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I reverted your redirection of the article to A Hameed. The full name is necessary, unless there is really good evidence that the form with the initial is the best known form, which I do not see. Please discuss on the talk p. and get consensus before moving back again. DGG ( talk ) 18:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Per this, I have decided not going to DRV would be the best course of action here ... while I will not be unconvinced that that was the weakest justification for a speedy keep ever, as you noted that would merely serve to intensify things. Instead, I think I'll bring up the general issue of the notability of garments worn once by a single person at WT:N, when I can. Maybe I've lost (for now) the battle over the wedding dress (I still think they would better treated by lists) but the potential for this to really go off the deep end is still there. Daniel Case ( talk) 05:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG. You participated in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 April 13#Ch interpreter. Originally closed as "[n]o consensus = no change to the status quo", the DRV close has amended by the closer to relist. If you would like to participate in the AfD, please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ch interpreter (2nd nomination). Cunard ( talk) 07:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
that you encourage WP:BATTLEGROUND behavior on the part of James Cantor. You should have researched his prior contributions more carefully, including his edits to Karen Franklin. He somehow develops an interest in editing the biographies of precisely those other professionals who disagree with his DSM-5 proposal. You came down like a ton of bricks on some right-wing guys who did similar dancing around COI. I assume you think Cantor's expert contributions to Wikipedia are so vital that we need to have some realpolitik horse trading and allow him to "improve" the biographies of those who disagreed with him (putting a notability tag on them) in exchange for his other contributions. I vaguely remember you were opposed to having that kind of tagged BLPs around in a discussion at WP:VP. Did you change your mind? Tijfo098 ( talk) 19:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Since Cantor deletes my posts from his talk page [1], you leave me no choice but to continue the discussion at ANI. I have made a post there concerning your conduct/position. Tijfo098 ( talk) 21:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
It seems we differ on the importance of the DSM. Medically, fiscally, and especially terminologically, its influence is substantial. In small community libraries in the US, it might be the only source of information on the paraphilias. Even on Wikipedia, it has been argued that homosexuality was never a paraphilia, because the word "paraphilia" was only adopted into the DSM after homosexuality was removed from what would later be the list of paraphilias. Sure, prizes such as the Nobel might be more prestigious, but they generally go to more mainstream efforts, not to those involved with the paraphilias. BitterGrey ( talk) 20:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norbert M. Samuelson. Thanks. Jaque Hammer ( talk) 21:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
The category was removed May 8 by the editor at this diff. I restored it and posted a note to his talk page, as I believe the category has been met by the references in the article which I copied to the user's talk page. Have just received this note regarding the references which were already on the page. I have added another reference re: his Papal knighthood but I think this is going a bit too far with regard to whether or not someone is or was a member of that faith. I do have references which state the family attended Mass every Sunday, but don't believe adding this is encyclopedic. Would appreciate your opinion on this. Thanks, We hope ( talk) 23:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your time and for sharing your opinion. We hope ( talk) 00:26, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I responded to your post, but you seem extremely busy, so I will just comment here. First, thank-you for notifying me about the issues with the Curt's Famous Meats article. I wanted to tell you that I removed some improper references and have tried to make the article more neutral, but I think that the article's subject may make it seem more "biased" then it actually is. Such as, when it says "has worked with the community" or "has won many awards", it may seems biased, but perhaps I just introduced facts in a "positive light". I may be wrong, but I am still working on the article and would like to have assistance from such an expert Wikipedian. If you do not have the time to assist, then could you at-least specify major areas of bias? I have removed some of the adjextives you typed of, but I do not know what else I could remove. This may seem very sudden of a response, but I try to get things done as effeciantly as possible. If you could look over it again and edit it, or give me more details on fixing the article, I would be most pleased. I would also like to continue a discussion with you until the serious issues are mostly resolved. Thank-you for any consideration and thank-you for all the work you have obviously done for Wikipedia. Thank-you. Zach Winkler ( talk) 04:31, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
I would argue that this article needs more than just proper sourcing; it needs more detail about Hedwig herself. Compare the articles about her daughters, which have more information than just family relationships.
Do you know of anywhere to find this kind of info about Hedwig? -- Auntof6 ( talk) 09:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
I agree that sports team's seasons are often notable, but non-notable sports team's seasons are not I would say, which is more or less the case in each of these situations. However, given you've removed the PRODs, I'll have to move onto AfD anyway. Harrias talk 19:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Could you please remove this page. It does not have proper content and will be updated appropriately when I have more reliable sources to provide. Thank you :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evildeadxsp ( talk • contribs) 20:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm trying to use of those templates that make a not appear at the top of a page saying something like "this page is about blah, if you're looking for blah blah, go here". I'm used to editing in WP when it comes to correcting grammar or orthography or adding actual text, but I don't know how to use templates and I think it's high time I learn. Can you help me out with a simple step by step. I already tried the pages on templates and I didn't understand them. Asinthior ( talk) 22:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I see Fram has proposed to ban people from creating articles using geonames, which is absurd I think. The idea as I'm sure you know is that they are added to like Qurchi. If you view on a google map it is actually a fair sized town more than a village.. I found an update to date UN source at least which states the district places are in. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:44, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Well that's just it. You say that "editing ... is not a mechanical process". But in this case, there is bulk creation of articles without editorial discretion you suggest (in the form of a manual attempt to verify from other sources), hence it is for practical purposes a mechanical process (even if not automated). Bongo matic 07:58, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I see Fram has plastered tags all over the entire lot it seems. DO you think the tags in Qasem Khel are warranted? He's added tags on all of them like Pitigal♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:48, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Its completely pointless, a nobody is going to listen to the tags. And the articles end up looking worse in the time being. If he really cares about sources and stubs he should expand them himself. Such a waste of time.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll take the ten first articles tagged so far: Ab Kalak to Ajghan, to get an idea of how widespread the problems are.
So this gives 6 correct articles (minor transliteration differences sometimes), three articles where a village with that name exists, but in a different province, and one that doesn't seem to exist at all.
For the last ten articles starting with a Z, this gives:
So again, we have 5 basically correct articles, and 5 which are located in the wrong province (which is the only info given about these villages in the article, so quite an important aspect...). In total, this check gives 11 correct articles, 8 where the only info in the article is wrong, and one that doesn't seem to exist. Fram ( talk) 08:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
But then again in 2008 Dr. Blofeld supposedly used the real geonames database for his article creation, but e.g. Bidak is according to that database not in Badghis, but in Herat (and slightly to the North of the coordinates given by the article). Perhaps the Geonames database gave different coordinates and a different province in 2008? I checked this article when I encountered the funnily named Bidak (33°N). Fram ( talk) 08:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Another effect of such mechanical article creation is the lack of checks whether another article for the same subject already exists, e.g. Titan, Afghanistan already existed as Titan, Saghar District. Fram ( talk) 11:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Please note that the above-captioned AfD discussion has been initiated (I saw notices posted on Dr Blofeld's talk page and RSN). Bongo matic 08:41, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
You seen Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geographic.org?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:53, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Fram's nomination is extremely exaggerated and he has almost seemingly convinced you here that the errors are pronounced. I've just spent several hours going through some 350 articles to date and you know what? Aside from moving lower casing to capitals which was very easily done, I spotted 2 errors only. And the vast majority of the transliterations match the geonames entry and have the correct coordinates. Geogrpahic.org was not even used to generate the missing Afghan village list it was a 2008 downloaded version of geonames which Fram acknowledges to be reliable! only since 2008 some of the villages have changed province.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:59, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
View Category:Populated places in Aktobe Province for instance. He has done his very best to only identify the flaws, the VAST majority are fine. He's found any errors which have existed and blown it into something way beyond the truth just because he didn't get his own way at the AFD. The one flaw of Akbobe? We had duplicates for Komsomloskye. View it on a google earth here ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:24, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Removing articles from the AfD is extremely simple, and happens constantly. Part of this is done by redirecting articles to another one, part of this is done by deleting articles, and part of this is done by solving the problems and/or identifying the correct ones. I have no ambitions to delete articles which have been corrected, even though I still believe (and am clearly not alone in that view) that having them deleted and starting again from scratch would have been easier and more productive.
And Dr. Blofeld, that I only give one example of an error doesn't mean that there aren't more. "He's found any errors which have existed and blown it into something way beyond the truth just because he didn't get his own way at the AFD. The one flaw of Akbobe? We had duplicates for Komsomloskye." It took my five seconds to find another error at Category:Populated places in Aktobe Province: Kyrykkuduk and Qyryqqudyq are the same place. And there are clearly more duplicates in that category to be found. Fram ( talk) 07:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Duplicates are hardly a cause to delete the entire lot.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I've deleted the remainder.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this scholar passes WP:ACADEMIC. What do you think? Bearian ( talk) 16:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
...please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Superbradyon (2nd nomination). Drmies ( talk) 02:19, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Dear DGG, Thanks for the valid request and saving the page from deletion. Sorry for the brief startup page on Tamas Horvath (mathematical informatics); it is my fault. Now, it is enriched with references and links. Note, the list of papers in the website are 'selected papers; it is a strongly incomplete list. These are the recent papers of high impact. Also note: in the computer science field conference papers are often more important than journal papers. Observe his activities as conference organizer, editor, committee member, too. Any of these guarantees notability because only a very small fraction of active scientists gets to be an editor or chair of a conference. We are talking about a high-profile scientist here. Many wiki entries features less notable people. Can you remove the tags?
Thanks in advance, and sorry for the brief initial page; my fault. Repep ( talk) 18:39, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the useful formatting comments; I will try to get the dates, etc. and improve the format. Final remark: The conference which he chaired earlier and where he is in the steering committee now, is a high-profile one. Repep ( talk) 00:24, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG. Would you sign your comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Timeshift9? Cunard ( talk) 07:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, just to let you know that I nominated this BLP expansion at DYK and gave you co-credit. I'm surprised the AFD hasn't closed by now. Best, Yoninah ( talk) 19:14, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Not sure if this violates Wikipedia policy or not, but I have concerns over the user name AFD hero, which at the very least, sounds like an agenda. I wanted your opinion before stirring the pot. Dennis Brown ( talk) 19:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
On 19 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Norbert M. Samuelson, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Arizona State Jewish studies professor Norbert M. Samuelson, who lectures at university-level conferences around the world, gives a weekly class on Maimonides's Mishneh Torah to rabbis in Phoenix? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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While I normally appreciate your CSD work, I have to bring up a few points with Sandusky (automobile company), specifically the edit summary you used.
As said, I appreciate the good work you do. But if you were basing it on "I think", notability is not the test. If you were basing it on "I have found some evidence that it is", you should have provided the sources. A failure to follow optional due dilligence guidelines does not exempt somebody seeking for others to follow them from doing so himself Ironholds ( talk) 00:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Dear DGG, A friend told me that you're a WP expert who can clarify even question from dummies. Here's a dummy puzzlement. In the bio box for living people, they always display birth date and age. With BD any 3rd grader and above can calculate the age. Why the fuss which needs to be updated every year. Worse yet, in some cultures they calculate age differently. Some follow math'l rule, i.e., 21.5 or more becomes 22. Some, I was told, have no zero age, thus becomes 2 on their 1st BD. Pls enlighten. You can reply on this page so others can also benefit. -- Daikang59 ( talk) 21:50, 19 May 2011 (UTC) Daikang59
But could you poke your head in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maledicta? -- Orange Mike | Talk 14:32, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Had you noticed this has reopened? I only did today. I stopped looking in after discussion faded away. Now I've put it on my watchlist. I've just checked and find the preceding one was opened just over two years ago and has still not been closed and archived. Peter jackson ( talk) 14:51, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Glad to meet you today at GLAMcamp! I look forward to receiving the material you mentioned. Trouver ( talk) 18:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
"I'm reluctant to mention this AfD to my non-Wikipedian friends, as I don't want them to make fun of me for engaging a project where people argue for deleting articles like this."
Well said. In this situation and in one or two others I am seeing right now, I am seeing the BLP policy or policies such as "not news" being used to try to delete articles that common sense would dictate people desperately want to read and there are myriad reliable sources for. I've always been pretty deletionist, but I feel like the project's tendency to delete content merely because it is merely incomplete or not quite perfect yet is making us lose our grasp on not just our roots, but on reality. I even find myself doing it. It's yet another sneaking feeling that I've had which suggests that we need a maintenance phase not just in mainspace content, but in trimming, condensing, and applying common sense to the huge number of policies and guidelines which allow people to rules lawyer their way into whatever result they desire. Steven Walling 06:43, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG, would you mind revising your comment based on this? Thanks and regards, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:45, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG, you deleted the page however I do not see consensus. Only the subject of the page (Tamas Horvath) but neither the creator or the subsequent authors of the page nominated deletion. Can a Subject request deletion of a page about himself written by others? I thought the subject could only request improvements if the info is incorrect. Can you point out a relevant rule? I guess, wiki is like a newspaper article. The subject cannot stop or delete it only if it contains false information. However, the subject here had no such argument just that he does not want a wiki page about him. Can you clarify? Thanks, Repep ( talk) 19:25, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
This sort of situation occurs fairly often- We have a policy against withdrawing articles at the request of the subject unless there are special considerations: if we did, some people especially in fields involving some degree of controversy or public attention would insist on withdrawing any article which showed them in a light other than the one they wished to be shown--the effect of this would be to let the subject censor their article. We get many requests with such motivations, and of course we turn them down.
One of the special cases is with people of really borderline notability who request removal as they think them non-notable. This can be done quietly by various means if unchallenged, but if challenged, it does requires a public discussion--unless the article can be shown to actually be harmful. In that discussion the views of the subject can optionally be considered, but do not have to be.
I think the subject rather clearly fall into the class of unclear "notability" ("notability" as we use it is a term of art not necessarily correlated to actual importance). It's sufficiently unclear that I could make a plausible argument at such a discussion either for keeping the article, or deleting it, I am not sure what I would say in this case: In any event, what would happen depends on what other people say, and although I cannot predict the results, I think it highly likely that if I were to argue against this article, the article would be deleted, & if I argued for keeping, it's 50-50. In general, our accepted level according to WP:PROF usually in practice corresponds to full professor at a major research university, and I doubt he'd be considered at that level. My own personal view is that Wikipedia should expand the definition of academic notability to a considerably broader scope, but as we have not done so and do not seem likely to do so, it is unfair and unreasonable to single out a few individuals because either they or their friends want to make a case for them.
I understand the person is your friend , though in a different subject. I urge you to seriously consider whether you really wish to have the article reinstated, as it will in that case be followed by a discussion which is likely to be embarrassing to all concerned. If that is what you want, I shall have to do it. I would really appreciate it if you would activate your email from your user preferences page. DGG ( talk ) 19:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
OK, thanks, I see and understand; it is fine as it is. The situation is that he is indeed a friend and, surprisingly, he got extremely agitated, when he saw the page. He became wild and started to act as a wiki-vandal, as it was noted. My note was dubious because, on one hand, I wanted to please him, on the other hand, I did not want to violate any wiki rule or practice. But your explanation makes it clear that this is a kind of common practice with living persons, thus everything looks fine. Note: he is notable; his permanent position at Fraunhofer corresponds to a young full prof level at a good university. He could have done his habilitation (German acadmic title) already 10 year ago but he is lazy to do such things. But now he is forced to do it and will have it this year. Thanks, Repep ( talk) 20:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Just wanted to let you know that a new proposal has been made in a thread you contributed to at AN/I concerning the possibility of prohibiting a user from initiating actions at AN, AN/I, or WQA. Thanks, – OhioStandard ( talk) 06:46, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG! You recently declined my speedy deletion regarding J.C. Maçek III and replaced it with a prod based on the content of the article. When I first reviewed the article, I thought that as well. However, the website that the article claims the subject is the "editor-in chief and head writer of" is, in fact, the subject's own website with no other contributers. Basically, the subject has his own website, posts his own reviewes, and there are no third-party sources supporting any importance. It seems to me that there is no credible claim of importance or significance, and hence a speedy deletion under A7. Singularity42 ( talk) 02:30, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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I was a bit troubled by the comments you made on the Rfarb page, but I am relieved by your striking (I was not missing something significant when I reviewed the matter after all!) I do think it was nice of you to offer your apologies with it. Ncmvocalist ( talk) 04:19, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Any ideas DGG if Marjan Bojadziev is notable? I'm convinced he easily meets requirements but as you can see, others diagree.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Cuisine of Montevideo was nominated for deletion at the same time.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG--would you mind having a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luis González-Mestres? It's a delicate situation, I think, and the deletion discussion could do with a couple more opinions. Thanks, Drmies ( talk) 04:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
If you have time, could you check your usual sources for The Tower (crime novel)? Worldcat shows 67 holdings in Australia (author is Australian), 1 in US, 0 in UK. Google News as usual shows almost nothing; apparently, though, the book was condensed and serialized in the Sydney Morning Herald. Regular Google shows a smattering of reviews, although they all seem to be on unreliable sites (i.e., just random customer reviews). I can no longer access Amazon at work, so I can't check reviews there. I appreciate the help if you have time. Qwyrxian ( talk) 04:12, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
In the Clifford Kubiak ANI thread you had mentioned you were concerned with protecting an article you had written yourself. Once you do have the new article up, feel free to drop me a note and I will add the protection for you if you'd like. Cheers, -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 13:38, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG -- I was wondering what steps I could take to restoring the page, Games Learning Society that was marked for speedy deletion. In the talk page I offered 3rd party references (The AV club, The journal of media literacy, and the Isthmus). I also included links to academics of note (that have existing, and valid, wikipedia pages). Were these references insufficient to mark the Games Learning Society as notable? If so, could you please give me some guidance as to what other references would be notable? Thank you very much for your help! -- Cheetahxing ( talk) 23:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Can you comment here. I've proposed a list of say 1000 of the most popular searched for articles in the search engine but which are without articles. Tibetan Prayer ᧾ 16:27, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey there. I've run into your contributions more than a few times in the AfD circuit and have probably been in disagreement with you at least as often as I've been in agreement on what constitutes notability, but I do know you to be very sincere in your efforts to simply improve the project. Anyway. I know you to be one who makes a very good-faith effort to find sourcing for articles under AfD review. I also know you to be a librarian who recently compelled a rapid shift towards inclusion by finding copious offline sourcing in an AfD that was having a hard time finding consensus. I'm curious to see what you think of the above-referenced AfD. If you have the time, please take a look at it. Somewhere between tantalizing GNews results behind paywalls, the opinions of well-respected editors in the AfD, and wonderfully sincere efforts by the article's author, I suspect there's notability-conferring sourcing to be found. Any advice or assistance that you can offer would be greatly appreciated -- even if it's "lay off, he's not notable." Best regards. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ bomb 02:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi David. Looks as if some refs you added were deleted by a possible vandal but I'm unable to unravel it. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 12:14, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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DO NOT ENTER NEW ITEMS HERE--use User talk:DGG
I reverted your redirection of the article to A Hameed. The full name is necessary, unless there is really good evidence that the form with the initial is the best known form, which I do not see. Please discuss on the talk p. and get consensus before moving back again. DGG ( talk ) 18:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Per this, I have decided not going to DRV would be the best course of action here ... while I will not be unconvinced that that was the weakest justification for a speedy keep ever, as you noted that would merely serve to intensify things. Instead, I think I'll bring up the general issue of the notability of garments worn once by a single person at WT:N, when I can. Maybe I've lost (for now) the battle over the wedding dress (I still think they would better treated by lists) but the potential for this to really go off the deep end is still there. Daniel Case ( talk) 05:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG. You participated in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 April 13#Ch interpreter. Originally closed as "[n]o consensus = no change to the status quo", the DRV close has amended by the closer to relist. If you would like to participate in the AfD, please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ch interpreter (2nd nomination). Cunard ( talk) 07:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
that you encourage WP:BATTLEGROUND behavior on the part of James Cantor. You should have researched his prior contributions more carefully, including his edits to Karen Franklin. He somehow develops an interest in editing the biographies of precisely those other professionals who disagree with his DSM-5 proposal. You came down like a ton of bricks on some right-wing guys who did similar dancing around COI. I assume you think Cantor's expert contributions to Wikipedia are so vital that we need to have some realpolitik horse trading and allow him to "improve" the biographies of those who disagreed with him (putting a notability tag on them) in exchange for his other contributions. I vaguely remember you were opposed to having that kind of tagged BLPs around in a discussion at WP:VP. Did you change your mind? Tijfo098 ( talk) 19:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Since Cantor deletes my posts from his talk page [1], you leave me no choice but to continue the discussion at ANI. I have made a post there concerning your conduct/position. Tijfo098 ( talk) 21:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
It seems we differ on the importance of the DSM. Medically, fiscally, and especially terminologically, its influence is substantial. In small community libraries in the US, it might be the only source of information on the paraphilias. Even on Wikipedia, it has been argued that homosexuality was never a paraphilia, because the word "paraphilia" was only adopted into the DSM after homosexuality was removed from what would later be the list of paraphilias. Sure, prizes such as the Nobel might be more prestigious, but they generally go to more mainstream efforts, not to those involved with the paraphilias. BitterGrey ( talk) 20:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norbert M. Samuelson. Thanks. Jaque Hammer ( talk) 21:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
The category was removed May 8 by the editor at this diff. I restored it and posted a note to his talk page, as I believe the category has been met by the references in the article which I copied to the user's talk page. Have just received this note regarding the references which were already on the page. I have added another reference re: his Papal knighthood but I think this is going a bit too far with regard to whether or not someone is or was a member of that faith. I do have references which state the family attended Mass every Sunday, but don't believe adding this is encyclopedic. Would appreciate your opinion on this. Thanks, We hope ( talk) 23:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your time and for sharing your opinion. We hope ( talk) 00:26, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I responded to your post, but you seem extremely busy, so I will just comment here. First, thank-you for notifying me about the issues with the Curt's Famous Meats article. I wanted to tell you that I removed some improper references and have tried to make the article more neutral, but I think that the article's subject may make it seem more "biased" then it actually is. Such as, when it says "has worked with the community" or "has won many awards", it may seems biased, but perhaps I just introduced facts in a "positive light". I may be wrong, but I am still working on the article and would like to have assistance from such an expert Wikipedian. If you do not have the time to assist, then could you at-least specify major areas of bias? I have removed some of the adjextives you typed of, but I do not know what else I could remove. This may seem very sudden of a response, but I try to get things done as effeciantly as possible. If you could look over it again and edit it, or give me more details on fixing the article, I would be most pleased. I would also like to continue a discussion with you until the serious issues are mostly resolved. Thank-you for any consideration and thank-you for all the work you have obviously done for Wikipedia. Thank-you. Zach Winkler ( talk) 04:31, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
I would argue that this article needs more than just proper sourcing; it needs more detail about Hedwig herself. Compare the articles about her daughters, which have more information than just family relationships.
Do you know of anywhere to find this kind of info about Hedwig? -- Auntof6 ( talk) 09:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
I agree that sports team's seasons are often notable, but non-notable sports team's seasons are not I would say, which is more or less the case in each of these situations. However, given you've removed the PRODs, I'll have to move onto AfD anyway. Harrias talk 19:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Could you please remove this page. It does not have proper content and will be updated appropriately when I have more reliable sources to provide. Thank you :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evildeadxsp ( talk • contribs) 20:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm trying to use of those templates that make a not appear at the top of a page saying something like "this page is about blah, if you're looking for blah blah, go here". I'm used to editing in WP when it comes to correcting grammar or orthography or adding actual text, but I don't know how to use templates and I think it's high time I learn. Can you help me out with a simple step by step. I already tried the pages on templates and I didn't understand them. Asinthior ( talk) 22:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I see Fram has proposed to ban people from creating articles using geonames, which is absurd I think. The idea as I'm sure you know is that they are added to like Qurchi. If you view on a google map it is actually a fair sized town more than a village.. I found an update to date UN source at least which states the district places are in. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:44, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Well that's just it. You say that "editing ... is not a mechanical process". But in this case, there is bulk creation of articles without editorial discretion you suggest (in the form of a manual attempt to verify from other sources), hence it is for practical purposes a mechanical process (even if not automated). Bongo matic 07:58, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I see Fram has plastered tags all over the entire lot it seems. DO you think the tags in Qasem Khel are warranted? He's added tags on all of them like Pitigal♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:48, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Its completely pointless, a nobody is going to listen to the tags. And the articles end up looking worse in the time being. If he really cares about sources and stubs he should expand them himself. Such a waste of time.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll take the ten first articles tagged so far: Ab Kalak to Ajghan, to get an idea of how widespread the problems are.
So this gives 6 correct articles (minor transliteration differences sometimes), three articles where a village with that name exists, but in a different province, and one that doesn't seem to exist at all.
For the last ten articles starting with a Z, this gives:
So again, we have 5 basically correct articles, and 5 which are located in the wrong province (which is the only info given about these villages in the article, so quite an important aspect...). In total, this check gives 11 correct articles, 8 where the only info in the article is wrong, and one that doesn't seem to exist. Fram ( talk) 08:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
But then again in 2008 Dr. Blofeld supposedly used the real geonames database for his article creation, but e.g. Bidak is according to that database not in Badghis, but in Herat (and slightly to the North of the coordinates given by the article). Perhaps the Geonames database gave different coordinates and a different province in 2008? I checked this article when I encountered the funnily named Bidak (33°N). Fram ( talk) 08:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Another effect of such mechanical article creation is the lack of checks whether another article for the same subject already exists, e.g. Titan, Afghanistan already existed as Titan, Saghar District. Fram ( talk) 11:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Please note that the above-captioned AfD discussion has been initiated (I saw notices posted on Dr Blofeld's talk page and RSN). Bongo matic 08:41, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
You seen Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geographic.org?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:53, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Fram's nomination is extremely exaggerated and he has almost seemingly convinced you here that the errors are pronounced. I've just spent several hours going through some 350 articles to date and you know what? Aside from moving lower casing to capitals which was very easily done, I spotted 2 errors only. And the vast majority of the transliterations match the geonames entry and have the correct coordinates. Geogrpahic.org was not even used to generate the missing Afghan village list it was a 2008 downloaded version of geonames which Fram acknowledges to be reliable! only since 2008 some of the villages have changed province.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:59, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
View Category:Populated places in Aktobe Province for instance. He has done his very best to only identify the flaws, the VAST majority are fine. He's found any errors which have existed and blown it into something way beyond the truth just because he didn't get his own way at the AFD. The one flaw of Akbobe? We had duplicates for Komsomloskye. View it on a google earth here ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:24, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Removing articles from the AfD is extremely simple, and happens constantly. Part of this is done by redirecting articles to another one, part of this is done by deleting articles, and part of this is done by solving the problems and/or identifying the correct ones. I have no ambitions to delete articles which have been corrected, even though I still believe (and am clearly not alone in that view) that having them deleted and starting again from scratch would have been easier and more productive.
And Dr. Blofeld, that I only give one example of an error doesn't mean that there aren't more. "He's found any errors which have existed and blown it into something way beyond the truth just because he didn't get his own way at the AFD. The one flaw of Akbobe? We had duplicates for Komsomloskye." It took my five seconds to find another error at Category:Populated places in Aktobe Province: Kyrykkuduk and Qyryqqudyq are the same place. And there are clearly more duplicates in that category to be found. Fram ( talk) 07:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Duplicates are hardly a cause to delete the entire lot.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I've deleted the remainder.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this scholar passes WP:ACADEMIC. What do you think? Bearian ( talk) 16:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
...please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Superbradyon (2nd nomination). Drmies ( talk) 02:19, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Dear DGG, Thanks for the valid request and saving the page from deletion. Sorry for the brief startup page on Tamas Horvath (mathematical informatics); it is my fault. Now, it is enriched with references and links. Note, the list of papers in the website are 'selected papers; it is a strongly incomplete list. These are the recent papers of high impact. Also note: in the computer science field conference papers are often more important than journal papers. Observe his activities as conference organizer, editor, committee member, too. Any of these guarantees notability because only a very small fraction of active scientists gets to be an editor or chair of a conference. We are talking about a high-profile scientist here. Many wiki entries features less notable people. Can you remove the tags?
Thanks in advance, and sorry for the brief initial page; my fault. Repep ( talk) 18:39, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the useful formatting comments; I will try to get the dates, etc. and improve the format. Final remark: The conference which he chaired earlier and where he is in the steering committee now, is a high-profile one. Repep ( talk) 00:24, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG. Would you sign your comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Timeshift9? Cunard ( talk) 07:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, just to let you know that I nominated this BLP expansion at DYK and gave you co-credit. I'm surprised the AFD hasn't closed by now. Best, Yoninah ( talk) 19:14, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Not sure if this violates Wikipedia policy or not, but I have concerns over the user name AFD hero, which at the very least, sounds like an agenda. I wanted your opinion before stirring the pot. Dennis Brown ( talk) 19:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
On 19 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Norbert M. Samuelson, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Arizona State Jewish studies professor Norbert M. Samuelson, who lectures at university-level conferences around the world, gives a weekly class on Maimonides's Mishneh Torah to rabbis in Phoenix? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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While I normally appreciate your CSD work, I have to bring up a few points with Sandusky (automobile company), specifically the edit summary you used.
As said, I appreciate the good work you do. But if you were basing it on "I think", notability is not the test. If you were basing it on "I have found some evidence that it is", you should have provided the sources. A failure to follow optional due dilligence guidelines does not exempt somebody seeking for others to follow them from doing so himself Ironholds ( talk) 00:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Dear DGG, A friend told me that you're a WP expert who can clarify even question from dummies. Here's a dummy puzzlement. In the bio box for living people, they always display birth date and age. With BD any 3rd grader and above can calculate the age. Why the fuss which needs to be updated every year. Worse yet, in some cultures they calculate age differently. Some follow math'l rule, i.e., 21.5 or more becomes 22. Some, I was told, have no zero age, thus becomes 2 on their 1st BD. Pls enlighten. You can reply on this page so others can also benefit. -- Daikang59 ( talk) 21:50, 19 May 2011 (UTC) Daikang59
But could you poke your head in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maledicta? -- Orange Mike | Talk 14:32, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Had you noticed this has reopened? I only did today. I stopped looking in after discussion faded away. Now I've put it on my watchlist. I've just checked and find the preceding one was opened just over two years ago and has still not been closed and archived. Peter jackson ( talk) 14:51, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Glad to meet you today at GLAMcamp! I look forward to receiving the material you mentioned. Trouver ( talk) 18:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
"I'm reluctant to mention this AfD to my non-Wikipedian friends, as I don't want them to make fun of me for engaging a project where people argue for deleting articles like this."
Well said. In this situation and in one or two others I am seeing right now, I am seeing the BLP policy or policies such as "not news" being used to try to delete articles that common sense would dictate people desperately want to read and there are myriad reliable sources for. I've always been pretty deletionist, but I feel like the project's tendency to delete content merely because it is merely incomplete or not quite perfect yet is making us lose our grasp on not just our roots, but on reality. I even find myself doing it. It's yet another sneaking feeling that I've had which suggests that we need a maintenance phase not just in mainspace content, but in trimming, condensing, and applying common sense to the huge number of policies and guidelines which allow people to rules lawyer their way into whatever result they desire. Steven Walling 06:43, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG, would you mind revising your comment based on this? Thanks and regards, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:45, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG, you deleted the page however I do not see consensus. Only the subject of the page (Tamas Horvath) but neither the creator or the subsequent authors of the page nominated deletion. Can a Subject request deletion of a page about himself written by others? I thought the subject could only request improvements if the info is incorrect. Can you point out a relevant rule? I guess, wiki is like a newspaper article. The subject cannot stop or delete it only if it contains false information. However, the subject here had no such argument just that he does not want a wiki page about him. Can you clarify? Thanks, Repep ( talk) 19:25, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
This sort of situation occurs fairly often- We have a policy against withdrawing articles at the request of the subject unless there are special considerations: if we did, some people especially in fields involving some degree of controversy or public attention would insist on withdrawing any article which showed them in a light other than the one they wished to be shown--the effect of this would be to let the subject censor their article. We get many requests with such motivations, and of course we turn them down.
One of the special cases is with people of really borderline notability who request removal as they think them non-notable. This can be done quietly by various means if unchallenged, but if challenged, it does requires a public discussion--unless the article can be shown to actually be harmful. In that discussion the views of the subject can optionally be considered, but do not have to be.
I think the subject rather clearly fall into the class of unclear "notability" ("notability" as we use it is a term of art not necessarily correlated to actual importance). It's sufficiently unclear that I could make a plausible argument at such a discussion either for keeping the article, or deleting it, I am not sure what I would say in this case: In any event, what would happen depends on what other people say, and although I cannot predict the results, I think it highly likely that if I were to argue against this article, the article would be deleted, & if I argued for keeping, it's 50-50. In general, our accepted level according to WP:PROF usually in practice corresponds to full professor at a major research university, and I doubt he'd be considered at that level. My own personal view is that Wikipedia should expand the definition of academic notability to a considerably broader scope, but as we have not done so and do not seem likely to do so, it is unfair and unreasonable to single out a few individuals because either they or their friends want to make a case for them.
I understand the person is your friend , though in a different subject. I urge you to seriously consider whether you really wish to have the article reinstated, as it will in that case be followed by a discussion which is likely to be embarrassing to all concerned. If that is what you want, I shall have to do it. I would really appreciate it if you would activate your email from your user preferences page. DGG ( talk ) 19:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
OK, thanks, I see and understand; it is fine as it is. The situation is that he is indeed a friend and, surprisingly, he got extremely agitated, when he saw the page. He became wild and started to act as a wiki-vandal, as it was noted. My note was dubious because, on one hand, I wanted to please him, on the other hand, I did not want to violate any wiki rule or practice. But your explanation makes it clear that this is a kind of common practice with living persons, thus everything looks fine. Note: he is notable; his permanent position at Fraunhofer corresponds to a young full prof level at a good university. He could have done his habilitation (German acadmic title) already 10 year ago but he is lazy to do such things. But now he is forced to do it and will have it this year. Thanks, Repep ( talk) 20:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Just wanted to let you know that a new proposal has been made in a thread you contributed to at AN/I concerning the possibility of prohibiting a user from initiating actions at AN, AN/I, or WQA. Thanks, – OhioStandard ( talk) 06:46, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG! You recently declined my speedy deletion regarding J.C. Maçek III and replaced it with a prod based on the content of the article. When I first reviewed the article, I thought that as well. However, the website that the article claims the subject is the "editor-in chief and head writer of" is, in fact, the subject's own website with no other contributers. Basically, the subject has his own website, posts his own reviewes, and there are no third-party sources supporting any importance. It seems to me that there is no credible claim of importance or significance, and hence a speedy deletion under A7. Singularity42 ( talk) 02:30, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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I was a bit troubled by the comments you made on the Rfarb page, but I am relieved by your striking (I was not missing something significant when I reviewed the matter after all!) I do think it was nice of you to offer your apologies with it. Ncmvocalist ( talk) 04:19, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Any ideas DGG if Marjan Bojadziev is notable? I'm convinced he easily meets requirements but as you can see, others diagree.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Cuisine of Montevideo was nominated for deletion at the same time.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG--would you mind having a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luis González-Mestres? It's a delicate situation, I think, and the deletion discussion could do with a couple more opinions. Thanks, Drmies ( talk) 04:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
If you have time, could you check your usual sources for The Tower (crime novel)? Worldcat shows 67 holdings in Australia (author is Australian), 1 in US, 0 in UK. Google News as usual shows almost nothing; apparently, though, the book was condensed and serialized in the Sydney Morning Herald. Regular Google shows a smattering of reviews, although they all seem to be on unreliable sites (i.e., just random customer reviews). I can no longer access Amazon at work, so I can't check reviews there. I appreciate the help if you have time. Qwyrxian ( talk) 04:12, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
In the Clifford Kubiak ANI thread you had mentioned you were concerned with protecting an article you had written yourself. Once you do have the new article up, feel free to drop me a note and I will add the protection for you if you'd like. Cheers, -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 13:38, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG -- I was wondering what steps I could take to restoring the page, Games Learning Society that was marked for speedy deletion. In the talk page I offered 3rd party references (The AV club, The journal of media literacy, and the Isthmus). I also included links to academics of note (that have existing, and valid, wikipedia pages). Were these references insufficient to mark the Games Learning Society as notable? If so, could you please give me some guidance as to what other references would be notable? Thank you very much for your help! -- Cheetahxing ( talk) 23:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Can you comment here. I've proposed a list of say 1000 of the most popular searched for articles in the search engine but which are without articles. Tibetan Prayer ᧾ 16:27, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey there. I've run into your contributions more than a few times in the AfD circuit and have probably been in disagreement with you at least as often as I've been in agreement on what constitutes notability, but I do know you to be very sincere in your efforts to simply improve the project. Anyway. I know you to be one who makes a very good-faith effort to find sourcing for articles under AfD review. I also know you to be a librarian who recently compelled a rapid shift towards inclusion by finding copious offline sourcing in an AfD that was having a hard time finding consensus. I'm curious to see what you think of the above-referenced AfD. If you have the time, please take a look at it. Somewhere between tantalizing GNews results behind paywalls, the opinions of well-respected editors in the AfD, and wonderfully sincere efforts by the article's author, I suspect there's notability-conferring sourcing to be found. Any advice or assistance that you can offer would be greatly appreciated -- even if it's "lay off, he's not notable." Best regards. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ bomb 02:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi David. Looks as if some refs you added were deleted by a possible vandal but I'm unable to unravel it. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 12:14, 31 May 2011 (UTC)