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I just saw this which changed a 2013 film's category from Category:Fox Searchlight Pictures films (now deleted) to Category:Searchlight Pictures films. It looks like XSMan2016 did this tagging and Fayenatic london closed it as completed. "Searchlight Pictures" was not a thing back in 2013. It seems like this re-categorizing should be undone. Did we already have a similar discussion about this related to Disney and Fox? Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 16:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
The discussion is at Talk:Il coltello di ghiaccio#Requested move 2 April 2020. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 10:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion taking place regarding the format for listing multiple films of the same title in alphabetical lists of films. Please consider heading on over and giving your thoughts and opinions on the matter if you feel inclined to do so. Thank you! — Matthew - ( talk) 22:35, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:Directorial debut films is kinda large: currently about 6,330 articles. That's much too big for useful navigation.
It seems to me that it would be much more use if diffused by year (where available), or by decade if the year is unavailable. This task can be done fairly easily using WP:AWB: I recently used it to diffuse Category:Debut novels into Category:Debut novels by year, Category:Debut novels by decade and Category:Debut novels by century.
I would like to do the same for the directorial debut films, if there is agreement here to do so. In view of the size of the category, I propose to run it as a bot job, using User:BHGbot. If there is agreement here, I will open a request at WP:BRFA seeking permission to use the bot for this.
Any thoughts? (Please ping me in replies). -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 17:44, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Update: this discussion has been open for only 24 hours, and should probably run for a few days before consensus is weighed. But in view of the positive comments so far, I have opened a bot approval request (BRFA) at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BHGbot 5 so that WP:BAG members can start technical evaluation of the task.
Please note that I am not trying to jump the gun here: I have noted there that the discussion here is still young. BAG is rightly cautious, so it won't authorise the bot task unless consensus is clear. But opening the BRFA now allows then to start assessing the proposed methodology. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 18:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Update: Bot task WP:BHGbot 5 has been approved [1] (thanks, @ Primefac) and the bot has begun work on the task: see Special:Contributions/BHGbot.
I will start creating the categories soon, after a short break to feed my gigolos.
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BrownHairedGirl
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contribs) 21:46, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Update2 the bot has now processed about 2,200 articles (a third of the set), but I noticed that it is skipping about 10% of them.
I found the problem: the bot assumes that all the articles in a "YYYY films" category are there because of direct category markup, e.g. [[:Category:1916 films]]
. That assumption turns out to be false in about 10% of cases, which the bot is skipping. I found that the reason down is the use of {{
Film date}}, and have created some tracking categories to see what use cases I needed to consider doing a second run with bot on these exceptions: see
Template:Film_date#Tracking.
From what I have learnt so far, it seems that a simple modification to the bot will allow it to process about 85% of the remainder. I will then figure out what to do with the rest, but I think the bot should be able to do nearly all of them ... although it may take a few days longer than I expected. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:46, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Update3: Job done. The bot has finished its run, having done 5499 edits and skipped 683 pages.
I had prepared the methodology for it do a second pass to process most of the remainder, but to my surprise a peek at Category:Directorial debut films shows that it's all done; the remainder all seem to be upcoming films. Some further burrowing reveals that this was all done manually by Sc2353 ( talk · contribs), in over 500 edits. It's great to see it all done, and apparently done well, but I am sad to see a human editor spending a day of their life doing a task which a bot was ready to do unattended after about 10 minutes setup time.
Anyway, I think I'm done here. Thanks to To editors Lugnuts, Erik and Favre1fan93 for your support and feedback and to @ Primefac and TheSandDoctor for doing due diligence on the bot. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion about Extra Human Being. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:35, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
I've posted an RFC at Talk:Prix Iris about the way the awards ceremonies are numbered, because the way we're numbering them on the English Wikipedia is different from the way they're being numbered both on the French Wikipedia and by Québec Cinéma itself — those two are consistent with each other, and we're the ones making up our own road. I know not everybody here is particularly knowledgeable about Canadian or Quebec film, but I still wanted to announce the RFC here in case anybody cares to offer input. Bearcat ( talk) 17:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I work for Executive Writing, and as part of my consultancy, I work with United Talent Agency. I am hoping someone will be willing to take a look at the N.S. Bienstock page to help determine if it should be merged to direct readers to the United Talent Agency page. United Talent Agency’s acquisition of N.S. Bienstock was widely reported in the press when it occurred in early 2014. This acquisition is already referenced and sourced on the United Talent Agency page. You can see coverage of the initial acquisition here. THE N.S. Bienstock brand has since retired and is known now as UTA News & Broadcasting. This, too, is noted on the UTA page. Additionally, the N.S. Bienstock brand retirement can be documented by the fact that the entity no longer has an independent website. I believe the N.S. Bienstock page should be merged and simply refer readers to the United Talent Agency page, which already reflects the retirement of the NSB/shift to UTA News & Broadcast, but am looking for guidance from editors. I believe I've disclosed my conflict of interest appropriately. Thank you in advance for your help. EWChristine ( talk) 15:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Would interested editors please comment here Talk:Mad Monster Party?#Title of article. I'm actually having a hard time finding any sources that use the question mark but wanted to get other opinions before making any page move. Thanks. MarnetteD| Talk 19:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
There's currently a dispute at God's Not Dead (film) regarding WP:NPOV and WP:ADVOCACY. The discussion is at Talk:God's Not Dead (film)#References in paragraph 2, and the diff in dispute is here. JOE BRO 64 00:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
There's an ongoing discussion regarding a potential move for Colleen Villard. The discussion can be found at Talk:Colleen Villard#Requested move 11 April 2020. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Editors may be interested in discussing my proposed merger at the Deadpool talk page. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 03:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:17, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Morgellons is a controversial medical topic, per its relationship with delusional parasitosis. Could experienced film editors please review the considerable discussion on Morgellons talk, to provide some guidance on the film aspects of the documentary, wrt External links? Talk:Morgellons#Documentary probably worth a mention. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 19:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Talk:Blue_Is_the_Warmest_Colour#In_most_circumstances_ILL_Links_should_be_present_when_possible @ Erik: @ Sebastian James: There's an inquiry on the talk page on whether foreign language wiki articles on actors should be linked. There are several minor actors listed on the Blue_Is_the_Warmest_Colour article that have French Wikipedia articles but not English ones.
One possible concern raised is of the article on the foreign language Wiki being relatively undeveloped or lacking sourcing (this issue I believe affects the Japanese Wikipedia). I'm also linking this from the BLP noticeboard just in case as this does concern living people. One counterargument is that there are also ENwiki articles on actors/actresses that are relatively undeveloped and that one wouldn't remove blue links from that. WhisperToMe ( talk) 21:29, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
What do editors here think should be done at Blue Is the Warmest Colour specifically? WhisperToMe linked to the discussion at the beginning. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 12:36, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:52, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
I've been seeing some category-related edits that are changing decade-specific genre categories to year-specific genre categories, like this. Is there consensus for this more specific change, especially on a widespread scale? Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 18:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
A discussion regarding the above question is active at Talk:One Two Three#Requested move 16 April 2020. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:49, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm in the process of creating an article about the film "A Day in Black and White" ( draft sandbox), but there seems to be some discrepancy regarding the film's premiere date. IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes both indicate the premiere date as being August 31st, 2001, stating it premiered at the Africa in the Picture Film Festival. However, I have multiple RS ( here and here) indicating it was shown at SXSW in March 1999, and the film's trailer indicates it was "written and directed for HBO" and premiered on that network in February 2001. I would assume the SXSW showing would constitute the premiere date for Infoxbox purposes, but I would like a second opinion. Thanks in advance. - Brother Bulldog ( talk) 18:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
I haven't seen this film in awhile, in order to meet the standard for FILMPLOT, 140 words must be cut out of it. I am not wanting to chop out anything that's important to the film so if any editors who've seen it recently or remember the plot off the top of their head could do the trim, it would be appreciated. Rusted AutoParts 19:40, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi guys, I've been running related article Being Impossible through the GA process, but we have hit an issue that will take some help to resolve: I made the article before the release and was hoping that I would be able to add a full plot summary (if nobody beat me to it) when the film came out last year. For a variety of reasons, the film's release in different countries got pushed back to this year, so it's not been very lucky. HBO have got the film available on VOD - in the US. Neither the GA reviewer nor myself are both in the US and have a HBO subscription, so if anybody here is in the US with HBO and would be willing to watch an interesting film to give a plot summary, we would be very grateful! Kingsif ( talk) 23:35, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
The discussion about File:Envy Adams performance Scott Pilgrim vs. the World image.png is recently relisted into Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 April 22, where I invite you to discuss. -- George Ho ( talk) 03:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
I created virtual cinema today and wanted to share in case editors working on independent films' articles wanted to link to something about this particular strategy going on nowadays. Others are welcome to share similar articles. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 15:20, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
If interested, please share your thoughts on the use of galleries of cast images in film articles at Talk:Dilim#RfC: Cast images. BOVINEBOY 2008 00:33, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
In case anyone is interested, there is a rfc at Talk Dark Phoenix whether the phrase box office bomb should be used regarding the film. ToeFungii ( talk) 07:43, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
A requested moved is being discussed at Talk:Braindead (film)#Requested move 8 April 2020 which may be of interest to participants of this WikiProject. -- Netoholic @ 20:45, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi all. I'm looking at Box Office Mojo for Groundhog Day here and I'm a bit confused. it says it was in release for almost an entire year, but it only has records for 19 weeks. Any film being in release for a year is pretty rare as far as I am aware, even back then, but the total box office figure is the same as the 19 week figure. Can anyone explain this to me? And as an aside, has anyone ever come across any info of international numbers for the film? Thanks. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 22:15, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Some extra voices and views would be appreciated at Talk:Godzilla (2014 film)#Remove hatnote. BOVINEBOY 2008 10:29, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, can anyone suggest a reliable website/portal to systematically support information about the release date of home media such as Blu-ray and DVD? And in terms of accepted practices, is it OK to use commercial websites? Tanonero (msg) 09:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
(After an unfruitful quick search on the indicated websites) What I needed was sources supporting Blackfish's home release dates in UK and USA. -- Tanonero (msg) 10:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Films and TV shows often use the official/legal name for copyright/distribution credits for legal reason. However, some of those names may not be easily recognizable by the reader. For example, ABC Studios legal name is "Touchstone Television Productions, LLC" and Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment (WDSHE) is "Buena Vista Home Entertainment, Inc." (BVHE). Disney film DVDs and blu-ray usually say "Distributed by Buena Vista Home Entertainment, Inc." and we usually use the recognizable WP:COMMONNAME (WDSHE) as instead of the obscure unrecognizable legal name because the goal is to help the readers understand the content as opposed to wp:wikilawyering it up with legal jargon. Is it WP:OR to paraphrase and use the recognizable, non-controversial common name as opposed to word-for-word company name in the source?
Likewise, a reliable sources can mention cast or companies by a nickname or legal name as opposed to the precise and recognizable common name. For example, if a casting news article says "The Rock" instead of "Dwayne Johnson," is it original research to call him "Dwayne Johnson" even though it's obvious in the article? — Starforce13 20:40, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
There is a discussion about referencing Daily Mail film reviews on the talk page for RoboCop (2014 film). The discussion can be seen here. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 12:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
I used cite dvd, and entered the dvd barcode number in the ISBN field, however it returns an error, was wondering if anyone else uses cite dvd and if they enter the barcode number in the cite. Govvy ( talk) 08:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
A discussion regarding this film's title form is currently active at Talk:Y Tu Mamá También#Requested move 3 May 2020. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:32, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Is List of Academy Award shortlists something encyclopedic. I am not in the industry, but it seems sort of like WP:NOT.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:26, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at this article, in particular some of the things being discussed at Talk:The Call of the Wild: Dog of the Yukon? -- Marchjuly ( talk) 12:04, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
I've posted a request for comments at Talk:Canadian Screen Award for Best Original Screenplay, regarding whether a separate article is warranted or not. The explanation is fairly long because there was a lot of context to explain for why it was merged with another category instead of already having its own article, so I'm not going to repeat it all here, but the talk page offers more detail on why this is in question. Accordingly, I'd like to solicit some imput from other editors. Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 16:20, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Since this nomination is not generating enough interest on FAC; it was suggested that I post here to invite interested editors to review the article and leave constructive comments. Thanks to those willing to take part. Shahid • Talk2me 00:54, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
An RfC is open regarding the length of the cast list on It's a Wonderful Life; the details can be found here. - SchroCat ( talk) 15:12, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Would somebody be able to take a peek at Beta Test (film)? There's maybe one or two references that aren't citing someone's personal Facebook. DÅRTHBØTTØ ( T• C) 21:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I see that SibTower1987 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is busy adding awards to the accolades sections of various film articles - Goodfellas is one example. I thought that there was a consensus formed a few years ago that if the awards did not have a Wikipedia article that they weren't to be included. If I am wrong in this then S can proceed although I would add that I'm not seeing any references to WP:VERIFY the awards at the moment. MarnetteD| Talk 05:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
I just completed some technical cleanup of this article. It was marked as a Start-class, I believe it to be B-class and marked it so. As this project had a banner on it I thought you might want to be aware. —¿philoserf? ( talk) 04:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Is anyone familiar with this site? It has an actual UK box office for Groundhog Day (film) but I can't seem to see much info about the site itself. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 14:40, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello, if you have not checked out the Wikipedia Library yet, I recommend you do so. There are some sources (like Newspapers.com) that can help us look up coverage related to this WikiProject. We can also suggest sources, and I have suggested IMDbPro as a possibility. While we do not treat IMDb as a reliable source in Wikipedia articles, aspects of it such as getting news-related alerts can help us. You can find the IMDbPro suggestion here and upvote it. Thanks, Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 19:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi! Not tagged as within project's scope, but I think it probably is. Would folks more familiar with film mind a look at Community film? It reads like it was written by an academic (it was), but I think based on Cinema Beyond the City there's an element of notability, but I'm not sure where to start. Thanks! StarM 19:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
There has in fact been a recent collection of essays (avilable in hardback, paperback and ebook) devoted entirely to this important topic: "Community Filmmaking: Diversity, Practices and Places" SEE https://www.routledge.com/Community-Filmmaking-Diversity-Practices-and-Places-1st-Edition/Malik-Chapain-Comunian/p/book/9780367876494 It's edited by Sarita Malik, Caroline Chapain, Roberta Comunian (London and New York: Routledge, 2019).
There is *** no evidence *** that the wiki article borrows or draws on another book: Cinema Beyond the City
In fact, this book was published in 2016, long after the wiki page was established in 2011. If anything, the book draws on wiki, not the reverse! (maybe that also indicates the significance of the page and its relevance to contemporary discussion of film) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.46.27 ( talk) 08:23, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Erik for clarifying. Yes, IP 77, I meant in no way that it plagiarized but rather p 198 of that book seemed to touch on the same elements as big v. small budget/local filmmaking. While AfD isn't for cleanup, an issue with this article as it stands as it's not one that someone unfamiliar with the genre can follow. My initial thought before AfD was stubbing it, but I cannot identify the core. StarM 13:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Editors here are invited to review the topic and the related comments at its AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Community film. Thanks, Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 20:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
There is a conflict about the genre of the above film. AllMovie says it is a comedy. I imagine if you have watched the film you wouldn't classify it the same, but regardless of common sense, this movie about disemboweling, rape and murder is now identified among the likes of Scary Movie and Trading Places. Input would be appreciated. Pinging Doniago as another involved editor. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 18:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
There is consensus that RhythmOne websites are usable for entertainment reviews with attribution. Some editors question the accuracy of these websites for biographical details and recommend more reliable sources when available.". You should get a secondary source per RSP for the genre classification. QueerFilmNerd talk 18:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
I suggest moving this discussion thread to Talk:Scream (1996 film) since it is film-specific and to best keep the thread on that talk page for future reference if a consensus emerges (and challenged later on). My initial impression from the above comments and looking at sources is that "horror" is too simple but that "comedy" is not suitable. We have to be wary of databases that tend to do a grab-bag approach of genres. Is it worth putting "satire" or "satirical" in the opening sentence? There may not be an easy answer to it, but it seems worth indicating the film's self-awareness upfront since it is a key noteworthy element. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 22:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, if there continues to be massive conflict over the inclusion of comedy as a genre, start an RfC. QueerFilmNerd talk 17:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
I've noticed that, on articles for American-produced films, the caption beneath the film's poster in the infobox will generally read "Theatrical release poster" (or something very similar), in accordance with WP:FILMPOSTER. However, on articles for films produced by most other countries, this isn't always the case. Take a look at a number of articles for films produced by the Japanese company Studio Ghibli, and you'll find that the infobox captions often read "Japanese theatrical release poster". The article for the most recent Best Picture winner, Parasite, has an infobox caption reading "South Korean theatrical release poster". The Bicycle Thieves article notes its poster as "Italian". Amélie's poster is designated as "French", Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon as "Chinese", A Separation as "Iranian", Solaris as "Soviet", etc. Those are just a couple examples.
There are exceptions, like Wild Strawberries making no mention of the poster's Swedish nature, or the Thai-produced Uncle Boonmee's "English-language release poster", but for the most part, it seems as though infobox captions treat the United States as the default country of origin, whereas posters for other countries need to be clarified. I don't think I've ever seen an infobox caption reading "American theatrical release poster". I feel that the solution to this would be to either (a) add a nationality to every poster caption across the board, including "American" for American-produced films, or (b) removing the nationality from captions altogether, unless the poster in question is not from the film's country of origin. — Matthew - ( talk) 18:32, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
On discord, for example DonGuess ( talk) 20:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Is there any information about the «David Lynch talks Mulholland Drive» (it’s on YouTube) interview on Wikipedia? I asked the same question on the Mulholland dr. talk page DonGuess ( talk) 15:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Just thought some folks here would like to be able to see proposed drafts and weigh in: Wikipedia:AfC sorting/Culture/Media/Films. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 03:02, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Is there any reason why genres has not been included as a field in the infobox for films? I ask because genre information is readily available on the internet from various sources, but is usually part of a proprietary dataset (unlike wikipedia data). Including genre in the infobox for films would create an extra data point that is freely available for people to use if they were to use the wikipedia dataset as a source of film data. ImDB, TMDB, etc. all have genres for most films, and allowing those to be referenced as the source would remove too much controversy around which genre(s) a film belongs to. ★Thorentis★ 04:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I am less sure about this one than the one above. Cwf97 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has been busy creating "feature films by year" categories - Category:2004 feature films as one example. I have a vague memory of this coming up before but i could be wrong. Is it a category that we need. We already have "films by year" so this seems a WP:OVERCAT. Aren't most films are considered feature films? Following up on that there is no criteria for what is and is not a feature film in any of the categories created. If my memory is off and if others consider these cats okay than fine - I just wanted to check before removing them got to be too big of a project. MarnetteD| Talk 20:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Should one of Template:Category diffuse or Template:All included be used for Category:Upcoming films? -- Julthep ( talk) 07:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Should Film Comment be included in the list of magazines about Film Studies (see the first paragraph of the article) DonGuess ( talk) 20:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Does any editor have a WrapPro account that they would be willing to get info from a source for me? I'm trying to access this source on TheWrap about the television series Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. but it is behind the WrapPro service. If anyone does and would be willing to copy the text to another site to share with me so I could look over its content to see what could be added, that would be much appreciated. I've approached the TV project as well, but felt asking here might yield results as well. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:42, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
I would very much appreciate help with this draft. I'd like to see it in Mainspace. Thanks. FloridaArmy ( talk) 22:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I'm trying to help trim down the List of years in animation and List of years in film articles, but it was reverted repeatedly by an IP named 87.11.133.242 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) ( [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]) (which is most likely Davide palladini ( talk · contribs)), even after I asked them to discuss these changes. Rather than getting involved in an edit war (which is forbidden), I'm opening up a discussion here. I think that the articles may need to be cut down to a more manageable size as per WP:NOTINFO and decide which films should go on these particular pages. That said, should we restore the List of years in animation and the List of years in film articles to the version before the IP disruptions? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 08:22, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is being held at Talk:A Bug's Life regarding the plot summary situation; it can be found here. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 08:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
In case anyone is interested, there's an RfC going on at Talk:Charlie's Angels (2019 film) looking to establish what proposed phrasing to use in order to best reflect the film's unsatisfactory box office performance in the lead. For anyone looking to weigh in, please have a read of the (somewhat lengthy, apologies in advance!) 3rd content section of the page before voting for one of the proposed options in section 6 below. Thank you to anyone who takes the time to help out! Davefelmer ( talk) 19:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Could some other editors take a look at Bathory (film)? Another editor and I are having a disagreement about what content should be included and how it should be presented. Other voices would be appreciated. BOVINEBOY 2008 17:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction#MOS:PLOTSOURCE and WP:PRIMARY. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 02:36, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Excuse me,I need to discuss replacing the poster with another one in the main article and that involves the 1962 film Lawrence of Arabia,Now I know that using this poster which is File:Lawrence of arabia ver3 xxlg.jpg ( /info/en/?search=File:Lawrence_of_arabia_ver3_xxlg.jpg) is used for the main article especially that it's made by Howard Terpning.
But I thought we can replace the poster in the main article with this one http://www.impawards.com/1962/lawrence_of_arabia.html because it's not ic0onic but is used in pop culture as well.I upload it in the main article once but it got rejected because it is a "free content" and the article prefers "non-free" content therefore I would like to know how I will make the poster I selected to be non-free and add it to the main article or you could at least make the poster "non-free" and replace this poster: /info/en/?search=File:Lawrence_of_arabia_ver3_xxlg.jpgwith this one http://www.impawards.com/1962/lawrence_of_arabia.html for the main article.-- Belrien12 ( talk) 03:25, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Input would be appreciated at Talk:Camp Blood Film Series#Potential Merge. BOVINEBOY 2008 10:27, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
I have nominated the article Squirm for Featured Article Candidacy. If anyone is interested in reviewing the article, that would be much appreciated. The nomination can be found here. GamerPro64 17:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Following this discussion above, I've created a discussion about a potential topic ban for this user at WP:AN. Pinging people from the last discussion @ MarnetteD, Erik, and Izno: Axem Titanium ( talk) 05:30, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
I started fixing errors in grammar and vocabulary in Il secondo tragico Fantozzi, but I have had to give up because in many cases I don't know what is intended. I strongly suspect it was translated from the Italian wiki article by someone with a less-than-perfect command of English.
I am posting this note to the talk pages of Il secondo tragico Fantozzi, Italian cinema task force, and WikiProject Film.
-- Thnidu ( talk) 21:02, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
The Lion King ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Kimba the White Lion ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
These two articles could use assessment from WP:Film editors on covering the Kimba the White Lion topic. Recently, there has been debate on covering the topic, and back and forth editing concerning it. See, for example, Talk:Kimba the White Lion#Debunked Information, poor sources and completely made up facts and Talk:Kimba the White Lion/Archive 1#Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2020 (permalinks here and here). Obviously, editors shouldn't be removing material because they don't like it, but rather because it's unsourced, poorly sourced, WP:Undue, and/or excessive. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 19:52, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Just to add - I had removed some of the aforementioned poor sources specifically that cited demonstrably untrue and made-up information, and the section with information on the video essay that kicked all this off was added back in by some other editors after some back-and-forth and the semi-protected edit expiration. The other sources have not been touched, including the misleading sources, most of which cite this book which was written by a friend of the creator of Kimba the While Lion. -- Bayou Tapestry ( talk) 22:07, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
There is discussion on whether the new article Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe should be name changed. Feel free to discuss on talk page. Jhenderson 777 17:18, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Why can't Amazon be used for a reference for release dates? I was referred to here by DonIago ( talk) in the article about The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp but I fail to understand why Amazon is any better or worse than something like DVD Talk -- SteveCrook ( talk) 08:32, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
2. Don't most sellers include or report the release dates? Where else can I show them? I think this is a case of "throwing out the baby with the bath water" :) -- SteveCrook ( talk) 08:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I'm currently in a debate with another editor on Talk:Captain Marvel (film), seen here /info/en/?search=Talk:Captain_Marvel_(film)#Highest-grossing_and_peak_positions, about including the movie's "peak box office position" in the lead. The other editor wants to use an archived version of the all-time box office standings on Box Office Mojo to find a date where the film held it's highest box office ranking relative to other films after its release and use it to source the peak. For example, this would entail using the source from a set arbitrary date in early 2018 to find when Thor: Ragnarok held it's highest ever position at the box office, seen here https://web.archive.org/web/20180131014417/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/. To me, this is pure WP:SYNTH and WP:OR, as no reliable sources outright state the film's "peak position" nor report on it and it's purely manipulating data to formulate your own point. The other editor disagrees and cites the fact that some of the movies on List of highest-grossing films have similar information on them which implies a consensus. Thus, as we're at a standstill, I want to seek a wider pool of opinions on the matter and see if we can formulate a clear and established consensus here. Because if there is consensus for it, I suspect it will affect a lot of movie articles on the project as you'll be able to use the same source in question to find archived versions of "peak positions" for every movie that has ever been in the top 100 to put into respective leads. Davefelmer ( talk) 20:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
19th Disney film, and 38th film overallto reach a billion dollars. I do think a bottom position should be set, it's not like a movie being the 52nd-highest-grossing film is relevant. I wouldn't be against setting the bottom at 20. El Millo ( talk) 22:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
...but if unavailable, the info could be included anyway with the BOM source only"
Does anyone know anything about bombreport.com? An IP editor cited this website at Event Horizon. Is this a self-published blog, or is it some kind of niche competitor to Box Office Mojo? There doesn't seem to be much info on their website. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 03:28, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
We could use some knowledgeable input at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 11#Category:Films about families please.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 18:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Per a request at WT:MED, I have cleaned this draft up a bit and believe it is ready for publication. (It most certainly met notability, so the decline is odd.) Could someone here check all the final details needed for film articles (I am not sure the title is correct) and publish it to main space if they agree? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 13:29, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Another one for review from a class (student editing); many will need help. I am slowly working through them. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:54, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
See full list here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 19:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
According to 2020 in film, Dolittle is currently the 3rd-highest grossing movie of the year, although relative to it's budget and break even point it was a box office bomb and lost a lot of money for the studio. On the article's page, the 3rd-highest position isn't listed and the film's box office underperformance is what's discussed. However, on Birds of Prey, the film is acknowledged as the 4th-highest grossing movie of the year despite ultimately suffering losses of around $50-100 million. On The Call of the Wild, which would be the 7th-highest grossing movie of the year, the note is again not listed and the film's box office underperformance is focused on.
My question is what is the standard for this? Should the blueprint be the Birds of Prey example or The Call of the Wild and Dolittle examples? Is citing a movie as one of the highest grossing of the year when a year has just started and the movie itself bombed financially puffing up a piece and trying to give it an inflated sense of success and importance or is it merely factually accurate? You can source the information through Box Office Mojo https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2020/?ref_=bo_cso_table_1 so it isn't pure WP:OR but as part of a discussion above ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Should_we_be_listing_a_movie's_%22peak_position%22_at_the_box_office?), editors came to the conclusion that BOM shouldn't be used on it's own and should be supplemented by other reliable news or media sources actually discussing or citing the relevant information. There doesn't appear to be such for the above movies, and in any case, what's the general policy here? If there isn't one as of yet, perhaps it should be established now. Davefelmer ( talk) 20:42, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm after some information re: the music of Die Hard and Google isn't really doing me any favours. Maybe Kamen didn't really do many interviews regarding the film, but I can't find much of anything. Does anyone have any good sources to check? Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 13:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello, all,
I wonder whether you all could help with the list at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine#Medical film and book articles from this course to be checked. WPMED's pretty good at the "medical" side of a health-related film, but I don't think any of us have much experience with the "film" side. These articles were produced by students taking a class that seems to be about how health issues get presented in pop culture. I'd love to have your help. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 23:18, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
So per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_May_24#Category:Sequel_films_by_decade, which deleted many of the recently created decade/specific year sequel cats that had been made, Category:Sequel films now is very empty (that CfD outright deleted the categories from articles, while it probably should have merged them back to the general sequel films cat). So my question is, do we need to repopulate this category, or should the 57 articles currently in it be diffused to more specific cats? - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:09, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and add {{ Category diffuse}} and diffuse the articles in the cat to more specific ones. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm concerned with the prodding marathon Donaldd23 seems to be undertaking. Now there's nothing wrong with identifying poor quality articles and improving them but he's confusing short articles with "lack of notability", and if he stopped to look in google books on a few of them in google books he'd find sources. Now I've told him I don't want to be spammed dozens of automated messages but the way prodding works, admins tend to delete the articles which are tagged, meaning that we're going to lose a lot of genuinely notable films in the process because he isn't looking for sources to expand them. A lot of them are older foreign films which might not have great coverage in web sources but star notable enough actors for that period in their countries.† Encyclopædius 16:36, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
I agree, Wikipedia isn't IMDB. There are articles which really aren't notable. But a lot of editors confuse lack of content with lack of notability. They tag short articles for not being notable when they're simply undeveloped. So you're going through a backlog of articles many of which shouldn't even be tagged in the first place. All I ask is that you search in google books too. You're prodding articles starring actors which are really quite notable for their period in the given countries. Dharmendra for instance was a huge star in India and no doubt all of his films would have been well reviewed in the newspapers over there, yet you presumed one of films wasn't notable. A lot of these films will have sources offline which are currently not accessible. You're obviously doing this because you want to improve the average quality, that's good, but films with multiple sources in google books shouldn't be getting deleted.† Encyclopædius 17:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
A deletion discussion for Draft:Peter's To-Do List has been started. Editors are welcomed to weigh in on the discussion, which can be found here. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 22:28, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
... has been Please see this conflict of interest noticeboard thread. Graham 87 17:59, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Watching films has become my number one pastime during lockdown, so I joined Letterboxd, and created a list of Wikipedia Featured Articles. Give it a like! The only non-lost film missing is Djaoeh Dimata, which would need manually adding to tmdb first. Someone with more dedication to maintenance could do a list for Good Articles, which I expect would prove more popular.
I've really enjoyed reading some (admittedly good, not featured) articles to supplement my viewing. It's given me other perspectives on the thing I've just watched, and a better appreciation of the subject. So I hope this list inspires you to watch more stuff and write featured articles, because many good articles are already really close. Fingers crossed for Squirm and The Beautician and the Beast at FAC right now. 86.177.125.233 ( talk) 13:06, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello all. I have listed the article Lost in Translation (film) for peer review prior to submitting it for featured article consideration. The 2003 film is directed by Sofia Coppola and stars Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson. I appreciate any feedback members of the WikiProject can provide. NTox · talk 06:06, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Earlier today a relatively new user, with less than 50 edits to their name and virtually no prior evidence of any expressed interest in film-related subjects, edited our article on the Canadian documentary film Shoot to Marry, piling on review after review to the point that the critical response section is now six times the size of the entire rest of the article put together. Now, to be fair, the reviews in reliable publications of record that I was able to find when I started the article were almost uniformly negative ones, so I get that the user was making a good faith attempt to try to balance those off with more positive commentary — but the reviews they chose to add to the article come very nearly across the board from WordPress and Squarespace blogs rather than real media.
I haven't seen the film yet and have no agenda around it per se, but if you have to dig into unreliable blogs to find positive commentary about the film, because the reliable sources almost all trashed it, then WP:NPOV does not demand that we waive our reliable sourcing rules, and give the film a special dispensation to use unreliable sourcing, on the grounds that "balancing" positive with negative commentary is somehow more important than the question of where the commentary is actually coming from. We care only about what established professional film critics say about it in media of record, not about what bloggers said about it on WordPress — so there's no rule that every negative review has to be matched one-for-one with a positive review even if you have to completely ignore RS rules to actually find enough positive ones.
They also misinterpreted the "critical response" header as "response that was critical as in negativity", and thus used that header to segregate the negative reviews from a separate "non-critical response" section for the positive reviews — but I've already fixed that and explained to them that critical response means "all response, both positive and negative, from film critics", so this problem has already been addressed. (And they also changed the film's basic description in the introduction to something really generic that didn't even begin to suggest the aspect of the premise that the negative-reacting film critics found squicky and creepy, thus making the negative-reacting critics sound disconnected from reality because the article provided no context for what they were actually talking about, but I've also reverted that as well.)
But the end result of this is still that the section is considerably longer than warranted, so I wanted to ask if anybody else is willing to take a look at the article and help to sort out which reviews are worth keeping and which ones aren't. Bearcat ( talk) 14:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 15:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, what is the community's attitude toward the types of columns that should typically be included in actor filmographies? I'm looking at List of Emma Stone performances, List of Bradley Cooper performances. I notice columns for directors. Are these typically included? I don't see them suggested at WP:FILMOGRAPHY and it seems like tangential information not particularly relevant to the performer, but I'm happy to be corrected. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Is it just me, or is Category:American children's animated comic science fiction films absurdly specific? NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 16:00, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Is there somewhere on Wikipedia that we can request photos like we do sources? Like someone who lives in the area can take a picture of a building and offer it under sharealike license types of requests? I want two pictures for the Die Hard article and it's very much a struggle to find free images. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 13:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion#RFC on including disambiguators in category names. – Fayenatic London 09:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Anuxps ( talk) 21:58, 2 July 2020 (UTC) I have requested to contribute a list article page for the subject of list of Bollywood movies released on the digital platforms. I need your approval to publish this draft link /info/en/?search=Draft:List_of_Bollywood_Movies_Released_on_Digital_Platform . Reviewer AngusWoof requested me to discuss here this here. I am trying to make a consolidate list of Bollywood movies which are released on the different digital platform. There are a various digital platform who are releasing the movies on their platform and end-user is not aware of on which platform movie would be available when it would be available. My list will provide consolidated information. The list you have mentioned is specifically made for one of the digital platform Hotstar but there are so many other platforms available and no consolidated list is here. A particular digital platform is also not having such an article mentioned about the list I am going to prepare and due to the same reason, I am asking to make a list of these. If you go and see in detail for each one of these digital platform lists, you can find but they have included for all region, all language movies and programs combined, and not having Bollywood specific list across all platforms. I hope I am able to explain to you the need for this contribution.
Could other editors look at Dos Corazones? It is an upcoming short film and from what I see, it does not have significant coverage for a stand-alone article (I have already started an AfD). But it is possible there may be more, although in Spanish. Can anyone do some digging to see if there are some sources for this film, or weigh in on the AfD? Thanks! BOVINEBOY 2008 13:20, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
There are hundreds of articles with citations to website ftvdb.bfi.org.uk (to pick an example, Tread Softly (1965 film) refers to http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/49683). However, all these links are broken. Not only that, but the base website itself has been hacked (try first link above to see). Is this recent? Is there any replacement for these links? Colonies Chris ( talk) 08:58, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello, folks. CAT:NN has a backlog of almost 12 years. Anecdotally, I find about 50% of them are notable and neglected. We have a backlog of over 1300 articles just for films, and are desperate for some people interested in and knowledgeable about films to look them over at: [12] Could you please consider promoting this? Thanks for your help, Boleyn ( talk) 14:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion regarding whether the category Category:Time travelers should be included on Steve Rogers (Marvel Cinematic Universe). Editors are welcomed to join the discussion at Talk:Steve Rogers (Marvel Cinematic Universe)#Time travel category. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 20:16, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I opened a discussion on whether or not the song "So Long, Lonesome" should be mentioned in the Last Night (2010 film) article on the article's talk page, and I would greatly appreciate any feedback on this. Thank you in advance! Aoba47 ( talk) 21:05, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
There's this old AfD discussion that raised the question of where to put content regarding a country's filmgoing culture and the business of operating cinemas. The Cinema of Foo articles are focused on the filmmaking side of things, but there doesn't seem to be any articles along the lines of Filmgoing in Foo or Film culture of Foo. As you can tell from the linked discussion, I'm approaching this from the viewpoint of Thailand. There's currently a considerable amount of interest in the history of the country's cinemas/movie theatres, which is probably a distinct enough topic from the country's filmmaking industry. But what should the article be titled? -- Paul_012 ( talk) 13:20, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard#Links to individual articles or interviews. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:58, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 11:09, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Lost in Translation (film) is now nominated as a featured article candidate. The 2003 film was written and directed by Sofia Coppola. It stars Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson. I appreciate any feedback the WikiProject can offer. NTox · talk 23:58, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:The Old Guard (2020 film)#Superhero film?. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 05:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I requested updates to the article on film producer Jeff Skoll at Talk:Jeffrey_Skoll#Request_for_Philanthropy that editors of this project may like to review. There has been new coverage of Skoll due to renewed interest in his 2011 film Contagion and his philanthropic efforts related to the COVID-19 pandemic. I'm hoping to make some updates to reflect that coverage. I work with the Jeff Skoll Group. With my conflict of interest, I will be careful to work with Wikipedia editors to build consensus on updates in place of directly editing the article. Thank you. JSG Lindsey ( talk) 20:11, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Anyone have any idea what's causing the bolding/centering for "America's Got Talent" at Natalie_Bassingthwaighte#Filmography?, Thanks, – Davey2010 Talk 20:27, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Incase you've missed it, please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Can other editors take a look at One Tough Mother. This is a DVD that is at AfD for not being a notable film. Citations are hard to come by about the DVD, despite the content of the DVD being talked about in other contexts. BOVINEBOY 2008 00:28, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
The problems have been bubbling away for months now, but BOM's fact-checking seems to have completely broken down in recent weeks. It is no longer fit for purpose. The problem though is that it is hard to think of a source that is more heavily utilised by film articles on Wikipedia. We are completely dependent on it. So the question boils down to what should we do about it? Obviously the correct answer is to remove it/replace it but that is a logistical nightmare. I have started a thread at Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_films#Does_Box_Office_Mojo_still_meet_the_criteria_for_being_a_reliable_source?. I don't think we should rush anything but we need to start taking action of some kind before the errors start to seep into Wikipedia. Betty Logan ( talk) 23:46, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion about the interpretation of Template:Infobox film as to the billing of actors in the infobox at the article Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga. The instructions state Insert the names of the actors as they are listed in the billing block of the poster for the film's original theatrical release. If unavailable, use the top-billed actors from the screen credits. Since this is a Netflix release, the poster lacks a traditional "billing block", but there are only 2 actors who are billed on the poster. It would be my understanding that would constitute "billing" per the instructions. And it has always been my understanding that infoboxes should be as minimal as possible and should only include as much key information as needed. TropicAces disagrees and has stated he believes the poster does not contain a billing block and therefore the infobox can contain more actors names. But I will not put words in his mouth and will ping him to allow him to respond in his own words. So my question is, do names on a film poster constitute "billing" as defined in the instructions at Template:Infobox film or does there need to be a clear traditional Billing block that includes the actors names, and director, and producer, and so on? This is an even more pertanant question as more and more films are starting to be released digitally or in streaming formats and may not have the traditional billing blocks that we have grown accustomed to.-- JOJ Hutton 15:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Nine times out of 10, the billing block seen on posters is the same as the names that appear individually on the screens before the credits (or after). Typically it’s 4-8 names, and it’s determined by the Screen Actors Guild based on screen time and contracts; it’s why some people get left off the SAG Ensemble nomination even if they seemed important. TropicAces ( talk) 03:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)tropicAces
This got me wondering: Are there criteria for awards to include in lists of accolades? "The awards that (or whose givers) meet WP:N", as mentioned in the common selection criteria for stand-alone lists, may be a good place to start, but just because an award is notable doesn't mean it has any real prestige. The Hollywood Film Awards, for example, seem more like an excuse to invite celebrities and give studios opportunities to promote their films than legitimate awards with voters with certain qualifications, as they are often given to films no one has seen yet, but they pass WP:N exactly for the coverage of this dubiousness (and there are worse awards, which have crept into articles).
So I'm inclined to say the accolades must be verified by reliable third-party sources to be included, but I also take the point that such criteria would exclude lesser-known but rather respected/transparent awards like ones given by critic circles. Are there past discussions/consensus on this? Nardog ( talk) 08:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
I wonder if it would be a good idea to add something akin to WP:ONUS (with "information" and "verifiable" replaced by "awards" and "notable", respectively) to the MoS, or perhaps to deprecate (or require third-party sources for) certain awards à la WP:RSP.Now that I think about it, the first idea is already covered by WP:ONUS itself, so it's probably not a good idea in view of WP:CREEP. So I'm currently leaning toward the second idea. Nardog ( talk) 12:58, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:45, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi. Please could someone take a look at the external links on Omerta (2017 film). I think they're spam, but I could be wrong. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:42, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Per above. It's like 60 dollars a month, Reliable Sources noticeboard has let me down. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 10:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
HumanxAnthro ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who joined the project this year has been busy adding "best of" "worst of" etc items to the accolade sections of film articles from a wide variety of sources. Here is but one example. They seem to bump into the guidelines WP:FILMCRITICLIST and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The thing that needs input is the fact that - while they are not mentioning specific festivals - which if they don't have articles should not be included - the items are from newspaper critics from cities large and small. Heaven knows I am not trying to disparage any of these cities or their surviving papers but a list like this Quiz Show (film)#Year-end lists is IMO hardly encyclopedic and highly indiscriminate. But that is just my view on it and any and all input from others will be appreciated. MarnetteD| Talk 23:49, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
James Rocchi, Cinephiled,
David Ehrlich, Film.com, and
Andrew Saladino, NothingButFilm. These shouldn't even be included if we were to say in how many lists it was featured. Regarding the rest, I'm more inclined to having a summary and just listing the most relevant ones. We could start by only including those where both the person and the work are blue-linked, plus a few that are clearly most notable, like Variety. El Millo ( talk) 18:23, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
I'm more inclined to having a summary and just listing the most relevant ones. Say "12 Years a Slave was included in X number of best-of lists", then name just a few of the most notable ones, like Variety, The New York Times, etc. As I said already:
We could start by only including those where both the person and the work are blue-linked, plus a few that are clearly most notable, like Variety. El Millo ( talk) 21:36, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
As some of you may be aware there have been major problems with data corruption on Box Office Mojo. We are currently in the process of getting it sorted. However, the problem has been tackled on multiple pages which isn't ideal. It appears that the work to fix BOM may be ongoing so I am thinking about setting up a film finance task force with the immediate priority of fixing the box-office data. Initially its main aim would be to centralise the problems and liaise with BOM. However, we have multiple box-office articles (in addition to the info included at general film articles) now and editors who exclusively work on these articles so over time it would perhaps become a more traditional task force. I would like to get some feedback on the idea i.e. editors who would perhaps be interested in signing up, anyone who thinks this is a crappy idea etc? Betty Logan ( talk) 21:20, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
@ Facu-el Millo, Bovineboy2008, Lugnuts, Sock, and Favre1fan93: The task force is up and running at WP:WikiProject Film/Film finance task force. At the moment it is bare bones. I will finish it off over the weekend and then talk to BOM again. Betty Logan ( talk) 20:13, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
A task force has been established at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Film finance task force to tackle the ongoing problems with Box Office Mojo. Correcting the data in Box Office Mojo is our priority at the moment given our dependency on the site, but the ultimate goal is for the task force to take a more traditional role.
The biggest problem with BOM is the "double counting" of grosses when a film is re-released. I have started compiling the errors in a table at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Film_finance_task_force#Box_Office_Mojo. The errors are very random and it is a bit like searching for a needle in a haystack, but if you have noticed any sudden/unexplained changes to box-office grosses then you need to check the reissue grosses and see if they are including earlier grosses in the reissue (and thus counting them twice). You can find examples of this at the task force page. If you find any errors please add them to the table. If you need any help with the formatting please ask at the task force talk page. Betty Logan ( talk) 13:29, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi there! I am planning to write the Plot section for the film Black Is King and I had a few questions:
1. The characters in the film do not have names. What would be the best way to write the summary? I feel like it would be confusing to write "the man", "the first woman", "the second woman", etc, so I was wondering if anyone had any ideas?
2. The Manual of Style states that in complex plots, "describe the events on screen as simply as possible in the plot summary and report interpretations in another section of the article." What section would one report those interpretations in?
3. The film is a "visual album" with the 14 songs from The Lion King: The Gift receiving visual counterparts. Unlike in musicals, most of the visuals for the songs are more conventional music videos, with varying levels of connection to the plot. Should what happens in these music videos be relayed in the Plot section (eg. one video takes place as a dream of the protagonist. Should the details of the dream be added to the section)? Also, should the song names be mentioned in the Plot section?
Thank you so much! Bgkc4444 ( talk) 09:20, 2 August 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444
Hi. Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:53, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi. On doing a bit of work on Apocalypse Now, I came across the American Movie Awards, and have nominated it for deletion. Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:55, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I am fairly new to wikipedia. I am looking for help improving the pages for The Tree of Life, Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, and Happy as Lazzaro. Where would I go to get that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pineapple4321 ( talk • contribs) 18:43, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Do we have a reason for including YouTube links in the soundtrack infobox in a film article? (For example [13] and [14]) In my view, this is not adding anything beneficial to the reader, they do not learn any new information by clicking on the link. Per WP:ELNO, we should not be including them. Thoughts? BOVINEBOY 2008 19:29, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
not learn[ing] any new information? Also per WP:ELNO it says at the top
Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject. If the YouTube link is an official page, then that link should stay as it indeed provides a great value to any reader. -- Gonnym ( talk) 10:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
So as long as the link is to the studio/companies official YouTube, it would be okay for inclusion? This would give me trepidation for other kinds links could be included (teaser clips of the film, trailers, behind the scene interviews, full clips of the film) that I think we have generally not included, especially when we have generally argued that if something is available through the official website, then we don't need to include an extra link. BOVINEBOY 2008 22:01, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Please will a project member experienced in this genre take a look and determine whetehr it ought to be an article? Fiddle Faddle 09:19, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
Anyone see anything unusual in this guy's filmography? Bet you can't find it unless you have an eagle eye! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 21:39, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
The FAC for this article has been up for over a month now and the last comment was nearly a month ago and could use more input one way or another if anyone is willing. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Groundhog Day (film)/archive1 Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 10:16, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
If anyone wants to help take a stab at this, I'd sure appreciate it: This source indicates that the trailer of the film Sadak 2 has received a record number of dislikes on YouTube. The reporter attributes this to filmgoers boycotting the film in the wake of the suicide of Sushant Singh Rajput, who some believe was not as successful as he could have been as a result of Bollywood tending to hire the children of established Bollywood figures. One of the film's stars, Alia Bhatt, is the daughter of Mahesh Bhatt, who is also directing this film. Awkwaarrrrd! Some folks on the talk page have asked for this content to be presented, but I'm not quite clear on how it should be presented in a way that provides adequate context. So I would appreciate if anyone might take the reins on this. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 18:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
There's an RfC regarding Kimba the White Lion that users might be interested in. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-3). 23:10, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
I've just started a stub article about the film Night of the Kings (La Nuit des rois), which is premiering at Venice in September and then being screened at TIFF a couple of weeks later. However, I'm having a bit of trouble sourcing information about the cast, so I just wanted to ask if anybody can help out.
The issue is that the cast includes actors named Bakary Koné and Laetitia Ky — however, I have been unable to find any sources which would clarify whether or not these are the same Bakary Koné (a footballer) and Laetitia Ky (an artist) that we already have articles about. One of the sources does indicate that this is Koné's first-ever acting role, so it seems plausible that it could indeed be the footballer — but without a source that explicitly says it's the footballer, I can't simply assume that. And the artist, similarly, seems plausible, but is not confirmed; her article also provides no indication that she's ever worked as an actress before either, and it's also listed as her first-ever acting role according to IMDb.
Accordingly, I've left both of their names unlinked in the article, pending verification of whether they're the same people or not, but I wanted to ask if anybody can help to locate the verification that's eluding me. Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 20:16, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Draft:Ashwin_Alok This draft was submitted over 2 months ago and its review is taking a lot of time. Subject is a filmmaker and one of his films (Bread Butter) was recently published on India's biggest OTT platform, Disney+ hotstar. Please review this soon. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashwinalok ( talk • contribs) 20:51, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
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I just saw this which changed a 2013 film's category from Category:Fox Searchlight Pictures films (now deleted) to Category:Searchlight Pictures films. It looks like XSMan2016 did this tagging and Fayenatic london closed it as completed. "Searchlight Pictures" was not a thing back in 2013. It seems like this re-categorizing should be undone. Did we already have a similar discussion about this related to Disney and Fox? Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 16:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
The discussion is at Talk:Il coltello di ghiaccio#Requested move 2 April 2020. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 10:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion taking place regarding the format for listing multiple films of the same title in alphabetical lists of films. Please consider heading on over and giving your thoughts and opinions on the matter if you feel inclined to do so. Thank you! — Matthew - ( talk) 22:35, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:Directorial debut films is kinda large: currently about 6,330 articles. That's much too big for useful navigation.
It seems to me that it would be much more use if diffused by year (where available), or by decade if the year is unavailable. This task can be done fairly easily using WP:AWB: I recently used it to diffuse Category:Debut novels into Category:Debut novels by year, Category:Debut novels by decade and Category:Debut novels by century.
I would like to do the same for the directorial debut films, if there is agreement here to do so. In view of the size of the category, I propose to run it as a bot job, using User:BHGbot. If there is agreement here, I will open a request at WP:BRFA seeking permission to use the bot for this.
Any thoughts? (Please ping me in replies). -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 17:44, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Update: this discussion has been open for only 24 hours, and should probably run for a few days before consensus is weighed. But in view of the positive comments so far, I have opened a bot approval request (BRFA) at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BHGbot 5 so that WP:BAG members can start technical evaluation of the task.
Please note that I am not trying to jump the gun here: I have noted there that the discussion here is still young. BAG is rightly cautious, so it won't authorise the bot task unless consensus is clear. But opening the BRFA now allows then to start assessing the proposed methodology. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 18:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Update: Bot task WP:BHGbot 5 has been approved [1] (thanks, @ Primefac) and the bot has begun work on the task: see Special:Contributions/BHGbot.
I will start creating the categories soon, after a short break to feed my gigolos.
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Update2 the bot has now processed about 2,200 articles (a third of the set), but I noticed that it is skipping about 10% of them.
I found the problem: the bot assumes that all the articles in a "YYYY films" category are there because of direct category markup, e.g. [[:Category:1916 films]]
. That assumption turns out to be false in about 10% of cases, which the bot is skipping. I found that the reason down is the use of {{
Film date}}, and have created some tracking categories to see what use cases I needed to consider doing a second run with bot on these exceptions: see
Template:Film_date#Tracking.
From what I have learnt so far, it seems that a simple modification to the bot will allow it to process about 85% of the remainder. I will then figure out what to do with the rest, but I think the bot should be able to do nearly all of them ... although it may take a few days longer than I expected. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:46, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Update3: Job done. The bot has finished its run, having done 5499 edits and skipped 683 pages.
I had prepared the methodology for it do a second pass to process most of the remainder, but to my surprise a peek at Category:Directorial debut films shows that it's all done; the remainder all seem to be upcoming films. Some further burrowing reveals that this was all done manually by Sc2353 ( talk · contribs), in over 500 edits. It's great to see it all done, and apparently done well, but I am sad to see a human editor spending a day of their life doing a task which a bot was ready to do unattended after about 10 minutes setup time.
Anyway, I think I'm done here. Thanks to To editors Lugnuts, Erik and Favre1fan93 for your support and feedback and to @ Primefac and TheSandDoctor for doing due diligence on the bot. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion about Extra Human Being. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:35, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
I've posted an RFC at Talk:Prix Iris about the way the awards ceremonies are numbered, because the way we're numbering them on the English Wikipedia is different from the way they're being numbered both on the French Wikipedia and by Québec Cinéma itself — those two are consistent with each other, and we're the ones making up our own road. I know not everybody here is particularly knowledgeable about Canadian or Quebec film, but I still wanted to announce the RFC here in case anybody cares to offer input. Bearcat ( talk) 17:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I work for Executive Writing, and as part of my consultancy, I work with United Talent Agency. I am hoping someone will be willing to take a look at the N.S. Bienstock page to help determine if it should be merged to direct readers to the United Talent Agency page. United Talent Agency’s acquisition of N.S. Bienstock was widely reported in the press when it occurred in early 2014. This acquisition is already referenced and sourced on the United Talent Agency page. You can see coverage of the initial acquisition here. THE N.S. Bienstock brand has since retired and is known now as UTA News & Broadcasting. This, too, is noted on the UTA page. Additionally, the N.S. Bienstock brand retirement can be documented by the fact that the entity no longer has an independent website. I believe the N.S. Bienstock page should be merged and simply refer readers to the United Talent Agency page, which already reflects the retirement of the NSB/shift to UTA News & Broadcast, but am looking for guidance from editors. I believe I've disclosed my conflict of interest appropriately. Thank you in advance for your help. EWChristine ( talk) 15:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Would interested editors please comment here Talk:Mad Monster Party?#Title of article. I'm actually having a hard time finding any sources that use the question mark but wanted to get other opinions before making any page move. Thanks. MarnetteD| Talk 19:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
There's currently a dispute at God's Not Dead (film) regarding WP:NPOV and WP:ADVOCACY. The discussion is at Talk:God's Not Dead (film)#References in paragraph 2, and the diff in dispute is here. JOE BRO 64 00:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
There's an ongoing discussion regarding a potential move for Colleen Villard. The discussion can be found at Talk:Colleen Villard#Requested move 11 April 2020. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Editors may be interested in discussing my proposed merger at the Deadpool talk page. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 03:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:17, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Morgellons is a controversial medical topic, per its relationship with delusional parasitosis. Could experienced film editors please review the considerable discussion on Morgellons talk, to provide some guidance on the film aspects of the documentary, wrt External links? Talk:Morgellons#Documentary probably worth a mention. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 19:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Talk:Blue_Is_the_Warmest_Colour#In_most_circumstances_ILL_Links_should_be_present_when_possible @ Erik: @ Sebastian James: There's an inquiry on the talk page on whether foreign language wiki articles on actors should be linked. There are several minor actors listed on the Blue_Is_the_Warmest_Colour article that have French Wikipedia articles but not English ones.
One possible concern raised is of the article on the foreign language Wiki being relatively undeveloped or lacking sourcing (this issue I believe affects the Japanese Wikipedia). I'm also linking this from the BLP noticeboard just in case as this does concern living people. One counterargument is that there are also ENwiki articles on actors/actresses that are relatively undeveloped and that one wouldn't remove blue links from that. WhisperToMe ( talk) 21:29, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
What do editors here think should be done at Blue Is the Warmest Colour specifically? WhisperToMe linked to the discussion at the beginning. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 12:36, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:52, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
I've been seeing some category-related edits that are changing decade-specific genre categories to year-specific genre categories, like this. Is there consensus for this more specific change, especially on a widespread scale? Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 18:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
A discussion regarding the above question is active at Talk:One Two Three#Requested move 16 April 2020. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:49, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm in the process of creating an article about the film "A Day in Black and White" ( draft sandbox), but there seems to be some discrepancy regarding the film's premiere date. IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes both indicate the premiere date as being August 31st, 2001, stating it premiered at the Africa in the Picture Film Festival. However, I have multiple RS ( here and here) indicating it was shown at SXSW in March 1999, and the film's trailer indicates it was "written and directed for HBO" and premiered on that network in February 2001. I would assume the SXSW showing would constitute the premiere date for Infoxbox purposes, but I would like a second opinion. Thanks in advance. - Brother Bulldog ( talk) 18:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
I haven't seen this film in awhile, in order to meet the standard for FILMPLOT, 140 words must be cut out of it. I am not wanting to chop out anything that's important to the film so if any editors who've seen it recently or remember the plot off the top of their head could do the trim, it would be appreciated. Rusted AutoParts 19:40, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi guys, I've been running related article Being Impossible through the GA process, but we have hit an issue that will take some help to resolve: I made the article before the release and was hoping that I would be able to add a full plot summary (if nobody beat me to it) when the film came out last year. For a variety of reasons, the film's release in different countries got pushed back to this year, so it's not been very lucky. HBO have got the film available on VOD - in the US. Neither the GA reviewer nor myself are both in the US and have a HBO subscription, so if anybody here is in the US with HBO and would be willing to watch an interesting film to give a plot summary, we would be very grateful! Kingsif ( talk) 23:35, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
The discussion about File:Envy Adams performance Scott Pilgrim vs. the World image.png is recently relisted into Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 April 22, where I invite you to discuss. -- George Ho ( talk) 03:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
I created virtual cinema today and wanted to share in case editors working on independent films' articles wanted to link to something about this particular strategy going on nowadays. Others are welcome to share similar articles. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 15:20, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
If interested, please share your thoughts on the use of galleries of cast images in film articles at Talk:Dilim#RfC: Cast images. BOVINEBOY 2008 00:33, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
In case anyone is interested, there is a rfc at Talk Dark Phoenix whether the phrase box office bomb should be used regarding the film. ToeFungii ( talk) 07:43, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
A requested moved is being discussed at Talk:Braindead (film)#Requested move 8 April 2020 which may be of interest to participants of this WikiProject. -- Netoholic @ 20:45, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi all. I'm looking at Box Office Mojo for Groundhog Day here and I'm a bit confused. it says it was in release for almost an entire year, but it only has records for 19 weeks. Any film being in release for a year is pretty rare as far as I am aware, even back then, but the total box office figure is the same as the 19 week figure. Can anyone explain this to me? And as an aside, has anyone ever come across any info of international numbers for the film? Thanks. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 22:15, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Some extra voices and views would be appreciated at Talk:Godzilla (2014 film)#Remove hatnote. BOVINEBOY 2008 10:29, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, can anyone suggest a reliable website/portal to systematically support information about the release date of home media such as Blu-ray and DVD? And in terms of accepted practices, is it OK to use commercial websites? Tanonero (msg) 09:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
(After an unfruitful quick search on the indicated websites) What I needed was sources supporting Blackfish's home release dates in UK and USA. -- Tanonero (msg) 10:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Films and TV shows often use the official/legal name for copyright/distribution credits for legal reason. However, some of those names may not be easily recognizable by the reader. For example, ABC Studios legal name is "Touchstone Television Productions, LLC" and Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment (WDSHE) is "Buena Vista Home Entertainment, Inc." (BVHE). Disney film DVDs and blu-ray usually say "Distributed by Buena Vista Home Entertainment, Inc." and we usually use the recognizable WP:COMMONNAME (WDSHE) as instead of the obscure unrecognizable legal name because the goal is to help the readers understand the content as opposed to wp:wikilawyering it up with legal jargon. Is it WP:OR to paraphrase and use the recognizable, non-controversial common name as opposed to word-for-word company name in the source?
Likewise, a reliable sources can mention cast or companies by a nickname or legal name as opposed to the precise and recognizable common name. For example, if a casting news article says "The Rock" instead of "Dwayne Johnson," is it original research to call him "Dwayne Johnson" even though it's obvious in the article? — Starforce13 20:40, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
There is a discussion about referencing Daily Mail film reviews on the talk page for RoboCop (2014 film). The discussion can be seen here. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 12:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
I used cite dvd, and entered the dvd barcode number in the ISBN field, however it returns an error, was wondering if anyone else uses cite dvd and if they enter the barcode number in the cite. Govvy ( talk) 08:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
A discussion regarding this film's title form is currently active at Talk:Y Tu Mamá También#Requested move 3 May 2020. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:32, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Is List of Academy Award shortlists something encyclopedic. I am not in the industry, but it seems sort of like WP:NOT.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:26, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at this article, in particular some of the things being discussed at Talk:The Call of the Wild: Dog of the Yukon? -- Marchjuly ( talk) 12:04, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
I've posted a request for comments at Talk:Canadian Screen Award for Best Original Screenplay, regarding whether a separate article is warranted or not. The explanation is fairly long because there was a lot of context to explain for why it was merged with another category instead of already having its own article, so I'm not going to repeat it all here, but the talk page offers more detail on why this is in question. Accordingly, I'd like to solicit some imput from other editors. Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 16:20, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Since this nomination is not generating enough interest on FAC; it was suggested that I post here to invite interested editors to review the article and leave constructive comments. Thanks to those willing to take part. Shahid • Talk2me 00:54, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
An RfC is open regarding the length of the cast list on It's a Wonderful Life; the details can be found here. - SchroCat ( talk) 15:12, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Would somebody be able to take a peek at Beta Test (film)? There's maybe one or two references that aren't citing someone's personal Facebook. DÅRTHBØTTØ ( T• C) 21:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I see that SibTower1987 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is busy adding awards to the accolades sections of various film articles - Goodfellas is one example. I thought that there was a consensus formed a few years ago that if the awards did not have a Wikipedia article that they weren't to be included. If I am wrong in this then S can proceed although I would add that I'm not seeing any references to WP:VERIFY the awards at the moment. MarnetteD| Talk 05:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
I just completed some technical cleanup of this article. It was marked as a Start-class, I believe it to be B-class and marked it so. As this project had a banner on it I thought you might want to be aware. —¿philoserf? ( talk) 04:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Is anyone familiar with this site? It has an actual UK box office for Groundhog Day (film) but I can't seem to see much info about the site itself. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 14:40, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello, if you have not checked out the Wikipedia Library yet, I recommend you do so. There are some sources (like Newspapers.com) that can help us look up coverage related to this WikiProject. We can also suggest sources, and I have suggested IMDbPro as a possibility. While we do not treat IMDb as a reliable source in Wikipedia articles, aspects of it such as getting news-related alerts can help us. You can find the IMDbPro suggestion here and upvote it. Thanks, Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 19:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi! Not tagged as within project's scope, but I think it probably is. Would folks more familiar with film mind a look at Community film? It reads like it was written by an academic (it was), but I think based on Cinema Beyond the City there's an element of notability, but I'm not sure where to start. Thanks! StarM 19:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
There has in fact been a recent collection of essays (avilable in hardback, paperback and ebook) devoted entirely to this important topic: "Community Filmmaking: Diversity, Practices and Places" SEE https://www.routledge.com/Community-Filmmaking-Diversity-Practices-and-Places-1st-Edition/Malik-Chapain-Comunian/p/book/9780367876494 It's edited by Sarita Malik, Caroline Chapain, Roberta Comunian (London and New York: Routledge, 2019).
There is *** no evidence *** that the wiki article borrows or draws on another book: Cinema Beyond the City
In fact, this book was published in 2016, long after the wiki page was established in 2011. If anything, the book draws on wiki, not the reverse! (maybe that also indicates the significance of the page and its relevance to contemporary discussion of film) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.46.27 ( talk) 08:23, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Erik for clarifying. Yes, IP 77, I meant in no way that it plagiarized but rather p 198 of that book seemed to touch on the same elements as big v. small budget/local filmmaking. While AfD isn't for cleanup, an issue with this article as it stands as it's not one that someone unfamiliar with the genre can follow. My initial thought before AfD was stubbing it, but I cannot identify the core. StarM 13:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Editors here are invited to review the topic and the related comments at its AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Community film. Thanks, Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 20:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
There is a conflict about the genre of the above film. AllMovie says it is a comedy. I imagine if you have watched the film you wouldn't classify it the same, but regardless of common sense, this movie about disemboweling, rape and murder is now identified among the likes of Scary Movie and Trading Places. Input would be appreciated. Pinging Doniago as another involved editor. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 18:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
There is consensus that RhythmOne websites are usable for entertainment reviews with attribution. Some editors question the accuracy of these websites for biographical details and recommend more reliable sources when available.". You should get a secondary source per RSP for the genre classification. QueerFilmNerd talk 18:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
I suggest moving this discussion thread to Talk:Scream (1996 film) since it is film-specific and to best keep the thread on that talk page for future reference if a consensus emerges (and challenged later on). My initial impression from the above comments and looking at sources is that "horror" is too simple but that "comedy" is not suitable. We have to be wary of databases that tend to do a grab-bag approach of genres. Is it worth putting "satire" or "satirical" in the opening sentence? There may not be an easy answer to it, but it seems worth indicating the film's self-awareness upfront since it is a key noteworthy element. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 22:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, if there continues to be massive conflict over the inclusion of comedy as a genre, start an RfC. QueerFilmNerd talk 17:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
I've noticed that, on articles for American-produced films, the caption beneath the film's poster in the infobox will generally read "Theatrical release poster" (or something very similar), in accordance with WP:FILMPOSTER. However, on articles for films produced by most other countries, this isn't always the case. Take a look at a number of articles for films produced by the Japanese company Studio Ghibli, and you'll find that the infobox captions often read "Japanese theatrical release poster". The article for the most recent Best Picture winner, Parasite, has an infobox caption reading "South Korean theatrical release poster". The Bicycle Thieves article notes its poster as "Italian". Amélie's poster is designated as "French", Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon as "Chinese", A Separation as "Iranian", Solaris as "Soviet", etc. Those are just a couple examples.
There are exceptions, like Wild Strawberries making no mention of the poster's Swedish nature, or the Thai-produced Uncle Boonmee's "English-language release poster", but for the most part, it seems as though infobox captions treat the United States as the default country of origin, whereas posters for other countries need to be clarified. I don't think I've ever seen an infobox caption reading "American theatrical release poster". I feel that the solution to this would be to either (a) add a nationality to every poster caption across the board, including "American" for American-produced films, or (b) removing the nationality from captions altogether, unless the poster in question is not from the film's country of origin. — Matthew - ( talk) 18:32, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
On discord, for example DonGuess ( talk) 20:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Is there any information about the «David Lynch talks Mulholland Drive» (it’s on YouTube) interview on Wikipedia? I asked the same question on the Mulholland dr. talk page DonGuess ( talk) 15:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Just thought some folks here would like to be able to see proposed drafts and weigh in: Wikipedia:AfC sorting/Culture/Media/Films. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 03:02, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Is there any reason why genres has not been included as a field in the infobox for films? I ask because genre information is readily available on the internet from various sources, but is usually part of a proprietary dataset (unlike wikipedia data). Including genre in the infobox for films would create an extra data point that is freely available for people to use if they were to use the wikipedia dataset as a source of film data. ImDB, TMDB, etc. all have genres for most films, and allowing those to be referenced as the source would remove too much controversy around which genre(s) a film belongs to. ★Thorentis★ 04:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I am less sure about this one than the one above. Cwf97 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has been busy creating "feature films by year" categories - Category:2004 feature films as one example. I have a vague memory of this coming up before but i could be wrong. Is it a category that we need. We already have "films by year" so this seems a WP:OVERCAT. Aren't most films are considered feature films? Following up on that there is no criteria for what is and is not a feature film in any of the categories created. If my memory is off and if others consider these cats okay than fine - I just wanted to check before removing them got to be too big of a project. MarnetteD| Talk 20:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Should one of Template:Category diffuse or Template:All included be used for Category:Upcoming films? -- Julthep ( talk) 07:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Should Film Comment be included in the list of magazines about Film Studies (see the first paragraph of the article) DonGuess ( talk) 20:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Does any editor have a WrapPro account that they would be willing to get info from a source for me? I'm trying to access this source on TheWrap about the television series Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. but it is behind the WrapPro service. If anyone does and would be willing to copy the text to another site to share with me so I could look over its content to see what could be added, that would be much appreciated. I've approached the TV project as well, but felt asking here might yield results as well. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:42, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
I would very much appreciate help with this draft. I'd like to see it in Mainspace. Thanks. FloridaArmy ( talk) 22:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I'm trying to help trim down the List of years in animation and List of years in film articles, but it was reverted repeatedly by an IP named 87.11.133.242 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) ( [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]) (which is most likely Davide palladini ( talk · contribs)), even after I asked them to discuss these changes. Rather than getting involved in an edit war (which is forbidden), I'm opening up a discussion here. I think that the articles may need to be cut down to a more manageable size as per WP:NOTINFO and decide which films should go on these particular pages. That said, should we restore the List of years in animation and the List of years in film articles to the version before the IP disruptions? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 08:22, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is being held at Talk:A Bug's Life regarding the plot summary situation; it can be found here. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 08:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
In case anyone is interested, there's an RfC going on at Talk:Charlie's Angels (2019 film) looking to establish what proposed phrasing to use in order to best reflect the film's unsatisfactory box office performance in the lead. For anyone looking to weigh in, please have a read of the (somewhat lengthy, apologies in advance!) 3rd content section of the page before voting for one of the proposed options in section 6 below. Thank you to anyone who takes the time to help out! Davefelmer ( talk) 19:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Could some other editors take a look at Bathory (film)? Another editor and I are having a disagreement about what content should be included and how it should be presented. Other voices would be appreciated. BOVINEBOY 2008 17:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction#MOS:PLOTSOURCE and WP:PRIMARY. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 02:36, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Excuse me,I need to discuss replacing the poster with another one in the main article and that involves the 1962 film Lawrence of Arabia,Now I know that using this poster which is File:Lawrence of arabia ver3 xxlg.jpg ( /info/en/?search=File:Lawrence_of_arabia_ver3_xxlg.jpg) is used for the main article especially that it's made by Howard Terpning.
But I thought we can replace the poster in the main article with this one http://www.impawards.com/1962/lawrence_of_arabia.html because it's not ic0onic but is used in pop culture as well.I upload it in the main article once but it got rejected because it is a "free content" and the article prefers "non-free" content therefore I would like to know how I will make the poster I selected to be non-free and add it to the main article or you could at least make the poster "non-free" and replace this poster: /info/en/?search=File:Lawrence_of_arabia_ver3_xxlg.jpgwith this one http://www.impawards.com/1962/lawrence_of_arabia.html for the main article.-- Belrien12 ( talk) 03:25, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Input would be appreciated at Talk:Camp Blood Film Series#Potential Merge. BOVINEBOY 2008 10:27, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
I have nominated the article Squirm for Featured Article Candidacy. If anyone is interested in reviewing the article, that would be much appreciated. The nomination can be found here. GamerPro64 17:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Following this discussion above, I've created a discussion about a potential topic ban for this user at WP:AN. Pinging people from the last discussion @ MarnetteD, Erik, and Izno: Axem Titanium ( talk) 05:30, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
I started fixing errors in grammar and vocabulary in Il secondo tragico Fantozzi, but I have had to give up because in many cases I don't know what is intended. I strongly suspect it was translated from the Italian wiki article by someone with a less-than-perfect command of English.
I am posting this note to the talk pages of Il secondo tragico Fantozzi, Italian cinema task force, and WikiProject Film.
-- Thnidu ( talk) 21:02, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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These two articles could use assessment from WP:Film editors on covering the Kimba the White Lion topic. Recently, there has been debate on covering the topic, and back and forth editing concerning it. See, for example, Talk:Kimba the White Lion#Debunked Information, poor sources and completely made up facts and Talk:Kimba the White Lion/Archive 1#Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2020 (permalinks here and here). Obviously, editors shouldn't be removing material because they don't like it, but rather because it's unsourced, poorly sourced, WP:Undue, and/or excessive. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 19:52, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Just to add - I had removed some of the aforementioned poor sources specifically that cited demonstrably untrue and made-up information, and the section with information on the video essay that kicked all this off was added back in by some other editors after some back-and-forth and the semi-protected edit expiration. The other sources have not been touched, including the misleading sources, most of which cite this book which was written by a friend of the creator of Kimba the While Lion. -- Bayou Tapestry ( talk) 22:07, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
There is discussion on whether the new article Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe should be name changed. Feel free to discuss on talk page. Jhenderson 777 17:18, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Why can't Amazon be used for a reference for release dates? I was referred to here by DonIago ( talk) in the article about The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp but I fail to understand why Amazon is any better or worse than something like DVD Talk -- SteveCrook ( talk) 08:32, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
2. Don't most sellers include or report the release dates? Where else can I show them? I think this is a case of "throwing out the baby with the bath water" :) -- SteveCrook ( talk) 08:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I'm currently in a debate with another editor on Talk:Captain Marvel (film), seen here /info/en/?search=Talk:Captain_Marvel_(film)#Highest-grossing_and_peak_positions, about including the movie's "peak box office position" in the lead. The other editor wants to use an archived version of the all-time box office standings on Box Office Mojo to find a date where the film held it's highest box office ranking relative to other films after its release and use it to source the peak. For example, this would entail using the source from a set arbitrary date in early 2018 to find when Thor: Ragnarok held it's highest ever position at the box office, seen here https://web.archive.org/web/20180131014417/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/. To me, this is pure WP:SYNTH and WP:OR, as no reliable sources outright state the film's "peak position" nor report on it and it's purely manipulating data to formulate your own point. The other editor disagrees and cites the fact that some of the movies on List of highest-grossing films have similar information on them which implies a consensus. Thus, as we're at a standstill, I want to seek a wider pool of opinions on the matter and see if we can formulate a clear and established consensus here. Because if there is consensus for it, I suspect it will affect a lot of movie articles on the project as you'll be able to use the same source in question to find archived versions of "peak positions" for every movie that has ever been in the top 100 to put into respective leads. Davefelmer ( talk) 20:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
19th Disney film, and 38th film overallto reach a billion dollars. I do think a bottom position should be set, it's not like a movie being the 52nd-highest-grossing film is relevant. I wouldn't be against setting the bottom at 20. El Millo ( talk) 22:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
...but if unavailable, the info could be included anyway with the BOM source only"
Does anyone know anything about bombreport.com? An IP editor cited this website at Event Horizon. Is this a self-published blog, or is it some kind of niche competitor to Box Office Mojo? There doesn't seem to be much info on their website. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 03:28, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
We could use some knowledgeable input at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 11#Category:Films about families please.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 18:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Per a request at WT:MED, I have cleaned this draft up a bit and believe it is ready for publication. (It most certainly met notability, so the decline is odd.) Could someone here check all the final details needed for film articles (I am not sure the title is correct) and publish it to main space if they agree? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 13:29, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Another one for review from a class (student editing); many will need help. I am slowly working through them. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:54, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
See full list here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 19:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
According to 2020 in film, Dolittle is currently the 3rd-highest grossing movie of the year, although relative to it's budget and break even point it was a box office bomb and lost a lot of money for the studio. On the article's page, the 3rd-highest position isn't listed and the film's box office underperformance is what's discussed. However, on Birds of Prey, the film is acknowledged as the 4th-highest grossing movie of the year despite ultimately suffering losses of around $50-100 million. On The Call of the Wild, which would be the 7th-highest grossing movie of the year, the note is again not listed and the film's box office underperformance is focused on.
My question is what is the standard for this? Should the blueprint be the Birds of Prey example or The Call of the Wild and Dolittle examples? Is citing a movie as one of the highest grossing of the year when a year has just started and the movie itself bombed financially puffing up a piece and trying to give it an inflated sense of success and importance or is it merely factually accurate? You can source the information through Box Office Mojo https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2020/?ref_=bo_cso_table_1 so it isn't pure WP:OR but as part of a discussion above ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Should_we_be_listing_a_movie's_%22peak_position%22_at_the_box_office?), editors came to the conclusion that BOM shouldn't be used on it's own and should be supplemented by other reliable news or media sources actually discussing or citing the relevant information. There doesn't appear to be such for the above movies, and in any case, what's the general policy here? If there isn't one as of yet, perhaps it should be established now. Davefelmer ( talk) 20:42, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm after some information re: the music of Die Hard and Google isn't really doing me any favours. Maybe Kamen didn't really do many interviews regarding the film, but I can't find much of anything. Does anyone have any good sources to check? Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 13:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello, all,
I wonder whether you all could help with the list at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine#Medical film and book articles from this course to be checked. WPMED's pretty good at the "medical" side of a health-related film, but I don't think any of us have much experience with the "film" side. These articles were produced by students taking a class that seems to be about how health issues get presented in pop culture. I'd love to have your help. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 23:18, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
So per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_May_24#Category:Sequel_films_by_decade, which deleted many of the recently created decade/specific year sequel cats that had been made, Category:Sequel films now is very empty (that CfD outright deleted the categories from articles, while it probably should have merged them back to the general sequel films cat). So my question is, do we need to repopulate this category, or should the 57 articles currently in it be diffused to more specific cats? - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:09, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and add {{ Category diffuse}} and diffuse the articles in the cat to more specific ones. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm concerned with the prodding marathon Donaldd23 seems to be undertaking. Now there's nothing wrong with identifying poor quality articles and improving them but he's confusing short articles with "lack of notability", and if he stopped to look in google books on a few of them in google books he'd find sources. Now I've told him I don't want to be spammed dozens of automated messages but the way prodding works, admins tend to delete the articles which are tagged, meaning that we're going to lose a lot of genuinely notable films in the process because he isn't looking for sources to expand them. A lot of them are older foreign films which might not have great coverage in web sources but star notable enough actors for that period in their countries.† Encyclopædius 16:36, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
I agree, Wikipedia isn't IMDB. There are articles which really aren't notable. But a lot of editors confuse lack of content with lack of notability. They tag short articles for not being notable when they're simply undeveloped. So you're going through a backlog of articles many of which shouldn't even be tagged in the first place. All I ask is that you search in google books too. You're prodding articles starring actors which are really quite notable for their period in the given countries. Dharmendra for instance was a huge star in India and no doubt all of his films would have been well reviewed in the newspapers over there, yet you presumed one of films wasn't notable. A lot of these films will have sources offline which are currently not accessible. You're obviously doing this because you want to improve the average quality, that's good, but films with multiple sources in google books shouldn't be getting deleted.† Encyclopædius 17:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
A deletion discussion for Draft:Peter's To-Do List has been started. Editors are welcomed to weigh in on the discussion, which can be found here. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 22:28, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
... has been Please see this conflict of interest noticeboard thread. Graham 87 17:59, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Watching films has become my number one pastime during lockdown, so I joined Letterboxd, and created a list of Wikipedia Featured Articles. Give it a like! The only non-lost film missing is Djaoeh Dimata, which would need manually adding to tmdb first. Someone with more dedication to maintenance could do a list for Good Articles, which I expect would prove more popular.
I've really enjoyed reading some (admittedly good, not featured) articles to supplement my viewing. It's given me other perspectives on the thing I've just watched, and a better appreciation of the subject. So I hope this list inspires you to watch more stuff and write featured articles, because many good articles are already really close. Fingers crossed for Squirm and The Beautician and the Beast at FAC right now. 86.177.125.233 ( talk) 13:06, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello all. I have listed the article Lost in Translation (film) for peer review prior to submitting it for featured article consideration. The 2003 film is directed by Sofia Coppola and stars Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson. I appreciate any feedback members of the WikiProject can provide. NTox · talk 06:06, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Earlier today a relatively new user, with less than 50 edits to their name and virtually no prior evidence of any expressed interest in film-related subjects, edited our article on the Canadian documentary film Shoot to Marry, piling on review after review to the point that the critical response section is now six times the size of the entire rest of the article put together. Now, to be fair, the reviews in reliable publications of record that I was able to find when I started the article were almost uniformly negative ones, so I get that the user was making a good faith attempt to try to balance those off with more positive commentary — but the reviews they chose to add to the article come very nearly across the board from WordPress and Squarespace blogs rather than real media.
I haven't seen the film yet and have no agenda around it per se, but if you have to dig into unreliable blogs to find positive commentary about the film, because the reliable sources almost all trashed it, then WP:NPOV does not demand that we waive our reliable sourcing rules, and give the film a special dispensation to use unreliable sourcing, on the grounds that "balancing" positive with negative commentary is somehow more important than the question of where the commentary is actually coming from. We care only about what established professional film critics say about it in media of record, not about what bloggers said about it on WordPress — so there's no rule that every negative review has to be matched one-for-one with a positive review even if you have to completely ignore RS rules to actually find enough positive ones.
They also misinterpreted the "critical response" header as "response that was critical as in negativity", and thus used that header to segregate the negative reviews from a separate "non-critical response" section for the positive reviews — but I've already fixed that and explained to them that critical response means "all response, both positive and negative, from film critics", so this problem has already been addressed. (And they also changed the film's basic description in the introduction to something really generic that didn't even begin to suggest the aspect of the premise that the negative-reacting film critics found squicky and creepy, thus making the negative-reacting critics sound disconnected from reality because the article provided no context for what they were actually talking about, but I've also reverted that as well.)
But the end result of this is still that the section is considerably longer than warranted, so I wanted to ask if anybody else is willing to take a look at the article and help to sort out which reviews are worth keeping and which ones aren't. Bearcat ( talk) 14:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 15:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, what is the community's attitude toward the types of columns that should typically be included in actor filmographies? I'm looking at List of Emma Stone performances, List of Bradley Cooper performances. I notice columns for directors. Are these typically included? I don't see them suggested at WP:FILMOGRAPHY and it seems like tangential information not particularly relevant to the performer, but I'm happy to be corrected. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Is it just me, or is Category:American children's animated comic science fiction films absurdly specific? NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 16:00, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Is there somewhere on Wikipedia that we can request photos like we do sources? Like someone who lives in the area can take a picture of a building and offer it under sharealike license types of requests? I want two pictures for the Die Hard article and it's very much a struggle to find free images. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 13:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion#RFC on including disambiguators in category names. – Fayenatic London 09:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Anuxps ( talk) 21:58, 2 July 2020 (UTC) I have requested to contribute a list article page for the subject of list of Bollywood movies released on the digital platforms. I need your approval to publish this draft link /info/en/?search=Draft:List_of_Bollywood_Movies_Released_on_Digital_Platform . Reviewer AngusWoof requested me to discuss here this here. I am trying to make a consolidate list of Bollywood movies which are released on the different digital platform. There are a various digital platform who are releasing the movies on their platform and end-user is not aware of on which platform movie would be available when it would be available. My list will provide consolidated information. The list you have mentioned is specifically made for one of the digital platform Hotstar but there are so many other platforms available and no consolidated list is here. A particular digital platform is also not having such an article mentioned about the list I am going to prepare and due to the same reason, I am asking to make a list of these. If you go and see in detail for each one of these digital platform lists, you can find but they have included for all region, all language movies and programs combined, and not having Bollywood specific list across all platforms. I hope I am able to explain to you the need for this contribution.
Could other editors look at Dos Corazones? It is an upcoming short film and from what I see, it does not have significant coverage for a stand-alone article (I have already started an AfD). But it is possible there may be more, although in Spanish. Can anyone do some digging to see if there are some sources for this film, or weigh in on the AfD? Thanks! BOVINEBOY 2008 13:20, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
There are hundreds of articles with citations to website ftvdb.bfi.org.uk (to pick an example, Tread Softly (1965 film) refers to http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/49683). However, all these links are broken. Not only that, but the base website itself has been hacked (try first link above to see). Is this recent? Is there any replacement for these links? Colonies Chris ( talk) 08:58, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello, folks. CAT:NN has a backlog of almost 12 years. Anecdotally, I find about 50% of them are notable and neglected. We have a backlog of over 1300 articles just for films, and are desperate for some people interested in and knowledgeable about films to look them over at: [12] Could you please consider promoting this? Thanks for your help, Boleyn ( talk) 14:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion regarding whether the category Category:Time travelers should be included on Steve Rogers (Marvel Cinematic Universe). Editors are welcomed to join the discussion at Talk:Steve Rogers (Marvel Cinematic Universe)#Time travel category. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 20:16, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I opened a discussion on whether or not the song "So Long, Lonesome" should be mentioned in the Last Night (2010 film) article on the article's talk page, and I would greatly appreciate any feedback on this. Thank you in advance! Aoba47 ( talk) 21:05, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
There's this old AfD discussion that raised the question of where to put content regarding a country's filmgoing culture and the business of operating cinemas. The Cinema of Foo articles are focused on the filmmaking side of things, but there doesn't seem to be any articles along the lines of Filmgoing in Foo or Film culture of Foo. As you can tell from the linked discussion, I'm approaching this from the viewpoint of Thailand. There's currently a considerable amount of interest in the history of the country's cinemas/movie theatres, which is probably a distinct enough topic from the country's filmmaking industry. But what should the article be titled? -- Paul_012 ( talk) 13:20, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard#Links to individual articles or interviews. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:58, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 11:09, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Lost in Translation (film) is now nominated as a featured article candidate. The 2003 film was written and directed by Sofia Coppola. It stars Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson. I appreciate any feedback the WikiProject can offer. NTox · talk 23:58, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:The Old Guard (2020 film)#Superhero film?. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 05:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I requested updates to the article on film producer Jeff Skoll at Talk:Jeffrey_Skoll#Request_for_Philanthropy that editors of this project may like to review. There has been new coverage of Skoll due to renewed interest in his 2011 film Contagion and his philanthropic efforts related to the COVID-19 pandemic. I'm hoping to make some updates to reflect that coverage. I work with the Jeff Skoll Group. With my conflict of interest, I will be careful to work with Wikipedia editors to build consensus on updates in place of directly editing the article. Thank you. JSG Lindsey ( talk) 20:11, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Anyone have any idea what's causing the bolding/centering for "America's Got Talent" at Natalie_Bassingthwaighte#Filmography?, Thanks, – Davey2010 Talk 20:27, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Incase you've missed it, please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Can other editors take a look at One Tough Mother. This is a DVD that is at AfD for not being a notable film. Citations are hard to come by about the DVD, despite the content of the DVD being talked about in other contexts. BOVINEBOY 2008 00:28, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
The problems have been bubbling away for months now, but BOM's fact-checking seems to have completely broken down in recent weeks. It is no longer fit for purpose. The problem though is that it is hard to think of a source that is more heavily utilised by film articles on Wikipedia. We are completely dependent on it. So the question boils down to what should we do about it? Obviously the correct answer is to remove it/replace it but that is a logistical nightmare. I have started a thread at Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_films#Does_Box_Office_Mojo_still_meet_the_criteria_for_being_a_reliable_source?. I don't think we should rush anything but we need to start taking action of some kind before the errors start to seep into Wikipedia. Betty Logan ( talk) 23:46, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion about the interpretation of Template:Infobox film as to the billing of actors in the infobox at the article Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga. The instructions state Insert the names of the actors as they are listed in the billing block of the poster for the film's original theatrical release. If unavailable, use the top-billed actors from the screen credits. Since this is a Netflix release, the poster lacks a traditional "billing block", but there are only 2 actors who are billed on the poster. It would be my understanding that would constitute "billing" per the instructions. And it has always been my understanding that infoboxes should be as minimal as possible and should only include as much key information as needed. TropicAces disagrees and has stated he believes the poster does not contain a billing block and therefore the infobox can contain more actors names. But I will not put words in his mouth and will ping him to allow him to respond in his own words. So my question is, do names on a film poster constitute "billing" as defined in the instructions at Template:Infobox film or does there need to be a clear traditional Billing block that includes the actors names, and director, and producer, and so on? This is an even more pertanant question as more and more films are starting to be released digitally or in streaming formats and may not have the traditional billing blocks that we have grown accustomed to.-- JOJ Hutton 15:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Nine times out of 10, the billing block seen on posters is the same as the names that appear individually on the screens before the credits (or after). Typically it’s 4-8 names, and it’s determined by the Screen Actors Guild based on screen time and contracts; it’s why some people get left off the SAG Ensemble nomination even if they seemed important. TropicAces ( talk) 03:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)tropicAces
This got me wondering: Are there criteria for awards to include in lists of accolades? "The awards that (or whose givers) meet WP:N", as mentioned in the common selection criteria for stand-alone lists, may be a good place to start, but just because an award is notable doesn't mean it has any real prestige. The Hollywood Film Awards, for example, seem more like an excuse to invite celebrities and give studios opportunities to promote their films than legitimate awards with voters with certain qualifications, as they are often given to films no one has seen yet, but they pass WP:N exactly for the coverage of this dubiousness (and there are worse awards, which have crept into articles).
So I'm inclined to say the accolades must be verified by reliable third-party sources to be included, but I also take the point that such criteria would exclude lesser-known but rather respected/transparent awards like ones given by critic circles. Are there past discussions/consensus on this? Nardog ( talk) 08:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
I wonder if it would be a good idea to add something akin to WP:ONUS (with "information" and "verifiable" replaced by "awards" and "notable", respectively) to the MoS, or perhaps to deprecate (or require third-party sources for) certain awards à la WP:RSP.Now that I think about it, the first idea is already covered by WP:ONUS itself, so it's probably not a good idea in view of WP:CREEP. So I'm currently leaning toward the second idea. Nardog ( talk) 12:58, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:45, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi. Please could someone take a look at the external links on Omerta (2017 film). I think they're spam, but I could be wrong. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:42, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Per above. It's like 60 dollars a month, Reliable Sources noticeboard has let me down. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 10:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
HumanxAnthro ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who joined the project this year has been busy adding "best of" "worst of" etc items to the accolade sections of film articles from a wide variety of sources. Here is but one example. They seem to bump into the guidelines WP:FILMCRITICLIST and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The thing that needs input is the fact that - while they are not mentioning specific festivals - which if they don't have articles should not be included - the items are from newspaper critics from cities large and small. Heaven knows I am not trying to disparage any of these cities or their surviving papers but a list like this Quiz Show (film)#Year-end lists is IMO hardly encyclopedic and highly indiscriminate. But that is just my view on it and any and all input from others will be appreciated. MarnetteD| Talk 23:49, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
James Rocchi, Cinephiled,
David Ehrlich, Film.com, and
Andrew Saladino, NothingButFilm. These shouldn't even be included if we were to say in how many lists it was featured. Regarding the rest, I'm more inclined to having a summary and just listing the most relevant ones. We could start by only including those where both the person and the work are blue-linked, plus a few that are clearly most notable, like Variety. El Millo ( talk) 18:23, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
I'm more inclined to having a summary and just listing the most relevant ones. Say "12 Years a Slave was included in X number of best-of lists", then name just a few of the most notable ones, like Variety, The New York Times, etc. As I said already:
We could start by only including those where both the person and the work are blue-linked, plus a few that are clearly most notable, like Variety. El Millo ( talk) 21:36, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
As some of you may be aware there have been major problems with data corruption on Box Office Mojo. We are currently in the process of getting it sorted. However, the problem has been tackled on multiple pages which isn't ideal. It appears that the work to fix BOM may be ongoing so I am thinking about setting up a film finance task force with the immediate priority of fixing the box-office data. Initially its main aim would be to centralise the problems and liaise with BOM. However, we have multiple box-office articles (in addition to the info included at general film articles) now and editors who exclusively work on these articles so over time it would perhaps become a more traditional task force. I would like to get some feedback on the idea i.e. editors who would perhaps be interested in signing up, anyone who thinks this is a crappy idea etc? Betty Logan ( talk) 21:20, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
@ Facu-el Millo, Bovineboy2008, Lugnuts, Sock, and Favre1fan93: The task force is up and running at WP:WikiProject Film/Film finance task force. At the moment it is bare bones. I will finish it off over the weekend and then talk to BOM again. Betty Logan ( talk) 20:13, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
A task force has been established at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Film finance task force to tackle the ongoing problems with Box Office Mojo. Correcting the data in Box Office Mojo is our priority at the moment given our dependency on the site, but the ultimate goal is for the task force to take a more traditional role.
The biggest problem with BOM is the "double counting" of grosses when a film is re-released. I have started compiling the errors in a table at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Film_finance_task_force#Box_Office_Mojo. The errors are very random and it is a bit like searching for a needle in a haystack, but if you have noticed any sudden/unexplained changes to box-office grosses then you need to check the reissue grosses and see if they are including earlier grosses in the reissue (and thus counting them twice). You can find examples of this at the task force page. If you find any errors please add them to the table. If you need any help with the formatting please ask at the task force talk page. Betty Logan ( talk) 13:29, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi there! I am planning to write the Plot section for the film Black Is King and I had a few questions:
1. The characters in the film do not have names. What would be the best way to write the summary? I feel like it would be confusing to write "the man", "the first woman", "the second woman", etc, so I was wondering if anyone had any ideas?
2. The Manual of Style states that in complex plots, "describe the events on screen as simply as possible in the plot summary and report interpretations in another section of the article." What section would one report those interpretations in?
3. The film is a "visual album" with the 14 songs from The Lion King: The Gift receiving visual counterparts. Unlike in musicals, most of the visuals for the songs are more conventional music videos, with varying levels of connection to the plot. Should what happens in these music videos be relayed in the Plot section (eg. one video takes place as a dream of the protagonist. Should the details of the dream be added to the section)? Also, should the song names be mentioned in the Plot section?
Thank you so much! Bgkc4444 ( talk) 09:20, 2 August 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444
Hi. Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:53, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi. On doing a bit of work on Apocalypse Now, I came across the American Movie Awards, and have nominated it for deletion. Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:55, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I am fairly new to wikipedia. I am looking for help improving the pages for The Tree of Life, Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, and Happy as Lazzaro. Where would I go to get that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pineapple4321 ( talk • contribs) 18:43, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Do we have a reason for including YouTube links in the soundtrack infobox in a film article? (For example [13] and [14]) In my view, this is not adding anything beneficial to the reader, they do not learn any new information by clicking on the link. Per WP:ELNO, we should not be including them. Thoughts? BOVINEBOY 2008 19:29, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
not learn[ing] any new information? Also per WP:ELNO it says at the top
Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject. If the YouTube link is an official page, then that link should stay as it indeed provides a great value to any reader. -- Gonnym ( talk) 10:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
So as long as the link is to the studio/companies official YouTube, it would be okay for inclusion? This would give me trepidation for other kinds links could be included (teaser clips of the film, trailers, behind the scene interviews, full clips of the film) that I think we have generally not included, especially when we have generally argued that if something is available through the official website, then we don't need to include an extra link. BOVINEBOY 2008 22:01, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Please will a project member experienced in this genre take a look and determine whetehr it ought to be an article? Fiddle Faddle 09:19, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
Anyone see anything unusual in this guy's filmography? Bet you can't find it unless you have an eagle eye! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 21:39, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
The FAC for this article has been up for over a month now and the last comment was nearly a month ago and could use more input one way or another if anyone is willing. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Groundhog Day (film)/archive1 Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 10:16, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
If anyone wants to help take a stab at this, I'd sure appreciate it: This source indicates that the trailer of the film Sadak 2 has received a record number of dislikes on YouTube. The reporter attributes this to filmgoers boycotting the film in the wake of the suicide of Sushant Singh Rajput, who some believe was not as successful as he could have been as a result of Bollywood tending to hire the children of established Bollywood figures. One of the film's stars, Alia Bhatt, is the daughter of Mahesh Bhatt, who is also directing this film. Awkwaarrrrd! Some folks on the talk page have asked for this content to be presented, but I'm not quite clear on how it should be presented in a way that provides adequate context. So I would appreciate if anyone might take the reins on this. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 18:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
There's an RfC regarding Kimba the White Lion that users might be interested in. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-3). 23:10, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
I've just started a stub article about the film Night of the Kings (La Nuit des rois), which is premiering at Venice in September and then being screened at TIFF a couple of weeks later. However, I'm having a bit of trouble sourcing information about the cast, so I just wanted to ask if anybody can help out.
The issue is that the cast includes actors named Bakary Koné and Laetitia Ky — however, I have been unable to find any sources which would clarify whether or not these are the same Bakary Koné (a footballer) and Laetitia Ky (an artist) that we already have articles about. One of the sources does indicate that this is Koné's first-ever acting role, so it seems plausible that it could indeed be the footballer — but without a source that explicitly says it's the footballer, I can't simply assume that. And the artist, similarly, seems plausible, but is not confirmed; her article also provides no indication that she's ever worked as an actress before either, and it's also listed as her first-ever acting role according to IMDb.
Accordingly, I've left both of their names unlinked in the article, pending verification of whether they're the same people or not, but I wanted to ask if anybody can help to locate the verification that's eluding me. Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 20:16, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Draft:Ashwin_Alok This draft was submitted over 2 months ago and its review is taking a lot of time. Subject is a filmmaker and one of his films (Bread Butter) was recently published on India's biggest OTT platform, Disney+ hotstar. Please review this soon. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashwinalok ( talk • contribs) 20:51, 14 August 2020 (UTC)