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Is this scholar notable? Bearian ( talk) 00:08, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi DGG, I wish you'd reconsider your deprodding and voting keep for these buildings in Dubai. The most important point is that they don't exist. They are proposals, which given the total collapse of the Dubai building market means they will never be built. Glittering Pillars ( talk) 09:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Dear David, You have always been such a wise sage on Wiki matters. Perhaps you can enlighten me on this topic. I have been a loyal supporter of Wiki, with previous donations. But the jump from $6M in 2008 to $7.5M this year puzzled me. In the current recessive financial climate, a 25% increase reminds people of those insensitive fat cats on Wall St. I went to the donation page and clicked "discussion" to voice my opinion, but there seems to be no place to add text. They only publish the glowing praises and eagerness to donate. What do you think? EJ -- EJohn59 ( talk) 18:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you David. I donated $20 and voiced my concern, which is basically one of timely sensitivity. EJ-- EJohn59 ( talk) 01:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, it's not normally like me to close such debates, but I felt I had a responsibility there. I can only hope that I made the right decision ... and for the right reasons. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 23:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi David. I haven't had many occasions to interact with you of late, but I wanted to express my appreciation for your good work on the encyclopedia. Take care and enjoy your holidays. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 21:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey David, I have updated the article with your comments in mind and have added a reference of Adam Lyons appearing on CBS. Any thoughts on this, and improving the article would be good. It might just be the effort I have put into the article talking, but I am convinced the notability is good enough! Anyway, I hope the update has improved the article somewhat DRosin ( talk) 23:08, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I thought you might be interested to peruse User:Sherurcij/books; it's just an informal listing of books that "we", being the few who seem to constantly find ourselves in terrorist biographies, may find appealing. I'd like to list the "bad" books as well as the "good" ones so that we know where we can invest money in knowledge, not waste it in vain. If you have a couple books yourself to add to the list (or want to add an alternate review of a book where you violently disagree with my characterization), please feel free - I may import it over to Wikiproject:Terrorism in the future if it becomes a viable resource. Please do limit it only to books you have read cover-to-cover, not ones you have only cherrypicked through for information. Thanks! Sherurcij ( speaker for the dead) 21:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm glad you like it. Feel free to use it as much as you like, just so long as you change the link from my talk page to yours (heh, heh) . Kind regards, Spitfire Tally-ho! 19:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I simply repeated the reason it was deleted for previously. So what does apply? Eeekster ( talk) 04:52, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
(Dec 7)
David, I was thinking that the WP:VPM discussion I linked above may interest you with regards to Wikipedia and research, being a librarian and all that. MuZemike 21:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
This is a bit of boilerplate with which I'm contacting the folks most involved in the original discussion. I have no vested interest in the outcome. Hi, it's been nearly three years, but maybe you remember the fuss over the dab page Les Balsiger and the article Les Balsiger (activist). In a nutshell, to the best of my recollection, a college administrator with the same name as an anti-Catholic activist contacted Wikipedia after attempting to disambiguate himself from the activist. The administrator is a fine person, but as-of-yet non-notable.
In what was more-or-less an official Wikimedia Foundation action by User:BradPatrick, who was the foundation's legal counsel at the time, it was determined that a dab page should be created despite the fact that it didn't fit in with MOS:DABRL. Now a user insists that the Les Balsiger (activist) page be redirected to the Les Balsiger dab page. That is the current state of pages. I didn't agree with the initial decision that we needed a dab page, but I wish to uphold the decision made at the Afd. Should we reopen the Afd, or has the issue run its course?
Here are some links to the relevant history (not necessarily in chronological order): Talk:Les Balsiger (activist), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger (disambiguation), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive173#Previously deleted Les Balsiger article reincarnated as a defamatory attack article -- on the wrong target?, and this short note regarding closing the Afd on the dab page.
Brad Patrick indicates that he's no longer to be contacted about Wikipedia legal matters, so I will be e-mailing this message to Mike Godwin via info-en at wikimedia dot org.
If the pages are kept in their current state, a history page merge may be in order and/or the talk pages need to be put in the correct places.
Let's discuss this at Talk:Les Balsiger (disambiguation) to keep it all in once place.
P.S. DGG, I know you weren't that involved in this, but I saw your name in one of the Afds and I always value your opinion. (Even if I don't always agree!) Cheers, Katr67 ( talk) 18:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I am new at dealing with the admin buttons, and wonder why you did not remove the CSD template when adding the GNU documentation to that article. The source does not itself appear to be in violation of copyright, which I thought would make the copy here legitimate once attribution is satisfied (well, and notability, but that is not a speedy deletion issue). Regards, - 2/0 ( cont.) 00:09, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I sent this article to WP:Copyright violations. The source is released under GFDL 1.2 only which per WP:Licensing update#Content restrictions is considered a copyright violation. -- Bluemask ( talk) 04:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell us your opinion of this author (also known as Ove Michaelsen), please? Bearian ( talk) 21:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I've had a go at cleaning up the above article. If you would like to have another look to see whether this affects your comments at the AfD that would be great. Cheers. Quantpole ( talk) 10:12, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Turqoise127 ( talk) 15:14, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
can you please vote again on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Uwe_Kils_(3rd_nomination). Best wishes Uwe Kils 15:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Turqoise127 ( talk) 15:14, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
== Provocation? ==
Hi DGG
Your follow-up to this comment suggested that it was a "provocation". Do you care to clarify? My comment was a response to an implicit intention to move the article in question to mainspace, which will almost surely result in an AfD nomination (whether or not mine) given the topic's history.
Regards, Bongo matic 02:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I think you have the wrong user. I didn't understand your comment. Jmckeon ie ( talk) 07:23, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
A while back ago, you were involved in a discussion about how to refer to the United States Geographical locations on wikipedia. A similar discussion is taking place here. Any comments on this topic would be helpful.-- Jojhutton ( talk) 00:48, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello, DGG! This is just a note thanking you for participating in my
recent Request for Adminship, which passed with a total of 93 support !votes, 1 oppose and 3 editors remaining neutral. While frankly overwhelmed by the level of support, I humbly thank the community for the trust it has placed in me, and vow to use the tools judiciously and without malice. |
Thanks for rescuing the British International School of Stavanger from speedy deletion! I like librarians! Janbrogger ( talk) 09:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed you responded to both AfDs (that one and the Johanna one) on the Kaspar AfD. You might want to put a reference on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johanna van Beethoven because I worry that someone closing the two separately could overlook your comment that's directed towards it. Shadowjams ( talk) 19:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
DGG, you're a sharp reader with great reserves of patience and whose opinions (if any) on Brazilian matters are completely unknown to me; can I invite you as either editor or administrator (preferably not both) to look at Talk:White Brazilian (also currently near the top of WP:AN/I)?
(I'm sending a related message to Orlady.) -- Hoary ( talk) 01:54, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
You were involved in a discussion regarding the use of copyrighted architectural designs on Wikipedia pages and I'm trying to find community consensus on a gray area. If you can, please let me know at what point you feel these images should be replaced here. Thank you so much! DR04 ( talk) 19:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I saw your thoughtful comment on ANI. To me, BLP is a balance. I'm a little surprised that the article, with potential BLP problems, became a FA with not very much discussion about BLP. (disclaimer: on the other hand, I haven't submitted an article to become FA). Maybe the review process is centered too much on technical issues and not much overall consideration. Some reviews are so focused on getting the references in the right order and grammatical errors that the larger issues may not be covered.
It's not my goal to censor articles nor to promote the latest in hot gossip and negative information. I'm just a little interested in getting BLP issues addressed in any article. Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 16:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I submitted my block to discussion, and adjusted it in line with consensus on ANI. If you unilaterally unblock now, you are ignoring that consensus and liable to cause more drama. Make your case on ANI, and I, for one, will respect consensus.-- Scott Mac (Doc) 17:56, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Since I know you have in the past expressed a positive interest in the Saga of the Skolian Empire, I though I'd inform you about this discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jagernaut. Debresser ( talk) 15:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated the above page for deletion here, back in 2007 you participated in another AfD on the same page here the result of which was to delete. Just thought I should let you know. Codf1977 ( talk) 17:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Nikolai Bezroukov Hi Dgg, did you see this I added the search template and there was some primary stuff but little or no third party reliable sources. Off2riorob ( talk) 23:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
TrutherTruther seems to be back to editing the Schlessinger page once again - now as 'ScienceAndTruth'. The edits are the same - trying to push the horribly defamatory 'wikileaks' link once again. I have edited to remove the defamatory connections (hope that was appropriate), but am concerned that this will move in the same direction as before TrutherTruther was blocked from editing. Any advice? Hillhealth ( talk) 07:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC) I just noticed that 'ScienceAndTruth' is actually also responsible for much of the defamatory material associated with the wikileaks link regarding Schlessinger (and other pretty outrageous postings on other sites Hillhealth ( talk) 08:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
OK - thanks. I shall not try to fix again. Hillhealth ( talk) 23:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Hope you'll indulge a casual drive-by question. (Saw you comment on a matter at ANI, and followed the link here.)
If I begin with random praise about librarians, it may surely sound like sucking up, but I have little notches in my brain linking the concepts of librarian and "important acts for freedom." (e.g., Not that I'm a huge fan of Michael Moore's, but I always remember the librarians who made sure "Stupid White Men" was published at that time.)
Anyway, my question is do you think there is a (natural?) correlation between the values/temperament of librarians and Equor administrators?
(Feel free to ignore, tis the holiday season and surely you've much else to do, and perhaps you may already answered this somewhere, if so, a link would a blessing.) In any case, happy holidays and many blessings in the coming year. -- Proofreader77 ( talk) 19:03, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
However, I wouldn't identify Wikipedia:Eguor admins with intellectual freedom specifically. Admins and other Wikipedians of all dispositions generally are almost all of us here because of our commitment to intellectual freedom in multiple ways--it's even one of our basic principles, as NOT CENSORED. The concept of Equor ( basically, anti-rogue ) is a little different--to use admin powers in a way that as careful and discreet, rather than heavy-handed and authoritarian. I do not actually agree with everything on that page--in one sense, adminship should indeed be regarded as a big deal, for the potential power of admins to harm Wikipedia is very great. But the point I have been trying to remind people of in recent weeks is that we do not exercise admin powers to express our view of what Wikipedia should be, but to enforce the consensus view of what Wikipedia should be. We don;t have to agree with it, but we cannot use the tools in opposition to it or regardless of it. I asked for the tools for two reasons originally: to check whether deleted articles could be rescued --with the community given another chance to decide if they were in fact rescuable, and to carry out the implied will of the community in removing ones that they obviously they would never support. Anything else I've done I've done incidentally--i will not pass over vandalism or disruption if I see it, but that's not what I go looking for (many others do, and they certainly should--we don't have to all emphasize the same things.) Unfortunately, all too many admins who work in all areas seem to regard themselves as infallible. They forget that we're not chosen for our great skill in policy--just the general knowledge of policy every active Wikipedian should have, but are needed primarily for having sound judgment and care in expressing it. DGG ( talk ) 03:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I guess my reaction in a nutshell is that most admins (present company excepted, by all means, if you wish exception) often seem to be the wrong animal to calm the waters — many believing there is only one species, and it's their kind. :-)
But I can only say that nut's worth after having written the below, which you can skim if you like, or just gaze across the waters. Cheers.
--
Proofreader77 (
talk) 06:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
(Whether the below seems a gift or a bane, perhaps it is useful to leave a bit of my own thinking behind, so you know who it was that was thankful for our exchange.)
Perhaps I should add something about that, since if you look, there is a recently added "Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar" on my user page ... which was awarded to me by an admininistrator who had an aforementioned "aggrieved editor" blowing some gasket on her talk page ... and I stepped in softly ... in the holiday spirit ... and offered a genuine deluxe apology to whomever wanted one ... with the option that if necessary I would eat dirt and wash my mouth out with soap." ... An improvisation of the moment, based on my rhetorical perspective and etc.
I got not only the barnstar, but pats on the back by others who had witnessed this little grace note, which calmed that puddle.
But I'm not an admin, and if I was, it would not be the same ... which is to say, that it's not necessarily the fact that admins should be the water calmers ... since they are the deux ex machina of Wikipedia power ... or, perhaps, should be ... rather than someone in the midst of the fray, who just happens to be able to block you, etc
Clearly, there are more complex matters of water calming — and some wave patterns which cannot be calmed at all ... and must be allowed to crash themselves on the rocks until they tire. (But, I must admit, some do not get tired. Hard problem.)
On a more abstract note, one thing that I think gets lost in a lot of the "pointless" contention (and civility breaches, and threats of blocks, and baiting, and forced submission lol have I covered it all?) ... is that different people are different animals — and I just saw an admin block someone because they "didn't get the point" of what an editor was doing. Not quite fair description since there were many such points — but we must note that some admins thought the actions were humorous enough to improve the Wikipedia community environment with much needed lightness ... and other admins thought was disruptive behavior which only annoyed and certainly not something to be approved of.
We're talking about "different animals" of course. Whether some personality inventory would be helpful or harmful in pondering the various species, I don't know. But I do believe we need to think about those distinctions, somehow.
Well, that's much more than I meant to say. In brief: (1) Admins may not be the best water calmers, because they have power to not need to calm waters, just threaten and act. (2) What Admins should be somehow screened for or helped to see the light about ... is that the person they are feeling like threatening, may simply be an animal the admin does not "grasp" the purpose of.
Oh well, it appears I've rewarded a gift, with a flood. Ah, see the waves. lol Bless you both, and good fortune.
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Proofreader77 (
talk) 06:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey DGG, another AfD similar to the Adam Lyons is going on, would appreciate your thoughts on it, as similar meatpuppetry seems to be going on.
Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jeremy_Soul DRosin ( talk) 19:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
As you know, DGG, you have my sincere thanks for your words on my behalf at the recent block review. Take care, and happy editing to you! Dekkappai ( talk) 21:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Just to let you know that both articles have now been re-listed, with the request to clarify each editor's present position. -- Jubilee♫ clipman 00:02, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't consider myself Proof's "opponent". But he just seems to amplify drama on matters I and others consider closed, including keeping that page which somewhat resembles an arbitration statement against me and others. He keeps hinting at arbitration too ("As I think I mentioned, there will most likely be an Arbcom about several things (...)"). Parts of the statement I've initially made in that (now archived) ANI thread were indeed incorrect, but I've struck those after Proof answered some direct questions; his convoluted way of communication initially mislead me about his intentions. That isn't too apparent from his "sandboxed" story, which he now promised to "improve" with the MfD nomination (in more doublespeak). I think WP:UP#NOT.10 was intended exactly to prevent this sort of spiraling situation, people keeping storytales about other's wrongdoings that don't allow a fair chance to reply due to userspace privileges. I didn't want to write all this in that MfD because I thought most of it was self-evident, and that the page should be judged on its own merits, not serve to further interpersonal conflicts. Pcap ping 07:55, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Hiya. You participated in a previous deletion discussion regarding this, so may like to know that it has cropped up again. Thanks. Quantpole ( talk) 16:38, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
The December 2009 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Alan16 ( talk) 15:54, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
That's a pretty ridiculous decline. "Possibly a notable figure in his area?" Do you have any reason to believe that he is, and if so, why didn't you edit it into the article?
As it stands, there are only 21 G-hits for d'Agier, each and every one of them Wiki mirrors of this article, and zero hits for "Henri d'Agier," which you'd think would be more likely. There are no articles under either name on the French Wikipedia. Did you take even a moment to investigate this, or are you just assuming any article which claims to be about a "historical" figure is prima facie notable? RGTraynor 19:35, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at [ AFD] for Comparison between Roman and Han Empires, since you have participated in the last AFD. Teeninvestor ( talk) 21:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
He apeared in several mags and newpapers like the L.A. Times for his work and should be on this site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeteSmith81 ( talk • contribs) 07:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
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DGG, Cirt and I are agreed that the NPOV tag at Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry could be removed now. However, as you were the one who placed it, I did not want to remove it without your consent. Could you have a look whether the changes Cirt and I have made have addressed your original concerns? -- JN 466 21:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
I am slightly disturbed about a recent edit to this article, which is technically acceptable but seems unconstructive. You may want to comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Nigeria#Update needed. Not important... Aymatth2 ( talk) 02:50, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your input. I added some clarification of my concerns. I have been churning out a lot of these thumbnail bios lately, and would prefer not to see them all decorated in the same way. But it is not important - I will leave it and move on. Aymatth2 ( talk) 16:25, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Apologies, I wasn't aware articles couldn't ever be re-prodded, should have just gone to AfD. I'll give the merge request chance to come to fruition before I evoke an AfD. Rehevkor ✉ 02:32, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Point well taken on Visalia Country Club. I was burned checking over things to add a related SPI case... and I'll admit I cut it short. Honestly I expected the article creator to have it off quickly; I just wish they left edit summaries. I'm entirely standing by a few of my other tags though... such as a shopping mall on AfD (though I remember a shopping mall that did get through an earlier per historical reference), and some fluff/padding I cut out a few places. The category for the city looks way better than it used to under sock control and I've been leaving any neighborhoods, etc. that even have any kind secondary/high schools in them, even though cities this size typically don't get such neighborhood detail. Thanks for saving me the head pounding in a week and getting it over with in 1 day, and at least I know it's a familiar voice behind the advice. Cheers~ ♪ daTheisen (talk) 01:27, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Happy Holidays to you and yours DGG. Turqoise127 ( talk) 17:52, 21 December 2009 (UTC) ---
Noticed you participated in the discussion ... Yes, clarification of policy. (See: WP:Civility/Poll :-)
FYI: You may have noticed the topic was archive-locked. Regarding how that happened, you may skim my Comment in response to the premature archive-lock near top of older version of page (now reverted as "disruptive editing," of course — which I expected, given the givens).
(If that's too long, try Abraham Lincoln's dog tail joke above it. :-)
No intervention requested. "All this" has to be dealt with at Arbcom. (Or so it would seem. :-)
-- Proofreader77 ( talk) 20:26, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Ah, one thing perhaps you might consider, since you have some feeling on whether that topic at AN was worthwhile, or merely disruptive — perhaps take a quick look at this topic on Abecedaare's page re COI (since my comment referred to Abecedare's actions, it might be better if someone else reverted the comment). I have also informed Gwen Gale, but there is also the problem of COI there with regard to an Arbcom.
But surely feel free to ignore all this. I will not make a habit bringing such information to your page — it is only because of your commenting within the now-archived topic ... which yielded this little essay by admin X!:
Wikipedia:Thou shalt not block for being mocked.
One last assurance about anything to come: It will be convivial.
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Proofreader77 (
talk) 21:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
As for Gwen Gale, who has been my informal adviser at Wikipedia since my beginning, who turned bad fairy for various (social) reasons which probably don't need to be explored ... she just made a misjudgment. It happens. Big deal. But just noting that the only previous communication on MY talk page (rather than hers) has been (1) Cookies, (2) Happy birthday (with a small disproving twist regarding "cake"), and (3) Editing restrictions. That's all I've ever heard from her on my talk page up to the imposition of editing restrictions.
As for my initial ANI prosecutor User:Llywrch (with whom there is an old peripheral "conflict" - one comment on my talk — which I will be happy to clarify for all) ... he has a new baby, and while it might be good thing for him to take time off from Wikipedia with a nice siteban for his rhetorical crimes against me (those may have to be illustrated, because they are conduct unbecoming an administrator) ... but I will seek nothing other than retraction of his mis-characterizations of Proofreader77.
Yada yada yada, there's some few more characters but ...
As I've assured User:Gwen Gale: All will be convivial.
BIG PICTURE: Some admins demand others be just like them. Some don't like humor. Way too much abuse of WP:Civility as justification for bad behavior by admins.
Freedom of difference in communication style on talk pages.
No, can't resolve all that... But what can be resolved is whether what Proofreader77 does is good for the community — or so bad he should be sitebanned (as was ridiculously asserted by some of the above) can be determined by Arbcom.
If Proofreader77 is found "not guilty" of alleged "crimes," that would be (I assert) good for the conversation environment of wikipeida — and be a step towards some improvement in problematic areas (like ANI, which is often a bazaar of cubbyholes where unpleasant things happen, rather than a place where "the community" decides anything.)
Clearly, I will be more concise at Arbcom. :-) Cheers. (excuse typos ... much work to do) Proofreader77 ( talk) 00:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Since you participated in the DRV for Secret Maryo Chronicles, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Secret Maryo Chronicles (3 nomination). Tim Song ( talk) 07:39, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I have friends who produce one almost every day. And most are not notable even to them after a little while. You probably mean "all released versions of windows are notable". Regards. Pcap ping 09:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraind the this ancient gripe is still valid today. I've recently got involved with software AfDs again, something I used to do a year a back, but got tired of it. Your comments there that these guys !vote "delete unsourced" or similar in spite of obvious evidence, or keep arguing that sources are unreliable over and over ignoring evidence to the contrary ring true to me. Given the length of time this has been going on, I think arbitration is the only way out of this. Alternatively a topic ban (software AfDs) on WP:AN may be attempted, but I think it will degenerate in WP:TLDR, just like that ANI thread. Pcap ping 11:53, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
David, as a significant contributor to the Shepherd AfD process, you might also be interested in the conversation here. Simon Kidd ( talk) 15:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
You deprodded this article a couple of months ago, and it is now at AfD.
I just thought you'd want to know. -- Blanchardb - Me• MyEars• MyMouth- timed 17:23, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like to get an independent review of this my edit [5]. I'm presented my arguments in my BLP/N report here [6]. Outside opinion would be most appreciated. Thank you. M0RD00R ( talk) 22:39, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Since the controversy section in Alina Cala article has been restored [7] now, I would like to ask some follow up questions - when you said that Alina Cala's interview is usable did you mean that the interview itself is a notable event and merits its own section in biographical article, or did you mean that article is usable to establish Alina Cala's opinion on certain historical events, or did you mean something entire different? Thank you. M0RD00R ( talk) 18:59, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi DGG, Just FYI: Take a look at this SPI case. Absent the bogeyman of "cheerleader vandals" why did User:Jess Selders 2012 get indef blocked? A 2 minute Google search show that there is a Jessica Selders at Charlotte High. Let's not get into this bans are just blocks etc bullshit. PCHS-NJROTC is quickly undoing all of their edits relating to this "ban", so I think they see the problem. — Preceding text originally posted on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:PCHS-NJROTC_has_unilaterally_declared_another_user_to_be_.22banned.22 by Delicious carbuncle ( talk⋅ contribs) 05:02, 20 December 2009 (UTC) (UTC) This ofcourse relates solely to the Jess_Selders_2012 account, and attempting to connect other accounts to that name may constitute outing, that is really not for me to say. Unomi ( talk) 07:10, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
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Hi DGG,
First and foremost - happy holiday. Second please advise me on what I may do to make my stub article worthy of publishing within Wikipedia. I have read several of the resources and even followed the content of similar stubs such as the 'Clark Material Handling' stub and the currently posted 'Yale' one. My interest in posting the information stems out of wanting to explain the history of A-Prime and how it became to be what it is today from a different name. Additionally, I am interested in listing a few of the products that fall under the 'Material Handling' company and further explaining them. My original post is below, please offer your guidance:
A-Prime Handling, Inc Located in the Industrial Park of Avon, MA A-Prime Handling, Inc. (more commonly known as "A-Prime") is a national facility service, sales and installation company for material handling products. It's core business consists of selling, coordinating, delivering, servicing and installing the material handling products that it provides as well as those already owned by its clients. Essentially moving a retailer's products from their mode of delivery to their final destination.
History
Founded in 1977, with just two employees, A-Prime Handling, Inc. started as a pallet rack and mezzanine installation company known as Master Installers. It's founder and current company president, Michael Zelman started the company after working in the material handling industry for several years. However, the actual A-Prime Handling, Inc. enterprise did not exist until January 1990 as a result of Michael Zelman's desire to start selling material handling products in addition to simply installing them. Then, because of A-Prime Handling, Inc.'s success and increased recognition within the material handling industry, Michael Zelman decided to consolidate the businesses leaving Master Installers to fade away in 2004 and operate under the A-Prime Handling, Inc. name.
Today, A-Prime Handling, Inc. is a national material handling facility service and product provider, hired by leading retailers within the US, Canada and Puerto Rico.
Material Handling Products
A-Prime Handling, Inc.
Kindest regards ZFrost ( talk) 18:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Sadly, the author seems to have left the project for the last few days. Hoping he'll return, I meanwhile found enough to create an article on the book's author in order to remove a redlink at the above. The man is apparently one of, if not THE, expert on Irish film and Irish film history. I also believe that at least three other of his tomes also may merit articles. Please look in at Kevin Rockett and advise. Best wishes, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 19:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I am asking that the Rodney Glassman Wikipedia page be taken off protection. There is a newly written article that I believe meets the standards for Wikipedia and includes more sources then the original article in question. If you would like to review it that can also be arranged. I would like to post the article with all the requirements so that this does not occur again.
Mbellovin ( talk) 00:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC) Mbellovin 12/24/09
After Jan 4, please. DGG ( talk ) 00:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Having a minor issue in the Jediism article. An editor is considering simply naming a book and making a WL to it as properly sourcing it. Along with that, he attacked the editor that made the previous edit. [8] I reverted and explained that it wasn't a proper citation.. He then went in and reverted it. [9] I did a second revert, explaining that he needed to show which version of the book, what page etc. He reverted again. [10] Then he decided to vandalize my user page [11]. Perhaps a word from you would be of assistance. Niteshift36 ( talk) 03:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
I've taken Talat Waseem over to AfD. You may want to join the discussion. Cheers, Steamroller Assault ( talk) 20:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Coffee // have a cup // ark // 20:26, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Could look at Centericq and tell me if the ISSNs of those two Czech sites are real? Neither is recognized by worldcat. Of course, an ISSN by itself doesn't make a source reliable or not, but the sites clearly are popular by traffic from the Czech republic (by Alex ranking). Pcap ping 04:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Greetings! Over the last few months user Eik Corell has been gutting game pages of relevant content, and has just recently done it again. He has been warned more than once, but continues to do so. See the following edit, in which he removes a lot of information thats vital to the game [13]. Furthermore he seemingly targets games based in the Tribes franchise. He has guttted both the Starsiege Tribes and Tribes 2 pages, now the Fallen Empire: Legions page. Is there anything that can be done? EvanVolm —Preceding undated comment added 06:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC).
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Is this scholar notable? Bearian ( talk) 00:08, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi DGG, I wish you'd reconsider your deprodding and voting keep for these buildings in Dubai. The most important point is that they don't exist. They are proposals, which given the total collapse of the Dubai building market means they will never be built. Glittering Pillars ( talk) 09:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Dear David, You have always been such a wise sage on Wiki matters. Perhaps you can enlighten me on this topic. I have been a loyal supporter of Wiki, with previous donations. But the jump from $6M in 2008 to $7.5M this year puzzled me. In the current recessive financial climate, a 25% increase reminds people of those insensitive fat cats on Wall St. I went to the donation page and clicked "discussion" to voice my opinion, but there seems to be no place to add text. They only publish the glowing praises and eagerness to donate. What do you think? EJ -- EJohn59 ( talk) 18:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you David. I donated $20 and voiced my concern, which is basically one of timely sensitivity. EJ-- EJohn59 ( talk) 01:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, it's not normally like me to close such debates, but I felt I had a responsibility there. I can only hope that I made the right decision ... and for the right reasons. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 23:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi David. I haven't had many occasions to interact with you of late, but I wanted to express my appreciation for your good work on the encyclopedia. Take care and enjoy your holidays. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 21:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey David, I have updated the article with your comments in mind and have added a reference of Adam Lyons appearing on CBS. Any thoughts on this, and improving the article would be good. It might just be the effort I have put into the article talking, but I am convinced the notability is good enough! Anyway, I hope the update has improved the article somewhat DRosin ( talk) 23:08, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I thought you might be interested to peruse User:Sherurcij/books; it's just an informal listing of books that "we", being the few who seem to constantly find ourselves in terrorist biographies, may find appealing. I'd like to list the "bad" books as well as the "good" ones so that we know where we can invest money in knowledge, not waste it in vain. If you have a couple books yourself to add to the list (or want to add an alternate review of a book where you violently disagree with my characterization), please feel free - I may import it over to Wikiproject:Terrorism in the future if it becomes a viable resource. Please do limit it only to books you have read cover-to-cover, not ones you have only cherrypicked through for information. Thanks! Sherurcij ( speaker for the dead) 21:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm glad you like it. Feel free to use it as much as you like, just so long as you change the link from my talk page to yours (heh, heh) . Kind regards, Spitfire Tally-ho! 19:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I simply repeated the reason it was deleted for previously. So what does apply? Eeekster ( talk) 04:52, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
(Dec 7)
David, I was thinking that the WP:VPM discussion I linked above may interest you with regards to Wikipedia and research, being a librarian and all that. MuZemike 21:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
This is a bit of boilerplate with which I'm contacting the folks most involved in the original discussion. I have no vested interest in the outcome. Hi, it's been nearly three years, but maybe you remember the fuss over the dab page Les Balsiger and the article Les Balsiger (activist). In a nutshell, to the best of my recollection, a college administrator with the same name as an anti-Catholic activist contacted Wikipedia after attempting to disambiguate himself from the activist. The administrator is a fine person, but as-of-yet non-notable.
In what was more-or-less an official Wikimedia Foundation action by User:BradPatrick, who was the foundation's legal counsel at the time, it was determined that a dab page should be created despite the fact that it didn't fit in with MOS:DABRL. Now a user insists that the Les Balsiger (activist) page be redirected to the Les Balsiger dab page. That is the current state of pages. I didn't agree with the initial decision that we needed a dab page, but I wish to uphold the decision made at the Afd. Should we reopen the Afd, or has the issue run its course?
Here are some links to the relevant history (not necessarily in chronological order): Talk:Les Balsiger (activist), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger (disambiguation), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive173#Previously deleted Les Balsiger article reincarnated as a defamatory attack article -- on the wrong target?, and this short note regarding closing the Afd on the dab page.
Brad Patrick indicates that he's no longer to be contacted about Wikipedia legal matters, so I will be e-mailing this message to Mike Godwin via info-en at wikimedia dot org.
If the pages are kept in their current state, a history page merge may be in order and/or the talk pages need to be put in the correct places.
Let's discuss this at Talk:Les Balsiger (disambiguation) to keep it all in once place.
P.S. DGG, I know you weren't that involved in this, but I saw your name in one of the Afds and I always value your opinion. (Even if I don't always agree!) Cheers, Katr67 ( talk) 18:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I am new at dealing with the admin buttons, and wonder why you did not remove the CSD template when adding the GNU documentation to that article. The source does not itself appear to be in violation of copyright, which I thought would make the copy here legitimate once attribution is satisfied (well, and notability, but that is not a speedy deletion issue). Regards, - 2/0 ( cont.) 00:09, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I sent this article to WP:Copyright violations. The source is released under GFDL 1.2 only which per WP:Licensing update#Content restrictions is considered a copyright violation. -- Bluemask ( talk) 04:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell us your opinion of this author (also known as Ove Michaelsen), please? Bearian ( talk) 21:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I've had a go at cleaning up the above article. If you would like to have another look to see whether this affects your comments at the AfD that would be great. Cheers. Quantpole ( talk) 10:12, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Turqoise127 ( talk) 15:14, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
can you please vote again on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Uwe_Kils_(3rd_nomination). Best wishes Uwe Kils 15:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Turqoise127 ( talk) 15:14, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
== Provocation? ==
Hi DGG
Your follow-up to this comment suggested that it was a "provocation". Do you care to clarify? My comment was a response to an implicit intention to move the article in question to mainspace, which will almost surely result in an AfD nomination (whether or not mine) given the topic's history.
Regards, Bongo matic 02:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I think you have the wrong user. I didn't understand your comment. Jmckeon ie ( talk) 07:23, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
A while back ago, you were involved in a discussion about how to refer to the United States Geographical locations on wikipedia. A similar discussion is taking place here. Any comments on this topic would be helpful.-- Jojhutton ( talk) 00:48, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello, DGG! This is just a note thanking you for participating in my
recent Request for Adminship, which passed with a total of 93 support !votes, 1 oppose and 3 editors remaining neutral. While frankly overwhelmed by the level of support, I humbly thank the community for the trust it has placed in me, and vow to use the tools judiciously and without malice. |
Thanks for rescuing the British International School of Stavanger from speedy deletion! I like librarians! Janbrogger ( talk) 09:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed you responded to both AfDs (that one and the Johanna one) on the Kaspar AfD. You might want to put a reference on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johanna van Beethoven because I worry that someone closing the two separately could overlook your comment that's directed towards it. Shadowjams ( talk) 19:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
DGG, you're a sharp reader with great reserves of patience and whose opinions (if any) on Brazilian matters are completely unknown to me; can I invite you as either editor or administrator (preferably not both) to look at Talk:White Brazilian (also currently near the top of WP:AN/I)?
(I'm sending a related message to Orlady.) -- Hoary ( talk) 01:54, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
You were involved in a discussion regarding the use of copyrighted architectural designs on Wikipedia pages and I'm trying to find community consensus on a gray area. If you can, please let me know at what point you feel these images should be replaced here. Thank you so much! DR04 ( talk) 19:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I saw your thoughtful comment on ANI. To me, BLP is a balance. I'm a little surprised that the article, with potential BLP problems, became a FA with not very much discussion about BLP. (disclaimer: on the other hand, I haven't submitted an article to become FA). Maybe the review process is centered too much on technical issues and not much overall consideration. Some reviews are so focused on getting the references in the right order and grammatical errors that the larger issues may not be covered.
It's not my goal to censor articles nor to promote the latest in hot gossip and negative information. I'm just a little interested in getting BLP issues addressed in any article. Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 16:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I submitted my block to discussion, and adjusted it in line with consensus on ANI. If you unilaterally unblock now, you are ignoring that consensus and liable to cause more drama. Make your case on ANI, and I, for one, will respect consensus.-- Scott Mac (Doc) 17:56, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Since I know you have in the past expressed a positive interest in the Saga of the Skolian Empire, I though I'd inform you about this discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jagernaut. Debresser ( talk) 15:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated the above page for deletion here, back in 2007 you participated in another AfD on the same page here the result of which was to delete. Just thought I should let you know. Codf1977 ( talk) 17:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Nikolai Bezroukov Hi Dgg, did you see this I added the search template and there was some primary stuff but little or no third party reliable sources. Off2riorob ( talk) 23:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
TrutherTruther seems to be back to editing the Schlessinger page once again - now as 'ScienceAndTruth'. The edits are the same - trying to push the horribly defamatory 'wikileaks' link once again. I have edited to remove the defamatory connections (hope that was appropriate), but am concerned that this will move in the same direction as before TrutherTruther was blocked from editing. Any advice? Hillhealth ( talk) 07:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC) I just noticed that 'ScienceAndTruth' is actually also responsible for much of the defamatory material associated with the wikileaks link regarding Schlessinger (and other pretty outrageous postings on other sites Hillhealth ( talk) 08:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
OK - thanks. I shall not try to fix again. Hillhealth ( talk) 23:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Hope you'll indulge a casual drive-by question. (Saw you comment on a matter at ANI, and followed the link here.)
If I begin with random praise about librarians, it may surely sound like sucking up, but I have little notches in my brain linking the concepts of librarian and "important acts for freedom." (e.g., Not that I'm a huge fan of Michael Moore's, but I always remember the librarians who made sure "Stupid White Men" was published at that time.)
Anyway, my question is do you think there is a (natural?) correlation between the values/temperament of librarians and Equor administrators?
(Feel free to ignore, tis the holiday season and surely you've much else to do, and perhaps you may already answered this somewhere, if so, a link would a blessing.) In any case, happy holidays and many blessings in the coming year. -- Proofreader77 ( talk) 19:03, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
However, I wouldn't identify Wikipedia:Eguor admins with intellectual freedom specifically. Admins and other Wikipedians of all dispositions generally are almost all of us here because of our commitment to intellectual freedom in multiple ways--it's even one of our basic principles, as NOT CENSORED. The concept of Equor ( basically, anti-rogue ) is a little different--to use admin powers in a way that as careful and discreet, rather than heavy-handed and authoritarian. I do not actually agree with everything on that page--in one sense, adminship should indeed be regarded as a big deal, for the potential power of admins to harm Wikipedia is very great. But the point I have been trying to remind people of in recent weeks is that we do not exercise admin powers to express our view of what Wikipedia should be, but to enforce the consensus view of what Wikipedia should be. We don;t have to agree with it, but we cannot use the tools in opposition to it or regardless of it. I asked for the tools for two reasons originally: to check whether deleted articles could be rescued --with the community given another chance to decide if they were in fact rescuable, and to carry out the implied will of the community in removing ones that they obviously they would never support. Anything else I've done I've done incidentally--i will not pass over vandalism or disruption if I see it, but that's not what I go looking for (many others do, and they certainly should--we don't have to all emphasize the same things.) Unfortunately, all too many admins who work in all areas seem to regard themselves as infallible. They forget that we're not chosen for our great skill in policy--just the general knowledge of policy every active Wikipedian should have, but are needed primarily for having sound judgment and care in expressing it. DGG ( talk ) 03:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I guess my reaction in a nutshell is that most admins (present company excepted, by all means, if you wish exception) often seem to be the wrong animal to calm the waters — many believing there is only one species, and it's their kind. :-)
But I can only say that nut's worth after having written the below, which you can skim if you like, or just gaze across the waters. Cheers.
--
Proofreader77 (
talk) 06:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
(Whether the below seems a gift or a bane, perhaps it is useful to leave a bit of my own thinking behind, so you know who it was that was thankful for our exchange.)
Perhaps I should add something about that, since if you look, there is a recently added "Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar" on my user page ... which was awarded to me by an admininistrator who had an aforementioned "aggrieved editor" blowing some gasket on her talk page ... and I stepped in softly ... in the holiday spirit ... and offered a genuine deluxe apology to whomever wanted one ... with the option that if necessary I would eat dirt and wash my mouth out with soap." ... An improvisation of the moment, based on my rhetorical perspective and etc.
I got not only the barnstar, but pats on the back by others who had witnessed this little grace note, which calmed that puddle.
But I'm not an admin, and if I was, it would not be the same ... which is to say, that it's not necessarily the fact that admins should be the water calmers ... since they are the deux ex machina of Wikipedia power ... or, perhaps, should be ... rather than someone in the midst of the fray, who just happens to be able to block you, etc
Clearly, there are more complex matters of water calming — and some wave patterns which cannot be calmed at all ... and must be allowed to crash themselves on the rocks until they tire. (But, I must admit, some do not get tired. Hard problem.)
On a more abstract note, one thing that I think gets lost in a lot of the "pointless" contention (and civility breaches, and threats of blocks, and baiting, and forced submission lol have I covered it all?) ... is that different people are different animals — and I just saw an admin block someone because they "didn't get the point" of what an editor was doing. Not quite fair description since there were many such points — but we must note that some admins thought the actions were humorous enough to improve the Wikipedia community environment with much needed lightness ... and other admins thought was disruptive behavior which only annoyed and certainly not something to be approved of.
We're talking about "different animals" of course. Whether some personality inventory would be helpful or harmful in pondering the various species, I don't know. But I do believe we need to think about those distinctions, somehow.
Well, that's much more than I meant to say. In brief: (1) Admins may not be the best water calmers, because they have power to not need to calm waters, just threaten and act. (2) What Admins should be somehow screened for or helped to see the light about ... is that the person they are feeling like threatening, may simply be an animal the admin does not "grasp" the purpose of.
Oh well, it appears I've rewarded a gift, with a flood. Ah, see the waves. lol Bless you both, and good fortune.
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Proofreader77 (
talk) 06:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey DGG, another AfD similar to the Adam Lyons is going on, would appreciate your thoughts on it, as similar meatpuppetry seems to be going on.
Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jeremy_Soul DRosin ( talk) 19:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
As you know, DGG, you have my sincere thanks for your words on my behalf at the recent block review. Take care, and happy editing to you! Dekkappai ( talk) 21:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Just to let you know that both articles have now been re-listed, with the request to clarify each editor's present position. -- Jubilee♫ clipman 00:02, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't consider myself Proof's "opponent". But he just seems to amplify drama on matters I and others consider closed, including keeping that page which somewhat resembles an arbitration statement against me and others. He keeps hinting at arbitration too ("As I think I mentioned, there will most likely be an Arbcom about several things (...)"). Parts of the statement I've initially made in that (now archived) ANI thread were indeed incorrect, but I've struck those after Proof answered some direct questions; his convoluted way of communication initially mislead me about his intentions. That isn't too apparent from his "sandboxed" story, which he now promised to "improve" with the MfD nomination (in more doublespeak). I think WP:UP#NOT.10 was intended exactly to prevent this sort of spiraling situation, people keeping storytales about other's wrongdoings that don't allow a fair chance to reply due to userspace privileges. I didn't want to write all this in that MfD because I thought most of it was self-evident, and that the page should be judged on its own merits, not serve to further interpersonal conflicts. Pcap ping 07:55, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Hiya. You participated in a previous deletion discussion regarding this, so may like to know that it has cropped up again. Thanks. Quantpole ( talk) 16:38, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
The December 2009 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Alan16 ( talk) 15:54, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
That's a pretty ridiculous decline. "Possibly a notable figure in his area?" Do you have any reason to believe that he is, and if so, why didn't you edit it into the article?
As it stands, there are only 21 G-hits for d'Agier, each and every one of them Wiki mirrors of this article, and zero hits for "Henri d'Agier," which you'd think would be more likely. There are no articles under either name on the French Wikipedia. Did you take even a moment to investigate this, or are you just assuming any article which claims to be about a "historical" figure is prima facie notable? RGTraynor 19:35, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at [ AFD] for Comparison between Roman and Han Empires, since you have participated in the last AFD. Teeninvestor ( talk) 21:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
He apeared in several mags and newpapers like the L.A. Times for his work and should be on this site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeteSmith81 ( talk • contribs) 07:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
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DGG, Cirt and I are agreed that the NPOV tag at Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry could be removed now. However, as you were the one who placed it, I did not want to remove it without your consent. Could you have a look whether the changes Cirt and I have made have addressed your original concerns? -- JN 466 21:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
I am slightly disturbed about a recent edit to this article, which is technically acceptable but seems unconstructive. You may want to comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Nigeria#Update needed. Not important... Aymatth2 ( talk) 02:50, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your input. I added some clarification of my concerns. I have been churning out a lot of these thumbnail bios lately, and would prefer not to see them all decorated in the same way. But it is not important - I will leave it and move on. Aymatth2 ( talk) 16:25, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Apologies, I wasn't aware articles couldn't ever be re-prodded, should have just gone to AfD. I'll give the merge request chance to come to fruition before I evoke an AfD. Rehevkor ✉ 02:32, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Point well taken on Visalia Country Club. I was burned checking over things to add a related SPI case... and I'll admit I cut it short. Honestly I expected the article creator to have it off quickly; I just wish they left edit summaries. I'm entirely standing by a few of my other tags though... such as a shopping mall on AfD (though I remember a shopping mall that did get through an earlier per historical reference), and some fluff/padding I cut out a few places. The category for the city looks way better than it used to under sock control and I've been leaving any neighborhoods, etc. that even have any kind secondary/high schools in them, even though cities this size typically don't get such neighborhood detail. Thanks for saving me the head pounding in a week and getting it over with in 1 day, and at least I know it's a familiar voice behind the advice. Cheers~ ♪ daTheisen (talk) 01:27, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Happy Holidays to you and yours DGG. Turqoise127 ( talk) 17:52, 21 December 2009 (UTC) ---
Noticed you participated in the discussion ... Yes, clarification of policy. (See: WP:Civility/Poll :-)
FYI: You may have noticed the topic was archive-locked. Regarding how that happened, you may skim my Comment in response to the premature archive-lock near top of older version of page (now reverted as "disruptive editing," of course — which I expected, given the givens).
(If that's too long, try Abraham Lincoln's dog tail joke above it. :-)
No intervention requested. "All this" has to be dealt with at Arbcom. (Or so it would seem. :-)
-- Proofreader77 ( talk) 20:26, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Ah, one thing perhaps you might consider, since you have some feeling on whether that topic at AN was worthwhile, or merely disruptive — perhaps take a quick look at this topic on Abecedaare's page re COI (since my comment referred to Abecedare's actions, it might be better if someone else reverted the comment). I have also informed Gwen Gale, but there is also the problem of COI there with regard to an Arbcom.
But surely feel free to ignore all this. I will not make a habit bringing such information to your page — it is only because of your commenting within the now-archived topic ... which yielded this little essay by admin X!:
Wikipedia:Thou shalt not block for being mocked.
One last assurance about anything to come: It will be convivial.
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Proofreader77 (
talk) 21:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
As for Gwen Gale, who has been my informal adviser at Wikipedia since my beginning, who turned bad fairy for various (social) reasons which probably don't need to be explored ... she just made a misjudgment. It happens. Big deal. But just noting that the only previous communication on MY talk page (rather than hers) has been (1) Cookies, (2) Happy birthday (with a small disproving twist regarding "cake"), and (3) Editing restrictions. That's all I've ever heard from her on my talk page up to the imposition of editing restrictions.
As for my initial ANI prosecutor User:Llywrch (with whom there is an old peripheral "conflict" - one comment on my talk — which I will be happy to clarify for all) ... he has a new baby, and while it might be good thing for him to take time off from Wikipedia with a nice siteban for his rhetorical crimes against me (those may have to be illustrated, because they are conduct unbecoming an administrator) ... but I will seek nothing other than retraction of his mis-characterizations of Proofreader77.
Yada yada yada, there's some few more characters but ...
As I've assured User:Gwen Gale: All will be convivial.
BIG PICTURE: Some admins demand others be just like them. Some don't like humor. Way too much abuse of WP:Civility as justification for bad behavior by admins.
Freedom of difference in communication style on talk pages.
No, can't resolve all that... But what can be resolved is whether what Proofreader77 does is good for the community — or so bad he should be sitebanned (as was ridiculously asserted by some of the above) can be determined by Arbcom.
If Proofreader77 is found "not guilty" of alleged "crimes," that would be (I assert) good for the conversation environment of wikipeida — and be a step towards some improvement in problematic areas (like ANI, which is often a bazaar of cubbyholes where unpleasant things happen, rather than a place where "the community" decides anything.)
Clearly, I will be more concise at Arbcom. :-) Cheers. (excuse typos ... much work to do) Proofreader77 ( talk) 00:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Since you participated in the DRV for Secret Maryo Chronicles, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Secret Maryo Chronicles (3 nomination). Tim Song ( talk) 07:39, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I have friends who produce one almost every day. And most are not notable even to them after a little while. You probably mean "all released versions of windows are notable". Regards. Pcap ping 09:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraind the this ancient gripe is still valid today. I've recently got involved with software AfDs again, something I used to do a year a back, but got tired of it. Your comments there that these guys !vote "delete unsourced" or similar in spite of obvious evidence, or keep arguing that sources are unreliable over and over ignoring evidence to the contrary ring true to me. Given the length of time this has been going on, I think arbitration is the only way out of this. Alternatively a topic ban (software AfDs) on WP:AN may be attempted, but I think it will degenerate in WP:TLDR, just like that ANI thread. Pcap ping 11:53, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
David, as a significant contributor to the Shepherd AfD process, you might also be interested in the conversation here. Simon Kidd ( talk) 15:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
You deprodded this article a couple of months ago, and it is now at AfD.
I just thought you'd want to know. -- Blanchardb - Me• MyEars• MyMouth- timed 17:23, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like to get an independent review of this my edit [5]. I'm presented my arguments in my BLP/N report here [6]. Outside opinion would be most appreciated. Thank you. M0RD00R ( talk) 22:39, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Since the controversy section in Alina Cala article has been restored [7] now, I would like to ask some follow up questions - when you said that Alina Cala's interview is usable did you mean that the interview itself is a notable event and merits its own section in biographical article, or did you mean that article is usable to establish Alina Cala's opinion on certain historical events, or did you mean something entire different? Thank you. M0RD00R ( talk) 18:59, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi DGG, Just FYI: Take a look at this SPI case. Absent the bogeyman of "cheerleader vandals" why did User:Jess Selders 2012 get indef blocked? A 2 minute Google search show that there is a Jessica Selders at Charlotte High. Let's not get into this bans are just blocks etc bullshit. PCHS-NJROTC is quickly undoing all of their edits relating to this "ban", so I think they see the problem. — Preceding text originally posted on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:PCHS-NJROTC_has_unilaterally_declared_another_user_to_be_.22banned.22 by Delicious carbuncle ( talk⋅ contribs) 05:02, 20 December 2009 (UTC) (UTC) This ofcourse relates solely to the Jess_Selders_2012 account, and attempting to connect other accounts to that name may constitute outing, that is really not for me to say. Unomi ( talk) 07:10, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
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Hi DGG,
First and foremost - happy holiday. Second please advise me on what I may do to make my stub article worthy of publishing within Wikipedia. I have read several of the resources and even followed the content of similar stubs such as the 'Clark Material Handling' stub and the currently posted 'Yale' one. My interest in posting the information stems out of wanting to explain the history of A-Prime and how it became to be what it is today from a different name. Additionally, I am interested in listing a few of the products that fall under the 'Material Handling' company and further explaining them. My original post is below, please offer your guidance:
A-Prime Handling, Inc Located in the Industrial Park of Avon, MA A-Prime Handling, Inc. (more commonly known as "A-Prime") is a national facility service, sales and installation company for material handling products. It's core business consists of selling, coordinating, delivering, servicing and installing the material handling products that it provides as well as those already owned by its clients. Essentially moving a retailer's products from their mode of delivery to their final destination.
History
Founded in 1977, with just two employees, A-Prime Handling, Inc. started as a pallet rack and mezzanine installation company known as Master Installers. It's founder and current company president, Michael Zelman started the company after working in the material handling industry for several years. However, the actual A-Prime Handling, Inc. enterprise did not exist until January 1990 as a result of Michael Zelman's desire to start selling material handling products in addition to simply installing them. Then, because of A-Prime Handling, Inc.'s success and increased recognition within the material handling industry, Michael Zelman decided to consolidate the businesses leaving Master Installers to fade away in 2004 and operate under the A-Prime Handling, Inc. name.
Today, A-Prime Handling, Inc. is a national material handling facility service and product provider, hired by leading retailers within the US, Canada and Puerto Rico.
Material Handling Products
A-Prime Handling, Inc.
Kindest regards ZFrost ( talk) 18:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Sadly, the author seems to have left the project for the last few days. Hoping he'll return, I meanwhile found enough to create an article on the book's author in order to remove a redlink at the above. The man is apparently one of, if not THE, expert on Irish film and Irish film history. I also believe that at least three other of his tomes also may merit articles. Please look in at Kevin Rockett and advise. Best wishes, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 19:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I am asking that the Rodney Glassman Wikipedia page be taken off protection. There is a newly written article that I believe meets the standards for Wikipedia and includes more sources then the original article in question. If you would like to review it that can also be arranged. I would like to post the article with all the requirements so that this does not occur again.
Mbellovin ( talk) 00:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC) Mbellovin 12/24/09
After Jan 4, please. DGG ( talk ) 00:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Having a minor issue in the Jediism article. An editor is considering simply naming a book and making a WL to it as properly sourcing it. Along with that, he attacked the editor that made the previous edit. [8] I reverted and explained that it wasn't a proper citation.. He then went in and reverted it. [9] I did a second revert, explaining that he needed to show which version of the book, what page etc. He reverted again. [10] Then he decided to vandalize my user page [11]. Perhaps a word from you would be of assistance. Niteshift36 ( talk) 03:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
I've taken Talat Waseem over to AfD. You may want to join the discussion. Cheers, Steamroller Assault ( talk) 20:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Coffee // have a cup // ark // 20:26, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Could look at Centericq and tell me if the ISSNs of those two Czech sites are real? Neither is recognized by worldcat. Of course, an ISSN by itself doesn't make a source reliable or not, but the sites clearly are popular by traffic from the Czech republic (by Alex ranking). Pcap ping 04:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Greetings! Over the last few months user Eik Corell has been gutting game pages of relevant content, and has just recently done it again. He has been warned more than once, but continues to do so. See the following edit, in which he removes a lot of information thats vital to the game [13]. Furthermore he seemingly targets games based in the Tribes franchise. He has guttted both the Starsiege Tribes and Tribes 2 pages, now the Fallen Empire: Legions page. Is there anything that can be done? EvanVolm —Preceding undated comment added 06:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC).