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Hi DGC,
You warned User:Sinharib99 a while ago about creating unsourced BLPs and they have do not seem to have heeded your warning. I've already PROD'd at least a dozen so far and I'm sure there's more to go. Noformation Talk 10:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello, due to recent events a request for arbitration has been filed by ResidentAnthropologist ( talk · contribs) regarding long standing issues in the "Cult" topic area. The request can be found at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Cults The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•( contribs) 07:39, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
For sure! I've restored the deleted material for one user; I can put it up for you too, if you'd like. m.o.p 19:27, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
For some time now, I have been trying to clean up a low-importance article on the American journalist and author Michael Deibert but a user registered as Context23 keeps vandalizing it. Chiefly, Context23 continues to link to what I believe is highly contentious and possibly libelous material in the form of an article attacking Deibert by a Haitian politician named Patrick Elie (one of Deibert’s specialities appears to be Haiti) in a website I have never heard of before. I researched Elie and found that he evidently has a history of making false claims (on his website, Deibert links to articles chronicling how Elie spent time in prison for falsely claiming to be a diplomat and using a false address on a federal firearms transaction in connection to some sort of apparent assassination plot), so I am very worried that this link goes several steps beyond Wiki’s no-libel policy. There is already one article linked to critical of Deibert’s writing (which appear the point of the creation of the Context23 account) and that article falls within Wiki’s standards. However, I find the second article - the one that Context23 continuously links to - and another one linked to by someone named Diana Barahona that accuses Deibert of libel - do not. Thoughts? Thank you for taking time to help with this! Just trying to make Wiki a better community for all concerned! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MultiWorlds ( talk • contribs) 11:42, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
I think you made a very good point, and had I read your post (which cam after I went off-wiki) I would have asked for a short block of this editor. If it's possible to reopen the ANI for that purpose, perhaps that's the way to go rather than an RfC, and would have much the same effect. ScottyBerg ( talk) 13:33, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
At the discussion above no one was proposing that the article be "kept", and were disussing rather the better way to handle its removal from mainspace. There was some unaddressed and apparent misunderstandings of Deletion policy's instructions toward the intent of WP:INCUBATION, which relevent section states "articles which have potential, but which do not yet meet Wikipedia's quality standards, should be moved to the Wikipedia:Article Incubator, where they can continue to be collaboratively edited before either "graduating" to mainspace or ultimately being deleted". As the article was clearly not yet ready for mainspace, and as (per WP:INCUBATION guideline) a rationale has been put forward by at least one person that the article could meet inclusion/content criteria if given time, and a willingness has been established by at least one person to work on the article, would you please either move the article to Wikipedia:Article incubator/The Lone Ranger (film) for collaborative editing, or barring that, please userfy it to me at User:MichaelQSchmidt/The Lone Ranger (film) where I will invite those aforementioned interested editors to contribute to its growth and improvement until such time as it would be suitable for mainspace. Thank you, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:29, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
I read your views and must respectally disagree, based on the lack of any facts to back up your opinions therein. I can't see how User:Cirt has promoted anything (other than his personal views). He is not connected in any way with any of the topics that could constitute a promoter or spammer. Promotion, in my view, has to do with pushing a commercial interest (spamming), or promoting one's religion, school/college, political party (POV pushing), or similar group. Every editor is free to express an opinion by means of creating or editing articles of interest to him or her. I am more concerned that an organziation is pushing its views here at the project. Bearian ( talk) 21:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
What you have replaced in has no source material of any of the verifiable sources. It is a whitewash. Parents should be able to see all material that is relevant and in the public domain when making their choices. For the record there are multiple users of these machines who would like to contribute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by McGregor1969 ( talk • contribs) 21:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Seems better, quite balanced now, but need to correct a few typo's in Guardian results link. Can you clear that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.139.227 ( talk • contribs) 00:10, 3 June 2011
I am sorry to raise this but some individuals have removed and concealed the content of this site. It was of great value to parents like me. We new none of the stuff referred to was going on. Can you please revert the page asap to include all content or remove the edit block. Thank you. I do not believe the current censorship is reasonable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by McGregor1969 ( talk • contribs) 15:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I am not familiar with the history of the St Edmund Campion Catholic School article which you worked on, but I encountered an apparent fork at St Edmund Campion Catholic School, Erdington. The fork has balance and BLP issues. Should it be deleted? • Gene93k ( talk) 01:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
You have again censored the St Edmund Campion Catholic School, Erdington page. Aside from what is contended to be BLP by the individual claiming to have no knowledge of its history (just happens to open an account and makes no other contributions other than to this page) you have also removed all the factual encyclopaedic content such as examination results etc.
This is not a neutral edit, it is censorship / whitewashing. You have also handed out an inappropriate warning. I believe you have not taken an impartial view of the contentions. Please, reinstate the factual content to the article and protect from further alteration, or refer to an administrator who is not partial for re-writing. There is no justification for removing the factual content such as examination data etc.
In relation to the individual judged innocent of a crime, from his perspective it is as important to record he was found not guilty (as the article did) as it was to report throughout the media that he was accused. You have done him a disservice. — Preceding
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McGregor1969 22:31, 10 July 2011 (UTC)McGregor196922:31, 10 July 2011 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by McGregor1969 ( talk • contribs)
With respect to the BLP issue, it is not usually the province of Wikipedia to record the one or the other, though it is certainly true that if the first event was significant enough to include,then the second must be added also. For that matter if an article contained the statement X was found not guilty of something, this too is a violation of BLP policy for it implies he was accused of it. We include such matters only if 1/they involve notable people and the offense is relevant to the notability--as for politicians in office, whose notability is clear and where general character is relevant; or 2/ if the event itself becomes highly notable, as shown by truly significant coverage from multiple more than local unquestionably reliable sources, especially if some public issue is significant, or even if there is massive press clamour--as in the recent Casey Anthony trial, . Neither is relevant here, the person is not notable , and the event not the subject of significant coverage from major sources.The guiding principle here isThat Wikipedia is not a tabloid. The BLP concerns are real, and I am acting on the basis of a valid OTRS request.
As for the official reports on the schools performance, I agree they are relevant material, and I intend to add the reference. DGG ( talk ) 23:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I blocked it as a promotional username that was advertising Foreign Exchange F.C.--v/r - T P 03:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
TThere is no question that someone with an organizational user name editing on behalf of that organization must change their name, and we have a good template that explains why, but the contribution of such an editor are not necessarily spam, and even if they are initially ,they can generally be taught better, Unless they do use it for spamming they require just a change of name and there's no real need to block the old one, but I have no objection to doing such a username block it to avoid confusion over the use of the two new and the old names. But preventing them from doing what they are supposed to, which is to pick another user name and edit is wrong on many counts, and that is the effect of a hard block.It's wrong because its the harshest possible remedy used as the first step. It's wrong because you are assuming they will be spamming, and this is not necessarily the case; it is wrong because even if they were, they can generally persuaded to do better. It's wrong because it makes it very difficult for them to do proper editing if they decide to do that.I t's wrong because if they are determined on spamming, they will open new accounts until they manage to do so. In difficult situations, with repeated insertions, it may be necessary, but not as the first reaction. Almost all beginning editors can be assumed not to know the rules yet, and can be assumed to prefer to edit according the rules , once they know them. If not, then we can deal with them, but your method of procedure assumes bad faith from the very beginning. It is true the wording of the rule permits this, but only a few long term admins actually do it in this inflexible way, and they are just plain wrong. The rule is superseded by the basic principle of respect for newbies. We must have a continual incoming of new editors, and every attempt should be done to retain all who show any possible signs of useful collaboration, It is high time we changed the formal rules, which no longer reflect that actual practices of the community--only a few of the more hidebound older editors do it the way you have decided--you have picked the wrong examples to follow. What we do are the rules, regardless of what we say.
Hello David, I am new to the world of contributing to Wikipedia but I do have an educational/professional interest in article sourcing and, in particular plagiarism. If you would be interested in serving as a mentor please let me know! Thanks, Dazzpedian ( talk) 18:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I left a response and a query here. BTW, thanks for joining the conversation. Steve Quinn ( talk) 02:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Just read your last message (page archived), haven't logged on for a few weeks, concede that I may have been harsh in last message (but not over the top), your reaction was nice and calm. Otherwise, if you followed every newby like you did me, you'd never have time in your day for anything else, so I still think it was a bit stalky, even if not intended that way! Also retract my retraction in the earlier message, you are probably an alright admin, but haven't got time to check. Borgmcklorg ( talk) 10:57, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
A suggestion, you might try replying or sending messages to other people on their own talk pages, certainly looks like you use your own strategy (doing everything on your own one) to, well, you know what you are trying to do. Sure makes the page look busy! Borgmcklorg ( talk) 11:05, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I recently nominated CIT, Rajnandgoan for CSD R3 and you decided it was an appropriate redirect. I think you might not have noticed that the college it redirects to is located in Rajnand-gaon and not Rajnand-goan and I don't think that typo will be made often. A redirect from CIT, Rajnandgaon would be appropriate. So, if we agree that this typo is implausible, it may be reconsidered for deletion. Thanks.-- Siddhartha Ghai ( talk) 00:54, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I created a Category: English landowners and it was put up for deletion at here. Please comment at this CFD for whether or not you support these categories. It is not meant for anybody who ever owned a plot of land but the traditional wealthy landowners in British history at a time when "Landowner" was an official occupation and was their main source of power and esteem. Feudal lords are most certainly notable in my view. I am personally intrested in country estates and their holders and was shocked that we had no category to link major property owners. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:37, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Now somebody is trying to delete Category:Country houses in England at here. Clearly they are not aware of the facts that Houses in... is supposed to include every house in whatever its type and country house is distinct from a townhouse, almhouse which many counties have.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:16, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Does Wikipedia have any policy for citing common-law spouses? I was reading an article about Richard Mentor Johnson, the Vice-President under Martin Van Buren, and the article said that he had a common-law wife. However, the infobox said Johnson was unmarried with a note about a common-law wife. I disagree that a person with a common-law spouse is unmarried. How do you think this should be handled? Debbie W. 04:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwainwr123 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks. I will post it on the BLP noticeboard. Debbie W. 13:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwainwr123 ( talk • contribs)
Hello there. You said in this edit that you could and would check my CSD history. I was accused (not by you) of knowingly and repeatedly misusing A7. It was very easy for that user to make those claims without providing any evidence. I asked that user to either provide evidence or to provide a retraction; s/he did neither! It's very easy to cast aspersions, and to call people's good names into question. I have been waiting for you to review my CSD history, and for you to confirm that those claims are totally false and without reason. I look forward to hearing, or should I say seeing, your review. — Fly by Night ( talk) 22:45, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
I recently posted to Wikipedia talk:Further reading to agree with something you said. I'm not sure if you have that page watchlisted, so I'm dropping off a note to point out what I said here. I've also asked a few others to comment, as I'd like to see this discussed more. Carcharoth ( talk) 23:46, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi I've opened a discussion about categorizing actors and actresses separately at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers#Splitting actors by gender. I need some input. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:37, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello again, DGG …
Since you declined my WP:CSD nomination of Samir Joubran ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), and I lack the motivation at this moment to put lipstick on a pig, I have flagged it with the WP:FLAG-BIO protocol … also, someone should initiate a dialog with the article's creator if there are going to be any constructive improvements to it. :-)
Happy Editing! — 70.21.24.28 ( talk · contribs) 03:05, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
The point is that it's much friendlier than the WP:CSD warning, which has been their only contact, and which does not invite a dialog. — 70.21.24.28 ( talk) 03:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)… I realize that some of the expressed possible concerns may not be appropriate in this case.
Thanks for the kudos. I've been trying to make a habit of closing hard AFDs, and it's a bad idea to be too attached to the outcome - or afraid of peer review - when so doing. DRV is good to have since it can help correct these kinds of mistakes, so as long as it doesn't get heated and people don't take it personally, I think it's a great fail-safe to have in place. Regards, causa sui ( talk) 04:20, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, this user has created several good new articles and has been around a while. I stumbled upon this editor patrolling the backlog og unpatrolled new changes. Have a look at her contribution history, she might merit Autopatroller rights. Thanks. -- Crusio ( talk) 07:49, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello my name is Andres and in my ITGS (Infromation and technology in a global society)course, of the IB I need to interview someone who is related tot he issue of my choice. Since my issue is Wikipedia I was wondering if I could possibly interview you. I would greatly appreciate if so. Please provide me a way to contact you such as an e-mail address so I can send the interview. Thank You Poysndi ( talk) 15:16, 21 July 2011 (UTC) Thank you for your response. This interview is for my portfolio extension (internal assessment). I did a portfolio (ITGS) on Wikipedia, with the are of impact being education the issue being the fact that some schools block Wikipedia. Based on this portfolio I am planning on writing an extension on to what extent Wikipedia should be used in education, what its role is or something along those lines. The interview is 9 questions long and I believe pretty much anyone who's involved in the Wikipedia project could answer however a more experienced user might prove more a credible source for the IBO.
Poysndi ( talk) 17:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Excuse my ignorance but how do I e-mail you? Poysndi ( talk) 19:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
DGG, I would greatly appreciate your advising me how I might access the aforementioned deleted page or, in the alternative, your sending a complete copy (including images and references) to me via e-mail to mooney1084v@aol.com.
I would like to review same in order to intelligently discuss it with you and toward possible submission for reconsideration of the deletion.
Thanks!
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 06:01, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
DGG,
I would respectfully request that you view the following videos towards reconsidering your decision to delete this page:
http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2010/03/military_families_cope_with_tr.html
http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2009/10/veterans_groups_reach_out_to_h.html
Rather than an exercise in self-aggrandizement, this page serves as a mechanism for interested parties to contact me and to assist veterans in dire need.
Gary R. Englert
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 11:43, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
With all due respect and any representations to the contrary, I would respectfully submit that Wikipedia contains countless articles devoted to organizations, enterprises and individuals that serve little more purpose than to promote a profit making enterprise. This page is most certainly far from that. The point of asking you to review the videos provided was not to suggest that I was the subject but, that they are about the work that I do and the compelling causes that I champion; described as such because they clearly are just that... unless one views homeless and traumatic brain injured veterans as something less. Point in fact, these issues would have virtually no public awareness at all if activists like myself weren't beating the drum. The donation of cash, goods and services is the tangible result; more than $40,000 for the soldiers being treated at Kessler alone.
As to that portion of resume provided, it is only that which is necessary to gain the type of credibility that is necessary to gain the trust and acceptance required to interface with and assist combat veterans. It is a given that an Internet search for virtually anyone these days results in their Wikipedia entry (if they have one) being the first or second item that appears on any search engine. Deleting my page will simply serve to diminish my effectiveness in doing what considerable good I do.
Finally, I must point to the following opinion voiced in the deletion discussion:
"Keep - Seems to have enough material on him to make him notable." Hawkeye7
It would appear that this editor (Hawkeye7) has Wikipedia credentials and academic experience equal to your own, with the notable difference being that his professional discipline is military history. Given the limited discussion that occurred, how does one editor's opinion outweigh another's of equal stature?
Lastly, concerning Ron Ritzman's inquiry about wowikiprince, I would opine that this one-time contributer is another psuedonym employed by poster woconcernsme who repeatedly vandalized this page in the past. When one's civic activism results in arrests, indictments, convictions and sanctions against criminal, one does have the tendency to make lifelong enemies.
Gary R. Englert
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 16:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
David (if I may call you David?)<
Accepting for the moment that this page is "promotional," will you concede it is towards reasons worth embracing and not for personal or financial gain? If you do, I'd like to suggest a temporary compromise.
With the approach of the 10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks, many veterans suffering from PTSD will find thesmelves restimulated and in need of services. Accessibility to activists such as myself, who can provide advice and counsel, are a valuable resource and surely a benefit to all.
In orde that I be more accessible to the public in these coming weeks, I would ask you to temporarily re-post the page, wiht the provision that I will work with Hawkeye7 or whichever other editor you might suggest, to create an article meeting all acceptable criteria.
Would you eb inclined to take such a leap of faith? Surely, the good I may be able to do will more than offset any minor temporary tarnish on Wikipedia's protocols.
Thanks!
Gary
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 18:54, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
Dave,
I understand your point, however, there is not a single statement in this article that is untrue and only one that, though true, lacks an appropriate citation. It damn sure ain't bragging if you've done it and it is the very nature of veteran advocacy that one talks about their experiences! Again, I'm more than happy to have this re-written by a Wikipedia editor and then submitted for your review and approval. I'm only asking that you repost the article...let's say for a maximum of thirty days or until the new one is written...whichever comes first.
I've been doing this work for a lot of years and I know what demons will be awakened in the next six weeks. Toward that end, I want to be as accesible as I can to those who may need help. Whaetever else, Wikipedia has and will serve that purpose.
What do you say?
Gary
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 20:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
Dave,
My apologies; I thought we were having a courteous conversation. which is what I was encourage to do by adminstrator JohnCD. It is not my intent to annoy you. You are incorrect, however, insofar as I have never solicited donation through Wikipedia and am not doing so now. The fundraising I referred to (for soldiers being treated at Kessler) began and ended before this page was even published. I was simply providing an example of the good that can be done with some exposure and Wikipedia does provide that. I also understand your postion: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and you are trying to maintain that focus.
Gary
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 22:37, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
Dave,
Fair enough. I just thought reposting the page pending a re-write was a reasonable compromise. if this was not accomplished as promised, you'd still have the ability to pull the plug. Whatever else, this is not about self-interest. I'll hope to be contacted by administrator Hawkeye7.
Gary < 68.37.208.222 ( talk) 23:15, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
I was wondering how you felt about the close at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gargoyle_Router_Firmware. I spoke to the closing administrator [ [3]] and pointed out that all of those saying keep cited the sources were fine, while the delete people said otherwise. Thus there was no consensus. Dream Focus 09:49, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the "honors" on doing the merge. I hope I did it right. There was basically nothing to copy except Labin's title, which itself comes from a dubious source. Yoninah ( talk) 22:18, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Good afternoon! Some time ago you voted to keep the article on Kathy Chitty. It has been nominated for deletion again. If youy have the time could you have a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kathy Chitty (3rd nomination) and add any comment you might have. Thanks. Regards Rickedmo ( talk) 18:22, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Is there any independent way, such as an accreditation system, to check on an outfit calling itself a University in the US?
I ask because of this little walled garden which appeared today:
I have already taken the Fraternity to AfD, after declining a speedy, because I can find no refs independent of the University. The Fraternity has "endorsed" a book written by the University's President, Zviad Lazarashvili; the University has a scholarship in its name; and it has already awarded the University the "2012 Laissez-faire Medal of Freedom." It all seems rather incestuous.
The one that concerns me is the "International University" in Philadelphia, which claims to have been founded in 1812 (though its website was only set up on 19 May this year) and to have 1,200 students. The article references are extremely thin, many to books by Zviad Lazarashvili published by the University Press, whose only publications on Google Books or Amazon are by him; his other books have been published by CreateSpace and BookSurge, print-on-demand companies. He does not appear in Google Scholar.
Such references as I can find are mainly the University website or about the Press publishing Lazarashvili's books. Beyond all the obvious problems of puffery, I am wondering whether there is anything real there at all, or whether at best this is something that is just starting up.
The "Academy" in Tbilisi seems a bit more real. JohnCD ( talk) 19:51, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
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Could you take a look, please? -- Orange Mike | Talk 20:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
I agree with your close on the Atheism 3.0 AfD, but in my opinion it might have been better to wait the full 7 X 24 hours, considering it was ca contested discussion. Even a few hours early tend to drift, as other people go to 6 then 12 hours early, etc. This is one place where it matters. This definitely does not mean I disagree in the slightest with the close, and I certainly do not plan to take exception to it, but just a reminder. DGG ( talk ) 23:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thanks for this. Seems logical to me too. Yes, what has drawn me back somewhat is the recent AfDs on museum, cultural, etc. stuff. Hope all is going well for you. StarM 17:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I appreciated your warning on BLP concerning Robert Zoellick's bio. I see you're also an Ambassador. Can you use another mentee? I hope you can help me because a reliable stakeholder analysis predicted in 2004 a 90% risk that failure to resolve the issues now under consideration in Wikipedia will result in a currency war. I will be happy to share this stakeholder analysis with you and other background documentation. The former Chair of the World Bank's Audit Committee invited me yesterday to connect on LinkedIn. Currency1 ( talk) 10:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
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VQuakr ( talk) 00:57, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
I think we need a small clarification at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#BLP_errors_in_mentions_of_James_Cantor_.28me.29.. (not watching this page) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 16:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG, thank you again for your input at Talk:Hockey stick controversy where you said, "Criticism is almost always the better word [better than "attack"] for a Wikipedia article on anything controversial. The reader will decide on the nature of the criticism and the merits of the arguments." You might be surprised that despite your input and that of two others who said the same thing, it is being claimed that because you qualified this with "almost always", it means that while you agreed on the specific point ("criticism" not "attack"), you probably didn't agree on the general principle or interpretation of NPOV. Somehow they claim that you would still think that if a reliable source uses emotive, loaded language, it is generally better to the use exactly the same terms in the article to avoid misrepresenting the source or subtly altering the meaning or reducing the clarity. Is that actually your view or was I correct to take your statement as agreement on NPOV as well. Best, Alex Harvey ( talk) 10:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your participation my RfA. Apologies for the lack of Wikilove formatting like I'm using for my other thankspam, but I want to say something a little more complex here, so it will format better this way. As I admitted, you were absolutely right that I screwed up the A7 question. And, as you pointed out...seriously, how was that even possible, given that it's such a common RfA topic, I knew I was under review, and thus who knows what I'll do in the field? And you're totally right. I have no idea how I let the most obvious part of the question slip past me, and got focused on other things that didn't even matter. And I feel especially bad, because yours was support I had really been hoping to have. Why? Well, your work here really impresses me. My interactions with you on AfDs and other places were the first to start to substantively change my opinions about deletionism/inclusionism. At one point, I actually called myself a deletionist; now, I like to think that I'm neither (as, I believe, are you), seeking instead to make individual decisions about individual articles. I also feel like I'm less quick to jump to an AfD on older articles, and more likely to take more steps, give the original/regular editors more time to make improvements, etc. Seeing your work on AfDs and on improving articles helped me realize that we really all should have the same goal: making the articles we have as good as possible, and deleting them only after we've tried to fix the problems and really decided that they are, ultimately, unfixable.
With that being said, if at any time you happen to see me making bad decisions, or even questionable ones, please feel free to step in and tell me to shape up. Furthermore, if you have any particular suggestions about how I might make sure to "get it right", please tell me and I will happily study, review, etc. Of course, I'll be reviewing all of the policies and procedures again before taking any actions, and for the foreseeable future I'll be doing any deletions with the mop in one hand and the guidelines in the other, but I certainly welcome any help that you have. Qwyrxian ( talk) 06:50, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Even though it's been quiet on-wiki, the Wikipedia Ambassador Program has been busy over the last few months getting ready for the next term. We're heading toward over 80 classes in the US, across all disciplines. You'll see courses start popping up here, and this time we want to match one or more Online Ambassadors to each class based on interest or expertise in the subject matter. If you see a class that you're interested, please contact the professor and/or me; the sooner the Ambassadors and professors get in communication, the better things go. Look for more in the coming weeks about next term.
In the meantime, with a little help I've identified all the articles students did significant work on in the last term. Many of the articles have never been assessed, or have ratings that are out of date from before the students improved them. Please help assess them! Pick a class, or just a few articles, and give them a rating (and add a relevant WikiProject banner if there isn't one), and then update the list of articles.
Once we have updated assessments for all these articles, we can get a better idea of how quality varied from course to course, and which approaches to running Wikipedia assignments and managing courses are most effective.
-- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 17:22, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
BTW, do you know why some pages, like yours and also Wikipedia talk:Non-free content amongst others, take so long to load and then give me an "unresponsive script" error message, but load after I tell the script to stop? ww2censor ( talk) 03:12, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
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So you think that a person who has only one film credit, to a film that has not even been released yet, is a claim of notability? The Mark of the Beast ( talk) 22:42, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I am not truly sure for the reasoning for your deletion of this page (Aether mod). I am not related to the Aether mod or the person who created said aether mod page. The person who made that page placed it has placed it within the wrong area, its place should be along with the Minecraft (By "Notch" and Mojang AB) page. You've stated yourself as a librarian which I find to be knowledgeable, helpful and well learned. I do not know all things and subjects within, I do not try to make myself look like I do either. Should one really throw out book just because it was in the wrong place? I believe the information on that page could have been helpful. It is a popular link on google and therefore must recieve some amount of traffic. It's significance was the relation it had with minecraft, a game that has expanding quite a bit since it's initial release. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_mod (Aether mod page) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft (minecraft)
68.105.233.107 ( talk) 02:27, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I've recreated this article, which was deleted in 2006 as "(was put on speedy for nn band; looks like nonsense to me.)", perhaps by someone unfamiliar with UK brass bands. They have recorded, won championships, have a long and illustrious history, etc. Could you userfy for me the previous article, in case there's anything useful in it? Thanks. PamD ( talk) 14:35, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
I see that you undeleted Vach Lewis, but for some reason did not restore the edit which PRODDED it. I have restored that edit, as it should be on record that the article has been the subject of a contested PROD, since that makes it ineligible for another PROD. JamesBWatson ( talk) 12:40, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG, could you please have a look at this issue and share your thoughts on it? Thanks -- DeVerm ( talk) 18:21, 30 July 2011 (UTC).
Hello DGG,
I agree with you 100% that this article should be deleted under WP:NOTMEMORIAL. No compromise on the bottom line. Here, we are dealing with a user who is almost, but not quite, a single purpose account. Six months ago, this user reverted vandalism to George Clooney. Almost certainly, this user is someone close to this little girl who was killed in a car accident a week ago. So, I take exception to your use of the word "pathetic" in the AfD debate. Can't we explain why the article should be deleted while still selecting our words carefully so as not to further hurt someone trying, in all good faith, to add an article that we both agree doesn't belong here? In my view, there is always room for compassion. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Most of the !votes were entered after the article was redirected - and all of the !votes eplicitly deal with the video and its notability (as that is the basis of the article). In that light it seems a bit of a beuro-creep to close that as "keep" (when it is clearly delete) on procedural grounds that it has to be under the new article name :S I encourage you to re-open it, or close it properly. -- Errant ( chat!) 20:19, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hi DGC,
You warned User:Sinharib99 a while ago about creating unsourced BLPs and they have do not seem to have heeded your warning. I've already PROD'd at least a dozen so far and I'm sure there's more to go. Noformation Talk 10:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello, due to recent events a request for arbitration has been filed by ResidentAnthropologist ( talk · contribs) regarding long standing issues in the "Cult" topic area. The request can be found at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Cults The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•( contribs) 07:39, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
For sure! I've restored the deleted material for one user; I can put it up for you too, if you'd like. m.o.p 19:27, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
For some time now, I have been trying to clean up a low-importance article on the American journalist and author Michael Deibert but a user registered as Context23 keeps vandalizing it. Chiefly, Context23 continues to link to what I believe is highly contentious and possibly libelous material in the form of an article attacking Deibert by a Haitian politician named Patrick Elie (one of Deibert’s specialities appears to be Haiti) in a website I have never heard of before. I researched Elie and found that he evidently has a history of making false claims (on his website, Deibert links to articles chronicling how Elie spent time in prison for falsely claiming to be a diplomat and using a false address on a federal firearms transaction in connection to some sort of apparent assassination plot), so I am very worried that this link goes several steps beyond Wiki’s no-libel policy. There is already one article linked to critical of Deibert’s writing (which appear the point of the creation of the Context23 account) and that article falls within Wiki’s standards. However, I find the second article - the one that Context23 continuously links to - and another one linked to by someone named Diana Barahona that accuses Deibert of libel - do not. Thoughts? Thank you for taking time to help with this! Just trying to make Wiki a better community for all concerned! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MultiWorlds ( talk • contribs) 11:42, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
I think you made a very good point, and had I read your post (which cam after I went off-wiki) I would have asked for a short block of this editor. If it's possible to reopen the ANI for that purpose, perhaps that's the way to go rather than an RfC, and would have much the same effect. ScottyBerg ( talk) 13:33, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
At the discussion above no one was proposing that the article be "kept", and were disussing rather the better way to handle its removal from mainspace. There was some unaddressed and apparent misunderstandings of Deletion policy's instructions toward the intent of WP:INCUBATION, which relevent section states "articles which have potential, but which do not yet meet Wikipedia's quality standards, should be moved to the Wikipedia:Article Incubator, where they can continue to be collaboratively edited before either "graduating" to mainspace or ultimately being deleted". As the article was clearly not yet ready for mainspace, and as (per WP:INCUBATION guideline) a rationale has been put forward by at least one person that the article could meet inclusion/content criteria if given time, and a willingness has been established by at least one person to work on the article, would you please either move the article to Wikipedia:Article incubator/The Lone Ranger (film) for collaborative editing, or barring that, please userfy it to me at User:MichaelQSchmidt/The Lone Ranger (film) where I will invite those aforementioned interested editors to contribute to its growth and improvement until such time as it would be suitable for mainspace. Thank you, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:29, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
I read your views and must respectally disagree, based on the lack of any facts to back up your opinions therein. I can't see how User:Cirt has promoted anything (other than his personal views). He is not connected in any way with any of the topics that could constitute a promoter or spammer. Promotion, in my view, has to do with pushing a commercial interest (spamming), or promoting one's religion, school/college, political party (POV pushing), or similar group. Every editor is free to express an opinion by means of creating or editing articles of interest to him or her. I am more concerned that an organziation is pushing its views here at the project. Bearian ( talk) 21:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
What you have replaced in has no source material of any of the verifiable sources. It is a whitewash. Parents should be able to see all material that is relevant and in the public domain when making their choices. For the record there are multiple users of these machines who would like to contribute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by McGregor1969 ( talk • contribs) 21:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Seems better, quite balanced now, but need to correct a few typo's in Guardian results link. Can you clear that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.139.227 ( talk • contribs) 00:10, 3 June 2011
I am sorry to raise this but some individuals have removed and concealed the content of this site. It was of great value to parents like me. We new none of the stuff referred to was going on. Can you please revert the page asap to include all content or remove the edit block. Thank you. I do not believe the current censorship is reasonable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by McGregor1969 ( talk • contribs) 15:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I am not familiar with the history of the St Edmund Campion Catholic School article which you worked on, but I encountered an apparent fork at St Edmund Campion Catholic School, Erdington. The fork has balance and BLP issues. Should it be deleted? • Gene93k ( talk) 01:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
You have again censored the St Edmund Campion Catholic School, Erdington page. Aside from what is contended to be BLP by the individual claiming to have no knowledge of its history (just happens to open an account and makes no other contributions other than to this page) you have also removed all the factual encyclopaedic content such as examination results etc.
This is not a neutral edit, it is censorship / whitewashing. You have also handed out an inappropriate warning. I believe you have not taken an impartial view of the contentions. Please, reinstate the factual content to the article and protect from further alteration, or refer to an administrator who is not partial for re-writing. There is no justification for removing the factual content such as examination data etc.
In relation to the individual judged innocent of a crime, from his perspective it is as important to record he was found not guilty (as the article did) as it was to report throughout the media that he was accused. You have done him a disservice. — Preceding
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With respect to the BLP issue, it is not usually the province of Wikipedia to record the one or the other, though it is certainly true that if the first event was significant enough to include,then the second must be added also. For that matter if an article contained the statement X was found not guilty of something, this too is a violation of BLP policy for it implies he was accused of it. We include such matters only if 1/they involve notable people and the offense is relevant to the notability--as for politicians in office, whose notability is clear and where general character is relevant; or 2/ if the event itself becomes highly notable, as shown by truly significant coverage from multiple more than local unquestionably reliable sources, especially if some public issue is significant, or even if there is massive press clamour--as in the recent Casey Anthony trial, . Neither is relevant here, the person is not notable , and the event not the subject of significant coverage from major sources.The guiding principle here isThat Wikipedia is not a tabloid. The BLP concerns are real, and I am acting on the basis of a valid OTRS request.
As for the official reports on the schools performance, I agree they are relevant material, and I intend to add the reference. DGG ( talk ) 23:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I blocked it as a promotional username that was advertising Foreign Exchange F.C.--v/r - T P 03:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
TThere is no question that someone with an organizational user name editing on behalf of that organization must change their name, and we have a good template that explains why, but the contribution of such an editor are not necessarily spam, and even if they are initially ,they can generally be taught better, Unless they do use it for spamming they require just a change of name and there's no real need to block the old one, but I have no objection to doing such a username block it to avoid confusion over the use of the two new and the old names. But preventing them from doing what they are supposed to, which is to pick another user name and edit is wrong on many counts, and that is the effect of a hard block.It's wrong because its the harshest possible remedy used as the first step. It's wrong because you are assuming they will be spamming, and this is not necessarily the case; it is wrong because even if they were, they can generally persuaded to do better. It's wrong because it makes it very difficult for them to do proper editing if they decide to do that.I t's wrong because if they are determined on spamming, they will open new accounts until they manage to do so. In difficult situations, with repeated insertions, it may be necessary, but not as the first reaction. Almost all beginning editors can be assumed not to know the rules yet, and can be assumed to prefer to edit according the rules , once they know them. If not, then we can deal with them, but your method of procedure assumes bad faith from the very beginning. It is true the wording of the rule permits this, but only a few long term admins actually do it in this inflexible way, and they are just plain wrong. The rule is superseded by the basic principle of respect for newbies. We must have a continual incoming of new editors, and every attempt should be done to retain all who show any possible signs of useful collaboration, It is high time we changed the formal rules, which no longer reflect that actual practices of the community--only a few of the more hidebound older editors do it the way you have decided--you have picked the wrong examples to follow. What we do are the rules, regardless of what we say.
Hello David, I am new to the world of contributing to Wikipedia but I do have an educational/professional interest in article sourcing and, in particular plagiarism. If you would be interested in serving as a mentor please let me know! Thanks, Dazzpedian ( talk) 18:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I left a response and a query here. BTW, thanks for joining the conversation. Steve Quinn ( talk) 02:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Just read your last message (page archived), haven't logged on for a few weeks, concede that I may have been harsh in last message (but not over the top), your reaction was nice and calm. Otherwise, if you followed every newby like you did me, you'd never have time in your day for anything else, so I still think it was a bit stalky, even if not intended that way! Also retract my retraction in the earlier message, you are probably an alright admin, but haven't got time to check. Borgmcklorg ( talk) 10:57, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
A suggestion, you might try replying or sending messages to other people on their own talk pages, certainly looks like you use your own strategy (doing everything on your own one) to, well, you know what you are trying to do. Sure makes the page look busy! Borgmcklorg ( talk) 11:05, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I recently nominated CIT, Rajnandgoan for CSD R3 and you decided it was an appropriate redirect. I think you might not have noticed that the college it redirects to is located in Rajnand-gaon and not Rajnand-goan and I don't think that typo will be made often. A redirect from CIT, Rajnandgaon would be appropriate. So, if we agree that this typo is implausible, it may be reconsidered for deletion. Thanks.-- Siddhartha Ghai ( talk) 00:54, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I created a Category: English landowners and it was put up for deletion at here. Please comment at this CFD for whether or not you support these categories. It is not meant for anybody who ever owned a plot of land but the traditional wealthy landowners in British history at a time when "Landowner" was an official occupation and was their main source of power and esteem. Feudal lords are most certainly notable in my view. I am personally intrested in country estates and their holders and was shocked that we had no category to link major property owners. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:37, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Now somebody is trying to delete Category:Country houses in England at here. Clearly they are not aware of the facts that Houses in... is supposed to include every house in whatever its type and country house is distinct from a townhouse, almhouse which many counties have.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:16, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Does Wikipedia have any policy for citing common-law spouses? I was reading an article about Richard Mentor Johnson, the Vice-President under Martin Van Buren, and the article said that he had a common-law wife. However, the infobox said Johnson was unmarried with a note about a common-law wife. I disagree that a person with a common-law spouse is unmarried. How do you think this should be handled? Debbie W. 04:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwainwr123 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks. I will post it on the BLP noticeboard. Debbie W. 13:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwainwr123 ( talk • contribs)
Hello there. You said in this edit that you could and would check my CSD history. I was accused (not by you) of knowingly and repeatedly misusing A7. It was very easy for that user to make those claims without providing any evidence. I asked that user to either provide evidence or to provide a retraction; s/he did neither! It's very easy to cast aspersions, and to call people's good names into question. I have been waiting for you to review my CSD history, and for you to confirm that those claims are totally false and without reason. I look forward to hearing, or should I say seeing, your review. — Fly by Night ( talk) 22:45, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
I recently posted to Wikipedia talk:Further reading to agree with something you said. I'm not sure if you have that page watchlisted, so I'm dropping off a note to point out what I said here. I've also asked a few others to comment, as I'd like to see this discussed more. Carcharoth ( talk) 23:46, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi I've opened a discussion about categorizing actors and actresses separately at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers#Splitting actors by gender. I need some input. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:37, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello again, DGG …
Since you declined my WP:CSD nomination of Samir Joubran ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), and I lack the motivation at this moment to put lipstick on a pig, I have flagged it with the WP:FLAG-BIO protocol … also, someone should initiate a dialog with the article's creator if there are going to be any constructive improvements to it. :-)
Happy Editing! — 70.21.24.28 ( talk · contribs) 03:05, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
The point is that it's much friendlier than the WP:CSD warning, which has been their only contact, and which does not invite a dialog. — 70.21.24.28 ( talk) 03:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)… I realize that some of the expressed possible concerns may not be appropriate in this case.
Thanks for the kudos. I've been trying to make a habit of closing hard AFDs, and it's a bad idea to be too attached to the outcome - or afraid of peer review - when so doing. DRV is good to have since it can help correct these kinds of mistakes, so as long as it doesn't get heated and people don't take it personally, I think it's a great fail-safe to have in place. Regards, causa sui ( talk) 04:20, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, this user has created several good new articles and has been around a while. I stumbled upon this editor patrolling the backlog og unpatrolled new changes. Have a look at her contribution history, she might merit Autopatroller rights. Thanks. -- Crusio ( talk) 07:49, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello my name is Andres and in my ITGS (Infromation and technology in a global society)course, of the IB I need to interview someone who is related tot he issue of my choice. Since my issue is Wikipedia I was wondering if I could possibly interview you. I would greatly appreciate if so. Please provide me a way to contact you such as an e-mail address so I can send the interview. Thank You Poysndi ( talk) 15:16, 21 July 2011 (UTC) Thank you for your response. This interview is for my portfolio extension (internal assessment). I did a portfolio (ITGS) on Wikipedia, with the are of impact being education the issue being the fact that some schools block Wikipedia. Based on this portfolio I am planning on writing an extension on to what extent Wikipedia should be used in education, what its role is or something along those lines. The interview is 9 questions long and I believe pretty much anyone who's involved in the Wikipedia project could answer however a more experienced user might prove more a credible source for the IBO.
Poysndi ( talk) 17:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Excuse my ignorance but how do I e-mail you? Poysndi ( talk) 19:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
DGG, I would greatly appreciate your advising me how I might access the aforementioned deleted page or, in the alternative, your sending a complete copy (including images and references) to me via e-mail to mooney1084v@aol.com.
I would like to review same in order to intelligently discuss it with you and toward possible submission for reconsideration of the deletion.
Thanks!
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 06:01, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
DGG,
I would respectfully request that you view the following videos towards reconsidering your decision to delete this page:
http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2010/03/military_families_cope_with_tr.html
http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2009/10/veterans_groups_reach_out_to_h.html
Rather than an exercise in self-aggrandizement, this page serves as a mechanism for interested parties to contact me and to assist veterans in dire need.
Gary R. Englert
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 11:43, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
With all due respect and any representations to the contrary, I would respectfully submit that Wikipedia contains countless articles devoted to organizations, enterprises and individuals that serve little more purpose than to promote a profit making enterprise. This page is most certainly far from that. The point of asking you to review the videos provided was not to suggest that I was the subject but, that they are about the work that I do and the compelling causes that I champion; described as such because they clearly are just that... unless one views homeless and traumatic brain injured veterans as something less. Point in fact, these issues would have virtually no public awareness at all if activists like myself weren't beating the drum. The donation of cash, goods and services is the tangible result; more than $40,000 for the soldiers being treated at Kessler alone.
As to that portion of resume provided, it is only that which is necessary to gain the type of credibility that is necessary to gain the trust and acceptance required to interface with and assist combat veterans. It is a given that an Internet search for virtually anyone these days results in their Wikipedia entry (if they have one) being the first or second item that appears on any search engine. Deleting my page will simply serve to diminish my effectiveness in doing what considerable good I do.
Finally, I must point to the following opinion voiced in the deletion discussion:
"Keep - Seems to have enough material on him to make him notable." Hawkeye7
It would appear that this editor (Hawkeye7) has Wikipedia credentials and academic experience equal to your own, with the notable difference being that his professional discipline is military history. Given the limited discussion that occurred, how does one editor's opinion outweigh another's of equal stature?
Lastly, concerning Ron Ritzman's inquiry about wowikiprince, I would opine that this one-time contributer is another psuedonym employed by poster woconcernsme who repeatedly vandalized this page in the past. When one's civic activism results in arrests, indictments, convictions and sanctions against criminal, one does have the tendency to make lifelong enemies.
Gary R. Englert
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 16:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
David (if I may call you David?)<
Accepting for the moment that this page is "promotional," will you concede it is towards reasons worth embracing and not for personal or financial gain? If you do, I'd like to suggest a temporary compromise.
With the approach of the 10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks, many veterans suffering from PTSD will find thesmelves restimulated and in need of services. Accessibility to activists such as myself, who can provide advice and counsel, are a valuable resource and surely a benefit to all.
In orde that I be more accessible to the public in these coming weeks, I would ask you to temporarily re-post the page, wiht the provision that I will work with Hawkeye7 or whichever other editor you might suggest, to create an article meeting all acceptable criteria.
Would you eb inclined to take such a leap of faith? Surely, the good I may be able to do will more than offset any minor temporary tarnish on Wikipedia's protocols.
Thanks!
Gary
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 18:54, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
Dave,
I understand your point, however, there is not a single statement in this article that is untrue and only one that, though true, lacks an appropriate citation. It damn sure ain't bragging if you've done it and it is the very nature of veteran advocacy that one talks about their experiences! Again, I'm more than happy to have this re-written by a Wikipedia editor and then submitted for your review and approval. I'm only asking that you repost the article...let's say for a maximum of thirty days or until the new one is written...whichever comes first.
I've been doing this work for a lot of years and I know what demons will be awakened in the next six weeks. Toward that end, I want to be as accesible as I can to those who may need help. Whaetever else, Wikipedia has and will serve that purpose.
What do you say?
Gary
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 20:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
Dave,
My apologies; I thought we were having a courteous conversation. which is what I was encourage to do by adminstrator JohnCD. It is not my intent to annoy you. You are incorrect, however, insofar as I have never solicited donation through Wikipedia and am not doing so now. The fundraising I referred to (for soldiers being treated at Kessler) began and ended before this page was even published. I was simply providing an example of the good that can be done with some exposure and Wikipedia does provide that. I also understand your postion: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and you are trying to maintain that focus.
Gary
< Mooney1084v ( talk) 22:37, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
Dave,
Fair enough. I just thought reposting the page pending a re-write was a reasonable compromise. if this was not accomplished as promised, you'd still have the ability to pull the plug. Whatever else, this is not about self-interest. I'll hope to be contacted by administrator Hawkeye7.
Gary < 68.37.208.222 ( talk) 23:15, 22 July 2011 (UTC)>
I was wondering how you felt about the close at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gargoyle_Router_Firmware. I spoke to the closing administrator [ [3]] and pointed out that all of those saying keep cited the sources were fine, while the delete people said otherwise. Thus there was no consensus. Dream Focus 09:49, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the "honors" on doing the merge. I hope I did it right. There was basically nothing to copy except Labin's title, which itself comes from a dubious source. Yoninah ( talk) 22:18, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Good afternoon! Some time ago you voted to keep the article on Kathy Chitty. It has been nominated for deletion again. If youy have the time could you have a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kathy Chitty (3rd nomination) and add any comment you might have. Thanks. Regards Rickedmo ( talk) 18:22, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Is there any independent way, such as an accreditation system, to check on an outfit calling itself a University in the US?
I ask because of this little walled garden which appeared today:
I have already taken the Fraternity to AfD, after declining a speedy, because I can find no refs independent of the University. The Fraternity has "endorsed" a book written by the University's President, Zviad Lazarashvili; the University has a scholarship in its name; and it has already awarded the University the "2012 Laissez-faire Medal of Freedom." It all seems rather incestuous.
The one that concerns me is the "International University" in Philadelphia, which claims to have been founded in 1812 (though its website was only set up on 19 May this year) and to have 1,200 students. The article references are extremely thin, many to books by Zviad Lazarashvili published by the University Press, whose only publications on Google Books or Amazon are by him; his other books have been published by CreateSpace and BookSurge, print-on-demand companies. He does not appear in Google Scholar.
Such references as I can find are mainly the University website or about the Press publishing Lazarashvili's books. Beyond all the obvious problems of puffery, I am wondering whether there is anything real there at all, or whether at best this is something that is just starting up.
The "Academy" in Tbilisi seems a bit more real. JohnCD ( talk) 19:51, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
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Could you take a look, please? -- Orange Mike | Talk 20:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
I agree with your close on the Atheism 3.0 AfD, but in my opinion it might have been better to wait the full 7 X 24 hours, considering it was ca contested discussion. Even a few hours early tend to drift, as other people go to 6 then 12 hours early, etc. This is one place where it matters. This definitely does not mean I disagree in the slightest with the close, and I certainly do not plan to take exception to it, but just a reminder. DGG ( talk ) 23:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thanks for this. Seems logical to me too. Yes, what has drawn me back somewhat is the recent AfDs on museum, cultural, etc. stuff. Hope all is going well for you. StarM 17:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I appreciated your warning on BLP concerning Robert Zoellick's bio. I see you're also an Ambassador. Can you use another mentee? I hope you can help me because a reliable stakeholder analysis predicted in 2004 a 90% risk that failure to resolve the issues now under consideration in Wikipedia will result in a currency war. I will be happy to share this stakeholder analysis with you and other background documentation. The former Chair of the World Bank's Audit Committee invited me yesterday to connect on LinkedIn. Currency1 ( talk) 10:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
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VQuakr ( talk) 00:57, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
I think we need a small clarification at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#BLP_errors_in_mentions_of_James_Cantor_.28me.29.. (not watching this page) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 16:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG, thank you again for your input at Talk:Hockey stick controversy where you said, "Criticism is almost always the better word [better than "attack"] for a Wikipedia article on anything controversial. The reader will decide on the nature of the criticism and the merits of the arguments." You might be surprised that despite your input and that of two others who said the same thing, it is being claimed that because you qualified this with "almost always", it means that while you agreed on the specific point ("criticism" not "attack"), you probably didn't agree on the general principle or interpretation of NPOV. Somehow they claim that you would still think that if a reliable source uses emotive, loaded language, it is generally better to the use exactly the same terms in the article to avoid misrepresenting the source or subtly altering the meaning or reducing the clarity. Is that actually your view or was I correct to take your statement as agreement on NPOV as well. Best, Alex Harvey ( talk) 10:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your participation my RfA. Apologies for the lack of Wikilove formatting like I'm using for my other thankspam, but I want to say something a little more complex here, so it will format better this way. As I admitted, you were absolutely right that I screwed up the A7 question. And, as you pointed out...seriously, how was that even possible, given that it's such a common RfA topic, I knew I was under review, and thus who knows what I'll do in the field? And you're totally right. I have no idea how I let the most obvious part of the question slip past me, and got focused on other things that didn't even matter. And I feel especially bad, because yours was support I had really been hoping to have. Why? Well, your work here really impresses me. My interactions with you on AfDs and other places were the first to start to substantively change my opinions about deletionism/inclusionism. At one point, I actually called myself a deletionist; now, I like to think that I'm neither (as, I believe, are you), seeking instead to make individual decisions about individual articles. I also feel like I'm less quick to jump to an AfD on older articles, and more likely to take more steps, give the original/regular editors more time to make improvements, etc. Seeing your work on AfDs and on improving articles helped me realize that we really all should have the same goal: making the articles we have as good as possible, and deleting them only after we've tried to fix the problems and really decided that they are, ultimately, unfixable.
With that being said, if at any time you happen to see me making bad decisions, or even questionable ones, please feel free to step in and tell me to shape up. Furthermore, if you have any particular suggestions about how I might make sure to "get it right", please tell me and I will happily study, review, etc. Of course, I'll be reviewing all of the policies and procedures again before taking any actions, and for the foreseeable future I'll be doing any deletions with the mop in one hand and the guidelines in the other, but I certainly welcome any help that you have. Qwyrxian ( talk) 06:50, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Even though it's been quiet on-wiki, the Wikipedia Ambassador Program has been busy over the last few months getting ready for the next term. We're heading toward over 80 classes in the US, across all disciplines. You'll see courses start popping up here, and this time we want to match one or more Online Ambassadors to each class based on interest or expertise in the subject matter. If you see a class that you're interested, please contact the professor and/or me; the sooner the Ambassadors and professors get in communication, the better things go. Look for more in the coming weeks about next term.
In the meantime, with a little help I've identified all the articles students did significant work on in the last term. Many of the articles have never been assessed, or have ratings that are out of date from before the students improved them. Please help assess them! Pick a class, or just a few articles, and give them a rating (and add a relevant WikiProject banner if there isn't one), and then update the list of articles.
Once we have updated assessments for all these articles, we can get a better idea of how quality varied from course to course, and which approaches to running Wikipedia assignments and managing courses are most effective.
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BTW, do you know why some pages, like yours and also Wikipedia talk:Non-free content amongst others, take so long to load and then give me an "unresponsive script" error message, but load after I tell the script to stop? ww2censor ( talk) 03:12, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
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So you think that a person who has only one film credit, to a film that has not even been released yet, is a claim of notability? The Mark of the Beast ( talk) 22:42, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I am not truly sure for the reasoning for your deletion of this page (Aether mod). I am not related to the Aether mod or the person who created said aether mod page. The person who made that page placed it has placed it within the wrong area, its place should be along with the Minecraft (By "Notch" and Mojang AB) page. You've stated yourself as a librarian which I find to be knowledgeable, helpful and well learned. I do not know all things and subjects within, I do not try to make myself look like I do either. Should one really throw out book just because it was in the wrong place? I believe the information on that page could have been helpful. It is a popular link on google and therefore must recieve some amount of traffic. It's significance was the relation it had with minecraft, a game that has expanding quite a bit since it's initial release. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_mod (Aether mod page) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft (minecraft)
68.105.233.107 ( talk) 02:27, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I've recreated this article, which was deleted in 2006 as "(was put on speedy for nn band; looks like nonsense to me.)", perhaps by someone unfamiliar with UK brass bands. They have recorded, won championships, have a long and illustrious history, etc. Could you userfy for me the previous article, in case there's anything useful in it? Thanks. PamD ( talk) 14:35, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
I see that you undeleted Vach Lewis, but for some reason did not restore the edit which PRODDED it. I have restored that edit, as it should be on record that the article has been the subject of a contested PROD, since that makes it ineligible for another PROD. JamesBWatson ( talk) 12:40, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi DGG, could you please have a look at this issue and share your thoughts on it? Thanks -- DeVerm ( talk) 18:21, 30 July 2011 (UTC).
Hello DGG,
I agree with you 100% that this article should be deleted under WP:NOTMEMORIAL. No compromise on the bottom line. Here, we are dealing with a user who is almost, but not quite, a single purpose account. Six months ago, this user reverted vandalism to George Clooney. Almost certainly, this user is someone close to this little girl who was killed in a car accident a week ago. So, I take exception to your use of the word "pathetic" in the AfD debate. Can't we explain why the article should be deleted while still selecting our words carefully so as not to further hurt someone trying, in all good faith, to add an article that we both agree doesn't belong here? In my view, there is always room for compassion. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Most of the !votes were entered after the article was redirected - and all of the !votes eplicitly deal with the video and its notability (as that is the basis of the article). In that light it seems a bit of a beuro-creep to close that as "keep" (when it is clearly delete) on procedural grounds that it has to be under the new article name :S I encourage you to re-open it, or close it properly. -- Errant ( chat!) 20:19, 31 July 2011 (UTC)