JUL 2008 - DEC 2008
Hey, thought you might want to help me keep an eye on this again - seems Rollosmokes has started up his campaign of insisting that The WB and The CW shouldn't be listed under their actual names in infoboxes again. Since you were against him when he tried it on the WGN article, I figured you'd like to lend a hand... TheRealFennShysa ( talk) 15:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
IIRC, one of the lines in Bowie's Labyrinth soundtrack was something about a 'land serene'. Would that be it? EyeSerene talk 12:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Great comment. I don't recall seeing the one-eyed pipe smoking sailor man in kilts, being an overt tightwad or playing bagpipes. Steelbeard1 ( talk) 14:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Saw your edit summary and revert on Adlai. What you said is not really the case - this has only very recently been added to infoboxes around the encyclopedia by one single editor. I have no big problem with succession boxes showing this on bottom of page but in the infobox it is confusing and unclear - for example, it lists "election day" but he wasn't elected, doesn't say who he lost to, is out of chronological order which is against infobox style. Failed candidate is not an actual position held which is what we have always used infoboxes for in reverse chronological order. Again, up until a few months ago this was standard infobox practice - one editor took it upon himself to change infoboxes all over the place without discussion, and has added confusion, not clarity, so they are being reverted. Simply put, "nominee" is not a job, it's a job interview. The articles, of course, have detailed discussions of the failed candidacies as they should. But infobox is for actual positions held. I think it needs to be reverted back to the original. Tvoz/ talk 07:23, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you e-mail me when you get a chance? seicer | talk | contribs 13:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Just an update [1]. The user has again linked the image without an consensus which in terms is censoring an image. I would be happy for them to get an consensus and if that consensus is to have the image censored I would also be happy to follow the consensus but at the moment there is no consensus. Bidgee ( talk) 03:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I probably could have said "very tangential to the subject of food and drink". I think that bot needs to be reined in -- at the rate it's been tagging articles, all of Wikipedia will soon be part of the WikiProject. Kevin Forsyth ( talk) 15:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
In an effort to keep things civil I have reported your uncivil cheap shot to WP:ANI. Just because you seem to think my English skills are not up to snuff does not give you the privilege to post them publicly. It is just plain wrong especially given the issues there. You should know better. Now, I cannot WP:AGF with you. Before, I thought you were were acting in food faith. Now? Well I have doubts based on your post.[ [2]] 72.0.36.36 ( talk) 00:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Welcome, and thank you for your attempt to lighten up Wikipedia. However, this is an encyclopedia and the articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits, as you did to User:ChristianityMeansFreedom. Readers looking for serious articles will not find them amusing. If you'd like to experiment with editing, try the sandbox, where you can write (almost) whatever you want. -- Orange Mike | Talk 01:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm, I was wondering when scandal was going to pop up with Killebrew. Check page 81 of Allen's book. I guess his son Ken robbed a bank?! Here's a NY Times article too. Looks like he turned his life around though and now owns Killebrew Beverages? And Harmon went $700,000 into debt too? Hmmm. Do you know anything about any of that? — Wknight94 ( talk) 11:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
While I understand that User:Pug power's participation is a bit, shall we say, unique, some gentle guidance would probably be more effective in this user's case than poking fun. I understand you probably didn't mean any harm, but the 'net being what it is, I think something may have been lost in the translation. Thanks, -- Clubjuggle T/ C 14:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
You gave me a caution that was misplaced. I am still learning to navigate around here so please bear with me there. However, none of my edits have been unconstructive. The changes I made were not experiments. Merely fixing mistakes. As I said, I am willing to discuss the issue. But in the meantime, it would be nice if that baseball page would display facts correctly. There is already a lot of slanted info there, but no direct errors apart from the division title thing. I am willing to compromise the wording if someone wants to discuss. But one thing that cannot change is saying the streak is 14 when it most surely was not. MAL01159 ( talk) 17:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
MLB does not recognize the streak as 14. The 1994 season did indeed count. Players stats counted. Players got credit for a season played. Post season awards were dished out. The only thing that did not happen was MLB did not recognize an official division winner. Since the Braves, or any other team, did not win the division in a year that was played and went down in the record books, the streak was broken. The only way the streak could not be broken would be if MLB determined that the 1994 season was never played and did not count. But it did. So the Braves streak ended and 3, and they started a new one that lasted 11. MAL01159 ( talk) 18:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I have made this reference in the change I made. You should have seen it by now.
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/atl/history/year_by_year_results.jsp This is the Braves own listing of their results each season. You can easily count how many years in a row the GB was "-" (meaning, they were in first) There are many others. I'd like to know how can a team keep a division title streak alive when they played a season that counted in every book but did not win that year very season.
MAL01159 (
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19:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Why would I be blamed for the edit war? You are just as guilty it seems. If I got banned for correcting mistakes, you ought to be banned as well continuing to present false information. MAL01159 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
You answered your own question. There were not division titles officially recognized in a year that went down in the record books as being officially played. Since the Braves did not win the division in a year that was officially played, their streak ended. Or is it your assertion that the entire 1994 season did not count? If it didn't, then the streak stayed alive because there was no season played.
MAL01159 (
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19:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
The Braves timeline thing is akin to someone SAYING that there are three trees on a piece of property but then when you go out and count them yourself, you only see 2. The Braves themselves show a gap in the division title streak in their year by year results listing. At best it shows a conflict. I propose that you actually count them out yourself to get the true answer. I count 11. MAL01159 ( talk) 19:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Will you get blocked if YOU revert it again to the incorrect version?
There has to be a higher authority than you in the blocking process here.
MAL01159 (
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19:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Why would a consecutive division title streak count when the team did not win the division in a season that counted? Please show me proof the streak is 14. MAL01159 ( talk) 19:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
What the standings were when the strike hit didn't matter since MLB did not recognize any division winner that season. The point is, since there was no division winner in an official season that was played, the streak was snapped. MAL01159 ( talk) 19:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
There are many references to the streak being 11. Here is another... http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/ I'd say that the Braves own results itself is an authoritative reference. Here is a more appropriate baseball analogy for you. A game shortend by rain after 4 1/2 innings counts as a full and complete game. Just as the 1994 season was shortened. It counted as a full and complete season. You said yourself there were not championships in 1994. Since there were none, AND the season did indeed count, the streak ends. I think we need other parties involved here. Are you the final say in all things in Wikipedia? MAL01159 ( talk) 19:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
You never answered my earlier question... Will YOU get blocked if you keep changing the data to the incorrect version? MAL01159 ( talk) 19:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Your analogy is flawed because in order for the hitting streak to continue, a player needs an official at bat. Getting walked is a plate appearance, but not an official at bat. The 1994 season was deemed to be an official "at bat". The Braves did not get a "hit". It doesn't matter that circumstances made them getting that hit impossible. The streak still ends. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Are you the judge and jury of what is correct? What I have changed it to IS demonstrably correct. It is yours that is the incorrect version. Do you act as judge, jury and executioner here? I think we need others involved here. Will you get blocked if you keep reverting to what is demonstrably not a correct version? Show me an authoritative source that agrees with your view on this subject. I did. I showed you two. You showed me one. I have more. You want to see them? MAL01159 ( talk) 20:06, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
You have not shown me any source that claims the Braves streak was snapped. I have. All you have to do is click on the link, and count how many times the Braves won their division. You have yet to show me that the streak was not snapped. Please answer my earlier questions. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Since when is asking for verification "trolling"? I'm trying to work with you here but you refuse to answer my questions. And have refused to move the matter along to others to chime in on. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Not at all. My personal spin has nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact, my personal spin is that the Expos ought to be called 1994 division champs. But MLB does not recognize that. I am working with what MLB says. MLB says the 1994 season was played and no one was the division winner. That right there breaks the streak as the season was played. Every source (save that ONE your showed in words from the Braves site) says it is 11. I have showed you two sources. The Atlanta Braves own history. Baseball-Reference's assessment. And here is another from ESPN. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/alltime/franchise?team=atl You have showed me one. Please show me something to show the streak was not broken beyond you wishing it were so. Also, please answer my earlier questions. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Since there was no division winner in 1994, how can you say that the Braves' streak of division winners was snapped? I already addressed that. Here it is again. Because the 1994 season was played and no one was recognized as a winner. Therefore, any division title streak in play at that time was snapped. I have shown you three sources so far showing explicitly the streak was snapped. All you have shown me was one web page that ended up being inconsistent with data that very same source provides. It is also inconsistent with the data from the other two sources I cited. The overwhelming evidence says the streak is 11 and 14 of 15. Unless you have something substantial to add to counteract this. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Here is yet ANOTHER source for you. http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/atl/history/timeline4.jsp In the 1994 time line, it reads "The strike eventually forced the cancellation of the playoffs and World Series for the first time since 1904. The Braves finished second in the National League East, 6.0 games behind Montreal." If the season did not count, why then would they reference where they finished that season? MAL01159 ( talk) 20:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
If there was no division championship to be had, then what were the players playing for before the strike? The decision to not recognize a division winner was made AFTER the final 48 games and post season were canceled. The only way for the streak to remain intact would be if the Braves won the division in 1994. They did not. Streak ends. I have shown you 4 sources that confirm this. What do you have to show on your side? MAL01159 ( talk) 21:04, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
"Arguing my own logic"? What does that mean? You are wrong. I have provided 4 different sources. I have no control over weather or not you perceive them to be credible. I, however, am still waiting for you to present something to show they won 14 in a row that was not contradicted on it's own web site. MAL01159 ( talk) 21:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
There is no other source besides the final standings. 1994 was the only season that did not produce an official division winner. We are in agreement on that. Knowing that, you may use the final standings to count the consecutive division titles for yourself. BTW, where on mlb.com does it say the record is 14? I have yet to find it. I'm still waiting for you to provide a source that is not contradicted by itself. Do you have one? MAL01159 ( talk) 21:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Do you have some kind of compromise that does not mislead the reader on the matter? I say we go with 14 of 15 and reference at one point that MLB officially doesn't recognize any division winners from the 1994 season. That would be 100% factual and not mislead the reader. If that were said nearby, we could even say they won 14 but that streak was interrupted in 1994. What do you say? MAL01159 ( talk) 22:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Exactly! There were no winners! Therefore, the streak ended! The Braves would have had to win for the streak to continue. MAL01159 ( talk) 22:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
No, all that needs to happen is for them to NOT win. They didn't win. The Baseball Almanac says the record for consecutive wins by a team is 21. Set by the Cubs two different times. The record for an unbeaten streak is the afore mentioned Giants run of 26-0-1. Why do you keep asking me for more sources? I have given you 4. You have given me one that was contradictory. You need to find an authoritative source that says their streak is 14. MAL01159 ( talk) 16:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
You appear to be dead set against using wording that will satisfy us both. Why is that? MAL01159 ( talk) 16:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
The Braves portion of MLB.com states that the record is 14. The Braves portion of MLB.com also shows the record to be 11. MAL01159 ( talk) 16:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
So, because a property owner SAYS there are 5 trees on a property you blindly accept that? Even when you go to the property and look, and see only 4 trees? Don't you want to be more certain than just ONE source that contradicts itself? You have earlier stated that there are many places that prove the number to be 14. Yet you only show me the one that contradicts itself. Why are you avoiding this challenge to find an non-contradictory source? And why are you against using verbiage that satisfies all? And why are you avoiding any question I ask of you? MAL01159 ( talk) 17:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
(I hope you can find the strength to resist engaging him again; I've certainly enjoyed the peace and quiet -) JohnInDC ( talk) 15:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
LMFAO. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 18:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bugs,
I've reverted the edit you made here, which removed italics from the name of a TV series (going against WP:MOS) and which added back dubious content which cannot be sourced.
Whatever your beef with User:Rollosmokes, there was no reason for you to make that edit, which reverted the article to poorer quality material than what Rollosmokes had added. I do not condone Rollosmokes' incivility, but there's no reason to damage encyclopedia content because you're angry with someone. Firsfron of Ronchester 15:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
[ [3]] took approximately 1 minute, 5 seconds. -- Abd ( talk) 16:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
"Although I try to make up for that effeteness by being a nattering nabob of negativism. 0:)"
I was present for the "CW" dispute, and that dispute was retarded, where as the 55 Gallon Drum dispute, while retarded, isn't about grammar or a hyphen. In fact, I'd argue it has nothing to with anything the CW dispute was. But, that's just me. I was trying to be all sorts of nice about it too. Now, while still being nice of course, I'm going to have to break out the war drums on this one. (you're not the only one who can make HORRIBLE puns and word plays) Beam 04:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Answer: It can mean that. I can also suggest a few other meanings such as in dasa. Why ask me? What Baseball Bugs means? Wikidās ॐ 14:01, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
if you don't take the bait, the conversation is ended. Kingturtle ( talk) 15:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I've just read that the upcoming Looney Tunes Golden Collection: Volume 6 will be the final entry in the Golden Collection DVD series! What the hell?! No!!! Say it ain't so!!! :( Cinemaniac ( talk • contribs • critique) 01:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Per User talk:Rollosmokes#Unblocked, this account is unblocked. I would be really grateful if you could ensure that any future interaction is conducted in good faith. LessHeard vanU ( talk) 08:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
yes, but if you'd just agre with me, imagine how nice 100% would feel! ThuranX ( talk) 22:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I AM 100% AGAINST THIS.... A. THERE IS NO SOURCE AND B. IT IS MENTIONED IN THE SECTION "FALL OF 69" SO WHY DO IT TWICE!!!! Wjmummert ( talk) 23:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I CERTAINLY THINK THAT ALL CAPS IS THE WAY TO COMMUNICATE IN A NON-AGGRESSIVE MANNER!!!! -- Allemandtando ( talk) 23:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Do you know anything about Baseball Bugs - What's up Dr.? ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? So far, this user made one edit, to User talk:Ebyabe, announcing retirement. Is someone impostering you, or is this just a case of a duplicate username? Or is it actually you? -- Elkman (Elkspeak) 19:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
This edit should be cast in bronze and properly memorialized. Good show. 172.169.182.126 ( talk) 04:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
"I gather that your complaint about the article is that it doesn't say enough about illegality and costs, and you've got a point. You should write up a prospective paragraph on the subject and post it on the talk page, if you have not already done so. I think it belongs in the "safety" section, because most of the folks doing this are probably kids who think they're immortal."
The only issue with this is, Papa has been equating urban exploration solely with its illicit nature and with the cost of providing security. Urban exploration is not solely about illicit activities, as I have been exploring abandonments legally for years through communications with various property owners, businesses and even the military. Security is a side effect, especially if the property has been vandalized -- but urban exploration is not vandalism, and both are wholly separate topics. Urban exploration is also not solely breaking and entering, although some do take the task to do so.
We came to a consensus to rewrite portions of the text and remove some of the dubious claims, and the page was unprotected after I made a request at RFPP. Papa has made little effort outside of trying to equate urban exploration with vandalism/breaking and entering and/orproviding rather dubious sources or original research. If you could, some outside eyes would be appreciated on the talk page.
As for the protection, I reverted on the basis that Papa has been conducting drive-by taggings, offering little rationale and stating that other editors have the burden to provide the proof of evidence that the article is not POV, instead of the tagger providing the burden of proof that the article is. I reverted to Papa's version and then I had to step out to a meeting. I was not informed of the thread on ANI (it's no longer watchlisted) nor was any communication given to me about it -- had it been done, I would have been happy to discuss the edits. seicer | talk | contribs 13:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in a duplicate thread, WP:AN#Need some admin opinions. seicer | talk | contribs 16:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I think if you take a hard and honest view in the mirror, you'll see why I'm not all that thrilled to be contributing, having been thus vilified in advance. Papa Lima Whiskey ( talk) 15:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Not. LessHeard vanU ( talk) 19:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Rollosmokes looks to be back, this time as User:Black Waves. I've moved the issue back to WP:ANI and notified whichever admins issued the original indef-blocks. -- 66.102.80.212 ( talk) 22:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Let's have another go at this, shall we? I've submitted Bugs Bunny for peer review. If you wish to participate, click here. — Cinemaniac ( talk • contribs) 20:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just to give you a heads up. I posted a 3RR warning on PLW's talk page and figured this would be left at that. He has then reverted it a couple times and then turned it into some kind of vague threat from me. Here's the diff's: [5], [6], [7]. Personally I would not care less as long as he had taken the semi friendly warning on board and left it at that. Yet, he seems to be taking all this very personally, he 3RR warned me and Seicer, and then removed all traces of the warning from his talk page. I felt that due to his continual confrontational attitude, that the warning should be reposted with some friendly advice to take a break and cool down. Yet, he quickly changed the name of the section, deleted the warning, and is trying to make me look like the bad guy? I'm going to back away from his page for a bit, but do you recommend anything more then that? Brothejr ( talk) 00:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Puffy.... ha. Why you talkin bout My waistline? Wjmummert ( talk) 03:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for uploading Image:Lakewood Mausoleum room.JPG. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. Sdrtirs ( talk) 13:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Right it's ok for them to do this and leave there comments up still [8]. I'm not going to put up with this BS. Bidgee ( talk) 07:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
This is not spam but I would like to speak with you off wiki. I can be reached at writetoomee@yahoo.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.148.120 ( talk) 07:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
It was to avoid trolls and wikistalkers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.148.120 ( talk) 07:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
You are "Baseball" Bugs.
How can I send a secret snark when you're playing coy? - brenneman 07:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
These are the diffs I (will get an account soon) found "threatful" http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Moreschi&diff=prev&oldid=226880350 http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Kerala_school_of_astronomy_and_mathematics&diff=prev&oldid=226878753 Was just trying to solve the riddle... anyways keep it up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.60.172 ( talk) 12:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm considering this for GAR. See my message to User talk:Kingturtle#Lou Gehrig. Your thoughts? JGHowes talk - 16:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Tbb
if you don't reply to a troll, the troll has nothing to respond to, and no way to bait you. try the silent treatment for a full week. see what happens. Kingturtle ( talk) 22:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I would like to request your audience here. I look forward to any input you may have. Libro0 ( talk) 23:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, quick question, can we consider the NPOV issue over at Urban Exploration resolved? The edits you did have stood and seem to be supported by the consensus? Brothejr ( talk) 00:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Why am I not being included in the discussion of whether to remove the tag? Papa Lima Whiskey ( talk) 09:26, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Greetings from California. It is not necessarily my business but I could not help but take not of your recent interactions with User:Rollosmokes over some television station article editing. I had a couple of similar set-tos with this editor in the month previous. I decided that I had better uses for my time than to war with this individual for whom reason and rationality had long left the building. I had no idea then that his fulminations were standard operating procedure; I thought that he for some reason had taken a particular dislike to my edits and even to my own personality. Congratulations to you for sticking to principle, working for the betterment of Wikipedia and contributing to the exit of this gaseous user. May he find some distant avenue for his bilious energy. Lantana11 ( talk) 03:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 03:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Bugs, so far as I know you and I have never had a problem with each other. I don't consider you an adversary, an enemy, hostile to me or someone I'm hostile to. I didn't mean my comments at ANI to imply anything to the contrary or be personal in any way. I hope they didn't read as if they were. I admire and appreciate the work of yours I've seen. I hope you'll understand that the policy at WP:SEASON isn't meant to confer ownership on the article's creator; it's meant to stop date warring. In fact the policy doesn't necessarily protect the original version, but any long-term stable consensus version. The policy is "leave it the way you found it" not "leave it the way it was originally created" unless there's a substantive reason supported by a clear consensus to change. I'm sure you'll agree that the consensus expressed in the discussion is to leave the article with the BCE/CE era style intact. I just reverted your last edit to restore that. I hope you'll appreciate that the main contributors to the article are trying to get it to FA status and came to ANI looking for relief from the disruption they were experiencing. I intend leaving the article alone now and hope you will do the same.
Best wishes and happy editing. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 05:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I apolgize for using the words legal action in my comments. it was uncalled for and won't happen again.
How can i get the truth and the facts on this page. There is alot on there that does not belong there.
What can i do to help me resolve this.
Thanks,
Michaelmink
Do you think your newly created articles should have space for the copyright dates related to the cartoons? Agtax 22:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I think that expanding it to all sports might be a good idea. Adding a chart to it might make it look nicer, perhaps with a references column (we could probably find most through a Google search). It would be nice to have a lead too. Maybe we could get a few more guys from WP:BASEBALL to help out? Black ngold29 17:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
If putting things on my radar keeps them off the radar of other, more respectable and productive editors, then my job is done. - Dewelar ( talk) 23:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I moved this here, if this is left in my talk page its just a matter of time until they start coming
When I saw "native country", I said, "Whoa!" This is a misleading statement. Puerto Rico is arguably "semi-independent", but that's not the same thing as being "independent". To call it a "native country" is factually incorrect. How about "birthplace" instead? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
To characterize Puerto Rico as a separate country, without qualification, is POV-pushing. I'm well aware that it's a hot-button issue. But as long as the U.S. Congress has some say in Puerto Rican affairs, they are not fully independent. There has to be a way to say it differently, e.g. "birthplace" instead of "country". P.S. I do not promote the Yankees. Let me put it a different way: I wanted to see why the Tigers had bailed on the 2008 season and maybe given the Yankees what they need to go to the playoffs yet again. Curse them Yankees anyway. >:( Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
My dad and I were talking about Jack Wilson, who has stated he plans on playing 10 seasons and then retiring. He's been on the Pirates since 2001, he made the all-star team once. And thanks to Pittsburgh's wonderul owners he has never been on a winning team. So we were wondering if he is close to having played the most seasons without a winning one? I figured if somebody would know, you would. I don't know if anyone was on the Phillies for that long when they had their drought (if not then he's definately in the running for consecutive losing seasons with one team) or someone who kept getting shuffled around and caught a lot of bad breaks. Any thoughts? Black ngold29 19:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Anyway, I'm assuming Blackngold means .500 seasons, as the Bucs haven't been at or above .500 since their heartbreaking NLCS loss to the Bravos in 1992. We at least have a benchmark in Ted Lyons - we know the record is at least 9 seasons of being on a below-.500 team (I'm not sure what to do with exactly .500, if that becomes an issue, but I'm inclined not to count it, as it's not a losing season). So we would first have to make a list of every 10-years-or-more stretch of below-.500 seasons. Then scan the rosters and look for likely candidates. That in itself would take several long weekends. Unless someone else has done it already. I'm not sure how to look for something like that in Google. It's not a conventional baseball "record", it's more like "trivia". Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
User talk:70.119.13.45 insists on deleting a portion of the Warner Bros. Cartoons article when the studio was closed circa 1964 when animated titles for The Porky Pig Show was produced by Hal Seeger in New York. Steelbeard1 ( talk) 19:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
"I think it was you that added a bunch of fact tags to Kiner's article back on July 19th. Several of those items are already covered in the external links. What's the point of linking the same information 2 or more times in the same article? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)"
Retrieved from " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slater79"
Answer- Probably because I'm only human, and I make mistakes sometimes. What was the point of making such a mountain out of a molehill? What was the point of not giving me the benefit of the doubt that I just happened to not see the external links that you mentioned? (which I DIDN'T). I don't have all day to be editing Wikipedia. You could have been a little bit more polite in what you wrote to me. I've ALREADY had a rotten day. Give me a break! If I inadvertantly made a mistake, then I'm SORRY! Every other person has been polite who has written to me to call me on an error that I've made. What is the point of your being so rude in the tone of what you wrote to me? Is it really necessary? Please be more civil in what you write, and people will be more civil to you, as well. Slater79 ( talk) 02:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello! I came across the picture doing image sorting. I've identified it as a Boeing 757. Thanks for adding it to our collection. :D E_dog95' Hi ' 03:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
All my edits to the Fedora article comply with Wikipedia rules and guidelines, and some are based on other people's comments on the talk page. The article was in drastic need of cleaning up, and it still needs a lot of work( including references) to reach Wikipedia standards. Spylab ( talk) 17:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Much better. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 14:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
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BASEBALLS BUGS IS AN UGLY IGNORANT FOOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.166.166 ( talk) 23:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I dare because its true -- 190.49.166.166 ( talk) 00:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Ugh! I almost stepped in the poop! - BillCJ ( talk) 03:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
When are you leaving Wikipedia? You have been talking about it for some time. Would this be another Michael Jordan, Roger Clemens, or Brett Favre situation. Enlighten us!! -- Bob Purkey ( talk) 17:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
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← Shucks, folks, I'm speechless.
I should have asked you for permission before deleting my own comment regarding a particular user ("I Guess It's Moot Now, But..."), and I hope that there was no violation of either the spirit or the letter of Wiki policies. I thought in retrospect that these words were rather harsh and perhpas regrettable--and now irrelevant anyway. But it is your talk page after all. Pardon any inconvenience. Lantana11 ( talk) 21:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 21:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your input in the GA review of Cy Young, which passed. LAA Fan 22:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hello again. It looks as if the ABN AMRO is unlocked now. At the writing, the only new edits are positive ones in which the last remaining mentions of "ABN Amro" were corrected to ABN AMRO. So we should watch the article closely to avoid more edit and renaming wars. Steelbeard1 ( talk) 17:47, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I have re-nominated this article for deletion. Please provide your input to the discussion. -- Elliskev 17:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure if I'm wasting my time here; I think it's likely that you view me with contempt and take my remarks about your position, which I genuinely have trouble understanding, personally. I saw that you were puzzled that "someone editing for two years" would persist in disagreeing with you about applying the MOS, and I wanted to come here and invite you to at least understand my perspective. The tone of that comment and some others suggest to me that you believe that I'm a troll or vandal or something like it, which puzzles me because I can see from your side that you're at least operating in good faith. (Or at least most of the time, anyway, implying that you'll "take me to ANI just like some guy who got blocked" is pushing it at the very least.) My issue is that every guideline we have that deals with naming, both in letter and spirit, calls for standard English. I've been involved with this issue for a while, and I've found that the people who are most adamant about ignoring the guidelines are the people who are fans/clients/employees of the given band, brand, or company. Most people, when approaching the issue from a broader context, tend to recognize the value behind the guideline, which I've articulated before and won't rehash again here.
The reason I care about this is that there was clearly NOT consensus to use "AMRO" when the page was returned there. My feeling is that, whatever you think of the first RM discussion, it was closed as move to "Amro," which is the style more in line with our MOS. I opened up a second RM discussion because the "straw poll" that Steelbeard1 opened was obviously going to have our three votes and then the votes of whomever else he canvassed to come support him. Using the RM procedure invites other editors, who are less likely to have a vested interest, to participate in the discussion. You may have considered the matter settled because there were more of you interested in arguing with me on the talk page, but if you count up all the opinions on the talk page at the time, it was basically divided evenly between the two styles. Had there been evidence of a consensus to use AMRO without the move, then there wouldn't have been much for me to say or do about it, and I'd have left the issue alone. I hope that you'd feel the same way if the consensus went against you, but I have to confess that I have serious concerns about whether or not you would really be willing to abide by such a consensus.
I don't want to discuss the merits of the issue here, since that discussion belongs somewhere that other editors would be more inclined to comment on it. I'd just ask you to consider whether Wikipedia should really be the most prominent source using these nonstandard styles within article text. Do we follow secondary sources, or do we just do what the advertising department of the band/company want us to do? Croctotheface ( talk) 19:52, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
(removing indents) Here's my question, which I asked more than once in a way that I thought was pretty clear: are you interested in understanding me here or not? Do you refuse to accept that there is reasoned disagreement about which style is right to use? Croctotheface ( talk) 02:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
When Paige joined the Indians in 1948, there were many comments about him being the oldest rookie in MLB history. The fact is that he was considered (by sportswriters) a rookie in 1948, a perception that persisted for many years after, but Paige himself found that designation insulting, and announced that if he DID win the RoY award that year, he would refuse it (didn't have to, as he received zero votes).
Such "records" as "oldest" and "youngest" player to do whatever have never been official MLB records, so calling it a "record for oldest rookie" is a bit of a misnomer to begin with. Whether Paige is considered to have been a rookie in 1948 depends upon the individual researcher/historian, and whether or not they consider the Negro Leagues to have had an average talent level that was equivalent or near-equivalent of MLB.
While it is freely accepted that the best players of Nippon Pro Baseball are of MLB (and possibly HoF) caliber, it is also accepted that the average talent level is still somewhere near Triple-A level. They can base such assumptions on direct comparisons of player performance when moving betwen the leagues, something they had little chance (nor inclination) to do in the 1940s. I know that Paige did better in the American League in 1948 than he did in the NAL earlier that same year.
Concluding, since there are no official MLB records that considers age and there is wide debate as to whether the Negro Leagues' talent level should be assessed as minor or major league equivalence, I would not call Satchel Paige a 42-year-old "rookie". - - Couillaud ( talk) 21:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
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I'm just kind of throwing this out there, I don't know if it'll catch on. I've been doing the Pirates' stadiums ( PNC Park and Three Rivers Stadium are GAs) and I started thinking that it would be cool to get a Featured topic for the current stadiums of MLB. We'll need about 7 FAs and the rest GAs to get that, so it'll take a while. I figured if we need that many FAs we should make them the best stadiums (Wrigley, Fenway, Camden Yards). If I recall correctly you are a Cubs fan, so would you be interested in helping with Wrigley Field? I was able to do the Pitt ones fairly quickly (I wrote Heinz Field in one day), but I had a good deal of knowledge about them going in which won't be the case for most other ones. I thought I'd throw it out to you and then we could go to WP:BASE and see if anyone else would be interested. Thoughts? Black ngold29 02:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Since I was talking to you on blackngold's talk page, I figured I might leave this message directly for you as well. The review is complete. There are a few issues holding it back from GA status. I've put the article on hold for one week to give the editors time to address them. I will revisit the article in a week, or if you feel the issues are taken care of sooner than that, you're free to let me know at any time. Nosleep ( talk) 08:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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I still haven't figured out what Bugs Bunny has to do with baseball. I suppose I would like to ask you for help. If the other side (they aren't evil, just misguided) can enlist their minions or support, then I feel I can ask you for your assistance at the 2008 Olympics incident page. How are you by the way? Overmoon ( talk) 09:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Saw your comments on ANI re the German murderer "courtesy" flap, and you said it. Just goes to show that Wikipedia needs to decide soon whether it wants to focus on accuracy or being "nice." Can't be both, because reality isn't "nice." Aunt Entropy ( talk) 23:02, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Bugs, I think in one of our first converstaions, I was trying to explain the necessity of using proper souces, or something along those lines. Since then, I've watched your work in various baseball related articles, the basball project, and on a few other type articles too. I just want to say you've done a great job learning the ropes around here, and have become a valuable editor. I especially appreciate you taking the forefront on the Braves division win-streak issue. Having been through that issue a few times before, it was nice not to be the one carrying all the water! So thanks for the good work, and I hope you can continue it. - BillCJ ( talk) 03:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Re this, I swear to Zeus, Jimi Hendrix, or any other deity of your choice that I had no idea there were vulgar connotations to that name. I just thought it was a funny name from the Piranha Brothers skit. Raymond Arritt, editing for the nonce as Basil "Basil" Fawlty ( talk) 01:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm no Virgin!
you're welcome to have sex with me sometime.
call me: 07981041079
xxx
PushMyCrumpet PopMyCherry AndCallMeTina ( talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for removing that comment at ANI, especially because I know you disagreed with my perception of it. Delicious carbuncle ( talk) 18:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
You might want to look at this, where your comments about Betacomannd are being taken to be supportive of the recent unblock, which is not how I took them. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk / cont) 00:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
How is my wording poor in Elmer's Candid Camera? Fangusu ( talk) 04:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
i just want to know what you have against the man, i cannot expet everyone to be keen on his music but you have to remember that he has not touched a kid and was found inersant - would you let your kid sleep in a bed with him?? i would put any of my kids in bed with michaels and sleep easily myself nowing that they were safe. even mcauley culkin was safe and although they may be close friends to say that he is abusing and using them to touch him intimately is and cannot be truth!!
leave him alone he is an innocent!! Danforthkeeton ( talk) 15:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
you know!!
he HAS been accused of child abuse BUT
was found innocent-----> so!
not fair to call him a child molester or and kind of kidsex, RIGHT. Danforthkeeton ( talk) 16:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
MICHAEL JACKSON
The King of POP! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danforthkeeton ( talk • contribs) 16:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
As a participant in the recent discussion at WP:ANI, I thought you should be informed of the new RFC that another user has started regarding FPaS's behavior.
Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 16:49, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks, I wouldn't have even noticed it but you made an edit and the article popped up in my watchlist, so I thought I'd see what it looked like these days. IvoShandor ( talk) 20:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Just FYI, I ripped off a userbox from your user page, and fiddled with it a bit. I put it up here. Hope you don't mind. Ed Fitzgerald "unreachable by rational discourse"( t / c) 09:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Your thread is inappropriate based on sarcasm. You would not say that you enjoy any repeated harassment by the troll for a long time. I already had several bogus files on me at ANI. (just three days ago) I filed to request for blocking him in his IP range, so I strongly request you to retract the thread. Thanks.-- Caspian blue ( talk) 19:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Whose judgement where?
Now, bugs, I was very willing to play fair over this. Making an allegation of a race hate campaign, a persistent effort to game the Korean-Japanese pages, is not a superficial matter.
I have been watching, and documenting, this for months and many people's time is being wasted. I am not simply playing sock over this, I want to be very open and honest but I am asking for reason in return. -- 58.94.57.6 ( talk) 20:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I believe Caspian Blue is referring to this Message from Lucyintheskywithdada. Enjoy. -- Amble ( talk) 21:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
...on the "Request for range-blocking evading troll" AN/I thread, and elsewhere. It's so nice to see someone looking for all sides of a story, even from anonymous editors, instead of jerking their knee! Mr. IP 《 Defender of Open Editing》 06:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Nice! -- Dweller ( talk) 11:36, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for having a good sense of humor. That Sarah Palin talk page is decidedly dreary and unfunny, and every bit of levity and normality helps. Coemgenus 14:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I removed the list of cartoon episodes, as they have nothing in common with the movie, excpet for the fact that the panther appeared in the start of the movie.
-- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 08:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
You think that I am a troll, then check out the user that asked if he thought he was Michael Jackson. Ericthebrainiac ( talk) 14:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
New user — Travis talk 22:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Here. Kelly hi! 22:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Stop trolling, I've already discussed this with FisherQueen on her talk page and she said that she didn't see his comment. Don't restore the comment again. Khoi khoi 04:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
You're correct in your assessment. It is well-within our rights to sue, but we aren't allowed to say that on Wikipedia. But he's blocked, so I'm not sure what else you want to do. I can try to explain again to him if you want me to. He may not have realized that he cannot revoke the GFDL once he clicked the submit button, and he was trying to prevent a certain user from what he perceived as destroying an article he created, so he felt the only way to get him to "stop" was to say something like that. He didn't know about WP:NLT at the time and after I told him he backed off.
So I can talk to him if you want me to (FisherQueen and I are both admins). He wasn't community banned, only blocked for one sentence really. BTW I remember you from three years ago. Do you remember? Khoi khoi 11:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Haha, you can see more about that guy here, where he declares Kurds and Persians to be "enemies of Azeris." Anyways, good luck to the Cubs. Ciao, Khoi khoi 04:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
15 minutes? Hmm... I didn't mean to. Oh well, I'll reblock him if he comes back. Exploding Boy ( talk) 05:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
What's up Bugs. Just wanted to say, I like the image you've got for your User page (Bugs reading). Cheers. GoodDay ( talk) 00:39, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Several of us, in talking about this, think it's best to just totally leave that guy alone unless he specifically asks for something. He's essentially engaged in belligerence and trolling-like behavior at this point. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Dear Baseball Bugs, do you like baseball? Your name seems to suggest that. We can collaborate together to make baseball-related articles better. AdjustShift ( talk) 04:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I like your sence of humor very witty, is thier a humor barnstar on WP? «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 14:55, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
The Prom3th3an Humour Barnstar | ||
I Prom3th3an, Almighty comedian of Wikipedia hereby award you (Baseball Bugs) this barnstar for doing or saying something that I found extremly humourous or otherwise witty beyond expectation. Take a bow. PS: Your name has now been crossed of my whichunt list ;) «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 15:02, 11 September 2008 (UTC) |
My humility is being severely tested, due to this unpresidented unprecedented(
Captain hoek (
talk) 02:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)) honor.
Baseball Bugs
What's up, Doc?
15:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Fine. I'll make a special trip downtown to the offices of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, get special permission to spend a week in their morgue (neglecting all other responsibilities in the meantime), and go through a year's worth of forty-year-old newspapers one at a time to find a copy of an article to prove what I know to be true from having heard it with my own ears, just for you, because you think I might be making it up.
Or maybe not, because I actually have a life and more important things to do than neglect my children jump because a wiki-bureaucrat says "frog". --
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20:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bugs. I see you do great work on Sarah Palin. Would you please be able to take a look at the Joseph Smith Jr page. As a very well established user, you'll have a better idea than I about whether its NPOV. Personally, as you'll see on the discussion page, I don't think it's at all well written. In particular the line 'Some measure of common sense had begun to return to Missouri leaders once the Latter Day Saints no longer posed a political threat.' irks me and i don't want to initiate an editing war by killing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain hoek ( talk • contribs) 22:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
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Andy Mabbet/Pigsonthewing has placed a statement on his user talk page for your attention (not sure if you're still following the issue: [11]. Accordingly, please do not refer to him by that phrase again, (I think everyone either types out Pigsonthewing, refers to him by POTW, or by his name, as he does, with Andy Mabbet. Thanks :) SirFozzie ( talk) 11:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Bugs, for all your hard work on the wiki since you joined us last year and for having one of my favourite usernames on the wiki, i just have to give you this for you to munch on, i know they are healthy so please enjoy :) Also for the slack you have taken on the wiki like the above comment, i hereby give you this:
All Around Amazing Barnstar | ||
Baseball Bugs Bunny for your hard work and making me smile when i see your name around the place, i give you this in the hope it will put a smile on your face and continue your adventure here on the wiki. I know that because of your name, you have been impersonated many times by vandals, socks and by your fans so enjoy your popularity and may it make you stronger and make you the bravest bunny on Earth! Monster Under Your Bed ( talk) 03:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
Do you have a citation for the Robbo context of " My Kind of Town"?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 07:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Yah, I should have posted on the board after I saw your note ... got distracted by a football game that was pissing me off. Bad to be adminning and yelling at the television set simultaneously. :/ Antandrus (talk) 21:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, happy. Now it's not just an anonymous IP address. 151.204.140.88 ( talk) PS Love your username. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.204.140.88 ( talk) 02:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Your user page is by far the best I've seen. When I first came upon it, for a second I genuinely believed that sock-puppet warning was real! It's hilarious and creative. If Wikipedia had an official user page designer, it would have to be you. Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 20:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Regarding my proposed retirement - I am still wrestling with the agonicing decision pertaining to my possible retirement. I recently had a session with my priest about it. I will let you when my decision is final. Sincerely, Baseball Bugs - What's up, Doc? September 16, 2008 (UTC)
I proposed a rename from Category:Negro League baseball to Category:Negro league baseball on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy at 01:52 UTC on 15 September 2008. The rename has not taken place yet, and since there seems to be some controversy, I am planning to initiate a non-speed CfD in the near future. Four of this category's subcategories have already been renamed through the speedy rename process. In each case, I was the proposer, and User:Vegaswikian was responsible for putting them in the work queue. Stepheng3 ( talk) 18:29, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
I believe you asked for one of these.. ;)
The pooheadIU@13726*!@^(&!# Barnstar | ||
omg yr mom is GAY lol hahaha hi ashley!*&@#^I@112bshsbhud |
Prince of Canada t | c 15:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
(Also, upon reading through your userpage.. you are a hoot. If you're ever in my neck of the woods, I have a beer with your name on it. That is.. real beer. Not the fizzy yellow water stuff y'all have down there. ) Prince of Canada t | c 15:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Baseball Bugs. Most of the time you're quite helpful on ANI, but on occasions, you could cut down on the snark - please? Your contributions to threads like this and this aren't really helping anyone, and they make you look kind of like a jerk. fish& karate 15:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I've seen your comments (commentary) on several Minnesota pages recently. Pray tell, are you Minnesotan, either in spirit or physical location? I wouldn't have guessed as much (Minnesotans are generaly nice zing!!!!. I mean well, but seriously, I'm curious.... Keeper ǀ 76 01:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
They don't like old farts like me on ANI, and frankly the place runs my blood pressure through the roof. I'm scared I'll lose it and either rip into the guy with the 10-pound legal threat who innocently claims it's not, or the guy who can't seem to find something with a gajillion sources and thinks if he throws COI he'll win his wikifight. I might check it tomorrow...or, I might catch a baseball game or go fishing. Have a nice night. (or day). -- Logical Premise Ergo? 05:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Er, where does the lead say these have been debunked? I don't see that at all. Also note that there's no "baiting" going on in keeping an article compliant with NPOV. JoshuaZ ( talk) 16:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your input on the "bridge controversies" topic in Sarah Palin. I hope it is not a problem that I grew up a White Sox fan. Dave Collect ( talk) 23:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Anyone can write anything on ANI. If you write on ANI "The cover of Time Magazine for January 30, 2007 was mistakenly not copyrighted by Time", it doesn't make it true. I am seeking the true status of the cover. I have written to Time. If I receive information from them, I will update WP. 903M ( talk) 00:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your interest in the article.
My concern is that it is a copyright violation and a non-free use image. I've written to Time to seek proof of renewal of copyright. If they respond, I will report the findings. I am not bothered by the image if it is a permitted image. I am bothered if it is a non-free use image and we steal it. I want Wikipedia to be scholarly and ethically use images. 903M ( talk) 00:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Where? If it is that recent ANI, it was just one anonymous editor that said he heard it was. I seek the truth. If it turns out that it is not copyrighted, then I have no objections to free use images, when appropriate. 903M ( talk) 01:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Since Ron keeps doing the same thing over and over about you retiring. [12] -- Ebyabe ( talk) 22:35, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Hiya, hope everything is good for you! Wasn't it a good game last night? Anyways, I noticed that you reverted
this post. I just wanted to give you a friendly reminder that rollback
is only for vandalism and not for reverting good faith edits. I'm not bothered personally but you should be aware that people have had it revoked for even a single reversion like that one. I' not an admin but know of some who just go around looking for incorrect use of rollback
. Take care! :-)
fr33k
man
t -
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22:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Can you provide a citation for the claim you are adding.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 00:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Unless your over 40 you're not gonna get it. Anyway, is there a method we can talk privately? I have some questions for you about my recent AN/I. (They are, hopefully, self-improvment questions if that helps.) Padillah ( talk) 18:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Is
User talk:Baseball Boogies you? Just posted to Wknight's page, signed manually as "baseball bugs". I'll unblock expediently if you declare your devotion to the MN Twins oops, I mean, clear this up for me.
Keeper ǀ
76
21:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm still on break and just took a quick look in, but thought you should be aware of this, since you've been looking after the situation. Thanks, Bugs. Kelly hi! 21:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I know, I'm terrible -- I was reading your extremely interesting conversation with Kelly (I have lots to say too about Apollo 11, JFK, etc. -- as you probably have figured out, I'm not a kid). This might interest you, since I noticed you said "... Palin has been hyped like there's no tomorrow. It's also a convenient distraction from the 700 billion dollar invoice that the mortgage companies are trying to send to the American public with the help of Mr. Bush." Do a little curve-fitting to those stats. It's illuminating stuff: Wikipedia page counts have an astonishing correlation to the interest level in a topic among the population; it can be quite enlightening to check different pages on that site, if you haven't done it yet. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 01:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
let's not start the fire up again, if Jossi and Kelly continue to snipe at each other, then we have an issue. Let's just redact that section and wait and see? SirFozzie ( talk) 05:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I have added a lot of images. I just need one from the infield seats of the scoreboard. If you can find anything let me know.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 08:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Why are the other teams flags visible in these photos and not the one I mentioned earlier?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 17:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
If Kelly wants to make outrageous statements, I can make relatively mild ones commenting on her behaviour. Sure, Kelly might not like it, but really I don't particularly feel terribly upset if she takes it to heart - if anything, she should! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 14:01, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Irony is an edit summary that says "Don't delete others' posts" ... when your revert deleted [14] a post by GoodDamon! (If I had a faster internet connection, I would fix it myself.) -- Kralizec! ( talk) 01:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
...for looking after my talk page. I zeroed out the drama left there to Ta bu shi blah blah or whoever, what a crock. Anyway, I am going to spend the time between now and Election Day doing things that are incontrovertibly noncontroversial...for example, I've been spending some time today locating and uploading free photos of baseball players, in your honor. ;) Best wishes - Kelly hi! 17:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, After taking into consideration the feedback from other editors regarding the Carson City image at Sarah Palin, I have created a new version with the intent of pleasing those who have contributed to the discussions. The quality of the image has been significantly improved. I would appreciate your opinion here: [ [16]]. Thanks, IP75 75.25.28.167 ( talk) 20:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
One of my all-time favorite Cubs. He was a major impact player on the Cubs of 1969 and 1970, kind of forgotten now when they talk about the Banks-Santo-Williams era. A very quiet country boy who just happened to have a knack for knocking the big bang in clutch situations from time to time. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 02:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
You think that this photo can be cropped or manipulated to use in his article? It's the only free photo of him that I can find, but I hate the way he's cut off at the edge of the picture. Kelly hi! 02:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I will wait for the response about the fee. That way, I can present the whole story and not bits of it at a time. 903M ( talk) 05:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
It's annoying when you post a reasonable comment and then someone tells you to stop "baiting" the user. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 06:25, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
You are clearly baiting that user. I'm seeing comments to a committed anti-abortion Christian like "There has been more evil, more mass murder conducted in the name of Christianity than is possible to tabulate." I can't believe you had such a massive go at me for one comment on Kelly's page and yet you are engaging in far worse behaviour! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 06:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I think common sense would indicate that the editor accidently typed in his signature twice. Entirely innocent, nobody is going to get annoyed. Sheesh! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 09:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I just noticed this user, and don't really have time to look into it properly, but since you've had some experience with his edits, I thought I'd bring it to your attention. It looks to me like a fair percentage of his recent edits are introducing errors into statistics, Ed Delahanty and Hit by pitch for example. I'd normally dig deeper and either AIV him or contact the admin who previously blocked him, if necessary, but I'm got to soon vanish for the day. If you have time, you might want to look into it more. Majorclanger ( talk) 12:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
BASEBALLS BUGS IS AN UGLY IGNORANT FOOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.166.166 ( talk) 23:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Could you please look at this thread? Thanks, ~ Troy ( talk) 21:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your assistance in getting this page up and running. Be advised I have reversed the following main page edits: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Cubs_Win_flag&diff=241671989&oldid=241668451 -- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 02:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your opinions re: Sarah Palin. You might possibly want to check out Talk:Sarah Palin as one of the issues I hoped was gone has re-arisen. And don't write off a White Sox - Cubs series yet! Dave Collect ( talk) 20:59, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
In view of your plans to possibly retire, a Cubs-White Sox World Series (or any Series involving the Cubs) would be agood way to go out -- Davey Collect ( talk) 21:15, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Note that someone is apparently seeking to either stalk me, or just annoy me. The above "user" is someone's sockpuppet, and ought to be slapped down. Thanks! Dave
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It's either User:Ron liebman, a banned user who keeps turning up using that schtick, or it's (ironically) someone imitating Liebman. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Bugs, I take a complaint to you now with this accusation by the above-mentioned user accusing me of being a sockpuppet of another user based solely on what he sees on my userpage → "This page intentionally left blank.", which is according to him similar to another user going by the name of Dave whom he suspects is giving him a hard time now.
Against the same user, it is noted at ANI that he is suspected of operating several sock accounts which I have now tagged as sock in response to his tagging of me being a sock.
Also, the accuser is noted for being disruptive and uncivil on several of his edits with comments to others. I wash my hands off this guy and shall leave the accuser now in your judgement. -- Dave1185 ( talk) 21:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
apparently not. i request an admin run an ip trace on all of the sockpuppets i accused dave of being.
ㄏㄨㄤㄉㄧ (
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21:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
all 3 are the same disruptive editor. User:David873 has been blocked already, and had exactl y the same "This page intentionally left blank." on his page.
plus if you look at the edit history of the page of User:Nefbmn, he posted the EXACT SAME sockpuppetry accusation as David873. ㄏㄨㄤㄉㄧ ( talk) 21:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I am not an admin. Y'all need to take your concerns to WP:ANI. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 22:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Please do not use talk pages such as Talk:Steve Fossett for general discussion of the topic. They are for discussion related to improving the article. They are not to be used as a forum or chat room. See here for more information. Thank you. Danorton ( talk) 00:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Danorton ( talk) 00:24, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Welcome! AdjustShift ( talk) 13:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Saw your username and just HAD to look at your userpage. Looked. HAD to comment. :)
I'm a Bugs Bunny fan and a Wikipedia editor (well, copyeditor mainly), and I love stuff like this. But wait. Am I addressing you, or your sockpuppet? Or maybe your sockpuppet's sockpuppet's sockpuppet... Would it save time if I just gave up and went mad now?
Rosuav ( talk) 03:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Diskettes? Yep. Remember them, have a pile of them, and occasionally use them. 3.5" and 5.25" but not 8". I'm young though; the oldest computer I have - which is older than me - does have a hard drive. I never used the dual-floppy models. But I learned to program in BASIC, then assembly language, in 640KB minus however much DOS was using at the time, and I think it was good education. Today I write programs on 32-bit systems with upwards of a gig of RAM, but I still think in terms of coding efficiently.
Haha. The Merrie Melodies theme just came up in my MIDI playlist. How appropriate! Rosuav ( talk) 03:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
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You mentioned something about letting a user go far enough so that we can really block him good. You may want to read this: WP:GIANTDICK. Its mildly entertaining and totally applicable here... -- Jayron32. talk. contribs 03:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I have one unusual observation. Ron Liebman is considered one of the most reliable and most respected researchers in the baseball community (surprisingly, perhaps) and is one of the few whose name is somewhat recognized bythe general public, along with people like Bill James, Bob McConnell, Pete Palmer, David Vincent, and Steve Hirdt - along with the deceased SABR founder Bob Davids. Yet the main thing I learned from him in his time on Wikipedia is the meaning of the term "bezzler." Unusual indeed. - Sincerely, Baseball Bugs (10/9/2008) UTC -- Mr. Baseball Bugs ( talk) 21:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
The line at the end of the cartoon: "That's what the man said, you heard what he said, he said that!" is just identified in Baseball Bugs as a popular line from a radio show. Would you happen to know which one? The line is also used in The Big Sleep (1946). Cheers, Postdlf ( talk) 03:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Since you've been around a while, I won't template you. But in this edit, did the statement you made come from a source, or is "It was also noted" referring to you noting it (which would be unsourced original research)? I looked in the sources immediately preceding and after your edit and found nothing about what you added. Thank you. Ward3001 ( talk) 16:15, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Here's another blog, from sometime last spring, where this is referenced a little more than halfway down. [17] So it's not "original research" and it's not particularly POV-pushing. You could still argue for "trivial", though. :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:32, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
If Roger Ebert pointed it out, how would that be any more noteworthy than someone in a blog?: Because Roger Ebert is a reliable source and a blog isn't. That's my last word on the matter. Ward3001 ( talk) 21:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Your original complaint was "unsourced POV". So if I cited Ebert or whoever, that would be "sourced POV".
Baseball Bugs
What's up, Doc?
22:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC): And sourced POV is perfectly acceptable in a Themes or Criticisms or Reception section of a film article. Let me repeat myself (unfortuntatey): Look at film articles that are or have been
Good articles or
Featured articles. You will see generous amounts of sourced opinions from legitimate critics (i.e., reliable sources). What you will not see (unless it has been added inappropriately, as you did) is unsourced POV or POV from a blog.
Now, I don't care to argue any further just for the sake of argument, which is what this discussion has degenerated into. I have repeatedly pointed out Wikipedia policies (which apparently you understand less than I thought you did), and you insist on coming back with inadequate retorts over and over again, requiring me to again provide you more and more detail about very clear Wikipedia policies. So if you wish to continue tendentious debates about the finer points of Wikipedia's policies, please take them up on the talk pages for
WP:RS,
WP:V,
WP:NPOV,
WP:MOSFILM, or the talk page to
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, not on my talk page. If you add another pointless statement on my talk page, or if you re-add the statement about Elliot's initials either unsourced or sourced to a blog, I will simply copy this entire discussion to
Talk: E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial and let you try to argue endlessly with the rest of the Wikipedia community and see where that gets you. Goodbye.
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There is an E.T. in one of the Star Wars prequels. That IP address said it was Star Wars I, but I'm not totally sure that's correct. I'm thinking it was II. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 00:28, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Moving the discussion to the E.T. page is fine, provided you actually address the question instead of moving it there just so you can ignore it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 03:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I noticed the melee (?) concerning "official names" of the Yankees. The New York Times in 1909 ran articles apparently using both names in the same article. I am curious, however, as to whether the "New York Highlanders" owed their name to the Civil War regiment with the same name? Thanks. Collect ( talk) 01:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Cease and desist from adding comments about E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial to my talk page. Take up your concerns on Talk:E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial. If you continue making such comments on my talk page, I will make a report at WP:ANI. Ward3001 ( talk) 03:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
“ | As the film neared its completion, Lucas showed a rough cut to buddy Steven Spielberg, whose own directorial credits include the beloved alien-in-Chatsworth tale, E.T. The Extraterrestrial.
Spielberg and Lucas decided it might be fun to have E.T. in the Galactic Senate, so in March, just two months before the film was supposed to hit theaters, the effects guys got a call. 'So we put E.T . in one shot and Steven said, "I couldn't see it," so we added him bigger in another shot,' said visual-effects supervisor Scott Squires, winner of an Oscar for technical achievement and twice nominated for other Oscars on Dragonheart and The Mask. Want to spot the former Valley alien now that he's made it to the big time? Look lower left in the wide shots. But it may take a magnifying glass and the jog-shuttle control on your DVD months from now to get a good look. |
” |
Hope that helps. :) — Erik ( talk • contrib) - 04:30, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
How about this, man...
“ | The spontaneity of E.T .'s and Elliott Taylor's first flight through the Halloween night is as thrilling as remembered, and it makes us hungry for what Spielberg might accomplish in the flying scenes of his long-proposed version of Peter Pan. (Incidentally, Elliott's last name is mumbled only briefly in the film, but the symbolism of the initials is obvious.) | ” |
Not quite what you wanted, but probably a better connection! :) — Erik ( talk • contrib) - 04:55, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that you updated why a passed ball is not considered an error here: [19]. A couple of buddies and I have been wondering about this for a while, and would like to know if your reasoning was pulled from a source. If so, can you let us know? This will help us out a TON! Acedriven - 2008-10-14 18:29 UTC
Hey there. It was an interesting debate, actually, and not one that I was aware of, so I'll thank the IP for that, but as soon as anyone starts linking to talk pages and not project pages, I'm usually pretty sure it's a POV pusher, especially when it's an IP. -- Ged UK ( talk) 09:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) I don't mind doing it, I hate to have someone unilaterally (gee, I couldn't believe you chose that word too) deciding a policy exists in the obvious absence of one, then cite it. It borders on vandalism, because he or she knows there was no determination. 3RR is very easy to violate if one decides to fight the same battle across the entire site. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 10:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Boiling it down from that discussion, I see these users and some dates:
It's also funny that the article is from a year ago, yet this new IP address found it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 10:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone be as stupid as User:Rollosmokes pretends to be? Lantana11 ( talk) 04:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 04:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Baseball Bugs--thanks for your message. I really can't believe that one user could get me so motivated to rant, but from the first time I crossed paths with the guy I knew there was something different going on here, and that it wouldn't be pleasant. I have no idea why he had chosen to go this route, but there may be no turning back. And it is sad, because intelligence is always good to have on hand. I have not the slightest idea why the "CW" business resulted in such a meltdown; it probably would have happened sooner or later on any subject. I think many of us have some ego involved with our editing, and that's why I indeed left him some less-than-complimentary messages (and removed some of them after seeing them in the brighter light of reason). He took me completely out of my normal character. Anyway, Wiki will go on quite well...all the best and happy editing. Lantana11 ( talk) 18:38, 18 October 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 18:38, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
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Could you please take a look at this article's history and give a uninvolved opinion? The thing is that there is this kid removing a chunk of the lead, I restored it twice but he has already thrown the "hey don't be an asshole" line at me, so I'm fairly sure that he's ready for an edit war if necessary. The kid is a Yankees fan, so you can see why his attitude doesn't surprise me at all ;-) - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:46, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
=={Retirement?}== Good luck if you go ahead with your planned retirement. -- Couilaud ( talk) 23:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. By the way, he guessed wrong - my name is not Mike ! -- No Guru ( talk) 16:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
The Red Sox are currently in negotiations with the city of Fort Myers for a new spring facility. It is the latest, most current news on the team, and I can't understand why you would remove that.-- Johnny Spasm ( talk) 10:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
The Boston Red Sox entry was over 100,000 bytes before I began editing it. Check the article's history if you don't believe me. I shortened it to the 93,000 byte range by removing redundancy and by making the facts more concise. I think the article is better for my work, and I'm a METS FAN.
There is no question that 2 years from now "The Sarasota Curse" should not be part of the Red Sox's Wikipedia entry. For right now, it is the current news on the team.-- Johnny Spasm ( talk) 10:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Stop vandalizing or you will be blocked. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I am trying to get a handle on what happened with 99.207.98.92 ( talk · contribs · block log). Since the IP's last edit was at 13:21, it appears that they listened to their 13:24 warning and stopped vandalizing Wikipedia. However I am not sure why you then issued another warning at 13:25, then reported the now inactive IP to AIV at 13:26. Thank you for your time, Kralizec! ( talk) 18:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Please have a look at WP:UAA#User-reported when you have a moment. Ioeth ( talk contribs friendly) 19:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I am not a reactionary Republican or a bigot! I am voting or Barack Obama. (originally posted on October 27, 2008) In fact, I am a moderate progressive Democrat. With the World Series now over, I will revisit my proposed retirement plans after the Presidential Election. Sincerely, Baseball Bugs. -- The Baseball Bugs ( talk) 20:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I've semi-protected your talk page since Ron Liebman keeps coming here with various sockpuppets claiming that you're going to retire. The guy just doesn't quit, does he?
By the way, you should think about becoming an admin some day. I think you're already involved enough at WP:AN/I and other admin-ish areas that you could do it well. -- Elkman (Elkspeak) 20:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
You have previously contributed to the debate on the article, and may like to express your views on the deletion of this article here. Ohconfucius ( talk) 02:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
I thought you might have been online at the time, but I guess I should have posted a permanent link so you could see what I was talking about. This is what I wanted you to see so we could get your opinion, but it's been taken care of since. Cheers! Ioeth ( talk contribs friendly) 13:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
[20] Of course it's not a sock, b/c he says it isn't. *lol*
The Red sox signed a new deal with Fort Myers today, I added that to their Wikipedia entry and removed the Sarasota Curse as I planned to do all along.-- Johnny Spasm ( talk) 22:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Noted your clarifying restoration of the name "Hiawatha" to the list of characters voiced by Mel Blanc. Thanks. IIRC, that was the one that ended with the Native American saying he was the last Mohican and Bugs pointing out a stork carrying a baby that looks like Hi, who faints, then sees a huge flock of the birds, each carrying an infant version of Bugs, and he faints. That "Indian" was Mel? Wow! -- Ted Watson ( talk) 20:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Today is the day that defines history. Who you're for, by the way? (I promise I'm not trying to start a debate). -- Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 19:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I have been having problems with my Vandalism Warning scripts. Acroterion said you and him had a very similar conversation about that a couple days ago. He said you found a work-around to the problem, would you mind adding that work-around to my vandalism warning scripts? I would greatly appericate it. - NeutralHomer • Talk • November 6, 2008 @ 03:11
[21] - Um... I'm speechless. Richard Cavell ( talk) 13:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
...courtesy of a newly established editor that is unable to edit your semi-protected page. User talk:Baseball Bugs/hello. Just thought I'd give you the heads-up. Cheers! ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez Get to know me! / Talk to me!←at≈:→ 22:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
on the List of United States Presidential names you put in amazon as a source.. amazon is not a reliable source.. it's not even really a source.. and also, don't forget to put references in between <ref></ref> tags. - - ' The Spook ( TALK) ( Share the Love with Barnstars) 23:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
... for your willingness to engage in thoughtful dialogue! :) Wiki-Smile on you, EagleScout18 ( talk) 01:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
I apologize if I made you uncomfortable with the question regarding your political views. It was never my intention to make you feel that way, I was just purely curious as to who you were supporting, I wasn't trying to start something or put you in a bad position. I hope you can accept my sincerest apologies. -- Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 04:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Bugs. Though I agree with the presumptive Presiden-elect & presumptive vice president-elect crowds; It ain't a dispute worth continuing. Afterall, one could argue that the articles United States presidential election, 1804 to United States presidential election, 2008, should be renamed United States presidential and vice presidential elections, as there's elections for both offices occuring simultaneously. GoodDay ( talk) 19:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Why is he obsessed with you? If he doesn't like you, he can just do the simple task of avoiding you, which is quite easy since Wikipedia is a pretty big place. -- Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 22:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes) "The top text line should be bold and contain the full (official) name of the item. This does not need to match the article's Wikipedia title.".
Given that all former U.S. Presidents have their full name presented (i.e Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan etc). How is the removal of this standard here acceptable? Glen Twenty ( talk) 22:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
You have a pretty quick trigger, go there and restore the topic. Universalsuffrage ( talk) 01:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I haven’t seen the ad indeed, but I'm refereeing to the interview in which Powell endorsed Obama.
‘There’s gonna be a crisis come along on the 21st or 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now’. Some call it cryptic. Universalsuffrage ( talk) 04:06, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Ah come on, Bugs. I could understand having those Templates there, if they were called Presidents of the United States & the President-elect, Vice Presidents of the United States & the Vice President-elect. But that not what the Templates are called. GoodDay ( talk) 02:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Bugs. I'm glad you pointed out numbering terms at List of Presidents of the United States article. It made me check the VP counterpart page & wow, the date corrections I had to make there. GoodDay ( talk) 00:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm in a dispute at that article, concerning the date of the US Presidential Inauguration. GoodDay ( talk) 19:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, this one make me laugh a little :-D Digital Ninja 04:19, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I am way too tired to debate with Everyme right now and I am getting extremely tired of that user's high handed debating style. (I.E. I know the rules way better then you so shut up and stay in your corner!) So I am going to be quiet before I say something stupid in that debate. I've said my piece and even tried a compromise version which Everyme shot down as a "Strawman" argument and that I should stop distracting the discussion. (On a side note I am getting really exhausted of that user bandying around all the policies like we don't know them!) You know where I stand and what I am worried around. Thanks for letting me vent on your talk page! Brothejr ( talk) 15:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I understand that you have a humorously short (and mildly gruff) way of commenting on talk pages. I often find it funny. However, sometimes your comments can be counterproductive and foster an environment where disagreements are more likely to lead to flame wars and less likely to come to compromise. I understand this because I, too, am sometimes guilty of making sarcastic or humorous comments on these boards. I would just ask that you please try and tone it down a little and not follow one or two editors arounds making jokes at their expense and calling them "trolls" or other insulting remarks.
I am making this comment here so that it is private, and just between us. Feel free to delete it after acknowledging it in a response on my talk page. LedRush ( talk) 19:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Landon1980 ( talk) 04:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
"Get your pies for the great pie fight!" Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 05:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Sorry you've been driven away from Obama Bugs. Hopefully you'll get a few days break and then consider stopping back in. I'm this close my self, lest we let it get taken over by random kooks. Grsz 11 →Review! 05:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
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I know it seems like they are coming out of the woodwork sometimes and with my last post I seemed like I was really close to being burned out. But with some sleep, a good plate of food, some good music, and watching recent events unfold on Wikipedia while I was sleeping have made me a lot happier. Hopefully after a while you'll feel/be better and less burned out! :) Brothejr ( talk) 05:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Because the point of Wikipedia is to say to readers "here is the information, here is the source," not "go find the source yourself." Furthermore, the Adlai Stevenson article is very long and it could be a pain to find the reference there (searching the page for "Apostle Paul" gets it, searching the page for "Spoonerism" does not). It's really not that difficult to copy and paste a reference. — Politizer talk/ contribs 15:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I must have misunderstood you on the talk page. I thought you meant screwing over the voters, not the votes themselves. Bush liked around 500 thousand votes of winning the popular vote, but he still won the election. I don't know a whole lot about how it works, but when they meet on the 15 can't they vote for whoever they want? I think some states are required by law to go with the popular vote, but not very many of them. I agree that it is extremely unlikely, but it could happen, "could" being the operative word. I saw someone on the news the other night talking about the chances of this happening, and the experts say that Mccain would be likely to win popular vote yet still lose via electoral votes, not Obama. Most of them agreed there was a 10-15% chance of Mccain having an electoral victory. The very thought of it makes me nervous, surely this won't happen. Can you imagine the chaos, protests, etc. that would take place if it did happen? Landon1980 ( talk) 20:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Well now -- this certainly doesn't belong on the Obama page, but I couldn't resist a rejoinder: We Americans are often quite amused at the way the Brits mangle the Spanish language, e.g. Nicaragua (I suppose you know the actual pronunciation, to which the American "Nick-uh-rah-gwuh" is fairly close, then we have the Brits: "Nick-uh-rag-gyew-uh"(rag as in rag-doll, with southern Brit. accent). "Don Juan" in Americanese is "dahn-wahn" or "dahn-hwahn", but the British: "don-djew-uhn". or "herb", when we (English speakers) borrowed it from French, of course it had no "h" pronounced, and we continue the tradition here in the US, but the Brits have decided that old "h" MUST be pronounced. By the way, this "eye-rack" stuff": that's only a portion, probably a minority, from more "rural" backgrounds, but the strange British pronunciations I mention above are, as far as I know, recognised as standard in the UK. oh, I forgot "junta", Am: "hoon-tuh", Brit: "djunn-tuh" (dj is just my overly-clear way of describing the normal English j, as in Jack, i.e. not like French or German. Cheers. Jakob37 ( talk) 04:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC) p.s. (I can't resist it!) "towards" has been traditionally (for centuries) been pronounced as "tords", and still is in the US, but the Brits's "too-wards" sounds like a little baby just starting to figure out the language syllable by syllable. Sorry to be so mean---as a consolation, let me say that the way I have heard English pronounced by educated speakers in the Outer Hebrides is the most beautiful accent of all. Jakob37 ( talk) 04:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, do you think the National Post is so biased and downmarket that no article form them is RS? Mattnad ( talk) 15:06, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does it seem like you love to inject your liberal trash into these 2 articles then revert anything that is remotley RW? Seems like your pushing a non NPOV to me. 71.57.146.112 ( talk) 05:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be at RFCU, not AIV? I don't know the user, is it blatant from their edits? — neuro (talk) 20:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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For your amusement, Bugs, I point out to you that some editors feel as if the Rasputin of Wikipedia, User: Rollosmokes, has in recent days days tried a new tack in attempting to make his presence known and tweak article WPIX, among others. (I figured all concerned had pissed on his set fires long ago.) He quite possibly has resorted to some more less-than masterly sockuppetry. I only casually looked at a portion of the correspondence, so I don't know what's up, but if you've no more important claims on your time you might want to take a look. Damn me for a fool, but I really am tempted to send R's talk page (it is still active) a message conveying my unvarnished opinion of him...but better not. Lantana11 ( talk) 04:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 04:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Baseball Bugs. I see you rephrased your post on NWA.Rep's election questions page to be formally a question to him, though in practice a set of angrily-phrased accusations. (For instance: all editors are supposed to be welcome to "stick their noses into" any Wikipedia page, so that's a meaninglessly mean way of putting it.) I think it's pretty immoral to post a "question" like that to a candidate who you know isn't allowed to reply to it. I'm not going to do anything about it; I want to see first how my proposal for unblocking him for the purpose of posting on election pages only pans out. (Right at the bottom of the ANI thread, in case you want to comment.) But I think you should have a chat with your conscience. Bishonen | talk 19:15, 22 November 2008 (UTC).
You mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball#Reggie Sanders that NWA.Rep had lost his rollback privileges, so I thought I'd ask you--exactly how does someone go about getting them? I just found myself undoing five vandalism edits at Major League Baseball Most Valuable Player Award and I figure there has to be a better way. Rklear ( talk) 00:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
If you look at the Popeye the Sailor (Warner DVD series) article and the individual volumes, Furious Freddy has nominated the Warner DVD series for deletion and deleted the background sections of the individual volumes. Can you check it out? Steelbeard1 ( talk) 02:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
You may want to add your input in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Popeye the Sailor (Warner DVD series) page. Steelbeard1 ( talk) 14:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Go here. Viriditas ( talk) 00:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
The best-sized version would be one that is as small as possible but where the critical elements, including the fine print, are legible. Try one maybe 10-20% bigger, if that's no legible, increase it another 10-20%. You might also try less jpeg compression to see if that helps, or use GIF or PNG format. If by some miracle you can get one smaller that is completely legible, that would be even better. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 06:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
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It is unfortunate and disappointing that rather than have a discussion on the topic, it resorts to this instead of a finding of facts. Hopefully our next edits can be productive rather than back and forth.
Oh and by the way, that other guy you quoted has a history of editing political articles on the other side of this debate. I'm pretty sure my contributions have been limited to areas of philosophy and of biographies of non-politicians. Downzero ( talk) 11:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand your question. My contributions thus far look like motorcycles and freemasonry--not all that political now is it? Downzero ( talk) 11:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I only signed into my (ancient) account, to try to help see to it that the problem of HIS extremely distasteful edits was resolved (replacing 'Barack Obama' with 'N*gger Faggot' throughout Obama's article). Young children have most likely seen what he did - it made me feel a little aggrieved. Themusician31 ( talk · contribs) 00:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
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Was Commons:Image:Siena with Torre del Mangia.jpg the one you were thinking of? I've got some closer views to upload soon. — Wknight94 ( talk) 12:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I think I'm a transient, though I may become a squatter and in time, perhaps even a homesteader (on Wikipedia not your talk page). I'm a bit of a newbie, just registered today. I (like just about everyone else in the free world) have been utilizing the great internet encyclopedia for years, but now I feel the need to contribute. Any helpful suggestions? Unhelpful suggestions shall be considered as well, though they may require the use of mental floss. Glenda 69 ( talk) 01:42, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello. The issue here is long division, not what is or is not considered official. If you take 11.434 at-bats and divide it by 4189, it comes to .36636, which rounds to .366 (not .367). Just for the record (though not relevant here), Pete Palmer's ESPN Baseball Encyclopedia is considered by most historians as the more "official source." But the issue in this edit is long division, Sir. (Get out your calculator!) -- Jose cartagena ( talk) 18:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Don't get too worked up with that IP editor. They are just pushing the same exact conspiracy theory as before. They will get bored when they don't get their way and move on. Brothejr ( talk) 09:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Bugsy! I know it's been a long time since we last communicated and that my activity around here has been pathetically low for the last several months, but I still thought I'd drop by and wish you a Happy Thanksgiving Day!!! The only reason I can give for my absence on the wiki is that of an extremely busy schedule involving school, extracurricular activities, and my mother's health, as well as mine.
I just realised that it's been a little over a year since I first officially became a Wikipedian. Wow! How time flies!!! :) Y'know, you yourself were the first one to welcome me onto the site, and for that, I am truly grateful; your frequent collaboration is also very much appreciated.
Once again, I hope you enjoy yourself this holiday season! Sincerely, — Cinemaniac ( talk • contribs) 15:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Despite the verdict that the Popeye the Sailor (Warner DVD series) article should be kept, FuriousFreddy went ahead and created the redirect. I've reverted that change and informed the administrator who closed the poll in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Popeye the Sailor (Warner DVD series). Steelbeard1 ( talk) 11:56, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Please send me a listing of any vandals, sockpuppeteers, or other new problem editors you may have spotted lately, so that I can incorporate them into my next report for Georgewilliamherbert. Also, check in with Ebyabe regarding this matter. Hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving. -- Wknite94 ( talk) 19:27, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi BBugs, I know you aren't a fan of Limbaugh, but do you need to bring him into discussions about others? The logic that Limbaugh hasn't done something, so there isn't anything to it is sort of weird. Anyways, carry on :) -- Tom 21:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
The following are the contents of a .DOC file that I have copied and pasted and then uploaded to your specific talk page. The reason for this is not to cause ‘disruption,’ or to perpetuate an ‘urban myth’ or ‘urban legend,’ but rather to set the record straight.
The Constitution of the United States of America Article I, Section II states:
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”
Source: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html
We know he has gone by the names of Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, and Barry Dunham.
Source: http://www.wnd.com/images/ObamaIndonesia.jpg
The image referenced lists Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian Citizen who was born in Honolulu Hawaii on 4-AUG-1961. His religion is listed as Muslim. The AP has confirmed that is a genuine photo.
But there is a problem with that:
Source: http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/misc2008/ChicagoTribune-ObamaLtr-Nov-2008.pdf
“You have posted on the Internet an unsigned, forged and thoroughly discredited, computer-generated birth form created in 2007, a form that lacks vital information found on any original, hand signed Certificate of Live Birth, such as hospital address, signature of attending physician and age of mother.”
“ • Hawaii Dept of Health will not confirm your assertion that you were born in Hawaii. • Legal affidavits state you were born in Kenya. • Your grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended your birth in Kenya. • U.S. Law in effect in 1961 denied U.S. citizenship to any child born in Kenya if the father was Kenyan and the mother was not yet 19 years of age. • In 1965, your mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and you had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen.
The most important two points are the last two. According to United States law in 1961, US Citizenship was denied to any child born in Kenya if the father was Kenyan and the mother was not yet 19.
And, in 1965 his mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or US Citizenship she (and he) had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian Citizen.
These are distruptions? These are ‘urban myths?’ These are facts.
However, so as not to be “disruptive,” I have posted these to your talk pages.
Happy Trails! -- Dr. Entropy ( talk) 03:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the warning about my rhetorical usage. It may have helped had I read guidelines. Gotta read those guidelines. And for the record that post of mine you replied to was sarcasm. -- DemocraplypseNow ( talk) 19:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate your comments, Baseball Bugs, but I'm very interested in the 'why' right now. Instead of sarcastic replies or calling names or something else, I'm very interested in 'why.' I've submitted the facts of the case and you replied that it belongs in the sewer.
Whether you or I or anybody else agrees with them, those are the facts. From a legal standpoint, I'll agree it has a very slim chance of succeeding, which raises its own hornet's nest of issues. But those are the facts of the case.
In my IRL profession I have to deal with facts. Not innuendo, not suspicions, not opinions, not half-baked ideas that have substance only in a delusional mind, but with facts. If I were to go to my CO with an opinion I'd get (and have before) "My opinion doesn't matter. And neither does yours. Now since your opinion differs, I suggest you put it where nobody'll ever find it."
That applies here, I believe. Wikipedia is intended to be an encyclopedia, not a collection of documents written with a specific person's (or group of people's) opinions being expressed.
Above we must remain neutral. Period. Any slant to either side seriously jeopardises our stated goal, our mission, and above all our credibility.
Answering with facts and having a discussion on the facts in a calm, reasonable method is acceptable and is to be encouraged.
Belittling others is not.
Going forward, I do find myself in agreement with Eaglescout18. Address the issues, not the people. Thank you. :)
Happy Trails! -- Dr. Entropy ( talk) 23:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Do you generally have to put up with so much crap on your talkpage? it would drive nuts. -- Cameron Scott ( talk) 23:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello Baseball Bugs. Please see my comments in the general comments section of that RFA, as it pertains to your neutral vote. Thank you. -- Deskana (talk) 08:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bugs,
Political cranks are political cranks but maybe take it easy with the more animated namecalling against the far right. While there's nothing too unWikipedian about expressing what I'd call fairly left-wing (or certainly anti-right) views to shoot down efforts at swaying from NPOV to CPOV, it makes it harder for the people you're addressing to see that the version of the article that you're advocating doesn't contain the "Rush Slimeball"-type remarks you use as counter-argument. Particularly with Rush, it's slipping from sounding like counter-argumentative humour to irrational trivialising of the right wing community.
Your work on these political articles is really valued, but I thought I ought to point out this outsider's view of the way things are going so you might become a little less troll-o-magnetic. Cheers! Bigbluefish ( talk) 17:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd actually prefer you address the issues, rather than me personally, going forward. Thanks in advance. EagleScout18 ( talk) 21:54, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi. This your friend Mike (No Guru). You recently asked me for advice regarding your contemplated retirement. I recommend that you first participate in a relaxation technique, such as meditation or yoga. I would then advise you to discuss the matter with your wife (or your mistress), your kids, your best friend, and your pastor. By then, you should have a good idea where you stand. Do not discuss the matter with your adversaries, and do not waste your money on paid therapists, such as psychiatrists or psychologists. I hope this helps. Cordially yours, Mike (No Guru) --Mike (No Guru) (talk) 18:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Note: was originally posted on October 25, and was deleted by some wiseguy. This was restored on December 4, 2008. -- No Guru (UTC) ( talk) 23:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
The IP address pretty much had it right. Go to Google and enter "bugs bunny" coin 1987, and you'll see one for sale on eBay, for example. However, I would say it's just a souvenir of some kind, so I don't see where it warrants special mention in the article, as there have been countless Bugs icons through the years (and I should know, Doc). Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I am amazed at your incredible stalking ability. You should win a medal for that. There is no need to hold permanent, unnecessary grudge to a one-time content dispute. Please stay off my userspace in the future. Just some friendly advice.-- NWA.Rep ( talk) 07:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Go ahead. Investigate me. I couldn't care less. I know you really have an interesting life. I'm outta here anyway.-- NWA.Rep ( talk) 07:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Naw son. Gwen Gale got the record taken care of if he/she hadnt withdraw.-- NWA.Rep ( talk) 11:11, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I was aware of his attempts to hide the comments of others. I have been watching his talk page for a little while and know to review the history before every thinking about responding. I didn't bring it up because I don't want him to take that red herring and run with it ("oh, I was just trying to do this", "those editors are out to get me", etc.). I'm going out on a limb and hoping that he is actually remotely serious about helping out, not just a bull-headed POV warrior. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 05:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The NASL Comets played its 1975 home matches on the campus of Towson State University (now Towson University) because Memorial Stadium was too big for the crowds the team was drawing. The source of this information was the article titled "Outdoor Soccer Lost Three Teams In Baltimore," written by The Baltimore Sun's Mike Klingaman for the December/January, 1986 issue of Soccer Digest. The Ink Daddy! ( talk) 07:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I have no dispute. He has decided to make the issue about me, rather than about the articles in question. Frankly, I want nothing to do with the fellow, and only wish for him to stick to the matter at hand. Cheers! --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 19:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
He's off harassing people again... [23]... I'm going to block him. -- Esanchez( Talk 2 me or Sign here) 21:27, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bugs, just wanted to say that I *loved* the section header. [25] ;) -- El on ka 22:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Greetings Bugs,
I see you're quite the busy bee at ANI, and the ruthless Bugsy tactics look, well, pretty close to officious when it comes to the perceived errors and sins of other editors (not least the hapless ES18, against whom you campaigned vigorously and, it must be said, effectively, from a Bugsy point of view at any rate). If you don't mind my asking, what gives? You're obviously aching to join the sysops, so why don't you? I just don't get it. Pray enlighten! But no problem if you don't want to, or you just can't. And while I'm being a shameless nosy parker, why the semi-protection of your talk? Thank you. — Writegeist ( talk) 05:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure how changing the category from Category:American tax evaders to Category:American Tax Evaders resolves the BLP issue that you're identifying in this edit: [26] -- Bobblehead (rants) 18:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
arcteogry:tax edavers. You game for it? -- Rodhull andemu 01:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
He's back! --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 03:45, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi BB, wanted to drop a line that [27] is probably not the best way to address another contributor. Do consider this in the future. MBisanz talk 15:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Took a peek at that article. Wowsers, there's actually editors out there, who are taking the birth certificate thing serious. GoodDay ( talk) 21:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I saw that you reverted my edit regarding the president elect note. As an original party to the compromise, you'll remember how long we fought over this and how difficult it was to make all parties happy. At the end of the day we agree that it would be a footnote in the lead that would direct people to an explanation. The way it is now you'd never know that there is an explanatory footnote (and not a normal one). I understand why the footnote is no longer in the lead, but the idea is to inform people (as you yourself argued in the discussions). People can read the footnote and then look into the issue more if they want, or just see the sentence and understand all they need to about the issue. The purpose of the note is frustrated if the article is left as it is (as is the compromise we reached after many hours). I don't want to get in an edit war, and I certainly don't want another 10 pages of flaming and fighting, especially as we came to a compromise that has almost no effect on the article.
To me, this is also a problem of the integrity of process. We meet and discuss and fight and compromise for days, and finally agree to do something. Whether or not we agreed to have the NB note or not, that's what happened right after the compromise and that's what stayed there. Why do we even spend all our time making these compromises if we're not going to keep them until a new discussion reaches the consensus that we shouldn't? I just took a 17 day Wiki-break, but the lack of integrity and willingness to work together is so frustrating that I am still depressed by it (this is not a reference to you, but to the fighting in general). Perhaps I need more time away...
Please tell me what I will be blocked for? All I did was supply a link to a list of reliable sources and ask were in the article a criticism section should go. You can not argue that the sources are unreliable, this has already been decided elsewhere. Fru23 ( talk) 02:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I have been very delinquent, but please accept this:
This user helped promote Cubs Win Flag to good article status. |
-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 04:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey-Hey!!! Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I had noticed the silence, and was, to paraphrase Depeche Mode, enjoying it. But, yes, I assume it will not last. Cheers! --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 20:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Wow that was an unexpected result. To think all I wanted was a 30 day topic ban or so. It is interesting how he imploded so quickly. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 17:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello Baseball Bugs. Although we have not communicated before I have been following this drama over the last few days. I thought that I would make you aware of this post to Wknight94's talk page [28] since it looks like it may be connected. I am sure that Wknight will let you know about it but I did not know how long that might take. Of course it might not be connected - in which case - I hope that you aren't retiring since many of you post at AN and ANI make me smile :-) Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 22:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of potentially being "over the top," can you take a look at this article, and my comments on the talk page, and tell me if you thing I went too far? I would appreciate it. --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 21:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I think you're right, I will take it to the project, thanks. SixFourThree ( talk) 17:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree
You might be amused to know that I was once a Conservapedia editor. In my one edit, I responded to a question about whether Andy was really a lawyer, saying, "Why, yes. And Obama was his boss at the Harvard Law Review." The edit vanished immediately, and I was blocked for five years. PhGustaf ( talk) 05:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Those people gotta be major headaches for the Defence team. GoodDay ( talk) 00:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
WP:PLAXICO -- Smashville talk 00:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Sure, I can take a look, he just happened to get an article that I was watching. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 18:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
please see my revision on the talkpage. I apologize if the antecentednt for "they" was. I was refernig to other editors. Now if you have been in church more often than I, I will apologize forthwith. I refer to your edit on Orange Mike's page. Die4Dixie ( talk) 23:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
You have been named in an incident at ANI Die4Dixie ( talk) 01:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello from your fellow user in California. I wish you all the best, and since I see baseball is an important subject for you I shall share with you that I am a near life-long Los Angeles Dodger fan...I still remember the first time, many years ago, when I walked through the concourse at Chavez Ravine and saw my heroes on the green diamond backdropped by mountains and pastel-blue walls. Best wishes and by all means continued principled editing. Lantana11 ( talk) 04:43, 20 December 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 04:43, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Lantana11 ( talk) 06:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 06:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for taking part in the ANI regarding me. I know I may seem like a vandal, but my moves were honestly made in good faith. For a summary of my beliefs on the matter, please read WP:FBNC and tell me what you think of it. Tavix (talk) 21:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas! | ||
Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho (talk) 00:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC) | Baseball Bugs, here's hoping you're having a wonderful
Your recent meaningful participation in an ANI on sports-figure article disambiguation suggests that you may be interested in participating one way or another in the development and/or discussion of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople), a draft proposal to clarify Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) as applied to sports. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ cont] ‹(-¿-)› 04:15, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello Baseball Bugs! I just wanted to wish you and your family a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Have a great day and a wonderful New Year, from The Bald One White cat 11:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
<font=2> HHoyC (Happy Holiday of Your Choice)! Ebyabe ( talk) 16:58, 25 December 2008 (UTC) |
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It seems that a couple of editors have changed the religion part on the Obama page without any attempt at discussion. Please look at it and perhaps encourage them to revert and come to the talk page. Die4Dixie ( talk) 19:48, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Bugs! Haven't been around much lately, and I forgot to stop by here yesterday - but the very best wishes for the holiday season to you and yours. I've always admired your neutrality and political insight, and I have to say you're my very favorite Barack Obama supporter in the whole wide world...from one of the 48 to one of the 52, I'm looking forward to sparring with you (and agreeing with you whenever it's justified) over the next four years. Anyway, God bless you and keep you, my friend. Kelly hi! 20:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Again, just because your delicate sensibilities were disrupted by a general statement directed at no one in particular does not mean that it is disruptive to the project. The needless drama-mongering and strong-arming is what proved to be disruptive to the project. Read up on policies, guides and other related pages before further involving yourself into situations; also ensure that arguments are sound before latching onto them, else you do no one any favors. لenna vecia 21:14, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Bugs, you're my friend - I've been watching Joe the Plumber for a while without getting involved. Can you explain the occupation-mania at that article? Why is there such hysteria about whether he is really a plumber based on differing interpretations of licensing requirements? Does it really matter? Barring his recent book-writing gig, if he's not a plumber, what is he? A laborer? I admit I find this whole thing sociologically fascinating. The whole "not a plumber because his papers are not in order" seems unAmerican and I don't think I've seen it's like before outside of the legal and medical professions. I can understand the root sentiment (I'm military, and we refuse to call any old gun-toter a "soldier") but this instance is the first case I've seen the standard applied to blue-collar occupations. Kelly hi! 22:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey Bugs, could you take a look here and give an input on the discussion for this FLC? I think we need some neutral parties. We're trying to decide whether it's important to show managers elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame as players as Hall of Famers in managers lists. I know, confusing, but let me know if you can help out. Thanks! KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 22:40, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
I noticed in your edit summary at Mark Teixeria that you said to stop reverting verifiable information, well I know I can speak for myself, I was reverting vandalism from an IP, that kept saying he had signed with the Orioles, so that's why that info probably got removed, cause I know I didn't intentionally remove it. Thanks.-- Iamawesome 800 16:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Guess I was wrong. Die4Dixie ( talk) 07:50, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
If you want to take up a matter with me, please do so either here, or at my talk page. The current ANI is about a different situation than the football one. That is past us and I already said that I wasn't going to do it again. Also, I would like to know how I lie? I wasn't aware of lying. Tavix (talk) 22:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
What would you do if an editor went to a userspace page for someone else' adoption and then warned the editor about comments made there? Isn't think some type of wikistalking? Padillah ( talk) 23:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
That was an awesome quote at Talk:John McCain presidential campaign, 2008 - made me laugh out loud. As a matter of fact, it was so awesome it was like awesome on a stick, with awesome sauce on it. :) Kelly hi! 01:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
We never had fiat money before FDR either :). Die4Dixie ( talk) 06:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Trust me, I'm not sure even Don McLean knows the meaning of everything in "American Pie" -- and if he does, he's not telling. The experts are still debating it *grin*.
As for this song, the lyrics have been up since the creation of the article five months ago. It's nice to have them there so that we can plot out the links, so hopefully Mr. Cashman won't mind. - Dewelar ( talk) 06:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
No, no, no. I did not mean that. i meant that the creation of the spurious username for the purpose of making a fake RfA nom was vandalism, not your perfectly correct report of it. Please accept my heartfelt apologies for not making that clearer. -- Anthony.bradbury "talk" 20:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
JUL 2008 - DEC 2008
Hey, thought you might want to help me keep an eye on this again - seems Rollosmokes has started up his campaign of insisting that The WB and The CW shouldn't be listed under their actual names in infoboxes again. Since you were against him when he tried it on the WGN article, I figured you'd like to lend a hand... TheRealFennShysa ( talk) 15:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
IIRC, one of the lines in Bowie's Labyrinth soundtrack was something about a 'land serene'. Would that be it? EyeSerene talk 12:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Great comment. I don't recall seeing the one-eyed pipe smoking sailor man in kilts, being an overt tightwad or playing bagpipes. Steelbeard1 ( talk) 14:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Saw your edit summary and revert on Adlai. What you said is not really the case - this has only very recently been added to infoboxes around the encyclopedia by one single editor. I have no big problem with succession boxes showing this on bottom of page but in the infobox it is confusing and unclear - for example, it lists "election day" but he wasn't elected, doesn't say who he lost to, is out of chronological order which is against infobox style. Failed candidate is not an actual position held which is what we have always used infoboxes for in reverse chronological order. Again, up until a few months ago this was standard infobox practice - one editor took it upon himself to change infoboxes all over the place without discussion, and has added confusion, not clarity, so they are being reverted. Simply put, "nominee" is not a job, it's a job interview. The articles, of course, have detailed discussions of the failed candidacies as they should. But infobox is for actual positions held. I think it needs to be reverted back to the original. Tvoz/ talk 07:23, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you e-mail me when you get a chance? seicer | talk | contribs 13:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Just an update [1]. The user has again linked the image without an consensus which in terms is censoring an image. I would be happy for them to get an consensus and if that consensus is to have the image censored I would also be happy to follow the consensus but at the moment there is no consensus. Bidgee ( talk) 03:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I probably could have said "very tangential to the subject of food and drink". I think that bot needs to be reined in -- at the rate it's been tagging articles, all of Wikipedia will soon be part of the WikiProject. Kevin Forsyth ( talk) 15:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
In an effort to keep things civil I have reported your uncivil cheap shot to WP:ANI. Just because you seem to think my English skills are not up to snuff does not give you the privilege to post them publicly. It is just plain wrong especially given the issues there. You should know better. Now, I cannot WP:AGF with you. Before, I thought you were were acting in food faith. Now? Well I have doubts based on your post.[ [2]] 72.0.36.36 ( talk) 00:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Welcome, and thank you for your attempt to lighten up Wikipedia. However, this is an encyclopedia and the articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits, as you did to User:ChristianityMeansFreedom. Readers looking for serious articles will not find them amusing. If you'd like to experiment with editing, try the sandbox, where you can write (almost) whatever you want. -- Orange Mike | Talk 01:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm, I was wondering when scandal was going to pop up with Killebrew. Check page 81 of Allen's book. I guess his son Ken robbed a bank?! Here's a NY Times article too. Looks like he turned his life around though and now owns Killebrew Beverages? And Harmon went $700,000 into debt too? Hmmm. Do you know anything about any of that? — Wknight94 ( talk) 11:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
While I understand that User:Pug power's participation is a bit, shall we say, unique, some gentle guidance would probably be more effective in this user's case than poking fun. I understand you probably didn't mean any harm, but the 'net being what it is, I think something may have been lost in the translation. Thanks, -- Clubjuggle T/ C 14:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
You gave me a caution that was misplaced. I am still learning to navigate around here so please bear with me there. However, none of my edits have been unconstructive. The changes I made were not experiments. Merely fixing mistakes. As I said, I am willing to discuss the issue. But in the meantime, it would be nice if that baseball page would display facts correctly. There is already a lot of slanted info there, but no direct errors apart from the division title thing. I am willing to compromise the wording if someone wants to discuss. But one thing that cannot change is saying the streak is 14 when it most surely was not. MAL01159 ( talk) 17:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
MLB does not recognize the streak as 14. The 1994 season did indeed count. Players stats counted. Players got credit for a season played. Post season awards were dished out. The only thing that did not happen was MLB did not recognize an official division winner. Since the Braves, or any other team, did not win the division in a year that was played and went down in the record books, the streak was broken. The only way the streak could not be broken would be if MLB determined that the 1994 season was never played and did not count. But it did. So the Braves streak ended and 3, and they started a new one that lasted 11. MAL01159 ( talk) 18:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I have made this reference in the change I made. You should have seen it by now.
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/atl/history/year_by_year_results.jsp This is the Braves own listing of their results each season. You can easily count how many years in a row the GB was "-" (meaning, they were in first) There are many others. I'd like to know how can a team keep a division title streak alive when they played a season that counted in every book but did not win that year very season.
MAL01159 (
talk)
19:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Why would I be blamed for the edit war? You are just as guilty it seems. If I got banned for correcting mistakes, you ought to be banned as well continuing to present false information. MAL01159 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
You answered your own question. There were not division titles officially recognized in a year that went down in the record books as being officially played. Since the Braves did not win the division in a year that was officially played, their streak ended. Or is it your assertion that the entire 1994 season did not count? If it didn't, then the streak stayed alive because there was no season played.
MAL01159 (
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19:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
The Braves timeline thing is akin to someone SAYING that there are three trees on a piece of property but then when you go out and count them yourself, you only see 2. The Braves themselves show a gap in the division title streak in their year by year results listing. At best it shows a conflict. I propose that you actually count them out yourself to get the true answer. I count 11. MAL01159 ( talk) 19:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Will you get blocked if YOU revert it again to the incorrect version?
There has to be a higher authority than you in the blocking process here.
MAL01159 (
talk)
19:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Why would a consecutive division title streak count when the team did not win the division in a season that counted? Please show me proof the streak is 14. MAL01159 ( talk) 19:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
What the standings were when the strike hit didn't matter since MLB did not recognize any division winner that season. The point is, since there was no division winner in an official season that was played, the streak was snapped. MAL01159 ( talk) 19:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
There are many references to the streak being 11. Here is another... http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/ I'd say that the Braves own results itself is an authoritative reference. Here is a more appropriate baseball analogy for you. A game shortend by rain after 4 1/2 innings counts as a full and complete game. Just as the 1994 season was shortened. It counted as a full and complete season. You said yourself there were not championships in 1994. Since there were none, AND the season did indeed count, the streak ends. I think we need other parties involved here. Are you the final say in all things in Wikipedia? MAL01159 ( talk) 19:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
You never answered my earlier question... Will YOU get blocked if you keep changing the data to the incorrect version? MAL01159 ( talk) 19:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Your analogy is flawed because in order for the hitting streak to continue, a player needs an official at bat. Getting walked is a plate appearance, but not an official at bat. The 1994 season was deemed to be an official "at bat". The Braves did not get a "hit". It doesn't matter that circumstances made them getting that hit impossible. The streak still ends. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Are you the judge and jury of what is correct? What I have changed it to IS demonstrably correct. It is yours that is the incorrect version. Do you act as judge, jury and executioner here? I think we need others involved here. Will you get blocked if you keep reverting to what is demonstrably not a correct version? Show me an authoritative source that agrees with your view on this subject. I did. I showed you two. You showed me one. I have more. You want to see them? MAL01159 ( talk) 20:06, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
You have not shown me any source that claims the Braves streak was snapped. I have. All you have to do is click on the link, and count how many times the Braves won their division. You have yet to show me that the streak was not snapped. Please answer my earlier questions. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Since when is asking for verification "trolling"? I'm trying to work with you here but you refuse to answer my questions. And have refused to move the matter along to others to chime in on. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Not at all. My personal spin has nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact, my personal spin is that the Expos ought to be called 1994 division champs. But MLB does not recognize that. I am working with what MLB says. MLB says the 1994 season was played and no one was the division winner. That right there breaks the streak as the season was played. Every source (save that ONE your showed in words from the Braves site) says it is 11. I have showed you two sources. The Atlanta Braves own history. Baseball-Reference's assessment. And here is another from ESPN. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/alltime/franchise?team=atl You have showed me one. Please show me something to show the streak was not broken beyond you wishing it were so. Also, please answer my earlier questions. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Since there was no division winner in 1994, how can you say that the Braves' streak of division winners was snapped? I already addressed that. Here it is again. Because the 1994 season was played and no one was recognized as a winner. Therefore, any division title streak in play at that time was snapped. I have shown you three sources so far showing explicitly the streak was snapped. All you have shown me was one web page that ended up being inconsistent with data that very same source provides. It is also inconsistent with the data from the other two sources I cited. The overwhelming evidence says the streak is 11 and 14 of 15. Unless you have something substantial to add to counteract this. MAL01159 ( talk) 20:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Here is yet ANOTHER source for you. http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/atl/history/timeline4.jsp In the 1994 time line, it reads "The strike eventually forced the cancellation of the playoffs and World Series for the first time since 1904. The Braves finished second in the National League East, 6.0 games behind Montreal." If the season did not count, why then would they reference where they finished that season? MAL01159 ( talk) 20:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
If there was no division championship to be had, then what were the players playing for before the strike? The decision to not recognize a division winner was made AFTER the final 48 games and post season were canceled. The only way for the streak to remain intact would be if the Braves won the division in 1994. They did not. Streak ends. I have shown you 4 sources that confirm this. What do you have to show on your side? MAL01159 ( talk) 21:04, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
"Arguing my own logic"? What does that mean? You are wrong. I have provided 4 different sources. I have no control over weather or not you perceive them to be credible. I, however, am still waiting for you to present something to show they won 14 in a row that was not contradicted on it's own web site. MAL01159 ( talk) 21:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
There is no other source besides the final standings. 1994 was the only season that did not produce an official division winner. We are in agreement on that. Knowing that, you may use the final standings to count the consecutive division titles for yourself. BTW, where on mlb.com does it say the record is 14? I have yet to find it. I'm still waiting for you to provide a source that is not contradicted by itself. Do you have one? MAL01159 ( talk) 21:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Do you have some kind of compromise that does not mislead the reader on the matter? I say we go with 14 of 15 and reference at one point that MLB officially doesn't recognize any division winners from the 1994 season. That would be 100% factual and not mislead the reader. If that were said nearby, we could even say they won 14 but that streak was interrupted in 1994. What do you say? MAL01159 ( talk) 22:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Exactly! There were no winners! Therefore, the streak ended! The Braves would have had to win for the streak to continue. MAL01159 ( talk) 22:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
No, all that needs to happen is for them to NOT win. They didn't win. The Baseball Almanac says the record for consecutive wins by a team is 21. Set by the Cubs two different times. The record for an unbeaten streak is the afore mentioned Giants run of 26-0-1. Why do you keep asking me for more sources? I have given you 4. You have given me one that was contradictory. You need to find an authoritative source that says their streak is 14. MAL01159 ( talk) 16:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
You appear to be dead set against using wording that will satisfy us both. Why is that? MAL01159 ( talk) 16:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
The Braves portion of MLB.com states that the record is 14. The Braves portion of MLB.com also shows the record to be 11. MAL01159 ( talk) 16:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
So, because a property owner SAYS there are 5 trees on a property you blindly accept that? Even when you go to the property and look, and see only 4 trees? Don't you want to be more certain than just ONE source that contradicts itself? You have earlier stated that there are many places that prove the number to be 14. Yet you only show me the one that contradicts itself. Why are you avoiding this challenge to find an non-contradictory source? And why are you against using verbiage that satisfies all? And why are you avoiding any question I ask of you? MAL01159 ( talk) 17:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
(I hope you can find the strength to resist engaging him again; I've certainly enjoyed the peace and quiet -) JohnInDC ( talk) 15:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
LMFAO. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 18:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bugs,
I've reverted the edit you made here, which removed italics from the name of a TV series (going against WP:MOS) and which added back dubious content which cannot be sourced.
Whatever your beef with User:Rollosmokes, there was no reason for you to make that edit, which reverted the article to poorer quality material than what Rollosmokes had added. I do not condone Rollosmokes' incivility, but there's no reason to damage encyclopedia content because you're angry with someone. Firsfron of Ronchester 15:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
[ [3]] took approximately 1 minute, 5 seconds. -- Abd ( talk) 16:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
"Although I try to make up for that effeteness by being a nattering nabob of negativism. 0:)"
I was present for the "CW" dispute, and that dispute was retarded, where as the 55 Gallon Drum dispute, while retarded, isn't about grammar or a hyphen. In fact, I'd argue it has nothing to with anything the CW dispute was. But, that's just me. I was trying to be all sorts of nice about it too. Now, while still being nice of course, I'm going to have to break out the war drums on this one. (you're not the only one who can make HORRIBLE puns and word plays) Beam 04:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Answer: It can mean that. I can also suggest a few other meanings such as in dasa. Why ask me? What Baseball Bugs means? Wikidās ॐ 14:01, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
if you don't take the bait, the conversation is ended. Kingturtle ( talk) 15:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I've just read that the upcoming Looney Tunes Golden Collection: Volume 6 will be the final entry in the Golden Collection DVD series! What the hell?! No!!! Say it ain't so!!! :( Cinemaniac ( talk • contribs • critique) 01:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Per User talk:Rollosmokes#Unblocked, this account is unblocked. I would be really grateful if you could ensure that any future interaction is conducted in good faith. LessHeard vanU ( talk) 08:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
yes, but if you'd just agre with me, imagine how nice 100% would feel! ThuranX ( talk) 22:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I AM 100% AGAINST THIS.... A. THERE IS NO SOURCE AND B. IT IS MENTIONED IN THE SECTION "FALL OF 69" SO WHY DO IT TWICE!!!! Wjmummert ( talk) 23:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I CERTAINLY THINK THAT ALL CAPS IS THE WAY TO COMMUNICATE IN A NON-AGGRESSIVE MANNER!!!! -- Allemandtando ( talk) 23:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Do you know anything about Baseball Bugs - What's up Dr.? ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? So far, this user made one edit, to User talk:Ebyabe, announcing retirement. Is someone impostering you, or is this just a case of a duplicate username? Or is it actually you? -- Elkman (Elkspeak) 19:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
This edit should be cast in bronze and properly memorialized. Good show. 172.169.182.126 ( talk) 04:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
"I gather that your complaint about the article is that it doesn't say enough about illegality and costs, and you've got a point. You should write up a prospective paragraph on the subject and post it on the talk page, if you have not already done so. I think it belongs in the "safety" section, because most of the folks doing this are probably kids who think they're immortal."
The only issue with this is, Papa has been equating urban exploration solely with its illicit nature and with the cost of providing security. Urban exploration is not solely about illicit activities, as I have been exploring abandonments legally for years through communications with various property owners, businesses and even the military. Security is a side effect, especially if the property has been vandalized -- but urban exploration is not vandalism, and both are wholly separate topics. Urban exploration is also not solely breaking and entering, although some do take the task to do so.
We came to a consensus to rewrite portions of the text and remove some of the dubious claims, and the page was unprotected after I made a request at RFPP. Papa has made little effort outside of trying to equate urban exploration with vandalism/breaking and entering and/orproviding rather dubious sources or original research. If you could, some outside eyes would be appreciated on the talk page.
As for the protection, I reverted on the basis that Papa has been conducting drive-by taggings, offering little rationale and stating that other editors have the burden to provide the proof of evidence that the article is not POV, instead of the tagger providing the burden of proof that the article is. I reverted to Papa's version and then I had to step out to a meeting. I was not informed of the thread on ANI (it's no longer watchlisted) nor was any communication given to me about it -- had it been done, I would have been happy to discuss the edits. seicer | talk | contribs 13:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in a duplicate thread, WP:AN#Need some admin opinions. seicer | talk | contribs 16:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I think if you take a hard and honest view in the mirror, you'll see why I'm not all that thrilled to be contributing, having been thus vilified in advance. Papa Lima Whiskey ( talk) 15:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Not. LessHeard vanU ( talk) 19:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Rollosmokes looks to be back, this time as User:Black Waves. I've moved the issue back to WP:ANI and notified whichever admins issued the original indef-blocks. -- 66.102.80.212 ( talk) 22:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Let's have another go at this, shall we? I've submitted Bugs Bunny for peer review. If you wish to participate, click here. — Cinemaniac ( talk • contribs) 20:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just to give you a heads up. I posted a 3RR warning on PLW's talk page and figured this would be left at that. He has then reverted it a couple times and then turned it into some kind of vague threat from me. Here's the diff's: [5], [6], [7]. Personally I would not care less as long as he had taken the semi friendly warning on board and left it at that. Yet, he seems to be taking all this very personally, he 3RR warned me and Seicer, and then removed all traces of the warning from his talk page. I felt that due to his continual confrontational attitude, that the warning should be reposted with some friendly advice to take a break and cool down. Yet, he quickly changed the name of the section, deleted the warning, and is trying to make me look like the bad guy? I'm going to back away from his page for a bit, but do you recommend anything more then that? Brothejr ( talk) 00:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Puffy.... ha. Why you talkin bout My waistline? Wjmummert ( talk) 03:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for uploading Image:Lakewood Mausoleum room.JPG. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. Sdrtirs ( talk) 13:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Right it's ok for them to do this and leave there comments up still [8]. I'm not going to put up with this BS. Bidgee ( talk) 07:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
This is not spam but I would like to speak with you off wiki. I can be reached at writetoomee@yahoo.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.148.120 ( talk) 07:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
It was to avoid trolls and wikistalkers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.148.120 ( talk) 07:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
You are "Baseball" Bugs.
How can I send a secret snark when you're playing coy? - brenneman 07:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
These are the diffs I (will get an account soon) found "threatful" http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Moreschi&diff=prev&oldid=226880350 http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Kerala_school_of_astronomy_and_mathematics&diff=prev&oldid=226878753 Was just trying to solve the riddle... anyways keep it up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.60.172 ( talk) 12:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm considering this for GAR. See my message to User talk:Kingturtle#Lou Gehrig. Your thoughts? JGHowes talk - 16:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Tbb
if you don't reply to a troll, the troll has nothing to respond to, and no way to bait you. try the silent treatment for a full week. see what happens. Kingturtle ( talk) 22:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I would like to request your audience here. I look forward to any input you may have. Libro0 ( talk) 23:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, quick question, can we consider the NPOV issue over at Urban Exploration resolved? The edits you did have stood and seem to be supported by the consensus? Brothejr ( talk) 00:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Why am I not being included in the discussion of whether to remove the tag? Papa Lima Whiskey ( talk) 09:26, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Greetings from California. It is not necessarily my business but I could not help but take not of your recent interactions with User:Rollosmokes over some television station article editing. I had a couple of similar set-tos with this editor in the month previous. I decided that I had better uses for my time than to war with this individual for whom reason and rationality had long left the building. I had no idea then that his fulminations were standard operating procedure; I thought that he for some reason had taken a particular dislike to my edits and even to my own personality. Congratulations to you for sticking to principle, working for the betterment of Wikipedia and contributing to the exit of this gaseous user. May he find some distant avenue for his bilious energy. Lantana11 ( talk) 03:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 03:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Bugs, so far as I know you and I have never had a problem with each other. I don't consider you an adversary, an enemy, hostile to me or someone I'm hostile to. I didn't mean my comments at ANI to imply anything to the contrary or be personal in any way. I hope they didn't read as if they were. I admire and appreciate the work of yours I've seen. I hope you'll understand that the policy at WP:SEASON isn't meant to confer ownership on the article's creator; it's meant to stop date warring. In fact the policy doesn't necessarily protect the original version, but any long-term stable consensus version. The policy is "leave it the way you found it" not "leave it the way it was originally created" unless there's a substantive reason supported by a clear consensus to change. I'm sure you'll agree that the consensus expressed in the discussion is to leave the article with the BCE/CE era style intact. I just reverted your last edit to restore that. I hope you'll appreciate that the main contributors to the article are trying to get it to FA status and came to ANI looking for relief from the disruption they were experiencing. I intend leaving the article alone now and hope you will do the same.
Best wishes and happy editing. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 05:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I apolgize for using the words legal action in my comments. it was uncalled for and won't happen again.
How can i get the truth and the facts on this page. There is alot on there that does not belong there.
What can i do to help me resolve this.
Thanks,
Michaelmink
Do you think your newly created articles should have space for the copyright dates related to the cartoons? Agtax 22:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I think that expanding it to all sports might be a good idea. Adding a chart to it might make it look nicer, perhaps with a references column (we could probably find most through a Google search). It would be nice to have a lead too. Maybe we could get a few more guys from WP:BASEBALL to help out? Black ngold29 17:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
If putting things on my radar keeps them off the radar of other, more respectable and productive editors, then my job is done. - Dewelar ( talk) 23:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I moved this here, if this is left in my talk page its just a matter of time until they start coming
When I saw "native country", I said, "Whoa!" This is a misleading statement. Puerto Rico is arguably "semi-independent", but that's not the same thing as being "independent". To call it a "native country" is factually incorrect. How about "birthplace" instead? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
To characterize Puerto Rico as a separate country, without qualification, is POV-pushing. I'm well aware that it's a hot-button issue. But as long as the U.S. Congress has some say in Puerto Rican affairs, they are not fully independent. There has to be a way to say it differently, e.g. "birthplace" instead of "country". P.S. I do not promote the Yankees. Let me put it a different way: I wanted to see why the Tigers had bailed on the 2008 season and maybe given the Yankees what they need to go to the playoffs yet again. Curse them Yankees anyway. >:( Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
My dad and I were talking about Jack Wilson, who has stated he plans on playing 10 seasons and then retiring. He's been on the Pirates since 2001, he made the all-star team once. And thanks to Pittsburgh's wonderul owners he has never been on a winning team. So we were wondering if he is close to having played the most seasons without a winning one? I figured if somebody would know, you would. I don't know if anyone was on the Phillies for that long when they had their drought (if not then he's definately in the running for consecutive losing seasons with one team) or someone who kept getting shuffled around and caught a lot of bad breaks. Any thoughts? Black ngold29 19:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Anyway, I'm assuming Blackngold means .500 seasons, as the Bucs haven't been at or above .500 since their heartbreaking NLCS loss to the Bravos in 1992. We at least have a benchmark in Ted Lyons - we know the record is at least 9 seasons of being on a below-.500 team (I'm not sure what to do with exactly .500, if that becomes an issue, but I'm inclined not to count it, as it's not a losing season). So we would first have to make a list of every 10-years-or-more stretch of below-.500 seasons. Then scan the rosters and look for likely candidates. That in itself would take several long weekends. Unless someone else has done it already. I'm not sure how to look for something like that in Google. It's not a conventional baseball "record", it's more like "trivia". Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
User talk:70.119.13.45 insists on deleting a portion of the Warner Bros. Cartoons article when the studio was closed circa 1964 when animated titles for The Porky Pig Show was produced by Hal Seeger in New York. Steelbeard1 ( talk) 19:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
"I think it was you that added a bunch of fact tags to Kiner's article back on July 19th. Several of those items are already covered in the external links. What's the point of linking the same information 2 or more times in the same article? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)"
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Answer- Probably because I'm only human, and I make mistakes sometimes. What was the point of making such a mountain out of a molehill? What was the point of not giving me the benefit of the doubt that I just happened to not see the external links that you mentioned? (which I DIDN'T). I don't have all day to be editing Wikipedia. You could have been a little bit more polite in what you wrote to me. I've ALREADY had a rotten day. Give me a break! If I inadvertantly made a mistake, then I'm SORRY! Every other person has been polite who has written to me to call me on an error that I've made. What is the point of your being so rude in the tone of what you wrote to me? Is it really necessary? Please be more civil in what you write, and people will be more civil to you, as well. Slater79 ( talk) 02:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks! Much better. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 14:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
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BASEBALLS BUGS IS AN UGLY IGNORANT FOOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.166.166 ( talk) 23:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I dare because its true -- 190.49.166.166 ( talk) 00:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Ugh! I almost stepped in the poop! - BillCJ ( talk) 03:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
When are you leaving Wikipedia? You have been talking about it for some time. Would this be another Michael Jordan, Roger Clemens, or Brett Favre situation. Enlighten us!! -- Bob Purkey ( talk) 17:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
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← Shucks, folks, I'm speechless.
I should have asked you for permission before deleting my own comment regarding a particular user ("I Guess It's Moot Now, But..."), and I hope that there was no violation of either the spirit or the letter of Wiki policies. I thought in retrospect that these words were rather harsh and perhpas regrettable--and now irrelevant anyway. But it is your talk page after all. Pardon any inconvenience. Lantana11 ( talk) 21:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 21:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hello again. It looks as if the ABN AMRO is unlocked now. At the writing, the only new edits are positive ones in which the last remaining mentions of "ABN Amro" were corrected to ABN AMRO. So we should watch the article closely to avoid more edit and renaming wars. Steelbeard1 ( talk) 17:47, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I have re-nominated this article for deletion. Please provide your input to the discussion. -- Elliskev 17:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure if I'm wasting my time here; I think it's likely that you view me with contempt and take my remarks about your position, which I genuinely have trouble understanding, personally. I saw that you were puzzled that "someone editing for two years" would persist in disagreeing with you about applying the MOS, and I wanted to come here and invite you to at least understand my perspective. The tone of that comment and some others suggest to me that you believe that I'm a troll or vandal or something like it, which puzzles me because I can see from your side that you're at least operating in good faith. (Or at least most of the time, anyway, implying that you'll "take me to ANI just like some guy who got blocked" is pushing it at the very least.) My issue is that every guideline we have that deals with naming, both in letter and spirit, calls for standard English. I've been involved with this issue for a while, and I've found that the people who are most adamant about ignoring the guidelines are the people who are fans/clients/employees of the given band, brand, or company. Most people, when approaching the issue from a broader context, tend to recognize the value behind the guideline, which I've articulated before and won't rehash again here.
The reason I care about this is that there was clearly NOT consensus to use "AMRO" when the page was returned there. My feeling is that, whatever you think of the first RM discussion, it was closed as move to "Amro," which is the style more in line with our MOS. I opened up a second RM discussion because the "straw poll" that Steelbeard1 opened was obviously going to have our three votes and then the votes of whomever else he canvassed to come support him. Using the RM procedure invites other editors, who are less likely to have a vested interest, to participate in the discussion. You may have considered the matter settled because there were more of you interested in arguing with me on the talk page, but if you count up all the opinions on the talk page at the time, it was basically divided evenly between the two styles. Had there been evidence of a consensus to use AMRO without the move, then there wouldn't have been much for me to say or do about it, and I'd have left the issue alone. I hope that you'd feel the same way if the consensus went against you, but I have to confess that I have serious concerns about whether or not you would really be willing to abide by such a consensus.
I don't want to discuss the merits of the issue here, since that discussion belongs somewhere that other editors would be more inclined to comment on it. I'd just ask you to consider whether Wikipedia should really be the most prominent source using these nonstandard styles within article text. Do we follow secondary sources, or do we just do what the advertising department of the band/company want us to do? Croctotheface ( talk) 19:52, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
(removing indents) Here's my question, which I asked more than once in a way that I thought was pretty clear: are you interested in understanding me here or not? Do you refuse to accept that there is reasoned disagreement about which style is right to use? Croctotheface ( talk) 02:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
When Paige joined the Indians in 1948, there were many comments about him being the oldest rookie in MLB history. The fact is that he was considered (by sportswriters) a rookie in 1948, a perception that persisted for many years after, but Paige himself found that designation insulting, and announced that if he DID win the RoY award that year, he would refuse it (didn't have to, as he received zero votes).
Such "records" as "oldest" and "youngest" player to do whatever have never been official MLB records, so calling it a "record for oldest rookie" is a bit of a misnomer to begin with. Whether Paige is considered to have been a rookie in 1948 depends upon the individual researcher/historian, and whether or not they consider the Negro Leagues to have had an average talent level that was equivalent or near-equivalent of MLB.
While it is freely accepted that the best players of Nippon Pro Baseball are of MLB (and possibly HoF) caliber, it is also accepted that the average talent level is still somewhere near Triple-A level. They can base such assumptions on direct comparisons of player performance when moving betwen the leagues, something they had little chance (nor inclination) to do in the 1940s. I know that Paige did better in the American League in 1948 than he did in the NAL earlier that same year.
Concluding, since there are no official MLB records that considers age and there is wide debate as to whether the Negro Leagues' talent level should be assessed as minor or major league equivalence, I would not call Satchel Paige a 42-year-old "rookie". - - Couillaud ( talk) 21:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
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I'm just kind of throwing this out there, I don't know if it'll catch on. I've been doing the Pirates' stadiums ( PNC Park and Three Rivers Stadium are GAs) and I started thinking that it would be cool to get a Featured topic for the current stadiums of MLB. We'll need about 7 FAs and the rest GAs to get that, so it'll take a while. I figured if we need that many FAs we should make them the best stadiums (Wrigley, Fenway, Camden Yards). If I recall correctly you are a Cubs fan, so would you be interested in helping with Wrigley Field? I was able to do the Pitt ones fairly quickly (I wrote Heinz Field in one day), but I had a good deal of knowledge about them going in which won't be the case for most other ones. I thought I'd throw it out to you and then we could go to WP:BASE and see if anyone else would be interested. Thoughts? Black ngold29 02:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Since I was talking to you on blackngold's talk page, I figured I might leave this message directly for you as well. The review is complete. There are a few issues holding it back from GA status. I've put the article on hold for one week to give the editors time to address them. I will revisit the article in a week, or if you feel the issues are taken care of sooner than that, you're free to let me know at any time. Nosleep ( talk) 08:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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I still haven't figured out what Bugs Bunny has to do with baseball. I suppose I would like to ask you for help. If the other side (they aren't evil, just misguided) can enlist their minions or support, then I feel I can ask you for your assistance at the 2008 Olympics incident page. How are you by the way? Overmoon ( talk) 09:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Saw your comments on ANI re the German murderer "courtesy" flap, and you said it. Just goes to show that Wikipedia needs to decide soon whether it wants to focus on accuracy or being "nice." Can't be both, because reality isn't "nice." Aunt Entropy ( talk) 23:02, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Bugs, I think in one of our first converstaions, I was trying to explain the necessity of using proper souces, or something along those lines. Since then, I've watched your work in various baseball related articles, the basball project, and on a few other type articles too. I just want to say you've done a great job learning the ropes around here, and have become a valuable editor. I especially appreciate you taking the forefront on the Braves division win-streak issue. Having been through that issue a few times before, it was nice not to be the one carrying all the water! So thanks for the good work, and I hope you can continue it. - BillCJ ( talk) 03:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Re this, I swear to Zeus, Jimi Hendrix, or any other deity of your choice that I had no idea there were vulgar connotations to that name. I just thought it was a funny name from the Piranha Brothers skit. Raymond Arritt, editing for the nonce as Basil "Basil" Fawlty ( talk) 01:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm no Virgin!
you're welcome to have sex with me sometime.
call me: 07981041079
xxx
PushMyCrumpet PopMyCherry AndCallMeTina ( talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for removing that comment at ANI, especially because I know you disagreed with my perception of it. Delicious carbuncle ( talk) 18:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
You might want to look at this, where your comments about Betacomannd are being taken to be supportive of the recent unblock, which is not how I took them. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk / cont) 00:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
How is my wording poor in Elmer's Candid Camera? Fangusu ( talk) 04:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
i just want to know what you have against the man, i cannot expet everyone to be keen on his music but you have to remember that he has not touched a kid and was found inersant - would you let your kid sleep in a bed with him?? i would put any of my kids in bed with michaels and sleep easily myself nowing that they were safe. even mcauley culkin was safe and although they may be close friends to say that he is abusing and using them to touch him intimately is and cannot be truth!!
leave him alone he is an innocent!! Danforthkeeton ( talk) 15:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
you know!!
he HAS been accused of child abuse BUT
was found innocent-----> so!
not fair to call him a child molester or and kind of kidsex, RIGHT. Danforthkeeton ( talk) 16:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
MICHAEL JACKSON
The King of POP! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danforthkeeton ( talk • contribs) 16:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
As a participant in the recent discussion at WP:ANI, I thought you should be informed of the new RFC that another user has started regarding FPaS's behavior.
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Thanks, I wouldn't have even noticed it but you made an edit and the article popped up in my watchlist, so I thought I'd see what it looked like these days. IvoShandor ( talk) 20:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Just FYI, I ripped off a userbox from your user page, and fiddled with it a bit. I put it up here. Hope you don't mind. Ed Fitzgerald "unreachable by rational discourse"( t / c) 09:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Your thread is inappropriate based on sarcasm. You would not say that you enjoy any repeated harassment by the troll for a long time. I already had several bogus files on me at ANI. (just three days ago) I filed to request for blocking him in his IP range, so I strongly request you to retract the thread. Thanks.-- Caspian blue ( talk) 19:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Whose judgement where?
Now, bugs, I was very willing to play fair over this. Making an allegation of a race hate campaign, a persistent effort to game the Korean-Japanese pages, is not a superficial matter.
I have been watching, and documenting, this for months and many people's time is being wasted. I am not simply playing sock over this, I want to be very open and honest but I am asking for reason in return. -- 58.94.57.6 ( talk) 20:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I believe Caspian Blue is referring to this Message from Lucyintheskywithdada. Enjoy. -- Amble ( talk) 21:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
...on the "Request for range-blocking evading troll" AN/I thread, and elsewhere. It's so nice to see someone looking for all sides of a story, even from anonymous editors, instead of jerking their knee! Mr. IP 《 Defender of Open Editing》 06:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Nice! -- Dweller ( talk) 11:36, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for having a good sense of humor. That Sarah Palin talk page is decidedly dreary and unfunny, and every bit of levity and normality helps. Coemgenus 14:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I removed the list of cartoon episodes, as they have nothing in common with the movie, excpet for the fact that the panther appeared in the start of the movie.
-- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 08:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
You think that I am a troll, then check out the user that asked if he thought he was Michael Jackson. Ericthebrainiac ( talk) 14:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
New user — Travis talk 22:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Here. Kelly hi! 22:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Stop trolling, I've already discussed this with FisherQueen on her talk page and she said that she didn't see his comment. Don't restore the comment again. Khoi khoi 04:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
You're correct in your assessment. It is well-within our rights to sue, but we aren't allowed to say that on Wikipedia. But he's blocked, so I'm not sure what else you want to do. I can try to explain again to him if you want me to. He may not have realized that he cannot revoke the GFDL once he clicked the submit button, and he was trying to prevent a certain user from what he perceived as destroying an article he created, so he felt the only way to get him to "stop" was to say something like that. He didn't know about WP:NLT at the time and after I told him he backed off.
So I can talk to him if you want me to (FisherQueen and I are both admins). He wasn't community banned, only blocked for one sentence really. BTW I remember you from three years ago. Do you remember? Khoi khoi 11:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Haha, you can see more about that guy here, where he declares Kurds and Persians to be "enemies of Azeris." Anyways, good luck to the Cubs. Ciao, Khoi khoi 04:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
15 minutes? Hmm... I didn't mean to. Oh well, I'll reblock him if he comes back. Exploding Boy ( talk) 05:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
What's up Bugs. Just wanted to say, I like the image you've got for your User page (Bugs reading). Cheers. GoodDay ( talk) 00:39, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Several of us, in talking about this, think it's best to just totally leave that guy alone unless he specifically asks for something. He's essentially engaged in belligerence and trolling-like behavior at this point. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Dear Baseball Bugs, do you like baseball? Your name seems to suggest that. We can collaborate together to make baseball-related articles better. AdjustShift ( talk) 04:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I like your sence of humor very witty, is thier a humor barnstar on WP? «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 14:55, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
The Prom3th3an Humour Barnstar | ||
I Prom3th3an, Almighty comedian of Wikipedia hereby award you (Baseball Bugs) this barnstar for doing or saying something that I found extremly humourous or otherwise witty beyond expectation. Take a bow. PS: Your name has now been crossed of my whichunt list ;) «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 15:02, 11 September 2008 (UTC) |
My humility is being severely tested, due to this unpresidented unprecedented(
Captain hoek (
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Baseball Bugs
What's up, Doc?
15:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Fine. I'll make a special trip downtown to the offices of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, get special permission to spend a week in their morgue (neglecting all other responsibilities in the meantime), and go through a year's worth of forty-year-old newspapers one at a time to find a copy of an article to prove what I know to be true from having heard it with my own ears, just for you, because you think I might be making it up.
Or maybe not, because I actually have a life and more important things to do than neglect my children jump because a wiki-bureaucrat says "frog". --
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Hi Bugs. I see you do great work on Sarah Palin. Would you please be able to take a look at the Joseph Smith Jr page. As a very well established user, you'll have a better idea than I about whether its NPOV. Personally, as you'll see on the discussion page, I don't think it's at all well written. In particular the line 'Some measure of common sense had begun to return to Missouri leaders once the Latter Day Saints no longer posed a political threat.' irks me and i don't want to initiate an editing war by killing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain hoek ( talk • contribs) 22:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
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Bugs, for all your hard work on the wiki since you joined us last year and for having one of my favourite usernames on the wiki, i just have to give you this for you to munch on, i know they are healthy so please enjoy :) Also for the slack you have taken on the wiki like the above comment, i hereby give you this:
All Around Amazing Barnstar | ||
Baseball Bugs Bunny for your hard work and making me smile when i see your name around the place, i give you this in the hope it will put a smile on your face and continue your adventure here on the wiki. I know that because of your name, you have been impersonated many times by vandals, socks and by your fans so enjoy your popularity and may it make you stronger and make you the bravest bunny on Earth! Monster Under Your Bed ( talk) 03:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
Do you have a citation for the Robbo context of " My Kind of Town"?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 07:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Yah, I should have posted on the board after I saw your note ... got distracted by a football game that was pissing me off. Bad to be adminning and yelling at the television set simultaneously. :/ Antandrus (talk) 21:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, happy. Now it's not just an anonymous IP address. 151.204.140.88 ( talk) PS Love your username. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.204.140.88 ( talk) 02:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Your user page is by far the best I've seen. When I first came upon it, for a second I genuinely believed that sock-puppet warning was real! It's hilarious and creative. If Wikipedia had an official user page designer, it would have to be you. Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 20:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Regarding my proposed retirement - I am still wrestling with the agonicing decision pertaining to my possible retirement. I recently had a session with my priest about it. I will let you when my decision is final. Sincerely, Baseball Bugs - What's up, Doc? September 16, 2008 (UTC)
I proposed a rename from Category:Negro League baseball to Category:Negro league baseball on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy at 01:52 UTC on 15 September 2008. The rename has not taken place yet, and since there seems to be some controversy, I am planning to initiate a non-speed CfD in the near future. Four of this category's subcategories have already been renamed through the speedy rename process. In each case, I was the proposer, and User:Vegaswikian was responsible for putting them in the work queue. Stepheng3 ( talk) 18:29, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
I believe you asked for one of these.. ;)
The pooheadIU@13726*!@^(&!# Barnstar | ||
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Prince of Canada t | c 15:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
(Also, upon reading through your userpage.. you are a hoot. If you're ever in my neck of the woods, I have a beer with your name on it. That is.. real beer. Not the fizzy yellow water stuff y'all have down there. ) Prince of Canada t | c 15:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Baseball Bugs. Most of the time you're quite helpful on ANI, but on occasions, you could cut down on the snark - please? Your contributions to threads like this and this aren't really helping anyone, and they make you look kind of like a jerk. fish& karate 15:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I've seen your comments (commentary) on several Minnesota pages recently. Pray tell, are you Minnesotan, either in spirit or physical location? I wouldn't have guessed as much (Minnesotans are generaly nice zing!!!!. I mean well, but seriously, I'm curious.... Keeper ǀ 76 01:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
They don't like old farts like me on ANI, and frankly the place runs my blood pressure through the roof. I'm scared I'll lose it and either rip into the guy with the 10-pound legal threat who innocently claims it's not, or the guy who can't seem to find something with a gajillion sources and thinks if he throws COI he'll win his wikifight. I might check it tomorrow...or, I might catch a baseball game or go fishing. Have a nice night. (or day). -- Logical Premise Ergo? 05:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Er, where does the lead say these have been debunked? I don't see that at all. Also note that there's no "baiting" going on in keeping an article compliant with NPOV. JoshuaZ ( talk) 16:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your input on the "bridge controversies" topic in Sarah Palin. I hope it is not a problem that I grew up a White Sox fan. Dave Collect ( talk) 23:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Anyone can write anything on ANI. If you write on ANI "The cover of Time Magazine for January 30, 2007 was mistakenly not copyrighted by Time", it doesn't make it true. I am seeking the true status of the cover. I have written to Time. If I receive information from them, I will update WP. 903M ( talk) 00:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your interest in the article.
My concern is that it is a copyright violation and a non-free use image. I've written to Time to seek proof of renewal of copyright. If they respond, I will report the findings. I am not bothered by the image if it is a permitted image. I am bothered if it is a non-free use image and we steal it. I want Wikipedia to be scholarly and ethically use images. 903M ( talk) 00:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Where? If it is that recent ANI, it was just one anonymous editor that said he heard it was. I seek the truth. If it turns out that it is not copyrighted, then I have no objections to free use images, when appropriate. 903M ( talk) 01:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Since Ron keeps doing the same thing over and over about you retiring. [12] -- Ebyabe ( talk) 22:35, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Hiya, hope everything is good for you! Wasn't it a good game last night? Anyways, I noticed that you reverted
this post. I just wanted to give you a friendly reminder that rollback
is only for vandalism and not for reverting good faith edits. I'm not bothered personally but you should be aware that people have had it revoked for even a single reversion like that one. I' not an admin but know of some who just go around looking for incorrect use of rollback
. Take care! :-)
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Can you provide a citation for the claim you are adding.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 00:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Unless your over 40 you're not gonna get it. Anyway, is there a method we can talk privately? I have some questions for you about my recent AN/I. (They are, hopefully, self-improvment questions if that helps.) Padillah ( talk) 18:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Is
User talk:Baseball Boogies you? Just posted to Wknight's page, signed manually as "baseball bugs". I'll unblock expediently if you declare your devotion to the MN Twins oops, I mean, clear this up for me.
Keeper ǀ
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21:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm still on break and just took a quick look in, but thought you should be aware of this, since you've been looking after the situation. Thanks, Bugs. Kelly hi! 21:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I know, I'm terrible -- I was reading your extremely interesting conversation with Kelly (I have lots to say too about Apollo 11, JFK, etc. -- as you probably have figured out, I'm not a kid). This might interest you, since I noticed you said "... Palin has been hyped like there's no tomorrow. It's also a convenient distraction from the 700 billion dollar invoice that the mortgage companies are trying to send to the American public with the help of Mr. Bush." Do a little curve-fitting to those stats. It's illuminating stuff: Wikipedia page counts have an astonishing correlation to the interest level in a topic among the population; it can be quite enlightening to check different pages on that site, if you haven't done it yet. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 01:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
let's not start the fire up again, if Jossi and Kelly continue to snipe at each other, then we have an issue. Let's just redact that section and wait and see? SirFozzie ( talk) 05:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I have added a lot of images. I just need one from the infield seats of the scoreboard. If you can find anything let me know.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 08:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Why are the other teams flags visible in these photos and not the one I mentioned earlier?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 17:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
If Kelly wants to make outrageous statements, I can make relatively mild ones commenting on her behaviour. Sure, Kelly might not like it, but really I don't particularly feel terribly upset if she takes it to heart - if anything, she should! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 14:01, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Irony is an edit summary that says "Don't delete others' posts" ... when your revert deleted [14] a post by GoodDamon! (If I had a faster internet connection, I would fix it myself.) -- Kralizec! ( talk) 01:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
...for looking after my talk page. I zeroed out the drama left there to Ta bu shi blah blah or whoever, what a crock. Anyway, I am going to spend the time between now and Election Day doing things that are incontrovertibly noncontroversial...for example, I've been spending some time today locating and uploading free photos of baseball players, in your honor. ;) Best wishes - Kelly hi! 17:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, After taking into consideration the feedback from other editors regarding the Carson City image at Sarah Palin, I have created a new version with the intent of pleasing those who have contributed to the discussions. The quality of the image has been significantly improved. I would appreciate your opinion here: [ [16]]. Thanks, IP75 75.25.28.167 ( talk) 20:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
One of my all-time favorite Cubs. He was a major impact player on the Cubs of 1969 and 1970, kind of forgotten now when they talk about the Banks-Santo-Williams era. A very quiet country boy who just happened to have a knack for knocking the big bang in clutch situations from time to time. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 02:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
You think that this photo can be cropped or manipulated to use in his article? It's the only free photo of him that I can find, but I hate the way he's cut off at the edge of the picture. Kelly hi! 02:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I will wait for the response about the fee. That way, I can present the whole story and not bits of it at a time. 903M ( talk) 05:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
It's annoying when you post a reasonable comment and then someone tells you to stop "baiting" the user. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 06:25, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
You are clearly baiting that user. I'm seeing comments to a committed anti-abortion Christian like "There has been more evil, more mass murder conducted in the name of Christianity than is possible to tabulate." I can't believe you had such a massive go at me for one comment on Kelly's page and yet you are engaging in far worse behaviour! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 06:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I think common sense would indicate that the editor accidently typed in his signature twice. Entirely innocent, nobody is going to get annoyed. Sheesh! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 09:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I just noticed this user, and don't really have time to look into it properly, but since you've had some experience with his edits, I thought I'd bring it to your attention. It looks to me like a fair percentage of his recent edits are introducing errors into statistics, Ed Delahanty and Hit by pitch for example. I'd normally dig deeper and either AIV him or contact the admin who previously blocked him, if necessary, but I'm got to soon vanish for the day. If you have time, you might want to look into it more. Majorclanger ( talk) 12:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
BASEBALLS BUGS IS AN UGLY IGNORANT FOOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.166.166 ( talk) 23:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Could you please look at this thread? Thanks, ~ Troy ( talk) 21:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your assistance in getting this page up and running. Be advised I have reversed the following main page edits: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Cubs_Win_flag&diff=241671989&oldid=241668451 -- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 02:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your opinions re: Sarah Palin. You might possibly want to check out Talk:Sarah Palin as one of the issues I hoped was gone has re-arisen. And don't write off a White Sox - Cubs series yet! Dave Collect ( talk) 20:59, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
In view of your plans to possibly retire, a Cubs-White Sox World Series (or any Series involving the Cubs) would be agood way to go out -- Davey Collect ( talk) 21:15, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Note that someone is apparently seeking to either stalk me, or just annoy me. The above "user" is someone's sockpuppet, and ought to be slapped down. Thanks! Dave
Collect (
talk)
11:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
It's either User:Ron liebman, a banned user who keeps turning up using that schtick, or it's (ironically) someone imitating Liebman. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Bugs, I take a complaint to you now with this accusation by the above-mentioned user accusing me of being a sockpuppet of another user based solely on what he sees on my userpage → "This page intentionally left blank.", which is according to him similar to another user going by the name of Dave whom he suspects is giving him a hard time now.
Against the same user, it is noted at ANI that he is suspected of operating several sock accounts which I have now tagged as sock in response to his tagging of me being a sock.
Also, the accuser is noted for being disruptive and uncivil on several of his edits with comments to others. I wash my hands off this guy and shall leave the accuser now in your judgement. -- Dave1185 ( talk) 21:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
apparently not. i request an admin run an ip trace on all of the sockpuppets i accused dave of being.
ㄏㄨㄤㄉㄧ (
talk)
21:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
all 3 are the same disruptive editor. User:David873 has been blocked already, and had exactl y the same "This page intentionally left blank." on his page.
plus if you look at the edit history of the page of User:Nefbmn, he posted the EXACT SAME sockpuppetry accusation as David873. ㄏㄨㄤㄉㄧ ( talk) 21:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I am not an admin. Y'all need to take your concerns to WP:ANI. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 22:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Please do not use talk pages such as Talk:Steve Fossett for general discussion of the topic. They are for discussion related to improving the article. They are not to be used as a forum or chat room. See here for more information. Thank you. Danorton ( talk) 00:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Danorton ( talk) 00:24, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Welcome! AdjustShift ( talk) 13:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Saw your username and just HAD to look at your userpage. Looked. HAD to comment. :)
I'm a Bugs Bunny fan and a Wikipedia editor (well, copyeditor mainly), and I love stuff like this. But wait. Am I addressing you, or your sockpuppet? Or maybe your sockpuppet's sockpuppet's sockpuppet... Would it save time if I just gave up and went mad now?
Rosuav ( talk) 03:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Diskettes? Yep. Remember them, have a pile of them, and occasionally use them. 3.5" and 5.25" but not 8". I'm young though; the oldest computer I have - which is older than me - does have a hard drive. I never used the dual-floppy models. But I learned to program in BASIC, then assembly language, in 640KB minus however much DOS was using at the time, and I think it was good education. Today I write programs on 32-bit systems with upwards of a gig of RAM, but I still think in terms of coding efficiently.
Haha. The Merrie Melodies theme just came up in my MIDI playlist. How appropriate! Rosuav ( talk) 03:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
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Here's a cookie for not being an American idiot (which is quite rare in people under 30 nowadays). Green Day would be proud. -- Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 04:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
You mentioned something about letting a user go far enough so that we can really block him good. You may want to read this: WP:GIANTDICK. Its mildly entertaining and totally applicable here... -- Jayron32. talk. contribs 03:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I have one unusual observation. Ron Liebman is considered one of the most reliable and most respected researchers in the baseball community (surprisingly, perhaps) and is one of the few whose name is somewhat recognized bythe general public, along with people like Bill James, Bob McConnell, Pete Palmer, David Vincent, and Steve Hirdt - along with the deceased SABR founder Bob Davids. Yet the main thing I learned from him in his time on Wikipedia is the meaning of the term "bezzler." Unusual indeed. - Sincerely, Baseball Bugs (10/9/2008) UTC -- Mr. Baseball Bugs ( talk) 21:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
The line at the end of the cartoon: "That's what the man said, you heard what he said, he said that!" is just identified in Baseball Bugs as a popular line from a radio show. Would you happen to know which one? The line is also used in The Big Sleep (1946). Cheers, Postdlf ( talk) 03:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Since you've been around a while, I won't template you. But in this edit, did the statement you made come from a source, or is "It was also noted" referring to you noting it (which would be unsourced original research)? I looked in the sources immediately preceding and after your edit and found nothing about what you added. Thank you. Ward3001 ( talk) 16:15, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Here's another blog, from sometime last spring, where this is referenced a little more than halfway down. [17] So it's not "original research" and it's not particularly POV-pushing. You could still argue for "trivial", though. :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:32, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
If Roger Ebert pointed it out, how would that be any more noteworthy than someone in a blog?: Because Roger Ebert is a reliable source and a blog isn't. That's my last word on the matter. Ward3001 ( talk) 21:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Your original complaint was "unsourced POV". So if I cited Ebert or whoever, that would be "sourced POV".
Baseball Bugs
What's up, Doc?
22:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC): And sourced POV is perfectly acceptable in a Themes or Criticisms or Reception section of a film article. Let me repeat myself (unfortuntatey): Look at film articles that are or have been
Good articles or
Featured articles. You will see generous amounts of sourced opinions from legitimate critics (i.e., reliable sources). What you will not see (unless it has been added inappropriately, as you did) is unsourced POV or POV from a blog.
Now, I don't care to argue any further just for the sake of argument, which is what this discussion has degenerated into. I have repeatedly pointed out Wikipedia policies (which apparently you understand less than I thought you did), and you insist on coming back with inadequate retorts over and over again, requiring me to again provide you more and more detail about very clear Wikipedia policies. So if you wish to continue tendentious debates about the finer points of Wikipedia's policies, please take them up on the talk pages for
WP:RS,
WP:V,
WP:NPOV,
WP:MOSFILM, or the talk page to
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, not on my talk page. If you add another pointless statement on my talk page, or if you re-add the statement about Elliot's initials either unsourced or sourced to a blog, I will simply copy this entire discussion to
Talk: E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial and let you try to argue endlessly with the rest of the Wikipedia community and see where that gets you. Goodbye.
Ward3001 (
talk)
23:18, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
There is an E.T. in one of the Star Wars prequels. That IP address said it was Star Wars I, but I'm not totally sure that's correct. I'm thinking it was II. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 00:28, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Moving the discussion to the E.T. page is fine, provided you actually address the question instead of moving it there just so you can ignore it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 03:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I noticed the melee (?) concerning "official names" of the Yankees. The New York Times in 1909 ran articles apparently using both names in the same article. I am curious, however, as to whether the "New York Highlanders" owed their name to the Civil War regiment with the same name? Thanks. Collect ( talk) 01:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Cease and desist from adding comments about E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial to my talk page. Take up your concerns on Talk:E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial. If you continue making such comments on my talk page, I will make a report at WP:ANI. Ward3001 ( talk) 03:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
“ | As the film neared its completion, Lucas showed a rough cut to buddy Steven Spielberg, whose own directorial credits include the beloved alien-in-Chatsworth tale, E.T. The Extraterrestrial.
Spielberg and Lucas decided it might be fun to have E.T. in the Galactic Senate, so in March, just two months before the film was supposed to hit theaters, the effects guys got a call. 'So we put E.T . in one shot and Steven said, "I couldn't see it," so we added him bigger in another shot,' said visual-effects supervisor Scott Squires, winner of an Oscar for technical achievement and twice nominated for other Oscars on Dragonheart and The Mask. Want to spot the former Valley alien now that he's made it to the big time? Look lower left in the wide shots. But it may take a magnifying glass and the jog-shuttle control on your DVD months from now to get a good look. |
” |
Hope that helps. :) — Erik ( talk • contrib) - 04:30, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
How about this, man...
“ | The spontaneity of E.T .'s and Elliott Taylor's first flight through the Halloween night is as thrilling as remembered, and it makes us hungry for what Spielberg might accomplish in the flying scenes of his long-proposed version of Peter Pan. (Incidentally, Elliott's last name is mumbled only briefly in the film, but the symbolism of the initials is obvious.) | ” |
Not quite what you wanted, but probably a better connection! :) — Erik ( talk • contrib) - 04:55, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that you updated why a passed ball is not considered an error here: [19]. A couple of buddies and I have been wondering about this for a while, and would like to know if your reasoning was pulled from a source. If so, can you let us know? This will help us out a TON! Acedriven - 2008-10-14 18:29 UTC
Hey there. It was an interesting debate, actually, and not one that I was aware of, so I'll thank the IP for that, but as soon as anyone starts linking to talk pages and not project pages, I'm usually pretty sure it's a POV pusher, especially when it's an IP. -- Ged UK ( talk) 09:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) I don't mind doing it, I hate to have someone unilaterally (gee, I couldn't believe you chose that word too) deciding a policy exists in the obvious absence of one, then cite it. It borders on vandalism, because he or she knows there was no determination. 3RR is very easy to violate if one decides to fight the same battle across the entire site. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 10:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Boiling it down from that discussion, I see these users and some dates:
It's also funny that the article is from a year ago, yet this new IP address found it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 10:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone be as stupid as User:Rollosmokes pretends to be? Lantana11 ( talk) 04:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 04:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Baseball Bugs--thanks for your message. I really can't believe that one user could get me so motivated to rant, but from the first time I crossed paths with the guy I knew there was something different going on here, and that it wouldn't be pleasant. I have no idea why he had chosen to go this route, but there may be no turning back. And it is sad, because intelligence is always good to have on hand. I have not the slightest idea why the "CW" business resulted in such a meltdown; it probably would have happened sooner or later on any subject. I think many of us have some ego involved with our editing, and that's why I indeed left him some less-than-complimentary messages (and removed some of them after seeing them in the brighter light of reason). He took me completely out of my normal character. Anyway, Wiki will go on quite well...all the best and happy editing. Lantana11 ( talk) 18:38, 18 October 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 18:38, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
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Could you please take a look at this article's history and give a uninvolved opinion? The thing is that there is this kid removing a chunk of the lead, I restored it twice but he has already thrown the "hey don't be an asshole" line at me, so I'm fairly sure that he's ready for an edit war if necessary. The kid is a Yankees fan, so you can see why his attitude doesn't surprise me at all ;-) - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:46, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
=={Retirement?}== Good luck if you go ahead with your planned retirement. -- Couilaud ( talk) 23:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. By the way, he guessed wrong - my name is not Mike ! -- No Guru ( talk) 16:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
The Red Sox are currently in negotiations with the city of Fort Myers for a new spring facility. It is the latest, most current news on the team, and I can't understand why you would remove that.-- Johnny Spasm ( talk) 10:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
The Boston Red Sox entry was over 100,000 bytes before I began editing it. Check the article's history if you don't believe me. I shortened it to the 93,000 byte range by removing redundancy and by making the facts more concise. I think the article is better for my work, and I'm a METS FAN.
There is no question that 2 years from now "The Sarasota Curse" should not be part of the Red Sox's Wikipedia entry. For right now, it is the current news on the team.-- Johnny Spasm ( talk) 10:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Stop vandalizing or you will be blocked. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I am trying to get a handle on what happened with 99.207.98.92 ( talk · contribs · block log). Since the IP's last edit was at 13:21, it appears that they listened to their 13:24 warning and stopped vandalizing Wikipedia. However I am not sure why you then issued another warning at 13:25, then reported the now inactive IP to AIV at 13:26. Thank you for your time, Kralizec! ( talk) 18:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Please have a look at WP:UAA#User-reported when you have a moment. Ioeth ( talk contribs friendly) 19:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I am not a reactionary Republican or a bigot! I am voting or Barack Obama. (originally posted on October 27, 2008) In fact, I am a moderate progressive Democrat. With the World Series now over, I will revisit my proposed retirement plans after the Presidential Election. Sincerely, Baseball Bugs. -- The Baseball Bugs ( talk) 20:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I've semi-protected your talk page since Ron Liebman keeps coming here with various sockpuppets claiming that you're going to retire. The guy just doesn't quit, does he?
By the way, you should think about becoming an admin some day. I think you're already involved enough at WP:AN/I and other admin-ish areas that you could do it well. -- Elkman (Elkspeak) 20:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
You have previously contributed to the debate on the article, and may like to express your views on the deletion of this article here. Ohconfucius ( talk) 02:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
I thought you might have been online at the time, but I guess I should have posted a permanent link so you could see what I was talking about. This is what I wanted you to see so we could get your opinion, but it's been taken care of since. Cheers! Ioeth ( talk contribs friendly) 13:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
[20] Of course it's not a sock, b/c he says it isn't. *lol*
The Red sox signed a new deal with Fort Myers today, I added that to their Wikipedia entry and removed the Sarasota Curse as I planned to do all along.-- Johnny Spasm ( talk) 22:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Noted your clarifying restoration of the name "Hiawatha" to the list of characters voiced by Mel Blanc. Thanks. IIRC, that was the one that ended with the Native American saying he was the last Mohican and Bugs pointing out a stork carrying a baby that looks like Hi, who faints, then sees a huge flock of the birds, each carrying an infant version of Bugs, and he faints. That "Indian" was Mel? Wow! -- Ted Watson ( talk) 20:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Today is the day that defines history. Who you're for, by the way? (I promise I'm not trying to start a debate). -- Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 19:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I have been having problems with my Vandalism Warning scripts. Acroterion said you and him had a very similar conversation about that a couple days ago. He said you found a work-around to the problem, would you mind adding that work-around to my vandalism warning scripts? I would greatly appericate it. - NeutralHomer • Talk • November 6, 2008 @ 03:11
[21] - Um... I'm speechless. Richard Cavell ( talk) 13:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
...courtesy of a newly established editor that is unable to edit your semi-protected page. User talk:Baseball Bugs/hello. Just thought I'd give you the heads-up. Cheers! ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez Get to know me! / Talk to me!←at≈:→ 22:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
on the List of United States Presidential names you put in amazon as a source.. amazon is not a reliable source.. it's not even really a source.. and also, don't forget to put references in between <ref></ref> tags. - - ' The Spook ( TALK) ( Share the Love with Barnstars) 23:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
... for your willingness to engage in thoughtful dialogue! :) Wiki-Smile on you, EagleScout18 ( talk) 01:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
I apologize if I made you uncomfortable with the question regarding your political views. It was never my intention to make you feel that way, I was just purely curious as to who you were supporting, I wasn't trying to start something or put you in a bad position. I hope you can accept my sincerest apologies. -- Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 04:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Bugs. Though I agree with the presumptive Presiden-elect & presumptive vice president-elect crowds; It ain't a dispute worth continuing. Afterall, one could argue that the articles United States presidential election, 1804 to United States presidential election, 2008, should be renamed United States presidential and vice presidential elections, as there's elections for both offices occuring simultaneously. GoodDay ( talk) 19:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Why is he obsessed with you? If he doesn't like you, he can just do the simple task of avoiding you, which is quite easy since Wikipedia is a pretty big place. -- Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 22:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes) "The top text line should be bold and contain the full (official) name of the item. This does not need to match the article's Wikipedia title.".
Given that all former U.S. Presidents have their full name presented (i.e Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan etc). How is the removal of this standard here acceptable? Glen Twenty ( talk) 22:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
You have a pretty quick trigger, go there and restore the topic. Universalsuffrage ( talk) 01:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I haven’t seen the ad indeed, but I'm refereeing to the interview in which Powell endorsed Obama.
‘There’s gonna be a crisis come along on the 21st or 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now’. Some call it cryptic. Universalsuffrage ( talk) 04:06, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Ah come on, Bugs. I could understand having those Templates there, if they were called Presidents of the United States & the President-elect, Vice Presidents of the United States & the Vice President-elect. But that not what the Templates are called. GoodDay ( talk) 02:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Bugs. I'm glad you pointed out numbering terms at List of Presidents of the United States article. It made me check the VP counterpart page & wow, the date corrections I had to make there. GoodDay ( talk) 00:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm in a dispute at that article, concerning the date of the US Presidential Inauguration. GoodDay ( talk) 19:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, this one make me laugh a little :-D Digital Ninja 04:19, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I am way too tired to debate with Everyme right now and I am getting extremely tired of that user's high handed debating style. (I.E. I know the rules way better then you so shut up and stay in your corner!) So I am going to be quiet before I say something stupid in that debate. I've said my piece and even tried a compromise version which Everyme shot down as a "Strawman" argument and that I should stop distracting the discussion. (On a side note I am getting really exhausted of that user bandying around all the policies like we don't know them!) You know where I stand and what I am worried around. Thanks for letting me vent on your talk page! Brothejr ( talk) 15:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I understand that you have a humorously short (and mildly gruff) way of commenting on talk pages. I often find it funny. However, sometimes your comments can be counterproductive and foster an environment where disagreements are more likely to lead to flame wars and less likely to come to compromise. I understand this because I, too, am sometimes guilty of making sarcastic or humorous comments on these boards. I would just ask that you please try and tone it down a little and not follow one or two editors arounds making jokes at their expense and calling them "trolls" or other insulting remarks.
I am making this comment here so that it is private, and just between us. Feel free to delete it after acknowledging it in a response on my talk page. LedRush ( talk) 19:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Landon1980 ( talk) 04:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
"Get your pies for the great pie fight!" Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 05:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Sorry you've been driven away from Obama Bugs. Hopefully you'll get a few days break and then consider stopping back in. I'm this close my self, lest we let it get taken over by random kooks. Grsz 11 →Review! 05:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
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I know it seems like they are coming out of the woodwork sometimes and with my last post I seemed like I was really close to being burned out. But with some sleep, a good plate of food, some good music, and watching recent events unfold on Wikipedia while I was sleeping have made me a lot happier. Hopefully after a while you'll feel/be better and less burned out! :) Brothejr ( talk) 05:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Because the point of Wikipedia is to say to readers "here is the information, here is the source," not "go find the source yourself." Furthermore, the Adlai Stevenson article is very long and it could be a pain to find the reference there (searching the page for "Apostle Paul" gets it, searching the page for "Spoonerism" does not). It's really not that difficult to copy and paste a reference. — Politizer talk/ contribs 15:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I must have misunderstood you on the talk page. I thought you meant screwing over the voters, not the votes themselves. Bush liked around 500 thousand votes of winning the popular vote, but he still won the election. I don't know a whole lot about how it works, but when they meet on the 15 can't they vote for whoever they want? I think some states are required by law to go with the popular vote, but not very many of them. I agree that it is extremely unlikely, but it could happen, "could" being the operative word. I saw someone on the news the other night talking about the chances of this happening, and the experts say that Mccain would be likely to win popular vote yet still lose via electoral votes, not Obama. Most of them agreed there was a 10-15% chance of Mccain having an electoral victory. The very thought of it makes me nervous, surely this won't happen. Can you imagine the chaos, protests, etc. that would take place if it did happen? Landon1980 ( talk) 20:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Well now -- this certainly doesn't belong on the Obama page, but I couldn't resist a rejoinder: We Americans are often quite amused at the way the Brits mangle the Spanish language, e.g. Nicaragua (I suppose you know the actual pronunciation, to which the American "Nick-uh-rah-gwuh" is fairly close, then we have the Brits: "Nick-uh-rag-gyew-uh"(rag as in rag-doll, with southern Brit. accent). "Don Juan" in Americanese is "dahn-wahn" or "dahn-hwahn", but the British: "don-djew-uhn". or "herb", when we (English speakers) borrowed it from French, of course it had no "h" pronounced, and we continue the tradition here in the US, but the Brits have decided that old "h" MUST be pronounced. By the way, this "eye-rack" stuff": that's only a portion, probably a minority, from more "rural" backgrounds, but the strange British pronunciations I mention above are, as far as I know, recognised as standard in the UK. oh, I forgot "junta", Am: "hoon-tuh", Brit: "djunn-tuh" (dj is just my overly-clear way of describing the normal English j, as in Jack, i.e. not like French or German. Cheers. Jakob37 ( talk) 04:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC) p.s. (I can't resist it!) "towards" has been traditionally (for centuries) been pronounced as "tords", and still is in the US, but the Brits's "too-wards" sounds like a little baby just starting to figure out the language syllable by syllable. Sorry to be so mean---as a consolation, let me say that the way I have heard English pronounced by educated speakers in the Outer Hebrides is the most beautiful accent of all. Jakob37 ( talk) 04:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, do you think the National Post is so biased and downmarket that no article form them is RS? Mattnad ( talk) 15:06, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does it seem like you love to inject your liberal trash into these 2 articles then revert anything that is remotley RW? Seems like your pushing a non NPOV to me. 71.57.146.112 ( talk) 05:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be at RFCU, not AIV? I don't know the user, is it blatant from their edits? — neuro (talk) 20:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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For your amusement, Bugs, I point out to you that some editors feel as if the Rasputin of Wikipedia, User: Rollosmokes, has in recent days days tried a new tack in attempting to make his presence known and tweak article WPIX, among others. (I figured all concerned had pissed on his set fires long ago.) He quite possibly has resorted to some more less-than masterly sockuppetry. I only casually looked at a portion of the correspondence, so I don't know what's up, but if you've no more important claims on your time you might want to take a look. Damn me for a fool, but I really am tempted to send R's talk page (it is still active) a message conveying my unvarnished opinion of him...but better not. Lantana11 ( talk) 04:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 04:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Baseball Bugs. I see you rephrased your post on NWA.Rep's election questions page to be formally a question to him, though in practice a set of angrily-phrased accusations. (For instance: all editors are supposed to be welcome to "stick their noses into" any Wikipedia page, so that's a meaninglessly mean way of putting it.) I think it's pretty immoral to post a "question" like that to a candidate who you know isn't allowed to reply to it. I'm not going to do anything about it; I want to see first how my proposal for unblocking him for the purpose of posting on election pages only pans out. (Right at the bottom of the ANI thread, in case you want to comment.) But I think you should have a chat with your conscience. Bishonen | talk 19:15, 22 November 2008 (UTC).
You mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball#Reggie Sanders that NWA.Rep had lost his rollback privileges, so I thought I'd ask you--exactly how does someone go about getting them? I just found myself undoing five vandalism edits at Major League Baseball Most Valuable Player Award and I figure there has to be a better way. Rklear ( talk) 00:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
If you look at the Popeye the Sailor (Warner DVD series) article and the individual volumes, Furious Freddy has nominated the Warner DVD series for deletion and deleted the background sections of the individual volumes. Can you check it out? Steelbeard1 ( talk) 02:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
You may want to add your input in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Popeye the Sailor (Warner DVD series) page. Steelbeard1 ( talk) 14:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Go here. Viriditas ( talk) 00:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
The best-sized version would be one that is as small as possible but where the critical elements, including the fine print, are legible. Try one maybe 10-20% bigger, if that's no legible, increase it another 10-20%. You might also try less jpeg compression to see if that helps, or use GIF or PNG format. If by some miracle you can get one smaller that is completely legible, that would be even better. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 06:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
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It is unfortunate and disappointing that rather than have a discussion on the topic, it resorts to this instead of a finding of facts. Hopefully our next edits can be productive rather than back and forth.
Oh and by the way, that other guy you quoted has a history of editing political articles on the other side of this debate. I'm pretty sure my contributions have been limited to areas of philosophy and of biographies of non-politicians. Downzero ( talk) 11:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand your question. My contributions thus far look like motorcycles and freemasonry--not all that political now is it? Downzero ( talk) 11:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I only signed into my (ancient) account, to try to help see to it that the problem of HIS extremely distasteful edits was resolved (replacing 'Barack Obama' with 'N*gger Faggot' throughout Obama's article). Young children have most likely seen what he did - it made me feel a little aggrieved. Themusician31 ( talk · contribs) 00:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
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Was Commons:Image:Siena with Torre del Mangia.jpg the one you were thinking of? I've got some closer views to upload soon. — Wknight94 ( talk) 12:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I think I'm a transient, though I may become a squatter and in time, perhaps even a homesteader (on Wikipedia not your talk page). I'm a bit of a newbie, just registered today. I (like just about everyone else in the free world) have been utilizing the great internet encyclopedia for years, but now I feel the need to contribute. Any helpful suggestions? Unhelpful suggestions shall be considered as well, though they may require the use of mental floss. Glenda 69 ( talk) 01:42, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello. The issue here is long division, not what is or is not considered official. If you take 11.434 at-bats and divide it by 4189, it comes to .36636, which rounds to .366 (not .367). Just for the record (though not relevant here), Pete Palmer's ESPN Baseball Encyclopedia is considered by most historians as the more "official source." But the issue in this edit is long division, Sir. (Get out your calculator!) -- Jose cartagena ( talk) 18:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Don't get too worked up with that IP editor. They are just pushing the same exact conspiracy theory as before. They will get bored when they don't get their way and move on. Brothejr ( talk) 09:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Bugsy! I know it's been a long time since we last communicated and that my activity around here has been pathetically low for the last several months, but I still thought I'd drop by and wish you a Happy Thanksgiving Day!!! The only reason I can give for my absence on the wiki is that of an extremely busy schedule involving school, extracurricular activities, and my mother's health, as well as mine.
I just realised that it's been a little over a year since I first officially became a Wikipedian. Wow! How time flies!!! :) Y'know, you yourself were the first one to welcome me onto the site, and for that, I am truly grateful; your frequent collaboration is also very much appreciated.
Once again, I hope you enjoy yourself this holiday season! Sincerely, — Cinemaniac ( talk • contribs) 15:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Despite the verdict that the Popeye the Sailor (Warner DVD series) article should be kept, FuriousFreddy went ahead and created the redirect. I've reverted that change and informed the administrator who closed the poll in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Popeye the Sailor (Warner DVD series). Steelbeard1 ( talk) 11:56, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Please send me a listing of any vandals, sockpuppeteers, or other new problem editors you may have spotted lately, so that I can incorporate them into my next report for Georgewilliamherbert. Also, check in with Ebyabe regarding this matter. Hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving. -- Wknite94 ( talk) 19:27, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi BBugs, I know you aren't a fan of Limbaugh, but do you need to bring him into discussions about others? The logic that Limbaugh hasn't done something, so there isn't anything to it is sort of weird. Anyways, carry on :) -- Tom 21:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
The following are the contents of a .DOC file that I have copied and pasted and then uploaded to your specific talk page. The reason for this is not to cause ‘disruption,’ or to perpetuate an ‘urban myth’ or ‘urban legend,’ but rather to set the record straight.
The Constitution of the United States of America Article I, Section II states:
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”
Source: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html
We know he has gone by the names of Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, and Barry Dunham.
Source: http://www.wnd.com/images/ObamaIndonesia.jpg
The image referenced lists Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian Citizen who was born in Honolulu Hawaii on 4-AUG-1961. His religion is listed as Muslim. The AP has confirmed that is a genuine photo.
But there is a problem with that:
Source: http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/misc2008/ChicagoTribune-ObamaLtr-Nov-2008.pdf
“You have posted on the Internet an unsigned, forged and thoroughly discredited, computer-generated birth form created in 2007, a form that lacks vital information found on any original, hand signed Certificate of Live Birth, such as hospital address, signature of attending physician and age of mother.”
“ • Hawaii Dept of Health will not confirm your assertion that you were born in Hawaii. • Legal affidavits state you were born in Kenya. • Your grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended your birth in Kenya. • U.S. Law in effect in 1961 denied U.S. citizenship to any child born in Kenya if the father was Kenyan and the mother was not yet 19 years of age. • In 1965, your mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and you had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen.
The most important two points are the last two. According to United States law in 1961, US Citizenship was denied to any child born in Kenya if the father was Kenyan and the mother was not yet 19.
And, in 1965 his mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or US Citizenship she (and he) had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian Citizen.
These are distruptions? These are ‘urban myths?’ These are facts.
However, so as not to be “disruptive,” I have posted these to your talk pages.
Happy Trails! -- Dr. Entropy ( talk) 03:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the warning about my rhetorical usage. It may have helped had I read guidelines. Gotta read those guidelines. And for the record that post of mine you replied to was sarcasm. -- DemocraplypseNow ( talk) 19:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate your comments, Baseball Bugs, but I'm very interested in the 'why' right now. Instead of sarcastic replies or calling names or something else, I'm very interested in 'why.' I've submitted the facts of the case and you replied that it belongs in the sewer.
Whether you or I or anybody else agrees with them, those are the facts. From a legal standpoint, I'll agree it has a very slim chance of succeeding, which raises its own hornet's nest of issues. But those are the facts of the case.
In my IRL profession I have to deal with facts. Not innuendo, not suspicions, not opinions, not half-baked ideas that have substance only in a delusional mind, but with facts. If I were to go to my CO with an opinion I'd get (and have before) "My opinion doesn't matter. And neither does yours. Now since your opinion differs, I suggest you put it where nobody'll ever find it."
That applies here, I believe. Wikipedia is intended to be an encyclopedia, not a collection of documents written with a specific person's (or group of people's) opinions being expressed.
Above we must remain neutral. Period. Any slant to either side seriously jeopardises our stated goal, our mission, and above all our credibility.
Answering with facts and having a discussion on the facts in a calm, reasonable method is acceptable and is to be encouraged.
Belittling others is not.
Going forward, I do find myself in agreement with Eaglescout18. Address the issues, not the people. Thank you. :)
Happy Trails! -- Dr. Entropy ( talk) 23:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Do you generally have to put up with so much crap on your talkpage? it would drive nuts. -- Cameron Scott ( talk) 23:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello Baseball Bugs. Please see my comments in the general comments section of that RFA, as it pertains to your neutral vote. Thank you. -- Deskana (talk) 08:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bugs,
Political cranks are political cranks but maybe take it easy with the more animated namecalling against the far right. While there's nothing too unWikipedian about expressing what I'd call fairly left-wing (or certainly anti-right) views to shoot down efforts at swaying from NPOV to CPOV, it makes it harder for the people you're addressing to see that the version of the article that you're advocating doesn't contain the "Rush Slimeball"-type remarks you use as counter-argument. Particularly with Rush, it's slipping from sounding like counter-argumentative humour to irrational trivialising of the right wing community.
Your work on these political articles is really valued, but I thought I ought to point out this outsider's view of the way things are going so you might become a little less troll-o-magnetic. Cheers! Bigbluefish ( talk) 17:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd actually prefer you address the issues, rather than me personally, going forward. Thanks in advance. EagleScout18 ( talk) 21:54, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi. This your friend Mike (No Guru). You recently asked me for advice regarding your contemplated retirement. I recommend that you first participate in a relaxation technique, such as meditation or yoga. I would then advise you to discuss the matter with your wife (or your mistress), your kids, your best friend, and your pastor. By then, you should have a good idea where you stand. Do not discuss the matter with your adversaries, and do not waste your money on paid therapists, such as psychiatrists or psychologists. I hope this helps. Cordially yours, Mike (No Guru) --Mike (No Guru) (talk) 18:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Note: was originally posted on October 25, and was deleted by some wiseguy. This was restored on December 4, 2008. -- No Guru (UTC) ( talk) 23:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
The IP address pretty much had it right. Go to Google and enter "bugs bunny" coin 1987, and you'll see one for sale on eBay, for example. However, I would say it's just a souvenir of some kind, so I don't see where it warrants special mention in the article, as there have been countless Bugs icons through the years (and I should know, Doc). Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I am amazed at your incredible stalking ability. You should win a medal for that. There is no need to hold permanent, unnecessary grudge to a one-time content dispute. Please stay off my userspace in the future. Just some friendly advice.-- NWA.Rep ( talk) 07:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Go ahead. Investigate me. I couldn't care less. I know you really have an interesting life. I'm outta here anyway.-- NWA.Rep ( talk) 07:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Naw son. Gwen Gale got the record taken care of if he/she hadnt withdraw.-- NWA.Rep ( talk) 11:11, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I was aware of his attempts to hide the comments of others. I have been watching his talk page for a little while and know to review the history before every thinking about responding. I didn't bring it up because I don't want him to take that red herring and run with it ("oh, I was just trying to do this", "those editors are out to get me", etc.). I'm going out on a limb and hoping that he is actually remotely serious about helping out, not just a bull-headed POV warrior. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 05:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The NASL Comets played its 1975 home matches on the campus of Towson State University (now Towson University) because Memorial Stadium was too big for the crowds the team was drawing. The source of this information was the article titled "Outdoor Soccer Lost Three Teams In Baltimore," written by The Baltimore Sun's Mike Klingaman for the December/January, 1986 issue of Soccer Digest. The Ink Daddy! ( talk) 07:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I have no dispute. He has decided to make the issue about me, rather than about the articles in question. Frankly, I want nothing to do with the fellow, and only wish for him to stick to the matter at hand. Cheers! --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 19:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
He's off harassing people again... [23]... I'm going to block him. -- Esanchez( Talk 2 me or Sign here) 21:27, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bugs, just wanted to say that I *loved* the section header. [25] ;) -- El on ka 22:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Greetings Bugs,
I see you're quite the busy bee at ANI, and the ruthless Bugsy tactics look, well, pretty close to officious when it comes to the perceived errors and sins of other editors (not least the hapless ES18, against whom you campaigned vigorously and, it must be said, effectively, from a Bugsy point of view at any rate). If you don't mind my asking, what gives? You're obviously aching to join the sysops, so why don't you? I just don't get it. Pray enlighten! But no problem if you don't want to, or you just can't. And while I'm being a shameless nosy parker, why the semi-protection of your talk? Thank you. — Writegeist ( talk) 05:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure how changing the category from Category:American tax evaders to Category:American Tax Evaders resolves the BLP issue that you're identifying in this edit: [26] -- Bobblehead (rants) 18:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
arcteogry:tax edavers. You game for it? -- Rodhull andemu 01:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
He's back! --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 03:45, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi BB, wanted to drop a line that [27] is probably not the best way to address another contributor. Do consider this in the future. MBisanz talk 15:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Took a peek at that article. Wowsers, there's actually editors out there, who are taking the birth certificate thing serious. GoodDay ( talk) 21:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I saw that you reverted my edit regarding the president elect note. As an original party to the compromise, you'll remember how long we fought over this and how difficult it was to make all parties happy. At the end of the day we agree that it would be a footnote in the lead that would direct people to an explanation. The way it is now you'd never know that there is an explanatory footnote (and not a normal one). I understand why the footnote is no longer in the lead, but the idea is to inform people (as you yourself argued in the discussions). People can read the footnote and then look into the issue more if they want, or just see the sentence and understand all they need to about the issue. The purpose of the note is frustrated if the article is left as it is (as is the compromise we reached after many hours). I don't want to get in an edit war, and I certainly don't want another 10 pages of flaming and fighting, especially as we came to a compromise that has almost no effect on the article.
To me, this is also a problem of the integrity of process. We meet and discuss and fight and compromise for days, and finally agree to do something. Whether or not we agreed to have the NB note or not, that's what happened right after the compromise and that's what stayed there. Why do we even spend all our time making these compromises if we're not going to keep them until a new discussion reaches the consensus that we shouldn't? I just took a 17 day Wiki-break, but the lack of integrity and willingness to work together is so frustrating that I am still depressed by it (this is not a reference to you, but to the fighting in general). Perhaps I need more time away...
Please tell me what I will be blocked for? All I did was supply a link to a list of reliable sources and ask were in the article a criticism section should go. You can not argue that the sources are unreliable, this has already been decided elsewhere. Fru23 ( talk) 02:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I have been very delinquent, but please accept this:
This user helped promote Cubs Win Flag to good article status. |
-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 04:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey-Hey!!! Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I had noticed the silence, and was, to paraphrase Depeche Mode, enjoying it. But, yes, I assume it will not last. Cheers! --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 20:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Wow that was an unexpected result. To think all I wanted was a 30 day topic ban or so. It is interesting how he imploded so quickly. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 17:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello Baseball Bugs. Although we have not communicated before I have been following this drama over the last few days. I thought that I would make you aware of this post to Wknight94's talk page [28] since it looks like it may be connected. I am sure that Wknight will let you know about it but I did not know how long that might take. Of course it might not be connected - in which case - I hope that you aren't retiring since many of you post at AN and ANI make me smile :-) Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 22:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of potentially being "over the top," can you take a look at this article, and my comments on the talk page, and tell me if you thing I went too far? I would appreciate it. --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 21:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I think you're right, I will take it to the project, thanks. SixFourThree ( talk) 17:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree
You might be amused to know that I was once a Conservapedia editor. In my one edit, I responded to a question about whether Andy was really a lawyer, saying, "Why, yes. And Obama was his boss at the Harvard Law Review." The edit vanished immediately, and I was blocked for five years. PhGustaf ( talk) 05:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Those people gotta be major headaches for the Defence team. GoodDay ( talk) 00:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
WP:PLAXICO -- Smashville talk 00:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Sure, I can take a look, he just happened to get an article that I was watching. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 18:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
please see my revision on the talkpage. I apologize if the antecentednt for "they" was. I was refernig to other editors. Now if you have been in church more often than I, I will apologize forthwith. I refer to your edit on Orange Mike's page. Die4Dixie ( talk) 23:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
You have been named in an incident at ANI Die4Dixie ( talk) 01:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello from your fellow user in California. I wish you all the best, and since I see baseball is an important subject for you I shall share with you that I am a near life-long Los Angeles Dodger fan...I still remember the first time, many years ago, when I walked through the concourse at Chavez Ravine and saw my heroes on the green diamond backdropped by mountains and pastel-blue walls. Best wishes and by all means continued principled editing. Lantana11 ( talk) 04:43, 20 December 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 04:43, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Lantana11 ( talk) 06:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)Lantana11 Lantana11 ( talk) 06:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for taking part in the ANI regarding me. I know I may seem like a vandal, but my moves were honestly made in good faith. For a summary of my beliefs on the matter, please read WP:FBNC and tell me what you think of it. Tavix (talk) 21:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas! | ||
Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho (talk) 00:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC) | Baseball Bugs, here's hoping you're having a wonderful
Your recent meaningful participation in an ANI on sports-figure article disambiguation suggests that you may be interested in participating one way or another in the development and/or discussion of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople), a draft proposal to clarify Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) as applied to sports. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ cont] ‹(-¿-)› 04:15, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello Baseball Bugs! I just wanted to wish you and your family a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Have a great day and a wonderful New Year, from The Bald One White cat 11:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
<font=2> HHoyC (Happy Holiday of Your Choice)! Ebyabe ( talk) 16:58, 25 December 2008 (UTC) |
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It seems that a couple of editors have changed the religion part on the Obama page without any attempt at discussion. Please look at it and perhaps encourage them to revert and come to the talk page. Die4Dixie ( talk) 19:48, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Bugs! Haven't been around much lately, and I forgot to stop by here yesterday - but the very best wishes for the holiday season to you and yours. I've always admired your neutrality and political insight, and I have to say you're my very favorite Barack Obama supporter in the whole wide world...from one of the 48 to one of the 52, I'm looking forward to sparring with you (and agreeing with you whenever it's justified) over the next four years. Anyway, God bless you and keep you, my friend. Kelly hi! 20:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Again, just because your delicate sensibilities were disrupted by a general statement directed at no one in particular does not mean that it is disruptive to the project. The needless drama-mongering and strong-arming is what proved to be disruptive to the project. Read up on policies, guides and other related pages before further involving yourself into situations; also ensure that arguments are sound before latching onto them, else you do no one any favors. لenna vecia 21:14, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Bugs, you're my friend - I've been watching Joe the Plumber for a while without getting involved. Can you explain the occupation-mania at that article? Why is there such hysteria about whether he is really a plumber based on differing interpretations of licensing requirements? Does it really matter? Barring his recent book-writing gig, if he's not a plumber, what is he? A laborer? I admit I find this whole thing sociologically fascinating. The whole "not a plumber because his papers are not in order" seems unAmerican and I don't think I've seen it's like before outside of the legal and medical professions. I can understand the root sentiment (I'm military, and we refuse to call any old gun-toter a "soldier") but this instance is the first case I've seen the standard applied to blue-collar occupations. Kelly hi! 22:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey Bugs, could you take a look here and give an input on the discussion for this FLC? I think we need some neutral parties. We're trying to decide whether it's important to show managers elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame as players as Hall of Famers in managers lists. I know, confusing, but let me know if you can help out. Thanks! KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 22:40, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
I noticed in your edit summary at Mark Teixeria that you said to stop reverting verifiable information, well I know I can speak for myself, I was reverting vandalism from an IP, that kept saying he had signed with the Orioles, so that's why that info probably got removed, cause I know I didn't intentionally remove it. Thanks.-- Iamawesome 800 16:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Guess I was wrong. Die4Dixie ( talk) 07:50, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
If you want to take up a matter with me, please do so either here, or at my talk page. The current ANI is about a different situation than the football one. That is past us and I already said that I wasn't going to do it again. Also, I would like to know how I lie? I wasn't aware of lying. Tavix (talk) 22:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
What would you do if an editor went to a userspace page for someone else' adoption and then warned the editor about comments made there? Isn't think some type of wikistalking? Padillah ( talk) 23:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
That was an awesome quote at Talk:John McCain presidential campaign, 2008 - made me laugh out loud. As a matter of fact, it was so awesome it was like awesome on a stick, with awesome sauce on it. :) Kelly hi! 01:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
We never had fiat money before FDR either :). Die4Dixie ( talk) 06:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Trust me, I'm not sure even Don McLean knows the meaning of everything in "American Pie" -- and if he does, he's not telling. The experts are still debating it *grin*.
As for this song, the lyrics have been up since the creation of the article five months ago. It's nice to have them there so that we can plot out the links, so hopefully Mr. Cashman won't mind. - Dewelar ( talk) 06:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
No, no, no. I did not mean that. i meant that the creation of the spurious username for the purpose of making a fake RfA nom was vandalism, not your perfectly correct report of it. Please accept my heartfelt apologies for not making that clearer. -- Anthony.bradbury "talk" 20:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)