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There is a request for a more extensive background section. I'd appreciate it if somebody could write one (don't forget about refs). Thanks, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Please see here. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 12:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Cirt ( talk) 06:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Please do something with the huge text in the page Category:Counts of Poland. - Altenmann >t 23:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Please help move this gallery to commons:Jan Matejko, I've just spend an hour moving half the pictures. The pics are mostly there - in most cases we just need to move the descriptions. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 09:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
The user Kurfürst is war editing on the Strategic bombing during World War II and Bombing of Wieluń pages pushing controversial things. He also went to report me to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents for incivility, and now he came out with the good old 'Polish tag team' invention and some threath for Request for Arbitration or something. I advise to be utmost careful with this user because I have a feeling he's trying to provoke Polish editors to make overreactions. Loosmark ( talk) 21:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
A lot of articles on Poland's foreign relations have been declared unimportant and merged/deleted, see [1]. Perhaps Poland-South Korea relations are not important, but I think at the very least inter-EU relations (Poland-Denmark, Poland-Estonia, Poland-Finland, Poland-Italy, Poland-Greece, Poland-Ireland]] should be restored. Comments? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I was just cleaning up the links to articles that no longer exist (erased/merged) but I have nothing to do with the process of their removal.-- Avala ( talk) 11:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Something funny for the Polish-speaking editors: [2] - it could be fun if somebody translates it into English. For the Engish-speaking: one can write a good, interesting article not only about political relations, but even one about litterary relations between Poland and Mongolia. Laforgue ( talk) 15:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
There is a problem on the page, an editor removed a sourced image without an explanation. I reverted the change with a comment asking him to discuss on the talk page before making such deletions but now he just deleted it again with the comment "removing crap image". Loosmark ( talk) 19:41, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
edit: ok now maybe he'll discuss it on the talk page. Loosmark ( talk) 19:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
why is the article Massacre of Lviv professors rated as low-importance? Loosmark ( talk) 22:41, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Writing a biography on Moshe Kelmer, I can only find his birthplace written in Hebrew (זארלין), which transliterates (possibly as the niqqud are not present) as Zarlin. Is there anywhere in Poland by that name? Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 20:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I obtained permission from Anna M. Cienciala, the author of those extensive course notes to use them on Wikipedia under an appopriate free license. Feel free to use this resource, we may also want to move it - probably to Wikibooks, wikify and polish (no pun intended :D). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Dariusz Krzysztof Zawislak is an improved but recreated former AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dariusz Zawiślak. One one hand, the article now looks notable, on the other, the previous deleted article was a part of the multiple-languages wiki self-promotion spam spree. It should probably be moved and redirects created, but should it go through another round of AfD? My inclusionist nature is in conflict with the part that dislikes self-promoting socks (I doubt that account is going to add anything else to Wikipedia but promoting material for Zawislak career...). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I've spent the last two months working on revamping the Portal:Poland. Some of you may have already noticed, but now I think it's in a state where maintaining the portal and adding new material should be relatively easy for anyone who might be interested, so I'm advertising the portal here. I also nominated it for Portal peer review, so you can say what you think about it there. — Kpalion (talk) 09:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Stanisław Koniecpolski for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Nishkid64 ( Make articles, not wikidrama) 14:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Some Ukrainian editor is making major changes to that article and IMO after every edit the article worsen. The latest perle is an edit adding explanation from some source that the Poles planed "that Volhynia would have to be returned to Poland after the war" (part of occupied Poland would return to Poland - what a devilish plan!) with the following comment: "Polish plans are relevent here; as the massacres served to preempt such plans". Loosmark ( talk) 15:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Lot's of fun :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Several towns, like Tczew, start with Tcz. Are these pronounced as if Cz? I suspect the IPA is currently wrong. kwami ( talk) 12:18, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I have reviewed Polish cochineal for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since the article falls under the scope of this project, I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 23:09, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
To group together the native Lechitic-speaking peoples of Poland, I made a category titled "Lechites" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lechites I think this is probably the least controversial title, since some people believe Silesians and Kashubians are separate groups from Poles, however, it's undisputed that these three peoples all speak a Lechitic language, right? Or alternatively, the category could be titled "West Slavic native peoples of Poland"? But I think that's probably too long... Opinions? Msamj ( talk) 05:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Please see Talk:History_of_Poland#Article_length. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Since this is a very important article, I wanted to bring it by here to alert contributors that a copyright problem has been identified in the "history" section. There's more detail at the article's talk page. I thought that contributors familiar with the city and its history might be in a better position to rewrite or remove this material while retaining the integrity of the article. The problematic section has been blanked to allow that clean-up, since once the problem is identified we can't continue to publish the problematic text. Any assistance with clean-up here would be much appreciated. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:39, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
I’m in a quandary here. I think your joint opinion might be of need. We used to have a series of stubs about the Districts of Kraków; not much, but every one had at least a potential for future expansion (similar to the already expanded Nowa Huta, Kraków - Stare Miasto, Podgórze etc.). Most of these stubs have been combined into a single article called Districts of Kraków as of July 24 by our friend User:SilkTork. What’s left is a bunch of redirects to that one article. – I like the new complete listing, but on the other hand, I also miss the independent status of each district. Combining them was a bold move, with no discussion at this board. So, please take a closer look at the new article and share your thoughts with the rest of us. Ask yourself, does it work for you? Is this better for the city's coverage, etc? And, thanks in advance for your feedback. -- Poeticbent talk 04:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Being unfamiliar with this WikiProject, I may be telling you something you already know, but I just noticed that there are two Polish politician infobox templates: {{ Polish politician infobox}} and {{ Infobox Polish politicians}}. — Paul A ( talk) 03:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
See commons:Category:Unidentified locations in Poland. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
The above article currently only has one citation. I did have a quick Google search on him, but all the hits I saw were in Polish, which I can't read.
Would someone be able to help find WP:RELIABLE sources of information to cite in this article?
Thanks, -- PhantomSteve ( Contact Me, My Contribs) 19:06, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Stanisław Lem/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells ( talk) 15:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
I nominated Portal: Poland for featured portal status. Please share your comments on the portal on the nomination page. — Kpalion (talk) 10:13, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
In the near future I'm going to try and get as much red out as I can out of this list Cursed_soldiers#Notable_members. A lot of these guys have corresponding Polish wiki articles so a good bit of this is mostly just translation. The problem is that a lot of the Polish wiki articles are not well cited so a bit of digging for some sources would be much, much, appreciated. I'm going to stub most of them and it'd be great if people can help on expanding some of the stubs. Thanks! radek ( talk) 23:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
New tools have became available for WikiProject maintenance, I am subscribing us to popular pages listing and cleanup listing. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
User:J Milburn has tagged a series of AK related images (affected images can be seen at Halibutt's page starting from here) for deletion as according to him they don't have a sufficient fair use rationale and/or are simply "not important" and "don't contribute much to the articles". I disagree, as I believe those images are vital for illustration of affected articles - see our discussion at User_talk:J_Milburn#Armia_Krajowa_images and User_talk:Piotrus#File:CaptMruk_recce_Soviet_Aug1944_Rad-Kie.jpg. Since we cannot reach a consensus, we would like more opinions on that. Comments and thoughts appreciated. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Please add those to your watchlist, they are regularly vandalized by an anon (same but dynamic IP) spamming http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/ and I am sad to say I missed the last series of vandalism and AL was vandalized for 2 months. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I've just learned about this. Hmmm.... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:28, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
pl:Bitwa na Porytowym Wzgórzu? It was a lead up to Battle of Osuchy I think. If not, is there a translation for "Porytowe Wzgorze"? radek ( talk) 00:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
what a disgrace [4]. should we mention that in some article? Loosmark ( talk) 10:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
The article on this venerable U.S. West Coast Polonia institution has been nominated for deletion on account of the Club's alleged non-notability. The article's deletion would be a shame. Perhaps someone has access to evidence for the Club's "notability"? Nihil novi ( talk) 04:53, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Many Polish cities were constructed and ruled by non-Poles, the tradesmen were also frequently non-Poles. I believe that many articles about Polish cities don't inform about ethnicity of their inhabitants. Xx236 ( talk) 06:22, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello friends. For those interested in football, and not only in history and politics, I have the news. I nominated several Polish football categories for renaming. Feel free to vote and opine here. - Darwinek ( talk) 15:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Polish POW's in the Soviet captivity & Polish prisoners and internees in Soviet Union and Lithuania (1919–1921) almost certainly should be merged, but I'm not sure either about one or both of Camps for Russian prisoners and internees in Poland (1919–1924) & Camps for soldiers of the UNR Army interned in Poland (1919-1924). Found one of them on prod, but some sort of merge seems to be the solution. I'm not the best qualified person to do this. DGG ( talk ) 01:54, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest to use the same convention to name the articles about the 1939 invasions of Poland and rename:
Any comments ? -- Lysy talk 08:55, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
The article doesn't inform about post-"Liberation" repressions. Xx236 ( talk) 09:24, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Invasion of Poland (1939) for Featured article review due to a number of, hopefully, resolvable issues that exist in the article. -- Labattblueboy ( talk) 02:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Is everyone here aware that there is a Polish History Task Force that was originally a WikiProject but was taskforcized into WikiProject European History? The Task Force (and the European History Project, for that matter) could definitely use some more interested editors.-- Doug.( talk • contribs) 21:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Gayk Bzhishkyan - Isn't the phrase derogatory? Xx236 ( talk) 09:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll not have access to this till XMAS. If you do, please consider adding refs/clarifications to Stanisław Koniecpolski, so it can regain its Featured status. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:41, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Michał Korybut Wiśniowiecki and Talk:Jadwiga Jagiellon (1513–1573) can use your input. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:53, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Xx236 ( talk) 13:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
You have the link to Bombing of Wieluń and long lists of edits both of the article and discussion. Xx236 ( talk) 06:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
BTW, Szymon Datner says that the Luftwaffe destroied totally or partially about 150 towns. I don't have the exact quote nor original source (around 1960). Xx236 ( talk) 07:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
The article whitewashes Soviet Union misquoting Cienciala, twice. Xx236 ( talk) 07:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I recently began a centralized discussion for the renaming of population transfer or forced migrations relating to WWII. Users in this area have shown interest in the topic in the past so I wanted to bring the discussion at Talk:World_War_II_evacuation_and_expulsion#Requested_move to your attention. -- Labattblueboy ( talk) 13:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
According to Rudy Rummel [5] Poland (not Communist Poland or Bierut's Slaughterhouse) was a lesser megamurderer. Rummel's texts are quoted e.g. in Expulsion of Germans after World War II. I'm not a fan of Communist Poland but the numbers given by Rummel are absurd. The majority of the victims died during the war, before any Polish administration was created in given area. Xx236 ( talk) 08:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Following recent changes by some editors to the Wikipedia:Naming conventions policy page, a Request For Comment, (RFC) is now being held to debate the removal of the passage specifying that individual WikiProject and other naming conventions are able to make exceptions to the standard policy of using Common Names as the titles of Wikipedia articles.
This WikiProject is being notified since it operates such a specific naming convention. Editors are invited to comment on the proposed change at this location. Xan dar 01:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
The author uses German names of Polish cities, eg. Rawitsch. The author wages a war against me. Xx236 ( talk) 13:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Result_concerning_Xx236
Thank you for those who have supported me. Xx236 ( talk) 07:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
An editor has removed POV tag from a number of articles, winning his war. Xx236 ( talk) 13:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Collectivization in the Soviet Union: "According to official Soviet figures some 24 million peasants disappeared from rural areas". This includes extermination and transfer of at least 200 000 ethnic Poles. 24 million is more than 12 million, isn't it? The only way to "prove" that 12 million is more than 24 million is to say that Collectivization wasn't a population transfer. The same German actions during WWII caused the expulsion of more than 12 million people. Xx236 ( talk) 08:44, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
According to reliable (according to Skaperod) Rummel 11 440 000 died during the collectivization [6]. Plus millions transferred by the NKVD and millions of refugees we obtain certainly more than 12 million, maybe the 24 million mentioned in the Collectivization in the Soviet Union. Xx236 ( talk) 13:43, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
articulation, thus seeing German scholars as those destined to articulate single-handedly the “periphery” (Central/EasternEurope). Xx236 ( talk) 11:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC) I'm not allowed to discuss here some parts of the article. Xx236 ( talk) 11:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Does anybody know why WikiProject Poland most popular pages don't show up here? [10] Loosmark ( talk) 15:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I would highly support taking whatever steps are needed to give us a list of most popular pages. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Interested editors may want to follow and possibly join Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2009-09-15/Polish-Ukrainian WWII disputes. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I was and still is a great pleasure for me to work with you, but due to shocking developments I may be unable to do so for a while. I'd appreciate if somebody not involved in this case could take care of managing this project for a while, this really means only monitoring article news and new article announcements. The annoucements should be checked every few days, some articles need to be prodded/tagged, some need to be stubbed, few need to be nominated for DYK, their creators informed about DYK, few need to be slightly improved for DYKs (their creators can be informed of DYK and asked to do so), few creators need to be invited to join this project. Thank you, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm currently working on a List of windmills in Poland but I'm having difficulty in pinpointing exact locations in some cases. Assistance from WP Poland members would be welcome in polishing the list so that it is ready to release into mainspace. Feel free to edit and improve the list. Mjroots ( talk) 10:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Warsaw Uprising (1794) for Featured article review due to a number of issues that currently exist in the article. -- Eurocopter ( talk) 18:48, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Don't you think that we should expand Chechen_people#Geography_and_diaspora? Those sluggards are creating more and more problems, gaining national attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.31.108.36 ( talk • contribs) 04:41, September 30, 2009
I remember this article used to have a nice pic of the 3 Wilk class subs together with the two Wicher destroyers. (There is still a caption left it seems). I checked the history of the article and it seems that somebody deleted it. I don't understand how this commons work very well, could somebody please check why was the pic deleted? Loosmark ( talk) 22:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Poland to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland/Popular pages.
The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr. Z-man 00:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I have a question how will the page be update with new data, will the stats be for each month? Loosmark ( talk) 15:59, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, could someone who knows Polish and English sufficiently well please translate and add the following to the Liceum ogólnokształcące (in alphabetical order):Technikum Chemicznym, Szkole Zawodowej, Zespół Szkół Mechanicznych, Centrum Kształcenia Ustawicznego. Overall review of the article and positive edits will be appreciated. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 14:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I've been thinking about starting to fight to move back Roman Polanski to Roman Polański. Are here any people interested in helping me? Slijk ( talk) 17:00, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
As you can see from the following links, of those Wikipedias that use the Western alphabet, the number who spell his last name Polański is roughly the same as those who spell it Polanski. But as Piotrus suggested, the real question may be how the man himself spells his name. — Malik Shabazz ( talk · contribs) 22:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Please see this. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:43, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I just discovered we have a Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland/Cleanup listing. It seems like a useful automated list of to do tasks. Keep the link in mind, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Another strange thing I recently discovered, could use some cleanup and an analysis of what kind of Wikipedia scheme it is tied to. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:04, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Please could the author of this statement cite the source.
" among the Jew's lived in Dąbie nad Nerem was the jakobovich family "
thank you
¬¬¬¬ —Preceding unsigned comment added by RomaJ ( talk • contribs) 03:53, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
[12] - Jakubowicz. Xx236 ( talk) 11:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
The quoted text isn't standard English. Xx236 ( talk) 11:51, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I've chosen mały sabotaż as my newest DYK. Any thoughts on the correct name of that article? Please comment at Talk:Minor sabotage. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:33, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I have been working on the Lesser Poland article for some time now. I hope that one day it will become a Good or better Featured Article, there is a lot of work on it, but it is achievable. Help is appreciated. Tymek ( talk) 18:28, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
On the subject of my new stubs and correct names, I've just stubbed pl:Biblia Tysiąclecia to 1000-year Bible. But I cannot find any translation of the title, and considering that the Polish name doesn't use the numeral in the title, I wonder if we shouldn't move it to Thousand Year Bible (or would it be years...?). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:23, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Looking at Category:Streets in Warsaw, I see we have a right mixture of naming formats: X Street, X street, X, Ulica X, and others. How about standardizing? I propose we use the simplest form (just X, unless the street fails to be the primary topic for that name). But anything uniform would be better than the current mixture. Any preferences?-- Kotniski ( talk) 20:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else think Google Maps is a reliable source for this issue? They just go with the Polish names, apparently. For example, Piotrkowska, not Piotrkowska Street or Ul. Piotrskowska or the "fully Anglicized" Piotrków Street as suggested above [13]. This is consistent with what Kotniski originally proposed, use the simplest form (just X, unless the street fails to be the primary topic for that name), and that's what makes most sense to me. It makes the name of the topic, the name of the street, clear and obvious in the title. What the name means in English, or how it's "fully Anglicized", is all subject matter for article content, and not an appropriate use for the article title. Another advantage of this approach is that following Google Maps provides an easy to access reference.
As far as what to do when the name alone conflicts with other uses, I suggest adding simply (street) for disambiguation, unless there are two streets of that name, in which case (Warsaw street) or whatever. The reason to disambiguate this way is to leave the actual name of the topic, the name of the street, clear and obvious in the title. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 19:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
So what's the consensus? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Construction is scheduled to begin in 2000 on the Millennium Plaza Center, located at the corner of Jerozolimskie Avenue and Bitwy Warszawskiej Street, across from the Zachodni Train Station.
"X Street" hybrids jar on me. Neither fish nor fowl. I'd rather use the full original Polish name, or a complete English translation: " ulica Nowy Świat" or "New World Street"—but not "Nowy Świat Street." Nihil novi ( talk) 03:40, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
The more I look into this, the dizzier I get. Please look at the below Google Book samples, for the taste of chaos that is going on with regard to street names in Warsaw (since the mid 19th century, no less). It's a free for all, and the only hope lays in the use of modern day English language maps of Poland I believe (as with any other city: in Germany, France, etc).
All of the five magazines/newspapers that I have been involved with in editorial and/or contributor role and all of the firms which I have worked for as an editor have precisely the same rule: use ul, al. or Al. and then the Polish version of the name. Varsovian ( talk) 17:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Above an example of language rationalizing discrimination of EE editors in Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren. I don't accept being an underdog of this Wikipedia and I don't understand why other editors accept such discriminations. The logic of this Wikipedia reproduces existing stereotypes and prejudices rather thatn helps to oppose them. Polish joke says: "Polish jokes were again strengthened by German immigrant DPs (displaced persons) fleeing war-torn Europe in the late 1940s. These jokes were fuelled by ethnic slurs disseminated by German National Socialist propaganda, which attempted to justify the Nazi murder by presenting Poles as "dreck", dirty and inferior." The same mechanism works till today and I'm writing not about jokes but about some academic articles and texts in this Wikipedia. Nazi propaganda pictures contributed by the Bundesarchiv create the image of the WWII, the victims didn't have cameras to document their history. Unfortunately even some Polish immigrants accept sometimes Western POV and copy existing stereotypes and prejudices from existing "sources" rather than study a subject. If you are an Afro-American woman, you can demand respect and anti-discrimination policy but if you are a (non-Russian) Slav, you should obey, because you are weak. There are theories, eg. Postcolonialism, explaining situation of EE nations, also the editors participating in this Wikipedia.
Unfortunately some EE editors are frustrated by the discriminations, brake the rules and are banned, rather than to oppose the discriminations. Xx236 ( talk) 08:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Strange. I don't like such games. Xx236 ( talk) 14:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
History of Pomerania (1933–1945) contains plenty of errors. I have removed a number of them, but not all. Xx236 ( talk) 11:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello, this person has two articles, please help. - Peter Braun74 ( talk) 20:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Soviet invasion of Poland for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- Labattblueboy ( talk) 15:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
To quote Gustavo from 2007: "Hrabia is not a "Polish title", it is just the translation from "Count"." I tend to agree. Any objections to redirecting? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
See also: komes. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Ummm. One sentence article? I say delete via WP:PROD. Any objections? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm leaving the wikipedia project because I got tired of spending my time here. Some people like for example the obvious sock user:Varsovian (the self proclaimed "new user") can provoke and missrepresent the sources, call people idiots or ugly trolls as much they like and nothing ever happens to them. Anyway I just wanted to say thanks to everybody who worked with me on articles especially and to radeksz and jacurek, it was nice working with you guys. Loosmark ( talk) 18:55, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
WikiProject Poland needs more editors that actually live in Poland, especially Varsovians. When there is trouble with Polish editors (and when was the last time there was no trouble?), almost always expats are involved. Odd, isn't it? Gives homesickness a whole new meaning. -- Matthead Discuß 04:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to everybody for support. Unfortunately it just came to the point that editing wikipedia for me is just stress and I don't get any joy from it. As for Matthead cinical provocation above, it speaks for itself and just shows how much is wikipedia broken. Loosmark ( talk) 07:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
It's a terrible experience for me to read denuciations, this reminds me Gestapo, UB and Stasi. The basic idea of some editors is "deliver you opponent before he/she delivers you". Xx236 ( talk) 08:12, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello all. Is Dynastia Miziołków a notable Polish-language book? Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:23, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
It was a massacre, not a pogrom. Xx236 ( talk) 13:43, 2 November 2009 (UTC) Even an Israeli source says massacre http://www.israelimages.com/see_image_details.php?idi=16993 . Xx236 ( talk) 13:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Rozumice has a page marker in English and the Polish page has a substantial entry. The automatic translation garbles this entry making it almost unintellegible, not worthy of Krzysztof Gładkowski scholarship. Rozumice was once a German 'enclave' village and now is Polish. After WWII its inhabitants dispersed around the world. The last inhabitants who still have its verbal history are nearing the end of their lives. This significant villages history needs to be expanded beyond the limits of Krzysztof research to capture the collected memories before they are lost forever. How do I go about getting this page translated into the English page marker so we can expand the Polish entry?
ps. the Polish article refers to the "Leimes". These unique structure have almost disappeared from the rural scene and are worthy of a page in their own right. AnnaSomerset ( talk) 10:59, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Not necessarily for the Editors to translate, if there are other ways. I tried to follow the 'Translate into English template' page but got lost with the Polish instructions! Rather than re-write the English entry, its seems a better route to translate the Polish page and then do English additions. I was pointed to your Site but am now totally confused which way to turn. AnnaSomerset ( talk) 16:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
That is great, your help is much appreciated. Its seems the English page is slowly expanding (with a heavy Polish bias). I do realise the world is out there is knocking on Polands doors! AnnaSomerset ( talk) 15:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Please comment at Talk:Churches of Kraków whether you agree with the need to rename this article into Catholic Churches of Kraków in order to get rid of the new flag, or perhaps expand the article further with your participation. -- Poeticbent talk 05:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Category:Political repression in Nazi Germany - not only political, some other categories are needed. Xx236 ( talk) 10:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Category:People from Wrocław at CFD, nominator proposed splitting the category to Wrocław and Breslau, see [14]. Please comment and/or vote. - Darwinek ( talk) 11:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
What about Wilno/Vilnius? Xx236 ( talk) 08:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
This art is controversial due to his statement about Kościuszko as Polish and Lithuanian military leader. Art is sourced in very controversial way. There are statements of Polish and Lithuanian scholars and most important source in Britannica found Kościuszko as Polish military [15] is reverted. See discussion of art. help welcomed. Mathiasrex ( talk) 23:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Kościuszko opted for forced Polonization of peasants. Xx236 ( talk) 08:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Looking at this, I wonder if a good solution to this slow level revert warring in categories wouldn't be simply the creation of more Polish-Lithuanian categories. Ex: Category:Polish–Lithuanian engineers, Category:Polish–Lithuanian scientists, and so on. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
We already have Category:People of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:37, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Is a book written by highschool teachers a reliable source? Xx236 ( talk) 08:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Do we have any colleges in Poland? If not, I think that Category:Universities and colleges in Poland should be moved to Category:Universities in Poland; same for Category:Alumni by university or college in Poland and Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Poland. PS. I see Collegium Civitas (whose lead claims it is a university) and College of Europe with Teacher Training College of Bielsko-Biala (those two have leads claiming they are "educational institutions"). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
WikiProject Prussia claims to cooperate with this project. Does anyone know anything about such cooperation? I know about a series of enforcement requests and bans. Xx236 ( talk) 13:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, we seemed not to reach agreement about how to name articles about streets - let's see how we do with districts of cities. I'm seeing titles like Poznań-Wilda, Poznań-Nowe Miasto, Poznań-Stare Miasto - these are not what these districts are normally called even in Polish, and in English it looks even more odd (particularly when one of the hyphenated parts has a space in it). I would propose that such districts be named simply with their name, using the city name in brackets as a disambiguator if necessary (so either Wilda or Wilda (Poznań), depending on whether it's considered to be the primary topic for "Wilda"). Any comments?-- Kotniski ( talk) 12:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
So the proposal is to use names such as Wilda, Poznań or Nowe Miasto, Poznań for those districts of the city of Poznań ( Poznań-Wilda and Poznań-Nowe Miasto, as the articles are now called). Is that acceptable to everyone? I'll mention it at WT:NCGN as well.-- Kotniski ( talk) 10:57, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
How about we just go with a space instead of any punctuation? Warsaw Nowe Miasto, Warsaw Śródmieście, etc. That would work and is the same standard as is applied to station names in both Poland and England. Varsovian ( talk) 13:39, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Names like Kraków Stare Miasto, Warsaw Nowe Miasto, Poznań Wilda, etc., for the titles of all city districts would by my first choice – per examples – with plenty of internet sources. The use of a comma with a switch would be my second choice. However, there’s a different problem with former villages within the same city districts. I don’t know how best to resolve this, for example " Lubocza (Kraków)" (see below), once a borough of District Kraków Nowa Huta, now a borough of Wzgórza Krzesławickie? Such former villages incorporated into districts have their own rich templates in Polish Wikipedia, i.e. " pl: Szablon:Dzielnica XVII Wzgórza Krzesławickie" containing links to articles about historical entities such as " pl: Lubocza (Kraków)" (per above). I'm afraid English titles such as "Kraków Lubocza" or "Lubocza, Kraków" could be misleading because formally such administrative entities don't exist. I would opt for "Lubocza (Wzgórza Krzesławickie)" maybe (with a comma or with brackets to differentiate, but I'm not so sure), only to confirm their historical location. Any ideas? -- Poeticbent talk 18:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, I see we don't entirely agree on the original question, but I really think the Poznań districts (and any other similar ones - i.e. with the hyphen) ought to be changed to something other than they are now. I'm going to bring the matter up at requested moves, initially with the comma proposal, to maybe get some outside opinion.-- Kotniski ( talk) 16:56, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Now, that the Poznań-Wilda → Wilda, Poznań move has already been performed by sysop Anthony Appleyard, should we be thinking about moving and/or redirecting the Districts of Kraków as well? Feed-back appreciated. -- Poeticbent talk 19:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Many red links. Xx236 ( talk) 07:54, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I've started an article on Leon Dycian. Born in 1911, the English version of the Knesset website gives his place of birth as Poland. The Hebrew version lists it as "ינוב", Poland. Unfortunately this could be transliterated a number of ways - I/Y + A/E + N + O/U + B/V/W (so could be Yenov, Yanub or any other combination!). Given this poor level of info, does anyone have any idea where it may be referring to? Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 13:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
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There is a request for a more extensive background section. I'd appreciate it if somebody could write one (don't forget about refs). Thanks, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Please see here. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 12:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Cirt ( talk) 06:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Please do something with the huge text in the page Category:Counts of Poland. - Altenmann >t 23:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Please help move this gallery to commons:Jan Matejko, I've just spend an hour moving half the pictures. The pics are mostly there - in most cases we just need to move the descriptions. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 09:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
The user Kurfürst is war editing on the Strategic bombing during World War II and Bombing of Wieluń pages pushing controversial things. He also went to report me to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents for incivility, and now he came out with the good old 'Polish tag team' invention and some threath for Request for Arbitration or something. I advise to be utmost careful with this user because I have a feeling he's trying to provoke Polish editors to make overreactions. Loosmark ( talk) 21:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
A lot of articles on Poland's foreign relations have been declared unimportant and merged/deleted, see [1]. Perhaps Poland-South Korea relations are not important, but I think at the very least inter-EU relations (Poland-Denmark, Poland-Estonia, Poland-Finland, Poland-Italy, Poland-Greece, Poland-Ireland]] should be restored. Comments? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I was just cleaning up the links to articles that no longer exist (erased/merged) but I have nothing to do with the process of their removal.-- Avala ( talk) 11:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Something funny for the Polish-speaking editors: [2] - it could be fun if somebody translates it into English. For the Engish-speaking: one can write a good, interesting article not only about political relations, but even one about litterary relations between Poland and Mongolia. Laforgue ( talk) 15:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
There is a problem on the page, an editor removed a sourced image without an explanation. I reverted the change with a comment asking him to discuss on the talk page before making such deletions but now he just deleted it again with the comment "removing crap image". Loosmark ( talk) 19:41, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
edit: ok now maybe he'll discuss it on the talk page. Loosmark ( talk) 19:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
why is the article Massacre of Lviv professors rated as low-importance? Loosmark ( talk) 22:41, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Writing a biography on Moshe Kelmer, I can only find his birthplace written in Hebrew (זארלין), which transliterates (possibly as the niqqud are not present) as Zarlin. Is there anywhere in Poland by that name? Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 20:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I obtained permission from Anna M. Cienciala, the author of those extensive course notes to use them on Wikipedia under an appopriate free license. Feel free to use this resource, we may also want to move it - probably to Wikibooks, wikify and polish (no pun intended :D). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Dariusz Krzysztof Zawislak is an improved but recreated former AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dariusz Zawiślak. One one hand, the article now looks notable, on the other, the previous deleted article was a part of the multiple-languages wiki self-promotion spam spree. It should probably be moved and redirects created, but should it go through another round of AfD? My inclusionist nature is in conflict with the part that dislikes self-promoting socks (I doubt that account is going to add anything else to Wikipedia but promoting material for Zawislak career...). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I've spent the last two months working on revamping the Portal:Poland. Some of you may have already noticed, but now I think it's in a state where maintaining the portal and adding new material should be relatively easy for anyone who might be interested, so I'm advertising the portal here. I also nominated it for Portal peer review, so you can say what you think about it there. — Kpalion (talk) 09:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Stanisław Koniecpolski for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Nishkid64 ( Make articles, not wikidrama) 14:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Some Ukrainian editor is making major changes to that article and IMO after every edit the article worsen. The latest perle is an edit adding explanation from some source that the Poles planed "that Volhynia would have to be returned to Poland after the war" (part of occupied Poland would return to Poland - what a devilish plan!) with the following comment: "Polish plans are relevent here; as the massacres served to preempt such plans". Loosmark ( talk) 15:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Lot's of fun :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Several towns, like Tczew, start with Tcz. Are these pronounced as if Cz? I suspect the IPA is currently wrong. kwami ( talk) 12:18, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I have reviewed Polish cochineal for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since the article falls under the scope of this project, I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 23:09, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
To group together the native Lechitic-speaking peoples of Poland, I made a category titled "Lechites" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lechites I think this is probably the least controversial title, since some people believe Silesians and Kashubians are separate groups from Poles, however, it's undisputed that these three peoples all speak a Lechitic language, right? Or alternatively, the category could be titled "West Slavic native peoples of Poland"? But I think that's probably too long... Opinions? Msamj ( talk) 05:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Please see Talk:History_of_Poland#Article_length. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Since this is a very important article, I wanted to bring it by here to alert contributors that a copyright problem has been identified in the "history" section. There's more detail at the article's talk page. I thought that contributors familiar with the city and its history might be in a better position to rewrite or remove this material while retaining the integrity of the article. The problematic section has been blanked to allow that clean-up, since once the problem is identified we can't continue to publish the problematic text. Any assistance with clean-up here would be much appreciated. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:39, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
I’m in a quandary here. I think your joint opinion might be of need. We used to have a series of stubs about the Districts of Kraków; not much, but every one had at least a potential for future expansion (similar to the already expanded Nowa Huta, Kraków - Stare Miasto, Podgórze etc.). Most of these stubs have been combined into a single article called Districts of Kraków as of July 24 by our friend User:SilkTork. What’s left is a bunch of redirects to that one article. – I like the new complete listing, but on the other hand, I also miss the independent status of each district. Combining them was a bold move, with no discussion at this board. So, please take a closer look at the new article and share your thoughts with the rest of us. Ask yourself, does it work for you? Is this better for the city's coverage, etc? And, thanks in advance for your feedback. -- Poeticbent talk 04:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Being unfamiliar with this WikiProject, I may be telling you something you already know, but I just noticed that there are two Polish politician infobox templates: {{ Polish politician infobox}} and {{ Infobox Polish politicians}}. — Paul A ( talk) 03:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
See commons:Category:Unidentified locations in Poland. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
The above article currently only has one citation. I did have a quick Google search on him, but all the hits I saw were in Polish, which I can't read.
Would someone be able to help find WP:RELIABLE sources of information to cite in this article?
Thanks, -- PhantomSteve ( Contact Me, My Contribs) 19:06, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Stanisław Lem/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells ( talk) 15:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
I nominated Portal: Poland for featured portal status. Please share your comments on the portal on the nomination page. — Kpalion (talk) 10:13, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
In the near future I'm going to try and get as much red out as I can out of this list Cursed_soldiers#Notable_members. A lot of these guys have corresponding Polish wiki articles so a good bit of this is mostly just translation. The problem is that a lot of the Polish wiki articles are not well cited so a bit of digging for some sources would be much, much, appreciated. I'm going to stub most of them and it'd be great if people can help on expanding some of the stubs. Thanks! radek ( talk) 23:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
New tools have became available for WikiProject maintenance, I am subscribing us to popular pages listing and cleanup listing. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
User:J Milburn has tagged a series of AK related images (affected images can be seen at Halibutt's page starting from here) for deletion as according to him they don't have a sufficient fair use rationale and/or are simply "not important" and "don't contribute much to the articles". I disagree, as I believe those images are vital for illustration of affected articles - see our discussion at User_talk:J_Milburn#Armia_Krajowa_images and User_talk:Piotrus#File:CaptMruk_recce_Soviet_Aug1944_Rad-Kie.jpg. Since we cannot reach a consensus, we would like more opinions on that. Comments and thoughts appreciated. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Please add those to your watchlist, they are regularly vandalized by an anon (same but dynamic IP) spamming http://wolnapolska.boom.ru/ and I am sad to say I missed the last series of vandalism and AL was vandalized for 2 months. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I've just learned about this. Hmmm.... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:28, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
pl:Bitwa na Porytowym Wzgórzu? It was a lead up to Battle of Osuchy I think. If not, is there a translation for "Porytowe Wzgorze"? radek ( talk) 00:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
what a disgrace [4]. should we mention that in some article? Loosmark ( talk) 10:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
The article on this venerable U.S. West Coast Polonia institution has been nominated for deletion on account of the Club's alleged non-notability. The article's deletion would be a shame. Perhaps someone has access to evidence for the Club's "notability"? Nihil novi ( talk) 04:53, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Many Polish cities were constructed and ruled by non-Poles, the tradesmen were also frequently non-Poles. I believe that many articles about Polish cities don't inform about ethnicity of their inhabitants. Xx236 ( talk) 06:22, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello friends. For those interested in football, and not only in history and politics, I have the news. I nominated several Polish football categories for renaming. Feel free to vote and opine here. - Darwinek ( talk) 15:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Polish POW's in the Soviet captivity & Polish prisoners and internees in Soviet Union and Lithuania (1919–1921) almost certainly should be merged, but I'm not sure either about one or both of Camps for Russian prisoners and internees in Poland (1919–1924) & Camps for soldiers of the UNR Army interned in Poland (1919-1924). Found one of them on prod, but some sort of merge seems to be the solution. I'm not the best qualified person to do this. DGG ( talk ) 01:54, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest to use the same convention to name the articles about the 1939 invasions of Poland and rename:
Any comments ? -- Lysy talk 08:55, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
The article doesn't inform about post-"Liberation" repressions. Xx236 ( talk) 09:24, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Invasion of Poland (1939) for Featured article review due to a number of, hopefully, resolvable issues that exist in the article. -- Labattblueboy ( talk) 02:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Is everyone here aware that there is a Polish History Task Force that was originally a WikiProject but was taskforcized into WikiProject European History? The Task Force (and the European History Project, for that matter) could definitely use some more interested editors.-- Doug.( talk • contribs) 21:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Gayk Bzhishkyan - Isn't the phrase derogatory? Xx236 ( talk) 09:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll not have access to this till XMAS. If you do, please consider adding refs/clarifications to Stanisław Koniecpolski, so it can regain its Featured status. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:41, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Michał Korybut Wiśniowiecki and Talk:Jadwiga Jagiellon (1513–1573) can use your input. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:53, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Xx236 ( talk) 13:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
You have the link to Bombing of Wieluń and long lists of edits both of the article and discussion. Xx236 ( talk) 06:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
BTW, Szymon Datner says that the Luftwaffe destroied totally or partially about 150 towns. I don't have the exact quote nor original source (around 1960). Xx236 ( talk) 07:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
The article whitewashes Soviet Union misquoting Cienciala, twice. Xx236 ( talk) 07:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I recently began a centralized discussion for the renaming of population transfer or forced migrations relating to WWII. Users in this area have shown interest in the topic in the past so I wanted to bring the discussion at Talk:World_War_II_evacuation_and_expulsion#Requested_move to your attention. -- Labattblueboy ( talk) 13:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
According to Rudy Rummel [5] Poland (not Communist Poland or Bierut's Slaughterhouse) was a lesser megamurderer. Rummel's texts are quoted e.g. in Expulsion of Germans after World War II. I'm not a fan of Communist Poland but the numbers given by Rummel are absurd. The majority of the victims died during the war, before any Polish administration was created in given area. Xx236 ( talk) 08:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Following recent changes by some editors to the Wikipedia:Naming conventions policy page, a Request For Comment, (RFC) is now being held to debate the removal of the passage specifying that individual WikiProject and other naming conventions are able to make exceptions to the standard policy of using Common Names as the titles of Wikipedia articles.
This WikiProject is being notified since it operates such a specific naming convention. Editors are invited to comment on the proposed change at this location. Xan dar 01:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
The author uses German names of Polish cities, eg. Rawitsch. The author wages a war against me. Xx236 ( talk) 13:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Result_concerning_Xx236
Thank you for those who have supported me. Xx236 ( talk) 07:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
An editor has removed POV tag from a number of articles, winning his war. Xx236 ( talk) 13:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Collectivization in the Soviet Union: "According to official Soviet figures some 24 million peasants disappeared from rural areas". This includes extermination and transfer of at least 200 000 ethnic Poles. 24 million is more than 12 million, isn't it? The only way to "prove" that 12 million is more than 24 million is to say that Collectivization wasn't a population transfer. The same German actions during WWII caused the expulsion of more than 12 million people. Xx236 ( talk) 08:44, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
According to reliable (according to Skaperod) Rummel 11 440 000 died during the collectivization [6]. Plus millions transferred by the NKVD and millions of refugees we obtain certainly more than 12 million, maybe the 24 million mentioned in the Collectivization in the Soviet Union. Xx236 ( talk) 13:43, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
articulation, thus seeing German scholars as those destined to articulate single-handedly the “periphery” (Central/EasternEurope). Xx236 ( talk) 11:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC) I'm not allowed to discuss here some parts of the article. Xx236 ( talk) 11:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Does anybody know why WikiProject Poland most popular pages don't show up here? [10] Loosmark ( talk) 15:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I would highly support taking whatever steps are needed to give us a list of most popular pages. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Interested editors may want to follow and possibly join Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2009-09-15/Polish-Ukrainian WWII disputes. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I was and still is a great pleasure for me to work with you, but due to shocking developments I may be unable to do so for a while. I'd appreciate if somebody not involved in this case could take care of managing this project for a while, this really means only monitoring article news and new article announcements. The annoucements should be checked every few days, some articles need to be prodded/tagged, some need to be stubbed, few need to be nominated for DYK, their creators informed about DYK, few need to be slightly improved for DYKs (their creators can be informed of DYK and asked to do so), few creators need to be invited to join this project. Thank you, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm currently working on a List of windmills in Poland but I'm having difficulty in pinpointing exact locations in some cases. Assistance from WP Poland members would be welcome in polishing the list so that it is ready to release into mainspace. Feel free to edit and improve the list. Mjroots ( talk) 10:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Warsaw Uprising (1794) for Featured article review due to a number of issues that currently exist in the article. -- Eurocopter ( talk) 18:48, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Don't you think that we should expand Chechen_people#Geography_and_diaspora? Those sluggards are creating more and more problems, gaining national attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.31.108.36 ( talk • contribs) 04:41, September 30, 2009
I remember this article used to have a nice pic of the 3 Wilk class subs together with the two Wicher destroyers. (There is still a caption left it seems). I checked the history of the article and it seems that somebody deleted it. I don't understand how this commons work very well, could somebody please check why was the pic deleted? Loosmark ( talk) 22:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Poland to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland/Popular pages.
The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr. Z-man 00:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I have a question how will the page be update with new data, will the stats be for each month? Loosmark ( talk) 15:59, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, could someone who knows Polish and English sufficiently well please translate and add the following to the Liceum ogólnokształcące (in alphabetical order):Technikum Chemicznym, Szkole Zawodowej, Zespół Szkół Mechanicznych, Centrum Kształcenia Ustawicznego. Overall review of the article and positive edits will be appreciated. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 14:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I've been thinking about starting to fight to move back Roman Polanski to Roman Polański. Are here any people interested in helping me? Slijk ( talk) 17:00, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
As you can see from the following links, of those Wikipedias that use the Western alphabet, the number who spell his last name Polański is roughly the same as those who spell it Polanski. But as Piotrus suggested, the real question may be how the man himself spells his name. — Malik Shabazz ( talk · contribs) 22:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Please see this. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:43, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I just discovered we have a Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland/Cleanup listing. It seems like a useful automated list of to do tasks. Keep the link in mind, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Another strange thing I recently discovered, could use some cleanup and an analysis of what kind of Wikipedia scheme it is tied to. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:04, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Please could the author of this statement cite the source.
" among the Jew's lived in Dąbie nad Nerem was the jakobovich family "
thank you
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[12] - Jakubowicz. Xx236 ( talk) 11:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
The quoted text isn't standard English. Xx236 ( talk) 11:51, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I've chosen mały sabotaż as my newest DYK. Any thoughts on the correct name of that article? Please comment at Talk:Minor sabotage. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:33, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I have been working on the Lesser Poland article for some time now. I hope that one day it will become a Good or better Featured Article, there is a lot of work on it, but it is achievable. Help is appreciated. Tymek ( talk) 18:28, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
On the subject of my new stubs and correct names, I've just stubbed pl:Biblia Tysiąclecia to 1000-year Bible. But I cannot find any translation of the title, and considering that the Polish name doesn't use the numeral in the title, I wonder if we shouldn't move it to Thousand Year Bible (or would it be years...?). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:23, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Looking at Category:Streets in Warsaw, I see we have a right mixture of naming formats: X Street, X street, X, Ulica X, and others. How about standardizing? I propose we use the simplest form (just X, unless the street fails to be the primary topic for that name). But anything uniform would be better than the current mixture. Any preferences?-- Kotniski ( talk) 20:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else think Google Maps is a reliable source for this issue? They just go with the Polish names, apparently. For example, Piotrkowska, not Piotrkowska Street or Ul. Piotrskowska or the "fully Anglicized" Piotrków Street as suggested above [13]. This is consistent with what Kotniski originally proposed, use the simplest form (just X, unless the street fails to be the primary topic for that name), and that's what makes most sense to me. It makes the name of the topic, the name of the street, clear and obvious in the title. What the name means in English, or how it's "fully Anglicized", is all subject matter for article content, and not an appropriate use for the article title. Another advantage of this approach is that following Google Maps provides an easy to access reference.
As far as what to do when the name alone conflicts with other uses, I suggest adding simply (street) for disambiguation, unless there are two streets of that name, in which case (Warsaw street) or whatever. The reason to disambiguate this way is to leave the actual name of the topic, the name of the street, clear and obvious in the title. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 19:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
So what's the consensus? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Construction is scheduled to begin in 2000 on the Millennium Plaza Center, located at the corner of Jerozolimskie Avenue and Bitwy Warszawskiej Street, across from the Zachodni Train Station.
"X Street" hybrids jar on me. Neither fish nor fowl. I'd rather use the full original Polish name, or a complete English translation: " ulica Nowy Świat" or "New World Street"—but not "Nowy Świat Street." Nihil novi ( talk) 03:40, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
The more I look into this, the dizzier I get. Please look at the below Google Book samples, for the taste of chaos that is going on with regard to street names in Warsaw (since the mid 19th century, no less). It's a free for all, and the only hope lays in the use of modern day English language maps of Poland I believe (as with any other city: in Germany, France, etc).
All of the five magazines/newspapers that I have been involved with in editorial and/or contributor role and all of the firms which I have worked for as an editor have precisely the same rule: use ul, al. or Al. and then the Polish version of the name. Varsovian ( talk) 17:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Above an example of language rationalizing discrimination of EE editors in Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren. I don't accept being an underdog of this Wikipedia and I don't understand why other editors accept such discriminations. The logic of this Wikipedia reproduces existing stereotypes and prejudices rather thatn helps to oppose them. Polish joke says: "Polish jokes were again strengthened by German immigrant DPs (displaced persons) fleeing war-torn Europe in the late 1940s. These jokes were fuelled by ethnic slurs disseminated by German National Socialist propaganda, which attempted to justify the Nazi murder by presenting Poles as "dreck", dirty and inferior." The same mechanism works till today and I'm writing not about jokes but about some academic articles and texts in this Wikipedia. Nazi propaganda pictures contributed by the Bundesarchiv create the image of the WWII, the victims didn't have cameras to document their history. Unfortunately even some Polish immigrants accept sometimes Western POV and copy existing stereotypes and prejudices from existing "sources" rather than study a subject. If you are an Afro-American woman, you can demand respect and anti-discrimination policy but if you are a (non-Russian) Slav, you should obey, because you are weak. There are theories, eg. Postcolonialism, explaining situation of EE nations, also the editors participating in this Wikipedia.
Unfortunately some EE editors are frustrated by the discriminations, brake the rules and are banned, rather than to oppose the discriminations. Xx236 ( talk) 08:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Strange. I don't like such games. Xx236 ( talk) 14:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
History of Pomerania (1933–1945) contains plenty of errors. I have removed a number of them, but not all. Xx236 ( talk) 11:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello, this person has two articles, please help. - Peter Braun74 ( talk) 20:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Soviet invasion of Poland for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- Labattblueboy ( talk) 15:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
To quote Gustavo from 2007: "Hrabia is not a "Polish title", it is just the translation from "Count"." I tend to agree. Any objections to redirecting? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
See also: komes. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Ummm. One sentence article? I say delete via WP:PROD. Any objections? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm leaving the wikipedia project because I got tired of spending my time here. Some people like for example the obvious sock user:Varsovian (the self proclaimed "new user") can provoke and missrepresent the sources, call people idiots or ugly trolls as much they like and nothing ever happens to them. Anyway I just wanted to say thanks to everybody who worked with me on articles especially and to radeksz and jacurek, it was nice working with you guys. Loosmark ( talk) 18:55, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
WikiProject Poland needs more editors that actually live in Poland, especially Varsovians. When there is trouble with Polish editors (and when was the last time there was no trouble?), almost always expats are involved. Odd, isn't it? Gives homesickness a whole new meaning. -- Matthead Discuß 04:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to everybody for support. Unfortunately it just came to the point that editing wikipedia for me is just stress and I don't get any joy from it. As for Matthead cinical provocation above, it speaks for itself and just shows how much is wikipedia broken. Loosmark ( talk) 07:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
It's a terrible experience for me to read denuciations, this reminds me Gestapo, UB and Stasi. The basic idea of some editors is "deliver you opponent before he/she delivers you". Xx236 ( talk) 08:12, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello all. Is Dynastia Miziołków a notable Polish-language book? Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:23, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
It was a massacre, not a pogrom. Xx236 ( talk) 13:43, 2 November 2009 (UTC) Even an Israeli source says massacre http://www.israelimages.com/see_image_details.php?idi=16993 . Xx236 ( talk) 13:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Rozumice has a page marker in English and the Polish page has a substantial entry. The automatic translation garbles this entry making it almost unintellegible, not worthy of Krzysztof Gładkowski scholarship. Rozumice was once a German 'enclave' village and now is Polish. After WWII its inhabitants dispersed around the world. The last inhabitants who still have its verbal history are nearing the end of their lives. This significant villages history needs to be expanded beyond the limits of Krzysztof research to capture the collected memories before they are lost forever. How do I go about getting this page translated into the English page marker so we can expand the Polish entry?
ps. the Polish article refers to the "Leimes". These unique structure have almost disappeared from the rural scene and are worthy of a page in their own right. AnnaSomerset ( talk) 10:59, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Not necessarily for the Editors to translate, if there are other ways. I tried to follow the 'Translate into English template' page but got lost with the Polish instructions! Rather than re-write the English entry, its seems a better route to translate the Polish page and then do English additions. I was pointed to your Site but am now totally confused which way to turn. AnnaSomerset ( talk) 16:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
That is great, your help is much appreciated. Its seems the English page is slowly expanding (with a heavy Polish bias). I do realise the world is out there is knocking on Polands doors! AnnaSomerset ( talk) 15:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Please comment at Talk:Churches of Kraków whether you agree with the need to rename this article into Catholic Churches of Kraków in order to get rid of the new flag, or perhaps expand the article further with your participation. -- Poeticbent talk 05:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Category:Political repression in Nazi Germany - not only political, some other categories are needed. Xx236 ( talk) 10:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Category:People from Wrocław at CFD, nominator proposed splitting the category to Wrocław and Breslau, see [14]. Please comment and/or vote. - Darwinek ( talk) 11:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
What about Wilno/Vilnius? Xx236 ( talk) 08:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
This art is controversial due to his statement about Kościuszko as Polish and Lithuanian military leader. Art is sourced in very controversial way. There are statements of Polish and Lithuanian scholars and most important source in Britannica found Kościuszko as Polish military [15] is reverted. See discussion of art. help welcomed. Mathiasrex ( talk) 23:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Kościuszko opted for forced Polonization of peasants. Xx236 ( talk) 08:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Looking at this, I wonder if a good solution to this slow level revert warring in categories wouldn't be simply the creation of more Polish-Lithuanian categories. Ex: Category:Polish–Lithuanian engineers, Category:Polish–Lithuanian scientists, and so on. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
We already have Category:People of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:37, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Is a book written by highschool teachers a reliable source? Xx236 ( talk) 08:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Do we have any colleges in Poland? If not, I think that Category:Universities and colleges in Poland should be moved to Category:Universities in Poland; same for Category:Alumni by university or college in Poland and Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in Poland. PS. I see Collegium Civitas (whose lead claims it is a university) and College of Europe with Teacher Training College of Bielsko-Biala (those two have leads claiming they are "educational institutions"). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
WikiProject Prussia claims to cooperate with this project. Does anyone know anything about such cooperation? I know about a series of enforcement requests and bans. Xx236 ( talk) 13:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, we seemed not to reach agreement about how to name articles about streets - let's see how we do with districts of cities. I'm seeing titles like Poznań-Wilda, Poznań-Nowe Miasto, Poznań-Stare Miasto - these are not what these districts are normally called even in Polish, and in English it looks even more odd (particularly when one of the hyphenated parts has a space in it). I would propose that such districts be named simply with their name, using the city name in brackets as a disambiguator if necessary (so either Wilda or Wilda (Poznań), depending on whether it's considered to be the primary topic for "Wilda"). Any comments?-- Kotniski ( talk) 12:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
So the proposal is to use names such as Wilda, Poznań or Nowe Miasto, Poznań for those districts of the city of Poznań ( Poznań-Wilda and Poznań-Nowe Miasto, as the articles are now called). Is that acceptable to everyone? I'll mention it at WT:NCGN as well.-- Kotniski ( talk) 10:57, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
How about we just go with a space instead of any punctuation? Warsaw Nowe Miasto, Warsaw Śródmieście, etc. That would work and is the same standard as is applied to station names in both Poland and England. Varsovian ( talk) 13:39, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Names like Kraków Stare Miasto, Warsaw Nowe Miasto, Poznań Wilda, etc., for the titles of all city districts would by my first choice – per examples – with plenty of internet sources. The use of a comma with a switch would be my second choice. However, there’s a different problem with former villages within the same city districts. I don’t know how best to resolve this, for example " Lubocza (Kraków)" (see below), once a borough of District Kraków Nowa Huta, now a borough of Wzgórza Krzesławickie? Such former villages incorporated into districts have their own rich templates in Polish Wikipedia, i.e. " pl: Szablon:Dzielnica XVII Wzgórza Krzesławickie" containing links to articles about historical entities such as " pl: Lubocza (Kraków)" (per above). I'm afraid English titles such as "Kraków Lubocza" or "Lubocza, Kraków" could be misleading because formally such administrative entities don't exist. I would opt for "Lubocza (Wzgórza Krzesławickie)" maybe (with a comma or with brackets to differentiate, but I'm not so sure), only to confirm their historical location. Any ideas? -- Poeticbent talk 18:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, I see we don't entirely agree on the original question, but I really think the Poznań districts (and any other similar ones - i.e. with the hyphen) ought to be changed to something other than they are now. I'm going to bring the matter up at requested moves, initially with the comma proposal, to maybe get some outside opinion.-- Kotniski ( talk) 16:56, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Now, that the Poznań-Wilda → Wilda, Poznań move has already been performed by sysop Anthony Appleyard, should we be thinking about moving and/or redirecting the Districts of Kraków as well? Feed-back appreciated. -- Poeticbent talk 19:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Many red links. Xx236 ( talk) 07:54, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I've started an article on Leon Dycian. Born in 1911, the English version of the Knesset website gives his place of birth as Poland. The Hebrew version lists it as "ינוב", Poland. Unfortunately this could be transliterated a number of ways - I/Y + A/E + N + O/U + B/V/W (so could be Yenov, Yanub or any other combination!). Given this poor level of info, does anyone have any idea where it may be referring to? Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 13:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)