Archive 37: October 2011 through March 2012. Please do not edit this page -- use my regular talk page instead, as I will not see your message here.
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Hi Antandrus-
I have a really dumb off-the-wall question - I'd be happy to accept a wild guess, but please don't put yourself out trying to research it.
Here at Wikipedia, as well as at IMSLP [1], and in any of the recordings that I have access to, the accent acute é is always missing. But if you come down and look at the sheet music at that IMSLP link, it's always spelled Prélude. Nearly every other occasion where a diacritic is called for, it is conscientiously used, both here and elsewhere. Does this make sense to you? Milkunderwood ( talk) 20:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Speaking of combat zones, Antandrus, I don't recall your jumping into this knock-down-drag-out yet. (Nor any of you here.) Anyway, I thought it was pretty funny that SOED listed Etui but not Etude, in either form. How's this for conservatism? Milkunderwood ( talk) 04:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Let me note first that we are almost neighbors. The few facts concerning yourself are remarkably similar to those of a casual acquaintance whom I have not seen for several years, and whose name escapes me. If you have played bridge at the Santa Barbara Bridge Club, then we are acquainted.
I am not happy with your comment. The article is wrong and the fact that it is wrong is not subject to serious debate. I was annoyed when my original correction to the article was deleted. I originally corrected the article at least a year ago and was surprised and disappointed when I reviewed the article a few days ago and found that the article had not been corrected. Hence the subsequent corrections.
My reply to Caleb somebody or another:
Hi.
Lets begin at the beginning.
First, the DATA article contains repeated assertions that the word data 1) originated in Latin; and 2) is the plural form of the Latin word datum. Both of these claims are false.
Second, correction of factual errors in articles by users is officially encouraged by Wikipedia.
Third, characterization of a specific verifiable rebuttal of a false factual claim in a Wikipedia article as vandalism is plainly and simply insulting. You stand in direct violation of the general guidelines which are supposed to govern conduct in these matters.
I expect your apology and restoration of the deleted rebuttal forthwith.
RWM
Cordially, RWM
Hi Antandus, I think it is fine and necessary to add on pro-abortion or pro-choice page that it is also called as "pro-abortion". By atleast this line: It is also called pro-abortion. (or) It is called pro-abortion by the pro-life supporters (or) activists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.137.84.102 ( talk • contribs)
changed the .35 to .54 on the IP and continued the vandalism-- Львівське ( говорити) 04:56, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Antandrus, I am coming to you now simply requesting advice, because in my experience you have always responded to queries (which in itself not every editor has done), but more importantly, with considered thoughtfulness. (How's that for buttering you up? :-) - but it's true.)
My question here concerns the existing article Arthur Rubinstein discography, with which I have expressed discontent both there in two separate sections on its talk page, and on my own User:Milkunderwood page. You will find that I and User:THD3, who has been the primary contributor to this article, disagree on its relative merits, but I believe our disagreements have been and remain friendly, and have not devolved to being a dispute - this is not the issue. You might note, in looking at the history of that article, that the format of the existing discographic table had originally been set up by a different editor, who appears to have since abandoned it. [Edit: There's also this brief discussion: User talk:THD3#Arthur Rubinstein discography, again.
Being discontented with that table's layout, I decided to attempt a different format for a Rubinstein discography in my sandbox, where I have now set up only a number of sample entries, followed by an explanation of my rationale for its organization.
If you would care to look at any of these pages, my first and most basic question is whether in your judgment my sandbox attempt is even worth pursuing, given that continuing with it would necessarily involve untold hours of work. If you believe it is not, I can happily abandon it forthwith.
Or you may have other suggestions, such as how my own effort might be improved; or how, if it is continued, it might be integrated with the present table; or perhaps be eventually posted either as a separate table within the existing article, or as its own separate article.
Then several specific issues have been raised, or at least thought of, for instance:
So if you might care to take the time to investigate any of this, I put myself in your hands. As always, I very much appreciate your efforts. Milkunderwood ( talk) 19:19, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the encouragement. Yes, I've already posted at the article's talkpage. Assuming that I would proceed and invest the time, I don't suppose you might have any thoughts on how it could be posted, either together with THD3's table somehow, or as a separate article? He is very understandably loath to see his own hard work go away. I think this issue needs to be settled first, whether or not mine may be worthwhile continuing. This is actually the biggest hangup for me, because I'm just not familiar with Wikipedia's policies and styles on a question like this. I don't see how the two tables can be incorporated into one, and putting them separately together in a single article would be huge. Or if they were separate articles, how might they be differentiated?
Actually, if you (or any page-watcher) have suggestions to make on this matter, Talk:Arthur Rubinstein discography#Suggested alternative table layout might be a more logical place to post them. Milkunderwood ( talk) 23:40, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
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I didn't bother looking to far into your undo revision on the warmblooded wiki, I'm assuming you're also trying to fix it, I'm just going to let it be because I know there is a way to revert all those bad edits at once. Thanks if your helping clean it up. If you aren't doing that, well.. thanks for being funny and stuff, that was pretty funny actually, I was going to encourage the act but cut it out regardless... the chaos seems to be a sort of free e-tron pool... sort of.. anyway peace to you
Thanks for fixing that vandalism on the cotton gin page. It's been getting a lot of vandalism lately - do you think it might be possible to have it semi-protected or something? Thanks, Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 02:27, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Whilst I have no objections to your edit, I really didn't think the previous text was that bad. However, the IP's version changed meanding whilst yours didn't. What exactly was your rationale in editing it, the previous comment included a quote, was that it? Wee Curry Monster talk 19:10, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello, you recently deleted William Adams (judge), under the grounds that it was a "article about a living person in a negative tone" and generally unsourced. To begin, this was a page about a living person, who just so happened to be a judge at the time the article was written, (which, by the way, was under a rapid transformation, and was in no way negative, but rather informative). Nowhere in the article did I use undermining words such as "terrible" or "blatant" which may have emphasis on a "negative" page. Please direct me to where in the article you believe I was using undermining language, or a tone of speech that was negative rather than informative. Additionally, you state that the sources were incomplete and generally unverifiable; this is a current event , and sources change all the time. Look at this source, from Gawker, a trusted and official web news provider: http://gawker.com/5855478/reddit-video-apparently-shows-texas-family-judge-beating-disabled-daughter
As news continues to break out about this tender subject, I made the page and placed the "current event" tag on there to make sure that it would not be put up for speedy deletion. Please allow me to recreate this page with updated (and verifiable) sources. Thank you. Touch Of Light ( talk) 05:33, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
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For you observations on Wikipedia behaviour. Most of them are totally true, even if we hate to admit it. Happy editing! pluma Ø 21:29, 6 November 2011 (UTC) |
Antandrus, I wonder if you've chanced to look at my User:Milkunderwood/sandbox Hovhaness, and whether you might have any comments or suggestions? If so, please post there - thanks. That is a very public project, not just for Jerome and me. Milkunderwood ( talk) 06:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to trouble you but perhaps you could take a look at Richard Wagner and its talk page. User:Major Torp is causing some turmoil here, partly fuelled by rather miscellaneous gleanings from Google Books and Project Gutenberg, and in both small and large-scale edits is behaving in a manner which might not unreasonably be construed by some as provocative. With thanks, --Smerus 10:18, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Could you be kind and help with a balancing act so the cornered situation can be resolved in the Wagner discussion page .Thank you User:Major Torp ( talk) 13:48, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Are you familiar with Francis W. Wilson or his works? It seems he designed much of Montecito and a lot of the public buildings in Santa Barbara. I found him tangentially (he designed the Grand Canyon Depot) and found he had no article. Acroterion (talk) 16:02, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
If there was ever a place to build a mansion once you'd made your fortune in railroads, copper mining, banks or newspapers, Santa Barbara (or Montecito) was it at the beginning of the 20th century. Looks like the weather's going to be be uncharacteristically gray for this time of the year. I think several people had a hand in the Music Academy. Acroterion (talk) 04:02, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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I'm afraid your IP friend is back and has picked up where he left off at Ian Gow. He seems unable to edit collaboratively and is still resorting to the same WP:PA as he did before. And he won't use the talk page. He's heading for another lengthy block. Wee Curry Monster talk 15:35, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your attention to this. Like you, I assume edits by this IP editor are in good faith, but it would appear not well sourced. I have reviewed some of the edits at List of Medieval composers and see you've looked at some of the Renaissance ones. I'll look back later to see if all is well. (RT) ( talk) 02:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
I've mentioned your name here. What an unpleasant thread. Bishonen | talk 00:00, 23 November 2011 (UTC).
I see that you've been trying to engage with User:24.209.139.161. I've just rolled back a series of edits by this person...... Best. -- Guillaume Tell 22:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
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It's not only brilliant, but inspirational.
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just because an article is edited by an IP number doesnt make it Vandalism. I actually removed Vandalism and added tons of new and updated content to my High School's page. Be considerate and thoughtful. Prospective students and families will be looking at that page. Do you think they want to see the slogan is "Our Only (student's name)" instead of "Our Only Hope", or that the current student body is 7/8ths of the size listed here? how about that tuition has increased over $500 since the last update? Use your domepiece.. Bro. ( IKnowEverythingAboutAnything ( talk) 03:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC))
I was re adding about a half an hours worth of work that Markvs88 reverted and it refreshed while I was updating. But thank you, would have taken a few days to re add everything had someone truly deleted the entire article.
Sorry to bother you, but could you please semi-protect the cotton gin article again, even if temporarily? As soon as the first protection expired, the IP vandals came back in force - the number of recent IP vandalism edits far outnumber useful edits. Thanks Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 16:07, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
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Please do me a favor and look at the recent edit issue associated with the Franz Liszt article. The editor is screaming at me, in edit summaries, and on my talk page (as an IP) about my removal of sourced material. What he's adding is poorly done, even assuming it's verifiable from the source. I can't just recast it because I don't have the source. At the same time, I don't want to war with him over sourced content. I'll leave it to your judgment as to how this should be handled (if you're willing). Thanks.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:39, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Antandrus. If you're around could you take a look at this? An editor made cut and paste moves from La favorite and Talk:La favorite to La Favorite and Talk:La Favorite with no discussion, after the pages had been at their original location for years, claiming that this is the title on Italian Wikipedia as the sole justification in the edit summary. This was obviously not an uncontroversial move even if it had been done properly. I've requested an admin to move them back over the redirects to La favorite and Talk:La favorite so that a requested move discussion take place without further complicating the histories of the talk pages. The request is here at the Cut and paste move repair holding pen, but I'm not sure if that was the right place to ask.
I couldn't discuss this with the editor who made the cut and paste move, User:Dodecalog, as they have (rather bizarrely) redirected their own talk page to their user page. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 19:27, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
For expanding and rescuing articles on Polish medieval composers ( Sebastian z Felsztyna, Mikołaj z Chrzanowa). Sebastian is now DYK eligible, you may want to nominate it for front page exposure at T:TDYK :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:00, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to have collided with you at Jack's talk page. I hope you didn't have to retype it all. I have learned the hard way to "copy" before pushing "Save".
I am making up my list of favourite Christmas music for 2011. (It changes.) What performances have you to recommend? Bielle ( talk) 21:01, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I noticed this - I love the sound of that instrument, how did you get into it? Seems it must be much more difficult to play than the ondes Martenot - but perhaps it's really no more difficult than the cello? I find Waxman's Bride of Frankenstein - particularly the theremin episodes - some of the most evocative of all movie music (a pity about the film). Best wishes, as always, RobertG ♬ talk 09:41, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Interesting thread! I've thought about building one from a kit, but haven't quite worked up the initiative to do it. Is Dr. Samuel Hoffman well regarded among Theremin cognoscenti? I only know of him from his pop-related work. Short Brigade Harvester Boris ( talk) 03:48, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
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Seasons greetings, you may remember we conversed some time ago about that IP editor and how IP editors were being "bitten". I've just oberved it isn't just IP editors but also newbie editors until they have something on their user page. Editors who don't spend time decorating their user pages with info boxes but quietly get on with editing content seem to be treated in the same way. I thought you may find the observation of interest, particularly bearing in mind the essay you wrote about wikipedia behaviour. Wee Curry Monster talk 19:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
[14] (though now resolved). Taivo is actually a professor of linguistics. Go Wikipedia!
Anyhow, Merry Christmas! -- Folantin ( talk) 12:13, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, I saw your comments on the Jion de Jordan deletion page re this user. Looking at a couple of places where he's contributed, or tried to contribute, he looks like a high school student.
He's tried to add himself (or someone with a remarkably similar name) to List of 21st-century classical composers, and to the births of 1998, and to disambiguation pages listing major musical compositions. All of these edits were undone by other users.
From this and from your experience, he doesn't seem to be following the conventions of WP. You as an admin will know better than I what can be done about him - but at his age (if truly born in 1998) it seems odd that he has scholarship to the extent that he's adding obscure composers. Perhaps he should either be banned, or given an article to write to channel his energies correctly! asnac ( talk) 12:49, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus & Asnac,
This is Cmach7's mother. I have just come into this by just happening to check my son's email. He is in fact 13 years old and extrememly bright. He is high functioning autistic and extremely into composer's, and composing his own classical music as well, and quite good at it. So he does think in his mind that he will be a future famous composer. He has a amazing memory, especially for dates, but also sometimes makes up his own, and then believes them to be true.
You are correct in that he has done all of this in good faith, but does not understand what Wikipedia is suppose to be used for. I'm amazed that he figured out how to get out there and edit information on his own out on Wikipedia in the first place.
I did just go over everything you all wrote above with him and told him that he is not to edit anything else on Wikipedia anymore until I review it and we go over together how to actual cite any references on where he has found his information to post. He has agreed.
I will have to look at this all more on how to do all this correctly, because he does like doing this and I don't know that much about it, but he just needs to be shown how to do it correctly, and not the way he was doing it. He now knows it needs to be factual and credible information that he needs to cite. I don't think he understands how to cite a reference yet, until I show him.
Thank you and have a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! :o)
FWIW, I can't find anything about Jion (which doesn't look much like a Provençal name to me) in JSTOR or New Grove -- it's possible though that it's a variant spelling of another troubadour, but I can't think of who. I looked up Conradus de Pistoria in other sources. Phrases such as "Two of his compositions survive, both three-voice ballades." seemed suspicious for a 13-year-old and possibly lifted from elsewhere, but I can't find it anywhere, so my hunch is that he has absorbed the style of writing of music dictionaries and is writing wonderfully fluent prose. But Jion needs to remain gone unless there's a citation. (any admins have the old text? I might look over it to see if there's anything suspicious). merry christmas. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 06:25, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Jion de Jordan (1142/1145-1200) was a troubadour from Limousin. His brother was Amanieu de Jordan, his sister was Gormonsa and was close friends with Raimbaut d'Aurenga and Guilhem de Saint-Leidier. 10 of his works survive including 8 cansos and 2 sirventes. But only one of them survive with a melody which is En Parabasia. One of his sirventes he written with Raimbaut d'Aurenga and Arnaut Daniel.
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I doubt I could imitate medieval Occitan that well. That's Chattertonesque. Astonishing. Antandrus (talk) 14:29, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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You too, Ant. Here's a typical bishounen — a pretty boy not much like me, who am neither pretty nor boy — daintily helping himself from your citrus orchard. So you too associate oranges with Christmas? If I had a penny for every time my mother has told me that oranges were unknown in her childhood, back in the early eighteenth century, except for one memorable Christmas when she was given one ("Or, well, part of one. I had to share it with my sisters"), then I'd be… well, not really rich, I suppose. Just comfortably off. Bishonen | talk 00:25, 25 December 2011 (UTC).
...and a very Happy New Year, Antandrus! Thanks so much for all your help. All the best, Voceditenore ( talk) 10:09, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
You absolutely must stop engaging another editor by reverting and edit warring. It doesn't matter who is right- but you've been around long enough that I assume you know edit warring takes two. tedder ( talk) 06:05, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello. The agenda I was positioning myself against, so many moons ago, was founded upon an absurd sustained abuse of policy, that policy being "Wikipedia is not censored". What I believe my post pointed out fairly clearly was that to characterise said debate as being an issue of censorship is utterly ridiculous. The way in which it was being so characterized was and is a great deal more circumlocutive and ultimately useless than anything I've contributed, being that it essentially obliterated the entire debate in order to replace it with an easily molested strawman. Every sentence but one in my original post on the talk page makes an obvious point with a clear purpose entirely relevant to both Wikipedia policy and the established norms in Wikipedians' enforcement of that policy, and as I said in the reply on Acterion's talk page, which is not circumlocutive filibustering no matter how much you may want to pretend it is: my post was a very obvious attempt at jettisoning the silliest part of a debate in order to move forward. Not unusual in the slightest. To finish, a) diplomatically aimed invective is generally more productive than defiantly tenuous stonewalling, and b) there's a very fine balance between assuming good faith and assuming the lack of an assumption of good faith. Happy new year, -- Jemimallah ( talk) 17:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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At Talk:Piano Sonata No. 8 (Beethoven)#Requested move both User:DavidRF and User:Kleinzach have requested a "speedy close" to this section, for reasons discussed there: parallel move requests at a number of separate pages. As an administrator, would you mind taking a look at this and see what you think? Thanks. Milkunderwood ( talk) 15:56, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello - thanks for dealing with this the way you saw fit. I'd ask, as you suggested, that we close the discussion at Talk:Moonlight Sonata and start over. I'm sorry if I muddied things up. As I wrote on Talk:Piano Sonata No. 8 (Beethoven)#Requested move, people were using the fact that "Moonlight Sonata" was the only one of Beethoven's sonatas to be titled by its nickname on WP as a reason to change that title. One editor in particular was asking rhetorically if supporting "Moonlight" meant that people would support changing other ones. So I thought I'd find out, apparently not in the right manner. At this point, I think a new, centralized discussion would be the best way forward. I'm also posting this on the Moonlight page. Thanks. Dohn joe ( talk) 18:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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After User:Aad351's last outrageous edit, I took her to WP:AIV. User:7 blocked her for 12 hours. Frankly, I was very surprised at the shortness of the block, considering her behavior. I don't know whether I should raise the issue with 7 or just let it go. The only possible rationale I can think of for such a short block is 7 felt Aad351 should be permitted to stick around to contribute to the AfD discussion or to improve the article, but given her behavior, that's awfully tough to justify.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 02:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
5 people, out of over 500 million that use Wikipedia, including you attacked him and his page because he is a U.S. Celebrity and U.S. Combat Veteran, you and they were petty and every-time I tried to make corrections, they deleted my corrections to cause my page to be deleted.
Herzog was a key and central figure in some of the biggest news stories of 2009, 2010, 2011, Mel Gibson, Herman Cain and many other National and International News Stories.
You and they have violated Wikipedia rules and will be banned from Wikipedia soon.
I have contacted Kris Herzog, his Attorney/s called me, researched this issue and has made an appeal to the corporate Headquarters of Wikipedia http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Contact_us, as Kris Herzog's clients have donated several million dollars to Wikipedia.
Kris Herzog's Attorney has asked Wikipedia to BAN YOU and those that attacked his page.
I hope you and those other idiots enjoy being BANNED from Wikipedia for attacking his page. NO ONE ever countered my argument that Kris Herzog is MORE Noteworthy than THOUSANDS of others that currently have Wikipedia pages.
You and the others attacked his page because he is man American Celebrity and United States Combat Veteran.
I, he and his people all feel a great injustice has been done by you and those others, we have all agreed to make it our mission in life to get you all banned from Wikipedia, to make sure you can not abuse any others, as you did us.
Your Power and theirs is about to be taken away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aad351 ( talk • contribs) 12:35, 16 January 2012
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Hi, do you think you could look into semi-protecting Mohenjo-daro for a month or so? It gets a disproportionate amount of IP vandalism for such a niche topic. Thanks - Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 02:33, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Once again I call upon you (sorry for the inconvenience :p) - the Centenarian [page has received a sudden flood of IP vandals, who are turning it into an edit war zone. Could you please semi-protect, maybe for just a month? Thanks for your time. Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 19:49, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback. I apologize, but I still do not understand what to do. You wrote:
"Just use the "move page" link, or alternatively just copy and paste from the edit box into a redlink like the one below"
However, I dont see any "move page" link, nor a redline below. I feel compeltely lost as to how to proceed.
I was with you until "click on
Robert Garcia (California politician), which should bring up an edit box for the new article"
Not sure what you mean by this. Click on that where? It doesnt exist. I tried to cut and paste Robert Garcia (California politician) and place it in the URL window after http://en.wikipedia.org/w but that didnt work.
I am most grateful for your indulgance.
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Well, it looks like they're all done (ages ago). If you're still up for it, could you please fly through the articles and fill in the ticks? Many thanks. (If you can't for some reason, please let me know, and I will look after it.) Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 08:28, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I'll have to tell you something. This is my question:
Do you have an account on YouTube? If not, please create one.
Please consider adding your name at: Wikipedia:School and university projects/NNU Class Project/Winter 2012
Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 06:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus. Could you delete the following pages as "G6. Technical deletions" per the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera#Project's stale subpages.
Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 07:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
You've been very helpful in stemming the IP vandalism on the cotton gin article but as soon as the semi-protection expires they always come straight back. There haven't been any non-vandal IP edits to the page as long as I've been editing it. So that we don't have to worry about this for a while, could you please semi-protect it for a longer period - two or three months? Thanks very much. Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 21:48, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
The New Yorker's February 6th issue has an interesting article, "The Flight of the Concord", by Jeremy Denk on playing Ives's music. The imagery is telling even to a non-player like me. The article requires payment, of course, but if the abstract appeals to you, and your local library can't assist, I can send you a photocopy. Bielle ( talk) 17:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear Antandrus,
My name is Jonathan Obar
user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community
HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name
HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar -- Jaobar ( talk) 07:10, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi there,
United Provinces of the Río de la Plata, where there is a fairly new IP editor who is having contributions reverted with little explanation. The contributions seem reasonable to me but I would like a second opinion. Regards, Wee Curry Monster talk 23:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus. I assume that JAL78 ( talk · contribs), who has been trying to change the picture on Piano to a Steinway, is the latest incarnation of Fanoftheworld ( talk · contribs). I've tried to re-open Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fanoftheworld though I'm never sure if I'm doing what I'm supposed to do in these things. I'll try to keep an occasional eye on things, but I'm not around WP much at the moment. -- Deskford ( talk) 04:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi folks. The students are going to become active soon. We could use some input in these areas:
Many thanks. (For those up to speed, pls consider this post just a CC) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 16:13, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello. You have a new message at Wikipedia talk:School and university projects/NNU Class Project/Winter 2012#Topic list - duplicate checking's talk page. 13:49, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
He's back to clogging up DRV. Acroterion (talk) 01:28, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello, you closed my issue on the deletion review down, and additionaly threatend me if i would do soapboxing and whitewashing again you would block me with any IP adress. Btw i did not personal offend anyone on the deletion review section, i was offended. For the case you compromise the correct logical assignment of who offended whom to favorize the author who offended me, and project this behaviour on me instead, i will not take such behaviour easily. Could you please specify what you mean with soapboxing or whitewashing? and cite where exactly i have done this? Besides this thank you for turning my attention to the Administrator Noticeboard.
Whoops i have just seen that you know User Acreterion on personal level. I believe i can expect no professionall correct logical assignment then, and therefor logical conclusion, of who offended whom. I will report this behaviour also. To favor the contester if its about the reflection of a past event in which a person is a victim and another the contester is morally seen wrong and such persons should not expect to be able to rely on these power positioning in all levels of their lives. So much for this. And for my initial intention to improve the article of slavery and the resulting reduction of mine to "He thinks of slavery as a form of migration": Well you can reduce it to this and belittle the issue. But Slavery in the United States has not been filled with the same brutality and condition of the slavery in Africa, and slavery has been part of the African culture. Africans, free or not free, wanted to leave Africa because of this conditions. Before i do the work and post sources for this, you should first think about this logic and stop believing something because its an habitat. Can you as a moralic human beeing say: That the African culture, with polygamie, forced marriages, cannibalism (in form of bitting as an educational method, which is still normal in african tribes today), female genital mutilation, male circumcision as an initial ritual and slavery as part of their culture, that they receive a good historical reflection because they have been enslaved by "white" whilste a culture which did not practice any of this receives the accusation for beeing responsible for what you link with the word slavery? Even with the knowledge that the inter - African Slavery would be an 8 on a brutality scale, while the so called Slavery in the United States would receive a 3 on the brutality scale? This is even worse than Sharia law in which a girl who was the victim of a crime receives punishment just because she reported the man who did the crime to her.
If you are going to add some ticks, now's the time, so the others will know what needs doing. Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 03:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. I used the same site recently as a source for Willelmus de Winchecumbe, but other than that I don't recall using it. Can use of it be blocked by an administrator? I've tried to use other sites and gotten a warning message about it being a disallowed source. Sorry, I don't have access to the online New Grove (Oxford Music Online). Pkeets ( talk) 03:01, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Archive 37: October 2011 through March 2012. Please do not edit this page -- use my regular talk page instead, as I will not see your message here.
Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Classroom coordination/SFSU Class Project and consider adding your name.
The scope of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Classroom coordination/SFSU Class Project is mainly concerned with new articles.
According to the teacher's instructions, this group of students may not create a lot of new articles, but may instead focus more on improving existing articles.
So, there may be little for us to do in the way the Wikipedia:WikiProject China/NNU Class Project required. The students may, however, still call on us for guidance in other areas. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 09:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus-
I have a really dumb off-the-wall question - I'd be happy to accept a wild guess, but please don't put yourself out trying to research it.
Here at Wikipedia, as well as at IMSLP [1], and in any of the recordings that I have access to, the accent acute é is always missing. But if you come down and look at the sheet music at that IMSLP link, it's always spelled Prélude. Nearly every other occasion where a diacritic is called for, it is conscientiously used, both here and elsewhere. Does this make sense to you? Milkunderwood ( talk) 20:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Speaking of combat zones, Antandrus, I don't recall your jumping into this knock-down-drag-out yet. (Nor any of you here.) Anyway, I thought it was pretty funny that SOED listed Etui but not Etude, in either form. How's this for conservatism? Milkunderwood ( talk) 04:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Let me note first that we are almost neighbors. The few facts concerning yourself are remarkably similar to those of a casual acquaintance whom I have not seen for several years, and whose name escapes me. If you have played bridge at the Santa Barbara Bridge Club, then we are acquainted.
I am not happy with your comment. The article is wrong and the fact that it is wrong is not subject to serious debate. I was annoyed when my original correction to the article was deleted. I originally corrected the article at least a year ago and was surprised and disappointed when I reviewed the article a few days ago and found that the article had not been corrected. Hence the subsequent corrections.
My reply to Caleb somebody or another:
Hi.
Lets begin at the beginning.
First, the DATA article contains repeated assertions that the word data 1) originated in Latin; and 2) is the plural form of the Latin word datum. Both of these claims are false.
Second, correction of factual errors in articles by users is officially encouraged by Wikipedia.
Third, characterization of a specific verifiable rebuttal of a false factual claim in a Wikipedia article as vandalism is plainly and simply insulting. You stand in direct violation of the general guidelines which are supposed to govern conduct in these matters.
I expect your apology and restoration of the deleted rebuttal forthwith.
RWM
Cordially, RWM
Hi Antandus, I think it is fine and necessary to add on pro-abortion or pro-choice page that it is also called as "pro-abortion". By atleast this line: It is also called pro-abortion. (or) It is called pro-abortion by the pro-life supporters (or) activists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.137.84.102 ( talk • contribs)
changed the .35 to .54 on the IP and continued the vandalism-- Львівське ( говорити) 04:56, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Antandrus, I am coming to you now simply requesting advice, because in my experience you have always responded to queries (which in itself not every editor has done), but more importantly, with considered thoughtfulness. (How's that for buttering you up? :-) - but it's true.)
My question here concerns the existing article Arthur Rubinstein discography, with which I have expressed discontent both there in two separate sections on its talk page, and on my own User:Milkunderwood page. You will find that I and User:THD3, who has been the primary contributor to this article, disagree on its relative merits, but I believe our disagreements have been and remain friendly, and have not devolved to being a dispute - this is not the issue. You might note, in looking at the history of that article, that the format of the existing discographic table had originally been set up by a different editor, who appears to have since abandoned it. [Edit: There's also this brief discussion: User talk:THD3#Arthur Rubinstein discography, again.
Being discontented with that table's layout, I decided to attempt a different format for a Rubinstein discography in my sandbox, where I have now set up only a number of sample entries, followed by an explanation of my rationale for its organization.
If you would care to look at any of these pages, my first and most basic question is whether in your judgment my sandbox attempt is even worth pursuing, given that continuing with it would necessarily involve untold hours of work. If you believe it is not, I can happily abandon it forthwith.
Or you may have other suggestions, such as how my own effort might be improved; or how, if it is continued, it might be integrated with the present table; or perhaps be eventually posted either as a separate table within the existing article, or as its own separate article.
Then several specific issues have been raised, or at least thought of, for instance:
So if you might care to take the time to investigate any of this, I put myself in your hands. As always, I very much appreciate your efforts. Milkunderwood ( talk) 19:19, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the encouragement. Yes, I've already posted at the article's talkpage. Assuming that I would proceed and invest the time, I don't suppose you might have any thoughts on how it could be posted, either together with THD3's table somehow, or as a separate article? He is very understandably loath to see his own hard work go away. I think this issue needs to be settled first, whether or not mine may be worthwhile continuing. This is actually the biggest hangup for me, because I'm just not familiar with Wikipedia's policies and styles on a question like this. I don't see how the two tables can be incorporated into one, and putting them separately together in a single article would be huge. Or if they were separate articles, how might they be differentiated?
Actually, if you (or any page-watcher) have suggestions to make on this matter, Talk:Arthur Rubinstein discography#Suggested alternative table layout might be a more logical place to post them. Milkunderwood ( talk) 23:40, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
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I didn't bother looking to far into your undo revision on the warmblooded wiki, I'm assuming you're also trying to fix it, I'm just going to let it be because I know there is a way to revert all those bad edits at once. Thanks if your helping clean it up. If you aren't doing that, well.. thanks for being funny and stuff, that was pretty funny actually, I was going to encourage the act but cut it out regardless... the chaos seems to be a sort of free e-tron pool... sort of.. anyway peace to you
Thanks for fixing that vandalism on the cotton gin page. It's been getting a lot of vandalism lately - do you think it might be possible to have it semi-protected or something? Thanks, Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 02:27, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Whilst I have no objections to your edit, I really didn't think the previous text was that bad. However, the IP's version changed meanding whilst yours didn't. What exactly was your rationale in editing it, the previous comment included a quote, was that it? Wee Curry Monster talk 19:10, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello, you recently deleted William Adams (judge), under the grounds that it was a "article about a living person in a negative tone" and generally unsourced. To begin, this was a page about a living person, who just so happened to be a judge at the time the article was written, (which, by the way, was under a rapid transformation, and was in no way negative, but rather informative). Nowhere in the article did I use undermining words such as "terrible" or "blatant" which may have emphasis on a "negative" page. Please direct me to where in the article you believe I was using undermining language, or a tone of speech that was negative rather than informative. Additionally, you state that the sources were incomplete and generally unverifiable; this is a current event , and sources change all the time. Look at this source, from Gawker, a trusted and official web news provider: http://gawker.com/5855478/reddit-video-apparently-shows-texas-family-judge-beating-disabled-daughter
As news continues to break out about this tender subject, I made the page and placed the "current event" tag on there to make sure that it would not be put up for speedy deletion. Please allow me to recreate this page with updated (and verifiable) sources. Thank you. Touch Of Light ( talk) 05:33, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
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For you observations on Wikipedia behaviour. Most of them are totally true, even if we hate to admit it. Happy editing! pluma Ø 21:29, 6 November 2011 (UTC) |
Antandrus, I wonder if you've chanced to look at my User:Milkunderwood/sandbox Hovhaness, and whether you might have any comments or suggestions? If so, please post there - thanks. That is a very public project, not just for Jerome and me. Milkunderwood ( talk) 06:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to trouble you but perhaps you could take a look at Richard Wagner and its talk page. User:Major Torp is causing some turmoil here, partly fuelled by rather miscellaneous gleanings from Google Books and Project Gutenberg, and in both small and large-scale edits is behaving in a manner which might not unreasonably be construed by some as provocative. With thanks, --Smerus 10:18, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Could you be kind and help with a balancing act so the cornered situation can be resolved in the Wagner discussion page .Thank you User:Major Torp ( talk) 13:48, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Are you familiar with Francis W. Wilson or his works? It seems he designed much of Montecito and a lot of the public buildings in Santa Barbara. I found him tangentially (he designed the Grand Canyon Depot) and found he had no article. Acroterion (talk) 16:02, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
If there was ever a place to build a mansion once you'd made your fortune in railroads, copper mining, banks or newspapers, Santa Barbara (or Montecito) was it at the beginning of the 20th century. Looks like the weather's going to be be uncharacteristically gray for this time of the year. I think several people had a hand in the Music Academy. Acroterion (talk) 04:02, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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I'm afraid your IP friend is back and has picked up where he left off at Ian Gow. He seems unable to edit collaboratively and is still resorting to the same WP:PA as he did before. And he won't use the talk page. He's heading for another lengthy block. Wee Curry Monster talk 15:35, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your attention to this. Like you, I assume edits by this IP editor are in good faith, but it would appear not well sourced. I have reviewed some of the edits at List of Medieval composers and see you've looked at some of the Renaissance ones. I'll look back later to see if all is well. (RT) ( talk) 02:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
I've mentioned your name here. What an unpleasant thread. Bishonen | talk 00:00, 23 November 2011 (UTC).
I see that you've been trying to engage with User:24.209.139.161. I've just rolled back a series of edits by this person...... Best. -- Guillaume Tell 22:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your "Observations on Wikipedia Behavior."
It's not only brilliant, but inspirational.
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just because an article is edited by an IP number doesnt make it Vandalism. I actually removed Vandalism and added tons of new and updated content to my High School's page. Be considerate and thoughtful. Prospective students and families will be looking at that page. Do you think they want to see the slogan is "Our Only (student's name)" instead of "Our Only Hope", or that the current student body is 7/8ths of the size listed here? how about that tuition has increased over $500 since the last update? Use your domepiece.. Bro. ( IKnowEverythingAboutAnything ( talk) 03:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC))
I was re adding about a half an hours worth of work that Markvs88 reverted and it refreshed while I was updating. But thank you, would have taken a few days to re add everything had someone truly deleted the entire article.
Sorry to bother you, but could you please semi-protect the cotton gin article again, even if temporarily? As soon as the first protection expired, the IP vandals came back in force - the number of recent IP vandalism edits far outnumber useful edits. Thanks Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 16:07, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Antandrus. If you're around could you take a look at this? An editor made cut and paste moves from La favorite and Talk:La favorite to La Favorite and Talk:La Favorite with no discussion, after the pages had been at their original location for years, claiming that this is the title on Italian Wikipedia as the sole justification in the edit summary. This was obviously not an uncontroversial move even if it had been done properly. I've requested an admin to move them back over the redirects to La favorite and Talk:La favorite so that a requested move discussion take place without further complicating the histories of the talk pages. The request is here at the Cut and paste move repair holding pen, but I'm not sure if that was the right place to ask.
I couldn't discuss this with the editor who made the cut and paste move, User:Dodecalog, as they have (rather bizarrely) redirected their own talk page to their user page. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 19:27, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
For expanding and rescuing articles on Polish medieval composers ( Sebastian z Felsztyna, Mikołaj z Chrzanowa). Sebastian is now DYK eligible, you may want to nominate it for front page exposure at T:TDYK :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:00, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to have collided with you at Jack's talk page. I hope you didn't have to retype it all. I have learned the hard way to "copy" before pushing "Save".
I am making up my list of favourite Christmas music for 2011. (It changes.) What performances have you to recommend? Bielle ( talk) 21:01, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I noticed this - I love the sound of that instrument, how did you get into it? Seems it must be much more difficult to play than the ondes Martenot - but perhaps it's really no more difficult than the cello? I find Waxman's Bride of Frankenstein - particularly the theremin episodes - some of the most evocative of all movie music (a pity about the film). Best wishes, as always, RobertG ♬ talk 09:41, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Interesting thread! I've thought about building one from a kit, but haven't quite worked up the initiative to do it. Is Dr. Samuel Hoffman well regarded among Theremin cognoscenti? I only know of him from his pop-related work. Short Brigade Harvester Boris ( talk) 03:48, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
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Seasons greetings, you may remember we conversed some time ago about that IP editor and how IP editors were being "bitten". I've just oberved it isn't just IP editors but also newbie editors until they have something on their user page. Editors who don't spend time decorating their user pages with info boxes but quietly get on with editing content seem to be treated in the same way. I thought you may find the observation of interest, particularly bearing in mind the essay you wrote about wikipedia behaviour. Wee Curry Monster talk 19:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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Anyhow, Merry Christmas! -- Folantin ( talk) 12:13, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, I saw your comments on the Jion de Jordan deletion page re this user. Looking at a couple of places where he's contributed, or tried to contribute, he looks like a high school student.
He's tried to add himself (or someone with a remarkably similar name) to List of 21st-century classical composers, and to the births of 1998, and to disambiguation pages listing major musical compositions. All of these edits were undone by other users.
From this and from your experience, he doesn't seem to be following the conventions of WP. You as an admin will know better than I what can be done about him - but at his age (if truly born in 1998) it seems odd that he has scholarship to the extent that he's adding obscure composers. Perhaps he should either be banned, or given an article to write to channel his energies correctly! asnac ( talk) 12:49, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus & Asnac,
This is Cmach7's mother. I have just come into this by just happening to check my son's email. He is in fact 13 years old and extrememly bright. He is high functioning autistic and extremely into composer's, and composing his own classical music as well, and quite good at it. So he does think in his mind that he will be a future famous composer. He has a amazing memory, especially for dates, but also sometimes makes up his own, and then believes them to be true.
You are correct in that he has done all of this in good faith, but does not understand what Wikipedia is suppose to be used for. I'm amazed that he figured out how to get out there and edit information on his own out on Wikipedia in the first place.
I did just go over everything you all wrote above with him and told him that he is not to edit anything else on Wikipedia anymore until I review it and we go over together how to actual cite any references on where he has found his information to post. He has agreed.
I will have to look at this all more on how to do all this correctly, because he does like doing this and I don't know that much about it, but he just needs to be shown how to do it correctly, and not the way he was doing it. He now knows it needs to be factual and credible information that he needs to cite. I don't think he understands how to cite a reference yet, until I show him.
Thank you and have a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! :o)
FWIW, I can't find anything about Jion (which doesn't look much like a Provençal name to me) in JSTOR or New Grove -- it's possible though that it's a variant spelling of another troubadour, but I can't think of who. I looked up Conradus de Pistoria in other sources. Phrases such as "Two of his compositions survive, both three-voice ballades." seemed suspicious for a 13-year-old and possibly lifted from elsewhere, but I can't find it anywhere, so my hunch is that he has absorbed the style of writing of music dictionaries and is writing wonderfully fluent prose. But Jion needs to remain gone unless there's a citation. (any admins have the old text? I might look over it to see if there's anything suspicious). merry christmas. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 06:25, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Jion de Jordan (1142/1145-1200) was a troubadour from Limousin. His brother was Amanieu de Jordan, his sister was Gormonsa and was close friends with Raimbaut d'Aurenga and Guilhem de Saint-Leidier. 10 of his works survive including 8 cansos and 2 sirventes. But only one of them survive with a melody which is En Parabasia. One of his sirventes he written with Raimbaut d'Aurenga and Arnaut Daniel.
Works
I doubt I could imitate medieval Occitan that well. That's Chattertonesque. Astonishing. Antandrus (talk) 14:29, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
"And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,
I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."
Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)
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You too, Ant. Here's a typical bishounen — a pretty boy not much like me, who am neither pretty nor boy — daintily helping himself from your citrus orchard. So you too associate oranges with Christmas? If I had a penny for every time my mother has told me that oranges were unknown in her childhood, back in the early eighteenth century, except for one memorable Christmas when she was given one ("Or, well, part of one. I had to share it with my sisters"), then I'd be… well, not really rich, I suppose. Just comfortably off. Bishonen | talk 00:25, 25 December 2011 (UTC).
...and a very Happy New Year, Antandrus! Thanks so much for all your help. All the best, Voceditenore ( talk) 10:09, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
You absolutely must stop engaging another editor by reverting and edit warring. It doesn't matter who is right- but you've been around long enough that I assume you know edit warring takes two. tedder ( talk) 06:05, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello. The agenda I was positioning myself against, so many moons ago, was founded upon an absurd sustained abuse of policy, that policy being "Wikipedia is not censored". What I believe my post pointed out fairly clearly was that to characterise said debate as being an issue of censorship is utterly ridiculous. The way in which it was being so characterized was and is a great deal more circumlocutive and ultimately useless than anything I've contributed, being that it essentially obliterated the entire debate in order to replace it with an easily molested strawman. Every sentence but one in my original post on the talk page makes an obvious point with a clear purpose entirely relevant to both Wikipedia policy and the established norms in Wikipedians' enforcement of that policy, and as I said in the reply on Acterion's talk page, which is not circumlocutive filibustering no matter how much you may want to pretend it is: my post was a very obvious attempt at jettisoning the silliest part of a debate in order to move forward. Not unusual in the slightest. To finish, a) diplomatically aimed invective is generally more productive than defiantly tenuous stonewalling, and b) there's a very fine balance between assuming good faith and assuming the lack of an assumption of good faith. Happy new year, -- Jemimallah ( talk) 17:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus--
At Talk:Piano Sonata No. 8 (Beethoven)#Requested move both User:DavidRF and User:Kleinzach have requested a "speedy close" to this section, for reasons discussed there: parallel move requests at a number of separate pages. As an administrator, would you mind taking a look at this and see what you think? Thanks. Milkunderwood ( talk) 15:56, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello - thanks for dealing with this the way you saw fit. I'd ask, as you suggested, that we close the discussion at Talk:Moonlight Sonata and start over. I'm sorry if I muddied things up. As I wrote on Talk:Piano Sonata No. 8 (Beethoven)#Requested move, people were using the fact that "Moonlight Sonata" was the only one of Beethoven's sonatas to be titled by its nickname on WP as a reason to change that title. One editor in particular was asking rhetorically if supporting "Moonlight" meant that people would support changing other ones. So I thought I'd find out, apparently not in the right manner. At this point, I think a new, centralized discussion would be the best way forward. I'm also posting this on the Moonlight page. Thanks. Dohn joe ( talk) 18:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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After User:Aad351's last outrageous edit, I took her to WP:AIV. User:7 blocked her for 12 hours. Frankly, I was very surprised at the shortness of the block, considering her behavior. I don't know whether I should raise the issue with 7 or just let it go. The only possible rationale I can think of for such a short block is 7 felt Aad351 should be permitted to stick around to contribute to the AfD discussion or to improve the article, but given her behavior, that's awfully tough to justify.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 02:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
5 people, out of over 500 million that use Wikipedia, including you attacked him and his page because he is a U.S. Celebrity and U.S. Combat Veteran, you and they were petty and every-time I tried to make corrections, they deleted my corrections to cause my page to be deleted.
Herzog was a key and central figure in some of the biggest news stories of 2009, 2010, 2011, Mel Gibson, Herman Cain and many other National and International News Stories.
You and they have violated Wikipedia rules and will be banned from Wikipedia soon.
I have contacted Kris Herzog, his Attorney/s called me, researched this issue and has made an appeal to the corporate Headquarters of Wikipedia http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Contact_us, as Kris Herzog's clients have donated several million dollars to Wikipedia.
Kris Herzog's Attorney has asked Wikipedia to BAN YOU and those that attacked his page.
I hope you and those other idiots enjoy being BANNED from Wikipedia for attacking his page. NO ONE ever countered my argument that Kris Herzog is MORE Noteworthy than THOUSANDS of others that currently have Wikipedia pages.
You and the others attacked his page because he is man American Celebrity and United States Combat Veteran.
I, he and his people all feel a great injustice has been done by you and those others, we have all agreed to make it our mission in life to get you all banned from Wikipedia, to make sure you can not abuse any others, as you did us.
Your Power and theirs is about to be taken away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aad351 ( talk • contribs) 12:35, 16 January 2012
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Hi, do you think you could look into semi-protecting Mohenjo-daro for a month or so? It gets a disproportionate amount of IP vandalism for such a niche topic. Thanks - Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 02:33, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Once again I call upon you (sorry for the inconvenience :p) - the Centenarian [page has received a sudden flood of IP vandals, who are turning it into an edit war zone. Could you please semi-protect, maybe for just a month? Thanks for your time. Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 19:49, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback. I apologize, but I still do not understand what to do. You wrote:
"Just use the "move page" link, or alternatively just copy and paste from the edit box into a redlink like the one below"
However, I dont see any "move page" link, nor a redline below. I feel compeltely lost as to how to proceed.
I was with you until "click on
Robert Garcia (California politician), which should bring up an edit box for the new article"
Not sure what you mean by this. Click on that where? It doesnt exist. I tried to cut and paste Robert Garcia (California politician) and place it in the URL window after http://en.wikipedia.org/w but that didnt work.
I am most grateful for your indulgance.
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Well, it looks like they're all done (ages ago). If you're still up for it, could you please fly through the articles and fill in the ticks? Many thanks. (If you can't for some reason, please let me know, and I will look after it.) Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 08:28, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I'll have to tell you something. This is my question:
Do you have an account on YouTube? If not, please create one.
Please consider adding your name at: Wikipedia:School and university projects/NNU Class Project/Winter 2012
Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 06:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus. Could you delete the following pages as "G6. Technical deletions" per the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera#Project's stale subpages.
Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 07:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
You've been very helpful in stemming the IP vandalism on the cotton gin article but as soon as the semi-protection expires they always come straight back. There haven't been any non-vandal IP edits to the page as long as I've been editing it. So that we don't have to worry about this for a while, could you please semi-protect it for a longer period - two or three months? Thanks very much. Michaelmas1957 ( talk) 21:48, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
The New Yorker's February 6th issue has an interesting article, "The Flight of the Concord", by Jeremy Denk on playing Ives's music. The imagery is telling even to a non-player like me. The article requires payment, of course, but if the abstract appeals to you, and your local library can't assist, I can send you a photocopy. Bielle ( talk) 17:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear Antandrus,
My name is Jonathan Obar
user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community
HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name
HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar -- Jaobar ( talk) 07:10, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi there,
United Provinces of the Río de la Plata, where there is a fairly new IP editor who is having contributions reverted with little explanation. The contributions seem reasonable to me but I would like a second opinion. Regards, Wee Curry Monster talk 23:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Antandrus. I assume that JAL78 ( talk · contribs), who has been trying to change the picture on Piano to a Steinway, is the latest incarnation of Fanoftheworld ( talk · contribs). I've tried to re-open Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fanoftheworld though I'm never sure if I'm doing what I'm supposed to do in these things. I'll try to keep an occasional eye on things, but I'm not around WP much at the moment. -- Deskford ( talk) 04:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi folks. The students are going to become active soon. We could use some input in these areas:
Many thanks. (For those up to speed, pls consider this post just a CC) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 16:13, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello. You have a new message at Wikipedia talk:School and university projects/NNU Class Project/Winter 2012#Topic list - duplicate checking's talk page. 13:49, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
He's back to clogging up DRV. Acroterion (talk) 01:28, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello, you closed my issue on the deletion review down, and additionaly threatend me if i would do soapboxing and whitewashing again you would block me with any IP adress. Btw i did not personal offend anyone on the deletion review section, i was offended. For the case you compromise the correct logical assignment of who offended whom to favorize the author who offended me, and project this behaviour on me instead, i will not take such behaviour easily. Could you please specify what you mean with soapboxing or whitewashing? and cite where exactly i have done this? Besides this thank you for turning my attention to the Administrator Noticeboard.
Whoops i have just seen that you know User Acreterion on personal level. I believe i can expect no professionall correct logical assignment then, and therefor logical conclusion, of who offended whom. I will report this behaviour also. To favor the contester if its about the reflection of a past event in which a person is a victim and another the contester is morally seen wrong and such persons should not expect to be able to rely on these power positioning in all levels of their lives. So much for this. And for my initial intention to improve the article of slavery and the resulting reduction of mine to "He thinks of slavery as a form of migration": Well you can reduce it to this and belittle the issue. But Slavery in the United States has not been filled with the same brutality and condition of the slavery in Africa, and slavery has been part of the African culture. Africans, free or not free, wanted to leave Africa because of this conditions. Before i do the work and post sources for this, you should first think about this logic and stop believing something because its an habitat. Can you as a moralic human beeing say: That the African culture, with polygamie, forced marriages, cannibalism (in form of bitting as an educational method, which is still normal in african tribes today), female genital mutilation, male circumcision as an initial ritual and slavery as part of their culture, that they receive a good historical reflection because they have been enslaved by "white" whilste a culture which did not practice any of this receives the accusation for beeing responsible for what you link with the word slavery? Even with the knowledge that the inter - African Slavery would be an 8 on a brutality scale, while the so called Slavery in the United States would receive a 3 on the brutality scale? This is even worse than Sharia law in which a girl who was the victim of a crime receives punishment just because she reported the man who did the crime to her.
If you are going to add some ticks, now's the time, so the others will know what needs doing. Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 03:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. I used the same site recently as a source for Willelmus de Winchecumbe, but other than that I don't recall using it. Can use of it be blocked by an administrator? I've tried to use other sites and gotten a warning message about it being a disallowed source. Sorry, I don't have access to the online New Grove (Oxford Music Online). Pkeets ( talk) 03:01, 2 March 2012 (UTC)