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In this edit, you moved the Gagauz link (gag:) to follow the Galego (gl:) link. I have corrected it. — Coroboy ( talk) 23:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I notice you have been deleting Altaic from some articles.
If it is debated, we should not come down on either side of the controversy, according to WP:NPOV. Judgement of correctness is not the criterion for inclusion - notability and verifiability are. -- JWB ( talk) 22:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Could you please explain why your addition of ɨ here in both IPAc-en and IPA-en is rendered differently, as an incorrect crossed-out ɪ (not on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key) in the former and a correct ɨ in the latter. Even stranger is that copy-pasting the letter from the IPAc-en rendering produces ɪ, not the crossed-out version visible in the final UI. Thanks, -- Espoo ( talk) 00:55, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Tambora language at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Crisco 1492 ( talk) 03:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I was wondering if you could include the IPA pronunciation for Koentjaraningrat. In Indonesian it is pronounced (roughly) koon-cha-“ra-ning-rat (with the r a trill). Sorry to bother you, but I'm not sure which symbols are used in English for some of the sounds, especially the trill R. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 23:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the recent edits to the Zarma language article. I do have a few questions about some of your recent edits.
1. My background in linguistics is minimal. What exactly do the "<>" symbols stand for in your edit, which reads "a following ‹n› or ‹ŋ›"? Do they indicate orthography?
2. I'm not sure the consonant table edits are correct. The article says the consonant table is a "table using Zarma orthography". It used to use standard Zarma spelling with just a few explanatory IPA symbols in brackets where needed. But now it is a mix of spelling conventions and phonetic representations with inconsistent punctuation differentiating the two. I would prefer returning it to the orthographic representations because the text and the bracketed IPA symbols fully explain how the letters are pronounced. But if you disagree, we could rewrite the table entirely in phonetic symbols. In any case, it really should be all IPA symbols or all standard spelling indicators rather than the current mixture, right? Or am I missing something?
3. Why was the labiodental nasal removed? This leaves the sentence in the text above the table somewhat orphaned and the table incomplete. -- seberle ( talk) 01:51, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again Kwami, but as I was taking a look at Wikipedia:IPA for Malay I remembered that (in Indonesian, at least) the vowels [e], [i], [o], and [u] have the allophones /ɛ/, /ɪ/, /ɔ/, and /ʊ/ respectively when in closed syllables at the end of a word (for example, [leˈle] 'catfish', but [lɛˈlɛh] 'melt'; [piˈpi] 'cheek' and [pɪˈpɪs] 'to pee (informal)'; [soˈto] ' soto' and [sɔˈtɔŋ] 'cuttlefish'; and [taˈhu] 'know' or 'tofu' and [taˈhʊn] 'year'). Would that be worth including at Wikipedia:IPA for Malay? Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 03:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
The symbol proposed for the sun in the Declination article do not render as anything meaningful in the Opera browser. Did you not read the edit history reverting the previous change? - Ac44ck ( talk) 06:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
I goofed when I attempted to revert a recent move. Feel free to move Voiceless palatal-alveolar sibilant to Voiceless palato-alveolar sibilant. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 19:23, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Kwami, in all your manipulation of Northern East Cree and Southern East Cree, you managed to lose Southern East Cree. Northern East and Southern East are distinct languages/dialects and require separate pages. -- Taivo ( talk) 08:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
On 6 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tambora language, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Tambora, a Papuan language, was once spoken in the middle of Indonesia near Bali, far to the west of Papua, until the trading state that used it was wiped out by the eruption of Mount Tambora in 1815? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Materialscientist ( talk) 16:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind giving a look to this edit request? Thanks! 68.35.40.154 ( talk) 04:45, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
You broke my user page :( 131.211.84.85 ( talk) 14:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! I've been meaning to do that for ages. (Honest!) Pdfpdf ( talk) 11:39, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami! It looks like you're breaking things with AWB. Cbrown1023 talk 20:21, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
-- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 07:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
May I ask why you used an en-dash between Khanty and Mansi in your most recent move? I just want to make sure I understand the rationale. Thanks.— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); June 10, 2011; 20:04 (UTC)
Please be careful when making such edits with AWB, as the link to the image broke because the file name uses a hyphen, not a dash. Adabow ( talk · contribs) 07:35, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, can you check the IPA for Junrey Balawing? It's certainly not standard English but is labelled as IPA for English. μηδείς ( talk) 20:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Within the past 4 days, there have been 6 edits ( example) replacing 'South China' with 'West Philippine' in the context of the sea. All purely disruptive and by changing users/IPs, so either a range-block or a semi-protect of this article, please. Thanks
PS: I have promised not to make any requests at WP:Requests for __ for the time being, and will not renege on that promise. —HXL's Roundtable and Record 06:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
I believe Ibibiogrl attempted to report you for a WP:3RR violation on the Efik language article. Best, Meph talk 23:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC).
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Kwami I Have just edited all comments I wrote on the Efik Talk Page, Am Sorry If I offended you. But Now that you can clearly read everything, you will notice that I explained initially the mistake you made, and told you that Efik and Ibibio languages were different just like French and Spanish differs. I started calling you names only after you ignored my comments and kept asking me what I thought was wrong. I thought you were treating my oppinions as jokes. Most of my oppinions were quotes from you. I also used Caps because my spacing wasn't showing up, so I used caps to explain it to you as I was tired of repeating myself. Am not usualy easily irritated escept in this case, because you refuse to consider my oppinions at first. This case is personal to me, I doubt that you will ignored it if somebody made a joke of your language. Ibibiogrl ( talk) 23:50, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
So if it was once called "Ibibio-Efik"(which I have been saying that wikipedia created that name) why should you change it back to that name? I have been telling you That It does not Exist because it implies that the language is mixed with Ibibio & Efik. Such Language doesn't exist.
You still don't understand. Please read WP:TRUTH. Please read anything about Wikipedia so you understand how things work here. You've been here three years; you should know this stuff by now. Also, please read the sourced answers I've given to your objections. "I didn't hear that" is not a valid argument. — kwami ( talk) 21:52, 16 June 2011 (UTC) Kwami can you please help me delete all the comments made by me and even yours including my name. Because as I had stated a few days Ago, I DO NOT WANT ANY ASSOCIATION WITH wikipedia. I don't want my name or any links conecting to me to be on wikipedia. THANKS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.250.191.192 ( talk) 21:50, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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Your advice on this would be good. Tony (talk) 09:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
See my talk page for a response. Cheers, m.o.p 22:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
About the map, I find that it is just a way to give you an idea, like holding just one province. The outskirts of Sabha are not held by rebels, but just to show there is a resistance. Message me back so I know you understand at my talk page. Spesh531, My talk, and External links 13:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
In light of your remark on Talk:Alphabets of Asia Minor, shouldn't Genealogy of scripts derived from Proto-Sinaitic be changed to reflect the ultimate origin of these scripts in regional Greek alphabets? Also, Carian is first attested in the 7th century BC, and none of the others is attested before the 5th century BC, so the "c. 800 BC" in the genealogy seems to be there to push the dubious POV that they are really independent developments from Phoenician. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 15:07, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Thank you for the clean-up work you have been doing in the various automobile articles. However, shifting anchors into section titles (eg in Toyota Sprinter) causes the history summaries to look like /* First generation {{anchor|E10}} */ some action I did. Having '{{anchor|E10}}' in every edit summary sure wastes a lot of space, looks ugly and is harder to read. Is it possible for you to leave the anchors in their original positions? Thanks. Stepho talk 05:58, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Your point about making sure that a link to an anchor goes to the top of the section is quite valid. Which is why I always put the anchor just above the section title. that way, a link to the anchor will always be just above the section title - which shows up in browsers as starting with the section title at the top of the screen. Unfortunately some of your edits (eg Toyota Sprinter) have converted the following:
==History== {{anchor|E10}} ===First generation—E10 series===
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==History {{anchor|E10}} == ===First generation—E10 series===
In my original form, the E10 anchor belongs to 'First generation—E10 series' section and browsers correctly show 'First generation—E10 series' at the top of the page but your edit puts 'History' at the top of the page. This isn't a great disaster but it is at least logically wrong (editors will wrongly think that the E10 anchor belongs to 'History' instead of the 'First generation—E10 series', which might cause confusion in any future rearranging of sections). It also screws up the edit summary history (as we both said above). And it doesn't give better results than my old method - indeed, it is very mildly worse. I do think that your other changes are worthwhile and I do thank you for them - it is only the changes to anchors that are causing me grief. Stepho talk 13:41, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Hey Kwami: Shouldn't we give the Latin/Gaulish pronunciation (prolly wɑːteːs) before the modern English one? And for the Greek pronunciation that you changed: the ou stands for the old digamma and represents a sound like the English ww, not an o-sound. Where did you find the pronunciation you entered? I'm only asking because I restecpt you and thought I'd check back before meddling. ;-) Trigaranus ( talk) 13:37, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
This edit has introduced an incoherent sentence. Roger Blench classifies WHAT? I'd have fixed it but I have no idea what you were trying to say. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 15:53, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I am stuck at Jarrod Bleijie. The guy's surname rhymes with "playi(ng)" (see [1]), I ended up with /ˈbleɪjiː/. Any ideas? Orderinchaos 09:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the fixes - looks better already. Cheers. -- Ckatz chat spy 18:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, some names in phonetics have changed in {{ IPAsym}}. Could you take a look at this question? - DePiep ( talk) 20:57, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
After the latest move request has landed up with about equal numbers for both sides I've started a mediation request. Please indicate there if you wish to participate. Thanks. -- Eraserhead1 < talk> 18:45, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
FYI, I've reverted your changes with respect to this. There doesn't appear to be any discussion leading to the changes, and a similar attempt last year was not accepted either. If consensus for the change does develop, then so be it, but that needs to happen first given the number of articles it would affect. Please let me know if there are any articles with unrelated grammatical changes that may have been inadvertently reversed in the process, as I can assist in restoring them. Cheers. -- Ckatz chat spy 16:38, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genealogy of scripts derived from Proto-Sinaitic - Were you aware of this, and are you going to comment? I thought all the major contributors were supposed to be notified of an afd, but this doesn't seem to have happened, so I'm notifying you as a contributor. The deletionists' main recurring argument seems to be that it inaccurately portrays language family relationships (including some who really ought to know the difference between language families, and scripts) Thanks, Til Eulenspiegel ( talk) 13:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
I noticed your renaming of the Siberian Yupik article. Please provide a rationale on the discussion page. My understanding is that Yupik is effectively an adjective and Yuit, like Inuit, is intrinsically plural. Perhaps the article should be Siberian Yupik People? Dankarl ( talk) 11:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Greetings, is there a particular SOP/policy, or consensus somewhere upon which you're basing your many changes? For example Ghosi (tribe) --> Ghosi tribe. It's just an extensive amount of changes, and I hadn't seen anything at WP:WikiProject India bringing the issue up. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 13:52, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, in my sandbox I created this for a template. Could you take a look, to prevent mistakes in phonetics, or any improvements? Thank you. Later on I'll put it in a template, and add a transclusion into IPA pulmonic consonants chart with audio. - DePiep ( talk) 22:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
wow im sorry man. they were good faith tags. I did not know. sorry. I didnt even know u were an admin to begin with man or else I wouldn't have reverted, I just thought it was a user removing the tags. I apologize. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ ( talk) 06:43, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, 神鏡. If I don't misunderstand, you are interested in issues related with Turkey and Turkic world. Could you control sources in the current vandalized edition and this edition of the article Zaza people ? Have a nice weekend. See you. Takabeg ( talk) 09:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
hello may I ask why you changed the article and removed all Sources which clearly point out Zaza considering themselves as Kurds?
Here is the discussion showing us that he couldn´t give any source providing his claims and he also did call me a Vandal first. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zaza_people#Neutrality
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisupporting ( talk • contribs) 12:43, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
excuse me but it is not a good feeling if someone starts to call you vandal but your right this was childish. I already explained all of this Issue on the talk page of Dougweller (another admin). Here please read it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Dougweller&action=edit§ion=1
It is under the section "Why did you change the sentence from most to large."
Also please take in account that the User Taakabeg started a edit war even before this all was cleared between us. I friendly asked him for sources showing us that the Majority to all Zaza consider themselves as Kurds and are seen as such by ethnologist he couldn´t and simply called me a Vandal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisupporting ( talk • contribs) 13:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Please kwamikagama don´t let yourself be manipulated by some users who couldn´t find sources for their claims and now are arguing with "vandalism" look what the User Takabeg is saying to me on my board.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wikisupporting#Your_belief
He is simply "insulting" me by saying I am a Zaza who is worshipping "the Kurds". he simply doesen´t wants to discuss with me in a calm manner. instead of showing a sources which says that the majority of Zaza consider themselves as a distinct ethnic group, he only accuses me for Vandalism.
Before the User takabeg started to edit, there was no edit war between me or any other User. He simply changed the whole article and removed some source. Because he found them not reliable for Wikipedia (his own opinion) and also he had double morals in his edits. he only mentioned parts of the sources which suit his believes and had nothing to do with the ethnic identification of Zaza and let the parts out were it is clearly pointed out Zaza considering themselves as Kurds. This is now going on for over a day and i am tired in explaining him he should find sources pointing out that the majority of zaza consider themselves as a separate group. Wikisupporting ( talk) 13:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Glad that you understand me. my whole point is about the ethnicity not about the language Zazaki. while I asked the User takabeg more than enough times to show sources which say that the ethnic self-designation of Zaza is not kurdish. So I will change it. But he couldn´t instead that, he showed me sources pointing out Zazaki being not kurdish in linguistic manner. And that there are some small circles in Diaspora which consider themselves as separate Group like Van Bruinessen mentioned. There is no evidence to believe that the Zaza do not consider themselves (at least the large majority) as Kurds but there are many sources exactly pointing out that they do consider themselves as Kurds.
Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:30, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Glad to see someone else involved. I've suggested an RfC, what do you think? Dougweller ( talk) 13:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
hello Kwami I have given a answer to your sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zaza_people#Removed_part
You see exactly my point. language doesen´t mean ethnicity. I have found many articles pointing out that Zaza consider themselves as Kurds but the user takabeg couldn´t find any sources claiming the opposite.
and still while I was asking him, he didn´t gave me sources but only mentioned linguistic issues.
here are some Sources pointing out that Zaza consider themselves as Kurds.
I quote some parts.
"This makes it necessary for me to state at the outset precisely whom I mean when in this article I use the ethnic label "Kurds". For pragmatic reasons I use a rather loose and wide definition, including all native speakers of dialects belonging to the Iranic languages Kurmanji or Zaza,"
This is the linguist part. I think we both agree that Zazaki is not a dialect of Kurmanji but a language.
"as well as those Turkish speaking persons who claim descent from Kurmanji or Zaza speakers and who still (or again) consider themselves as Kurds"
These are the Zaza and Kurmanj from which I told you who are partly assimilated (linguistically ) but still consider themselves Kurdish.
"if any, Kurmanji speakers understand Zaza, but most Zaza speakers know at least some Kurmanji. Virtually all Zaza speakers consider themselves, and are considered by the Kurmanji speakers, as Kurds."
This is exactly the Point I am referring to. Beside among some Diaspora Groups there is no Zaza which does not consider himself Kurdish but only Zaza and I have never seen a sources claiming the opposite. Thats why we should change the Article about Zaza into "Zaza are a Group which ethnically considered themselves as Kurds.
Here is another Source. The author of the book is Ludwig Paul a linguist and ethnologist who claims Zazaki as a independent language but considers them ethnically as Kurds. He also mentions that the Zaza consider themselves as Kurds.
page 386.
" Die Mehrzahl der Sprecher des Zazaki bezeichnet sich heute als Kurden und hält ihre Sprache für einen kurdischen Dialekt."
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"The majority of the Zazaki Speakers today call themselves Kurds and consider their language as a kurdish Dialect.
http://www.zazaki.net/haber/among-social-kurdish-groups-general-glance-at-zazas-503.htm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35883517/Kurds ,see page 3 — Preceding
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Thanks for your objective point of view. Yes I will add the Sources on the Zaza article. — Preceding
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Hello Kwami now after almost 24 hours of waiting the article blocked the user takabeg still didn´t contributed any sources to the Zaza talk page which could indicate that the majority of zaza consider themselves as a distinct ethnic Group and are due that a different ethnicity. When is this RFO going to end? Cause thats the first time for me. Wikisupporting ( talk) 13:01, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Kwami the User takabeg doesen´t stop accusing me for Vandalism and makes a bad name among the Admins about me. Even while you did warn us both two hours before, on the Zaza talk page, to stop calling each other as such.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kansas_Bear#Hi
Wikisupporting ( talk) 21:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, 神鏡. I don't understand this message. Who accused you ? Who screamed ? I can say easily that this case is not WP:Content dispute, but propaganda. Because it is well-known fact that there are several theses about the ehnicity, language of Zazas. I only tried to neutralize the article. Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources show this fact. Our duty is not to prove which thesis is "true" but to show what kind of theses are. I (not only I, but also every normal person) accept presence of various theses. One user who are supporting only one thesis, removed imformation that doesn't support his/her own thesis. I hope you will understand it. Takabeg ( talk) 21:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
kwami thats why I changed the article the last time before it was closed. to Zaza consider themselves as Kurds
You can see it here http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Zaza_people&oldid=437367876
And I did this because the only two sources I know which give any numbers are Paul Ludwig (who is also one of the main sources of the whole article!) and Van bruinessen ( a ethnologist). The first Paul Ludwig talks about Most Zaza considering themselves as Kurds and their languages as a kurdish dialect. And Van bruinessen talks about all Zazas. The only Reason why I edited this article the first time was, that it says, "many Zaza consider themselves as Kurds" While the only two Sources giving numbers talk about "Most" or "All". I would be fine with it when the article is changed into "the large majority of Zaza consider themselves ethnically as Kurds" (large majority because one source talks about all and another about most) Wikisupporting ( talk) 22:21, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
takabeg don´t tell me that there are various "theses" about the ethnicity of Zaza. Just show me sources which provide that their is a larger community of Zaza only considering themselves as a Zaza nation Wikisupporting ( talk) 22:05, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello! I thought you might have helpful insight on the current nomination for a Tibetan naming contention. I don't think the topic requires any particular expertise on Tibetan since the proposal must fit within established guidelines. I think the discussion would benefit from your evaluation and advice. If you have a moment, please have a look. Thanks! JFHJr ( ㊟) 04:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, I've left a question for you on Talk:Madang languages If all you had was Ross (2005), how did you know about this classification, which doesn't appear in it? Alternately, if you have the unpublished (1996) manuscript from which this material is drawn, why didn't you cite it? 128.208.76.85 ( talk) 22:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
In light of the seemingly endless disputes over their respective titles, a neutral mediator has crafted a proposal to rename the two major abortion articles ( pro-life/anti-abortion movement, and pro-choice/abortion rights movement) to completely new names. The idea, which is located here, is currently open for opinions. As you have been a contributor in the past to at least one of the articles, your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.
The hope is that, if a consensus can be reached on the article titles, the energy that has been spent debating the titles of the articles here and here can be better spent giving both articles some much needed improvement to their content. Please take some time to read the proposal and weigh in on the matter. Even if your opinion is simple indifference, that opinion would be valuable to have posted.
To avoid accusations that this posting violates WP:CANVASS, this posting is being made to every non-anon editor who has edited either page since 1 July 2010, irrespective of possible previous participation at the mediation page. HuskyHuskie ( talk) 19:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
For this. Drmies ( talk) 18:08, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Would I be right in assuming that what 19th century historians and linguists refer to as "Assyrian", would be in fact the Akkadian language, rather than the Aramaic spoken by modern assyrian people? ΔΥΝΓΑΝΕ ( talk) 22:17, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Xuancheng dialect. Since you had some involvement with the Xuancheng dialect redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). –– 虞海 (Yú Hǎi) ✍ 13:49, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, since you contributed to the debate on whether divination is the most appropriate term to define astrology in the first sentence, I wanted to let you know that I have asked for a straw poll on the astrology discussion page to find out whether we should seek alternatives (without specifying the wording at this stage) or we should keep divination. Robert Currey talk 17:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I saw the new article you created on "sulcalization". Is "sulcalized" just a fancy way of saying "grooved" for fricatives, etc. then? That's what it seems to be. Thank you. 208.104.45.20 ( talk) 16:41, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I can't understand why you did this. You may are right for all but two things: the changes on the European groups and the erasure of the Finno-Ugric subgroup of the Uralic peoples. Ok I see the meaning of ethnolinguistics has nothing to do with skin colour, and I agree, allthough I think the case was other here, ancestry. What about the people of European ancestry residing in the New World for exaple? What about the English-speaking American citizens of German ancestry, Italian ancestry etc? Where should they be included? In the meantime, by that edit of yours, a gap has been created as you didn't change the numbers and the current numbers correspond not to the population of European ethnolinguistic groups in the world but in Europe. I suggest you undo this edit or at least find another solution on how to include the English-speaking European majority of the USA, Canada and Australia or the Spanish-speaking European majority of Latin America etc in this article. A proposal I can make is adding the population of German Americans, German Canadians, German Australians, German New Zealanders, German Latin Americans and German Africans to Ethnic Germans; that of Italian Americans, Italian Canadians, Italian Australians, Italian New Zealanders, Italian Latin Americans and Italian Africans to Italian People and so on and so forth... It may be that the majority of them does not speak German or Italian or their respective ancestral language but don't forget it is ethnolinguistic, it's about ancestry, too. What do you think? If you have a better idea just let me know. If a good solution to the problem can't be fined then I think we should simply revert it to the previous one, because as I said before, it was not that wrong, having in mind ancestry has to do with ethnolinguistics. Warm regards. -- 109.242.75.41 ( talk) 18:04, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
Hi Kwami, I was wondering if you would have access to enough sources to finish a 5x expansion of Anal language. I am nominating Anal people for the April Fools DYK, and I think it would be nice if their language were expanded enough as well. I've tried my best, but I'm still short 800 chars. Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 09:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, sorry to bother you again so soon. Could you possibly delete 6 revisions of Wikipedia talk:Local Embassy, starting from this version and ending at this one? A user posted his/her name and email address. Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 17:06, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Can you please review (and repair as necessary) the mess that the current reviewer of this article, ChrisRuvolo ( t), has been making. Not only is he dictatorial, but I honestly have to wonder about his competence and how he was chosen for this status.
This is the second time now that, in the process of reverting multiple editors' edits, he has left behind the same duplication of information, namely in this case, the "State Parks" and "State-owned historical sites" subsections. Not only that, he's deleted the primary body of the "See also" content TWICE now, obviously without realizing it. It's either his way or the highway, and the article has clearly suffered as a result.
Thanks. 96.242.217.91 ( talk) 19:22, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Certainly, that is the usual course - but in this case, the problem is that the apparent brashness of this editor and his style, as well as my own questions about his competence, make that difficult to even approach. I'm open to that suggestion, but do you have any other suggestions, based on the edits themselves? 96.242.217.91 ( talk) 01:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Little Mountain 5 22:46, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwami,
It is now over weeks since the Zaza People article was protected. And since then in my opinion the wrong version was saved because the User with whom I had a contend issue has not shown any Sources in the discussion block of the article.
I on the other hand posted (I think) enough Sources which support my claims. See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zaza_people#a_couple_sources
Also the part which was dealing with the ethnogenesis, which I had added was removed.
I could post now any single Sources which considers Zaza as Kurds but I think in the link to the discussion block there are enough sources.
Just one I have to add. You need a account to read on were stands other sub dialects are....
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/325225/Kurdish-language
The thing is no single ethnologist or linguist ever claimed that Zaza are ethnically not Kurds.
Like I mentioned Ludwig Paul, one of the main sources of the Article, points out that the linguistic issue shouldn´t be taken in account by searching for the ethnic identity of Kurds and that Zaza and Kurmanji speaking Kurds build a ethnic unity. The whole problem with Zazaki being classified as "not Kurdish" is, That the linguist refer to a special dialect of Kurdish which is known as Kurmanji as "Kurdish". And when they say Zazaki is not "Kurdish" they mean Kurmanji. You can read it in Paul Ludwigs book. It is written in German but it is obvious that he refers to Kurmanji as "Kurdish" and he also mentions this. No Kurd is claiming that Zazaki is a dialect of Kurmanji.
How ever I don´t even want to argue about this. The only thing I want to change is the part with "Many " into most or large majority because this is support by Sources but there are no sources which support the contrary. And I also want to add the part with ethnogenesis and will quote everything what Paul Ludwig writes in his book about this. Wikisupporting ( talk) 01:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Ok thats why I will not mentioned that they are Kurds as if it is a "evidence" but maybe I will quote parts of sources which consider Zaza ethnically as Kurds and also mention according to who. Like I did with Paul Ludwig I quoted him.
However I still don´t think that there is even a reason to discuss about the ethnic identity of Zaza because from Sources it gets obvious that the large majority are Kurds(consider themselves as such) and where considered as such since millennia. This is all a discussion which started recently due the fact that some linguist consider Kurmanji which is spoken by the majority of Kurds as "kurdish" and so they mean Kurmanji when they speak about Zazaki being not Kurdish.
Well I have already edited the article but no where mentioned that Zaza are Kurds or not. However I have changed parts where there is a talk about "Zaza and Kurds" as if it is proven that both are separated groups. Regards Wikisupporting ( talk) 03:05, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Kwami, do you think this edit was appropriate or not? Linguistic Science ( talk) 22:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hi - not quite sure what you're asking. The Fali people live in Cameroon and Nigeria, as the references indicate. Neutrality talk 18:40, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
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The paragraph that you're so adamant about readding for some reason is completely unsourced (except for the rebuttal). -- 134.10.113.198 ( talk) 16:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwami.
I think this might interest you. Here is the block of the User Takabeg. it seems he did not only start a edit war with me. He does it with everything what might be against his turkish views. Be it Armenian or be it Kurdish. As a Adming please take a better look at this User. Something is very weird about him. It seems He edits things even before they are resolved simply to get a ban on the article. He works with System. He removes every Sources WITHOUT a Reason given just like he did with mine even while I asked him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Disruptive_editing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Adding_unreferenced_banner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Armenian_placenames_in_Turkey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Refs_removed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Tughra_edit_war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Vankli
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Anti-Kurdish_vandalism
I am still asking my self how a user, provoking closing of articles and obviously most of them at Kurdish and Armenian articles, can still work like if nothing happened. (You might know the relation between Kurds,Armenians and Turkey.)
If you don´t know about Turkeys anti Kurdish work on the Internet you might read this if you want. The part with "many Zaza" is copied by the former Wikipedia version of the "Zaza People" article.
And recently a man which was arrested in the "Ergenekon trial" (Ergenekon is a group of People working in high positions of the Turkish state) came out as one of the provocateurs working on the Net claiming themselves as Zazas and making Propaganda on Internet Sites and also Encyclopedias like Wikipedia.
http://www.haberdiyarbakir.com/news_detail.php?id=41870
greets Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:15, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Well than you really seem to have been in the East. The Kids throwing Stones at foreigners. Well I know what you mean. Some Children in such rural Regions are ill-mannered and they usually don´t trust foreigners. Who should blame them for that while they have only seen oppressions and killings. You should visit Iraqi Kurdistan it is a beautiful place.
About the warnings for you to stay away from East because terrorist might kill you. Well I ask my self were those who told you this in the near of Turks or somehow worked for them or with them? It also depends on what they meant with terrorist. Kurds usually mean some people else.
The Turkish education system unfortunately is very nationalistic. The People learn it in this way. Kurdish children are forced day by day before school begin to sing the Turkish national anthem and say how proud Turkish they are, how proud they are to serve Turkey and such things. Turkey solves its problems by wiping them out or ignoring them this is the main problem. Greets Wikisupporting
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Hi, could you kindly explain this edit at article: Kannada? You can respond here, I'll have this page on watch. Thanks. - Niri M / ನಿರಿ 08:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Kwami
There's a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(ships)#Punctuation_and_ship_classes that I think you should know about. Yours, Shem ( talk) 20:12, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they didn't read the article, so stop the ad hominems and let's work toward resolving this. I've opened up a conversation on the talk page, instead of reverting your latest edit, and invite you to join. VI WS talk 21:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
These are not my 'opinions', they are logical facts which the page itself refers to & I also tagged a reference with the edit. Actually instead of asking me to the talk page to "first discuss" after reverting, was a bad idea since you not agreeing with my edit already means that we should go to talk: WP:Don't revert due to "no consensus".
Anyway, already added a discussion on the bottom of the talk page of the article under a relevant topic which you appear not to have noticed. Hope to resolve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hassanhn5 ( talk • contribs) 01:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
That being said, "first discuss" is still a 'not helpful' option as mentioned in WP:Don't revert due to "no consensus" which I happened to see after reading WP:BOLD. Logic here means consistency, which is an essential part of the informative writing. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 01:42, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
I was having some difficulty setting up the username with certain symbols due to which there was such inconvenience. As for the term being "used" and not "invented" by Gandhi, the edit I made itself included the reference tag. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 01:45, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Since you keep on repeating, it was actually referenced. The edit had a tag to main Hindi-Urdu controversy. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 01:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
My reference was to the modern day subcontinent while talking of the bias.
The controversy article was already well linked, hence the addition was supported.
Since the discussion is bending more towards the article, it would be easier to continue it along on the article discussion page. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 02:06, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
I've added relevant references to this topic & also justified them on talk page. Unless you have any references against it, you shouldn't revert. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 18:46, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
You are really prejudiced against my point of view, claiming from the start every thing as my opinion, those references are 'reliably accepted' on other wikipedia articles. And they proved that India, Pakistan & Bangladesh don't form Hindustan (something which you were so bent on saying) hence supporting my point of bias. Since you are too busy to reply to any comments on the talk page and yet afraid of a silent consensus, I'm putting up WP:NPOV dispute tag so that other users can resolve the dispute. Donot remove the tag in disregard of the guidelines (since there is a dispute). -- lTopGunl ( talk) 12:11, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
As before you've again distorted my comment to your own accord (if you read it at all). It was to prove Pakistan not being a part of Hindustan anymore. They are not the same since 1947. Continuing to call them the same is the stupid thing to do. That's where the bias comes. You make wrong claims and continue to justify them by labeling my point of view as a mere opinion even where you are given references. Also since you yourself are calling it a POV war, that calls it a dispute and the fact that you simply don't like my point of view will not completely erase the dispute itself. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 12:53, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, I see your name around a lot but don't think we've interacted much. I keep a number of "odd" pages on my Watchlist, and as I was drinking my first cup of coffee this morning, I noticed you had changed the article " T" with the edit summary: "the "proto-Semitic alphabet" is not historical or academic, but theological, and so does not belong here. After reviewing Proto-Semitic language it seemed that your edit (and summary) were well intentioned, but not technically correct, so I reverted with an explanatory edit summary. It wasn't until afterwards that I realized you had made the same change to the rest of the alphabet articles. Given your standing and experience as an editor, I'm not about to engage in wholesale reversion of your work. Instead, I'm coming here to ask if I'm missing something? Linguistics is only a minor interest of mine, not an area of specialty, so I'm open to the idea that maybe I'm just wrong :) Doc Tropics 13:15, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Did you discuss the mass moving of script pages with anyone? This seems to have come out of nowhere, and this kind of major naming change should only happen as a result of a consensus. I know this wasn't discussed at WikiProject Writing systems, so if you did discuss it somewhere, nobody pointed you where it should have happened. Please put a link to whatever discussions took place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Writing systems#Article mass move. VI WS talk 23:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
I changed the name to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Writing systems#Naming consistency, because we might as well develop those principles while we're thinking about them. VI WS talk 00:21, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Kwami, I hope this finds you well. I have a question about something on the Talk:Ten_Commandments page, in the present bottom section called "Can we lift the page protection? Will some sysop help us out?" Your message is presently 3rd up from the bottom, and the reply immediately below yours addressed to you says in part, "I am glad you approve the proposal." I can't figure out what that refers to. Perhaps something in another section? Looking for your clarification there. Thanks. — Telpardec ( talk) 00:24, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your help.
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Unfortunately, given that you have continued to move articles relating to WikiProject Writing Systems, despite there being an active review of naming conventions, I have asked for administrative assistance at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#Bulk moving of scripts relating to WikiProject Writing systems. I had hoped that by purposefully not reverting the original edits, which I considered disruptive, that it would have inspired in-kind restraint on your part, but that appears to have failed. I'm sorry that you feel my efforts to have not deserved the respect that I have tried to show you. In sorrow, VI WS talk
Hi Kwamikagami. You've moved Mandombe script to Mandombe alphabet, but Mandombe is not an alphabet. -- Mᴏʏᴏɢᴏ/ ⁽ᵗᵃˡᵏ⁾ 08:50, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Sir. I don't appreciate you accusing me of adding ads to Wikipedia, or threatening me with an unwarranted block. I never added any adds to the Azores pages, or any page since I have been editing on Wikipedia, and your false accusation was unjustifiable. What I did do was revert the usage of a image on the Azores page that was inappropriate. The fact that I may have reverted a spamming IP user does not make ME the IP User. You will notice that my edits have all been content inspired, and I have reverted spammers and IP user malicious editing in the past. What I am guilty of doing is not looking deeper into edit history, before reverting content, which ironically, is the case with your post on my talk page. I simple email would have probably resulted in a apology on my part, and quick edit to resolve the discrepancy. Ruben JC (Zeorymer) ( talk) 14:30, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Dear Mr.Kwamikagami, Hi!, On 31/7/2011, you have changed the name of article from "Khudabadi Script" to "Khudabadi alphabets" which is highly objectionable. If you see any article or texts about Sindhi Language, the description of this article is given as "Khudabadi Script" and not "Khudabadi alphabets". Further, please note that the text of the article ia about the script and not about the alphabates. Therefore it is requested to revert back the name of title of this article to "Khudabadi Script". Thanks. Gespee ( talk) 16:51, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Kwamikagami_mass_renaming_script_pages_to_alphabet_pages.2C_when_they_are_not_alphabets - The final thing was your deletion of a dab page without discussion. Bogdan Nagachop ( talk) 17:26, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I wanted to let you know there is a user who has doubled the size of the Romance languages. Some of the info he added might be relevant and useful to the article, but there is also too much "rubbish", which makes it difficult to follow. I was wondering if anyone could have a look at all these changes, and clean it up a bit. Thanks in advance. Jɑυмe ( xarrades) 17:54, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
see Talk:Yoruba language. -- Mᴏʏᴏɢᴏ/ ⁽ᵗᵃˡᵏ⁾ 09:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
There use to be an article called Aspirate and I was wondering why you merged this into Aspirated consonant. I thought it was legitimate to have this article seperate from Aspirated consonant but unfortunately I can't find it in the history to determine if this is the case or not now. There are some languages that have aspirates that occur at at the end of a phoneme and not with initially. I think it is called 'final aspirate'. Or maybe I'm using the term aspirate incorrectly. Would you know what a final H is called? In Indic scripts there is a diacritic that adds this to letter clusters to produce [h] at the end. I'm not sure what the proper term for the sound it adds is called. The best term I can think of is 'aspirate' but this disambiguates into Aspirated Consonant. -- Dara ( talk) 02:07, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami
Please do the following:
Regards Martinvl ( talk) 11:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I've asked on the talk page if this is what people want. It's not clear to me from the discussion that it is, but neither is it clear that it isn't. — kwami ( talk) 18:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your formatting, etc. for the article I started, Nimi language. I live in Japan, but I write various language articles. Bruinfan12 ( talk) 00:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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Could you sort out the pronunciation at Noel Gayler? The NYT obit mentioned his name was pronounced GUY-ler. Thanks. Connormah ( talk) 19:44, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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Kwami, please see my reply to your recent post at my talkpage. Noetica Tea? 06:29, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami, I strongly object to the use of 'Maharashtra Konkani' for the purpose of dab, because the Ethnologue also gives an alternate name as 'Konkani Mangalorean'. Mangalore is in Karnataka which is a different state from Maharashtra. 'Maharashtra Konkani' would basically be Konkani dialect (Marathi) while 'Konkani Mangalorean' would basically be Karnataka Konkani or Canara Konkani. For this reason, I have started a discussion at the Konkani talk page as I mentioned in the edit summary. Unless you can provide a good reason, I am going to undo your changes in a few hours time.
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Talk:ISO_15924:Arab#Move Bogdan Nagachop ( talk) 13:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Adding some common transliteration characters to the Arabic character-insert tool which appears under the edit box could be a good idea. However, the list includes ǧ, which is not part of standard English-language transcriptions of the Arabic language, and whose use to transcribe Arabic words should not be encouraged (unless perhaps in a very limited way to transcribe Egyptian-dialect forms only). I would highly recommend the removal of ǧ. Thanks... AnonMoos ( talk) 20:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
@ kwami — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.227.211.21 ( talk) 16:28, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
I see that Ling.Nut requested his user pages be deleted. Could you possibly restore the start of the "Third Battle of Dalton" article that was at User:Ling.Nut/Sandbox2 to my user space? Ling.Nut and I had discussed collaborating on it a couple months ago — see the last 2 bullets here. It's on my ToDo list and it would be a shame to lose it. Thanks. Mojoworker ( talk) 19:02, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami. Eskimo peoples are Yupik peoples and Inuit peoples. The page Yupik people is mixed page! This is not true! The page Yup'ik for only Central Alaskan Yup'ik language speaking people! But, the page Yupik for all Central Alaskan Yup'ik language, Naukan Yupik language, Siberian Yupik language and Alutiiq language speaking peoples: Siberian Yupik people, Alutiiq people. Would you please look The pages Yup'ik (Central Alaskan Yup'ik language speaking people) and Yupik (Eskimo languages [excluded Inuit languages] speaking peoples). Why merged ? Not merged, not merged, not merged, please not merged. Best regards -- Kmoksy ( talk) 23:22, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
You recently deleted User:Ling.Nut/User DGAF as part of what appears to be a WP:VANISH request. I was wondering if you could recreate and userfy it to User:Cerejota/User DGAF. I was rather found of this user box, and sad to see it go. In addition, can you recreated the redirect that what speedy deleted at Template:User DGAF and point it at User:Cerejota/User DGAF. Thank you!-- Cerejota ( talk) 10:05, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
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Talk:ISO 15924:Latn#Move. Bogdan Nagachop ( talk) 11:38, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Added 'nowrap' to the IPA template. However, a side effect is that unused alts show up as thin line breaks.
For the clicks, we might want separate tables for plain, voiced, and nasal (as we do for other C's). Then we'd have only one letter per line, and wouldn't need 'nowrap'. (Done) — kwami ( talk) 21:57, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
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00:17, 14 August 2011 (UTC)Hi Kwami, I and user:Xyzzyva are having a trouble with a newcomer user, user:Strawberry on Vanilla, recently Xyzzyva added an IPA transcription on these pages, and got reverted by Strawberry, which made other non IPA transcription as in Botafogo de Futebol e Regatas, and wrong transcriptions as in Santos FC, Xyzzyva tried talk to him, but he just ignored and not answered, and I also tried revert him to the previous edit by Xyzzyva, but I also got reverted. As you are a sysop, I'd like to know from you the best way to proceed.-- Luizdl ( talk) 03:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I notice the we have both been undoing the of Zhuang by 虞海, however he continues to put them back in. I have tried talking to him but with no effect. What is the best next step? Johnkn63 ( talk) 10:28, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Kwamikagami. You as Administrator are a specialist in linguistic articles. What about Wisco2000 ( talk · contribs) latest massive disruptive edits on Old Church Slavonic, aided by vandalism despite my warnings? Regards. Jingby ( talk) 18:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
OK! You are right. I have hoped, he should stop his blind reverts by viewing was the reliable sources clearly and simply says. But I was wrong. Jingby ( talk) 19:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi again. I suppose this guy 173.79.160.88 ( talk · contribs), who has appeared immediately after the block of User:Wisco2000 is his sock. He has the same target, Bulgarian - Macedonian ethnic relation and the same blind-revert behaviour as the blocked one. I do not know, what to do with him! Jingby ( talk) 19:41, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Kwamikagami. This is the real sock BenFranklinPhilly ( talk · contribs). Jingby ( talk) 05:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Thak you. Jingby ( talk) 06:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Excuse me Kwami, could you please, take a look at the nationalistic activity of Lunch for Two ( talk · contribs). Thank you. Jingby ( talk) 09:49, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
I have edited the page. I have tried to follow the WP Standards. In regards to people, simply "Macedonian" has been replaced by "Ethnic Macedonian" (where this is the intention), per WP policy. I have left "Macedonian language" (as calling this is also WP policy and there is no other form of Macedonian language). I have replaced "Macedonian nationals" with "ethnic Macedonians" (as it includes people from Australia, Canada, etc.). I have replaced "recognition of Slavs" with "recognition of ethnic Macedonians" (they were recognised as "Macedonians" or "Slavo-Macedonians", but per WP policy I have put in the "ethnic" tag). I have changed "Macedonian minority" to "ethnic Macedonian minority". I have left "other Macedonian minorities", I think that the reasoning for this is straightforward, however I don't object to other ethnic Macedonian minorities. Take a look, I have a feeling that I have disambiguated "Macedonian" across the entirety of the page. Lunch for Two ( talk) 15:12, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
This guy obviously is nationalist and shell by blocked, but I do not unedrstand how is he reverting Admin without consensus and against the ARBCOM decisions. No reliable sourses, no consensus, against ARBCOM! How is this posible? Jingby ( talk)
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I have no sources, so it can be deleted due to WP:NOR, but as a native speaker I can confirm that Turkish has two different e's which aren't reflected in orthography and learned by listening. "sen" is pronounced like /sæn/. — amateur ( talk)
All I used at Google was <turkish vowel allophones> and I got a confirmation. It wasn't specific, but "amateur" is seconded by a Turk linguist. Congratulations. The passage does not say whether the conditioning of the variation is lexical or phonological. The text is a book in English, Balpinar, Turkish phonology, morphology, and syntax. See pp. 38-39. There are two vowel phonemes with three allophones, /ɛ, a/. Balpinar claims that some speakers lack the [æ] allophone. Maybe GN Lewis, Turkish Grammar, gave the details; I forget. This clue leads us to enhance the search string to . . . "three allophones". The answers are provided by Göksel and Kerslake, Turkish: a comprehensive grammar, p. 10. [æ] occurs before /l m n r/ in closed syllables; [ɛ] occurs in word final position; [e] elsewhere. There is an additional condition they mention. They do not acknowledge that some speakers have only two allophones. Conceivably, they have explicitly undertaken to describe a certain variety of the language which is a three allophone variety. Check the preface. Dale Chock ( talk) 08:18, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
In the dyadic kinship article no mention is made of how it relates to social deixis. Also another Angan language, Simbari, also has dyadic kinship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.200.60.230 ( talk) 02:22, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
I am rather concerned that a user has made and is editing large numbers of articles related to Transylvania to remove Hungarian elements from them [5]. Individually all the edits can probably be defended. Please could you have a look. We have all the problems of Ukrainian nationalist extremists deleting names they do not like from articles on places in Ukraine; this looks similar - but from a Romanian nationalist extremist POV. I would value a second opinion on this.-- Toddy1 ( talk) 13:45, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
So I decided to ask, Have we included the work of Théophile Obenga in any of the African sections? I am not familiar with why some people have issue with his classification. As it is not my 1st subject I wonder how this might be included in African language sections (If not there already). Cheers.-- Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ ( talk) 17:33, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Kwami, you should know after 10 or so years on Wikipedia that controversial moves should go through WP:RM, or at least after an extensive discussion on the talk page. As far as I can see, you moved Cyrillic alphabet to Cyrillic script and Category:Cyrillic alphabet to Category:Cyrillic script without a word of discussion, and now you're using AWB to recategorize all the articles. That is not cool. Please stop using AWB and open a discussion. No such user ( talk) 06:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
I acknowledge that renaming an article is called "moving" it at Wikipedia. Anyway, I have just expanded a stub, Fertit people. As I point out there, there is no such thing. Therefore, the article should be renamed. Since you have edited it and since you are a major "logistical" or "administrative" editor of language and anthropology articles, I would like to let you know that I propose to rename it "Dar Fertit", because that is a term that, according to the histories, has been in use for close to three centuries, right down to the present. This makes it notable, even though it is a vague term with little social and political substance.
The stub "Fertit people" has an interesting lack of history. Essentially, its content has not changed in the five years since it was created. Until today, it had not been edited at all for a year.
I intend to add more footnotes. I do not think the topic merits much more length than what it has now. My research suggests that people use the name simply because it's been used for a long time. To discuss this would be as worthwhile as discussing the substance of the term. Hurmata ( talk) 07:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
All right...let's try this...
Since you said you are studying on this sort of thing, can you give me an IPA for this?: Santos Futebol Clube
Strawberry on Vanilla ( talk) 02:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
1- Estádio Urbano Caldeira 2- Vila Belmiro
Thanks. Strawberry on Vanilla ( talk) 22:39, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Would you please add the Interwikis in the Articles you create?-- 84.57.62.139 ( talk) 08:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
I've just noticed that the German article de:Eskimo-aleutische Sprachen mentions a proposed genetic connection between Eskimo-Aleut and Wakashan, apparently argued for in an introduction to Eskimo-Aleut by Holst (2005). I thought you would be interested to learn about this. It would be nice if the articles on Eskimo-Aleut, Wakashan and Indigenous languages of the Americas mentioned this proposal, but I don't have the book and this issue would seem to be more in your own field of competence anyway, so I thought you might want to take care of this. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 14:50, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
I was wandering why you said nsibidi is not a writing system on the Igbo language article when the same page mentions it as a writing system, and the article for nsibidi is categorised under writing systems. And just overall, it's considered and ideographic writing system. Also, I added back the largest Igbo dialects that are usually mentioned in publishings. Ukabia - talk 15:29, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I noticed that Meliti is still protected. I posted a comment on the talk page over a week ago in good faith, it seems that those persons who were constantly reverting me are nowhere to be seen now and have not taken up my offer to talk the issues out (I imagine however they will be quick to revert though). I wish to make a few edits on the page, what is the best course of action to take? Thanks. Lunch for Two ( talk) 13:21, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Please review and comment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)
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Hey. You make nice edits here on Wikipedia. Something tells me you would be a nice contributor at drobos13 as well, which is a unique discussion environment where everything is pre-moderated and everyone is anonymous in public. It also has a very usable interface and has had over 11 years of R&D put into it. You would be part of the initial crowd of early adopters and be able to really get your voice heard. Please at least consider it and note that this was sent by a human being, manually, rather than some sort of automated bulk spam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rattlemake ( talk • contribs) 07:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Hey Kwami. Every time I visit a random obscure linguistics page, I invariably see you listed in the history, usually with some sort of formatting (e.g. AWB) change. Most recently I saw you in Southern Athabascan grammar. I'm impressed -- and curious what your "algorithm" is for visiting these pages. Do you surf randomly (but vigorously)? Do you search for interesting things and check out the relevant pages? Do you do a systematic scan of pages in certain categories? Do you have some ginormous watch list? (Or all of the above?) Benwing ( talk) 23:51, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami, I'm Zack, from Arabic Wikipedia. I was wondering if you could help me on this one: In the Arabic version of Edittools unlike the English one, when you switch between 'Insert' and 'Wiki Markup' for example, using not the mouse but the downward pointing arrow, the content does not appear unless you press Enter. Any idea what to do? -- Zack ( talk) 04:58, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm doing it here but I'm getting the same: no content unless I hit enter. I guess that's how it's designed. Could it be customisable? I don't know. You'd have to get hold of one of the developers. JIMp talk· cont 19:01, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
you should close the Zaza People article again. There has started another edit war. And I am really tired of this and that the User Takabeg is harassing me on my talk site with Wikipedia rules while he is removing my comments from the articles Discussions site.
My request please use a older Version of the article before the edits between me and Takabeg and close the article.
Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:47, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Could you revert User:Wikisupporting edition you restored before protecting the Zaza people article, because it was precisely his/her edition done by an ethnocentric point of view, which contains POV materials, using reference which does not correspond to the content. And more seriously, apart from POV material, the user is erasing other academically referenced sources about different theories. Thank you. Menikure ( talk) 18:43, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Ethnocentic point of view? Seriously now. Takabeg has no right in editing the whole article into his turkish centric point of view.
1. Uses Van Bruinessen as source, mention that according to him some Zaza have started to consider themselves as a different ethnic group, but why don´t mention that their number is very very small and is in fact only a phenomena among "Exilromantics" this is how he use to call them. He doesen´t even mentionso him that still virtually all Zaza consider themselves as Kurds and permanently edits everything going into this direction while 3 sources at ones confirm this. Another thing surprisingly no other complained about this. Neither the Users Amadoni, Wesar, Sagapane, two of them Zaza nor any other User. Surprisingly just new Users "known" by Takabeg complain about this. And just to make it clear my version was different I even tried out Takabegs Version and only added some fact which are also mentioned in the sources. But Takabeg of course couldn´t stand any mention about how the Zaza consider themselves. http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Zaza_people&action=historysubmit&diff=446011171&oldid=445989523 The only Problem the User Takabeg and his colleagues, or his own other IPs have, is the mentioning that the Zaza mainly consider themselves as Kurds. And while Takabeg was the one who did involve the User Kwamikagami into this, now Kwamigami is not "neutral" enough and deceived by me. ironically the last edit was made by established member Amadoni and not me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Zaza_people But of course that User Takabeg is known almost by any Admin for permanent edit warring is not important. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Medes
I am going to stay out of this. I really don´t have any more nerves for this permanent edit wars. So my own request is, after some weeks when the locking is over. The article should be protected from non Admin editors and new created by Admins. Means no one not me nor Takabeg should be allowed to edit the article. This should be made by chosen Admins. Or if not possible, the article should be removed. Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:03, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I am willing to stay out of this. This is my effort because it is almost impossible to come to a conclusion with Takabeg, a User who made so many edit wars on different Articles. Mainly Kurdish, Armenian, Turkish related ones. My only request is that the User Takabeg should not be allowed to work on this article. It should be closed and worked out by admins or removed fully. If the User Takabeg still goes on in editing the article. Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:19, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Kwami. I was also involved in editing Zaza article on different Wikipedia versions, were other People were involved too. Surprisingly we could come to a conclusion and made the article, even though not perfect, at least close to reality. All of the involved Users agreed on the fact, that Van Bruinessen is one of the least Sources who is not politically motivated. When we see Van Bruinessens work, we see this facts. 1. The idea of being a separate group, is only present among a small Group of "Exilromantics". 2. The Zaza were traditionally and are still usually considered as Kurds. 3. Virtually all Zaza consider themselves as Kurds and reject strictly the Idea of being a separate ethnic group. 4. The Zaza language might not be classified by some specialized sources not as Kurdish(used as synonym for Kurmanji which is only one of the Kurdish languages) anymore, but still a very close language to it. The definition of what is Kurdish and not is only based on the own ethnic definition of the Group. And we read that according to Van Bruinessen they do consider their language as a Kurdish dialect. 5. Also very important. In Van Bruinessens schooled eyes. It seems more like a "inner Kurdish" conflict than a Zaza-Kurdish separate one. He mentions and what is the reality. There are as much "other Kurds" who consider themselves as Turks or define their ethnic identity by religious denomination. Means when there are Zaza who consider themselves as non Kurds, those mainly don´t do this because they believe that Zaza are a non ethnic Kurdish group but because they define themselves by religious Groups to which they belong. In other words, a Zaza Alevi feels much closer to an Kurmanj Alevi as he would feel to a Sunni Zaza. So according to Van Bruinessen The Kurds (in which he includes the Zaza) could be separated into 3 Groups not based on linguistics but religious believes. Like "Alevi, Sunni, Yezidi".
You can read it here. http://www.hum.uu.nl/medewerkers/m.vanbruinessen/publications/Bruinessen_Ethnic_identity_Kurds.pdf And now please compare this to the Version of takabeg and you will see the sparsely selected parts of this wonderful work. The only thing he really took out. "According to Van Bruinessen some Zaza have started to consider themselves as a distinct ethnic Group". He took out the part which became the least importance by Van Bruinessen and mentioned it as if this was the most important part.
All other Sources believe it are somehow politically motivated. Be it Pro or Contra Kurdish. And this cant be that much compared to other disputed articles. The Zaza Article on Wikipedia is Used by Turkish Media, like TV and Newspapers as a source to brainwash the People and to tell them as what they should consider themselves. Thats why my request don´t let non admin Users edit this Article. Asking Dougweller is a good Idea. Of course only if he wants Wikisupporting ( talk) 15:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Menikure, but at the same time the only sources pointing out the number of Zaza who consider themselves as Kurds, confirm all that the large majority to virtually all consider themselves as Kurds. And this was not added. It is impossible to come to an conclusion if both sides have such different views. And I don´t understand why you do insist that normal Users should be allowed to edit the article. Are you not convinced that the Admins could make a "unpolitical" article which does not suit your believes? Do you fear something?. My request stands to block this article and only let it be edited by Admins. I don´t fear anything because I am convinced that non political motivated versions made by Admins will come much closer to the reality than version made by unknown Persons. Wikisupporting ( talk) 15:13, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I noticed a recent edit in which you moved a pronunciation from the lede to the person infobox. I can't find the relevant guidelines in the MoS. Could you point the way? Considering the percentage of my edits this would effect, I'd like to do it right... — ˈzɪzɨvə ( talk) 18:49, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi. You deleted User talk:Ling.Nut2 under CSD U1. As far as I can see, that criterion specifically and explicitly excludes user talk pages. Mistake? -- MZMcBride ( talk) 20:14, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#comet_names, regarding a few moves that you made back in May. -- Enric Naval ( talk) 11:54, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Your editing is being discussed at WP:ANI#Pronunciation. Prolog ( talk) 19:15, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Please modify map, you put Abu Salim as rebel-held on the Tripoli map, that was a bit premature. BBC and Al Jazeera reported today that fighting is still ongoing there [6] [7]. Thank you. EkoGraf ( talk) 13:37, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Wrong, the source says the area is surrounded by the rebels, nothing about it being captured. They only said that they belive Gaddafi is in the district. Quoting the rebel spokesman The area where he is now is under siege. Please make the appropriate change. Fighting is still ongoing in Abu Salim according to both BBC and Al Jazeera. EkoGraf ( talk) 16:38, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, sorry, didn't realize the two sentences were related to one another and covered by the same source, makes more sense now, thanks! Rainbowwrasse ( talk) 17:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Hiya. You're obviously keen on WP (as am I) & a prolific editor. And indeed an admin.- well done on both those aspects.
So it's disappointing you choose to generally it seems shun providing wp:ESs in Special:Contributions/Kwamikagami. May I ask why you shun them, esp. as you are an admin.?
Secondly, any thoughts on wp:archiving?
Reply here if you care, & I'll respond. Regards, Trafford09 ( talk) 12:05, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the replies.
So, you've slipped into what consensus would consider a bad habit, & it's more important to you &/or WP that your edits be prolific than following guidelines, regardless of your admin. status. Quantity outweighs quality, and it doesn't matter if it appears 'one rule for us & another for them', or 'do as we say, not as we do'.
Hmm - shouldn't you be setting a good example, if having admin. status matters to you?
wp:archiving suggests: "The talk page guidelines suggest archiving when the talk page exceeds 50 KB".
Your talk page is currently running at ~240 KB - that was my second point. Trafford09 ( talk) 12:23, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Since you were the last one who moved the page, about a year ago, I thought I'd alert you to a discussion at Talk:Shilha people. I haven't done any research myself into which name is used by sources, so I'm hearing advice from anyone with knowledge about the subject. Thanks in advance if you have any input to make. - GTBacchus( talk) 17:54, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
With all respect, your IPA at yoghurt is revealing that you haven't heard many Britis talk. The "r" in that word is totally unpronounceable for a Brit. Yngvadottir ( talk) 00:26, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
CalRis ( talk) 07:40, 30 August 2011 (UTC): Hello Kwamikagami!
You undid my contribution to the article Eris (dwarf planet) making clarifications concerning its orbit classification (and its possible resonance based on a simulation using old orbit data - I communicated with Mr. Dunn about it, and he acknowledged that using the latest orbit data it is not in a resonance). You give the following reason for your undo: "this is not my understanding as to what DO normally means: that's for things like Sedna, not Eris"
It may not be your understanding as to what detached object means, but it is certainly the understanding of Gladman et al. as presented in their paper Nomenclature in the Outer Solar System (Gladman et al. 2008 - you can download it here). The book it is part of - The Solar System Beyond Neptune - is a compendium of the state of knowledge about the TNOs as of 2008. So, a nomenclature in it is no idle talking but should be acknowledged in the respective Wikipedia articles.
According to 10 million years numerical integrations performed by Gladman et al., Eris is not at the present actively scattering off Neptune. Gladman et al. list Eris (together with Sedna) as a detached object. Read their paper for yourself. We cannot simply ignore this classification just because it is not your understanding.
As far as I can tell (and I have been reading a lot about Eris and TNOs) we are just experiencing a shift in nomenclature to a coherent nomenclature based on the "current shortterm dynamics rather than a belief about either where it will go in the future or what its past history was" (quote from Gladman et al. 2008).
As for the classifications assigned by the Minor Planet Center, these should be treated with cautious. I sent an e-mail to them and got the following answer from a Mr. Gareth V. William: "The MPC classifications, particularly in the outer solar system are broad classifications based on the osculating orbits, not on long-term integrations. [...] We consider "Centaur/SDO/ESDO" to be a continuum of objects, that differ only in q and a. [...] It was the intent the classifications of Gladman et al. be incorporated into our classfications but that has not yet happened."
Please revert your undo to activate my contribution or refer this matter to a higher authority.
Yours sincerely,
CalRis
Hello! With AWB your IPA edits have the edit summary "fix IPA". However, in at least some of your edits, they are not actually fixes; edits such as this and this just tag the out-written IPA's as dubious. It would be nice if you're willing to modify your edit summaries for such edits to indicate what you're actually doing. Thanks in advance, Hey Mid ( contribs) 20:03, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi dear Kwamikagami,
please could you help with the correct pronunciation of Tinchy Stryder`s real name Kwasi Danquah. As I can see you speak the Ghanian Twi language, my thought on the pronunciation of Kwasi Danquah was (Kwasi ----> Kway-si or Kwee-si ?) and then (Danquah ----> Dan-qwah or Dan-qoo-ah ?). Please if you can help me with the correct pronunciation if non of the above pronunciation's are correct and which one is correct if any of the pronunciation's above are correct. Thanks. Truex75 ( Talk) 00:30, 31 August 2011 UTC
Hi there Kwami,
I have been to do some research on YouTube and found a video of the name Kwasi being pronounced by some Ghanaian DJs one who is named Kwasi pee, and they pronounce the name Kwasi as (Kway-si) just as the IPA that I putted on Tinchy Stryder's article. The video Link is here ----> [9] and for the surname Danquah witch was pronounced as (dan-QWAH) when an American man is advertising a music record for a Ghanaian musician by the name of George Danquah, the video Link is here also ----> [10]. So please tell me what you think because I wanted to ask for your permission first to undo the IPA edit that you made since my thought on the correct pronounciation of Kwasi Danquah was a 100% correct in the first place, please let me know what we can do from here. Thanks. Truex75 ( Talk) 01:42, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Kwami! From your user page info you seem to be quite an expert on languages and writing systems. Could you please kindly look at this? Thx in advance!!! -- Nazar ( talk) 09:11, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
It seems correct to me. Newfoundlander&Labradorian ( talk) 14:26, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
For consistency, please note the desired capitalization of “X” in the moves from "Manual of Style (x)" to "Manual of Style/X”.
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I've been wondering why the MOSs are moved to their new names/style. Can you point me to a place where this was discussed? Thanks. – sgeureka t• c 09:07, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for doing these moves - please could you also do Wikipedia:Manual of Style (linking), which I overlooked yesterday?-- Kotniski ( talk) 09:19, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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In this edit, you moved the Gagauz link (gag:) to follow the Galego (gl:) link. I have corrected it. — Coroboy ( talk) 23:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I notice you have been deleting Altaic from some articles.
If it is debated, we should not come down on either side of the controversy, according to WP:NPOV. Judgement of correctness is not the criterion for inclusion - notability and verifiability are. -- JWB ( talk) 22:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Could you please explain why your addition of ɨ here in both IPAc-en and IPA-en is rendered differently, as an incorrect crossed-out ɪ (not on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key) in the former and a correct ɨ in the latter. Even stranger is that copy-pasting the letter from the IPAc-en rendering produces ɪ, not the crossed-out version visible in the final UI. Thanks, -- Espoo ( talk) 00:55, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Tambora language at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Crisco 1492 ( talk) 03:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I was wondering if you could include the IPA pronunciation for Koentjaraningrat. In Indonesian it is pronounced (roughly) koon-cha-“ra-ning-rat (with the r a trill). Sorry to bother you, but I'm not sure which symbols are used in English for some of the sounds, especially the trill R. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 23:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the recent edits to the Zarma language article. I do have a few questions about some of your recent edits.
1. My background in linguistics is minimal. What exactly do the "<>" symbols stand for in your edit, which reads "a following ‹n› or ‹ŋ›"? Do they indicate orthography?
2. I'm not sure the consonant table edits are correct. The article says the consonant table is a "table using Zarma orthography". It used to use standard Zarma spelling with just a few explanatory IPA symbols in brackets where needed. But now it is a mix of spelling conventions and phonetic representations with inconsistent punctuation differentiating the two. I would prefer returning it to the orthographic representations because the text and the bracketed IPA symbols fully explain how the letters are pronounced. But if you disagree, we could rewrite the table entirely in phonetic symbols. In any case, it really should be all IPA symbols or all standard spelling indicators rather than the current mixture, right? Or am I missing something?
3. Why was the labiodental nasal removed? This leaves the sentence in the text above the table somewhat orphaned and the table incomplete. -- seberle ( talk) 01:51, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again Kwami, but as I was taking a look at Wikipedia:IPA for Malay I remembered that (in Indonesian, at least) the vowels [e], [i], [o], and [u] have the allophones /ɛ/, /ɪ/, /ɔ/, and /ʊ/ respectively when in closed syllables at the end of a word (for example, [leˈle] 'catfish', but [lɛˈlɛh] 'melt'; [piˈpi] 'cheek' and [pɪˈpɪs] 'to pee (informal)'; [soˈto] ' soto' and [sɔˈtɔŋ] 'cuttlefish'; and [taˈhu] 'know' or 'tofu' and [taˈhʊn] 'year'). Would that be worth including at Wikipedia:IPA for Malay? Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 03:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
The symbol proposed for the sun in the Declination article do not render as anything meaningful in the Opera browser. Did you not read the edit history reverting the previous change? - Ac44ck ( talk) 06:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
I goofed when I attempted to revert a recent move. Feel free to move Voiceless palatal-alveolar sibilant to Voiceless palato-alveolar sibilant. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 19:23, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Kwami, in all your manipulation of Northern East Cree and Southern East Cree, you managed to lose Southern East Cree. Northern East and Southern East are distinct languages/dialects and require separate pages. -- Taivo ( talk) 08:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
On 6 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tambora language, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Tambora, a Papuan language, was once spoken in the middle of Indonesia near Bali, far to the west of Papua, until the trading state that used it was wiped out by the eruption of Mount Tambora in 1815? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Materialscientist ( talk) 16:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind giving a look to this edit request? Thanks! 68.35.40.154 ( talk) 04:45, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
You broke my user page :( 131.211.84.85 ( talk) 14:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! I've been meaning to do that for ages. (Honest!) Pdfpdf ( talk) 11:39, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami! It looks like you're breaking things with AWB. Cbrown1023 talk 20:21, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
-- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 07:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
May I ask why you used an en-dash between Khanty and Mansi in your most recent move? I just want to make sure I understand the rationale. Thanks.— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); June 10, 2011; 20:04 (UTC)
Please be careful when making such edits with AWB, as the link to the image broke because the file name uses a hyphen, not a dash. Adabow ( talk · contribs) 07:35, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, can you check the IPA for Junrey Balawing? It's certainly not standard English but is labelled as IPA for English. μηδείς ( talk) 20:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Within the past 4 days, there have been 6 edits ( example) replacing 'South China' with 'West Philippine' in the context of the sea. All purely disruptive and by changing users/IPs, so either a range-block or a semi-protect of this article, please. Thanks
PS: I have promised not to make any requests at WP:Requests for __ for the time being, and will not renege on that promise. —HXL's Roundtable and Record 06:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
I believe Ibibiogrl attempted to report you for a WP:3RR violation on the Efik language article. Best, Meph talk 23:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC).
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Kwami I Have just edited all comments I wrote on the Efik Talk Page, Am Sorry If I offended you. But Now that you can clearly read everything, you will notice that I explained initially the mistake you made, and told you that Efik and Ibibio languages were different just like French and Spanish differs. I started calling you names only after you ignored my comments and kept asking me what I thought was wrong. I thought you were treating my oppinions as jokes. Most of my oppinions were quotes from you. I also used Caps because my spacing wasn't showing up, so I used caps to explain it to you as I was tired of repeating myself. Am not usualy easily irritated escept in this case, because you refuse to consider my oppinions at first. This case is personal to me, I doubt that you will ignored it if somebody made a joke of your language. Ibibiogrl ( talk) 23:50, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
So if it was once called "Ibibio-Efik"(which I have been saying that wikipedia created that name) why should you change it back to that name? I have been telling you That It does not Exist because it implies that the language is mixed with Ibibio & Efik. Such Language doesn't exist.
You still don't understand. Please read WP:TRUTH. Please read anything about Wikipedia so you understand how things work here. You've been here three years; you should know this stuff by now. Also, please read the sourced answers I've given to your objections. "I didn't hear that" is not a valid argument. — kwami ( talk) 21:52, 16 June 2011 (UTC) Kwami can you please help me delete all the comments made by me and even yours including my name. Because as I had stated a few days Ago, I DO NOT WANT ANY ASSOCIATION WITH wikipedia. I don't want my name or any links conecting to me to be on wikipedia. THANKS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.250.191.192 ( talk) 21:50, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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Your advice on this would be good. Tony (talk) 09:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
See my talk page for a response. Cheers, m.o.p 22:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
About the map, I find that it is just a way to give you an idea, like holding just one province. The outskirts of Sabha are not held by rebels, but just to show there is a resistance. Message me back so I know you understand at my talk page. Spesh531, My talk, and External links 13:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
In light of your remark on Talk:Alphabets of Asia Minor, shouldn't Genealogy of scripts derived from Proto-Sinaitic be changed to reflect the ultimate origin of these scripts in regional Greek alphabets? Also, Carian is first attested in the 7th century BC, and none of the others is attested before the 5th century BC, so the "c. 800 BC" in the genealogy seems to be there to push the dubious POV that they are really independent developments from Phoenician. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 15:07, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Thank you for the clean-up work you have been doing in the various automobile articles. However, shifting anchors into section titles (eg in Toyota Sprinter) causes the history summaries to look like /* First generation {{anchor|E10}} */ some action I did. Having '{{anchor|E10}}' in every edit summary sure wastes a lot of space, looks ugly and is harder to read. Is it possible for you to leave the anchors in their original positions? Thanks. Stepho talk 05:58, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Your point about making sure that a link to an anchor goes to the top of the section is quite valid. Which is why I always put the anchor just above the section title. that way, a link to the anchor will always be just above the section title - which shows up in browsers as starting with the section title at the top of the screen. Unfortunately some of your edits (eg Toyota Sprinter) have converted the following:
==History== {{anchor|E10}} ===First generation—E10 series===
to:
==History {{anchor|E10}} == ===First generation—E10 series===
In my original form, the E10 anchor belongs to 'First generation—E10 series' section and browsers correctly show 'First generation—E10 series' at the top of the page but your edit puts 'History' at the top of the page. This isn't a great disaster but it is at least logically wrong (editors will wrongly think that the E10 anchor belongs to 'History' instead of the 'First generation—E10 series', which might cause confusion in any future rearranging of sections). It also screws up the edit summary history (as we both said above). And it doesn't give better results than my old method - indeed, it is very mildly worse. I do think that your other changes are worthwhile and I do thank you for them - it is only the changes to anchors that are causing me grief. Stepho talk 13:41, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Hey Kwami: Shouldn't we give the Latin/Gaulish pronunciation (prolly wɑːteːs) before the modern English one? And for the Greek pronunciation that you changed: the ou stands for the old digamma and represents a sound like the English ww, not an o-sound. Where did you find the pronunciation you entered? I'm only asking because I restecpt you and thought I'd check back before meddling. ;-) Trigaranus ( talk) 13:37, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
This edit has introduced an incoherent sentence. Roger Blench classifies WHAT? I'd have fixed it but I have no idea what you were trying to say. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 15:53, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I am stuck at Jarrod Bleijie. The guy's surname rhymes with "playi(ng)" (see [1]), I ended up with /ˈbleɪjiː/. Any ideas? Orderinchaos 09:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the fixes - looks better already. Cheers. -- Ckatz chat spy 18:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, some names in phonetics have changed in {{ IPAsym}}. Could you take a look at this question? - DePiep ( talk) 20:57, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
After the latest move request has landed up with about equal numbers for both sides I've started a mediation request. Please indicate there if you wish to participate. Thanks. -- Eraserhead1 < talk> 18:45, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
FYI, I've reverted your changes with respect to this. There doesn't appear to be any discussion leading to the changes, and a similar attempt last year was not accepted either. If consensus for the change does develop, then so be it, but that needs to happen first given the number of articles it would affect. Please let me know if there are any articles with unrelated grammatical changes that may have been inadvertently reversed in the process, as I can assist in restoring them. Cheers. -- Ckatz chat spy 16:38, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genealogy of scripts derived from Proto-Sinaitic - Were you aware of this, and are you going to comment? I thought all the major contributors were supposed to be notified of an afd, but this doesn't seem to have happened, so I'm notifying you as a contributor. The deletionists' main recurring argument seems to be that it inaccurately portrays language family relationships (including some who really ought to know the difference between language families, and scripts) Thanks, Til Eulenspiegel ( talk) 13:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
I noticed your renaming of the Siberian Yupik article. Please provide a rationale on the discussion page. My understanding is that Yupik is effectively an adjective and Yuit, like Inuit, is intrinsically plural. Perhaps the article should be Siberian Yupik People? Dankarl ( talk) 11:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Greetings, is there a particular SOP/policy, or consensus somewhere upon which you're basing your many changes? For example Ghosi (tribe) --> Ghosi tribe. It's just an extensive amount of changes, and I hadn't seen anything at WP:WikiProject India bringing the issue up. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 13:52, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, in my sandbox I created this for a template. Could you take a look, to prevent mistakes in phonetics, or any improvements? Thank you. Later on I'll put it in a template, and add a transclusion into IPA pulmonic consonants chart with audio. - DePiep ( talk) 22:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
wow im sorry man. they were good faith tags. I did not know. sorry. I didnt even know u were an admin to begin with man or else I wouldn't have reverted, I just thought it was a user removing the tags. I apologize. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ ( talk) 06:43, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, 神鏡. If I don't misunderstand, you are interested in issues related with Turkey and Turkic world. Could you control sources in the current vandalized edition and this edition of the article Zaza people ? Have a nice weekend. See you. Takabeg ( talk) 09:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
hello may I ask why you changed the article and removed all Sources which clearly point out Zaza considering themselves as Kurds?
Here is the discussion showing us that he couldn´t give any source providing his claims and he also did call me a Vandal first. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zaza_people#Neutrality
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisupporting ( talk • contribs) 12:43, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
excuse me but it is not a good feeling if someone starts to call you vandal but your right this was childish. I already explained all of this Issue on the talk page of Dougweller (another admin). Here please read it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Dougweller&action=edit§ion=1
It is under the section "Why did you change the sentence from most to large."
Also please take in account that the User Taakabeg started a edit war even before this all was cleared between us. I friendly asked him for sources showing us that the Majority to all Zaza consider themselves as Kurds and are seen as such by ethnologist he couldn´t and simply called me a Vandal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisupporting ( talk • contribs) 13:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Please kwamikagama don´t let yourself be manipulated by some users who couldn´t find sources for their claims and now are arguing with "vandalism" look what the User Takabeg is saying to me on my board.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wikisupporting#Your_belief
He is simply "insulting" me by saying I am a Zaza who is worshipping "the Kurds". he simply doesen´t wants to discuss with me in a calm manner. instead of showing a sources which says that the majority of Zaza consider themselves as a distinct ethnic group, he only accuses me for Vandalism.
Before the User takabeg started to edit, there was no edit war between me or any other User. He simply changed the whole article and removed some source. Because he found them not reliable for Wikipedia (his own opinion) and also he had double morals in his edits. he only mentioned parts of the sources which suit his believes and had nothing to do with the ethnic identification of Zaza and let the parts out were it is clearly pointed out Zaza considering themselves as Kurds. This is now going on for over a day and i am tired in explaining him he should find sources pointing out that the majority of zaza consider themselves as a separate group. Wikisupporting ( talk) 13:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Glad that you understand me. my whole point is about the ethnicity not about the language Zazaki. while I asked the User takabeg more than enough times to show sources which say that the ethnic self-designation of Zaza is not kurdish. So I will change it. But he couldn´t instead that, he showed me sources pointing out Zazaki being not kurdish in linguistic manner. And that there are some small circles in Diaspora which consider themselves as separate Group like Van Bruinessen mentioned. There is no evidence to believe that the Zaza do not consider themselves (at least the large majority) as Kurds but there are many sources exactly pointing out that they do consider themselves as Kurds.
Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:30, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Glad to see someone else involved. I've suggested an RfC, what do you think? Dougweller ( talk) 13:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
hello Kwami I have given a answer to your sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zaza_people#Removed_part
You see exactly my point. language doesen´t mean ethnicity. I have found many articles pointing out that Zaza consider themselves as Kurds but the user takabeg couldn´t find any sources claiming the opposite.
and still while I was asking him, he didn´t gave me sources but only mentioned linguistic issues.
here are some Sources pointing out that Zaza consider themselves as Kurds.
I quote some parts.
"This makes it necessary for me to state at the outset precisely whom I mean when in this article I use the ethnic label "Kurds". For pragmatic reasons I use a rather loose and wide definition, including all native speakers of dialects belonging to the Iranic languages Kurmanji or Zaza,"
This is the linguist part. I think we both agree that Zazaki is not a dialect of Kurmanji but a language.
"as well as those Turkish speaking persons who claim descent from Kurmanji or Zaza speakers and who still (or again) consider themselves as Kurds"
These are the Zaza and Kurmanj from which I told you who are partly assimilated (linguistically ) but still consider themselves Kurdish.
"if any, Kurmanji speakers understand Zaza, but most Zaza speakers know at least some Kurmanji. Virtually all Zaza speakers consider themselves, and are considered by the Kurmanji speakers, as Kurds."
This is exactly the Point I am referring to. Beside among some Diaspora Groups there is no Zaza which does not consider himself Kurdish but only Zaza and I have never seen a sources claiming the opposite. Thats why we should change the Article about Zaza into "Zaza are a Group which ethnically considered themselves as Kurds.
Here is another Source. The author of the book is Ludwig Paul a linguist and ethnologist who claims Zazaki as a independent language but considers them ethnically as Kurds. He also mentions that the Zaza consider themselves as Kurds.
page 386.
" Die Mehrzahl der Sprecher des Zazaki bezeichnet sich heute als Kurden und hält ihre Sprache für einen kurdischen Dialekt."
translated
"The majority of the Zazaki Speakers today call themselves Kurds and consider their language as a kurdish Dialect.
http://www.zazaki.net/haber/among-social-kurdish-groups-general-glance-at-zazas-503.htm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35883517/Kurds ,see page 3 — Preceding
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Thanks for your objective point of view. Yes I will add the Sources on the Zaza article. — Preceding
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Hello Kwami now after almost 24 hours of waiting the article blocked the user takabeg still didn´t contributed any sources to the Zaza talk page which could indicate that the majority of zaza consider themselves as a distinct ethnic Group and are due that a different ethnicity. When is this RFO going to end? Cause thats the first time for me. Wikisupporting ( talk) 13:01, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Kwami the User takabeg doesen´t stop accusing me for Vandalism and makes a bad name among the Admins about me. Even while you did warn us both two hours before, on the Zaza talk page, to stop calling each other as such.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kansas_Bear#Hi
Wikisupporting ( talk) 21:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, 神鏡. I don't understand this message. Who accused you ? Who screamed ? I can say easily that this case is not WP:Content dispute, but propaganda. Because it is well-known fact that there are several theses about the ehnicity, language of Zazas. I only tried to neutralize the article. Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources show this fact. Our duty is not to prove which thesis is "true" but to show what kind of theses are. I (not only I, but also every normal person) accept presence of various theses. One user who are supporting only one thesis, removed imformation that doesn't support his/her own thesis. I hope you will understand it. Takabeg ( talk) 21:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
kwami thats why I changed the article the last time before it was closed. to Zaza consider themselves as Kurds
You can see it here http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Zaza_people&oldid=437367876
And I did this because the only two sources I know which give any numbers are Paul Ludwig (who is also one of the main sources of the whole article!) and Van bruinessen ( a ethnologist). The first Paul Ludwig talks about Most Zaza considering themselves as Kurds and their languages as a kurdish dialect. And Van bruinessen talks about all Zazas. The only Reason why I edited this article the first time was, that it says, "many Zaza consider themselves as Kurds" While the only two Sources giving numbers talk about "Most" or "All". I would be fine with it when the article is changed into "the large majority of Zaza consider themselves ethnically as Kurds" (large majority because one source talks about all and another about most) Wikisupporting ( talk) 22:21, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
takabeg don´t tell me that there are various "theses" about the ethnicity of Zaza. Just show me sources which provide that their is a larger community of Zaza only considering themselves as a Zaza nation Wikisupporting ( talk) 22:05, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello! I thought you might have helpful insight on the current nomination for a Tibetan naming contention. I don't think the topic requires any particular expertise on Tibetan since the proposal must fit within established guidelines. I think the discussion would benefit from your evaluation and advice. If you have a moment, please have a look. Thanks! JFHJr ( ㊟) 04:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, I've left a question for you on Talk:Madang languages If all you had was Ross (2005), how did you know about this classification, which doesn't appear in it? Alternately, if you have the unpublished (1996) manuscript from which this material is drawn, why didn't you cite it? 128.208.76.85 ( talk) 22:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
In light of the seemingly endless disputes over their respective titles, a neutral mediator has crafted a proposal to rename the two major abortion articles ( pro-life/anti-abortion movement, and pro-choice/abortion rights movement) to completely new names. The idea, which is located here, is currently open for opinions. As you have been a contributor in the past to at least one of the articles, your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.
The hope is that, if a consensus can be reached on the article titles, the energy that has been spent debating the titles of the articles here and here can be better spent giving both articles some much needed improvement to their content. Please take some time to read the proposal and weigh in on the matter. Even if your opinion is simple indifference, that opinion would be valuable to have posted.
To avoid accusations that this posting violates WP:CANVASS, this posting is being made to every non-anon editor who has edited either page since 1 July 2010, irrespective of possible previous participation at the mediation page. HuskyHuskie ( talk) 19:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
For this. Drmies ( talk) 18:08, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Would I be right in assuming that what 19th century historians and linguists refer to as "Assyrian", would be in fact the Akkadian language, rather than the Aramaic spoken by modern assyrian people? ΔΥΝΓΑΝΕ ( talk) 22:17, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Xuancheng dialect. Since you had some involvement with the Xuancheng dialect redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). –– 虞海 (Yú Hǎi) ✍ 13:49, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, since you contributed to the debate on whether divination is the most appropriate term to define astrology in the first sentence, I wanted to let you know that I have asked for a straw poll on the astrology discussion page to find out whether we should seek alternatives (without specifying the wording at this stage) or we should keep divination. Robert Currey talk 17:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I saw the new article you created on "sulcalization". Is "sulcalized" just a fancy way of saying "grooved" for fricatives, etc. then? That's what it seems to be. Thank you. 208.104.45.20 ( talk) 16:41, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I can't understand why you did this. You may are right for all but two things: the changes on the European groups and the erasure of the Finno-Ugric subgroup of the Uralic peoples. Ok I see the meaning of ethnolinguistics has nothing to do with skin colour, and I agree, allthough I think the case was other here, ancestry. What about the people of European ancestry residing in the New World for exaple? What about the English-speaking American citizens of German ancestry, Italian ancestry etc? Where should they be included? In the meantime, by that edit of yours, a gap has been created as you didn't change the numbers and the current numbers correspond not to the population of European ethnolinguistic groups in the world but in Europe. I suggest you undo this edit or at least find another solution on how to include the English-speaking European majority of the USA, Canada and Australia or the Spanish-speaking European majority of Latin America etc in this article. A proposal I can make is adding the population of German Americans, German Canadians, German Australians, German New Zealanders, German Latin Americans and German Africans to Ethnic Germans; that of Italian Americans, Italian Canadians, Italian Australians, Italian New Zealanders, Italian Latin Americans and Italian Africans to Italian People and so on and so forth... It may be that the majority of them does not speak German or Italian or their respective ancestral language but don't forget it is ethnolinguistic, it's about ancestry, too. What do you think? If you have a better idea just let me know. If a good solution to the problem can't be fined then I think we should simply revert it to the previous one, because as I said before, it was not that wrong, having in mind ancestry has to do with ethnolinguistics. Warm regards. -- 109.242.75.41 ( talk) 18:04, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
Hi Kwami, I was wondering if you would have access to enough sources to finish a 5x expansion of Anal language. I am nominating Anal people for the April Fools DYK, and I think it would be nice if their language were expanded enough as well. I've tried my best, but I'm still short 800 chars. Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 09:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, sorry to bother you again so soon. Could you possibly delete 6 revisions of Wikipedia talk:Local Embassy, starting from this version and ending at this one? A user posted his/her name and email address. Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 17:06, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Can you please review (and repair as necessary) the mess that the current reviewer of this article, ChrisRuvolo ( t), has been making. Not only is he dictatorial, but I honestly have to wonder about his competence and how he was chosen for this status.
This is the second time now that, in the process of reverting multiple editors' edits, he has left behind the same duplication of information, namely in this case, the "State Parks" and "State-owned historical sites" subsections. Not only that, he's deleted the primary body of the "See also" content TWICE now, obviously without realizing it. It's either his way or the highway, and the article has clearly suffered as a result.
Thanks. 96.242.217.91 ( talk) 19:22, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Certainly, that is the usual course - but in this case, the problem is that the apparent brashness of this editor and his style, as well as my own questions about his competence, make that difficult to even approach. I'm open to that suggestion, but do you have any other suggestions, based on the edits themselves? 96.242.217.91 ( talk) 01:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Little Mountain 5 22:46, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwami,
It is now over weeks since the Zaza People article was protected. And since then in my opinion the wrong version was saved because the User with whom I had a contend issue has not shown any Sources in the discussion block of the article.
I on the other hand posted (I think) enough Sources which support my claims. See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zaza_people#a_couple_sources
Also the part which was dealing with the ethnogenesis, which I had added was removed.
I could post now any single Sources which considers Zaza as Kurds but I think in the link to the discussion block there are enough sources.
Just one I have to add. You need a account to read on were stands other sub dialects are....
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/325225/Kurdish-language
The thing is no single ethnologist or linguist ever claimed that Zaza are ethnically not Kurds.
Like I mentioned Ludwig Paul, one of the main sources of the Article, points out that the linguistic issue shouldn´t be taken in account by searching for the ethnic identity of Kurds and that Zaza and Kurmanji speaking Kurds build a ethnic unity. The whole problem with Zazaki being classified as "not Kurdish" is, That the linguist refer to a special dialect of Kurdish which is known as Kurmanji as "Kurdish". And when they say Zazaki is not "Kurdish" they mean Kurmanji. You can read it in Paul Ludwigs book. It is written in German but it is obvious that he refers to Kurmanji as "Kurdish" and he also mentions this. No Kurd is claiming that Zazaki is a dialect of Kurmanji.
How ever I don´t even want to argue about this. The only thing I want to change is the part with "Many " into most or large majority because this is support by Sources but there are no sources which support the contrary. And I also want to add the part with ethnogenesis and will quote everything what Paul Ludwig writes in his book about this. Wikisupporting ( talk) 01:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Ok thats why I will not mentioned that they are Kurds as if it is a "evidence" but maybe I will quote parts of sources which consider Zaza ethnically as Kurds and also mention according to who. Like I did with Paul Ludwig I quoted him.
However I still don´t think that there is even a reason to discuss about the ethnic identity of Zaza because from Sources it gets obvious that the large majority are Kurds(consider themselves as such) and where considered as such since millennia. This is all a discussion which started recently due the fact that some linguist consider Kurmanji which is spoken by the majority of Kurds as "kurdish" and so they mean Kurmanji when they speak about Zazaki being not Kurdish.
Well I have already edited the article but no where mentioned that Zaza are Kurds or not. However I have changed parts where there is a talk about "Zaza and Kurds" as if it is proven that both are separated groups. Regards Wikisupporting ( talk) 03:05, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Kwami, do you think this edit was appropriate or not? Linguistic Science ( talk) 22:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hi - not quite sure what you're asking. The Fali people live in Cameroon and Nigeria, as the references indicate. Neutrality talk 18:40, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Please do not re-add unsourced material here. If such calculations can be attributed to reliable sources the those soucres should be cited and the material added without problem. Other than that, we are not interested in any figures you have calculated yourself: that is original research and therefore impermissible. Among other things, this article is currently under discussion for a main page feature in the in the news section: articles with serious quality issues such as the presence of OR are automatically barred from consideration. Crispmuncher ( talk) 00:43, 21 July 2011 (UTC).
The paragraph that you're so adamant about readding for some reason is completely unsourced (except for the rebuttal). -- 134.10.113.198 ( talk) 16:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwami.
I think this might interest you. Here is the block of the User Takabeg. it seems he did not only start a edit war with me. He does it with everything what might be against his turkish views. Be it Armenian or be it Kurdish. As a Adming please take a better look at this User. Something is very weird about him. It seems He edits things even before they are resolved simply to get a ban on the article. He works with System. He removes every Sources WITHOUT a Reason given just like he did with mine even while I asked him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Disruptive_editing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Adding_unreferenced_banner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Armenian_placenames_in_Turkey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Refs_removed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Tughra_edit_war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Vankli
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Anti-Kurdish_vandalism
I am still asking my self how a user, provoking closing of articles and obviously most of them at Kurdish and Armenian articles, can still work like if nothing happened. (You might know the relation between Kurds,Armenians and Turkey.)
If you don´t know about Turkeys anti Kurdish work on the Internet you might read this if you want. The part with "many Zaza" is copied by the former Wikipedia version of the "Zaza People" article.
And recently a man which was arrested in the "Ergenekon trial" (Ergenekon is a group of People working in high positions of the Turkish state) came out as one of the provocateurs working on the Net claiming themselves as Zazas and making Propaganda on Internet Sites and also Encyclopedias like Wikipedia.
http://www.haberdiyarbakir.com/news_detail.php?id=41870
greets Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:15, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Well than you really seem to have been in the East. The Kids throwing Stones at foreigners. Well I know what you mean. Some Children in such rural Regions are ill-mannered and they usually don´t trust foreigners. Who should blame them for that while they have only seen oppressions and killings. You should visit Iraqi Kurdistan it is a beautiful place.
About the warnings for you to stay away from East because terrorist might kill you. Well I ask my self were those who told you this in the near of Turks or somehow worked for them or with them? It also depends on what they meant with terrorist. Kurds usually mean some people else.
The Turkish education system unfortunately is very nationalistic. The People learn it in this way. Kurdish children are forced day by day before school begin to sing the Turkish national anthem and say how proud Turkish they are, how proud they are to serve Turkey and such things. Turkey solves its problems by wiping them out or ignoring them this is the main problem. Greets Wikisupporting
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I see you have recently made this move. The naming issue was discussed on the talk page, and Sabela is neither a term from the Huaorani themselves, nor in frequent recent usage. If you have reason to suspect otherwise, please bring it to the talk page rather than moving first.-- Carwil ( talk) 19:18, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, could you kindly explain this edit at article: Kannada? You can respond here, I'll have this page on watch. Thanks. - Niri M / ನಿರಿ 08:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Kwami
There's a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(ships)#Punctuation_and_ship_classes that I think you should know about. Yours, Shem ( talk) 20:12, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they didn't read the article, so stop the ad hominems and let's work toward resolving this. I've opened up a conversation on the talk page, instead of reverting your latest edit, and invite you to join. VI WS talk 21:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
These are not my 'opinions', they are logical facts which the page itself refers to & I also tagged a reference with the edit. Actually instead of asking me to the talk page to "first discuss" after reverting, was a bad idea since you not agreeing with my edit already means that we should go to talk: WP:Don't revert due to "no consensus".
Anyway, already added a discussion on the bottom of the talk page of the article under a relevant topic which you appear not to have noticed. Hope to resolve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hassanhn5 ( talk • contribs) 01:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
That being said, "first discuss" is still a 'not helpful' option as mentioned in WP:Don't revert due to "no consensus" which I happened to see after reading WP:BOLD. Logic here means consistency, which is an essential part of the informative writing. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 01:42, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
I was having some difficulty setting up the username with certain symbols due to which there was such inconvenience. As for the term being "used" and not "invented" by Gandhi, the edit I made itself included the reference tag. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 01:45, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Since you keep on repeating, it was actually referenced. The edit had a tag to main Hindi-Urdu controversy. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 01:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
My reference was to the modern day subcontinent while talking of the bias.
The controversy article was already well linked, hence the addition was supported.
Since the discussion is bending more towards the article, it would be easier to continue it along on the article discussion page. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 02:06, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
I've added relevant references to this topic & also justified them on talk page. Unless you have any references against it, you shouldn't revert. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 18:46, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
You are really prejudiced against my point of view, claiming from the start every thing as my opinion, those references are 'reliably accepted' on other wikipedia articles. And they proved that India, Pakistan & Bangladesh don't form Hindustan (something which you were so bent on saying) hence supporting my point of bias. Since you are too busy to reply to any comments on the talk page and yet afraid of a silent consensus, I'm putting up WP:NPOV dispute tag so that other users can resolve the dispute. Donot remove the tag in disregard of the guidelines (since there is a dispute). -- lTopGunl ( talk) 12:11, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
As before you've again distorted my comment to your own accord (if you read it at all). It was to prove Pakistan not being a part of Hindustan anymore. They are not the same since 1947. Continuing to call them the same is the stupid thing to do. That's where the bias comes. You make wrong claims and continue to justify them by labeling my point of view as a mere opinion even where you are given references. Also since you yourself are calling it a POV war, that calls it a dispute and the fact that you simply don't like my point of view will not completely erase the dispute itself. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 12:53, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, I see your name around a lot but don't think we've interacted much. I keep a number of "odd" pages on my Watchlist, and as I was drinking my first cup of coffee this morning, I noticed you had changed the article " T" with the edit summary: "the "proto-Semitic alphabet" is not historical or academic, but theological, and so does not belong here. After reviewing Proto-Semitic language it seemed that your edit (and summary) were well intentioned, but not technically correct, so I reverted with an explanatory edit summary. It wasn't until afterwards that I realized you had made the same change to the rest of the alphabet articles. Given your standing and experience as an editor, I'm not about to engage in wholesale reversion of your work. Instead, I'm coming here to ask if I'm missing something? Linguistics is only a minor interest of mine, not an area of specialty, so I'm open to the idea that maybe I'm just wrong :) Doc Tropics 13:15, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Did you discuss the mass moving of script pages with anyone? This seems to have come out of nowhere, and this kind of major naming change should only happen as a result of a consensus. I know this wasn't discussed at WikiProject Writing systems, so if you did discuss it somewhere, nobody pointed you where it should have happened. Please put a link to whatever discussions took place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Writing systems#Article mass move. VI WS talk 23:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
I changed the name to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Writing systems#Naming consistency, because we might as well develop those principles while we're thinking about them. VI WS talk 00:21, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Kwami, I hope this finds you well. I have a question about something on the Talk:Ten_Commandments page, in the present bottom section called "Can we lift the page protection? Will some sysop help us out?" Your message is presently 3rd up from the bottom, and the reply immediately below yours addressed to you says in part, "I am glad you approve the proposal." I can't figure out what that refers to. Perhaps something in another section? Looking for your clarification there. Thanks. — Telpardec ( talk) 00:24, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your help.
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Unfortunately, given that you have continued to move articles relating to WikiProject Writing Systems, despite there being an active review of naming conventions, I have asked for administrative assistance at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#Bulk moving of scripts relating to WikiProject Writing systems. I had hoped that by purposefully not reverting the original edits, which I considered disruptive, that it would have inspired in-kind restraint on your part, but that appears to have failed. I'm sorry that you feel my efforts to have not deserved the respect that I have tried to show you. In sorrow, VI WS talk
Hi Kwamikagami. You've moved Mandombe script to Mandombe alphabet, but Mandombe is not an alphabet. -- Mᴏʏᴏɢᴏ/ ⁽ᵗᵃˡᵏ⁾ 08:50, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Sir. I don't appreciate you accusing me of adding ads to Wikipedia, or threatening me with an unwarranted block. I never added any adds to the Azores pages, or any page since I have been editing on Wikipedia, and your false accusation was unjustifiable. What I did do was revert the usage of a image on the Azores page that was inappropriate. The fact that I may have reverted a spamming IP user does not make ME the IP User. You will notice that my edits have all been content inspired, and I have reverted spammers and IP user malicious editing in the past. What I am guilty of doing is not looking deeper into edit history, before reverting content, which ironically, is the case with your post on my talk page. I simple email would have probably resulted in a apology on my part, and quick edit to resolve the discrepancy. Ruben JC (Zeorymer) ( talk) 14:30, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Dear Mr.Kwamikagami, Hi!, On 31/7/2011, you have changed the name of article from "Khudabadi Script" to "Khudabadi alphabets" which is highly objectionable. If you see any article or texts about Sindhi Language, the description of this article is given as "Khudabadi Script" and not "Khudabadi alphabets". Further, please note that the text of the article ia about the script and not about the alphabates. Therefore it is requested to revert back the name of title of this article to "Khudabadi Script". Thanks. Gespee ( talk) 16:51, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Kwamikagami_mass_renaming_script_pages_to_alphabet_pages.2C_when_they_are_not_alphabets - The final thing was your deletion of a dab page without discussion. Bogdan Nagachop ( talk) 17:26, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I wanted to let you know there is a user who has doubled the size of the Romance languages. Some of the info he added might be relevant and useful to the article, but there is also too much "rubbish", which makes it difficult to follow. I was wondering if anyone could have a look at all these changes, and clean it up a bit. Thanks in advance. Jɑυмe ( xarrades) 17:54, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
see Talk:Yoruba language. -- Mᴏʏᴏɢᴏ/ ⁽ᵗᵃˡᵏ⁾ 09:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
There use to be an article called Aspirate and I was wondering why you merged this into Aspirated consonant. I thought it was legitimate to have this article seperate from Aspirated consonant but unfortunately I can't find it in the history to determine if this is the case or not now. There are some languages that have aspirates that occur at at the end of a phoneme and not with initially. I think it is called 'final aspirate'. Or maybe I'm using the term aspirate incorrectly. Would you know what a final H is called? In Indic scripts there is a diacritic that adds this to letter clusters to produce [h] at the end. I'm not sure what the proper term for the sound it adds is called. The best term I can think of is 'aspirate' but this disambiguates into Aspirated Consonant. -- Dara ( talk) 02:07, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami
Please do the following:
Regards Martinvl ( talk) 11:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I've asked on the talk page if this is what people want. It's not clear to me from the discussion that it is, but neither is it clear that it isn't. — kwami ( talk) 18:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your formatting, etc. for the article I started, Nimi language. I live in Japan, but I write various language articles. Bruinfan12 ( talk) 00:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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Could you sort out the pronunciation at Noel Gayler? The NYT obit mentioned his name was pronounced GUY-ler. Thanks. Connormah ( talk) 19:44, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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I hope the script story will have a happy end :-) Bogdan Nagachop ( talk) 21:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC) |
Kwami, please see my reply to your recent post at my talkpage. Noetica Tea? 06:29, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami, I strongly object to the use of 'Maharashtra Konkani' for the purpose of dab, because the Ethnologue also gives an alternate name as 'Konkani Mangalorean'. Mangalore is in Karnataka which is a different state from Maharashtra. 'Maharashtra Konkani' would basically be Konkani dialect (Marathi) while 'Konkani Mangalorean' would basically be Karnataka Konkani or Canara Konkani. For this reason, I have started a discussion at the Konkani talk page as I mentioned in the edit summary. Unless you can provide a good reason, I am going to undo your changes in a few hours time.
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Talk:ISO_15924:Arab#Move Bogdan Nagachop ( talk) 13:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Adding some common transliteration characters to the Arabic character-insert tool which appears under the edit box could be a good idea. However, the list includes ǧ, which is not part of standard English-language transcriptions of the Arabic language, and whose use to transcribe Arabic words should not be encouraged (unless perhaps in a very limited way to transcribe Egyptian-dialect forms only). I would highly recommend the removal of ǧ. Thanks... AnonMoos ( talk) 20:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
@ kwami — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.227.211.21 ( talk) 16:28, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
I see that Ling.Nut requested his user pages be deleted. Could you possibly restore the start of the "Third Battle of Dalton" article that was at User:Ling.Nut/Sandbox2 to my user space? Ling.Nut and I had discussed collaborating on it a couple months ago — see the last 2 bullets here. It's on my ToDo list and it would be a shame to lose it. Thanks. Mojoworker ( talk) 19:02, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami. Eskimo peoples are Yupik peoples and Inuit peoples. The page Yupik people is mixed page! This is not true! The page Yup'ik for only Central Alaskan Yup'ik language speaking people! But, the page Yupik for all Central Alaskan Yup'ik language, Naukan Yupik language, Siberian Yupik language and Alutiiq language speaking peoples: Siberian Yupik people, Alutiiq people. Would you please look The pages Yup'ik (Central Alaskan Yup'ik language speaking people) and Yupik (Eskimo languages [excluded Inuit languages] speaking peoples). Why merged ? Not merged, not merged, not merged, please not merged. Best regards -- Kmoksy ( talk) 23:22, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
You recently deleted User:Ling.Nut/User DGAF as part of what appears to be a WP:VANISH request. I was wondering if you could recreate and userfy it to User:Cerejota/User DGAF. I was rather found of this user box, and sad to see it go. In addition, can you recreated the redirect that what speedy deleted at Template:User DGAF and point it at User:Cerejota/User DGAF. Thank you!-- Cerejota ( talk) 10:05, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
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Talk:ISO 15924:Latn#Move. Bogdan Nagachop ( talk) 11:38, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Added 'nowrap' to the IPA template. However, a side effect is that unused alts show up as thin line breaks.
For the clicks, we might want separate tables for plain, voiced, and nasal (as we do for other C's). Then we'd have only one letter per line, and wouldn't need 'nowrap'. (Done) — kwami ( talk) 21:57, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
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00:17, 14 August 2011 (UTC)Hi Kwami, I and user:Xyzzyva are having a trouble with a newcomer user, user:Strawberry on Vanilla, recently Xyzzyva added an IPA transcription on these pages, and got reverted by Strawberry, which made other non IPA transcription as in Botafogo de Futebol e Regatas, and wrong transcriptions as in Santos FC, Xyzzyva tried talk to him, but he just ignored and not answered, and I also tried revert him to the previous edit by Xyzzyva, but I also got reverted. As you are a sysop, I'd like to know from you the best way to proceed.-- Luizdl ( talk) 03:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I notice the we have both been undoing the of Zhuang by 虞海, however he continues to put them back in. I have tried talking to him but with no effect. What is the best next step? Johnkn63 ( talk) 10:28, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Kwamikagami. You as Administrator are a specialist in linguistic articles. What about Wisco2000 ( talk · contribs) latest massive disruptive edits on Old Church Slavonic, aided by vandalism despite my warnings? Regards. Jingby ( talk) 18:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
OK! You are right. I have hoped, he should stop his blind reverts by viewing was the reliable sources clearly and simply says. But I was wrong. Jingby ( talk) 19:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi again. I suppose this guy 173.79.160.88 ( talk · contribs), who has appeared immediately after the block of User:Wisco2000 is his sock. He has the same target, Bulgarian - Macedonian ethnic relation and the same blind-revert behaviour as the blocked one. I do not know, what to do with him! Jingby ( talk) 19:41, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Kwamikagami. This is the real sock BenFranklinPhilly ( talk · contribs). Jingby ( talk) 05:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Thak you. Jingby ( talk) 06:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Excuse me Kwami, could you please, take a look at the nationalistic activity of Lunch for Two ( talk · contribs). Thank you. Jingby ( talk) 09:49, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
I have edited the page. I have tried to follow the WP Standards. In regards to people, simply "Macedonian" has been replaced by "Ethnic Macedonian" (where this is the intention), per WP policy. I have left "Macedonian language" (as calling this is also WP policy and there is no other form of Macedonian language). I have replaced "Macedonian nationals" with "ethnic Macedonians" (as it includes people from Australia, Canada, etc.). I have replaced "recognition of Slavs" with "recognition of ethnic Macedonians" (they were recognised as "Macedonians" or "Slavo-Macedonians", but per WP policy I have put in the "ethnic" tag). I have changed "Macedonian minority" to "ethnic Macedonian minority". I have left "other Macedonian minorities", I think that the reasoning for this is straightforward, however I don't object to other ethnic Macedonian minorities. Take a look, I have a feeling that I have disambiguated "Macedonian" across the entirety of the page. Lunch for Two ( talk) 15:12, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
This guy obviously is nationalist and shell by blocked, but I do not unedrstand how is he reverting Admin without consensus and against the ARBCOM decisions. No reliable sourses, no consensus, against ARBCOM! How is this posible? Jingby ( talk)
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I have no sources, so it can be deleted due to WP:NOR, but as a native speaker I can confirm that Turkish has two different e's which aren't reflected in orthography and learned by listening. "sen" is pronounced like /sæn/. — amateur ( talk)
All I used at Google was <turkish vowel allophones> and I got a confirmation. It wasn't specific, but "amateur" is seconded by a Turk linguist. Congratulations. The passage does not say whether the conditioning of the variation is lexical or phonological. The text is a book in English, Balpinar, Turkish phonology, morphology, and syntax. See pp. 38-39. There are two vowel phonemes with three allophones, /ɛ, a/. Balpinar claims that some speakers lack the [æ] allophone. Maybe GN Lewis, Turkish Grammar, gave the details; I forget. This clue leads us to enhance the search string to . . . "three allophones". The answers are provided by Göksel and Kerslake, Turkish: a comprehensive grammar, p. 10. [æ] occurs before /l m n r/ in closed syllables; [ɛ] occurs in word final position; [e] elsewhere. There is an additional condition they mention. They do not acknowledge that some speakers have only two allophones. Conceivably, they have explicitly undertaken to describe a certain variety of the language which is a three allophone variety. Check the preface. Dale Chock ( talk) 08:18, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
In the dyadic kinship article no mention is made of how it relates to social deixis. Also another Angan language, Simbari, also has dyadic kinship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.200.60.230 ( talk) 02:22, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
I am rather concerned that a user has made and is editing large numbers of articles related to Transylvania to remove Hungarian elements from them [5]. Individually all the edits can probably be defended. Please could you have a look. We have all the problems of Ukrainian nationalist extremists deleting names they do not like from articles on places in Ukraine; this looks similar - but from a Romanian nationalist extremist POV. I would value a second opinion on this.-- Toddy1 ( talk) 13:45, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
So I decided to ask, Have we included the work of Théophile Obenga in any of the African sections? I am not familiar with why some people have issue with his classification. As it is not my 1st subject I wonder how this might be included in African language sections (If not there already). Cheers.-- Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ ( talk) 17:33, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Kwami, you should know after 10 or so years on Wikipedia that controversial moves should go through WP:RM, or at least after an extensive discussion on the talk page. As far as I can see, you moved Cyrillic alphabet to Cyrillic script and Category:Cyrillic alphabet to Category:Cyrillic script without a word of discussion, and now you're using AWB to recategorize all the articles. That is not cool. Please stop using AWB and open a discussion. No such user ( talk) 06:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
I acknowledge that renaming an article is called "moving" it at Wikipedia. Anyway, I have just expanded a stub, Fertit people. As I point out there, there is no such thing. Therefore, the article should be renamed. Since you have edited it and since you are a major "logistical" or "administrative" editor of language and anthropology articles, I would like to let you know that I propose to rename it "Dar Fertit", because that is a term that, according to the histories, has been in use for close to three centuries, right down to the present. This makes it notable, even though it is a vague term with little social and political substance.
The stub "Fertit people" has an interesting lack of history. Essentially, its content has not changed in the five years since it was created. Until today, it had not been edited at all for a year.
I intend to add more footnotes. I do not think the topic merits much more length than what it has now. My research suggests that people use the name simply because it's been used for a long time. To discuss this would be as worthwhile as discussing the substance of the term. Hurmata ( talk) 07:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
All right...let's try this...
Since you said you are studying on this sort of thing, can you give me an IPA for this?: Santos Futebol Clube
Strawberry on Vanilla ( talk) 02:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
1- Estádio Urbano Caldeira 2- Vila Belmiro
Thanks. Strawberry on Vanilla ( talk) 22:39, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Would you please add the Interwikis in the Articles you create?-- 84.57.62.139 ( talk) 08:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
I've just noticed that the German article de:Eskimo-aleutische Sprachen mentions a proposed genetic connection between Eskimo-Aleut and Wakashan, apparently argued for in an introduction to Eskimo-Aleut by Holst (2005). I thought you would be interested to learn about this. It would be nice if the articles on Eskimo-Aleut, Wakashan and Indigenous languages of the Americas mentioned this proposal, but I don't have the book and this issue would seem to be more in your own field of competence anyway, so I thought you might want to take care of this. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 14:50, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
I was wandering why you said nsibidi is not a writing system on the Igbo language article when the same page mentions it as a writing system, and the article for nsibidi is categorised under writing systems. And just overall, it's considered and ideographic writing system. Also, I added back the largest Igbo dialects that are usually mentioned in publishings. Ukabia - talk 15:29, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I noticed that Meliti is still protected. I posted a comment on the talk page over a week ago in good faith, it seems that those persons who were constantly reverting me are nowhere to be seen now and have not taken up my offer to talk the issues out (I imagine however they will be quick to revert though). I wish to make a few edits on the page, what is the best course of action to take? Thanks. Lunch for Two ( talk) 13:21, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Please review and comment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)
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Hey. You make nice edits here on Wikipedia. Something tells me you would be a nice contributor at drobos13 as well, which is a unique discussion environment where everything is pre-moderated and everyone is anonymous in public. It also has a very usable interface and has had over 11 years of R&D put into it. You would be part of the initial crowd of early adopters and be able to really get your voice heard. Please at least consider it and note that this was sent by a human being, manually, rather than some sort of automated bulk spam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rattlemake ( talk • contribs) 07:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Hey Kwami. Every time I visit a random obscure linguistics page, I invariably see you listed in the history, usually with some sort of formatting (e.g. AWB) change. Most recently I saw you in Southern Athabascan grammar. I'm impressed -- and curious what your "algorithm" is for visiting these pages. Do you surf randomly (but vigorously)? Do you search for interesting things and check out the relevant pages? Do you do a systematic scan of pages in certain categories? Do you have some ginormous watch list? (Or all of the above?) Benwing ( talk) 23:51, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami, I'm Zack, from Arabic Wikipedia. I was wondering if you could help me on this one: In the Arabic version of Edittools unlike the English one, when you switch between 'Insert' and 'Wiki Markup' for example, using not the mouse but the downward pointing arrow, the content does not appear unless you press Enter. Any idea what to do? -- Zack ( talk) 04:58, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm doing it here but I'm getting the same: no content unless I hit enter. I guess that's how it's designed. Could it be customisable? I don't know. You'd have to get hold of one of the developers. JIMp talk· cont 19:01, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
you should close the Zaza People article again. There has started another edit war. And I am really tired of this and that the User Takabeg is harassing me on my talk site with Wikipedia rules while he is removing my comments from the articles Discussions site.
My request please use a older Version of the article before the edits between me and Takabeg and close the article.
Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:47, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Could you revert User:Wikisupporting edition you restored before protecting the Zaza people article, because it was precisely his/her edition done by an ethnocentric point of view, which contains POV materials, using reference which does not correspond to the content. And more seriously, apart from POV material, the user is erasing other academically referenced sources about different theories. Thank you. Menikure ( talk) 18:43, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Ethnocentic point of view? Seriously now. Takabeg has no right in editing the whole article into his turkish centric point of view.
1. Uses Van Bruinessen as source, mention that according to him some Zaza have started to consider themselves as a different ethnic group, but why don´t mention that their number is very very small and is in fact only a phenomena among "Exilromantics" this is how he use to call them. He doesen´t even mentionso him that still virtually all Zaza consider themselves as Kurds and permanently edits everything going into this direction while 3 sources at ones confirm this. Another thing surprisingly no other complained about this. Neither the Users Amadoni, Wesar, Sagapane, two of them Zaza nor any other User. Surprisingly just new Users "known" by Takabeg complain about this. And just to make it clear my version was different I even tried out Takabegs Version and only added some fact which are also mentioned in the sources. But Takabeg of course couldn´t stand any mention about how the Zaza consider themselves. http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Zaza_people&action=historysubmit&diff=446011171&oldid=445989523 The only Problem the User Takabeg and his colleagues, or his own other IPs have, is the mentioning that the Zaza mainly consider themselves as Kurds. And while Takabeg was the one who did involve the User Kwamikagami into this, now Kwamigami is not "neutral" enough and deceived by me. ironically the last edit was made by established member Amadoni and not me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Zaza_people But of course that User Takabeg is known almost by any Admin for permanent edit warring is not important. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Takabeg#Medes
I am going to stay out of this. I really don´t have any more nerves for this permanent edit wars. So my own request is, after some weeks when the locking is over. The article should be protected from non Admin editors and new created by Admins. Means no one not me nor Takabeg should be allowed to edit the article. This should be made by chosen Admins. Or if not possible, the article should be removed. Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:03, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I am willing to stay out of this. This is my effort because it is almost impossible to come to a conclusion with Takabeg, a User who made so many edit wars on different Articles. Mainly Kurdish, Armenian, Turkish related ones. My only request is that the User Takabeg should not be allowed to work on this article. It should be closed and worked out by admins or removed fully. If the User Takabeg still goes on in editing the article. Wikisupporting ( talk) 14:19, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Kwami. I was also involved in editing Zaza article on different Wikipedia versions, were other People were involved too. Surprisingly we could come to a conclusion and made the article, even though not perfect, at least close to reality. All of the involved Users agreed on the fact, that Van Bruinessen is one of the least Sources who is not politically motivated. When we see Van Bruinessens work, we see this facts. 1. The idea of being a separate group, is only present among a small Group of "Exilromantics". 2. The Zaza were traditionally and are still usually considered as Kurds. 3. Virtually all Zaza consider themselves as Kurds and reject strictly the Idea of being a separate ethnic group. 4. The Zaza language might not be classified by some specialized sources not as Kurdish(used as synonym for Kurmanji which is only one of the Kurdish languages) anymore, but still a very close language to it. The definition of what is Kurdish and not is only based on the own ethnic definition of the Group. And we read that according to Van Bruinessen they do consider their language as a Kurdish dialect. 5. Also very important. In Van Bruinessens schooled eyes. It seems more like a "inner Kurdish" conflict than a Zaza-Kurdish separate one. He mentions and what is the reality. There are as much "other Kurds" who consider themselves as Turks or define their ethnic identity by religious denomination. Means when there are Zaza who consider themselves as non Kurds, those mainly don´t do this because they believe that Zaza are a non ethnic Kurdish group but because they define themselves by religious Groups to which they belong. In other words, a Zaza Alevi feels much closer to an Kurmanj Alevi as he would feel to a Sunni Zaza. So according to Van Bruinessen The Kurds (in which he includes the Zaza) could be separated into 3 Groups not based on linguistics but religious believes. Like "Alevi, Sunni, Yezidi".
You can read it here. http://www.hum.uu.nl/medewerkers/m.vanbruinessen/publications/Bruinessen_Ethnic_identity_Kurds.pdf And now please compare this to the Version of takabeg and you will see the sparsely selected parts of this wonderful work. The only thing he really took out. "According to Van Bruinessen some Zaza have started to consider themselves as a distinct ethnic Group". He took out the part which became the least importance by Van Bruinessen and mentioned it as if this was the most important part.
All other Sources believe it are somehow politically motivated. Be it Pro or Contra Kurdish. And this cant be that much compared to other disputed articles. The Zaza Article on Wikipedia is Used by Turkish Media, like TV and Newspapers as a source to brainwash the People and to tell them as what they should consider themselves. Thats why my request don´t let non admin Users edit this Article. Asking Dougweller is a good Idea. Of course only if he wants Wikisupporting ( talk) 15:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Menikure, but at the same time the only sources pointing out the number of Zaza who consider themselves as Kurds, confirm all that the large majority to virtually all consider themselves as Kurds. And this was not added. It is impossible to come to an conclusion if both sides have such different views. And I don´t understand why you do insist that normal Users should be allowed to edit the article. Are you not convinced that the Admins could make a "unpolitical" article which does not suit your believes? Do you fear something?. My request stands to block this article and only let it be edited by Admins. I don´t fear anything because I am convinced that non political motivated versions made by Admins will come much closer to the reality than version made by unknown Persons. Wikisupporting ( talk) 15:13, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I noticed a recent edit in which you moved a pronunciation from the lede to the person infobox. I can't find the relevant guidelines in the MoS. Could you point the way? Considering the percentage of my edits this would effect, I'd like to do it right... — ˈzɪzɨvə ( talk) 18:49, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi. You deleted User talk:Ling.Nut2 under CSD U1. As far as I can see, that criterion specifically and explicitly excludes user talk pages. Mistake? -- MZMcBride ( talk) 20:14, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#comet_names, regarding a few moves that you made back in May. -- Enric Naval ( talk) 11:54, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Your editing is being discussed at WP:ANI#Pronunciation. Prolog ( talk) 19:15, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Please modify map, you put Abu Salim as rebel-held on the Tripoli map, that was a bit premature. BBC and Al Jazeera reported today that fighting is still ongoing there [6] [7]. Thank you. EkoGraf ( talk) 13:37, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Wrong, the source says the area is surrounded by the rebels, nothing about it being captured. They only said that they belive Gaddafi is in the district. Quoting the rebel spokesman The area where he is now is under siege. Please make the appropriate change. Fighting is still ongoing in Abu Salim according to both BBC and Al Jazeera. EkoGraf ( talk) 16:38, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, sorry, didn't realize the two sentences were related to one another and covered by the same source, makes more sense now, thanks! Rainbowwrasse ( talk) 17:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Hiya. You're obviously keen on WP (as am I) & a prolific editor. And indeed an admin.- well done on both those aspects.
So it's disappointing you choose to generally it seems shun providing wp:ESs in Special:Contributions/Kwamikagami. May I ask why you shun them, esp. as you are an admin.?
Secondly, any thoughts on wp:archiving?
Reply here if you care, & I'll respond. Regards, Trafford09 ( talk) 12:05, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the replies.
So, you've slipped into what consensus would consider a bad habit, & it's more important to you &/or WP that your edits be prolific than following guidelines, regardless of your admin. status. Quantity outweighs quality, and it doesn't matter if it appears 'one rule for us & another for them', or 'do as we say, not as we do'.
Hmm - shouldn't you be setting a good example, if having admin. status matters to you?
wp:archiving suggests: "The talk page guidelines suggest archiving when the talk page exceeds 50 KB".
Your talk page is currently running at ~240 KB - that was my second point. Trafford09 ( talk) 12:23, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Since you were the last one who moved the page, about a year ago, I thought I'd alert you to a discussion at Talk:Shilha people. I haven't done any research myself into which name is used by sources, so I'm hearing advice from anyone with knowledge about the subject. Thanks in advance if you have any input to make. - GTBacchus( talk) 17:54, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
With all respect, your IPA at yoghurt is revealing that you haven't heard many Britis talk. The "r" in that word is totally unpronounceable for a Brit. Yngvadottir ( talk) 00:26, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
CalRis ( talk) 07:40, 30 August 2011 (UTC): Hello Kwamikagami!
You undid my contribution to the article Eris (dwarf planet) making clarifications concerning its orbit classification (and its possible resonance based on a simulation using old orbit data - I communicated with Mr. Dunn about it, and he acknowledged that using the latest orbit data it is not in a resonance). You give the following reason for your undo: "this is not my understanding as to what DO normally means: that's for things like Sedna, not Eris"
It may not be your understanding as to what detached object means, but it is certainly the understanding of Gladman et al. as presented in their paper Nomenclature in the Outer Solar System (Gladman et al. 2008 - you can download it here). The book it is part of - The Solar System Beyond Neptune - is a compendium of the state of knowledge about the TNOs as of 2008. So, a nomenclature in it is no idle talking but should be acknowledged in the respective Wikipedia articles.
According to 10 million years numerical integrations performed by Gladman et al., Eris is not at the present actively scattering off Neptune. Gladman et al. list Eris (together with Sedna) as a detached object. Read their paper for yourself. We cannot simply ignore this classification just because it is not your understanding.
As far as I can tell (and I have been reading a lot about Eris and TNOs) we are just experiencing a shift in nomenclature to a coherent nomenclature based on the "current shortterm dynamics rather than a belief about either where it will go in the future or what its past history was" (quote from Gladman et al. 2008).
As for the classifications assigned by the Minor Planet Center, these should be treated with cautious. I sent an e-mail to them and got the following answer from a Mr. Gareth V. William: "The MPC classifications, particularly in the outer solar system are broad classifications based on the osculating orbits, not on long-term integrations. [...] We consider "Centaur/SDO/ESDO" to be a continuum of objects, that differ only in q and a. [...] It was the intent the classifications of Gladman et al. be incorporated into our classfications but that has not yet happened."
Please revert your undo to activate my contribution or refer this matter to a higher authority.
Yours sincerely,
CalRis
Hello! With AWB your IPA edits have the edit summary "fix IPA". However, in at least some of your edits, they are not actually fixes; edits such as this and this just tag the out-written IPA's as dubious. It would be nice if you're willing to modify your edit summaries for such edits to indicate what you're actually doing. Thanks in advance, Hey Mid ( contribs) 20:03, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi dear Kwamikagami,
please could you help with the correct pronunciation of Tinchy Stryder`s real name Kwasi Danquah. As I can see you speak the Ghanian Twi language, my thought on the pronunciation of Kwasi Danquah was (Kwasi ----> Kway-si or Kwee-si ?) and then (Danquah ----> Dan-qwah or Dan-qoo-ah ?). Please if you can help me with the correct pronunciation if non of the above pronunciation's are correct and which one is correct if any of the pronunciation's above are correct. Thanks. Truex75 ( Talk) 00:30, 31 August 2011 UTC
Hi there Kwami,
I have been to do some research on YouTube and found a video of the name Kwasi being pronounced by some Ghanaian DJs one who is named Kwasi pee, and they pronounce the name Kwasi as (Kway-si) just as the IPA that I putted on Tinchy Stryder's article. The video Link is here ----> [9] and for the surname Danquah witch was pronounced as (dan-QWAH) when an American man is advertising a music record for a Ghanaian musician by the name of George Danquah, the video Link is here also ----> [10]. So please tell me what you think because I wanted to ask for your permission first to undo the IPA edit that you made since my thought on the correct pronounciation of Kwasi Danquah was a 100% correct in the first place, please let me know what we can do from here. Thanks. Truex75 ( Talk) 01:42, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Kwami! From your user page info you seem to be quite an expert on languages and writing systems. Could you please kindly look at this? Thx in advance!!! -- Nazar ( talk) 09:11, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
It seems correct to me. Newfoundlander&Labradorian ( talk) 14:26, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
For consistency, please note the desired capitalization of “X” in the moves from "Manual of Style (x)" to "Manual of Style/X”.
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I've been wondering why the MOSs are moved to their new names/style. Can you point me to a place where this was discussed? Thanks. – sgeureka t• c 09:07, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for doing these moves - please could you also do Wikipedia:Manual of Style (linking), which I overlooked yesterday?-- Kotniski ( talk) 09:19, 1 September 2011 (UTC)