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I see on alexa.com that Wikipedia is ranked at #6. Are there any other references, perhaps from a scientific journal, etc., available that I can site relative rank of Wikipedia among other top websites? I would prefer to cite something other than alexa if possible. --- kilbad ( talk) 15:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to find the number of new pages created within a certain time frame which are within the scope of a particular project. Restated, and more specifically, if I wanted to know how many new dermatology-related articles had been created since Nov 08, how could I find that out? Could I use the derm assessment data somehow? --- kilbad ( talk) 19:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I have made a number of suggestion to improving our collaboration with google Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Google Project. Comments would be appreciated. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 06:19, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Good point, WAID. I was wondering about where this project is occurring. I keep seeing references to it but no actual messages between WP editors and the Google folks (who, incidentally, mostly (or all?) seem to work for a journal article editing company in North Carolina called American Journal Experts. Isn't this a bit odd? Postpostmod ( talk) 00:21, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Initially, the list of cutaneous condition was found at a different location than it is now. Initially, the list was found at what is now called "cutaneous conditions." However, after various moves and renames, the list if now at "list of cutaneous conditions." However, the history of the list is fractured, and I wanted to know if someone could tidy up the histories somehow? If that is even possible? Basically, I would like to see the history of edits starting from here to here moved over to the beginning of the history of the list of cutaneous conditions. Is that possible? I just want to be able to track the history of the development of the list in one place. --- kilbad ( talk) 17:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniosacral_therapy#The_primary_respiratory_mechanism
This has been tagged for some time and needs to be brought up to MEDRS standards. -- Brangifer ( talk) 23:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
First, for pages within the scope of the Dermatology task force, I am looking to get a listing of articles that are either good or featured status, and the date at which they were given that status. Second, I am looking for some data stating how many derm-related pages have images, and how many do not. Could someone help me with this? Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 16:06, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
The script I worked up is at User:MastCell/dermimages.py, if anyone cares. The tricky thing is that a lot of pages have non-content images - that is, images from stub templates, maintenance templates, navigation templates, etc. I figure you don't want to count those, so I wrote a set of "excludable" images into the script. The set isn't complete - so I need to go through the output, find the non-content images, and add them by hand to the global exclude list in the script. That will make the count more accurate.
I realized halfway through that you're probably most interested in the raw number of pages without images, which isn't readily available from the output I created. I'll modify the script to total up the # of pages, # with zero images, # with 1 image, # with 2 images, etc... it will be easy, but I'll probably get to it tomorrow. In the meantime, the table of results can be sorted by # of images, but that's probably not a great workaround. MastCell Talk 03:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Someone just created a page for Virginia Livingston, and is using it as a transparent and inappropriate soapbox for her therapies being unjustly maligned, using medically unreliable sources, including extensive use of "personal communication". Any interested editors, I'll be culling and rewriting for a while, but review and input is welcome. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 22:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I have done some work on this topic which is now before arbcom. TM makes a number of health claims including improving BP, anxiety, and living forever. A member of Arbcom has concluded that the ongoing debates is "really about conflicting philosophies: on the one hand we have, for want of a better word, mysticism; on the other, rationalism." [8] Wondering if others could comment as this does pertain directly with our topic area. Thanks Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 00:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Could someone with experience in the area of anesthetics please have a look at the recent IP edits to isoflurane? They are presumably well-intentioned, but made by a someone whose native language is probably not English. Also, though this is not my area of expertise, I suspect there may be some over-interpretation of the cited references. ChemNerd ( talk) 11:43, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
User:BSW-RMH has posted a great review at Talk:Chagas_disease#External_review_comments. This featured article (from 2005) is in pretty good shape, but this list of improvements will give it a good update and correct a small number of inaccurate statements. One of the things I particularly appreciate in the review is that the recommendations are concrete, specific, and actionable -- like, 'This uses the 2002 numbers, and the 2004 stats can be found here', or 'This newer source might replace that older one'.
If you're looking for a way to help out, please consider picking an open item from the review (at the moment, look under "Management", "Epidemiology", and "References"), and helping us take advantage of this opportunity to correct and update this featured article. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
I've begun an article on Save the Children's State of the World's Mothers report. This year's report seems of particular relevance to upcoming events at the 36th G8 summit. I've just proposed a rather provocative T:DYK hook for it, which unfortunately seems to be true however preposterous it might sound:
I would welcome your insights. Mike Serfas ( talk) 02:18, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Wondering if we have any artists here who would be interested in creating illustrations a la Frank Netter? We could use one for Cushings syndrome such as this one [12] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 16:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
The WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons (UBLPs) aims to reduce the number of unreferenced biographical articles to under 30,000 by June 1, primarily by enabling WikiProjects to easily identify UBLP articles in their project's scope. There were over 52,000 unreferenced BLPs in January 2010 and this has been reduced to 32,665 as of May 16. A bot is now running daily to compile a list of all articles that are in both Category:All unreferenced BLPs and have been tagged by a WikiProject. Note that the bot does NOT place unreferenced tags or assign articles to projects - this has been done by others previously - it just compiles a list.
Your Project's list can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Unreferenced BLPs. As of May 17 you have approximately 23 articles to be referenced. The list of all other WikiProject UBLPs can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/WikiProjects.
Your assistance in reviewing and referencing these articles is greatly appreciated. If you have any questions, please don't hestitate to ask either at WT:URBLP or at my talk page. Thanks, The-Pope ( talk) 16:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I recently became involved in Simple English Wikipedia, and it has come to my attention that this Wikipedia has very few medical articles. Although I have written a few articles there, including hepatocellular carcinoma,this Wikipedia remains in great need of expanded medical coverage. I would encourage any editors involved in wikiproject medicine to help out there as well. Regards. Immunize ( talk) 17:59, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Wondering if this should be merged to silicosis? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 17:00, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Wondering if this page would best be served by merging it into
Systemic lupus erythematosus or turning it into a disambig? I have never heard the term use on it own without systemic or discoid in from and am unable to find a ref pertaining to it.
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Anyway to generate how many hits the sum of all article pages in this project get? Thanks Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 01:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
We are having a discussion on whether or not heartburn should be used as a symptoms of burning in the chest (as in emergency medicine) or as a disease synonymous with
GERD a burning sensation in the chest due to reflux. (as in gastroenterology). Comments welcome
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This image of the circuits of the basal ganglia is again put at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates after some improvements. In the first nomination, it didn't get enough votes, so your opinion is very appreciated. See Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Basal ganglia circuits (2nd nomination). Mikael Häggström ( talk) 05:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Month | Hits |
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July 2009 | 142,598,369 |
August 2009 | 147,795,383 |
September 2009 | 155,748,923 |
October 2009 | (Poor data )2,333,119 |
November 2009 | 156,086,120 |
December 2009 | 132,352,902 |
January 2010 | 127,366,430 |
February 2010 | 140,750,494 |
March 2010 | 162,087,808 |
April 2010 | 157,343,696 |
I have added our impact here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Popular pages. Wikipedia medicine is popular. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 02:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi. On its Talk page, I'm suggesting this article be merged with Mood disorder or deleted. Your input would be welcome. Anthony ( talk) 12:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the WikiProject covers this, well, FYI
the merging of the above has been proposed, see
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_May_22
70.29.210.155 ( talk) 04:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Another user has generated a list of untagged derm-related redirects. I wanted to know if someone could help tag these redirect talk pages with
{{WPMED|class=redirect|importance=|dermatology=yes}}
? Perhaps there is an automated way to do this? Thanks in advance for your help! --- kilbad ( talk) 02:16, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
So can someone help do this in an automated fashion? --- kilbad ( talk) 16:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I've been asked by Calmer Waters if I can run this. Just letting you know my response is here. Unless there are any complaints, I should be running this task shortly. - Kingpin 13 ( talk) 13:21, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Members of this project might benefit from What is in the Diseases Database? Diseases Database. -- Wavelength ( talk) 02:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Could someone please have a look at the requested move of Gene synthesis → Synthetic DNA (see Talk:Gene synthesis#Requested move)? I'm thinking of making additional changes to the article once the location is determined, but can't move it myself. Mikael Häggström ( talk) 11:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
I added what appears to be a legitimate source so that this new article would not be subject to the BLP PROD, but it could still use a lot of TLC from someone who knows how to develop articles about academics. Thanks! Active Banana ( talk) 20:17, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Bilateral cingulotomy seems to need reassessment. Substantial content was added two years ago, yet it's still flagged as a stub.-- Uanfala ( talk) 10:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Lokal just finished some more maps looking at number of deaths rather than DALYs if people want to add any. [14] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 15:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
See Template talk:WPMED#Requested move. – xeno talk 18:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to request outside input at Wilson's syndrome (note: distinct from Wilson's disease). This is a medically unrecognized entity. The article seems to be watched by me and by a handful of IPs/single-purpose accounts. Rather than participate further in a back-and-forth, I'd like to solicit some outside eyes. Any input would be welcome. The dispute revolves (IMO at least) around the repeated removal of reliable sources by the IP/single-purpose editors. MastCell Talk 20:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Could someone here take a look at the latest edit to this article please? I can't tell whether it's another vandalism edit or a valid addition. Thank you. -- Tom N (tcncv) talk/ contrib 00:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
There is a long anti-psychiatry rant in the Freedom of thought article under the section Canada. I think the article needs to be reworked and purged of the nonsense.
A small part of the section may be appropriate for the anti-psychiatry article; the idea that psychiatrists substantially limit freedom of thought is a point that could be discussed (and shown to be nonsense). Nephron T| C 02:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Wondering if we should move this to esophageal rupture as this is the term used by the ICD10 as medicine attempts to move away from peoples names. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 09:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I have spoken with Dr. T. Balasubramanian who has agree to release his images as CC BY SA. The atlas is here [16]. Do we have a page were we keep track of source of medical images which can be used on Wikipedia? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 19:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Also does anyone know the copyright status of the A.D.A.M. images? We use a bunch of them but they appear to be under copyright [17]. Images include [18], [19], [20], and ohers. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
The TNM cancer classification has recently been updated in this 2010 text: Edge, SB, Byrd, DR, Compton, CC, et al (Eds). AJCC (American Joint Committee on Cancer) Cancer Staging Manual, 7th ed, Springer, New York, 2010.
If anyone feels inspired.-- Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 06:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I have created a page here listing resources to help editors in this project: Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Resources. Wondering if we should list this at WP:MED and WP:MEDRS? -- Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 10:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Heartened by the influx of outside eyes and helpful input at Wilson's syndrome, I have another such request. There is currently a rather active discussion at Talk:Abortion about how to best present the health risks associated with abortion. Actually, it's basically 3 editors (one of them me) going around in circles, so I think more input would be useful. I'm asking here since a lot of the issues turn on WP:MEDRS and the appropriate representation of procedural risks. I will say upfront that I personally think that the interpretation of WP:MEDRS being pushed on the talk page is extreme and divergent from the actual content of the guideline. As one might imagine, it's a controversial topic and prone to agenda-driven editing, but all the more reason to ask for more outside eyes. So if anyone feels brave, any additional input would be welcome. MastCell Talk 20:29, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I ran across John D. Lambris while new page patrolling. It was copied exactly from the subject's website and tagged by Corenbot. I have removed the copyrighted portion and tried to work on it, but I don't really know anything about science/medicine and would be very grateful for an expert on the subject to pick this up. A Google News archive search yields several results. Help? PrincessofLlyr royal court 19:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
An editor has created medical articles that consist solely of tables: Fibrous lesions and Polyp table. I don't know what to make of them, as they lack leads or any other context. Types of myxomas was already redirected. Fences& Windows 00:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello fellow medics! Radiation (pain) should be a far bigger article IMHO.
Unfortunately I do not know enough about this subject and have exams coming up so haven't got much time.
Any improvements would be a big improvement for such an important article, please contribute if you can. Best regards, Captain n00dle \ Talk 22:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
A section in Pain would not be out of place. If no one else does, I'll get round to it soon. (I've just bought a bunch of pain textbooks.) Anthony ( talk) 05:26, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Looks like a synonym of referred pain. Should we just redirect? Anthony ( talk) 07:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Have rewritten croup and put it up for GAN. If anyone would be so obliging to review it. Thanks Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 03:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Very best regards: Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS ( talk) 20:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
What is up with the diberri template filler? --- kilbad ( talk) 14:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
but not very readable. FYI. -- Hordaland ( talk) 22:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
OUTDENT - Just for fun I'm checking readablility of " Acute myeloid leukemia" using the SMOG site & noting here some results.
An interesting comparison point: consent forms for medical treatment are generally required to be written at approximately an 8th-grade level, at least in my experience. Obviously there are ethicolegal reasons for that, but I wonder where our benchmark/"target" should be.
As another aside, I think that Wikipedia is substantially more "readable" in ways that don't translate easily to existing automated tools. Think about it - to adequately explain graft-vs.-host disease in a traditional written form, you'd first have to explain how bone marrow transplantation works, what a T cell is, how MHC-based allorecognition works, etc. Here, you can wikilink those terms, allowing readers to explore them at their own level of interest/sophistication/etc. Although I think we probably get dinged on "readability" for that approach. MastCell Talk 23:48, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
"After writing the above I read, very carefully, the Diagnosis section of Acute myeloid leukemia, and I couldn't see a reasonable way to lower the grade level on that section."
— Hordaland
Wondering what people think about removing the "Former featured articles" and "Did you know" section from the "Show case" section and replacing it with the total page views as found here Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Popular pages and a paragraph regarding the impact of health care information on Wikipedia? For example most medical student use us and nearly half of physicians in clinical practice. ( with refs of course ) This might make people more interested in participating. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 17:34, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
This Washington Post article might be of some interest to editors over here. The short version: "Good news: Wikipedia's cancer information is generally accurate. Bad news: It's hard to read." WTF? ( talk) 02:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
It was asked if the editing of Wikipedia could count as a continuing medical education for health care providers. I have sent the CFPC the following question to determine interest. Should we develop proposals to send to other organizations? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 17:53, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
(undent) Have received a response from the College of Family Physicians of Canada which looks hopeful.
I am responding to your query regarding credits for writing content for a medical Wikipedia.
I had this discussion with a group in the Department of Family and Community Medicine at the Universiy of Toronto a couple of years ago. I am not certain of the current status of their project. Writing content for a medical wikipedia would qualify for M2 credits on an hourly basis. If a physician did a literature review for this they could earn Mainpro C credits as a PEARLS exercise.
If you wish to discuss this further you may contact me at the coordinates below
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 19:48, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Whether this should be its own article I will leave up to someone else. However, how does the capitalization of the article's title look? --- kilbad ( talk) 19:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Should we have a separate article about this subject ?? MaenK.A. Talk 22:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I am reviewing Gout for GA status at Talk:Gout/GA1. Can anyone see information left out which should be in there? Any other comments welcome. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 14:05, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
The condition Nevus Psiloliparus is not a proper noun. Perhaps someone would consider moving it back to Nevus psiloliparus? --- kilbad ( talk) 21:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Would an admin please move Guinea Worm Disease to Guinea worm disease? We could also use some more medical admins? I would like to nominate User:Literaturegeek, User:Garrondo, User:RexxS, User:Mikael Häggström and User:Kilbad if they are interested... Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 15:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
(outdent) All those people are great (except for that literaturegeek person, hehe). Other people to consider for adminship are, User:Colin, User:Scray, User:WhatamIdoing.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 22:33, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I hadn't noticed an overly large delay in procedures requiring admin tools - or are the current admins being overworked? I've been content without the admin tools thus far, but if there is a need for more would consider helping out with the menial chores. I'm a fairly sporadic editor - sometimes get stuck right in - other times might go for weeks making only small edits, so it depends what areas you think need more support. I am assuming you mean pages moves ( as above ), maybe temporary page protection when a class is using the article!, are there any other areas you're thinking of ? Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 12:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I am planning some work on pneumothorax. I notice that the complication of tension pneumothorax has had its own article for a while. I'm not sure what the point in that might be, because every form of pneumothorax can be complicated by tension (not just a sucking chest wound), and hence I have requested a move. I have listed a number of references on Talk:Pneumothorax. JFW | T@lk 10:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
It appears they are going to appear on June 14th! They will be limited to 2000 and need to be applied by an admin. I think a lot of our currently semi protected pages would work well as flagged revisions and would be happy to keep an eye on suggested changes. Many of our articles related to sex, sexually transmitted diseases, and psychiatry which are often controversial I think would be well served. Any admins here thinking of applying this protection level? See here for more info [25] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 04:21, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I became aware of the edits of User:AlanAbery via an edit he made that dropped a page onto the Short Pages report. The user turned a redirect into a disambig, adding a link to a newly formed page on a medical journal. That page showed no obvious indications that the particular journal, Cytotherapy, was notable. Not being particularly knowledgeable about such journals, I dropped Notability and PrimarySources tags on it. As I often do, I glanced at the user's other contributions, and from there noticed that this user has created quite a few of these articles on medical journals. After similarly tagging several more, I realized that tagging dozens of such articles is likely not the best way to go about this.
So I'm here looking for assistance/advice as to what is the proper next step. It's quite possible that every one of these journals are notable by WP standards. But as the articles now stand, there's really no indication of such. If A7 applied to publications, they could conceivably be A7 deleted, given the lack of notability indications.
Are there specific notability criteria for publications and/or scientific journals? If so, where? - TexasAndroid ( talk) 15:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
The edits of these redirects and disambig pages are for the abbreviations of the medical journals, so that if someone types in the abbreviation of the journal, they will be able to find it. For example, if you go onto the page on Audiological Medicine (SUAM), you will see on the infobox on the right that the abbreviated title is "AUM". And on the publisher's (Informa's) website, you can see that this IS the abbreviated title of this. journal. [1] I hope that this helps. Let me know if there are still any problems. { talk} 16:58, 10 June 2010.
Good suggestion. I've done this. The discussion can resume/continue at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Notability of various medical journals - TexasAndroid ( talk) 16:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Obviously there's a problem with this article, but I'm not sure of the best way to handle it. Suggestions? -- Arcadian ( talk) 23:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
The discussion at abortion is getting no were. It deals with an editor attempting to use
WP:MEDRS to discount references that disagree with his opinion. I have started a discussion here
[26] Could use a couple more voices. Thanks.
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James, the Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources (medicine-related articles) is really intended to be a place to discuss improvements to Wikipedia:Reliable sources (medicine-related articles), and I don't think you're asking for MEDRS to be changed. Unfortunately, we don't have our own noticeboard like WP:RSN where we can ask for outside opinions on the reliability of medical sources. I understand your frustration at seeing your commendable efforts to find reliable sources stonewalled, but I'd ask you to be patient. It is possible that Nutriveg will understand the spirit and letter of MEDRS eventually. If not, I am fully prepared to open an WP:RfC/U on Nutriveg on the grounds of edit-warring, tendentious editing, and disruption of the process of finding consensus at Abortion; and if necessary seek sanctions such as a topic ban, if he does not show progress in moving towards collaborative editing. At present, he is making suggestions in talk for article text. That is productive and a sign of progress. The medical expertise of yourself and Mastcell is needed in arriving at the best form of words, so I hope you'll both feel able to contribute to that. Personally, I'm not inclined to suspend AGF with Nutriveg yet, as I think he is sincere in his intentions, but lacks the experience of collaborative editing that would make the work at Abortion far less unpleasant than it currently is. -- RexxS ( talk) 15:59, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Should this article title have a dash between the names? --- kilbad ( talk) 05:13, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Would someone be willing to take on letter "G" ? The section is fairly small, and I can send the login to anyone who might be interested. Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 06:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
I've written much of 1971 Iraq poison grain disaster. However, I know very little about the relevant medical terminology/understanding. Could someone (and no great knowledge is necessary) check I've got my facts right? I'm trying to avoid factual inaccuracies simply down to my lack of knowledge. Thanks. - Jarry1250 Humorous? Discuss. 14:44, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Superficial charm -- Penbat ( talk) 13:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
There is a dispute on the talk page of the gangrene article about the appropriateness of the images currently displayed in the article. Relevant discussion sections – older comments: Talk:Gangrene#Pictures..., Talk:Gangrene#Suggestion_for_pictures; current dispute: Talk:Gangrene#Image_hiding_dispute. Participants of the WikiProject are invited to contribute to the discussion. -- JN 466 18:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Can someone please review the recent changes made to these two articles, thanks. Verbal chat 20:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Greetings! I am pleased to announce the launch of Wiktionary:WikiProject Medicine on the Wikimedia Project's dictionary component, Wiktionary. We are gearing up to incorporate a world-class medical dictionary into the larger framework of Wiktionary, and would welcome any assistance or advice on the best practices for integrating Wikipedia and Wiktionary content. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:41, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
A guy from GlaxoSmithKline Maitri Shah, PharmD, GSK ( talk · contribs) wants to help edit Wikipedia articles, I've shortly answered his concerns about a specific product in Talk:Cervarix#Propose new section in Cervarix Article for Important Safety Information but maybe someone can give him a better welcome.-- Nutriveg ( talk) 13:38, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
A recent edit to this article restored content about a hypothesized etiology for depression, which I had deleted a few weeks back. It seems speculative and somewhat undue. But I'm no expert. Would anybody care to comment? Anthony ( talk) 07:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry. The section I'm referring to is entitled "Depression as a defense mechanism." Anthony ( talk) 10:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
See RFC following the discussion here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
There's a BLP mess at List of people affected by bipolar disorder, that needs to be checked for WP:MEDRS. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
For some reason, we seem to have two separate articles at the titles anterolateral sulcus and antero-lateral sulcus, describing the exact same thing. Could somebody who's familiar with the topic please clarify which one should actually be regarded as the correct spelling, so that the articles can be merged and redirected appropriately? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 19:13, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I want to include the following template in the list of cutaneous conditions. However, where specifically within the document should I include the template? Feel free to add it if you know. --- kilbad ( talk) 02:23, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I have been working on binge drinking for the past week or so but a number of issues remain. It would be nice if a volunteer or 2 could help and improve the article; the eyes and comments from medical professionals would be good just to make sure that I have not made any errors or left out important facts etc; it also needs work on layout, flow and other WP:MEDMOS issues need fixed. At a later date I might try and get it to GA but think I would need a helping hand or two to do that. I read through every review from 2000 - 2010 to build up the article, which previously only had an epidemiological section (which is still a mess), so health effects are well sourced and not much pubmed work needs doing. The article subject is considered a major public health issue, lots of adverse social and medical consequences, for example regular heavy binge drinking may induce brain damage more quickly than alcoholism (due to frequent repeated acute withdrawal/rebound states-via a kindling mechanism and excito-neurotoxicity), adolescents and young adults make up most binge drinkers and are more sensitive to alcohol related neurotoxicity, also strongly associated with violent crime and vandalism, suicide and quadruples risk of alcoholism etc etc. As it is a topic which affects so many people in most western countries especially parents of adolescents and professionals who work with adolescents the article should be in better shape. One idea I have is redundant paragraphs might be worth moving to alcohol abuse under a subsection of binge drinking, which needs a section on binge drinking.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 21:43, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Another issue that requires attention is that there are a couple of red links to medical cardiological terms which may need to be turned into redirects or new articles created. and the epidemiological section needs a lot of work. Any help appreciated.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 22:11, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi there,
I'd be grateful for any help developing The Lazarus Effect (film) - it's a documentary, to raise awareness of AIDS in Africa. Lots of sources now (and more each day) gnews, etc. Help please? Chzz ► 05:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I am mildly annoyed by someone adding citations of a certain "Walid M.S." all over English as well as a few other language wikipedias. As far as I can tell at least 99% are added by IPs from Macon/GA, not surprisingly the place where one of the authors work.
As far as I can see it is not outright vandalism but undoubtedly in many cases there might be better sources and in the past there were a few edits that did fit badly into the structure of the article, in other cases the citations were just attached to halfway fitting text without touching the article at all.
For a few examples see Special:Contributions/70.184.4.10, however to get the whole picture it is necessary to search "Walid MS" in all subprojects.
I am wondering if anyone else noticed? What is the way to deal with it? Richiez ( talk) 20:13, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello there,
I have removed an edit
here from
Eczema as it appeared to me to breach guidelines on medical advice in that it decribed how to make, and use, an "Indian ayurvedic" Eczema treatment. It was also totally unsourced. I have advised the editor of my action and suggested that WikiBooks may be a better venue for this information. Hope this is the correct course to take. Regards,
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The Journal of Medical Internet Research has recently started an Open Peer Review process in which any registered user can review articles which have been submitted for consideration for publication. Top of the List at http://www.jmir.org/reviewer/openReview/abstracts is a submitted manuscript "Wikipedia as a global tool for public health promotion". Those with expert knowledge of this area on wikipedia may wish to contribute.— Rod talk 13:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I have no idea what this is, whether it is notable or even real, but I didn't want it to just slip between the cracks. Could someone check it is all okay? S.G.(GH) ping! 14:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
The related Category:Osteopathic medicine has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming . You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. |
Should the two categories " Osteopathy" and " Osteopathic medicine" be merged? Or should one of them be renamed? More eyes on this discussion would be appreciated. Gabbe ( talk) 08:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Can you all help me find another dermatologist to assist on Wikipedia? Does anyone have a dermatologist friend or colleague they can ask to help us? I am working to find someone here in Chicago, but it's been a tough sell, as most people want to pad the resume with other work instead. --- kilbad ( talk) 00:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
I wanted to know if there is an automated way to do the following. I want to search high-yield dermatology-related keywords for review articles in pubmed, things like psoriasis/ contact dermatitis/ urticaria/etc, basically any terms in the list of cutaneous conditions, and then I want to extract any available author e-mail addresses from those pubmed entries. I will then use those e-mail addresses to solicit authors to help on Wikipedia. Would someone be willing to help me with this? --- kilbad ( talk) 02:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
(outdent) I think that this is a good idea. It is possible that some authors may be annoyed at being asked but I think most would view it as a compliment (depending on how the email is worded). I think that the worst that could happen is that the emails will be ignored or most that reply will say they are too busy but the bonus is that a few new wikipedians will join the project. Scray, yes many of the authors will have strongly held beliefs on the topics that they edit but does that not describe about half of wikipedian community? :) Dermatology I don't think is a controversial area of medicine, it is pretty routine laboratory testing of skin and treatments (a bit more complicated than that but you know what I mean) etc and being peer reviewed published and likely dermatologists they would presumably be pushing a mainstream POV. Any interested parties could be given via a follow-up email the 5 core policies of editing wikipedia and will likely also get a welcome template soon after joining like other newbies.--
Literaturegeek |
T@1k? 21:07, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm. I just read Garrondo's comment and now I am thinking maybe my post in support was premature. I had not thought of the need of contacting the foundation and the effort possibly being viewed as spamming. I struck my above comment. If the email is sent by an individual rather than an official wikipedia foundation effort and not a project effort, then perhaps it is outside the scope of the foundation, ie because the email will not be representing the foundation?-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 21:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
As another established corresponding author in the biomedical literature, I agree with Scray's first point, above. To quote Scray, "This is certainly your prerogative, but (as an established corresponding author in the biomedical literature) I think you should be cognizant of some issues. First, prospective editors recruited from such sources will need some orientation on neutrality, because they almost certainly will have strongly-held views on the topics for which you recruit them. They should also try to avoid directly editing content that relates to (or cites) their own published work to avoid WP:COI - they should probably restrict themselves to making suggestions on the relevant Talk page." Postpostmod ( talk) 13:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I have a friend whose business is setting up RCTs who has developed a physiological hypotheses about the digestive system. Obviously not suitable for Wikipedia but I wondered if anybody knew of a website or blog where hypotheses can be published and discussed. I note the Medical Hypotheses Journal appears to be in the process of committing suicide so I wondered if there were any other forum? Fainites barley scribs 20:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone else look at Helminthic therapy and think it's perhaps written a little too much like a cheerleader? I tried looking on pubmed for info and review articles, but couldn't find any (you get a lot of links to treatments for parasitic infections). Looks very much like it's written by true-believer patients, but there's enough science in it to make me wonder. Anyone interested? WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 14:23, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
BBC quoted WP's definition of hysteria, in describing collective English belief that we can ever possibly win the football world cup. Might create a small flurry of hysterically depressed English readers wondering what they are suffering from. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8768122.stm David Ruben Talk 13:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I have nominated Tooth enamel for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.-- Cirt ( talk) 01:44, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I have posted a bibliography of Intelligence Citations for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues, some of which I see are in the scope of this WikiProject on medicine. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in those issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research and to suggest new sources to me by comments on that page. I am especially eager to learn about up-to-date sources on human cognitive testing from a medical perspective. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 18:56, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Can someone tell me the difference between Medroxyprogesterone and Medroxyprogesterone 17-acetate? One is a progestin, one is a pregnane, does that mean MPA is converted to progesterone in the body? Sources seem to use the two interchangeably as far as I can tell ( [30]).
Cross-posted to WP:DRUGS talk page, feel free to shut this one down if the answer is better found over there. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 00:55, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Discussion copied to RD/S
If you're talking about administering medroxyprogesterone as a pharmaceutical, then you're technically talking about MP acetate. If you're talking about steroid biochemistry in vivo, then it's more correct to refer to medroxyprogesterone, period. I'm not sure what implications this has for our article structure (and this is just me talking - it's been awhile since I took pharmacology, and I don't have a supporting source at my fingertips, so take it with a grain of salt because I have been known to be wrong). MastCell Talk 03:58, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Hope you all (especially MastCell) don't mind that I copied the collapsed section above to RD/S, for the reasons given by Axl above. -- Scray ( talk) 05:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
While browsing I came across this article Dorb the Chemist, Inc., does this belong in your scope? If so, please do the necessary actions.-- Iankap99 ( talk) 04:30, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
a new article in J Am Med Inform Assoc. zooms in on the Osteosarcoma article:
Anyone with fulltext access able to comment?
Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 15:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Table 1. Osteosarcoma questionnaire presenting the points for each answer for each of the three different websites: (1) the English version of Wikipedia on osteosarcoma; (2) the patient version of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) website; and (3) the health professional version of the NCI website (from Leithner et al. PMID 20595302) | No | Question | Wikipedia | NCI patient | NCI professional |
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1 | What is the incidence of osteosarcoma per 100 inhabitants? | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
2 | Should a biopsy be performed? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
3 | What is a biopsy? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
4 | Name three helpful chemotherapeutic agents | 3 | 0 | 3 | |
5 | Should radiotherapy normally be applied? | 0 | 0 | 3 | |
6 | What kind of surgery should be performed? (margins) | 0 | 3 | 3 | |
7 | Are amputations necessary in a large number of cases? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
8 | What does staging imply? | 0 | 2 | 3 | |
9 | Is a follow-up necessary? If yes, name 2 diagnostic procedures | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
10 | What is the 5 or 10-y prognosis? | 3 | 0 | 2 | |
11 | Prognosis depends on several factors, name 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
12 | Which age group is most affected? | 2 | 3 | 3 | |
13 | Might metastases occur? If yes, what are metastases? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
14 | Name three histological subtypes | 0 | 0 | 3 | |
15 | What symptoms might indicate the presence of a bone tumor (name 2) | 3 | 3 | 1 | |
16 | What is the main localization of osteosarcoma? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
17 | What late effects are possible after successful treatment? (name 3) | 2 | 3 | 1 | |
18 | Do you find web-links to study centers (EURAMOS)? | 0 | 2 | 2 | |
19 | What are clinical trials? | 0 | 3 | 3 | |
20 | How can you find clinical trials in your area? | 1 | 3 | 3 | |
Total | 33 | 40 | 50 |
Hope this is the right place to ask this. The page on Fuch's endothelial dystrophy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuchs'_dystrophy contains this =
"Anecdotally, botulinum toxin type A given to the periocular tissues for a patient with blepharospasm and hemifacial spasm resulted in dramatic and immediate improvement in vision, lasting about 2–3 months after each quarterly treatment."
It is totally unclear to me why this is in this page. I have never heard of either spasm being associated with Fuch's and nowhere else on the page are they mentioned.
Trudyjh ( talk) 21:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
There is a merge tag on T1 relaxography and Spin-lattice relaxation time. First, I believe the subjects are in this project's realm. Second, I believe the merge should be done but it is beyond my expertise. Someone in this project should be able to do it. Best regards. -- Muhandes ( talk) 19:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be a WikiProject or Taskforce Gynaecology, so I'm posting this here. There is an edit-war bioidentical hormone replacement therapy vs. "synthetic" hormones at Talk:Medroxyprogesterone. Some eyes and hands would be really appreciated. Thanks -- ἀνυπόδητος ( talk) 07:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi. It has been brought to my attention that this page is in a rather poor state. I would have thought it would have included personal (home) medical software, GP knowledge-base software (such as SOPHIE (sp?)), a link at least and summary of the (disastrous) UK NHS IT program, etc. Lots of mainstream and medical press articles have been written about software and how it can improve (or not!) medical practice, and this should be covered here. I think this article is ripe for improvement from people with the knowledge and the correct references. Best, Verbal chat 09:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
I had a pleasant conversation with some more experienced editors than I on a user talk page about websites that guide readers on how to interpret primary research findings. One such site is the personal site of Google Director of Research Peter Norvig, including the article Warning Signs in Experimental Design and Interpretation. That article links to both primary and secondary sources that help Wikipedians distinguish reliable publications from unreliable publications for medicine-related articles. Another interesting site is Science-Based Medicine, a blog that today just happens to have an article on Reliability of Health Information on the Web, sure to be of interest to editors here. I try to link to sites like these in article talk pages so as to encourage Wikipedians to set high standards for sources as they edit medicine-related articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 15:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
In case anyone has time to look: Talk:Trichotillomania#Decoupling. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, everyone. I'm proposing to reorganise the categorisation of hormones, to account for the sheer number of them and so that the categories are more distinct from each other. Looking for input! - Richard Cavell ( talk) 02:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Acording to this source, atherosclerosis should be renamed to atherothrombosis, unless I misread the source. I stumbled across this issue when creating a redirect for atherothrombosis and trying to figure out what to redirect to.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 23:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Your thoughts on this proposal for encouraging readers to edit would be appreciated. I'd be particularly interested in suggestions regarding the mini-tutorial (how to edit a bio-med article). Anthony ( talk) 22:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Kallimachus; I have incorporated it. Anthony ( talk) 19:04, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Just a note to tell you what you already know: Encyclopedia articles don't normally include current retail prices for drugs. Someone kindly notified WPPHARM about this 2006 addition to an article about an antifungal medication, which is inappropriate. If you ever run across anything similar, please feel free to remove it.
(Other measures of price, like the average wholesale price or the AFRO Essential Medicines Price indicator, might be appropriate and encyclopedic information, if the cost is discussed by significant sources, but the retail price in a single country is not.) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 16:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Please consider participating in the Medicine Collaboration of the Month. Nominations and voting for the August 2010 collaboration are now underway. Craig Hicks ( talk) 19:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I saw a request to check Anti-Inflammation Diet at WT:WikiProject Health and fitness] which is a fairly moribund project/. It has lots of medical looking terms so posting it here as more likely to find someone competent to look at it. Dmcq ( talk) 23:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I see at the bottom of the journal's main page that they are using a CC license. Does this mean I can use photos from their journal on Wikipedia? --- kilbad ( talk) 17:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
So I saw this image, File:Chronic_skin_lesions_of_EPP.jpg, and that it was from http://www.biomedcentral.com. So my question is, can I use photos from http://www.biomedcentral.com/bmcdermatol/ on Wikipedia? --- kilbad ( talk) 22:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi I'm trying to de-orphan this article Enterostatin while at the same time build up content from references (heaps of good references can be found on google). This is not my field of expertise, but I think it is about using a drug to help with weight loss. Any suggestions for articles that might be suitable to link to would be helpful. Thanks Blackash have a chat 12:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I'm James, a soon-to-be fourth year medical student at Keele University in the UK. I've just finished doing an audit at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire, and the project has got me thinking. Wikipedia is still treated as being the devil's spawn by most of the faculty at my medical school, and I'd like to prove them wrong. I was wondering if anyone would be interested to carrying out a research project, with the aim to publish a paper at the end of it, examining Wikipedia's articles for breadth and accuracy in comparison to more traditional sources? If anyone's interested, do please let me know! Colds7ream ( talk) 09:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I am currently working to expand, improve, and clean up the pulmonology article. This article has been in disrepair for quite some time and I am working to make it more than a list of concepts. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Tyrol5 [Talk] 19:40, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
I want to cite chapters 1 and 2 in the following citation. How do I best do that? See List_of_cutaneous_conditions#cite_note-isbn0-7817-7363-6-18. --- kilbad ( talk) 17:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
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WhatamIdoing (
talk) 21:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)WP:WikiProject Medicine/Google Project has identified the next dozen in significant need of help:
If you're interested, please jump in. Even ten minutes' effort can help a lot, and this project multiplies your efforts out to several Wikipedias around the world. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 21:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I tried to correct the cerebral cortex types nav box as it wasn't quite right (e.g. allocortex was redirecting to neocortex), but when I got into it it was more complicated than I thought. I've had a go, but does anyone have any thoughts on it? Keepstherainoff ( talk) 15:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
There's actually a rather interesting point (involving a specific criticism of the Cochrane Collaboration) raised on talk:low level laser therapy. If anyone feels like venturing a viewpoint, it's actually somewhat intriguing.
There's also a much less interesting comment about MEDRS in general and two low-n primary sources in particular. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 22:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I was asked to post here in regards to a DYK nom I submitted, DirectHit, it's currently in Prep. Two of the sources need checking and I was told to come here. Thanks in advance. Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 03:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I would just like to point out some of the recognition that we get in the published literature:
I am cataloging the literature on Wikipedia and medicine both good and bad here. If people wish to add anything I have missed feel free to join in. Once again congratulations to all involved! And remember what we do matters :-) Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 05:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Saying a discussion is off-topic doesn't excuse it. WP is not a chat room. -- Scray ( talk) 03:40, 24 July 2010 (UTC) |
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This seems like a good community to ask this off-topic question. Have any of you seen a really good personal website for a doctor? I recently bought a domain name and would like to host my own personal dermatology page, and am trying to come up with a simple and good looking design. I have been looking around the web, but it seems that dermatologists are really bad at website design. Have any of you seen any really good personal physician websites? Would you post the link here? Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 22:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, my name is Maitri Shah, PharmD, and I work for GlaxoSmithKline Pharmaceuticals (GSK) in the United States as a Medical Information Scientist. My intent is to provide information to the editors of Wikipedia for their use in Cervarix related articles to help ensure that healthcare professionals in the United States receive accurate and balanced scientific information. I would like to propose that a new section be added to the Cervarix article that includes the important safety information for Cervarix. I have added my proposal to the Cervarix Talk Page. I have released the content under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License, this is evident on the talk page as well. I think that it is important to add important safety information to ensure that the reader receives a balanced view of Cervarix. All of the pharmaceutical product articles that I have read on Wikipedia with ratings of “B and GA” (e.g. Atorvastatin and Warfarin) in the WikiProject Medicine Quality scale include safety related information. Maitri Shah, PharmD, GSK ( talk) 14:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Just to notify, I've merged the tetanized state to tetanic contraction. A merge warning was on since late 2009 and they were indeed the same thing. Rudolf Hellmuth ( talk) 02:45, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Would someone help me by putting the images from this open access article on Wikipedia/Commons? See http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/gen.php?file=103TODJ.pdf&PHPSESSID=8e86837496fa7fbd75b6251fa687634b. Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 15:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- All articles are, for you to read, download, copy, distribute, deposit in digital repositories and use (with attribution) any way you wish. No permission is required for distribution, copying or commercial use of published articles.
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The EMDR article is rife with NPOV problems. Since early May I've tried get editors to apply WP:MEDRS to resolve these problems with no success. Anyone able to help with what may become a rewrite of much of the article? -- Ronz ( talk) 16:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Croup was nominated for Good article status last month. It is a short article, but well-sourced and appears to me to meet the actual GA criteria. Other comments (and assistance in fixing the three problems I've identified) are welcome on its talk page.
Other Good article nominees related to WPMED are:
The Good article folks seem to be having a bit of a backlog problem overall, but WPMED is within sight of being caught up. If you've never reviewed an article for WP:GA status before, it's not difficult. There are six straightforward criteria, and you don't have to bother with the kind of fiddly details (or endless discussions with overly picky editors) that can bedevil FA nominations. A good review is a bit like a focused peer review. I encourage you to give it a try. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 06:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
We are having a discussion about how to best summarize the research on TM. Wondering if people would be so kind as to weight in here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#AHRQ_and_Transcendental_Meditation. It has to do with WP:MEDRS as well as the usage of studies done by people associated with the TM movement. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 21:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I've recently been doing some work on hereditary hemorrhagic telangiectasia. Now this is a condition that I don't normally treat personally, so I'd be delighted if you all could have a look at the result and leave comments on the talkpage before I submit this to WP:GAC. Thanks to User:Jmh649 and User:Kilbad for some recent advice. JFW | T@lk 20:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Denial of pregnancy is in the news this week (e.g., [37]. If anyone wants an easy task, expanding this four-sentence stub is probably a reasonable candidate. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 19:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Just noticed under Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine#Departments we have a Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Featured articles review department. Has this department been absorbed into the main FA system and is now historical ? Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 11:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I have come across a collection of creative commons images [38] that related to medicine. I think we can use them. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
(undent)They have released two high quality images from this collect to me under the CC2.0 license. Here is what they look like. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 11:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
User:Lb.at.wiki has noticed that the labelling in the image on the right is incorrect; see discussion at Talk:Kidney_transplantation#Erroneous picture. If anyone is willing to fix it that would be great, otherwise it will just go on the end of my ever-lengthening todo list. Adrian J. Hunter( talk• contribs) 14:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
This is sort of odd. This user is spamming the link to the List of pharmaceutical companies into every article conceivable. I'm not sure if there is some sort of weird motive for this or if he's just confused. It's been reverted in a few cases and reinserted. Any suggestions on what to do? SDY ( talk) 06:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Can people please look at Trans-umbilical breast augmentation - it is new; I'm wondering if it could be knocked into shape a bit within the next few days, so we can submit a WP:DYK. Thanks in anticipation, Chzz ► 16:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Greetings, friends,
This therapy is used very widely in China, Russia, and several other places; it's a mainstream therapy in these countries. For whatever reasons, it's not very well known in the US.
What we see with this article is that an editor keeps deleting the entire 'Further reading' section, which contains numerous valid peer-reviewed refs.
Here are these refs,
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help)There's no reason IMHO that these peer-reviewed articles cannot be used for Further reading. Especially this,
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help)which is a recent meta-review. (The reason for deleting it, as given, seems rather specious.)
My next concern is about the apparent ethnocentrism that I believe is apparent in the behaviour of User:WLU.
Wikipedia does not belong to USA alone. This is an international encyclopedia. The fact is that this treatment is used by millions of people outside the US (often being a mainstream treatment, actually), and I believe Wikipedia should reflect this. What is the current Wikipedia policy in this area, I wonder?
The research in this area has been conducted primarily in non-English speaking countries, and there's a huge amount of published research in Chinese, for example. But WLU keeps deleting all that.
And, finally, at this time we have a new editor ( User:Qudore) who actually knows something about this therapy (i.e. practical experience), and is trying to contribute to the article. But, by the looks of it, I'm afraid he won't be sticking around much longer, considering how he's being treated by WLU. Is it really to the advantage of Wikipedia to drive away knowledgeable and credentialed people from editing articles in their area of expertise? I wonder...
So I'm bringing these concerns here in the hope of receiving some good guidance in these areas.
Regards, -- Dyuku ( talk) 16:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
I tried to start a bit of cleanup of the article Gerovital, but I'm not really that knowledgeable in this area. It is in real need of someone with medical knowledge. If anyone could lend a hand, that would be helpful. Thanks. Deli nk ( talk) 11:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Herbert L. Fred, MD and Hendrik A. van Dijk are considering donating a bunch of high quality images to Wikimedia. These are two that they have given me which I have added to Superior vena cava syndrome. I am wanting to put them side by side in the infobox. Anyway we can get double image to work here? I wish to show them how their content will be used. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 11:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Are they donating any derm-related images. Again, keep me posted, and I would be happy to include them in the appropriate articles and lists. --- kilbad ( talk) 17:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
There are a number of conditions in the family of lichen planus, a type of violaceous and itchy skin rash. A complete listing is available at List_of_cutaneous_conditions#Lichenoid_eruptions. With that being, I wanted to know if someone would help get more quality, high resolution images of some of these conditions? --- kilbad ( talk) 14:17, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
The medical navigation templates {{ Psych navs}} and {{ Central nervous system navs}} are totally messed up when displayed on my screen. Could somebody please look at these. Many thanks, HairyWombat 18:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
I first encountered them as part of {{ SleepSeries2}} (at the bottom of the article Mattress). However, they always display screwed up to me, whether viewed there, as part of {{ Pervasive developmental disorders}}, as part of {{ CNS diseases of the nervous system}}, or on their own. HairyWombat 13:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
There's a discussion you might be interested in about how to incorporate and how (or if) to attribute a medical source which concluded that "the risks of spinal manipulation to the neck by far outweigh the benefits". It is currently the final sentence of the article's introduction. Familiarity with WP:NPOV, WP:ASF, WP:MEDRS, and WP:MEDASSESS would be helpful. Thanks! Ocaasi ( talk) 09:44, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
This article is a mess. I intend to work on it in a couple of days, but if anyone feels like doing some rough cleanup work, it would certainly make things easier :) (will cross-post to WT:PHARM) Fvasconcellos ( t· c) 21:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Two new articles that might need some assistance from editors with medical knowledge: Admittance and Conductance in cardiac performance and Pressure-Volume Loop Analysis in Cardiology. Deli nk ( talk) 19:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Currently there is mastitis which most people consider a synonym for puerperal mastitis. While puerperal mastitis was originally intended to be the main page for that editors were adding their stuff to mastitis instead so we now have essentially 2 pages dealing with puerperal mastitis and plenty of wasted effort if that continues. So another reorganisation seem unavoidable, I see this options:
I have zero experience with merging and such stuff so I would welcome any opinions and help. Richiez ( talk) 15:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Richiez ( talk) 16:21, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Does not seem to get much response.. I will start doing it soon. Richiez ( talk) 23:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd like anyone searching Wikipedia for "depression" to find useful stuff by the most direct route. A while ago I stumbled across Depression (mood) when it consisted of a fairly unfocused discussion of some of the psychiatric disorders featuring depressive symptoms and some speculation about the adaptiveness of depressive symptoms. [39] So after discussion with Casliber [40] I cut it down to a list of signs and symptoms, with links to Mood disorder, Adjustment disorder and Borderline personality disorder. [41]
The article has recently been reviewed by BSW-RMH as part of the Google.org project, and I've incorporated some of their suggestions. [42]
Also recently 7mike5000 (talk) has created Depression (differential diagnoses), a page discussing "physical" illnesses that produce depressive symptoms.
Could some knowledgeable med editors please look at this pathway and see if there are any delays, misdirections or roadblocks for readers looking for information about depression? I guess it starts with Depression (the disambiguation page). Anthony ( talk) 13:25, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
(copypasted from User talk:SandyGeorgia)
I have to concur with your concern. I've argued in the past that we need to automate the process of checking pubmed records for "Publication Type" fields and reflecting their values in our citation templates. Right now, I think that it is simply too handraulic for the few editors on medical topics to keep up with. Perhaps
user:Citation bot could be brought to bear on the problem of doing the checks, but we would need some agreement on how to indicate citations of primary sources. My recent pattern has been to simply insert "(primary source)" before the closing /ref tag, but that's rather a work-around instead of fixing the templates. How would you feel about adding a |pubtype=
to {{
cite journal}}?
LeadSongDog
come howl! 19:01, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
(continuing)
The problem is that many people who add content containing primary research do not use the template fillers. Patrolling new additions is something we all hate (especially on controversial topics like the Zamboni zone in the MS article) but it is crucial to maintain the integrity of the encyclopedia. JFW | T@lk 19:51, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
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Just a note to say that I've just passed Croup for WP:Good article status. (Congratulations to Doc James and other editors.)
It sometimes seems like we report lots of problems here, but not really anything good -- and yet, somehow, when I look at my watchlist, I see useful things being done all the time. For example, I saw some badly sourced information being removed earlier today, there are a couple of civil conversations at some of our most important articles that look like they're going to be productive, BSW-RMH is doing wonders with the reviews for the Google Project (which needs your help, of course, because a review on a talk page doesn't fix the article), I notice that Looie496 has taken on the oldest of the medicine-related GA nominations, and I see that JFW has yet another article nominated for GA that looks "practically perfect in every way". And there's doubtless a lot of good work being done that I haven't noticed, too.
So let me say that it's great to work with this low-drama, high-productivity, very experienced group of editors, and that if you see good work being done, or if you did something that you enjoyed, please feel free to post about that, even when it feels a bit like you're tooting your own horn or embarrassing your friends by calling attention to their normally excellent work. We need to hear about problems so we can help you solve them, but we also need to know about your successes, too, so we can help you rejoice with them. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 22:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Reminded me of an older idea of me: each citation should have an own page, such as {{cite pmid|...}} already have.
The interesting part is we can be tremendously creative in what can be done with such thing. My idea was the page-top would have the filled out template as it has now and the rest could be used for many interesting things such as assessment of the source(mark known crap:), comments, citation web links, explanatory notes, short text citations where the source is not easily or freely available. Of course the pages also have "what links there", a talk page and similar already now. Richiez ( talk) 08:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
I have a big problem with citations being kept off page. This means you cannot at a glance identify the name and journal of the source, which can lead to terrible confusion if you need to cite several sources several times. I much support keeping the references close to the text.
What I would support is {{ cite pmid}} that automatically expands (with the help of a bot) into a full reference. JFW | T@lk 16:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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harv in order to address this wish, though it diverges significantly from the
Vancouver style. Re JFW's comment, what if citation bot were to subst the template some time after expanding it? That would (I think) avoid the reformatting problem and the problem of content buried on unwatched template-space subpages.
LeadSongDog
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I added some secondary review full-text sources to claudication, and did a bit or reorganization to help distinguish neurogenic and vascular. Some of the wording was pre-existing and uncited. Could one of the docs check and expand on my work? Some mention of the differential diagnosis when numbness vs. pain is present would be helpful. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 19:56, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
How do I cite Cochrane reviews (is there a template)? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
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But what is pink and scares an orthopood? JFW | T@lk 19:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Could others please have a look? We've got uncited original research text being added, incorrect tags, and a likely IP sock violating 3RR. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 13:08, 14 August 2010 (UTC
Hi. I rewrote Anismus a bit, adding new references (PMID's). Someone reverted all my work. Would someone here please review? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.43.31 ( talk) 16:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge Depression (differential diagnoses) into Depression (mood) - discuss at Talk:Depression_(mood)#Merge_discussion. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 21:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
If anyone is interested, there is a discussion about whether B6 is a meaningful treatment for autism at Talk:Autism therapies#Rimland review re vitamin B6. Two sources from 2002 are positive, while a Cochrane Review and an article from the Annals of clinical psychiatry (both 2009) are less enthusiastic. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 14:13, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I was doing some work on Vitex agnus-castus when I realised that the article tries to cover 3 fairly distinct domains: Botanical description etc, traditional herbal use, and use in modern medicin.
The sources on modern medical usage are good enough that I am tempted to split the article and create something like Vitex medication. Does that sound like a good idea or should I keep stuffing everything into one article? Are there other examples?
In Germany it has the status of a prescription free "apothekenpflichtig" (available in pharmacies only) medication with standartised extracts manufactured by several companies. I have fairly good overview of clinical and research aspectss but little knowledge about classical herbal stuff.
What name would I choose for such an article? Richiez ( talk) 14:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
What about adding templates like dopaminergics and melatonergics to the article? At least the dopaminergic effects are well establishd but I have not such a good feeling about doing that because what does this template then apply to? A particular extract, a plant? Richiez ( talk) 17:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I think the redirect is wrong. Although this type of lymphoma is associated frequently with Waldenström's macroglobulinemia, these two pathological entities are not interchangeable. The term Waldenström's macroglobulinemia identifies a hyperviscosity syndrome due to secretion of large amounts of monoclonal IgM. Therefore, this syndrome identifies alteration of a blood parameter and its consequences, but not its origin, which can be manifold. Instead, the term lymphoplasmacytic lymphoma identifies pathological entity, characterized by a tumor mass with typical histological changes and not always results in a Waldenström's macroglobulinemia. Sorry for my bad English. Have a nice day! :D -- Ceccomaster ( talk) 16:59, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I've never encountered this "focused" vs. "automatic" classification: if anyone has access to the full text of PMID 15121993 , could they verify this text just added?
Trichotillomania is also subdivided into "automatic" versus "focused" hair pulling. Trichotillomania is often not a focused act, but rather hair pulling occurs in a "trance-like" state. [2] This "automatic" pulling occurs in approximately three-quarters of patients with trichotillomania. [3] Environment is a large factor which affects hair pulling. [2] Sedentary activities such as being in a relaxed environment are conducive to hair pulling. [2] [4] A common example of a sedentary activity promoting hair pulling is lying in a bed while trying to rest or fall asleep. [2] An extreme example of automatic TTM is found when some patients have been observed to pull their hair out while asleep. [2] Children are more often in the automatic, or subconscious, subtype and may not consciously remember pulling their hair. Other individuals may have focused, or conscious, rituals associated with hair pulling, including seeking specific types of hairs to pull, pulling until the hair feels "just right", or pulling in response to a specific sensation.
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I've been thinking about the RFA drought, and the negative effects that this has on our own work. (For example, I've got a list of pages that need to be moved to their correct titles.) Special:ListUsers shows me that several good editors here (e.g., Garrondo, LeadSongDog, RexxS, Leevanjackson) also don't have various editor privs (e.g., autopatroller, rollback, or reviewer) set. I suspect that the hassle of requesting these things is the biggest reason.
I know that some editors aren't interested in an RFA, so here's something easy and quick that any new-page-creating editor can do in less than five minutes. For those of us who create an occasional article, it's not so helpful, but if you fairly often create new articles (and if you've been around a while, you may not realize how many you've created), please consider this:
New pages normally end up in Special:NewPages, where volunteers attempt to look over each one of them. People who have a demonstrated track record of creating lots of pages (that don't end up getting deleted) can help reduce the New Page Patrol's workload by requesting this bit. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 23:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Milia is plural for Milium. Given our current naming conventions, should the article be moved to something like Milium_(disease)? ---- kilbad ( talk) 20:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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I see on alexa.com that Wikipedia is ranked at #6. Are there any other references, perhaps from a scientific journal, etc., available that I can site relative rank of Wikipedia among other top websites? I would prefer to cite something other than alexa if possible. --- kilbad ( talk) 15:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to find the number of new pages created within a certain time frame which are within the scope of a particular project. Restated, and more specifically, if I wanted to know how many new dermatology-related articles had been created since Nov 08, how could I find that out? Could I use the derm assessment data somehow? --- kilbad ( talk) 19:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I have made a number of suggestion to improving our collaboration with google Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Google Project. Comments would be appreciated. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 06:19, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Good point, WAID. I was wondering about where this project is occurring. I keep seeing references to it but no actual messages between WP editors and the Google folks (who, incidentally, mostly (or all?) seem to work for a journal article editing company in North Carolina called American Journal Experts. Isn't this a bit odd? Postpostmod ( talk) 00:21, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Initially, the list of cutaneous condition was found at a different location than it is now. Initially, the list was found at what is now called "cutaneous conditions." However, after various moves and renames, the list if now at "list of cutaneous conditions." However, the history of the list is fractured, and I wanted to know if someone could tidy up the histories somehow? If that is even possible? Basically, I would like to see the history of edits starting from here to here moved over to the beginning of the history of the list of cutaneous conditions. Is that possible? I just want to be able to track the history of the development of the list in one place. --- kilbad ( talk) 17:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniosacral_therapy#The_primary_respiratory_mechanism
This has been tagged for some time and needs to be brought up to MEDRS standards. -- Brangifer ( talk) 23:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
First, for pages within the scope of the Dermatology task force, I am looking to get a listing of articles that are either good or featured status, and the date at which they were given that status. Second, I am looking for some data stating how many derm-related pages have images, and how many do not. Could someone help me with this? Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 16:06, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
The script I worked up is at User:MastCell/dermimages.py, if anyone cares. The tricky thing is that a lot of pages have non-content images - that is, images from stub templates, maintenance templates, navigation templates, etc. I figure you don't want to count those, so I wrote a set of "excludable" images into the script. The set isn't complete - so I need to go through the output, find the non-content images, and add them by hand to the global exclude list in the script. That will make the count more accurate.
I realized halfway through that you're probably most interested in the raw number of pages without images, which isn't readily available from the output I created. I'll modify the script to total up the # of pages, # with zero images, # with 1 image, # with 2 images, etc... it will be easy, but I'll probably get to it tomorrow. In the meantime, the table of results can be sorted by # of images, but that's probably not a great workaround. MastCell Talk 03:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Someone just created a page for Virginia Livingston, and is using it as a transparent and inappropriate soapbox for her therapies being unjustly maligned, using medically unreliable sources, including extensive use of "personal communication". Any interested editors, I'll be culling and rewriting for a while, but review and input is welcome. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 22:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I have done some work on this topic which is now before arbcom. TM makes a number of health claims including improving BP, anxiety, and living forever. A member of Arbcom has concluded that the ongoing debates is "really about conflicting philosophies: on the one hand we have, for want of a better word, mysticism; on the other, rationalism." [8] Wondering if others could comment as this does pertain directly with our topic area. Thanks Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 00:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Could someone with experience in the area of anesthetics please have a look at the recent IP edits to isoflurane? They are presumably well-intentioned, but made by a someone whose native language is probably not English. Also, though this is not my area of expertise, I suspect there may be some over-interpretation of the cited references. ChemNerd ( talk) 11:43, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
User:BSW-RMH has posted a great review at Talk:Chagas_disease#External_review_comments. This featured article (from 2005) is in pretty good shape, but this list of improvements will give it a good update and correct a small number of inaccurate statements. One of the things I particularly appreciate in the review is that the recommendations are concrete, specific, and actionable -- like, 'This uses the 2002 numbers, and the 2004 stats can be found here', or 'This newer source might replace that older one'.
If you're looking for a way to help out, please consider picking an open item from the review (at the moment, look under "Management", "Epidemiology", and "References"), and helping us take advantage of this opportunity to correct and update this featured article. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
I've begun an article on Save the Children's State of the World's Mothers report. This year's report seems of particular relevance to upcoming events at the 36th G8 summit. I've just proposed a rather provocative T:DYK hook for it, which unfortunately seems to be true however preposterous it might sound:
I would welcome your insights. Mike Serfas ( talk) 02:18, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Wondering if we have any artists here who would be interested in creating illustrations a la Frank Netter? We could use one for Cushings syndrome such as this one [12] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 16:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
The WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons (UBLPs) aims to reduce the number of unreferenced biographical articles to under 30,000 by June 1, primarily by enabling WikiProjects to easily identify UBLP articles in their project's scope. There were over 52,000 unreferenced BLPs in January 2010 and this has been reduced to 32,665 as of May 16. A bot is now running daily to compile a list of all articles that are in both Category:All unreferenced BLPs and have been tagged by a WikiProject. Note that the bot does NOT place unreferenced tags or assign articles to projects - this has been done by others previously - it just compiles a list.
Your Project's list can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Unreferenced BLPs. As of May 17 you have approximately 23 articles to be referenced. The list of all other WikiProject UBLPs can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/WikiProjects.
Your assistance in reviewing and referencing these articles is greatly appreciated. If you have any questions, please don't hestitate to ask either at WT:URBLP or at my talk page. Thanks, The-Pope ( talk) 16:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I recently became involved in Simple English Wikipedia, and it has come to my attention that this Wikipedia has very few medical articles. Although I have written a few articles there, including hepatocellular carcinoma,this Wikipedia remains in great need of expanded medical coverage. I would encourage any editors involved in wikiproject medicine to help out there as well. Regards. Immunize ( talk) 17:59, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Wondering if this should be merged to silicosis? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 17:00, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Wondering if this page would best be served by merging it into
Systemic lupus erythematosus or turning it into a disambig? I have never heard the term use on it own without systemic or discoid in from and am unable to find a ref pertaining to it.
Doc James (
talk ·
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Anyway to generate how many hits the sum of all article pages in this project get? Thanks Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 01:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
We are having a discussion on whether or not heartburn should be used as a symptoms of burning in the chest (as in emergency medicine) or as a disease synonymous with
GERD a burning sensation in the chest due to reflux. (as in gastroenterology). Comments welcome
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Doc James (
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This image of the circuits of the basal ganglia is again put at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates after some improvements. In the first nomination, it didn't get enough votes, so your opinion is very appreciated. See Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Basal ganglia circuits (2nd nomination). Mikael Häggström ( talk) 05:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Month | Hits |
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July 2009 | 142,598,369 |
August 2009 | 147,795,383 |
September 2009 | 155,748,923 |
October 2009 | (Poor data )2,333,119 |
November 2009 | 156,086,120 |
December 2009 | 132,352,902 |
January 2010 | 127,366,430 |
February 2010 | 140,750,494 |
March 2010 | 162,087,808 |
April 2010 | 157,343,696 |
I have added our impact here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Popular pages. Wikipedia medicine is popular. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 02:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi. On its Talk page, I'm suggesting this article be merged with Mood disorder or deleted. Your input would be welcome. Anthony ( talk) 12:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the WikiProject covers this, well, FYI
the merging of the above has been proposed, see
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_May_22
70.29.210.155 ( talk) 04:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Another user has generated a list of untagged derm-related redirects. I wanted to know if someone could help tag these redirect talk pages with
{{WPMED|class=redirect|importance=|dermatology=yes}}
? Perhaps there is an automated way to do this? Thanks in advance for your help! --- kilbad ( talk) 02:16, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
So can someone help do this in an automated fashion? --- kilbad ( talk) 16:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I've been asked by Calmer Waters if I can run this. Just letting you know my response is here. Unless there are any complaints, I should be running this task shortly. - Kingpin 13 ( talk) 13:21, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Members of this project might benefit from What is in the Diseases Database? Diseases Database. -- Wavelength ( talk) 02:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Could someone please have a look at the requested move of Gene synthesis → Synthetic DNA (see Talk:Gene synthesis#Requested move)? I'm thinking of making additional changes to the article once the location is determined, but can't move it myself. Mikael Häggström ( talk) 11:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
I added what appears to be a legitimate source so that this new article would not be subject to the BLP PROD, but it could still use a lot of TLC from someone who knows how to develop articles about academics. Thanks! Active Banana ( talk) 20:17, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Bilateral cingulotomy seems to need reassessment. Substantial content was added two years ago, yet it's still flagged as a stub.-- Uanfala ( talk) 10:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Lokal just finished some more maps looking at number of deaths rather than DALYs if people want to add any. [14] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 15:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
See Template talk:WPMED#Requested move. – xeno talk 18:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to request outside input at Wilson's syndrome (note: distinct from Wilson's disease). This is a medically unrecognized entity. The article seems to be watched by me and by a handful of IPs/single-purpose accounts. Rather than participate further in a back-and-forth, I'd like to solicit some outside eyes. Any input would be welcome. The dispute revolves (IMO at least) around the repeated removal of reliable sources by the IP/single-purpose editors. MastCell Talk 20:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Could someone here take a look at the latest edit to this article please? I can't tell whether it's another vandalism edit or a valid addition. Thank you. -- Tom N (tcncv) talk/ contrib 00:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
There is a long anti-psychiatry rant in the Freedom of thought article under the section Canada. I think the article needs to be reworked and purged of the nonsense.
A small part of the section may be appropriate for the anti-psychiatry article; the idea that psychiatrists substantially limit freedom of thought is a point that could be discussed (and shown to be nonsense). Nephron T| C 02:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Wondering if we should move this to esophageal rupture as this is the term used by the ICD10 as medicine attempts to move away from peoples names. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 09:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I have spoken with Dr. T. Balasubramanian who has agree to release his images as CC BY SA. The atlas is here [16]. Do we have a page were we keep track of source of medical images which can be used on Wikipedia? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 19:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Also does anyone know the copyright status of the A.D.A.M. images? We use a bunch of them but they appear to be under copyright [17]. Images include [18], [19], [20], and ohers. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
The TNM cancer classification has recently been updated in this 2010 text: Edge, SB, Byrd, DR, Compton, CC, et al (Eds). AJCC (American Joint Committee on Cancer) Cancer Staging Manual, 7th ed, Springer, New York, 2010.
If anyone feels inspired.-- Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 06:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I have created a page here listing resources to help editors in this project: Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Resources. Wondering if we should list this at WP:MED and WP:MEDRS? -- Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 10:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Heartened by the influx of outside eyes and helpful input at Wilson's syndrome, I have another such request. There is currently a rather active discussion at Talk:Abortion about how to best present the health risks associated with abortion. Actually, it's basically 3 editors (one of them me) going around in circles, so I think more input would be useful. I'm asking here since a lot of the issues turn on WP:MEDRS and the appropriate representation of procedural risks. I will say upfront that I personally think that the interpretation of WP:MEDRS being pushed on the talk page is extreme and divergent from the actual content of the guideline. As one might imagine, it's a controversial topic and prone to agenda-driven editing, but all the more reason to ask for more outside eyes. So if anyone feels brave, any additional input would be welcome. MastCell Talk 20:29, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I ran across John D. Lambris while new page patrolling. It was copied exactly from the subject's website and tagged by Corenbot. I have removed the copyrighted portion and tried to work on it, but I don't really know anything about science/medicine and would be very grateful for an expert on the subject to pick this up. A Google News archive search yields several results. Help? PrincessofLlyr royal court 19:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
An editor has created medical articles that consist solely of tables: Fibrous lesions and Polyp table. I don't know what to make of them, as they lack leads or any other context. Types of myxomas was already redirected. Fences& Windows 00:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello fellow medics! Radiation (pain) should be a far bigger article IMHO.
Unfortunately I do not know enough about this subject and have exams coming up so haven't got much time.
Any improvements would be a big improvement for such an important article, please contribute if you can. Best regards, Captain n00dle \ Talk 22:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
A section in Pain would not be out of place. If no one else does, I'll get round to it soon. (I've just bought a bunch of pain textbooks.) Anthony ( talk) 05:26, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Looks like a synonym of referred pain. Should we just redirect? Anthony ( talk) 07:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Have rewritten croup and put it up for GAN. If anyone would be so obliging to review it. Thanks Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 03:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Very best regards: Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS ( talk) 20:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
What is up with the diberri template filler? --- kilbad ( talk) 14:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
but not very readable. FYI. -- Hordaland ( talk) 22:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
OUTDENT - Just for fun I'm checking readablility of " Acute myeloid leukemia" using the SMOG site & noting here some results.
An interesting comparison point: consent forms for medical treatment are generally required to be written at approximately an 8th-grade level, at least in my experience. Obviously there are ethicolegal reasons for that, but I wonder where our benchmark/"target" should be.
As another aside, I think that Wikipedia is substantially more "readable" in ways that don't translate easily to existing automated tools. Think about it - to adequately explain graft-vs.-host disease in a traditional written form, you'd first have to explain how bone marrow transplantation works, what a T cell is, how MHC-based allorecognition works, etc. Here, you can wikilink those terms, allowing readers to explore them at their own level of interest/sophistication/etc. Although I think we probably get dinged on "readability" for that approach. MastCell Talk 23:48, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
"After writing the above I read, very carefully, the Diagnosis section of Acute myeloid leukemia, and I couldn't see a reasonable way to lower the grade level on that section."
— Hordaland
Wondering what people think about removing the "Former featured articles" and "Did you know" section from the "Show case" section and replacing it with the total page views as found here Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Popular pages and a paragraph regarding the impact of health care information on Wikipedia? For example most medical student use us and nearly half of physicians in clinical practice. ( with refs of course ) This might make people more interested in participating. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 17:34, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
This Washington Post article might be of some interest to editors over here. The short version: "Good news: Wikipedia's cancer information is generally accurate. Bad news: It's hard to read." WTF? ( talk) 02:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
It was asked if the editing of Wikipedia could count as a continuing medical education for health care providers. I have sent the CFPC the following question to determine interest. Should we develop proposals to send to other organizations? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 17:53, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
(undent) Have received a response from the College of Family Physicians of Canada which looks hopeful.
I am responding to your query regarding credits for writing content for a medical Wikipedia.
I had this discussion with a group in the Department of Family and Community Medicine at the Universiy of Toronto a couple of years ago. I am not certain of the current status of their project. Writing content for a medical wikipedia would qualify for M2 credits on an hourly basis. If a physician did a literature review for this they could earn Mainpro C credits as a PEARLS exercise.
If you wish to discuss this further you may contact me at the coordinates below
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 19:48, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Whether this should be its own article I will leave up to someone else. However, how does the capitalization of the article's title look? --- kilbad ( talk) 19:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Should we have a separate article about this subject ?? MaenK.A. Talk 22:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I am reviewing Gout for GA status at Talk:Gout/GA1. Can anyone see information left out which should be in there? Any other comments welcome. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 14:05, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
The condition Nevus Psiloliparus is not a proper noun. Perhaps someone would consider moving it back to Nevus psiloliparus? --- kilbad ( talk) 21:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Would an admin please move Guinea Worm Disease to Guinea worm disease? We could also use some more medical admins? I would like to nominate User:Literaturegeek, User:Garrondo, User:RexxS, User:Mikael Häggström and User:Kilbad if they are interested... Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 15:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
(outdent) All those people are great (except for that literaturegeek person, hehe). Other people to consider for adminship are, User:Colin, User:Scray, User:WhatamIdoing.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 22:33, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I hadn't noticed an overly large delay in procedures requiring admin tools - or are the current admins being overworked? I've been content without the admin tools thus far, but if there is a need for more would consider helping out with the menial chores. I'm a fairly sporadic editor - sometimes get stuck right in - other times might go for weeks making only small edits, so it depends what areas you think need more support. I am assuming you mean pages moves ( as above ), maybe temporary page protection when a class is using the article!, are there any other areas you're thinking of ? Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 12:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I am planning some work on pneumothorax. I notice that the complication of tension pneumothorax has had its own article for a while. I'm not sure what the point in that might be, because every form of pneumothorax can be complicated by tension (not just a sucking chest wound), and hence I have requested a move. I have listed a number of references on Talk:Pneumothorax. JFW | T@lk 10:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
It appears they are going to appear on June 14th! They will be limited to 2000 and need to be applied by an admin. I think a lot of our currently semi protected pages would work well as flagged revisions and would be happy to keep an eye on suggested changes. Many of our articles related to sex, sexually transmitted diseases, and psychiatry which are often controversial I think would be well served. Any admins here thinking of applying this protection level? See here for more info [25] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 04:21, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I became aware of the edits of User:AlanAbery via an edit he made that dropped a page onto the Short Pages report. The user turned a redirect into a disambig, adding a link to a newly formed page on a medical journal. That page showed no obvious indications that the particular journal, Cytotherapy, was notable. Not being particularly knowledgeable about such journals, I dropped Notability and PrimarySources tags on it. As I often do, I glanced at the user's other contributions, and from there noticed that this user has created quite a few of these articles on medical journals. After similarly tagging several more, I realized that tagging dozens of such articles is likely not the best way to go about this.
So I'm here looking for assistance/advice as to what is the proper next step. It's quite possible that every one of these journals are notable by WP standards. But as the articles now stand, there's really no indication of such. If A7 applied to publications, they could conceivably be A7 deleted, given the lack of notability indications.
Are there specific notability criteria for publications and/or scientific journals? If so, where? - TexasAndroid ( talk) 15:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
The edits of these redirects and disambig pages are for the abbreviations of the medical journals, so that if someone types in the abbreviation of the journal, they will be able to find it. For example, if you go onto the page on Audiological Medicine (SUAM), you will see on the infobox on the right that the abbreviated title is "AUM". And on the publisher's (Informa's) website, you can see that this IS the abbreviated title of this. journal. [1] I hope that this helps. Let me know if there are still any problems. { talk} 16:58, 10 June 2010.
Good suggestion. I've done this. The discussion can resume/continue at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Notability of various medical journals - TexasAndroid ( talk) 16:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Obviously there's a problem with this article, but I'm not sure of the best way to handle it. Suggestions? -- Arcadian ( talk) 23:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
The discussion at abortion is getting no were. It deals with an editor attempting to use
WP:MEDRS to discount references that disagree with his opinion. I have started a discussion here
[26] Could use a couple more voices. Thanks.
Doc James (
talk ·
contribs ·
email) 03:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
James, the Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources (medicine-related articles) is really intended to be a place to discuss improvements to Wikipedia:Reliable sources (medicine-related articles), and I don't think you're asking for MEDRS to be changed. Unfortunately, we don't have our own noticeboard like WP:RSN where we can ask for outside opinions on the reliability of medical sources. I understand your frustration at seeing your commendable efforts to find reliable sources stonewalled, but I'd ask you to be patient. It is possible that Nutriveg will understand the spirit and letter of MEDRS eventually. If not, I am fully prepared to open an WP:RfC/U on Nutriveg on the grounds of edit-warring, tendentious editing, and disruption of the process of finding consensus at Abortion; and if necessary seek sanctions such as a topic ban, if he does not show progress in moving towards collaborative editing. At present, he is making suggestions in talk for article text. That is productive and a sign of progress. The medical expertise of yourself and Mastcell is needed in arriving at the best form of words, so I hope you'll both feel able to contribute to that. Personally, I'm not inclined to suspend AGF with Nutriveg yet, as I think he is sincere in his intentions, but lacks the experience of collaborative editing that would make the work at Abortion far less unpleasant than it currently is. -- RexxS ( talk) 15:59, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Should this article title have a dash between the names? --- kilbad ( talk) 05:13, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Would someone be willing to take on letter "G" ? The section is fairly small, and I can send the login to anyone who might be interested. Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 06:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
I've written much of 1971 Iraq poison grain disaster. However, I know very little about the relevant medical terminology/understanding. Could someone (and no great knowledge is necessary) check I've got my facts right? I'm trying to avoid factual inaccuracies simply down to my lack of knowledge. Thanks. - Jarry1250 Humorous? Discuss. 14:44, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Superficial charm -- Penbat ( talk) 13:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
There is a dispute on the talk page of the gangrene article about the appropriateness of the images currently displayed in the article. Relevant discussion sections – older comments: Talk:Gangrene#Pictures..., Talk:Gangrene#Suggestion_for_pictures; current dispute: Talk:Gangrene#Image_hiding_dispute. Participants of the WikiProject are invited to contribute to the discussion. -- JN 466 18:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Can someone please review the recent changes made to these two articles, thanks. Verbal chat 20:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Greetings! I am pleased to announce the launch of Wiktionary:WikiProject Medicine on the Wikimedia Project's dictionary component, Wiktionary. We are gearing up to incorporate a world-class medical dictionary into the larger framework of Wiktionary, and would welcome any assistance or advice on the best practices for integrating Wikipedia and Wiktionary content. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:41, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
A guy from GlaxoSmithKline Maitri Shah, PharmD, GSK ( talk · contribs) wants to help edit Wikipedia articles, I've shortly answered his concerns about a specific product in Talk:Cervarix#Propose new section in Cervarix Article for Important Safety Information but maybe someone can give him a better welcome.-- Nutriveg ( talk) 13:38, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
A recent edit to this article restored content about a hypothesized etiology for depression, which I had deleted a few weeks back. It seems speculative and somewhat undue. But I'm no expert. Would anybody care to comment? Anthony ( talk) 07:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry. The section I'm referring to is entitled "Depression as a defense mechanism." Anthony ( talk) 10:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
See RFC following the discussion here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
There's a BLP mess at List of people affected by bipolar disorder, that needs to be checked for WP:MEDRS. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
For some reason, we seem to have two separate articles at the titles anterolateral sulcus and antero-lateral sulcus, describing the exact same thing. Could somebody who's familiar with the topic please clarify which one should actually be regarded as the correct spelling, so that the articles can be merged and redirected appropriately? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 19:13, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I want to include the following template in the list of cutaneous conditions. However, where specifically within the document should I include the template? Feel free to add it if you know. --- kilbad ( talk) 02:23, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I have been working on binge drinking for the past week or so but a number of issues remain. It would be nice if a volunteer or 2 could help and improve the article; the eyes and comments from medical professionals would be good just to make sure that I have not made any errors or left out important facts etc; it also needs work on layout, flow and other WP:MEDMOS issues need fixed. At a later date I might try and get it to GA but think I would need a helping hand or two to do that. I read through every review from 2000 - 2010 to build up the article, which previously only had an epidemiological section (which is still a mess), so health effects are well sourced and not much pubmed work needs doing. The article subject is considered a major public health issue, lots of adverse social and medical consequences, for example regular heavy binge drinking may induce brain damage more quickly than alcoholism (due to frequent repeated acute withdrawal/rebound states-via a kindling mechanism and excito-neurotoxicity), adolescents and young adults make up most binge drinkers and are more sensitive to alcohol related neurotoxicity, also strongly associated with violent crime and vandalism, suicide and quadruples risk of alcoholism etc etc. As it is a topic which affects so many people in most western countries especially parents of adolescents and professionals who work with adolescents the article should be in better shape. One idea I have is redundant paragraphs might be worth moving to alcohol abuse under a subsection of binge drinking, which needs a section on binge drinking.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 21:43, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Another issue that requires attention is that there are a couple of red links to medical cardiological terms which may need to be turned into redirects or new articles created. and the epidemiological section needs a lot of work. Any help appreciated.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 22:11, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi there,
I'd be grateful for any help developing The Lazarus Effect (film) - it's a documentary, to raise awareness of AIDS in Africa. Lots of sources now (and more each day) gnews, etc. Help please? Chzz ► 05:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I am mildly annoyed by someone adding citations of a certain "Walid M.S." all over English as well as a few other language wikipedias. As far as I can tell at least 99% are added by IPs from Macon/GA, not surprisingly the place where one of the authors work.
As far as I can see it is not outright vandalism but undoubtedly in many cases there might be better sources and in the past there were a few edits that did fit badly into the structure of the article, in other cases the citations were just attached to halfway fitting text without touching the article at all.
For a few examples see Special:Contributions/70.184.4.10, however to get the whole picture it is necessary to search "Walid MS" in all subprojects.
I am wondering if anyone else noticed? What is the way to deal with it? Richiez ( talk) 20:13, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello there,
I have removed an edit
here from
Eczema as it appeared to me to breach guidelines on medical advice in that it decribed how to make, and use, an "Indian ayurvedic" Eczema treatment. It was also totally unsourced. I have advised the editor of my action and suggested that WikiBooks may be a better venue for this information. Hope this is the correct course to take. Regards,
--220.101 (
talk)
\Contribs 18:57, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
The Journal of Medical Internet Research has recently started an Open Peer Review process in which any registered user can review articles which have been submitted for consideration for publication. Top of the List at http://www.jmir.org/reviewer/openReview/abstracts is a submitted manuscript "Wikipedia as a global tool for public health promotion". Those with expert knowledge of this area on wikipedia may wish to contribute.— Rod talk 13:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I have no idea what this is, whether it is notable or even real, but I didn't want it to just slip between the cracks. Could someone check it is all okay? S.G.(GH) ping! 14:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
The related Category:Osteopathic medicine has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming . You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. |
Should the two categories " Osteopathy" and " Osteopathic medicine" be merged? Or should one of them be renamed? More eyes on this discussion would be appreciated. Gabbe ( talk) 08:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Can you all help me find another dermatologist to assist on Wikipedia? Does anyone have a dermatologist friend or colleague they can ask to help us? I am working to find someone here in Chicago, but it's been a tough sell, as most people want to pad the resume with other work instead. --- kilbad ( talk) 00:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
I wanted to know if there is an automated way to do the following. I want to search high-yield dermatology-related keywords for review articles in pubmed, things like psoriasis/ contact dermatitis/ urticaria/etc, basically any terms in the list of cutaneous conditions, and then I want to extract any available author e-mail addresses from those pubmed entries. I will then use those e-mail addresses to solicit authors to help on Wikipedia. Would someone be willing to help me with this? --- kilbad ( talk) 02:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
(outdent) I think that this is a good idea. It is possible that some authors may be annoyed at being asked but I think most would view it as a compliment (depending on how the email is worded). I think that the worst that could happen is that the emails will be ignored or most that reply will say they are too busy but the bonus is that a few new wikipedians will join the project. Scray, yes many of the authors will have strongly held beliefs on the topics that they edit but does that not describe about half of wikipedian community? :) Dermatology I don't think is a controversial area of medicine, it is pretty routine laboratory testing of skin and treatments (a bit more complicated than that but you know what I mean) etc and being peer reviewed published and likely dermatologists they would presumably be pushing a mainstream POV. Any interested parties could be given via a follow-up email the 5 core policies of editing wikipedia and will likely also get a welcome template soon after joining like other newbies.--
Literaturegeek |
T@1k? 21:07, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm. I just read Garrondo's comment and now I am thinking maybe my post in support was premature. I had not thought of the need of contacting the foundation and the effort possibly being viewed as spamming. I struck my above comment. If the email is sent by an individual rather than an official wikipedia foundation effort and not a project effort, then perhaps it is outside the scope of the foundation, ie because the email will not be representing the foundation?-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 21:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
As another established corresponding author in the biomedical literature, I agree with Scray's first point, above. To quote Scray, "This is certainly your prerogative, but (as an established corresponding author in the biomedical literature) I think you should be cognizant of some issues. First, prospective editors recruited from such sources will need some orientation on neutrality, because they almost certainly will have strongly-held views on the topics for which you recruit them. They should also try to avoid directly editing content that relates to (or cites) their own published work to avoid WP:COI - they should probably restrict themselves to making suggestions on the relevant Talk page." Postpostmod ( talk) 13:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I have a friend whose business is setting up RCTs who has developed a physiological hypotheses about the digestive system. Obviously not suitable for Wikipedia but I wondered if anybody knew of a website or blog where hypotheses can be published and discussed. I note the Medical Hypotheses Journal appears to be in the process of committing suicide so I wondered if there were any other forum? Fainites barley scribs 20:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone else look at Helminthic therapy and think it's perhaps written a little too much like a cheerleader? I tried looking on pubmed for info and review articles, but couldn't find any (you get a lot of links to treatments for parasitic infections). Looks very much like it's written by true-believer patients, but there's enough science in it to make me wonder. Anyone interested? WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 14:23, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
BBC quoted WP's definition of hysteria, in describing collective English belief that we can ever possibly win the football world cup. Might create a small flurry of hysterically depressed English readers wondering what they are suffering from. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8768122.stm David Ruben Talk 13:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I have nominated Tooth enamel for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.-- Cirt ( talk) 01:44, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I have posted a bibliography of Intelligence Citations for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues, some of which I see are in the scope of this WikiProject on medicine. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in those issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research and to suggest new sources to me by comments on that page. I am especially eager to learn about up-to-date sources on human cognitive testing from a medical perspective. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 18:56, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Can someone tell me the difference between Medroxyprogesterone and Medroxyprogesterone 17-acetate? One is a progestin, one is a pregnane, does that mean MPA is converted to progesterone in the body? Sources seem to use the two interchangeably as far as I can tell ( [30]).
Cross-posted to WP:DRUGS talk page, feel free to shut this one down if the answer is better found over there. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 00:55, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Discussion copied to RD/S
If you're talking about administering medroxyprogesterone as a pharmaceutical, then you're technically talking about MP acetate. If you're talking about steroid biochemistry in vivo, then it's more correct to refer to medroxyprogesterone, period. I'm not sure what implications this has for our article structure (and this is just me talking - it's been awhile since I took pharmacology, and I don't have a supporting source at my fingertips, so take it with a grain of salt because I have been known to be wrong). MastCell Talk 03:58, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Hope you all (especially MastCell) don't mind that I copied the collapsed section above to RD/S, for the reasons given by Axl above. -- Scray ( talk) 05:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
While browsing I came across this article Dorb the Chemist, Inc., does this belong in your scope? If so, please do the necessary actions.-- Iankap99 ( talk) 04:30, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
a new article in J Am Med Inform Assoc. zooms in on the Osteosarcoma article:
Anyone with fulltext access able to comment?
Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 15:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Table 1. Osteosarcoma questionnaire presenting the points for each answer for each of the three different websites: (1) the English version of Wikipedia on osteosarcoma; (2) the patient version of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) website; and (3) the health professional version of the NCI website (from Leithner et al. PMID 20595302) | No | Question | Wikipedia | NCI patient | NCI professional |
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1 | What is the incidence of osteosarcoma per 100 inhabitants? | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
2 | Should a biopsy be performed? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
3 | What is a biopsy? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
4 | Name three helpful chemotherapeutic agents | 3 | 0 | 3 | |
5 | Should radiotherapy normally be applied? | 0 | 0 | 3 | |
6 | What kind of surgery should be performed? (margins) | 0 | 3 | 3 | |
7 | Are amputations necessary in a large number of cases? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
8 | What does staging imply? | 0 | 2 | 3 | |
9 | Is a follow-up necessary? If yes, name 2 diagnostic procedures | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
10 | What is the 5 or 10-y prognosis? | 3 | 0 | 2 | |
11 | Prognosis depends on several factors, name 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
12 | Which age group is most affected? | 2 | 3 | 3 | |
13 | Might metastases occur? If yes, what are metastases? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
14 | Name three histological subtypes | 0 | 0 | 3 | |
15 | What symptoms might indicate the presence of a bone tumor (name 2) | 3 | 3 | 1 | |
16 | What is the main localization of osteosarcoma? | 3 | 3 | 3 | |
17 | What late effects are possible after successful treatment? (name 3) | 2 | 3 | 1 | |
18 | Do you find web-links to study centers (EURAMOS)? | 0 | 2 | 2 | |
19 | What are clinical trials? | 0 | 3 | 3 | |
20 | How can you find clinical trials in your area? | 1 | 3 | 3 | |
Total | 33 | 40 | 50 |
Hope this is the right place to ask this. The page on Fuch's endothelial dystrophy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuchs'_dystrophy contains this =
"Anecdotally, botulinum toxin type A given to the periocular tissues for a patient with blepharospasm and hemifacial spasm resulted in dramatic and immediate improvement in vision, lasting about 2–3 months after each quarterly treatment."
It is totally unclear to me why this is in this page. I have never heard of either spasm being associated with Fuch's and nowhere else on the page are they mentioned.
Trudyjh ( talk) 21:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
There is a merge tag on T1 relaxography and Spin-lattice relaxation time. First, I believe the subjects are in this project's realm. Second, I believe the merge should be done but it is beyond my expertise. Someone in this project should be able to do it. Best regards. -- Muhandes ( talk) 19:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be a WikiProject or Taskforce Gynaecology, so I'm posting this here. There is an edit-war bioidentical hormone replacement therapy vs. "synthetic" hormones at Talk:Medroxyprogesterone. Some eyes and hands would be really appreciated. Thanks -- ἀνυπόδητος ( talk) 07:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi. It has been brought to my attention that this page is in a rather poor state. I would have thought it would have included personal (home) medical software, GP knowledge-base software (such as SOPHIE (sp?)), a link at least and summary of the (disastrous) UK NHS IT program, etc. Lots of mainstream and medical press articles have been written about software and how it can improve (or not!) medical practice, and this should be covered here. I think this article is ripe for improvement from people with the knowledge and the correct references. Best, Verbal chat 09:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
I had a pleasant conversation with some more experienced editors than I on a user talk page about websites that guide readers on how to interpret primary research findings. One such site is the personal site of Google Director of Research Peter Norvig, including the article Warning Signs in Experimental Design and Interpretation. That article links to both primary and secondary sources that help Wikipedians distinguish reliable publications from unreliable publications for medicine-related articles. Another interesting site is Science-Based Medicine, a blog that today just happens to have an article on Reliability of Health Information on the Web, sure to be of interest to editors here. I try to link to sites like these in article talk pages so as to encourage Wikipedians to set high standards for sources as they edit medicine-related articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 15:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
In case anyone has time to look: Talk:Trichotillomania#Decoupling. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, everyone. I'm proposing to reorganise the categorisation of hormones, to account for the sheer number of them and so that the categories are more distinct from each other. Looking for input! - Richard Cavell ( talk) 02:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Acording to this source, atherosclerosis should be renamed to atherothrombosis, unless I misread the source. I stumbled across this issue when creating a redirect for atherothrombosis and trying to figure out what to redirect to.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 23:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Your thoughts on this proposal for encouraging readers to edit would be appreciated. I'd be particularly interested in suggestions regarding the mini-tutorial (how to edit a bio-med article). Anthony ( talk) 22:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Kallimachus; I have incorporated it. Anthony ( talk) 19:04, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Just a note to tell you what you already know: Encyclopedia articles don't normally include current retail prices for drugs. Someone kindly notified WPPHARM about this 2006 addition to an article about an antifungal medication, which is inappropriate. If you ever run across anything similar, please feel free to remove it.
(Other measures of price, like the average wholesale price or the AFRO Essential Medicines Price indicator, might be appropriate and encyclopedic information, if the cost is discussed by significant sources, but the retail price in a single country is not.) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 16:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Please consider participating in the Medicine Collaboration of the Month. Nominations and voting for the August 2010 collaboration are now underway. Craig Hicks ( talk) 19:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I saw a request to check Anti-Inflammation Diet at WT:WikiProject Health and fitness] which is a fairly moribund project/. It has lots of medical looking terms so posting it here as more likely to find someone competent to look at it. Dmcq ( talk) 23:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I see at the bottom of the journal's main page that they are using a CC license. Does this mean I can use photos from their journal on Wikipedia? --- kilbad ( talk) 17:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
So I saw this image, File:Chronic_skin_lesions_of_EPP.jpg, and that it was from http://www.biomedcentral.com. So my question is, can I use photos from http://www.biomedcentral.com/bmcdermatol/ on Wikipedia? --- kilbad ( talk) 22:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi I'm trying to de-orphan this article Enterostatin while at the same time build up content from references (heaps of good references can be found on google). This is not my field of expertise, but I think it is about using a drug to help with weight loss. Any suggestions for articles that might be suitable to link to would be helpful. Thanks Blackash have a chat 12:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I'm James, a soon-to-be fourth year medical student at Keele University in the UK. I've just finished doing an audit at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire, and the project has got me thinking. Wikipedia is still treated as being the devil's spawn by most of the faculty at my medical school, and I'd like to prove them wrong. I was wondering if anyone would be interested to carrying out a research project, with the aim to publish a paper at the end of it, examining Wikipedia's articles for breadth and accuracy in comparison to more traditional sources? If anyone's interested, do please let me know! Colds7ream ( talk) 09:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I am currently working to expand, improve, and clean up the pulmonology article. This article has been in disrepair for quite some time and I am working to make it more than a list of concepts. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Tyrol5 [Talk] 19:40, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
I want to cite chapters 1 and 2 in the following citation. How do I best do that? See List_of_cutaneous_conditions#cite_note-isbn0-7817-7363-6-18. --- kilbad ( talk) 17:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
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WhatamIdoing (
talk) 21:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)WP:WikiProject Medicine/Google Project has identified the next dozen in significant need of help:
If you're interested, please jump in. Even ten minutes' effort can help a lot, and this project multiplies your efforts out to several Wikipedias around the world. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 21:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I tried to correct the cerebral cortex types nav box as it wasn't quite right (e.g. allocortex was redirecting to neocortex), but when I got into it it was more complicated than I thought. I've had a go, but does anyone have any thoughts on it? Keepstherainoff ( talk) 15:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
There's actually a rather interesting point (involving a specific criticism of the Cochrane Collaboration) raised on talk:low level laser therapy. If anyone feels like venturing a viewpoint, it's actually somewhat intriguing.
There's also a much less interesting comment about MEDRS in general and two low-n primary sources in particular. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 22:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I was asked to post here in regards to a DYK nom I submitted, DirectHit, it's currently in Prep. Two of the sources need checking and I was told to come here. Thanks in advance. Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 03:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I would just like to point out some of the recognition that we get in the published literature:
I am cataloging the literature on Wikipedia and medicine both good and bad here. If people wish to add anything I have missed feel free to join in. Once again congratulations to all involved! And remember what we do matters :-) Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 05:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Saying a discussion is off-topic doesn't excuse it. WP is not a chat room. -- Scray ( talk) 03:40, 24 July 2010 (UTC) |
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This seems like a good community to ask this off-topic question. Have any of you seen a really good personal website for a doctor? I recently bought a domain name and would like to host my own personal dermatology page, and am trying to come up with a simple and good looking design. I have been looking around the web, but it seems that dermatologists are really bad at website design. Have any of you seen any really good personal physician websites? Would you post the link here? Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 22:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, my name is Maitri Shah, PharmD, and I work for GlaxoSmithKline Pharmaceuticals (GSK) in the United States as a Medical Information Scientist. My intent is to provide information to the editors of Wikipedia for their use in Cervarix related articles to help ensure that healthcare professionals in the United States receive accurate and balanced scientific information. I would like to propose that a new section be added to the Cervarix article that includes the important safety information for Cervarix. I have added my proposal to the Cervarix Talk Page. I have released the content under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License, this is evident on the talk page as well. I think that it is important to add important safety information to ensure that the reader receives a balanced view of Cervarix. All of the pharmaceutical product articles that I have read on Wikipedia with ratings of “B and GA” (e.g. Atorvastatin and Warfarin) in the WikiProject Medicine Quality scale include safety related information. Maitri Shah, PharmD, GSK ( talk) 14:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Just to notify, I've merged the tetanized state to tetanic contraction. A merge warning was on since late 2009 and they were indeed the same thing. Rudolf Hellmuth ( talk) 02:45, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Would someone help me by putting the images from this open access article on Wikipedia/Commons? See http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/gen.php?file=103TODJ.pdf&PHPSESSID=8e86837496fa7fbd75b6251fa687634b. Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 15:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
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The EMDR article is rife with NPOV problems. Since early May I've tried get editors to apply WP:MEDRS to resolve these problems with no success. Anyone able to help with what may become a rewrite of much of the article? -- Ronz ( talk) 16:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Croup was nominated for Good article status last month. It is a short article, but well-sourced and appears to me to meet the actual GA criteria. Other comments (and assistance in fixing the three problems I've identified) are welcome on its talk page.
Other Good article nominees related to WPMED are:
The Good article folks seem to be having a bit of a backlog problem overall, but WPMED is within sight of being caught up. If you've never reviewed an article for WP:GA status before, it's not difficult. There are six straightforward criteria, and you don't have to bother with the kind of fiddly details (or endless discussions with overly picky editors) that can bedevil FA nominations. A good review is a bit like a focused peer review. I encourage you to give it a try. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 06:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
We are having a discussion about how to best summarize the research on TM. Wondering if people would be so kind as to weight in here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#AHRQ_and_Transcendental_Meditation. It has to do with WP:MEDRS as well as the usage of studies done by people associated with the TM movement. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 21:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I've recently been doing some work on hereditary hemorrhagic telangiectasia. Now this is a condition that I don't normally treat personally, so I'd be delighted if you all could have a look at the result and leave comments on the talkpage before I submit this to WP:GAC. Thanks to User:Jmh649 and User:Kilbad for some recent advice. JFW | T@lk 20:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Denial of pregnancy is in the news this week (e.g., [37]. If anyone wants an easy task, expanding this four-sentence stub is probably a reasonable candidate. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 19:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Just noticed under Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine#Departments we have a Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Featured articles review department. Has this department been absorbed into the main FA system and is now historical ? Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 11:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I have come across a collection of creative commons images [38] that related to medicine. I think we can use them. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
(undent)They have released two high quality images from this collect to me under the CC2.0 license. Here is what they look like. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 11:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
User:Lb.at.wiki has noticed that the labelling in the image on the right is incorrect; see discussion at Talk:Kidney_transplantation#Erroneous picture. If anyone is willing to fix it that would be great, otherwise it will just go on the end of my ever-lengthening todo list. Adrian J. Hunter( talk• contribs) 14:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
This is sort of odd. This user is spamming the link to the List of pharmaceutical companies into every article conceivable. I'm not sure if there is some sort of weird motive for this or if he's just confused. It's been reverted in a few cases and reinserted. Any suggestions on what to do? SDY ( talk) 06:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Can people please look at Trans-umbilical breast augmentation - it is new; I'm wondering if it could be knocked into shape a bit within the next few days, so we can submit a WP:DYK. Thanks in anticipation, Chzz ► 16:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Greetings, friends,
This therapy is used very widely in China, Russia, and several other places; it's a mainstream therapy in these countries. For whatever reasons, it's not very well known in the US.
What we see with this article is that an editor keeps deleting the entire 'Further reading' section, which contains numerous valid peer-reviewed refs.
Here are these refs,
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My next concern is about the apparent ethnocentrism that I believe is apparent in the behaviour of User:WLU.
Wikipedia does not belong to USA alone. This is an international encyclopedia. The fact is that this treatment is used by millions of people outside the US (often being a mainstream treatment, actually), and I believe Wikipedia should reflect this. What is the current Wikipedia policy in this area, I wonder?
The research in this area has been conducted primarily in non-English speaking countries, and there's a huge amount of published research in Chinese, for example. But WLU keeps deleting all that.
And, finally, at this time we have a new editor ( User:Qudore) who actually knows something about this therapy (i.e. practical experience), and is trying to contribute to the article. But, by the looks of it, I'm afraid he won't be sticking around much longer, considering how he's being treated by WLU. Is it really to the advantage of Wikipedia to drive away knowledgeable and credentialed people from editing articles in their area of expertise? I wonder...
So I'm bringing these concerns here in the hope of receiving some good guidance in these areas.
Regards, -- Dyuku ( talk) 16:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
I tried to start a bit of cleanup of the article Gerovital, but I'm not really that knowledgeable in this area. It is in real need of someone with medical knowledge. If anyone could lend a hand, that would be helpful. Thanks. Deli nk ( talk) 11:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Herbert L. Fred, MD and Hendrik A. van Dijk are considering donating a bunch of high quality images to Wikimedia. These are two that they have given me which I have added to Superior vena cava syndrome. I am wanting to put them side by side in the infobox. Anyway we can get double image to work here? I wish to show them how their content will be used. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 11:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Are they donating any derm-related images. Again, keep me posted, and I would be happy to include them in the appropriate articles and lists. --- kilbad ( talk) 17:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
There are a number of conditions in the family of lichen planus, a type of violaceous and itchy skin rash. A complete listing is available at List_of_cutaneous_conditions#Lichenoid_eruptions. With that being, I wanted to know if someone would help get more quality, high resolution images of some of these conditions? --- kilbad ( talk) 14:17, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
The medical navigation templates {{ Psych navs}} and {{ Central nervous system navs}} are totally messed up when displayed on my screen. Could somebody please look at these. Many thanks, HairyWombat 18:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
I first encountered them as part of {{ SleepSeries2}} (at the bottom of the article Mattress). However, they always display screwed up to me, whether viewed there, as part of {{ Pervasive developmental disorders}}, as part of {{ CNS diseases of the nervous system}}, or on their own. HairyWombat 13:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
There's a discussion you might be interested in about how to incorporate and how (or if) to attribute a medical source which concluded that "the risks of spinal manipulation to the neck by far outweigh the benefits". It is currently the final sentence of the article's introduction. Familiarity with WP:NPOV, WP:ASF, WP:MEDRS, and WP:MEDASSESS would be helpful. Thanks! Ocaasi ( talk) 09:44, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
This article is a mess. I intend to work on it in a couple of days, but if anyone feels like doing some rough cleanup work, it would certainly make things easier :) (will cross-post to WT:PHARM) Fvasconcellos ( t· c) 21:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Two new articles that might need some assistance from editors with medical knowledge: Admittance and Conductance in cardiac performance and Pressure-Volume Loop Analysis in Cardiology. Deli nk ( talk) 19:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Currently there is mastitis which most people consider a synonym for puerperal mastitis. While puerperal mastitis was originally intended to be the main page for that editors were adding their stuff to mastitis instead so we now have essentially 2 pages dealing with puerperal mastitis and plenty of wasted effort if that continues. So another reorganisation seem unavoidable, I see this options:
I have zero experience with merging and such stuff so I would welcome any opinions and help. Richiez ( talk) 15:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Richiez ( talk) 16:21, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Does not seem to get much response.. I will start doing it soon. Richiez ( talk) 23:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd like anyone searching Wikipedia for "depression" to find useful stuff by the most direct route. A while ago I stumbled across Depression (mood) when it consisted of a fairly unfocused discussion of some of the psychiatric disorders featuring depressive symptoms and some speculation about the adaptiveness of depressive symptoms. [39] So after discussion with Casliber [40] I cut it down to a list of signs and symptoms, with links to Mood disorder, Adjustment disorder and Borderline personality disorder. [41]
The article has recently been reviewed by BSW-RMH as part of the Google.org project, and I've incorporated some of their suggestions. [42]
Also recently 7mike5000 (talk) has created Depression (differential diagnoses), a page discussing "physical" illnesses that produce depressive symptoms.
Could some knowledgeable med editors please look at this pathway and see if there are any delays, misdirections or roadblocks for readers looking for information about depression? I guess it starts with Depression (the disambiguation page). Anthony ( talk) 13:25, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
(copypasted from User talk:SandyGeorgia)
I have to concur with your concern. I've argued in the past that we need to automate the process of checking pubmed records for "Publication Type" fields and reflecting their values in our citation templates. Right now, I think that it is simply too handraulic for the few editors on medical topics to keep up with. Perhaps
user:Citation bot could be brought to bear on the problem of doing the checks, but we would need some agreement on how to indicate citations of primary sources. My recent pattern has been to simply insert "(primary source)" before the closing /ref tag, but that's rather a work-around instead of fixing the templates. How would you feel about adding a |pubtype=
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LeadSongDog
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The problem is that many people who add content containing primary research do not use the template fillers. Patrolling new additions is something we all hate (especially on controversial topics like the Zamboni zone in the MS article) but it is crucial to maintain the integrity of the encyclopedia. JFW | T@lk 19:51, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
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field to the templates, or to begging Diberri to automatically fill it in (if that's possible), but the most important work is still going to have to be done by humans.
WhatamIdoing (
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Just a note to say that I've just passed Croup for WP:Good article status. (Congratulations to Doc James and other editors.)
It sometimes seems like we report lots of problems here, but not really anything good -- and yet, somehow, when I look at my watchlist, I see useful things being done all the time. For example, I saw some badly sourced information being removed earlier today, there are a couple of civil conversations at some of our most important articles that look like they're going to be productive, BSW-RMH is doing wonders with the reviews for the Google Project (which needs your help, of course, because a review on a talk page doesn't fix the article), I notice that Looie496 has taken on the oldest of the medicine-related GA nominations, and I see that JFW has yet another article nominated for GA that looks "practically perfect in every way". And there's doubtless a lot of good work being done that I haven't noticed, too.
So let me say that it's great to work with this low-drama, high-productivity, very experienced group of editors, and that if you see good work being done, or if you did something that you enjoyed, please feel free to post about that, even when it feels a bit like you're tooting your own horn or embarrassing your friends by calling attention to their normally excellent work. We need to hear about problems so we can help you solve them, but we also need to know about your successes, too, so we can help you rejoice with them. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 22:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Reminded me of an older idea of me: each citation should have an own page, such as {{cite pmid|...}} already have.
The interesting part is we can be tremendously creative in what can be done with such thing. My idea was the page-top would have the filled out template as it has now and the rest could be used for many interesting things such as assessment of the source(mark known crap:), comments, citation web links, explanatory notes, short text citations where the source is not easily or freely available. Of course the pages also have "what links there", a talk page and similar already now. Richiez ( talk) 08:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
I have a big problem with citations being kept off page. This means you cannot at a glance identify the name and journal of the source, which can lead to terrible confusion if you need to cite several sources several times. I much support keeping the references close to the text.
What I would support is {{ cite pmid}} that automatically expands (with the help of a bot) into a full reference. JFW | T@lk 16:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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harv in order to address this wish, though it diverges significantly from the
Vancouver style. Re JFW's comment, what if citation bot were to subst the template some time after expanding it? That would (I think) avoid the reformatting problem and the problem of content buried on unwatched template-space subpages.
LeadSongDog
come howl! 17:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
I added some secondary review full-text sources to claudication, and did a bit or reorganization to help distinguish neurogenic and vascular. Some of the wording was pre-existing and uncited. Could one of the docs check and expand on my work? Some mention of the differential diagnosis when numbness vs. pain is present would be helpful. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 19:56, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
How do I cite Cochrane reviews (is there a template)? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
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But what is pink and scares an orthopood? JFW | T@lk 19:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Could others please have a look? We've got uncited original research text being added, incorrect tags, and a likely IP sock violating 3RR. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 13:08, 14 August 2010 (UTC
Hi. I rewrote Anismus a bit, adding new references (PMID's). Someone reverted all my work. Would someone here please review? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.43.31 ( talk) 16:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge Depression (differential diagnoses) into Depression (mood) - discuss at Talk:Depression_(mood)#Merge_discussion. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 21:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
If anyone is interested, there is a discussion about whether B6 is a meaningful treatment for autism at Talk:Autism therapies#Rimland review re vitamin B6. Two sources from 2002 are positive, while a Cochrane Review and an article from the Annals of clinical psychiatry (both 2009) are less enthusiastic. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 14:13, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I was doing some work on Vitex agnus-castus when I realised that the article tries to cover 3 fairly distinct domains: Botanical description etc, traditional herbal use, and use in modern medicin.
The sources on modern medical usage are good enough that I am tempted to split the article and create something like Vitex medication. Does that sound like a good idea or should I keep stuffing everything into one article? Are there other examples?
In Germany it has the status of a prescription free "apothekenpflichtig" (available in pharmacies only) medication with standartised extracts manufactured by several companies. I have fairly good overview of clinical and research aspectss but little knowledge about classical herbal stuff.
What name would I choose for such an article? Richiez ( talk) 14:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
What about adding templates like dopaminergics and melatonergics to the article? At least the dopaminergic effects are well establishd but I have not such a good feeling about doing that because what does this template then apply to? A particular extract, a plant? Richiez ( talk) 17:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I think the redirect is wrong. Although this type of lymphoma is associated frequently with Waldenström's macroglobulinemia, these two pathological entities are not interchangeable. The term Waldenström's macroglobulinemia identifies a hyperviscosity syndrome due to secretion of large amounts of monoclonal IgM. Therefore, this syndrome identifies alteration of a blood parameter and its consequences, but not its origin, which can be manifold. Instead, the term lymphoplasmacytic lymphoma identifies pathological entity, characterized by a tumor mass with typical histological changes and not always results in a Waldenström's macroglobulinemia. Sorry for my bad English. Have a nice day! :D -- Ceccomaster ( talk) 16:59, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I've never encountered this "focused" vs. "automatic" classification: if anyone has access to the full text of PMID 15121993 , could they verify this text just added?
Trichotillomania is also subdivided into "automatic" versus "focused" hair pulling. Trichotillomania is often not a focused act, but rather hair pulling occurs in a "trance-like" state. [2] This "automatic" pulling occurs in approximately three-quarters of patients with trichotillomania. [3] Environment is a large factor which affects hair pulling. [2] Sedentary activities such as being in a relaxed environment are conducive to hair pulling. [2] [4] A common example of a sedentary activity promoting hair pulling is lying in a bed while trying to rest or fall asleep. [2] An extreme example of automatic TTM is found when some patients have been observed to pull their hair out while asleep. [2] Children are more often in the automatic, or subconscious, subtype and may not consciously remember pulling their hair. Other individuals may have focused, or conscious, rituals associated with hair pulling, including seeking specific types of hairs to pull, pulling until the hair feels "just right", or pulling in response to a specific sensation.
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I've been thinking about the RFA drought, and the negative effects that this has on our own work. (For example, I've got a list of pages that need to be moved to their correct titles.) Special:ListUsers shows me that several good editors here (e.g., Garrondo, LeadSongDog, RexxS, Leevanjackson) also don't have various editor privs (e.g., autopatroller, rollback, or reviewer) set. I suspect that the hassle of requesting these things is the biggest reason.
I know that some editors aren't interested in an RFA, so here's something easy and quick that any new-page-creating editor can do in less than five minutes. For those of us who create an occasional article, it's not so helpful, but if you fairly often create new articles (and if you've been around a while, you may not realize how many you've created), please consider this:
New pages normally end up in Special:NewPages, where volunteers attempt to look over each one of them. People who have a demonstrated track record of creating lots of pages (that don't end up getting deleted) can help reduce the New Page Patrol's workload by requesting this bit. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 23:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Milia is plural for Milium. Given our current naming conventions, should the article be moved to something like Milium_(disease)? ---- kilbad ( talk) 20:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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