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What isn't OR in this 100Kb article is plagiarised from the subject's books. Now although he died in 1951, his books have been re-translated recently, eg this one [1] which has been copied to use in the article. As a translation, isn't it a fresh copyright? If it is, I think the best thing is just to stub it, it's just an OR textbook right now on his works anyway. I don't think anyone can go through the article just dealing with the copyvio stuff if I'm right about it still being in copyright. Dougweller ( talk) 19:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl/Archive 23 I am राम प्रसाद जोशी from Nepal. My old acount is blocked at http://ne.wikipedia.org so that I open a new acount. My new user name is User:राम प्रसाद जोशी. I want make my old user page ( User:Rameshti) and old talk page ( User talk:Rameshti) to new user page ( User:राम प्रसाद जोशी) but I can not move this page. please help me. -- राम प्रसाद जोशी ( talk) 04:30, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I've rewrote again, its allot shorter but avoids paraphrasing this time. If you have any free time, please have a quick look at it. Thanks, once again. And have a nice holiday :) Acather96 ( talk) 19:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Enjoy your vaka ! I rewrote the two sections you flagged on the John Andrew Rea piece, and dropped citations in for the website and the Port of Takoma newsletter. Can you take a look when you return? Thanks! -- Cmagha ( talk) 00:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC) Cmagha.
You are receiving this note because of your participation in WT:Revision deletion#Community consultation, which is referred to in Wikipedia:VPR#Proposal to turn on revision deletion immediately (despite some lingering concerns). – xeno talk 14:15, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Offline potential copyvio discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parten's classic study of play. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi
Another question- I am not sure about this one - is List of former chairmen of Cambridge University Conservative Association a copy vio of [3] - I think not but wanted to check.
Codf1977 ( talk) 18:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
My name is David McElroy and I work with Stephen Auerbach, a filmmaker here in Los Angeles. I created his page and added a bio, which he gave me (perhaps from his own webpage). However, I was told you took it down. Why is that? I even added a note explaining that we have permission to use his bio, seeing how he's the one that created it. Can you please un-delete it and then email me back at superdavit@hotmail.com
Thanks for your help.
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Also for you. ^_^ Silver seren C 04:35, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I have nominated CP Gurnani, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CP Gurnani. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. UtherSRG (talk) 12:35, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
[4] Not sure how good it is, though. MER-C 13:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if you could please provide me with some direction on how to restore a large amount of content and images that were deleted in 2009 in the article about the College of Mount St. Joseph. I see now that some of the images I uploaded were missing copyright tags and that permissions needed to be specified for content that was similar to copy found on various subpages of www.msj.edu. Now that I am aware of this, I will be happy to take these steps and any others that would allow the deleted material to be restored in accordance with Wikipedia's policies. Could you please let me know how to proceed from here? Thanks! Cliffwjenkins ( talk) 13:21, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
At least WP:CP isn't backed up for the whole two weeks you were gone, only half of it. VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:49, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Welcome back! :) Theleftorium (talk) 20:06, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
WB. Sorry I've been a poor steward in your absence, I just returned to editing today. Flight delays suck. MLauba ( Talk) 21:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
So now that you've been welcomed back, I figure I'll co-opt your talk page. I've proposed Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VWBot and would appreciate any feedback you or your legion of talk-page watchers have at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Copyright Cleanup#Another bot for the project?. Cheers. VernoWhitney ( talk) 22:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
My page This_Is_How_You_Play was recently marked for speedy deletion. The wikipedia help page indicated that you were one of the users that could "userfy" my page. I'm a noob on wikipedia and I probably did something really wrong, but I spent a few hours creating the page so I wouldn't want it to go to waste. Could you please "userfy" this page so that I can work on it until it's ready to prime time? Thank you Christorea ( talk) 00:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, the title says it all. Since I'm still new to Wikipedia, even though I've been contributing (not as much, since I'm a RC Patroller, a Tagger, and even a WikiGnome), I've still got things to learn about (I'll never know it all, so as everyone, though :P), I've still got some problems identifying some issues. Well, the template left in that User talk is not actually right, since it was a PROD, not an AfD, but Twinkle didn't have a warning for that, so I used up the one it was best suited to this problem. I admit it, I'm (sometimes) lazy to read the whole help article, assuming that I claim to understand the concept of the article, I let slip some stuff I was unaware of. I'm concerned about the future of this article, what will we do about it? Oh, and welcome back! FredZ ( talk) 13:32, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Could you take a look at the permission for Pietro Porcinai and see if it's sufficient? It should be at Ticket:2007032510012681. I cave easily to needy messages on my talk page. VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:22, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Wrong ticket number. Ticket:2007032710020669 covers the biography on that site. It also covers "la lista dei lavori", which may be his list of works, but could also be his publications. Contact a native speaker for that. It does not cover any photos from the site. I'm following up on that at Commons. Cheers.-- Chaser ( talk) 00:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello... sorry it took a while to answer your post. Unfortunately, there have been problems with the Procon site in the past year or so. I found a significant amount of spammed ELs and "references" (i.e. links posted as 2nd or 3rd references after existing in-line references, or as replacements for existing valid cites), as well as a number of single-purpose and low-activity accounts that were doing this. At the same time, I learned that Procon had actually sponsored a contest amongst its members to spur the creation of an article about the site, complete with a cash prize. Discussions about this problem led to the conclusion that, while the site was useful as a starting point, it should not be used as a reference source itself. Documents found there should be traced back to their original publisher. Hope this helps; I do realize that the regular Wikipedians who have placed these links did so in good faith, and sometimes the edit summary doesn't entirely convey that. Cheers. -- Ckatz chat spy 15:55, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
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For cleaning up more copyright problems in a single day than I have in the past week. VernoWhitney ( talk) 21:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC) |
Oh, and I rewrote the close paraphrase that I saw in Doug Gray, so the only thing I left on the 20th is possible OTRS permission for restoring some content to Li Yi (sociologist). VernoWhitney ( talk) 21:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm hoping Ckatz, who's involved with this article, can help, but on the article talk page I've noted some copyvio. I don't have time, or at least shouldn't, to do much on it. It's a very complex article and there may be quite a bit more. Dougweller ( talk) 20:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
There has been a lot of information added to Serial Killer which I'm sorry to say looks like cut/paste entries. I'm not sure how to check to see if that is the case so here I am. I removed a lot of the new edits for lack of sources, undo weight and POV type comments. Would you mind taking a peek? Sections like 'Fantasy' just seem wrong. You can see the new edit is the history. There are like three or four new editors adding large chunks to the article. It shouldn't be hard to see which ones. I swear though that the new stuff looks like it was taken from somewhere else verbatim or at least close to verbatim. I may be wrong with this but the way the new items are written it really looks like a cut and paste addition. I would really appreciate it if you have time to take a look at the article and if I am right, remove the sections that shouldn't be there. If I'm wrong, I'll be more than happy to apologize for wasting your time. Thanks in advance, -- CrohnieGal Talk 18:23, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Making notes. I will replace this with my conclusions, but if you care, you can follow my progress here. :) I'm up to
[5], and there are certainly red flags. So far, I have not found any problems, though, up to and including this edit. I've done a mechanical scan and a spot check, and I'm currently checking a few of the sources directly (such as footnote 19. See
[6]. Note, that this footnote may not support that text, but I'm not reviewing closely for this, and the contributor does not identify the specific edition, so the page number may be out of whack. However, from a copyright standpoint, there's no problem here, as I failed to find even a single match in that book for "child's development.") --
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Okay, Moonriddengirl. Thanks a lot. I will go ahead and take care of that one sentence. Flyer22 ( talk) 19:03, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, those tools can be handy for me to keep around so I bookmarked them. :) I know it's a lot of tedious work, that's why I always hesitate to ask you for help on something like this until I'm pretty sure there is a big problem going on. This time it wasn't as big as I thought but still you did good getting rid of that which was a problem. Thanks again, and I hope the jet lag is easing now. -- CrohnieGal Talk 10:14, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl,
I notice you get involved in copyright questions. I've noticed a table on Wikipedia that is copied verbatim from this this page, though somewhat re-formatted. I've removed the table, but it has been restored, on the grounds that the material on the webpage itself comes from multiple sources. There's a discussion about it here, if you care to weigh in. Jayjg (talk) 00:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Got two more trips assigned to me, this week and next. I won't be around, sorry. :( MLauba ( Talk) 07:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
A new account just reverted my reversion on CP Gurnani from your original version to the one that was copied from the home website. The account's edit summary said that they are in the process of changing the website's home page, so that the information in the article will no longer be a copy. Does this actually change the copyrighted status of the article if they change where it was copied from? Wouldn't it be easier for them to just fill out a ticket to allow the material on Wikipedia? Silver seren C 20:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I feel as though I am being bullied out of Wikipedia when all I do for the most part is qualitatively improve articles by adding citations. I have a group of malign editors that have formed a cohort against me. They have searched really hard to find a few matters of dispute out of my 20,000 or more edits that I have made to this Project. I would appreciate some of your time.
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my dear wikipedian-collegiates wonder why I rarely enter into conversation with such bland stupidity, all of them, those MOANING, have justly had their egos branded by the Hummingbird, this is true.
Well, I feel it is important to open up the discussion with people who are impartial. I have 20 people for the most part who keep on banding together against me, that isn't consensus that is partisan. B9 hummingbird hovering ( talk • contribs) 12:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Note: I already asked this of MLauba, but he had to run away before he followed up on it, so now I turn to you. I was wondering if you could take a look at Talk:Public domain#Copyright infringement dispute (and if you enjoy drama, the related Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive615#Copyright violations in copyright-related articles) and see if LakeT ( talk · contribs)'s latest additions to Public domain and Orphan works are close paraphrases or not.
As a less serious question, have admins always been reluctant to get involved in copyright issues, or did others just retire and leave you holding the slack? VernoWhitney ( talk) 00:48, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Just stopping by to say "hi". I know you're busy but I just wanted to let you know I am still grateful for all your kindness and help. The process isn't over yet so I'll wait and see if anything else pops up as you advised me it would take at least several months. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 22:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello,
You took down an article I put up citing the biographies of living persons rule. I'm confident that adhered to the policy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPF#People_who_are_relatively_unknown Please can you refer to the policy when discussing this kind of unilateral action before acting. You are not the boss of what goes in or out, you can raise concerns and remove things that violate a policy that you can cite, but you are not judge and jury.
I hope that helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macdaddy ( talk • contribs) 08:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi.
Could you have a look at US Arab Chamber of Commerce. Is there an OTRS ticket pending for this one? It seems related to Arab Chamber of Commerce. Regards. -- Whpq ( talk) 11:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I'd like your opinion on a copyright matter. I happened on the article Broken Hill Ore Deposit and found that the text of the "Geology" and "Genesis" sections in it are verbatim matches for sections of this professional geologist's report (pages 5–7). However, the report is dated 3 October 2007, and our article was created on 15 August 2007, with the content in question present, which would seem to preclude any copyright violation on our part. Nevertheless, I find it difficult to believe that the geologist would have lifted major parts of the report from WP without acknowledgment. The editor who created the article has also created and expanded a number of other geology-related articles—never, as far as I can see, including any sources at all for his information. He claims, on his user page and in talk-page comments, to be an Australian geologist, so I suppose it's possible that he wrote both the WP article and the professional report; but his user name gives no clue to any connection. I'd bring the matter up on his talk page, but he hasn't been active since April 2009, except for two isolated edits last June and July. Perhaps I'm being oversuspicious; what would you do in such a case? Deor ( talk) 20:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, we've talked in the past and unfortunatelly I took the impression that you're an expert in copyright issues, so that here I am again :-)
My question is related to this article: Inela Nogić. This Bosniak girl was the person that won the beauty contest in the besieged Sarajevo in 1993, and was the inspiration of U2's Miss Sarajevo. It can be argued that obtaining a free picture of her is somehow feasible. Do you think that such an argumentation would override a fair-use rationale for this image: here?
Best regards and many thanks in advance -- Ecemaml ( talk) 21:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl. Hope you enjoyed your holiday and had a good break. Back in the wikiworld I'm afraid I may have more for you again...
The article New Forest Coastal Heritage Project would appear to be almost a direct copy of this page on the NPA's website. I'm also fairly unsure about its notability and wonder if it might just be better off deleted. The creator of the article is JamesBrownNFNPA ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who has also edited the article New Forest. Specifically he's been working on the New Forest Coast section, his first edits coming only 5 minutes after an IP created the whole section. When added, the section appears to have been a fairly unedited copy of the parent NPA page here, but the current version of the article has changed it (but not a lot). These are the only articles the editor has edited and the latter section of his name (NFNPA) reads to me like New Forest National Park Authority (the runners of the website), and a James Brown appears in the news pages of the coastal section.....
BTW, the last incident I mentioned to you has progressed to here while you were on holiday. Welcome back! Ranger Steve ( talk) 11:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, please check Rewrite on Talk - 12.7.202.2 ( talk) 16:10, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I have recently manually tagged an article for possible copyright concerns. The tag is being repeatedly removed with potentially disparaging remarks left behind. Can you look at this article and help me determine if it is appropriate to tag the article as I have. The article is Millennium Prize Problems and I posted the web address being plagiarized. The P versus NP section and the The Hodge conjecture section are both also copied from this site and I suspect perhaps more. Thank you in advance for any attention you give this matter. My76Strat ( talk) 22:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Moonriddengirl, it would be most helpful if you can give me an idea of what portion(s) of the National Foundation for Credit Counseling page that you find violate the copyright. I am most surprised by your conclusion, since I have authored and edits dozens of Wiki pages over a few years, and yours is the first such notice. I really could care less if the NFCC page is updated, deleted or whatever -- it does however provide valuable and professional support to needy people -- but it would be helpful to learn what evidence if any you have to back up your copyright violation claim. Thank you. Mykjoseph Myk60640 ( talk) 00:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Each year, NFCC members assist 4 million consumers, helping many to reduce their debt and better control their finances.
Each year, NFCC Members assist 4 million consumers, helping many to drive down their debt and take control of their finances.
The National Foundation for Credit Counseling (NFCC) is a nonprofit organization that promotes the national agenda for financially responsible behavior and builds capacity for its Members to deliver the highest quality financial education and counseling services. Established in 1951, the NFCC is the nation's largest and longest serving national nonprofit credit counseling network, with more than 100 Member agencies and nearly 850 offices in communities throughout the country.
Founded in 1951, the National Foundation for Credit Counseling (NFCC), Inc., promotes the national agenda for financially responsible behavior and builds capacity for its Members to deliver the highest quality financial education and counseling services. The NFCC is the nations largest and longest serving national nonprofit credit counseling network, with more than 100 Member agencies and nearly 850 offices in communities throughout the country.
So I ran across the Tony Taggart article and noticed that it's still blanked from 15 April and listed as having incomplete permission under Ticket:2010041610020574. Any chance you could see what can/should be done with the article? VernoWhitney ( talk) 23:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi MrG. How are you? :) I'm currently looking at the William & Mary Scandal of 1951 article from Jrcla2's CCI and I think the following paragraph paraphrases the source too closely. Do you agree? Theleftorium (talk) 11:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
The William & Mary Board of Visitors officially stated in 1946 that it expected the school "to win more contests than we lose",[1][2] even though the process to become an athletic power had started years before. As a consequence, Rube McCray, the head football coach from 1944–1950, was given a substantial pay raise and earned more than any professor at the college in an effort to produce consistently winning teams. As a side effect of this decision, a double standard had been created for athletes entering William & Mary with minimal academic qualifications but who would receive nearly all of the college's scholastic financial aid.[1] Not only were the academic standards very low in order to bring in the best athletes, but McCray, who also jointly served as the school's athletic director and head of the physical education department, began to alter players' high school transcripts and their current college grades.[1][2]
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I'd like to do a BFish translation of an article on the Polish WP to (possibly) resolve a current article naming dispute. The translated article would of course need some work, so it'd go in my userspace first, but it would essentially be based on BF. The question's surely been addressed before, but could you point me to any relevant WP links? No hurry. Sincerely, Novickas ( talk) 21:47, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi MRG. Rather than check other sources for possible copyvio, it was easier just to re-write it (given the creator's past record).;-). All done now. See Talk:Ellen Faull/Temp. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 15:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Moonriddengirl. I've done a fair bit of work, on and off, on the Arthur Sarkissian (artist) article since it was created last August, as have several other editors. Since there are no other pages about anyone called Arthur Sarkissian, I tried to move the article to become Arthur Sarkissian, but I get an error message that it's blocked. I think this must date back to the original attempts to create an article by a new editor who didn't understand copyright – the log shows you deleted Arthur Sarkissian at 14:59, 18 June 2009 for G12, and there were several subsequent attempts to re-create it.
Now that the article has matured somewhat and become established, is there any chance that the block on Arthur Sarkissian can be removed, please, so that I can move the article? — Hebrides ( talk) 07:32, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autoreviewer on User:Derek R Bullamore's request. NuclearWarfare may have removed the right, but I think you're the one who is the most up-to-date on this subject. Thanks. Courcelles ( talk) 23:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for asking me for assistance. I'll send him an e-mail in Western Armenian explaining the issue. Davo88 ( talk) 23:23, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I just described you as the copyright infringement go-to person on this. Would you, when you have time, take a look at the discussion at Talk:Natalie Wood#Linking to videos and the newest addition to the page, here. I still have grave reservations about linking to those clips and had even greater ones on the list of links added prior to that. The editor that added thinks they qualify as fair-use. There were just a bunch of inappropriately uploaded images by the article's resident sock puppet from magazines and articles that were deleted. I trust your judgment on this. Thanks so much. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 06:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
I have nominated for AfD Barbara Dex Award (using Twinkle) - only to find it has been there before - can you check the current page vs the one deleted before to see if if should be CSD under G4 ?
Thanks Codf1977 ( talk) 14:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi.
I am a member of the PLK Regimental Association. I notice that their entry was deleted in 2008, not sure of the reason why. I intend to recreate the page, just thought I would contact you 1st.
Regards
Queensassociation ( talk) 22:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I think this photo on the Janis Joplin page was originally a fair use for the article on the album. Is it okay for it to be uploaded to her article? [11]. Thanks for checking, :D Malke 2010 15:02, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
The better icon for this one comes from {{subst:SCV|cu}} which gets you
I suppose it's really the same icon, but whatever. <shrug> VernoWhitney ( talk) 20:23, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for all the great advice and help in the last year Malke 2010 00:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC) |
So I came across 50 Cutest Child Stars: All Grown Up today and recalled that you had been involved in a discussion at Talk:Forbes list of billionaires regarding just how much of a list was allowable under WP:NFC. I was wondering if you had any general rules or guidelines on reproducing portions of creative lists. While looking for your old conversation I also found List of Forbes Celebrity 100 and List of members of the Forbes 400 (2008). I'm pretty certain that all of these need to be trimmed, but the question is how much. VernoWhitney ( talk) 16:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Hey don't play with a lung infection, seriously. I had one that felt like a heart attack in the middle of the night (Mar. 2, 2010) requiring a 911 call. My Crohn's and the infection collided and with the nerve damage I have to my left arm the ER people thought so too. The infection started to get into my blood stream at the hospital so they slammed me hard with antibiotics. So take care of yourself. You definitely don't want to eat the food in hosptials. :) I just thought I would share since I didn't take my infection seriously enough and didn't start the antibiotics like I should have. Be well and soon, -- CrohnieGal Talk 18:24, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Should you feel up to it, I just noticed that there's another half to one of the lists I pointed you at: List of members of the Forbes 400 (204-400). VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Why isn't Ian Venables listed on WP:Copyright problems anymore? The article is still tagged. 74.227.52.21 ( talk) 21:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Not our usual copyright stuff but I just tagged Girl band with a PROD but I am wondering if it could be speedied as a duplicate. For some reason it was a redirect to the All-female band article until January when an I.P cut and pasted that and put it here/there. If you think it can be speedied (Using A10) please remove the prod and do it. I see no reason why the duplicate article was actually created in the first place, and why nobody noticed it before. Soundvisions1 ( talk) 03:10, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
(sectioned from above)
Good idea to see what it does. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:39, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
You left a message at my talk page here claiming that I was out of line. I appreciate your concern and more so your voicing that concern to me. I was not aware that removing a copyright template that was placed without explanation was considered a violation of any kind. The template in question, at least on the date it was placed, read that the user placing the template has also put a notice on that article's talk page explaining the copyright dispute. The user who placed the template did not. After waiting an ample amount of time for that user to do so, I removed the template deeming it was placed in error or abuse. The content zeroed out by the template was misformatted cruft that I on any other day would have simply deleted as it was all trivial and, as I pointed out, badly formatted and unreadable. I left it in place to avoid confrontation from a member of a WikiProject I was not associated with. Your edits have dealt with the cruft and made my concerns moot. Thank you for doing something about it. However, your message on my talk page seems over the top and if you have misgivings about my efforts here on Wikipedia in the future I would appreciate it if you would speak to me as a human instead of using what looks like a legal boilerplate. Again, thank you and good day to you. ^_^ æron phone home 14:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi your disputes re mr livingstone strong dont seem to make sense ive bought some of the surfboards in question they are magnificent? ive seen one of the monuments found it breathtaking ive followed this guys career since i was 12 and aside of micheal jacksons comments i cant see what u mean its 95% factual you have created huge damage with this as journalists in australia will now not print anything thats disputed can you please enlighten me where its wrong? im really struggling with this are you an aggreived person thx luke u can ph me australia <contact information redacted> and ill ph u back whatever its very important to me thanks in advance luke —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coastalstyle ( talk • contribs) 11:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you are eligible to vote for Picture of the Year. You should participate and support your favorite, to show that there's interest in high quality contributions that are no copyright violations ;) Hekerui ( talk) 13:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, Thanks for setting up that page. I have got a few ideas and I will put them up on the page. I'm just trying to get the wording just right so we don't end up with another problem like with the last one. Hope you are feeling better. I did not know you were ill. :/ Malke 2010 14:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Moonriddengirl. We had an edit conflict on the editor's talk page: I was also trying to direct him to WP:CONSENT and to make clear whose permission he needs. I'm not quite sure why I was bothering, though, because I suspect he has a strong case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT and that the problem will simply recur. The secondary problem is that his plan to contact Facco and Fidenato only bolsters the impression that he has an association with them, in which case he shouldn't be creating and editing articles about them or their organization in the first place. I discovered in the course of the research prep prior to the Movimento Libertario AfD that he writes for the organization's website, but if it's proving nearly impossible to get him to pay attention to copyright, good luck getting him to abide by WP:COI. -- Rrburke ( talk) 01:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Well, that didn't take long (see response 11). Evidently you're a "censor" (were you aware?) and we're all wikifascists ("fasciowikipediani"). -- Rrburke ( talk) 20:33, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
I know you don't really get into image copyright issues, but given your massive number of talk page watchers, I figured this is another good place to post for me to spam my plea(I hope you don't mind too much): your input is requested at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 68#Non-free magazine covers. VernoWhitney ( talk) 19:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello,
You deleted an article I did on this William Boyd novel and I would be interested to know on what grounds you did this? As far as I recall, the article was written based on my third reading of the novel so I hope it was not deleted on the basis of copyright infringement?
Ivan Kinsman Ivankinsman ( talk) 17:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
On Alex Zunger, I found what appeared to be copyright vio, copypasted from websites; I removed the copyvio with this edit after using a Google search. Was this copyvio, or did I delete good material? Bramble claw x 22:36, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I don't mean to bug you but I was just curious about something (it regards copyright). If I wanted to upload a picture to post on an article and I wasn't sure who owns the rights to it, can I still do it? The picture has been published on websites and in various books through the years. http://www2.netdoor.com/~campbab/kong/kkfrank.jpg Giantdevilfish ( talk) 16:48, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
You may want to give your expert opinion for this MCQ quotes related post WP:MCQ#Paul Legrand, with longish cites from an 1854 book. OK?. Thanks ww2censor ( talk) 03:27, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
The post RFC discussion has remained split and entangled. The current discussion is at:
Cheers, Jack Merridew 22:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
I, too, would like to express my agreement that this -- holding a centralized, well-thought out, neutrally begun RFC -- is a good idea and my enjoyment of the expression "Bob's your uncle". Chicken monkey 00:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I have started a subpage for the RfC at User:Moonriddengirl/RfC and begun by creating a first draft opening sentence and a bit of background. I have opened a question about the direction of those contents at the talk page, and I would very much appreciate (calm) conversation about it. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:02, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Just stopped by to let you know that this is a busy week for me. Next week should be a lot freer, so I'll comment then. Overall, I see this next step as about colour site-wide and we need input up-front from all sorts of groups, especially the MOS types (no idea who that might be, though;). I don't think is should be the WP:ACTOR issues specifically. It should be mentioned as an impetus, and links for reference. Best wishes, Jack Merridew 05:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind this. I cheekily considered changing "he" to "she" as in practice "he or she" seems to almost always be "she"! -- Mkativerata ( talk) 00:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
You are invited to make a comment at Wikiquette Alerts under Removing vandalism [ [14]]. PYRRHON talk 01:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Dear, as you might notice, I don't have too much time (/experience) on wikipedia, please see the current version of al-Muthanna club (June 2010), and tell me if its OK. Sallese ( talk) 02:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Just letting you know that I reopened the Lib3rtarian discussion as it doesn't seem at all resolved. He stopped replying to messages and started using IPs to sock around the block and continue editing "his" articles (he admits it was him) and his last message to me on his talk page was rather unpleasant (what I could make out, anyway). He accused me of ranting, being a hypocrite, fool, a fascist, something about me and kangaroos and koalas and "animals with a QI like (me)"...I think we might need to put an end to him editing here period. AGFing certainly doesn't seem to be helping make any progress. He refuses a translator, insists his English is okay, that it's just some Italian words don't translate well. He also made some reference to his organsiation and some "official behaviours" against me or somesuch, I'm not really sure but he seemed to be trying to say they were going to take action against me or something. So I've restarted that ANI report. Cheers, Sarah 05:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, On my talk page I have posted a formal permission statement that donates content and photos copyrighted by the College of Mount St. Joseph for use the College of Mount St. Joseph article. A substantial body of these materials were added by me and subsequently deleted by Wikipedia's administrators back in 2009. Could you please let me know if this action is sufficient to have the content and photos restored? I'll be happy to take further steps if need be, please just let me know. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cliffwjenkins ( talk • contribs) 13:44, 14 June 2010 (UTC) Cliffwjenkins ( talk) 13:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I added a comment on the subpage you made. Thanks. Malke 2010 14:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Who did I attack? I simply mentioned that he was retired and frequently commented on American Idol articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.226.104.225 ( talk) 17:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
has now been posted! I'll send H an email letting him know we're good to go. ceran thor 19:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
Copyright again - can you have a look at File:FREJ.jpg - not sure that the licensing is correct but not sure which option to pick.
Thanks
Codf1977 ( talk) 16:20, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
...but just to be sure, is there any reason Way of the Warrior (video game)/deleted revisions 2010-06-06 is still around? VernoWhitney ( talk) 03:53, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
I tried adding Stephen Auerbach (whom I work with) to wikipedia, using a bio from his website that he gave me permission to use. You automatically deleted it. I responded with an email from my personal account, as well as one from auerfilms (stephen AUERback) with the template posted on wiki's website. I've got no response and his page still isn't up. Can you please help me. You can email me at: <e-mail redacted for privacy>
Thank you!!!!!!
Superdavit ( talk) 08:06, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
This is an important article on World Telugu Conference. Can I rewrite the article, if yes In what way. Please give me suggestion. Thank You.Dr. Rajasekhar A. 13:22, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
The IP (and self-declared "friend" of Loofus5) continues to blank User talk:63.226.104.225, claiming it is "their" user page, despite it being a shared IP. I've restored the version with the warnings and block notice as they're useful to other editors. Voceditenore ( talk) 06:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl, this is Survir. I just want to ask you that there is two Indian television actors with the same name Vishal Singh, how would you create pages on both if they have exactly the same name. Can you please help me. Thank you! Your friend, Survir ( talk) 21:45, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl.
I wonder if I can impose on your time. I was referred to you by user Invertzoo as the resident expert on all things copyright. I have a question regarding uploads to wikicommons that I can't seem to find a definitive answer for on the help pages. Forgive me if I have missed it. For a seaslug article I created over at the gastropod project, I came across a great set of photos on an external seaslug forum website, submitted by a member of the public which would be of great value to the article. I emailed the owner and asked him whether he would consider releasing them to CC so they could be included on wikipedia. He said he was very happy to do so and would send me whichever photos I liked. However taking a look over at wikicommons I noticed that it isn't just that easy and I can't necessarily do it on his behalf. I don't know that he would want to go to the effort of doing it himself either. Is there a way around this? Have you encountered this problem before yourself? Best wishes, Antarctic-adventurer (talk) 10:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
The images Title, Title and Title on this website are available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License. Attribution must be provided to [Whatever name he pleases].
Hi Moonriddengirl,if you have time would you please comment List_of_English_Electoral_Wards_by_Constituency,this AFD There are claims of copy vio. Off2riorob ( talk) 00:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
That is a very informative comment, respect and thanks. Off2riorob ( talk) 11:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Can you take a look and see if you ever received permission or anything for Livernois vehicle or from User talk:Shilaski? It's been repeatedly deleted under G12 but they claim they sent an email. A related article ( Livernois Vehicle Development) came up at SCV again today which appears to be the same situation. VernoWhitney ( talk) 15:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
You've Got Mail (<-- I love that film!). Theleftorium (talk) 20:11, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Our Web Editor, Rob Schroeder, has sent the permissions e-mail to the Wikimedia Foundation. Hoping we could take you up on your offer to expedite the permissions process and restoration of deleted copyrighted material. Thanks very much! Cliffwjenkins ( talk) 11:22, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your help. Yes, the images such as File:Ziv Art Building.jpg are all copyrighted and owned by the College, and would be released to the Wikimedia Foundation per today's permissions e-mail. Cliffwjenkins ( talk) 14:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
So I decided to see if OTRS still needs a hand and dropped my application off at meta:OTRS/volunteering#User:VernoWhitney. You asked me to let you know if I did, so here I am. :) VernoWhitney ( talk) 15:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Since I know you aren't busy dealing with other, larger, copyright matters <hah> could you take a look and see if LakeT ( talk · contribs)'s recent contributions to the copyright articles are problematic close paraphrases or not? I ran into them before while you were away, so I keep seeing the similarities and would like someone else to take a look at it (and nobody else was very interested in checking it the first time around). See for example this diff compared to the source. The contributions are better than they were a month ago, but I can't tell if they're clean enough. VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Copyright law was created by statute and all works created and published before copyright law was first established are in the public domain. In this historical context Paul Torremans describes copyright as a "little coral reef of private right jutting up from the ocean of the public domain." [1]
My apologies for seeking help here, since I have the ever-so-slight impression you may well be a smidgen busy, but I've got lost trying to find an appropriate forum for asking general advice on copyright problems. (Re-directing me to such a forum would be a much appreciated response.)
If you have the time, I have two queries: one about the WP:COPYLINK guidelines, and the other about licensing of people's own work
All the best. – Syncategoremata ( talk) 23:13, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Continued Problems Malke 2010: What to do?. Toddst1 ( talk) 00:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
In case you weren't aware, Malke has been blocked for a month. She has asked for you at User talk:Malke 2010#Message for Moonriddengirl. AniMate 05:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
... Talk of failed mentoring has been bandied about; has Malke been mentored? She says she has not. Others may have tried to advise her - I've done so myself - but mentoring is a collaborative arrangement that requires acceptance on both parts. ...
Hi Moonriddengirl, sorry to bother you as I'm sure that you are busy. I'm currently putting an article I wrote through a military history A class review. The article is No. 6 Commando and the ACR can be found here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/No. 6 Commando. In response to a request for some more relevant images, I have uploaded this one to Commons: [22]. To be honest I'm not sure if I've licenced it appropriately and have a bad feeling that I might have committed some horrible copyright breach. At the ACR they suggested contacting you for some advice on copyright tags. Would you mind taking a quick look at the Commons description page and letting me know if you think I've licenced it correctly or not? If I haven't, then it should probably be deleted and you have my humblest apologies. The background story to the image is that I scanned it from a book published in 1996, but the photograph is attributed in the book to the Imperial War Museum collection and was taken in April 1942. Thus I have licenced it PD-BritishGov. AustralianRupert ( talk) 14:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I have noticed that in the above Featured List, that the notes column for some buildings (KeyBank Tower (2), Liberty Tower (6), Centre City Building (8), Landing Apartments (9) and Schuster Performing Arts Center(11)) contains details which have been taken word-for-word from their respective pages on the Emporis.com website. If you have a spare minute could you take a look or point me in the direction of the correct venue to deal with this. -- 88.111.59.90 ( talk) 16:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
The article, List of tallest buildings in Dayton just (today) passed a two week long scrutiny by at least four administrators on Wikipedia's featured list candidates. Please see the closed archive for this nomination here: [24]. I am really confused that out of all of the people listed here, that they wouldn't have found the problems. And if this was such a big deal, then why did it pass the nomination as a FL? Thanks! Texas141 ( talk) 20:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I was looking through the CCI I just opened for Chewygum, and there appears to be a significant overlap of articles with more recent user LightAj ( talk · contribs) who was indef-blocked for copyvios a few weeks ago. See this history for example. Should I just make a general note for reviewers to make sure to check if copyvio has been reintroduced or should I run them through the contribution surveyor so I can make a note by the particular articles they worked on too? VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Dave1185 has asked me to comment on this. I've watchlisted many articles on the Philippino military for the last few years to protect them against a couple of persistent vandals, so have a degree of familiarity with these edits. While checkuser may very well prove otherwise, Chewygum and LightAj have somewhat different editing styles - copyvios aside, LightAj's textual edits were more productive. Articles on the Philippino military suffer from a high degree of vandalism, and I suspect that most of the editors who work on them are young and don't have a good grasp of the English-language. Nick-D ( talk) 07:54, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for showing me where I went wrong. All of these edits were made out of Wikipedia:Good faith and I did not understand what the issue was until you brought it to light for me. I will (from now on) be sure to watch the copyrights of material before I proceed to use editing purposes and I will take care to keep Wikipedia's copyright policy's more carefully when I edit. Thank you again for bringing this issue to light. I will now be a more productive editor as well as a more careful one. Texas141 ( talk) 20:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. You always know the right thing to say and you always make the most sense of anybody anywhere. Of course I've brought you these flowers: [25], but after such a long day, you need a good laugh. I found this on recent changes patrol and he is my favorite vandal. Notice the name of the article. I can just imagine this kid sitting at his computer screen, chomping on a potato chip as he does this: [26]. Thanks again. See ya on the mentor page. Malke 2010 00:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I saw you just blanked George Clark (American football coach) and relisted it under today's CP page, and it reminded me of some questions regarding user notification I had (some of which I also posted earlier this morning at WT:COPYCLEAN). Since the article was created in Dec '06 and the copyvio introduced then, does it really matter if we notify them or not? Also something I just noticed this morning about my own edits, I haven't been notifying users when I blank the page once they've placed an OTRS pending tag or otherwise asserted permission. Should I be? VernoWhitney ( talk) 15:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Certainly if it was placed by an IP. If it was placed by a now-inactive registered contributor some time ago and if I would have G12ed it when it was created, I may delete without notification, leaving User:Moonriddengirl/carticle behind. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I was going through a few suspected copyright violations and came across a website that is a clear mirror of Wikipedia, but not only doesn't credit Wikipedia, it also claims copyright. Is there anything that can or needs to be done in that situation? Hope you don't mind me asking you—you seem to be a bit of a guru in this area! -- Beloved Freak 22:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, thanks for the compliment on the edit. I've posted on our subpage. Malke 2010 14:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I received an email today from Ed Pegg complaining that many of the graph drawings in Commons:User:Koko90 are copied from MathWorld. (I don't think the files themselves have been copied, but the images have the same vertex layout and the same visual stylings, far more closely than would be likely by coincidence. In most cases one can find the corresponding images on MathWorld just by searching for the name of the graph depicted in each image.) Is there an equivalent of WP:CCI for commons? Or, if not, what is the best way to deal with an issue like this? I left a message on Koko90's Wikipedia page about this, but he hasn't edited for a month. — David Eppstein ( talk) 20:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I am sorry about this oversight, I am learning how to publish a new page, and trying to help a well deserving artist friend who is well known and should be included in Wikipedia. You may be able to verify this by looking at her Website that I was trying to paste part of the biography here in Wikipedia. I Understand what the problem is now, even so she would be delighted to be in Wikipedia. I know she will grant permission, what and how do I get this to you so that it can be published?
Please do not band me from been able to publish pages permanently. I wasn't sure this material was copyrighted. I made several attempts to publish this not knowing what was happening. It would be very helpful for all people involved (Editors & Yourself) if a very visible pop-up warning came about the first time one accidentally violates a rule, rather that stumbling across the sea of information and small links a person not knowing has to look for. This will allow an editor from getting banned while trying to find out what is preventing them from publishing. I am not sure I got banned all ready as I made several attempts before finding your message. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Louis De Pena ( talk • contribs) 19:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I see you are mentoring here. I only read this partially but I think I read enough because I was watching bits and pieces of the AN/i. Now to my question, I've not had any contact with this editor but have seen him/her postings at a couple of talk pages I watch. Would you and him/she like some extra eyes to help with the mentoring? I've never done a mentoring before but have always wanted to be second fiddle so I could learn how to help editors that need it. If not a good idea just let me know. I promise my feelings won't be hurt. :)
On a different note, how are you feeling? I hope you are better now, your edits seem to show you are feeling better and have a bit more energy but I'd still like to check in with you. :) Take care and be well, -- CrohnieGal Talk 22:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I've sent you an email. I'm also planning a post on the subpage today. If you're too busy or want to take a break, I'm not expecting an immediate reply. :D Malke 2010 16:46, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
You might want to see [27]. Dougweller ( talk) 20:09, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi MrG. Can you look into this and maybe add an OTRS template to the talk page? Thanks, Theleftorium (talk) 10:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Fine Arts | ||
For taking the time to not only remove copyrighted content but to provide well-written and well-sourced replacements, for the oh so many Renaissance and Baroque painting articles I've sent your direction over the past couple of months. VernoWhitney ( talk) 21:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC) |
Since I already turned this into a generic CCI thread, I figure I may as well continue: I just wrapped up the last little bit of another CCI and pursuant to our conversation at Wikipedia talk:Contributor copyright investigations#Confidentiality questions, I was trying to place it in the archive under the contributors name instead of the date, as far as I can tell, though, there isn't a way to specify a different subpage and title for the archive link (I've just put in a clunky substituted workaround for now). Do you know of a way to do it with the current template or should I look into adapting {{ CCI-closed}} to take an extra parameter? VernoWhitney ( talk) 16:28, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Since my last bot-related question to you got archived and this is somewhat CCI related, I'm shoehorning it in here: The way VWBot is currently running it thinks that articles from a CCI which were blanked on the day a CCI gets closed need to have their contributor notified (see User:VWBot/Trial#29 June 2010 for two examples from yesterday). I know that it isn't required to notify contributors about a CCI blanking, but is it a problem if the bot does it for whichever articles are blanked on the day their CCI is closed? I haven't been able to think of an easy way to account for closed CCIs yet, so I guess I just want your take on if it's a big enough problem to worry about for later. VernoWhitney ( talk) 03:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello! :-) Do you agree that an indefinite block is needed for Arpanmehra ( talk · contribs)? Theleftorium (talk) 13:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Won't archive anything unless there are about six five threads on the talk page. First time users who config with a short archive time, have only a few threads on their talk page and then wait for it to do its thing often think it's not working at all.
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16:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)One of the things I like best about Wikipedia, we have people with a lot of different talents around here. And that's a good thing, because it means I can spread my help requests around. Poor J. For a while there, I didn't know who else to turn to about this stuff. (Ha, Gwen! Now I have another resource!) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Raised here, it seems that our first edit for Tryton copied some content from the copyrighted web page for the software. How do we fix this? – xeno talk 16:37, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
No problem. We each have our strengths. (Or, I could say, tolerances.) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:16, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I wanted to extend my deep appreciation for your help, in "how to" vis-a-vis avoiding copying copyrigted material. My qeustion would then be, is it now, [with my last version AND your "fixing" part added] impossible, already, to revive the deleted al-Muthanna_club? Sallese ( talk) 16:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I have something to do on July 3rd. Don't forget, me. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Care to review this? There are threads related to it on the article talk page, User talk:Viriditas, User talk:Maile66, and User talk:Wildhartlivie. Jack Merridew 18:03, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay. You're welcome to comment, and I appreciate that (your statement that you find me helpful, that is), but I do wish I could offer some concrete assistance. It took me forever just to read through the ANI thread. I'm not sure if mediation would help, but I do kind of wonder if the ANI thread you link might not have suffered with a bit of sprawl, just like the actor RfC. If you feel like Jack is not giving you enough breathing room and the two of you can't negotiate some comfortable terms to make things more pleasant for both of you (seems from reading the whole ANI thread that you both feel frustrated), then outside intervention might be really a good idea. I am hesitant to suggest a Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct since it is by nature kind of adversarial (while mediation tries to bring you together). Really, it would be great if you could negotiate some parameters of interaction that would work for you. But you know better than I do what you two have tried and what has or hasn't worked. Beyond RfC I don't know what to suggest. Arbitration? Yikes. I'd go for the RfC first. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:47, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
This is why I wasn't going to be active at the RFC. I've watched this going on and have been called a meat puppet of WHL and more because of my open acknkowledgement of us being friends. I try to help keep WHL calm when she gets upset and/or is baited. She gets sick if she gets stressed out and as you know, I understand this so I try to help. I do it 'off' site via email where I feel more comfortable talking to her about the good, the bad and the ugly. I console her when things are bad for her but I also tell her what she should do differently to help the situation. It was actually working and she reached out to Jack for some coding help which he kindly did. That was a huge step from WHL to try and calm down the controversy. Unfortunately it didn't last. I still continue to talk to WHL when things get going which is how I found the thread at Fences and windows. I didn't have time to comment there but now I see Jack has again canvassed a bunch of editors, which I will also note are mostly administrators. Why did he put the same note on so many editors talk page, why so many administrators? Jack, why, what's the purpose? I am trying real hard to assume goo faith here but I have to admit I am have trouble doing so. WHL is an excellent editor. I admire the hard work she has done for the project. I wish I was half the editor she is and I mean this. Yet you accuse her of ownership issues and a slew of other things. You know if you keep saying this, do you think it makes it true? You also accuse her of having too many reverts even after she told you multiple times that she does recent patrol duty which is usually a lot of reverting of vandals. I do recent patrol too and I also do a lot of reverting. Why does this matter? What I would love to see is polite conversation without assuming someone has more or less knowledge in any area. I too reverted you a few times when you changed tables because it was under discussion and you said you wouldn't touch any tables, yet you did. I'm not going to get into any more of the accusation flying around. Basically what I would like to say is that if I can help either of you at least be polite and civil with each, something I think I am really good at, I am available. I talk with WHL via email because then we are free to say what we want and hash things out. Jack if you want to do this too, I am more then welcoming you to. I would really love this whole thing to stop already since it's gotten really old for all of us. So if you or anyone wants to chat with me please feel free to first ping my talk page. If things need to go to email then fine I'll say if it's ok to do so. I hope my long babble helps a little. :) MRG, I haven't commented much on the RFC but I promise to take a look at what your question is and give you a reply hopefully tomorrow (I'm going to lie down after I save this). Jack, please if you wouldn't mind, would you go to the others that you posted to about this and kill the postings as a gester of wanting to calm the waters. That would be appreciated I'm sure. We don't need more conversations like this one and the one at Fences and windows. Thanks in advance to you all, -- CrohnieGal Talk 23:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
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What isn't OR in this 100Kb article is plagiarised from the subject's books. Now although he died in 1951, his books have been re-translated recently, eg this one [1] which has been copied to use in the article. As a translation, isn't it a fresh copyright? If it is, I think the best thing is just to stub it, it's just an OR textbook right now on his works anyway. I don't think anyone can go through the article just dealing with the copyvio stuff if I'm right about it still being in copyright. Dougweller ( talk) 19:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl/Archive 23 I am राम प्रसाद जोशी from Nepal. My old acount is blocked at http://ne.wikipedia.org so that I open a new acount. My new user name is User:राम प्रसाद जोशी. I want make my old user page ( User:Rameshti) and old talk page ( User talk:Rameshti) to new user page ( User:राम प्रसाद जोशी) but I can not move this page. please help me. -- राम प्रसाद जोशी ( talk) 04:30, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I've rewrote again, its allot shorter but avoids paraphrasing this time. If you have any free time, please have a quick look at it. Thanks, once again. And have a nice holiday :) Acather96 ( talk) 19:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Enjoy your vaka ! I rewrote the two sections you flagged on the John Andrew Rea piece, and dropped citations in for the website and the Port of Takoma newsletter. Can you take a look when you return? Thanks! -- Cmagha ( talk) 00:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC) Cmagha.
You are receiving this note because of your participation in WT:Revision deletion#Community consultation, which is referred to in Wikipedia:VPR#Proposal to turn on revision deletion immediately (despite some lingering concerns). – xeno talk 14:15, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Offline potential copyvio discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parten's classic study of play. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi
Another question- I am not sure about this one - is List of former chairmen of Cambridge University Conservative Association a copy vio of [3] - I think not but wanted to check.
Codf1977 ( talk) 18:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
My name is David McElroy and I work with Stephen Auerbach, a filmmaker here in Los Angeles. I created his page and added a bio, which he gave me (perhaps from his own webpage). However, I was told you took it down. Why is that? I even added a note explaining that we have permission to use his bio, seeing how he's the one that created it. Can you please un-delete it and then email me back at superdavit@hotmail.com
Thanks for your help.
David McElroy —Preceding
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Also for you. ^_^ Silver seren C 04:35, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I have nominated CP Gurnani, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CP Gurnani. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. UtherSRG (talk) 12:35, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
[4] Not sure how good it is, though. MER-C 13:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if you could please provide me with some direction on how to restore a large amount of content and images that were deleted in 2009 in the article about the College of Mount St. Joseph. I see now that some of the images I uploaded were missing copyright tags and that permissions needed to be specified for content that was similar to copy found on various subpages of www.msj.edu. Now that I am aware of this, I will be happy to take these steps and any others that would allow the deleted material to be restored in accordance with Wikipedia's policies. Could you please let me know how to proceed from here? Thanks! Cliffwjenkins ( talk) 13:21, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
At least WP:CP isn't backed up for the whole two weeks you were gone, only half of it. VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:49, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Welcome back! :) Theleftorium (talk) 20:06, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
WB. Sorry I've been a poor steward in your absence, I just returned to editing today. Flight delays suck. MLauba ( Talk) 21:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
So now that you've been welcomed back, I figure I'll co-opt your talk page. I've proposed Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VWBot and would appreciate any feedback you or your legion of talk-page watchers have at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Copyright Cleanup#Another bot for the project?. Cheers. VernoWhitney ( talk) 22:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
My page This_Is_How_You_Play was recently marked for speedy deletion. The wikipedia help page indicated that you were one of the users that could "userfy" my page. I'm a noob on wikipedia and I probably did something really wrong, but I spent a few hours creating the page so I wouldn't want it to go to waste. Could you please "userfy" this page so that I can work on it until it's ready to prime time? Thank you Christorea ( talk) 00:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, the title says it all. Since I'm still new to Wikipedia, even though I've been contributing (not as much, since I'm a RC Patroller, a Tagger, and even a WikiGnome), I've still got things to learn about (I'll never know it all, so as everyone, though :P), I've still got some problems identifying some issues. Well, the template left in that User talk is not actually right, since it was a PROD, not an AfD, but Twinkle didn't have a warning for that, so I used up the one it was best suited to this problem. I admit it, I'm (sometimes) lazy to read the whole help article, assuming that I claim to understand the concept of the article, I let slip some stuff I was unaware of. I'm concerned about the future of this article, what will we do about it? Oh, and welcome back! FredZ ( talk) 13:32, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Could you take a look at the permission for Pietro Porcinai and see if it's sufficient? It should be at Ticket:2007032510012681. I cave easily to needy messages on my talk page. VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:22, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Wrong ticket number. Ticket:2007032710020669 covers the biography on that site. It also covers "la lista dei lavori", which may be his list of works, but could also be his publications. Contact a native speaker for that. It does not cover any photos from the site. I'm following up on that at Commons. Cheers.-- Chaser ( talk) 00:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello... sorry it took a while to answer your post. Unfortunately, there have been problems with the Procon site in the past year or so. I found a significant amount of spammed ELs and "references" (i.e. links posted as 2nd or 3rd references after existing in-line references, or as replacements for existing valid cites), as well as a number of single-purpose and low-activity accounts that were doing this. At the same time, I learned that Procon had actually sponsored a contest amongst its members to spur the creation of an article about the site, complete with a cash prize. Discussions about this problem led to the conclusion that, while the site was useful as a starting point, it should not be used as a reference source itself. Documents found there should be traced back to their original publisher. Hope this helps; I do realize that the regular Wikipedians who have placed these links did so in good faith, and sometimes the edit summary doesn't entirely convey that. Cheers. -- Ckatz chat spy 15:55, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar | ||
For cleaning up more copyright problems in a single day than I have in the past week. VernoWhitney ( talk) 21:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC) |
Oh, and I rewrote the close paraphrase that I saw in Doug Gray, so the only thing I left on the 20th is possible OTRS permission for restoring some content to Li Yi (sociologist). VernoWhitney ( talk) 21:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm hoping Ckatz, who's involved with this article, can help, but on the article talk page I've noted some copyvio. I don't have time, or at least shouldn't, to do much on it. It's a very complex article and there may be quite a bit more. Dougweller ( talk) 20:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
There has been a lot of information added to Serial Killer which I'm sorry to say looks like cut/paste entries. I'm not sure how to check to see if that is the case so here I am. I removed a lot of the new edits for lack of sources, undo weight and POV type comments. Would you mind taking a peek? Sections like 'Fantasy' just seem wrong. You can see the new edit is the history. There are like three or four new editors adding large chunks to the article. It shouldn't be hard to see which ones. I swear though that the new stuff looks like it was taken from somewhere else verbatim or at least close to verbatim. I may be wrong with this but the way the new items are written it really looks like a cut and paste addition. I would really appreciate it if you have time to take a look at the article and if I am right, remove the sections that shouldn't be there. If I'm wrong, I'll be more than happy to apologize for wasting your time. Thanks in advance, -- CrohnieGal Talk 18:23, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Making notes. I will replace this with my conclusions, but if you care, you can follow my progress here. :) I'm up to
[5], and there are certainly red flags. So far, I have not found any problems, though, up to and including this edit. I've done a mechanical scan and a spot check, and I'm currently checking a few of the sources directly (such as footnote 19. See
[6]. Note, that this footnote may not support that text, but I'm not reviewing closely for this, and the contributor does not identify the specific edition, so the page number may be out of whack. However, from a copyright standpoint, there's no problem here, as I failed to find even a single match in that book for "child's development.") --
Moonriddengirl
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Okay, Moonriddengirl. Thanks a lot. I will go ahead and take care of that one sentence. Flyer22 ( talk) 19:03, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, those tools can be handy for me to keep around so I bookmarked them. :) I know it's a lot of tedious work, that's why I always hesitate to ask you for help on something like this until I'm pretty sure there is a big problem going on. This time it wasn't as big as I thought but still you did good getting rid of that which was a problem. Thanks again, and I hope the jet lag is easing now. -- CrohnieGal Talk 10:14, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl,
I notice you get involved in copyright questions. I've noticed a table on Wikipedia that is copied verbatim from this this page, though somewhat re-formatted. I've removed the table, but it has been restored, on the grounds that the material on the webpage itself comes from multiple sources. There's a discussion about it here, if you care to weigh in. Jayjg (talk) 00:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Got two more trips assigned to me, this week and next. I won't be around, sorry. :( MLauba ( Talk) 07:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
A new account just reverted my reversion on CP Gurnani from your original version to the one that was copied from the home website. The account's edit summary said that they are in the process of changing the website's home page, so that the information in the article will no longer be a copy. Does this actually change the copyrighted status of the article if they change where it was copied from? Wouldn't it be easier for them to just fill out a ticket to allow the material on Wikipedia? Silver seren C 20:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I feel as though I am being bullied out of Wikipedia when all I do for the most part is qualitatively improve articles by adding citations. I have a group of malign editors that have formed a cohort against me. They have searched really hard to find a few matters of dispute out of my 20,000 or more edits that I have made to this Project. I would appreciate some of your time.
B9 hummingbird hovering (
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my dear wikipedian-collegiates wonder why I rarely enter into conversation with such bland stupidity, all of them, those MOANING, have justly had their egos branded by the Hummingbird, this is true.
Well, I feel it is important to open up the discussion with people who are impartial. I have 20 people for the most part who keep on banding together against me, that isn't consensus that is partisan. B9 hummingbird hovering ( talk • contribs) 12:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Note: I already asked this of MLauba, but he had to run away before he followed up on it, so now I turn to you. I was wondering if you could take a look at Talk:Public domain#Copyright infringement dispute (and if you enjoy drama, the related Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive615#Copyright violations in copyright-related articles) and see if LakeT ( talk · contribs)'s latest additions to Public domain and Orphan works are close paraphrases or not.
As a less serious question, have admins always been reluctant to get involved in copyright issues, or did others just retire and leave you holding the slack? VernoWhitney ( talk) 00:48, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Just stopping by to say "hi". I know you're busy but I just wanted to let you know I am still grateful for all your kindness and help. The process isn't over yet so I'll wait and see if anything else pops up as you advised me it would take at least several months. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 22:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello,
You took down an article I put up citing the biographies of living persons rule. I'm confident that adhered to the policy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPF#People_who_are_relatively_unknown Please can you refer to the policy when discussing this kind of unilateral action before acting. You are not the boss of what goes in or out, you can raise concerns and remove things that violate a policy that you can cite, but you are not judge and jury.
I hope that helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macdaddy ( talk • contribs) 08:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi.
Could you have a look at US Arab Chamber of Commerce. Is there an OTRS ticket pending for this one? It seems related to Arab Chamber of Commerce. Regards. -- Whpq ( talk) 11:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I'd like your opinion on a copyright matter. I happened on the article Broken Hill Ore Deposit and found that the text of the "Geology" and "Genesis" sections in it are verbatim matches for sections of this professional geologist's report (pages 5–7). However, the report is dated 3 October 2007, and our article was created on 15 August 2007, with the content in question present, which would seem to preclude any copyright violation on our part. Nevertheless, I find it difficult to believe that the geologist would have lifted major parts of the report from WP without acknowledgment. The editor who created the article has also created and expanded a number of other geology-related articles—never, as far as I can see, including any sources at all for his information. He claims, on his user page and in talk-page comments, to be an Australian geologist, so I suppose it's possible that he wrote both the WP article and the professional report; but his user name gives no clue to any connection. I'd bring the matter up on his talk page, but he hasn't been active since April 2009, except for two isolated edits last June and July. Perhaps I'm being oversuspicious; what would you do in such a case? Deor ( talk) 20:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, we've talked in the past and unfortunatelly I took the impression that you're an expert in copyright issues, so that here I am again :-)
My question is related to this article: Inela Nogić. This Bosniak girl was the person that won the beauty contest in the besieged Sarajevo in 1993, and was the inspiration of U2's Miss Sarajevo. It can be argued that obtaining a free picture of her is somehow feasible. Do you think that such an argumentation would override a fair-use rationale for this image: here?
Best regards and many thanks in advance -- Ecemaml ( talk) 21:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl. Hope you enjoyed your holiday and had a good break. Back in the wikiworld I'm afraid I may have more for you again...
The article New Forest Coastal Heritage Project would appear to be almost a direct copy of this page on the NPA's website. I'm also fairly unsure about its notability and wonder if it might just be better off deleted. The creator of the article is JamesBrownNFNPA ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who has also edited the article New Forest. Specifically he's been working on the New Forest Coast section, his first edits coming only 5 minutes after an IP created the whole section. When added, the section appears to have been a fairly unedited copy of the parent NPA page here, but the current version of the article has changed it (but not a lot). These are the only articles the editor has edited and the latter section of his name (NFNPA) reads to me like New Forest National Park Authority (the runners of the website), and a James Brown appears in the news pages of the coastal section.....
BTW, the last incident I mentioned to you has progressed to here while you were on holiday. Welcome back! Ranger Steve ( talk) 11:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, please check Rewrite on Talk - 12.7.202.2 ( talk) 16:10, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I have recently manually tagged an article for possible copyright concerns. The tag is being repeatedly removed with potentially disparaging remarks left behind. Can you look at this article and help me determine if it is appropriate to tag the article as I have. The article is Millennium Prize Problems and I posted the web address being plagiarized. The P versus NP section and the The Hodge conjecture section are both also copied from this site and I suspect perhaps more. Thank you in advance for any attention you give this matter. My76Strat ( talk) 22:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Moonriddengirl, it would be most helpful if you can give me an idea of what portion(s) of the National Foundation for Credit Counseling page that you find violate the copyright. I am most surprised by your conclusion, since I have authored and edits dozens of Wiki pages over a few years, and yours is the first such notice. I really could care less if the NFCC page is updated, deleted or whatever -- it does however provide valuable and professional support to needy people -- but it would be helpful to learn what evidence if any you have to back up your copyright violation claim. Thank you. Mykjoseph Myk60640 ( talk) 00:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Each year, NFCC members assist 4 million consumers, helping many to reduce their debt and better control their finances.
Each year, NFCC Members assist 4 million consumers, helping many to drive down their debt and take control of their finances.
The National Foundation for Credit Counseling (NFCC) is a nonprofit organization that promotes the national agenda for financially responsible behavior and builds capacity for its Members to deliver the highest quality financial education and counseling services. Established in 1951, the NFCC is the nation's largest and longest serving national nonprofit credit counseling network, with more than 100 Member agencies and nearly 850 offices in communities throughout the country.
Founded in 1951, the National Foundation for Credit Counseling (NFCC), Inc., promotes the national agenda for financially responsible behavior and builds capacity for its Members to deliver the highest quality financial education and counseling services. The NFCC is the nations largest and longest serving national nonprofit credit counseling network, with more than 100 Member agencies and nearly 850 offices in communities throughout the country.
So I ran across the Tony Taggart article and noticed that it's still blanked from 15 April and listed as having incomplete permission under Ticket:2010041610020574. Any chance you could see what can/should be done with the article? VernoWhitney ( talk) 23:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi MrG. How are you? :) I'm currently looking at the William & Mary Scandal of 1951 article from Jrcla2's CCI and I think the following paragraph paraphrases the source too closely. Do you agree? Theleftorium (talk) 11:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
The William & Mary Board of Visitors officially stated in 1946 that it expected the school "to win more contests than we lose",[1][2] even though the process to become an athletic power had started years before. As a consequence, Rube McCray, the head football coach from 1944–1950, was given a substantial pay raise and earned more than any professor at the college in an effort to produce consistently winning teams. As a side effect of this decision, a double standard had been created for athletes entering William & Mary with minimal academic qualifications but who would receive nearly all of the college's scholastic financial aid.[1] Not only were the academic standards very low in order to bring in the best athletes, but McCray, who also jointly served as the school's athletic director and head of the physical education department, began to alter players' high school transcripts and their current college grades.[1][2]
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I'd like to do a BFish translation of an article on the Polish WP to (possibly) resolve a current article naming dispute. The translated article would of course need some work, so it'd go in my userspace first, but it would essentially be based on BF. The question's surely been addressed before, but could you point me to any relevant WP links? No hurry. Sincerely, Novickas ( talk) 21:47, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi MRG. Rather than check other sources for possible copyvio, it was easier just to re-write it (given the creator's past record).;-). All done now. See Talk:Ellen Faull/Temp. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 15:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Moonriddengirl. I've done a fair bit of work, on and off, on the Arthur Sarkissian (artist) article since it was created last August, as have several other editors. Since there are no other pages about anyone called Arthur Sarkissian, I tried to move the article to become Arthur Sarkissian, but I get an error message that it's blocked. I think this must date back to the original attempts to create an article by a new editor who didn't understand copyright – the log shows you deleted Arthur Sarkissian at 14:59, 18 June 2009 for G12, and there were several subsequent attempts to re-create it.
Now that the article has matured somewhat and become established, is there any chance that the block on Arthur Sarkissian can be removed, please, so that I can move the article? — Hebrides ( talk) 07:32, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autoreviewer on User:Derek R Bullamore's request. NuclearWarfare may have removed the right, but I think you're the one who is the most up-to-date on this subject. Thanks. Courcelles ( talk) 23:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for asking me for assistance. I'll send him an e-mail in Western Armenian explaining the issue. Davo88 ( talk) 23:23, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I just described you as the copyright infringement go-to person on this. Would you, when you have time, take a look at the discussion at Talk:Natalie Wood#Linking to videos and the newest addition to the page, here. I still have grave reservations about linking to those clips and had even greater ones on the list of links added prior to that. The editor that added thinks they qualify as fair-use. There were just a bunch of inappropriately uploaded images by the article's resident sock puppet from magazines and articles that were deleted. I trust your judgment on this. Thanks so much. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 06:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
I have nominated for AfD Barbara Dex Award (using Twinkle) - only to find it has been there before - can you check the current page vs the one deleted before to see if if should be CSD under G4 ?
Thanks Codf1977 ( talk) 14:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi.
I am a member of the PLK Regimental Association. I notice that their entry was deleted in 2008, not sure of the reason why. I intend to recreate the page, just thought I would contact you 1st.
Regards
Queensassociation ( talk) 22:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I think this photo on the Janis Joplin page was originally a fair use for the article on the album. Is it okay for it to be uploaded to her article? [11]. Thanks for checking, :D Malke 2010 15:02, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
The better icon for this one comes from {{subst:SCV|cu}} which gets you
I suppose it's really the same icon, but whatever. <shrug> VernoWhitney ( talk) 20:23, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
The Admin's Barnstar | ||
Thanks for all the great advice and help in the last year Malke 2010 00:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC) |
So I came across 50 Cutest Child Stars: All Grown Up today and recalled that you had been involved in a discussion at Talk:Forbes list of billionaires regarding just how much of a list was allowable under WP:NFC. I was wondering if you had any general rules or guidelines on reproducing portions of creative lists. While looking for your old conversation I also found List of Forbes Celebrity 100 and List of members of the Forbes 400 (2008). I'm pretty certain that all of these need to be trimmed, but the question is how much. VernoWhitney ( talk) 16:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Hey don't play with a lung infection, seriously. I had one that felt like a heart attack in the middle of the night (Mar. 2, 2010) requiring a 911 call. My Crohn's and the infection collided and with the nerve damage I have to my left arm the ER people thought so too. The infection started to get into my blood stream at the hospital so they slammed me hard with antibiotics. So take care of yourself. You definitely don't want to eat the food in hosptials. :) I just thought I would share since I didn't take my infection seriously enough and didn't start the antibiotics like I should have. Be well and soon, -- CrohnieGal Talk 18:24, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Should you feel up to it, I just noticed that there's another half to one of the lists I pointed you at: List of members of the Forbes 400 (204-400). VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Why isn't Ian Venables listed on WP:Copyright problems anymore? The article is still tagged. 74.227.52.21 ( talk) 21:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Not our usual copyright stuff but I just tagged Girl band with a PROD but I am wondering if it could be speedied as a duplicate. For some reason it was a redirect to the All-female band article until January when an I.P cut and pasted that and put it here/there. If you think it can be speedied (Using A10) please remove the prod and do it. I see no reason why the duplicate article was actually created in the first place, and why nobody noticed it before. Soundvisions1 ( talk) 03:10, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
(sectioned from above)
Good idea to see what it does. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:39, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
You left a message at my talk page here claiming that I was out of line. I appreciate your concern and more so your voicing that concern to me. I was not aware that removing a copyright template that was placed without explanation was considered a violation of any kind. The template in question, at least on the date it was placed, read that the user placing the template has also put a notice on that article's talk page explaining the copyright dispute. The user who placed the template did not. After waiting an ample amount of time for that user to do so, I removed the template deeming it was placed in error or abuse. The content zeroed out by the template was misformatted cruft that I on any other day would have simply deleted as it was all trivial and, as I pointed out, badly formatted and unreadable. I left it in place to avoid confrontation from a member of a WikiProject I was not associated with. Your edits have dealt with the cruft and made my concerns moot. Thank you for doing something about it. However, your message on my talk page seems over the top and if you have misgivings about my efforts here on Wikipedia in the future I would appreciate it if you would speak to me as a human instead of using what looks like a legal boilerplate. Again, thank you and good day to you. ^_^ æron phone home 14:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi your disputes re mr livingstone strong dont seem to make sense ive bought some of the surfboards in question they are magnificent? ive seen one of the monuments found it breathtaking ive followed this guys career since i was 12 and aside of micheal jacksons comments i cant see what u mean its 95% factual you have created huge damage with this as journalists in australia will now not print anything thats disputed can you please enlighten me where its wrong? im really struggling with this are you an aggreived person thx luke u can ph me australia <contact information redacted> and ill ph u back whatever its very important to me thanks in advance luke —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coastalstyle ( talk • contribs) 11:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you are eligible to vote for Picture of the Year. You should participate and support your favorite, to show that there's interest in high quality contributions that are no copyright violations ;) Hekerui ( talk) 13:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, Thanks for setting up that page. I have got a few ideas and I will put them up on the page. I'm just trying to get the wording just right so we don't end up with another problem like with the last one. Hope you are feeling better. I did not know you were ill. :/ Malke 2010 14:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Moonriddengirl. We had an edit conflict on the editor's talk page: I was also trying to direct him to WP:CONSENT and to make clear whose permission he needs. I'm not quite sure why I was bothering, though, because I suspect he has a strong case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT and that the problem will simply recur. The secondary problem is that his plan to contact Facco and Fidenato only bolsters the impression that he has an association with them, in which case he shouldn't be creating and editing articles about them or their organization in the first place. I discovered in the course of the research prep prior to the Movimento Libertario AfD that he writes for the organization's website, but if it's proving nearly impossible to get him to pay attention to copyright, good luck getting him to abide by WP:COI. -- Rrburke ( talk) 01:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Well, that didn't take long (see response 11). Evidently you're a "censor" (were you aware?) and we're all wikifascists ("fasciowikipediani"). -- Rrburke ( talk) 20:33, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
I know you don't really get into image copyright issues, but given your massive number of talk page watchers, I figured this is another good place to post for me to spam my plea(I hope you don't mind too much): your input is requested at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 68#Non-free magazine covers. VernoWhitney ( talk) 19:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello,
You deleted an article I did on this William Boyd novel and I would be interested to know on what grounds you did this? As far as I recall, the article was written based on my third reading of the novel so I hope it was not deleted on the basis of copyright infringement?
Ivan Kinsman Ivankinsman ( talk) 17:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
On Alex Zunger, I found what appeared to be copyright vio, copypasted from websites; I removed the copyvio with this edit after using a Google search. Was this copyvio, or did I delete good material? Bramble claw x 22:36, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I don't mean to bug you but I was just curious about something (it regards copyright). If I wanted to upload a picture to post on an article and I wasn't sure who owns the rights to it, can I still do it? The picture has been published on websites and in various books through the years. http://www2.netdoor.com/~campbab/kong/kkfrank.jpg Giantdevilfish ( talk) 16:48, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
You may want to give your expert opinion for this MCQ quotes related post WP:MCQ#Paul Legrand, with longish cites from an 1854 book. OK?. Thanks ww2censor ( talk) 03:27, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
The post RFC discussion has remained split and entangled. The current discussion is at:
Cheers, Jack Merridew 22:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
I, too, would like to express my agreement that this -- holding a centralized, well-thought out, neutrally begun RFC -- is a good idea and my enjoyment of the expression "Bob's your uncle". Chicken monkey 00:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I have started a subpage for the RfC at User:Moonriddengirl/RfC and begun by creating a first draft opening sentence and a bit of background. I have opened a question about the direction of those contents at the talk page, and I would very much appreciate (calm) conversation about it. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:02, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Just stopped by to let you know that this is a busy week for me. Next week should be a lot freer, so I'll comment then. Overall, I see this next step as about colour site-wide and we need input up-front from all sorts of groups, especially the MOS types (no idea who that might be, though;). I don't think is should be the WP:ACTOR issues specifically. It should be mentioned as an impetus, and links for reference. Best wishes, Jack Merridew 05:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind this. I cheekily considered changing "he" to "she" as in practice "he or she" seems to almost always be "she"! -- Mkativerata ( talk) 00:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
You are invited to make a comment at Wikiquette Alerts under Removing vandalism [ [14]]. PYRRHON talk 01:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Dear, as you might notice, I don't have too much time (/experience) on wikipedia, please see the current version of al-Muthanna club (June 2010), and tell me if its OK. Sallese ( talk) 02:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Just letting you know that I reopened the Lib3rtarian discussion as it doesn't seem at all resolved. He stopped replying to messages and started using IPs to sock around the block and continue editing "his" articles (he admits it was him) and his last message to me on his talk page was rather unpleasant (what I could make out, anyway). He accused me of ranting, being a hypocrite, fool, a fascist, something about me and kangaroos and koalas and "animals with a QI like (me)"...I think we might need to put an end to him editing here period. AGFing certainly doesn't seem to be helping make any progress. He refuses a translator, insists his English is okay, that it's just some Italian words don't translate well. He also made some reference to his organsiation and some "official behaviours" against me or somesuch, I'm not really sure but he seemed to be trying to say they were going to take action against me or something. So I've restarted that ANI report. Cheers, Sarah 05:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, On my talk page I have posted a formal permission statement that donates content and photos copyrighted by the College of Mount St. Joseph for use the College of Mount St. Joseph article. A substantial body of these materials were added by me and subsequently deleted by Wikipedia's administrators back in 2009. Could you please let me know if this action is sufficient to have the content and photos restored? I'll be happy to take further steps if need be, please just let me know. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cliffwjenkins ( talk • contribs) 13:44, 14 June 2010 (UTC) Cliffwjenkins ( talk) 13:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I added a comment on the subpage you made. Thanks. Malke 2010 14:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Who did I attack? I simply mentioned that he was retired and frequently commented on American Idol articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.226.104.225 ( talk) 17:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
has now been posted! I'll send H an email letting him know we're good to go. ceran thor 19:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
Copyright again - can you have a look at File:FREJ.jpg - not sure that the licensing is correct but not sure which option to pick.
Thanks
Codf1977 ( talk) 16:20, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
...but just to be sure, is there any reason Way of the Warrior (video game)/deleted revisions 2010-06-06 is still around? VernoWhitney ( talk) 03:53, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
I tried adding Stephen Auerbach (whom I work with) to wikipedia, using a bio from his website that he gave me permission to use. You automatically deleted it. I responded with an email from my personal account, as well as one from auerfilms (stephen AUERback) with the template posted on wiki's website. I've got no response and his page still isn't up. Can you please help me. You can email me at: <e-mail redacted for privacy>
Thank you!!!!!!
Superdavit ( talk) 08:06, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
This is an important article on World Telugu Conference. Can I rewrite the article, if yes In what way. Please give me suggestion. Thank You.Dr. Rajasekhar A. 13:22, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
The IP (and self-declared "friend" of Loofus5) continues to blank User talk:63.226.104.225, claiming it is "their" user page, despite it being a shared IP. I've restored the version with the warnings and block notice as they're useful to other editors. Voceditenore ( talk) 06:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl, this is Survir. I just want to ask you that there is two Indian television actors with the same name Vishal Singh, how would you create pages on both if they have exactly the same name. Can you please help me. Thank you! Your friend, Survir ( talk) 21:45, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl.
I wonder if I can impose on your time. I was referred to you by user Invertzoo as the resident expert on all things copyright. I have a question regarding uploads to wikicommons that I can't seem to find a definitive answer for on the help pages. Forgive me if I have missed it. For a seaslug article I created over at the gastropod project, I came across a great set of photos on an external seaslug forum website, submitted by a member of the public which would be of great value to the article. I emailed the owner and asked him whether he would consider releasing them to CC so they could be included on wikipedia. He said he was very happy to do so and would send me whichever photos I liked. However taking a look over at wikicommons I noticed that it isn't just that easy and I can't necessarily do it on his behalf. I don't know that he would want to go to the effort of doing it himself either. Is there a way around this? Have you encountered this problem before yourself? Best wishes, Antarctic-adventurer (talk) 10:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
The images Title, Title and Title on this website are available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License. Attribution must be provided to [Whatever name he pleases].
Hi Moonriddengirl,if you have time would you please comment List_of_English_Electoral_Wards_by_Constituency,this AFD There are claims of copy vio. Off2riorob ( talk) 00:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
That is a very informative comment, respect and thanks. Off2riorob ( talk) 11:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Can you take a look and see if you ever received permission or anything for Livernois vehicle or from User talk:Shilaski? It's been repeatedly deleted under G12 but they claim they sent an email. A related article ( Livernois Vehicle Development) came up at SCV again today which appears to be the same situation. VernoWhitney ( talk) 15:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
You've Got Mail (<-- I love that film!). Theleftorium (talk) 20:11, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Our Web Editor, Rob Schroeder, has sent the permissions e-mail to the Wikimedia Foundation. Hoping we could take you up on your offer to expedite the permissions process and restoration of deleted copyrighted material. Thanks very much! Cliffwjenkins ( talk) 11:22, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your help. Yes, the images such as File:Ziv Art Building.jpg are all copyrighted and owned by the College, and would be released to the Wikimedia Foundation per today's permissions e-mail. Cliffwjenkins ( talk) 14:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
So I decided to see if OTRS still needs a hand and dropped my application off at meta:OTRS/volunteering#User:VernoWhitney. You asked me to let you know if I did, so here I am. :) VernoWhitney ( talk) 15:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Since I know you aren't busy dealing with other, larger, copyright matters <hah> could you take a look and see if LakeT ( talk · contribs)'s recent contributions to the copyright articles are problematic close paraphrases or not? I ran into them before while you were away, so I keep seeing the similarities and would like someone else to take a look at it (and nobody else was very interested in checking it the first time around). See for example this diff compared to the source. The contributions are better than they were a month ago, but I can't tell if they're clean enough. VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Copyright law was created by statute and all works created and published before copyright law was first established are in the public domain. In this historical context Paul Torremans describes copyright as a "little coral reef of private right jutting up from the ocean of the public domain." [1]
My apologies for seeking help here, since I have the ever-so-slight impression you may well be a smidgen busy, but I've got lost trying to find an appropriate forum for asking general advice on copyright problems. (Re-directing me to such a forum would be a much appreciated response.)
If you have the time, I have two queries: one about the WP:COPYLINK guidelines, and the other about licensing of people's own work
All the best. – Syncategoremata ( talk) 23:13, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Continued Problems Malke 2010: What to do?. Toddst1 ( talk) 00:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
In case you weren't aware, Malke has been blocked for a month. She has asked for you at User talk:Malke 2010#Message for Moonriddengirl. AniMate 05:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
... Talk of failed mentoring has been bandied about; has Malke been mentored? She says she has not. Others may have tried to advise her - I've done so myself - but mentoring is a collaborative arrangement that requires acceptance on both parts. ...
Hi Moonriddengirl, sorry to bother you as I'm sure that you are busy. I'm currently putting an article I wrote through a military history A class review. The article is No. 6 Commando and the ACR can be found here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/No. 6 Commando. In response to a request for some more relevant images, I have uploaded this one to Commons: [22]. To be honest I'm not sure if I've licenced it appropriately and have a bad feeling that I might have committed some horrible copyright breach. At the ACR they suggested contacting you for some advice on copyright tags. Would you mind taking a quick look at the Commons description page and letting me know if you think I've licenced it correctly or not? If I haven't, then it should probably be deleted and you have my humblest apologies. The background story to the image is that I scanned it from a book published in 1996, but the photograph is attributed in the book to the Imperial War Museum collection and was taken in April 1942. Thus I have licenced it PD-BritishGov. AustralianRupert ( talk) 14:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I have noticed that in the above Featured List, that the notes column for some buildings (KeyBank Tower (2), Liberty Tower (6), Centre City Building (8), Landing Apartments (9) and Schuster Performing Arts Center(11)) contains details which have been taken word-for-word from their respective pages on the Emporis.com website. If you have a spare minute could you take a look or point me in the direction of the correct venue to deal with this. -- 88.111.59.90 ( talk) 16:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
The article, List of tallest buildings in Dayton just (today) passed a two week long scrutiny by at least four administrators on Wikipedia's featured list candidates. Please see the closed archive for this nomination here: [24]. I am really confused that out of all of the people listed here, that they wouldn't have found the problems. And if this was such a big deal, then why did it pass the nomination as a FL? Thanks! Texas141 ( talk) 20:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I was looking through the CCI I just opened for Chewygum, and there appears to be a significant overlap of articles with more recent user LightAj ( talk · contribs) who was indef-blocked for copyvios a few weeks ago. See this history for example. Should I just make a general note for reviewers to make sure to check if copyvio has been reintroduced or should I run them through the contribution surveyor so I can make a note by the particular articles they worked on too? VernoWhitney ( talk) 18:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Dave1185 has asked me to comment on this. I've watchlisted many articles on the Philippino military for the last few years to protect them against a couple of persistent vandals, so have a degree of familiarity with these edits. While checkuser may very well prove otherwise, Chewygum and LightAj have somewhat different editing styles - copyvios aside, LightAj's textual edits were more productive. Articles on the Philippino military suffer from a high degree of vandalism, and I suspect that most of the editors who work on them are young and don't have a good grasp of the English-language. Nick-D ( talk) 07:54, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for showing me where I went wrong. All of these edits were made out of Wikipedia:Good faith and I did not understand what the issue was until you brought it to light for me. I will (from now on) be sure to watch the copyrights of material before I proceed to use editing purposes and I will take care to keep Wikipedia's copyright policy's more carefully when I edit. Thank you again for bringing this issue to light. I will now be a more productive editor as well as a more careful one. Texas141 ( talk) 20:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. You always know the right thing to say and you always make the most sense of anybody anywhere. Of course I've brought you these flowers: [25], but after such a long day, you need a good laugh. I found this on recent changes patrol and he is my favorite vandal. Notice the name of the article. I can just imagine this kid sitting at his computer screen, chomping on a potato chip as he does this: [26]. Thanks again. See ya on the mentor page. Malke 2010 00:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I saw you just blanked George Clark (American football coach) and relisted it under today's CP page, and it reminded me of some questions regarding user notification I had (some of which I also posted earlier this morning at WT:COPYCLEAN). Since the article was created in Dec '06 and the copyvio introduced then, does it really matter if we notify them or not? Also something I just noticed this morning about my own edits, I haven't been notifying users when I blank the page once they've placed an OTRS pending tag or otherwise asserted permission. Should I be? VernoWhitney ( talk) 15:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Certainly if it was placed by an IP. If it was placed by a now-inactive registered contributor some time ago and if I would have G12ed it when it was created, I may delete without notification, leaving User:Moonriddengirl/carticle behind. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I was going through a few suspected copyright violations and came across a website that is a clear mirror of Wikipedia, but not only doesn't credit Wikipedia, it also claims copyright. Is there anything that can or needs to be done in that situation? Hope you don't mind me asking you—you seem to be a bit of a guru in this area! -- Beloved Freak 22:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, thanks for the compliment on the edit. I've posted on our subpage. Malke 2010 14:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I received an email today from Ed Pegg complaining that many of the graph drawings in Commons:User:Koko90 are copied from MathWorld. (I don't think the files themselves have been copied, but the images have the same vertex layout and the same visual stylings, far more closely than would be likely by coincidence. In most cases one can find the corresponding images on MathWorld just by searching for the name of the graph depicted in each image.) Is there an equivalent of WP:CCI for commons? Or, if not, what is the best way to deal with an issue like this? I left a message on Koko90's Wikipedia page about this, but he hasn't edited for a month. — David Eppstein ( talk) 20:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I am sorry about this oversight, I am learning how to publish a new page, and trying to help a well deserving artist friend who is well known and should be included in Wikipedia. You may be able to verify this by looking at her Website that I was trying to paste part of the biography here in Wikipedia. I Understand what the problem is now, even so she would be delighted to be in Wikipedia. I know she will grant permission, what and how do I get this to you so that it can be published?
Please do not band me from been able to publish pages permanently. I wasn't sure this material was copyrighted. I made several attempts to publish this not knowing what was happening. It would be very helpful for all people involved (Editors & Yourself) if a very visible pop-up warning came about the first time one accidentally violates a rule, rather that stumbling across the sea of information and small links a person not knowing has to look for. This will allow an editor from getting banned while trying to find out what is preventing them from publishing. I am not sure I got banned all ready as I made several attempts before finding your message. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Louis De Pena ( talk • contribs) 19:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I see you are mentoring here. I only read this partially but I think I read enough because I was watching bits and pieces of the AN/i. Now to my question, I've not had any contact with this editor but have seen him/her postings at a couple of talk pages I watch. Would you and him/she like some extra eyes to help with the mentoring? I've never done a mentoring before but have always wanted to be second fiddle so I could learn how to help editors that need it. If not a good idea just let me know. I promise my feelings won't be hurt. :)
On a different note, how are you feeling? I hope you are better now, your edits seem to show you are feeling better and have a bit more energy but I'd still like to check in with you. :) Take care and be well, -- CrohnieGal Talk 22:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I've sent you an email. I'm also planning a post on the subpage today. If you're too busy or want to take a break, I'm not expecting an immediate reply. :D Malke 2010 16:46, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
You might want to see [27]. Dougweller ( talk) 20:09, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi MrG. Can you look into this and maybe add an OTRS template to the talk page? Thanks, Theleftorium (talk) 10:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Fine Arts | ||
For taking the time to not only remove copyrighted content but to provide well-written and well-sourced replacements, for the oh so many Renaissance and Baroque painting articles I've sent your direction over the past couple of months. VernoWhitney ( talk) 21:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC) |
Since I already turned this into a generic CCI thread, I figure I may as well continue: I just wrapped up the last little bit of another CCI and pursuant to our conversation at Wikipedia talk:Contributor copyright investigations#Confidentiality questions, I was trying to place it in the archive under the contributors name instead of the date, as far as I can tell, though, there isn't a way to specify a different subpage and title for the archive link (I've just put in a clunky substituted workaround for now). Do you know of a way to do it with the current template or should I look into adapting {{ CCI-closed}} to take an extra parameter? VernoWhitney ( talk) 16:28, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Since my last bot-related question to you got archived and this is somewhat CCI related, I'm shoehorning it in here: The way VWBot is currently running it thinks that articles from a CCI which were blanked on the day a CCI gets closed need to have their contributor notified (see User:VWBot/Trial#29 June 2010 for two examples from yesterday). I know that it isn't required to notify contributors about a CCI blanking, but is it a problem if the bot does it for whichever articles are blanked on the day their CCI is closed? I haven't been able to think of an easy way to account for closed CCIs yet, so I guess I just want your take on if it's a big enough problem to worry about for later. VernoWhitney ( talk) 03:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello! :-) Do you agree that an indefinite block is needed for Arpanmehra ( talk · contribs)? Theleftorium (talk) 13:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Won't archive anything unless there are about six five threads on the talk page. First time users who config with a short archive time, have only a few threads on their talk page and then wait for it to do its thing often think it's not working at all.
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16:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)One of the things I like best about Wikipedia, we have people with a lot of different talents around here. And that's a good thing, because it means I can spread my help requests around. Poor J. For a while there, I didn't know who else to turn to about this stuff. (Ha, Gwen! Now I have another resource!) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Raised here, it seems that our first edit for Tryton copied some content from the copyrighted web page for the software. How do we fix this? – xeno talk 16:37, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
No problem. We each have our strengths. (Or, I could say, tolerances.) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:16, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I wanted to extend my deep appreciation for your help, in "how to" vis-a-vis avoiding copying copyrigted material. My qeustion would then be, is it now, [with my last version AND your "fixing" part added] impossible, already, to revive the deleted al-Muthanna_club? Sallese ( talk) 16:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I have something to do on July 3rd. Don't forget, me. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Care to review this? There are threads related to it on the article talk page, User talk:Viriditas, User talk:Maile66, and User talk:Wildhartlivie. Jack Merridew 18:03, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay. You're welcome to comment, and I appreciate that (your statement that you find me helpful, that is), but I do wish I could offer some concrete assistance. It took me forever just to read through the ANI thread. I'm not sure if mediation would help, but I do kind of wonder if the ANI thread you link might not have suffered with a bit of sprawl, just like the actor RfC. If you feel like Jack is not giving you enough breathing room and the two of you can't negotiate some comfortable terms to make things more pleasant for both of you (seems from reading the whole ANI thread that you both feel frustrated), then outside intervention might be really a good idea. I am hesitant to suggest a Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct since it is by nature kind of adversarial (while mediation tries to bring you together). Really, it would be great if you could negotiate some parameters of interaction that would work for you. But you know better than I do what you two have tried and what has or hasn't worked. Beyond RfC I don't know what to suggest. Arbitration? Yikes. I'd go for the RfC first. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:47, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
This is why I wasn't going to be active at the RFC. I've watched this going on and have been called a meat puppet of WHL and more because of my open acknkowledgement of us being friends. I try to help keep WHL calm when she gets upset and/or is baited. She gets sick if she gets stressed out and as you know, I understand this so I try to help. I do it 'off' site via email where I feel more comfortable talking to her about the good, the bad and the ugly. I console her when things are bad for her but I also tell her what she should do differently to help the situation. It was actually working and she reached out to Jack for some coding help which he kindly did. That was a huge step from WHL to try and calm down the controversy. Unfortunately it didn't last. I still continue to talk to WHL when things get going which is how I found the thread at Fences and windows. I didn't have time to comment there but now I see Jack has again canvassed a bunch of editors, which I will also note are mostly administrators. Why did he put the same note on so many editors talk page, why so many administrators? Jack, why, what's the purpose? I am trying real hard to assume goo faith here but I have to admit I am have trouble doing so. WHL is an excellent editor. I admire the hard work she has done for the project. I wish I was half the editor she is and I mean this. Yet you accuse her of ownership issues and a slew of other things. You know if you keep saying this, do you think it makes it true? You also accuse her of having too many reverts even after she told you multiple times that she does recent patrol duty which is usually a lot of reverting of vandals. I do recent patrol too and I also do a lot of reverting. Why does this matter? What I would love to see is polite conversation without assuming someone has more or less knowledge in any area. I too reverted you a few times when you changed tables because it was under discussion and you said you wouldn't touch any tables, yet you did. I'm not going to get into any more of the accusation flying around. Basically what I would like to say is that if I can help either of you at least be polite and civil with each, something I think I am really good at, I am available. I talk with WHL via email because then we are free to say what we want and hash things out. Jack if you want to do this too, I am more then welcoming you to. I would really love this whole thing to stop already since it's gotten really old for all of us. So if you or anyone wants to chat with me please feel free to first ping my talk page. If things need to go to email then fine I'll say if it's ok to do so. I hope my long babble helps a little. :) MRG, I haven't commented much on the RFC but I promise to take a look at what your question is and give you a reply hopefully tomorrow (I'm going to lie down after I save this). Jack, please if you wouldn't mind, would you go to the others that you posted to about this and kill the postings as a gester of wanting to calm the waters. That would be appreciated I'm sure. We don't need more conversations like this one and the one at Fences and windows. Thanks in advance to you all, -- CrohnieGal Talk 23:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)