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Id Tech 2 (disambiguation)
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Unnecessary disambiguation page. "Id Tech 2" should just redirect to the topic at Id_Tech#id_Tech_2, and so this dab is not needed anymore. Natg 19 ( talk) 23:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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- delete: Id Tech 2 already redirects to Id Tech#id Tech 2, which is all we need. Pam D 07:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Joyce brothers
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The term "Joyce brothers" does not appear in any of the four brothers mentioned here. Google results for the term, even with words like "psychologist" and "doctor" removed, still return the more famous Joyce Brothers, but no James or anyone else. Should be a redirect targeted to her and labeled {{ r from miscapitalization}}, as I think that result would be far less surprising for readers (I certainly wasn't expecting it). I would oppose a hatnote as I think this is all a bit too silly to exist in any form, but if it's insisted upon then I'm willing to renege. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 09:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speaking of surprise, I was not expecting this to have been up at RfD just this month. Quite the hot button issue I suppose. Looking at that discussion, I don't think it should've been closed as early as it was, so I will argue against a procedural close of this as I think the issue is unresolved. Pinging Shhhnotsoloud, jnestorius, 162 etc., and Presidentman who participated, and * Pppery * who closed, as it's only fair if I'm going to claim this as a continuing discussion. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 09:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as per previous discussion. I am neutral on renaming to Joyce brothers (disambiguation) as long as there is a {{ redirect}} hatnote from Joyce Brothers. jnestorius( talk) 10:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I'm 100% in favour of deleting this, but opening an AfD immediately following a consensus at the RfD discussion isn't the right way to do it.
WP:MRV would be your next step.
162 etc. (
talk)
16:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- The correct venue for challenging a closure at
WP:RFD would be
WP:DRV not
WP:MRV. But I have no objection to my RfD closure being undone and the RfD relisted - looking back at it with a clearer head I agree my restore closure really doesn't properly reflect the consensus so you don't need to use any formal review processes.
* Pppery *
it has begun...
18:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Had I seen the RfD first, I would've done just that. My mistake for not doing so. Bit too late for it now, but I'm glad you're aware and hopefully it helps your process in the future. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 03:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The correct venue for challenging a closure at
WP:RFD would be
WP:DRV not
WP:MRV. But I have no objection to my RfD closure being undone and the RfD relisted - looking back at it with a clearer head I agree my restore closure really doesn't properly reflect the consensus so you don't need to use any formal review processes.
* Pppery *
it has begun...
18:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the consensus at RfD (now I've seen jnestorius's rationale). Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 18:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The fundamental question here is: will this aid readers in finding something for which they might be searching. Yes, yes it will.
BD2412
T
21:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- See, but I very much disagree with this. Sure, readers might be searching for the famous writer James Joyce and his far less famous brother, or the other two brothers, or they could (and I think far more likely are; see the page views where Dr. Brothers consistently gets hundreds of times the viewership as the brothers other than James) looking for the famous psychologist with this exact name. If we're desparate to keep this, then jnestorius' suggestion to add "(disambiguation)" might be useful, but regardless I don't see how this isn't a SURPRISE issue. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 03:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Andrey Vlasov (disambiguation)
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Disambiguation page not required ( WP:ONEOTHER). Primary topic article has a hatnote to the only other use. PROD removed by @ Salvidrim!: with edit summary "Not eligible for PROD (previous 20180419 PROD deletion contested by recreation). must use an applicable CSD criteria or XFD > Undid revision 1233186368 by Shhhnotsoloud" but 20180419 was before this page was created at 20:39, 28 August 2018. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 19:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Clarification - @ Shhhnotsoloud: yes the first revision of the current iteration of the page is 28 August 2018 but you can see it its deletion log at https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Log&page=Andrey_Vlasov_(disambiguation)&type=delete that a previous incarnation was deleted as an expired PROD 19 April 2018. Unfortunately per policy ( WP:PRODNOM), a page is no longer eligible for PROD if it was nominated (deleted or not) via PROD previously. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 20:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Unnecessary DAB. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 14:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Alphonse Joseph
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Neither of the two entries is a compound given name. Alphonse Joseph Georges has an article in the French wikipedia titled Alphonse Georges and a New York Times article about him also calls him Alphonse Georges. As for Alphonse Joseph Glorieux, his French wikipedia article is titled Alphonse Glorieux, a newspaper article refer to him the same way, [1] and his English article says "Alphonse Glorieux was born on ..." Clarityfiend ( talk) 11:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, overzealous creation of namecruft. People who type in Alphonse Joseph in the search box will have both names come up there. Geschichte ( talk) 19:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; these are partial-title matches that shouldn't be on a DAB page. Walsh90210 ( talk) 19:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and others. Not much justification for this page existing; Alphonse Joseph is for one a random given/middle name combination, not a given name as the article incorrectly states. Because of the unlikelihood of someone to be referred to by their first and middle names, such indexes are not typically created on Wikipedia, and we can see that they are indeed not referred to as "Alphonse Joseph" per the sources that nom gives. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - basically fails WP:OR, and is a useless dab. Bearian ( talk) 15:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Alex (Supergirl)
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Only one entry, Alex Danvers, has a standalone article. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 05:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete dab not needed per WP:ONEOTHER. Jclemens ( talk) 05:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or Redirect to Alex Danvers. It's hard to add a disambig hatnote to a table (list of episodes, as the other meaning is an tv show episode). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:04, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. There are clearly two topics that could be this entry. Having this lead to a disambiguation page prevents accidental links from happening as bots notify users when adding these. There is zero upsides to deleting or redirecting this. Gonnym ( talk) 06:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep this is not a case of
WP:ONEOTHER as there is no clear main topic.
Broc (
talk)
07:01, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I feel as there is as the episodes title is clearly referencing the character. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 18:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Keep, two topics. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 20:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to Alex Danvers, in the light of comments below.
- Delete: Disambiguation page only links to one article, the other is just an article where the second subject is mentioned. — Mjks28 ( talk) 03:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:ONEOTHER. The standalone article should be primary, with a hatnote being used to direct readers to the other Alex, who is only mentioned in the article body. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 18:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, per nomination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.81.183.250 ( talk) 00:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Alex Danvers and add hatnote to season page per WP:TWODABS/ WP:SIMILAR/ WP:ONEOTHER. Primary topic with only one other topic that isn't stand-alone article-worthy. – sgeureka t• c 15:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Alex Danvers. I've added coverage of the first topic (the episode "Alex") to the second topic ( Alex Danvers). [2] There is a redirect ( Alex (Supergirl episode)) that could be used for a hatnote on Alex Danvers#Season 2. I wasn't sure if it was okay to do a see also for a redirect, but it makes sense here. Rjjiii ( talk) 03:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Alex Danvers. The article now has information about the episode "Alex." This two-item disambiguation page serves no useful purpose. If not redirect, then simply delete. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 05:04, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Right now, there is no consensus.
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- Redirect to Alex Danvers. The only two topics are the character (who has a standalone article) and a TV show episode named after that character (which does not have a standalone article). A hatnote is definitely sufficient for dealing with the small number of people who would want to go to the list entry about the episode. QuicoleJR ( talk) 23:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, again. Arguments are almost evenly divided between those wanting to Keep the page and those advocating a Redirect (with a few Delete opinions mixed in). So, we need some more policy-based arguments or some participants reconsidering their "votes". No consensus closures tend to make all sides dissatisfied so that is the last resort if nothing changes here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to Alex Danvers with hatnote per Quicole above. As has been mentioned, the episode is stand-alone and is referencing the character regardless.
- JoeJShmo 💌 08:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment @
Gonnym,
Shhhnotsoloud, and
Broc: Since you all have voted, the article
Alex Danvers now includes a hatnote and cited content linking to the episode here:
Alex Danvers#Season 2 @
Mjks28 and
Jclemens: Would you all be okay with a redirect per
WP:RKEEP point 3, "
They aid searches on certain terms.
", as "Alex supergirl" is a plausible search for "Alex Danvers"? Rjjiii ( talk) 12:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)- I'm unclear how this responds to my concern. An editor using the link Alex (Supergirl) for the episode now gets a warning they added a disambiguation link to an article. If this changes to a redirect to the character, it won't happen and it might not be fixed. How is changing this to a redirect helpful? Gonnym ( talk) 12:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I still think deletion is the right choice. If the "Alex" episode had its own article it would be a different matter, but as there is no article for it, having a disambiguation page wouldn't be helpful. --
Mjks28 (
talk)
13:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's still a valid redirect given it's covered at a parent article in a significant manner. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 23:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm OK with turning the dab into a redirect if we agree there's a PRIMARYTOPIC.
Jclemens (
talk)
16:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The primary topic would be the character due to her having an article, I'd assume. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 23:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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Id Tech 2 (disambiguation)
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Unnecessary disambiguation page. "Id Tech 2" should just redirect to the topic at Id_Tech#id_Tech_2, and so this dab is not needed anymore. Natg 19 ( talk) 23:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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- delete: Id Tech 2 already redirects to Id Tech#id Tech 2, which is all we need. Pam D 07:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Joyce brothers
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The term "Joyce brothers" does not appear in any of the four brothers mentioned here. Google results for the term, even with words like "psychologist" and "doctor" removed, still return the more famous Joyce Brothers, but no James or anyone else. Should be a redirect targeted to her and labeled {{ r from miscapitalization}}, as I think that result would be far less surprising for readers (I certainly wasn't expecting it). I would oppose a hatnote as I think this is all a bit too silly to exist in any form, but if it's insisted upon then I'm willing to renege. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 09:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speaking of surprise, I was not expecting this to have been up at RfD just this month. Quite the hot button issue I suppose. Looking at that discussion, I don't think it should've been closed as early as it was, so I will argue against a procedural close of this as I think the issue is unresolved. Pinging Shhhnotsoloud, jnestorius, 162 etc., and Presidentman who participated, and * Pppery * who closed, as it's only fair if I'm going to claim this as a continuing discussion. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 09:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as per previous discussion. I am neutral on renaming to Joyce brothers (disambiguation) as long as there is a {{ redirect}} hatnote from Joyce Brothers. jnestorius( talk) 10:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I'm 100% in favour of deleting this, but opening an AfD immediately following a consensus at the RfD discussion isn't the right way to do it.
WP:MRV would be your next step.
162 etc. (
talk)
16:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- The correct venue for challenging a closure at
WP:RFD would be
WP:DRV not
WP:MRV. But I have no objection to my RfD closure being undone and the RfD relisted - looking back at it with a clearer head I agree my restore closure really doesn't properly reflect the consensus so you don't need to use any formal review processes.
* Pppery *
it has begun...
18:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Had I seen the RfD first, I would've done just that. My mistake for not doing so. Bit too late for it now, but I'm glad you're aware and hopefully it helps your process in the future. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 03:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The correct venue for challenging a closure at
WP:RFD would be
WP:DRV not
WP:MRV. But I have no objection to my RfD closure being undone and the RfD relisted - looking back at it with a clearer head I agree my restore closure really doesn't properly reflect the consensus so you don't need to use any formal review processes.
* Pppery *
it has begun...
18:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the consensus at RfD (now I've seen jnestorius's rationale). Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 18:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The fundamental question here is: will this aid readers in finding something for which they might be searching. Yes, yes it will.
BD2412
T
21:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- See, but I very much disagree with this. Sure, readers might be searching for the famous writer James Joyce and his far less famous brother, or the other two brothers, or they could (and I think far more likely are; see the page views where Dr. Brothers consistently gets hundreds of times the viewership as the brothers other than James) looking for the famous psychologist with this exact name. If we're desparate to keep this, then jnestorius' suggestion to add "(disambiguation)" might be useful, but regardless I don't see how this isn't a SURPRISE issue. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 03:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Andrey Vlasov (disambiguation)
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Disambiguation page not required ( WP:ONEOTHER). Primary topic article has a hatnote to the only other use. PROD removed by @ Salvidrim!: with edit summary "Not eligible for PROD (previous 20180419 PROD deletion contested by recreation). must use an applicable CSD criteria or XFD > Undid revision 1233186368 by Shhhnotsoloud" but 20180419 was before this page was created at 20:39, 28 August 2018. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 19:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Clarification - @ Shhhnotsoloud: yes the first revision of the current iteration of the page is 28 August 2018 but you can see it its deletion log at https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Log&page=Andrey_Vlasov_(disambiguation)&type=delete that a previous incarnation was deleted as an expired PROD 19 April 2018. Unfortunately per policy ( WP:PRODNOM), a page is no longer eligible for PROD if it was nominated (deleted or not) via PROD previously. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 20:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Unnecessary DAB. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 14:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Alphonse Joseph
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Neither of the two entries is a compound given name. Alphonse Joseph Georges has an article in the French wikipedia titled Alphonse Georges and a New York Times article about him also calls him Alphonse Georges. As for Alphonse Joseph Glorieux, his French wikipedia article is titled Alphonse Glorieux, a newspaper article refer to him the same way, [1] and his English article says "Alphonse Glorieux was born on ..." Clarityfiend ( talk) 11:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, overzealous creation of namecruft. People who type in Alphonse Joseph in the search box will have both names come up there. Geschichte ( talk) 19:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; these are partial-title matches that shouldn't be on a DAB page. Walsh90210 ( talk) 19:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and others. Not much justification for this page existing; Alphonse Joseph is for one a random given/middle name combination, not a given name as the article incorrectly states. Because of the unlikelihood of someone to be referred to by their first and middle names, such indexes are not typically created on Wikipedia, and we can see that they are indeed not referred to as "Alphonse Joseph" per the sources that nom gives. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - basically fails WP:OR, and is a useless dab. Bearian ( talk) 15:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Alex (Supergirl)
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Only one entry, Alex Danvers, has a standalone article. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 05:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete dab not needed per WP:ONEOTHER. Jclemens ( talk) 05:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or Redirect to Alex Danvers. It's hard to add a disambig hatnote to a table (list of episodes, as the other meaning is an tv show episode). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:04, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. There are clearly two topics that could be this entry. Having this lead to a disambiguation page prevents accidental links from happening as bots notify users when adding these. There is zero upsides to deleting or redirecting this. Gonnym ( talk) 06:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep this is not a case of
WP:ONEOTHER as there is no clear main topic.
Broc (
talk)
07:01, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I feel as there is as the episodes title is clearly referencing the character. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 18:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Keep, two topics. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 20:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to Alex Danvers, in the light of comments below.
- Delete: Disambiguation page only links to one article, the other is just an article where the second subject is mentioned. — Mjks28 ( talk) 03:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:ONEOTHER. The standalone article should be primary, with a hatnote being used to direct readers to the other Alex, who is only mentioned in the article body. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 18:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, per nomination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.81.183.250 ( talk) 00:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Alex Danvers and add hatnote to season page per WP:TWODABS/ WP:SIMILAR/ WP:ONEOTHER. Primary topic with only one other topic that isn't stand-alone article-worthy. – sgeureka t• c 15:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Alex Danvers. I've added coverage of the first topic (the episode "Alex") to the second topic ( Alex Danvers). [2] There is a redirect ( Alex (Supergirl episode)) that could be used for a hatnote on Alex Danvers#Season 2. I wasn't sure if it was okay to do a see also for a redirect, but it makes sense here. Rjjiii ( talk) 03:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Alex Danvers. The article now has information about the episode "Alex." This two-item disambiguation page serves no useful purpose. If not redirect, then simply delete. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 05:04, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Right now, there is no consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:11, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Alex Danvers. The only two topics are the character (who has a standalone article) and a TV show episode named after that character (which does not have a standalone article). A hatnote is definitely sufficient for dealing with the small number of people who would want to go to the list entry about the episode. QuicoleJR ( talk) 23:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, again. Arguments are almost evenly divided between those wanting to Keep the page and those advocating a Redirect (with a few Delete opinions mixed in). So, we need some more policy-based arguments or some participants reconsidering their "votes". No consensus closures tend to make all sides dissatisfied so that is the last resort if nothing changes here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to Alex Danvers with hatnote per Quicole above. As has been mentioned, the episode is stand-alone and is referencing the character regardless.
- JoeJShmo 💌 08:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment @
Gonnym,
Shhhnotsoloud, and
Broc: Since you all have voted, the article
Alex Danvers now includes a hatnote and cited content linking to the episode here:
Alex Danvers#Season 2 @
Mjks28 and
Jclemens: Would you all be okay with a redirect per
WP:RKEEP point 3, "
They aid searches on certain terms.
", as "Alex supergirl" is a plausible search for "Alex Danvers"? Rjjiii ( talk) 12:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)- I'm unclear how this responds to my concern. An editor using the link Alex (Supergirl) for the episode now gets a warning they added a disambiguation link to an article. If this changes to a redirect to the character, it won't happen and it might not be fixed. How is changing this to a redirect helpful? Gonnym ( talk) 12:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I still think deletion is the right choice. If the "Alex" episode had its own article it would be a different matter, but as there is no article for it, having a disambiguation page wouldn't be helpful. --
Mjks28 (
talk)
13:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's still a valid redirect given it's covered at a parent article in a significant manner. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 23:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm OK with turning the dab into a redirect if we agree there's a PRIMARYTOPIC.
Jclemens (
talk)
16:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The primary topic would be the character due to her having an article, I'd assume. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 23:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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