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A RFC has been started to gauge the way the page is ordered. To change the Electronic cigarette article, which is about a consumer product, from its present order to one that as Health Effects first. There was a previous RFC that found no consensus for a medical order. Here is a link to the current RFC. AlbinoFerret 21:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure you've been advised to do this a million times, but doesn't it make a lot of sense to increase the size of your "search box?" That's why 99.99% of people come to your webpage, not for "featured articles" or "Did you know's...." And yet it's this tiny box up in the corner. Makes no sense at all. Please, just make this common sense suggestion happen. You should also seriously consider putting it more front and center, rather than stuck in a corner. That really makes no sense either.
Thanks kindly.
JS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.132.83 ( talk) 19:33, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I agree with JS, I'd make the search box 300px wide. I'd also increase font size by 20%. -- NaBUru38 ( talk) 15:35, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
I am not certain in wich forum to put the questions.
I am buzy drawing KML lines to get to calculate the distance from Ferrol tot Bilbao. Ferrol Infiesto 307 km I have come to Infiesto. As I am not even halfway the mentioned distance of 650 km for Ferrol - Bilbao looks real. The problem with the source is that it is looping. fact-index gets its information from Wikipedia. Does someone know the original source? I have tried Google but no luck this far.
How can I make a vectorial map once I have researched the KML lines? There are a lot of details to add such as tunnels and stations. In the past I have drawn lots of maps such as File:Charleroi SNCV-SNCB openstreetmap background.png with Photoshop and layer, but this is labour intensive and not flexible.
Last a railway question: is there a connection between the FEVE lines and the EuskoTren network in Bilbao. My reference books are unclear about this point. In some historic maps there is an connection but not in others. Smiley.toerist ( talk) 21:17, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Is this page actually same as Finnish Wikipedians , " Kahvihuone / Kysy vapaasti"^^^^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.27.99.96 ( talk) 10:01, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
tried — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiman897 ( talk • contribs) 16:40, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure where the appropriate forum for this discussion would be so it landed here. This concerns the use of the "mass message" user right by Technical 13 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Last week I got this message [1] delivered by the mass message bot thing. Note the irony of claiming "heartfelt and warm greetings" followed by an explanation that this is an automated message sent to every single person who has ever made an edit to his talk page. Like ever. I looked at my contribs to talk pages and as far as I can see whatever edit I made there was more than a year ago. If I don't want to receive this message every year for the rest of my life, I have to explicitly opt out of it by removing my name from a list in his userspace. A list that does not appear to be well-maintained as it contains some users who have been blocked or banned for a long time, some of whom would not even have talk page access so they can't remove or archive the message, let alone remove themselves from the list.
Sorry for being a Scrooge, but I do not feel this is an appropriate use of mass messaging. If you want to send out "Season's Greetings" that's fine but it should be personal, not some auto-generated spam list, and I don't feel that I should have to explicitly opt out of something I had no idea I was opting into. Beeblebrox ( talk) 20:34, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm making a subsection here since this thought is associated with Technical 13 and spreading of information, but not with Season Greetings.
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22:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)I keep running into articles that cite http://www.leighrayment.com/, along with super-headings that this is not a reliable resource. Somewhere in the past this source was heavily used, and there appears to be a macro that takes this: "{{Rayment-hc|date=March 2012}}" and turns it into a full citation. So my questions are: 1) can anyone give me that background on this (I'm curious), and 2) what should we do with these articles? These folks are highly unlikely to turn up in a Google search, that's for sure. Thanks, LaMona ( talk) 00:29, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
There is currently a RFC on the Bitcoin article asking if criminal activities should be in the lead. Here is a link Uninvolved editors adding a comment would be helpful. AlbinoFerret 17:28, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
According to this page the following critical articles (of M:List of articles every Wikipedia should have) at less than 10k count as "stubs"
Another 120 are listed as "short".
A Happy New-Year!
Rich
Farmbrough, 18:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC).
Feel free to translate this message in your language!
On January 1 we celebrate Public Domain Day as many works of authors who died 70+ years ago now enter the public domain and can be used freely.
Let us be aware: copyright is temporary. It only lasts during the authors lifetime and 70 years afterwards (in most countries). During those years it is limiting Wikipedia and her sister projects in showing works of art, literature, public art and buildings in countries without freedom of panorama, and more in the articles. But now a new batch is freed from copyrights!
An overview of images and texts that are restored or added to the Wikimedia Commons, are collected on: this page.
Many of these files still need a place in articles. You can help!
You can also help by uploading new files of subjects that are freed of copyrights.
You can also help by tagging all requests for deletion pages with the
category when the file can be restored, which will be/was deleted.
As I follow the log of restored files this week, more images and texts will follow. If still files or texts are missing in the list, let me know or add them yourselves.
A very happy Public Domain Day! Romaine ( talk) 17:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
There are at about 850 pages with the with checksum in the ISBN-13 does not match. I use WP:WPCleaner (by selecting error #73) to spot these and then copy the book's title in Amazon or any other site to find the correct ISBN and fix it. This is time consuming! I need help from the community! Example. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 13:27, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I wonder whether Rich Farmbrough could help us. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 00:06, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
First of all I do not know if this is the correct place to ask this question. If not, I'd appreciate for someone to direct me to the correct location.
Would Earnest Pletch meet the requirements of WP:Notability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stolitsa740 ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
For many years a subfeature of google news -- the google news archive -- was a feature that was extremely useful to serious wikipedia contributors. But then, with no advance notice, the archive feature went away, or seemed to go away, following a cosmetic redesign.
Now google news seems to have google news archive feature again. Google has been aggressive in trying to force me to use an interface customized for Canada. Is it my imagination the archive feature went away? And, if it did, I'd be interested in the opinion of others as to how comparable is this archive feature to the original archive feature? Geo Swan ( talk) 12:51, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Hey. I just wanted to ask if anybody knows what company is copyright owner of Lana Del Rey's Summertime Sadness, because someone illegally used that song in their video and I wanted to let the copyright owners know, but I don't know who they are. Alex discussion ★ 21:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
I've just finished an article intituled m:A Wikimedian ambassador in south of India. If somebody is interested, just click. A nice day to every one. Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Wiki ou eMail 20:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Can you help me to translate fr:Affaire_Typhaine_Taton. It could be a good article for our encyclpedia. Regards. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 09:46, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Talk:9/11_conspiracy_theories#.22Civil_engineering_community.22 Dornicke ( talk) 12:13, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
This is not going to lead to anything productive. Please, take this hatting the right way and either take a Wikibreak, or find something on Wikipedia that is more productive. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:12, 17 January 2015 (UTC) | |||||
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The Speedy deletion of Adam (band) is again another example of why wikipedia needs to be seriously reformed. 750editsstrong ( talk) 22:57, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Deletions_and_editor_retention If deleted see this page: /info/en/?search=User_talk:Thewhitebox#RFC Full text: Studies show, editing on wikipedia is stagnating. I have been an editor off and on wikipedia for 12 years. Wikipedia has become less and less welcoming for new editors because of more and more deletion and speed deletion rules. There is a very negative company culture about new edits here on wikipedia. Editors who encourage deletion of good faith edits are rewarded, editors who fight against this trend are banned or leave in frustration.
Editors, especially new editors, are consistently treated like shit here by a like minded group of editors.
I have come to one sad conclusion: That Jimmy Wales, the founder of this site, is the person most responsible for this trend. He is most responsbile for this site's negative company culture. I believe that it is in the best interest of the long term future of Wikipedia that Jimmy Wales step down. I beleive wikipedia needs a new company culture that is more inclusive and kind. If you have a better idea how to change this trend, something that has never been tried before, I would love to hear it. Thoughts?
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@ 750editsstrong: Ansh666 is not deleting whole sections of the noticeboard. He is simply removing what he thinks is spam, especially because of the incidents surrounding this event. Your contributions are still there, but there is no need to shout or post this everywhere. Also, the data from the experiment is 5 years old. It is time to move on. Drop the stick. -- Orduin ⋠ T⋡ 23:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC) A deletion notice was placed on an article with zero sources, despite the edit page screen telling users multiple times that sources are required. I see no symptom of the downfall of Wikipedia here. It functioned as desired and as designed. -- Golbez ( talk) 23:29, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
I regularly patrol CAT:CSD looking for "bad" A7s and try and decline any ones that don't meet the criteria ( example). However, most do. Additionally, the actual facts and figures at WP:NEWT show that, at least in 2009, NPP was far less "trigger happy" on CSDs than 80%. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:16, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
So an old editor pretending to be a newbie creates a pointless article on a WP:NOTNEWS band, gets the response they wanted, and rushes everywhere to raise a big WP:POINT? Yawn. Reso lute 20:04, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
The root of the problemI think that what's going on here is as follows:
Just to clarify the obsticals a new user must overcome now in order to become a siginficantly constructive editor:
עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:48, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Is it a problem?Re: "The big question is, then, how do we reverse this?"... I'm going to play devil's advocate here... the question assumes that the decline in number of editors is a bad thing that needs to be "reversed"... but is it really? Before we tackle the big question of how to reverse the decline, I think we need to ask the bigger question: do we actually want to reverse the decline (and why)? Has anyone examined the possibility that having fewer editors actually results in a better encyclopedia? Blueboar ( talk) 18:10, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
The forest instead of the treeHere is what happened:
The bottom line is this:
'Concrete Solution':
750editsstrong ( talk) 18:42, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
To whom it may concern: My preceding comment was caught in an edit conflict but I agree with the hatting. If anyone wants to migrate my comment into the hat feel free. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 21:22, 17 January 2015 (UTC) |
Hi folks,
His this type of comment are frequent on English Wikipedia ?
A nice day for every one, Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Wiki ou eMail 00:11, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedians, on 17 January 2015 00:00 (UTC) began with the competition picture of the year in the Commons. Join the contest in the first selection of the best images Wikipedia every year. Do vote for the pictures you like better. If you have an account opened in the Commons to vote before January 1, 2015, and must have at least 75 changes to any wiki project. Good wikis. Uğurkent ( talk) 16:40, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Not sure where else to query about this -- but since WMF employees do lurk here...
Wednesday I received an email from the Foundation that starts: "We are researchers from the Wikimedia Foundation and created this survey to help the Wikimedia Foundation better understand your current experience and inform future software development to address your needs with the editing interface. You are the experts, and we need to hear from you." I read it this morning & since it sounds both interesting & a good use of my time, I decide to take part.
Instructions are "Follow this link to the Survey". Only there is no link to any survey. Or any web page.
I checked the raw text of the email to see if the URL might be there. No luck. The text mentions one email address I could send a message to -- optoutresearch AT wikimedia.org (munged out of habit) -- only I don't want to unsubscribe. And the email came from noreply AT qemailserver.com -- which suggests that email account is not read by any human.
So what's the story? Another screwup by the Foundation, or just another phishing/spam exploit? (And if there is a real survey of Wikipedians, yes I would be interested in participating.) -- llywrch ( talk) 17:35, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee clerk team is currently looking for a few dependable and mature editors (adminship not needed) willing to serve as clerks. The responsibilities of clerks include opening and closing arbitration cases and motions; notifying parties of cases, decisions, and other committee actions; maintaining the requests for Arbitration pages; preserving order and proper formatting on case pages; and other administrative and related tasks they may be requested to handle by the arbitrators.
Clerks are the unsung heroes of the arbitration process, keeping track of details to ensure that requests are handled in a timely and efficient manner. Clerks get front-line seats to the political and ethnic warfare that scorches Wikipedia periodically, and, since they aren't arbitrators themselves, are rarely threatened with violence by the participants.
Past clerks have gone on to be (or already were) successful lawyers, naval officers, and Presidents of Wikimedia Chapters. The salary and retirement packages for Clerks rival that of Arbitrators, to boot. Best of all, you get a cool fez!
Please email clerks-llists.wikimedia.org if you are interested in becoming a clerk, and a clerk will reply with an acknowledgement of your message and we will get back to you with some questions. If you have any questions you'd like an answer to before applying please feel free to ask on the clerks noticeboard or any current clerk.
For the Arbitration Committee clerks, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 08:23, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
I asked for answers to a question re whether or not there is a Risk in identifying as a woman editor on Wikipedia. It is related to a proposal at the WMF IdeaLab for such a space. I asked that comments questions about the proposal (not about the "Risk" question be taken to the proposal's talk page. Apparently, some people want to comment about the proposal here, so here you go. (I will not re-discuss here, since most of what is brought up here is already on the proposal talk page.) Lightbreather ( talk) 15:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
The best approach is gender-neutral. There's no female Wikipedian or male Wikipedian. We're Wikipedians, period. GoodDay ( talk) 05:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
For women who did not wish to be identified as a woman on Wikipedia generally, LB's proposed safe haven could perhaps indicate that such women could join the haven under a different user name, provided they sent a private message to LB (or whoever) indicating what her normal name was on Wikipedia, and LB (or whoever) was reasonably satisfied that she was genuine, etc. This would not be illegal sockpuppeting as privacy and safety are among the allowed reasons for a second user name. I know this doesn't answer the question of whether it is safe for a woman to self-identify her gender on Wikipedia (nor what exactly 'safe' means in this context), but it just may make those questions somewhat less critical, at least in this specific context. However nothing can ever be 100% safe - for example a woman might unwittingly disclose her normal user name when indicating how she had been bullied and/or by whom, though in the safe haven there'd be a good chance that no misogynist bully noticed her slip-up (that risk might be further reduced if at least some conversations in the haven could not be seen by all Wikipedians, contrary to the current proposal, but perhaps I'm now digressing a bit too far off topic) Tlhslobus ( talk) 06:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
It's not a good idea, to create a WikiProject where membership is restricted. I sincerely suggest that such a route be abandoned. GoodDay ( talk) 01:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
-- Djembayz ( talk) 05:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
To actually respond to Djem and Light (I know, crazy, huh?), I don't get the impression that female editors are at risk of harassment from Wikipedia editors, except for vandals and spammers. Usually the worst of the worst that comes to Arbcom is POV pushing, foul language, and generally uncivil behavior. On-wiki harassment is not common and off-wiki harassment is quite rare. However, truly knowing the answer to this question would require input from people who access non-public information Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 21:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Many of you male co-editors must edit in an entire different WP Universe - I can spot typical male passive-aggressive behavior on a daily basis (including in my own edits). I don't get it why so many editors get their boxers in a bunch over a few women claiming a tiny little space for themselves. (It's hilarious to watch though) ChristopheT ( talk) 09:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
The proposal sets a dangerous precedent and is contrary to overarching WMF guidelines re: equality etc, as Voceditenore suggests. The trial Kaffeeklatsch thing should be sent to WP:MFD on those grounds. The issue of safety for women (however you define it) seems to ignore the obvious, ie: no-one can be guaranteed to be safe. In the context of Wikipedia, plenty of men face issues that are just the same as those faced by women. In my specific case, I've had Wikipedia-related safety issues so severe of late that WMF have been taking an interest and I had to move house etc on the advice of the UK Special Branch (anti-terrorist police). If you want ensure your safety then don't edit; if you want merely to reduce the risk, don't ghettoise yourself by identifying with anything and don't edit in areas that have even a potential for controversy. Alas, since even the Monty Hall problem and Dressing gown have been know to generate a phenomenal amount of heat, the "don't edit in areas" bit is itself problematic. Certainly, you'd need to steer clear of religious and ethnic topics, anything to do with sexuality and anything to do with public policy or politics. If you're worried about safety and want to continue here but have already fallen into the trap of identifying yourself then follow WP:CLEANSTART to the letter. - Sitush ( talk) 12:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
While in light of what happened in Gamergate (the actual controversy, not the article) and our need to attract and retain female editors I'm inclined to be in favor of this suggestion, at the same time I have to acknowledge that the community has historically been skeptical and, eventually, aggressively opposed to projects which have limited membership: see Esperanza which was formed for similarly benign purposes (and reading the MFD discussion which ended Esperanza is particularly enlightening in regard to the perceived faults which are relevant here) and to a similar but lesser extent, Association of Members' Advocates. If this goes forward, its members are going to have to relentlessly patrol and monitor its activities to avoid the mere appearance of canvassing, suspicious offline activities, or undue advocacy of a type which might not be seen by all — including the male hegemony here — as being in the best interest of the encyclopedia. I'm not sure that it can achieve its purpose with those limitations, but I'm willing to at least see it tried. (With one final reluctance: when something like this fails, the organizers/leaders have a tendency to become disheartened and leave the community. Since I'm afraid that this project may be moribund from birth, I'd hate to lose good female editors due to the failure of this project.) Regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 16:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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01:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)In the spirit of providing general background information:
Today I was using Wikipedia and noticed typographical errors existing on several article pages, including a category that does not exist and blank space before an article introduction. I have fixed what I can, but I have a feeling that minor issues such as these are widespread and may be occurring throughout Wikipedia. This spoils my experience, and I do not intend to continue using Wikipedia until I find that such problems are fully resolved. I really enjoy Wikipedia, so I hope that in the future, editors will see to it that such errors are fixed as soon as they are noticed. Thank you. 104.207.136.27 ( talk) 14:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
I sincerely hope this was trolling on 104.207's part. If not, I'm sorry to say that wikipedia will never be free of the typographical and other errors that have so distressed 104.207, and he or she would be very well advised to give us a very wide berth indeed. I for one am desolate that my hundreds or thousands of hours of unpaid work has not yielded a product acceptable to 104.207, and I certainly resolve to try harder in future. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 00:08, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
This is a whole bunch of questions:
Degrees-achieved have been added (by possibly one editor contributions, contributions) to articles' Infoboxes, including Infobox:Judge, Infobox:Vice President, and Infobox:Officeholder. The degrees-achieved have then been removed with edit summaries saying something along the lines of "degrees and fields of study go in the |education= field". I can't find a guideline stating that such is the case but Wikipedia is a big place so maybe I've missed something. Would appreciate some guidance on this issue, not sure what the procedure should be going forward.
If this is in the wrong place, sorry, I couldn't figure out where I should post this query - please post here where it should go. Thanks, Shearonink ( talk) 20:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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, or if they prefer separate lines for every little detail, then that's fine. The interested people just need to talk it over and write down their decision.
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22:47, 25 January 2015 (UTC)Hi all
I’m looking for feedback and endorsement for my Wikimedia Foundation PEG grant to be Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO. I’d very much appreciate if you would have a look, the most relevant objectives to Wikipedia are:
I ran a pilot project that resulted in the images found in the Wikimedia Commons category Images from the archive of UNESCO, here are a few examples:
If you think this is a worthwhile project please click this link and then click the endorse button.
Many thanks
Mrjohncummings ( talk) 21:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
The following message was left on my user talk page. The editor wished for it to be "forwarded" and since this is the closest thing we have to an open forum about general wiki issues, I'm copying it here. (The user left it for me, I suspect, because I had interacted with him as the current chairperson of the Mediation Committee.) Regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 22:21, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
READ ABOUT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH POLITICAL BIAS AT WIKIPEDIA: http://wikibias.blogspot.com
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WIKIPEDIA: I have a number of recommendations for Wikipedia, if they desire to be a respected and neutral information resource: First, you need to clearly understand how socio-politically monolithic your editors really are. You can start by tracking the selection of your userboxes by your editors. I believe that this simple action will enable you to gain a better understanding of the philosophy of your demographic (it might also help to have one or two pro-business/entrepreneur userboxes too). Second, you must accept and address the fact that the majority of your socio-economic and political articles are being policed not only by paid political operatives, but also loosely-associated activists, who cling together to repel any editor input that is seen as a threat to their narrative. Third, the concept of 'editor consensus' that is the operational cornerstone of your site is horrendously flawed. It may seemingly create a more peaceful editing environment, but the downside of consensus is that it devolves into group-think and hive-mind behavior. It also snuffs-out alternative or contrary perspectives and it leads to frustration, vandalism, and constant edit-warring. Ultimately, those with a different world-view are perniciously rejected ... and ejected (such as my case)... from the process, which further solidifies your problematic singular mindset. Fourth, the mediation process, overlaid by your consensus requirements, is completely useless and should either be modified or removed. Mediation Rule: Prerequisite #5 (Acceptance by a majority of parties) makes it practically impossible for alternative input to survive if challenged editors can shut down mediation by simply opting out of the process, with the net result being that their 'defended' work still stands. Considering this, why would any editor ever accept mediation. Fifth, all of the above four issues revolve around the same problem ... the vast majority of your editors are significantly skewed to the left ... philosophically, socially, and politically. One of the stated goals of Wikipedia is to be 'neutral' and impartial in the presentation of its subject-matter, yet how can this be achieved if its editorship composition, promoted by its consensus and mediation practices, protects a singular world-view? If it truly believes in those stated goals, Wikipedia must make a proactive decision to engage, involve (and at times protect) a broader spectrum of editors. Wikipedia needs to actively facilitate their input, particularly when it comes to contentious topics. This can be achieved by involving Wikipedia administrators (and/or senior editor volunteers) who are sensitive to the issue and more representative of a broader perspective. Their involvement could provide balance in conflict situations such as mine. The worst feeling in the world as a Wiki-editor is fighting an onslaught of editors who do not share your opinion, while those who support you have to anonymously cower in the dark and helplessly watch you take the beating from a distance out of fear of similar intimidation or retribution.
Please forward ... if anyone at Wiki gives a darn.
Wikipedia Editor: Tolinjr-- Tolinjr ( talk) 21:44, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
I recently proposed a women-only space at the WMF IdeaLab. Support has been much better than I expected, but there has also been a lot of opposition.
One problem that has presented itself is how to ensure, as much as is possible, that editors who join the group are women. And that brings me to my question for the broader Wikipedia community:
Is it unsafe for a woman to set her user profile "Internationalisation" preference to "She edits wiki pages" or to add her username to Category:Female Wikipedians?
Or put another way: Do women who "out" themselves as women on Wikipedia using either of the two options mentioned increase their risk for physical or psychological danger on- or off-wiki?
I would very much appreciate this discussion to stay on this question only, and that any other questions or concerns about the proposal be taken to its talk page.
Thanks. -- Lightbreather ( talk) 01:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
@ Lightbreather:It seems like a lot of editors think you're talking about who can be in the women's group, which was not my impression at all. Could you please clarify your intent on this conversation? Are all the comments above off-topic? Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 05:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
I thought I was addressing your question in my reply which has now been hived off to another section. So here's the short answer: The more information you reveal about yourself on Wikipedia (and on the internet in general), the less "safe" you are. That includes, but is not limited to, your gender. Simply signing on to an explicitly women-only project reveals your gender, but at least it's currently in a relatively obscure place. Requiring anyone who participates to additionally reveal their gender on their user page and add themselves to Category:Female Wikipedians, increases the risk a lot more. My main point is/was: Why put your members in that position, when it offers absolutely no additional protection from people posing as women with the intent to deceive? If you want your members to be as safe as possible, my advice would be to drop requirements 2 and 3 and add WP:NOINDEX to the Kaffeeklatsch pages. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:30, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
You are at equal risk, in my opinion. Everyone here can get enemies and threats. The more you reveal, the more specific the type of threat. The severity is not much different. Males get called paedophiles, and females get rape threats. Both are subject to death threats. These slanders and threats can easily cross into the real world - to work, friends, and home. Most stalkers who do these threats get banned and continue the threats anyway, however most editors are not like this. Most will not care about your gender nor threaten you. Any of the general gender-neutral advice about revealing identity would be relevant here. -- zzuuzz (talk) 16:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Bear with me, this comment starts out on a bit of a dark note. I think that the risk from identifying oneself as female in this space (i.e. Wikipedia) is no greater or less than the risk from identifying oneself as female in any online space (i.e. anywhere else on the internet, generally). Any person can be a user here by default and can be as anonymous as they want to be; it is only users who have proven themselves unsuitable members of the community who have been expelled from it. The nature of this community is that some users will occasionally disagree with other users, and there are unfortunately users among us who will use whatever information they can find to try to "win" a dispute by intimidating their "opponent" into submission. This is forbidden by policy and users who do these things are swiftly ejected, but we can't control what people do off-wiki. We know that there are (hopefully rarely) individuals whose personal beliefs or even mental illnesses make them dangerous in real life to people whose identities are available online, and I do believe that females are more exposed to this sort of risk (though I wish it weren't so). I believe that the assessment of that risk is up to the individual. But I do think that you can create a "safe" space on Wikipedia, even without requiring a user to reveal their gender to join, if you are quick to expel users who are disruptive, and perhaps you can recruit some vigilant administrators to assist in that effort. It is also possible to use WP:EMERGENCY to contact law enforcement if there appears to be an off-wiki threat. I do think that the benefits of that safe space outweigh the risks of being part of it, and I also think that the Wikipedia community will be better for your effort. Ivanvector ( talk) 21:09, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
There's been a minor proliferation of edit tags lately and I feel that it's kind of getting out of hand. We discussed recently about the two "mobile app edit" and "mobile edit" tags which almost always redundantly appear together, and now there's a new "canned edit summary" tag, which triggers via edit summaries like typo and fixed grammar. My watchlist is now seriously dense, with walls of edit tags. The useful stuff I like to scan (size of edit, actual edit summary) is quickly getting dwarfed by the stuff that is not useful at all, such as the aforementioned tags. I think it's weird that some visual changes to the watchlist, like the whole blue/green dot thing a while ago, gets tons of discussion and debate while many edit tags, which demonstrably decrease the readability of my watchlist without providing any added value, are implemented without discussion and with no transparency for most editors. (Yes, I understand why transparency is bad in some cases... but must I pass RfA just to discuss what goes into my watchlist?)
Why was the "canned edit summary" tag implemented, and what problem is it supposed to solve? Is it to help look out for sneaky vandalism? Believe me, anyone who watches vandalism for more than a week figures out the very small set of canned edit summaries used for sneaky vandalism and doesn't need an edit tag to point them out. And anyone who hasn't watched vandalism for more than a week wouldn't understand what the edit tag is telling them anyway.
This is not to say that edit tags aren't useful. Some are tremendously useful. Others are not, and lately those are the ones that appear with irritating frequency. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 05:50, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
BTW, if you're not familiar, the mobile app, after making an edit, will then ask how you changed the page, and it gives several default options, since typing on mobile is a hassle. "Canned edit summary" is what results when a user chooses one of these options. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 18:27, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
People keep using "notability" in terms of removing portion of content. Shouldn't people use "prevalence" or "important" instead? Also, in titling discussions, they discussed whatever follows the sources without knowing how to connect to general readers. They vote for one title that doesn't fit readers' needs instead of another title that does. Why is that? -- George Ho ( talk) 03:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
@ George Ho: "Notability" is a noun (so is "prevalance"), while "notable" is an adjective (so is "important"). "Notability" may be used more frequently when people are thinking about Wikipedia's notability guideline. While it would be great if everyone used the correct form of speech in every discussion and edit summary, I believe that civility and proper application of the guideline are more important. GoingBatty ( talk) 03:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
@ George Ho: Could you please provide some examples? Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 03:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Interesting that you bring up ROC and PRC for "titles meeting reader's needs". Most of our readers don't have strong opinions about the imaginary dispute the two countries have (there's been no war or demands, just the little official maps they prepare). The vast majority of our readers aren't aware that both countries claim the other's territory. People see news reports, history books, product labels and everything else that say "Taiwan" and "China". "Republic of China" and "People's Republic of China" are political statements, not accurately descriptive names. Republic of China is really "Taiwan", so the official political-statement name is confusing to most of our readers, and doesn't serve their needs. Taiwan and China are titles that do. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 17:18, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I found another example, Pink (singer) vs "P!nk". I ended up typing "P!ink" instead; at least I corrected myself once. Anyway, how does "P!ink"/"P!nk" help readers more than "Pink (singer)"? -- George Ho ( talk) 06:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I help to organise meetups of Wikimedians in the north of England. It tends to be the usual group of people who attend – mostly experienced Wikimedians, and that's all well and good, but one of the aims of the meetups is to raise awareness of Wikipedia and to get new or unconfident editors to contribute more. It is rare for new or beginner editors to attend, and I think one of the reasons for this is that they just don't know about the events. However, they're a key target audience.
The events are advertised on Watchlist pages with a geonotice, but of course if you rarely look at your Watchlist, or if you don't have one at all, then you won't see it. Word of mouth advertising only goes so far.
Would it be possible to promote meetups and other events in a more prominent place, such as on the Wikipedia Main Page? I wouldn't expect a big banner like the Watchlist geonotice, but maybe there could be a link to an "Upcoming events" article somewhere on the page.
Note that these meetups are usually informal events held in pubs. A wider promotion campaign involving press, radio, etc. probably wouldn't be appropriate for these pub meetups; that approach would be more suitable for formal training or awareness-raising events. We don't want to be overwhelmed with newbies, but having two or three turn up would be a very good thing, hence my suggestion of a more prominent on-Wiki notice. Thanks,
Bazonka (
talk)
20:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Wikimedia Nederland welcomes interested Wikimedians and GLAM enthusiasts to join us at the
GLAM-WIKI 2015 conference, from 9 - 12 April 2015 in The Hague, The Netherlands. The
call for proposals and application for
scholarships are now open!
Ter-burg (
talk)
15:03, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Should the lead section of the article on actress Rosamund Pike state the genre of the films she has appeared in, as set out in a WP:RS? The RfC is here OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 01:26, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Alejandro González Iñárritu (born August 15, 1963) is a Mexican film director, famous for films like Babel. I welcome your input on whether you think the genres of his films are pertinent to mention in the lead of the director's article. The RfC can be viewed here. OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 00:03, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
AltMetrics are now including Wikipedia citations in their scoring. I'm quoted in their announcement. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:45, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Dear wikipedians,
I would love to receive constructive criticism on your part on my project to improve it.
This project is somehow a WW suggestion box where people grouped around ideas to start projects. The goal is that one day the site receives great ideas (from teenagers to elders, from the whole planet) and that, some beautiful projects see the day...
For those who want to participate in libreidea here's a todo list and a chan libreidea on freenode
I count on you Wikipedians to talk to your loved ones and your network.
Thanks for your help and do not forget if you have good ideas, the reflex is libreidea!
-- Vev ( talk) 20:41, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Dear all, the Wikimedia Foundation Scholarships Program is still offering a limited number of scholarships to offset the cost of selected individuals' attendance at Wikimania using funding provided by the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF). The deadline to apply is very near, please send your applications. -- ProtoplasmaKid ( talk) 02:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello everyone. The GLAM project has had a successful impact in Spain, being remarkable the work of Amical with numerous institutions in Catalonia. After emailing several institutions, three museums of Madrid, under the Ministry of Culture (Museo del Romanticismo, Museo del Traje and Museo Arqueológico Nacional), have shown interest in developing the Wikipedist-in-Residence initiative, by which various activities of diffusion, training and liberalization and improvement of content related to these museums will take place. As first collaboration with the Ministry, it would be a starting point and possibly serve to encourage other museums or institutions to collaborate with the Wikimedia movement. To start the project I applied for a grant to the Wikimedia Foundation, that you can see here, to evaluate and support it if it seems interesting. Thank you very much. -- Rodelar ( talk) 14:20, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Have you seen this? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/24/wikipedia-declares-war-on-women-gives-anti-feminist-males-control-over-gender-and-sexuality-entries/
I'm disgusted with Wikipedia and will be spreading the word that it is NOT factual, and a terrible source of information. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.24.66 ( talk) 14:26, 31 January 2015
A user called User:WMFOffice (with all the hallmarks of an SPA, and sock, I.E. detailed knowledge of Wikipedia policies and personalities, but only a handful of edits, none in article space) has posted to Russavia's user page (and one or two others) saying that they have been in contravention of WMF's terms of service, thus implying they have been harassing other users. There is no evidence supplied for these negative claims about (we hope) living people, contrary to WP:BLP requirements that any such claim be immaculately sourced.
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 22:37, 5 February 2015 (UTC).
In article Emmylou Harris appearances - listing "appearances that Emmylou Harris has contributed to" - I find the song named "Going back to Harlan" listed as her own song (according to column 2, Songwriter). But in the article about Emmylou I find this quote: Wrecking Ball, produced by Daniel Lanois (...), an experimental album for Harris, the record included (...) Kate and Anna McGarrigle's "Goin' Back to Harlan".
So I haven't found the answers I was looking for: Who wrote the song? It's not easy to search the net, as other sites disagree just as much, picking randomly one for the other. My other question, not as easy to find an answer to: No matter who wrote the song, where is this Harlan? I have actually been to Harlan, KY and found it a nice place, but of course there are far more than one Harlan. Does any of those Harlans relate to either Harris or the McGarrigles? TorSch ( talk) 18:25, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I am an academic working at Politecnico di Milano, in Italy. I would like to get in touch with regular contributor(s) to Wikipedia based around here, to discuss a possible project involving our PhD students. many thanks. -- Gmrozz ( talk) 11:40, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
I just discovered there is an R&B artist known as Bobby Brown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Brown There is no reference to the famous "Frank Zappa"-song of the same name. Could anybody in the know create one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.252.163.159 ( talk) 10:41, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello,
There's an RfC on the Brian Williams talk page you might be interested in Here. Thanks, SW3 5DL ( talk) 05:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Why people use {{ double dagger}} in the article of 67th Academy Awards#Winners and nominees#Awards rather than other signs?-- 淺藍雪 ❉ 22:30, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
It's possible that Desire Dondeyne died. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 16:21, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
When an editor tags a non-free image for being oversize, Wikipedia uses a bot to automatically downsize the image. I question its use at Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Requests_for_approval#Request_for_re-examination_Wikipedia:Bots.2FRequests_for_approval.2FTheo.27s_Little_Bot.2C_Task_1. I've never dropped into bot approvals before, so I don't know how much traffic it gets, hence this note. - hahnch e n 22:23, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello
The c:Commons:Wiki Loves Africa photographic contest is reaching its end and the jury has decided the first three winners: c:Wiki Loves Africa 2014/Winners
We wish to add a fourth prize that will be voted by the community. A selection of 20 images (the best of the selection by jury, from n°4 till n°23) is proposed here : c:Wiki Loves Africa 2014/Community Prize Selection. Please cast your vote ! (only one vote per person please) Anthere ( talk)
Moved to Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea lab)#General_opinion_on_physically_restricting_access_to_the_New_Pages_Feed. -- Biblio worm 20:34, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Boy, AnomieBOT is sure bringing back memories as it pops old discussions up on my watchlist... :-) -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:14, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Dear all, the Wikimedia Foundation Scholarships Program is still offering a limited number of scholarships to offset the cost of selected individuals' attendance at Wikimania using funding provided by the Wikimedia Foundation. You have less than three days to apply! Please send your applications. -- ProtoplasmaKid ( talk) 06:20, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Should Ranger 8 be italicized? It is the name of something, but it is not a title. This could come up in many articles. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:59, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
{{
italic title}}
was added less than an hour before
Bubba73 raised this thread. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
12:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
"Should Ranger 8 be italicized? It is the name of something, but it is not a title.". This proceeds from the false assumption that only titles of works are italicized, and it questions the italicization of Ranger 8 on the basis that the name isn't a title. (It's comparable to asking "Why is 'New York' capitalized, when it isn't a person?", on the assumption that only people's names are capitalized.) We then moved past the question, with the real rationale for the italicization, and clearly distinguished vessel names like Ranger 8 from mission names like Apollo 11, which featured two vessels, the names of which are italicized. The question could come up about how to write about Ranger 8 as a mission – as a NASA operation – rather than as a spacecraft. In that case, the least confusing result would be to refer to it as "the Ranger 8 mission", just as we might refer to "the voyage of The Beagle" or "The Mayflower landing". No one's actually asked that question, and there doesn't seem to be a dispute about it, much less one that couldn't be resolved on the article talk page, or raised more generally at an MOS talk page. There doesn't seem to be a site-wide issue here requiring VP attention. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 13:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Ranger 8 has been notified of this discussion, as have WT:WikiProject Spaceflight and WT:MOSTEXT. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 16:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Opinions of neutral uninvolved eds eagerly sought on this important topic at Talk:Streisand_effect#RfC:_Is_the_Streisand_Effect_defined_by_usage.3F_Should_wp_include_Charlie_Hebdo.3F
Hopefully, once folk actually read and engage with the proposed material and reasons for its inclusion, the problem should be easily resolved. Meanwhile, an unusual combination of circumstances resulted in me looking quite trollish, so some uninvested perspective would be very welcome.
Plus I suspect there could be lessons to be learnt here re declining numbers of wp editors. GreenPeasAndPotatoes ( talk) 07:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
I am trying to find out about Pichincha, Ecuador. According to http://www.altillo.com/en/universities/universities_ecuador.asp, there are over twenty universities there. Yet,
Pichincha,_Ecuador is a tiny article about Guayaquil.
When I go to Pichincha Province, I get a page with no mention of such a city or town and with dead links Google maps shows it as a small locale just outside of Quito.
Kdammers ( talk) 10:59, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
How can the game theory be applied to model wikiedits to articles and wikidialogues in talk pages?-- 5.15.42.38 ( talk) 11:03, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Note that Luigi Arienti has died acording to italian wikipedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 14:42, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I just found out that the article American craft had credited a book written by Michael Monroe as a source. Now the link Michael Monroe goes to a Finnish rock/punk musician, real name Matti Fagerholm, who is best known by his artist name Michael Monroe. I very seriously doubt he would ever have written a book about American craft, that must have been some American writer whose real name is Michael Monroe.
The thing is, the article American craft had been this way ever since it was created, for almost nine years. Right at the beginning, or any time since, its original author could have actually clicked the wikilink and seen that he/she had the wrong Michael Monroe. But no, he/she did not, and neither did anyone else.
I finally removed the wikilink from the author's name. I would have done it sooner, but I didn't know the article American craft existed. I only found it by using the "What links here" tool for Michael Monroe.
I myself often click on every not completely obvious blue wikilink in articles I have created, or that appear in edits I have made, just to be sure I have got the right targets. Not immediately, but usually within weeks or months. I don't just leave them entirely unchecked for almost a decade.
Why can't people be more accurate in checking their wikilinks? JIP | Talk 20:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
I can't figure out how to add geocoordinate data. I have lat=45.8104911, long=13.4287543, but when I try to fill in a template copied from another article I get error messages. Thanks, EChastain ( talk) 21:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
{{
Infobox River}}
, and the documentation for that shows that two pairs of coordinates may be used: if your coordinates are those of the river's origin (which may be a source or confluence), use |origin_lat_d=45.8105
|origin_long_d=13.4287
but if they are the river's mouth (which again may be a confluence), use |mouth_lat_d=45.8105
|mouth_long_d=13.4287
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
22:00, 23 February 2015 (UTC)The workaround described here with getting un watermarked images from a certain site [ex. [7] ]. I can't seem to get this to work anymore...is there something I'm doing wrong, or have browser updates since then made it impossible to do? Connormah ( talk) 08:24, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Most editors who participate on user talk pages have seen ( talk page stalker) used to preface comments. Based on concerns listed at Template talk:Talk page stalker I've created a new Template:Talk page watcher which produces ( talk page watcher). Please comment if you wish. -- NeilN talk to me 15:46, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello
The c:Commons:Wiki Loves Africa photographic contest is reaching its end and the jury has decided the first three winners: c:Wiki Loves Africa 2014/Winners
We wish to add a fourth prize that will be voted by the community. A selection of 20 images (the best of the selection by jury, from n°4 till n°23) is proposed here : c:Wiki Loves Africa 2014/Community Prize Selection. Please cast your vote ! (only one vote per person please) Anthere ( talk)
I received the following e-mail (lightly redacted):
Get to voting! — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 20:40, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
is being run again in March - see Wikipedia:The Core Contest for details. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 11:20, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
What is going on with all the changes being made in articles (and their titles) by adding accents and tildes to proper names? Wikipedia guidelines are pretty clear on this. See Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English)#Modified_letters. It is very annoying to me as a copy editor to see these mistakes in spelling: I am always impelled to dive in and correct them, and that is just a waste of time. In some instances I have had to ask an administrator for help in renaming (moving) an entire page to one with the correct spelling. I hope the people reading this can find a solution to this (apparent) wave of name changes. Thank you. GeorgeLouis ( talk) 18:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
I have made an RfC [8] at the talk page [9] of the Morisco article.
Should the last paragraph in the "Expulsion" section of the article state as accomplished fact that Moriscos were mostly not descendants of Arab settlers, but overwhelmingly the descendants of native Iberians who converted to Islam?
A couple of editors insist that this statement be left as it is: "Contrary to popular belief, the Moriscos were for the most part not descendants of Arab settlers, but instead were overwhelmingly the descendants of Muladis, native Iberians who converted to Islam under Muslim rule, and were as ethnically Iberian as the Christians who expelled them." The only supporting source given is a documentary on the British Channel 4. They allow qualifying information to be appended, but revert any attempt to rephrase the declarative statement so that it doesn't represent this as an objective fact, as the article's history will show. Carlstak ( talk) 05:21, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
This is a rush request for a kind editor to take a staged photo to help save Wikipedia a ton of resources.
It would put an end to two months, approaching 20k words, and many hours of observer reads, over a disputed lead image at Age disparity in sexual relationships. (It is gone now, but in the last stable version, so will return. It is a picture of a marriage -- not ideal.)
Image needed: Ideal would be a man and woman, very obvious age difference, waist up, (fake) kissing, clothes on of course, holding hands (they show age well) visible at shoulder level, so the focus of the image would be heads and hands.
Please, anyone with a camera and willing, appropriate people in the room, take the photo and upload it here.
Many thanks,
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 02:33, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Cranach is a good start. commons:Category:The unlikely couples by Lucas Cranach (I) -- Atlasowa ( talk) 19:00, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
If someone does choose to make a photograph for this, then please be very careful about privacy and personality rights. It may be easy to get a picture of Grandma and her grandson, but putting it in a context that implies they have a sexual relationship is libel.
See Wikipedia:Image use policy#Privacy rights for our policy and for links to the relevant policies at Commons and the WMF Board resolution. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 19:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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Is it just me, or does anyone else feel the opposite of WP:OWN? Whenever I create or edit an article, I feel the need for someone else to edit the article afterwards. Preferably keeping my changes in or editing them, and adding their own changes. Not simply reverting my changes. I am usually very much disappointed to see articles that I have last edited stay unchanged for months or years. JIP | Talk 21:49, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Suppose I were to create an article that was a list of every joke in the repertoire of some comedian. This might be from a live performance or it might be from a published book. Suppose I change the wording enough to avoid close paraphrase, but still the article is just as funny as reading the book or attending the show, in a matter that is not educational and that diminishes the value of the comedian's work. Note that this is different from spoilers, because reading spoilers isn't as interesting as reading or viewing the original work. Wouldn't that be a copyright violation of some kind? Do we have policy or precedents where this has come up before? I see in this article [11] something that comes close. Geogene ( talk) 01:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Suppose I change the wording enough to avoid close paraphrase. I'm skeptical that you could still rightfully call those jokes the comedian's at that point. -- Izno ( talk) 01:08, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
a
red linked firm at
List of architecture firms, which does not allow
any red links. I removed it.
They reposted it, I undid it again.
If they post again and I undo again, am I in violation of some 3 revert edit warring rule and is the while weight of the wikilaw ?
Carptrash (
talk)
14:24, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
My Royal Society of Chemistry colleagues and I propose to update citations to The Merck Index. As there may be CoI concerns, please review the proposal, and comment, at Wikipedia:GLAM/Royal Society of Chemistry/Merck. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:01, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Please connect the article Rodion Nakhapetov to the russian one. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 17:52, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Are Wikipedia users allowed to use their user pages and signatures to promote their religious beliefs? 217.44.208.143 ( talk) 22:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
I accidentally run into this super-aggregator of encyclopedias when loooking into Stevens County, Washington: the WHE page looks like a complete rip-off of ours. Two problems:
What is the best venue in wikipedia to discuss the issue? Staszek Lem ( talk) 20:49, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
For quite some while have I encountered that my search engine, Google, comes up with the usual variety of websites to a keyed in search but will not allow me to go any further than Wikipedia. It is Wikipedia, only, that immediately opens up upon my command; almost every other website opens up delayed by ten to twenty minutes. I have been wondering if this means that a virus is in my Wikipedia or if it means that someone wants my browsing activity to be dominated by Wikipedia and has therefore blocked almost all other sites, which would be censorship, not of Wikipedia but censorship for the promotion of Wikipedia. If this were the case, has anybody ever heard of anything like it? What kind of profile would be established or assumed by a browsing history of almost exclusively Wikipedia? Cornelia T. Bradford — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3299:C080:B59E:27F7:4094:A29F ( talk) 00:37, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Big Brother 8 (Albania)#Housemates section is in Albanian, but I do not know how to tag this article or section for foreign language text. Please provide help.-- DThomsen8 ( talk) 18:14, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
{{
notenglish|section|date=March 2015}}
. You could also list it at
WP:PNT; see also
WP:RFT. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)Journalists have found that the New York City Police Department had close to 100 IP addresses which made questionable edits to articles that covered cases where the NYPD was involved, that seemed intended to mislead the wikipedia's readers.
Computer users identified by Capital as working on the NYPD headquarters' network have edited and attempted to delete Wikipedia entries for several well-known victims of police altercations, including entries for Eric Garner, Sean Bell, and Amadou Diallo. Capital identified 85 NYPD addresses that have edited Wikipedia, although it is unclear how many users were involved, as computers on the NYPD network can operate on the department's range of IP addresses.
To what extent should the documented efforts of NYPD IP addresses to edit the articles on Eric Garner, Sean Bell and Amadou Diallo contain coverage of elements of the NYPD attempting to subvert the wikipedia's integrity?
Question: What advice should we give to off-duty NYPD officers, who want to edit articles that cover accusation of abuse by other NYPD officers? Should their user page out them as an NYPD officer? Should they be told they need to read WP:COI prior to editing any article that touches on the NYPD?
These articles should probably be locked so only registered contributors can contribute to them. Geo Swan ( talk) 18:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Revision as of 18:19, 11 August 2009 146.244.138.85 "conceptual learning, or synthesizing ability, occurs with significantly greater frequency in whites than in blacks. He suggested that from the data, one might conclude that on average, white Americans are more intelligent than African-Americans.ref http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g2699/is_0001/ai_2699000187 Encyclopedia of Psychology ref"
Revision as of 16:01, 12 August 2009 69.112.3.52 "conceptual learning, or synthesizing ability, occurs with significantly greater frequency in Asians than in whites. He suggested that from the data, one might conclude that on average, Asian Americans are more intelligent than white Americans.<ref http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g2699/is_0001/ai_2699000187 Encyclopedia of Psychology ref"
single contrib by 69.112.3.52 reference is now a dead link.
Five and a half years, is that a record? And what race might you be, 69? GangofOne ( talk) 02:05, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
|quote=
parameter of the cite templates so people know exactly what text is being quoted. If the vandal only changes the text in one spot, the mismatch is a clue that something is amiss.
Jason Quinn (
talk)
08:49, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Amanda Marcotte, reporting in Slate magazine described on-going controversy in wikipedia's coverage of the Gamergate controversy. In her account anti-feminist vandals, in violation of various policies, unfairly used the wikipedia to attack feminist critics of computer games -- and, in its ruling, the arbitration committee applied sanctions to both the vandals and certain vandal fighters.
After agreeing that, eventually, the work of the POV-pushing vandals was undone, she concluded:
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I think Marcotte's criticism deserves attention. I have personally been harassed by very persistent uncivil POV-pushing edit-warriors, who were eventually blocked for policy violations. When the most persistent of these POV vandals was eventually indefinitely blocked, so was a good contributor, who had merely been trying to undo the vandal's policy violations. Geo Swan ( talk) 19:08, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Please read the Ordered to Die-article. It reads: "Edward Erickson has produced the first fully researched account of the Ottoman army in the First World War. There simply has not been a similar complete account, apart from an earlier work in French... uniquely different from previous publications...very systematic, and unlike previous publications..."
In short, my WP:PEACOCK-alert went off.Can somebody have a look at it? Jeff5102 ( talk) 07:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
I have Add a "Sandbox" link to the personal toolbar area enabled in my preferences, yet I no longer see a Sandbox link in my personal toolbar. Does anybody know what might have happened? Praemonitus ( talk) 04:16, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Buk_missile_system#20.03.2015_Netherlands_officially_denied_media_reports.
(cur | prev) 06:18, 22 March 2015 Volunteer Marek (talk | contribs) . . (80,989 bytes) (-508) . . (no they didn't. Get your news from a real source not one which makes up crap. Yawwwwwnnnnnn.) (undo)
the administrator does not accept the fact. it uses the media information (03,03,15) but removes media refutation (20,03,15). this a forgery + lie.
I ask you to indicate the correct path for /info/en/?search=Talk I do not know the correct+formal procedure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.119.233.107 ( talk) 14:07, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
A couple months ago, I wrote Verifiability, and truth in my user space. I'm considering moving it into the WP namespace, but I'm not sure about whether or not it's ready for that in terms of content and quality. I'd like if a few other editors might take a look and offer their opinions on whether or not it's ready for the move, and what might need to be done before moving it over. Thanks! // coldacid ( talk| contrib) 18:59, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I am busy reviving a previously deleted article on NL Wikipedia on High Icelandic. Here its a redirect, but it exists as real articles on a lot of other Wikipedia's, even Icelandic. It has a history of spamming. I have the impression that due to the fact this article exists on Wikipedia, the constructed language from the 1990s still remains a bit alive. Almost all websites about it have disappeared. Is there a scientific evidence, that Wikipedia itself creates a new sort of "truth". And could this language be a sign of this? Could you provide any sources of this happening in more cases? Pieter1 ( talk) 12:59, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Is any website tried to simulate erosion against itself in purpose for more natural experience? 87.92.40.213 ( talk) 14:55, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm representing a team of researchers from Drexel University who are researching privacy practices among Wikipedia editors. If you have ever thought about your privacy when editing Wikipedia or taken steps to protect your privacy when you edit, we’d like to learn from you about it.
The study is titled “Privacy, Anonymity, and Peer Production.” Details can be found on meta where the project was discussed before beginning recruitment here: ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_Peer_Production).
If you would like to help us out, you need to read and complete the online consent form linked here and we will get in contact with you: http://andreaforte.net/wp.html.
We are planning to conduct interviews that will last anywhere from 30-90 minutes (depending on how much you have to say) by phone or Skype and we can offer you $20 for your time, but you do not need to accept payment to participate.
I have been researching Wikipedia since 2004 and have conducted many studies, most of which have resulted in papers that you can find here: http://andreaforte.net
Thanks for considering it, please contact me if you have questions!
-- Andicat ( talk) 16:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC) (Andrea Forte, aforte@drexel.edu)
How would I reach out to someone from the Wikimedia Foundation about if neglecting to put a specific word in an article title's disambiguator has the potential to result in a lawsuit against the foundation? I mean, my concern might not be an issue at all in the foundation's eyes, but I'm not sure. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:18, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm trying to figure out whether there's any reason why the new article Vatnik (slang) is out of place here. It's a transcription into English of a word that isn't used in English, only in Russian and Ukrainian. Even if someone wrote an article about a comparable English word that went beyond being a dictionary definition and warranted inclusion, it seems odd to me that foreign words unknown to the English-speaking world would have a presence even if they go beyond a definition. I could be entirely wrong but I thought I'd get some feedback on this. —Largo Plazo ( talk) 13:40, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
I can understand that this product has some significance, but it's probably never going to be released. What is the policy on articles for products that don't exist and probably didn't have all that much cultural significance to start with? I imagine parts of this could be merged into other articles (e.g. DJ Hero, since it encountered a legal issue directly concerning that game), but I doubt we need more than that. Still, I'm hesitant to raise an AfD or propose deletion for this article. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 03:14, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
How can I recover or change my password, if I don't have it? Obviously I am logged on now, but I want AWB use, and obviously eventually I will not get in.-- DThomsen8 ( talk) 19:23, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Looking at Wikipedia:Size_of_Wikipedia#The data set and the main article counter, about 100000 new articles got added within the past 48 hours or so. Was this an epic article creation drive, or something else going on there? Dl2000 ( talk) 03:50, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
This global map of the oceans in mid-Pliocene, around 4-4.5 million years ago, and the deviations in water temperature compared with the present, has all present-day coastlines which makes it rather misleading. In a real image of the world at the time, the Panama isthmus would not yet exist, northern Europe and the western Mediterranean would look somewhat different (the Baltic Sea and the North Sea were not around prior to the most recent glaciations, Java and some other SE Asian islands didn't exist prior to around 2 million years ago, India should be stretching a wee bit further south and so on. The map is an original work by a user, built on data from the US Geological Survey, but their site has moved since the graphic was made, meaning it is now difficult to retrieve and check the data it was constructed on and see how old those data are.
I suggest someone should check the file and the data it represents and, at least, add a disclaimer onto the graphic saying that the outlines of coastlines and seas are not all correct. Also, check if there are more maps from the same source by the same user with the same error (it would become graver the further back in time you got, of course). Strausszek ( talk) 06:59, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
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A RFC has been started to gauge the way the page is ordered. To change the Electronic cigarette article, which is about a consumer product, from its present order to one that as Health Effects first. There was a previous RFC that found no consensus for a medical order. Here is a link to the current RFC. AlbinoFerret 21:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure you've been advised to do this a million times, but doesn't it make a lot of sense to increase the size of your "search box?" That's why 99.99% of people come to your webpage, not for "featured articles" or "Did you know's...." And yet it's this tiny box up in the corner. Makes no sense at all. Please, just make this common sense suggestion happen. You should also seriously consider putting it more front and center, rather than stuck in a corner. That really makes no sense either.
Thanks kindly.
JS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.132.83 ( talk) 19:33, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I agree with JS, I'd make the search box 300px wide. I'd also increase font size by 20%. -- NaBUru38 ( talk) 15:35, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
I am not certain in wich forum to put the questions.
I am buzy drawing KML lines to get to calculate the distance from Ferrol tot Bilbao. Ferrol Infiesto 307 km I have come to Infiesto. As I am not even halfway the mentioned distance of 650 km for Ferrol - Bilbao looks real. The problem with the source is that it is looping. fact-index gets its information from Wikipedia. Does someone know the original source? I have tried Google but no luck this far.
How can I make a vectorial map once I have researched the KML lines? There are a lot of details to add such as tunnels and stations. In the past I have drawn lots of maps such as File:Charleroi SNCV-SNCB openstreetmap background.png with Photoshop and layer, but this is labour intensive and not flexible.
Last a railway question: is there a connection between the FEVE lines and the EuskoTren network in Bilbao. My reference books are unclear about this point. In some historic maps there is an connection but not in others. Smiley.toerist ( talk) 21:17, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Is this page actually same as Finnish Wikipedians , " Kahvihuone / Kysy vapaasti"^^^^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.27.99.96 ( talk) 10:01, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
tried — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiman897 ( talk • contribs) 16:40, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure where the appropriate forum for this discussion would be so it landed here. This concerns the use of the "mass message" user right by Technical 13 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Last week I got this message [1] delivered by the mass message bot thing. Note the irony of claiming "heartfelt and warm greetings" followed by an explanation that this is an automated message sent to every single person who has ever made an edit to his talk page. Like ever. I looked at my contribs to talk pages and as far as I can see whatever edit I made there was more than a year ago. If I don't want to receive this message every year for the rest of my life, I have to explicitly opt out of it by removing my name from a list in his userspace. A list that does not appear to be well-maintained as it contains some users who have been blocked or banned for a long time, some of whom would not even have talk page access so they can't remove or archive the message, let alone remove themselves from the list.
Sorry for being a Scrooge, but I do not feel this is an appropriate use of mass messaging. If you want to send out "Season's Greetings" that's fine but it should be personal, not some auto-generated spam list, and I don't feel that I should have to explicitly opt out of something I had no idea I was opting into. Beeblebrox ( talk) 20:34, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm making a subsection here since this thought is associated with Technical 13 and spreading of information, but not with Season Greetings.
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22:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)I keep running into articles that cite http://www.leighrayment.com/, along with super-headings that this is not a reliable resource. Somewhere in the past this source was heavily used, and there appears to be a macro that takes this: "{{Rayment-hc|date=March 2012}}" and turns it into a full citation. So my questions are: 1) can anyone give me that background on this (I'm curious), and 2) what should we do with these articles? These folks are highly unlikely to turn up in a Google search, that's for sure. Thanks, LaMona ( talk) 00:29, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
There is currently a RFC on the Bitcoin article asking if criminal activities should be in the lead. Here is a link Uninvolved editors adding a comment would be helpful. AlbinoFerret 17:28, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
According to this page the following critical articles (of M:List of articles every Wikipedia should have) at less than 10k count as "stubs"
Another 120 are listed as "short".
A Happy New-Year!
Rich
Farmbrough, 18:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC).
Feel free to translate this message in your language!
On January 1 we celebrate Public Domain Day as many works of authors who died 70+ years ago now enter the public domain and can be used freely.
Let us be aware: copyright is temporary. It only lasts during the authors lifetime and 70 years afterwards (in most countries). During those years it is limiting Wikipedia and her sister projects in showing works of art, literature, public art and buildings in countries without freedom of panorama, and more in the articles. But now a new batch is freed from copyrights!
An overview of images and texts that are restored or added to the Wikimedia Commons, are collected on: this page.
Many of these files still need a place in articles. You can help!
You can also help by uploading new files of subjects that are freed of copyrights.
You can also help by tagging all requests for deletion pages with the
category when the file can be restored, which will be/was deleted.
As I follow the log of restored files this week, more images and texts will follow. If still files or texts are missing in the list, let me know or add them yourselves.
A very happy Public Domain Day! Romaine ( talk) 17:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
There are at about 850 pages with the with checksum in the ISBN-13 does not match. I use WP:WPCleaner (by selecting error #73) to spot these and then copy the book's title in Amazon or any other site to find the correct ISBN and fix it. This is time consuming! I need help from the community! Example. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 13:27, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I wonder whether Rich Farmbrough could help us. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 00:06, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
First of all I do not know if this is the correct place to ask this question. If not, I'd appreciate for someone to direct me to the correct location.
Would Earnest Pletch meet the requirements of WP:Notability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stolitsa740 ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
For many years a subfeature of google news -- the google news archive -- was a feature that was extremely useful to serious wikipedia contributors. But then, with no advance notice, the archive feature went away, or seemed to go away, following a cosmetic redesign.
Now google news seems to have google news archive feature again. Google has been aggressive in trying to force me to use an interface customized for Canada. Is it my imagination the archive feature went away? And, if it did, I'd be interested in the opinion of others as to how comparable is this archive feature to the original archive feature? Geo Swan ( talk) 12:51, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Hey. I just wanted to ask if anybody knows what company is copyright owner of Lana Del Rey's Summertime Sadness, because someone illegally used that song in their video and I wanted to let the copyright owners know, but I don't know who they are. Alex discussion ★ 21:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
I've just finished an article intituled m:A Wikimedian ambassador in south of India. If somebody is interested, just click. A nice day to every one. Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Wiki ou eMail 20:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Can you help me to translate fr:Affaire_Typhaine_Taton. It could be a good article for our encyclpedia. Regards. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 09:46, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Talk:9/11_conspiracy_theories#.22Civil_engineering_community.22 Dornicke ( talk) 12:13, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
This is not going to lead to anything productive. Please, take this hatting the right way and either take a Wikibreak, or find something on Wikipedia that is more productive. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:12, 17 January 2015 (UTC) | |||||
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The Speedy deletion of Adam (band) is again another example of why wikipedia needs to be seriously reformed. 750editsstrong ( talk) 22:57, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Deletions_and_editor_retention If deleted see this page: /info/en/?search=User_talk:Thewhitebox#RFC Full text: Studies show, editing on wikipedia is stagnating. I have been an editor off and on wikipedia for 12 years. Wikipedia has become less and less welcoming for new editors because of more and more deletion and speed deletion rules. There is a very negative company culture about new edits here on wikipedia. Editors who encourage deletion of good faith edits are rewarded, editors who fight against this trend are banned or leave in frustration.
Editors, especially new editors, are consistently treated like shit here by a like minded group of editors.
I have come to one sad conclusion: That Jimmy Wales, the founder of this site, is the person most responsible for this trend. He is most responsbile for this site's negative company culture. I believe that it is in the best interest of the long term future of Wikipedia that Jimmy Wales step down. I beleive wikipedia needs a new company culture that is more inclusive and kind. If you have a better idea how to change this trend, something that has never been tried before, I would love to hear it. Thoughts?
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@ 750editsstrong: Ansh666 is not deleting whole sections of the noticeboard. He is simply removing what he thinks is spam, especially because of the incidents surrounding this event. Your contributions are still there, but there is no need to shout or post this everywhere. Also, the data from the experiment is 5 years old. It is time to move on. Drop the stick. -- Orduin ⋠ T⋡ 23:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC) A deletion notice was placed on an article with zero sources, despite the edit page screen telling users multiple times that sources are required. I see no symptom of the downfall of Wikipedia here. It functioned as desired and as designed. -- Golbez ( talk) 23:29, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
I regularly patrol CAT:CSD looking for "bad" A7s and try and decline any ones that don't meet the criteria ( example). However, most do. Additionally, the actual facts and figures at WP:NEWT show that, at least in 2009, NPP was far less "trigger happy" on CSDs than 80%. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:16, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
So an old editor pretending to be a newbie creates a pointless article on a WP:NOTNEWS band, gets the response they wanted, and rushes everywhere to raise a big WP:POINT? Yawn. Reso lute 20:04, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
The root of the problemI think that what's going on here is as follows:
Just to clarify the obsticals a new user must overcome now in order to become a siginficantly constructive editor:
עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:48, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Is it a problem?Re: "The big question is, then, how do we reverse this?"... I'm going to play devil's advocate here... the question assumes that the decline in number of editors is a bad thing that needs to be "reversed"... but is it really? Before we tackle the big question of how to reverse the decline, I think we need to ask the bigger question: do we actually want to reverse the decline (and why)? Has anyone examined the possibility that having fewer editors actually results in a better encyclopedia? Blueboar ( talk) 18:10, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
The forest instead of the treeHere is what happened:
The bottom line is this:
'Concrete Solution':
750editsstrong ( talk) 18:42, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
To whom it may concern: My preceding comment was caught in an edit conflict but I agree with the hatting. If anyone wants to migrate my comment into the hat feel free. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 21:22, 17 January 2015 (UTC) |
Hi folks,
His this type of comment are frequent on English Wikipedia ?
A nice day for every one, Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Wiki ou eMail 00:11, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedians, on 17 January 2015 00:00 (UTC) began with the competition picture of the year in the Commons. Join the contest in the first selection of the best images Wikipedia every year. Do vote for the pictures you like better. If you have an account opened in the Commons to vote before January 1, 2015, and must have at least 75 changes to any wiki project. Good wikis. Uğurkent ( talk) 16:40, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Not sure where else to query about this -- but since WMF employees do lurk here...
Wednesday I received an email from the Foundation that starts: "We are researchers from the Wikimedia Foundation and created this survey to help the Wikimedia Foundation better understand your current experience and inform future software development to address your needs with the editing interface. You are the experts, and we need to hear from you." I read it this morning & since it sounds both interesting & a good use of my time, I decide to take part.
Instructions are "Follow this link to the Survey". Only there is no link to any survey. Or any web page.
I checked the raw text of the email to see if the URL might be there. No luck. The text mentions one email address I could send a message to -- optoutresearch AT wikimedia.org (munged out of habit) -- only I don't want to unsubscribe. And the email came from noreply AT qemailserver.com -- which suggests that email account is not read by any human.
So what's the story? Another screwup by the Foundation, or just another phishing/spam exploit? (And if there is a real survey of Wikipedians, yes I would be interested in participating.) -- llywrch ( talk) 17:35, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee clerk team is currently looking for a few dependable and mature editors (adminship not needed) willing to serve as clerks. The responsibilities of clerks include opening and closing arbitration cases and motions; notifying parties of cases, decisions, and other committee actions; maintaining the requests for Arbitration pages; preserving order and proper formatting on case pages; and other administrative and related tasks they may be requested to handle by the arbitrators.
Clerks are the unsung heroes of the arbitration process, keeping track of details to ensure that requests are handled in a timely and efficient manner. Clerks get front-line seats to the political and ethnic warfare that scorches Wikipedia periodically, and, since they aren't arbitrators themselves, are rarely threatened with violence by the participants.
Past clerks have gone on to be (or already were) successful lawyers, naval officers, and Presidents of Wikimedia Chapters. The salary and retirement packages for Clerks rival that of Arbitrators, to boot. Best of all, you get a cool fez!
Please email clerks-llists.wikimedia.org if you are interested in becoming a clerk, and a clerk will reply with an acknowledgement of your message and we will get back to you with some questions. If you have any questions you'd like an answer to before applying please feel free to ask on the clerks noticeboard or any current clerk.
For the Arbitration Committee clerks, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 08:23, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
I asked for answers to a question re whether or not there is a Risk in identifying as a woman editor on Wikipedia. It is related to a proposal at the WMF IdeaLab for such a space. I asked that comments questions about the proposal (not about the "Risk" question be taken to the proposal's talk page. Apparently, some people want to comment about the proposal here, so here you go. (I will not re-discuss here, since most of what is brought up here is already on the proposal talk page.) Lightbreather ( talk) 15:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
The best approach is gender-neutral. There's no female Wikipedian or male Wikipedian. We're Wikipedians, period. GoodDay ( talk) 05:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
For women who did not wish to be identified as a woman on Wikipedia generally, LB's proposed safe haven could perhaps indicate that such women could join the haven under a different user name, provided they sent a private message to LB (or whoever) indicating what her normal name was on Wikipedia, and LB (or whoever) was reasonably satisfied that she was genuine, etc. This would not be illegal sockpuppeting as privacy and safety are among the allowed reasons for a second user name. I know this doesn't answer the question of whether it is safe for a woman to self-identify her gender on Wikipedia (nor what exactly 'safe' means in this context), but it just may make those questions somewhat less critical, at least in this specific context. However nothing can ever be 100% safe - for example a woman might unwittingly disclose her normal user name when indicating how she had been bullied and/or by whom, though in the safe haven there'd be a good chance that no misogynist bully noticed her slip-up (that risk might be further reduced if at least some conversations in the haven could not be seen by all Wikipedians, contrary to the current proposal, but perhaps I'm now digressing a bit too far off topic) Tlhslobus ( talk) 06:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
It's not a good idea, to create a WikiProject where membership is restricted. I sincerely suggest that such a route be abandoned. GoodDay ( talk) 01:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
-- Djembayz ( talk) 05:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
To actually respond to Djem and Light (I know, crazy, huh?), I don't get the impression that female editors are at risk of harassment from Wikipedia editors, except for vandals and spammers. Usually the worst of the worst that comes to Arbcom is POV pushing, foul language, and generally uncivil behavior. On-wiki harassment is not common and off-wiki harassment is quite rare. However, truly knowing the answer to this question would require input from people who access non-public information Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 21:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Many of you male co-editors must edit in an entire different WP Universe - I can spot typical male passive-aggressive behavior on a daily basis (including in my own edits). I don't get it why so many editors get their boxers in a bunch over a few women claiming a tiny little space for themselves. (It's hilarious to watch though) ChristopheT ( talk) 09:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
The proposal sets a dangerous precedent and is contrary to overarching WMF guidelines re: equality etc, as Voceditenore suggests. The trial Kaffeeklatsch thing should be sent to WP:MFD on those grounds. The issue of safety for women (however you define it) seems to ignore the obvious, ie: no-one can be guaranteed to be safe. In the context of Wikipedia, plenty of men face issues that are just the same as those faced by women. In my specific case, I've had Wikipedia-related safety issues so severe of late that WMF have been taking an interest and I had to move house etc on the advice of the UK Special Branch (anti-terrorist police). If you want ensure your safety then don't edit; if you want merely to reduce the risk, don't ghettoise yourself by identifying with anything and don't edit in areas that have even a potential for controversy. Alas, since even the Monty Hall problem and Dressing gown have been know to generate a phenomenal amount of heat, the "don't edit in areas" bit is itself problematic. Certainly, you'd need to steer clear of religious and ethnic topics, anything to do with sexuality and anything to do with public policy or politics. If you're worried about safety and want to continue here but have already fallen into the trap of identifying yourself then follow WP:CLEANSTART to the letter. - Sitush ( talk) 12:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
While in light of what happened in Gamergate (the actual controversy, not the article) and our need to attract and retain female editors I'm inclined to be in favor of this suggestion, at the same time I have to acknowledge that the community has historically been skeptical and, eventually, aggressively opposed to projects which have limited membership: see Esperanza which was formed for similarly benign purposes (and reading the MFD discussion which ended Esperanza is particularly enlightening in regard to the perceived faults which are relevant here) and to a similar but lesser extent, Association of Members' Advocates. If this goes forward, its members are going to have to relentlessly patrol and monitor its activities to avoid the mere appearance of canvassing, suspicious offline activities, or undue advocacy of a type which might not be seen by all — including the male hegemony here — as being in the best interest of the encyclopedia. I'm not sure that it can achieve its purpose with those limitations, but I'm willing to at least see it tried. (With one final reluctance: when something like this fails, the organizers/leaders have a tendency to become disheartened and leave the community. Since I'm afraid that this project may be moribund from birth, I'd hate to lose good female editors due to the failure of this project.) Regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 16:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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01:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)In the spirit of providing general background information:
Today I was using Wikipedia and noticed typographical errors existing on several article pages, including a category that does not exist and blank space before an article introduction. I have fixed what I can, but I have a feeling that minor issues such as these are widespread and may be occurring throughout Wikipedia. This spoils my experience, and I do not intend to continue using Wikipedia until I find that such problems are fully resolved. I really enjoy Wikipedia, so I hope that in the future, editors will see to it that such errors are fixed as soon as they are noticed. Thank you. 104.207.136.27 ( talk) 14:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
I sincerely hope this was trolling on 104.207's part. If not, I'm sorry to say that wikipedia will never be free of the typographical and other errors that have so distressed 104.207, and he or she would be very well advised to give us a very wide berth indeed. I for one am desolate that my hundreds or thousands of hours of unpaid work has not yielded a product acceptable to 104.207, and I certainly resolve to try harder in future. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 00:08, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
This is a whole bunch of questions:
Degrees-achieved have been added (by possibly one editor contributions, contributions) to articles' Infoboxes, including Infobox:Judge, Infobox:Vice President, and Infobox:Officeholder. The degrees-achieved have then been removed with edit summaries saying something along the lines of "degrees and fields of study go in the |education= field". I can't find a guideline stating that such is the case but Wikipedia is a big place so maybe I've missed something. Would appreciate some guidance on this issue, not sure what the procedure should be going forward.
If this is in the wrong place, sorry, I couldn't figure out where I should post this query - please post here where it should go. Thanks, Shearonink ( talk) 20:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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, or if they prefer separate lines for every little detail, then that's fine. The interested people just need to talk it over and write down their decision.
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22:47, 25 January 2015 (UTC)Hi all
I’m looking for feedback and endorsement for my Wikimedia Foundation PEG grant to be Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO. I’d very much appreciate if you would have a look, the most relevant objectives to Wikipedia are:
I ran a pilot project that resulted in the images found in the Wikimedia Commons category Images from the archive of UNESCO, here are a few examples:
If you think this is a worthwhile project please click this link and then click the endorse button.
Many thanks
Mrjohncummings ( talk) 21:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
The following message was left on my user talk page. The editor wished for it to be "forwarded" and since this is the closest thing we have to an open forum about general wiki issues, I'm copying it here. (The user left it for me, I suspect, because I had interacted with him as the current chairperson of the Mediation Committee.) Regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 22:21, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
READ ABOUT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH POLITICAL BIAS AT WIKIPEDIA: http://wikibias.blogspot.com
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WIKIPEDIA: I have a number of recommendations for Wikipedia, if they desire to be a respected and neutral information resource: First, you need to clearly understand how socio-politically monolithic your editors really are. You can start by tracking the selection of your userboxes by your editors. I believe that this simple action will enable you to gain a better understanding of the philosophy of your demographic (it might also help to have one or two pro-business/entrepreneur userboxes too). Second, you must accept and address the fact that the majority of your socio-economic and political articles are being policed not only by paid political operatives, but also loosely-associated activists, who cling together to repel any editor input that is seen as a threat to their narrative. Third, the concept of 'editor consensus' that is the operational cornerstone of your site is horrendously flawed. It may seemingly create a more peaceful editing environment, but the downside of consensus is that it devolves into group-think and hive-mind behavior. It also snuffs-out alternative or contrary perspectives and it leads to frustration, vandalism, and constant edit-warring. Ultimately, those with a different world-view are perniciously rejected ... and ejected (such as my case)... from the process, which further solidifies your problematic singular mindset. Fourth, the mediation process, overlaid by your consensus requirements, is completely useless and should either be modified or removed. Mediation Rule: Prerequisite #5 (Acceptance by a majority of parties) makes it practically impossible for alternative input to survive if challenged editors can shut down mediation by simply opting out of the process, with the net result being that their 'defended' work still stands. Considering this, why would any editor ever accept mediation. Fifth, all of the above four issues revolve around the same problem ... the vast majority of your editors are significantly skewed to the left ... philosophically, socially, and politically. One of the stated goals of Wikipedia is to be 'neutral' and impartial in the presentation of its subject-matter, yet how can this be achieved if its editorship composition, promoted by its consensus and mediation practices, protects a singular world-view? If it truly believes in those stated goals, Wikipedia must make a proactive decision to engage, involve (and at times protect) a broader spectrum of editors. Wikipedia needs to actively facilitate their input, particularly when it comes to contentious topics. This can be achieved by involving Wikipedia administrators (and/or senior editor volunteers) who are sensitive to the issue and more representative of a broader perspective. Their involvement could provide balance in conflict situations such as mine. The worst feeling in the world as a Wiki-editor is fighting an onslaught of editors who do not share your opinion, while those who support you have to anonymously cower in the dark and helplessly watch you take the beating from a distance out of fear of similar intimidation or retribution.
Please forward ... if anyone at Wiki gives a darn.
Wikipedia Editor: Tolinjr-- Tolinjr ( talk) 21:44, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
I recently proposed a women-only space at the WMF IdeaLab. Support has been much better than I expected, but there has also been a lot of opposition.
One problem that has presented itself is how to ensure, as much as is possible, that editors who join the group are women. And that brings me to my question for the broader Wikipedia community:
Is it unsafe for a woman to set her user profile "Internationalisation" preference to "She edits wiki pages" or to add her username to Category:Female Wikipedians?
Or put another way: Do women who "out" themselves as women on Wikipedia using either of the two options mentioned increase their risk for physical or psychological danger on- or off-wiki?
I would very much appreciate this discussion to stay on this question only, and that any other questions or concerns about the proposal be taken to its talk page.
Thanks. -- Lightbreather ( talk) 01:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
@ Lightbreather:It seems like a lot of editors think you're talking about who can be in the women's group, which was not my impression at all. Could you please clarify your intent on this conversation? Are all the comments above off-topic? Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 05:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
I thought I was addressing your question in my reply which has now been hived off to another section. So here's the short answer: The more information you reveal about yourself on Wikipedia (and on the internet in general), the less "safe" you are. That includes, but is not limited to, your gender. Simply signing on to an explicitly women-only project reveals your gender, but at least it's currently in a relatively obscure place. Requiring anyone who participates to additionally reveal their gender on their user page and add themselves to Category:Female Wikipedians, increases the risk a lot more. My main point is/was: Why put your members in that position, when it offers absolutely no additional protection from people posing as women with the intent to deceive? If you want your members to be as safe as possible, my advice would be to drop requirements 2 and 3 and add WP:NOINDEX to the Kaffeeklatsch pages. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:30, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
You are at equal risk, in my opinion. Everyone here can get enemies and threats. The more you reveal, the more specific the type of threat. The severity is not much different. Males get called paedophiles, and females get rape threats. Both are subject to death threats. These slanders and threats can easily cross into the real world - to work, friends, and home. Most stalkers who do these threats get banned and continue the threats anyway, however most editors are not like this. Most will not care about your gender nor threaten you. Any of the general gender-neutral advice about revealing identity would be relevant here. -- zzuuzz (talk) 16:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Bear with me, this comment starts out on a bit of a dark note. I think that the risk from identifying oneself as female in this space (i.e. Wikipedia) is no greater or less than the risk from identifying oneself as female in any online space (i.e. anywhere else on the internet, generally). Any person can be a user here by default and can be as anonymous as they want to be; it is only users who have proven themselves unsuitable members of the community who have been expelled from it. The nature of this community is that some users will occasionally disagree with other users, and there are unfortunately users among us who will use whatever information they can find to try to "win" a dispute by intimidating their "opponent" into submission. This is forbidden by policy and users who do these things are swiftly ejected, but we can't control what people do off-wiki. We know that there are (hopefully rarely) individuals whose personal beliefs or even mental illnesses make them dangerous in real life to people whose identities are available online, and I do believe that females are more exposed to this sort of risk (though I wish it weren't so). I believe that the assessment of that risk is up to the individual. But I do think that you can create a "safe" space on Wikipedia, even without requiring a user to reveal their gender to join, if you are quick to expel users who are disruptive, and perhaps you can recruit some vigilant administrators to assist in that effort. It is also possible to use WP:EMERGENCY to contact law enforcement if there appears to be an off-wiki threat. I do think that the benefits of that safe space outweigh the risks of being part of it, and I also think that the Wikipedia community will be better for your effort. Ivanvector ( talk) 21:09, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
There's been a minor proliferation of edit tags lately and I feel that it's kind of getting out of hand. We discussed recently about the two "mobile app edit" and "mobile edit" tags which almost always redundantly appear together, and now there's a new "canned edit summary" tag, which triggers via edit summaries like typo and fixed grammar. My watchlist is now seriously dense, with walls of edit tags. The useful stuff I like to scan (size of edit, actual edit summary) is quickly getting dwarfed by the stuff that is not useful at all, such as the aforementioned tags. I think it's weird that some visual changes to the watchlist, like the whole blue/green dot thing a while ago, gets tons of discussion and debate while many edit tags, which demonstrably decrease the readability of my watchlist without providing any added value, are implemented without discussion and with no transparency for most editors. (Yes, I understand why transparency is bad in some cases... but must I pass RfA just to discuss what goes into my watchlist?)
Why was the "canned edit summary" tag implemented, and what problem is it supposed to solve? Is it to help look out for sneaky vandalism? Believe me, anyone who watches vandalism for more than a week figures out the very small set of canned edit summaries used for sneaky vandalism and doesn't need an edit tag to point them out. And anyone who hasn't watched vandalism for more than a week wouldn't understand what the edit tag is telling them anyway.
This is not to say that edit tags aren't useful. Some are tremendously useful. Others are not, and lately those are the ones that appear with irritating frequency. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 05:50, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
BTW, if you're not familiar, the mobile app, after making an edit, will then ask how you changed the page, and it gives several default options, since typing on mobile is a hassle. "Canned edit summary" is what results when a user chooses one of these options. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 18:27, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
People keep using "notability" in terms of removing portion of content. Shouldn't people use "prevalence" or "important" instead? Also, in titling discussions, they discussed whatever follows the sources without knowing how to connect to general readers. They vote for one title that doesn't fit readers' needs instead of another title that does. Why is that? -- George Ho ( talk) 03:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
@ George Ho: "Notability" is a noun (so is "prevalance"), while "notable" is an adjective (so is "important"). "Notability" may be used more frequently when people are thinking about Wikipedia's notability guideline. While it would be great if everyone used the correct form of speech in every discussion and edit summary, I believe that civility and proper application of the guideline are more important. GoingBatty ( talk) 03:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
@ George Ho: Could you please provide some examples? Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 03:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Interesting that you bring up ROC and PRC for "titles meeting reader's needs". Most of our readers don't have strong opinions about the imaginary dispute the two countries have (there's been no war or demands, just the little official maps they prepare). The vast majority of our readers aren't aware that both countries claim the other's territory. People see news reports, history books, product labels and everything else that say "Taiwan" and "China". "Republic of China" and "People's Republic of China" are political statements, not accurately descriptive names. Republic of China is really "Taiwan", so the official political-statement name is confusing to most of our readers, and doesn't serve their needs. Taiwan and China are titles that do. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 17:18, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I found another example, Pink (singer) vs "P!nk". I ended up typing "P!ink" instead; at least I corrected myself once. Anyway, how does "P!ink"/"P!nk" help readers more than "Pink (singer)"? -- George Ho ( talk) 06:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I help to organise meetups of Wikimedians in the north of England. It tends to be the usual group of people who attend – mostly experienced Wikimedians, and that's all well and good, but one of the aims of the meetups is to raise awareness of Wikipedia and to get new or unconfident editors to contribute more. It is rare for new or beginner editors to attend, and I think one of the reasons for this is that they just don't know about the events. However, they're a key target audience.
The events are advertised on Watchlist pages with a geonotice, but of course if you rarely look at your Watchlist, or if you don't have one at all, then you won't see it. Word of mouth advertising only goes so far.
Would it be possible to promote meetups and other events in a more prominent place, such as on the Wikipedia Main Page? I wouldn't expect a big banner like the Watchlist geonotice, but maybe there could be a link to an "Upcoming events" article somewhere on the page.
Note that these meetups are usually informal events held in pubs. A wider promotion campaign involving press, radio, etc. probably wouldn't be appropriate for these pub meetups; that approach would be more suitable for formal training or awareness-raising events. We don't want to be overwhelmed with newbies, but having two or three turn up would be a very good thing, hence my suggestion of a more prominent on-Wiki notice. Thanks,
Bazonka (
talk)
20:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Wikimedia Nederland welcomes interested Wikimedians and GLAM enthusiasts to join us at the
GLAM-WIKI 2015 conference, from 9 - 12 April 2015 in The Hague, The Netherlands. The
call for proposals and application for
scholarships are now open!
Ter-burg (
talk)
15:03, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Should the lead section of the article on actress Rosamund Pike state the genre of the films she has appeared in, as set out in a WP:RS? The RfC is here OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 01:26, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Alejandro González Iñárritu (born August 15, 1963) is a Mexican film director, famous for films like Babel. I welcome your input on whether you think the genres of his films are pertinent to mention in the lead of the director's article. The RfC can be viewed here. OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 00:03, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
AltMetrics are now including Wikipedia citations in their scoring. I'm quoted in their announcement. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:45, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Dear wikipedians,
I would love to receive constructive criticism on your part on my project to improve it.
This project is somehow a WW suggestion box where people grouped around ideas to start projects. The goal is that one day the site receives great ideas (from teenagers to elders, from the whole planet) and that, some beautiful projects see the day...
For those who want to participate in libreidea here's a todo list and a chan libreidea on freenode
I count on you Wikipedians to talk to your loved ones and your network.
Thanks for your help and do not forget if you have good ideas, the reflex is libreidea!
-- Vev ( talk) 20:41, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Dear all, the Wikimedia Foundation Scholarships Program is still offering a limited number of scholarships to offset the cost of selected individuals' attendance at Wikimania using funding provided by the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF). The deadline to apply is very near, please send your applications. -- ProtoplasmaKid ( talk) 02:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello everyone. The GLAM project has had a successful impact in Spain, being remarkable the work of Amical with numerous institutions in Catalonia. After emailing several institutions, three museums of Madrid, under the Ministry of Culture (Museo del Romanticismo, Museo del Traje and Museo Arqueológico Nacional), have shown interest in developing the Wikipedist-in-Residence initiative, by which various activities of diffusion, training and liberalization and improvement of content related to these museums will take place. As first collaboration with the Ministry, it would be a starting point and possibly serve to encourage other museums or institutions to collaborate with the Wikimedia movement. To start the project I applied for a grant to the Wikimedia Foundation, that you can see here, to evaluate and support it if it seems interesting. Thank you very much. -- Rodelar ( talk) 14:20, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Have you seen this? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/24/wikipedia-declares-war-on-women-gives-anti-feminist-males-control-over-gender-and-sexuality-entries/
I'm disgusted with Wikipedia and will be spreading the word that it is NOT factual, and a terrible source of information. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.24.66 ( talk) 14:26, 31 January 2015
A user called User:WMFOffice (with all the hallmarks of an SPA, and sock, I.E. detailed knowledge of Wikipedia policies and personalities, but only a handful of edits, none in article space) has posted to Russavia's user page (and one or two others) saying that they have been in contravention of WMF's terms of service, thus implying they have been harassing other users. There is no evidence supplied for these negative claims about (we hope) living people, contrary to WP:BLP requirements that any such claim be immaculately sourced.
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 22:37, 5 February 2015 (UTC).
In article Emmylou Harris appearances - listing "appearances that Emmylou Harris has contributed to" - I find the song named "Going back to Harlan" listed as her own song (according to column 2, Songwriter). But in the article about Emmylou I find this quote: Wrecking Ball, produced by Daniel Lanois (...), an experimental album for Harris, the record included (...) Kate and Anna McGarrigle's "Goin' Back to Harlan".
So I haven't found the answers I was looking for: Who wrote the song? It's not easy to search the net, as other sites disagree just as much, picking randomly one for the other. My other question, not as easy to find an answer to: No matter who wrote the song, where is this Harlan? I have actually been to Harlan, KY and found it a nice place, but of course there are far more than one Harlan. Does any of those Harlans relate to either Harris or the McGarrigles? TorSch ( talk) 18:25, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I am an academic working at Politecnico di Milano, in Italy. I would like to get in touch with regular contributor(s) to Wikipedia based around here, to discuss a possible project involving our PhD students. many thanks. -- Gmrozz ( talk) 11:40, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
I just discovered there is an R&B artist known as Bobby Brown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Brown There is no reference to the famous "Frank Zappa"-song of the same name. Could anybody in the know create one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.252.163.159 ( talk) 10:41, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello,
There's an RfC on the Brian Williams talk page you might be interested in Here. Thanks, SW3 5DL ( talk) 05:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Why people use {{ double dagger}} in the article of 67th Academy Awards#Winners and nominees#Awards rather than other signs?-- 淺藍雪 ❉ 22:30, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
It's possible that Desire Dondeyne died. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 16:21, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
When an editor tags a non-free image for being oversize, Wikipedia uses a bot to automatically downsize the image. I question its use at Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Requests_for_approval#Request_for_re-examination_Wikipedia:Bots.2FRequests_for_approval.2FTheo.27s_Little_Bot.2C_Task_1. I've never dropped into bot approvals before, so I don't know how much traffic it gets, hence this note. - hahnch e n 22:23, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello
The c:Commons:Wiki Loves Africa photographic contest is reaching its end and the jury has decided the first three winners: c:Wiki Loves Africa 2014/Winners
We wish to add a fourth prize that will be voted by the community. A selection of 20 images (the best of the selection by jury, from n°4 till n°23) is proposed here : c:Wiki Loves Africa 2014/Community Prize Selection. Please cast your vote ! (only one vote per person please) Anthere ( talk)
Moved to Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea lab)#General_opinion_on_physically_restricting_access_to_the_New_Pages_Feed. -- Biblio worm 20:34, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Boy, AnomieBOT is sure bringing back memories as it pops old discussions up on my watchlist... :-) -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:14, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Dear all, the Wikimedia Foundation Scholarships Program is still offering a limited number of scholarships to offset the cost of selected individuals' attendance at Wikimania using funding provided by the Wikimedia Foundation. You have less than three days to apply! Please send your applications. -- ProtoplasmaKid ( talk) 06:20, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Should Ranger 8 be italicized? It is the name of something, but it is not a title. This could come up in many articles. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:59, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
{{
italic title}}
was added less than an hour before
Bubba73 raised this thread. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
12:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
"Should Ranger 8 be italicized? It is the name of something, but it is not a title.". This proceeds from the false assumption that only titles of works are italicized, and it questions the italicization of Ranger 8 on the basis that the name isn't a title. (It's comparable to asking "Why is 'New York' capitalized, when it isn't a person?", on the assumption that only people's names are capitalized.) We then moved past the question, with the real rationale for the italicization, and clearly distinguished vessel names like Ranger 8 from mission names like Apollo 11, which featured two vessels, the names of which are italicized. The question could come up about how to write about Ranger 8 as a mission – as a NASA operation – rather than as a spacecraft. In that case, the least confusing result would be to refer to it as "the Ranger 8 mission", just as we might refer to "the voyage of The Beagle" or "The Mayflower landing". No one's actually asked that question, and there doesn't seem to be a dispute about it, much less one that couldn't be resolved on the article talk page, or raised more generally at an MOS talk page. There doesn't seem to be a site-wide issue here requiring VP attention. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 13:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Ranger 8 has been notified of this discussion, as have WT:WikiProject Spaceflight and WT:MOSTEXT. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 16:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Opinions of neutral uninvolved eds eagerly sought on this important topic at Talk:Streisand_effect#RfC:_Is_the_Streisand_Effect_defined_by_usage.3F_Should_wp_include_Charlie_Hebdo.3F
Hopefully, once folk actually read and engage with the proposed material and reasons for its inclusion, the problem should be easily resolved. Meanwhile, an unusual combination of circumstances resulted in me looking quite trollish, so some uninvested perspective would be very welcome.
Plus I suspect there could be lessons to be learnt here re declining numbers of wp editors. GreenPeasAndPotatoes ( talk) 07:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
I am trying to find out about Pichincha, Ecuador. According to http://www.altillo.com/en/universities/universities_ecuador.asp, there are over twenty universities there. Yet,
Pichincha,_Ecuador is a tiny article about Guayaquil.
When I go to Pichincha Province, I get a page with no mention of such a city or town and with dead links Google maps shows it as a small locale just outside of Quito.
Kdammers ( talk) 10:59, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
How can the game theory be applied to model wikiedits to articles and wikidialogues in talk pages?-- 5.15.42.38 ( talk) 11:03, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Note that Luigi Arienti has died acording to italian wikipedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 14:42, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I just found out that the article American craft had credited a book written by Michael Monroe as a source. Now the link Michael Monroe goes to a Finnish rock/punk musician, real name Matti Fagerholm, who is best known by his artist name Michael Monroe. I very seriously doubt he would ever have written a book about American craft, that must have been some American writer whose real name is Michael Monroe.
The thing is, the article American craft had been this way ever since it was created, for almost nine years. Right at the beginning, or any time since, its original author could have actually clicked the wikilink and seen that he/she had the wrong Michael Monroe. But no, he/she did not, and neither did anyone else.
I finally removed the wikilink from the author's name. I would have done it sooner, but I didn't know the article American craft existed. I only found it by using the "What links here" tool for Michael Monroe.
I myself often click on every not completely obvious blue wikilink in articles I have created, or that appear in edits I have made, just to be sure I have got the right targets. Not immediately, but usually within weeks or months. I don't just leave them entirely unchecked for almost a decade.
Why can't people be more accurate in checking their wikilinks? JIP | Talk 20:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
I can't figure out how to add geocoordinate data. I have lat=45.8104911, long=13.4287543, but when I try to fill in a template copied from another article I get error messages. Thanks, EChastain ( talk) 21:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
{{
Infobox River}}
, and the documentation for that shows that two pairs of coordinates may be used: if your coordinates are those of the river's origin (which may be a source or confluence), use |origin_lat_d=45.8105
|origin_long_d=13.4287
but if they are the river's mouth (which again may be a confluence), use |mouth_lat_d=45.8105
|mouth_long_d=13.4287
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
22:00, 23 February 2015 (UTC)The workaround described here with getting un watermarked images from a certain site [ex. [7] ]. I can't seem to get this to work anymore...is there something I'm doing wrong, or have browser updates since then made it impossible to do? Connormah ( talk) 08:24, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Most editors who participate on user talk pages have seen ( talk page stalker) used to preface comments. Based on concerns listed at Template talk:Talk page stalker I've created a new Template:Talk page watcher which produces ( talk page watcher). Please comment if you wish. -- NeilN talk to me 15:46, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello
The c:Commons:Wiki Loves Africa photographic contest is reaching its end and the jury has decided the first three winners: c:Wiki Loves Africa 2014/Winners
We wish to add a fourth prize that will be voted by the community. A selection of 20 images (the best of the selection by jury, from n°4 till n°23) is proposed here : c:Wiki Loves Africa 2014/Community Prize Selection. Please cast your vote ! (only one vote per person please) Anthere ( talk)
I received the following e-mail (lightly redacted):
Get to voting! — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 20:40, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
is being run again in March - see Wikipedia:The Core Contest for details. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 11:20, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
What is going on with all the changes being made in articles (and their titles) by adding accents and tildes to proper names? Wikipedia guidelines are pretty clear on this. See Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English)#Modified_letters. It is very annoying to me as a copy editor to see these mistakes in spelling: I am always impelled to dive in and correct them, and that is just a waste of time. In some instances I have had to ask an administrator for help in renaming (moving) an entire page to one with the correct spelling. I hope the people reading this can find a solution to this (apparent) wave of name changes. Thank you. GeorgeLouis ( talk) 18:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
I have made an RfC [8] at the talk page [9] of the Morisco article.
Should the last paragraph in the "Expulsion" section of the article state as accomplished fact that Moriscos were mostly not descendants of Arab settlers, but overwhelmingly the descendants of native Iberians who converted to Islam?
A couple of editors insist that this statement be left as it is: "Contrary to popular belief, the Moriscos were for the most part not descendants of Arab settlers, but instead were overwhelmingly the descendants of Muladis, native Iberians who converted to Islam under Muslim rule, and were as ethnically Iberian as the Christians who expelled them." The only supporting source given is a documentary on the British Channel 4. They allow qualifying information to be appended, but revert any attempt to rephrase the declarative statement so that it doesn't represent this as an objective fact, as the article's history will show. Carlstak ( talk) 05:21, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
This is a rush request for a kind editor to take a staged photo to help save Wikipedia a ton of resources.
It would put an end to two months, approaching 20k words, and many hours of observer reads, over a disputed lead image at Age disparity in sexual relationships. (It is gone now, but in the last stable version, so will return. It is a picture of a marriage -- not ideal.)
Image needed: Ideal would be a man and woman, very obvious age difference, waist up, (fake) kissing, clothes on of course, holding hands (they show age well) visible at shoulder level, so the focus of the image would be heads and hands.
Please, anyone with a camera and willing, appropriate people in the room, take the photo and upload it here.
Many thanks,
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 02:33, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Cranach is a good start. commons:Category:The unlikely couples by Lucas Cranach (I) -- Atlasowa ( talk) 19:00, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
If someone does choose to make a photograph for this, then please be very careful about privacy and personality rights. It may be easy to get a picture of Grandma and her grandson, but putting it in a context that implies they have a sexual relationship is libel.
See Wikipedia:Image use policy#Privacy rights for our policy and for links to the relevant policies at Commons and the WMF Board resolution. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 19:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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Is it just me, or does anyone else feel the opposite of WP:OWN? Whenever I create or edit an article, I feel the need for someone else to edit the article afterwards. Preferably keeping my changes in or editing them, and adding their own changes. Not simply reverting my changes. I am usually very much disappointed to see articles that I have last edited stay unchanged for months or years. JIP | Talk 21:49, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Suppose I were to create an article that was a list of every joke in the repertoire of some comedian. This might be from a live performance or it might be from a published book. Suppose I change the wording enough to avoid close paraphrase, but still the article is just as funny as reading the book or attending the show, in a matter that is not educational and that diminishes the value of the comedian's work. Note that this is different from spoilers, because reading spoilers isn't as interesting as reading or viewing the original work. Wouldn't that be a copyright violation of some kind? Do we have policy or precedents where this has come up before? I see in this article [11] something that comes close. Geogene ( talk) 01:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Suppose I change the wording enough to avoid close paraphrase. I'm skeptical that you could still rightfully call those jokes the comedian's at that point. -- Izno ( talk) 01:08, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
a
red linked firm at
List of architecture firms, which does not allow
any red links. I removed it.
They reposted it, I undid it again.
If they post again and I undo again, am I in violation of some 3 revert edit warring rule and is the while weight of the wikilaw ?
Carptrash (
talk)
14:24, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
My Royal Society of Chemistry colleagues and I propose to update citations to The Merck Index. As there may be CoI concerns, please review the proposal, and comment, at Wikipedia:GLAM/Royal Society of Chemistry/Merck. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:01, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Please connect the article Rodion Nakhapetov to the russian one. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 17:52, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Are Wikipedia users allowed to use their user pages and signatures to promote their religious beliefs? 217.44.208.143 ( talk) 22:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
I accidentally run into this super-aggregator of encyclopedias when loooking into Stevens County, Washington: the WHE page looks like a complete rip-off of ours. Two problems:
What is the best venue in wikipedia to discuss the issue? Staszek Lem ( talk) 20:49, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
For quite some while have I encountered that my search engine, Google, comes up with the usual variety of websites to a keyed in search but will not allow me to go any further than Wikipedia. It is Wikipedia, only, that immediately opens up upon my command; almost every other website opens up delayed by ten to twenty minutes. I have been wondering if this means that a virus is in my Wikipedia or if it means that someone wants my browsing activity to be dominated by Wikipedia and has therefore blocked almost all other sites, which would be censorship, not of Wikipedia but censorship for the promotion of Wikipedia. If this were the case, has anybody ever heard of anything like it? What kind of profile would be established or assumed by a browsing history of almost exclusively Wikipedia? Cornelia T. Bradford — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3299:C080:B59E:27F7:4094:A29F ( talk) 00:37, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Big Brother 8 (Albania)#Housemates section is in Albanian, but I do not know how to tag this article or section for foreign language text. Please provide help.-- DThomsen8 ( talk) 18:14, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
{{
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. You could also list it at
WP:PNT; see also
WP:RFT. --
Redrose64 (
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18:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)Journalists have found that the New York City Police Department had close to 100 IP addresses which made questionable edits to articles that covered cases where the NYPD was involved, that seemed intended to mislead the wikipedia's readers.
Computer users identified by Capital as working on the NYPD headquarters' network have edited and attempted to delete Wikipedia entries for several well-known victims of police altercations, including entries for Eric Garner, Sean Bell, and Amadou Diallo. Capital identified 85 NYPD addresses that have edited Wikipedia, although it is unclear how many users were involved, as computers on the NYPD network can operate on the department's range of IP addresses.
To what extent should the documented efforts of NYPD IP addresses to edit the articles on Eric Garner, Sean Bell and Amadou Diallo contain coverage of elements of the NYPD attempting to subvert the wikipedia's integrity?
Question: What advice should we give to off-duty NYPD officers, who want to edit articles that cover accusation of abuse by other NYPD officers? Should their user page out them as an NYPD officer? Should they be told they need to read WP:COI prior to editing any article that touches on the NYPD?
These articles should probably be locked so only registered contributors can contribute to them. Geo Swan ( talk) 18:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Revision as of 18:19, 11 August 2009 146.244.138.85 "conceptual learning, or synthesizing ability, occurs with significantly greater frequency in whites than in blacks. He suggested that from the data, one might conclude that on average, white Americans are more intelligent than African-Americans.ref http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g2699/is_0001/ai_2699000187 Encyclopedia of Psychology ref"
Revision as of 16:01, 12 August 2009 69.112.3.52 "conceptual learning, or synthesizing ability, occurs with significantly greater frequency in Asians than in whites. He suggested that from the data, one might conclude that on average, Asian Americans are more intelligent than white Americans.<ref http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g2699/is_0001/ai_2699000187 Encyclopedia of Psychology ref"
single contrib by 69.112.3.52 reference is now a dead link.
Five and a half years, is that a record? And what race might you be, 69? GangofOne ( talk) 02:05, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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parameter of the cite templates so people know exactly what text is being quoted. If the vandal only changes the text in one spot, the mismatch is a clue that something is amiss.
Jason Quinn (
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08:49, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Amanda Marcotte, reporting in Slate magazine described on-going controversy in wikipedia's coverage of the Gamergate controversy. In her account anti-feminist vandals, in violation of various policies, unfairly used the wikipedia to attack feminist critics of computer games -- and, in its ruling, the arbitration committee applied sanctions to both the vandals and certain vandal fighters.
After agreeing that, eventually, the work of the POV-pushing vandals was undone, she concluded:
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I think Marcotte's criticism deserves attention. I have personally been harassed by very persistent uncivil POV-pushing edit-warriors, who were eventually blocked for policy violations. When the most persistent of these POV vandals was eventually indefinitely blocked, so was a good contributor, who had merely been trying to undo the vandal's policy violations. Geo Swan ( talk) 19:08, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Please read the Ordered to Die-article. It reads: "Edward Erickson has produced the first fully researched account of the Ottoman army in the First World War. There simply has not been a similar complete account, apart from an earlier work in French... uniquely different from previous publications...very systematic, and unlike previous publications..."
In short, my WP:PEACOCK-alert went off.Can somebody have a look at it? Jeff5102 ( talk) 07:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
I have Add a "Sandbox" link to the personal toolbar area enabled in my preferences, yet I no longer see a Sandbox link in my personal toolbar. Does anybody know what might have happened? Praemonitus ( talk) 04:16, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Buk_missile_system#20.03.2015_Netherlands_officially_denied_media_reports.
(cur | prev) 06:18, 22 March 2015 Volunteer Marek (talk | contribs) . . (80,989 bytes) (-508) . . (no they didn't. Get your news from a real source not one which makes up crap. Yawwwwwnnnnnn.) (undo)
the administrator does not accept the fact. it uses the media information (03,03,15) but removes media refutation (20,03,15). this a forgery + lie.
I ask you to indicate the correct path for /info/en/?search=Talk I do not know the correct+formal procedure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.119.233.107 ( talk) 14:07, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
A couple months ago, I wrote Verifiability, and truth in my user space. I'm considering moving it into the WP namespace, but I'm not sure about whether or not it's ready for that in terms of content and quality. I'd like if a few other editors might take a look and offer their opinions on whether or not it's ready for the move, and what might need to be done before moving it over. Thanks! // coldacid ( talk| contrib) 18:59, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I am busy reviving a previously deleted article on NL Wikipedia on High Icelandic. Here its a redirect, but it exists as real articles on a lot of other Wikipedia's, even Icelandic. It has a history of spamming. I have the impression that due to the fact this article exists on Wikipedia, the constructed language from the 1990s still remains a bit alive. Almost all websites about it have disappeared. Is there a scientific evidence, that Wikipedia itself creates a new sort of "truth". And could this language be a sign of this? Could you provide any sources of this happening in more cases? Pieter1 ( talk) 12:59, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Is any website tried to simulate erosion against itself in purpose for more natural experience? 87.92.40.213 ( talk) 14:55, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm representing a team of researchers from Drexel University who are researching privacy practices among Wikipedia editors. If you have ever thought about your privacy when editing Wikipedia or taken steps to protect your privacy when you edit, we’d like to learn from you about it.
The study is titled “Privacy, Anonymity, and Peer Production.” Details can be found on meta where the project was discussed before beginning recruitment here: ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anonymity_and_Peer_Production).
If you would like to help us out, you need to read and complete the online consent form linked here and we will get in contact with you: http://andreaforte.net/wp.html.
We are planning to conduct interviews that will last anywhere from 30-90 minutes (depending on how much you have to say) by phone or Skype and we can offer you $20 for your time, but you do not need to accept payment to participate.
I have been researching Wikipedia since 2004 and have conducted many studies, most of which have resulted in papers that you can find here: http://andreaforte.net
Thanks for considering it, please contact me if you have questions!
-- Andicat ( talk) 16:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC) (Andrea Forte, aforte@drexel.edu)
How would I reach out to someone from the Wikimedia Foundation about if neglecting to put a specific word in an article title's disambiguator has the potential to result in a lawsuit against the foundation? I mean, my concern might not be an issue at all in the foundation's eyes, but I'm not sure. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:18, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm trying to figure out whether there's any reason why the new article Vatnik (slang) is out of place here. It's a transcription into English of a word that isn't used in English, only in Russian and Ukrainian. Even if someone wrote an article about a comparable English word that went beyond being a dictionary definition and warranted inclusion, it seems odd to me that foreign words unknown to the English-speaking world would have a presence even if they go beyond a definition. I could be entirely wrong but I thought I'd get some feedback on this. —Largo Plazo ( talk) 13:40, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
I can understand that this product has some significance, but it's probably never going to be released. What is the policy on articles for products that don't exist and probably didn't have all that much cultural significance to start with? I imagine parts of this could be merged into other articles (e.g. DJ Hero, since it encountered a legal issue directly concerning that game), but I doubt we need more than that. Still, I'm hesitant to raise an AfD or propose deletion for this article. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 03:14, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
How can I recover or change my password, if I don't have it? Obviously I am logged on now, but I want AWB use, and obviously eventually I will not get in.-- DThomsen8 ( talk) 19:23, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Looking at Wikipedia:Size_of_Wikipedia#The data set and the main article counter, about 100000 new articles got added within the past 48 hours or so. Was this an epic article creation drive, or something else going on there? Dl2000 ( talk) 03:50, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
This global map of the oceans in mid-Pliocene, around 4-4.5 million years ago, and the deviations in water temperature compared with the present, has all present-day coastlines which makes it rather misleading. In a real image of the world at the time, the Panama isthmus would not yet exist, northern Europe and the western Mediterranean would look somewhat different (the Baltic Sea and the North Sea were not around prior to the most recent glaciations, Java and some other SE Asian islands didn't exist prior to around 2 million years ago, India should be stretching a wee bit further south and so on. The map is an original work by a user, built on data from the US Geological Survey, but their site has moved since the graphic was made, meaning it is now difficult to retrieve and check the data it was constructed on and see how old those data are.
I suggest someone should check the file and the data it represents and, at least, add a disclaimer onto the graphic saying that the outlines of coastlines and seas are not all correct. Also, check if there are more maps from the same source by the same user with the same error (it would become graver the further back in time you got, of course). Strausszek ( talk) 06:59, 30 March 2015 (UTC)