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In the article he is reported to have briefly played football for the New Orleans Saints, however his name does not appear anywhere on the their all time roster which can be found at the following link: http://www.neworleanssaints.com/assets/docs/All-Time%20Roster%20Alpha.pdf http://www.neworleanssaints.com/assets/docs/All-Time%20Roster%20Alpha.pdf. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.162.140.55 ( talk) 02:11, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Please refer to the Talk Page of this Article. This article is already being listed for deletion many times. The Article claimed that she received award from AAW which is itself not notable. Please look into the matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjoy64 ( talk • contribs) 11:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
I am James Valitchka, this page/article was made with falsified information. I am requesting it's deletion.
For verification of identity or other concerns you can contact me at [redacted] where I will facilitate further contact.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
James Valitchka — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.39.50.52 ( talk) 14:04, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
There are many good sources that say that Shlomo Sand is a controversial person. That is to say, not just his theories and books, but he himself as well. I have added the word "controversial", which I find a neutral term, to the article about him, but two other editors disagree with me and one of them removed it, [2] [3] even though I brought 4 good sources. [4] He thinks the word "controversial" "is not helpful". I came here to ask for outside input on the talkpage discussion. Debresser ( talk) 20:22, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Bob Hoffman, head men's basketball coach at Mercer University, seems to have had some defamatory information posted to his Wiki page. The errors included:
-Hoffman was removed from his position at Oklahoma University after the NCAA found him guilty of 28 violations. In truth, Hoffman was exonerated by the NCAA and head coach Kelvin Sampson was removed by the University. Hoffman was simply not retained by new head coach, Jeff Capel.
-Someone also posted to the bottom that despite his outspoken stance as a Christian, Hoffman has repeatedly violated NCAA rules and consistently is ejected from games. Both of these statements are unfounded and certainly defamatory.
Looking at the history it appears this bio is being repeatedly edited in a way which doesn't meet standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.147.149 ( talk) 09:15, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
There is a debate at Acharya S on whether her first name should be included in the article. On the subjects Facebook page, she has asked that her first name be made to "D." instead of "Dorothy." A problem with this is the use of scholarly sources that mention both her real name "Dorothy Murdock" and her pen name "Acharya S."
One example is the religion scholar Maurice Casey, [5] page 21 in his text "Jesus: Evidence and Argument or Mythicist Myths?" published by T&T Clark, where he has a consice biography of her stating her real name and her pen name. I assume this is a reliable source, to make sure I have posted on the RS Noticeboard [6]to check if this is a reliable source in this case.
Jehochman has stated that using her first name in the article is a clear violation of BLP, and that editors who place her real name into the article are also violating BLP policy. Is this correct? Thank you. Ism schism ( talk) 16:16, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Kris Jenner ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
According to the use of the Category Category:Actresses from San Diego, California and its parents Category:Actresses from California and Category:Actresses, how a person is determined to be an "actress" seems to be somewhat loosely determined. For example, Emily Ratajkowski is included, who is mostly known for her modeling and appearance in a 2013 music video. Another is Susanne Marsee, who is a singer, but had television appearances.
So is inclusion of the Category in my examples in error or is the use of it in Kris Jenner's acceptable as a subject on numerous episodes of multiple reality show series? -- Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:57, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
There is an RFC at the
talk page regarding sourced content that is being excluded from the article due to BLP concerns. Participation from uninvolved parties is needed. Thanking you in advance.
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Trinity Baptist Church (Concord, New Hampshire) was brought for discussion to the COI noticeboard over some COI issues (see here). The church itself is hardly notable; what may be notable is that a member of the church raped and impregnated a young girl who was also a member, and the pastor of the church participated in an ugly coverup and humiliation of the girl. Many years later the story came out and the now-woman went on 20/20 under her real name and told the story, and there was a trial that found the rapist guilty and the pastor resigned all his positions. Everybody's names are known (Tina Anderson is the survivor, the rapist is Ernest Willis; the pastor at the time was Chuck Phelps).
In the COIN discussion, AndyTheGrump raised the issue that the article about the church is a coatrack for discussing the crime. Andy took the position that none of it is notable and it should be deleted. Jehochman agreed with respect to the church, but found the crime potentially notable. Question for this board:
Is it normal to have a biography that's primarily concerned with attacking certain studies by an academic? Arthur Kellermann is largely a critique of a small segment of the guy's work. Is that the way we write articles about scholars? Felsic ( talk) 16:37, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Gamergate controversy ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A link to an off-wiki (likely non-RS) news site was redacted from an article talk page due to BLP concerns over comments regarding pseudonymous Wikipedia editors. I assumed the "L" and "P" in "BLP" precluded application of BLP policy to wikipedia user accounts. Was my assumption incorrect? And if so, would BLP policy apply to anonymous accounts on other sites as well? —EncyclopediaBob (talk) 19:20, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Questionable claims already discussed can be removed with a reference to the previous discussion." Since the sources is not reliable and the author's opinion is not notable I see no reason it need to remain on the talk page. BLPTALK does not mean that any and all links on talk pages are OK, that's just to easy to game. — Strongjam ( talk) 23:24, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
removing prohibited materialis permitted, WP:BLP at WP:BLPTALK explicitly allows links, and they should not be considered to be prohibited in this sense.
Michael Langone ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Langone is a proponent of the pseudoscientific theory of mind control. [1] The former American Family Foundation, headed by Langone, is described as offering the most public support for the mind-control theory through its Cultic Studies Journal. [2] The theory is seen by researchers as a propaganda device used by the anti-cult movement to rationalize the persecution of minority religious groups. [1]
References
ChrisGualtieri has removed the material above twice already (
[8], and
[9]}), with an edit summary of ".... what a farce)"
. The material is sourced to a book published by
NYU Press and an article published by the
Social Justice Research journal. Are these sources reliable for the content in question? Is this material suitable for a BLP of this person? I think so. Uninvolved editors' comments would be appreciated. -
Cwobeel
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18:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
An analysis of Jean-Marie Abgrall's cultic brainwashing theory shows that the theory is essentially identical to the pseudoscientific theory that was developed first by the American CIA as a propaganda device to combat communism, and second as an ideological device for use by the American anti-cult movement to rationalize efforts at persecution and control of minority religious groups. The CIA theory has been evaluated scientifically in research in several contexts (i.e., communist coercive indoctrination of Western prisoners, the CIA's attempted development of brainwashing techniques, and with American new religions or “cults”). In each context, it has been shown to be ineffective in coercively changing worldviews. Because of this pattern of disconfirmation, testimony based on brainwashing theory has been opposed as unscientific by relevant professional academic organizations and repeatedly excluded from American legal trials. Consequently, neither legal decisions nor public policy with respect to minority religions should be based on Abgrall's appropriation of this pseudoscientific theory. [10]
The term "cult" is often associated with a process that has been given a variety of labels, including "thought reform" (Lifton, 1961), "coercive persuasion" (Schein, 1956, 1961), "brainwashing," (Hunter, 1953), "mind control" (Langone, 1988), the "systematic manipulation of psychological and social influence" (Singer, 1983), "coordinated programs of coercive influence and behavior control" (Ofshe & Singer, 1986), and "exploitative persuasion" (Singer & Addis, 1991). (Langone, Michael (1990). "Psychotherapy Cults". Cultic Studies Journal. 7 (2): 3.)
The "Challenging Religion" source strongly supports this, without using the exact word "pseudoscience". It does quote the American Psychological Association:
the theory... 'is not accepted in the scientific community' and... 'has been repudiated by the scientific community'
and says
the brief also implied that theories of mind control... were uniformly regarded as 'not accepted in the scientific community', be they referred to as 'brainwashing', 'mind control', or - as Singer preferred... 'coercive persuasion'.
The source quotes external reviewer Jeffrey D. Fisher with
"unscientific", "biased", "sometimes... characterized by the use of deceptive, indirect techniques of persuasion and control - the very thing it is investigating", "At times the reasoning seems flawed to the point of being almost ridiculous", "...more like hysterical ramblings than a scientific report".
Fisher later goes on
"some of the most polemical, ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen anywhere, much less in the context of an APA technical report."
This all seems to support the statement that the report and its theories were/are pseudoscience and fringe. I believe we can go with the American Psychological Association as a reviewer of the theory and the book sources here and at Talk:Michael Langone as secondary source as well. -- Tgeairn ( talk) 20:58, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
The term "cult" is often associated with a process that has been given a variety of labels ... mind control...which Tgeairn acts as if Langone supports literal mind control. The actual writing and listing uses the term which has entered popular usage, but the definition Langone gives is for deceptive and manipulative emotional control of susceptible persons. As such - I take no stock in either Cwobeel's or Tgeairn's conclusions because they are in error. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 05:33, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Much of the debate is covered on the BLP talk page, including material where Langone is accused of supporting an entire task force report where nothing other than the fact he was on the task force is presented, and his individual works do not supports the claims made. And in one case, Langone specifically lists all the views held by people -- without asserting the correctness of any of them. If we say a person supports a particular view, we should use a source making that statement based on fact. Collect ( talk) 13:26, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
@ Tgeairn: I may have misunderstood the problem, if it is with the specific term "pseudoscientific theory". The Challenging Religions source applies "unscientific" in this context, correct? Doesn't that suffice until a source that uses "pseudoscientific" is found. The same objection I made about the "minority religions" probably holds, because there is a categorical shift in meaning between "unscientific" and "pseudoscientific".-- Ubikwit 連絡 見学/迷惑 14:05, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Note that in 2002 (15 years after the rejected report) the APA president stated: [15]
Which means he was promoting pseudoscience? Or is it more likely that from 1987 to 2002 some changes in opinion occurred? Collect ( talk) 17:35, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
I am related to the page subject and he has requested my help with this, but I'm new to Wikipedia and would really appreciate volunteer support.
He would like to contribute in a neutral and unbiased manner, but first could someone help clean out the frankly unkind and spurious claims?
Reasons I feel this article needs to be edited:
- Point of view is not neutral.
- Tone of a large section of article content is negative and accusatory.
- Some content is particularly libelous.
- Poorly sourced with dead links or unreliable sources.
- History of page edits indicate this has been an ongoing issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blahrgy ( talk • contribs) 09:26, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Some links to YouTube physics videos have been removed from Walter Lewin on the grounds that MIT has taken a disciplinary action against him. Apparently a 32-year-old French woman sent him a naked selfie and later complained to MIT. The full details are not known. The videos are very popular. The question is whether Wikipedia should somehow try to punish him by censoring links to the physics videos. I do not see how it is any business of WP whether he did whatever it is that he is accused of. Even if he did commit a crime, and no one is accusing him of that, I do not see that as a reason to make his physics lectures hard to access. Roger ( talk) 00:41, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Please help. Another editor has removed the physics video links in an attempt to punish him for some online remarks he allegedly made. This is censorship for an ideological purpose, and a BLP violation to blame Lewin for some dubious allegations. Roger ( talk) 22:26, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
If the article on Adolf Hitler did not have a link to Mein Kampf, then I would assume that the editors thought that he was a bad guy with very bad ideas in his book. But the links are there, and you can follow them to read the book in several languages. The world's most famous freshman physics lectures used to be on the page of 80-year-old physicist Walter Lewin, but now they are gone because ... explain it to me again? Is it because he flirted with a 32-year-old woman on the other side of the world? Is it because he failed to recognize that she had a mental disorder? Is it because he should be getting his porn from sites unrelated to physics? Is it because he is unapologetic for looking at a naked selfie? Is it because MIT decided to scapegoat him in order to avoid federal Title IX charges? Is it because MIT is blackmailing him with some sort of secret embarrassing evidence? Are these videos really worse than Mein Kampf? Roger ( talk) 01:16, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Much like the character of Antonio Salieri in the 1984 movie Amadeus some people just can't cope with the idea that a "vulgar creature" like Walter Lewin is capable of creating work that touches the sublime. A common reaction to this is to either try to silence the author or censor the work and preferably both. The emotion even heightens because Lewin has been lifted to almost god like proportions by critics in the last decade. I can't say he didn't ask for that though, because he did :-). So our ability to judge is at stake here. We misjudged. Oh boy. It might take 50 years or more before person and work can be separated to some reasonable degree, but I will try to speed things up a little: I'm not saying that proper teacher/student interaction is not an urgent and important subject to discuss. I think the fact that every educational institute has its own set of rules and there is no official legislation makes it a lot less transparent then it could be. Broaden it and look at all situations where there is to some degree an imbalance in power. Religious institutions, government officials and civilians. The case we have here is horrific in its uncontrollability. The problem has been haunting us for 3000 years and we are not getting an inch closer to a solution. Also interesting to discuss, and preferably watch in the best way possible, are the unique lectures by Lewin, every single one cultural icons that have proven themselves for half a century now. A strange combination of science and theatre that has never been created before and will never be created again. As a bonus, friend and foe agree that the lectures do an amazing job teaching people physics. Summarizing, I would prefer to separate these two discussions, even though they both fall in the category "Walter Lewin" which we (well, you) are writing a Wikipedia page for. Kind regards Daniel Dekkers ( talk) 14:29, 24 February 2015 (UTC) (Sorry for my English, it is not my first language)
Hello Wikipedia Administrators,
I have been trying to work on an article for awhile. It was removed as it was apparently not notable. I am not fully aware of Biographies on Wikipedia and how they work. If someone can please visit - User:DmitryPopovRU/Alex_Gilbert. Please do not take it down but please give me advice and how I can grow this article. I am sure these references are notable, it is not also for a so called ONE EVENT problem that was brought up before. All I am asking is simply.. Is this article notable and why not? and what can be improved.
Thank You! Dmitry -- DmitryPopovRU ( talk) 05:34, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi! Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) and thanks for your reply! I deleted it because It was apparently not notable and all I need is an experienced editor to have a look at the article and help me work on it. I have put it here User:DmitryPopovRU/sandbox. They mentioned that he should't be noted as a camera operator. Though the references are notable for other things how can I make this article relevant and that will work with the way its written? Please help if you can or tag someone who can help improve this! — Preceding undated comment added 10:03, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Can someone please have a look and help with the article here User:DmitryPopovRU/sandbox ? Thank You! -- DmitryPopovRU ( talk) 09:00, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Tanana, Alaska ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
About ten months ago, Scott Johnson and Gabriel Rich of the Alaska State Troopers were killed when responding to an incident in this community. As I had noticed a trend in general in our coverage of law enforcement of giving undue weight to deaths of officers in the line of duty, I started a thread on the talk page, as I felt the article is far too weighted towards coverage of that incident. I abandoned that discussion, as it seemed as though I was being goaded into an endless series of pointless back-and-forth, when I may perhaps have better things to do with my life. Revisiting the article and discussion today, something occurred to me: are we violating BLP by making the references we're making to the father and son who were charged with crimes in connection with this killing, but at this point have yet to be convicted of anything? RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 03:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Someone has made some very opiniated and ibelious comments, especially in the "Controversies" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.199.107.254 ( talk) 14:45, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
It is untrue that Bill Cowsill (William Joseph Cowsill) suffered from heroin addiction. As a matter of fact he hated heroin. He was sometimes known to use pain medication pharmaceutical drugs. His pain was physical from a car accident. He had quit alcohol at approximately 40 years old. I lived with him as his girlfriend for years. I hope you will correct this mistake. Sincerely, Joanna E. Ussner. Thank you for your time.
I commented on the following pasted comment below some time ago but notice the wiki comments have not been corrected. I apologize that I don't know how this process works exactly, but what is posted is incorrect regarding our relocation to Tennessee, Diane attending Belmont and the cartoon incident at the Tennessee State Legislature as regards "approporiate" punishment....all of which can be independently verified if anyone wishes to report accurately.
Thank you very much. Dave Black 2/23/2015
Diane and I moved from Baltimore, Maryland to Nashville, Tennessee in July of 1986 as I joined the faculty of Vanderbilt University. Diane attended Belmont after we moved here and graduated in 1991 with her BS in Nursing. The statement that we moved to Tennessee so she could attend Belmont is not correct and we did not relocate in 1985 as stated.
As a second issue, Diane's staffer who forwarded the Presdient Obama email is not a racist. She forwarded an email that was circulating among staffers at the legislature. Although a mistake the assistant is by no definition a racist and she was disciplined as required by Human Resources policies at the legislature. Although I respect the right of individuals to express opinions I suspect none of the individuals expressing such harsh opinions have ever met Diane or her assistant. Opinions are not necessarily facts and I appreciate the narrative shown that has attempted to at least place this incident into a factual context.
Dave Black — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.210.11.123 (talk) 18:34, 21 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.216.103 ( talk)
Vic Dibitetto ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I'd appreciate some extra eyes on Vic Dibitetto, where I'm in dispute with an SPA over the use of youtube and facebook sources in this comedians' BLP. Stuartyeates ( talk) 20:30, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
While people are stating that he was a mobster, the mob would never allow a non-Italian to enter its higher ranks. John Alite could not have been John Gotti, Jr's associate.
Even the jury that tried John Gotti, Jr stated that Alite was a non-credible witness. His testimony was ripped to shreds by Gotti, Jr's attornies. I just thought I would throw this out there so that further review into who and what John Alite really is, could be done. It is more apt that John Alite was just a petty associate who was looking to get out of jail time, or rise into fame, than actually a partner with John Gotti, Jr.
I would suggest reading In My Father's Shadow and possibly looking into the court records from the trial where Alite tried to persuade the jury he was a partner, to find the truth about who he was. — Preceding
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172.243.171.66 (
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Would some others please watch Ankit Love. A user has spent a considerable time editing the article to include outlandish claims such as him being a King of Jammu and Kashmir. The article before they got to it was a decent article on an Indian singer. The user previously uploaded severely personal material on the subject that were subject to Oversight so I am concerned about what else may be buried in all the puffery. Here is a diff between the two versions [24]. JBH ( talk) 12:22, 25 February 2015 (UTC) I should have notified other user pinging @ योजनबुद्ध:. JBH ( talk) 13:44, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
why does her biography not mention one of her first shows....Inside Herman's Head??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.51.209.242 ( talk) 22:14, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
i feel that the article does not meet the standards of the biographies of living persons requirements for tone and possibly balance. some parts read like a resume introduction and do not sound as informative as much as they sound (what's the word?) ruminative or quixotic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.120.71.2 ( talk) 02:51, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
There is a debate at Acharya S on whether her first name should be included in the article. On the subjects Facebook page, she has asked that her first name be made to "D." instead of "Dorothy." A problem with this is the use of scholarly sources that mention both her real name "Dorothy Murdock" and her pen name "Acharya S."
One example is the religion scholar Maurice Casey, [25] page 21 in his text "Jesus: Evidence and Argument or Mythicist Myths?" published by T&T Clark, where he has a consice biography of her stating her real name and her pen name. This is a reliable source, to make sure I have posted on the RS Noticeboard [26]
Which do we emphasize, the multiple reliable sources that state her first name, or her desire that her first name not appear on Wikipedia? Thank you. Ism schism ( talk) 21:09, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Not a violation, but the actual name is: Suzanne Preston Blier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clerkp ( talk • contribs) 06:26, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
This article has just received a major edit, previous edits of this size have usually been by people with a COI. Could someone look at the large additions that its received today, and the article as a whole please. Biography articles are not my strong suit. Thanks - X201 ( talk) 16:11, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Avigdor Kahalani ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Please correct the following:
During the first day of the 6 day war Avigdor Kahalani was severely injured in his tank which was a Patton tank M-48 and not a Centurion. Our unit of the 79th battalion, 7th brigade, where I was a tank commander was all composed of Patton M-48 with exception of one platoon which had modified M-48 and was under the command of captain Shalom Angel. Avigdor Kahalani was my commander at that time and a captain of the unit.
Sincerly,
Stefan Uri Pienkny Served in the tank core from 1965 to 1968 and later during the Yom Kippur War. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.172.119.42 ( talk) 21:33, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Article is inaccurate and biased. Just compare it with this article in the NY Times. I would not be comfortable fixing it because she used to work for me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/nyregion/report-on-martha-stark-ex-finance-chief-details-misconduct-accusations.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.58.104.170 ( talk) 20:43, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
[33] is being used in Project for the New American Century for the following:
We now know that a blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice-president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), Jeb Bush (George Bush's younger brother) and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences, was written in September 2000 by the neoconservative think tank, Project for the New American Century (PNAC).
The people named appear to be living persons, and the claim appears to be contentious when presented as a claim of fact. Ought this be reworded to properly state it purely as an opinion of Meacher, rather than as his presentation of a fact? Mt. Meacher is well-known for his belief in the 9/11 Conspiracy theories. [34] NPR: The former UK environment minister Michael Meacher, a leading "disturbing question" figure on the edges of the 9/11 Truth movement, was never a member of the British Cabinet, but in a radio interview on the U.S. syndicated Alex Jones Show was referred to as the "former number three in the Blair government. [35] WSJ The former U.K. junior environment minister Michael Meacher, a leading "disturbing question" figure on the edges of the 9/11 Truth movement, [36] Telegraph Experienced professionals know that this was a state sponsored inside job by the US regime; 2 NATO ministers from Germany (Minister for Technoloy Andreas von Bulow) and UK minister Michael Meacher and former Italian President Francesco Cossiga) all confirmed publicly that the 9/11 event was an inside job perpetrated by the US regime. etc. all seem to suggest that his claims of fact might not be so considered by some others. Collect ( talk) 21:03, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
The article by Meacher which is being cited for the single out-of-context paragraph is subtitled: The 9/11 attacks gave the US an ideal pretext to use force to secure its global domination and starts with
Is it reasonable to add the various conspiracy theory categories to an article which uses this as a "reliable source"? Collect ( talk) 15:38, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Please note that
there's an RFC up on the talk page of this article now. So far just three people slinging the same arguments back and forth at each other, it could definitely use some input from uninvolved parties.
Fyddlestix (
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15:51, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
At Danny Kirwan, an editor recently added information about the subject's birth name and early family history. I removed it twice as unsourced, and he very quickly responded with this [38] citing birth and marriage records and random "school records". Is this stuff considered reliable? I wouldn't trust this edit as far as I could (metaphorically) throw it. Bretonbanquet ( talk) 12:15, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Marwan Koukash (
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From what I understand, the subject of the article identifies himself as being born in
Palestine. For example, see this interview.
http://www.totalrl.com/jjb-meets-marwan-koukash/
There appears to be a long history of the first sentence of the article being changed backwards and forwards between "born
Israel" and "born
Palestine". One IP editor,
58.7.65.162, has changed it to Israel 5 times over the last 4 days. I have changed it back to Palestine three times, and another user
Dr.Steve88 has changed it back once.
The IP user's position, as noted on their talk page (and copied to the
article's talk page), is that "Palestine is not a sovereign nation and the land is Israel". This appears to take the issue into an argument not about where Marwan Koukash was born, but an argument about the existence of Palestine as a state. That is something I do not want to waste my time arguing about.
I am raising this issue here because I think it is a question of the
Verifiability aspect of the BLP policy. However, I have also discovered this morning the existence of restrictions on the topic, described at
Wikipedia:ARBPIA. So if there is a more appropriate place to raise this issue, please let me know.
AtHomeIn神戸 (
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Bon Yeon and, to a lesser extent, Soenghyang are having gross BLP violations added. Ladyof Shalott 17:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
The creation of the JHU CTY summer program in Computer Science was previously misattributed to Curtis. It is not clear how to correct this misstatement other than to remove it. On the other hand Curtis had enormous influence on the program subsequent to its creation, and created new classes of his own as well as improved classes that had been previously created. I don't wish to start a war, or to deprive anyone of proper credit, but it is not clear how best to handle the situation. At present the statement pertaining to CTY is accurate, but perhaps does not adequately reflect Curtis's influence.
The CTY CS summer program was created by Joseph L. Bates, then of Cornell University, and Robert Harper, then a graduate student at Cornell. It was subsequently developed by Robert Harper working together with Gilbert Neiger and the late Rick Palmer before Curtis became involved in the program. His influence from then on was outsized and deserving of proper recognition, but it is not proper to attribute the creation of the program to him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarioDenobili ( talk • contribs) 19:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
The entry cites two conflicting birth dates.
birth_date= Rabor
11 March 1955 and then later Soleimani was born 12 March 1957 in the villageDave Lee Travis It seems like a repeat discussion as above , The same user User:JJARichardson has created the group Criminals from Derbyshire - with only two people that he has included and added Dave lee Travis to https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Dave_Lee_Travis&diff=prev&oldid=646872374 - Travis has only a conviction of three months in prison suspended for two years - is he worthy and are others convicted of similar minors crimes with minor convictions be allowed to be added to these criminal groups? Govindaharihari ( talk) 08:13, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Lobbied for the School Access to Emergency Epinephrine Act signed into law by Obama in November, and praised uniformly by news reports.
This edit was just made: [39] with the edit summary hmm -- seems like there's no consensus to add this material
The material is strongly sourced, neutral in tone, notable, was on the talk page for discussion since 22 Feb, with not a single opposing statement. Is the material notable enough for the BLP?
One editor insists the material should not be in because she did it to get a "huge government purchase program" since schools will have to get the epinephrine autoinjectors in order to actually be able to save lives. Fortune [40] states: recently helped the School Access to Emergency Epinephrine Act, which will both boost Mylan’s profits and save children’s lives, get signed into law. which does not appear to me to have her be only interested in money.
Is this material which should properly be in her BLP? Note that she was standing behind the president at the signing. [41] [42] Bloomberg noted "At least three companies including Mylan of Canonsburg, Pennsylvania, make devices to deliver the drug epinephrine. Mylan estimates gaining access to schools could help expand its customer base to as many as 28 million from 2.6 million now. ... To raise awareness, the company last year started giving away EpiPens to schools that request the devices."
[43] NYT: Disturbingly, a significant portion of severe allergic reactions at school occur among students with no prior allergy diagnosis. During the 2012-13 school year, of the 38 people in Chicago public schools who were injected with undesignated EpiPens provided through the EpiPen4Schools program, 21 did not previously know they had an allergy. (The youngest student was 3, the oldest was 19, and two recipients were school staff members.) As a nurse at the office of my family’s allergy doctor has said to me repeatedly, “Anyone can develop an allergy to anything at any time.”
Those of us in allergic families know that being directly affected by allergies isn’t a requirement for compassion; the world, thank goodness, is populated by many sympathetic individuals. Still, it’s not hard to find people who are hostile and disbelieving toward allergies. I suspect that the most vociferous antagonists of the allergic community won’t understand just what it’s like to live with allergies unless they themselves or someone close to them develops them, but I hope, for their sakes, that these people are blessed with the luxury of maintaining their skepticism. If they’re not, I also hope that safeguards such as the School Access to Emergency Epinephrine Act are firmly in place to protect them and the people they love.
I for some odd reason consider this notable and notable enough for inclusion in the BLP. Other opinions? (Other than"they will make money which is why they gave away a lot of injectors" or the like. Collect ( talk) 21:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Not really a content dispute, because any edit Collect made would have probably been reverted, regardless of what the edit actually is. The two eds have accused me of inappropriate COI conduct and canvassing (a behavioral, not content issue). I have accused them of possibly colluding together. [44] Most content discussions on this page devolve into NOTBUREAU issues and an impossible barrier of undeniable consensus to add sourced content. Also, at-a-glance (and I only skimmed briefly) the problems on this page seem to be representative of a generally combative editing pattern. All behavioral, not content issues, unfortunately. CorporateM ( Talk) 22:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Philip Benedict ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is an academic's biography with a single reliable independent source mentioning Benedict, severe tone issues promoting Benedict, and an IP editor, apparently a student of Benedict, reverting every attempt to fix or even to point out the article's issues, claiming that Benedict's CV, published by his employer, is an independent source. More attention would be welcome. Huon ( talk) 23:50, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
It is not a single source. It uses many sources. Very few of them are written by Benedict. It appears that Huon has a history of conflict based on the Jeff Smisek ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) page with the person who originally authored the page. Now he has taken his anger here to vandalized a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:341b:f2e0:9577:4aab:113a:aec7 ( talk) 00:03, February 27, 2015 (UTC)
Hi there. So this article is a BLP with 3 sentences. One of those sentences details the subject's child pornography conviction. I'm completely unfamiliar with the topic and generally don't work with BLPs, but I just reviewed an AN3 report about a newbie editor who was edit-warring to remove the sentence about the conviction because: " Distress is being caused with this page, respectfully ask for deletion and thanks from those affected". I semi-protected the page in its previous state to cease the edit-warring, although the editor's plea does not seem unreasonable to me and is cause for some concern in my opinion. I'm not sure what exactly they mean by distress, but given the state of this article, I'm concerned that having one of the three sentences describing the subject explain his child porn conviction might be a WP:BALASPS/ WP:UNDUE problem. Wanted to get some additional feedback on this. Swarm X 23:24, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
I am the author of the original article I have tried my best to be as neutral when writing about the subject as the only noteworthy mainstream sources are notably about his conviction. I would write more about his karate tournament success if I could but martial tournaments are very niche interests so are not going to get a lot of coverage especially decades prior to early 2000's. Dwanyewest ( talk) 00:06, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
On 1996 shelling of Qana#Shelling of UN compound there is a lengthy paragraph about Naftali Bennett having a large share of the cause to the tragedy that caused the death of 106 Lebanese civilians.
The reporter who started the allegation recanted his statement (available only in Hebrew).
The paragraph is WP:DUE but I believe it is still libelous especially considering the recanting. A short discussion took place on the talk page. I think it should be remove according to WP:BLPGOSSIP and WP:BLPCRIME but since I am not super familiar with the WP:BLP policy, I hoped an experienced editor can give it a look.
Thanks, Ashtul ( talk) 00:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Judith Godreche is a female actress of Jewish Birth and ancestry who is not listed under the title of actors in the articles about Jewish citizens of France. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.172.209.41 ( talk) 22:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
A new study on volcanoes and CO2 was just released by Columbia University.
The Plimer BLP had:
The new study is at [45]( Science Daily) which is a secondary reliable source for the original report at Geophysical Research Letters which also meets RS. It states: The findings suggest that models of earth's natural climate dynamics, and by extension human-influenced climate change, may have to be adjusted. The study appears this week in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.
Should the new material which does not refer to Plimer by name be used, noting that the other reports also do not mention him by name? Or should we stick only with the 2011 report? Collect ( talk) 22:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
There seems to be a couple of single purpose accounts doing some muckraking/neutralizing here, versus an editor with an admitted COI. I removed a bit of the immediately apparent worst, but noticed I'd left a bunch. More eyes, maybe? InedibleHulk (talk) 21:02, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
While I'm sure they do excellent work, after stumbling across this article it's pretty clear that they wrote it themselves and almost all of the footnotes reference stuff they've written themselves elsewhere.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.61.244 ( talk • contribs)
Nick Griffin ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nick_Griffin&diff=646793119&oldid=646333056
the question I want to ask is does Griffin belong in these groups? Is he a noteworthy criminal from London and is he only one of two noteworthy criminals from Suffolk? - the other one being a footballer who got a sentence of four and a half years in prison for rape - Griffin has only received a nine month sentence that was a suspended sentence given for - In 1998, Griffin was convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to the offence of 'publishing or distributing racially inflammatory written material' in issue 12 of The Rune, published in 1996.? /info/en/?search=Category:Criminals_from_Suffolk Is he really for this crime one of only 22 noteworthy criminals from London, this list which includes mass murderers and famous gangsters /info/en/?search=Category:Criminals_from_London ? I have now linked the user that added these groups to the article and I have decided it's important and so I have removed the groups from Griffin as disputed while discussion occurs, The basic question is, can or should anyone that has been convicted of a minor offence be added to these criminal groups? Griffin is in this group, which I don't oppose at all - I see a lot of missing names there, please assist to expand that group, there are many missing /info/en/?search=Category:British_politicians_convicted_of_crimes Govindaharihari ( talk) 07:08, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Note: "criminals" is defined as a "sensitive category" per WP:COP#Sensitive and WP:BLPCAT. In the case at hand, the use of the category is,IMO, used more to discredit a person as being of poor character than anything else, and is thus improper. Collect ( talk) 14:34, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Dean Jones is my father. I'm the youngest of Dean and Mae's two daughters. My step-brother Michael Pastick, is 3 years older than my older sister Carol and is Lory's son from a previous marriage. Dean and wife Lory never had a child together. I love my step-brother, but he is not my blood brother. Just trying to set the record straight. Please change this on the bio. Thank you, Deanna Jones Demaree I'm not sure what proof I have, ie references. Look it up. It's in Dean's book... " Under Running Laughter" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dean's daughter ( talk • contribs) 07:43, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Ephraim Padwa ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Hi, as a wikinewbie not sure whether this should be brought up here but there seems to be a bit of a wikiedit war going on between a couple of wikieditors with this article Ephraim Padwa. a look at the revision history shows edits being entered then reverted with no reason given. can someone look into this? thanks:) Coolabahapple ( talk) 01:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
It is inappropriate to re-add this infomation without expansion. Chesdovi ( talk) 16:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
The entry under this section reads that "Jack Joyner-Kersee... died after an exploding salmon was thrown at her." This is fictitious. She actually won a bronze medal in the long lump. http://www.biography.com/people/jackie-joyner-kersee-9358710#olympic-star — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.89.130.54 ( talk • contribs) 15:49, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure how exactly to deal with this, so. I'm wondering if that controversy section should be there at all when it describes (in length) certain rumors about people which we've not written about in the articles of those persons themselves (and shouldn't because it would appear to be WP:BLP violation). I'd blank it completely, is that wrong? Or should those two controversies be written about in a different way? — Jeraphine Gryphon ( talk) 15:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello. Can someone please protect David H. Murdock to prevent further violations of WP:BLP, WP:OR, and WP:BLPPRIMARY (see the edit history)? 137.110.48.116 ( talk) 19:24, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
The article has many flaws. It does not meet notability guideline for biographies. Firstly, it uses self-published sources. The article uses person's own website as a reference source. The "Other achievements" section praises the person using his own website as a reference source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bollywoodan ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Rudyard Kipling wrote The Jungle Books at his home near Brattleboro, Vermont, in the 1890s, not at Browns Hotel in the early 1900s, although Browns was a favorite place for him to stay. I wrote the book Rudyard Kipling in Vermont, published in the 1990s.
Best wishes,
Stuart A.P. Murray Berlin, New York — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.209.21.253 ( talk) 01:39, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Gamergate controversy ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Another link was redacted [47] from the Gamergate talk page with the stated reason that other articles on the site violate BLP, and while this article does not appear to, the redacting editor " didn't really want to have to trawl through the extensive comments" to confirm. [48]
Previously I asked [49] whether a BLP-violating article could be cited for its compliant, non-BLP material. That discussion has yet to reach a conclusion, partly it seems because my question is general and the answer depends on specifics. Here we have specifics - and they address an even broader question: can a BLP-complaint article be linked to, when the site hosting it contains BLP-violating material.
The answer is important whether or not the redacted article is usable since that question can't be asked without linking the article. —EncyclopediaBob (talk) 18:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
do we bar all links from a given site if that site has a reputation for BLP violations?Not sure I have an answer to that, but that seems to be the thinking behind this link's removal. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{ re}} 19:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page, and requires
any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be explicitly attributed to a reliable, published source. If we are not actually adding contentious material to Wikipedia there is no violation. As a logical consequence, sources do not inherently (in & of themselves) violate WP:BLP.
I think we do need to bar all links from an attack site that contains BLP violations, even if the singular landing page itself doesn't contain BLP violations. Further, I question that a site which has content that violates BLP is being used or proposed to being used by editors as if it were a Reliable Source, when it clearly is not. Dreadstar ☥ 20:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
adding information about living personsto Wikipedia that sources do not inherently (in & of themselves) violate WP:BLP. Regarding sources as containing BLP violations or violating BLP is a fundamental misapprehension of policy, which leads to its misapplication.
Are you seriously suggesting that any editor who posts a link to a web site that contains a BLP violation should be banned? Does that include CBS News? Because I can post such a link. And you can ban me. It would have nothing to do with Gamergate, but the freedom to discuss the reliability of a source should not be compromised. Honestly, I've had enough of this zero-tolerance atmosphere. If we as editors are not allowed to discuss the reliability of websites on Wikipedia, then WP:V is dead. And if WP:V is dead, then where is Wikipedia? A Quest For Knowledge ( talk) 22:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
nurses who treat their patients without care.nurses often get angry with patients when they asked to assist they are sometimes heart less with people it.s not our fault they dont enjoy their jobs for ill patients sometimes when you waiting for help they wont come to assist you and ask whats the issue even if the issue is serious they dont care — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.236.168.223 ( talk) 13:39, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
This is a short BLP stub about a Indian university head who is currently involved in a local scandal. He's not really A7 worthy, I wouldn't think, but I'm not sure he's truly notable beyond the current scandal. The stub appears to exist mostly because of the scandal. Maybe it's A10 worthy, maybe it can be cleaned up/expanded so that the scandal isn't the core of the article. I'm personally unsure of what to do with it, but I know that it's problematic as-is. - TexasAndroid ( talk) 16:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
I think it's pretty clear what the issue is here. If you could just revert the article to how it appeared before the most recent edit I would appreciate it.
"Wiesel was born the 21st of Nyestember 0021 A.C.C, Franks Apartment (now Sighetu Marmației), Maramureș,[6] Romania,[6] in the Carpathian Mountains. His parents were Frank and Safari Man. At home Wiesel's family spoke Chromosomian most of the time, but also Chinese.[7][8] Wiesel's mother, Safari Man, was the daughter of Chin Chin, a celebrated Vizhnitz Hasid and farmer from a nearby village. Chin Chin was active and trusted within the community. In the early years of his life, Chin Chin had spent a few months in jail for having helped Polish Jews who escaped and were hungry.
Wiesel's father, Frank, instilled a strong sense of humanism in his son, encouraging him to learn Chromosomian and to read literature, whereas his mother encouraged him to study the Torah. Wiesel has said his father represented reason while his mother Sarah promoted faith.[9]
Wiesel had three siblings – older brothers Salamander man and B0ss, and younger brother Prometheus. B0ss and Salamander Man survived the war and were reunited with Wiesel at a French orphanage. They eventually emigrated to North America, with B0ss moving to Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Prometheus, Frank, and Safari Man survived the Lycra Holocaust the Holocaust."
I was just reading this article the other day and happen to know that his siblings names are not Salamander man and B0ss, and Chinese was not the language most spoken in his household. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.64.110.82 ( talk) 17:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Can I have some more eyes on this article and a second opinion. I am on my second revert and will not revert again.
RebeccaTheAwesomeXD ( talk · contribs) with a long history of warnings for adding unsourced or poorly sourced dates of birth to BLPs, has been repeatedly adding an exact DoB to Mary-Jean O'Doherty with no source, although she has claimed on my talk page, that she got it from this web page. That page is from a website that is based in Russia, is not the official Eurovision website, and uses information "gathered from fans around the world". It is not a reliable source for a biography of a living person. I can find no other source for this date and it appears in none of her official biographies. There is also the issue of privacy in including a full DoB, especially a potentially spurious one. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:39, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Ahmad Givens died a couple of weeks ago, apparently at age 33. One source does say 35 years old, but even its URL has the number 33 in it, which makes me think they know something we, and those other sources, don't. In addition, two single purpose accounts have tried to change it to 35, so there might be something to this. The article is Real Chance of Love, and Ahmad Givens is currently a redirect to the television show. Thanks. :> Eddymason ( talk) 15:30, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Merwin Coad is my maternal biological grandfather, and my maternal biological grandmother, his second wife, was Carol Faye Farnsworth, not Peters.She is a relative of the inventor Philo T. Farnsworth, who designed and built the first all electronic working television system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.44.9.185 ( talk) 21:57, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
The autobiography by Denis Avey, The Man who Broke into Auschwitz, is undergoing some edit warring. Please see talk page regarding guidelines possibly being undermined. Other opinions would be useful.-- Light show ( talk) 01:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
His comments are publicized, but are they worth being added to the article? -- George Ho ( talk) 11:00, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
The Bio on Sherry Lansing claims she was the first Female Studio head. I believe that Lucille Ball was the First, after buying out Desi Arnez to become the presedent of desilu. Thank You Joseph C — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.119.246.162 ( talk) 13:14, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Insults Meredith when talking about the Meredith Viera show, referring to her as a racist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B843:4CE0:CD34:EE6A:91B1:E020 ( talk) 08:55, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello! I've been dealing with a BLP sourcing issue on Jordis Unga, but before I violate the 3RR I decided to bring it here. It deals with this edit (and ones following it) where I have removed content from the page and an IP ( 98.193.95.34) has reverted my changes, I revert back, and then I reverted the revert, and the IP reverted back. That's where we stand at the time of this post. The controversy is about the subject of the article allegedly not carrying out her duties to her campaign on kickstarter, but the citation is the comment on the kickstarter campaign, which only contains comments made by donors with no official statements of explanations whatsoever. I believe this is a clear violation of BLP policy, being that it's controversial material with what appears to be a very unreliable and extremely biased source. I left this message at the user's talk page, but it was promptly removed by the IP. Please advise. Kharkiv07 ( talk) 16:10, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
To whom it may concern,
This story has recently hit some of the news sources throughout our country not as many as I would have hoped. I have noticed as of today that a team or at least a few have been scrubbing his Wiki page. I have done so with my own eyes. Why this is important is that the facts are that he is still making laws, he still has a school all of which pertain to children. He is now hiding the fact that he is more culpable than what it was showing and that the crime was more than just diddling. It also does not include the fact that he has been using all but 6% of taxpayers money to fund his Christian school. This is very distressing that he can create his own picture en-light of what the news has worked so hard to get out there. I would ask that you look at Arkansas Times, Wonkette, Raw Story and Time. Thank you for your eyes, Anna Hoffmann 104.229.10.241 ( talk) 22:32, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Andrulla Blanchette ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Persistent edits by a possible COI account, primarily removing sourced content for unsourced content they prefer. I've reported to AIV, but in the dearth of response this continues, and I've no desire to edit war. Help would be appreciated. 2602:302:D89:A9C9:84E6:720C:31CA:6D3 ( talk) 03:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
The Daily Caller#Controversies needs attention from someone more familiar with BLP issues than I. There is sufficient RS coverage of TDC's involvement in this scandal about Bob Menendez that it warrants coverage in our TDC article. What I'm stuck on is how to do this while protecting Menendez's BLP rights. -- Dr. Fleischman ( talk) 21:03, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
P.S. I'm having second on whether there should be any coverage of this in the TDC article at all. -- Dr. Fleischman ( talk) 21:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Chip Coffey ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Content on this page may be legally considered libelous and appears to be posted solely for the purpose of defaming Chip Coffey. No rebuttal information has been posted on this page. 2601:0:AB80:1BF:C806:F517:7383:FC21 ( talk) 23:40, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
this is not the place for a draft article, please see
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Munya Mataruse is a Norton based musician born in Chegutu on the 22nd of January. Music Description: Afro Fusion , Shangara. He runs a Five piece band Kazevezeve( meaning the Whisper) Can perform solo performances or band performances Deputations are : Munyaradzi Mataruse( Acoustic Guitar/ vocals), Alice Muringayi (backing vocals), Simbarashe Navaya (Bass Guitar), Watson Jnr Chidzomba (Drums), and Tari “G-Fingers” Mufari (Guitar) . He formed the band in 2005 by at Pakare Paye Arts Centre which is an arts organization formed and is managed by Oliver Mtukudzi. His music is a unique blend of styles ranging from Afro Jazz, Katekwe, Shangara and Jiti (the local traditional Zimbabwean genres). His sound is recognizable with intensely catchy Zimbabwean melodies and smooth vocals. With the help from Pakare Paye Arts Centre he managed to do numerous performances to school based audiences, weddings, community galas, birthday parties, festivals namely: Harare Jazz Festival, Victoria Falls Jazz Festival, Hifa 2010 (solo), Winter Jazz Festival, Ottawa Jazz Festival, Umoja Flying Cultural Carpet and local concerts at different venues.While still taking every opportunity to gigs the band recorded its two albums Denguremhodzi and Pashangara under TUKUMUSIC/ PAKARE PAYE label.Website: www.reverbnation/munyamataruse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Munyamats ( talk • contribs) 10:38, 10 March 2015 (UTC) |
This article was listed here a week or two ago, and not much has improved (if anything, situation is worse). It has been yo-yoing back and forth between a version that is very critical of the subject, a version that is quite positive towards him, and a stubbed version that (I think?) was supposed to be some kind of interim solution. There are multiple COI'd (by their own admission) editors involved and one or two accounts who only seem to edit this article but haven't declared a COI.
I've been trying to keep an eye on it but could use some advice/help - most recently someone tried to blank the entire page, and then started pasting in old content in plain text (without markup), so quite a mess. @ Jytdog: was doing a pretty good job of it for a while but I think they've un-followed the article after this exchange on the talk page.
I'm not sure how this sort of situation is usually managed, so some help/advice would be very welcome. Fyddlestix ( talk) 01:13, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
probably should correct as there is no cure as of yet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C:4B80:1FD:7002:F934:4773:4096 ( talk) 04:33, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
1. Wikipedia notability criteria not met. 2. Too soon. Achievements mentioned are either from top tier of relatively unknown events / lower skill tier of well known events. Kukurukuku ( talk) 11:52, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Under "feats" is listed a squat of 300kg. This has no source and is almost definitely false - at 54kg the world record is 290kg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.2.31 ( talk) 00:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Incredibly biased article. Reads like a glowing biography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.246.61.190 ( talk) 06:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello. User:Catflap08 keeps deleting reliably sourced information using a primary source that doesn't even say what Catflap alleges it does.
Background: Daisaku Ikeda and the Soka Gakkai were excommunicated from Nichiren Shōshū in November 1991. Multiple sources (including one from the Japanese Journal of Religious Studies) currently on the page back this up.
Catflap is removing the "and the Soka Gakkai" portion of this equation, making it look like Daisaku Ikeda was singled out for excommunication. He wasn't. The entire organization was excommunicated. The source Catflap is using is purportedly the Nichiren Shōshū's official website [53] But that source itself states the following:
After excommunicating the Soka Gakkai organization, Nichiren Shoshu made continuous efforts to guide compassionately the Gakkai members back to the correct path of faith and practice. For a period of six years after the excommunication, individual Gakkai members who had received Gojukai from Nichiren Shoshu in the past were still recognized as Nichiren Shoshu lay believers. Nichiren Shoshu, however, could not continue with this situation, where a Gakkai member who follows Daisaku Ikeda qualifies as a Nichiren Shoshu lay believer. Nichiren Shoshu doctrine strictly prohibits its laity to hold membership in other religious organizations. On September 30, 1997, Nichiren Shoshu officially decided to terminate the membership of the Gakkai followers. After Nichiren Shoshu extensively notified the Gakkai members of this decision through its in-house publication and other means, the provision that all Gakkai members would lose their standing as Nichiren Shoshu lay believers went into effect on December 1, 1997. Emphasis added.
Not only does the primary source not refute what was on the page, it actually supports it. As I said on the talk page: Soka Gakkai was excommunited in 1991, but individual members were still recognized as lay believers. Six years later, in 1997, the recognition was revoked. When I pointed this out, Catflap's retort was "I was there at the excommunication." While that does raise wp:COI questions, I still don't see where that supports his biased edit to the BLP.
Here's a link to the Talk page, with more info: [54] AbuRuud ( talk) 20:11, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Abusive behavior is typical of Catflap08. He reverted my edits to the Daisaku Ikeda article in January, even though my contributions were well researched and properly sourced. Catflap08 continually insisted that false and libelous information stay in the BLP about Daisaku Ikeda even though all sources showed it was false and libelous, including the sources Catflap08 himself referenced. Catflap08 refused to allow proper edits and, after being confronted by other users, Catflap08 started a dispute resolution in which he mischievously never named me / never notified me, even though my edits started the dispute. Only at the end of the noticeboard discussion did someone else add me to it out of courtesy, and ultimately the libelous falsehood was removed (although there's still lots of false information in the text that Catflap08 insists on maintaining).
Catflap08 has repeatedly admitted bias against Daisaku Ikeda and Soka Gakkai-related topics, and as such should be banned from continually reverting the proper edits of others to suit his own agenda. Catflap08 is the cause of nearly every Talk Page dispute related to Daisaku Ikeda and the Soka Gakkai. It appears that Catflap08 feels ownership over these topics, against which he has an axe to grind, and his antagonistic behavior shows he is determined to stop anyone else from improving the articles too. His ongoing Wikihounding antics and long-standing biased behavior should qualify Catflap08 for TBAN from Daisaku Ikeda and Soka Gakkai-related articles, and perhaps from all BLPs on Wikipedia. Elemential1 ( talk) 17:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Even though I have announced my retirement on my talk page. Also due to issues like this one and dealing with editors with a … well what should I say … a problem? On a final note please excuse my foul language but saying that Ikeda was excommunicated along with SG/SGI is simply bullshitting – sorry again. Call it excommunication (a term I find irritating to be used in a Buddhist concept) or expulsion. I myself am by no means a reliable source but I was an adherent of Gakkai at the time – not any more thank goodness. In 1991/92 it was Ikeda and the Gakkai leadership that were expelled, excluded, excommunicated or what have you from Nichiren Shoshu. In effect that means they were not allowed to enter the high temple grounds. It was not until 1997 that the complete Gakkai membership i.e. the Norman Normal Gakkai member were also not allowed to enter temple grounds. I admit that to the willing flock of Gakkai adherents it was always portrayed as that we all since the early 90’s lost our standing as Nichiren Shoshu adherents but it was not until 1997 that there was an official seal to that --- which at the time came as a surprise since we were all cut off from official temple information anyway. So concerning the wording it might be a good idea to use the term regarded as adherents of … as from 1991/92 Ikeda and Gakkai lesdership were not regarded as Nichiren Shoshu adherents and as from 1997 all those who had not signed with an official Nichiren Shoshu temple were also not regarded Nichiren Shoshu adherents anymore. -- Catflap08 ( talk) 18:41, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
To whoever this concerns,
I'm trying to create an equal opportunity for Mr. Roderick Scot as it appears on Wikipedia as they compare to Mr. George Zimmerman. It appears Mr. Scot has significantly less information compared to Mr. Zimmerman - most likely due to the high profiled issues. If you would please post more info in an unbiased manner I would be most appreciative. Mr. Scot has significantly less in his bio than what he should be given credit to. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DRC1015 ( talk • contribs) 08:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Land Tawney ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A newly-created biography of a "liberal activist" that came to my attention via a post on the COI noticeboard [57]. It reads like an attack piece in my opinion, and does little to establish the individual's notability. I'm tempted to at least PROD it, but would welcome a second opinion. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 12:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Jo Frost ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Long-term, ongoing issues with IP-based editors making advertorial and promotional edits. Comments left for IP-based editors and throwaway accounts are ignored. May eventually request semi-protection but additional watchers would be appreciated. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 21:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
2015 University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon racism incident ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
As I'm sure most people have heard, there was an incident at the University of Oklahoma concerning a song sung by members of this fraternity which resulted in the chapter being shut down and two students being expelled. There are other issues that might raise BLP concerns, but my question focuses on these issues:
Some scholars have raised issues related to protections guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. First Amendment law specialist and UCLA Law professor Eugene Volokh asserted that President Boren's actions were unconstitutional and that the University had no legal right to expel the students. [1] Oklahoma State University media law associate professor Joey Senat stated that the chant was offensive but is still protected free speech. [2]
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Accusing someone of violating another's constitutional rights is a serious accusation, and the sources feel light-weight in that regard. But Volokh is an expert here. And yet - his opinion is in an Op-Ed. The LA Times article has a counterpoint defence of Boren, but it's not in the article. Should it be?
I don't have an outcome I'm looking for people to support or shoot down. But I'm very interested in what thoughts people here might think. Guettarda ( talk) 00:05, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
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In the article he is reported to have briefly played football for the New Orleans Saints, however his name does not appear anywhere on the their all time roster which can be found at the following link: http://www.neworleanssaints.com/assets/docs/All-Time%20Roster%20Alpha.pdf http://www.neworleanssaints.com/assets/docs/All-Time%20Roster%20Alpha.pdf. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.162.140.55 ( talk) 02:11, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Please refer to the Talk Page of this Article. This article is already being listed for deletion many times. The Article claimed that she received award from AAW which is itself not notable. Please look into the matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjoy64 ( talk • contribs) 11:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
I am James Valitchka, this page/article was made with falsified information. I am requesting it's deletion.
For verification of identity or other concerns you can contact me at [redacted] where I will facilitate further contact.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
James Valitchka — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.39.50.52 ( talk) 14:04, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
There are many good sources that say that Shlomo Sand is a controversial person. That is to say, not just his theories and books, but he himself as well. I have added the word "controversial", which I find a neutral term, to the article about him, but two other editors disagree with me and one of them removed it, [2] [3] even though I brought 4 good sources. [4] He thinks the word "controversial" "is not helpful". I came here to ask for outside input on the talkpage discussion. Debresser ( talk) 20:22, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Bob Hoffman, head men's basketball coach at Mercer University, seems to have had some defamatory information posted to his Wiki page. The errors included:
-Hoffman was removed from his position at Oklahoma University after the NCAA found him guilty of 28 violations. In truth, Hoffman was exonerated by the NCAA and head coach Kelvin Sampson was removed by the University. Hoffman was simply not retained by new head coach, Jeff Capel.
-Someone also posted to the bottom that despite his outspoken stance as a Christian, Hoffman has repeatedly violated NCAA rules and consistently is ejected from games. Both of these statements are unfounded and certainly defamatory.
Looking at the history it appears this bio is being repeatedly edited in a way which doesn't meet standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.147.149 ( talk) 09:15, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
There is a debate at Acharya S on whether her first name should be included in the article. On the subjects Facebook page, she has asked that her first name be made to "D." instead of "Dorothy." A problem with this is the use of scholarly sources that mention both her real name "Dorothy Murdock" and her pen name "Acharya S."
One example is the religion scholar Maurice Casey, [5] page 21 in his text "Jesus: Evidence and Argument or Mythicist Myths?" published by T&T Clark, where he has a consice biography of her stating her real name and her pen name. I assume this is a reliable source, to make sure I have posted on the RS Noticeboard [6]to check if this is a reliable source in this case.
Jehochman has stated that using her first name in the article is a clear violation of BLP, and that editors who place her real name into the article are also violating BLP policy. Is this correct? Thank you. Ism schism ( talk) 16:16, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Kris Jenner ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
According to the use of the Category Category:Actresses from San Diego, California and its parents Category:Actresses from California and Category:Actresses, how a person is determined to be an "actress" seems to be somewhat loosely determined. For example, Emily Ratajkowski is included, who is mostly known for her modeling and appearance in a 2013 music video. Another is Susanne Marsee, who is a singer, but had television appearances.
So is inclusion of the Category in my examples in error or is the use of it in Kris Jenner's acceptable as a subject on numerous episodes of multiple reality show series? -- Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:57, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
There is an RFC at the
talk page regarding sourced content that is being excluded from the article due to BLP concerns. Participation from uninvolved parties is needed. Thanking you in advance.
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Trinity Baptist Church (Concord, New Hampshire) was brought for discussion to the COI noticeboard over some COI issues (see here). The church itself is hardly notable; what may be notable is that a member of the church raped and impregnated a young girl who was also a member, and the pastor of the church participated in an ugly coverup and humiliation of the girl. Many years later the story came out and the now-woman went on 20/20 under her real name and told the story, and there was a trial that found the rapist guilty and the pastor resigned all his positions. Everybody's names are known (Tina Anderson is the survivor, the rapist is Ernest Willis; the pastor at the time was Chuck Phelps).
In the COIN discussion, AndyTheGrump raised the issue that the article about the church is a coatrack for discussing the crime. Andy took the position that none of it is notable and it should be deleted. Jehochman agreed with respect to the church, but found the crime potentially notable. Question for this board:
Is it normal to have a biography that's primarily concerned with attacking certain studies by an academic? Arthur Kellermann is largely a critique of a small segment of the guy's work. Is that the way we write articles about scholars? Felsic ( talk) 16:37, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Gamergate controversy ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A link to an off-wiki (likely non-RS) news site was redacted from an article talk page due to BLP concerns over comments regarding pseudonymous Wikipedia editors. I assumed the "L" and "P" in "BLP" precluded application of BLP policy to wikipedia user accounts. Was my assumption incorrect? And if so, would BLP policy apply to anonymous accounts on other sites as well? —EncyclopediaBob (talk) 19:20, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Questionable claims already discussed can be removed with a reference to the previous discussion." Since the sources is not reliable and the author's opinion is not notable I see no reason it need to remain on the talk page. BLPTALK does not mean that any and all links on talk pages are OK, that's just to easy to game. — Strongjam ( talk) 23:24, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
removing prohibited materialis permitted, WP:BLP at WP:BLPTALK explicitly allows links, and they should not be considered to be prohibited in this sense.
Michael Langone ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Langone is a proponent of the pseudoscientific theory of mind control. [1] The former American Family Foundation, headed by Langone, is described as offering the most public support for the mind-control theory through its Cultic Studies Journal. [2] The theory is seen by researchers as a propaganda device used by the anti-cult movement to rationalize the persecution of minority religious groups. [1]
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ChrisGualtieri has removed the material above twice already (
[8], and
[9]}), with an edit summary of ".... what a farce)"
. The material is sourced to a book published by
NYU Press and an article published by the
Social Justice Research journal. Are these sources reliable for the content in question? Is this material suitable for a BLP of this person? I think so. Uninvolved editors' comments would be appreciated. -
Cwobeel
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18:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
An analysis of Jean-Marie Abgrall's cultic brainwashing theory shows that the theory is essentially identical to the pseudoscientific theory that was developed first by the American CIA as a propaganda device to combat communism, and second as an ideological device for use by the American anti-cult movement to rationalize efforts at persecution and control of minority religious groups. The CIA theory has been evaluated scientifically in research in several contexts (i.e., communist coercive indoctrination of Western prisoners, the CIA's attempted development of brainwashing techniques, and with American new religions or “cults”). In each context, it has been shown to be ineffective in coercively changing worldviews. Because of this pattern of disconfirmation, testimony based on brainwashing theory has been opposed as unscientific by relevant professional academic organizations and repeatedly excluded from American legal trials. Consequently, neither legal decisions nor public policy with respect to minority religions should be based on Abgrall's appropriation of this pseudoscientific theory. [10]
The term "cult" is often associated with a process that has been given a variety of labels, including "thought reform" (Lifton, 1961), "coercive persuasion" (Schein, 1956, 1961), "brainwashing," (Hunter, 1953), "mind control" (Langone, 1988), the "systematic manipulation of psychological and social influence" (Singer, 1983), "coordinated programs of coercive influence and behavior control" (Ofshe & Singer, 1986), and "exploitative persuasion" (Singer & Addis, 1991). (Langone, Michael (1990). "Psychotherapy Cults". Cultic Studies Journal. 7 (2): 3.)
The "Challenging Religion" source strongly supports this, without using the exact word "pseudoscience". It does quote the American Psychological Association:
the theory... 'is not accepted in the scientific community' and... 'has been repudiated by the scientific community'
and says
the brief also implied that theories of mind control... were uniformly regarded as 'not accepted in the scientific community', be they referred to as 'brainwashing', 'mind control', or - as Singer preferred... 'coercive persuasion'.
The source quotes external reviewer Jeffrey D. Fisher with
"unscientific", "biased", "sometimes... characterized by the use of deceptive, indirect techniques of persuasion and control - the very thing it is investigating", "At times the reasoning seems flawed to the point of being almost ridiculous", "...more like hysterical ramblings than a scientific report".
Fisher later goes on
"some of the most polemical, ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen anywhere, much less in the context of an APA technical report."
This all seems to support the statement that the report and its theories were/are pseudoscience and fringe. I believe we can go with the American Psychological Association as a reviewer of the theory and the book sources here and at Talk:Michael Langone as secondary source as well. -- Tgeairn ( talk) 20:58, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
The term "cult" is often associated with a process that has been given a variety of labels ... mind control...which Tgeairn acts as if Langone supports literal mind control. The actual writing and listing uses the term which has entered popular usage, but the definition Langone gives is for deceptive and manipulative emotional control of susceptible persons. As such - I take no stock in either Cwobeel's or Tgeairn's conclusions because they are in error. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 05:33, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Much of the debate is covered on the BLP talk page, including material where Langone is accused of supporting an entire task force report where nothing other than the fact he was on the task force is presented, and his individual works do not supports the claims made. And in one case, Langone specifically lists all the views held by people -- without asserting the correctness of any of them. If we say a person supports a particular view, we should use a source making that statement based on fact. Collect ( talk) 13:26, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
@ Tgeairn: I may have misunderstood the problem, if it is with the specific term "pseudoscientific theory". The Challenging Religions source applies "unscientific" in this context, correct? Doesn't that suffice until a source that uses "pseudoscientific" is found. The same objection I made about the "minority religions" probably holds, because there is a categorical shift in meaning between "unscientific" and "pseudoscientific".-- Ubikwit 連絡 見学/迷惑 14:05, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Note that in 2002 (15 years after the rejected report) the APA president stated: [15]
Which means he was promoting pseudoscience? Or is it more likely that from 1987 to 2002 some changes in opinion occurred? Collect ( talk) 17:35, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
I am related to the page subject and he has requested my help with this, but I'm new to Wikipedia and would really appreciate volunteer support.
He would like to contribute in a neutral and unbiased manner, but first could someone help clean out the frankly unkind and spurious claims?
Reasons I feel this article needs to be edited:
- Point of view is not neutral.
- Tone of a large section of article content is negative and accusatory.
- Some content is particularly libelous.
- Poorly sourced with dead links or unreliable sources.
- History of page edits indicate this has been an ongoing issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blahrgy ( talk • contribs) 09:26, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Some links to YouTube physics videos have been removed from Walter Lewin on the grounds that MIT has taken a disciplinary action against him. Apparently a 32-year-old French woman sent him a naked selfie and later complained to MIT. The full details are not known. The videos are very popular. The question is whether Wikipedia should somehow try to punish him by censoring links to the physics videos. I do not see how it is any business of WP whether he did whatever it is that he is accused of. Even if he did commit a crime, and no one is accusing him of that, I do not see that as a reason to make his physics lectures hard to access. Roger ( talk) 00:41, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Please help. Another editor has removed the physics video links in an attempt to punish him for some online remarks he allegedly made. This is censorship for an ideological purpose, and a BLP violation to blame Lewin for some dubious allegations. Roger ( talk) 22:26, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
If the article on Adolf Hitler did not have a link to Mein Kampf, then I would assume that the editors thought that he was a bad guy with very bad ideas in his book. But the links are there, and you can follow them to read the book in several languages. The world's most famous freshman physics lectures used to be on the page of 80-year-old physicist Walter Lewin, but now they are gone because ... explain it to me again? Is it because he flirted with a 32-year-old woman on the other side of the world? Is it because he failed to recognize that she had a mental disorder? Is it because he should be getting his porn from sites unrelated to physics? Is it because he is unapologetic for looking at a naked selfie? Is it because MIT decided to scapegoat him in order to avoid federal Title IX charges? Is it because MIT is blackmailing him with some sort of secret embarrassing evidence? Are these videos really worse than Mein Kampf? Roger ( talk) 01:16, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Much like the character of Antonio Salieri in the 1984 movie Amadeus some people just can't cope with the idea that a "vulgar creature" like Walter Lewin is capable of creating work that touches the sublime. A common reaction to this is to either try to silence the author or censor the work and preferably both. The emotion even heightens because Lewin has been lifted to almost god like proportions by critics in the last decade. I can't say he didn't ask for that though, because he did :-). So our ability to judge is at stake here. We misjudged. Oh boy. It might take 50 years or more before person and work can be separated to some reasonable degree, but I will try to speed things up a little: I'm not saying that proper teacher/student interaction is not an urgent and important subject to discuss. I think the fact that every educational institute has its own set of rules and there is no official legislation makes it a lot less transparent then it could be. Broaden it and look at all situations where there is to some degree an imbalance in power. Religious institutions, government officials and civilians. The case we have here is horrific in its uncontrollability. The problem has been haunting us for 3000 years and we are not getting an inch closer to a solution. Also interesting to discuss, and preferably watch in the best way possible, are the unique lectures by Lewin, every single one cultural icons that have proven themselves for half a century now. A strange combination of science and theatre that has never been created before and will never be created again. As a bonus, friend and foe agree that the lectures do an amazing job teaching people physics. Summarizing, I would prefer to separate these two discussions, even though they both fall in the category "Walter Lewin" which we (well, you) are writing a Wikipedia page for. Kind regards Daniel Dekkers ( talk) 14:29, 24 February 2015 (UTC) (Sorry for my English, it is not my first language)
Hello Wikipedia Administrators,
I have been trying to work on an article for awhile. It was removed as it was apparently not notable. I am not fully aware of Biographies on Wikipedia and how they work. If someone can please visit - User:DmitryPopovRU/Alex_Gilbert. Please do not take it down but please give me advice and how I can grow this article. I am sure these references are notable, it is not also for a so called ONE EVENT problem that was brought up before. All I am asking is simply.. Is this article notable and why not? and what can be improved.
Thank You! Dmitry -- DmitryPopovRU ( talk) 05:34, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi! Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) and thanks for your reply! I deleted it because It was apparently not notable and all I need is an experienced editor to have a look at the article and help me work on it. I have put it here User:DmitryPopovRU/sandbox. They mentioned that he should't be noted as a camera operator. Though the references are notable for other things how can I make this article relevant and that will work with the way its written? Please help if you can or tag someone who can help improve this! — Preceding undated comment added 10:03, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Can someone please have a look and help with the article here User:DmitryPopovRU/sandbox ? Thank You! -- DmitryPopovRU ( talk) 09:00, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Tanana, Alaska ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
About ten months ago, Scott Johnson and Gabriel Rich of the Alaska State Troopers were killed when responding to an incident in this community. As I had noticed a trend in general in our coverage of law enforcement of giving undue weight to deaths of officers in the line of duty, I started a thread on the talk page, as I felt the article is far too weighted towards coverage of that incident. I abandoned that discussion, as it seemed as though I was being goaded into an endless series of pointless back-and-forth, when I may perhaps have better things to do with my life. Revisiting the article and discussion today, something occurred to me: are we violating BLP by making the references we're making to the father and son who were charged with crimes in connection with this killing, but at this point have yet to be convicted of anything? RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 03:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Someone has made some very opiniated and ibelious comments, especially in the "Controversies" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.199.107.254 ( talk) 14:45, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
It is untrue that Bill Cowsill (William Joseph Cowsill) suffered from heroin addiction. As a matter of fact he hated heroin. He was sometimes known to use pain medication pharmaceutical drugs. His pain was physical from a car accident. He had quit alcohol at approximately 40 years old. I lived with him as his girlfriend for years. I hope you will correct this mistake. Sincerely, Joanna E. Ussner. Thank you for your time.
I commented on the following pasted comment below some time ago but notice the wiki comments have not been corrected. I apologize that I don't know how this process works exactly, but what is posted is incorrect regarding our relocation to Tennessee, Diane attending Belmont and the cartoon incident at the Tennessee State Legislature as regards "approporiate" punishment....all of which can be independently verified if anyone wishes to report accurately.
Thank you very much. Dave Black 2/23/2015
Diane and I moved from Baltimore, Maryland to Nashville, Tennessee in July of 1986 as I joined the faculty of Vanderbilt University. Diane attended Belmont after we moved here and graduated in 1991 with her BS in Nursing. The statement that we moved to Tennessee so she could attend Belmont is not correct and we did not relocate in 1985 as stated.
As a second issue, Diane's staffer who forwarded the Presdient Obama email is not a racist. She forwarded an email that was circulating among staffers at the legislature. Although a mistake the assistant is by no definition a racist and she was disciplined as required by Human Resources policies at the legislature. Although I respect the right of individuals to express opinions I suspect none of the individuals expressing such harsh opinions have ever met Diane or her assistant. Opinions are not necessarily facts and I appreciate the narrative shown that has attempted to at least place this incident into a factual context.
Dave Black — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.210.11.123 (talk) 18:34, 21 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.216.103 ( talk)
Vic Dibitetto ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I'd appreciate some extra eyes on Vic Dibitetto, where I'm in dispute with an SPA over the use of youtube and facebook sources in this comedians' BLP. Stuartyeates ( talk) 20:30, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
While people are stating that he was a mobster, the mob would never allow a non-Italian to enter its higher ranks. John Alite could not have been John Gotti, Jr's associate.
Even the jury that tried John Gotti, Jr stated that Alite was a non-credible witness. His testimony was ripped to shreds by Gotti, Jr's attornies. I just thought I would throw this out there so that further review into who and what John Alite really is, could be done. It is more apt that John Alite was just a petty associate who was looking to get out of jail time, or rise into fame, than actually a partner with John Gotti, Jr.
I would suggest reading In My Father's Shadow and possibly looking into the court records from the trial where Alite tried to persuade the jury he was a partner, to find the truth about who he was. — Preceding
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172.243.171.66 (
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Would some others please watch Ankit Love. A user has spent a considerable time editing the article to include outlandish claims such as him being a King of Jammu and Kashmir. The article before they got to it was a decent article on an Indian singer. The user previously uploaded severely personal material on the subject that were subject to Oversight so I am concerned about what else may be buried in all the puffery. Here is a diff between the two versions [24]. JBH ( talk) 12:22, 25 February 2015 (UTC) I should have notified other user pinging @ योजनबुद्ध:. JBH ( talk) 13:44, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
why does her biography not mention one of her first shows....Inside Herman's Head??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.51.209.242 ( talk) 22:14, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
i feel that the article does not meet the standards of the biographies of living persons requirements for tone and possibly balance. some parts read like a resume introduction and do not sound as informative as much as they sound (what's the word?) ruminative or quixotic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.120.71.2 ( talk) 02:51, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
There is a debate at Acharya S on whether her first name should be included in the article. On the subjects Facebook page, she has asked that her first name be made to "D." instead of "Dorothy." A problem with this is the use of scholarly sources that mention both her real name "Dorothy Murdock" and her pen name "Acharya S."
One example is the religion scholar Maurice Casey, [25] page 21 in his text "Jesus: Evidence and Argument or Mythicist Myths?" published by T&T Clark, where he has a consice biography of her stating her real name and her pen name. This is a reliable source, to make sure I have posted on the RS Noticeboard [26]
Which do we emphasize, the multiple reliable sources that state her first name, or her desire that her first name not appear on Wikipedia? Thank you. Ism schism ( talk) 21:09, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Not a violation, but the actual name is: Suzanne Preston Blier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clerkp ( talk • contribs) 06:26, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
This article has just received a major edit, previous edits of this size have usually been by people with a COI. Could someone look at the large additions that its received today, and the article as a whole please. Biography articles are not my strong suit. Thanks - X201 ( talk) 16:11, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Avigdor Kahalani ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Please correct the following:
During the first day of the 6 day war Avigdor Kahalani was severely injured in his tank which was a Patton tank M-48 and not a Centurion. Our unit of the 79th battalion, 7th brigade, where I was a tank commander was all composed of Patton M-48 with exception of one platoon which had modified M-48 and was under the command of captain Shalom Angel. Avigdor Kahalani was my commander at that time and a captain of the unit.
Sincerly,
Stefan Uri Pienkny Served in the tank core from 1965 to 1968 and later during the Yom Kippur War. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.172.119.42 ( talk) 21:33, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Article is inaccurate and biased. Just compare it with this article in the NY Times. I would not be comfortable fixing it because she used to work for me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/nyregion/report-on-martha-stark-ex-finance-chief-details-misconduct-accusations.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.58.104.170 ( talk) 20:43, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
[33] is being used in Project for the New American Century for the following:
We now know that a blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice-president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), Jeb Bush (George Bush's younger brother) and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences, was written in September 2000 by the neoconservative think tank, Project for the New American Century (PNAC).
The people named appear to be living persons, and the claim appears to be contentious when presented as a claim of fact. Ought this be reworded to properly state it purely as an opinion of Meacher, rather than as his presentation of a fact? Mt. Meacher is well-known for his belief in the 9/11 Conspiracy theories. [34] NPR: The former UK environment minister Michael Meacher, a leading "disturbing question" figure on the edges of the 9/11 Truth movement, was never a member of the British Cabinet, but in a radio interview on the U.S. syndicated Alex Jones Show was referred to as the "former number three in the Blair government. [35] WSJ The former U.K. junior environment minister Michael Meacher, a leading "disturbing question" figure on the edges of the 9/11 Truth movement, [36] Telegraph Experienced professionals know that this was a state sponsored inside job by the US regime; 2 NATO ministers from Germany (Minister for Technoloy Andreas von Bulow) and UK minister Michael Meacher and former Italian President Francesco Cossiga) all confirmed publicly that the 9/11 event was an inside job perpetrated by the US regime. etc. all seem to suggest that his claims of fact might not be so considered by some others. Collect ( talk) 21:03, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
The article by Meacher which is being cited for the single out-of-context paragraph is subtitled: The 9/11 attacks gave the US an ideal pretext to use force to secure its global domination and starts with
Is it reasonable to add the various conspiracy theory categories to an article which uses this as a "reliable source"? Collect ( talk) 15:38, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Please note that
there's an RFC up on the talk page of this article now. So far just three people slinging the same arguments back and forth at each other, it could definitely use some input from uninvolved parties.
Fyddlestix (
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At Danny Kirwan, an editor recently added information about the subject's birth name and early family history. I removed it twice as unsourced, and he very quickly responded with this [38] citing birth and marriage records and random "school records". Is this stuff considered reliable? I wouldn't trust this edit as far as I could (metaphorically) throw it. Bretonbanquet ( talk) 12:15, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Marwan Koukash (
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From what I understand, the subject of the article identifies himself as being born in
Palestine. For example, see this interview.
http://www.totalrl.com/jjb-meets-marwan-koukash/
There appears to be a long history of the first sentence of the article being changed backwards and forwards between "born
Israel" and "born
Palestine". One IP editor,
58.7.65.162, has changed it to Israel 5 times over the last 4 days. I have changed it back to Palestine three times, and another user
Dr.Steve88 has changed it back once.
The IP user's position, as noted on their talk page (and copied to the
article's talk page), is that "Palestine is not a sovereign nation and the land is Israel". This appears to take the issue into an argument not about where Marwan Koukash was born, but an argument about the existence of Palestine as a state. That is something I do not want to waste my time arguing about.
I am raising this issue here because I think it is a question of the
Verifiability aspect of the BLP policy. However, I have also discovered this morning the existence of restrictions on the topic, described at
Wikipedia:ARBPIA. So if there is a more appropriate place to raise this issue, please let me know.
AtHomeIn神戸 (
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Bon Yeon and, to a lesser extent, Soenghyang are having gross BLP violations added. Ladyof Shalott 17:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
The creation of the JHU CTY summer program in Computer Science was previously misattributed to Curtis. It is not clear how to correct this misstatement other than to remove it. On the other hand Curtis had enormous influence on the program subsequent to its creation, and created new classes of his own as well as improved classes that had been previously created. I don't wish to start a war, or to deprive anyone of proper credit, but it is not clear how best to handle the situation. At present the statement pertaining to CTY is accurate, but perhaps does not adequately reflect Curtis's influence.
The CTY CS summer program was created by Joseph L. Bates, then of Cornell University, and Robert Harper, then a graduate student at Cornell. It was subsequently developed by Robert Harper working together with Gilbert Neiger and the late Rick Palmer before Curtis became involved in the program. His influence from then on was outsized and deserving of proper recognition, but it is not proper to attribute the creation of the program to him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarioDenobili ( talk • contribs) 19:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
The entry cites two conflicting birth dates.
birth_date= Rabor
11 March 1955 and then later Soleimani was born 12 March 1957 in the villageDave Lee Travis It seems like a repeat discussion as above , The same user User:JJARichardson has created the group Criminals from Derbyshire - with only two people that he has included and added Dave lee Travis to https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Dave_Lee_Travis&diff=prev&oldid=646872374 - Travis has only a conviction of three months in prison suspended for two years - is he worthy and are others convicted of similar minors crimes with minor convictions be allowed to be added to these criminal groups? Govindaharihari ( talk) 08:13, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Lobbied for the School Access to Emergency Epinephrine Act signed into law by Obama in November, and praised uniformly by news reports.
This edit was just made: [39] with the edit summary hmm -- seems like there's no consensus to add this material
The material is strongly sourced, neutral in tone, notable, was on the talk page for discussion since 22 Feb, with not a single opposing statement. Is the material notable enough for the BLP?
One editor insists the material should not be in because she did it to get a "huge government purchase program" since schools will have to get the epinephrine autoinjectors in order to actually be able to save lives. Fortune [40] states: recently helped the School Access to Emergency Epinephrine Act, which will both boost Mylan’s profits and save children’s lives, get signed into law. which does not appear to me to have her be only interested in money.
Is this material which should properly be in her BLP? Note that she was standing behind the president at the signing. [41] [42] Bloomberg noted "At least three companies including Mylan of Canonsburg, Pennsylvania, make devices to deliver the drug epinephrine. Mylan estimates gaining access to schools could help expand its customer base to as many as 28 million from 2.6 million now. ... To raise awareness, the company last year started giving away EpiPens to schools that request the devices."
[43] NYT: Disturbingly, a significant portion of severe allergic reactions at school occur among students with no prior allergy diagnosis. During the 2012-13 school year, of the 38 people in Chicago public schools who were injected with undesignated EpiPens provided through the EpiPen4Schools program, 21 did not previously know they had an allergy. (The youngest student was 3, the oldest was 19, and two recipients were school staff members.) As a nurse at the office of my family’s allergy doctor has said to me repeatedly, “Anyone can develop an allergy to anything at any time.”
Those of us in allergic families know that being directly affected by allergies isn’t a requirement for compassion; the world, thank goodness, is populated by many sympathetic individuals. Still, it’s not hard to find people who are hostile and disbelieving toward allergies. I suspect that the most vociferous antagonists of the allergic community won’t understand just what it’s like to live with allergies unless they themselves or someone close to them develops them, but I hope, for their sakes, that these people are blessed with the luxury of maintaining their skepticism. If they’re not, I also hope that safeguards such as the School Access to Emergency Epinephrine Act are firmly in place to protect them and the people they love.
I for some odd reason consider this notable and notable enough for inclusion in the BLP. Other opinions? (Other than"they will make money which is why they gave away a lot of injectors" or the like. Collect ( talk) 21:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Not really a content dispute, because any edit Collect made would have probably been reverted, regardless of what the edit actually is. The two eds have accused me of inappropriate COI conduct and canvassing (a behavioral, not content issue). I have accused them of possibly colluding together. [44] Most content discussions on this page devolve into NOTBUREAU issues and an impossible barrier of undeniable consensus to add sourced content. Also, at-a-glance (and I only skimmed briefly) the problems on this page seem to be representative of a generally combative editing pattern. All behavioral, not content issues, unfortunately. CorporateM ( Talk) 22:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Philip Benedict ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is an academic's biography with a single reliable independent source mentioning Benedict, severe tone issues promoting Benedict, and an IP editor, apparently a student of Benedict, reverting every attempt to fix or even to point out the article's issues, claiming that Benedict's CV, published by his employer, is an independent source. More attention would be welcome. Huon ( talk) 23:50, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
It is not a single source. It uses many sources. Very few of them are written by Benedict. It appears that Huon has a history of conflict based on the Jeff Smisek ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) page with the person who originally authored the page. Now he has taken his anger here to vandalized a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:341b:f2e0:9577:4aab:113a:aec7 ( talk) 00:03, February 27, 2015 (UTC)
Hi there. So this article is a BLP with 3 sentences. One of those sentences details the subject's child pornography conviction. I'm completely unfamiliar with the topic and generally don't work with BLPs, but I just reviewed an AN3 report about a newbie editor who was edit-warring to remove the sentence about the conviction because: " Distress is being caused with this page, respectfully ask for deletion and thanks from those affected". I semi-protected the page in its previous state to cease the edit-warring, although the editor's plea does not seem unreasonable to me and is cause for some concern in my opinion. I'm not sure what exactly they mean by distress, but given the state of this article, I'm concerned that having one of the three sentences describing the subject explain his child porn conviction might be a WP:BALASPS/ WP:UNDUE problem. Wanted to get some additional feedback on this. Swarm X 23:24, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
I am the author of the original article I have tried my best to be as neutral when writing about the subject as the only noteworthy mainstream sources are notably about his conviction. I would write more about his karate tournament success if I could but martial tournaments are very niche interests so are not going to get a lot of coverage especially decades prior to early 2000's. Dwanyewest ( talk) 00:06, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
On 1996 shelling of Qana#Shelling of UN compound there is a lengthy paragraph about Naftali Bennett having a large share of the cause to the tragedy that caused the death of 106 Lebanese civilians.
The reporter who started the allegation recanted his statement (available only in Hebrew).
The paragraph is WP:DUE but I believe it is still libelous especially considering the recanting. A short discussion took place on the talk page. I think it should be remove according to WP:BLPGOSSIP and WP:BLPCRIME but since I am not super familiar with the WP:BLP policy, I hoped an experienced editor can give it a look.
Thanks, Ashtul ( talk) 00:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Judith Godreche is a female actress of Jewish Birth and ancestry who is not listed under the title of actors in the articles about Jewish citizens of France. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.172.209.41 ( talk) 22:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
A new study on volcanoes and CO2 was just released by Columbia University.
The Plimer BLP had:
The new study is at [45]( Science Daily) which is a secondary reliable source for the original report at Geophysical Research Letters which also meets RS. It states: The findings suggest that models of earth's natural climate dynamics, and by extension human-influenced climate change, may have to be adjusted. The study appears this week in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.
Should the new material which does not refer to Plimer by name be used, noting that the other reports also do not mention him by name? Or should we stick only with the 2011 report? Collect ( talk) 22:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
There seems to be a couple of single purpose accounts doing some muckraking/neutralizing here, versus an editor with an admitted COI. I removed a bit of the immediately apparent worst, but noticed I'd left a bunch. More eyes, maybe? InedibleHulk (talk) 21:02, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
While I'm sure they do excellent work, after stumbling across this article it's pretty clear that they wrote it themselves and almost all of the footnotes reference stuff they've written themselves elsewhere.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.61.244 ( talk • contribs)
Nick Griffin ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nick_Griffin&diff=646793119&oldid=646333056
the question I want to ask is does Griffin belong in these groups? Is he a noteworthy criminal from London and is he only one of two noteworthy criminals from Suffolk? - the other one being a footballer who got a sentence of four and a half years in prison for rape - Griffin has only received a nine month sentence that was a suspended sentence given for - In 1998, Griffin was convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to the offence of 'publishing or distributing racially inflammatory written material' in issue 12 of The Rune, published in 1996.? /info/en/?search=Category:Criminals_from_Suffolk Is he really for this crime one of only 22 noteworthy criminals from London, this list which includes mass murderers and famous gangsters /info/en/?search=Category:Criminals_from_London ? I have now linked the user that added these groups to the article and I have decided it's important and so I have removed the groups from Griffin as disputed while discussion occurs, The basic question is, can or should anyone that has been convicted of a minor offence be added to these criminal groups? Griffin is in this group, which I don't oppose at all - I see a lot of missing names there, please assist to expand that group, there are many missing /info/en/?search=Category:British_politicians_convicted_of_crimes Govindaharihari ( talk) 07:08, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Note: "criminals" is defined as a "sensitive category" per WP:COP#Sensitive and WP:BLPCAT. In the case at hand, the use of the category is,IMO, used more to discredit a person as being of poor character than anything else, and is thus improper. Collect ( talk) 14:34, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Dean Jones is my father. I'm the youngest of Dean and Mae's two daughters. My step-brother Michael Pastick, is 3 years older than my older sister Carol and is Lory's son from a previous marriage. Dean and wife Lory never had a child together. I love my step-brother, but he is not my blood brother. Just trying to set the record straight. Please change this on the bio. Thank you, Deanna Jones Demaree I'm not sure what proof I have, ie references. Look it up. It's in Dean's book... " Under Running Laughter" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dean's daughter ( talk • contribs) 07:43, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Ephraim Padwa ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Hi, as a wikinewbie not sure whether this should be brought up here but there seems to be a bit of a wikiedit war going on between a couple of wikieditors with this article Ephraim Padwa. a look at the revision history shows edits being entered then reverted with no reason given. can someone look into this? thanks:) Coolabahapple ( talk) 01:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
It is inappropriate to re-add this infomation without expansion. Chesdovi ( talk) 16:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
The entry under this section reads that "Jack Joyner-Kersee... died after an exploding salmon was thrown at her." This is fictitious. She actually won a bronze medal in the long lump. http://www.biography.com/people/jackie-joyner-kersee-9358710#olympic-star — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.89.130.54 ( talk • contribs) 15:49, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure how exactly to deal with this, so. I'm wondering if that controversy section should be there at all when it describes (in length) certain rumors about people which we've not written about in the articles of those persons themselves (and shouldn't because it would appear to be WP:BLP violation). I'd blank it completely, is that wrong? Or should those two controversies be written about in a different way? — Jeraphine Gryphon ( talk) 15:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello. Can someone please protect David H. Murdock to prevent further violations of WP:BLP, WP:OR, and WP:BLPPRIMARY (see the edit history)? 137.110.48.116 ( talk) 19:24, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
The article has many flaws. It does not meet notability guideline for biographies. Firstly, it uses self-published sources. The article uses person's own website as a reference source. The "Other achievements" section praises the person using his own website as a reference source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bollywoodan ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Rudyard Kipling wrote The Jungle Books at his home near Brattleboro, Vermont, in the 1890s, not at Browns Hotel in the early 1900s, although Browns was a favorite place for him to stay. I wrote the book Rudyard Kipling in Vermont, published in the 1990s.
Best wishes,
Stuart A.P. Murray Berlin, New York — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.209.21.253 ( talk) 01:39, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Gamergate controversy ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Another link was redacted [47] from the Gamergate talk page with the stated reason that other articles on the site violate BLP, and while this article does not appear to, the redacting editor " didn't really want to have to trawl through the extensive comments" to confirm. [48]
Previously I asked [49] whether a BLP-violating article could be cited for its compliant, non-BLP material. That discussion has yet to reach a conclusion, partly it seems because my question is general and the answer depends on specifics. Here we have specifics - and they address an even broader question: can a BLP-complaint article be linked to, when the site hosting it contains BLP-violating material.
The answer is important whether or not the redacted article is usable since that question can't be asked without linking the article. —EncyclopediaBob (talk) 18:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
do we bar all links from a given site if that site has a reputation for BLP violations?Not sure I have an answer to that, but that seems to be the thinking behind this link's removal. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{ re}} 19:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page, and requires
any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be explicitly attributed to a reliable, published source. If we are not actually adding contentious material to Wikipedia there is no violation. As a logical consequence, sources do not inherently (in & of themselves) violate WP:BLP.
I think we do need to bar all links from an attack site that contains BLP violations, even if the singular landing page itself doesn't contain BLP violations. Further, I question that a site which has content that violates BLP is being used or proposed to being used by editors as if it were a Reliable Source, when it clearly is not. Dreadstar ☥ 20:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
adding information about living personsto Wikipedia that sources do not inherently (in & of themselves) violate WP:BLP. Regarding sources as containing BLP violations or violating BLP is a fundamental misapprehension of policy, which leads to its misapplication.
Are you seriously suggesting that any editor who posts a link to a web site that contains a BLP violation should be banned? Does that include CBS News? Because I can post such a link. And you can ban me. It would have nothing to do with Gamergate, but the freedom to discuss the reliability of a source should not be compromised. Honestly, I've had enough of this zero-tolerance atmosphere. If we as editors are not allowed to discuss the reliability of websites on Wikipedia, then WP:V is dead. And if WP:V is dead, then where is Wikipedia? A Quest For Knowledge ( talk) 22:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
nurses who treat their patients without care.nurses often get angry with patients when they asked to assist they are sometimes heart less with people it.s not our fault they dont enjoy their jobs for ill patients sometimes when you waiting for help they wont come to assist you and ask whats the issue even if the issue is serious they dont care — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.236.168.223 ( talk) 13:39, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
This is a short BLP stub about a Indian university head who is currently involved in a local scandal. He's not really A7 worthy, I wouldn't think, but I'm not sure he's truly notable beyond the current scandal. The stub appears to exist mostly because of the scandal. Maybe it's A10 worthy, maybe it can be cleaned up/expanded so that the scandal isn't the core of the article. I'm personally unsure of what to do with it, but I know that it's problematic as-is. - TexasAndroid ( talk) 16:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
I think it's pretty clear what the issue is here. If you could just revert the article to how it appeared before the most recent edit I would appreciate it.
"Wiesel was born the 21st of Nyestember 0021 A.C.C, Franks Apartment (now Sighetu Marmației), Maramureș,[6] Romania,[6] in the Carpathian Mountains. His parents were Frank and Safari Man. At home Wiesel's family spoke Chromosomian most of the time, but also Chinese.[7][8] Wiesel's mother, Safari Man, was the daughter of Chin Chin, a celebrated Vizhnitz Hasid and farmer from a nearby village. Chin Chin was active and trusted within the community. In the early years of his life, Chin Chin had spent a few months in jail for having helped Polish Jews who escaped and were hungry.
Wiesel's father, Frank, instilled a strong sense of humanism in his son, encouraging him to learn Chromosomian and to read literature, whereas his mother encouraged him to study the Torah. Wiesel has said his father represented reason while his mother Sarah promoted faith.[9]
Wiesel had three siblings – older brothers Salamander man and B0ss, and younger brother Prometheus. B0ss and Salamander Man survived the war and were reunited with Wiesel at a French orphanage. They eventually emigrated to North America, with B0ss moving to Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Prometheus, Frank, and Safari Man survived the Lycra Holocaust the Holocaust."
I was just reading this article the other day and happen to know that his siblings names are not Salamander man and B0ss, and Chinese was not the language most spoken in his household. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.64.110.82 ( talk) 17:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Can I have some more eyes on this article and a second opinion. I am on my second revert and will not revert again.
RebeccaTheAwesomeXD ( talk · contribs) with a long history of warnings for adding unsourced or poorly sourced dates of birth to BLPs, has been repeatedly adding an exact DoB to Mary-Jean O'Doherty with no source, although she has claimed on my talk page, that she got it from this web page. That page is from a website that is based in Russia, is not the official Eurovision website, and uses information "gathered from fans around the world". It is not a reliable source for a biography of a living person. I can find no other source for this date and it appears in none of her official biographies. There is also the issue of privacy in including a full DoB, especially a potentially spurious one. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:39, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Ahmad Givens died a couple of weeks ago, apparently at age 33. One source does say 35 years old, but even its URL has the number 33 in it, which makes me think they know something we, and those other sources, don't. In addition, two single purpose accounts have tried to change it to 35, so there might be something to this. The article is Real Chance of Love, and Ahmad Givens is currently a redirect to the television show. Thanks. :> Eddymason ( talk) 15:30, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Merwin Coad is my maternal biological grandfather, and my maternal biological grandmother, his second wife, was Carol Faye Farnsworth, not Peters.She is a relative of the inventor Philo T. Farnsworth, who designed and built the first all electronic working television system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.44.9.185 ( talk) 21:57, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
The autobiography by Denis Avey, The Man who Broke into Auschwitz, is undergoing some edit warring. Please see talk page regarding guidelines possibly being undermined. Other opinions would be useful.-- Light show ( talk) 01:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
His comments are publicized, but are they worth being added to the article? -- George Ho ( talk) 11:00, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
The Bio on Sherry Lansing claims she was the first Female Studio head. I believe that Lucille Ball was the First, after buying out Desi Arnez to become the presedent of desilu. Thank You Joseph C — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.119.246.162 ( talk) 13:14, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Insults Meredith when talking about the Meredith Viera show, referring to her as a racist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B843:4CE0:CD34:EE6A:91B1:E020 ( talk) 08:55, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello! I've been dealing with a BLP sourcing issue on Jordis Unga, but before I violate the 3RR I decided to bring it here. It deals with this edit (and ones following it) where I have removed content from the page and an IP ( 98.193.95.34) has reverted my changes, I revert back, and then I reverted the revert, and the IP reverted back. That's where we stand at the time of this post. The controversy is about the subject of the article allegedly not carrying out her duties to her campaign on kickstarter, but the citation is the comment on the kickstarter campaign, which only contains comments made by donors with no official statements of explanations whatsoever. I believe this is a clear violation of BLP policy, being that it's controversial material with what appears to be a very unreliable and extremely biased source. I left this message at the user's talk page, but it was promptly removed by the IP. Please advise. Kharkiv07 ( talk) 16:10, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
To whom it may concern,
This story has recently hit some of the news sources throughout our country not as many as I would have hoped. I have noticed as of today that a team or at least a few have been scrubbing his Wiki page. I have done so with my own eyes. Why this is important is that the facts are that he is still making laws, he still has a school all of which pertain to children. He is now hiding the fact that he is more culpable than what it was showing and that the crime was more than just diddling. It also does not include the fact that he has been using all but 6% of taxpayers money to fund his Christian school. This is very distressing that he can create his own picture en-light of what the news has worked so hard to get out there. I would ask that you look at Arkansas Times, Wonkette, Raw Story and Time. Thank you for your eyes, Anna Hoffmann 104.229.10.241 ( talk) 22:32, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Andrulla Blanchette ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Persistent edits by a possible COI account, primarily removing sourced content for unsourced content they prefer. I've reported to AIV, but in the dearth of response this continues, and I've no desire to edit war. Help would be appreciated. 2602:302:D89:A9C9:84E6:720C:31CA:6D3 ( talk) 03:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
The Daily Caller#Controversies needs attention from someone more familiar with BLP issues than I. There is sufficient RS coverage of TDC's involvement in this scandal about Bob Menendez that it warrants coverage in our TDC article. What I'm stuck on is how to do this while protecting Menendez's BLP rights. -- Dr. Fleischman ( talk) 21:03, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
P.S. I'm having second on whether there should be any coverage of this in the TDC article at all. -- Dr. Fleischman ( talk) 21:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Chip Coffey ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Content on this page may be legally considered libelous and appears to be posted solely for the purpose of defaming Chip Coffey. No rebuttal information has been posted on this page. 2601:0:AB80:1BF:C806:F517:7383:FC21 ( talk) 23:40, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
this is not the place for a draft article, please see
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Munya Mataruse is a Norton based musician born in Chegutu on the 22nd of January. Music Description: Afro Fusion , Shangara. He runs a Five piece band Kazevezeve( meaning the Whisper) Can perform solo performances or band performances Deputations are : Munyaradzi Mataruse( Acoustic Guitar/ vocals), Alice Muringayi (backing vocals), Simbarashe Navaya (Bass Guitar), Watson Jnr Chidzomba (Drums), and Tari “G-Fingers” Mufari (Guitar) . He formed the band in 2005 by at Pakare Paye Arts Centre which is an arts organization formed and is managed by Oliver Mtukudzi. His music is a unique blend of styles ranging from Afro Jazz, Katekwe, Shangara and Jiti (the local traditional Zimbabwean genres). His sound is recognizable with intensely catchy Zimbabwean melodies and smooth vocals. With the help from Pakare Paye Arts Centre he managed to do numerous performances to school based audiences, weddings, community galas, birthday parties, festivals namely: Harare Jazz Festival, Victoria Falls Jazz Festival, Hifa 2010 (solo), Winter Jazz Festival, Ottawa Jazz Festival, Umoja Flying Cultural Carpet and local concerts at different venues.While still taking every opportunity to gigs the band recorded its two albums Denguremhodzi and Pashangara under TUKUMUSIC/ PAKARE PAYE label.Website: www.reverbnation/munyamataruse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Munyamats ( talk • contribs) 10:38, 10 March 2015 (UTC) |
This article was listed here a week or two ago, and not much has improved (if anything, situation is worse). It has been yo-yoing back and forth between a version that is very critical of the subject, a version that is quite positive towards him, and a stubbed version that (I think?) was supposed to be some kind of interim solution. There are multiple COI'd (by their own admission) editors involved and one or two accounts who only seem to edit this article but haven't declared a COI.
I've been trying to keep an eye on it but could use some advice/help - most recently someone tried to blank the entire page, and then started pasting in old content in plain text (without markup), so quite a mess. @ Jytdog: was doing a pretty good job of it for a while but I think they've un-followed the article after this exchange on the talk page.
I'm not sure how this sort of situation is usually managed, so some help/advice would be very welcome. Fyddlestix ( talk) 01:13, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
probably should correct as there is no cure as of yet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C:4B80:1FD:7002:F934:4773:4096 ( talk) 04:33, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
1. Wikipedia notability criteria not met. 2. Too soon. Achievements mentioned are either from top tier of relatively unknown events / lower skill tier of well known events. Kukurukuku ( talk) 11:52, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Under "feats" is listed a squat of 300kg. This has no source and is almost definitely false - at 54kg the world record is 290kg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.2.31 ( talk) 00:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Incredibly biased article. Reads like a glowing biography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.246.61.190 ( talk) 06:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello. User:Catflap08 keeps deleting reliably sourced information using a primary source that doesn't even say what Catflap alleges it does.
Background: Daisaku Ikeda and the Soka Gakkai were excommunicated from Nichiren Shōshū in November 1991. Multiple sources (including one from the Japanese Journal of Religious Studies) currently on the page back this up.
Catflap is removing the "and the Soka Gakkai" portion of this equation, making it look like Daisaku Ikeda was singled out for excommunication. He wasn't. The entire organization was excommunicated. The source Catflap is using is purportedly the Nichiren Shōshū's official website [53] But that source itself states the following:
After excommunicating the Soka Gakkai organization, Nichiren Shoshu made continuous efforts to guide compassionately the Gakkai members back to the correct path of faith and practice. For a period of six years after the excommunication, individual Gakkai members who had received Gojukai from Nichiren Shoshu in the past were still recognized as Nichiren Shoshu lay believers. Nichiren Shoshu, however, could not continue with this situation, where a Gakkai member who follows Daisaku Ikeda qualifies as a Nichiren Shoshu lay believer. Nichiren Shoshu doctrine strictly prohibits its laity to hold membership in other religious organizations. On September 30, 1997, Nichiren Shoshu officially decided to terminate the membership of the Gakkai followers. After Nichiren Shoshu extensively notified the Gakkai members of this decision through its in-house publication and other means, the provision that all Gakkai members would lose their standing as Nichiren Shoshu lay believers went into effect on December 1, 1997. Emphasis added.
Not only does the primary source not refute what was on the page, it actually supports it. As I said on the talk page: Soka Gakkai was excommunited in 1991, but individual members were still recognized as lay believers. Six years later, in 1997, the recognition was revoked. When I pointed this out, Catflap's retort was "I was there at the excommunication." While that does raise wp:COI questions, I still don't see where that supports his biased edit to the BLP.
Here's a link to the Talk page, with more info: [54] AbuRuud ( talk) 20:11, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Abusive behavior is typical of Catflap08. He reverted my edits to the Daisaku Ikeda article in January, even though my contributions were well researched and properly sourced. Catflap08 continually insisted that false and libelous information stay in the BLP about Daisaku Ikeda even though all sources showed it was false and libelous, including the sources Catflap08 himself referenced. Catflap08 refused to allow proper edits and, after being confronted by other users, Catflap08 started a dispute resolution in which he mischievously never named me / never notified me, even though my edits started the dispute. Only at the end of the noticeboard discussion did someone else add me to it out of courtesy, and ultimately the libelous falsehood was removed (although there's still lots of false information in the text that Catflap08 insists on maintaining).
Catflap08 has repeatedly admitted bias against Daisaku Ikeda and Soka Gakkai-related topics, and as such should be banned from continually reverting the proper edits of others to suit his own agenda. Catflap08 is the cause of nearly every Talk Page dispute related to Daisaku Ikeda and the Soka Gakkai. It appears that Catflap08 feels ownership over these topics, against which he has an axe to grind, and his antagonistic behavior shows he is determined to stop anyone else from improving the articles too. His ongoing Wikihounding antics and long-standing biased behavior should qualify Catflap08 for TBAN from Daisaku Ikeda and Soka Gakkai-related articles, and perhaps from all BLPs on Wikipedia. Elemential1 ( talk) 17:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Even though I have announced my retirement on my talk page. Also due to issues like this one and dealing with editors with a … well what should I say … a problem? On a final note please excuse my foul language but saying that Ikeda was excommunicated along with SG/SGI is simply bullshitting – sorry again. Call it excommunication (a term I find irritating to be used in a Buddhist concept) or expulsion. I myself am by no means a reliable source but I was an adherent of Gakkai at the time – not any more thank goodness. In 1991/92 it was Ikeda and the Gakkai leadership that were expelled, excluded, excommunicated or what have you from Nichiren Shoshu. In effect that means they were not allowed to enter the high temple grounds. It was not until 1997 that the complete Gakkai membership i.e. the Norman Normal Gakkai member were also not allowed to enter temple grounds. I admit that to the willing flock of Gakkai adherents it was always portrayed as that we all since the early 90’s lost our standing as Nichiren Shoshu adherents but it was not until 1997 that there was an official seal to that --- which at the time came as a surprise since we were all cut off from official temple information anyway. So concerning the wording it might be a good idea to use the term regarded as adherents of … as from 1991/92 Ikeda and Gakkai lesdership were not regarded as Nichiren Shoshu adherents and as from 1997 all those who had not signed with an official Nichiren Shoshu temple were also not regarded Nichiren Shoshu adherents anymore. -- Catflap08 ( talk) 18:41, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
To whoever this concerns,
I'm trying to create an equal opportunity for Mr. Roderick Scot as it appears on Wikipedia as they compare to Mr. George Zimmerman. It appears Mr. Scot has significantly less information compared to Mr. Zimmerman - most likely due to the high profiled issues. If you would please post more info in an unbiased manner I would be most appreciative. Mr. Scot has significantly less in his bio than what he should be given credit to. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DRC1015 ( talk • contribs) 08:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Land Tawney ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A newly-created biography of a "liberal activist" that came to my attention via a post on the COI noticeboard [57]. It reads like an attack piece in my opinion, and does little to establish the individual's notability. I'm tempted to at least PROD it, but would welcome a second opinion. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 12:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Jo Frost ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Long-term, ongoing issues with IP-based editors making advertorial and promotional edits. Comments left for IP-based editors and throwaway accounts are ignored. May eventually request semi-protection but additional watchers would be appreciated. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 21:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
2015 University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon racism incident ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
As I'm sure most people have heard, there was an incident at the University of Oklahoma concerning a song sung by members of this fraternity which resulted in the chapter being shut down and two students being expelled. There are other issues that might raise BLP concerns, but my question focuses on these issues:
Some scholars have raised issues related to protections guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. First Amendment law specialist and UCLA Law professor Eugene Volokh asserted that President Boren's actions were unconstitutional and that the University had no legal right to expel the students. [1] Oklahoma State University media law associate professor Joey Senat stated that the chant was offensive but is still protected free speech. [2]
References
Accusing someone of violating another's constitutional rights is a serious accusation, and the sources feel light-weight in that regard. But Volokh is an expert here. And yet - his opinion is in an Op-Ed. The LA Times article has a counterpoint defence of Boren, but it's not in the article. Should it be?
I don't have an outcome I'm looking for people to support or shoot down. But I'm very interested in what thoughts people here might think. Guettarda ( talk) 00:05, 13 March 2015 (UTC)