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True, but does say school now Weymouth Arts Centre. Will research more. Remove if you wish. Bashereyre ( talk) 07:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi PamD, I am new comer on English Wikipedia. Thanks for pointing out important things which I was not aware. I will retify the things today itself. Kindly let me know if I have done those correctly. Coolgama ( talk) 08:46, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I got your message on that article, sorry I must have made a mistake when I added that category that was not appropriate (I had a feeling about that). I was in a rush at the time and I really forgot that I changed that article, I got the information form the country I was born in which is Sri Lanka, I knew what these creatures were and I had a several of them as pets! I will try my hardest to cite my sources and add more info, feel free to delete, change or even tag the page for deletion, whatever's fine for you. Regards PBASH607 (The One Day Apocalypse) ( talk) 22:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hello, can you please not redirect my Himalayan (guinea pig) article, because I would like to know about them. Lusa bear ( talk) 17:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
You posted to User talk:Max Borin. He was another Paul Bedson sock. Dougweller ( talk) 15:22, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey PamD; Kaldari has finished scripting a set of potential replacements available to test and give feedback on. Please go to this thread for more detail on how to enable them. Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 15:30, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Pam, Thanks for your help in creating We Who Are Young. No reply is needed. David Spector ( talk) 22:34, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Pam: I tried to neaten up the above entry as per your 11 Feb notability and citations banners; I've posted a query in the Talk section, but wanted to leave removal of the banner up to you. I did what I could about citations. Best, Zoidbergmd ( talk) 23:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC) PS. And I think it's amazing you've made more than 65,000 Wikipedia contributions. As a frequent Wiki user, I'd like to tip my hat and say 'Thank you.' Zoidbergmd ( talk) 00:15, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect We who are young (movie). Since you had some involvement with the We who are young (movie) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Revolution1221 ( talk · email · contributions) 00:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Pam, apologies for the stub link on a disambiguation, I saw the photo on the page and didn't notice it was a disambiguation. Mpdehnel ( talk) 16:03, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Dea db eef 07:51, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
I am sorry. I did not notice the stub template on that page. I will take the layout into consideration before editing an article.
Thanks Ramakrishnan.nikhil ( talk) 15:38, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hi! I got 1555 from p. 153 of Mary Queen of Scots which says "It appeared at Lyons in 1555." - Maybe 1553 was really the date? Maybe it's a source conflict? WhisperToMe ( talk) 08:10, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
This is my first attempt at creating a disambiguation page; could you check that it's formatted correctly?-- Laun chba ller 22:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Your endorsement of a PROD at Thousand words picture has been removed. - Sitush ( talk) 08:55, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
You tagged Crater, Mendocino County, California for speedy deletion as a hoax. I checked the GNIS at http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/ and was able to confirm that the place exists. I was not able to confirm the former name (which may well have been a hoax), so I removed that claim from the article. If I am editing an article about a settlement in the United States, I will generally try to add a reference to GNIS if the article does not already have one. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 14:07, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
I removed that picture because it was a copyright infringement. Please do not re-add the photo. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harrybeckett ( talk • contribs) 17:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello PamD: Regarding the California Labor School article, I see that user Msulaiman91 (who is a student in my class and doing this for a class assignment) overstepped by replacing the existing content. I've contacted her and urged a more careful approach. Thanks! Toby Higbie ( talk) 22:44, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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It's funny, I was thinking about dropping you a talk page message as well. I had noticed from Category talk:Stubs that you've been particularly active in stub-sorting recently. It was up around ~720 when I started whittling at it in my spare time a couple of days ago.
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Thanks for fixing up the Skeeby article even more! References look much sweeter! Cacolantern 19:08, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hey, nice template that you used to welcome a new contributor, lots of good stuff in there. What's the code for it? I couldn't tell from the page and I'd like to use it! The Ukulele Guy - Aggie80 ( talk) 13:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for 'clarifying' the stub...this had been brought up on irc, so I did some 'quick' fixes, but I wasn't really sure if it deserved to be under 'physics' so I left it generic for a more specialized editor to fix....again, thanks. Revent ( talk) 23:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
It looks as if your EW charity template has broken - think Char Commission has done another redesign. Would you be able to fix this? Scottish one still works. -- Mervyn ( talk) 14:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
I am trying to understand why you feel that this page is not about a musical or why this is not valid for speedy deletion? It is a musical prayer "song" i.e. a bhajan in hindi. There a multiple mp3 versions available on internet of this bhajan and this is not notable as there are a multitude of indian folk songs and bhajans that are played on loud speakers in any temple and sometimes even adopted in movies and would encourage entry into wikipedia. I dont think they pass the notability test. But want to understand your thoughts too. (Search "mari amma mari amma" in google - a tamil prayer for goddess durga which i have heard many times in temple loud speakers on streets, this is the kind of notability this bhajan has.)Thanks. Amit ► 00:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks, Oliver, that's kind. I'm glad to be able to spot and report a few glitches and help in the development of what should, eventually, be an easier way to edit the encyclopedia! Pam D 15:11, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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In the section Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback#User:ClemRutter/sandbox3- eventually a new article Piece-rate lists I discussed references, having taken an article through from conception to launch. (I am currently being ignored for ask the wrong question- forcefully). References appear to have been an afterthought, and no serious analysis has ever been done on the process of editing.
In my field writing an article is 40% writing the text- and 60% adding references and other templates. {{ sfn}} and {{ efn}}s are the way that we all use. The newbies I help are mostly concerned with how to reference. No matter. There isn't a written functional specification to test against, or even standard testing schedule. The programming paradigm appears to be- get in some cool graphical interface and then write some code to make it work- hence this phase of bug-hunting.
It should never have been allowed to get to this stage- but as it has it could be made to work were it to allow wikiformat to be entered into the text, and then before the text is saved, the existing wikitext parser should be employed to render that into plain text. That plaintext should then be passed back to the VE save mechanism for saving. But as I am currently being ignored I pass it on to you, so you can reintroduce it into the discussion when you feel the time is right.
I fear the programming and PR-teams are going to feel terribly bruised when they loose this into the wild tomorrow. Regards -- Clem Rutter ( talk) 21:44, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks, Maggie. It's good to feel useful, and I've always believed that there's no point in whinging about things without reporting the problems appropriately to the people who need to know! Good luck with it all: VE is a massive project, used by thousands of editors of wildly varying expectations and backgrounds, and it'll be a long time before the dust settles. Glad to be able to help. Pam D 14:41, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
hey i want u to make put some information on early vedic civilization and later vedic civilization so please put some information about that please sir — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.237.122.128 ( talk • contribs)
Hi, I am Ulf Larsen, Norwegian, and I mostly contribute to the Norwegian Bokmål/Riksmål version of Wikipedia. I do however once in a while also translate articles from Norwegian into English, usually when I think no-one else will do it. I have done so with two articles recently, Operation Claw and Kai Holst, and I look for a native English speaker that could help me in proof-reading them. If your list of tasks here is full I hope you will excuse me for interrupting you. :-) Best regards, Ulflarsen ( talk) 13:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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Awww! Thryduulf beat me to it. You've been doing excellent work on this, and I do hope that your thoughtful words are given the serious consideration they are due. I think there are an awful lot of us who really want this to work, and it's almost heartbreaking to see it being pushed out to more and more editors when it's not ready yet. Risker ( talk) 05:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't know what is primary in this situation, but we'll try it your way and see if anyone else comments. Thanks for your help. Davidhof ( talk) 14:10, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I'm sure you've been asked this plenty of times, but have you given any thought to becoming an administrator? You'd certainly be great in the role based on your edits, and I'd gladly nominate you. Wizardman 21:44, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
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I will try to look at this tomorrow. Have you actually edited a template ? The "TemplateData" item appears in the left menu only when editing a template (not when just reading). -- NicoV ( Talk on frwiki) 23:18, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
<templatedata />
in the wikitext, and then click on the "TemplateData" link (no need to save the wikitext or preview it before, or you'll get the JSON error). Once you have finished creating the TD with the TD editor, the wikitext will be updated and you can then save the modifications.Hey PamD. The newest updates:
Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 22:07, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages ( T54012), scrolling ( T54014) and deleting ( T54013) on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are <ref>s defined inside a <references> block ( T53741). Users of Opera 12 and higher have had their web browser removed from the browser black-list, mostly as a result of work by a volunteer developer ( T38000). Opera has not been fully white-listed yet, so these users will get an additional warning and request to report problems.
Significant changes were made to the user interface to de-emphasize VisualEditor. This has cut the use of VisualEditor by approximately one-third. You can read about these at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/August 1, 2013, but they include:
There have also been many smaller fixes, including these:
Most of the Wikimedia Foundation staff is traveling this week and next, so no updates are expected until at least August 15th. If you're going to be in Hong Kong for Wikimania 2013, say hello to James Forrester, Philippe Beaudette, and the other members of the VisualEditor team.
As always, if you have questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 23:16, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
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Please go through This article. Jose Arukatty 14:36, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post- Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.
References are displaying properly, even when nested ( T52749) or in image captions ( T2000. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references ( bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph ( T54159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added ( bug 50385).
Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems ( T53462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted ( bug 51150).
Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) ( T35094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).
A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector ( T54441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab ↹ and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ key commands ( bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox ( bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly ( bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed ( T54113).
Images, in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty |link=
parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts (
bug 51995). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style (
bug 51851).
More edit notices, warnings, and metadata like information about Pending Changes on an article now appear as appropriate ( bug 49699). When new articles are created, users are now shown the <newarticletext> message ( bug 51459). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better ( bug 51322). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure ( bug 51636).
When you save the page, having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog ( bug 51515). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it ( bug 50872). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed ( bug 50058). Also, wikipage content handlers like sortable tables are re-run automatically after saving ( T53565).
A very early version of the mathematics equation editor is now available for testing on mw:Mediawiki. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the Math Node User Interface at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:31, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.
Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page ( bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.
A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed ( 48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".
In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>
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bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in
bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (
bug 53507).
Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).
If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:36, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Sry for no edit summary on WSOH. I meant to recommend redirection to 5FDP. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 21:31, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I saw an edit of yours that was tagged with "mobile". As 99.9% of the mobile edits I come across are vandalism edits, I've come to the conclusion that you are now a vandal. Today, I was called a Nazi loving Wiki cop who was beaten by their parents. I'll start acting the part. I've got my eye on you Pam. I'll look at every edit of yours and undo it for vandalism. :) Bgwhite ( talk) 06:00, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.
As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u>
(underline), <sub>
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(superscript), <s>
(strikethrough) and <code>
(computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at
Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.
In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references ( bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label ( bug 51670).
In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted ( bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.
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I want to revert your change. Reasons: "links from dab page should not be piped": There are several examples of the same page which do use pipes. Using "Inclusive Or" is more fitting to the context (the article is named "Or") and more people will understand it ("Inclusive or": 1.48 Million Google Hits. "logical disjunction": 0.03 Million Google Hits). "Logical disjunction" is just one of many applications of the concept of Inclusive Or (which subsumes the set operation, the boolean logic operation, etc.) and is just a technical expression for it. I will remove the "depicted as |, ∨, or simply or" part. Because it implies being exhaustive, while there are several other ways to write it (+, ||, max(), etc.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RicardAnufriev ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
As one of a highly select international group, you are hereby invited to join me in celebrating my 666! (Let the games begin!) Pdfpdf ( talk) 11:17, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
You reverted my change: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=And/or&oldid=575065142&diff=prev saying: "revert removal of sourced information - no requirement for a ref to be available online, and the publication certainly exists; upgrade"
Could you provide evidence about the existence of exactly this article? It is adressed to /info/en/?search=Bryan_A._Garner And his article lists very many articles he wrote (including articles in the Student Lawyer). Because of it's length (and because it is not stated otherwise) I assume it is a complete list. But nowhere is the article "Looking for words to kill? Start with these." mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RicardAnufriev ( talk • contribs) .
Hey Pam can you help me with this page so it can be better Hunter Darkwolf ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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re kraftei being the nickname of the Messerschmitt Me 163, if you go to the German wikipedia and enter kraftei into the search box. Its also there in the first line of the German wikipedia article.-- KTo288 ( talk) 05:55, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for you work stub sorting, it doesn't go unnoticed.
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Greetings PamD. Thank you for your note. It does you credit :) Brusqueness, or at least appearing to be brusque, is indeed an undesirable result of keyboard-to-screen communication, and something of which I am all too often "guilty" myself... The response on my talk page was not aimed at you personally – it just me having a bit o' fun while having me cuppa. Regards, -- Technopat ( talk) 14:22, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected ( bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances ( bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances ( bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories ( bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias ( bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes ( bug 54712).
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Thanks for you work stub sorting, it doesn't go unnoticed.
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Chapo is mentioned briefly in the other link. I think you just may have missed it. :) The word chapo is in italics. It just says it a banana and sugar mixture or some such. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 15:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013
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Sorry - but I just couldn't see/didn't notice the date and place of Birth in the OXDNB entry.. Prof.Haddock ( talk) 21:54, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
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Yes, sorry, that's correct. And I meant, I'm not sure Newcastle upon Tyne should be listed at the top solely. Similarly to Britain, both cities could be listed. Rob ( talk) 16:38, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some feature changes, major infrastructure improvements to make the system more stable, dependable and extensible, some minor toolbar improvements, and fixing bugs.
A new form parsing library for language characters in Parsoid caused the corruption of pages containing diacritics for about an hour two weeks ago. Relatively few pages at the English Wikipedia were affected, but this created immediate problems at some other Wikipedias, sometimes affecting several dozen pages. The development teams for Parsoid and VisualEditor apologize for the serious disruption and thank the people who reported this emergency at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and on the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor.
There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:
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I've declined your speedy as it does appear to exist. I've added a link to a Daily Mail article. Whether or not it is notable is another question... Peridon ( talk) 12:42, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
(re Krupnik (soup) - PamD's note)
Why you report this articule to delete ? its seriously so hard to write in google word - krupnik - and check that this is good ? plase do this and expand articule and withdarw from delete ........... BoguszeQ ( talk) 12:49, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
so check up articule - Poland - and ckeck list of Polsih food there , you see that somebody , not me , add this soup to list .... i just expand it , dear pam , in situation when someobdy add something to wiki and is not delete for longest time it seems that this is right , i just expand it with more information , this is reason to report to delete ? like i write you are so ignorant to ckeck something on net ? claiming at the moment making a fundamental mistake lack of knowledge and experience and wisdom in the handling here . second thing is this that i please you to do this .............
- http://www.tastingpoland.com/food/polish_food_soups.html
- http://www.bestpolishrecipes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100&Itemid=228
- http://www.coffeeandvanilla.com/krupnik-pearl-barley-soup/
Why did u direct the page back to main? where is belong to album page? https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Get_Away_(Rottfyful_Sky)&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shujuan5210 ( talk • contribs) 05:54, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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My mistake! The infobox in the article was taken from an article on the siege of Kaifeng. I changed most of the parameters, but forgot the one on Location. Thank you for sorting the stub.-- Khanate General ☪ talk project mongol conquests 09:40, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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hello there, i'm from Malaysia and i'm contributing some of the articles. but still cant upload or put a picture to the articles, so can you please teach me how? i'm not going to vandalism any of the articles as you can check for my history. most of my editing recently are on Malaysian related articles but i wanna start editing in English. Meeneunos10 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
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PamD,
Thank you for your politeness in this matter and for allowing it to be up long enough on christmas morning. My apologies for any disruption it may have caused.
While not a citable source I have relied on and used Wikipedia in my academic and professional career and have nothing but respect for the men and women that work to ensure it is filled with reliable and relevant information.
I understand that this site is not a message board, and am sorry that my actions implied disrespect and abuse of the web site.
The allowance of the post for a few hours helped bring joy to my little sister on christmas, something she was dearly in need of, and for that I am even more indebted to the site and those who contribute to and moderate it.
Again, I apologize for any disruption I might have caused and would like to wish a merry Christmas and a happy holidays to all my fellow users of the site and the contributors that help share the information we dearly desire.
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You said you had a personal interest this so perhaps you can help out at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sutton High Street. Its DYK could use some help too. I am sympathetic but don't know the area well myself and prefer to stay north of the river :). Andrew ( talk) 14:07, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
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Mistake,Sorry Op47 ( talk) 00:11, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
When you deleted the mention of Jim Roberts in Nepal as the originator of using this term in English, I am wondering if you share my dislike for this sort of naming and potential peacock-ism/promotion of persons in text (rather than in footnotes and references)? I've never liked it when contributors do this, but is there actually a policy against it? You not only have considerable WP editing experience, you were also a professional librarian in real life, so I can't think of a better Wikipedian to ask. LADave ( talk) 19:43, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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The reason why I removed route 938 from the 900–999 section of List of bus routes in London is because route 938 is not a bus route contracted by TFL and it's already been mentioned in Other routes within the London area section of the List of bus routes in London because route 938 is a route operated with a London Service Permit issued by Transport for London. CourtneyBonnick ( talk) 22:26, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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I added sources to the Tentamun page, will that save it from deletion? I did not know disamb pages need sources, as the articles linked from the disamb page are already referenced. – Alensha talk 19:25, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
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I've prodded it. Worlds, fictional or real, don't come under A7. If the article had been about her website, A7 would have worked. It's just one of those things... Peridon ( talk) 10:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Pam. This is just a polite reminder that it's usual to notify the creator of an article when recommending it for deletion. In fact, I'm in the process of expanding it and will probably merge top ancestor (an unlikely and rather unprofessional term probably loosely translated from German) into it, which can then be deleted instead. Cheers. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 18:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, thank you for your comments about this template. It is my own design, located in User:Piotrus/AT. I am totally open to redesigning it to be more newbie-friendly (or everyone-friendly). Nobody is required to add those templates, but they are helpful (just like categories, infoboxes or such). As I work with a lot of wikiproject tools that rely on them (from article alerts to copyediting listings) I like to encourage people to add them. I'd certainly appreciate suggestions on how to make this template better. Each week I spend 1-2 hours if not more reviewing the new articles at User:AlexNewArtBot/PolandSearchResult, and most of my reminders come from articles I see there; indeed many are from relatively new editors (although few are from some who should know better :>). I also use other templates, all listed at User:Piotrus/Templates. Cheers, PS. If you reply here please WP:ECHO me. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:28, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Looking at the article, I am feeling inclined to close the nomination. It cite reliable sources and has been greatly improved. I'll admit I might have nominated it too soon, given I usually will nominate a one-line article since it provides little information worth keeping and at times never gets improved by the user posting the article. NintendoFan ( Talk, Contribs) 06:30, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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I have bitten the bullet- bought the book- and started to address the mill articles on the east side of the Pennines, with List of mills in Huddersfield and a plethora of friends. The referenced lists are obviously from Giles, Colum; Goodall, Ian H (1992). Yorkshire Textile Mills 1790- 1930. London: Royal Commission on Historical Monuments of England HMSO. ISBN 0-11-300038-3 While Googling to discover what an Ing Mill did- I came across this fascinating Catalan site, presented in English: Yorkshire Industrial Heritage
The National Monument Record is a legacy numbering system maintained by English Heritage which was used in Giles and Goodall, and also in Williams and Farnie (Cotton mills of Greater Manchester). This site also these numbers- by passing it as a search parameter in the url.
For instance, further details on each mill may be obtained by adding the number after b= in this url. http://yorkshire.u08.eu/?b=62373. So I have the intriguing possibility of wikilinking NMR# to a exterior page describing the mill. So at this point, I thought that Eric would have the knowledge to answer a couple of questions. Got my timing wrong there- hence this post here.
in {{TMtr|Bankfield Mills|Almondbury (Huddersfield), |SE 1569 1625 {{Coord|53.64251|-1.76415|display=inline|format=dms|name=Bankfield Mills}}{{sfn|Giles|Goodall|1992|p=225}}|(B)|National Monument Record: BF63126 |<!--Image-->||<!-- Built-->|| }}
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News for February from your Wikipedia Library.
Donations drive: news on TWL's partnership efforts with publishers
Open Access: Feature from Ocaasi on the intersection of the library and the open access movement
American Library Association Midwinter Conference: TWL attended this year in Philadelphia
Royal Society Opens Access To Journals: The UK's venerable Royal Society will give the public (and Wikipedians) full access to two of their journal titles for two days on March 4th and 5th
Going Global: TWL starts work on pilot projects in other language Wikipedias
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Thank you for adding that info to Paño. I can't believe that I forgot to say what kind of artwork it was WhisperToMe ( talk) 09:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for your work on the C;are Gerada page especially the spelling mistakes! YellowFratello ( talk) 08:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC) |
Dear PamD,
I wanted to thank you for inspiring me to adopt the greeting you posted at the top of your user page. For some time, I had been looking for a suitable greeting to add to mine but it was only when I saw yours, earlier today, that I knew I'd found the right format.
I suppose I am also owning up to re-cycling a piece of your intellectual property and adapting it for my own needs, but I hope I will be forgiven.
I also noticed that we have similar editorial habits, although you are years ahead of me; nonetheless, I'll look up to you as a role model.
Thanks once again, dear PamD, and please keep well and joyful.
With kind regards;
Patrick.
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outlying walks
Thank you, womenkind editor who fells for the "fascination of an infinite jigsaw puzzle", for quality articles such as
South West Coast Path and
Leeds Country Way, in team and solo effort, for gnomish care of biographies in page moves and corrections, for
'please stay', - repeating: you are an
awesome Wikipedian (26 August 2010)!
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I don't think that we can put all NHS trusts in England into subcategories any more. Too many don't fit, and are not stable configurations. For example many teaching hospitals and DGHs also run community services. So do many Mental health trusts. But generally the community services are subject to a periodic tendering programme.
The only really clearly defined categories are foundation trusts and non-foundation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rathfelder ( talk • contribs) 10:53, 24 November 2013
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True, but does say school now Weymouth Arts Centre. Will research more. Remove if you wish. Bashereyre ( talk) 07:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi PamD, I am new comer on English Wikipedia. Thanks for pointing out important things which I was not aware. I will retify the things today itself. Kindly let me know if I have done those correctly. Coolgama ( talk) 08:46, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I got your message on that article, sorry I must have made a mistake when I added that category that was not appropriate (I had a feeling about that). I was in a rush at the time and I really forgot that I changed that article, I got the information form the country I was born in which is Sri Lanka, I knew what these creatures were and I had a several of them as pets! I will try my hardest to cite my sources and add more info, feel free to delete, change or even tag the page for deletion, whatever's fine for you. Regards PBASH607 (The One Day Apocalypse) ( talk) 22:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hello, can you please not redirect my Himalayan (guinea pig) article, because I would like to know about them. Lusa bear ( talk) 17:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
You posted to User talk:Max Borin. He was another Paul Bedson sock. Dougweller ( talk) 15:22, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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Pam, Thanks for your help in creating We Who Are Young. No reply is needed. David Spector ( talk) 22:34, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Pam: I tried to neaten up the above entry as per your 11 Feb notability and citations banners; I've posted a query in the Talk section, but wanted to leave removal of the banner up to you. I did what I could about citations. Best, Zoidbergmd ( talk) 23:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC) PS. And I think it's amazing you've made more than 65,000 Wikipedia contributions. As a frequent Wiki user, I'd like to tip my hat and say 'Thank you.' Zoidbergmd ( talk) 00:15, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect We who are young (movie). Since you had some involvement with the We who are young (movie) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Revolution1221 ( talk · email · contributions) 00:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Pam, apologies for the stub link on a disambiguation, I saw the photo on the page and didn't notice it was a disambiguation. Mpdehnel ( talk) 16:03, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Dea db eef 07:51, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
I am sorry. I did not notice the stub template on that page. I will take the layout into consideration before editing an article.
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Hi! I got 1555 from p. 153 of Mary Queen of Scots which says "It appeared at Lyons in 1555." - Maybe 1553 was really the date? Maybe it's a source conflict? WhisperToMe ( talk) 08:10, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
This is my first attempt at creating a disambiguation page; could you check that it's formatted correctly?-- Laun chba ller 22:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Your endorsement of a PROD at Thousand words picture has been removed. - Sitush ( talk) 08:55, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
You tagged Crater, Mendocino County, California for speedy deletion as a hoax. I checked the GNIS at http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/ and was able to confirm that the place exists. I was not able to confirm the former name (which may well have been a hoax), so I removed that claim from the article. If I am editing an article about a settlement in the United States, I will generally try to add a reference to GNIS if the article does not already have one. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 14:07, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
I removed that picture because it was a copyright infringement. Please do not re-add the photo. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harrybeckett ( talk • contribs) 17:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello PamD: Regarding the California Labor School article, I see that user Msulaiman91 (who is a student in my class and doing this for a class assignment) overstepped by replacing the existing content. I've contacted her and urged a more careful approach. Thanks! Toby Higbie ( talk) 22:44, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing up the Skeeby article even more! References look much sweeter! Cacolantern 19:08, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hey, nice template that you used to welcome a new contributor, lots of good stuff in there. What's the code for it? I couldn't tell from the page and I'd like to use it! The Ukulele Guy - Aggie80 ( talk) 13:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for 'clarifying' the stub...this had been brought up on irc, so I did some 'quick' fixes, but I wasn't really sure if it deserved to be under 'physics' so I left it generic for a more specialized editor to fix....again, thanks. Revent ( talk) 23:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
It looks as if your EW charity template has broken - think Char Commission has done another redesign. Would you be able to fix this? Scottish one still works. -- Mervyn ( talk) 14:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
I am trying to understand why you feel that this page is not about a musical or why this is not valid for speedy deletion? It is a musical prayer "song" i.e. a bhajan in hindi. There a multiple mp3 versions available on internet of this bhajan and this is not notable as there are a multitude of indian folk songs and bhajans that are played on loud speakers in any temple and sometimes even adopted in movies and would encourage entry into wikipedia. I dont think they pass the notability test. But want to understand your thoughts too. (Search "mari amma mari amma" in google - a tamil prayer for goddess durga which i have heard many times in temple loud speakers on streets, this is the kind of notability this bhajan has.)Thanks. Amit ► 00:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks, Oliver, that's kind. I'm glad to be able to spot and report a few glitches and help in the development of what should, eventually, be an easier way to edit the encyclopedia! Pam D 15:11, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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In the section Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback#User:ClemRutter/sandbox3- eventually a new article Piece-rate lists I discussed references, having taken an article through from conception to launch. (I am currently being ignored for ask the wrong question- forcefully). References appear to have been an afterthought, and no serious analysis has ever been done on the process of editing.
In my field writing an article is 40% writing the text- and 60% adding references and other templates. {{ sfn}} and {{ efn}}s are the way that we all use. The newbies I help are mostly concerned with how to reference. No matter. There isn't a written functional specification to test against, or even standard testing schedule. The programming paradigm appears to be- get in some cool graphical interface and then write some code to make it work- hence this phase of bug-hunting.
It should never have been allowed to get to this stage- but as it has it could be made to work were it to allow wikiformat to be entered into the text, and then before the text is saved, the existing wikitext parser should be employed to render that into plain text. That plaintext should then be passed back to the VE save mechanism for saving. But as I am currently being ignored I pass it on to you, so you can reintroduce it into the discussion when you feel the time is right.
I fear the programming and PR-teams are going to feel terribly bruised when they loose this into the wild tomorrow. Regards -- Clem Rutter ( talk) 21:44, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks, Maggie. It's good to feel useful, and I've always believed that there's no point in whinging about things without reporting the problems appropriately to the people who need to know! Good luck with it all: VE is a massive project, used by thousands of editors of wildly varying expectations and backgrounds, and it'll be a long time before the dust settles. Glad to be able to help. Pam D 14:41, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
hey i want u to make put some information on early vedic civilization and later vedic civilization so please put some information about that please sir — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.237.122.128 ( talk • contribs)
Hi, I am Ulf Larsen, Norwegian, and I mostly contribute to the Norwegian Bokmål/Riksmål version of Wikipedia. I do however once in a while also translate articles from Norwegian into English, usually when I think no-one else will do it. I have done so with two articles recently, Operation Claw and Kai Holst, and I look for a native English speaker that could help me in proof-reading them. If your list of tasks here is full I hope you will excuse me for interrupting you. :-) Best regards, Ulflarsen ( talk) 13:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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For all your hard work testing the Visual Editor and reporting the bugs you find in it, and particularly for your eloquent essay giving an overview of how things currently are, I award you this Special Barnstar. Thryduulf ( talk) 00:58, 17 July 2013 (UTC) |
Awww! Thryduulf beat me to it. You've been doing excellent work on this, and I do hope that your thoughtful words are given the serious consideration they are due. I think there are an awful lot of us who really want this to work, and it's almost heartbreaking to see it being pushed out to more and more editors when it's not ready yet. Risker ( talk) 05:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't know what is primary in this situation, but we'll try it your way and see if anyone else comments. Thanks for your help. Davidhof ( talk) 14:10, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I'm sure you've been asked this plenty of times, but have you given any thought to becoming an administrator? You'd certainly be great in the role based on your edits, and I'd gladly nominate you. Wizardman 21:44, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
I will try to look at this tomorrow. Have you actually edited a template ? The "TemplateData" item appears in the left menu only when editing a template (not when just reading). -- NicoV ( Talk on frwiki) 23:18, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
<templatedata />
in the wikitext, and then click on the "TemplateData" link (no need to save the wikitext or preview it before, or you'll get the JSON error). Once you have finished creating the TD with the TD editor, the wikitext will be updated and you can then save the modifications.Hey PamD. The newest updates:
Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 22:07, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages ( T54012), scrolling ( T54014) and deleting ( T54013) on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are <ref>s defined inside a <references> block ( T53741). Users of Opera 12 and higher have had their web browser removed from the browser black-list, mostly as a result of work by a volunteer developer ( T38000). Opera has not been fully white-listed yet, so these users will get an additional warning and request to report problems.
Significant changes were made to the user interface to de-emphasize VisualEditor. This has cut the use of VisualEditor by approximately one-third. You can read about these at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/August 1, 2013, but they include:
There have also been many smaller fixes, including these:
Most of the Wikimedia Foundation staff is traveling this week and next, so no updates are expected until at least August 15th. If you're going to be in Hong Kong for Wikimania 2013, say hello to James Forrester, Philippe Beaudette, and the other members of the VisualEditor team.
As always, if you have questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 23:16, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
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Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post- Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.
References are displaying properly, even when nested ( T52749) or in image captions ( T2000. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references ( bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph ( T54159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added ( bug 50385).
Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems ( T53462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted ( bug 51150).
Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) ( T35094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).
A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector ( T54441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab ↹ and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ key commands ( bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox ( bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly ( bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed ( T54113).
Images, in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty |link=
parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts (
bug 51995). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style (
bug 51851).
More edit notices, warnings, and metadata like information about Pending Changes on an article now appear as appropriate ( bug 49699). When new articles are created, users are now shown the <newarticletext> message ( bug 51459). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better ( bug 51322). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure ( bug 51636).
When you save the page, having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog ( bug 51515). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it ( bug 50872). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed ( bug 50058). Also, wikipage content handlers like sortable tables are re-run automatically after saving ( T53565).
A very early version of the mathematics equation editor is now available for testing on mw:Mediawiki. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the Math Node User Interface at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:31, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.
Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page ( bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.
A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed ( 48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".
In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>
) (
bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in
bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (
bug 53507).
Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).
If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:36, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Sry for no edit summary on WSOH. I meant to recommend redirection to 5FDP. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 21:31, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I saw an edit of yours that was tagged with "mobile". As 99.9% of the mobile edits I come across are vandalism edits, I've come to the conclusion that you are now a vandal. Today, I was called a Nazi loving Wiki cop who was beaten by their parents. I'll start acting the part. I've got my eye on you Pam. I'll look at every edit of yours and undo it for vandalism. :) Bgwhite ( talk) 06:00, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.
As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u>
(underline), <sub>
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(superscript), <s>
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(computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at
Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.
In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references ( bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label ( bug 51670).
In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted ( bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.
Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" ( bug 50452).
Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application ( bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.
Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate ( bug 53503).
Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter ( bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again ( bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.
If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:36, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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I want to revert your change. Reasons: "links from dab page should not be piped": There are several examples of the same page which do use pipes. Using "Inclusive Or" is more fitting to the context (the article is named "Or") and more people will understand it ("Inclusive or": 1.48 Million Google Hits. "logical disjunction": 0.03 Million Google Hits). "Logical disjunction" is just one of many applications of the concept of Inclusive Or (which subsumes the set operation, the boolean logic operation, etc.) and is just a technical expression for it. I will remove the "depicted as |, ∨, or simply or" part. Because it implies being exhaustive, while there are several other ways to write it (+, ||, max(), etc.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RicardAnufriev ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
As one of a highly select international group, you are hereby invited to join me in celebrating my 666! (Let the games begin!) Pdfpdf ( talk) 11:17, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
You reverted my change: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=And/or&oldid=575065142&diff=prev saying: "revert removal of sourced information - no requirement for a ref to be available online, and the publication certainly exists; upgrade"
Could you provide evidence about the existence of exactly this article? It is adressed to /info/en/?search=Bryan_A._Garner And his article lists very many articles he wrote (including articles in the Student Lawyer). Because of it's length (and because it is not stated otherwise) I assume it is a complete list. But nowhere is the article "Looking for words to kill? Start with these." mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RicardAnufriev ( talk • contribs) .
Hey Pam can you help me with this page so it can be better Hunter Darkwolf ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Greetings PamD. Thank you for your note. It does you credit :) Brusqueness, or at least appearing to be brusque, is indeed an undesirable result of keyboard-to-screen communication, and something of which I am all too often "guilty" myself... The response on my talk page was not aimed at you personally – it just me having a bit o' fun while having me cuppa. Regards, -- Technopat ( talk) 14:22, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
VisualEditor is still being updated every Thursday. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at
Mediawiki during the previous week. If you haven't done so already, you can turn on VisualEditor by going to
your preferences and choosing the item, "
MediaWiki:Visualeditor-preference-enable
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The reference dialog for all Wikipedias, especially the way it handles citation templates, is being redesigned. Please offer suggestions and opinions at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. (Use your Wikipedia username/password to login there.) You can also drag and drop references (select the reference, then hover over the selected item until your cursor turns into the drag-and-drop tool). This also works for some templates, images, and other page elements (but not yet for text or floated items). References are now editable when they appear inside a media item's caption ( bug 50459).
There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected ( bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances ( bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances ( bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories ( bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias ( bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes ( bug 54712).
Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
My name is Kenan. I am the product manager for Wikipedia Mobile. I noticed that you recently made an edit on Mobile and I'd love to ask you some questions and get your feedback on Wikipedia on mobile. This would be a great chance to affect the way that we build our website and apps.
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KWang (WMF) ( talk • contribs) 23:43, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
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re kraftei being the nickname of the Messerschmitt Me 163, if you go to the German wikipedia and enter kraftei into the search box. Its also there in the first line of the German wikipedia article.-- KTo288 ( talk) 05:55, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for you work stub sorting, it doesn't go unnoticed.
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Manchester Gazette (website) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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re kraftei being the nickname of the Messerschmitt Me 163, if you go to the German wikipedia and enter kraftei into the search box. Its also there in the first line of the German wikipedia article.-- KTo288 ( talk) 05:55, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for you work stub sorting, it doesn't go unnoticed.
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Chapo is mentioned briefly in the other link. I think you just may have missed it. :) The word chapo is in italics. It just says it a banana and sugar mixture or some such. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 15:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013
by The Interior ( talk · contribs), Ocaasi ( talk · contribs)
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Sorry - but I just couldn't see/didn't notice the date and place of Birth in the OXDNB entry.. Prof.Haddock ( talk) 21:54, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
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Yes, sorry, that's correct. And I meant, I'm not sure Newcastle upon Tyne should be listed at the top solely. Similarly to Britain, both cities could be listed. Rob ( talk) 16:38, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
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(re Krupnik (soup) - PamD's note)
Why you report this articule to delete ? its seriously so hard to write in google word - krupnik - and check that this is good ? plase do this and expand articule and withdarw from delete ........... BoguszeQ ( talk) 12:49, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
so check up articule - Poland - and ckeck list of Polsih food there , you see that somebody , not me , add this soup to list .... i just expand it , dear pam , in situation when someobdy add something to wiki and is not delete for longest time it seems that this is right , i just expand it with more information , this is reason to report to delete ? like i write you are so ignorant to ckeck something on net ? claiming at the moment making a fundamental mistake lack of knowledge and experience and wisdom in the handling here . second thing is this that i please you to do this .............
- http://www.tastingpoland.com/food/polish_food_soups.html
- http://www.bestpolishrecipes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100&Itemid=228
- http://www.coffeeandvanilla.com/krupnik-pearl-barley-soup/
Why did u direct the page back to main? where is belong to album page? https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Get_Away_(Rottfyful_Sky)&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shujuan5210 ( talk • contribs) 05:54, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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PamD,
Thank you for your politeness in this matter and for allowing it to be up long enough on christmas morning. My apologies for any disruption it may have caused.
While not a citable source I have relied on and used Wikipedia in my academic and professional career and have nothing but respect for the men and women that work to ensure it is filled with reliable and relevant information.
I understand that this site is not a message board, and am sorry that my actions implied disrespect and abuse of the web site.
The allowance of the post for a few hours helped bring joy to my little sister on christmas, something she was dearly in need of, and for that I am even more indebted to the site and those who contribute to and moderate it.
Again, I apologize for any disruption I might have caused and would like to wish a merry Christmas and a happy holidays to all my fellow users of the site and the contributors that help share the information we dearly desire.
Sincerely, DrasnovSanhal — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrasnovSanhal ( talk • contribs) 03:22, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Pam, I got a response to your question about the schedule for T51969. The answer was "it will be a while". My interpretation from the tone of the conversation was "definitely not in the next few months, and maybe not in the few months after that, either". I'm sorry that it won't be any sooner. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 21:45, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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Many thanks for your timely rescue of Gavin Patterson. And Happy New (tax) Year. :) Andrew ( talk) 13:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC) |
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You said you had a personal interest this so perhaps you can help out at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sutton High Street. Its DYK could use some help too. I am sympathetic but don't know the area well myself and prefer to stay north of the river :). Andrew ( talk) 14:07, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
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When you deleted the mention of Jim Roberts in Nepal as the originator of using this term in English, I am wondering if you share my dislike for this sort of naming and potential peacock-ism/promotion of persons in text (rather than in footnotes and references)? I've never liked it when contributors do this, but is there actually a policy against it? You not only have considerable WP editing experience, you were also a professional librarian in real life, so I can't think of a better Wikipedian to ask. LADave ( talk) 19:43, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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The reason why I removed route 938 from the 900–999 section of List of bus routes in London is because route 938 is not a bus route contracted by TFL and it's already been mentioned in Other routes within the London area section of the List of bus routes in London because route 938 is a route operated with a London Service Permit issued by Transport for London. CourtneyBonnick ( talk) 22:26, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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I added sources to the Tentamun page, will that save it from deletion? I did not know disamb pages need sources, as the articles linked from the disamb page are already referenced. – Alensha talk 19:25, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
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I've prodded it. Worlds, fictional or real, don't come under A7. If the article had been about her website, A7 would have worked. It's just one of those things... Peridon ( talk) 10:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Pam. This is just a polite reminder that it's usual to notify the creator of an article when recommending it for deletion. In fact, I'm in the process of expanding it and will probably merge top ancestor (an unlikely and rather unprofessional term probably loosely translated from German) into it, which can then be deleted instead. Cheers. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 18:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, thank you for your comments about this template. It is my own design, located in User:Piotrus/AT. I am totally open to redesigning it to be more newbie-friendly (or everyone-friendly). Nobody is required to add those templates, but they are helpful (just like categories, infoboxes or such). As I work with a lot of wikiproject tools that rely on them (from article alerts to copyediting listings) I like to encourage people to add them. I'd certainly appreciate suggestions on how to make this template better. Each week I spend 1-2 hours if not more reviewing the new articles at User:AlexNewArtBot/PolandSearchResult, and most of my reminders come from articles I see there; indeed many are from relatively new editors (although few are from some who should know better :>). I also use other templates, all listed at User:Piotrus/Templates. Cheers, PS. If you reply here please WP:ECHO me. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:28, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Looking at the article, I am feeling inclined to close the nomination. It cite reliable sources and has been greatly improved. I'll admit I might have nominated it too soon, given I usually will nominate a one-line article since it provides little information worth keeping and at times never gets improved by the user posting the article. NintendoFan ( Talk, Contribs) 06:30, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.
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in references), it now strips out the inappropriate HTML.Looking ahead: The link tool will tell you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. The warning about wikitext will hide itself after you remove the wikitext markup in that paragraph. Support for creating and editing redirects is in the pipeline. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including default and upright sizes. The developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments, some behavioral magic words like DISPLAYTITLE, and in-line language setting (dir="rtl"
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I have bitten the bullet- bought the book- and started to address the mill articles on the east side of the Pennines, with List of mills in Huddersfield and a plethora of friends. The referenced lists are obviously from Giles, Colum; Goodall, Ian H (1992). Yorkshire Textile Mills 1790- 1930. London: Royal Commission on Historical Monuments of England HMSO. ISBN 0-11-300038-3 While Googling to discover what an Ing Mill did- I came across this fascinating Catalan site, presented in English: Yorkshire Industrial Heritage
The National Monument Record is a legacy numbering system maintained by English Heritage which was used in Giles and Goodall, and also in Williams and Farnie (Cotton mills of Greater Manchester). This site also these numbers- by passing it as a search parameter in the url.
For instance, further details on each mill may be obtained by adding the number after b= in this url. http://yorkshire.u08.eu/?b=62373. So I have the intriguing possibility of wikilinking NMR# to a exterior page describing the mill. So at this point, I thought that Eric would have the knowledge to answer a couple of questions. Got my timing wrong there- hence this post here.
in {{TMtr|Bankfield Mills|Almondbury (Huddersfield), |SE 1569 1625 {{Coord|53.64251|-1.76415|display=inline|format=dms|name=Bankfield Mills}}{{sfn|Giles|Goodall|1992|p=225}}|(B)|National Monument Record: BF63126 |<!--Image-->||<!-- Built-->|| }}
I hope you don't mind me posting this here- as I am sure you have a large number of Talk-page-stalkers who may like to help too - I don't want to use Village pump yet- it would take to long to explain where Yorkshire was and why it was notable - never mind trying Idle !-- Clem Rutter ( talk) 20:47, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
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News for February from your Wikipedia Library.
Donations drive: news on TWL's partnership efforts with publishers
Open Access: Feature from Ocaasi on the intersection of the library and the open access movement
American Library Association Midwinter Conference: TWL attended this year in Philadelphia
Royal Society Opens Access To Journals: The UK's venerable Royal Society will give the public (and Wikipedians) full access to two of their journal titles for two days on March 4th and 5th
Going Global: TWL starts work on pilot projects in other language Wikipedias
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Thank you for adding that info to Paño. I can't believe that I forgot to say what kind of artwork it was WhisperToMe ( talk) 09:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for your work on the C;are Gerada page especially the spelling mistakes! YellowFratello ( talk) 08:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC) |
Dear PamD,
I wanted to thank you for inspiring me to adopt the greeting you posted at the top of your user page. For some time, I had been looking for a suitable greeting to add to mine but it was only when I saw yours, earlier today, that I knew I'd found the right format.
I suppose I am also owning up to re-cycling a piece of your intellectual property and adapting it for my own needs, but I hope I will be forgiven.
I also noticed that we have similar editorial habits, although you are years ahead of me; nonetheless, I'll look up to you as a role model.
Thanks once again, dear PamD, and please keep well and joyful.
With kind regards;
Patrick.
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outlying walks
Thank you, womenkind editor who fells for the "fascination of an infinite jigsaw puzzle", for quality articles such as
South West Coast Path and
Leeds Country Way, in team and solo effort, for gnomish care of biographies in page moves and corrections, for
'please stay', - repeating: you are an
awesome Wikipedian (26 August 2010)!
-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:39, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.
The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing. With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.
__STATICREDIRECT__
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, and more. New keyboard shortcuts are listed there, and include undoing the last action, clearing formatting, and showing the shortcut help window. If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged.The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of |upright
size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Wikipedia, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.
Looking ahead: Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting (dir="rtl"
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I don't think that we can put all NHS trusts in England into subcategories any more. Too many don't fit, and are not stable configurations. For example many teaching hospitals and DGHs also run community services. So do many Mental health trusts. But generally the community services are subject to a periodic tendering programme.
The only really clearly defined categories are foundation trusts and non-foundation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rathfelder ( talk • contribs) 10:53, 24 November 2013