Thank you, User:AniMate, for your commentary on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laurens Johannes Griessel-Landau page. There you recommend to "merge the event into the article". I would agree, but the problem is that User:Lochdale is frequently deleting most of my edits concerning Elvis Presley. Some months ago, I tried to reinstate this version of the "male friendships" paragraph. But it was repeatedly removed by Lochdale. See [1], [2]. The same thing happened with the Griessel-Landau case, which once was part of the Elvis article. See [3]. I created the Laurens Johannes Griessel-Landau article in order to solve the problem by excluding the material from the Presley page. As you are not part of the edit war, may I ask you to include the following paragraph in the FBI files section of the Elvis Presley article, if you agree:
This is much shorter than the Griessel-Landau article and summarizes the main facts. However, it could well be that User:Lochdale will delete the whole paragraph from the Elvis article, as he frequently did in the past. See also this recent discussion. Onefortyone 19:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Laurens Johannes Griessel-Landau was the name of a swindler and blackmailer who represented himself to be a medical doctor and skin specialist. At the end of November 1959 he was hired by Elvis Presley to make skin treatments, but in December 1959 he made homosexual passes at the singer and his friends. After Presley's decision to discontinue the treatments, Griessel-Landau claimed to be in the possession of compromising photographs and tape recordings and endeavored to extort money from the star. The case was dealt with strictly confidentially and referred to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
According to one of the best documented FBI files on Elvis Presley, the popular singer was the victim of Laurens Johannes Griessel-Landau of Johannesburg, South Africa, who was hired on 27 November 1959 by Presley as an alleged doctor specialist in the field of dermatology in Bad Nauheim, Germany, when the star was in the military service. During his skin treatments, which involved Presley's shoulders and face and took place in the singer's quarters, the man had made several homosexual passes at Elvis and his friends. According to the FBI files, Griessel-Landau
This drove Griessel-Landau into rage and he decided to extort sums of money from the singer or to ruin his career. The case was referred to the FBI. Elvis "was interviewed on 28 December 1959 concerning his complaint that he was the victim of blackmail..." According to the FBI files, Griessel-Landau "threatened to expose Presley by photographs and tape recordings which are alleged to present Presley in compromising situations." An investigation determined that Griessel Landau was not a medical doctor.
Presley didn't take the matter to court. According to the FBI files,
Because things did not turn out the way he expected, Griessel-Landau endeavored to play the case down in letters he wrote on 27 and 28 December claiming that he sympathized with Elvis and that he had decided not to take action against the singer. The FBI files say that finally,
Then the blackmailer
In his book The FBI Files on Elvis Presley (2001), Thomas Fensch reproduces actual texts from numerous FBI reports dating from 1959 to 1981, which represent a "microcosm [of Presley's] behind-the-scenes life." The author reprints, in the appendix, many original documents as full-page illustrations, showing exactly how the FBI handled such cases. Pages 30-34 deal with Presley being the victim of Griessel-Landau. Among the documents the author provides are copies of the original FBI files concerning the case and letters from Griessel-Landau to Elvis and one of his secretaries.
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Elvis. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Elvis/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Elvis/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 02:40, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Would you please answer the question at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Elvis/Workshop#Question_to_Onefortyone. Fred Bauder 19:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. As I pointed out in my note, my comment was based primarily on the matters identified by the arbitrator who wrote the decision, who had picked up on one issue in particular. I wasn't saying there weren't other issues that could also be mentioned in the decision. Newyorkbrad 21:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.
For the Arbitration committee. Cowman109 Talk 20:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Want to actually join us? :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Your edits to List of bisexual people are appreciated, but please note that per Wikipedia's reliable sources policy, wiki sites can't be considered reliable sources, including Wikipedia itself. If a certain fact appears in more than one article/list, it's far better to copy/paste the references for that fact into both articles than to link to one article from another (as a source). Regarding James Dean's orientation, it is clearly controversial and as such I believe it fits better under the "Disputed" header in the list, as with any historical figure whose biographers are divided on the question (Eleanor Roosevelt, Alexander the Great etc.). Thanks. LeaHazel : talk : contribs 13:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Blocked: 24 hours for edit warring on Randolph Scott. Although you may not have violated the letter of the 3 revert rule, Edit warring is prohibited anyway, and you have something like 9 reverts in the past week. Thatcher131 02:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Under the terms of your Probation I am banning you from the articles Randolph Scott ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Elvis Presley ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Nick Adams ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for a period of two months. You may make suggestions on the talk pages. You have been edit warring at Randolph Scott. Your conduct on Elvis Presley and Nick Adams has been disruptive, for example this edit is almost a complete reversion across 14 good faith edits by other editors; similarly this edit is an almost complete reversion across 10 other edits. In the future, please use the dispute resolution process such as request for comment or third opinion rather than edit warring and reverting. Thatcher131 02:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
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Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo reported Onefortyone ( talk · contribs) for probation violations at arbitration enforcement. I was curious about the number of single purpose accounts edit-warring with Onefortyone on multiple celebrity accounts, and asked Dmcdevit to look into it. He found the above list of confirmed sockpuppets. All are banned, except Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo who was blocked for a week pending review of the situation. Thatcher131 00:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Confirmed. Dmcdevit· t 08:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Dear Onefortyone: Hello there. My attention has recently been drawn to your editing on articles such as Nick Adams (and the other articles listed above). You and I have conversed at great length in the past, and I have advised you very specifically that material such as unsupported inferences across multiple sources (that is, original research built out of multiple references) and material relating to individuals' private lives does not belong in Wikipedia biographies. I have given you this advice multiple times, and I feel I do not need to remind you of this, as I suspect you are, by now, perfectly aware of the matter after having been told many times by myself and other administrators. I admit that as a consequence I am rapidly losing patience with you. The Onefortyone Arbitration case specifically refers to your use of sources to support original research, and inclusion of material on celebrities you consider to be gay; and it also includes the remedy that you may be banned from articles in the event of disruption, as you will know from the recent banning and unbanning undertaken just prior to this message.
I am, as a consequence, telling you for the final time to cease behaviour of inserting tenuous information about Elvis Presley's sex life. This information does not belong on Wikipedia, and more importantly, original research disguised by a veneer of references is also not worthy of encyclopaedic inclusion. Furthermore, I cannot tolerate your periodical edit skirmishes with users, regardless of who those users are or whether they are sockpuppets. As a consequence, should you continue this behaviour, I am left with no other alternative than to implement the following ban as per the Arbcom ruling:
I sincerely regret having to take such action, as I would have hoped it would not come to this. However, as it stands, you leave me with little option other than to do so. Please take this as an opportunity to contribute in a sensible manner to these articles, and consider this your final warning. Thank you very much. Yours sincerely, -- NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 21:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Dear NicholasTurnbull, I do not understand the unfriendly notes above. As I can see from your contribution history, you seem to be not fully aware of what has actually happened.
You said that you have advised me "very specifically that material such as unsupported inferences across multiple sources (that is, original research built out of multiple references) and material relating to individuals' private lives does not belong in Wikipedia biographies."
Most Wikipedia biographies include such sections. See, for instance, Errol Flynn where the actor's private life and "post-death controversies" are intensively discussed. James Stewart, Marlon Brando, John Wayne and many other actors have their "personal life" and "controversies" sections. There is even a "Rumours and Controversies" section in the Mozart article. Could you please explain to me, what is so different with Elvis Presley?
Furthermore, you said that " The Onefortyone Arbitration case specifically refers to your use of sources to support original research, and inclusion of material on celebrities you consider to be gay; and it also includes the remedy that you may be banned from articles in the event of disruption..."
You further said that I have inserted "tenuous information about Elvis Presley's sex life. This information does not belong on Wikipedia, and more importantly, original research disguised by a veneer of references is also not worthy of encyclopaedic inclusion."
You also said that you cannot tolerate my "periodical edit skirmishes with users, regardless of who those users are or whether they are sockpuppets."
User:Northmeister seems to be identical with, or somehow related to, User:Ted Wilkes alias multiple hardbanned User:DW. I cannot assume good faith any more. These are the facts:
To conclude: Northmeister's recent edit certainly proves that this user must be identical with hardbanned user Ted Wilkes alias Duisburg Dude alias User:DW alias alias IP 66.61.69.65 alias IP 24.165.212.202.
It should be further added that Onefortyone was on heavy fire by Ted Wilkes and his sockpuppets from 2005 on, and it was Wilkes who requested this arbitration in 2005. However, there were subsequent arbcom cases concerning the same matter (see this case of December 2005 and this newer arbcom decision) which proved that Onefortyone's edits are O.K. Consequently, Wilkes was banned from the topics in question. For instance, in the case of 2006 the arbcom said that Ted Wilkes has "repeatedly insisted on an unrealistic standard with respect to negative information regarding celebrities that is current in popular culture, gossip and rumor." Therefore, according to the arbcom, Wilkes was "banned from making any edit related to a person's alleged homosexuality or bisexuality," and he was placed indefinitely on Wikipedia:Probation. If Northmeister is identical with Ted Wilkes, who was banned from Wikipedia for one year, he has clearly violated his probation. The third, more recent arbcom case concerning the Elvis Presley article confirmed that my "editing has substantially improved from that in the earlier arbitration cases. A sampling of edits shows reference to reliable sources without overstating of their content." Furthermore, the arbcom said that my opponent Lochdale, who, to my mind, is also somehow related to Ted Wilkes, "has removed large blocks of sourced material from Elvis Presley" and that he "shows evidence of misunderstanding of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view." Therefore, Lochdale was "banned indefinitely from editing articles which concern Elvis Presley."
All this is certainly not a coincidence. To my mind, there can be no doubt that Northmeister and presumably some other IPs and sockpuppets are identical with, or related to, Ted Wilkes alias multiple-hardbanned User:DW. Northmeister, as a supposed sockpuppet of Wilkes, clearly placed material related to Elvis Presley'a alleged homo- or bisexuality in Talk:Elvis Presley (see [202] and removed a well-sourced quote dealing with Natalie Wood's remark that Presley and the Memphis Mafia members might be homosexual (see [203]). This means that he has clearly violated Ted Wilkes's probation. The arbcom says that Wilkes is "banned from making any edit related to a person's alleged homosexuality or bisexuality". See [204]. May I ask some administrators to put a stop to the disruptive behavior of this user. Onefortyone 17:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
There are several big questions to be answered, like: are other users allowed to remove large blocks of well sourced material from article pages simply becaue this material is not in line with their personal opinion? Are users allowed to include hyperlinks to fan sites in Wikipedia articles? Are other users allowed to use different sockpuppets in order to harass others and to avoid the 3RR and remove well-sourced material they do not like? I don't think so, but this is what my opponent(s) frequently do(es).
Just one example. Northmeister first removed this passage from Graceland claiming that the commentary was "not appropriate for opening" in order to substitute this one concerning trivia about Bush and Koizumi's visit in its stead. If the first commentary is "not appropriate for opening", then the other one he included is? I don't think so. Therefore, I have moved this material to another section of the article. I even created a new section entitled "National Historic Landmark". What happened? Northmeister repeatedly reverted the article to the version he prefers. See [205], [206]. He even says in the edit summary, "revert second reversion by user onefortyone ... without discussion." For the discussion, see [207]. It should also be noted that Northmeister mangled some direct quotes by removing these passages from the article. This is not O.K., and it is certainly no coincidence that the same deleting tactics were used over and over again by Ted Wilkes in former edit wars. Onefortyone 11:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
There is much evidence that I am still the target of my old opponent Wilkes and his new sockpuppets. See also this older statement by administrator Redwolf24 who said that Wilkes and Wyss were harassing me, "and I've seen them go out of their way to revert him." The arbcom was of the same opinion. To my mind, it is no coincidence that the same deleting tactics concerning the same topics now continue. The arbcom clearly says that "Onefortyone's editing has substantially improved from that in the earlier arbitration cases. A sampling of edits shows reference to reliable sources without overstating of their content. To a greater extent he allows the reader to draw their own conclusions." See [212]. So why are my edits frequently removed by one or two other users? The problem is that there seems to be no administrator who is willing to take the trouble to carefully investigate all the diffs I have given above and all the sources I have used, as this certainly will take a lot of time. The messages I put on the administrators' noticeboard have been automatically removed some days ago. Nothing happened. I am using several independent sources for my contributions, among them standard biographies, books on the rock 'n' roll era, publications by eyewitnesses, modern university studies, journal articles etc. etc. (see [213]), but my contributions are frequently deleted. Instead, the other editors are including hyperlinks to fan sites in the article. Is this O.K.? I don't think so. I am at a loss what to do. Onefortyone 18:43, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
"Could it even be that User:Rikstar is identical with Northmeister? I hope not"... You can sleep easy at night, 141, I'm not, but will you believe me? I'll swear on The Bible if you like. Then again, I am an atheist. But seriously, I only have problems with inappropriate material and, hand on heart and with all due respect, quite a bit has appeared in various articles from your good self. Your wikipedia history, to any neutral person, would seem a little bit controversial and perhaps a reliable source from which to conclude that some of your edits have been inappropriate. Rikstar 00:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
It seems to me that a good deal of your objections to edits you listed under this heading in the Presley discussion page have been addressed: His father's laziness, Gladys' s booze problem, Parker's influence and reputation, Presley's sex life (or lack of it), his adultery, etc. Other points not flattering Presley have also been included: the Nixon meeting and his intent to have Mike Stone killed. In the absence of further details from you, your assertion that the article "still requires a lot of clean up" does seem gratuitous. Rikstar 05:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
"Sorry, LaraLove, I simply forgot to sign in. This contribution to your talk page was a summary of some points which were insufficiently discussed on Talk:Elvis Presley. As everybody can see, my behavior was not disruptive. However, it seems that I have still some problems with some other users, as Rikstar's reaction shows, because I have a more critical view of Elvis, the Elvis cult and the world-wide Elvis industry than most other contributors to the Elvis article. See also [215] and [216]. I must admit that Rikstar, during the last few weeks, has improved the Elvis article and even included some of my suggestions, but the objections I have raised against the present state of the article are still valid and not minor. Onefortyone 20:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC)"
The above post has been noted. It is unfortunate, and convenient for you, that you didn't also put up my response to the original contribution so LaraLove could judge them together. It is also noted that you include a link to totally false allegations about myself and Northmeister being one and the same. I have denied this, you haven't responded, let alone apologize for smearing my character and reputation. And now you repeat the claim. Rikstar 23:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello Onefortyone, how are you? I've been thinking (I know, you might not think I do much, given the crummy, biased state of this article)... If the Presley article is so POV and controlled by biased Elvis fans as you claim, then feel free to make all the edits you like. Your ideas seem to be wasted just appearing on the talk page. You are obviously intelligent, erudite and can write excellent prose that is unimpeachably cited. Other people are freely editing the article, so why don't you? If there is a problem that does not allow you to do this, please state what it is, and maybe I, and others, can help. Thank you. Rikstar 11:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
You ask on the Elvis talk page whether I am a sock puppet for another user. I am not. And I object that you should respond to my post by trying to cast aspersions on me. But then that's what you do. You cast aspertions. Hence your constant attempt to edit the Elvis article to show he was homosexual. WHO CARES? Even if he was that isn't what he is famous for so an article about his life and work wouldn't warrant such a claim. But even if it did, your attempts at changing every sentence on the article to gay innuendo is just plain daft and your constant attempts at doing this are simply annoying. Get over yourself and learn to listen to the consensus. Fooey-fooey-flop-chops 07:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Let's take a different approach to this article. You keep reverting my edits and that can only cause edit wars. Let me know why specifically you object to my edits so we can address concerns in common, open, and cordial manner. Per the Presley page, I support your recent edit, but removed it to talk it over in the talk page; if you revise it per my objections then place it back into the article - it would be fine (see Elvis Presley talk); I also feel chronologically it doesn't fit where its placed - but until we find a fit I have no problem with its placement for now. The title change can stay 'Musical influences and preferences' until we find a better place as well. What do you say, lets work on your edits. -- Northmeister 13:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Onefortyone, please restore the recent edit I made in good faith by reverting yourself. If you have objections - lets discuss them cordially on Talk. I was really pleased with your sense of balance with your compromise - it shows you understand my intentions better now. It's not completely your material - but rewording or summarizing it and placing it where it fits best that I have concern over. Thanks for the forward move. Let's continue this by my suggestion above. I feel the material belongs in 1968 and does not warrent yet another subsection. We're trying to achieve featured status and TOC is important. -- Northmeister 00:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
The Resilient Barnstar | ||
A Resilient Barnstar for learning and improving from criticisms, and not letting mistakes or blunders impede your growth as Wikipedian. I'm really impressed. -- Northmeister 02:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC) |
Hello 141. I hope you can help. Your recent edits (see 2nd paragraph onwards in "The influence of Col. Parker and others") need inline page citations regarding the books you have sourced. This will standardize things and make any rewrite easier - not that I am proposing anything major. Thank you. Rikstar 12:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I have had a quick look at the talk page. I have an idea who User:GiantSpitoon might be, it fits a pattern. However, this is an edit war I do not want to get involved in, not having the time to do so. However, LaraLove has edited recently, so will have seen this, as will Rikstar. I suggest if you can't reach agreement amongst yourselves, a request for comment might be in order, possibly with page protection if the reverting gets out of hand. I'm not such an expert to decide how relevant it is to the article. -- Rodhullandemu ( please reply here - contribs) 20:50, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Please note the recently filed Arbcom request at [ [237]] Steve Pastor ( talk) 16:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I am not one for sending round pretty pictures, but after my recent RfA, which passed 68/1/7, I am now relaxed and this is to thank you for your support. I will take on board all the comments made and look forward to wielding the mop with alacrity. Or two lacrities. -- Rodhullandemu ( Talk) 21:38, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Hellow Onefortyone,
Thankyou for your recent comments on User:Rikstar's Talk Page. I would just like to point out to you, that the mistake on Fort Worth was made by me,not my source. I initially did write Fort Hood and changed it,due to tiedness,I was relying on my memory,which is definetly a big no no. Hence my decision to wait until I have finished with my heavy work schedule in a few week,before contributing any further discussion with this article.-- Jaye9 ( talk) 02:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, 141; your information concurs with mine. Rikstar ( talk) 06:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I've restored the page as requested - it shouldn't have qualified as CSD as there are multiple authors (my fault for not checking properly). Could you have a look at it and remove any copyvios. Thanks. — Tivedshambo ( t/ c) 22:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
In his book, Elvis: The Final Years, Jerry Hopkins writes: "Elvis' health plummeted as his weight ballooned." At a University of Maryland concert on September 27th (1974), band members "had trouble recognizing him. ... 'He walked on stage and held onto the mike for the first thirty minutes like it was a post. Everybody was scared.' Guitarist John Wilkinson ... recalled, ... 'He was all gut. He was slurring. ... It was obvious he was drugged, that there was something terribly wrong with his body. It was so bad, the words to the songs were barely intelligible. ... We were in a state of shock.' "
Hello, not sure if the above was your edit, if so, can you supply a page reference for it? Many thanks. Rikstar ( talk) 13:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
All the very best for Christmas to you and yours. See Ya on the Elvis Talk page in 2009.-- Jaye9 ( talk) 01:45, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, Onefortyone, and I mean that because you appear to be a very well sourced editor most of the time, but for this current situation I can't agree at all with the line about Finstad and her publishers backing the claims AFTER the case. As a gesture of goodwill, I'm willing to drop the whole thing if you place the sentence before the result of the case is revealed, and that you make it very clear that it was a statement made during the case, not after. The way you are currently writing it makes it look as if Finstad and her publishers backed the claims even after Currie Grant lost the case. I hope that this is satisfactory with you, also. ElvisFan1981 ( talk) 23:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Yawn. You should be fully aware by now that contentious edits should be discussed on the Talk page beforehand. Whereas reliable sources may appear to be so, there are other sources, and then it comes down to discussion amongst editors. Please take proposals to the Talsk page before you are blocked for disruptive editing, and please take a look at WP:TRUTH. I know it's complicated, but I, for one, am not prepared to tolerate unilateral editing. Rodhull andemu 01:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I may have once been involved in the edits you mention above, but that does NOT mean I agree with their inclusion now, and I resent any implication that I might approve of your recent actions. I have posted this on Rodhullandemu's talkpage: "I am sorry to see you acquiesce regarding 141, though your current circumstances are worrying and can hardly help. If any previous editors were left on the Presley article, they would not agree with 141's reinstatement of removed material. Recent, new editors, called in by 141 apparently as mediators, have not backed his tired claims of 'whitewashing', AND one has made the repeated call to reduce the article's length, which is exactly what ElvisFan1981 was bravely attempting to do. I wish you well." Rikstar 409 09:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello Onefortyone! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 3 of the articles that you created are Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. Please note that all biographies of living persons must be sourced. If you were to add reliable, secondary sources to these articles, it would greatly help us with the current 938 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{ unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:
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It always helps to know if one is dealing with someone who is essentially honest or essentially a big, stinking liar. So tell me, friend, exactly what was your basis for attributing that "aggressively bisexual" quote to Penelope Houston. Please tell me in detail how you went about that. DocKino ( talk) 22:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
It must by now be obvious to you, as it is to your fellow editors at Elvis Presley, that there is no support for your proposal to dig up as much dirty trivia as possible on the artist and present this in the Legacy section or elsewhere in the article. OneFourOne, I have nothing personally against you; we do not know each other, other than via Talk:Elvis_Presley, but I am asking you now to please stop
From others' comments on the talk page it's clear that you have been pushing this agenda, on your own, for a period which can be measured in years, never gaining support, often demoralising your fellow editors. For instance this can be seen here, here, here, here and here.
You have made your point. Others have considered it: they have responded accordingly. The article is now judged by all others in the debate to present an accurate balance of positive and negative aspects concerning the artist. There is no support for your agenda. Your persistent disruptive behaviour on the talk page does nothing to help your agenda; please now refrain. PL290 ( talk) 10:09, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello and good day. I want to raise a concern that your recent behavior on the Elvis FAC and surrounding pages is skating dangerously close to the behavior that landed you at ArbCom and has gotten you blocked several times. In particular:
While I won't take administrative action because of my involvement at the FAC, I won't hesitate to seek to have you banned from the Elvis FAC page and from the main article if you persist. You've made your position known—please limit further commentary to concise objections based on reliable sources. Longer rants that include your interpretation of various sources are inappropriate. Also, please stop the canvassing immediately. -- Andy Walsh (talk) 16:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for my late reaction. My wish is more reality and less fansite-talking. I am an Elvis-fan, but I don't think of Elvis as a pioneer, because Chuck Berry and Little Richard had more influence than him. I just think that Elvis was just being a great singer and a good actor. Nothing more than that, nothing less than that. Oh, and by the way, someone told me that Elvis was a movie-fan, and that he liked Rebel Without A Cause, The French Connection and Monty Python. Is this true? Maybe you can tell something about it in the article. IGG8998 ( talk) 08:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Until today, I was unaware of how far back your various activities regarding Elvis have gone. I'm going to pose a question at ANI. You may want to comment there also. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello Onefortyone. at WP:ANI#Onefortyone I have proposed that you be indefinitely blocked from editing Wikipedia. You may respond there if you wish. EdJohnston ( talk) 17:19, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
As a group of editors at Talk:Elvis Presley appear to be stonewalling the inclusion of this cause of death theory with the spurious claim that Elvis personal physician can be totally discounted, I think perhaps the time as come to make a request for comments to the Wikipedia community at large. See also Wikipedia:Dispute resolution requests for more on the various means available for dispute resolution assistance. __ meco ( talk) 23:00, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
The article Mississippi Slim (country singer) has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{ prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Rettetast ( talk) 09:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Given your repeated attempts to force WP:OR and poorly-sourced rumours into the Elvis article, and the fact that has already resulted in actions being taken against you, I presume you are well aware of the possible consequences. I will ask you one time, and one time only to restore the collapsing of the talk page section that you have recently reverted. Should you not do this within a reasonable time period, I intend to raise the issue at AN/I and ask that you be permanently topic banned from all articles relating to Elvis. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 22:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your message. I don't agree that your paragraph is not WP:SYN. I've expressed my opinion on this subject before. Try searching the Talk page archives. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 05:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
I suggest that you do not respond to DocKino's name calling. Answering with facts or citations will be much more effective. Perhaps you could list a count of how many editors are supporting your view vs how many oppose? Steve Pastor ( talk) 22:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
First thing I did was see when that eBook was published, because some of it sounded VERY familiar. I was able to look at the references, and wikipedia articles, including my edits, are the main source!!! So, this one doesn't work. Be sure to read Elvisfan's comments on the Elvis/Perkins sound bite. While I agree that the sound changes, it could have merely been Elvis leaning closer to the mike to address the comment to Sam Phillips. I should let ElvisFan know. Have more items to add now that I got back to this whole issue. Steve Pastor ( talk) 01:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Elvis Presley. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Keep your personal aspersions out of edit summaries. Further such behavior could well get you blocked.— DCGeist ( talk) 21:26, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors, as you did on User talk:Steve Pastor. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Your personal attack on me is no less a personal attack just because you made it on the Talk page of a third party. If you continue this behavior, you will most definitely be blocked.— DCGeist ( talk) 21:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for weighing in. While I think we should just stick to the uncivil edit summaries at that RFC and reserve the question of sockpuppetry for another discussion, your comments certainly got me thinking. I had one interaction with DCGeist back in August 2010 on the Sound film article. A section of the article had referred to a Western (genre) movie called "Points West" as an " oater." I replaced "oater" with "Western", saying in my edit summary there was no need to use such an arcane term when a more generally understood one was readily available. DCGeist reverted the edit with the summary "restore--avoid off-echo with "West", five capped words in a row; term is era-appropriate and linked for those unfamiliar". I reverted his revert, saying " link to "Western" doesn't mention oater, & multiple capitalization not a concern". He rereverted, saying "try again: we're not having "Western 'Points West'"." "We're not having" - can anyone say " page ownership? I went to the Talk page to discuss. Mentioned I could not find a working definition of "off-echo", and that any concerns about that or multiple capitalization were subordinate to distracting the reader by using such an arcane term. DCGeist piped in with "I'm sorry you're confused by "oater" and "off-echo". I'll make this simple: "Western 'Points West'" sounds bad. It's poor writing. If you find "oater" intolerable, you will have to think harder about recasting the sentence." Fortunately three other people weighed in and totally agreed with me that "oater" had to go, and no one agreed with him, so it didn't go any further, however, so many similarities between DCGeist and DocKino - being overly pedantic about how the text is phrased, as well as edit warring (for which DocKino has been warned many times) because of it, condescending, derisive edit summaries and talk page comments. Of course, I am sure there are a lot of people who show that behavior pattern, but it is worth looking into. Mmyers1976 ( talk) 16:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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Checking your talk page for a while, I have found that you have been warned infinite times by many users to stop disrupting the celebrity articles with your obsessive thoughts about their sexuality and relationships, furthermore it seems like you went ahead of it when you made these few edits [246] [247] recently. None of your quotes are actually backed by the author that you have asserted, nor they are mainstream enough to present as fact. I caught your attention from other article but after checking your recent edit history as well as the talk pages, I am only seeing you edit warring for the content that has been long disapproved on talk pages by other editors on these same articles [248] [249] [250] where I have recently removed your mass amount of gossip synthesis, solely published on gossip forums.
Consider this as the final warning, before there is a need to propose another indef block like User:EdJohnston did before [251]. Excelse ( talk) 09:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Query: did user Excelse present irrefutable arguments for his massive removals of content? No, he didn't. Where are his reliable sources contradicting my edits? I have cited many independent sources supporting my view. And this is what counts on Wikipedia, not the personal opinions of some Elvis fans. Just one example. Concerning the death of Elvis, according to many independent sources there can be no doubt that the singer died while using the toilet in his bathroom. Here is a clear statement by Greil Marcus from his study, Dead Elvis: A Chronicle of a Cultural Obsession (Harvard University Press 1991): "Elvis died on the toilet" (p.154). Some other sources:
Last but not least, here is what reputed Elvis biographer Peter Guralnick says about Elvis's death at Graceland:
I have not yet seen Excelse citing reliable sources that contradict these views from mainstream biographies of Elvis and academic studies. But he has removed well-sourced content. Onefortyone ( talk) 19:53, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
It seems that a new vandal, this time from India, has started new edit wars, removing well-sourced content primarily from Elvis-related articles. See [257] [258] [259]. However, the tendency of their contributions is all too visible. Onefortyone ( talk) 23:42, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
A user has complained about your recent edits of Presley-related articles at User talk:EdJohnston#Onefortyone. You can respond there if you wish.
I also take note that you are still subject to an article probation remedy from 2005. There was an arbitration case at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Onefortyone. You were placed on probation regarding biographies of celebrities. "He may be banned from any article or talk page relating to a celebrity which he disrupts by aggressively attempting to insert poorly sourced information or original research." You'll be well advised to be sure you get consensus for any controversial changes to Presley-related articles. I note that people have also been blocked for making incorrect charges of vandalism, so you should be careful on using that word. Thank you, EdJohnston ( talk) 17:11, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
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This arbitration enforcement warning is in response to this AE request which related to the probation on which you were placed, it may be appealed by following the process here. You are warned that even if you believe that other editors are acting inappropriately it is never acceptable to make personal attacks ( [260] [261]) and inappropriately labelling edits as vandalism or inappropriately labelling editors as vandals ( [262] [263]). You are also warned that any further edit warring ( [264] [265] [266] [267]) will result in sanctions unless clearly covered by an exemption. Your use of Wikipedia as a forum [268] is also ill-advised and should be avoided. You are explicitly warned that any further misconduct in the Elvis Presley topic area (not limited to what is described here) will likely result in an indefinite topic ban and/or a block. Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 05:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you, User:AniMate, for your commentary on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laurens Johannes Griessel-Landau page. There you recommend to "merge the event into the article". I would agree, but the problem is that User:Lochdale is frequently deleting most of my edits concerning Elvis Presley. Some months ago, I tried to reinstate this version of the "male friendships" paragraph. But it was repeatedly removed by Lochdale. See [1], [2]. The same thing happened with the Griessel-Landau case, which once was part of the Elvis article. See [3]. I created the Laurens Johannes Griessel-Landau article in order to solve the problem by excluding the material from the Presley page. As you are not part of the edit war, may I ask you to include the following paragraph in the FBI files section of the Elvis Presley article, if you agree:
This is much shorter than the Griessel-Landau article and summarizes the main facts. However, it could well be that User:Lochdale will delete the whole paragraph from the Elvis article, as he frequently did in the past. See also this recent discussion. Onefortyone 19:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Laurens Johannes Griessel-Landau was the name of a swindler and blackmailer who represented himself to be a medical doctor and skin specialist. At the end of November 1959 he was hired by Elvis Presley to make skin treatments, but in December 1959 he made homosexual passes at the singer and his friends. After Presley's decision to discontinue the treatments, Griessel-Landau claimed to be in the possession of compromising photographs and tape recordings and endeavored to extort money from the star. The case was dealt with strictly confidentially and referred to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
According to one of the best documented FBI files on Elvis Presley, the popular singer was the victim of Laurens Johannes Griessel-Landau of Johannesburg, South Africa, who was hired on 27 November 1959 by Presley as an alleged doctor specialist in the field of dermatology in Bad Nauheim, Germany, when the star was in the military service. During his skin treatments, which involved Presley's shoulders and face and took place in the singer's quarters, the man had made several homosexual passes at Elvis and his friends. According to the FBI files, Griessel-Landau
This drove Griessel-Landau into rage and he decided to extort sums of money from the singer or to ruin his career. The case was referred to the FBI. Elvis "was interviewed on 28 December 1959 concerning his complaint that he was the victim of blackmail..." According to the FBI files, Griessel-Landau "threatened to expose Presley by photographs and tape recordings which are alleged to present Presley in compromising situations." An investigation determined that Griessel Landau was not a medical doctor.
Presley didn't take the matter to court. According to the FBI files,
Because things did not turn out the way he expected, Griessel-Landau endeavored to play the case down in letters he wrote on 27 and 28 December claiming that he sympathized with Elvis and that he had decided not to take action against the singer. The FBI files say that finally,
Then the blackmailer
In his book The FBI Files on Elvis Presley (2001), Thomas Fensch reproduces actual texts from numerous FBI reports dating from 1959 to 1981, which represent a "microcosm [of Presley's] behind-the-scenes life." The author reprints, in the appendix, many original documents as full-page illustrations, showing exactly how the FBI handled such cases. Pages 30-34 deal with Presley being the victim of Griessel-Landau. Among the documents the author provides are copies of the original FBI files concerning the case and letters from Griessel-Landau to Elvis and one of his secretaries.
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An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Elvis. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Elvis/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Elvis/Workshop.
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Would you please answer the question at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Elvis/Workshop#Question_to_Onefortyone. Fred Bauder 19:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. As I pointed out in my note, my comment was based primarily on the matters identified by the arbitrator who wrote the decision, who had picked up on one issue in particular. I wasn't saying there weren't other issues that could also be mentioned in the decision. Newyorkbrad 21:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.
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Want to actually join us? :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Your edits to List of bisexual people are appreciated, but please note that per Wikipedia's reliable sources policy, wiki sites can't be considered reliable sources, including Wikipedia itself. If a certain fact appears in more than one article/list, it's far better to copy/paste the references for that fact into both articles than to link to one article from another (as a source). Regarding James Dean's orientation, it is clearly controversial and as such I believe it fits better under the "Disputed" header in the list, as with any historical figure whose biographers are divided on the question (Eleanor Roosevelt, Alexander the Great etc.). Thanks. LeaHazel : talk : contribs 13:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Blocked: 24 hours for edit warring on Randolph Scott. Although you may not have violated the letter of the 3 revert rule, Edit warring is prohibited anyway, and you have something like 9 reverts in the past week. Thatcher131 02:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Under the terms of your Probation I am banning you from the articles Randolph Scott ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Elvis Presley ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Nick Adams ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for a period of two months. You may make suggestions on the talk pages. You have been edit warring at Randolph Scott. Your conduct on Elvis Presley and Nick Adams has been disruptive, for example this edit is almost a complete reversion across 14 good faith edits by other editors; similarly this edit is an almost complete reversion across 10 other edits. In the future, please use the dispute resolution process such as request for comment or third opinion rather than edit warring and reverting. Thatcher131 02:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
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Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo reported Onefortyone ( talk · contribs) for probation violations at arbitration enforcement. I was curious about the number of single purpose accounts edit-warring with Onefortyone on multiple celebrity accounts, and asked Dmcdevit to look into it. He found the above list of confirmed sockpuppets. All are banned, except Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo who was blocked for a week pending review of the situation. Thatcher131 00:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Confirmed. Dmcdevit· t 08:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Dear Onefortyone: Hello there. My attention has recently been drawn to your editing on articles such as Nick Adams (and the other articles listed above). You and I have conversed at great length in the past, and I have advised you very specifically that material such as unsupported inferences across multiple sources (that is, original research built out of multiple references) and material relating to individuals' private lives does not belong in Wikipedia biographies. I have given you this advice multiple times, and I feel I do not need to remind you of this, as I suspect you are, by now, perfectly aware of the matter after having been told many times by myself and other administrators. I admit that as a consequence I am rapidly losing patience with you. The Onefortyone Arbitration case specifically refers to your use of sources to support original research, and inclusion of material on celebrities you consider to be gay; and it also includes the remedy that you may be banned from articles in the event of disruption, as you will know from the recent banning and unbanning undertaken just prior to this message.
I am, as a consequence, telling you for the final time to cease behaviour of inserting tenuous information about Elvis Presley's sex life. This information does not belong on Wikipedia, and more importantly, original research disguised by a veneer of references is also not worthy of encyclopaedic inclusion. Furthermore, I cannot tolerate your periodical edit skirmishes with users, regardless of who those users are or whether they are sockpuppets. As a consequence, should you continue this behaviour, I am left with no other alternative than to implement the following ban as per the Arbcom ruling:
I sincerely regret having to take such action, as I would have hoped it would not come to this. However, as it stands, you leave me with little option other than to do so. Please take this as an opportunity to contribute in a sensible manner to these articles, and consider this your final warning. Thank you very much. Yours sincerely, -- NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 21:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Dear NicholasTurnbull, I do not understand the unfriendly notes above. As I can see from your contribution history, you seem to be not fully aware of what has actually happened.
You said that you have advised me "very specifically that material such as unsupported inferences across multiple sources (that is, original research built out of multiple references) and material relating to individuals' private lives does not belong in Wikipedia biographies."
Most Wikipedia biographies include such sections. See, for instance, Errol Flynn where the actor's private life and "post-death controversies" are intensively discussed. James Stewart, Marlon Brando, John Wayne and many other actors have their "personal life" and "controversies" sections. There is even a "Rumours and Controversies" section in the Mozart article. Could you please explain to me, what is so different with Elvis Presley?
Furthermore, you said that " The Onefortyone Arbitration case specifically refers to your use of sources to support original research, and inclusion of material on celebrities you consider to be gay; and it also includes the remedy that you may be banned from articles in the event of disruption..."
You further said that I have inserted "tenuous information about Elvis Presley's sex life. This information does not belong on Wikipedia, and more importantly, original research disguised by a veneer of references is also not worthy of encyclopaedic inclusion."
You also said that you cannot tolerate my "periodical edit skirmishes with users, regardless of who those users are or whether they are sockpuppets."
User:Northmeister seems to be identical with, or somehow related to, User:Ted Wilkes alias multiple hardbanned User:DW. I cannot assume good faith any more. These are the facts:
To conclude: Northmeister's recent edit certainly proves that this user must be identical with hardbanned user Ted Wilkes alias Duisburg Dude alias User:DW alias alias IP 66.61.69.65 alias IP 24.165.212.202.
It should be further added that Onefortyone was on heavy fire by Ted Wilkes and his sockpuppets from 2005 on, and it was Wilkes who requested this arbitration in 2005. However, there were subsequent arbcom cases concerning the same matter (see this case of December 2005 and this newer arbcom decision) which proved that Onefortyone's edits are O.K. Consequently, Wilkes was banned from the topics in question. For instance, in the case of 2006 the arbcom said that Ted Wilkes has "repeatedly insisted on an unrealistic standard with respect to negative information regarding celebrities that is current in popular culture, gossip and rumor." Therefore, according to the arbcom, Wilkes was "banned from making any edit related to a person's alleged homosexuality or bisexuality," and he was placed indefinitely on Wikipedia:Probation. If Northmeister is identical with Ted Wilkes, who was banned from Wikipedia for one year, he has clearly violated his probation. The third, more recent arbcom case concerning the Elvis Presley article confirmed that my "editing has substantially improved from that in the earlier arbitration cases. A sampling of edits shows reference to reliable sources without overstating of their content." Furthermore, the arbcom said that my opponent Lochdale, who, to my mind, is also somehow related to Ted Wilkes, "has removed large blocks of sourced material from Elvis Presley" and that he "shows evidence of misunderstanding of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view." Therefore, Lochdale was "banned indefinitely from editing articles which concern Elvis Presley."
All this is certainly not a coincidence. To my mind, there can be no doubt that Northmeister and presumably some other IPs and sockpuppets are identical with, or related to, Ted Wilkes alias multiple-hardbanned User:DW. Northmeister, as a supposed sockpuppet of Wilkes, clearly placed material related to Elvis Presley'a alleged homo- or bisexuality in Talk:Elvis Presley (see [202] and removed a well-sourced quote dealing with Natalie Wood's remark that Presley and the Memphis Mafia members might be homosexual (see [203]). This means that he has clearly violated Ted Wilkes's probation. The arbcom says that Wilkes is "banned from making any edit related to a person's alleged homosexuality or bisexuality". See [204]. May I ask some administrators to put a stop to the disruptive behavior of this user. Onefortyone 17:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
There are several big questions to be answered, like: are other users allowed to remove large blocks of well sourced material from article pages simply becaue this material is not in line with their personal opinion? Are users allowed to include hyperlinks to fan sites in Wikipedia articles? Are other users allowed to use different sockpuppets in order to harass others and to avoid the 3RR and remove well-sourced material they do not like? I don't think so, but this is what my opponent(s) frequently do(es).
Just one example. Northmeister first removed this passage from Graceland claiming that the commentary was "not appropriate for opening" in order to substitute this one concerning trivia about Bush and Koizumi's visit in its stead. If the first commentary is "not appropriate for opening", then the other one he included is? I don't think so. Therefore, I have moved this material to another section of the article. I even created a new section entitled "National Historic Landmark". What happened? Northmeister repeatedly reverted the article to the version he prefers. See [205], [206]. He even says in the edit summary, "revert second reversion by user onefortyone ... without discussion." For the discussion, see [207]. It should also be noted that Northmeister mangled some direct quotes by removing these passages from the article. This is not O.K., and it is certainly no coincidence that the same deleting tactics were used over and over again by Ted Wilkes in former edit wars. Onefortyone 11:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
There is much evidence that I am still the target of my old opponent Wilkes and his new sockpuppets. See also this older statement by administrator Redwolf24 who said that Wilkes and Wyss were harassing me, "and I've seen them go out of their way to revert him." The arbcom was of the same opinion. To my mind, it is no coincidence that the same deleting tactics concerning the same topics now continue. The arbcom clearly says that "Onefortyone's editing has substantially improved from that in the earlier arbitration cases. A sampling of edits shows reference to reliable sources without overstating of their content. To a greater extent he allows the reader to draw their own conclusions." See [212]. So why are my edits frequently removed by one or two other users? The problem is that there seems to be no administrator who is willing to take the trouble to carefully investigate all the diffs I have given above and all the sources I have used, as this certainly will take a lot of time. The messages I put on the administrators' noticeboard have been automatically removed some days ago. Nothing happened. I am using several independent sources for my contributions, among them standard biographies, books on the rock 'n' roll era, publications by eyewitnesses, modern university studies, journal articles etc. etc. (see [213]), but my contributions are frequently deleted. Instead, the other editors are including hyperlinks to fan sites in the article. Is this O.K.? I don't think so. I am at a loss what to do. Onefortyone 18:43, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
"Could it even be that User:Rikstar is identical with Northmeister? I hope not"... You can sleep easy at night, 141, I'm not, but will you believe me? I'll swear on The Bible if you like. Then again, I am an atheist. But seriously, I only have problems with inappropriate material and, hand on heart and with all due respect, quite a bit has appeared in various articles from your good self. Your wikipedia history, to any neutral person, would seem a little bit controversial and perhaps a reliable source from which to conclude that some of your edits have been inappropriate. Rikstar 00:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
It seems to me that a good deal of your objections to edits you listed under this heading in the Presley discussion page have been addressed: His father's laziness, Gladys' s booze problem, Parker's influence and reputation, Presley's sex life (or lack of it), his adultery, etc. Other points not flattering Presley have also been included: the Nixon meeting and his intent to have Mike Stone killed. In the absence of further details from you, your assertion that the article "still requires a lot of clean up" does seem gratuitous. Rikstar 05:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
"Sorry, LaraLove, I simply forgot to sign in. This contribution to your talk page was a summary of some points which were insufficiently discussed on Talk:Elvis Presley. As everybody can see, my behavior was not disruptive. However, it seems that I have still some problems with some other users, as Rikstar's reaction shows, because I have a more critical view of Elvis, the Elvis cult and the world-wide Elvis industry than most other contributors to the Elvis article. See also [215] and [216]. I must admit that Rikstar, during the last few weeks, has improved the Elvis article and even included some of my suggestions, but the objections I have raised against the present state of the article are still valid and not minor. Onefortyone 20:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC)"
The above post has been noted. It is unfortunate, and convenient for you, that you didn't also put up my response to the original contribution so LaraLove could judge them together. It is also noted that you include a link to totally false allegations about myself and Northmeister being one and the same. I have denied this, you haven't responded, let alone apologize for smearing my character and reputation. And now you repeat the claim. Rikstar 23:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello Onefortyone, how are you? I've been thinking (I know, you might not think I do much, given the crummy, biased state of this article)... If the Presley article is so POV and controlled by biased Elvis fans as you claim, then feel free to make all the edits you like. Your ideas seem to be wasted just appearing on the talk page. You are obviously intelligent, erudite and can write excellent prose that is unimpeachably cited. Other people are freely editing the article, so why don't you? If there is a problem that does not allow you to do this, please state what it is, and maybe I, and others, can help. Thank you. Rikstar 11:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
You ask on the Elvis talk page whether I am a sock puppet for another user. I am not. And I object that you should respond to my post by trying to cast aspersions on me. But then that's what you do. You cast aspertions. Hence your constant attempt to edit the Elvis article to show he was homosexual. WHO CARES? Even if he was that isn't what he is famous for so an article about his life and work wouldn't warrant such a claim. But even if it did, your attempts at changing every sentence on the article to gay innuendo is just plain daft and your constant attempts at doing this are simply annoying. Get over yourself and learn to listen to the consensus. Fooey-fooey-flop-chops 07:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Let's take a different approach to this article. You keep reverting my edits and that can only cause edit wars. Let me know why specifically you object to my edits so we can address concerns in common, open, and cordial manner. Per the Presley page, I support your recent edit, but removed it to talk it over in the talk page; if you revise it per my objections then place it back into the article - it would be fine (see Elvis Presley talk); I also feel chronologically it doesn't fit where its placed - but until we find a fit I have no problem with its placement for now. The title change can stay 'Musical influences and preferences' until we find a better place as well. What do you say, lets work on your edits. -- Northmeister 13:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Onefortyone, please restore the recent edit I made in good faith by reverting yourself. If you have objections - lets discuss them cordially on Talk. I was really pleased with your sense of balance with your compromise - it shows you understand my intentions better now. It's not completely your material - but rewording or summarizing it and placing it where it fits best that I have concern over. Thanks for the forward move. Let's continue this by my suggestion above. I feel the material belongs in 1968 and does not warrent yet another subsection. We're trying to achieve featured status and TOC is important. -- Northmeister 00:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
The Resilient Barnstar | ||
A Resilient Barnstar for learning and improving from criticisms, and not letting mistakes or blunders impede your growth as Wikipedian. I'm really impressed. -- Northmeister 02:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC) |
Hello 141. I hope you can help. Your recent edits (see 2nd paragraph onwards in "The influence of Col. Parker and others") need inline page citations regarding the books you have sourced. This will standardize things and make any rewrite easier - not that I am proposing anything major. Thank you. Rikstar 12:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I have had a quick look at the talk page. I have an idea who User:GiantSpitoon might be, it fits a pattern. However, this is an edit war I do not want to get involved in, not having the time to do so. However, LaraLove has edited recently, so will have seen this, as will Rikstar. I suggest if you can't reach agreement amongst yourselves, a request for comment might be in order, possibly with page protection if the reverting gets out of hand. I'm not such an expert to decide how relevant it is to the article. -- Rodhullandemu ( please reply here - contribs) 20:50, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Please note the recently filed Arbcom request at [ [237]] Steve Pastor ( talk) 16:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I am not one for sending round pretty pictures, but after my recent RfA, which passed 68/1/7, I am now relaxed and this is to thank you for your support. I will take on board all the comments made and look forward to wielding the mop with alacrity. Or two lacrities. -- Rodhullandemu ( Talk) 21:38, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Hellow Onefortyone,
Thankyou for your recent comments on User:Rikstar's Talk Page. I would just like to point out to you, that the mistake on Fort Worth was made by me,not my source. I initially did write Fort Hood and changed it,due to tiedness,I was relying on my memory,which is definetly a big no no. Hence my decision to wait until I have finished with my heavy work schedule in a few week,before contributing any further discussion with this article.-- Jaye9 ( talk) 02:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, 141; your information concurs with mine. Rikstar ( talk) 06:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I've restored the page as requested - it shouldn't have qualified as CSD as there are multiple authors (my fault for not checking properly). Could you have a look at it and remove any copyvios. Thanks. — Tivedshambo ( t/ c) 22:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
In his book, Elvis: The Final Years, Jerry Hopkins writes: "Elvis' health plummeted as his weight ballooned." At a University of Maryland concert on September 27th (1974), band members "had trouble recognizing him. ... 'He walked on stage and held onto the mike for the first thirty minutes like it was a post. Everybody was scared.' Guitarist John Wilkinson ... recalled, ... 'He was all gut. He was slurring. ... It was obvious he was drugged, that there was something terribly wrong with his body. It was so bad, the words to the songs were barely intelligible. ... We were in a state of shock.' "
Hello, not sure if the above was your edit, if so, can you supply a page reference for it? Many thanks. Rikstar ( talk) 13:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
All the very best for Christmas to you and yours. See Ya on the Elvis Talk page in 2009.-- Jaye9 ( talk) 01:45, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, Onefortyone, and I mean that because you appear to be a very well sourced editor most of the time, but for this current situation I can't agree at all with the line about Finstad and her publishers backing the claims AFTER the case. As a gesture of goodwill, I'm willing to drop the whole thing if you place the sentence before the result of the case is revealed, and that you make it very clear that it was a statement made during the case, not after. The way you are currently writing it makes it look as if Finstad and her publishers backed the claims even after Currie Grant lost the case. I hope that this is satisfactory with you, also. ElvisFan1981 ( talk) 23:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Yawn. You should be fully aware by now that contentious edits should be discussed on the Talk page beforehand. Whereas reliable sources may appear to be so, there are other sources, and then it comes down to discussion amongst editors. Please take proposals to the Talsk page before you are blocked for disruptive editing, and please take a look at WP:TRUTH. I know it's complicated, but I, for one, am not prepared to tolerate unilateral editing. Rodhull andemu 01:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I may have once been involved in the edits you mention above, but that does NOT mean I agree with their inclusion now, and I resent any implication that I might approve of your recent actions. I have posted this on Rodhullandemu's talkpage: "I am sorry to see you acquiesce regarding 141, though your current circumstances are worrying and can hardly help. If any previous editors were left on the Presley article, they would not agree with 141's reinstatement of removed material. Recent, new editors, called in by 141 apparently as mediators, have not backed his tired claims of 'whitewashing', AND one has made the repeated call to reduce the article's length, which is exactly what ElvisFan1981 was bravely attempting to do. I wish you well." Rikstar 409 09:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
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It always helps to know if one is dealing with someone who is essentially honest or essentially a big, stinking liar. So tell me, friend, exactly what was your basis for attributing that "aggressively bisexual" quote to Penelope Houston. Please tell me in detail how you went about that. DocKino ( talk) 22:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
It must by now be obvious to you, as it is to your fellow editors at Elvis Presley, that there is no support for your proposal to dig up as much dirty trivia as possible on the artist and present this in the Legacy section or elsewhere in the article. OneFourOne, I have nothing personally against you; we do not know each other, other than via Talk:Elvis_Presley, but I am asking you now to please stop
From others' comments on the talk page it's clear that you have been pushing this agenda, on your own, for a period which can be measured in years, never gaining support, often demoralising your fellow editors. For instance this can be seen here, here, here, here and here.
You have made your point. Others have considered it: they have responded accordingly. The article is now judged by all others in the debate to present an accurate balance of positive and negative aspects concerning the artist. There is no support for your agenda. Your persistent disruptive behaviour on the talk page does nothing to help your agenda; please now refrain. PL290 ( talk) 10:09, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello and good day. I want to raise a concern that your recent behavior on the Elvis FAC and surrounding pages is skating dangerously close to the behavior that landed you at ArbCom and has gotten you blocked several times. In particular:
While I won't take administrative action because of my involvement at the FAC, I won't hesitate to seek to have you banned from the Elvis FAC page and from the main article if you persist. You've made your position known—please limit further commentary to concise objections based on reliable sources. Longer rants that include your interpretation of various sources are inappropriate. Also, please stop the canvassing immediately. -- Andy Walsh (talk) 16:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for my late reaction. My wish is more reality and less fansite-talking. I am an Elvis-fan, but I don't think of Elvis as a pioneer, because Chuck Berry and Little Richard had more influence than him. I just think that Elvis was just being a great singer and a good actor. Nothing more than that, nothing less than that. Oh, and by the way, someone told me that Elvis was a movie-fan, and that he liked Rebel Without A Cause, The French Connection and Monty Python. Is this true? Maybe you can tell something about it in the article. IGG8998 ( talk) 08:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Until today, I was unaware of how far back your various activities regarding Elvis have gone. I'm going to pose a question at ANI. You may want to comment there also. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello Onefortyone. at WP:ANI#Onefortyone I have proposed that you be indefinitely blocked from editing Wikipedia. You may respond there if you wish. EdJohnston ( talk) 17:19, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
As a group of editors at Talk:Elvis Presley appear to be stonewalling the inclusion of this cause of death theory with the spurious claim that Elvis personal physician can be totally discounted, I think perhaps the time as come to make a request for comments to the Wikipedia community at large. See also Wikipedia:Dispute resolution requests for more on the various means available for dispute resolution assistance. __ meco ( talk) 23:00, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
The article Mississippi Slim (country singer) has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{ prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Rettetast ( talk) 09:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Given your repeated attempts to force WP:OR and poorly-sourced rumours into the Elvis article, and the fact that has already resulted in actions being taken against you, I presume you are well aware of the possible consequences. I will ask you one time, and one time only to restore the collapsing of the talk page section that you have recently reverted. Should you not do this within a reasonable time period, I intend to raise the issue at AN/I and ask that you be permanently topic banned from all articles relating to Elvis. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 22:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your message. I don't agree that your paragraph is not WP:SYN. I've expressed my opinion on this subject before. Try searching the Talk page archives. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 05:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
I suggest that you do not respond to DocKino's name calling. Answering with facts or citations will be much more effective. Perhaps you could list a count of how many editors are supporting your view vs how many oppose? Steve Pastor ( talk) 22:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
First thing I did was see when that eBook was published, because some of it sounded VERY familiar. I was able to look at the references, and wikipedia articles, including my edits, are the main source!!! So, this one doesn't work. Be sure to read Elvisfan's comments on the Elvis/Perkins sound bite. While I agree that the sound changes, it could have merely been Elvis leaning closer to the mike to address the comment to Sam Phillips. I should let ElvisFan know. Have more items to add now that I got back to this whole issue. Steve Pastor ( talk) 01:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Elvis Presley. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Keep your personal aspersions out of edit summaries. Further such behavior could well get you blocked.— DCGeist ( talk) 21:26, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors, as you did on User talk:Steve Pastor. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Your personal attack on me is no less a personal attack just because you made it on the Talk page of a third party. If you continue this behavior, you will most definitely be blocked.— DCGeist ( talk) 21:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for weighing in. While I think we should just stick to the uncivil edit summaries at that RFC and reserve the question of sockpuppetry for another discussion, your comments certainly got me thinking. I had one interaction with DCGeist back in August 2010 on the Sound film article. A section of the article had referred to a Western (genre) movie called "Points West" as an " oater." I replaced "oater" with "Western", saying in my edit summary there was no need to use such an arcane term when a more generally understood one was readily available. DCGeist reverted the edit with the summary "restore--avoid off-echo with "West", five capped words in a row; term is era-appropriate and linked for those unfamiliar". I reverted his revert, saying " link to "Western" doesn't mention oater, & multiple capitalization not a concern". He rereverted, saying "try again: we're not having "Western 'Points West'"." "We're not having" - can anyone say " page ownership? I went to the Talk page to discuss. Mentioned I could not find a working definition of "off-echo", and that any concerns about that or multiple capitalization were subordinate to distracting the reader by using such an arcane term. DCGeist piped in with "I'm sorry you're confused by "oater" and "off-echo". I'll make this simple: "Western 'Points West'" sounds bad. It's poor writing. If you find "oater" intolerable, you will have to think harder about recasting the sentence." Fortunately three other people weighed in and totally agreed with me that "oater" had to go, and no one agreed with him, so it didn't go any further, however, so many similarities between DCGeist and DocKino - being overly pedantic about how the text is phrased, as well as edit warring (for which DocKino has been warned many times) because of it, condescending, derisive edit summaries and talk page comments. Of course, I am sure there are a lot of people who show that behavior pattern, but it is worth looking into. Mmyers1976 ( talk) 16:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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Checking your talk page for a while, I have found that you have been warned infinite times by many users to stop disrupting the celebrity articles with your obsessive thoughts about their sexuality and relationships, furthermore it seems like you went ahead of it when you made these few edits [246] [247] recently. None of your quotes are actually backed by the author that you have asserted, nor they are mainstream enough to present as fact. I caught your attention from other article but after checking your recent edit history as well as the talk pages, I am only seeing you edit warring for the content that has been long disapproved on talk pages by other editors on these same articles [248] [249] [250] where I have recently removed your mass amount of gossip synthesis, solely published on gossip forums.
Consider this as the final warning, before there is a need to propose another indef block like User:EdJohnston did before [251]. Excelse ( talk) 09:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Query: did user Excelse present irrefutable arguments for his massive removals of content? No, he didn't. Where are his reliable sources contradicting my edits? I have cited many independent sources supporting my view. And this is what counts on Wikipedia, not the personal opinions of some Elvis fans. Just one example. Concerning the death of Elvis, according to many independent sources there can be no doubt that the singer died while using the toilet in his bathroom. Here is a clear statement by Greil Marcus from his study, Dead Elvis: A Chronicle of a Cultural Obsession (Harvard University Press 1991): "Elvis died on the toilet" (p.154). Some other sources:
Last but not least, here is what reputed Elvis biographer Peter Guralnick says about Elvis's death at Graceland:
I have not yet seen Excelse citing reliable sources that contradict these views from mainstream biographies of Elvis and academic studies. But he has removed well-sourced content. Onefortyone ( talk) 19:53, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
It seems that a new vandal, this time from India, has started new edit wars, removing well-sourced content primarily from Elvis-related articles. See [257] [258] [259]. However, the tendency of their contributions is all too visible. Onefortyone ( talk) 23:42, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
A user has complained about your recent edits of Presley-related articles at User talk:EdJohnston#Onefortyone. You can respond there if you wish.
I also take note that you are still subject to an article probation remedy from 2005. There was an arbitration case at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Onefortyone. You were placed on probation regarding biographies of celebrities. "He may be banned from any article or talk page relating to a celebrity which he disrupts by aggressively attempting to insert poorly sourced information or original research." You'll be well advised to be sure you get consensus for any controversial changes to Presley-related articles. I note that people have also been blocked for making incorrect charges of vandalism, so you should be careful on using that word. Thank you, EdJohnston ( talk) 17:11, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Visit :- /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement
And scroll below, the report concerns you. Excelse ( talk) 06:26, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
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This arbitration enforcement warning is in response to this AE request which related to the probation on which you were placed, it may be appealed by following the process here. You are warned that even if you believe that other editors are acting inappropriately it is never acceptable to make personal attacks ( [260] [261]) and inappropriately labelling edits as vandalism or inappropriately labelling editors as vandals ( [262] [263]). You are also warned that any further edit warring ( [264] [265] [266] [267]) will result in sanctions unless clearly covered by an exemption. Your use of Wikipedia as a forum [268] is also ill-advised and should be avoided. You are explicitly warned that any further misconduct in the Elvis Presley topic area (not limited to what is described here) will likely result in an indefinite topic ban and/or a block. Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 05:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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