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This is the talk/discussion page for: Template:Months.
This message is currently used on the pages for the 12 months and on 366 day pages (see Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Months ). The birthstones are more suitable for the month pages (where there are already listed individually) than for the day pages, thus I removed them from this message. -- User:Docu [ 20 May 2004 ]
Jan 32 is linked to the doomsday algo. I dont get it. Is that vandalism or is Jan 32 not supposed to be there? Brusegadi 06:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
How about we put parenthesis around the "unusual" dates, like January 0, February 30 etc? Not Feb 29 though. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 18:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
11-Jan-2008: During 2004 and 2005 (and most of 2006), the template really was, true to the name, links only to 12 months, displayed as a one-row table. On 24 October 2006, the " Template:Months" became months+days, as 12+366 = 378 links. Adding the options "v-d-e" (plus " January 0"/etc.) later generated a total of 386 wikilinks. - Wikid77 ( talk) 08:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
11-Jan-2008: During 2007, large navigation-boxes were added to more than 50 thousand articles, where each navbox propagated wikilinks to each article, generating millions of extra links in the Wikipedia page-link database(s). The resulting "overlink crisis" (or megalink crisis) has increased total wikilinks, within a few months, by a factor of more than 20. As a small example, the Template:Months started as 12 month-name links in 2004, but grew after October 2006, to have 386 wikilinks, more than 32x times the original count. By Jan. 2008, Template:Months had been linked into 418 pages, generating:
Those 161,348 links are stored (after the servers are updated) into the Wikipedia page-link database(s) to allow quick display (such as for "What links here"). There are ways to easily avoid overlinks, as discussed below. - Wikid77 ( talk) 09:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
11-Jan-2008: Propagating links with navboxes can be avoided by using a navbox-reference to connect the live navbox-links only as a 2nd-article navbox, or a spawned navbox as a menu in a 2nd window of the browser. Although websites have the option to automatically spawn a new menu window, Wikipedia articles could simply rely on right-clicking a navbox reference to spawn that navbox into a 2nd browser window. By spawning navboxes, those links occur only on the navbox menu page. For Template:Months, by changing the template to spawn a days-navbox, the wikilinks could be reduced to about 10 (rather than 386), to generate about 4180 total links, rather than the current 161,348 propagated links. The net improvement would be 157,000 fewer links for the Wikipedia page-link database(s). Plus, users would see navboxes as small, centralized menu windows, not a section scrolled down at the bottom of various article pages. - Wikid77 ( talk) 09:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Why was this template's main code split into {{ MonthsSource}} in October 2006? Can they be merged back together, so that only one template needs to be watchlisted, and so that only one template needs to be transcluded to each instance?
Should this template be renamed, now that it encompasses days? To something like {{ Monthsanddays}}, perhaps? (As a list of just the months, {{ Month header}} is currently in use on the 12 pages.) -- Quiddity ( talk) 20:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that this template should list only standard dates (i.e. not February 31, etc.). What is the general feeling on this? -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 18:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Gregorian removed, and a new test made. As before, improve or revert if problematic. Ideas welcome. Thanks :) -- Quiddity 06:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
While I understand the point of this template, it makes things difficult if I click " What links Here", as it now brings up at least 365 links of dates. Could the use of this template be voted on for its usefulness or not?? I don't think it helps users who want to see which pages are related to this to see 365 useless pages... Jez ☎ ✉ ✍ 19:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I've converted the template to navbox, which is what has been done with almost every other footer template. The version before Quiddity's had very little white space and I've reverted to that. Navbox allows a standard look all across Wikipedia, it is simpler, and most importantly, it is allowed to collapse. Epson291 ( talk) 03:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I would like to add a special note about the parentheses around February 29. They make it take up more space, not less, meaning that it can suggest that that day is superior, not inferior, to other days. (Specifically, "(29)" is a total of 4 characters; the (, the digits 2 and 9, and the ). On the other hand, "29" is just 2 characters, the digits 2 and 9. Georgia guy ( talk) 15:02, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
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The purpose of this template is to provide navigation to the full set of month-day articles. It's not there to provide links to basic calendar terms such as 'month', 'day', year', or the 12 month names. I suggest that all these should be delinked, just leaving the month-day links. Colonies Chris ( talk) 13:36, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
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Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Jared Preston ( talk) 12:39, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
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The part showing the "Today" shows the incorrect date (shows January 7, 2020 when it is January 14, 2020) 64.158.197.100 ( talk) 20:21, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Days of the year | ||||
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This is the talk/discussion page for: Template:Months.
This message is currently used on the pages for the 12 months and on 366 day pages (see Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Months ). The birthstones are more suitable for the month pages (where there are already listed individually) than for the day pages, thus I removed them from this message. -- User:Docu [ 20 May 2004 ]
Jan 32 is linked to the doomsday algo. I dont get it. Is that vandalism or is Jan 32 not supposed to be there? Brusegadi 06:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
How about we put parenthesis around the "unusual" dates, like January 0, February 30 etc? Not Feb 29 though. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 18:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
11-Jan-2008: During 2004 and 2005 (and most of 2006), the template really was, true to the name, links only to 12 months, displayed as a one-row table. On 24 October 2006, the " Template:Months" became months+days, as 12+366 = 378 links. Adding the options "v-d-e" (plus " January 0"/etc.) later generated a total of 386 wikilinks. - Wikid77 ( talk) 08:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
11-Jan-2008: During 2007, large navigation-boxes were added to more than 50 thousand articles, where each navbox propagated wikilinks to each article, generating millions of extra links in the Wikipedia page-link database(s). The resulting "overlink crisis" (or megalink crisis) has increased total wikilinks, within a few months, by a factor of more than 20. As a small example, the Template:Months started as 12 month-name links in 2004, but grew after October 2006, to have 386 wikilinks, more than 32x times the original count. By Jan. 2008, Template:Months had been linked into 418 pages, generating:
Those 161,348 links are stored (after the servers are updated) into the Wikipedia page-link database(s) to allow quick display (such as for "What links here"). There are ways to easily avoid overlinks, as discussed below. - Wikid77 ( talk) 09:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
11-Jan-2008: Propagating links with navboxes can be avoided by using a navbox-reference to connect the live navbox-links only as a 2nd-article navbox, or a spawned navbox as a menu in a 2nd window of the browser. Although websites have the option to automatically spawn a new menu window, Wikipedia articles could simply rely on right-clicking a navbox reference to spawn that navbox into a 2nd browser window. By spawning navboxes, those links occur only on the navbox menu page. For Template:Months, by changing the template to spawn a days-navbox, the wikilinks could be reduced to about 10 (rather than 386), to generate about 4180 total links, rather than the current 161,348 propagated links. The net improvement would be 157,000 fewer links for the Wikipedia page-link database(s). Plus, users would see navboxes as small, centralized menu windows, not a section scrolled down at the bottom of various article pages. - Wikid77 ( talk) 09:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Why was this template's main code split into {{ MonthsSource}} in October 2006? Can they be merged back together, so that only one template needs to be watchlisted, and so that only one template needs to be transcluded to each instance?
Should this template be renamed, now that it encompasses days? To something like {{ Monthsanddays}}, perhaps? (As a list of just the months, {{ Month header}} is currently in use on the 12 pages.) -- Quiddity ( talk) 20:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that this template should list only standard dates (i.e. not February 31, etc.). What is the general feeling on this? -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 18:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Gregorian removed, and a new test made. As before, improve or revert if problematic. Ideas welcome. Thanks :) -- Quiddity 06:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
While I understand the point of this template, it makes things difficult if I click " What links Here", as it now brings up at least 365 links of dates. Could the use of this template be voted on for its usefulness or not?? I don't think it helps users who want to see which pages are related to this to see 365 useless pages... Jez ☎ ✉ ✍ 19:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I've converted the template to navbox, which is what has been done with almost every other footer template. The version before Quiddity's had very little white space and I've reverted to that. Navbox allows a standard look all across Wikipedia, it is simpler, and most importantly, it is allowed to collapse. Epson291 ( talk) 03:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I would like to add a special note about the parentheses around February 29. They make it take up more space, not less, meaning that it can suggest that that day is superior, not inferior, to other days. (Specifically, "(29)" is a total of 4 characters; the (, the digits 2 and 9, and the ). On the other hand, "29" is just 2 characters, the digits 2 and 9. Georgia guy ( talk) 15:02, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
ar:قالب:شهور
bjn:Templat:Bulan
es:Plantilla:Mes
eu:Txantiloi:Hil aurkibidea
fr:Modèle:Mois
gu:ઢાંચો:માસ
hi:साँचा:महीने व दिन
hr:Predložak:Mjeseci i dani u godini
ia:Patrono:Menses
hu:Sablon:Az év napjai és hónapjai
mk:Шаблон:Датуми
ne:ढाँचा:Months
pl:Szablon:Miesiące i dni roku
ckb:داڕێژە:ڕۆژەکانی ساڵ
te:మూస:నెలలు తేదీలు
tr:Şablon:Aylar
ur:سانچہ:مہینے
The purpose of this template is to provide navigation to the full set of month-day articles. It's not there to provide links to basic calendar terms such as 'month', 'day', year', or the 12 month names. I suggest that all these should be delinked, just leaving the month-day links. Colonies Chris ( talk) 13:36, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
203.99.208.3 ( talk) 12:11, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Jared Preston ( talk) 12:39, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The part showing the "Today" shows the incorrect date (shows January 7, 2020 when it is January 14, 2020) 64.158.197.100 ( talk) 20:21, 14 January 2020 (UTC)