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Guter Vorsatz zum neuen Jahr: so far there are two separate archives for DYK Germany, one on the project page, on for those which appeared on Portal Germany. I suggest that we start to create one archive in 2011, and that we generally post Germany-related DYK from the main page also on the Portal. Every editor should take care of his/her own, both posting and archiving. (I do it at the same time, easier than having to remember and nicer than leaving the archiving to someone else.) I think the archive doesn't have to repeat the hook, just a link to the day would do. I suggest a table of: Article name (mine are long!), editor name, date appeared, link to the general archive, # of hits if more than 1k. Discussion welcome! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:21, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Article name | Editor | DYK | Hits | Remarks |
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Schau, lieber Gott, wie meine Feind, BWV 153 | Gerda Arendt | 2 January | ||
Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied, BWV 190 | Gerda Arendt | 1 January |
DYK | Article name | Editor | Hits | Remarks |
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4 January | Gottlob Espenlaub | Silver seren | 2.2k | |
Blauberge | Bermicourt | 1.5k | ||
3 January | V-2 rocket facilities of World War II | Target for Today | 9.7k | |
2 January | Schau, lieber Gott, wie meine Feind, BWV 153 | Gerda Arendt | ||
1 January | Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied, BWV 190 | Gerda Arendt |
Please visit the project DYK and the new archive and follow the invitation! So far we had more or less an article a day in 2011, to be continued, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 10:14, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Can we have a source for this statement, please ? I would doubt that Demmin was resettled by Flames. LordFarrow ( talk) 10:02, 17 January 2011 (UTC)LordFarrow
Rjensen ( talk · contribs) has expanded the WP:FURTHERREADING section at the end of History of Germany until it now contains more than one hundred (100) publications—ten times what the community usually thinks is an acceptable size. Many of the publications are specific to short time periods. His stated purpose is to provide a directory of "the scholarship".
If editors here, who doubtless have more knowledge of the subject than I do, would please take a look to figure out what should stay, what should be moved to other articles, and what should simply be removed, I'd appreciate it. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Comments would be welcome here: Talk:Paulskirchenverfassung#Title of this article. I know very little about the subject but found this article while following links out from today's featured article, and it didn't seem right that this title is not translated. Neutron ( talk) 23:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
German soldier that dropped his gun to stand besides Yugoslav partisans about to be shot. Help would be needed to find sources offline and in German, especially about Bundestag member Ostman von der Leye who recognized Schultz from photographs of the event. walk victor falk talk 06:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Since previous discussions on the subject have taken place here, I would like to draw attention to a contribution by Jimbo Wales at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany/Conventions#Bringing a particular issue to your attention.-- Boson ( talk) 11:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Note: Talk:Julia Görges#Move? – a requested move because " ö doesn't exist in English"... Jared Preston ( talk) 15:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Portal:Saxony is now live. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 19:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
There is a move request to move the article on the River Main to Main (river) at Talk:Main. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 07:04, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
A red link editor who is not able to spell Wiesbaden repeated adding to the section Famous visitors. I don't believe that the visitor is relevant to the city. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:36, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I have created a template, {{DNB portal}}, which links to the German National Library catalogue. This is based on the German Wiki equivalent and accepts their template name {{DNB-Portal}} as well. These links are widely used and can now simply be copied from their equivalent German Wiki article and will display in English in the article body. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 21:16, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion that concerns spelling/capitalization of music titles in German. Interested editors are invited to pop over and comment at WT:ALBUM#Capitalization of foreign-name albums and songs. – Ib Leo (talk) 21:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany#History of Germany above.
A rather activist editor is currently working on the article History of Germany. While some of his edits are fine, and the editor is generally adding sourced information, there are some problems with the approach the editor is applying:
More input is needed, so that a meaningful consensus can be built. Cs32en Talk to me 18:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Would someone mind writing a quick stub on the Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Central Europe in German? I don't think the German Wikipedia has an article on this one yet WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I have recently created a portal for the Ore Mountains in Saxony and Bohemia along with numerous articles. Quite a few are stubs which I am slowly working through. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 20:10, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
GEOGRAPHICAL NAMES 1.29 General. Many place names have an anglicised form, but as people become more familiar with these names in the language of the country concerned, so foreign spellings will gain wider currency in written English. As a rule of thumb, therefore, use the native form for geographical names (retaining any accents) except where an anglicised form is overwhelmingly common.
I have nominated Germany for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 14:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
How is that for an article name: Badge of the 30th Conference of the leaders of the sports organizations in the protection and security institutions in the socialist countries? User:Blusts has started a collection of these articles, which can be found under Category:Award items and badges of the SV Dynamo. Not sure whether this could just simply be merged in an Award items and badges of the SV Dynamo article, given the limited contend of the articles in the category. What's the general thoughts? Calistemon ( talk) 21:15, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
I would like to identify Bermicourt as a candidate for receiving the Germany Barnstar of National Merit. Although he has contributed to the WikiProject Germany in general, I would specifically like to commend him for his continued effort on improving and expanding the WikiProject Germany conventions, which he has done since 4 April 2009 (27 edits, 37.5%). His collaboration style is very constructive and deserves praise. In my opinion, this ought to be rewarded by an appropriate barnstar. Since I am not a member of this project, may I present this for your consideration? -- Eddyspeeder ( talk) 19:31, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
I've finished major work on this article. Before a WP:GA nomination, I'd like to invite interested projects to do a B-class review. Please post any reviews on the article's talk page. I'd appreciate any assistance with prose copy-editing (I am not a native speaker of English). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:21, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
For Hitler and other ethnic Germans of his time not "German" Hitler was Austrian-born nationality but a ethnic German — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeordieWikiEditor ( talk • contribs) 21:56, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Volksdeutsche are ethnic Germans read the page. Austrians for example are ethnic Germans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeordieWikiEditor ( talk • contribs) 18:24, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I sourced Schwäbisch Hall article in many places. But only used a couple of sources. First of all, the project template states that the article "lacks sufficient references." Does anyone think there's enough to remove it? Second of all, does anybody have any where I can get any other references for the city? I used only 2 websites from all the sourcing and it would be good to use more. Kingjeff ( talk) 05:02, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
On the German Wikipedia I found de:Portal:Frankfurt Rhein-Main
Would anyone be interested in starting an English version, at Portal:Frankfurt? WhisperToMe ( talk) 22:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Please be advised that I have listed this category for upmerging to Government of Germany in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 March 28 #1.3 Category:Executive branch of the German Government per the Irish precedent. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 20:50, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Can someone at this project help with fixing links to the disambiguation page Halle? Thanks. -- Tesscass ( talk) 18:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
In the German Wikipedia someone pointed out on this article which lacks any neutreal point of view (me would consider it racistic itself). However if any German user would request a deletion some might argue that the deletion request is a result of conflict of interests. So I thought to refer the article to this project members' awareness and consideration what to do with this collection of anti-German POV, original research of unrelated events, lack of reputable sources, reputability of cited sources, bad formatting and a bunch of other issues. -- Matthiasb ( talk) 09:57, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
All opinions welcome. Thank you. walk victor falk talk 15:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
I created the above article some while ago and have now completed the expansion of all the stub articles on Germany's highest mountains from German Wikipedia - some 30+ articles in all - to give better coverage of this area. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 06:23, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
I added "contemporary music" to several talk pages yesterday and wonder if the Project Germany should be added to German singers, orchestras, composers, cantatas ...? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:15, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Additional opinions would be appreciated at Talk:Baron Münchhausen#Unsourced Material. Thanks. Doniago ( talk) 16:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello. Diane, Duchess of Württemberg is a referenced BLP on de.wp. Could anyone add a reference to the Stuttgarter Zeitung and remove the BLP warning, please? Thank you, Comte0 ( talk) 11:46, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
As suggested by Boson I have moved this subthread to its proper place at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hans_Adolf_Eduard_Driesch. Thank you. -- Alex146 ( talk) 21:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Who would be interested in having a North Rhine-Westphalia taskforce? It is Germany's most populated state. Kingjeff ( talk) 04:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
File:Breznev-Honecker 1979.jpg has been nominated for deletion. 65.94.45.160 ( talk) 06:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
-- Traveler100 ( talk) 07:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
I have created a portal for the Elbe Sandstone Mountains here. Please feel free to create articles for the red links or add others you are interested in. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 19:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Are people interested in a change to have six criteria? Things changed since back when we were early adopters of a B-class with explicit criteria... Check #6 at the linked page. It shouldn't be too hard to change the template, but 2,862 articles will need to be checked. — Кузьма 討論 12:08, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
We could try to do this while we're editing the template anyway, see below. If you think #6 applies to us at all and is important to be checked. — Кузьма 討論 06:09, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm considering starting a task force on East Germany, since the coverage of GDR-related articles seems rather poor. Would anybody else be interested in joining that? My background is literature and culture, and I'm going to be working on an article on GDR science fiction over the next few months. I've never started a taskforce before, but if you're interested in participating, say so, and also what areas of interest/specialization you could cover. Sindinero ( talk) 12:08, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll try to get a template with extra task force working soon (maybe this weekend) -- it is not a completely trivial task, since the current version of the template only allows for the 5 task forces we have. But as there are other WikiProjects with 20+ task forces, I am sure I will figure it out. Is |GDR=yes the best name for the switch? I thought about using "East Germany" for a while, but that is less well-defined. Still, the scope needs to be clarified: Should Leipzig part of the GDR project? Angela Merkel? Also, if we want to tag dissidents, perhaps we shouldn't use the coat of arms, but rather a map of divided Germany. — Кузьма 討論 12:34, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Also, as far as content goes, over the next few months I'll start working on lists and categories relating to GDR culture and literature, starting stubs in these areas, tagging things for improvement, etc. Sindinero ( talk) 20:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
It's a pleasure! I've just added the management pages for "Image of the Month" and "Article of the Month". What it needs now is for those more expert than I to add 11 images and article introductions to the lists on those pages, so that as the month changes they automatically come up. Have fun! Viel Spaß! -- Bermicourt ( talk) 15:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Alright, it's begun. I basically copy-pasted from the SF task force, changing the wording where necessary. It's still a very rough draft, but it's live.
Sindinero ( talk) 14:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
IceMole and FH Aachen, related to science in Germany, are nominated for DYK and deserve improvement, imo, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
There is a long list of renames today where the disambiguation "(Nazi)" is used. My kneejerk reaction was to revert them all, but thought better of it and rather come here for more input. Personally I find a) Party membership not really a defining character of a person b) the term Nazi being used as a deregatory term and if the party membership being the most defining characteristic of a person it should be be spelt out more encyclopedic. (P.S. My family is close to a number of Holocaust survivers so there is definetly no loveloss to these people). Any input/comments? Agathoclea ( talk) 21:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Well I would not worry too much about this, I was done with the page moves at this point regardless. But I do not see how this is controversial. It is a FACT that they were members of the Nazi party. It is a characteristic rather than a derogatory or judgmental term. And most Nazis had unique names so it's a non-issue in most cases. I am rather lacking in the skill of providing good examples, as the case can be seen with Mueller, but I stand by the reasoning that people such as Bruno Tesch are more closely identified with Nazism than with the practice of their profession. The Nazi "physicians" are in fact now not physicians due to the fact that they did not conduct an ethical practice of medicine, were stripped of medical licenses, etc. I think of Karl Brandt (Nazi) as being a Nazi who practiced unethical medicine, not as a medical doctor who practiced ethical medicine. Hoops gza ( talk) 05:48, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Regarding Category:Beer Hall Putsch, I do not see how that is OR. For the purposes of that event, the people were either Nazi Party members, collaborators with the Nazi Party, or opposed the Nazi Party. It is listed in their articles which one they were. Hoops gza ( talk) 05:50, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
In the case of Bruno Tesch (Nazi), nothing in the article says that he was "a Nazi". Was he a party member? He was clearly a bad guy, but he might have just been an opportunist who would have sold poison gas to the Communists or whoever -- would that make him a Communist? "Chemist" is supported by the article, "supplier of poison gas" or "supporter of mass murder" would be, but "Nazi" isn't directly supported. Actually, I agree with Bermicourt and Shimgray, and would support reverting all the moves (per WP:BRD). Such moves could then be attempted again via WP:RM if necessary. — Кузьма 討論 10:01, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Now I cannot get Bruno Tesch's page to load at all. I think it's because two people put in redirects. With Gustav Wagner, discussion appears to want to make that the primary topic with a disambiguation for the bobsledder. Hoops gza ( talk) 20:36, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Karl Brandt should also be made into the primary, I don't know why he wasn't to begin with. He is FAR more renowned than anyone else with that name. Hoops gza ( talk) 20:44, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Heinrich Müller should be made into the primary as well. He was the head of the Gestapo. Hoops gza ( talk) 20:52, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
I was in two minds about responding here, but here goes...
Hg may have been over-zealous in making these changes without discussing them, but he has a point. Describing
Bruno Tesch as a chemist, or
Karl Brandt as a physician, when they are notable chiefly as war criminals, is a bit disingenuous. It looks like we are trying to rehabilitate the
bastards, don't you think?
Swanny18 (
talk) 14:22, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
... a rename, or requested move at " Talk:Julia Görges" yet again. I'd appreciate your input. Jared Preston ( talk) 08:11, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
I found a new article, Gerd von Hassler, of a new user who is blocked. Someone should take care of an important person, beyond a machine translation and overlinking? I established at least the link to de, but don't have time for more. Help, please, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Since early in 2010, many editors have assisted in the referencing or removal of over 90% of the Unreferenced Biographies of Living People, bringing the total down from over 50,000 to the current 4,862 (as of 16:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)). Thank you for all of the work you've done to date, but we are now asking for your help in finishing this task. There are two main projects which are devoted to removing UBLPs from en.Wikipedia:
All you have to do is pick your articles and then add suitable references from reliable sources and remove the {{ BLP unsourced}} template. There is no need to log your changes, register or remove the articles from the list. If you need any help, or have any comments, please ask at WP:URBLPR or WT:URBLP.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide. The-Pope ( talk) 16:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, can somebody translate the sections and proof read it so far, I translated what I could. Tibetan Prayer ᧾ 07:09, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I came across two unrelated artists today, Christoph Schlingensief and Johann Kuhnau, who have in common that their articles should be improved. Please help. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello all, the articles on List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (C), List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (A) and List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (U), which are related to this project, are currently undergoing Military history project A-class reviews. Any editor who is interested is invited to help review them. The reviews can be found here: WP:MHPR, while the Military history project A-class criteria can be found here: WP:MHA. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 01:53, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Moin! I thought I'd leave you a hint that this portal has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Military of Germany. Regards, De728631 ( talk) 17:58, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I have been been editing the Emminger Decrees article, and I am in need of some German transliterators, and maybe translators, as well as some people fluent in German to track down the actual laws and regulations referred to as the Emminger Decrees. From what I could gather from German language sources, there are more than just the decree of 4 January 1924, there also being references to 22 and 8 December 1923, 4 January and 13 February 1924. There are likely both laws and regulations issued on the subject, as it seems an enabling law was in effect. The Reichsgesetzblatt (Reich Law Gazette) is online here. Pages 15-22 of Reichsgesetzblatt I being the most important, but any other relevant articles would be great. German language sources (which I cannot use effectively) may also be of help. Again, I only really need transliterations, as I can use Google Translate, although the addition of translations may also be much appreciated. The main reason this is needed is because I need to know what the referenced law/regulations (p. 15-22) says, if the title should be plural or singular, if there is a better name, when the state of emergency ended, when legislative powers reverted to the Reichstag, German language sources, etc. If you need somewhere to put them, put them on my Sandbox. Please and thank you. Int21h ( talk) 08:11, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Date | Source | Title |
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8 December 1923 | RGBl I p. 1179 | Ermächtigungsgesetz Enabling act |
22 December 1923 | RGBl I pp. 1239–1243 | Verordnung zur Beschleunigung des Verfahrens in bürgerlichen Rechtsstreitigkeiten Regulation on the expedition of the proceedings in civil disputes |
4 January 1924 | RGBl I pp. 15–22 | Verordnung über Gerichtsverfassung und Strafrechtspflege Regulation on constitution of the courts and [on] criminal justice |
13 February 1924 | RGBl I p. 117 | Verordnung des Reichspräsidenten über Durchführung der infolge der
Unruhen in Hamburg vom Oktober 1923 anhängigen Strafverfahren Regulation of the Reich President on the execution of the criminal proceedings that are pending due to the unrest in Hamburg in October 1923 |
13 February 1924 | RGBl I pp. 135–150 | Verordnung über das Verfahren in bürgerlichen Rechtsstreitigkeiten Regulation on the proceedings in civil disputes |
Be sure to put reliable English sources up there. I haven't seen any sources mention that it was only suspended for 10 weeks then later reformed. Were both the suspension and later reformation done by the 4 January act? Yes, I have seen the criticisms of the jury system and that it is apparently a widely held view. But I have doubts about how widely held it is, and why. My first guess is that it was been widely held that juries were a problem for the same reasons that it was widely held (pre-WW2) that Jews and communists were a problem. The sources I have read touch on these topics as well, noting that not much discussion either then, or now, was done on the jury system or the layperson system, it was just done by the powers that be and that was that ... there were bigger topics on everyone's tongues at the time. ( hyperinflation, French occupation, Communists, etc.) Int21h ( talk) 23:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
And let me correct myself and say what you probably already knew: the sources positively do not need to be in English. In fact, they will likely be in German given the subject material. Anything that makes the article better or reflects on anything and everything revolving around these ... reforms ... the better. Int21h ( talk) 01:23, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I would like to write on Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg, what would be the appropriate article name, and how would her title and maiden name appear in English? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:17, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
There are still quite a number of concentration camp articles needing geocoding: see User:The Anome/Concentration camp articles needing coordinates for a list of these, and WP:COORD for a guide to geocoding. Many of these are proving difficult to track down, yet all are historically important. Can anyone here help with adding location data to these articles? -- The Anome ( talk) 22:51, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
It appears to have a familly, or royal crest on it. It looks like one of those badges worn on a sashel by German leaders of the time. Anyone with information may contact me via email at, "jakeonmaui@yahoo.com". I can send a picture of it.
Thanks Jake — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.95.215.51 ( talk) 23:30, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Just created "Descendants of Major Nazis". Thought this would be a good index page, especially to articles already on Wikipedia. Would appreciate any input. - OberRanks ( talk) 00:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I just noticed that somebody removed the WPGer tag from the article on U-41. Is there really a duplication? -- FJS15 ( talk) 21:05, 23 June 2011
I have come across Category:Nazi political ranks and I'm not comfortable with it. While I do not dispute that most of the political ranks listed there were actually used by the Nazis, I would like to point out, that a lot of them are still used in present Germany without any link to the Nazi party. Except for Ortsgruppenleiter, Kreisleiter, Gauleiter and Reichsleiter all articles deal with positions which are perfectly normal first or mid-level management roles (e.g. I had a meeting with an Abteilungsleiter (i.e. department manager) just the other day). So I would suggest to add something like (NSDAP) to it (like in Inspekteur (NSDAP)) in order to prevent confusion about the meaning of these words in German. Any objections? -- FJS15 ( talk) 19:21, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Is there any style guide to the translation of titles: courtly titles of the Holy Roman Empire, especially: They're so common in German wikipedia biographies. Saying "privy councillor" for Geheimrat just doesn't sound right. Other phrases like: "mit Diplom...in den Freiherrnstad erhoben" get really tricky because a Diplom is an Adelsbrief and there's simply nothing like it in English. These things keep repeating themselves and it would be great if there was a guide that suggested translations for all these typical phrases.
For academic titles I usually just say "he joined the faculty of xxx in 18xx" instead of listing ten sentences of every single title he had with a university and the years he held it. German can get so hung up on this type of thing: ten sentences of titles, one hinting at why person is actually important, and nothing about the person's style/influence/critical reception/etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TotalFailure ( talk • contribs) 06:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
A new category has been created called " Category:Agencies administered by Heinrich Himmler" with every SS agency added into this category. Heinrich Himmler was the Commander of the entire SS...of course he oversaw the various agencies. In addition, the category itself is very misleading as it suggests Himmler directly commanded the agencies. While he was head of the entire SS, some of the agencies Himmler did not in fact administer on a day to day basis. I would recommend deleting the entire category as overly redundant. - OberRanks ( talk) 04:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
We are also seeing the inserting of the broad category Heinrich Himmler to SS organization articles. I recommend this too be halted. I fear we are headed into an edit war situation, so would like to bring the matter up here. - OberRanks ( talk) 01:42, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Regarding the Category:Heinrich Himmler, I do believe that the following articles should be added to it:
I do not think that any of these additions are debatable save for SS. Hoops gza ( talk) 02:33, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
It does not look like the broader is really being discussed. In any event, the broader definitely should not be deleted and I hope that I would be notified if it were nominated or that a warning would be placed on the category's page. It takes a lot of work to put together a good category. I plan to make a navbox eventually for Himmler. Hoops gza ( talk) 02:52, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
I ran across this article while doing NPP. It seemed kind of strange that such an article would only have been created less than a month ago, as it would seem to be a fairly high-level concept to have started covering years ago. I suspect it should be redirected somewhere, but not sure where, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. I won't be watching this page, so if you need me to comment please ping me on my talkpage. Danke. → ROUX ₪ 20:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
I just came across Municipal association - did we not have a more extensive artice on the subject? If not this needs attention otherwise a redirect. Agathoclea ( talk) 13:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
A new discussion on wording changes to the current guideline to clarify the use of diacritics for subjects whose native names contain them has been initiated. It can be found at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)/Diacritics RfC Ohconfucius ¡digame! 08:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Readers here may be interested in contributing to the discussion at Talk:List of Dukes of Saxony#move. Cheers. - GTBacchus( talk) 23:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
The proposed renaming being discussed at Talk:Wilhelm II, German Emperor#Requested move: To "Kaiser Wilhelm II" may be of interest to members of WikiProject Germany. Favonian ( talk) 22:19, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I think Rape during the occupation of Germany and its talk page could do with a few more eyes.-- Boson ( talk) 16:21, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
An editor is changing references to East and West Germany to Germany on the grounds that "there is no East and West Germany any more". They have however, changed this on the notes re the date of birth of Heidi Klum and Angela Merkel, both of whom were born well before the unification era. I believe that our policy is to record these things as they were at the time, and have left a note on their talk page to that effect. You might wish to keep an eye on this without being too bitey ( seems to be a newbie not understanding the system rather than anything else). Britmax ( talk) 07:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Just a heads up - a thread has been started on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard about the article Johannes von Ronge. The same issue regarding the name appears to affect the Berthe von Rönge article. Please weigh in and help resolve this issue. 75.13.69.146 ( talk) 22:32, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
This page has recently been moved to this location from Betriebssportgemeinschaft (GDR). While I understand the rationale behind that (no parentheses if there is no need for disambiguation), it fails to consider that the article only deals with the specific situation in East Germany, but that there are Betriebssportgemeinschaft-like structures in unified Germany and that there have been such structures in West Germany as well. Thus, the article needs to be expanded in that direction so as to show the whole picture. Additionally, the article has been marked as needing an infobox. Which infobox would be suitable here? Thanks for your feedback. Madcynic ( talk) 16:22, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Although it's been repeated again and again in German sources, the requirement that all foreign articles be marked, in English, with the country of origin (and as a result, "Germany" or "Made in Germany") does not come from the UK's Merchandise Marks Act 1887. It comes from the (US's) McKinley Tariff Act of 1890. Those who do claim the MMA 1887 should please quote the requirement in the Act.
It is most unfortunate that the 1887 belief continues to be spread.
〜〜〜〜 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boogielein ( talk • contribs) 00:07, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland#Musings_on_Silesian_people_and_categories. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:09, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
This individual is pretty obscure, but a precedent can be set regarding article titles for detitled German nobility. Kauffner ( talk) 17:56, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
There was a short edit war on Munich air disaster. Members of our project might have some input. Agathoclea ( talk) 17:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
See here. Thanks, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 22:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
An der Welle 4, 60322 Frankfurt am Main is where the Frankfurt office of Korean Air is. What districts and subdivisions within the city is it located in? Thanks, WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:50, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
The districts of Frankfurt can be found here. Cs32en Talk to me 04:54, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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Guter Vorsatz zum neuen Jahr: so far there are two separate archives for DYK Germany, one on the project page, on for those which appeared on Portal Germany. I suggest that we start to create one archive in 2011, and that we generally post Germany-related DYK from the main page also on the Portal. Every editor should take care of his/her own, both posting and archiving. (I do it at the same time, easier than having to remember and nicer than leaving the archiving to someone else.) I think the archive doesn't have to repeat the hook, just a link to the day would do. I suggest a table of: Article name (mine are long!), editor name, date appeared, link to the general archive, # of hits if more than 1k. Discussion welcome! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:21, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Article name | Editor | DYK | Hits | Remarks |
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Schau, lieber Gott, wie meine Feind, BWV 153 | Gerda Arendt | 2 January | ||
Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied, BWV 190 | Gerda Arendt | 1 January |
DYK | Article name | Editor | Hits | Remarks |
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4 January | Gottlob Espenlaub | Silver seren | 2.2k | |
Blauberge | Bermicourt | 1.5k | ||
3 January | V-2 rocket facilities of World War II | Target for Today | 9.7k | |
2 January | Schau, lieber Gott, wie meine Feind, BWV 153 | Gerda Arendt | ||
1 January | Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied, BWV 190 | Gerda Arendt |
Please visit the project DYK and the new archive and follow the invitation! So far we had more or less an article a day in 2011, to be continued, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 10:14, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Can we have a source for this statement, please ? I would doubt that Demmin was resettled by Flames. LordFarrow ( talk) 10:02, 17 January 2011 (UTC)LordFarrow
Rjensen ( talk · contribs) has expanded the WP:FURTHERREADING section at the end of History of Germany until it now contains more than one hundred (100) publications—ten times what the community usually thinks is an acceptable size. Many of the publications are specific to short time periods. His stated purpose is to provide a directory of "the scholarship".
If editors here, who doubtless have more knowledge of the subject than I do, would please take a look to figure out what should stay, what should be moved to other articles, and what should simply be removed, I'd appreciate it. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Comments would be welcome here: Talk:Paulskirchenverfassung#Title of this article. I know very little about the subject but found this article while following links out from today's featured article, and it didn't seem right that this title is not translated. Neutron ( talk) 23:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
German soldier that dropped his gun to stand besides Yugoslav partisans about to be shot. Help would be needed to find sources offline and in German, especially about Bundestag member Ostman von der Leye who recognized Schultz from photographs of the event. walk victor falk talk 06:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Since previous discussions on the subject have taken place here, I would like to draw attention to a contribution by Jimbo Wales at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany/Conventions#Bringing a particular issue to your attention.-- Boson ( talk) 11:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Note: Talk:Julia Görges#Move? – a requested move because " ö doesn't exist in English"... Jared Preston ( talk) 15:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Portal:Saxony is now live. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 19:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
There is a move request to move the article on the River Main to Main (river) at Talk:Main. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 07:04, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
A red link editor who is not able to spell Wiesbaden repeated adding to the section Famous visitors. I don't believe that the visitor is relevant to the city. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:36, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I have created a template, {{DNB portal}}, which links to the German National Library catalogue. This is based on the German Wiki equivalent and accepts their template name {{DNB-Portal}} as well. These links are widely used and can now simply be copied from their equivalent German Wiki article and will display in English in the article body. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 21:16, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion that concerns spelling/capitalization of music titles in German. Interested editors are invited to pop over and comment at WT:ALBUM#Capitalization of foreign-name albums and songs. – Ib Leo (talk) 21:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany#History of Germany above.
A rather activist editor is currently working on the article History of Germany. While some of his edits are fine, and the editor is generally adding sourced information, there are some problems with the approach the editor is applying:
More input is needed, so that a meaningful consensus can be built. Cs32en Talk to me 18:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Would someone mind writing a quick stub on the Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Central Europe in German? I don't think the German Wikipedia has an article on this one yet WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I have recently created a portal for the Ore Mountains in Saxony and Bohemia along with numerous articles. Quite a few are stubs which I am slowly working through. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 20:10, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
GEOGRAPHICAL NAMES 1.29 General. Many place names have an anglicised form, but as people become more familiar with these names in the language of the country concerned, so foreign spellings will gain wider currency in written English. As a rule of thumb, therefore, use the native form for geographical names (retaining any accents) except where an anglicised form is overwhelmingly common.
I have nominated Germany for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 14:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
How is that for an article name: Badge of the 30th Conference of the leaders of the sports organizations in the protection and security institutions in the socialist countries? User:Blusts has started a collection of these articles, which can be found under Category:Award items and badges of the SV Dynamo. Not sure whether this could just simply be merged in an Award items and badges of the SV Dynamo article, given the limited contend of the articles in the category. What's the general thoughts? Calistemon ( talk) 21:15, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
I would like to identify Bermicourt as a candidate for receiving the Germany Barnstar of National Merit. Although he has contributed to the WikiProject Germany in general, I would specifically like to commend him for his continued effort on improving and expanding the WikiProject Germany conventions, which he has done since 4 April 2009 (27 edits, 37.5%). His collaboration style is very constructive and deserves praise. In my opinion, this ought to be rewarded by an appropriate barnstar. Since I am not a member of this project, may I present this for your consideration? -- Eddyspeeder ( talk) 19:31, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
I've finished major work on this article. Before a WP:GA nomination, I'd like to invite interested projects to do a B-class review. Please post any reviews on the article's talk page. I'd appreciate any assistance with prose copy-editing (I am not a native speaker of English). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:21, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
For Hitler and other ethnic Germans of his time not "German" Hitler was Austrian-born nationality but a ethnic German — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeordieWikiEditor ( talk • contribs) 21:56, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Volksdeutsche are ethnic Germans read the page. Austrians for example are ethnic Germans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeordieWikiEditor ( talk • contribs) 18:24, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I sourced Schwäbisch Hall article in many places. But only used a couple of sources. First of all, the project template states that the article "lacks sufficient references." Does anyone think there's enough to remove it? Second of all, does anybody have any where I can get any other references for the city? I used only 2 websites from all the sourcing and it would be good to use more. Kingjeff ( talk) 05:02, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
On the German Wikipedia I found de:Portal:Frankfurt Rhein-Main
Would anyone be interested in starting an English version, at Portal:Frankfurt? WhisperToMe ( talk) 22:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Please be advised that I have listed this category for upmerging to Government of Germany in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 March 28 #1.3 Category:Executive branch of the German Government per the Irish precedent. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 20:50, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Can someone at this project help with fixing links to the disambiguation page Halle? Thanks. -- Tesscass ( talk) 18:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
In the German Wikipedia someone pointed out on this article which lacks any neutreal point of view (me would consider it racistic itself). However if any German user would request a deletion some might argue that the deletion request is a result of conflict of interests. So I thought to refer the article to this project members' awareness and consideration what to do with this collection of anti-German POV, original research of unrelated events, lack of reputable sources, reputability of cited sources, bad formatting and a bunch of other issues. -- Matthiasb ( talk) 09:57, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
All opinions welcome. Thank you. walk victor falk talk 15:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
I created the above article some while ago and have now completed the expansion of all the stub articles on Germany's highest mountains from German Wikipedia - some 30+ articles in all - to give better coverage of this area. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 06:23, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
I added "contemporary music" to several talk pages yesterday and wonder if the Project Germany should be added to German singers, orchestras, composers, cantatas ...? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:15, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Additional opinions would be appreciated at Talk:Baron Münchhausen#Unsourced Material. Thanks. Doniago ( talk) 16:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello. Diane, Duchess of Württemberg is a referenced BLP on de.wp. Could anyone add a reference to the Stuttgarter Zeitung and remove the BLP warning, please? Thank you, Comte0 ( talk) 11:46, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
As suggested by Boson I have moved this subthread to its proper place at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hans_Adolf_Eduard_Driesch. Thank you. -- Alex146 ( talk) 21:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Who would be interested in having a North Rhine-Westphalia taskforce? It is Germany's most populated state. Kingjeff ( talk) 04:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
File:Breznev-Honecker 1979.jpg has been nominated for deletion. 65.94.45.160 ( talk) 06:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
-- Traveler100 ( talk) 07:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
I have created a portal for the Elbe Sandstone Mountains here. Please feel free to create articles for the red links or add others you are interested in. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 19:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Are people interested in a change to have six criteria? Things changed since back when we were early adopters of a B-class with explicit criteria... Check #6 at the linked page. It shouldn't be too hard to change the template, but 2,862 articles will need to be checked. — Кузьма 討論 12:08, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
We could try to do this while we're editing the template anyway, see below. If you think #6 applies to us at all and is important to be checked. — Кузьма 討論 06:09, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm considering starting a task force on East Germany, since the coverage of GDR-related articles seems rather poor. Would anybody else be interested in joining that? My background is literature and culture, and I'm going to be working on an article on GDR science fiction over the next few months. I've never started a taskforce before, but if you're interested in participating, say so, and also what areas of interest/specialization you could cover. Sindinero ( talk) 12:08, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll try to get a template with extra task force working soon (maybe this weekend) -- it is not a completely trivial task, since the current version of the template only allows for the 5 task forces we have. But as there are other WikiProjects with 20+ task forces, I am sure I will figure it out. Is |GDR=yes the best name for the switch? I thought about using "East Germany" for a while, but that is less well-defined. Still, the scope needs to be clarified: Should Leipzig part of the GDR project? Angela Merkel? Also, if we want to tag dissidents, perhaps we shouldn't use the coat of arms, but rather a map of divided Germany. — Кузьма 討論 12:34, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Also, as far as content goes, over the next few months I'll start working on lists and categories relating to GDR culture and literature, starting stubs in these areas, tagging things for improvement, etc. Sindinero ( talk) 20:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
It's a pleasure! I've just added the management pages for "Image of the Month" and "Article of the Month". What it needs now is for those more expert than I to add 11 images and article introductions to the lists on those pages, so that as the month changes they automatically come up. Have fun! Viel Spaß! -- Bermicourt ( talk) 15:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Alright, it's begun. I basically copy-pasted from the SF task force, changing the wording where necessary. It's still a very rough draft, but it's live.
Sindinero ( talk) 14:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
IceMole and FH Aachen, related to science in Germany, are nominated for DYK and deserve improvement, imo, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
There is a long list of renames today where the disambiguation "(Nazi)" is used. My kneejerk reaction was to revert them all, but thought better of it and rather come here for more input. Personally I find a) Party membership not really a defining character of a person b) the term Nazi being used as a deregatory term and if the party membership being the most defining characteristic of a person it should be be spelt out more encyclopedic. (P.S. My family is close to a number of Holocaust survivers so there is definetly no loveloss to these people). Any input/comments? Agathoclea ( talk) 21:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Well I would not worry too much about this, I was done with the page moves at this point regardless. But I do not see how this is controversial. It is a FACT that they were members of the Nazi party. It is a characteristic rather than a derogatory or judgmental term. And most Nazis had unique names so it's a non-issue in most cases. I am rather lacking in the skill of providing good examples, as the case can be seen with Mueller, but I stand by the reasoning that people such as Bruno Tesch are more closely identified with Nazism than with the practice of their profession. The Nazi "physicians" are in fact now not physicians due to the fact that they did not conduct an ethical practice of medicine, were stripped of medical licenses, etc. I think of Karl Brandt (Nazi) as being a Nazi who practiced unethical medicine, not as a medical doctor who practiced ethical medicine. Hoops gza ( talk) 05:48, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Regarding Category:Beer Hall Putsch, I do not see how that is OR. For the purposes of that event, the people were either Nazi Party members, collaborators with the Nazi Party, or opposed the Nazi Party. It is listed in their articles which one they were. Hoops gza ( talk) 05:50, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
In the case of Bruno Tesch (Nazi), nothing in the article says that he was "a Nazi". Was he a party member? He was clearly a bad guy, but he might have just been an opportunist who would have sold poison gas to the Communists or whoever -- would that make him a Communist? "Chemist" is supported by the article, "supplier of poison gas" or "supporter of mass murder" would be, but "Nazi" isn't directly supported. Actually, I agree with Bermicourt and Shimgray, and would support reverting all the moves (per WP:BRD). Such moves could then be attempted again via WP:RM if necessary. — Кузьма 討論 10:01, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Now I cannot get Bruno Tesch's page to load at all. I think it's because two people put in redirects. With Gustav Wagner, discussion appears to want to make that the primary topic with a disambiguation for the bobsledder. Hoops gza ( talk) 20:36, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Karl Brandt should also be made into the primary, I don't know why he wasn't to begin with. He is FAR more renowned than anyone else with that name. Hoops gza ( talk) 20:44, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Heinrich Müller should be made into the primary as well. He was the head of the Gestapo. Hoops gza ( talk) 20:52, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
I was in two minds about responding here, but here goes...
Hg may have been over-zealous in making these changes without discussing them, but he has a point. Describing
Bruno Tesch as a chemist, or
Karl Brandt as a physician, when they are notable chiefly as war criminals, is a bit disingenuous. It looks like we are trying to rehabilitate the
bastards, don't you think?
Swanny18 (
talk) 14:22, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
... a rename, or requested move at " Talk:Julia Görges" yet again. I'd appreciate your input. Jared Preston ( talk) 08:11, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
I found a new article, Gerd von Hassler, of a new user who is blocked. Someone should take care of an important person, beyond a machine translation and overlinking? I established at least the link to de, but don't have time for more. Help, please, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Since early in 2010, many editors have assisted in the referencing or removal of over 90% of the Unreferenced Biographies of Living People, bringing the total down from over 50,000 to the current 4,862 (as of 16:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)). Thank you for all of the work you've done to date, but we are now asking for your help in finishing this task. There are two main projects which are devoted to removing UBLPs from en.Wikipedia:
All you have to do is pick your articles and then add suitable references from reliable sources and remove the {{ BLP unsourced}} template. There is no need to log your changes, register or remove the articles from the list. If you need any help, or have any comments, please ask at WP:URBLPR or WT:URBLP.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide. The-Pope ( talk) 16:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, can somebody translate the sections and proof read it so far, I translated what I could. Tibetan Prayer ᧾ 07:09, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I came across two unrelated artists today, Christoph Schlingensief and Johann Kuhnau, who have in common that their articles should be improved. Please help. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello all, the articles on List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (C), List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (A) and List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (U), which are related to this project, are currently undergoing Military history project A-class reviews. Any editor who is interested is invited to help review them. The reviews can be found here: WP:MHPR, while the Military history project A-class criteria can be found here: WP:MHA. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 01:53, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Moin! I thought I'd leave you a hint that this portal has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Military of Germany. Regards, De728631 ( talk) 17:58, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I have been been editing the Emminger Decrees article, and I am in need of some German transliterators, and maybe translators, as well as some people fluent in German to track down the actual laws and regulations referred to as the Emminger Decrees. From what I could gather from German language sources, there are more than just the decree of 4 January 1924, there also being references to 22 and 8 December 1923, 4 January and 13 February 1924. There are likely both laws and regulations issued on the subject, as it seems an enabling law was in effect. The Reichsgesetzblatt (Reich Law Gazette) is online here. Pages 15-22 of Reichsgesetzblatt I being the most important, but any other relevant articles would be great. German language sources (which I cannot use effectively) may also be of help. Again, I only really need transliterations, as I can use Google Translate, although the addition of translations may also be much appreciated. The main reason this is needed is because I need to know what the referenced law/regulations (p. 15-22) says, if the title should be plural or singular, if there is a better name, when the state of emergency ended, when legislative powers reverted to the Reichstag, German language sources, etc. If you need somewhere to put them, put them on my Sandbox. Please and thank you. Int21h ( talk) 08:11, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Date | Source | Title |
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8 December 1923 | RGBl I p. 1179 | Ermächtigungsgesetz Enabling act |
22 December 1923 | RGBl I pp. 1239–1243 | Verordnung zur Beschleunigung des Verfahrens in bürgerlichen Rechtsstreitigkeiten Regulation on the expedition of the proceedings in civil disputes |
4 January 1924 | RGBl I pp. 15–22 | Verordnung über Gerichtsverfassung und Strafrechtspflege Regulation on constitution of the courts and [on] criminal justice |
13 February 1924 | RGBl I p. 117 | Verordnung des Reichspräsidenten über Durchführung der infolge der
Unruhen in Hamburg vom Oktober 1923 anhängigen Strafverfahren Regulation of the Reich President on the execution of the criminal proceedings that are pending due to the unrest in Hamburg in October 1923 |
13 February 1924 | RGBl I pp. 135–150 | Verordnung über das Verfahren in bürgerlichen Rechtsstreitigkeiten Regulation on the proceedings in civil disputes |
Be sure to put reliable English sources up there. I haven't seen any sources mention that it was only suspended for 10 weeks then later reformed. Were both the suspension and later reformation done by the 4 January act? Yes, I have seen the criticisms of the jury system and that it is apparently a widely held view. But I have doubts about how widely held it is, and why. My first guess is that it was been widely held that juries were a problem for the same reasons that it was widely held (pre-WW2) that Jews and communists were a problem. The sources I have read touch on these topics as well, noting that not much discussion either then, or now, was done on the jury system or the layperson system, it was just done by the powers that be and that was that ... there were bigger topics on everyone's tongues at the time. ( hyperinflation, French occupation, Communists, etc.) Int21h ( talk) 23:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
And let me correct myself and say what you probably already knew: the sources positively do not need to be in English. In fact, they will likely be in German given the subject material. Anything that makes the article better or reflects on anything and everything revolving around these ... reforms ... the better. Int21h ( talk) 01:23, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I would like to write on Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg, what would be the appropriate article name, and how would her title and maiden name appear in English? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:17, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
There are still quite a number of concentration camp articles needing geocoding: see User:The Anome/Concentration camp articles needing coordinates for a list of these, and WP:COORD for a guide to geocoding. Many of these are proving difficult to track down, yet all are historically important. Can anyone here help with adding location data to these articles? -- The Anome ( talk) 22:51, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
It appears to have a familly, or royal crest on it. It looks like one of those badges worn on a sashel by German leaders of the time. Anyone with information may contact me via email at, "jakeonmaui@yahoo.com". I can send a picture of it.
Thanks Jake — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.95.215.51 ( talk) 23:30, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Just created "Descendants of Major Nazis". Thought this would be a good index page, especially to articles already on Wikipedia. Would appreciate any input. - OberRanks ( talk) 00:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I just noticed that somebody removed the WPGer tag from the article on U-41. Is there really a duplication? -- FJS15 ( talk) 21:05, 23 June 2011
I have come across Category:Nazi political ranks and I'm not comfortable with it. While I do not dispute that most of the political ranks listed there were actually used by the Nazis, I would like to point out, that a lot of them are still used in present Germany without any link to the Nazi party. Except for Ortsgruppenleiter, Kreisleiter, Gauleiter and Reichsleiter all articles deal with positions which are perfectly normal first or mid-level management roles (e.g. I had a meeting with an Abteilungsleiter (i.e. department manager) just the other day). So I would suggest to add something like (NSDAP) to it (like in Inspekteur (NSDAP)) in order to prevent confusion about the meaning of these words in German. Any objections? -- FJS15 ( talk) 19:21, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Is there any style guide to the translation of titles: courtly titles of the Holy Roman Empire, especially: They're so common in German wikipedia biographies. Saying "privy councillor" for Geheimrat just doesn't sound right. Other phrases like: "mit Diplom...in den Freiherrnstad erhoben" get really tricky because a Diplom is an Adelsbrief and there's simply nothing like it in English. These things keep repeating themselves and it would be great if there was a guide that suggested translations for all these typical phrases.
For academic titles I usually just say "he joined the faculty of xxx in 18xx" instead of listing ten sentences of every single title he had with a university and the years he held it. German can get so hung up on this type of thing: ten sentences of titles, one hinting at why person is actually important, and nothing about the person's style/influence/critical reception/etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TotalFailure ( talk • contribs) 06:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
A new category has been created called " Category:Agencies administered by Heinrich Himmler" with every SS agency added into this category. Heinrich Himmler was the Commander of the entire SS...of course he oversaw the various agencies. In addition, the category itself is very misleading as it suggests Himmler directly commanded the agencies. While he was head of the entire SS, some of the agencies Himmler did not in fact administer on a day to day basis. I would recommend deleting the entire category as overly redundant. - OberRanks ( talk) 04:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
We are also seeing the inserting of the broad category Heinrich Himmler to SS organization articles. I recommend this too be halted. I fear we are headed into an edit war situation, so would like to bring the matter up here. - OberRanks ( talk) 01:42, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Regarding the Category:Heinrich Himmler, I do believe that the following articles should be added to it:
I do not think that any of these additions are debatable save for SS. Hoops gza ( talk) 02:33, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
It does not look like the broader is really being discussed. In any event, the broader definitely should not be deleted and I hope that I would be notified if it were nominated or that a warning would be placed on the category's page. It takes a lot of work to put together a good category. I plan to make a navbox eventually for Himmler. Hoops gza ( talk) 02:52, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
I ran across this article while doing NPP. It seemed kind of strange that such an article would only have been created less than a month ago, as it would seem to be a fairly high-level concept to have started covering years ago. I suspect it should be redirected somewhere, but not sure where, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. I won't be watching this page, so if you need me to comment please ping me on my talkpage. Danke. → ROUX ₪ 20:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
I just came across Municipal association - did we not have a more extensive artice on the subject? If not this needs attention otherwise a redirect. Agathoclea ( talk) 13:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
A new discussion on wording changes to the current guideline to clarify the use of diacritics for subjects whose native names contain them has been initiated. It can be found at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)/Diacritics RfC Ohconfucius ¡digame! 08:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Readers here may be interested in contributing to the discussion at Talk:List of Dukes of Saxony#move. Cheers. - GTBacchus( talk) 23:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
The proposed renaming being discussed at Talk:Wilhelm II, German Emperor#Requested move: To "Kaiser Wilhelm II" may be of interest to members of WikiProject Germany. Favonian ( talk) 22:19, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I think Rape during the occupation of Germany and its talk page could do with a few more eyes.-- Boson ( talk) 16:21, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
An editor is changing references to East and West Germany to Germany on the grounds that "there is no East and West Germany any more". They have however, changed this on the notes re the date of birth of Heidi Klum and Angela Merkel, both of whom were born well before the unification era. I believe that our policy is to record these things as they were at the time, and have left a note on their talk page to that effect. You might wish to keep an eye on this without being too bitey ( seems to be a newbie not understanding the system rather than anything else). Britmax ( talk) 07:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Just a heads up - a thread has been started on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard about the article Johannes von Ronge. The same issue regarding the name appears to affect the Berthe von Rönge article. Please weigh in and help resolve this issue. 75.13.69.146 ( talk) 22:32, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
This page has recently been moved to this location from Betriebssportgemeinschaft (GDR). While I understand the rationale behind that (no parentheses if there is no need for disambiguation), it fails to consider that the article only deals with the specific situation in East Germany, but that there are Betriebssportgemeinschaft-like structures in unified Germany and that there have been such structures in West Germany as well. Thus, the article needs to be expanded in that direction so as to show the whole picture. Additionally, the article has been marked as needing an infobox. Which infobox would be suitable here? Thanks for your feedback. Madcynic ( talk) 16:22, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Although it's been repeated again and again in German sources, the requirement that all foreign articles be marked, in English, with the country of origin (and as a result, "Germany" or "Made in Germany") does not come from the UK's Merchandise Marks Act 1887. It comes from the (US's) McKinley Tariff Act of 1890. Those who do claim the MMA 1887 should please quote the requirement in the Act.
It is most unfortunate that the 1887 belief continues to be spread.
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Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland#Musings_on_Silesian_people_and_categories. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:09, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
This individual is pretty obscure, but a precedent can be set regarding article titles for detitled German nobility. Kauffner ( talk) 17:56, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
There was a short edit war on Munich air disaster. Members of our project might have some input. Agathoclea ( talk) 17:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
See here. Thanks, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 22:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
An der Welle 4, 60322 Frankfurt am Main is where the Frankfurt office of Korean Air is. What districts and subdivisions within the city is it located in? Thanks, WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:50, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
The districts of Frankfurt can be found here. Cs32en Talk to me 04:54, 1 September 2011 (UTC)