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International relations are codified through treaties, bilateral and multilateral. At the moment, this project does not consider treaties at all as part of its scope. The Wikiproject International Law includes treaties, but without proper argumentation on the position of treaties within the scope of that project, let alone the relationship between judicial and political aspects commonly found in international treaties.
I suggest this Wikiproject includes treaties in its scope, with a brief description about the way in which articles on treaties should / could be formatted. What are the feelings of other members about this suggestion? Michel Doortmont ( talk) 08:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, implied, but not defined. The Category:Treaties seems more a kind of afterthought than a policy decision. I think a short paragraph on the nature and importance of treaties in IR and IL should be part of the Project's official description, including a guideline for the format of articles on treaties (i.e. title, content of introduction, signing and ratification process, possible sections, reference to literature and official text, etc.). Currently hardly any of the articles titled "Treaty of ..." (or "Convention of ..." etc.) deals with the treaty as such. Most comprise historical texts dealing with the context and circumstances in which the treaty came about, without much attention for the content of the treaty in its own right. Take for example the article on the Treaty of Versailles, which is extremely muddled and confusing in this respect. Besides, most articles on treaties are not more than one paragraph descriptions, deserving rigorous editorial intervention. And last but not least, hardly any article on a treaty affiliates to either Project:International Relations or Project:International Law. Michel Doortmont ( talk) 07:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Just browsing a little bit and finding that there was a Wikipedia:WikiProject Treaties which is now inactive. Would it be an idea to make it a subproject of this very lively Wikipedia:WikiProject International relations and try to revamp it? The project page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Treaties provides a promising start in some respects at least. Michel Doortmont ( talk) 07:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Since I've been asked before I figured I should drop a line here about how to make the Bilateral relations maps
All you need is a texteditor which can handle large textfiles (without adding junk code) e.g. Word Pad and the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2-code of the countries. If you then save Image:Germany Japan Locator.svg to your computer (need to save the actual file not the png thumbnail) and open it in your text editor you should see a two lines (84 lines down) which say
.jp { fill: #e3801c; } /* Japan */ .de { fill: #3c9d3c; } /* Germany */
you then replace then replace "jp" by the isocode of the country you want in orange, and "de" by the iso of the country you want in green. Save the file under the new name and upload using a similar information layout to that on the Image:Germany Japan Locator.svg image page.
Some countries such as the UK and France are slightly tricker since they involve dependent territories (such as Reunion and Isle of Man) with their own ISO codes. For most countries it should be quite straight forward though. If you have any questions just drop a line on my talk page her or on Commons. / Lokal _ Profil 19:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The options are:
For an example using a diplomat that held as least 5 ambassadorial post (plus was a UN Special Envoy), see Talk:Raymond Chrétien. We can't use all three, can we? -- Kevlar ( talk • contribs) 20:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Where do we classify traveling or temporary missions or embassies such as:
Any thoughts? -- Kevlar ( talk • contribs) 21:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
We should categorize lists of embassies by the United Nations geoscheme - that way we can have an accepted practice of categorizing embassies. WhisperToMe ( talk) 03:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Embassy of the Republic of Macedonia in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Albania in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Senegal in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Colombia in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Portugal in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Mali in Washington, D.C.
African Diplomatic Corps is a group of 53 African ambassadors to the U.S.
APK
yada yada 05:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China has been nominated for deletion at WP:AFD. 70.51.9.166 ( talk) 04:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
It has become increasingly clear to me that WP has done a poor job covering the history of diplomatic missions. Partly, I belive, this is due to poor standards and naming converntions, which allow for a confusion between the history of one country's missions to another and the history of a particular building.
Recently I separated Canada House and Macdonald House from the High Commission of Canada in London. I did this for the very good reason that Canada's mission occupies two different buildings in London and each has its own history. Canada House was once home the the Royal College of Surgeons, and Macdonald House is the former American Embassy. Cleary America's mission's history includes Macdonlad House as well.
If you take a look at Category:Embassies and High Commissions in Ottawa, you will see how those articles are heavily weighted in favour of the architecture and histories of the buildings in question and not the missions. These articles should be renamed and re-purposed to make it clear they are about the buildings only. By contrast if you think about Category:Embassies in Berlin most of those embassies in very new. For most of the last 50 years all most of the embassies in Germany were in Bonn. A history of the US or UK mission to Germany should take that into account and not focus on the current building in Berlin. An article about a building, like Nordic Embassies Berlin, serves a differnet purpose.
My proposal is to change our naming converntion to Mission of Country X to County Y'. (e.g. Embassy of the United States to France, High Commision of Australia to South Africa. etc.), and focus them more narrowly on diplomatic history. If a building is notable enough it can have a seperate article for architectural history under a different title (e.g. Australia House, Stadacona Hall, etc.) -- Kevlar ( talk • contribs) 17:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Diplomatic missions by country ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Lists of diplomatic missions by country ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Россавиа Диалог 14:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Diplomatic missions by host country ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Lists of diplomatic missions by host country ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Россавиа Диалог 14:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Bilateral relations ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for merging into Category:??? ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Россавиа Диалог 16:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
The continents list on almost all pages in the
Category:Diplomatic missions by host country follows this order
Europe
North America
South America
Middle East
Africa
Asia
Oceania
I don't know the rationale behind this, but it seems like it alphabetizing the list would be the right way to deal with it. Country names under the continents are already alphabetized, and I did change one page, Diplomatic missions of Kenya, but once I realised all the pages were like that, I thought it better to build consensus. 72.211.139.189 ( talk) 01:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I would be happy to go along with JayHenry's suggestion as well, and put the region the country belongs to first, it makes sense that relations with neighbors are more important and it not change the amount of work involved. Implementing the United Nations Geoscheme at the same time and eliminating the Middle East section is the most efficient way to get both changes in. In that case my time estimate above would be way too low, and I am not ready to change all 180 pages alone if both chages are to be made. 72.211.139.189 ( talk) 19:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Moved from Category talk:Diplomatic missions by country
We could, if there is enough interest, split The Americas into Northern America and Latin America and the Caribbean. Kransky ( talk) 10:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
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Now there is a Iraqi-Israeli relations, whilst there are no diplomatic links between the two states, and there never were. Wouldn't the existence of such an article (at least in categorized, names, included in templates, etc. in the same schemes as articles on actual bilateral state-to-state relations), be a case of crystalballing? -- Soman ( talk) 10:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Many consulates are in office buildings, and so there are two ways of photographing them:
I prefer the latter as it precisely shows the consulate itself, as opposed to the less precise building (which has many tenants)
I was told that the average user could see it as nothing more than a waiting room or something not special; but there is no better way to depict the office building consulate, as it is one of many tenants and the way the consulate entrance appears is how it is. I believe that this is the best manner to depict the office suite consulates.
The issue was raised because I photographed various consulates in Houston, and all except for three (Mexico, P. R. China, Pakistan) are office building consulates. WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:10, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Things like Image:SpanishConsulateHouston.JPG are good buyt plaques on the wall less so. Geni 23:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Maybe it will help if specific images are evaluated as well:
What is the criteria for whether an office building image should be included? What if the image is the best possible depiction, especially when considering the nature of consulates in offices and security concerns? WhisperToMe ( talk) 01:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
In providing my input in this discussion, I will refer editors to Diplomatic missions in Russia, as this is something that is making me question what photos to include in what I will call 1st level-importance missions in relation to the article/list. The 1st-level missions are of course those in Moscow - most of the missions in Moscow are housed in their own chancery buildings - as is the norm in major diplomatic cities; Washington, Ottawa, London, Paris, Rome, Geneva, Vienna, Canberra, etc - with a few exceptions, such as Brunei which occupies 2 offices in the SAS Radisson Hotel in Moscow, and as such I won't be asking for my Moscow photographers to seek that one out for me, as in terms of 'chancery', it is simply just an office, much like an office of a corporation, etc. The majority of the rest of the missions are also accommodated in historic, notable buildings. The 2nd-level missions are the C-Gs located in Saint Petersburg - whilst not a major diplomatic city, it is of wider regional importance, and all of these C-Gs are being photographed and will be included in the article due them all occupying their own buildings in its entireity. The 3rd-level missions are those which are located in the rest of Russia - I won't be including, for example, the consulates in Novosibirsk, as they are all located in multi-purpose buildings (much like the Houston consulates), nor will I be including other consulates such as the Japanese consulate in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, as again, it is located in an office building. The same goes for Estonia and Latvia in Pskov, as they are both located in the same office building, even though they are quite important posts for those 2 countries. An exception, as can be seen already is the inclusion of the Mongolian consulate in Ulan-Ude, as it does occupy the entire building. In fact, the entire 'rest of Russia' table will in the near future be de-tabulised and text will be included explaining why these countries have consulates in these 3rd-level cities, and a photo or two will be provided for them, and a formatted, non-tabulated list will be included. Houston, in terms of the overall scheme of things, is on the same level as these 3rd-level Russian cities, and a photo of their offices in multi-purpose office buildings won't provide anything of use to the article, if you compare it to the rest of article/list. I'm not saying don't provide photos of Houston consulates, but simply to limit photos to those consulates which occupy the entire building. -- Россавиа Диалог 15:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hi! I understand that the British Consulate in Chicago resides in the Wrigley building.
For people in Chicago, does anyone wish to photograph the entrance to the consulate (as in the entrance on the 13th floor) ? - If required, see if you can seek permission to take the photograph. See: http://www.britainusa.com/chicago/ WhisperToMe ( talk) 03:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Today I walked past the Mongolian Embassy in Tokyo using Google Street View. I could have taken a "photograph" of the mission (screen shoot the view, dump into a jpg and uploaded), but the Wiki Copyright FAQ thinks this would be a no-no. Does anybody think it is worth challenging this view? Kransky ( talk) 11:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Since I feel Consulate-General of Russia in Houston is a more complete article than Consulate General of Canada in Buffalo, why not use the former for the naming convention example? WhisperToMe ( talk) 05:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Please see here I have posted a CfD about these bilateral relations categories and you might want to take a look at it there. If a consensus is reached there based on my proposal, I will move articles accordingly and I suggest that members of this WikiProject amend their naming styles according; presently, these articles have wildly divergent names and almost all of them violate Wikipedia-wide style guidelines. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 00:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
As said earlier, take caution when photographing diplomatic missions
WhisperToMe ( talk) 19:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
NOTE TO EDITORS -- This discussion was originally at Talk:Diplomatic_missions_of_Russia#Re-introduction_of_formatted.2C_sortable_list, however, in order to garner a wider range of opinions, the discussion is being moved here for input from all WP editors -- there is no need to agree or disagree with each numbered point which I initially raised, but looking for opinions on how to improve these articles for the benefit of the entire WP project.
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Comment.
User:Karanacs started Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Consulate-General of Indonesia in Houston AFD debate. WhisperToMe ( talk) 16:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I have added Pakistan occupied Kashmir to this WikiProject. There is currently a heated discussion to delete the article. __ meco ( talk) 14:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
The ever-present effects on sports and politics didn't have an article. I've just created Sports diplomacy which others may find a good read and to add more to. Lihaas ( talk) 17:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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* 1 Overview o 1.1 Objectives o 1.2 Relations o 1.3 Methods + 1.3.1 Non-aggressive + 1.3.2 Aggressive * 2 Foreign interventionism o 2.1 Ideologies o 2.2 Policies in practice + 2.2.1 Diplomacy + 2.2.2 Multilateral and international intervention + 2.2.3 Unilateral intervention o 2.3 Controversies + 2.3.1 Human rights + 2.3.2 Occupation + 2.3.3 Peacekeeping + 2.3.4 Globalization + 2.3.5 Media o 2.4 History + 2.4.1 1990 - 2000 + 2.4.2 2000 - present * 3 See also
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http://www.netconsul.org/consularoffices/ says that the Russian Consulate is at the 2323 Westin Building at 2001 6th Avenue, not the Samuel Hyde House.
Anyway, what is at the Samuel Hyde House, then? Is it the residence of the consul general? WhisperToMe ( talk) 15:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I suspect this has already been long-debated, but, having passed by a number of "Foreign relations of" templates recently, I was struck by the varied and sometimes less-than-straightforward names for articles about relations between two countries -- for instance, sometimes "Pakistan-", sometimes "-Pakistani"; sometimes "Sino-", sometimes "-Chinese", sometimes "-China"; sometimes "U.S.-", sometimes "United States-", sometimes "-U.S.", sometimes; sometimes with hyphen, sometimes with ndash; sometimes... [fade out].
Is it too simplistic to suggest a "Relations between A and B" format, where A and B are the two countries' common names (not prefixes or suffixes) and in alphabetical order?
e.g.
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Please contribute your views here Category talk:Lists of diplomatic missions by sending country Kransky ( talk) 03:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
the following article need a map for the lead Indo-Palestinian relations and Indo-Irish relations. WOuld be great to get those up. Lihaas ( talk) 22:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
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International relations are codified through treaties, bilateral and multilateral. At the moment, this project does not consider treaties at all as part of its scope. The Wikiproject International Law includes treaties, but without proper argumentation on the position of treaties within the scope of that project, let alone the relationship between judicial and political aspects commonly found in international treaties.
I suggest this Wikiproject includes treaties in its scope, with a brief description about the way in which articles on treaties should / could be formatted. What are the feelings of other members about this suggestion? Michel Doortmont ( talk) 08:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, implied, but not defined. The Category:Treaties seems more a kind of afterthought than a policy decision. I think a short paragraph on the nature and importance of treaties in IR and IL should be part of the Project's official description, including a guideline for the format of articles on treaties (i.e. title, content of introduction, signing and ratification process, possible sections, reference to literature and official text, etc.). Currently hardly any of the articles titled "Treaty of ..." (or "Convention of ..." etc.) deals with the treaty as such. Most comprise historical texts dealing with the context and circumstances in which the treaty came about, without much attention for the content of the treaty in its own right. Take for example the article on the Treaty of Versailles, which is extremely muddled and confusing in this respect. Besides, most articles on treaties are not more than one paragraph descriptions, deserving rigorous editorial intervention. And last but not least, hardly any article on a treaty affiliates to either Project:International Relations or Project:International Law. Michel Doortmont ( talk) 07:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Just browsing a little bit and finding that there was a Wikipedia:WikiProject Treaties which is now inactive. Would it be an idea to make it a subproject of this very lively Wikipedia:WikiProject International relations and try to revamp it? The project page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Treaties provides a promising start in some respects at least. Michel Doortmont ( talk) 07:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Since I've been asked before I figured I should drop a line here about how to make the Bilateral relations maps
All you need is a texteditor which can handle large textfiles (without adding junk code) e.g. Word Pad and the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2-code of the countries. If you then save Image:Germany Japan Locator.svg to your computer (need to save the actual file not the png thumbnail) and open it in your text editor you should see a two lines (84 lines down) which say
.jp { fill: #e3801c; } /* Japan */ .de { fill: #3c9d3c; } /* Germany */
you then replace then replace "jp" by the isocode of the country you want in orange, and "de" by the iso of the country you want in green. Save the file under the new name and upload using a similar information layout to that on the Image:Germany Japan Locator.svg image page.
Some countries such as the UK and France are slightly tricker since they involve dependent territories (such as Reunion and Isle of Man) with their own ISO codes. For most countries it should be quite straight forward though. If you have any questions just drop a line on my talk page her or on Commons. / Lokal _ Profil 19:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The options are:
For an example using a diplomat that held as least 5 ambassadorial post (plus was a UN Special Envoy), see Talk:Raymond Chrétien. We can't use all three, can we? -- Kevlar ( talk • contribs) 20:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Where do we classify traveling or temporary missions or embassies such as:
Any thoughts? -- Kevlar ( talk • contribs) 21:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
We should categorize lists of embassies by the United Nations geoscheme - that way we can have an accepted practice of categorizing embassies. WhisperToMe ( talk) 03:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Embassy of the Republic of Macedonia in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Albania in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Senegal in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Colombia in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Portugal in Washington, D.C., Embassy of Mali in Washington, D.C.
African Diplomatic Corps is a group of 53 African ambassadors to the U.S.
APK
yada yada 05:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China has been nominated for deletion at WP:AFD. 70.51.9.166 ( talk) 04:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
It has become increasingly clear to me that WP has done a poor job covering the history of diplomatic missions. Partly, I belive, this is due to poor standards and naming converntions, which allow for a confusion between the history of one country's missions to another and the history of a particular building.
Recently I separated Canada House and Macdonald House from the High Commission of Canada in London. I did this for the very good reason that Canada's mission occupies two different buildings in London and each has its own history. Canada House was once home the the Royal College of Surgeons, and Macdonald House is the former American Embassy. Cleary America's mission's history includes Macdonlad House as well.
If you take a look at Category:Embassies and High Commissions in Ottawa, you will see how those articles are heavily weighted in favour of the architecture and histories of the buildings in question and not the missions. These articles should be renamed and re-purposed to make it clear they are about the buildings only. By contrast if you think about Category:Embassies in Berlin most of those embassies in very new. For most of the last 50 years all most of the embassies in Germany were in Bonn. A history of the US or UK mission to Germany should take that into account and not focus on the current building in Berlin. An article about a building, like Nordic Embassies Berlin, serves a differnet purpose.
My proposal is to change our naming converntion to Mission of Country X to County Y'. (e.g. Embassy of the United States to France, High Commision of Australia to South Africa. etc.), and focus them more narrowly on diplomatic history. If a building is notable enough it can have a seperate article for architectural history under a different title (e.g. Australia House, Stadacona Hall, etc.) -- Kevlar ( talk • contribs) 17:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Diplomatic missions by country ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Lists of diplomatic missions by country ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Россавиа Диалог 14:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Diplomatic missions by host country ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Lists of diplomatic missions by host country ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Россавиа Диалог 14:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Bilateral relations ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for merging into Category:??? ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Россавиа Диалог 16:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
The continents list on almost all pages in the
Category:Diplomatic missions by host country follows this order
Europe
North America
South America
Middle East
Africa
Asia
Oceania
I don't know the rationale behind this, but it seems like it alphabetizing the list would be the right way to deal with it. Country names under the continents are already alphabetized, and I did change one page, Diplomatic missions of Kenya, but once I realised all the pages were like that, I thought it better to build consensus. 72.211.139.189 ( talk) 01:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I would be happy to go along with JayHenry's suggestion as well, and put the region the country belongs to first, it makes sense that relations with neighbors are more important and it not change the amount of work involved. Implementing the United Nations Geoscheme at the same time and eliminating the Middle East section is the most efficient way to get both changes in. In that case my time estimate above would be way too low, and I am not ready to change all 180 pages alone if both chages are to be made. 72.211.139.189 ( talk) 19:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Moved from Category talk:Diplomatic missions by country
We could, if there is enough interest, split The Americas into Northern America and Latin America and the Caribbean. Kransky ( talk) 10:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
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Now there is a Iraqi-Israeli relations, whilst there are no diplomatic links between the two states, and there never were. Wouldn't the existence of such an article (at least in categorized, names, included in templates, etc. in the same schemes as articles on actual bilateral state-to-state relations), be a case of crystalballing? -- Soman ( talk) 10:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Many consulates are in office buildings, and so there are two ways of photographing them:
I prefer the latter as it precisely shows the consulate itself, as opposed to the less precise building (which has many tenants)
I was told that the average user could see it as nothing more than a waiting room or something not special; but there is no better way to depict the office building consulate, as it is one of many tenants and the way the consulate entrance appears is how it is. I believe that this is the best manner to depict the office suite consulates.
The issue was raised because I photographed various consulates in Houston, and all except for three (Mexico, P. R. China, Pakistan) are office building consulates. WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:10, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Things like Image:SpanishConsulateHouston.JPG are good buyt plaques on the wall less so. Geni 23:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Maybe it will help if specific images are evaluated as well:
What is the criteria for whether an office building image should be included? What if the image is the best possible depiction, especially when considering the nature of consulates in offices and security concerns? WhisperToMe ( talk) 01:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
In providing my input in this discussion, I will refer editors to Diplomatic missions in Russia, as this is something that is making me question what photos to include in what I will call 1st level-importance missions in relation to the article/list. The 1st-level missions are of course those in Moscow - most of the missions in Moscow are housed in their own chancery buildings - as is the norm in major diplomatic cities; Washington, Ottawa, London, Paris, Rome, Geneva, Vienna, Canberra, etc - with a few exceptions, such as Brunei which occupies 2 offices in the SAS Radisson Hotel in Moscow, and as such I won't be asking for my Moscow photographers to seek that one out for me, as in terms of 'chancery', it is simply just an office, much like an office of a corporation, etc. The majority of the rest of the missions are also accommodated in historic, notable buildings. The 2nd-level missions are the C-Gs located in Saint Petersburg - whilst not a major diplomatic city, it is of wider regional importance, and all of these C-Gs are being photographed and will be included in the article due them all occupying their own buildings in its entireity. The 3rd-level missions are those which are located in the rest of Russia - I won't be including, for example, the consulates in Novosibirsk, as they are all located in multi-purpose buildings (much like the Houston consulates), nor will I be including other consulates such as the Japanese consulate in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, as again, it is located in an office building. The same goes for Estonia and Latvia in Pskov, as they are both located in the same office building, even though they are quite important posts for those 2 countries. An exception, as can be seen already is the inclusion of the Mongolian consulate in Ulan-Ude, as it does occupy the entire building. In fact, the entire 'rest of Russia' table will in the near future be de-tabulised and text will be included explaining why these countries have consulates in these 3rd-level cities, and a photo or two will be provided for them, and a formatted, non-tabulated list will be included. Houston, in terms of the overall scheme of things, is on the same level as these 3rd-level Russian cities, and a photo of their offices in multi-purpose office buildings won't provide anything of use to the article, if you compare it to the rest of article/list. I'm not saying don't provide photos of Houston consulates, but simply to limit photos to those consulates which occupy the entire building. -- Россавиа Диалог 15:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hi! I understand that the British Consulate in Chicago resides in the Wrigley building.
For people in Chicago, does anyone wish to photograph the entrance to the consulate (as in the entrance on the 13th floor) ? - If required, see if you can seek permission to take the photograph. See: http://www.britainusa.com/chicago/ WhisperToMe ( talk) 03:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Today I walked past the Mongolian Embassy in Tokyo using Google Street View. I could have taken a "photograph" of the mission (screen shoot the view, dump into a jpg and uploaded), but the Wiki Copyright FAQ thinks this would be a no-no. Does anybody think it is worth challenging this view? Kransky ( talk) 11:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Since I feel Consulate-General of Russia in Houston is a more complete article than Consulate General of Canada in Buffalo, why not use the former for the naming convention example? WhisperToMe ( talk) 05:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
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As said earlier, take caution when photographing diplomatic missions
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NOTE TO EDITORS -- This discussion was originally at Talk:Diplomatic_missions_of_Russia#Re-introduction_of_formatted.2C_sortable_list, however, in order to garner a wider range of opinions, the discussion is being moved here for input from all WP editors -- there is no need to agree or disagree with each numbered point which I initially raised, but looking for opinions on how to improve these articles for the benefit of the entire WP project.
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Comment.
User:Karanacs started Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Consulate-General of Indonesia in Houston AFD debate. WhisperToMe ( talk) 16:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I have added Pakistan occupied Kashmir to this WikiProject. There is currently a heated discussion to delete the article. __ meco ( talk) 14:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
The ever-present effects on sports and politics didn't have an article. I've just created Sports diplomacy which others may find a good read and to add more to. Lihaas ( talk) 17:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
I am fleshing out the article on foreign interventionism (redirects to interventionism (politics)). I am already more than half through getting a first complete run of the following with comprehensive linking to other articles on Wikipedia:
* 1 Overview o 1.1 Objectives o 1.2 Relations o 1.3 Methods + 1.3.1 Non-aggressive + 1.3.2 Aggressive * 2 Foreign interventionism o 2.1 Ideologies o 2.2 Policies in practice + 2.2.1 Diplomacy + 2.2.2 Multilateral and international intervention + 2.2.3 Unilateral intervention o 2.3 Controversies + 2.3.1 Human rights + 2.3.2 Occupation + 2.3.3 Peacekeeping + 2.3.4 Globalization + 2.3.5 Media o 2.4 History + 2.4.1 1990 - 2000 + 2.4.2 2000 - present * 3 See also
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http://www.netconsul.org/consularoffices/ says that the Russian Consulate is at the 2323 Westin Building at 2001 6th Avenue, not the Samuel Hyde House.
Anyway, what is at the Samuel Hyde House, then? Is it the residence of the consul general? WhisperToMe ( talk) 15:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I suspect this has already been long-debated, but, having passed by a number of "Foreign relations of" templates recently, I was struck by the varied and sometimes less-than-straightforward names for articles about relations between two countries -- for instance, sometimes "Pakistan-", sometimes "-Pakistani"; sometimes "Sino-", sometimes "-Chinese", sometimes "-China"; sometimes "U.S.-", sometimes "United States-", sometimes "-U.S.", sometimes; sometimes with hyphen, sometimes with ndash; sometimes... [fade out].
Is it too simplistic to suggest a "Relations between A and B" format, where A and B are the two countries' common names (not prefixes or suffixes) and in alphabetical order?
e.g.
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I just added this projects header to Talk:G20 major economies, where there's a discussion going on about what the article's name should be. Thanks. 68.167.252.47 ( talk) 04:27, 15 November 2008 (UTC).
Please contribute your views here Category talk:Lists of diplomatic missions by sending country Kransky ( talk) 03:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
the following article need a map for the lead Indo-Palestinian relations and Indo-Irish relations. WOuld be great to get those up. Lihaas ( talk) 22:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi guys, recently I've been constructing a table/list of signatories for the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons article. I've completed the table (I've made it sortable too!) and all that's needed now is to input the data. So far I've added about 34 countries out of 108, if anyone wants to help me I've created a simple tutorial at the top of the table's sandbox here. Ryan4314 ( talk) 13:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I recently created the Bahrain–Turkey relations and Turkey-Kuwait relations page. Hopefully, someone can help get those pages up to C-class. Before I start working on them some more, I figure me and other users should work and improve some of the templates. For example, I thinking how for countries, we should create ones much like we have for Turkey, and the ones like Bahrain, we should bring up to like Turkey. Anyone want to help. I'm currently working on the Bahrain template.
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