by the uploader). livelikemusic talk! 15:46, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
(→) I agree with Bluesatellite too. Currently it seems like the brunette cover is the one being used in most formats, rather than the blonde cover. We should stick with that one as the default and unless the blonde one has enough notability, it can be removed. — IB [ Poke ] 08:42, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
However, none of the streaming services (Apple Music, YouTube music, Spotify, Deezer) contain the version with the brunette hair. All of them contain the deluxe version with the blonde hair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KARANSUTTA ( talk • contribs) 23:57, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
In my opinion, the Deluxe cover could be added as an alternate cover as it is significantly different from the original, and is the main album artwork used on all digital platforms. Other articles for studio albums such as Folklore (Taylor Swift album) and Good Girl Gone Bad also add in alternate covers. The k nine 2 ( talk) 07:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
The YouTube upload seems to have May 2nd as I Rise's release date, but I definitely remember it being released at 00:00 on May 3rd. The release was at midnight across the globe. Maybe the YouTube video date differs because it was uploaded on the 2nd but not made public until the 3rd, or due to time zone differences. It was definitely released on iTunes on May 3rd. Also, how do we know for definite whether I Rise is actually an "official" single, and not just a pre-released album track? Samrp45 ( talk) 23:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Few days ago someone changed “Beautiful Game” into “Dark Ballet” – it was confirmed that those songs are the same? infsai ( dyskusja) 14:59, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Madame X (album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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help)I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Madame X is the new #01 in Portuguese Official Album Charts
https://blitz.pt/principal/update/2019-06-25-Madonna-entra-para-a-lideranca-do-Top-Nacional?fbclid=IwAR0GabS_kWV__UBbNdzf-Y1uPl5vVGhax4Xp_PpOpQL1wb2wTolX9Uobips — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuno gouv ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Madame X (album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "rollingstone":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Why is “I Rise” now included on this page as a single when I was turned down when I tried to add this song after it was released. In fact, “I Rise” was released prior to “Crave.” And if you include the PROMO single on the album, why isn’t “Future” and “Dark Ballet” also included as singles on the page? I thought promo singles were not shown on the album page in the chronological listing of songs released from the album? Slater619 ( talk) 14:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Official sources (Madonna.com, Interscope, Universal), official radio adds, and/or physical single release are the indicators of "single" release IMO. See also WP:PROMOSINGLE Bluesatellite ( talk) 03:01, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
I am pinging @ MadonnaFan: since they undid this edit on the "I Rise" page. I do not believe "I Rise" has been confirmed as a single since I would like to see their opinion on it. Aoba47 ( talk) 01:02, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
When it was announced to be a single??? Johnny Gnecco ( talk) 23:57, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
-- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 23:16, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
I’ve been thinking about this for a while and it’s made me wonder if it is actually considered a single from Madame X? The song is featured on the album but just a different version. I believe it should be added as a single from Madame X as the remix of “What It Feels Like For A Girl” was released as a single off of Music even though that mix wasn’t featured on the album. 2A02:C7E:2902:FD00:1DBD:E84A:B808:FB0D ( talk) 21:24, 30 December 2022 (UTC)