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Due to an Interview by Satoru Okada [ [1]] several Wikipedia articles are now solely crediting him as the systems' creator with multiple mentions of Gunpei Yokoi being removed entirely, one example [ [2]]. My question is is this the properly way to handle this situation.-- 64.229.167.158 ( talk) 19:39, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Note that these are not in any specific order within the groups, only that the groups are sorted from highest selling downward. It may not be appropriate for all games on this but I can see the cases for including it for games like NMS, Rocket League, Stardew Valley, and so on. -- MASEM ( t) 20:09, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
I have recently nominated
Crispy Gamer, an article that I have reviewed and promoted to the GA status a few weeks ago, for the FA status. The reason why the article is short is because it is complete; no more information about it exists, as the website has largely been obscure and eventually disappeared. No, it is not like the FA candidacy of
Xbox One, as I had previously underestimated how high the FA standards are and I did not know how to actually nominate articles for the status (I had to instead do a peer review). This time, I have made sure that an article is of high standards, and you certainly should not be disappointed in me for that.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 01:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Why did you nominate an article that I worked on without telling me? I am disgusted by this action. GamerPro64 02:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
So I added a link to his article on the Mario franchise template, and then some other editor reverted it stating he had nothing to do with the series apart from being the basis for the character's name. And now I was wondering if a person who had a minor yet key role in the creation of a well-known, influential character should be included in the said navbox. Any thoughts? Blake Gripling ( talk) 04:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Saw this over at Dtoid: [5]. I haven't crosschecked what has been at FA, but anything that hasn't been features and is having its 20th or 30th anniversary would make for a good FAC/Front Page featured. -- MASEM ( t) 18:46, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Is there support for the use of Category:Visual novels by year? White Demon introduced it today, and I'm frankly not sure what the point is - we already have Category:Visual novels and Category:Video games by year. Additionally, the way WD adds it to articles - using it to replace Category:Visual novels and Category:(Year) video games - doesn't really work in my opinion, since there are multi-genre hybrids, like the VN-adventure game Ace Attorney Investigations 2, which now cannot be found in Category:2011 video games.-- IDV talk 11:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Please see Talk:List of GoldSrc engine mods#Proposed merge with Deathmatch Classic. -- ferret ( talk) 12:58, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Research on the effects of violence in mass media#Latest edits. Permalink here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 15:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
A few weeks back, a TfD closed with the consensus of merging "Vgrelease" and "Vgrelease new", with an eye towards migrating to the syntax format of "Vgrelease new". Those updates are now done in the sandbox, with assistance from @ Lordtobi and @ Primefac. Tests cases are available here. Please take a moment to see if we missed anything. I plan to put the sandbox live by Monday. -- ferret ( talk) 19:37, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Today's the day. Please ping me if there's an issue or mention me on discord. -- ferret ( talk) 15:08, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
PrimeBOT is in the midst of converting the old "Vgrelease" syntax to "Vgrelease new" syntax. Please be aware we will remove support of the old named parameters from the template once the bot has finished. -- ferret ( talk) 15:08, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Happy 2017, everyone. Letting you all know that the first video game article up on Today's Featured Article is Defense of the Ancients. Let's hope to see more like it in the months to follow. GamerPro64 03:16, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Since I know newer-ish editors tend to focus a lot on trying to classify a new console generation, editors should be aware of this published opinion that came out today. [6]. It does not say that Switch or Scorpio are new generations, but I can see editors grabbing that title to assert that we are now 9th gen. -- MASEM ( t) 00:21, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
In response to criticism that I have received concerning all the GANs that I have reviewed, I hereby quit as a reviewer and thus refuse to fact-check any of the promoted articles (the only exception being
Crispy Gamer because it is short enough for an editor with hyperactivity). Meanwhile, I shall stick to what I always have been doing: directly improving articles, and the FAC archive for Crispy Gamer should be removed, as I could have been told to withdraw the FAC so that the archive would never have existed.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 04:50, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
If one were to take a look at my recent edits, one would know that I was having trouble with the FA candidacy of
Crispy Gamer. First, I was accused of rudeness, then, I was shouting at the accuser because I had clearly no intentions of being rude (when I knew that I should not
WP:SHOUT, then, I said that I was having fun with the fact that the discussion would not end when I wanted it to end, and last, my reputation is going down as I am receiving criticism. When it comes to FAC, what shall I do, and how can I boost my reputation?
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 20:44, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
And now, I would really like that FAC page to be deleted as it is an embarrassment just I had with the Xbox One FAC page. is that all right?
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 01:58, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
New problem: I admit that, while reviewing
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem,
Deus Ex Go,
ReCore, and
Crispy Gamer, I mostly did not fact-check the information to see whether it was correct. I mostly only pointed out the obvious issues (e.g. missing citation) and trusted the sources. @
The1337gamer: told me that I should have fact-checked in the process, so I believe that these articles may have to be delisted.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 05:25, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
GI just published this nice article focusing on Stephen Radosh, the producer of the four CD-i games that used Nintendo's characters that resulted from the same deal between Phillips and Nintendo [7].
Reading that and seeing what else we have, it makes me think that we should be covering Hotel Mario and the 3 Zelda games in the same place holistically to explain the detail, Radosh's involvement (per this article). I do not think we should dissolve the individual game pages (one for Hotel Mario, one for the Wand/Faces duo since they are extremely tied together, and one for Zelda's Adventure) but I do think that CD-i games from The Legend of Zelda series is unnecessary given that we can write the unifying themes of the story into the main Phillips CD-i page (and it also seems odd to omit Hotel Mario from that group, since outside the common characters of Zelda, Link, and Ganon there's little specifity to Zelda in the trio) Mind you, that page is a good article but listed in 2008 and just considering where to add things, I do not think it qualifies any more, but before I go rushing off to prep such a stage, I'd like to get input to see if this makes sense (specifically to redirect this page to the CD-i page and merge content to that). -- MASEM ( t) 23:23, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Codename: Gordon, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Zwerg Nase ( talk) 13:49, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 08:06, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
Ayu_Tsukimiya, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:12, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Could use more comments. Only have one set of comments (who ended up supporting). Much appreciated for those that do. I'll even do a trade review per se for anyone's GAN or FAC. -- JDC808 ♫ 18:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Any other takers? -- JDC808 ♫ 19:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Currently, the Neo Geo CD and Philips CD-i are both categorized as fourth generation consoles in all relevant articles and templates. I'm not sure if there's a strong basis for this, or if it's original research that simply hasn't been challenged, and my increasing suspicion is that these consoles are actually fifth generation. My initial impetus for this is that the Neo Geo CD and CD-i are both reviewed in the 1995 Next Generation article "Which Game System is the Best!?", which pretty explicitly covers fifth generation consoles only (the magazine cover says the article "details the pros and cons of each next generation system", and the absence of the Super NES and Genesis from the article is pretty telling). But gaming mags in general from the era tend to refer to the Neo Geo CD and CD-i as part of the new generation rather than the old. For the record, my own gut analysis is that the Neo Geo CD is fifth gen (doesn't make sense to me for a console which was announced at the same show as the Sega Saturn to be lumped into the same generation as the Genesis, and lack of polygons notwithstanding the NGCD's specs and features seem fifth generation) and the CD-i is fourth gen (an effective lifespan of 1991-96 seems too far back for a fifth generation console), but naturally I'd like to categorize the consoles based on what notable/reliable sources say. Thoughts?-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 03:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Isn't that how we got this "X generation" scheme to begin with? czar 14:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[Wikipedians] pop up out of nowhere with these random, crazy theories about the VG generations when new platforms arise
I would be too, but it's not like this is some Wikipedia specific classification system. Most gaming sources do mention a system's generation in one way or another, and if we were to remove that entirely form this site, it would just bring unnecessary edit warring, as stated above. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 08:22, 7 January 2017 (UTC)I am up for eliminating generation as WP's classification system for consoles, but doing that would mean a lot of editing and consensus building
We have a problem with the
Virtual Boy article, and the problem is that the article's lead section needs expansion. I have already notified the Nintendo Task Force of this, but it seems that we have not many editors watching the page or even bothering reading it, so I thought that maybe it would be best to forward this thread to this talk page. In the meantime, I am going to be editing other video game articles, specifically those which I am interested in editing.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 06:01, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
This isn't meant to necessarily be a deletion/merger/redirect discussion, I just wanted to get some thoughts on the article before I take any action on it. See Triforce.
Its a lengthy article that's existed since 2004. However, its pretty weakly sourced considering its size, and overly focused on in-universe story content. But at the same, it is a symbolic part of the series. But then again, there is a Universe of Legend of Zelda article. But then again, that article's pretty awful shape too. Who knows if that's even warranted.
So what say you? Worth cleaning up? Or worth persuing a merger somewhere? I'm completely neutral at the moment, and haven't done much source hunting yet, FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 14:59, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Just for the heads up for those interested in the results of Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 September 1#Tales of Eternia, the Japanese cover art for Tales of Eternia is retained, while the European PSP and North Am. (Tales of Destiny II) PS box arts were deleted. How would this affect WP:VGBOX? -- George Ho ( talk) 08:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Meanwhile, what about cover arts at Soul Hackers, Dragon Quest V, Innocent Sin, Star Ocean (video game), etc? -- George Ho ( talk) 22:09, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Since the extra covers of Tales of Eternia were deleted, shall I remove the European PSP of Star Ocean or leave it alone? I did upload it. George Ho ( talk) 21:39, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
See Talk:List of Xbox One games#Steam Machine as a reason for a game not being .22console exclusive.22. -- ferret ( talk) 15:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Our own Ferret is currently up for being made an admin at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ferret, with the goal of joining the handful of editors in this project (including myself) who are admins. They're currently one of five editors up for adminship at the time of this writing. -- Pres N 22:56, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
LÖVE, currently a redirect to Mari0, has been nominated at RfD. Your comments are invited in the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 12#LÖVE. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
When a game is released for platform A, B, and C in Japan, but only for B and C in the West, what is the best way to present this in the infobox? I did it like this, splitting it into A and B+C, because I thought it was the simplest way to do it. The user Neverrainy changed it to list ABC together, with an "(excl. A)" added after regions where A was not released. I disagree with this, and think "my" way is simpler and easier to read. What does the project think about this?-- IDV talk 19:22, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
There is currently a merge discussion at Talk:Characters of Final Fantasy X and X-2#Separation from main game articles. Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 02:18, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Tonight in about 13 hrs from my typing of this, Nintendo will be live-streaming its major Switch reveal (pricing, specs, etc.) followed by a Treehouse for games to be released. The usual cautions about rushing to create articles solely on a single announcement point should apply. -- MASEM ( t) 14:56, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I have a problem. It seems that the Tron 2.0 and Alien Hominid articles keep getting vandalized by IP editors! They keep removing almost all the reviewers and the "na = true" bit from Reception charts, and they keep creating the macOS redirects in the Tron 2.0 article! I keep trying to fix the articles by undoing their vandalisms, but these editors keep undoing my fixes and claiming I "butchered" the Reception charts! Here are the links for both articles. Can you please tell the IP editors to stop butchering both articles and protect them from vandalism by IP editors? -- Angeldeb82 ( talk) 19:01, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 04:04, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello, as seen in the merge effort discussion by Ferret above, we have deprecated the use of "Video game release new" and merged its syntax with that of the original "Video game release" template. The three redirects for the former are listed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 13#Template:Video game release new and #Template:Vgreleasenew. If you find the time, please leave a comment requesting their deletion in the respective sections. Thank you! P.S.: Unrelated to the above, but also to be deleted for the same reason, are Template:Vgrelease tbl and Template:Vgrtbl-nolink, if you feel like it, please also consider requesting their deletion. Thank you! Lordtobi ( ✉) 10:28, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Revisiting the decision to split The World is Not Enough (video game) into different Nintendo 64 and PlayStation articles, how should the remaining incoming links be disambiguated? There are several voice actors with credits for it, and IMDb only has one entry for all versions of the game. Is anyone familiar enough with both games to identify which actors worked on which version? What should be done in situations where links apply to both games? Add two credits? Nick Number ( talk) 02:18, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Looking for more opinions at Talk:Nintendo#Logo. -- ferret ( talk) 14:37, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
See: User talk:Mika1h#Wipeout covers. User:Jaguar wants to change the cover arts of Wipeout (video game) and Wipeout 2097 from PS1 ones to Saturn ones, because in his opinion they are "more presentable" and they "improve readability". First, "more presentable" is entirely subjective. Second, Saturn covers "improve readability" only because they are super high resolution which goes against the non-free use rationale. Third, there is guideline for not changing the cover art if a one already exists: WP:STOPCHANGINGIT. See images here: File:Wipeout cover.jpg & File:Wipeout 2097 cover.jpg. Original covers uploaded in 2008 were deleted for being orphaned. -- Mika1h ( talk) 20:56, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Update: I reinserted both covers per established consensus. Jaguar, can you relent to the establishment and allow me to add {{ db-g7}} to both Saturn images please? -- George Ho ( talk) 21:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I started the request at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop#Wipeout video game covers. Go there if you may. -- George Ho ( talk) 22:33, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Aside from politics over images (which I have been [or had been before a short break] known for [quoting Serge] "making a mountain out of a molehill"), my bigger concern than images is the quality of general/broad pages about generations of consoles and separate decades of video gaming. I wanted to list a lot of links, but there are too many. " Template:History of video games" provides a lot of links, like First generation of video game consoles, Seventh generation of video game consoles (currently Good Article since 2008), 1970s in video gaming, etc. Some of the pages, like the 1st gen page and the 1970s page, may need substantial improvements. I don't know why the 1980s and 1990s pages are not considered GAs yet. I hope people here can put a lot of effort to make the pages GAs somehow, but I won't pressure you all to do it soon. Take time as you please and all that. To be honest, I did see discussions about NeoGeo and Philips CD-I, but I didn't care much for failed consoles. In fact, in terms of video gaming, I'm more interested in general topics, like the 1980s, 1990s, gens, and other general VG topics. George Ho ( talk) 23:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
For those who wish to partake in the discussion, it can be found here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 16#Category:Visual novels by year.-- IDV talk 11:37, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi there. I'm wondering as, given that a huge new article has appeared on Polygon and it's the titles twentieth anniversary, there might be a collaborative effort between editors to bring this title to to FA standard, then return it to its rightful place. I must say here and now that starting from around mid-January I'll have very pressing real-world concerns that will bar me from extensive work on any part of Wikipedia until the beginning of February at the latest (not wikibreak strictly, just not much time to do long bouts of editing). I would be more than happy to take on the Synopsis (which needs trimming I think), Development and Release sections, and others can take on elements such as Gameplay and Reception. It's not a project for the immediate future, but at some point in the next month or two. Opinions? -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 23:04, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@ ProtoDrake: Nice work. The only thing that bothers me is that the setting section has comparisons between areas from the game and real life places which count as WP:OR. Tintor2 ( talk) 13:30, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
I am going to work on the lead this weekend. Given the variety of topics covered on the page, there is a lot to summarize but may need a good four paragraphs. I may also do some work on the gameplay section, seems no one has touched it yet. TarkusAB 04:44, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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Someone needs to describe the CAMERA. Nowhere can I find the specs or data concerning the MB etc pixels, I am not talking about the screenshots , the item I am speaking of is the IR Camera. 207.224.160.62 ( talk) 19:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 04:40, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Since some Video games such as DreamWorks Super Star Kartz have the company branding in it, could we retitle Kung Fu Panda, Kung Fu Panda 2, Kung Fu Panda: Legendary Warriors, and Kung Fu Panda: Showdown of Legendary Legends to have DreamWorks in the title on its respective wikipage? Obviously video game news articles such as IGN, Metacritic, Nintendo.com, GameFAQs and others, they list them with the DreamWorks name on the box art. So what's everyone's thoughts on the matter? Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 02:59, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Here are three GAs that I have reviewed but which were not reviewed correctly:
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365 00:14, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi, everyone here. If someone will please contribute to the reassessment of Mystery of the Emblem, then I'll take up any of their nominated GAs. I worked long and hard on that article, and while I can understand the nominee's reasons for nominating, I'd appreciate a swift response so I don't have to go through the whole process again. If anyone has any questions about the sources, I'll be happy to tell where I found them and why I used them. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 17:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
While adding the DICE award noms that came out today, and recalling what pages like 2016 in video gaming looked like, I would like to suggest that like the film page do (see 2016 in film for example) that we include a short table that lists the games that were nominated and won for Game of the Year from the major awards, specifically the GDC, the AIAS DICE, the BAFTA Game Awards, the Japan Game Awards(*) and the Spike Video Game Awards/The Game Awards. I would strictly limit it to the GotY winner and nominations as there is a far gap of categories otherwise, whereas something like the film awards have a number of common categories. This gives an at-a-glance the top games, which works in association with the metacritic table that I see the 2016 year page has.
(*) While most of these other awards work on the calendar year, the Japan Game Awards works from April to March. But as the bulk of that is in the prior year, I would assign those to the previous year - eg the upcoming 2017 ceremony would be have the games included in the 2016 year page. -- MASEM ( t) 19:45, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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I apologize for what was going on. I did not like learning that I was not a major editor and did not like it when I received comments containing agitation or extreme feelings, which is why I said that I felt "stupid" and "irredeemable", but that is a normal thing for me to do: to say that I feel stupid or irredeemable to counter-fight what I perceived to be arising agitation. Usually, when one person tells me otherwise, I require another person for a confirmation, and being told that I am no major editor of one article by multiple editors made me be convinced that I was not. I did not want to listen to an earlier comment because I felt that it contained the commenter's feeling of agitation. I admit that I cannot handle comments of agitation because they make me feel disruptive. What can I do about the situation?
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This is, according to WP:JCW, one of the most cited sources on Wikipedia that doesn't have a corresponding article. I'd figure I'd mention it here in case someone wanted to fix that. It's used as a source at least 248 times in 178 articles. WP:MWG offers some advice on how to write articles for magazines, but you can look to other articles for guidance too ( Category:Video_game_magazines_by_country). Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 16:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
I can't believe no one has edited this page yet (I would if I knew how to).
There is a page called VGChartz which provides information about sales figures for video games and consoles.
http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/69/playstation-4/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by XtremeNerdz12 ( talk • contribs) 20:51, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 03:48, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Please feel free to contribute to this discussion regarding the creation of a series article for The Last of Us. – Rhain ☔ 07:06, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Another question, is Telegames a home-brew company? It looks out-dated from another dimension where MacBooks, smart phones and broadband don't exist. Govvy ( talk) 15:03, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Discovered this article today. This "era" seems a little dubious. What are your thoughts?-- Coin945 ( talk) 10:37, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
This really seems to be a misunderstanding of the references available, due to a lack of knowledge of the language by the above editors. It's really easy to find reliable sources in Spanish talking about the Golden age of Spanish video games. I'm adding the ones I've found with a quick search; the most important is a published book, subject of at least two reviews at mainstream media ( IGN Spain and El Mundo), and quoted by this issue of the oldest computing magazine in Spain, which also lists several other sources in its references section. Diego ( talk) 16:11, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Most of you are probably aware of the issue we're facing with the Switch (and to a lesser extent, the PS4 Pro and "Scorpio"), which is that we can no longer reliably define console generations. In the past this wasn't a problem, because manufacturers released all their systems roughly within the same timeframe, kept that platform around for several years, then released successors all at the same time. This meant generations practically defined themselves, the entire media would unanimously say "this is the nth generation," and we'd report it here. With the Switch, though, there's no agreement as to whether or not it's 8th or 9th gen, and very likely never will be. This means that, unless we change something, we're never going to be able to assign it to a generation or even write a 9th gen article. We're also facing the very real possibility that the entire modern concept of video game "generations" was popularized by Wikipedia, if not outright invented by editors here, which is obviously...not great.
I think we need to start the discussion now regarding how we move forward. To me, it seems like we're forced into a situation where we're just going to have to drop generational articles. That's not ideal but I honestly don't know how we'd justify our definitions of generations going forward. My only other thought is that we could potentially agree on a single authoritative source to define generations for us. I'm not quite sure who we'd choose for this, or how we'd ever come to an agreement, but I would note that the NPD Group frequently refers to console generations in their reports, and they are a very well-respected group. Wicka wicka ( talk) 15:43, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
None of you are listening. I'm saying that, clearly, the industry will not unanimously agree on how to classify the Switch - they've already failed to do so, and there's no indication whatsoever that this will magically change overnight. Thus, our current system is broken, and needs to be fixed. Waiting accomplishes literally nothing. If you don't want to take action, that's fine, just move along. I'm here to figure out how we can improve Wikipedia, not just sit on our hands. @ Sergecross73: Watch your tone. I know exactly how this works. Please listen to the point I am making and understand that waiting is not a real solution. @ Czar: Yes, that is EXACTLY what I'm getting at, the suggestion that generation articles probably should exist - again, please listen to what I am actually saying instead of leaping to conclusions. It's not a good look. What is your proposed solution? Wicka wicka ( talk) 12:28, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
New bit of heads-up: Ori dev calls Scorpio a "full-blown next gen" machine. Per status, this is in absolutely no way sufficient to start a 9th gen (it's one person), but we know people will use it to justify it. -- MASEM ( t) 14:54, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I just spend time expanding on SAG-AFTRA#Video Game Strike of 2016 (and created the redirect Video Game Strike of 2016), which is the current voice actors strike that is still going. While what I have in the SAG-AFTRA article is good there, there may be potential for more development and which that would probably require a separate article. I might do it myself but just noting that this is one of those topics we might want to be atop on (reflecting state of the industry, rather than knee-deep in actual games :) -- MASEM ( t) 23:44, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
I just started a CfD for MMORPGs by year. If you want to weigh in on it, you can find it here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 26#Category:MMORPGs by year.-- IDV talk 15:23, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
The notability of VGA Planets is currently being challenged. I'm reasonably confident that it is notable, but I have very little experience with the sourcing requirements of this project. Can someone please help out a bit? User:Hjaekel and User:Ylee have been editing it recently, but User:Czar is not happy with the quality and depth of coverage in the book sources on Google Books, and would prefer to redirect it to List of BBS door games. -- Slashme ( talk) 14:25, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Sim racing is in a sorry state: lots of unsourced tags, one-sentence paragraphs, piecemeal sourcing, general incompleteness, confusion with racing video game's scope... Any ideas? TNT? Anyone interested in rewriting? czar 09:08, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
A while back I removed a whole list of home-brew games from the list, I think some have crept back in know. First being Bubble Trouble (1991 video game) which I think should be deleted from wiki, just wanted another set of eyes to have a quick look over it to tell me if I am wrong! Cheers. ( List of Atari Lynx games) Govvy ( talk) 12:38, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- On a sperate note, some IP keeps changing information around, developers, publishers, ect. ( List of Atari Lynx games) I reverted it because he/she didn't provide a source the the data change, I asked for a source, but still didn't get one from him. So I reverted it back twice. He is continuing to make changes without sourcing his data. Other than raising the issue here, it feels stupid to do anything else at the moment. Govvy ( talk) 16:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
There are a few games where the player size/count is of discussion by third-parties (notably, No Man's Sky and Battleborn, but I'm sure there's others). Both Steam Spy and Steam Charts track these concurrent user (CCU) numbers - data that can be pulled from Steam's API - with regularity (typically daily), and often it is the observation of the numbers from these sources that third-parties discuss the player size situation. Clearly, it is no issue to use a reliable third-party source that uses either of these sites.
That said, now that I've discovered how to make on-the-fly graphs, I think in some of these cases having a graph of the CCU player count as a function of time would be helpful. For example, if you look to NMS as the example, you can see a huge bump in players and a higher baseline afterwards in the CCU following its late November patch. This bump is the subject of discussion, just that no third-party has actually plotted a graph of it in their articles.
Would it be reasonable, when we already have third-parties discussing the CCU player count, to include such graphs that are based on data pulled from Steam Spy or Steam Charts, understanding this is otherwise public data Steam provides, just conveniently tallied by these sites? Note that I would be against such graphs if the player count aspect is not discussed by third-parties, as it could be pushing a POV to highlight something no one else has highlighted. I would note that in any of these graphs, there should be an indication to the reader of the source of the data (Steam Spy or Steam Charts) so that they can judge how fallible/accurate the data is themselves. -- MASEM ( t) 17:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
It would be nice to get some free imagery for the 2016 video game voice actor strike article and unfortunately haven't seen anything free off the previous pickets. The union is planning to demonstration on Feb 2 at its HQ, which would be a prime opportunity for some. Yes, it will likely just be ppl holding placards and wearing SAG-AFTRA or other identifying shirts, but still something is better than nothing. -- MASEM ( t) 19:50, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
See here Maybe this could be useful for the project? ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 01:16, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm currently working on an article but struggling in the source department. Not because the game is not notable; it is. But because most of the sources are offline, not in English, or on links that are hard or even impossible to find. According to MobyGames, one review the game was featured in (and the only not-yet-used review included in the "Reference library" tab) is the December 1997 edition of Power Play (Germany). I followed the prompts from that page, but none appear to be from 1997. Please help if you can. :)-- Coin945 ( talk) 06:47, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Just heard news just now that the Australian gaming show "Good Game" got cancelled. There's information about it here but knowing that this has been used as a source on Wikipedia, I thought it would be important to let people know that. Especially since I don't know any other TV show we use as a source here anymore. GamerPro64 02:23, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Masaya Nakamura (Namco) has passed away (he passed last week, but news is hitting today). He founded Namco as well as developed Pac-Man, so it would be helpful if someone could take the various obits coming out to try to expand on this (I've nominated him for ITN/C, but will be out of pocket for several hours to help expand). -- MASEM ( t) 13:59, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Wikidata is confusing the heck out of me. I want to add the German article "Kreuzzug-Reihe" to the English "Pilgrim: Faith as a Weapon". Please help. :)-- Coin945 ( talk) 08:46, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I would assume those big on Nintendo games might follow this already, but updated hardware and (first-party) software sales data through Dec 31, 2016 is now available. -- MASEM ( t) 14:58, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Please take a moment to comment at Template talk:Plot#Requested move 22 January 2017. -- Izno ( talk) 18:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
In light of many VG companies stepping into to support actions against the immigration ban, I am wondering if we can have an article about the intersection of the video game industry and politics, outside of anything otherwise covered by the video game controversies article. Eg more about actions led by the VG industry to support politic actions, rather than the industry reacting to politic actions specifically targetting the VG industry. The current actions would be one subsection of this article, as that alone is not enough to sustain it, so I'm trying to see if there's more that could be added for this. -- MASEM ( t) 17:29, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Didn't see a past discussion on this (and if there was, I apologize), but what about a category for "PlayStation 4 Pro enhanced games"? This could be useful for those interested in which games are PS4 Pro enhanced. -- JDC808 ♫ 10:09, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Thoughts on this category? Previously discussed here czar 20:38, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Happy February everyone. This month's Today's Featured Article will be coming on the 16th with Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward. Congrats to Famous Hobo, IDV, and ThomasO1989 on the good work. GamerPro64 20:48, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
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Super Mario World, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the
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People keep messing around with the release date on the page. I was wondering if the article should be semi-protected to stop ppl from messing with it. Govvy ( talk) 15:20, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
What section would peripherals related to a video game go under? For example, CSGO related SteelSeries products. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 07:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Previously I asked about adding an awards section for these, and this still makes sense, there's something about these year articles that still bugs me, taking for example 2016 in video gaming as the case: (and compare to 2016 in film which I think served as templates for these articles)
It will take time to work through these, so I'd like to basically target one for broad improvements before touching the rest. -- MASEM ( t) 23:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
As it's not a site dedicated to video games, I was recently reminded that Art of the Title does have a fair number of interviews/analysis of title sequences/logo design for video games in addition to TV shows and films. Eg I see Doom, Uncharted 4, DX: Mankind Divided, Octodad, and several others just in a quick scan. Probably only a few dozen VG articles might benefit from it but most of those they cover are also the articles higher up on the importance scale for us. -- MASEM ( t) 23:17, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Sources are starting up with the yearly Call of Duty speculation, with the basic headline I see being "Call of Duty 2017 will take the series 'back to its roots,' Activision says". Just an FYI to keep an eye out for crystal ball and hoax article creations. -- ferret ( talk) 18:31, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Hey guys. Just a heads-up for the future that The Daily Mail is now considered unreliable and prohibited from use on Wikipedia. In case you see it on a Daily Mail article on a page, you should remove it from there. GamerPro64 01:05, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
The Arc System Works article is a complete mess. I've tried my best to clean it up but it's just so difficult to find information about the company. It's especially important to bulk up this particular article considering the acquisitions that they've made with Technos Japan and WorkJam intellectual properties. I need all the help I can get with this particular company article. Thanks Iftekharahmed96 ( talk) 13:38, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
I've noticed articles on lists of video games by system and genre being proposed for deletion (e.g., List of Super Famicom and Super NES puzzle games or List of Super Famicom and Super NES role-playing games). Was there any discussion or consensus that these were inappropriate? Despite what is stated in the prod rationales, I don't see any reason these articles would fail the guidelines for lists. They seem to have well defined topics that are neither too broad nor too narrow, as called for by WP:SALAT, and they seem to be useful both for information and navigational tools as called for by WP:LISTPURP. I also don't think we have any other lists that fully cover the information in these lists. List of Super Famicom games and List of Super Nintendo Entertainment System games exist, but they lack some information presented in these lists (the Super Famicom one doesn't have genre, for instance). Is there any reason why lists by system and genre are considered inappropriate and need to be deleted? Calathan ( talk) 20:23, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and nominated all the "List of Super Famicom and Super NES ..." articles for deletion. I invite everyone to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Super Famicom and Super NES games by genre.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 16:58, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Detroit has ended motion capture footage, but Twinfinite is the only publication that picked it up. Is it reliable? I don't see it on the list. Cognissonance ( talk) 04:31, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
( edit conflict) Twinfinite's staff don't appear to have much credibility at a glance. Their 'about us' page also states that they're an enthusiast site, so I'd say they're not reliable. JAG UAR 19:02, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Now that the RM discussion is closed, what to do about Colony Wars (series), Colony Wars (video game), Colony Wars: Vengeance, and Colony Wars: Red Sun? Is merger likely? -- George Ho ( talk) 06:20, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
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Microsoft plans to talk more about Project Scorpio during E3 this year. It's supposed to be a HW refresh of the Xbox One rather than a new console, but we know the drill by now. -- MASEM ( t) 23:45, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
The Witness has a version for Android that is (as best I can tell), forever going to be exclusive to the NVidia Shield console and not to any other Android device. Prose-wise, not an issue, but what about the Infobox? Is this an "Android" release or a "NVidia Shield" release? -- MASEM ( t) 23:30, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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Due to an Interview by Satoru Okada [ [1]] several Wikipedia articles are now solely crediting him as the systems' creator with multiple mentions of Gunpei Yokoi being removed entirely, one example [ [2]]. My question is is this the properly way to handle this situation.-- 64.229.167.158 ( talk) 19:39, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Note that these are not in any specific order within the groups, only that the groups are sorted from highest selling downward. It may not be appropriate for all games on this but I can see the cases for including it for games like NMS, Rocket League, Stardew Valley, and so on. -- MASEM ( t) 20:09, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
I have recently nominated
Crispy Gamer, an article that I have reviewed and promoted to the GA status a few weeks ago, for the FA status. The reason why the article is short is because it is complete; no more information about it exists, as the website has largely been obscure and eventually disappeared. No, it is not like the FA candidacy of
Xbox One, as I had previously underestimated how high the FA standards are and I did not know how to actually nominate articles for the status (I had to instead do a peer review). This time, I have made sure that an article is of high standards, and you certainly should not be disappointed in me for that.
Gamingforfun365
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Why did you nominate an article that I worked on without telling me? I am disgusted by this action. GamerPro64 02:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
So I added a link to his article on the Mario franchise template, and then some other editor reverted it stating he had nothing to do with the series apart from being the basis for the character's name. And now I was wondering if a person who had a minor yet key role in the creation of a well-known, influential character should be included in the said navbox. Any thoughts? Blake Gripling ( talk) 04:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Saw this over at Dtoid: [5]. I haven't crosschecked what has been at FA, but anything that hasn't been features and is having its 20th or 30th anniversary would make for a good FAC/Front Page featured. -- MASEM ( t) 18:46, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Is there support for the use of Category:Visual novels by year? White Demon introduced it today, and I'm frankly not sure what the point is - we already have Category:Visual novels and Category:Video games by year. Additionally, the way WD adds it to articles - using it to replace Category:Visual novels and Category:(Year) video games - doesn't really work in my opinion, since there are multi-genre hybrids, like the VN-adventure game Ace Attorney Investigations 2, which now cannot be found in Category:2011 video games.-- IDV talk 11:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Please see Talk:List of GoldSrc engine mods#Proposed merge with Deathmatch Classic. -- ferret ( talk) 12:58, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Research on the effects of violence in mass media#Latest edits. Permalink here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 15:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
A few weeks back, a TfD closed with the consensus of merging "Vgrelease" and "Vgrelease new", with an eye towards migrating to the syntax format of "Vgrelease new". Those updates are now done in the sandbox, with assistance from @ Lordtobi and @ Primefac. Tests cases are available here. Please take a moment to see if we missed anything. I plan to put the sandbox live by Monday. -- ferret ( talk) 19:37, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Today's the day. Please ping me if there's an issue or mention me on discord. -- ferret ( talk) 15:08, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
PrimeBOT is in the midst of converting the old "Vgrelease" syntax to "Vgrelease new" syntax. Please be aware we will remove support of the old named parameters from the template once the bot has finished. -- ferret ( talk) 15:08, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Happy 2017, everyone. Letting you all know that the first video game article up on Today's Featured Article is Defense of the Ancients. Let's hope to see more like it in the months to follow. GamerPro64 03:16, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Since I know newer-ish editors tend to focus a lot on trying to classify a new console generation, editors should be aware of this published opinion that came out today. [6]. It does not say that Switch or Scorpio are new generations, but I can see editors grabbing that title to assert that we are now 9th gen. -- MASEM ( t) 00:21, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
In response to criticism that I have received concerning all the GANs that I have reviewed, I hereby quit as a reviewer and thus refuse to fact-check any of the promoted articles (the only exception being
Crispy Gamer because it is short enough for an editor with hyperactivity). Meanwhile, I shall stick to what I always have been doing: directly improving articles, and the FAC archive for Crispy Gamer should be removed, as I could have been told to withdraw the FAC so that the archive would never have existed.
Gamingforfun365
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If one were to take a look at my recent edits, one would know that I was having trouble with the FA candidacy of
Crispy Gamer. First, I was accused of rudeness, then, I was shouting at the accuser because I had clearly no intentions of being rude (when I knew that I should not
WP:SHOUT, then, I said that I was having fun with the fact that the discussion would not end when I wanted it to end, and last, my reputation is going down as I am receiving criticism. When it comes to FAC, what shall I do, and how can I boost my reputation?
Gamingforfun365
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And now, I would really like that FAC page to be deleted as it is an embarrassment just I had with the Xbox One FAC page. is that all right?
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 01:58, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
New problem: I admit that, while reviewing
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem,
Deus Ex Go,
ReCore, and
Crispy Gamer, I mostly did not fact-check the information to see whether it was correct. I mostly only pointed out the obvious issues (e.g. missing citation) and trusted the sources. @
The1337gamer: told me that I should have fact-checked in the process, so I believe that these articles may have to be delisted.
Gamingforfun365
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GI just published this nice article focusing on Stephen Radosh, the producer of the four CD-i games that used Nintendo's characters that resulted from the same deal between Phillips and Nintendo [7].
Reading that and seeing what else we have, it makes me think that we should be covering Hotel Mario and the 3 Zelda games in the same place holistically to explain the detail, Radosh's involvement (per this article). I do not think we should dissolve the individual game pages (one for Hotel Mario, one for the Wand/Faces duo since they are extremely tied together, and one for Zelda's Adventure) but I do think that CD-i games from The Legend of Zelda series is unnecessary given that we can write the unifying themes of the story into the main Phillips CD-i page (and it also seems odd to omit Hotel Mario from that group, since outside the common characters of Zelda, Link, and Ganon there's little specifity to Zelda in the trio) Mind you, that page is a good article but listed in 2008 and just considering where to add things, I do not think it qualifies any more, but before I go rushing off to prep such a stage, I'd like to get input to see if this makes sense (specifically to redirect this page to the CD-i page and merge content to that). -- MASEM ( t) 23:23, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Codename: Gordon, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Zwerg Nase ( talk) 13:49, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
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Ayu_Tsukimiya, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:12, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Could use more comments. Only have one set of comments (who ended up supporting). Much appreciated for those that do. I'll even do a trade review per se for anyone's GAN or FAC. -- JDC808 ♫ 18:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Any other takers? -- JDC808 ♫ 19:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Currently, the Neo Geo CD and Philips CD-i are both categorized as fourth generation consoles in all relevant articles and templates. I'm not sure if there's a strong basis for this, or if it's original research that simply hasn't been challenged, and my increasing suspicion is that these consoles are actually fifth generation. My initial impetus for this is that the Neo Geo CD and CD-i are both reviewed in the 1995 Next Generation article "Which Game System is the Best!?", which pretty explicitly covers fifth generation consoles only (the magazine cover says the article "details the pros and cons of each next generation system", and the absence of the Super NES and Genesis from the article is pretty telling). But gaming mags in general from the era tend to refer to the Neo Geo CD and CD-i as part of the new generation rather than the old. For the record, my own gut analysis is that the Neo Geo CD is fifth gen (doesn't make sense to me for a console which was announced at the same show as the Sega Saturn to be lumped into the same generation as the Genesis, and lack of polygons notwithstanding the NGCD's specs and features seem fifth generation) and the CD-i is fourth gen (an effective lifespan of 1991-96 seems too far back for a fifth generation console), but naturally I'd like to categorize the consoles based on what notable/reliable sources say. Thoughts?-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 03:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Isn't that how we got this "X generation" scheme to begin with? czar 14:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[Wikipedians] pop up out of nowhere with these random, crazy theories about the VG generations when new platforms arise
I would be too, but it's not like this is some Wikipedia specific classification system. Most gaming sources do mention a system's generation in one way or another, and if we were to remove that entirely form this site, it would just bring unnecessary edit warring, as stated above. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 08:22, 7 January 2017 (UTC)I am up for eliminating generation as WP's classification system for consoles, but doing that would mean a lot of editing and consensus building
We have a problem with the
Virtual Boy article, and the problem is that the article's lead section needs expansion. I have already notified the Nintendo Task Force of this, but it seems that we have not many editors watching the page or even bothering reading it, so I thought that maybe it would be best to forward this thread to this talk page. In the meantime, I am going to be editing other video game articles, specifically those which I am interested in editing.
Gamingforfun365
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This isn't meant to necessarily be a deletion/merger/redirect discussion, I just wanted to get some thoughts on the article before I take any action on it. See Triforce.
Its a lengthy article that's existed since 2004. However, its pretty weakly sourced considering its size, and overly focused on in-universe story content. But at the same, it is a symbolic part of the series. But then again, there is a Universe of Legend of Zelda article. But then again, that article's pretty awful shape too. Who knows if that's even warranted.
So what say you? Worth cleaning up? Or worth persuing a merger somewhere? I'm completely neutral at the moment, and haven't done much source hunting yet, FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 14:59, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Just for the heads up for those interested in the results of Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 September 1#Tales of Eternia, the Japanese cover art for Tales of Eternia is retained, while the European PSP and North Am. (Tales of Destiny II) PS box arts were deleted. How would this affect WP:VGBOX? -- George Ho ( talk) 08:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Meanwhile, what about cover arts at Soul Hackers, Dragon Quest V, Innocent Sin, Star Ocean (video game), etc? -- George Ho ( talk) 22:09, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Since the extra covers of Tales of Eternia were deleted, shall I remove the European PSP of Star Ocean or leave it alone? I did upload it. George Ho ( talk) 21:39, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
See Talk:List of Xbox One games#Steam Machine as a reason for a game not being .22console exclusive.22. -- ferret ( talk) 15:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Our own Ferret is currently up for being made an admin at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ferret, with the goal of joining the handful of editors in this project (including myself) who are admins. They're currently one of five editors up for adminship at the time of this writing. -- Pres N 22:56, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
LÖVE, currently a redirect to Mari0, has been nominated at RfD. Your comments are invited in the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 12#LÖVE. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
When a game is released for platform A, B, and C in Japan, but only for B and C in the West, what is the best way to present this in the infobox? I did it like this, splitting it into A and B+C, because I thought it was the simplest way to do it. The user Neverrainy changed it to list ABC together, with an "(excl. A)" added after regions where A was not released. I disagree with this, and think "my" way is simpler and easier to read. What does the project think about this?-- IDV talk 19:22, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
There is currently a merge discussion at Talk:Characters of Final Fantasy X and X-2#Separation from main game articles. Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 02:18, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Tonight in about 13 hrs from my typing of this, Nintendo will be live-streaming its major Switch reveal (pricing, specs, etc.) followed by a Treehouse for games to be released. The usual cautions about rushing to create articles solely on a single announcement point should apply. -- MASEM ( t) 14:56, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I have a problem. It seems that the Tron 2.0 and Alien Hominid articles keep getting vandalized by IP editors! They keep removing almost all the reviewers and the "na = true" bit from Reception charts, and they keep creating the macOS redirects in the Tron 2.0 article! I keep trying to fix the articles by undoing their vandalisms, but these editors keep undoing my fixes and claiming I "butchered" the Reception charts! Here are the links for both articles. Can you please tell the IP editors to stop butchering both articles and protect them from vandalism by IP editors? -- Angeldeb82 ( talk) 19:01, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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Hello, as seen in the merge effort discussion by Ferret above, we have deprecated the use of "Video game release new" and merged its syntax with that of the original "Video game release" template. The three redirects for the former are listed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 13#Template:Video game release new and #Template:Vgreleasenew. If you find the time, please leave a comment requesting their deletion in the respective sections. Thank you! P.S.: Unrelated to the above, but also to be deleted for the same reason, are Template:Vgrelease tbl and Template:Vgrtbl-nolink, if you feel like it, please also consider requesting their deletion. Thank you! Lordtobi ( ✉) 10:28, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Revisiting the decision to split The World is Not Enough (video game) into different Nintendo 64 and PlayStation articles, how should the remaining incoming links be disambiguated? There are several voice actors with credits for it, and IMDb only has one entry for all versions of the game. Is anyone familiar enough with both games to identify which actors worked on which version? What should be done in situations where links apply to both games? Add two credits? Nick Number ( talk) 02:18, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Looking for more opinions at Talk:Nintendo#Logo. -- ferret ( talk) 14:37, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
See: User talk:Mika1h#Wipeout covers. User:Jaguar wants to change the cover arts of Wipeout (video game) and Wipeout 2097 from PS1 ones to Saturn ones, because in his opinion they are "more presentable" and they "improve readability". First, "more presentable" is entirely subjective. Second, Saturn covers "improve readability" only because they are super high resolution which goes against the non-free use rationale. Third, there is guideline for not changing the cover art if a one already exists: WP:STOPCHANGINGIT. See images here: File:Wipeout cover.jpg & File:Wipeout 2097 cover.jpg. Original covers uploaded in 2008 were deleted for being orphaned. -- Mika1h ( talk) 20:56, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Update: I reinserted both covers per established consensus. Jaguar, can you relent to the establishment and allow me to add {{ db-g7}} to both Saturn images please? -- George Ho ( talk) 21:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I started the request at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop#Wipeout video game covers. Go there if you may. -- George Ho ( talk) 22:33, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Aside from politics over images (which I have been [or had been before a short break] known for [quoting Serge] "making a mountain out of a molehill"), my bigger concern than images is the quality of general/broad pages about generations of consoles and separate decades of video gaming. I wanted to list a lot of links, but there are too many. " Template:History of video games" provides a lot of links, like First generation of video game consoles, Seventh generation of video game consoles (currently Good Article since 2008), 1970s in video gaming, etc. Some of the pages, like the 1st gen page and the 1970s page, may need substantial improvements. I don't know why the 1980s and 1990s pages are not considered GAs yet. I hope people here can put a lot of effort to make the pages GAs somehow, but I won't pressure you all to do it soon. Take time as you please and all that. To be honest, I did see discussions about NeoGeo and Philips CD-I, but I didn't care much for failed consoles. In fact, in terms of video gaming, I'm more interested in general topics, like the 1980s, 1990s, gens, and other general VG topics. George Ho ( talk) 23:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
For those who wish to partake in the discussion, it can be found here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 16#Category:Visual novels by year.-- IDV talk 11:37, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi there. I'm wondering as, given that a huge new article has appeared on Polygon and it's the titles twentieth anniversary, there might be a collaborative effort between editors to bring this title to to FA standard, then return it to its rightful place. I must say here and now that starting from around mid-January I'll have very pressing real-world concerns that will bar me from extensive work on any part of Wikipedia until the beginning of February at the latest (not wikibreak strictly, just not much time to do long bouts of editing). I would be more than happy to take on the Synopsis (which needs trimming I think), Development and Release sections, and others can take on elements such as Gameplay and Reception. It's not a project for the immediate future, but at some point in the next month or two. Opinions? -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 23:04, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@ ProtoDrake: Nice work. The only thing that bothers me is that the setting section has comparisons between areas from the game and real life places which count as WP:OR. Tintor2 ( talk) 13:30, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
I am going to work on the lead this weekend. Given the variety of topics covered on the page, there is a lot to summarize but may need a good four paragraphs. I may also do some work on the gameplay section, seems no one has touched it yet. TarkusAB 04:44, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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Someone needs to describe the CAMERA. Nowhere can I find the specs or data concerning the MB etc pixels, I am not talking about the screenshots , the item I am speaking of is the IR Camera. 207.224.160.62 ( talk) 19:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
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Since some Video games such as DreamWorks Super Star Kartz have the company branding in it, could we retitle Kung Fu Panda, Kung Fu Panda 2, Kung Fu Panda: Legendary Warriors, and Kung Fu Panda: Showdown of Legendary Legends to have DreamWorks in the title on its respective wikipage? Obviously video game news articles such as IGN, Metacritic, Nintendo.com, GameFAQs and others, they list them with the DreamWorks name on the box art. So what's everyone's thoughts on the matter? Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 02:59, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Here are three GAs that I have reviewed but which were not reviewed correctly:
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Hi, everyone here. If someone will please contribute to the reassessment of Mystery of the Emblem, then I'll take up any of their nominated GAs. I worked long and hard on that article, and while I can understand the nominee's reasons for nominating, I'd appreciate a swift response so I don't have to go through the whole process again. If anyone has any questions about the sources, I'll be happy to tell where I found them and why I used them. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 17:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
While adding the DICE award noms that came out today, and recalling what pages like 2016 in video gaming looked like, I would like to suggest that like the film page do (see 2016 in film for example) that we include a short table that lists the games that were nominated and won for Game of the Year from the major awards, specifically the GDC, the AIAS DICE, the BAFTA Game Awards, the Japan Game Awards(*) and the Spike Video Game Awards/The Game Awards. I would strictly limit it to the GotY winner and nominations as there is a far gap of categories otherwise, whereas something like the film awards have a number of common categories. This gives an at-a-glance the top games, which works in association with the metacritic table that I see the 2016 year page has.
(*) While most of these other awards work on the calendar year, the Japan Game Awards works from April to March. But as the bulk of that is in the prior year, I would assign those to the previous year - eg the upcoming 2017 ceremony would be have the games included in the 2016 year page. -- MASEM ( t) 19:45, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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I apologize for what was going on. I did not like learning that I was not a major editor and did not like it when I received comments containing agitation or extreme feelings, which is why I said that I felt "stupid" and "irredeemable", but that is a normal thing for me to do: to say that I feel stupid or irredeemable to counter-fight what I perceived to be arising agitation. Usually, when one person tells me otherwise, I require another person for a confirmation, and being told that I am no major editor of one article by multiple editors made me be convinced that I was not. I did not want to listen to an earlier comment because I felt that it contained the commenter's feeling of agitation. I admit that I cannot handle comments of agitation because they make me feel disruptive. What can I do about the situation?
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This is, according to WP:JCW, one of the most cited sources on Wikipedia that doesn't have a corresponding article. I'd figure I'd mention it here in case someone wanted to fix that. It's used as a source at least 248 times in 178 articles. WP:MWG offers some advice on how to write articles for magazines, but you can look to other articles for guidance too ( Category:Video_game_magazines_by_country). Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 16:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
I can't believe no one has edited this page yet (I would if I knew how to).
There is a page called VGChartz which provides information about sales figures for video games and consoles.
http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/69/playstation-4/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by XtremeNerdz12 ( talk • contribs) 20:51, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 03:48, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Please feel free to contribute to this discussion regarding the creation of a series article for The Last of Us. – Rhain ☔ 07:06, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Another question, is Telegames a home-brew company? It looks out-dated from another dimension where MacBooks, smart phones and broadband don't exist. Govvy ( talk) 15:03, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Discovered this article today. This "era" seems a little dubious. What are your thoughts?-- Coin945 ( talk) 10:37, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
This really seems to be a misunderstanding of the references available, due to a lack of knowledge of the language by the above editors. It's really easy to find reliable sources in Spanish talking about the Golden age of Spanish video games. I'm adding the ones I've found with a quick search; the most important is a published book, subject of at least two reviews at mainstream media ( IGN Spain and El Mundo), and quoted by this issue of the oldest computing magazine in Spain, which also lists several other sources in its references section. Diego ( talk) 16:11, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Most of you are probably aware of the issue we're facing with the Switch (and to a lesser extent, the PS4 Pro and "Scorpio"), which is that we can no longer reliably define console generations. In the past this wasn't a problem, because manufacturers released all their systems roughly within the same timeframe, kept that platform around for several years, then released successors all at the same time. This meant generations practically defined themselves, the entire media would unanimously say "this is the nth generation," and we'd report it here. With the Switch, though, there's no agreement as to whether or not it's 8th or 9th gen, and very likely never will be. This means that, unless we change something, we're never going to be able to assign it to a generation or even write a 9th gen article. We're also facing the very real possibility that the entire modern concept of video game "generations" was popularized by Wikipedia, if not outright invented by editors here, which is obviously...not great.
I think we need to start the discussion now regarding how we move forward. To me, it seems like we're forced into a situation where we're just going to have to drop generational articles. That's not ideal but I honestly don't know how we'd justify our definitions of generations going forward. My only other thought is that we could potentially agree on a single authoritative source to define generations for us. I'm not quite sure who we'd choose for this, or how we'd ever come to an agreement, but I would note that the NPD Group frequently refers to console generations in their reports, and they are a very well-respected group. Wicka wicka ( talk) 15:43, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
None of you are listening. I'm saying that, clearly, the industry will not unanimously agree on how to classify the Switch - they've already failed to do so, and there's no indication whatsoever that this will magically change overnight. Thus, our current system is broken, and needs to be fixed. Waiting accomplishes literally nothing. If you don't want to take action, that's fine, just move along. I'm here to figure out how we can improve Wikipedia, not just sit on our hands. @ Sergecross73: Watch your tone. I know exactly how this works. Please listen to the point I am making and understand that waiting is not a real solution. @ Czar: Yes, that is EXACTLY what I'm getting at, the suggestion that generation articles probably should exist - again, please listen to what I am actually saying instead of leaping to conclusions. It's not a good look. What is your proposed solution? Wicka wicka ( talk) 12:28, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
New bit of heads-up: Ori dev calls Scorpio a "full-blown next gen" machine. Per status, this is in absolutely no way sufficient to start a 9th gen (it's one person), but we know people will use it to justify it. -- MASEM ( t) 14:54, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I just spend time expanding on SAG-AFTRA#Video Game Strike of 2016 (and created the redirect Video Game Strike of 2016), which is the current voice actors strike that is still going. While what I have in the SAG-AFTRA article is good there, there may be potential for more development and which that would probably require a separate article. I might do it myself but just noting that this is one of those topics we might want to be atop on (reflecting state of the industry, rather than knee-deep in actual games :) -- MASEM ( t) 23:44, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
I just started a CfD for MMORPGs by year. If you want to weigh in on it, you can find it here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 26#Category:MMORPGs by year.-- IDV talk 15:23, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
The notability of VGA Planets is currently being challenged. I'm reasonably confident that it is notable, but I have very little experience with the sourcing requirements of this project. Can someone please help out a bit? User:Hjaekel and User:Ylee have been editing it recently, but User:Czar is not happy with the quality and depth of coverage in the book sources on Google Books, and would prefer to redirect it to List of BBS door games. -- Slashme ( talk) 14:25, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Sim racing is in a sorry state: lots of unsourced tags, one-sentence paragraphs, piecemeal sourcing, general incompleteness, confusion with racing video game's scope... Any ideas? TNT? Anyone interested in rewriting? czar 09:08, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
A while back I removed a whole list of home-brew games from the list, I think some have crept back in know. First being Bubble Trouble (1991 video game) which I think should be deleted from wiki, just wanted another set of eyes to have a quick look over it to tell me if I am wrong! Cheers. ( List of Atari Lynx games) Govvy ( talk) 12:38, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- On a sperate note, some IP keeps changing information around, developers, publishers, ect. ( List of Atari Lynx games) I reverted it because he/she didn't provide a source the the data change, I asked for a source, but still didn't get one from him. So I reverted it back twice. He is continuing to make changes without sourcing his data. Other than raising the issue here, it feels stupid to do anything else at the moment. Govvy ( talk) 16:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
There are a few games where the player size/count is of discussion by third-parties (notably, No Man's Sky and Battleborn, but I'm sure there's others). Both Steam Spy and Steam Charts track these concurrent user (CCU) numbers - data that can be pulled from Steam's API - with regularity (typically daily), and often it is the observation of the numbers from these sources that third-parties discuss the player size situation. Clearly, it is no issue to use a reliable third-party source that uses either of these sites.
That said, now that I've discovered how to make on-the-fly graphs, I think in some of these cases having a graph of the CCU player count as a function of time would be helpful. For example, if you look to NMS as the example, you can see a huge bump in players and a higher baseline afterwards in the CCU following its late November patch. This bump is the subject of discussion, just that no third-party has actually plotted a graph of it in their articles.
Would it be reasonable, when we already have third-parties discussing the CCU player count, to include such graphs that are based on data pulled from Steam Spy or Steam Charts, understanding this is otherwise public data Steam provides, just conveniently tallied by these sites? Note that I would be against such graphs if the player count aspect is not discussed by third-parties, as it could be pushing a POV to highlight something no one else has highlighted. I would note that in any of these graphs, there should be an indication to the reader of the source of the data (Steam Spy or Steam Charts) so that they can judge how fallible/accurate the data is themselves. -- MASEM ( t) 17:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
It would be nice to get some free imagery for the 2016 video game voice actor strike article and unfortunately haven't seen anything free off the previous pickets. The union is planning to demonstration on Feb 2 at its HQ, which would be a prime opportunity for some. Yes, it will likely just be ppl holding placards and wearing SAG-AFTRA or other identifying shirts, but still something is better than nothing. -- MASEM ( t) 19:50, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
See here Maybe this could be useful for the project? ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 01:16, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm currently working on an article but struggling in the source department. Not because the game is not notable; it is. But because most of the sources are offline, not in English, or on links that are hard or even impossible to find. According to MobyGames, one review the game was featured in (and the only not-yet-used review included in the "Reference library" tab) is the December 1997 edition of Power Play (Germany). I followed the prompts from that page, but none appear to be from 1997. Please help if you can. :)-- Coin945 ( talk) 06:47, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Just heard news just now that the Australian gaming show "Good Game" got cancelled. There's information about it here but knowing that this has been used as a source on Wikipedia, I thought it would be important to let people know that. Especially since I don't know any other TV show we use as a source here anymore. GamerPro64 02:23, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Masaya Nakamura (Namco) has passed away (he passed last week, but news is hitting today). He founded Namco as well as developed Pac-Man, so it would be helpful if someone could take the various obits coming out to try to expand on this (I've nominated him for ITN/C, but will be out of pocket for several hours to help expand). -- MASEM ( t) 13:59, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Wikidata is confusing the heck out of me. I want to add the German article "Kreuzzug-Reihe" to the English "Pilgrim: Faith as a Weapon". Please help. :)-- Coin945 ( talk) 08:46, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I would assume those big on Nintendo games might follow this already, but updated hardware and (first-party) software sales data through Dec 31, 2016 is now available. -- MASEM ( t) 14:58, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Please take a moment to comment at Template talk:Plot#Requested move 22 January 2017. -- Izno ( talk) 18:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
In light of many VG companies stepping into to support actions against the immigration ban, I am wondering if we can have an article about the intersection of the video game industry and politics, outside of anything otherwise covered by the video game controversies article. Eg more about actions led by the VG industry to support politic actions, rather than the industry reacting to politic actions specifically targetting the VG industry. The current actions would be one subsection of this article, as that alone is not enough to sustain it, so I'm trying to see if there's more that could be added for this. -- MASEM ( t) 17:29, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Didn't see a past discussion on this (and if there was, I apologize), but what about a category for "PlayStation 4 Pro enhanced games"? This could be useful for those interested in which games are PS4 Pro enhanced. -- JDC808 ♫ 10:09, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Thoughts on this category? Previously discussed here czar 20:38, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Happy February everyone. This month's Today's Featured Article will be coming on the 16th with Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward. Congrats to Famous Hobo, IDV, and ThomasO1989 on the good work. GamerPro64 20:48, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
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Super Mario World, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the
reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article.
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People keep messing around with the release date on the page. I was wondering if the article should be semi-protected to stop ppl from messing with it. Govvy ( talk) 15:20, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
What section would peripherals related to a video game go under? For example, CSGO related SteelSeries products. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 07:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Previously I asked about adding an awards section for these, and this still makes sense, there's something about these year articles that still bugs me, taking for example 2016 in video gaming as the case: (and compare to 2016 in film which I think served as templates for these articles)
It will take time to work through these, so I'd like to basically target one for broad improvements before touching the rest. -- MASEM ( t) 23:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
As it's not a site dedicated to video games, I was recently reminded that Art of the Title does have a fair number of interviews/analysis of title sequences/logo design for video games in addition to TV shows and films. Eg I see Doom, Uncharted 4, DX: Mankind Divided, Octodad, and several others just in a quick scan. Probably only a few dozen VG articles might benefit from it but most of those they cover are also the articles higher up on the importance scale for us. -- MASEM ( t) 23:17, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Sources are starting up with the yearly Call of Duty speculation, with the basic headline I see being "Call of Duty 2017 will take the series 'back to its roots,' Activision says". Just an FYI to keep an eye out for crystal ball and hoax article creations. -- ferret ( talk) 18:31, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Hey guys. Just a heads-up for the future that The Daily Mail is now considered unreliable and prohibited from use on Wikipedia. In case you see it on a Daily Mail article on a page, you should remove it from there. GamerPro64 01:05, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
The Arc System Works article is a complete mess. I've tried my best to clean it up but it's just so difficult to find information about the company. It's especially important to bulk up this particular article considering the acquisitions that they've made with Technos Japan and WorkJam intellectual properties. I need all the help I can get with this particular company article. Thanks Iftekharahmed96 ( talk) 13:38, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
I've noticed articles on lists of video games by system and genre being proposed for deletion (e.g., List of Super Famicom and Super NES puzzle games or List of Super Famicom and Super NES role-playing games). Was there any discussion or consensus that these were inappropriate? Despite what is stated in the prod rationales, I don't see any reason these articles would fail the guidelines for lists. They seem to have well defined topics that are neither too broad nor too narrow, as called for by WP:SALAT, and they seem to be useful both for information and navigational tools as called for by WP:LISTPURP. I also don't think we have any other lists that fully cover the information in these lists. List of Super Famicom games and List of Super Nintendo Entertainment System games exist, but they lack some information presented in these lists (the Super Famicom one doesn't have genre, for instance). Is there any reason why lists by system and genre are considered inappropriate and need to be deleted? Calathan ( talk) 20:23, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and nominated all the "List of Super Famicom and Super NES ..." articles for deletion. I invite everyone to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Super Famicom and Super NES games by genre.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 16:58, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Detroit has ended motion capture footage, but Twinfinite is the only publication that picked it up. Is it reliable? I don't see it on the list. Cognissonance ( talk) 04:31, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
( edit conflict) Twinfinite's staff don't appear to have much credibility at a glance. Their 'about us' page also states that they're an enthusiast site, so I'd say they're not reliable. JAG UAR 19:02, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Now that the RM discussion is closed, what to do about Colony Wars (series), Colony Wars (video game), Colony Wars: Vengeance, and Colony Wars: Red Sun? Is merger likely? -- George Ho ( talk) 06:20, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
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Microsoft plans to talk more about Project Scorpio during E3 this year. It's supposed to be a HW refresh of the Xbox One rather than a new console, but we know the drill by now. -- MASEM ( t) 23:45, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
The Witness has a version for Android that is (as best I can tell), forever going to be exclusive to the NVidia Shield console and not to any other Android device. Prose-wise, not an issue, but what about the Infobox? Is this an "Android" release or a "NVidia Shield" release? -- MASEM ( t) 23:30, 15 February 2017 (UTC)