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Thank you for your response. Just organising image of registered Warlander horse for you now. It will have a copyright release on it for use on Wikipedia by owner and photographer so will be no rights reserved. How do I get it to you when I get it?
For the references where the Warlander name came from (not War horses, but named after a human being) go to: http://warlanderstudbooksociety.com.au/#/breed-history/4572174443 and click 'download history of the Warlander' link
The Warlander name is also covered at founder of the breed's site (which is already a reference on Warlander page) - http://www.warlander.com.au/warlanderhistory.htm
With regards to Atavism in Warlander horses, all I can tell you is I am the registrar of the Warlander Studbook (global) and there are no Warlander horses registered in the studbook that have any genetic issues or have Atavism, even in the third generation. The Warlander has a bigger genetic pool than all of its base breeds.
The International Warlander Registry and Society that is linked at the bottom of the page has been closed since 2012. This needs to be deleted completely and the new global studbook is called Warlander Studbook Society and its address is www.warlanderstudbooksociety.com.au
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Hello, I am clearly clueless when it comes to this subject, but i would like to enrich the articles with some videos on this subject. Can you please guide me to some appropriate footage you would like to see on those articles? Best Matanya ( talk) 19:15, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montanabw -- I wanted to thank you for your continuing attention to Wikipedia:Navigation templates. I'm going to try hard to keep any further discussion good humored and focused on the issue at hand. In other words "common sense manners". We'll see what happens. all best! Lockley ( talk) 02:06, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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just so you know. Hope your well! Cassianto Talk 18:51, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi:
If Talk:Race (biology) is a place you've been around for a while, does the behavior of this editor remind you of any of the editors who were banned, such as Captain Occam, Ferragho the Assassin or Mikemikev? I'm not very familiar with their styles.
Best, BMK ( talk) 21:41, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
@ Beyond My Ken:, unfortunately, I am not very familiar with them, I think I may have tangled briefly with Occam or Mikemikev, but not enough to catch the style. That said, if you want to point me to some examples, I'll take a peek. If I see a pattern, I'll let you know. Montanabw (talk) 21:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montana,
I noticed that you reverted my removal of the hatnote from the Horse grooming article with the edit summary "IAR, this is one where people may well find themselves wanting to go back to the dab." Why do you believe that readers would want to go to the disambiguation page from this article? I would think that a "See also" section would better provide any functionality you are envisioning. The guidelines are clear on this point, and for good reason; no one is going to end up on this page by accident when looking for an article on another kind of grooming. What are your thoughts?
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Having puzzled together over the Zayyat clan, I thought of you tonight reading this. Hope all's well! — Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 02:38, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
@ Vesuvius Dogg: Wow! That is fascinating! Great find! Montanabw (talk) 17:15, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
A user has made large changes to this article based on (to me) unclear criteria. I reverted it all so it can be discussed. Any input is welcome. Rmhermen ( talk) 17:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
RE; Equine Gastric Ulcer Syndrome", what I have prepared is virtually a total re-write since the majority of the current version is just too difficult to spot edit to my satisfaction. I hope this allowed according to Wikipedia protocol. ( EquiDocG ( talk) 20:07, 24 June 2015 (UTC))
Hi Mbw thanks so much for coming over to DRN. You're pretty sharp so you've probably already noticed this....... but I'll point this out anyway. The filing party BeeCeePhoto hasn't participated yet and Robco311 is not a listed party (although they could be added). That said, any discussion between any interested parties (even if BeeCeePhoto doesn't show) can be valuable in moving a dispute forward. So use your best judgement. DRN is very flexible and we are not stuck on procedures we just want to help people move towards resolution in any way we can. Thanks again for all your help! Best, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:32, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
@ Keithbob:, if you go into the editing window Robco311 is BeeCeePhoto, why he's signing with a different name is beyond me, but it's the same user. Montanabw (talk) 19:30, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Sure, Montanabw. It's ok. Tags aren't badges of shame or anything. If you were going to fix it, I think it might've made more sense to just do that instead of reverting me. An unreferenced article should generally be tagged as such. It feels a bit like you're shooting the messenger here. -- BDD ( talk) 20:06, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Dear Montanabw,
You will recall the long ant time-consuming discussion, which happened in the past about this concern.
Nikkimaria is doing it again, when I tried to improve the content of the infoboxes of the two pages Rondo in C minor (Bruckner) and Intermezzo in D minor (Bruckner), which she originally split from other articles. See the (sterile) discussion which is starting again on the talk pages of these two pages. Please advise.
I am sorry to disturb you again with this concern. Best regards, -- Réginald alias Meneerke bloem ( To reply) 09:40, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montana, a recent Wikimedia blog post included two of your articles. I'd love to get your feedback on the general concept, if you have the time! Ed Erhart (WMF) ( talk) 10:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
I just wanted to leave you a note to apologise for if I seemed a bit off in my conduct here; I know I can sometimes seem a bit crusty and I think I wasn't too polite in a couple of the edit summaries. I hope you'll forgive me and look forward to continuing the discussion on the talk page. It's a fine article, incidentally, thanks! Hope you're well. Cheers, — Cliftonian (talk) 06:20, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Today I passed a review for my first GA article. It took some hard work, but was well worth it. Thanks for the information and personal experience you gave me at the beginning. I know we didn't get off to the best start, but I'm glad you put up with me long enough for me to gain a little more perspective. I hope everything goes well with you, and I'll be happy to support your eventual bid to be an admin. Peace. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 03:41, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
If you DO decide to stand for admin (and I advise against it) please get hold of me somehow so I can come in and comment. You're one of the few people not an admin that I know[1] would be good at it. ++ Lar: t/ c 23:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
1 - this could just be because I no longer know anyone here.... or hardly, anyway.
I think there is a big problem with en:wp and admin burnout is a symptom. Unlike when I first went dormant, I think WMF is aware, and is working to correct it. But how do you correct a culture, working from above, that prides itself on consensus driven actions and is organized bottom up? It's going to be a hard nut to crack. I'd actually advise waiting. Why burn yourself out now, trying to stop the tide, as the forces arrayed at your side dwindle? Perhaps better to have the dike break, and disaster occur, followed by radical change. But I don't know. You'd get my passionate support. The problem is that... that support may damage your chances more than it helps. I've done very little here for years, although I am glad I stil have my bit.++ Lar: t/ c 15:44, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi, just dropped you an email about RfA ... I need to do a bit more research but provisionally I'd be happy to put my name forward as nominator. I wanted to do this off-wiki as I'm sure if you've got skellies you'd rather not talk about them in full public view. PS: Admins get hauled off to ANI day in day out, it's part of the job. Just because somebody cries "abusive admin!", doesn't mean it's true (though equally it doesn't mean it's false) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:35, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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Yo Monty, I saw you've uploaded quite a deal of photos from Flickr (hundreds?). Please help with categorizing them, now they're bulking up the category:Horses. You're far more knowledgeable than me about TB racing and such, and many photos seem to be related to it. -- Pitke ( talk) 21:16, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Will do; thought I had the upload set to do that automatically, but must have grabbed Flickr tags. Yes, if they look like horse racing, it will be Thoroughbreds, mostly USA and UK (may have found some from Asia... which will be obvious by script) Montanabw (talk) 17:45, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Please see HERE. VictoriaGrayson Talk 23:41, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Losing the kahako is discussed in the talk page. You said you were there for the equestrian portion of the article. I just never took it out.-- Mark Miller ( talk) 07:00, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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Been a bit since we have chatted, but I have been hip deep in creating articles about the women from the Primer Congreso Interamericano. Totally impressive bunch of women. At any rate, following your mentorship steps, I have been helping a newbie that seems to have promise. User: EmilyvstheGorn. She had her first DKY today. It was kind of brutal and now she has a file up for deletion. Can you keep any eye on her from time to time? We need to do a better job of encouraging promising newbies. Hope all is well with you. SusunW ( talk) 13:28, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
American Pharoah is at FAC and languishing. Anyone want to peek at it? Thanks! Montanabw (talk) 04:45, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, re this revert. My edit was to text that I had written; none of my sources use the term "bench" and it was my bad choice of wording in the first place. When editing yesterday, I wanted to remove the impression that the seat was a wooden bench without cushions or other padding - in fact the grooms' seats in railway horseboxes were pretty much the same as a normal seat in a passenger train of the period, the main difference was that there was only one row of seats facing one way, instead of two rows facing each other like this. I have a horsebox drawing scaled at 2+1⁄2 mm: 1 foot, and the seat measures 15 mm wide on the drawing, which is six feet on the real thing. It doesn't show armrests (folding or otherwise) which would indicate exactly how many people it was intended for; but a 6-ft seat would have been a tight squeeze for four normal-sized people, even with armrests folded up. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 08:02, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
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LOL! Montanabw (talk) 06:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Don't let the argumentum ad baculum types get to ya... GregJackP Boomer! 07:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
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There is clearly one to keep an eye on with regard to that article. Just search its talk page for "Marxist". — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 01:20, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Montanabw, I see you have the account creator bit. I've recently been recruited to be the technical adviser for an edit-a-thon to be held at a local museum, probably in October. My impression is that most of the volunteers there are going to be newcomers who may not have accounts before that day. I've advised the organizers at the museum to try to encourage volunteers to register accounts in advance, but we're surely going to have some who don't do that. I understand that you can, as a person with the bit, waive the 6-registrations per 24-hour rule at Special:CreateAccount. How does that work? Is it waived by IP address or does it have to be done on an account-by-account basis? Would you be able to do it for us in advance or does it have to be done in real time on the date of the event? Best regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 17:26, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey I tried to clarify that the Silver Shadows Shiek is a black horse on the Percheron page, you fairly removed my edit. I have a scan of the official pedigree document from Percheron Association. Seems a bit overboard to addthat as an image on the wiki page... any thoughts on how i can use that as a source/citation? The horse was also discussed in that year's issue of the official program of the international Percheron association.
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Thank you! Yippee. Okay, the only downside to my first GA is sending it to DYK. But, I learned a lot from it. When Dr. B said 10K in chars I thought he was out of his head. Actresses, sure, but an obscure, though important, doctor with all Spanish sources? As crazy as it was to type those 20 pages for you, it helped, because I pulled a lot of little tidbits in and then Ian and Dr. B worked it over. I think I shall just enjoy for a few days that it is approved before I send it to the cabal. SusunW ( talk) 05:16, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
@ SusunW:: Looks like you have helpers! Thanks, Gerda! Montanabw (talk) 03:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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Hey, Montanbw, I just didn't want you to think I was ignoring your offer over at Harej's talk page. You're right that the Amon Carter Museum of American Art has a substantial collection of Russells (and Remingtons) and, indeed, it was originally named the Amon Carter Museum of Western Art and from its founding in 1961 until 1967 only focused on art of the American West; it began expanding its collection to include 19th and 20th century American art in 1967 and was renamed to its current name in 2010. When's your event? Ours is October 10. Have you done one before? I've not and I'm feeling my way along on this one. Best regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 16:08, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I just found another idiom that I did not realize was horsey: to take something "in stride". To quote The American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms: "This idiom alludes to a horse clearing an obstacle without checking its stride. [c. 1900]". [10] -- Softlavender ( talk) 07:49, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Yep! Maybe we should start a List of equestrian-based idioms! LOL! (But seriously, maybe we should!) Montanabw (talk) 18:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes... Ride over 'em roughshod! White Arabian mare ( talk) 22:12, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
I saw where you answered my post on the Arabian horse talk page about the foal temperaments. Well, I found my source. It was in an October 1999 issue of Western Horseman, the old All-Breed Issue where they published reports from each major breed association. The statement about foal temperaments was in the Arabian article, which was described as being written by the IAHA director of marketing. (Of course that was before the IAHA merged with the Arabian Horse Registry of America.) I have the magazine in my house. Feel free to check out my talk page anytime. I have several horse topics up there. White Arabian mare ( talk) 16:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare White Arabian mare ( talk) 16:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
The track closed, so are all the races that used to be held there no more? ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:40, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Is it Hollywood Park or Santa Anita where they hold the Breeders' Cup races? I heard they would be at Keeneland this year. White Arabian mare ( talk) 21:37, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
How can I add a picture (preferably of a white Arabian mare) to my user page? I don't have one on my phone. Can I use one from Google or what? White Arabian mare ( talk) 18:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks White Arabian mare ( talk) 20:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Picture does not appear. I typed in the code and it turned red but no picture appeared. White Arabian mare ( talk) 21:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
OK, I'm going to try it again. By the way I know about the 'white' horses but I decided white would sound better than 'gray Arabian mare'. As a kid I always called them that because I didn't know better. I explained my name on my talk page if anybody wants to read it. White Arabian mare ( talk) 21:25, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Picture appeared. I live on top of a mountain and have weird Internet, so that may have had something to do with it. :P White Arabian mare ( talk) 21:34, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
was looking at Lincoln Chaffee's Wikipedia article and after graduating from Brown he headed out to Montana, graduated from MSU-Bozeman, and then began to ply his trade as a farrier, at various harness racetracks. Really...:-) Freddiem ( talk) 21:29, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Heh, ah Livingston... the celebrities move in, the normal people move out... though maybe Watts will return now that he's a celebrity! LOL!
I put things back the way they were in the Basin article pending further thought. User:Niagara has offered to help track down actual Basin stats supported by government sources. Finetooth ( talk) 16:48, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Rosie said you are collecting info on women for an edit-a-thon on Montana women. I ran across this article Montana female photographers awhile back and found it interesting. Haven't decided if there is enough there for bios or what--maybe women's employment options on the frontier. Only one of them seems to have her own bio on Wikipedia. SusunW ( talk) 02:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
A race, California Cup Distaff that according to this source [11] hasn't been raced since 2012. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:42, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
@ WilliamJE:, what I'm getting is that the California Cup Distaff (a turf race)apparently merged into the (California) Sunshine Millions Filly and Mare Turf Sprint and that there is a Cal Cup Derby and Oaks now too, but I think on dirt [12] horseracingnation. com/stakes/California_Cup_Distaff_H.
What's it ambiguous with? Per WP:NAMB, I cannot see the point of a hatnote since there is nothing on Cayuse that could be confused with "Cayuse horse". — Xezbeth ( talk) 07:55, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
The horse is actually WP:PRIMARY in terms of common use, that said, I prefer to give a nod to the lesser-known ethnic group. Montanabw (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
You said there were plenty of horse subjects that need articles or rewriting. Well, I'll help if I know anything about them. Which ones need it the most? White Arabian mare ( talk) 02:14, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
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See Moonsell on Tibetan Buddhism talk. VictoriaGrayson Talk 19:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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You just deleted my comment here. That's my comment and you shouldn't even been changing it. If you do it again I'll make a report at WP:ANI. Curb Chain ( talk) 22:58, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montana, well, you did ask for it: I now have an at FAC ripe for reviewing! Should you have any thoughts or comments they will, of course, be most welcome. Sorry there is no horse angle on this one, but the next one in the series (now at PR) at least has a trip to a fixed horse race at Saratoga to look forward to! All the best – SchroCat ( talk) 15:21, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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pull the upset this afternoon. Freddiem ( talk) 23:22, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Interesting how the east-west sectional rivalry in horse racing is alive and well. And so weird. Montanabw (talk) 05:10, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing up some of those articles with the giant blockquotes. Out of curiosity, do you have access to the original source of the placard text? I wasn't comfortable rewriting the text without access to the source itself, but I might be able to help if I had the source. (Even without it, I might rewrite some from the NRHP nominations, which I do have access to - I just wanted to temporarily do something about all the excessively copied and mis-assessed articles, since there were a lot of them and it will take a while to rewrite all of them.) TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 13:54, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Montanabw. I unlinked the article from Coupling, which as best I can tell has nothing to say about the meaning of "coupling" in the confirmation of a horse. You reverted this; I reverted it back. My edit comment is garbled so I'll elaborate here.
I don’t know what the meaning of "coupling" is in this article. (I did make an attempt to find out but came up empty.) If you know, please fix this passage with either a wlink or a brief definition, maybe in parentheses.
If you don't know either, then I suggest that it's best to leave the word unlinked rather than leaving it with a link to machine couplings. — ℜob C. alias ALAROB 00:48, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh — you mentioned fixing the dab, but there is no dab fix. Or if there is, I am a greenhorn and could not find it. If you ment that I should edit the article to include the horsey definition of "coupling," well, I'd be glad to if not for my ignorance. :) — ℜob C. alias ALAROB 00:49, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Coupling in horse talk refers to the way the horse is put together--a Thoroughbred has 'loose' coupling, with a long lanky body, while a Haflinger has 'tight' coupling, with a short stout body. Tennessee Walkers tend to be fairly loose now, but they were totally different years ago, with a shorter build and more muscle. (Look at the pictures in the linked articles to see the difference.) :) White Arabian mare ( talk) 02:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Try this, there's nothing like it! Bishonen | talk 18:16, 8 September 2015 (UTC).
I think you'll be pleased by the progress so far in sourcing and distinguishing Race (biology). As you can see, it's really, really complex (and not all of the complexity is even in there yet). If I'm remembering it correctly so far: A "race" in this sense is also a "biological race" (except in mycology), and more specifically, a "physiological race" is also a "biological form", and (in mycology) a "biological race", and (if formatted differently) a "forma specialis" (but neither a "forma specialis" nor a "biological form" are a "forma" or "form" in either botany or zoology). Etc.. I couldn't make this stuff up. It's no wonder the attempt to establish a uniform nomenclature code fell apart. I sure hope they try again, and stick with it until it happens.
Anyway, I added further clarification that this doesn't mean "breed", and that usage in English is obsolete, while also noting that the cognate forms in some languages are sometimes used that way (i.e., beware mistranslation).
Peter coxhead is right that the article needs a section on how the usage has changed over time, and this would dovetail with my early idea to tie the Victorian-to-mid-century usage to what is being better and better covered at Race (human categorization)#Early taxonomic models. We probably need only touch on that, and direct the reader there for that material, hopefully also shunting any further trolling in that direction, where that page is watchlisted by people better prepared for it. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 17:14, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
@ SMcCandlish: That sounds like excellent progress and a good example of teaching the controversy. If you want a hand on the historical side, that is more my thing than the science side, so feel free to ping me if needed. Montanabw (talk) 18:35, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Hiya - don't worry, this is not a rant. I was a little concerned at your last posting on ANI that Jytdog and I should stay off each others Talk pages. I have not been on his Talk page since he asked me not to, and I have no intention to. However, Jytdog has twice posted on mine since I asked. I wonder if there is a way that this could be made clearer, because your comment seems to imply I am posting to his talk page. This might be rather tricky now the thread has closed. This is a really minor point so if it can't be done, we can let it slide. All the best.DrChrissy (talk) 20:16, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
I requested two new horse-themed userboxes and User:Ahunt was kind enough to create them. Here they are:
This user loves Tennessee Walking Horses. |
This user loves Arabian horses. |
If you want them the codes are User:Ahunt/Tennessee Walking Horse and User:Ahunt/Arabian. Thought you might be intetested. ☺
White Arabian mare ( talk) 20:33, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm surprised there are not more horsey ones. I got both of them, as well as one for Coonhounds and one for Great Pyrenees dogs...neither of them had userboxes either, although most of the popular dog breeds had a box. White Arabian mare ( talk) 01:48, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you OODLES for the horsie! I seem to have made it my wiki thing to at least keep all race results up to date, as well as ferreting out missing information for years past. It satisfies the Virgo in me. Stellabystarlight ( talk) 04:25, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Hey, I wrote the section on bareback pads and added it to Talk:bareback in the sandbox area for you to review. Let me know if you think it needs anything else. 🏇 White Arabian mare ( talk) 20:29, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Move discussion may be of interest: Talk:Jumping_(horse)#Requested_move_10_September_2015. Montanabw (talk) 05:26, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Hey, it's a long time I'm waiting for a response from a volunteer to review Sahifah of al-Ridha which is nominated for GA in January!!! How can it be that the article is not listed here? Mhhossein ( talk) 12:55, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Montanabw, just a reminder that you opened this nomination over two weeks ago, but have yet to return with your review. Please do so as soon as possible. Many thanks! BlueMoonset ( talk) 16:45, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, hope you are well :o) Finally, I have got a FREE image of a registered Warlander Horse to replace the image that is presently on the Warlander page. Just to verify, the horse presently pictured is not a registered Warlander horse, nor can the studbook verify that it is even a Warlander. It certainly does not look anything like one. I have had a go at uploading the file myself to Wikipedia and Commons. It is at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Warlander_Horse.jpeg Don't know if it will work though, but I had a go. I have also emailed the release saying it is a FREE image to use on Wikipedia and have received a ticket number. Hope I have done it right. Can you please look out for this and help if I have stuffed up. Many thanks Karen - Secret Squirrel 101 Secret Squirrel 101 ( talk) 01:30, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that I found your responses to RfA questions substantive and specific, despite the seemingly over-critical perspective of some users. I supported your RfA. -- JustBerry ( talk) 12:29, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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For maintaining the clarity, intelligence and thoughtfulness of your comments even in the present environment of your RfA. Very refreshing and informative. Littleolive oil ( talk) 03:40, 20 September 2015 (UTC) |
Tis live Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Montanabw - good luck! Ϣere SpielChequers 23:25, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks so much, WSC! Montanabw (talk) 23:46, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
You'll want to remove outdated information from
User:Montanabw/ANI sandbox.
NE Ent 11:30, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 16:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Thanks for the food! I'm needing the nutrition! This is a real marathon, isn't it? I can't say I wasn't warned by people like Drmies, Short Brigade Harvester Boris, and Ealdgyth that I was asking for a lot of stress! So far, though, I haven't really been terribly surprised. (a couple !votes I didn't expect in both directions, but on the balance the pleasant surprises and unpleasant surprises have balanced each other out) Montanabw (talk) 18:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. There were 80+ support !votes last time I checked, a couple hours ago.😊 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:17, 18 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Montanabw, I realize that I haven't been a strong supporter of you in your RfA but I just wanted to say that the process has its ups and downs and voting comes in waves. I swear on the third day of my RfA, when the Opposes started coming in, I was ready to withdraw. But I took the weekend off and when I came back to check on it on Sunday night, I had decided I wanted to see the process all the way through.
The Supports come in on the first day, the next day come the Opposes and it's the fence-sitters who vote towards the end of the 7 day period who can tilt your candidacy one way or the other. I'm not saying that your experience is anything like mine was, I just know what it's like to see your percentage of support fall from the 90s to the 70s and it's not a pleasant experience. I encourage you to take a brief break from the entire process, do something fun this weekend and keep your spirits up.
Liz
Read!
Talk! 22:31, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Beyond the matter what's appropriate and not for an encyclopedia article (versus "Picture Magazine", or a coloring book), the idea of playing house with quote box background colors as decoration is a poor idea from even an artistic standpoint - not a good one. (But I don't suppose you'd understand why not, even if I explained it. Nor do I expect you'd have any interest to hear, especially from me, who you've castigated on your "enemies over on that side" arbitrary division line.) p.s. Did you know that you put a chilling effect on articles you've decided you WP:OWN? I suspect that is one reason multiple editors in your RfA have stated they avoid contact with you. Ditto. IHTS ( talk) 04:06, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Leave the California Chrome article alone. The colored quote boxes are there for a purpose and add to the article (and before you start yelling at me, I am an artist!). Also, Montanabw is under a lot of stress right now, and you appear to just be out to stir up trouble while she is occupied with other things. Please STOP. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
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( talk page stalker) Regarding this: No one moderates RfA. It is, in effect, an anarchy. If that oppose !vote really raises RL concerns, your best bet would be to email the functionaries mailing list, at functionaries-en to discuss the possibility of oversight. This includes ArbCom as well as other users who may be able to help you. Both outing and potentially libelous content qualify for oversight. If you can demonstrate that he has either revealed nonpublic personal information about you, or that he's actually trying to discredit you with falsehoods (i.e. lying), those would be the folks to contact. Regards, Swarm ♠ 05:16, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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I think your demeanor during your arduous Rfa has been exemplary so this is a barnstar that is well deserved. MONGO 05:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC) |
I just want to give you encouragement (and brats and beer). Hang in there kid. GregJackP Boomer! 15:58, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montanabw, I have recently voted in favour of you because of your large positive contributions to Wikipedia. Recently I went through your RfA process and saw there were raise of opposition because of your involvement in WP:BATTLEGROUND, WP:AfD and WP:ANI has caused poor record in assuming good faith, Use of Administrative tools are greater responsibility and serious decision-making tasks which request to have honest editor. Since you had a poor record in voting for WP:AfD, arguing with other editors in ANI and war editing has caused many other voters to have their opinion changed when the pieces of evidence popped up in the RfA process and all went to vote against you. This very regretful to hear what's happening. In an event if your RfA fails to have a majority you can apply for RfA in the future once you have learned the lesson from the voters who voted against you. But in the meantime there are 3 days more ahead to the deadline of voting, Hopefully, there will be a miracle to have your RfA passed. Wish you a good luck! ♔ MONARCH Talk to me 01:13, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
I have promised to stay here to the end, and, frankly, I don't think content creators are valued enough overall. One reason I filed is because I think more content creators need to be admins. I was heartened by all the good words said about content creation, but I hope that those words translate into actions when content disputes arise; many people work very hard to produce good content only to deal with WP:CHEESE issues. Montanabw (talk) 05:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! That particular article had previous problems with editors conflating the issues surrounding humans with those involving the biological concept; the bottom line is that those issues would up being addressed and the article itself is getting redone by people who seem to be willing to do the tough work of researching the question thoroughly. My input there is not needed at this point, so I've unwatched the article (5,809 now...) Montanabw (talk) 23:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montanabw. I see you love horses. So do I. I'm writing to you about "saddling up". I don't know the proper term, but I know there's a procedure, and was wondering if you would maybe be interested in making a video of the procedure. I know Wikipedia is not a "how-to", but visitors would surely be interested in that. Some things are hard to describe with words. Do we have such videos? What do you think?
And I know I've admitted at some Wikipedia talkpage to, while a kid, feeding a caterpillar to a horse. Please don't hold that against me. I was just a kid. I really do love horses.
Best, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 12:45, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
By the way, I started Feedbag back in 2012 and you made a nice edit and edit summary. :) Thank you for that! :) Ka-ka-clip Ka-ka-clip Ka-ka-clip K-ka-k-klip-k-klip....clippity-clop....clop....clop...........clop. "Whinny". :) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 13:01, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
The proper term is "tacking up"--you're very close!☺ There may already be some kind of video of that on Commons, so you may want to check there first. I know there are some pictures of tacking up, maybe they have a video too. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:17, 23 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
ADD: Don't worry about feeding the caterpillar to the horse so long as it was a one-time thing. There's no telling what kind of bugs horses inadvertently eat when they're grazing anyway! White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 23:49, 23 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Oh, I thought there was one.😛 I posted a brief run-through of tacking up on Talk:Horse tack#Tacking up procedure. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:08, 24 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
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Thank you for your contributions to horse and equestrianism-related articles: this is clearly a topic in which you are very experienced, and to which you have made valuable contributions. I wish you the best of luck for the future. Rubbish computer 16:40, 24 September 2015 (UTC) |
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All I ask for is an apology and admission that you were wrong... a mere hours after your Rfa just failed -- seems to me that forming a branch, olive or otherwise, into a wikt:cudgel isn't very much of a peace offering ... Montanabw, I highly recommend my unpatented (CC By SA 3.0) Unilateral interaction ban. NE Ent 11:56, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
It would seem that the timing and phrasing of the "olive branch" proffer is very slightly discordant with the usual meaning of the term. Collect ( talk) 13:56, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I came here in a sincere effort to make peace with MBW, but she's chosen to deny me the one thing I wanted and deserved: an apology. I think it's telling that at the failed RfA the word "battle" occurs 38 times; "passion" occurs 27 times; "partisan" occurs 12 times; "bias" appears 8 times. The word "apology"; however, gets zero hits. "Mistake" occurs there 24 times, and MBW used it 8 times, and while "sorry" appears there 17 times, it was not once uttered by MBW, but instead came mostly from her opposition. I'm not a sock, and I've never socked, so it was wrong to persecute me as one for several months on end with no SPI. That much is self-evident, and policy supports my positon. I think people who refuse to apologize to those they've clearly wronged cannot be trusted with a position of power. It speaks to a very basic level of self-awareness and maturity that she's apparently lacking. More importantly this shows MBW's poor understanding of policy, which is just one of many reasons she is not suited for adminship. If MBW cannot bring herself to apologize to me for making untold numbers of unfounded accusations over the course of several months and at numerous inappropriate venues, there is nothing left for me to discuss with her. RO (talk) 17:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Note: User:Knowledgekid87 appears to have deleted a posting they made here. It is generally considered very bad form to edit another User's Talk page.DrChrissy (talk) 19:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
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I'm leaving an early closing summary at the RfA. It is NOT a withdrawal, I'm just going to be real busy tomorrow.
I decided to go with a friendly tone and a little bit of cowboy humor. If it provokes any more !opposes, that will be sad, but perhaps it will move a couple of neutrals into the !support column too.
I can't express enough thanks to all of you on this thread for the hand-holding, thoughful insights and peeling me off the ceiling. We all knew this one was not real likely to succeed, but I'm hoping I did well enough to set up for a second round sometime next spring. Montanabw (talk) 07:58, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Sorry your RfA did not succeed. Best wishes.
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Thanks, Hawkeye!
OK, time for fun! I asked Bella what she thought of how the RfA process goes. Her reply was loquacious but requires further interpretation. Ideas, anyone? Montanabw (talk) 05:05, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Maybe she's thinking "Back off, opposing users, before you get a set of horse teeth marks on your butt". Mine always gets that expression when he's about to bite.🐴 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
"Humans are weird. I would get less grief I went through RFU" Bella, as lip read by Ϣere SpielChequers 20:39, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi! I am editing Pain in fish at the moment and came across this reference to horses! In 2015, it was reported that some species ( rat, mouse, rabbit, cat and horse) adopt a facial expression in response to a noxious stimulus that is consistent with the expression of humans. [1] Very interesting!
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DrChrissy (talk) 12:03, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
When I put the word 'pad' in the Racking Horse article, I was just using the term I've always heard. Where I live, the term 'pad' is used to refer to the whole thing that's put on the foot to enhance the action; plastic stacks, shoe, everything. (People in the south are too lazy to say 'performance package' every 5 minutes...they don't say "Bubba shod the horse with performance packages", they say, "Bubba shod the horse with pads".) So, I grew up thinking everybody used it that way. I guess it's sort of a slang term.😕 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 22:09, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Boy horse? Better make that unneutered boy horse. ;) About the gait too, the 'show walk' is breed-specific; it's a kind of fast lateral walk really close to the Tennessee Walker's flat walk. (Funny story: I was once at a horse show with both racking and western classes. The announcer got scrambled during a Quarter Horse western pleasure class and told them to show walk. One of the trainers who had students showing leaned over the arena fence and yelled, "Just don't tell 'em to rack on!") White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 02:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
We have a lot of small shows like that. At the same show as the 'rack on' fiasco, there was only one entrant in men's open racking, and the judge and announcer messed with him (they knew him pretty well) for a couple of minutes by telling him he got second place before they finally gave him the blue ribbon. 😃 It's a small town. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 13:36, 26 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I'm sorry, I got sidetracked by urgent RL issues in the middle of closing your RfA and didn't get here as soon as I'd have liked. Thank you for running for admin. It's not a fun process, even for successful candidates and it takes courage to apply and open oneself to criticism. I'd encourage you to consider the opposes and try again at a suitable point in time. Good luck and thank you again. -- Dweller ( talk) 09:41, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Dear Montanabw. Just a few lines ||/--_=| late and little, to say I'm sorry to have missed your RfA. I don't go there much at all because it only ends up irritating and/or depressing me (and/or I piss someone off); that your bid failed is by me evidence of one seriously busted system. Anyway, you have my admiration and my thanks - and my sincere regret that I couldn't put them where and when it mattered. With bestest wishes, Plutonium27 ( talk) 12:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
I think this clip sums it up. And I'm the gopher! [21].
Never knew this was out there! I'm 283 on the top 1000 list. Thank you, talk page stalkers! Montanabw (talk) 21:09, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
phabricator:T59617#1664891 is blocking updates to the most-watched users ( configuration) database report. I'm poking around to see what's needed to get the data re-exposed. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 01:55, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm just gonna put a small chart below since I want to compare...
User | Total watchers | Recent visitor watchers | Total revisions | Recent revisions |
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Ched | 218 | 77 | 2,186 | 1 |
Dennis Brown | 420 | 201 | 15,739 | 328 |
Eric Corbett | 663 | 281 | 45,680 | 77 |
Gerda Arendt | 243 | 128 | 11,605 | 125 |
iridescent | 371 | 93 | 14,846 | 119 |
Jimbo Wales | 3,281 | 657 | 122,149 | 1,183 |
Montanabw | 295 | 144 | 9,249 | 231 |
MZMcBride | 444 | 74 | 9,272 | 11 |
Note: these stats are for user talk pages, not user pages. I also created this table by hand, so while I think I didn't screw up the copying and pasting from the info action's output, I make no guarantees. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 03:08, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Right, this is why I made a note that these stats covered user talk pages, not user pages. :-) For overall page watchers, the number will always be identical for the two pages, as you can't watch a subject-space page without also watching its associated talk page. But I believe the recent visitors watchers stat is tied to the specific page title, as are the revisions stats, of course. "User:Iridescent" is a redirect, which may explain why its stat is screwy. User:Newyorkbrad is probably a decent example, with 256 recent visitors watchers, while User talk:Newyorkbrad has 171 recent visitors watchers. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 13:26, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm number 258 ;-) -- Dweller ( talk) 12:33, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Two things: (well of course there is also "sorry your RfA failed") ... first, even after not being very active for a very long time I apparently still have a lot of watchers, and second, isn't this the centiJimbo metric? I forget. Hang in there, this too shall pass. ++ Lar: t/ c 15:19, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
no indication whatsoever that that means the "current" version of the page, you are aware that when I make an improbable sounding claim like that it's because I have a reason for making it? "It counts watchers that have visited that page since the last edit or that have visited the page at least $wgWatchersMaxAge before last edit", if you want chapter-and-verse from the Mediawiki documentation. On en-wiki, $wgWatchersMaxAge is currently set to 180 days; thus, the figure you're seeing is the number of people who've viewed the page in the last 180 days, plus the number of people who've viewed the most recent version if the most recent version is over 180 days old. ‑ iridescent 22:55, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 08:27, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
I grew up watching that particular form of horse racing. The Harness racing articles at Wikipedia are scant. I've done three, Catello Manzi- who I'm a cousin of but haven't met in 40 years, Dave Pallone, and just today Wally Hennessey. Harness racing related info is scant on the internet and I hate doing stub articles but I'm going to do a few more driver articles. Up next will probably be Bruce Nickells. Bruce just got inducted [23] into the Harness Horse racing HOF. He was trainer/driver of most of the horses my father owned and was partners with me Dad too- Brubil Farms. So I met Bruce and knew him well. He and Dad had a falling out in the late 1970's but all of that won't prevent me from doing a NPOV article. I have two photos of Bruce driving Fast Clip, the horse he and Dad owned that finished 2nd to Strike Out in the 1972 Little Brown Jug. One photo is a winner's circle photo(which I'm in), the other a racing photo. The racing photo I'm more likely to use. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:27, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Mulling over the RfA post-mortem and one question for all stalkers (good-faith NPA discussion welcome). Did I do the right thing to not respond much at all to any of the !votes and comments, but instead wait until I was asked a question directly in the questions section (or, rarely, at talk)? It seemed that staying above the fray was the more measured response, particularly as one thing that I did clearly see in the comments is that I am a bit too quick to just call it like I see it and that doing a better job of counting 10 before posting is an area where I do need some work. But, now I'm wondering if my non-response allowed a couple of situations to escalate and the comments of people be viewed as credible when there was more going on than they presented? An admin has to shut down drama, but I don't know if my responding to the more over-the-top comments would have done that or just made it worse. Thoughts? Montanabw (talk) 07:25, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
I think you handled it well and allowed everyone to say what they wanted to say without shutting them down or trying to speak over them or around them. I think some of the Negative Nellies would have enjoyed a pitchforking frenzy but they weren't given an opportunity for that. You did well, Montana. And, yup, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. As for branches of the olive variety, they may be imperfect but on Wikipedia, they seem to be more rare than a unicorn with glitter. -- Rosiestep ( talk) 14:03, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes, you did the right thing by not responding to the people who were probably posting negative, attack-type comments on purpose to draw you out. Some of them were just trying to antagonize you and/or your supporters, hoping to cause a fight to entertain themselves. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:33, 25 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Staying clear of that shit (there's no other word to accurately describe it) is usually the wisest course. Many of those folks, IMO, were hoping you'd rise to the bait, either with obvious attack comments or the much more insidious "well meaning observations" which are only attacks wearing better perfume. Intothat darkness 16:37, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Allow me to add my kudos to you for how you handled your RfA detractors and, in my opinion, some very brutal and nearly abusive treatment. I meant everything I said in support of you and you have now earned even more of my respect. It's in times like what you experienced there that a person's true "mettle" is tested and seen for what it is. And yours is/are made of brass ;-) Brava! -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
@ Montanabw: Im just curious here, given the feedback what areas do you intend to work on other than counting to 10 before jumping in? - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 16:53, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
FWIW: This is advice that we all could benefit from in this community: [24] -- Mike Cline ( talk) 17:50, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Montanabw, I voted against your RFA at this time. I just wanted to add a few comments to explain where to go from here as I will say that I am open to reevaluating my position as the months go ahead. I admire your content creation and I think content creation is essential to any administrator candidate's portfolio. I would likely not support anyone who didn't have some quality content work. If it were not for some concerns about your interaction with other users, I would have been inclined to support your candidacy in large part by the strength of your contributions. But I am unlikely to support another RfA for at least a year (6 months is too short). I would like to see you make amends with Rjensen, Rationalobserver, and a few other users who you got into some battles with. Whether they accept it or not is immaterial, but I think the attempt will go a long way (including for me). I got the sense from some of your statements that you felt above some of the opposition and that some of the complaints or concerns were not worth your time. I would also suggest two things (something I wish more admin aspirants would embrace or offer in their RfAs)--(1) ask three administrators to be your mentoring circle for 6 months if your next RfA is approved who will both guide your learning the bits and double check when there's a controversial decision, and/or (2) say that you will put yourself up for recall after the first year and every two years after that. More administrators need to put themselves up for recall or reconfirmation. I would disagree with the "lifetime appointment". I think every admin should be up for recall on that kind of schedule. We are not perfect. Wikipedia is a great place to find a fight even if you're not looking for one. I will keep my mind open if there is another RfA, but I will be unlikely to support unless you address some of the concerns of the opposition. If you'd like to discuss this further, I'd be glad to. Best of luck. JackTheVicar ( talk) 20:24, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
OK, looking over the various comments made at my RfA brings me to my next topic: One of the fears among those who !voted oppose was a fear that I would be someone who would abuse the tools by using them where I was involved or against people that I allegedly didn't like. I already said I would not abuse the tools multiple times at the RfA, I addressed that my understanding of WP:INVOLVED is very clear, but how does one prove a negative? General thoughts? Montanabw (talk) 21:50, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
I did a good bit of work on Racking Horse today that (I hope) improved it a lot. I found 5 or 6 additional sources, including one on the double-registering of pintos as Spotted Saddle horses. (Some of the inline citations are appearing multiple times on References, not sure why but it's a wonder I got them to appear at all, so I'm happy for now, although I'll have to play with that some later to correct it.) I also added some stuff about two foundation sires, whose bloodlines are still being used. And some about temperament, and the mechanics of the gait, and other uses (endurance!).😀 I had fun, and hopefully the article is a lot better. (I sourced and cited everything; found a helpful site that's about riding and training gaited horses--it's not particularly well-written but it's got a lot of good info packed in there.) It still needs a picture though...I'm on the verge of calling the association and asking if they have a picture in the public domain or fair usage we can use! White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 19:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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I'm currently going through the article sourcing it. So please don't go through it adding citation tags where I know they're needed. Oh, and please drop the infobox disputes. Restore it for the time being if you must for the sake of the peace, but please back off. We'll revisit the infobox issue when it's largely written but I have a great amount to do on it and I don't need this distraction.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Just a heads up that the {{ tq}} template makes life easier when copypasting a talk thread from one page to another and keeping it clear who said what. I was wrong-footed by this copypaste of yours, which I read as the IP announcing that they've moved something from their talk page, when it was actually your move. (I've refactored it with a {{ tq}} template.) -- McGeddon ( talk) 22:02, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Your content and resilience to all the chasing and vituperating you had to endure takes the patience of a saint, so enjoy this complimentary kitten.
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Thank you so much! I appreciate your kind words! Montanabw (talk) 00:36, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Please don't accuse me of "staking your edits" ( [26]). I consider that a personal attack. I follow Dr. B's projects and help out where I can (diffs available upon request), and until he asks me to stop I'll continue to do so, so don't threaten me to stay away from any pages I've edited. RO (talk) 21:38, 30 September 2015 (UTC) Now you're accusing me of harassing you for editing Sinatra ( [27])! You should know that serious accusations require serious proof. Please reconsider your aggressive and accusatory tone. RO (talk) 21:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
I don't want to see any squabbles or edit warring between you two. Neither do I want to see pointy editing or tags slopped on the Sinatra article. But you're both very good editors when you put your mind to it and if either of you started contributing content to it constructively I wouldn't object, but it can't be both of you for obvious reasons unless you seriously put your differences aside. All I know is that I have four or five weeks max to really get Sinatra up to scratch if we're realistically going to get it up to FA for Dec 12. He gets 160,000 hits a month. And I have 13 books here at least to get through. I'm not going to be able to do that myself in the time frame. I'll happily share 5 or 6 books with whoever would genuinely be willing to go through the books and help. I had intended sharing them with We hope but she's departed.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:25, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
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Just noticed your RfA closed unsuccessfully. Sorry it didn't come through. That is WPs loss. But you made it till the buzzer, eh? Wasn't it fun? (hee hee) Meanwhile keep up the great work! Cheers! — Keithbob • Talk • 15:46, 1 October 2015 (UTC) |
Here I learned that Jeannette Rankin of Montana was the first woman in Congress! In November 1914, Montana passed an amendment granting women unrestricted voting rights, and she was elected to Congress two years later. In January 1918 she opened congressional debate on a Constitutional amendment granting universal suffrage to women... I suppose you already know this, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. I never would have guessed that Montana was the state with the first... Wbm1058 ( talk) 18:53, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
OK, all I'm in if any of youse guyz are! GA for Jeannette (pinging KingJeff1970 AND for Frank Sinatra! Montanabw (talk) 23:58, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing my edits. I apologize for separating the beginning of the definition from the end and reference. Was just trying to explain first the overall true breeding, then individual traits, although I know they are the flip side of the coin. Whenever I read something that I struggle to understand, (being a well-read sociologist, but just a science fan) and then *think* I figure out, I try to add any wording, links, etc. that I think might clarify for the next non-specialist who reads.
If you have time, was my blue eyes/brown eyes example way off? Overly simplistic?
Thanks, Peacedance ( talk) 19:47, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Even if Frank Sinatra becomes a FA, if the compromise is later undone then I for-see this blowing up into a huge issue possibly de-stabilizing the article. Is this a can to kick down the road, or can we start the discussion on user-space maybe? I am trying to avoid the tinderbox from igniting here. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 23:17, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi MBW. Why change a proper link to a red one? (before I revert) and if you do not like See in See also please change it, its nothing to do with me but the strange red link you keep putting back is mine!! Why? Your reasoning please. Eddaido ( talk) 05:10, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Just put up Beholder (horse) for GA. Be nice to have the green tag before she races on Oct 31. Anyone interested? Montanabw (talk) 07:29, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
In the word "re-sign," the hyphen is our friend in preventing misunderstandings, albeit fleeting ones. :) Regards, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 21:44, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Montanabw, I hope all is well these days! I have nominated an article I wrote, Schmerber v. California, for FA status. I understand that you are an attorney and one of the top content creators at Wikipedia -- would you be willing to take a look at the nomination for Schmerber? Here is a link to the nomination. Thanks in advance for your help! Best, -- Notecardforfree ( talk) 17:32, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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Hello montana. I've a question for a categorization in WM Commons : what's the english name of this ? it's just under the category "bridle"; but it's not just a "bridle", I think ? Thank you ;) -- Tsaag Valren ( talk) 16:47, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh! The irony! Nylon rope halters are a) cheap (at least, if not name-branded by some guru) and b) totally unbreakable so if a horse is tied with one (and an equally strong lead rope) then goes completely batshit, they can't escape -- may break their neck first... but at the time they were developed, mustangs were cheap too. It's a rather dark history, really. You may find this article interesting. Montanabw (talk) 12:24, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsaag Valren ( talk • contribs) 23:27, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, longeing caveson? In English, caveson or cavesson is a noseband in [{English riding]]. I agree the Longeing cavesson (or lungeing) is superior. Montanabw (talk) 02:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
But doesn't the article say it's "in Billings, Montana." Tom Danson ( talk) 15:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Good question! All the best:
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Farmbrough, 15:07, 10 October 2015 (UTC).
Just saw this on Twitter: [31]. -- Softlavender ( talk) 09:19, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
The one whose markings spelled 'horse' was my favorite one! White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:15, 11 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Ugh, thought it looked photoshopped. I wonder if there are any that are really marked that way. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 19:34, 11 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
A must-have tool. -- Rosiestep ( talk) 12:10, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
You actually here in DC right now? Surprised I've not run into you yet. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 20:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing the pedigree template on Black Allan, I was afraid that if I removed the borders it wouldn't appear at all! And thanks for fixing the references as well. By the way, I created Morafic; you'll probably want to check it out. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 15:39, 12 October 2015 (UTC) |
It was nice to meet you at wikiconference USA. If you want to move into the area of folk music, let me know. -- Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Hey, Montana. Can you take a look at this: Robert Cowell? Does this satisfy the specific notability guideline for horse people? Because it surely does not satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG based on the two linked references. Does the equine project normally accept links to sports stats sites as "significant" coverage? Anyway, my interest in this is limited, but it popped up on my radar when another editor doing page patrol asked me if I thought my article was notable, to which my reaction was "huh?" Until two days ago, the page was a redirect I created to a 1948 Olympic athlete better known as "Bob Cowell". I am curious to hear your opinion on point in light of the recent addition of a specific notability guideline for horses and horse people to WP:NSPORTS. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 02:01, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Hiya. Your thoughts are welcome at WT:RFA#Two proposed RfCs on the viewdeleted userright. Hope you enjoyed the wikiconference, I enjoyed the video of the keynote. (P.S. This isn't canvassing, since you're one of the people in the target demographic ... you'll see what I mean.) - Dank ( push to talk) 17:45, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
We seem to have no article for white line disease--when I searched I got hoof wall separation disease and a bunch of other unrelated articles. Do we need one? If so, I'll create and write it (I googled and found several reliable sources; it seemed to be covered pretty broadly). I'm interested in it because my horse had it last year. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 21:04, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
I searched for it multiple times, along with "seedy toe", the slangy term for it. I'll try to get some references and do it tomorrow. I know I got a lot of high-quality hits when I searched for it on Google (The Horse and Equus articles, plus others that are also reliable). ADD: No mention of it at equine lameness. When mine had it he wasn't even lame...? White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 21:51, 14 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
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You say that organizations cannot have pages. We are fine with this. Please remove the United States Pony Club page. It is inaccurate and against our copyright. We only attempted to update outdated information. We have no "COI" in this matter. We are a non-profit organization. We seek no monetary gain from posting the correct information about our organization, only that the correct information is posted on sites such as this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by USPC2015 ( talk • contribs) 18:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
@ Montanabw: This user had erased the entire USPC page, so I reverted their edit and put it back up. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 19:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Here's the URL for the picture of Black Allan: [32]. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Montana! Thanks for tweaking the categories on the AAQHC. I'm actually at the Congress now, and hope to capture some pictures for the article but I won't be able to upload anything until I get back to Texas in 10 days. Anyway, there's a lot more that can be added so your collaboration is most welcome. Atsme 📞 📧 01:51, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Just thought I'd let you know that I went ahead and created the Tennessee Walking Horse National Celebration article. I know I'm going to have to keep a close eye because it'll probably be a vandalism target, but I thought I might as well do it because somebody else would if I didn't. Anyway, I put a whole section about the controversies stuff. Thought you might wanta check it out.. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 18:45, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
ADD: sorry if that seemed POV. It just seems screwy that the HSUS always releases a new Walking Horse abuse video perfectly in time to coincide with the beginning of the Celebration. 😝 I've watched both the attack and defense videos on YouTube too. I think the best way was how they showed Midnight Sun. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:22, 17 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
It's not the factual opposition and the actual stuff that goes on that I dislike; it's the people who've never seen a TWH in their lives and yet are all over the horse forums posting stuff they made up! I always remember a question on a forum where somebody asked what the big lick pads were made of. Somebody else answered and said they were made of rubber filled with sand and lead shavings, and weighed 15 pounds each. I've picked them up and I know that's not true! I just wish these people could see both sides of it, but people are always blind to what goes on in their own little world and quick to start attacking others. It's why most of the people posting "big lick torture" on Walking Horse videos are Quarter Horse people, and most of the people posting "four-beat lope! Dead tail!" on QH videos are TWH people.😣 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 16:17, 18 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I remember seeing a video put up by a PETA member that was titled "Shocking!!!! Horse Abuse!!!" and consisted of reining horses spinning, a trainer hobble breaking a young horse, and a dressage horse cantering. I laughed through the whole thing. That was their idea of abuse. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 23:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I've noticed, and seen abuse in most horse sports I've seen. PETA's just a lot of nuts in my opinion. They claim to help animals and yet they want all pit bulls dead because one bit Ingrid Newkirk; they pass out propaganda in the form of "Your Mommy Kills Animals!" comic books to children in elementary school, and call fish "sea kittens". I'm surprised people can even take them seriously. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 01:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Requested move at Talk:Calf_(disambiguation)#Requested_move_18_October_2015. Montanabw (talk) 23:09, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Will you be following the returns tonight? Freddiem ( talk) 23:48, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
There's yet another new user editing the United States Pony Clubs page, and that's all their contrib history shows. They had put the lead-in to the rest of the article under a heading titled 'summary' so I reverted it. I think they did something else too, but it was minor and I didn't revert it. I sent them a talk page message explaining why we don't use double headers since the article title IS the header for the lead-in, and suggesting they look at other articles for examples or join WPEQ. I just thought I'd let you know... White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 01:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
New Mexico museums need help in improving or adding their content. I see that there's a list Museums in New Mexico, which is a helpful start, and also a wiki Museum Project that offers guidelines for good article content, which is also helpful, and we have an opportunity in November, at our New Mexico Association of Museums meeting in Carlsbad, to get museums on board with this. I can create a worksheet/template based on the Museum Project guidelines, that will help museums get someone to write their article, but issues will arise with formatting and making info boxes and collections galleries, etc. In my ideal world there would be someone out there who could come to the conference and work with interested museums to help them get their acts together. Also, in my ideal world there would be someone interested in being a Wikipedian-in-Residence who could help us plow through that list of Museums in New Mexico, or one or more volunteers who would help us working remotely. Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you. Mimi.roberts ( talk) 15:25, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi. That was an interesting last edit of yours on the Horse page. A quick check of other livestock shows the same situation at Sheep at least. Am I correct in thinking that the title in the taxbox should match as close as possible the title of the article?DrChrissy (talk) 13:27, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Hello Montanabw, thanks for helping out with checking those links for usability. I noticed that the one for Anaconda Copper Mine (Montana) still shows a 404 error. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find an active replacement and the info page for this particular video is very short. Anyway, just a fyi - maybe you have a better idea where to look for an active link. GermanJoe ( talk) 03:58, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
With this ever dramatic world and winter coming, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day (ease that tension)! This e-tea's remains have been e- composted SwisterTwister talk 05:53, 22 October 2015 (UTC) |
Hi Montanabw, thankyou for your recent contributions at some longevity-related AfD's.
I am in agreement that instead of nominating countless supercentenarian articles for deletion, a more general discussion needs to take place about what standards need to be met for a subject to "qualify for notability". For example, should people in the following categories be considered notable: World's oldest people/women/men titleholders, oldest ever person from country X, Top 100 oldest ever people/woman/men ever, etc.
The main concern I have right now is that a WP:BATTLEGROUND appears to have developed around longevity-related articles. I think some users are trying to counteract the addition of WP:OR and WP:TRIVIA to some articles by other users, but have almost ended up pushing too far, and seem to have a bias against them. Unfortunately, in several past AfD's, RfC's, and other discussions, these editors always contribute and this may, at times, lead to a false representation of the true consensus of the wider community, which I feel has damaged Wikipedia's articles on the subject of longevity.
Therefore, I'd like it if more editors can get involved in this project. May I ask how we can go about having a discussion about supercentenarian notability and WP:GNG? Thanks -- Ollie231213 ( talk) 00:18, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the wrap-up on her racing career. Given her pedigree and performance I suspect that we have not heard the last of her. Expect to see a Brandi's Kitten or a Tap It Brandi in a couple of years time. Tigerboy1966 10:11, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I want to thank you for restoring many of the Montana-related links that had been reverted. I was very discouraged to see so many hours of my work simply disappear. You make a positive difference here and I'm grateful! Guanaco55 ( talk) 15:40, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
I just created Merry Go Boy. I have a question about the pedigrees, though--on one like his where some horses are unknown, is it better to leave the formatting tags (mffm) or put a question mark where the name would go to show that the ancestor is unknown? White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 15:51, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. 😊 I may end up writing one about Albert Dement; he keeps popping up and he was apparently the Hank Weiscamp of Walkers. Google turns up several good refs, books and stuff. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 18:27, 27 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Rainbow butterfly unicorn kittens. Really. It is. Ealdgyth - Talk 01:29, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
It is not just this article, but I am using it as an example. The formatting is off. External links is in small type and the section header is far off to the right. Some articles have the same problem with references sections. How do we fix these? ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:45, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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with style="clear:all;" is used instead, it normally behaves as you would expect because div is a block element.Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 16:08, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I am OK with your bold move, but would you care to assist with the links redirected from the old title? (The others are probably not worth the trouble) [33]? Montanabw (talk) 22:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I created a stub for Nyquist (horse) and plan to expand it after I'm done watching TV (there's another horse I'm watching). Am happy to do the pedigree section. Will you have a look? Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 21:01, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
I tried to add an infobox but had to remove it...😝 I screwed it up someway. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 22:51, 31 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I was going to do that too and somebody beat me! I loved watching him win today though, he is the best horse in my lifetime so far. I was born too late for Secretariat. 😉 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 00:17, 1 November 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I've reverted it back in: sorry! -- Rubbish computer ( Trick: or treat?) 23:17, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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Is it OK on the Walking Horse articles to provide an external link to a YouTube video of the horse (Midnight Sun and Strolling Jim specifically, there's actual footage of them on YouTube and may be some of Merry Go Boy too---not sure)? Without getting slammed for "spamming"? I mean, create an external links section, and put the link to the specific video there. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 23:59, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, will probably do so tomorrow. The videos are blurry, but then again I'm sort of surprised they even bothered to take them back then. I think there may be one for Wing Commander too. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 01:00, 3 November 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
[34] Join in if you want. Regardless, I thought you should know it's happening. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 14:33, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
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Even if it's outside your wheelhouse, I could use a pair of copyediting eyes on Louise de Broglie, Countess d'Haussonville, newly created by me on Englsh Wikipedia. (There's a French Wikipédia version, which provided some inspiration and a couple factoids, although I mostly re-sourced this to English language RS while expanding and rewriting it.) I can't figure out how to do the fr:Wikipedia linky thing, which I used to be able to do. Could you have a whack at it? Hoping to bring this to DYK. The sitter is fascinating and her portrait ridiculously famous. Thanks if you can help Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 02:56, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Do you care if I put an AfD on this article? The topic is already covered in rodeo, it's a POV PETA propaganda piece, and it was written by a sock. I've thought of trying to edit it but don't know where to start. It's a piece of crap. I normally don't like deleting articles but... White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 17:58, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I may post at the Teahouse or somewhere to get more opinions, thanks. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Looks like the consensus is keep. I removed the stuff that used Peta as a source (they're not exactly reliable) and am planning to do more tomorrow. May be a decent article of it can be balanced out. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 02:15, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
There appears to be somebody using the equine podiatry article to self-promote now. Al 21 of their edits (since they joined a year ago) are to it last night. I undid a little of what they had done, and sent them a message about self-promoting requesting that they use the talk page to propose changes. Gag. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 15:36, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. By the way, I wrote something about Caspian horses on your horse breeds snark page a while back: I'm thinking of creating something like myself! White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 02:19, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
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I just created this so feel free to look it over. It's a stub right now, but I hope to add sections and more stuff later. Also you may get a laugh out of this. I'm going out riding in a couple of minutes, but I'll be back on later. 🐴 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 21:35, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I think they do have cutting, reining and some other working Western classes at the Morgan Grand National; I'll see if I can find a web class list later and add more. 😃 I'm thinking about moving those "glitter pony" things to a whole subpage. I bet there are tons of them out there. ADD: I created this one on Sunday; you might want to look it over too. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 23:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
In this article its box says it started in 1988 and that is up year the article has winners for but at the bottom it was categorized 'Recurring sporting events established in 1935'. Can you confirm this race started in 1988? I changed the categories to say 1988. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:10, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I have sent you one. — Ched : ? 21:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm back with a new name. WAF instead of WAM, but it was the closest I could get. White Arabian Filly ( Neigh) 21:27, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Been wanting to do this for a while! White Arabian Filly ( Neigh) 02:26, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
I apologize for not being more active on the project but the ArbCom fiasco has drained me of motivation and is one heckuva time sink. I've been reading the comments and edit summaries and as soon as this mess closes, I'll be able to focus where I should be focused. 😐 Atsme 📞 📧 19:15, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Finally got a little time to do some work, and created Dry Doc to go with the Doc O'Lena, Poco Lena x Doc Bar magic. My declaration is that he was owned by my late brother-in-law, and just before he sold Dry to the King Ranch, we seriously considered his offer to sell us 1/2 interest but conceded when a much higher counter offer came to the table. I provided only factual info when I created the article. Do you think I need to make any other declarations? Atsme 📞 📧 02:08, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
OK, dammit, you just sent me down a research geekery rabbit hole for an hour! (see timestamps!) But, I found this cool site which even has a "calculator" - an interactive flow chart of sorts. I just added it to my toolbox. Now, to go find those WP policy pages I always wish I could find... Montanabw (talk) 23:01, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey, Montanabw — I'm thinking of bringing Robert Durst and The Jinx (miniseries) to GA status over the next few months, as I'm the majority contributor to both articles (which are well-trafficked but very stable). I can't tell you how much I learned from our collaborative work and your helpful hand-holding, and I'm pretty confident that the process of conforming footnotes and cleaning up ledes will be pretty easy for me (my contributions to those articles predate meeting you but the sourcing is very sound). I did wonder about a couple things: is there a strong prejudice at GA against articles without images? It's particularly hard to find them for Robert Durst, unless I salt the article with generic milieu images which may not add great EV. I also have a potentially big sourcing problem for The Jinx, in that one section I and others find very useful (the cast in order of appearance) was in fact contributed by someone who watched the series intently and took chronological notes. While accurate, it isn't secondarily sourced; unless I construct some footnote acknowledging that it comes directly from the broadcast (does that count as WP:OR?) that section risks being dropped altogether, which would be a loss to Durstaholics. Anyway, I know this is not your bailiwick or particular area of interest but would appreciate your advice. GA is also very backed up right now; I obviously want to contribute reviews there as well to build up my karma. Is that a good plan to help speed the process? Thanks again for everything — Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 02:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Please see Caste system in India talk page. VictoriaGrayson Talk 21:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Dear , I reverted your revert of Grant's Farm, I understand that you did in good faith, but those two templates, {Infobox Zoo} and {Zoos} are different, and not the same, that's why I removed one Template and at the same time added the need for [[Category:Articles needing infobox zoo]].
If you have an interest in Zoos, and those articles, maybe you can consider joining me with the work at Wikipedia:WikiProject Zoo, where Im presently the only active member and contributor. Dan Koehl ( talk) 14:12, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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Sure. Why not? It's nothing I know anything about, which is one good reason to investigate. What's there already looks pretty impressive, especially the stuff involving quantitative measurements and test runs. Finetooth ( talk) 02:41, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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And some pie! But seriously, I self-nominated for a Standard Triple Crown and belatedly realized I don't deserve GA credit for Ahmed Zayat, for which you obviously did the heavy lifting. I shouldn't list it on my User page either. I can and will bring another article to GA in the coming months, and get my little prize for it. Thank you for the help, encouragement, and inspiration you've offered me here on Wikipedia this year! Happy Thanksgiving Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 22:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Vesuvius Dogg: You DO deserve GA credit for Zayat, Picard always needs Riker! And to all, BURP! Thank you! Montanabw (talk) 06:29, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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Hi there, this looks like it's probably the full url that you marked as incomplete in the Abu Farwa article. [37] I added it to article, but you should probably check just to make sure. Cmr08 ( talk) 10:42, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
I have created two new articles, Tennessee Walking Horse National Museum and Calsonic Arena. Pretty short, feel free to expand. The museum thing is apparently unique and has been covered in a lot of Tennessee travel and culture books (many more than I cited-will add more later) and CA is the home not only of the TWHNC, but a lot of rodeos, 4-H shows, dog shows, etc. plus the Great American Mule and Donkey show! It was redlinked in several places. Also, if you think we could use external links to videos to illustrate more of the articles like the one I found for the TWH article (I added it in the EL section), let me know. I watch a lot of YouTube and there is so much crap, but every once in a while there's a good video that actually teaches something. It's my idea that one good video could be externally linked in the EL section of the appropriate article to illustrate stuff that's hard to explain in words, like the gaits of the gaited breeds or dressage tests...etc, etc, especially since we don't have appropriately licensed videos to go in the bodies of most of them. Just some ideas!🐴 White Arabian Filly ( Neigh) 23:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Thought you'd like to give it your blessings, . I am a member of that organization so in order to avoid potential COI accusations would you be so kind as to give it a look-see? Atsme 📞 📧 15:47, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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FYI: Because the two articles Rondo in C minor (Bruckner) and Intermezzo in D minor (Bruckner) are, since their beginning, bogged down in repeated, endless discussions about soundness of its content, discography, infobox, referencing, etc. I have decided to take the bull by the horns. See Talk:Rondo in C minor (Bruckner)#An article, which started on a shaky base and Talk:Intermezzo in D minor (Bruckner)#An article, which started on a shaky base.
Thank you for your repeated, appreciated help, -- Réginald alias Meneerke bloem ( To reply) 16:19, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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MountainPleasure said they asked an admin about changing username (I assume through email) and were told it's not problematic. They also sent me a message saying the pic on the article looks like a Walker, which it does to me too, and I'm the one who found it on Commons. They are hoping to upload some pics soon, so watch for that... I found some Google book sources and parked them at the article talk as well. White Arabian Filly ( Neigh) 23:53, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
They need to change their user name per WP:COI... whoever they asked doesn't understand policy, they can't be named as if they represent the association or imply they are connected to it, it's against the rules. Montanabw (talk) 23:54, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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why are not classified by countries. as in neighbor countries. this is better be classified as Template:Spanish horses, Template:Portuguese horses-- Vvven ( talk) 22:10, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
ok I think it will be difficult to win the discussion, better i not say him anything-- Vvven ( talk) 03:23, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
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First message was mildly annoying but not unreasonable: [39] Second message, made 16 minutes later, was not appropriate, in my view: [40]. Montanabw (talk) 06:41, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Montanabw, I need a horse expert, and you're the lucky person who came to mind. Since I have no horse sense at all, would you mind taking a look at: Jack Brizendine? Thanks! 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:00, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
In general, it's kind of a judgement call. WP:GNG is the base policy. There is a WP:NSPORTS page of guidelines for sporting figures that includes rodeo, equestrianism (meaning the International level, mostly) and horse racing. (Full disclosure: I wrote the horse racing one and updated the other two!) These guidelines help the non-aficionado determine what is most likely a "slam dunk" for notability. So, while Hall of Famers or Olympic medalists are almost always going to be notable, that doesn't necessarily mean others aren't; it depends on the level of outside, neutral, third-party coverage. I called in the troops because I think Brizendine is on the line: I found one article about him in the Quarter Horse Journal online, he did seem to accumulate quite a show record, and then there were a couple articles prior to his obituaries in some online sources that seem to be mostly promotional. It got prod-tagged because it basically read like a hagiographic memorial to the guy, but just because the article is poor quality doesn't mean he's not notable. But, for example, I know the Arabian horse world and I have a real good gut instinct about who is notable and who is "just a successful trainer" but not up to the WP:GNG standard. On the other hand, ALL of us have a real good gut feeling for when someone is just trying to use WP to promote their own business (like that gal who created Western dressage off her own web site and got all mad at us when we told her she couldn't copy and paste). I won't AfD Brisendine, but if someone else does, I think it would be an interesting and useful discussion and I won't fight to keep it in. Montanabw (talk) 19:38, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Well, if all Olympic competitors are considered notable, what about their coaches/trainers who got them to the Olympics? Are they notable? What about the coaches/trainers whose students are medal winners? Also, keep in mind that the AQHJ has more than 45,000 paid subscribers. AQHA is the world's largest equine breed registry and membership organization with close to 2,500,000 registered QH, over 263,500 paid members (actually down from 10 years ago when it was over 353,000), and over 711,000 American Quarter Horse owners. The All-American Quarter Horse Congress alone had over 20,000 entries in 2014, probably more in 2015 but they haven't published those figures yet. Granted, horse shows are probably less exciting to watch than a hockey game - we seldom see a fist fight - but that doesn't mean they are any less challenging or competitive. A lot of the exhibitors who make it to the Congress probably have 6 figures invested in the horse, rig, show attire, tack, training, etc. just getting there. Cutting is even more expensive when you factor in training at $2,000+/mo. but competitors can earn big bucks today...like over $8 Million in lifetime earnings. [44]. Not a bad living/ I guess the point I'm trying to make is that showing horses is not a cake walk and is as much a sport as any other. Unfortunately, horse shows don't have much spectator appeal which is why they never really caught-on as a televised event like Monday Night Football. Atsme 📞 📧 03:40, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Ok - Montanabw and White Arabian Filly - I was doing a little copy-editing on a film article and noticed a section at the bottom of the page I had not seen before - Related Articles. I checked other films to see if that section was appropriate since we already have wikilinks, and discovered that it's in widespread use as exampled here: Elvis Presley filmography. I posted a question to the coordinator for Project Films and am now waiting for his response. What do you think about such a section for the horse articles? Atsme 📞 📧 18:12, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
American Paint Horse is an older article but not horrible (I worked on it years ago, it's been pretty, um, stable... bad pun...). It would benefit from more footnoting and would be fun to get to GAN some day. Though they did originate as a place to land cropout Quarter horses, IMHO, Paints are a now a breed (with a color preference), not just a color breed, based primarily on their requirement for previously-registered stock and allowing non-patterned breeding stock to be registered -- though that said, now that AQHA dumped its white rule, there isn't much reason for APHA to be a separate "breed" (but I digress). The palomino, though, is genetically IMPOSSIBLE to breed "true" because the creme gene is an incomplete dominant, so any palomino registry is merely a "color breed" registry and whatever standards they claim to have, and they allow so many different breeds in, they really don't have much in the way of standards, "palomino" is only a color and not a real breed trait at all. (Full disclosure: I currently own a palomino half-Arab, and I do love the color, but it ain't a "breed" - LOL). It would make sense perhaps to do articles on the Palomino associations, though, and maybe even the color breeds council, because it is big business. I am open to discussion, always, but I have real issues with calling something a "breed" when it's just a color -- (do you remember way back in maybe the 70s or early 80s when someone tried to start a bay horse "registry"?). I mean, obviously they now make a lot of money, but one can't fly in the face of science. But trot over to color breed and feel free to start a discussion there if you'd like! ;-) Montanabw (talk) 04:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Personally, I kind of agree with you about Paints, but I don't feel that way about Appaloosas, as the color is integral to the breed in a way that it isn't for the Paints. And I really don't feel that way about the European breeds like the Haflinger or the Friesian (in theory either of those two breeds could decide to admit a weird color if one existed, which I don't think happens with Haflingers (all chestnuts) but does in the Friesian (where most are black, but the occasional recessive chestnut pops up occasionally...). But how to we clarify the difference or be consistent? I've had huge debates over at the landrace and other articles over the line between a feral breed, a landrace breed and a "standardized" breed -- given that all of them are human constructs (DNA can only verify parentage and hint at ancient ancestry -- none are like species where DNA says this is a donkey, not a horse). One could argue that breeds with an open stud book aren't breeds, but then, even Quarter Horses still allow TBs in... and almost all the warmbloods, for example. But while we have genuine rare breeds (like the Marsh tacky), we also have all sorts of stuff like the Moyle horse or the Camarillo White Horse or (worse yet) the Virginia Highlander where you basically have one guy's breeding program = a "breed" (My own informal rule is if they show up in a major breed encyclopedia, we take 'em...but I really have to hold my nose sometimes) Montanabw (talk) 21:20, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi there Montana, I'd like a little feedback on an article I've been working on, Daniel Holtzclaw. If he was a serial rapist that had recently raped 13 women, you'd think that you would have heard his name, right? As a matter of fact he was convicted just this month and not only did the media ignore the affair, women's activist groups have ignored the whole thing as well. Can you guess why?
I'm slowly going through the article making improvements but there is more to do. Here's my question: Considering that just one rape of a white, middle class woman would generate coverage, do you think that the article should devote a few lines to each of the women? See this mag coverage for an example: [50] What do you think?
Also, the article title needs to change. I've worked on many similar articles and the article never uses the name of the rapist, though in this case we might need to use something that does include his name... Thoughts?
You can reply on the article talk page if you are interested in helping. Thanks. Gandydancer ( talk) 19:02, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you for your response. Just organising image of registered Warlander horse for you now. It will have a copyright release on it for use on Wikipedia by owner and photographer so will be no rights reserved. How do I get it to you when I get it?
For the references where the Warlander name came from (not War horses, but named after a human being) go to: http://warlanderstudbooksociety.com.au/#/breed-history/4572174443 and click 'download history of the Warlander' link
The Warlander name is also covered at founder of the breed's site (which is already a reference on Warlander page) - http://www.warlander.com.au/warlanderhistory.htm
With regards to Atavism in Warlander horses, all I can tell you is I am the registrar of the Warlander Studbook (global) and there are no Warlander horses registered in the studbook that have any genetic issues or have Atavism, even in the third generation. The Warlander has a bigger genetic pool than all of its base breeds.
The International Warlander Registry and Society that is linked at the bottom of the page has been closed since 2012. This needs to be deleted completely and the new global studbook is called Warlander Studbook Society and its address is www.warlanderstudbooksociety.com.au
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Hello, I am clearly clueless when it comes to this subject, but i would like to enrich the articles with some videos on this subject. Can you please guide me to some appropriate footage you would like to see on those articles? Best Matanya ( talk) 19:15, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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just so you know. Hope your well! Cassianto Talk 18:51, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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If Talk:Race (biology) is a place you've been around for a while, does the behavior of this editor remind you of any of the editors who were banned, such as Captain Occam, Ferragho the Assassin or Mikemikev? I'm not very familiar with their styles.
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@ Beyond My Ken:, unfortunately, I am not very familiar with them, I think I may have tangled briefly with Occam or Mikemikev, but not enough to catch the style. That said, if you want to point me to some examples, I'll take a peek. If I see a pattern, I'll let you know. Montanabw (talk) 21:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montana,
I noticed that you reverted my removal of the hatnote from the Horse grooming article with the edit summary "IAR, this is one where people may well find themselves wanting to go back to the dab." Why do you believe that readers would want to go to the disambiguation page from this article? I would think that a "See also" section would better provide any functionality you are envisioning. The guidelines are clear on this point, and for good reason; no one is going to end up on this page by accident when looking for an article on another kind of grooming. What are your thoughts?
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Having puzzled together over the Zayyat clan, I thought of you tonight reading this. Hope all's well! — Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 02:38, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
@ Vesuvius Dogg: Wow! That is fascinating! Great find! Montanabw (talk) 17:15, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
A user has made large changes to this article based on (to me) unclear criteria. I reverted it all so it can be discussed. Any input is welcome. Rmhermen ( talk) 17:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
RE; Equine Gastric Ulcer Syndrome", what I have prepared is virtually a total re-write since the majority of the current version is just too difficult to spot edit to my satisfaction. I hope this allowed according to Wikipedia protocol. ( EquiDocG ( talk) 20:07, 24 June 2015 (UTC))
Hi Mbw thanks so much for coming over to DRN. You're pretty sharp so you've probably already noticed this....... but I'll point this out anyway. The filing party BeeCeePhoto hasn't participated yet and Robco311 is not a listed party (although they could be added). That said, any discussion between any interested parties (even if BeeCeePhoto doesn't show) can be valuable in moving a dispute forward. So use your best judgement. DRN is very flexible and we are not stuck on procedures we just want to help people move towards resolution in any way we can. Thanks again for all your help! Best, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:32, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
@ Keithbob:, if you go into the editing window Robco311 is BeeCeePhoto, why he's signing with a different name is beyond me, but it's the same user. Montanabw (talk) 19:30, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Sure, Montanabw. It's ok. Tags aren't badges of shame or anything. If you were going to fix it, I think it might've made more sense to just do that instead of reverting me. An unreferenced article should generally be tagged as such. It feels a bit like you're shooting the messenger here. -- BDD ( talk) 20:06, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Dear Montanabw,
You will recall the long ant time-consuming discussion, which happened in the past about this concern.
Nikkimaria is doing it again, when I tried to improve the content of the infoboxes of the two pages Rondo in C minor (Bruckner) and Intermezzo in D minor (Bruckner), which she originally split from other articles. See the (sterile) discussion which is starting again on the talk pages of these two pages. Please advise.
I am sorry to disturb you again with this concern. Best regards, -- Réginald alias Meneerke bloem ( To reply) 09:40, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montana, a recent Wikimedia blog post included two of your articles. I'd love to get your feedback on the general concept, if you have the time! Ed Erhart (WMF) ( talk) 10:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
I just wanted to leave you a note to apologise for if I seemed a bit off in my conduct here; I know I can sometimes seem a bit crusty and I think I wasn't too polite in a couple of the edit summaries. I hope you'll forgive me and look forward to continuing the discussion on the talk page. It's a fine article, incidentally, thanks! Hope you're well. Cheers, — Cliftonian (talk) 06:20, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Today I passed a review for my first GA article. It took some hard work, but was well worth it. Thanks for the information and personal experience you gave me at the beginning. I know we didn't get off to the best start, but I'm glad you put up with me long enough for me to gain a little more perspective. I hope everything goes well with you, and I'll be happy to support your eventual bid to be an admin. Peace. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 03:41, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
If you DO decide to stand for admin (and I advise against it) please get hold of me somehow so I can come in and comment. You're one of the few people not an admin that I know[1] would be good at it. ++ Lar: t/ c 23:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
1 - this could just be because I no longer know anyone here.... or hardly, anyway.
I think there is a big problem with en:wp and admin burnout is a symptom. Unlike when I first went dormant, I think WMF is aware, and is working to correct it. But how do you correct a culture, working from above, that prides itself on consensus driven actions and is organized bottom up? It's going to be a hard nut to crack. I'd actually advise waiting. Why burn yourself out now, trying to stop the tide, as the forces arrayed at your side dwindle? Perhaps better to have the dike break, and disaster occur, followed by radical change. But I don't know. You'd get my passionate support. The problem is that... that support may damage your chances more than it helps. I've done very little here for years, although I am glad I stil have my bit.++ Lar: t/ c 15:44, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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Yo Monty, I saw you've uploaded quite a deal of photos from Flickr (hundreds?). Please help with categorizing them, now they're bulking up the category:Horses. You're far more knowledgeable than me about TB racing and such, and many photos seem to be related to it. -- Pitke ( talk) 21:16, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Will do; thought I had the upload set to do that automatically, but must have grabbed Flickr tags. Yes, if they look like horse racing, it will be Thoroughbreds, mostly USA and UK (may have found some from Asia... which will be obvious by script) Montanabw (talk) 17:45, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Please see HERE. VictoriaGrayson Talk 23:41, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Losing the kahako is discussed in the talk page. You said you were there for the equestrian portion of the article. I just never took it out.-- Mark Miller ( talk) 07:00, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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American Pharoah is at FAC and languishing. Anyone want to peek at it? Thanks! Montanabw (talk) 04:45, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, re this revert. My edit was to text that I had written; none of my sources use the term "bench" and it was my bad choice of wording in the first place. When editing yesterday, I wanted to remove the impression that the seat was a wooden bench without cushions or other padding - in fact the grooms' seats in railway horseboxes were pretty much the same as a normal seat in a passenger train of the period, the main difference was that there was only one row of seats facing one way, instead of two rows facing each other like this. I have a horsebox drawing scaled at 2+1⁄2 mm: 1 foot, and the seat measures 15 mm wide on the drawing, which is six feet on the real thing. It doesn't show armrests (folding or otherwise) which would indicate exactly how many people it was intended for; but a 6-ft seat would have been a tight squeeze for four normal-sized people, even with armrests folded up. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 08:02, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
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LOL! Montanabw (talk) 06:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Don't let the argumentum ad baculum types get to ya... GregJackP Boomer! 07:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
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Montanabw, I see you have the account creator bit. I've recently been recruited to be the technical adviser for an edit-a-thon to be held at a local museum, probably in October. My impression is that most of the volunteers there are going to be newcomers who may not have accounts before that day. I've advised the organizers at the museum to try to encourage volunteers to register accounts in advance, but we're surely going to have some who don't do that. I understand that you can, as a person with the bit, waive the 6-registrations per 24-hour rule at Special:CreateAccount. How does that work? Is it waived by IP address or does it have to be done on an account-by-account basis? Would you be able to do it for us in advance or does it have to be done in real time on the date of the event? Best regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 17:26, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey I tried to clarify that the Silver Shadows Shiek is a black horse on the Percheron page, you fairly removed my edit. I have a scan of the official pedigree document from Percheron Association. Seems a bit overboard to addthat as an image on the wiki page... any thoughts on how i can use that as a source/citation? The horse was also discussed in that year's issue of the official program of the international Percheron association.
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Thank you! Yippee. Okay, the only downside to my first GA is sending it to DYK. But, I learned a lot from it. When Dr. B said 10K in chars I thought he was out of his head. Actresses, sure, but an obscure, though important, doctor with all Spanish sources? As crazy as it was to type those 20 pages for you, it helped, because I pulled a lot of little tidbits in and then Ian and Dr. B worked it over. I think I shall just enjoy for a few days that it is approved before I send it to the cabal. SusunW ( talk) 05:16, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
@ SusunW:: Looks like you have helpers! Thanks, Gerda! Montanabw (talk) 03:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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Hey, Montanbw, I just didn't want you to think I was ignoring your offer over at Harej's talk page. You're right that the Amon Carter Museum of American Art has a substantial collection of Russells (and Remingtons) and, indeed, it was originally named the Amon Carter Museum of Western Art and from its founding in 1961 until 1967 only focused on art of the American West; it began expanding its collection to include 19th and 20th century American art in 1967 and was renamed to its current name in 2010. When's your event? Ours is October 10. Have you done one before? I've not and I'm feeling my way along on this one. Best regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 16:08, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I just found another idiom that I did not realize was horsey: to take something "in stride". To quote The American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms: "This idiom alludes to a horse clearing an obstacle without checking its stride. [c. 1900]". [10] -- Softlavender ( talk) 07:49, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Yep! Maybe we should start a List of equestrian-based idioms! LOL! (But seriously, maybe we should!) Montanabw (talk) 18:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes... Ride over 'em roughshod! White Arabian mare ( talk) 22:12, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
I saw where you answered my post on the Arabian horse talk page about the foal temperaments. Well, I found my source. It was in an October 1999 issue of Western Horseman, the old All-Breed Issue where they published reports from each major breed association. The statement about foal temperaments was in the Arabian article, which was described as being written by the IAHA director of marketing. (Of course that was before the IAHA merged with the Arabian Horse Registry of America.) I have the magazine in my house. Feel free to check out my talk page anytime. I have several horse topics up there. White Arabian mare ( talk) 16:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare White Arabian mare ( talk) 16:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
The track closed, so are all the races that used to be held there no more? ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:40, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Is it Hollywood Park or Santa Anita where they hold the Breeders' Cup races? I heard they would be at Keeneland this year. White Arabian mare ( talk) 21:37, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
How can I add a picture (preferably of a white Arabian mare) to my user page? I don't have one on my phone. Can I use one from Google or what? White Arabian mare ( talk) 18:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks White Arabian mare ( talk) 20:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Picture does not appear. I typed in the code and it turned red but no picture appeared. White Arabian mare ( talk) 21:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
OK, I'm going to try it again. By the way I know about the 'white' horses but I decided white would sound better than 'gray Arabian mare'. As a kid I always called them that because I didn't know better. I explained my name on my talk page if anybody wants to read it. White Arabian mare ( talk) 21:25, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Picture appeared. I live on top of a mountain and have weird Internet, so that may have had something to do with it. :P White Arabian mare ( talk) 21:34, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
was looking at Lincoln Chaffee's Wikipedia article and after graduating from Brown he headed out to Montana, graduated from MSU-Bozeman, and then began to ply his trade as a farrier, at various harness racetracks. Really...:-) Freddiem ( talk) 21:29, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Heh, ah Livingston... the celebrities move in, the normal people move out... though maybe Watts will return now that he's a celebrity! LOL!
I put things back the way they were in the Basin article pending further thought. User:Niagara has offered to help track down actual Basin stats supported by government sources. Finetooth ( talk) 16:48, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Rosie said you are collecting info on women for an edit-a-thon on Montana women. I ran across this article Montana female photographers awhile back and found it interesting. Haven't decided if there is enough there for bios or what--maybe women's employment options on the frontier. Only one of them seems to have her own bio on Wikipedia. SusunW ( talk) 02:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
A race, California Cup Distaff that according to this source [11] hasn't been raced since 2012. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:42, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
@ WilliamJE:, what I'm getting is that the California Cup Distaff (a turf race)apparently merged into the (California) Sunshine Millions Filly and Mare Turf Sprint and that there is a Cal Cup Derby and Oaks now too, but I think on dirt [12] horseracingnation. com/stakes/California_Cup_Distaff_H.
What's it ambiguous with? Per WP:NAMB, I cannot see the point of a hatnote since there is nothing on Cayuse that could be confused with "Cayuse horse". — Xezbeth ( talk) 07:55, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
The horse is actually WP:PRIMARY in terms of common use, that said, I prefer to give a nod to the lesser-known ethnic group. Montanabw (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
You said there were plenty of horse subjects that need articles or rewriting. Well, I'll help if I know anything about them. Which ones need it the most? White Arabian mare ( talk) 02:14, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
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See Moonsell on Tibetan Buddhism talk. VictoriaGrayson Talk 19:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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You just deleted my comment here. That's my comment and you shouldn't even been changing it. If you do it again I'll make a report at WP:ANI. Curb Chain ( talk) 22:58, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montana, well, you did ask for it: I now have an at FAC ripe for reviewing! Should you have any thoughts or comments they will, of course, be most welcome. Sorry there is no horse angle on this one, but the next one in the series (now at PR) at least has a trip to a fixed horse race at Saratoga to look forward to! All the best – SchroCat ( talk) 15:21, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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Interesting how the east-west sectional rivalry in horse racing is alive and well. And so weird. Montanabw (talk) 05:10, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing up some of those articles with the giant blockquotes. Out of curiosity, do you have access to the original source of the placard text? I wasn't comfortable rewriting the text without access to the source itself, but I might be able to help if I had the source. (Even without it, I might rewrite some from the NRHP nominations, which I do have access to - I just wanted to temporarily do something about all the excessively copied and mis-assessed articles, since there were a lot of them and it will take a while to rewrite all of them.) TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 13:54, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Montanabw. I unlinked the article from Coupling, which as best I can tell has nothing to say about the meaning of "coupling" in the confirmation of a horse. You reverted this; I reverted it back. My edit comment is garbled so I'll elaborate here.
I don’t know what the meaning of "coupling" is in this article. (I did make an attempt to find out but came up empty.) If you know, please fix this passage with either a wlink or a brief definition, maybe in parentheses.
If you don't know either, then I suggest that it's best to leave the word unlinked rather than leaving it with a link to machine couplings. — ℜob C. alias ALAROB 00:48, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh — you mentioned fixing the dab, but there is no dab fix. Or if there is, I am a greenhorn and could not find it. If you ment that I should edit the article to include the horsey definition of "coupling," well, I'd be glad to if not for my ignorance. :) — ℜob C. alias ALAROB 00:49, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Coupling in horse talk refers to the way the horse is put together--a Thoroughbred has 'loose' coupling, with a long lanky body, while a Haflinger has 'tight' coupling, with a short stout body. Tennessee Walkers tend to be fairly loose now, but they were totally different years ago, with a shorter build and more muscle. (Look at the pictures in the linked articles to see the difference.) :) White Arabian mare ( talk) 02:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Try this, there's nothing like it! Bishonen | talk 18:16, 8 September 2015 (UTC).
I think you'll be pleased by the progress so far in sourcing and distinguishing Race (biology). As you can see, it's really, really complex (and not all of the complexity is even in there yet). If I'm remembering it correctly so far: A "race" in this sense is also a "biological race" (except in mycology), and more specifically, a "physiological race" is also a "biological form", and (in mycology) a "biological race", and (if formatted differently) a "forma specialis" (but neither a "forma specialis" nor a "biological form" are a "forma" or "form" in either botany or zoology). Etc.. I couldn't make this stuff up. It's no wonder the attempt to establish a uniform nomenclature code fell apart. I sure hope they try again, and stick with it until it happens.
Anyway, I added further clarification that this doesn't mean "breed", and that usage in English is obsolete, while also noting that the cognate forms in some languages are sometimes used that way (i.e., beware mistranslation).
Peter coxhead is right that the article needs a section on how the usage has changed over time, and this would dovetail with my early idea to tie the Victorian-to-mid-century usage to what is being better and better covered at Race (human categorization)#Early taxonomic models. We probably need only touch on that, and direct the reader there for that material, hopefully also shunting any further trolling in that direction, where that page is watchlisted by people better prepared for it. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 17:14, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
@ SMcCandlish: That sounds like excellent progress and a good example of teaching the controversy. If you want a hand on the historical side, that is more my thing than the science side, so feel free to ping me if needed. Montanabw (talk) 18:35, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Hiya - don't worry, this is not a rant. I was a little concerned at your last posting on ANI that Jytdog and I should stay off each others Talk pages. I have not been on his Talk page since he asked me not to, and I have no intention to. However, Jytdog has twice posted on mine since I asked. I wonder if there is a way that this could be made clearer, because your comment seems to imply I am posting to his talk page. This might be rather tricky now the thread has closed. This is a really minor point so if it can't be done, we can let it slide. All the best.DrChrissy (talk) 20:16, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
I requested two new horse-themed userboxes and User:Ahunt was kind enough to create them. Here they are:
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If you want them the codes are User:Ahunt/Tennessee Walking Horse and User:Ahunt/Arabian. Thought you might be intetested. ☺
White Arabian mare ( talk) 20:33, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm surprised there are not more horsey ones. I got both of them, as well as one for Coonhounds and one for Great Pyrenees dogs...neither of them had userboxes either, although most of the popular dog breeds had a box. White Arabian mare ( talk) 01:48, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you OODLES for the horsie! I seem to have made it my wiki thing to at least keep all race results up to date, as well as ferreting out missing information for years past. It satisfies the Virgo in me. Stellabystarlight ( talk) 04:25, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Hey, I wrote the section on bareback pads and added it to Talk:bareback in the sandbox area for you to review. Let me know if you think it needs anything else. 🏇 White Arabian mare ( talk) 20:29, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Move discussion may be of interest: Talk:Jumping_(horse)#Requested_move_10_September_2015. Montanabw (talk) 05:26, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Hey, it's a long time I'm waiting for a response from a volunteer to review Sahifah of al-Ridha which is nominated for GA in January!!! How can it be that the article is not listed here? Mhhossein ( talk) 12:55, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Montanabw, just a reminder that you opened this nomination over two weeks ago, but have yet to return with your review. Please do so as soon as possible. Many thanks! BlueMoonset ( talk) 16:45, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, hope you are well :o) Finally, I have got a FREE image of a registered Warlander Horse to replace the image that is presently on the Warlander page. Just to verify, the horse presently pictured is not a registered Warlander horse, nor can the studbook verify that it is even a Warlander. It certainly does not look anything like one. I have had a go at uploading the file myself to Wikipedia and Commons. It is at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Warlander_Horse.jpeg Don't know if it will work though, but I had a go. I have also emailed the release saying it is a FREE image to use on Wikipedia and have received a ticket number. Hope I have done it right. Can you please look out for this and help if I have stuffed up. Many thanks Karen - Secret Squirrel 101 Secret Squirrel 101 ( talk) 01:30, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that I found your responses to RfA questions substantive and specific, despite the seemingly over-critical perspective of some users. I supported your RfA. -- JustBerry ( talk) 12:29, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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For maintaining the clarity, intelligence and thoughtfulness of your comments even in the present environment of your RfA. Very refreshing and informative. Littleolive oil ( talk) 03:40, 20 September 2015 (UTC) |
Tis live Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Montanabw - good luck! Ϣere SpielChequers 23:25, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks so much, WSC! Montanabw (talk) 23:46, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
You'll want to remove outdated information from
User:Montanabw/ANI sandbox.
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White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 16:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Thanks for the food! I'm needing the nutrition! This is a real marathon, isn't it? I can't say I wasn't warned by people like Drmies, Short Brigade Harvester Boris, and Ealdgyth that I was asking for a lot of stress! So far, though, I haven't really been terribly surprised. (a couple !votes I didn't expect in both directions, but on the balance the pleasant surprises and unpleasant surprises have balanced each other out) Montanabw (talk) 18:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. There were 80+ support !votes last time I checked, a couple hours ago.😊 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:17, 18 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Montanabw, I realize that I haven't been a strong supporter of you in your RfA but I just wanted to say that the process has its ups and downs and voting comes in waves. I swear on the third day of my RfA, when the Opposes started coming in, I was ready to withdraw. But I took the weekend off and when I came back to check on it on Sunday night, I had decided I wanted to see the process all the way through.
The Supports come in on the first day, the next day come the Opposes and it's the fence-sitters who vote towards the end of the 7 day period who can tilt your candidacy one way or the other. I'm not saying that your experience is anything like mine was, I just know what it's like to see your percentage of support fall from the 90s to the 70s and it's not a pleasant experience. I encourage you to take a brief break from the entire process, do something fun this weekend and keep your spirits up.
Liz
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Beyond the matter what's appropriate and not for an encyclopedia article (versus "Picture Magazine", or a coloring book), the idea of playing house with quote box background colors as decoration is a poor idea from even an artistic standpoint - not a good one. (But I don't suppose you'd understand why not, even if I explained it. Nor do I expect you'd have any interest to hear, especially from me, who you've castigated on your "enemies over on that side" arbitrary division line.) p.s. Did you know that you put a chilling effect on articles you've decided you WP:OWN? I suspect that is one reason multiple editors in your RfA have stated they avoid contact with you. Ditto. IHTS ( talk) 04:06, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Leave the California Chrome article alone. The colored quote boxes are there for a purpose and add to the article (and before you start yelling at me, I am an artist!). Also, Montanabw is under a lot of stress right now, and you appear to just be out to stir up trouble while she is occupied with other things. Please STOP. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
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( talk page stalker) Regarding this: No one moderates RfA. It is, in effect, an anarchy. If that oppose !vote really raises RL concerns, your best bet would be to email the functionaries mailing list, at functionaries-en to discuss the possibility of oversight. This includes ArbCom as well as other users who may be able to help you. Both outing and potentially libelous content qualify for oversight. If you can demonstrate that he has either revealed nonpublic personal information about you, or that he's actually trying to discredit you with falsehoods (i.e. lying), those would be the folks to contact. Regards, Swarm ♠ 05:16, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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I think your demeanor during your arduous Rfa has been exemplary so this is a barnstar that is well deserved. MONGO 05:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC) |
I just want to give you encouragement (and brats and beer). Hang in there kid. GregJackP Boomer! 15:58, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montanabw, I have recently voted in favour of you because of your large positive contributions to Wikipedia. Recently I went through your RfA process and saw there were raise of opposition because of your involvement in WP:BATTLEGROUND, WP:AfD and WP:ANI has caused poor record in assuming good faith, Use of Administrative tools are greater responsibility and serious decision-making tasks which request to have honest editor. Since you had a poor record in voting for WP:AfD, arguing with other editors in ANI and war editing has caused many other voters to have their opinion changed when the pieces of evidence popped up in the RfA process and all went to vote against you. This very regretful to hear what's happening. In an event if your RfA fails to have a majority you can apply for RfA in the future once you have learned the lesson from the voters who voted against you. But in the meantime there are 3 days more ahead to the deadline of voting, Hopefully, there will be a miracle to have your RfA passed. Wish you a good luck! ♔ MONARCH Talk to me 01:13, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
I have promised to stay here to the end, and, frankly, I don't think content creators are valued enough overall. One reason I filed is because I think more content creators need to be admins. I was heartened by all the good words said about content creation, but I hope that those words translate into actions when content disputes arise; many people work very hard to produce good content only to deal with WP:CHEESE issues. Montanabw (talk) 05:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! That particular article had previous problems with editors conflating the issues surrounding humans with those involving the biological concept; the bottom line is that those issues would up being addressed and the article itself is getting redone by people who seem to be willing to do the tough work of researching the question thoroughly. My input there is not needed at this point, so I've unwatched the article (5,809 now...) Montanabw (talk) 23:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Montanabw. I see you love horses. So do I. I'm writing to you about "saddling up". I don't know the proper term, but I know there's a procedure, and was wondering if you would maybe be interested in making a video of the procedure. I know Wikipedia is not a "how-to", but visitors would surely be interested in that. Some things are hard to describe with words. Do we have such videos? What do you think?
And I know I've admitted at some Wikipedia talkpage to, while a kid, feeding a caterpillar to a horse. Please don't hold that against me. I was just a kid. I really do love horses.
Best, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 12:45, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
By the way, I started Feedbag back in 2012 and you made a nice edit and edit summary. :) Thank you for that! :) Ka-ka-clip Ka-ka-clip Ka-ka-clip K-ka-k-klip-k-klip....clippity-clop....clop....clop...........clop. "Whinny". :) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 13:01, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
The proper term is "tacking up"--you're very close!☺ There may already be some kind of video of that on Commons, so you may want to check there first. I know there are some pictures of tacking up, maybe they have a video too. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:17, 23 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
ADD: Don't worry about feeding the caterpillar to the horse so long as it was a one-time thing. There's no telling what kind of bugs horses inadvertently eat when they're grazing anyway! White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 23:49, 23 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Oh, I thought there was one.😛 I posted a brief run-through of tacking up on Talk:Horse tack#Tacking up procedure. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:08, 24 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
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Thank you for your contributions to horse and equestrianism-related articles: this is clearly a topic in which you are very experienced, and to which you have made valuable contributions. I wish you the best of luck for the future. Rubbish computer 16:40, 24 September 2015 (UTC) |
We are done with this discussion now, peace is a nice thing
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All I ask for is an apology and admission that you were wrong... a mere hours after your Rfa just failed -- seems to me that forming a branch, olive or otherwise, into a wikt:cudgel isn't very much of a peace offering ... Montanabw, I highly recommend my unpatented (CC By SA 3.0) Unilateral interaction ban. NE Ent 11:56, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
It would seem that the timing and phrasing of the "olive branch" proffer is very slightly discordant with the usual meaning of the term. Collect ( talk) 13:56, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I came here in a sincere effort to make peace with MBW, but she's chosen to deny me the one thing I wanted and deserved: an apology. I think it's telling that at the failed RfA the word "battle" occurs 38 times; "passion" occurs 27 times; "partisan" occurs 12 times; "bias" appears 8 times. The word "apology"; however, gets zero hits. "Mistake" occurs there 24 times, and MBW used it 8 times, and while "sorry" appears there 17 times, it was not once uttered by MBW, but instead came mostly from her opposition. I'm not a sock, and I've never socked, so it was wrong to persecute me as one for several months on end with no SPI. That much is self-evident, and policy supports my positon. I think people who refuse to apologize to those they've clearly wronged cannot be trusted with a position of power. It speaks to a very basic level of self-awareness and maturity that she's apparently lacking. More importantly this shows MBW's poor understanding of policy, which is just one of many reasons she is not suited for adminship. If MBW cannot bring herself to apologize to me for making untold numbers of unfounded accusations over the course of several months and at numerous inappropriate venues, there is nothing left for me to discuss with her. RO (talk) 17:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Note: User:Knowledgekid87 appears to have deleted a posting they made here. It is generally considered very bad form to edit another User's Talk page.DrChrissy (talk) 19:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
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I'm leaving an early closing summary at the RfA. It is NOT a withdrawal, I'm just going to be real busy tomorrow.
I decided to go with a friendly tone and a little bit of cowboy humor. If it provokes any more !opposes, that will be sad, but perhaps it will move a couple of neutrals into the !support column too.
I can't express enough thanks to all of you on this thread for the hand-holding, thoughful insights and peeling me off the ceiling. We all knew this one was not real likely to succeed, but I'm hoping I did well enough to set up for a second round sometime next spring. Montanabw (talk) 07:58, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Sorry your RfA did not succeed. Best wishes.
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Thanks, Hawkeye!
OK, time for fun! I asked Bella what she thought of how the RfA process goes. Her reply was loquacious but requires further interpretation. Ideas, anyone? Montanabw (talk) 05:05, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Maybe she's thinking "Back off, opposing users, before you get a set of horse teeth marks on your butt". Mine always gets that expression when he's about to bite.🐴 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
"Humans are weird. I would get less grief I went through RFU" Bella, as lip read by Ϣere SpielChequers 20:39, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi! I am editing Pain in fish at the moment and came across this reference to horses! In 2015, it was reported that some species ( rat, mouse, rabbit, cat and horse) adopt a facial expression in response to a noxious stimulus that is consistent with the expression of humans. [1] Very interesting!
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DrChrissy (talk) 12:03, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
When I put the word 'pad' in the Racking Horse article, I was just using the term I've always heard. Where I live, the term 'pad' is used to refer to the whole thing that's put on the foot to enhance the action; plastic stacks, shoe, everything. (People in the south are too lazy to say 'performance package' every 5 minutes...they don't say "Bubba shod the horse with performance packages", they say, "Bubba shod the horse with pads".) So, I grew up thinking everybody used it that way. I guess it's sort of a slang term.😕 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 22:09, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Boy horse? Better make that unneutered boy horse. ;) About the gait too, the 'show walk' is breed-specific; it's a kind of fast lateral walk really close to the Tennessee Walker's flat walk. (Funny story: I was once at a horse show with both racking and western classes. The announcer got scrambled during a Quarter Horse western pleasure class and told them to show walk. One of the trainers who had students showing leaned over the arena fence and yelled, "Just don't tell 'em to rack on!") White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 02:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
We have a lot of small shows like that. At the same show as the 'rack on' fiasco, there was only one entrant in men's open racking, and the judge and announcer messed with him (they knew him pretty well) for a couple of minutes by telling him he got second place before they finally gave him the blue ribbon. 😃 It's a small town. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 13:36, 26 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I'm sorry, I got sidetracked by urgent RL issues in the middle of closing your RfA and didn't get here as soon as I'd have liked. Thank you for running for admin. It's not a fun process, even for successful candidates and it takes courage to apply and open oneself to criticism. I'd encourage you to consider the opposes and try again at a suitable point in time. Good luck and thank you again. -- Dweller ( talk) 09:41, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Dear Montanabw. Just a few lines ||/--_=| late and little, to say I'm sorry to have missed your RfA. I don't go there much at all because it only ends up irritating and/or depressing me (and/or I piss someone off); that your bid failed is by me evidence of one seriously busted system. Anyway, you have my admiration and my thanks - and my sincere regret that I couldn't put them where and when it mattered. With bestest wishes, Plutonium27 ( talk) 12:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
I think this clip sums it up. And I'm the gopher! [21].
Never knew this was out there! I'm 283 on the top 1000 list. Thank you, talk page stalkers! Montanabw (talk) 21:09, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
phabricator:T59617#1664891 is blocking updates to the most-watched users ( configuration) database report. I'm poking around to see what's needed to get the data re-exposed. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 01:55, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm just gonna put a small chart below since I want to compare...
User | Total watchers | Recent visitor watchers | Total revisions | Recent revisions |
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Ched | 218 | 77 | 2,186 | 1 |
Dennis Brown | 420 | 201 | 15,739 | 328 |
Eric Corbett | 663 | 281 | 45,680 | 77 |
Gerda Arendt | 243 | 128 | 11,605 | 125 |
iridescent | 371 | 93 | 14,846 | 119 |
Jimbo Wales | 3,281 | 657 | 122,149 | 1,183 |
Montanabw | 295 | 144 | 9,249 | 231 |
MZMcBride | 444 | 74 | 9,272 | 11 |
Note: these stats are for user talk pages, not user pages. I also created this table by hand, so while I think I didn't screw up the copying and pasting from the info action's output, I make no guarantees. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 03:08, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Right, this is why I made a note that these stats covered user talk pages, not user pages. :-) For overall page watchers, the number will always be identical for the two pages, as you can't watch a subject-space page without also watching its associated talk page. But I believe the recent visitors watchers stat is tied to the specific page title, as are the revisions stats, of course. "User:Iridescent" is a redirect, which may explain why its stat is screwy. User:Newyorkbrad is probably a decent example, with 256 recent visitors watchers, while User talk:Newyorkbrad has 171 recent visitors watchers. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 13:26, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm number 258 ;-) -- Dweller ( talk) 12:33, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Two things: (well of course there is also "sorry your RfA failed") ... first, even after not being very active for a very long time I apparently still have a lot of watchers, and second, isn't this the centiJimbo metric? I forget. Hang in there, this too shall pass. ++ Lar: t/ c 15:19, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
no indication whatsoever that that means the "current" version of the page, you are aware that when I make an improbable sounding claim like that it's because I have a reason for making it? "It counts watchers that have visited that page since the last edit or that have visited the page at least $wgWatchersMaxAge before last edit", if you want chapter-and-verse from the Mediawiki documentation. On en-wiki, $wgWatchersMaxAge is currently set to 180 days; thus, the figure you're seeing is the number of people who've viewed the page in the last 180 days, plus the number of people who've viewed the most recent version if the most recent version is over 180 days old. ‑ iridescent 22:55, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 08:27, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
I grew up watching that particular form of horse racing. The Harness racing articles at Wikipedia are scant. I've done three, Catello Manzi- who I'm a cousin of but haven't met in 40 years, Dave Pallone, and just today Wally Hennessey. Harness racing related info is scant on the internet and I hate doing stub articles but I'm going to do a few more driver articles. Up next will probably be Bruce Nickells. Bruce just got inducted [23] into the Harness Horse racing HOF. He was trainer/driver of most of the horses my father owned and was partners with me Dad too- Brubil Farms. So I met Bruce and knew him well. He and Dad had a falling out in the late 1970's but all of that won't prevent me from doing a NPOV article. I have two photos of Bruce driving Fast Clip, the horse he and Dad owned that finished 2nd to Strike Out in the 1972 Little Brown Jug. One photo is a winner's circle photo(which I'm in), the other a racing photo. The racing photo I'm more likely to use. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:27, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Mulling over the RfA post-mortem and one question for all stalkers (good-faith NPA discussion welcome). Did I do the right thing to not respond much at all to any of the !votes and comments, but instead wait until I was asked a question directly in the questions section (or, rarely, at talk)? It seemed that staying above the fray was the more measured response, particularly as one thing that I did clearly see in the comments is that I am a bit too quick to just call it like I see it and that doing a better job of counting 10 before posting is an area where I do need some work. But, now I'm wondering if my non-response allowed a couple of situations to escalate and the comments of people be viewed as credible when there was more going on than they presented? An admin has to shut down drama, but I don't know if my responding to the more over-the-top comments would have done that or just made it worse. Thoughts? Montanabw (talk) 07:25, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
I think you handled it well and allowed everyone to say what they wanted to say without shutting them down or trying to speak over them or around them. I think some of the Negative Nellies would have enjoyed a pitchforking frenzy but they weren't given an opportunity for that. You did well, Montana. And, yup, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. As for branches of the olive variety, they may be imperfect but on Wikipedia, they seem to be more rare than a unicorn with glitter. -- Rosiestep ( talk) 14:03, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes, you did the right thing by not responding to the people who were probably posting negative, attack-type comments on purpose to draw you out. Some of them were just trying to antagonize you and/or your supporters, hoping to cause a fight to entertain themselves. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:33, 25 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Staying clear of that shit (there's no other word to accurately describe it) is usually the wisest course. Many of those folks, IMO, were hoping you'd rise to the bait, either with obvious attack comments or the much more insidious "well meaning observations" which are only attacks wearing better perfume. Intothat darkness 16:37, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Allow me to add my kudos to you for how you handled your RfA detractors and, in my opinion, some very brutal and nearly abusive treatment. I meant everything I said in support of you and you have now earned even more of my respect. It's in times like what you experienced there that a person's true "mettle" is tested and seen for what it is. And yours is/are made of brass ;-) Brava! -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
@ Montanabw: Im just curious here, given the feedback what areas do you intend to work on other than counting to 10 before jumping in? - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 16:53, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
FWIW: This is advice that we all could benefit from in this community: [24] -- Mike Cline ( talk) 17:50, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Montanabw, I voted against your RFA at this time. I just wanted to add a few comments to explain where to go from here as I will say that I am open to reevaluating my position as the months go ahead. I admire your content creation and I think content creation is essential to any administrator candidate's portfolio. I would likely not support anyone who didn't have some quality content work. If it were not for some concerns about your interaction with other users, I would have been inclined to support your candidacy in large part by the strength of your contributions. But I am unlikely to support another RfA for at least a year (6 months is too short). I would like to see you make amends with Rjensen, Rationalobserver, and a few other users who you got into some battles with. Whether they accept it or not is immaterial, but I think the attempt will go a long way (including for me). I got the sense from some of your statements that you felt above some of the opposition and that some of the complaints or concerns were not worth your time. I would also suggest two things (something I wish more admin aspirants would embrace or offer in their RfAs)--(1) ask three administrators to be your mentoring circle for 6 months if your next RfA is approved who will both guide your learning the bits and double check when there's a controversial decision, and/or (2) say that you will put yourself up for recall after the first year and every two years after that. More administrators need to put themselves up for recall or reconfirmation. I would disagree with the "lifetime appointment". I think every admin should be up for recall on that kind of schedule. We are not perfect. Wikipedia is a great place to find a fight even if you're not looking for one. I will keep my mind open if there is another RfA, but I will be unlikely to support unless you address some of the concerns of the opposition. If you'd like to discuss this further, I'd be glad to. Best of luck. JackTheVicar ( talk) 20:24, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
OK, looking over the various comments made at my RfA brings me to my next topic: One of the fears among those who !voted oppose was a fear that I would be someone who would abuse the tools by using them where I was involved or against people that I allegedly didn't like. I already said I would not abuse the tools multiple times at the RfA, I addressed that my understanding of WP:INVOLVED is very clear, but how does one prove a negative? General thoughts? Montanabw (talk) 21:50, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
I did a good bit of work on Racking Horse today that (I hope) improved it a lot. I found 5 or 6 additional sources, including one on the double-registering of pintos as Spotted Saddle horses. (Some of the inline citations are appearing multiple times on References, not sure why but it's a wonder I got them to appear at all, so I'm happy for now, although I'll have to play with that some later to correct it.) I also added some stuff about two foundation sires, whose bloodlines are still being used. And some about temperament, and the mechanics of the gait, and other uses (endurance!).😀 I had fun, and hopefully the article is a lot better. (I sourced and cited everything; found a helpful site that's about riding and training gaited horses--it's not particularly well-written but it's got a lot of good info packed in there.) It still needs a picture though...I'm on the verge of calling the association and asking if they have a picture in the public domain or fair usage we can use! White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 19:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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I'm currently going through the article sourcing it. So please don't go through it adding citation tags where I know they're needed. Oh, and please drop the infobox disputes. Restore it for the time being if you must for the sake of the peace, but please back off. We'll revisit the infobox issue when it's largely written but I have a great amount to do on it and I don't need this distraction.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Just a heads up that the {{ tq}} template makes life easier when copypasting a talk thread from one page to another and keeping it clear who said what. I was wrong-footed by this copypaste of yours, which I read as the IP announcing that they've moved something from their talk page, when it was actually your move. (I've refactored it with a {{ tq}} template.) -- McGeddon ( talk) 22:02, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Your content and resilience to all the chasing and vituperating you had to endure takes the patience of a saint, so enjoy this complimentary kitten.
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Thank you so much! I appreciate your kind words! Montanabw (talk) 00:36, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Please don't accuse me of "staking your edits" ( [26]). I consider that a personal attack. I follow Dr. B's projects and help out where I can (diffs available upon request), and until he asks me to stop I'll continue to do so, so don't threaten me to stay away from any pages I've edited. RO (talk) 21:38, 30 September 2015 (UTC) Now you're accusing me of harassing you for editing Sinatra ( [27])! You should know that serious accusations require serious proof. Please reconsider your aggressive and accusatory tone. RO (talk) 21:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
I don't want to see any squabbles or edit warring between you two. Neither do I want to see pointy editing or tags slopped on the Sinatra article. But you're both very good editors when you put your mind to it and if either of you started contributing content to it constructively I wouldn't object, but it can't be both of you for obvious reasons unless you seriously put your differences aside. All I know is that I have four or five weeks max to really get Sinatra up to scratch if we're realistically going to get it up to FA for Dec 12. He gets 160,000 hits a month. And I have 13 books here at least to get through. I'm not going to be able to do that myself in the time frame. I'll happily share 5 or 6 books with whoever would genuinely be willing to go through the books and help. I had intended sharing them with We hope but she's departed.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:25, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
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Just noticed your RfA closed unsuccessfully. Sorry it didn't come through. That is WPs loss. But you made it till the buzzer, eh? Wasn't it fun? (hee hee) Meanwhile keep up the great work! Cheers! — Keithbob • Talk • 15:46, 1 October 2015 (UTC) |
Here I learned that Jeannette Rankin of Montana was the first woman in Congress! In November 1914, Montana passed an amendment granting women unrestricted voting rights, and she was elected to Congress two years later. In January 1918 she opened congressional debate on a Constitutional amendment granting universal suffrage to women... I suppose you already know this, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. I never would have guessed that Montana was the state with the first... Wbm1058 ( talk) 18:53, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
OK, all I'm in if any of youse guyz are! GA for Jeannette (pinging KingJeff1970 AND for Frank Sinatra! Montanabw (talk) 23:58, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing my edits. I apologize for separating the beginning of the definition from the end and reference. Was just trying to explain first the overall true breeding, then individual traits, although I know they are the flip side of the coin. Whenever I read something that I struggle to understand, (being a well-read sociologist, but just a science fan) and then *think* I figure out, I try to add any wording, links, etc. that I think might clarify for the next non-specialist who reads.
If you have time, was my blue eyes/brown eyes example way off? Overly simplistic?
Thanks, Peacedance ( talk) 19:47, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Even if Frank Sinatra becomes a FA, if the compromise is later undone then I for-see this blowing up into a huge issue possibly de-stabilizing the article. Is this a can to kick down the road, or can we start the discussion on user-space maybe? I am trying to avoid the tinderbox from igniting here. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 23:17, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi MBW. Why change a proper link to a red one? (before I revert) and if you do not like See in See also please change it, its nothing to do with me but the strange red link you keep putting back is mine!! Why? Your reasoning please. Eddaido ( talk) 05:10, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Just put up Beholder (horse) for GA. Be nice to have the green tag before she races on Oct 31. Anyone interested? Montanabw (talk) 07:29, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
In the word "re-sign," the hyphen is our friend in preventing misunderstandings, albeit fleeting ones. :) Regards, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 21:44, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
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Hello montana. I've a question for a categorization in WM Commons : what's the english name of this ? it's just under the category "bridle"; but it's not just a "bridle", I think ? Thank you ;) -- Tsaag Valren ( talk) 16:47, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh! The irony! Nylon rope halters are a) cheap (at least, if not name-branded by some guru) and b) totally unbreakable so if a horse is tied with one (and an equally strong lead rope) then goes completely batshit, they can't escape -- may break their neck first... but at the time they were developed, mustangs were cheap too. It's a rather dark history, really. You may find this article interesting. Montanabw (talk) 12:24, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsaag Valren ( talk • contribs) 23:27, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, longeing caveson? In English, caveson or cavesson is a noseband in [{English riding]]. I agree the Longeing cavesson (or lungeing) is superior. Montanabw (talk) 02:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
But doesn't the article say it's "in Billings, Montana." Tom Danson ( talk) 15:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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Just saw this on Twitter: [31]. -- Softlavender ( talk) 09:19, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
The one whose markings spelled 'horse' was my favorite one! White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:15, 11 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Ugh, thought it looked photoshopped. I wonder if there are any that are really marked that way. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 19:34, 11 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
A must-have tool. -- Rosiestep ( talk) 12:10, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing the pedigree template on Black Allan, I was afraid that if I removed the borders it wouldn't appear at all! And thanks for fixing the references as well. By the way, I created Morafic; you'll probably want to check it out. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 15:39, 12 October 2015 (UTC) |
It was nice to meet you at wikiconference USA. If you want to move into the area of folk music, let me know. -- Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Hey, Montana. Can you take a look at this: Robert Cowell? Does this satisfy the specific notability guideline for horse people? Because it surely does not satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG based on the two linked references. Does the equine project normally accept links to sports stats sites as "significant" coverage? Anyway, my interest in this is limited, but it popped up on my radar when another editor doing page patrol asked me if I thought my article was notable, to which my reaction was "huh?" Until two days ago, the page was a redirect I created to a 1948 Olympic athlete better known as "Bob Cowell". I am curious to hear your opinion on point in light of the recent addition of a specific notability guideline for horses and horse people to WP:NSPORTS. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 02:01, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Hiya. Your thoughts are welcome at WT:RFA#Two proposed RfCs on the viewdeleted userright. Hope you enjoyed the wikiconference, I enjoyed the video of the keynote. (P.S. This isn't canvassing, since you're one of the people in the target demographic ... you'll see what I mean.) - Dank ( push to talk) 17:45, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
We seem to have no article for white line disease--when I searched I got hoof wall separation disease and a bunch of other unrelated articles. Do we need one? If so, I'll create and write it (I googled and found several reliable sources; it seemed to be covered pretty broadly). I'm interested in it because my horse had it last year. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 21:04, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
I searched for it multiple times, along with "seedy toe", the slangy term for it. I'll try to get some references and do it tomorrow. I know I got a lot of high-quality hits when I searched for it on Google (The Horse and Equus articles, plus others that are also reliable). ADD: No mention of it at equine lameness. When mine had it he wasn't even lame...? White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 21:51, 14 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
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@ Montanabw: This user had erased the entire USPC page, so I reverted their edit and put it back up. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 19:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Here's the URL for the picture of Black Allan: [32]. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 14:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Montana! Thanks for tweaking the categories on the AAQHC. I'm actually at the Congress now, and hope to capture some pictures for the article but I won't be able to upload anything until I get back to Texas in 10 days. Anyway, there's a lot more that can be added so your collaboration is most welcome. Atsme 📞 📧 01:51, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Just thought I'd let you know that I went ahead and created the Tennessee Walking Horse National Celebration article. I know I'm going to have to keep a close eye because it'll probably be a vandalism target, but I thought I might as well do it because somebody else would if I didn't. Anyway, I put a whole section about the controversies stuff. Thought you might wanta check it out.. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 18:45, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
ADD: sorry if that seemed POV. It just seems screwy that the HSUS always releases a new Walking Horse abuse video perfectly in time to coincide with the beginning of the Celebration. 😝 I've watched both the attack and defense videos on YouTube too. I think the best way was how they showed Midnight Sun. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:22, 17 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
It's not the factual opposition and the actual stuff that goes on that I dislike; it's the people who've never seen a TWH in their lives and yet are all over the horse forums posting stuff they made up! I always remember a question on a forum where somebody asked what the big lick pads were made of. Somebody else answered and said they were made of rubber filled with sand and lead shavings, and weighed 15 pounds each. I've picked them up and I know that's not true! I just wish these people could see both sides of it, but people are always blind to what goes on in their own little world and quick to start attacking others. It's why most of the people posting "big lick torture" on Walking Horse videos are Quarter Horse people, and most of the people posting "four-beat lope! Dead tail!" on QH videos are TWH people.😣 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 16:17, 18 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I remember seeing a video put up by a PETA member that was titled "Shocking!!!! Horse Abuse!!!" and consisted of reining horses spinning, a trainer hobble breaking a young horse, and a dressage horse cantering. I laughed through the whole thing. That was their idea of abuse. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 23:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I've noticed, and seen abuse in most horse sports I've seen. PETA's just a lot of nuts in my opinion. They claim to help animals and yet they want all pit bulls dead because one bit Ingrid Newkirk; they pass out propaganda in the form of "Your Mommy Kills Animals!" comic books to children in elementary school, and call fish "sea kittens". I'm surprised people can even take them seriously. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 01:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Requested move at Talk:Calf_(disambiguation)#Requested_move_18_October_2015. Montanabw (talk) 23:09, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Will you be following the returns tonight? Freddiem ( talk) 23:48, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
There's yet another new user editing the United States Pony Clubs page, and that's all their contrib history shows. They had put the lead-in to the rest of the article under a heading titled 'summary' so I reverted it. I think they did something else too, but it was minor and I didn't revert it. I sent them a talk page message explaining why we don't use double headers since the article title IS the header for the lead-in, and suggesting they look at other articles for examples or join WPEQ. I just thought I'd let you know... White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 01:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
New Mexico museums need help in improving or adding their content. I see that there's a list Museums in New Mexico, which is a helpful start, and also a wiki Museum Project that offers guidelines for good article content, which is also helpful, and we have an opportunity in November, at our New Mexico Association of Museums meeting in Carlsbad, to get museums on board with this. I can create a worksheet/template based on the Museum Project guidelines, that will help museums get someone to write their article, but issues will arise with formatting and making info boxes and collections galleries, etc. In my ideal world there would be someone out there who could come to the conference and work with interested museums to help them get their acts together. Also, in my ideal world there would be someone interested in being a Wikipedian-in-Residence who could help us plow through that list of Museums in New Mexico, or one or more volunteers who would help us working remotely. Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you. Mimi.roberts ( talk) 15:25, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi. That was an interesting last edit of yours on the Horse page. A quick check of other livestock shows the same situation at Sheep at least. Am I correct in thinking that the title in the taxbox should match as close as possible the title of the article?DrChrissy (talk) 13:27, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Hello Montanabw, thanks for helping out with checking those links for usability. I noticed that the one for Anaconda Copper Mine (Montana) still shows a 404 error. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find an active replacement and the info page for this particular video is very short. Anyway, just a fyi - maybe you have a better idea where to look for an active link. GermanJoe ( talk) 03:58, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
With this ever dramatic world and winter coming, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day (ease that tension)! This e-tea's remains have been e- composted SwisterTwister talk 05:53, 22 October 2015 (UTC) |
Hi Montanabw, thankyou for your recent contributions at some longevity-related AfD's.
I am in agreement that instead of nominating countless supercentenarian articles for deletion, a more general discussion needs to take place about what standards need to be met for a subject to "qualify for notability". For example, should people in the following categories be considered notable: World's oldest people/women/men titleholders, oldest ever person from country X, Top 100 oldest ever people/woman/men ever, etc.
The main concern I have right now is that a WP:BATTLEGROUND appears to have developed around longevity-related articles. I think some users are trying to counteract the addition of WP:OR and WP:TRIVIA to some articles by other users, but have almost ended up pushing too far, and seem to have a bias against them. Unfortunately, in several past AfD's, RfC's, and other discussions, these editors always contribute and this may, at times, lead to a false representation of the true consensus of the wider community, which I feel has damaged Wikipedia's articles on the subject of longevity.
Therefore, I'd like it if more editors can get involved in this project. May I ask how we can go about having a discussion about supercentenarian notability and WP:GNG? Thanks -- Ollie231213 ( talk) 00:18, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the wrap-up on her racing career. Given her pedigree and performance I suspect that we have not heard the last of her. Expect to see a Brandi's Kitten or a Tap It Brandi in a couple of years time. Tigerboy1966 10:11, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I want to thank you for restoring many of the Montana-related links that had been reverted. I was very discouraged to see so many hours of my work simply disappear. You make a positive difference here and I'm grateful! Guanaco55 ( talk) 15:40, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
I just created Merry Go Boy. I have a question about the pedigrees, though--on one like his where some horses are unknown, is it better to leave the formatting tags (mffm) or put a question mark where the name would go to show that the ancestor is unknown? White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 15:51, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. 😊 I may end up writing one about Albert Dement; he keeps popping up and he was apparently the Hank Weiscamp of Walkers. Google turns up several good refs, books and stuff. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 18:27, 27 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
Rainbow butterfly unicorn kittens. Really. It is. Ealdgyth - Talk 01:29, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
It is not just this article, but I am using it as an example. The formatting is off. External links is in small type and the section header is far off to the right. Some articles have the same problem with references sections. How do we fix these? ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:45, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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with style="clear:all;" is used instead, it normally behaves as you would expect because div is a block element.Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 16:08, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I am OK with your bold move, but would you care to assist with the links redirected from the old title? (The others are probably not worth the trouble) [33]? Montanabw (talk) 22:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I created a stub for Nyquist (horse) and plan to expand it after I'm done watching TV (there's another horse I'm watching). Am happy to do the pedigree section. Will you have a look? Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 21:01, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
I tried to add an infobox but had to remove it...😝 I screwed it up someway. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 22:51, 31 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I was going to do that too and somebody beat me! I loved watching him win today though, he is the best horse in my lifetime so far. I was born too late for Secretariat. 😉 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 00:17, 1 November 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
I've reverted it back in: sorry! -- Rubbish computer ( Trick: or treat?) 23:17, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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Is it OK on the Walking Horse articles to provide an external link to a YouTube video of the horse (Midnight Sun and Strolling Jim specifically, there's actual footage of them on YouTube and may be some of Merry Go Boy too---not sure)? Without getting slammed for "spamming"? I mean, create an external links section, and put the link to the specific video there. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 23:59, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, will probably do so tomorrow. The videos are blurry, but then again I'm sort of surprised they even bothered to take them back then. I think there may be one for Wing Commander too. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 01:00, 3 November 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
[34] Join in if you want. Regardless, I thought you should know it's happening. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 14:33, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
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Even if it's outside your wheelhouse, I could use a pair of copyediting eyes on Louise de Broglie, Countess d'Haussonville, newly created by me on Englsh Wikipedia. (There's a French Wikipédia version, which provided some inspiration and a couple factoids, although I mostly re-sourced this to English language RS while expanding and rewriting it.) I can't figure out how to do the fr:Wikipedia linky thing, which I used to be able to do. Could you have a whack at it? Hoping to bring this to DYK. The sitter is fascinating and her portrait ridiculously famous. Thanks if you can help Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 02:56, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Do you care if I put an AfD on this article? The topic is already covered in rodeo, it's a POV PETA propaganda piece, and it was written by a sock. I've thought of trying to edit it but don't know where to start. It's a piece of crap. I normally don't like deleting articles but... White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 17:58, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I may post at the Teahouse or somewhere to get more opinions, thanks. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 20:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Looks like the consensus is keep. I removed the stuff that used Peta as a source (they're not exactly reliable) and am planning to do more tomorrow. May be a decent article of it can be balanced out. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 02:15, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
There appears to be somebody using the equine podiatry article to self-promote now. Al 21 of their edits (since they joined a year ago) are to it last night. I undid a little of what they had done, and sent them a message about self-promoting requesting that they use the talk page to propose changes. Gag. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 15:36, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. By the way, I wrote something about Caspian horses on your horse breeds snark page a while back: I'm thinking of creating something like myself! White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 02:19, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
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I just created this so feel free to look it over. It's a stub right now, but I hope to add sections and more stuff later. Also you may get a laugh out of this. I'm going out riding in a couple of minutes, but I'll be back on later. 🐴 White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 21:35, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I think they do have cutting, reining and some other working Western classes at the Morgan Grand National; I'll see if I can find a web class list later and add more. 😃 I'm thinking about moving those "glitter pony" things to a whole subpage. I bet there are tons of them out there. ADD: I created this one on Sunday; you might want to look it over too. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 23:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
In this article its box says it started in 1988 and that is up year the article has winners for but at the bottom it was categorized 'Recurring sporting events established in 1935'. Can you confirm this race started in 1988? I changed the categories to say 1988. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:10, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I have sent you one. — Ched : ? 21:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm back with a new name. WAF instead of WAM, but it was the closest I could get. White Arabian Filly ( Neigh) 21:27, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Been wanting to do this for a while! White Arabian Filly ( Neigh) 02:26, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
I apologize for not being more active on the project but the ArbCom fiasco has drained me of motivation and is one heckuva time sink. I've been reading the comments and edit summaries and as soon as this mess closes, I'll be able to focus where I should be focused. 😐 Atsme 📞 📧 19:15, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Finally got a little time to do some work, and created Dry Doc to go with the Doc O'Lena, Poco Lena x Doc Bar magic. My declaration is that he was owned by my late brother-in-law, and just before he sold Dry to the King Ranch, we seriously considered his offer to sell us 1/2 interest but conceded when a much higher counter offer came to the table. I provided only factual info when I created the article. Do you think I need to make any other declarations? Atsme 📞 📧 02:08, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
OK, dammit, you just sent me down a research geekery rabbit hole for an hour! (see timestamps!) But, I found this cool site which even has a "calculator" - an interactive flow chart of sorts. I just added it to my toolbox. Now, to go find those WP policy pages I always wish I could find... Montanabw (talk) 23:01, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey, Montanabw — I'm thinking of bringing Robert Durst and The Jinx (miniseries) to GA status over the next few months, as I'm the majority contributor to both articles (which are well-trafficked but very stable). I can't tell you how much I learned from our collaborative work and your helpful hand-holding, and I'm pretty confident that the process of conforming footnotes and cleaning up ledes will be pretty easy for me (my contributions to those articles predate meeting you but the sourcing is very sound). I did wonder about a couple things: is there a strong prejudice at GA against articles without images? It's particularly hard to find them for Robert Durst, unless I salt the article with generic milieu images which may not add great EV. I also have a potentially big sourcing problem for The Jinx, in that one section I and others find very useful (the cast in order of appearance) was in fact contributed by someone who watched the series intently and took chronological notes. While accurate, it isn't secondarily sourced; unless I construct some footnote acknowledging that it comes directly from the broadcast (does that count as WP:OR?) that section risks being dropped altogether, which would be a loss to Durstaholics. Anyway, I know this is not your bailiwick or particular area of interest but would appreciate your advice. GA is also very backed up right now; I obviously want to contribute reviews there as well to build up my karma. Is that a good plan to help speed the process? Thanks again for everything — Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 02:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Please see Caste system in India talk page. VictoriaGrayson Talk 21:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Dear , I reverted your revert of Grant's Farm, I understand that you did in good faith, but those two templates, {Infobox Zoo} and {Zoos} are different, and not the same, that's why I removed one Template and at the same time added the need for [[Category:Articles needing infobox zoo]].
If you have an interest in Zoos, and those articles, maybe you can consider joining me with the work at Wikipedia:WikiProject Zoo, where Im presently the only active member and contributor. Dan Koehl ( talk) 14:12, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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Sure. Why not? It's nothing I know anything about, which is one good reason to investigate. What's there already looks pretty impressive, especially the stuff involving quantitative measurements and test runs. Finetooth ( talk) 02:41, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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I just created the stub article Missoula Timberjacks. (My three favorite sports that have articles that I like working on- Golf, Baseball, and Horse racing) The reason I'm writing is because I know you do lots of work on Montana related articles. There is both a Montana Sports and Missoula templates but both of these I didn't add to the article because neither contained any defunct sports franchises. Should they? Please give me your opinion, and if you think they should be included, how we would modify the templates. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:44, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Happy Thanksgiving! White Arabian Filly ( Neigh) 16:20, 25 November 2015 (UTC) |
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And some pie! But seriously, I self-nominated for a Standard Triple Crown and belatedly realized I don't deserve GA credit for Ahmed Zayat, for which you obviously did the heavy lifting. I shouldn't list it on my User page either. I can and will bring another article to GA in the coming months, and get my little prize for it. Thank you for the help, encouragement, and inspiration you've offered me here on Wikipedia this year! Happy Thanksgiving Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 22:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Vesuvius Dogg: You DO deserve GA credit for Zayat, Picard always needs Riker! And to all, BURP! Thank you! Montanabw (talk) 06:29, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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Hi there, this looks like it's probably the full url that you marked as incomplete in the Abu Farwa article. [37] I added it to article, but you should probably check just to make sure. Cmr08 ( talk) 10:42, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
I have created two new articles, Tennessee Walking Horse National Museum and Calsonic Arena. Pretty short, feel free to expand. The museum thing is apparently unique and has been covered in a lot of Tennessee travel and culture books (many more than I cited-will add more later) and CA is the home not only of the TWHNC, but a lot of rodeos, 4-H shows, dog shows, etc. plus the Great American Mule and Donkey show! It was redlinked in several places. Also, if you think we could use external links to videos to illustrate more of the articles like the one I found for the TWH article (I added it in the EL section), let me know. I watch a lot of YouTube and there is so much crap, but every once in a while there's a good video that actually teaches something. It's my idea that one good video could be externally linked in the EL section of the appropriate article to illustrate stuff that's hard to explain in words, like the gaits of the gaited breeds or dressage tests...etc, etc, especially since we don't have appropriately licensed videos to go in the bodies of most of them. Just some ideas!🐴 White Arabian Filly ( Neigh) 23:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Thought you'd like to give it your blessings, . I am a member of that organization so in order to avoid potential COI accusations would you be so kind as to give it a look-see? Atsme 📞 📧 15:47, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Dear Montanabw,
FYI: Because the two articles Rondo in C minor (Bruckner) and Intermezzo in D minor (Bruckner) are, since their beginning, bogged down in repeated, endless discussions about soundness of its content, discography, infobox, referencing, etc. I have decided to take the bull by the horns. See Talk:Rondo in C minor (Bruckner)#An article, which started on a shaky base and Talk:Intermezzo in D minor (Bruckner)#An article, which started on a shaky base.
Thank you for your repeated, appreciated help, -- Réginald alias Meneerke bloem ( To reply) 16:19, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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MountainPleasure said they asked an admin about changing username (I assume through email) and were told it's not problematic. They also sent me a message saying the pic on the article looks like a Walker, which it does to me too, and I'm the one who found it on Commons. They are hoping to upload some pics soon, so watch for that... I found some Google book sources and parked them at the article talk as well. White Arabian Filly ( Neigh) 23:53, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
They need to change their user name per WP:COI... whoever they asked doesn't understand policy, they can't be named as if they represent the association or imply they are connected to it, it's against the rules. Montanabw (talk) 23:54, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
As you are a very active Wikipedian who assists at the dispute resolution noticeboard, may I ask you for commentaries on Talk:Toilet-related_injuries_and_deaths#Elvis.27s_death_on_the_toilet and Talk:Graceland#650.2C000_visitors from a neutral point of view. See also this discussion and this this arbitration case. Onefortyone ( talk) 13:55, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
why are not classified by countries. as in neighbor countries. this is better be classified as Template:Spanish horses, Template:Portuguese horses-- Vvven ( talk) 22:10, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
ok I think it will be difficult to win the discussion, better i not say him anything-- Vvven ( talk) 03:23, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
May I suggest you leave such obvious attempts at chilling up on your page? It appears it may be needful to hold Kingofaces accountable for his actions, and It is easier to do so with the garbage in plain view. Thanks, and thanks for editing. I have long felt that the glyphosate article is the key to the problem, since it's where the money is concentrated. I suggest that the time has come to consider remaking the Roundup article, merged by Jytdog some years ago into glyphosate under dubious circumstances. I have now watch listed your page, something I should have done previously. Thanks again. Jus da fax 06:29, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
First message was mildly annoying but not unreasonable: [39] Second message, made 16 minutes later, was not appropriate, in my view: [40]. Montanabw (talk) 06:41, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Montanabw, I need a horse expert, and you're the lucky person who came to mind. Since I have no horse sense at all, would you mind taking a look at: Jack Brizendine? Thanks! 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:00, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
In general, it's kind of a judgement call. WP:GNG is the base policy. There is a WP:NSPORTS page of guidelines for sporting figures that includes rodeo, equestrianism (meaning the International level, mostly) and horse racing. (Full disclosure: I wrote the horse racing one and updated the other two!) These guidelines help the non-aficionado determine what is most likely a "slam dunk" for notability. So, while Hall of Famers or Olympic medalists are almost always going to be notable, that doesn't necessarily mean others aren't; it depends on the level of outside, neutral, third-party coverage. I called in the troops because I think Brizendine is on the line: I found one article about him in the Quarter Horse Journal online, he did seem to accumulate quite a show record, and then there were a couple articles prior to his obituaries in some online sources that seem to be mostly promotional. It got prod-tagged because it basically read like a hagiographic memorial to the guy, but just because the article is poor quality doesn't mean he's not notable. But, for example, I know the Arabian horse world and I have a real good gut instinct about who is notable and who is "just a successful trainer" but not up to the WP:GNG standard. On the other hand, ALL of us have a real good gut feeling for when someone is just trying to use WP to promote their own business (like that gal who created Western dressage off her own web site and got all mad at us when we told her she couldn't copy and paste). I won't AfD Brisendine, but if someone else does, I think it would be an interesting and useful discussion and I won't fight to keep it in. Montanabw (talk) 19:38, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Well, if all Olympic competitors are considered notable, what about their coaches/trainers who got them to the Olympics? Are they notable? What about the coaches/trainers whose students are medal winners? Also, keep in mind that the AQHJ has more than 45,000 paid subscribers. AQHA is the world's largest equine breed registry and membership organization with close to 2,500,000 registered QH, over 263,500 paid members (actually down from 10 years ago when it was over 353,000), and over 711,000 American Quarter Horse owners. The All-American Quarter Horse Congress alone had over 20,000 entries in 2014, probably more in 2015 but they haven't published those figures yet. Granted, horse shows are probably less exciting to watch than a hockey game - we seldom see a fist fight - but that doesn't mean they are any less challenging or competitive. A lot of the exhibitors who make it to the Congress probably have 6 figures invested in the horse, rig, show attire, tack, training, etc. just getting there. Cutting is even more expensive when you factor in training at $2,000+/mo. but competitors can earn big bucks today...like over $8 Million in lifetime earnings. [44]. Not a bad living/ I guess the point I'm trying to make is that showing horses is not a cake walk and is as much a sport as any other. Unfortunately, horse shows don't have much spectator appeal which is why they never really caught-on as a televised event like Monday Night Football. Atsme 📞 📧 03:40, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Ok - Montanabw and White Arabian Filly - I was doing a little copy-editing on a film article and noticed a section at the bottom of the page I had not seen before - Related Articles. I checked other films to see if that section was appropriate since we already have wikilinks, and discovered that it's in widespread use as exampled here: Elvis Presley filmography. I posted a question to the coordinator for Project Films and am now waiting for his response. What do you think about such a section for the horse articles? Atsme 📞 📧 18:12, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
American Paint Horse is an older article but not horrible (I worked on it years ago, it's been pretty, um, stable... bad pun...). It would benefit from more footnoting and would be fun to get to GAN some day. Though they did originate as a place to land cropout Quarter horses, IMHO, Paints are a now a breed (with a color preference), not just a color breed, based primarily on their requirement for previously-registered stock and allowing non-patterned breeding stock to be registered -- though that said, now that AQHA dumped its white rule, there isn't much reason for APHA to be a separate "breed" (but I digress). The palomino, though, is genetically IMPOSSIBLE to breed "true" because the creme gene is an incomplete dominant, so any palomino registry is merely a "color breed" registry and whatever standards they claim to have, and they allow so many different breeds in, they really don't have much in the way of standards, "palomino" is only a color and not a real breed trait at all. (Full disclosure: I currently own a palomino half-Arab, and I do love the color, but it ain't a "breed" - LOL). It would make sense perhaps to do articles on the Palomino associations, though, and maybe even the color breeds council, because it is big business. I am open to discussion, always, but I have real issues with calling something a "breed" when it's just a color -- (do you remember way back in maybe the 70s or early 80s when someone tried to start a bay horse "registry"?). I mean, obviously they now make a lot of money, but one can't fly in the face of science. But trot over to color breed and feel free to start a discussion there if you'd like! ;-) Montanabw (talk) 04:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Personally, I kind of agree with you about Paints, but I don't feel that way about Appaloosas, as the color is integral to the breed in a way that it isn't for the Paints. And I really don't feel that way about the European breeds like the Haflinger or the Friesian (in theory either of those two breeds could decide to admit a weird color if one existed, which I don't think happens with Haflingers (all chestnuts) but does in the Friesian (where most are black, but the occasional recessive chestnut pops up occasionally...). But how to we clarify the difference or be consistent? I've had huge debates over at the landrace and other articles over the line between a feral breed, a landrace breed and a "standardized" breed -- given that all of them are human constructs (DNA can only verify parentage and hint at ancient ancestry -- none are like species where DNA says this is a donkey, not a horse). One could argue that breeds with an open stud book aren't breeds, but then, even Quarter Horses still allow TBs in... and almost all the warmbloods, for example. But while we have genuine rare breeds (like the Marsh tacky), we also have all sorts of stuff like the Moyle horse or the Camarillo White Horse or (worse yet) the Virginia Highlander where you basically have one guy's breeding program = a "breed" (My own informal rule is if they show up in a major breed encyclopedia, we take 'em...but I really have to hold my nose sometimes) Montanabw (talk) 21:20, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi there Montana, I'd like a little feedback on an article I've been working on, Daniel Holtzclaw. If he was a serial rapist that had recently raped 13 women, you'd think that you would have heard his name, right? As a matter of fact he was convicted just this month and not only did the media ignore the affair, women's activist groups have ignored the whole thing as well. Can you guess why?
I'm slowly going through the article making improvements but there is more to do. Here's my question: Considering that just one rape of a white, middle class woman would generate coverage, do you think that the article should devote a few lines to each of the women? See this mag coverage for an example: [50] What do you think?
Also, the article title needs to change. I've worked on many similar articles and the article never uses the name of the rapist, though in this case we might need to use something that does include his name... Thoughts?
You can reply on the article talk page if you are interested in helping. Thanks. Gandydancer ( talk) 19:02, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
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Have been watching this discussion. Your latest comment hits a nerve with me since I just ran into a very similar mindset/situation. If interested, see this discussion on my talk page. I am as equally stunned in regard to the level of trust in combination with such a shocking thought process. Best, -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 22:00, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
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