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It results in the page landing in Category:Pages where expansion depth is exceeded.
You can see this in
this old revision of
Talk:Astoria–Ditmars Boulevard station, which was reverted with the
this edit. The call to {{
WikiProject Trains}} looks like this: {{WikiProject Trains |1= |class=Start |importance=low |NYPT=yes |NYPT-importance=mid |subway=yes |stations=yes}}
Even without the "shell" it has a template expansion depth of 37, which is right up against the limit of 40, as shown in the source-code view of the link to the reverted revision above. Search for Highest expansion depth: to find the parser profiling data. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 16:06, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
|NYPT=yes
is removed, I suspect that the problem is with {{
WPBannerMeta/hooks/cats}}
. But I don't see why {{
WikiProject banner shell}}
needs to be used for just two banners.Hi all, there is a new station planned called Nanjing North railway station ( source). How shall I go about naming the new article and the existing Nanjing North railway station article? I've had a quick look for other station articles in the same area with the same name, but haven't found any yet. Thanks NemesisAT ( talk) 14:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
|language=
and |trans-title
parameters to those reference in the article on the new station and fill them in?
Mjroots (
talk)
19:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Royal Scot identity swap. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
This article about a rather important topic related to railways is full of extraneous details, which in addition to sometimes being repetitive are very sparsely, if at all, sourced. I've rewritten one sub-section so far, but I've had to employ Britannica (usually avoided because we prefer secondary, not tertiary sources) because I could find only few sources which did not appear to fall foul of requirements of self-published. I'll continue this effort, but if anybody has access to proper published sources on the subject their help would be appreciated. Cheers, RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 04:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
could someone convert this to the standard routemap format? thank you! Frietjes ( talk) 17:47, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello Everyone, as we fill in, repair, and update the gaps in the Greek rail network articles issues have begun to 'pop up', that have to be addressed to make the whole exercises worthwhile... Most notably the services within the text box! I have been having trouble adding 'Express' and 'Regional' services as the coding defaults to 'Intercity', when as you know 'Express', 'Regional' and 'Intercity' use the Athens-Thessaloniki rout. This is an issue that should be addressed ASAP and I'm feeling I'm not qualified to address this overarching issue! Thank you all The Emperor of Byzantium ( talk) 10:22, 08 February 2021 (UTC)
Ekiben Hitoritabi is in need of someone who knows the Japanese train system to resolve some links to disambiguation pages -- there are currently seven train stations linked to dabs on the page, the most of any current enwiki article apparently. —valereee ( talk) 13:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
AlgaeGraphix moved all articles of Panama Metro Line 1 stations from convention Foo (Panama Metro) to Foo station. When I asked them whether they got consensus their answer was [1]. The edit summary says standartization of names, however, I do not believe this standartization can be in any way general - for example both Paris and Moscow use Foo (Paris Metro) scheme, and I do not think moving all stations of these systems to a different convention would be appropriate. I believe when I started to create articles on Panama Metro stations I asked for advise here, and the advise was that it does not matter much as soon as naming within the system is consistent, but Foo (Panama metro) would be fine. Before I start moving all these stations back, I would like to ask again whether this would be a good idea.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 17:04, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Preemptive parenthetical disambiguation is deprecated and discouraged (see WP:PRECISION). WP:USSTATIONS and WP:UKSTATION represent current examples of best practices and these moves are in line with those principles. There was a recent move of all French mainline stations to X station, and also the trams stations in Bordeaux. No one tackled the Parisian metro stations yet but they clearly should be moved as well. Mackensen (talk) 17:48, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Now, concerning WP:PRECISION. If I take a random example, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (stations in Poland), and go to List of Warsaw Metro stations. Take Ratusz Arsenał metro station — there is no object such as Ratusz Arsenał, in fact Ratusz means city hall in Polish, and refers to the City Hall of Warsaw, and Arsenał means a different building. Thus, if we literally apply PRECISION, the name of the article must be Ratusz Arsenał. (Note that there are countries — I previously mentioned Russia — where this is a common situation due to the grammar issues. For example, Biryulyovo-Tovarnaya can only refer to the station, unless someone opens a theater or whatever with this name, in which case it would be a derivative from the station). Furthermore, if we take Plac Wilsona metro station — is is named after Wilson Square, for which we do not have an article, and once we have it, I do not know whether it would be Plac Wilsona or Wilson Square — but even if it is Plac Wilsona, PRECISION mandates us to take the next option, which is Plac Wilsona station, since there are, no other stations with this name. This, this guideline is directly at variance with WP:PRECISION (which is a policy and part of WP:MOS). This happens all the time, I have seen a lot of contradictions within WP:MOS people feel very strongly about (I personally usually do not), but if all our guidelines contradict to PRECISION it is probably not such a good idea to use PRECISION as an argument for moving articles.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 08:50, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
As I promised, I have created this page which is supposed to collect current guidelines / RMs / practices on station names. I added there whatever I knew or could easily find. I will probably continue examining the situation and adding new countries, but if someone knows what the situation is I would certainly welcome any corrections/additions. If appropriate, I will also appreciate if this could be added somewhere as a link, I have no idea what the best place would be.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 13:31, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
(Notwithstanding the wrong title, since I can't find any proper source I'm not going to move it yet):
Any body have access to any sources mentioned here? There's a page about the rail line (identified as the "Roquefort-Lencouacq line") here, but this is clearly a blog/ WP:SPS so can't cite that... If not: Mackensen; Mjroots anything about this in the Atlas ferroviaire or Tortillards of Artois? The line apparently closed in 1934 (if the site I link is accurate), if that can help. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 15:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated MTR for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. FemkeMilene ( talk) 17:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Recently the tram stop intu Trafford Centre tram stop changed names to The Trafford Centre tram stop.
When I moved the page and fixed up the links, I missed one of the map templates, causing some other pages to break. Eventually, someone noticed and reported it. The discussion and fix is at Talk:Manchester Metrolink § Navigation boxes on tram stop articles ( permalink).
Could someone familiar with the ins and outs of how the tram/train template system works please make a checklist that ordinary editors can follow when renaming a page that is a tram or train stop, then prominently link it on the relevant WikiProject pages?
Or, if that's not going to happen, have some bot or watchlist watch for page-renames of tram/train stops so someone who knows what should be checked can follow up and finish off any incomplete tasks? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 15:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
AlgaeGraphix has moved the Chemins de Fer d'Aire à Fruges et de Rimeux-Gournay à Berck to the new title of Aire–Fruges and Rimeux-Gournay–Berck railway claiming WP:UE as a reason.
I strongly object to this move, which should be reverted. The very first line of WP:UE says "The choice between anglicized and local spellings should follow English-language usage". My contention is that WP:UE is not WP:USETRANSLATEDINTOENGLISH, therefore we don't need to translate the title. This is something which, if allowed to stand, affects many articles on railways in countries which don't use English as an official language. Do we really want to see articles titled Somme Bay Railway, Goes - Borsele Steam Train etc where there is no English title in common use? Mjroots ( talk) 05:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Folks, let's dial things down a notch. We translate plenty of such titles into English and have for ages. See for example Martigny–Orsières Railway (Chemin de fer Martigny–Orsières). I note in this case the title of the (featured) article on the French Wikipedia is Ligne d'Aire-sur-la-Lys à Berck-Plage, so our title isn't even correct French. When dealing with articles about lines, such as Ligne X in French or Bahnstrecke Y in German they are generally translated to X railway or X line. Mackensen (talk) 12:39, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
The discussion has gone on long enough. Would an uninvovled editor in good standing please close the RM? Mjroots ( talk) 13:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Can someone touch this template up a bit? The biggest issue I have is that it uses NavFrame, but even so I am pretty sure that it should take a somewhat different format. -- Izno ( talk) 23:36, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
I've raised a question at Module talk:Adjacent stations/China Railway High-speed, editors of Chinese railway articles may be interested. Thanks NemesisAT ( talk) 15:14, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
There's a major issue with the Contents box (which doubles as a Table of Contents) in the List of rail accidents (2020–present). I've looked at the template that calls the contents box, but can't fathom out why it's displaying 2020 as in the 2010s and isn't displaying 2021. Mjroots ( talk) 05:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Can we begin discussion on moving Tokyo Station to Tokyo station (among the rest)? I don't see why this is capitalized. Cards 84664 21:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
The maps task force seems quiet so I will be putting the map request here. I feel like San Francisco cable car system would be improved with a KML file. An existing map can be found here. Thanks! - 322UbnBr2 ( Talk | Contributions | Actions) 04:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Hollywood/Western station as had an image in the infobox and two additional images of the station in the article for at least five years. They were removed today with a "WP is not a collection of indiscriminate images" edit summary. It is a short article, but I don't think three images is at all excessive. I put them back (the status quo) and was immediately reverted. If anyone else has an opinion and would like to comment... MB 23:15, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
There are currently 77 categories with precomposed fraction characters (e.g. ½) in their names, the significant majority of them are relevant to this project as subcategories of Category:Track gauges by imperial unit and Category:Locomotives by gauge. There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 3#Category:10¼ in gauge railways in England about converting them to e.g. "1/2". Input from project members would be welcome. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
The Category:Locomotives by gauge category is currently a mess so I have proposed an organisation structure to sort it out at Category talk:Locomotives by gauge but there are still open questions that need answering so please share your thoughts, suggestions and improvements there. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:27, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Is there a template for entering wheel arrangements (eg 0-6-0PT) that treats them as a single word, and stop line breaks occurring either at the dashes, or between "0" and "PT"? It is mainly a problem in tables, when the browser tries to fit multiple columns in by making them all narrower, and decides that "0-6-<br/>0PT" is acceptable. If there isn't, can one be created? It should be made general enough to cover 4-6-2+2-6-4 Garratts, or A1A-A1A diesels. (And, yes, why don't I do it? I'd love to, and if there isn't any alternative, I may try, but it won't be soon.) -- Verbarson ( talk) 10:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
& # 8209 ;
without the spaces.
Mjroots (
talk)
17:47, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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AlgaeGraphix (
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23:17, 17 March 2021 (UTC)nolink
parameter to the template not be a better solution than a hard hyphen?
Thryduulf (
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02:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
The U-Bahn station articles are something of an outlier in that they still use preemptive parenthetical disambiguation, though with variations:
With the exception of Hamburg, "station" appears nowhere in the article title, which feels undesirable. Before doing a requested move I'm curious what others think about a better name. The simplest answer is "X station", which would match what other stations in Germany are named. Another possibility would be "X U-Bahn station", which is similar to the approach of the German Wikipedia, where articles are named "U-Bahnhof X". Still another possibility is "X metro station", which is done in other countries, but (to my ears anyway) sounds strange when discussing an U-Bahn system. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 02:09, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
As a note I dumped all the station names into a spreadsheet and identified three that were not unique between systems: Hohenzollernplatz station, Rathaus station (already ambiguous), and Uhlandstraße station. Of the remaining, there was only one, Berne station, that would need disambiguation. Mackensen (talk) 22:09, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi guys, I've just started a stub on a recent railway accident in Taiwan. It's still very short and lacking info. All are welcomed to expand it so it might appear in the ITN section. Thanks! -- Dora the Axe-plorer ( talk) 04:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Can an experienced editor create a template for Belgian State Railways Locomotives? The class numbers range from Belgian State Railways Type 1 through to Belgian State Railways Type 51 with some gaps and a couple of orphans ( Belgian State Railways Type 11 and Belgian State Railways Type 20). Thanks. 2A00:23C6:3B82:8500:9D90:4070:8777:F13F ( talk) 02:14, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Please can an expert review the numerous recent IP changes to List of high-speed railway lines? Thanks, Certes ( talk) 15:58, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
We now have a solid primary source regarding Amtrak expansion. How should we cover this, on the main article or with a draft on its own regarding expansion plans? Cards 84664 04:34, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
List of secondary sources I have found regarding this:
More to come soon.-- Kieran207( talk- Contribs) 02:08, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
I just created an article for the Farnsworth Avenue Bridge in New Jersey. There are claims that it was built in 1831, making it possibly the oldest bridge over a railroad in the Western Hemisphere. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you, Thriley ( talk) 07:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Following the demise of Windsor Lines (Waterloo to Reading, Windsor and Hounslow loop), editors may be interested in a replacement omnibus: Overview of The Windsor Lines. Certes ( talk) 11:59, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
An editor has requested for British Rail Class 373 to be moved to Eurostar e300. Since you had some involvement with British Rail Class 373, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
An editor has requested for British Rail Class 374 to be moved to Eurostar e320. Since you had some involvement with British Rail Class 374, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 13:26, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
The KML files of the orange and green lines of BART need to be updated. May someone do that please? Thanks! - 322UbnBr2 ( Talk | Contributions | Actions) 21:13, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Following a report at ANI, I've indeffed Vu-0001 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for creating many one line stubs on railway locomotives and (more importantly) refusing to communicate. It's a pity I had to do this as their contribution history show they are able to write decent articles. Are any editors able to expand the stubs? Seem to be mostly Australian and Greek locomotive classes. Mjroots ( talk) 09:52, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I decided to link to my comment on the page here as this page should be more heavily watched. Can someone reply on the link to the page on the section above? Thanks. 54nd60x ( talk) 09:24, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi all - there are a few discussions that may interest you:
Posting here as we are all editors of transit articles, and unfortunately, the bus wikiproject is inactive and does not have the same following to attract attention. ɱ (talk) 14:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello there, how about retouching the 'Railway accidents in xxxx' template from this:
to this:
The latter is arguably:
This new template is essentially the same as {{ Aviation accidents and incidents}} currently in use at the WikiProject Aviation, which I contributed to including by introducing elements from the current Railway accidents template (namely the left/right arrow links at the bottom of the box). I think now the vice-versa would be beneficial too. What do you guys think, yay, nay? -- Deeday-UK ( talk) 13:15, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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and (ii) the characteristics of your device's display. Your browser is being instructed to show the list in columnar format, using as many columns as will fit within the available width subject to each column being no less than 25em wide. The 25em is based upon the fonts that are: set by the page's markup; configured in your browser; available on your device. The available width is dependent on a number of factors, including: your device's display; your browser; your zoom level. So whilst you see two columns, others may well see more - or perhaps just one. Personally, I see three columns on a display that is 1280px wide at 100% zoom. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
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21:11, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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This is the new navbox format with just location and country. Mjroots ( talk) 16:33, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
A probably unpopular take: these templates should not exist at all. The articles are very loosely related (unrelated random events that happened to take place in the same year), and they rarely link to each other. Per the guidelines at WP:NAVBOX, such loosely related articles are better served by a category and/or list article, rather than bulky navboxes. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 18:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Per some of the comments above, I added a link to the list of the current year's incidents to the bottom navbar. AlgaeGraphix ( talk) 20:02, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Please can an editor with a clue about the Moscow Metro review recent RDT changes by 108.48.189.192? I'm having difficulty resolving ambiguous links and cannot find sources for some of the additions. Thanks, Certes ( talk) 10:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Does anybody have issues of British Railway Modelling, Model Railway Journal or Railway Modeller that have features on 2 mm scale? Perhaps you can use those to improve the article 2 mm scale. Even if you can't, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2 mm scale. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
I have been advised to contact you, with regards to the information that I have entered in this section, in the hope that the referred-to line template could include the information contained therein.
Xenophon Philosopher ( talk) 18:15, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Indeed it is. I used the heading of the article/template in question that I did as that was what I read the heading to be. But thanks for seeking this clarification and I have now amended the title of this query and so hope that the information that I provided in my original query will enable the route map to be updated accordingly. Incidentally, I now appear to have a specific Wikipedia problem which you will note here as although I typed the four tildes at the end of this message, my website username has not appeared.
Xenophon Philosopher ( talk) 22:48, 10 May 2021 (UTC) 03:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Just to let you know that @AlgaeGraphix has now entered Nantwen Colliery Halt onto the route map, so that now only leaves three colliery halts outstanding. Perhaps the person who placed these onto the topography section could now assist. Thank you for pointing out my "five tildes" faux pas.
Xenophon Philosopher ( talk) 22:47, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi all! I've been working on improving Draft:Powerscourt siding for a while after it was put into draftspace, and I'd really appreciate if someone could review the article. -- LivelyRatification ( talk) 03:58, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps an article on the waiting time can be made on this ? See Talk:Vactrain#Conventional_trains_in_evacuated_tunnels -- Genetics4good ( talk) 14:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
In case in the last three days you noticed incorrectly sized or positioned text in articles (e.g. co-ordinates at the top overlapping with infoboxes, categories at the bottom displayed in an unusually large font size etc), it's an issue with the Wikimedia software that has already been reported here. -- Deeday-UK ( talk) 12:03, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
A head-on collision has occurred on the Kelana Jaya line in Malaysia, with about 150 people injured. Details sketchy at the moment, but possibly an article worthy event. Mjroots ( talk) 16:46, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, would someone with a better grasp of Chinese than me translate this title into English? It is zh:苏南沿江铁路. The best I can come up is the Jiangsu South River Bank railway? Thanks NemesisAT ( talk) 23:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Calgary Transit bus routes .
Posting here as we are all editors of transit articles, and unfortunately, the bus wikiproject is inactive and does not have the same following to attract attention.
AlgaeGraphix (
talk)
16:10, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi all - about a month ago, @ Kieran207: removed platform layouts on numerous train station articles. They cited a WP:TRAINS consensus, and I asked where that was. Apparently four people supported the removals in 2019, while eight people said not to have a general policy? And the closer took this as a consensus for removal - a clear bad close, even if it's not just a numerical vote. Can we revert these edits and/or re-do the RfC? Clearly this isn't very well settled. ɱ (talk) 00:47, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
@ Ɱ:, I honestly agree with you. The reason I removed them is because other editors had removed them citing the same consensus. The diagrams are fine additions, but NOTGUIDE may still be an issue. I would be more than happy with a new RfC.-- 🌀 Kieran207- talk 🌀 12:19, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
We've had these discussions on about a yearly basis since 2014. The general consensus every time has been:
Based on this, I fully support Kieran207's removal of these diagrams; when their edits have crossed my watchlist, it has been for simple stations where a diagram is not needed. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 22:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I have removed a bunch of these diagrams, most of them on simple stations but some were more complex with more than two platforms. Personally, I don't like them. I've never edited them myself and the syntax isn't exactly inviting. I used a screenreader to read the diagram at Caochangmen – Nanjing University of the Arts – Jiangsu Second Normal University station and it wasn't as bad as I expected it to be though I think (if we do keep the diagrams) there ought to be headings (like "Level", "Line", "Direction of travel", etc) to make the contents clearer to screen reader users. I have added some prose to Caochangmen – Nanjing University of the Arts – Jiangsu Second Normal University station, I think my wording is a bit poor but something similar to what I've added could replace the layout diagrams. My vote would be to remove all station layout diagrams (unless the layout is particularly notable or unusual) and replace them with prose. NemesisAT ( talk) 15:51, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
For a station such as Fuzhou South railway station, should the station layout be kept or removed? I'm also looking for others' opinions on multiple infoboxes as seen in that article. Personally I really don't like them. They have created a load of whitespace, and its more work to keep them all updated. Changsha South railway station has four (!!) infoboxes. When metro and railway stations share an article, I'd like them to only use one infobox. Thoughts? NemesisAT ( talk) 11:03, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
An edit at Newton Highlands station caused a module error so I reverted the edit. However there was also this edit which seemed problematic so I reverted it as well. Someone who understands the topic might like to check other edits which seem to involve unexplained changes. Johnuniq ( talk) 04:41, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Well I did notice that the highland branch had the error even before I made the edits so it was not me who caused error text on the historic Highland Branch. RedProofHill123 ( talk) 12:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
I was asked to report train-related articles here for comment. I am happy to do so, assuming this project is active enough for useful comments to be generated :) Anyway, I am considering nominating the following articles for deletion, but I'd be of course happier to see them improved instead. Kylpor ejector, Underframe, Dragbox. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:46, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
I just noticed something odd about NYC car model numbers. It took about 170 years to get from R1 to R46 (which were introduced when I was a kid). Now, roughly 50 years later, we're already up to R211. Why are we burning through model numbers so fast? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:45, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Jeepday ( talk) 12:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
When quoting train lengths, height and widths, should we be adopting a consistent unit of measure, i.e. all in metres, centimetres or millimetres rather than a mix of more than one. Point in case being this one that quotes the length in metres and the width and height in millimetres. Would have thought using metres across the board to a consistent decimal point level was preferable, i.e [3]. Think quoting the width as 3,034 millimetres is unduly precise, when 3.03 metres would be quite adequate. Thoughts? Jeistyphade ( talk) 06:21, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Logos of rail transport companies of China.
Sam
Sailor
18:09, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
I've made a (small) dent in the assessment backlog, and from what I've seen the vast majority of the articles missing assessments are stubs or at best starts, and almost all are low importance. Is there a way we can automate assessments for these, say by having all articles with a total word count below a certain number automatically being classified as stubs?
Additionally, for going through the backlog manually, are there certain kinds of articles that should be prioritized for assessment? There's over 8,000 articles missing importance assessments, and over 2,000 missing quality assessments. Is one more important than the other? Assuming 1 minute per assessment (rather generous) it would still take close to 200 hours to go through all of the assessments manually. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:21, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Would some other editors be willing to watchlist Coaster (commuter rail)? I'm having a hard time convincing several editors not to add trivia, personal observations, etc. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 01:51, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
I have over the past few days looked over and tried to make improvements to a lot of the GE and EMD diesel locomotives articles, and I have noticed an alarming number of these articles list references and/or external links that in my view are not acceptable for Wikipedia per WP:FANSITE and WP:SELFPUBLISH. Some examples include utahrails.net, trainweb.org, and alaskarails.org. Do we have a general policy on if these sources are considered acceptable, and if not, should we as a WikiProject decide on one?
I'm debating having a request for comment for this, but for now I'm just going to create this new section and see what other editors have to say on the subject. There are a lot of articles that a change in allowing these sources would affect, so I want to solicit other editors' views before potentially removing them. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Discussions from 2020 on these questions (mostly involving myself and Graywalls, though others participated):
I don't know that much came of these discussions, aside from reaffirming that linking out to railfanning sites doesn't offend WP:ELNO. Mackensen (talk) 22:50, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
I have proposed that the article EMD GP39DC be merged into EMD GP39. I'd appreciate some feedback on the proposed merger at Talk:EMD GP39. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:56, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Assistance required in identifying the classes of train involved in the Milavče train collision please (photos in quoted sources). Mjroots ( talk) 11:56, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Starter for ten? - {{ Photomontage}} - This may have been tried and not working? Djm-leighpark ( talk) 20:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC) Djm-leighpark ( talk)
Question out of curiosity: where does the DB in "DB Class 223" come from? I've never heard someone referring to them as DB Class 223, mostly just "Baureihe 223" (Class 223) or "ER20". Btw, the ČD Class 844 is part of the Pesa Link family, so I changed the redirect target. Nyamo Kurosawa ( talk) 16:12, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I have been back and forth with LeoFrank at Mumbai Rajdhani Express for a while now and they haven't responded to my message at Talk:Mumbai Rajdhani Express so I thought I'd bring this article to the attention of the project so others can share their thoughts if they like. Since November 2018 they have been removing content from this page, citing WP:NOTTRAVEL or claiming it is unencyclopedic. They have also claimed the content they are removing is sourced by blogs or at other times, user-generated content. Yes, some sources may be user-generated, but I'm fairly certain India Times and official Indian government websites are not. Now apparently, it's all unencyclopedic and with a vague personal attack in the latest summary I decided to seek others opinions. I'm not claiming all content added to this article should be kept, but I'm just uncomfortable with the mass-content removal going on here and think at least some of it is valuable and encyclopedic. Thank you NemesisAT ( talk) 17:29, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hitachi Rail Italy/Archive 1#Requested move 12 August 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 14:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
The Railway Preservation Society of Ireland article has recently been gutted. As I understand the situation, the main issue was serious BLP violations, with COI editing and PRIMARY also of concern. I fully support the gutting of the article, but also support its reconstruction. As I said at the talk page, there should be plenty of independent sources to enable a decent article to be written. Mjroots ( talk) 05:01, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
An editor has proposed to merge China Railways ND5 into GE C36-7. The editor forgot to add the templates to the articles for the proposed merger, and while I've done so now so they will show up in article alerts tomorrow, I'd like to invite other editors to comment on the proposed merger [5]. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 15:33, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Does anybody have any independent third-party reliable sources for this company that Fzlmhd2016 ( talk · contribs) is insistent be included in List of locomotive builders? We don't have an article, so it's a redlink, so per WP:WTAF it shouldn't be added to a list yet. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 08:49, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to get some feedback on if these large tables of locomotive production, for example, EMD GP9#Original buyers are encyclopedic. There has been disagreement on talk pages and elsewhere as to if these tables are valid additions to articles, or are unencyclopedic and make articles unreadable (the giant table in the GP9 article, for example). I am considering an RFC, but if we can come to a consensus here instead I would prefer that. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 16:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if anyone around here could help me find more information about an Erie and Ontario Railway (specifically the one mentioned here [8]). Do we already have an article about this or would I need to add it to Wikipedia:Requested Articles? Clovermoss (talk) 01:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Is there a convention as to whether towns mentioned in the lead of an article on a railway line should link to the town or to the station? I see that East Lancashire line "runs between Preston..." which was originally a link to Preston, Lancashire but since at least 2008 has linked to Preston railway station. Other links are consistent, all from placenames to stations. Is the reader of the article more likely to want to know about the town or the station? I tried to find a comparable featured article, and note that City and South London Railway goes from the City of London ... was extended to Morden... etc, in its lead.
I wondered whether there is an MOS, guideline or model for railway line articles which has anything to say on this? (Pinging @ DragonofBatley: for info, as it's an article he has edited recently, though these links are long-established). Pam D 08:54, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
But if it helps I would revisit the lead and just link Preston, Blackburn, Accrington, Burnley, Nelson and Colne. As Burnley has two stations on the line at Manchester Road and Barracks. But then maybe just say Burnley and part of Pendle in Lancashire.
Gives both towns a mention then or just link Hydburn and Pendle as the lines run through these anyway. I think big centres like Nelson should be in the lead as it is informative or maybe split the lead between the main line from Preston to Leeds and Burnley to Colne.
As the line has two separate lines from Burnley Manchester Road station. It be more formative to split the two lines as one goes to Colne and the other to Leeds and Bradford among other destinations.
So maybe a two lead could go "Preston to Leeds via Blackburn Accrington and Burnley. Another part of the line runs along part of the former Leeds and Bradford Extension Railway to Colne via Nelson."
There's one lead idea? @ PamD: as that would give the main through route and the branch part to Colne both a mention?
Hope this helps DragonofBatley ( talk) 09:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
I have been using Special:Recentchangeslinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Recent changes to attempt to patrol new changes to articles within WP Trains, but I noticed that many articles were not showing up under recent changes. It turns out that the list Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Recent changes has not been updated at all since 2012. Is there a way we can get a bot to update this? The page says it is designed to be updated weekly by a bot but that is not happening. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 15:41, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
I am working on a draft ( User:Trainsandotherthings/Draft:Railroads_in_New_England) of an article I hope will eventually contain a thorough history of railroads in New England. At the moment however, it is not ready for article space because it has some major holes in the timeline (chiefly in the 1800s) and needs many more citations. Any contributions other editors are able to make would be greatly appreciated. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 00:25, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Cincinnati, Lebanon and Northern Railway for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 04:27, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I have been trying to make the clunky (machine?-) translations from German to English in articles on the Nuremberg U-Bahn (particularly U1 (Nuremberg U-Bahn) and Nuremberg U-Bahn itself) more readable, but it's still a long ways to go and I may not be the most suitable for the job, because I myself am a German native speaker who only learned English later. Could some of y'all try and help out, please? Hobbitschuster ( talk) 08:40, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
An editor has requested for AVE Class 100 to be moved to Renfe Class 100. Since you had some involvement with AVE Class 100, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
An editor has requested for AVE Class 102 to be moved to Renfe Class 102. Since you had some involvement with AVE Class 102, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
An editor has requested for AVE Class 103 to be moved to Renfe Class 103. Since you had some involvement with AVE Class 103, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
Havelock Jones ( talk) 13:20, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I remember at some point there was a mass change of Foo Line to Foo line. Did we have an RfC leading to this change? Thanks.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 18:56, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Yesterday, I had to remove major instances of copyright violations on Pan Am Railways and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway. This has left major holes in the articles, and I could use help putting them back together properly. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:17, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
The now abandoned town of Pino Grande, California, is best remembered as the home of the Michigan-California Lumber Company, which operated one of the last forest railways in the Sierra Nevada. An experienced editor has deleted the roster of Shay locomotives used by the company, allegedly "removing superfluous info". I would value a discussion about locomotive rosters on that talk page (or elsewhere, as appropriate). Thewellman ( talk) 23:47, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion underway to change the article name from New York City Subway to New York City subway. Cards 84664 12:58, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Please see this discussion thread about 1,200 untranscluded subpages of {{ S-line}} and respond there if you have thoughts. That page has only 32 watchers, so I am posting a notice here in the hope that at least some of this page's 437 watchers are active. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 05:04, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
There is currently an informal discussion concerning the article title at Talk:Track (rail transport)#Name consideration to those interested. -- Otr500 ( talk) 06:17, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Türkmendemirýollary#Requested move 2 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 03:14, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
I was just garnering my interest into some of the old railway around Midlands and noticed this article. This article seems to lack any real notability or sources/expansion. Maybe this article would be better merged into either the Sutton Park Line or Wolverhampton and Walsall Railway due to it being merely a small branch line which did not have a long life span. Thoughts? DragonofBatley ( talk) 11:54, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
I am launching an effort to improve what may be the single most important article of this Wikiproject: Train itself. I'd appreciate feedback and suggestions at Talk:Train#Article rewrite, or just feel free to make improvements of course. Thanks! Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:39, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
I've nominated the Category:Railway accidents involving a disregarded signal for renaming. Discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 November 2#Category:Railway accidents involving a disregarded signal. Mjroots ( talk) 18:32, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:New York City Subway#Requested move 14 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 13:04, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi all. Just over from the Cricket Project. The above chap played first-class cricket but was also a notable railway industrialist, so I'm just leaving him here if anyone wishes to expand his article. Cheers, StickyWicket ( talk) 21:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I have BOLDly split content from Train to the page Passenger train, to be analogous with Rail freight transport. I'm looking for contributors to help clean up and expand the new article, particularly to provide a more international perspective. Thanks! Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 17:25, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
This morning (morning on the U.S. east coast, anyhow), I talked with User:Mackensen about bad additions to the locomotive roster on EMD GP38-2 at that article's talk page. We both weighed in that we are leaning towards supporting the deprecation of "original owners"/"original buyers" sections on locomotive articles, as they end up attracting lots of unsourced or incorrect information, along with excessive detail. Take a look at this extreme example of how much of a problem they can become, which I took a sledgehammer to a month ago. There's a few options we can choose from, as a WikiProject:
No change: Do not make any changes to how we handle locomotive production rosters.
Keep rosters, but slim them down to only the essentials: the railroads that bought them, which models they bought, if applicable, the number each bought, and their road numbers, and nothing else (basically, no more "notes" sections). This is how the roster on EMD F40PH, a good article (both in that it passed GA and it is a well written article in general) is set up.
Deprecate rosters entirely: Remove them from all articles on locomotive models, and include mention of significant buyers in the prose instead of in tables.
I'm posing the question here to get input from other editors because I don't want to go around deleting or slimming down all the rosters without discussing, though if it were up to me I'd prefer the second or third option, as opposed to maintaining the status quo. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 04:34, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello good folks at WikiProject Trains,
I mostly create & update RouteMap templates for Indian Railways .
I am in a certain dilemma for which I require your help. There are some stations which serve both suburban and long distance trains in India. Some suburban sections, like the Howrah–Bardhaman main line for example, are an integral part of long distance lines (in this case the Howrah–Delhi main line).
For those stations do we use the icon
(which is used for suburban stations) or do we use the icon
(normal long distance trains) or do we use them both (like done
here for
Sealdah.)?
If not any of them do we have any icon that provides both these functionalities ?
Regards, GoldenDragon2293Return ( talk) 07:50, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I've been a bit frustrated lately with edits like this one moving the adjacent stations boxes from the bottom of the article to the infobox. I prefer them to be above the navboxes as there's more space and so the contents is less crushed. It works much better for stations on multiple lines especially, IMO. Is there a general preference among editors? NemesisAT ( talk) 22:49, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
So with the split opinions here, should we just leave it up to the article creator? Or perhaps create a guideline that suggests stations on more than X lines should have the boxes at the bottom of the article? NemesisAT ( talk) 13:21, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with notability/sourcing requirements for light rail station entries, but I was surprised to see red links for most of Guadalajara light rail system. There are articles for a couple of stations but none of the others. Do any project members have a sense of whether or not there should be standalone articles for these stations? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 03:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Could someone familiar with the usual rail templates please have a look at Mettupalayam railway station? WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:14, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Could someone familiar with rail station notability guidelines and citation have a look at this article, please? I noticed that it didn't appear at all in one of the citations on the page (since removed). I managed to confirm that a station exists with this name and you can buy tickets to it on the DB website, but even DB doesn't appear to have any information on it at all so I'm not sure where any of this is coming from.
Also, the way I read the notability guidelines, this doesn't pass them at all. But that surely can't be true in practice, since I've seen so many of these rail station stubs. Would anyone here be able to explain? Thank you! -- asilvering ( talk) 18:25, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
{{ Infobox Paris Metro line}} is a wrapper for {{ Infobox rail line}}. It has a parameter conducting_system which displays as Conduction system and relates to how the line is operated.
None of the definitions at Conductor#Transport related covers this use. Would calling it driving_system and displaying Driving system be better or is a conductor on the Metro different from a driver? -- Cavrdg ( talk) 07:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
in Slovakia for the main purpose - try to manage the actual information about the company and upgrade the data, which can help the customers and the habitant as well for the projects or for their own knowledge. I had tried to change and update the newest data and information about the ZSSK profile in the English version. Link: /info/en/?search=%C5%BDelezni%C4%8Dn%C3%A1_spolo%C4%8Dnos%C5%A5_Slovensko I had tried to give after every paragraph citation with the source. I found out that you recommend "Avoid embedded links". Unfortunately, mandatory of our sources are web links. Do you mind giving me advice and showing examples of how to make it correctly? Or to push it somehow? Cause this article is quite old and has not been updated for a years. Adrianamala ( talk) 10:25, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
This is a friendly note to say that I have nominated a group of 60+ unused train templates for deletion. My understanding is that these templates have been replaced as part of a project to migrate uses of these individual templates to use {{ Adjacent stations}} instead. If there are any templates on the list that I have nominated in error because of my lack of understanding, please post a note at that discussion, and I will modify the nomination accordingly. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 16:43, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Blue Line {{rint|chennai|blue}}
how do I create this? I wanted to create rail interchange template for other systems.
Footy2000 (
talk) 09:50, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Footy2000 (
talk)
09:55, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Can anyone explain why there are both Category:High-speed rail in X and Category:High-speed railway lines in X for many countries? Useddenim ( talk) 21:50, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I have a specific interest in Australian railways but I lack knowledge of railways in other countries and I was just wondering if we would be able to get an Australian subcategory under Category:Stub-Class rail transport articles? and Category:Start-Class rail transport articles The majority of Australian railway-related articles I have seen are either start or stub class and I would love to help improve them! I'm new to this WikiProject and being a participant in WikiProjects in general so I am not sure whether this was the appropriate place to request a subcategory, or whether I am meant to just create one or what the correct procedure is. Thanks in advance! BakuFromAus ( talk) 13:26, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
The Route Diagram Template for Amtrak's Southwest Chief was vandalized by a robot by including the now-cancelled reroute of the train through Amarillo, TX in the template. I'm running into problems undoing the vandalism myself, so can someone else do it for me. That would be appreciated. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wof2500 ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
I have raised a concern regarding editing on at editing of the Railway Preservation Society of Ireland article, to which I am too involved, at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Railway Preservation Society of Ireland. Neutrals are welcome to assist at that article or that discussion. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 23:26, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm looking for more reviewers for my FAC, Cedar Hill Yard. The review is located at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cedar Hill Yard/archive1. Thanks in advance. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 21:04, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Александр Мотин has requested his CBAN be lifted. The discussion is at WP:AN#Александр Мотин unban request. Members of this WP may remember that this editor was involved in moving numerous Russian railway line articles. Mjroots ( talk) 18:06, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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It results in the page landing in Category:Pages where expansion depth is exceeded.
You can see this in
this old revision of
Talk:Astoria–Ditmars Boulevard station, which was reverted with the
this edit. The call to {{
WikiProject Trains}} looks like this: {{WikiProject Trains |1= |class=Start |importance=low |NYPT=yes |NYPT-importance=mid |subway=yes |stations=yes}}
Even without the "shell" it has a template expansion depth of 37, which is right up against the limit of 40, as shown in the source-code view of the link to the reverted revision above. Search for Highest expansion depth: to find the parser profiling data. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 16:06, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
|NYPT=yes
is removed, I suspect that the problem is with {{
WPBannerMeta/hooks/cats}}
. But I don't see why {{
WikiProject banner shell}}
needs to be used for just two banners.Hi all, there is a new station planned called Nanjing North railway station ( source). How shall I go about naming the new article and the existing Nanjing North railway station article? I've had a quick look for other station articles in the same area with the same name, but haven't found any yet. Thanks NemesisAT ( talk) 14:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
|language=
and |trans-title
parameters to those reference in the article on the new station and fill them in?
Mjroots (
talk)
19:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Royal Scot identity swap. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
This article about a rather important topic related to railways is full of extraneous details, which in addition to sometimes being repetitive are very sparsely, if at all, sourced. I've rewritten one sub-section so far, but I've had to employ Britannica (usually avoided because we prefer secondary, not tertiary sources) because I could find only few sources which did not appear to fall foul of requirements of self-published. I'll continue this effort, but if anybody has access to proper published sources on the subject their help would be appreciated. Cheers, RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 04:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
could someone convert this to the standard routemap format? thank you! Frietjes ( talk) 17:47, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello Everyone, as we fill in, repair, and update the gaps in the Greek rail network articles issues have begun to 'pop up', that have to be addressed to make the whole exercises worthwhile... Most notably the services within the text box! I have been having trouble adding 'Express' and 'Regional' services as the coding defaults to 'Intercity', when as you know 'Express', 'Regional' and 'Intercity' use the Athens-Thessaloniki rout. This is an issue that should be addressed ASAP and I'm feeling I'm not qualified to address this overarching issue! Thank you all The Emperor of Byzantium ( talk) 10:22, 08 February 2021 (UTC)
Ekiben Hitoritabi is in need of someone who knows the Japanese train system to resolve some links to disambiguation pages -- there are currently seven train stations linked to dabs on the page, the most of any current enwiki article apparently. —valereee ( talk) 13:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
AlgaeGraphix moved all articles of Panama Metro Line 1 stations from convention Foo (Panama Metro) to Foo station. When I asked them whether they got consensus their answer was [1]. The edit summary says standartization of names, however, I do not believe this standartization can be in any way general - for example both Paris and Moscow use Foo (Paris Metro) scheme, and I do not think moving all stations of these systems to a different convention would be appropriate. I believe when I started to create articles on Panama Metro stations I asked for advise here, and the advise was that it does not matter much as soon as naming within the system is consistent, but Foo (Panama metro) would be fine. Before I start moving all these stations back, I would like to ask again whether this would be a good idea.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 17:04, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Preemptive parenthetical disambiguation is deprecated and discouraged (see WP:PRECISION). WP:USSTATIONS and WP:UKSTATION represent current examples of best practices and these moves are in line with those principles. There was a recent move of all French mainline stations to X station, and also the trams stations in Bordeaux. No one tackled the Parisian metro stations yet but they clearly should be moved as well. Mackensen (talk) 17:48, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Now, concerning WP:PRECISION. If I take a random example, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (stations in Poland), and go to List of Warsaw Metro stations. Take Ratusz Arsenał metro station — there is no object such as Ratusz Arsenał, in fact Ratusz means city hall in Polish, and refers to the City Hall of Warsaw, and Arsenał means a different building. Thus, if we literally apply PRECISION, the name of the article must be Ratusz Arsenał. (Note that there are countries — I previously mentioned Russia — where this is a common situation due to the grammar issues. For example, Biryulyovo-Tovarnaya can only refer to the station, unless someone opens a theater or whatever with this name, in which case it would be a derivative from the station). Furthermore, if we take Plac Wilsona metro station — is is named after Wilson Square, for which we do not have an article, and once we have it, I do not know whether it would be Plac Wilsona or Wilson Square — but even if it is Plac Wilsona, PRECISION mandates us to take the next option, which is Plac Wilsona station, since there are, no other stations with this name. This, this guideline is directly at variance with WP:PRECISION (which is a policy and part of WP:MOS). This happens all the time, I have seen a lot of contradictions within WP:MOS people feel very strongly about (I personally usually do not), but if all our guidelines contradict to PRECISION it is probably not such a good idea to use PRECISION as an argument for moving articles.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 08:50, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
As I promised, I have created this page which is supposed to collect current guidelines / RMs / practices on station names. I added there whatever I knew or could easily find. I will probably continue examining the situation and adding new countries, but if someone knows what the situation is I would certainly welcome any corrections/additions. If appropriate, I will also appreciate if this could be added somewhere as a link, I have no idea what the best place would be.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 13:31, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
(Notwithstanding the wrong title, since I can't find any proper source I'm not going to move it yet):
Any body have access to any sources mentioned here? There's a page about the rail line (identified as the "Roquefort-Lencouacq line") here, but this is clearly a blog/ WP:SPS so can't cite that... If not: Mackensen; Mjroots anything about this in the Atlas ferroviaire or Tortillards of Artois? The line apparently closed in 1934 (if the site I link is accurate), if that can help. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 15:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated MTR for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. FemkeMilene ( talk) 17:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Recently the tram stop intu Trafford Centre tram stop changed names to The Trafford Centre tram stop.
When I moved the page and fixed up the links, I missed one of the map templates, causing some other pages to break. Eventually, someone noticed and reported it. The discussion and fix is at Talk:Manchester Metrolink § Navigation boxes on tram stop articles ( permalink).
Could someone familiar with the ins and outs of how the tram/train template system works please make a checklist that ordinary editors can follow when renaming a page that is a tram or train stop, then prominently link it on the relevant WikiProject pages?
Or, if that's not going to happen, have some bot or watchlist watch for page-renames of tram/train stops so someone who knows what should be checked can follow up and finish off any incomplete tasks? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 15:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
AlgaeGraphix has moved the Chemins de Fer d'Aire à Fruges et de Rimeux-Gournay à Berck to the new title of Aire–Fruges and Rimeux-Gournay–Berck railway claiming WP:UE as a reason.
I strongly object to this move, which should be reverted. The very first line of WP:UE says "The choice between anglicized and local spellings should follow English-language usage". My contention is that WP:UE is not WP:USETRANSLATEDINTOENGLISH, therefore we don't need to translate the title. This is something which, if allowed to stand, affects many articles on railways in countries which don't use English as an official language. Do we really want to see articles titled Somme Bay Railway, Goes - Borsele Steam Train etc where there is no English title in common use? Mjroots ( talk) 05:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Folks, let's dial things down a notch. We translate plenty of such titles into English and have for ages. See for example Martigny–Orsières Railway (Chemin de fer Martigny–Orsières). I note in this case the title of the (featured) article on the French Wikipedia is Ligne d'Aire-sur-la-Lys à Berck-Plage, so our title isn't even correct French. When dealing with articles about lines, such as Ligne X in French or Bahnstrecke Y in German they are generally translated to X railway or X line. Mackensen (talk) 12:39, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
The discussion has gone on long enough. Would an uninvovled editor in good standing please close the RM? Mjroots ( talk) 13:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Can someone touch this template up a bit? The biggest issue I have is that it uses NavFrame, but even so I am pretty sure that it should take a somewhat different format. -- Izno ( talk) 23:36, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
I've raised a question at Module talk:Adjacent stations/China Railway High-speed, editors of Chinese railway articles may be interested. Thanks NemesisAT ( talk) 15:14, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
There's a major issue with the Contents box (which doubles as a Table of Contents) in the List of rail accidents (2020–present). I've looked at the template that calls the contents box, but can't fathom out why it's displaying 2020 as in the 2010s and isn't displaying 2021. Mjroots ( talk) 05:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Can we begin discussion on moving Tokyo Station to Tokyo station (among the rest)? I don't see why this is capitalized. Cards 84664 21:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
The maps task force seems quiet so I will be putting the map request here. I feel like San Francisco cable car system would be improved with a KML file. An existing map can be found here. Thanks! - 322UbnBr2 ( Talk | Contributions | Actions) 04:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Hollywood/Western station as had an image in the infobox and two additional images of the station in the article for at least five years. They were removed today with a "WP is not a collection of indiscriminate images" edit summary. It is a short article, but I don't think three images is at all excessive. I put them back (the status quo) and was immediately reverted. If anyone else has an opinion and would like to comment... MB 23:15, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
There are currently 77 categories with precomposed fraction characters (e.g. ½) in their names, the significant majority of them are relevant to this project as subcategories of Category:Track gauges by imperial unit and Category:Locomotives by gauge. There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 3#Category:10¼ in gauge railways in England about converting them to e.g. "1/2". Input from project members would be welcome. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
The Category:Locomotives by gauge category is currently a mess so I have proposed an organisation structure to sort it out at Category talk:Locomotives by gauge but there are still open questions that need answering so please share your thoughts, suggestions and improvements there. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:27, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Is there a template for entering wheel arrangements (eg 0-6-0PT) that treats them as a single word, and stop line breaks occurring either at the dashes, or between "0" and "PT"? It is mainly a problem in tables, when the browser tries to fit multiple columns in by making them all narrower, and decides that "0-6-<br/>0PT" is acceptable. If there isn't, can one be created? It should be made general enough to cover 4-6-2+2-6-4 Garratts, or A1A-A1A diesels. (And, yes, why don't I do it? I'd love to, and if there isn't any alternative, I may try, but it won't be soon.) -- Verbarson ( talk) 10:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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without the spaces.
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parameter to the template not be a better solution than a hard hyphen?
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The U-Bahn station articles are something of an outlier in that they still use preemptive parenthetical disambiguation, though with variations:
With the exception of Hamburg, "station" appears nowhere in the article title, which feels undesirable. Before doing a requested move I'm curious what others think about a better name. The simplest answer is "X station", which would match what other stations in Germany are named. Another possibility would be "X U-Bahn station", which is similar to the approach of the German Wikipedia, where articles are named "U-Bahnhof X". Still another possibility is "X metro station", which is done in other countries, but (to my ears anyway) sounds strange when discussing an U-Bahn system. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 02:09, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
As a note I dumped all the station names into a spreadsheet and identified three that were not unique between systems: Hohenzollernplatz station, Rathaus station (already ambiguous), and Uhlandstraße station. Of the remaining, there was only one, Berne station, that would need disambiguation. Mackensen (talk) 22:09, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi guys, I've just started a stub on a recent railway accident in Taiwan. It's still very short and lacking info. All are welcomed to expand it so it might appear in the ITN section. Thanks! -- Dora the Axe-plorer ( talk) 04:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Can an experienced editor create a template for Belgian State Railways Locomotives? The class numbers range from Belgian State Railways Type 1 through to Belgian State Railways Type 51 with some gaps and a couple of orphans ( Belgian State Railways Type 11 and Belgian State Railways Type 20). Thanks. 2A00:23C6:3B82:8500:9D90:4070:8777:F13F ( talk) 02:14, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Please can an expert review the numerous recent IP changes to List of high-speed railway lines? Thanks, Certes ( talk) 15:58, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
We now have a solid primary source regarding Amtrak expansion. How should we cover this, on the main article or with a draft on its own regarding expansion plans? Cards 84664 04:34, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
List of secondary sources I have found regarding this:
More to come soon.-- Kieran207( talk- Contribs) 02:08, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
I just created an article for the Farnsworth Avenue Bridge in New Jersey. There are claims that it was built in 1831, making it possibly the oldest bridge over a railroad in the Western Hemisphere. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you, Thriley ( talk) 07:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Following the demise of Windsor Lines (Waterloo to Reading, Windsor and Hounslow loop), editors may be interested in a replacement omnibus: Overview of The Windsor Lines. Certes ( talk) 11:59, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
An editor has requested for British Rail Class 373 to be moved to Eurostar e300. Since you had some involvement with British Rail Class 373, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
An editor has requested for British Rail Class 374 to be moved to Eurostar e320. Since you had some involvement with British Rail Class 374, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 13:26, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
The KML files of the orange and green lines of BART need to be updated. May someone do that please? Thanks! - 322UbnBr2 ( Talk | Contributions | Actions) 21:13, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Following a report at ANI, I've indeffed Vu-0001 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for creating many one line stubs on railway locomotives and (more importantly) refusing to communicate. It's a pity I had to do this as their contribution history show they are able to write decent articles. Are any editors able to expand the stubs? Seem to be mostly Australian and Greek locomotive classes. Mjroots ( talk) 09:52, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I decided to link to my comment on the page here as this page should be more heavily watched. Can someone reply on the link to the page on the section above? Thanks. 54nd60x ( talk) 09:24, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi all - there are a few discussions that may interest you:
Posting here as we are all editors of transit articles, and unfortunately, the bus wikiproject is inactive and does not have the same following to attract attention. ɱ (talk) 14:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello there, how about retouching the 'Railway accidents in xxxx' template from this:
to this:
The latter is arguably:
This new template is essentially the same as {{ Aviation accidents and incidents}} currently in use at the WikiProject Aviation, which I contributed to including by introducing elements from the current Railway accidents template (namely the left/right arrow links at the bottom of the box). I think now the vice-versa would be beneficial too. What do you guys think, yay, nay? -- Deeday-UK ( talk) 13:15, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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This is the new navbox format with just location and country. Mjroots ( talk) 16:33, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
A probably unpopular take: these templates should not exist at all. The articles are very loosely related (unrelated random events that happened to take place in the same year), and they rarely link to each other. Per the guidelines at WP:NAVBOX, such loosely related articles are better served by a category and/or list article, rather than bulky navboxes. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 18:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Per some of the comments above, I added a link to the list of the current year's incidents to the bottom navbar. AlgaeGraphix ( talk) 20:02, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Please can an editor with a clue about the Moscow Metro review recent RDT changes by 108.48.189.192? I'm having difficulty resolving ambiguous links and cannot find sources for some of the additions. Thanks, Certes ( talk) 10:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Does anybody have issues of British Railway Modelling, Model Railway Journal or Railway Modeller that have features on 2 mm scale? Perhaps you can use those to improve the article 2 mm scale. Even if you can't, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2 mm scale. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
I have been advised to contact you, with regards to the information that I have entered in this section, in the hope that the referred-to line template could include the information contained therein.
Xenophon Philosopher ( talk) 18:15, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Indeed it is. I used the heading of the article/template in question that I did as that was what I read the heading to be. But thanks for seeking this clarification and I have now amended the title of this query and so hope that the information that I provided in my original query will enable the route map to be updated accordingly. Incidentally, I now appear to have a specific Wikipedia problem which you will note here as although I typed the four tildes at the end of this message, my website username has not appeared.
Xenophon Philosopher ( talk) 22:48, 10 May 2021 (UTC) 03:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Just to let you know that @AlgaeGraphix has now entered Nantwen Colliery Halt onto the route map, so that now only leaves three colliery halts outstanding. Perhaps the person who placed these onto the topography section could now assist. Thank you for pointing out my "five tildes" faux pas.
Xenophon Philosopher ( talk) 22:47, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi all! I've been working on improving Draft:Powerscourt siding for a while after it was put into draftspace, and I'd really appreciate if someone could review the article. -- LivelyRatification ( talk) 03:58, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps an article on the waiting time can be made on this ? See Talk:Vactrain#Conventional_trains_in_evacuated_tunnels -- Genetics4good ( talk) 14:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
In case in the last three days you noticed incorrectly sized or positioned text in articles (e.g. co-ordinates at the top overlapping with infoboxes, categories at the bottom displayed in an unusually large font size etc), it's an issue with the Wikimedia software that has already been reported here. -- Deeday-UK ( talk) 12:03, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
A head-on collision has occurred on the Kelana Jaya line in Malaysia, with about 150 people injured. Details sketchy at the moment, but possibly an article worthy event. Mjroots ( talk) 16:46, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, would someone with a better grasp of Chinese than me translate this title into English? It is zh:苏南沿江铁路. The best I can come up is the Jiangsu South River Bank railway? Thanks NemesisAT ( talk) 23:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Calgary Transit bus routes .
Posting here as we are all editors of transit articles, and unfortunately, the bus wikiproject is inactive and does not have the same following to attract attention.
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Hi all - about a month ago, @ Kieran207: removed platform layouts on numerous train station articles. They cited a WP:TRAINS consensus, and I asked where that was. Apparently four people supported the removals in 2019, while eight people said not to have a general policy? And the closer took this as a consensus for removal - a clear bad close, even if it's not just a numerical vote. Can we revert these edits and/or re-do the RfC? Clearly this isn't very well settled. ɱ (talk) 00:47, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
@ Ɱ:, I honestly agree with you. The reason I removed them is because other editors had removed them citing the same consensus. The diagrams are fine additions, but NOTGUIDE may still be an issue. I would be more than happy with a new RfC.-- 🌀 Kieran207- talk 🌀 12:19, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
We've had these discussions on about a yearly basis since 2014. The general consensus every time has been:
Based on this, I fully support Kieran207's removal of these diagrams; when their edits have crossed my watchlist, it has been for simple stations where a diagram is not needed. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 22:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I have removed a bunch of these diagrams, most of them on simple stations but some were more complex with more than two platforms. Personally, I don't like them. I've never edited them myself and the syntax isn't exactly inviting. I used a screenreader to read the diagram at Caochangmen – Nanjing University of the Arts – Jiangsu Second Normal University station and it wasn't as bad as I expected it to be though I think (if we do keep the diagrams) there ought to be headings (like "Level", "Line", "Direction of travel", etc) to make the contents clearer to screen reader users. I have added some prose to Caochangmen – Nanjing University of the Arts – Jiangsu Second Normal University station, I think my wording is a bit poor but something similar to what I've added could replace the layout diagrams. My vote would be to remove all station layout diagrams (unless the layout is particularly notable or unusual) and replace them with prose. NemesisAT ( talk) 15:51, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
For a station such as Fuzhou South railway station, should the station layout be kept or removed? I'm also looking for others' opinions on multiple infoboxes as seen in that article. Personally I really don't like them. They have created a load of whitespace, and its more work to keep them all updated. Changsha South railway station has four (!!) infoboxes. When metro and railway stations share an article, I'd like them to only use one infobox. Thoughts? NemesisAT ( talk) 11:03, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
An edit at Newton Highlands station caused a module error so I reverted the edit. However there was also this edit which seemed problematic so I reverted it as well. Someone who understands the topic might like to check other edits which seem to involve unexplained changes. Johnuniq ( talk) 04:41, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Well I did notice that the highland branch had the error even before I made the edits so it was not me who caused error text on the historic Highland Branch. RedProofHill123 ( talk) 12:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
I was asked to report train-related articles here for comment. I am happy to do so, assuming this project is active enough for useful comments to be generated :) Anyway, I am considering nominating the following articles for deletion, but I'd be of course happier to see them improved instead. Kylpor ejector, Underframe, Dragbox. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:46, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
I just noticed something odd about NYC car model numbers. It took about 170 years to get from R1 to R46 (which were introduced when I was a kid). Now, roughly 50 years later, we're already up to R211. Why are we burning through model numbers so fast? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:45, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
The article Qishuyan railway station has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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Jeepday ( talk) 12:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
When quoting train lengths, height and widths, should we be adopting a consistent unit of measure, i.e. all in metres, centimetres or millimetres rather than a mix of more than one. Point in case being this one that quotes the length in metres and the width and height in millimetres. Would have thought using metres across the board to a consistent decimal point level was preferable, i.e [3]. Think quoting the width as 3,034 millimetres is unduly precise, when 3.03 metres would be quite adequate. Thoughts? Jeistyphade ( talk) 06:21, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Logos of rail transport companies of China.
Sam
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18:09, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
I've made a (small) dent in the assessment backlog, and from what I've seen the vast majority of the articles missing assessments are stubs or at best starts, and almost all are low importance. Is there a way we can automate assessments for these, say by having all articles with a total word count below a certain number automatically being classified as stubs?
Additionally, for going through the backlog manually, are there certain kinds of articles that should be prioritized for assessment? There's over 8,000 articles missing importance assessments, and over 2,000 missing quality assessments. Is one more important than the other? Assuming 1 minute per assessment (rather generous) it would still take close to 200 hours to go through all of the assessments manually. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:21, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Would some other editors be willing to watchlist Coaster (commuter rail)? I'm having a hard time convincing several editors not to add trivia, personal observations, etc. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 01:51, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
I have over the past few days looked over and tried to make improvements to a lot of the GE and EMD diesel locomotives articles, and I have noticed an alarming number of these articles list references and/or external links that in my view are not acceptable for Wikipedia per WP:FANSITE and WP:SELFPUBLISH. Some examples include utahrails.net, trainweb.org, and alaskarails.org. Do we have a general policy on if these sources are considered acceptable, and if not, should we as a WikiProject decide on one?
I'm debating having a request for comment for this, but for now I'm just going to create this new section and see what other editors have to say on the subject. There are a lot of articles that a change in allowing these sources would affect, so I want to solicit other editors' views before potentially removing them. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Discussions from 2020 on these questions (mostly involving myself and Graywalls, though others participated):
I don't know that much came of these discussions, aside from reaffirming that linking out to railfanning sites doesn't offend WP:ELNO. Mackensen (talk) 22:50, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
I have proposed that the article EMD GP39DC be merged into EMD GP39. I'd appreciate some feedback on the proposed merger at Talk:EMD GP39. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:56, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Assistance required in identifying the classes of train involved in the Milavče train collision please (photos in quoted sources). Mjroots ( talk) 11:56, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Starter for ten? - {{ Photomontage}} - This may have been tried and not working? Djm-leighpark ( talk) 20:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC) Djm-leighpark ( talk)
Question out of curiosity: where does the DB in "DB Class 223" come from? I've never heard someone referring to them as DB Class 223, mostly just "Baureihe 223" (Class 223) or "ER20". Btw, the ČD Class 844 is part of the Pesa Link family, so I changed the redirect target. Nyamo Kurosawa ( talk) 16:12, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I have been back and forth with LeoFrank at Mumbai Rajdhani Express for a while now and they haven't responded to my message at Talk:Mumbai Rajdhani Express so I thought I'd bring this article to the attention of the project so others can share their thoughts if they like. Since November 2018 they have been removing content from this page, citing WP:NOTTRAVEL or claiming it is unencyclopedic. They have also claimed the content they are removing is sourced by blogs or at other times, user-generated content. Yes, some sources may be user-generated, but I'm fairly certain India Times and official Indian government websites are not. Now apparently, it's all unencyclopedic and with a vague personal attack in the latest summary I decided to seek others opinions. I'm not claiming all content added to this article should be kept, but I'm just uncomfortable with the mass-content removal going on here and think at least some of it is valuable and encyclopedic. Thank you NemesisAT ( talk) 17:29, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hitachi Rail Italy/Archive 1#Requested move 12 August 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 14:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
The Railway Preservation Society of Ireland article has recently been gutted. As I understand the situation, the main issue was serious BLP violations, with COI editing and PRIMARY also of concern. I fully support the gutting of the article, but also support its reconstruction. As I said at the talk page, there should be plenty of independent sources to enable a decent article to be written. Mjroots ( talk) 05:01, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
An editor has proposed to merge China Railways ND5 into GE C36-7. The editor forgot to add the templates to the articles for the proposed merger, and while I've done so now so they will show up in article alerts tomorrow, I'd like to invite other editors to comment on the proposed merger [5]. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 15:33, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Does anybody have any independent third-party reliable sources for this company that Fzlmhd2016 ( talk · contribs) is insistent be included in List of locomotive builders? We don't have an article, so it's a redlink, so per WP:WTAF it shouldn't be added to a list yet. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 08:49, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to get some feedback on if these large tables of locomotive production, for example, EMD GP9#Original buyers are encyclopedic. There has been disagreement on talk pages and elsewhere as to if these tables are valid additions to articles, or are unencyclopedic and make articles unreadable (the giant table in the GP9 article, for example). I am considering an RFC, but if we can come to a consensus here instead I would prefer that. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 16:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if anyone around here could help me find more information about an Erie and Ontario Railway (specifically the one mentioned here [8]). Do we already have an article about this or would I need to add it to Wikipedia:Requested Articles? Clovermoss (talk) 01:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Is there a convention as to whether towns mentioned in the lead of an article on a railway line should link to the town or to the station? I see that East Lancashire line "runs between Preston..." which was originally a link to Preston, Lancashire but since at least 2008 has linked to Preston railway station. Other links are consistent, all from placenames to stations. Is the reader of the article more likely to want to know about the town or the station? I tried to find a comparable featured article, and note that City and South London Railway goes from the City of London ... was extended to Morden... etc, in its lead.
I wondered whether there is an MOS, guideline or model for railway line articles which has anything to say on this? (Pinging @ DragonofBatley: for info, as it's an article he has edited recently, though these links are long-established). Pam D 08:54, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
But if it helps I would revisit the lead and just link Preston, Blackburn, Accrington, Burnley, Nelson and Colne. As Burnley has two stations on the line at Manchester Road and Barracks. But then maybe just say Burnley and part of Pendle in Lancashire.
Gives both towns a mention then or just link Hydburn and Pendle as the lines run through these anyway. I think big centres like Nelson should be in the lead as it is informative or maybe split the lead between the main line from Preston to Leeds and Burnley to Colne.
As the line has two separate lines from Burnley Manchester Road station. It be more formative to split the two lines as one goes to Colne and the other to Leeds and Bradford among other destinations.
So maybe a two lead could go "Preston to Leeds via Blackburn Accrington and Burnley. Another part of the line runs along part of the former Leeds and Bradford Extension Railway to Colne via Nelson."
There's one lead idea? @ PamD: as that would give the main through route and the branch part to Colne both a mention?
Hope this helps DragonofBatley ( talk) 09:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
I have been using Special:Recentchangeslinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Recent changes to attempt to patrol new changes to articles within WP Trains, but I noticed that many articles were not showing up under recent changes. It turns out that the list Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Recent changes has not been updated at all since 2012. Is there a way we can get a bot to update this? The page says it is designed to be updated weekly by a bot but that is not happening. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 15:41, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
I am working on a draft ( User:Trainsandotherthings/Draft:Railroads_in_New_England) of an article I hope will eventually contain a thorough history of railroads in New England. At the moment however, it is not ready for article space because it has some major holes in the timeline (chiefly in the 1800s) and needs many more citations. Any contributions other editors are able to make would be greatly appreciated. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 00:25, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Cincinnati, Lebanon and Northern Railway for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 04:27, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I have been trying to make the clunky (machine?-) translations from German to English in articles on the Nuremberg U-Bahn (particularly U1 (Nuremberg U-Bahn) and Nuremberg U-Bahn itself) more readable, but it's still a long ways to go and I may not be the most suitable for the job, because I myself am a German native speaker who only learned English later. Could some of y'all try and help out, please? Hobbitschuster ( talk) 08:40, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
An editor has requested for AVE Class 100 to be moved to Renfe Class 100. Since you had some involvement with AVE Class 100, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
An editor has requested for AVE Class 102 to be moved to Renfe Class 102. Since you had some involvement with AVE Class 102, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
An editor has requested for AVE Class 103 to be moved to Renfe Class 103. Since you had some involvement with AVE Class 103, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
Havelock Jones ( talk) 13:20, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I remember at some point there was a mass change of Foo Line to Foo line. Did we have an RfC leading to this change? Thanks.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 18:56, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Yesterday, I had to remove major instances of copyright violations on Pan Am Railways and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway. This has left major holes in the articles, and I could use help putting them back together properly. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:17, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
The now abandoned town of Pino Grande, California, is best remembered as the home of the Michigan-California Lumber Company, which operated one of the last forest railways in the Sierra Nevada. An experienced editor has deleted the roster of Shay locomotives used by the company, allegedly "removing superfluous info". I would value a discussion about locomotive rosters on that talk page (or elsewhere, as appropriate). Thewellman ( talk) 23:47, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion underway to change the article name from New York City Subway to New York City subway. Cards 84664 12:58, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Please see this discussion thread about 1,200 untranscluded subpages of {{ S-line}} and respond there if you have thoughts. That page has only 32 watchers, so I am posting a notice here in the hope that at least some of this page's 437 watchers are active. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 05:04, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
There is currently an informal discussion concerning the article title at Talk:Track (rail transport)#Name consideration to those interested. -- Otr500 ( talk) 06:17, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Türkmendemirýollary#Requested move 2 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR talk 03:14, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
I was just garnering my interest into some of the old railway around Midlands and noticed this article. This article seems to lack any real notability or sources/expansion. Maybe this article would be better merged into either the Sutton Park Line or Wolverhampton and Walsall Railway due to it being merely a small branch line which did not have a long life span. Thoughts? DragonofBatley ( talk) 11:54, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
I am launching an effort to improve what may be the single most important article of this Wikiproject: Train itself. I'd appreciate feedback and suggestions at Talk:Train#Article rewrite, or just feel free to make improvements of course. Thanks! Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:39, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
I've nominated the Category:Railway accidents involving a disregarded signal for renaming. Discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 November 2#Category:Railway accidents involving a disregarded signal. Mjroots ( talk) 18:32, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:New York City Subway#Requested move 14 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 13:04, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi all. Just over from the Cricket Project. The above chap played first-class cricket but was also a notable railway industrialist, so I'm just leaving him here if anyone wishes to expand his article. Cheers, StickyWicket ( talk) 21:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I have BOLDly split content from Train to the page Passenger train, to be analogous with Rail freight transport. I'm looking for contributors to help clean up and expand the new article, particularly to provide a more international perspective. Thanks! Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 17:25, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
This morning (morning on the U.S. east coast, anyhow), I talked with User:Mackensen about bad additions to the locomotive roster on EMD GP38-2 at that article's talk page. We both weighed in that we are leaning towards supporting the deprecation of "original owners"/"original buyers" sections on locomotive articles, as they end up attracting lots of unsourced or incorrect information, along with excessive detail. Take a look at this extreme example of how much of a problem they can become, which I took a sledgehammer to a month ago. There's a few options we can choose from, as a WikiProject:
No change: Do not make any changes to how we handle locomotive production rosters.
Keep rosters, but slim them down to only the essentials: the railroads that bought them, which models they bought, if applicable, the number each bought, and their road numbers, and nothing else (basically, no more "notes" sections). This is how the roster on EMD F40PH, a good article (both in that it passed GA and it is a well written article in general) is set up.
Deprecate rosters entirely: Remove them from all articles on locomotive models, and include mention of significant buyers in the prose instead of in tables.
I'm posing the question here to get input from other editors because I don't want to go around deleting or slimming down all the rosters without discussing, though if it were up to me I'd prefer the second or third option, as opposed to maintaining the status quo. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 04:34, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello good folks at WikiProject Trains,
I mostly create & update RouteMap templates for Indian Railways .
I am in a certain dilemma for which I require your help. There are some stations which serve both suburban and long distance trains in India. Some suburban sections, like the Howrah–Bardhaman main line for example, are an integral part of long distance lines (in this case the Howrah–Delhi main line).
For those stations do we use the icon
(which is used for suburban stations) or do we use the icon
(normal long distance trains) or do we use them both (like done
here for
Sealdah.)?
If not any of them do we have any icon that provides both these functionalities ?
Regards, GoldenDragon2293Return ( talk) 07:50, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I've been a bit frustrated lately with edits like this one moving the adjacent stations boxes from the bottom of the article to the infobox. I prefer them to be above the navboxes as there's more space and so the contents is less crushed. It works much better for stations on multiple lines especially, IMO. Is there a general preference among editors? NemesisAT ( talk) 22:49, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
So with the split opinions here, should we just leave it up to the article creator? Or perhaps create a guideline that suggests stations on more than X lines should have the boxes at the bottom of the article? NemesisAT ( talk) 13:21, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with notability/sourcing requirements for light rail station entries, but I was surprised to see red links for most of Guadalajara light rail system. There are articles for a couple of stations but none of the others. Do any project members have a sense of whether or not there should be standalone articles for these stations? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 03:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Could someone familiar with the usual rail templates please have a look at Mettupalayam railway station? WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:14, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Could someone familiar with rail station notability guidelines and citation have a look at this article, please? I noticed that it didn't appear at all in one of the citations on the page (since removed). I managed to confirm that a station exists with this name and you can buy tickets to it on the DB website, but even DB doesn't appear to have any information on it at all so I'm not sure where any of this is coming from.
Also, the way I read the notability guidelines, this doesn't pass them at all. But that surely can't be true in practice, since I've seen so many of these rail station stubs. Would anyone here be able to explain? Thank you! -- asilvering ( talk) 18:25, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
{{ Infobox Paris Metro line}} is a wrapper for {{ Infobox rail line}}. It has a parameter conducting_system which displays as Conduction system and relates to how the line is operated.
None of the definitions at Conductor#Transport related covers this use. Would calling it driving_system and displaying Driving system be better or is a conductor on the Metro different from a driver? -- Cavrdg ( talk) 07:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
in Slovakia for the main purpose - try to manage the actual information about the company and upgrade the data, which can help the customers and the habitant as well for the projects or for their own knowledge. I had tried to change and update the newest data and information about the ZSSK profile in the English version. Link: /info/en/?search=%C5%BDelezni%C4%8Dn%C3%A1_spolo%C4%8Dnos%C5%A5_Slovensko I had tried to give after every paragraph citation with the source. I found out that you recommend "Avoid embedded links". Unfortunately, mandatory of our sources are web links. Do you mind giving me advice and showing examples of how to make it correctly? Or to push it somehow? Cause this article is quite old and has not been updated for a years. Adrianamala ( talk) 10:25, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
This is a friendly note to say that I have nominated a group of 60+ unused train templates for deletion. My understanding is that these templates have been replaced as part of a project to migrate uses of these individual templates to use {{ Adjacent stations}} instead. If there are any templates on the list that I have nominated in error because of my lack of understanding, please post a note at that discussion, and I will modify the nomination accordingly. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 16:43, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Blue Line {{rint|chennai|blue}}
how do I create this? I wanted to create rail interchange template for other systems.
Footy2000 (
talk) 09:50, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Footy2000 (
talk)
09:55, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Can anyone explain why there are both Category:High-speed rail in X and Category:High-speed railway lines in X for many countries? Useddenim ( talk) 21:50, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I have a specific interest in Australian railways but I lack knowledge of railways in other countries and I was just wondering if we would be able to get an Australian subcategory under Category:Stub-Class rail transport articles? and Category:Start-Class rail transport articles The majority of Australian railway-related articles I have seen are either start or stub class and I would love to help improve them! I'm new to this WikiProject and being a participant in WikiProjects in general so I am not sure whether this was the appropriate place to request a subcategory, or whether I am meant to just create one or what the correct procedure is. Thanks in advance! BakuFromAus ( talk) 13:26, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
The Route Diagram Template for Amtrak's Southwest Chief was vandalized by a robot by including the now-cancelled reroute of the train through Amarillo, TX in the template. I'm running into problems undoing the vandalism myself, so can someone else do it for me. That would be appreciated. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wof2500 ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
I have raised a concern regarding editing on at editing of the Railway Preservation Society of Ireland article, to which I am too involved, at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Railway Preservation Society of Ireland. Neutrals are welcome to assist at that article or that discussion. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 23:26, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm looking for more reviewers for my FAC, Cedar Hill Yard. The review is located at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cedar Hill Yard/archive1. Thanks in advance. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 21:04, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Александр Мотин has requested his CBAN be lifted. The discussion is at WP:AN#Александр Мотин unban request. Members of this WP may remember that this editor was involved in moving numerous Russian railway line articles. Mjroots ( talk) 18:06, 29 December 2021 (UTC)