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I had the article Sunni Students Federation come up for speedy deletion. It was promotional enough in tone to where I deleted it, but they did assert some notability as far as their numbers go. It looks like there's a huge language barrier here, so I thought I'd drop a note and ask if anyone here would be interested in userfying it and working on it while looking for sources. If anyone is interested, message me on my userspace. I figure I'd ask here again, as I've had some wonderful people come in and help with various other articles that have been up for deletion (or been outright deleted) in various instances. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I have deleted 3 paragraphs which were copy/pasted from a website(which appears to be an unreliable source). This article is in desperate need of reliable sources. Legends and websites are poor sources for writing about this man. I am sure there are some individuals that own some Indian history books written by historians that can be used for this article. Thanks. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 20:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I converted SpaceHub Southeast ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) from Indian English to American English, because this is an American company based out of Atlanta, Georgia. If you think that MOS:RETAIN is more important than MOS:TIES, feel free to revert me. -- 70.24.249.39 ( talk) 09:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I recently happened upon a picture File:Tarapith.JPG, which had been included until recently in three Wikipedia articles: Cremation, Tarapith and Dwarka River. It is still included in three Wikipedia articles, but now they are: Litter, Tarapith and Dwarka River.
I'm posting here because it's hard (at least for me) to ascertain that the picture really illustrates Tarapith and Dwarka River. What is shown is too generic. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 19:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Jitendra Ravia appears to be an autobiography. Is this person notable enough to qualify for an article? If so, the article needs some serious cleanup. If not, it needs to be PRODded or taken to AFD. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 23:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hyderabad is going to be on the main page on September 19. Given the current political turmoil, it is likely to get some attention. Please keep it watch-listed.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 03:41, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Category:Colonial schools in India, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 12:40, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Category:21st-century Indian film actresses, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 12:59, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
The original Young Malang film article was speedy deleted... perhaps without due consideration that otherwise tag-able concerns, including a sense of WP:PEACOCK, were addressable under WP:IMPROVE, WP:ATD and WP:WIP. It was most likely written by a newcomer who lacked understanding of how PEACOCK terms give an unsourced article a very bad reputation. It was then recreated in a much shorter version as YOUNG MALANG by another apparent newcomer and sent immediately to AFD. As the film's production has received significant coverage and the film is due to release on the 20th, I undeleted the original version and moved in into my userspace. I seek assistance in bringing the original into line for a return to mainspace. Who's up for helping improve it? ' Schmidt, Michael Q. 02:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Category:21st-century Indian television actresses, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 12:56, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:Prithviraj Kapoor#Pathan/Pashtun ethnicity of Prithviraj Kapoor. --
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The newly-created article Anjana Om Kashyap needs serious work.
If this person is as well-written about as a Google.com search indicates, there is the possibility of getting this up to WP:Good article status or at least B-class fairly quickly if people familiar with her and who are familiar with what is and is not a reliable source for people in her profession in her country work on it.
My challenge to WikiProject India, should you choose to accept it: Get this up to B-class within a week and if it looks like GA status is feasible, get it to GA within a month. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 14:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello all, this was something I came across and thought would be relevant to you. There has been much sparring and discussion between two editors about several articles related to disputed places between India and China. It began with a CfD nomination regarding Category:Areas occupied by China after the Sino-Indian War. The conclusion was that the category was well-defined and should be retained but could be renamed to a better title. Since then there have been many attempts by one of the editors to remove text and references from the articles and to remove the articles from the category, while the other prefers to retain them. Some of the articles of places that are involved are Lanak Pass, Spanggur Gap, Spanggur Tso, Khurnak Fort, Sirijap, Dehra Compass, Kongka Pass, Galwan River, Chip Chap River, Depsang plains, Demchok and Dêmqog, Ngari Prefecture. Other related articles that have not been edited as much are Events leading to the Sino-Indian War, Sino-Indian War, Aksai Chin, Line of Actual Control, China-India relations and Sino-Indian border dispute. I am not sure, but it appears that the pro-China editor gradually makes articles pro-China over time, while it appears that the other editor has an uncompromising and almost stubborn attitude. Discussion has also been done at Administrators noticeboard, User talk:Jreferee and on all the related talk pages. Perhaps you should keep an eye on these pages. 117.195.122.22 ( talk) 16:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikiproject Rivers Talkpage about renaming articles on some Indian Rivers. Posting this notice here simply for informational purposes (since not many WPINDIA may have that page watchlisted); if interested please add your comments at the WPRIVERS page. Abecedare ( talk) 01:08, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi all! I have a new request, as I'm running into a huge language barrier. I'm trying to write an article for the author Ashok Rajagopalan. I see a blog entry that says that he's worked on over 500 books, which is quite an accomplishment to say the least. (Freaking impressive is more appropriate of an expression, in my opinion.) Problem is, it's a blog and I can't use it. The Hindu has written about him and I have an article from the Deccan Herald, but I need a few more sources from other places to really give solid notability. I know that they have to be out there, but I think that they're in another language since most of his books aren't in English. I think I have enough to merit an entry on the mainspace, but I kind of hit my limit with sourcing in English. Can anyone help hunt for sources as well as for titles of his books? We can't have all 500 books he's worked on, but we can do the most notable ones. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Dear India experts: Can someone check out the references for this article> It has been waiting a long timefor review at Afc. Thanks! — Anne Delong ( talk) 19:44, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
I am pleased to let everyone know that images from the Indian Navy's website can be uploaded and used on Wikipedia, as they have been released under the the CC 2.5 Attribution license, which was kindly confirmed to me by the navy's webmaster. You can check out the template and the OTRS ticket at Template:Indian navy. Thanks! Anir1uph | talk | contrib 10:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Does Pooja Welling show that this person meets WP:GNG, WP:BIO, or WP:ENT? Not being familiar with the films and TV shows in question, I can't really tell. For admins is this a re-creation of the deleted version of this page? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 17:20, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Is Swati Bakshi notable and in need of major de-promotionalizing or is she non-notable? If non-notable, I'll go through PROD/AFD. Otherwise, a major cleanup is in order. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 19:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
It seems like a major collaboration with a University in Goa is beginning! See Times of India. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Could someone with decent resources check out Jahan Shah IV? I did a regular Google search, Google Books, and Google Scholar, but found nothing on the guy. The only cited reference is a book whose title and author also get no results. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 02:02, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey, I recently moved an article into someone's userspace so they coudl work on it. The problem is that I'm not sure how much help I'd be for them since they don't seem to have a firm grasp on English. Their username and subject matter suggests that they're Indian, so I was wondering if one of you could help him out any. His username is User:Vishwanathnjois. Thanks! I think that you guys have to have one of the more solid bases of any of the other WP I've dealt with, so I want to know how much I appreciate everyone's hard work on whatever subject I've posted about here. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:37, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't how long this has been going on, but a clique of WP editors have been pushing "antiquity" on Jainism-related articles. Their sources are shabby, most written by Jains, most works of avocation, than the scholarly efforts of professionals. They are edit-warring on Indus Valley Civilization, attempting to give "historical figure" status to gods or mythical religious figures. They are claiming that the "proto-Shiva" seal of the Indus Valley was the first tirthankara "Rishaba," who in traditional Jain sources was said to be 100 feet tall and had already departed the earth before the birth of the solar system.
They are creating new articles sourced to "matrimonial" sources: Jainism in Southeast Asia.
They are quietly, tiptoeing their third-rate articles into GA status, such as Karma in Jainism, which is making the claim, based on dubious Jain sources that the concepts of "Karma," "Maya," "Samsara," "rebirth," are all Jain concepts, pre-dating Hinduism and Buddhism. The same is being repeated on the page Timeline of Jainism, Neminatha, Rishabha, Buddhism and Jainism, Sramana, and so forth
Sources can be found these days for the craziest assertions. Wikipedia has to make sure that the sources are reliable and the emphasis is not WP:UNDUE. I haven't had the time to look into this, but there seems to be a veritable parallel universe of Jainism-related articles. Could someone please look into this? Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:41, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Hmm... Abhi ( talk) 12:14, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Seems like a fun topic - would make for a nice DYK. If anyone would like to expand it, it would be appreciated! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
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Many people don't distinguish Indians from origin-Indians (Indian-American , -Canadian). See List of Indian Academy Award winners and nominees or List of Indian Christians for such lists. Now I don't understand why they get away with it and there is no mechanism to stop such kind of disruption. I reported someone and the case was simply dropped.-- Dravidian Hero 19:58, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Here are some principal rules which should settle most issues in Lists and other topics:
-- Dravidian Hero 22:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC) I guess the question is what does "Indian" mean? Does it mean national origin? Does one have to be a citizen of India? Does one have to be born in India? Or have at least one parent who is Indian? Would, for example, someone like Jagdish Bhagwati be included in a list of Indian professors at Columbia University? Personally, I'd favor a more inclusive approach along the definitional lines here simply because it would cause less problems but this does need to be hashed out. -- regentspark ( comment) 01:06, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Avoid what. I've repeatedly stated that Indian means citizen of India and there is no other definition for that. If you are refering to this list here from disambuigation page:
These definitions in the disambuigation page are utter crap: 1. So a German immigrant worker in Bangalore is Indian? Basically The same thing that happens in our lists. General pattern is: Keep the definition of Indian as vague as possible so everyone and everything passes as Indian, because India is a great country and India is the great hope of the world and humanity. Indians is different and better than all other countries. I challenge this bullshit.-- Dravidian Hero 15:45, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi. I want to draw your attention to the Partition of India page, which is poorly written, unreferenced and insubstantial. Pakistani editors are seemingly trying to dominate the page with their nationalistic POV and trying to protect the page. It would be great if there was a major collaborative effort to overhaul and improve the page to make it a featured article. Some suggested readings (books) are: Freedom at Midnight (Lapierre & Collins), India Wins Freedom (Abul Kalam Azad) and India from Curzon to Nehru and After (Durga Das). -- Bookishness ( talk) 22:18, 1 October 2013 (UTC)— Bookishness ( talk • contribs) is a confirmed sockpuppet of Crème3.14159 ( talk • contribs). -- SMS Talk 13:32, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
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It seems there is no consistency in naming the articles about assembly elections in India. I found three different formats, e.g. Tamil Nadu legislative assembly election, 2011, Tripura Legislative Assembly election, 2013 and Delhi state assembly elections, 2013. I don't know which one is better than the other, but, I think, editors of WikiProject India should decide this. — Bill william compton Talk 12:18, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
There is a dispute on the talk about WP:POV pushing in lead, WP:UNDUE and incomplete coverage of 2002 Gujarat violence. Please comment in this discussion so a consensus can be reached. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:02, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated List of recognised political parties in India for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. — Bill william compton Talk 07:49, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Asaram's son Narayan Sai has formed a political outfit called Ojaswi Party. As I did not find it notable, I have nominated the article for deletion. Interested people may comment on the AfD discussion. Thanks.--Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 03:24, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion in the Sathya Sai Baba article about the lead, additional input and comments will be much appreciated. - Ugog Nizdast ( talk) 18:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Is assessing articles for quality and importance, by the main contributor of the article allowed? If no, is there any policy about it?--Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 04:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Would someone be kind enough to take a look at Kollemcode, where an IP continues to add unreferenced (though not necessarily inaccurate) information to the article, and to display very little understanding of the need for WP:RS. This edit summary: "This is all genuine information. If you are looking for references from website then why do we need wiki?" sums up the nature of the problem. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 09:57, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
I have been looking at images in the Gandhi, Nehru, and Bose pages and realizing that many don't have valid license tags or correct sources, or both. For example,
So, I would like to urge editors uploading India-related pictures to not simply provide a source on the web (a blog or a newspaper etc.), but find the actual copyright information (photographer). Indian newspapers, typically do not publish copyright information or credit the photographer, especially for old pictures. So a picture found on the Hindu or Times of India does not mean it was taken by someone on the newspaper staff, or even taken by an Indian. In fact, typically, as I am finding, most old pictures of Gandhi and Nehru, have been taken by American photographers working for Life/Time, ACME, AP, etc. Finding the actual copyright information requires some sleuthing, e.g. it is a good idea to check Corbis, Life/Time archives, and eBay (which often has copyright info for pictures being sold). Otherwise, your picture will eventually deleted and you'll unnecessarily burden others who have to do the cleaning up.
Another bigger issue is that there is a tag on Commons, PD-India-photo-1958, which seems to be claiming that anything created (not necessarily published) in India before 1958 is in the public domain worldwide. This, as far as I can tell, is incorrect. The copyright laws in India for images are governed by three Acts and an international agreement:
So in summary, for an image taken and published in India by an Indian photographer, the key dates are:
If a picture does not meet either of these conditions, it cannot be uploaded on Commons, unless of course it is available under another Commons license (such as on Flickr) etc.
However, all pictures published between 29 December 1941 and 1 January 1953, can still be uploaded on Wikipedia (with tag PD-India; they just cannot go on Commons. (As I stressed earlier: If the picture is not taken by an Indian photographer, especially if it is first published, say, in the US (as in Life, UPI, AP pictures), none of this applies; you have to proceed by US Copyright law.)
Request: Can someone make a Commons template that says this clearly and get rid of PD-India-photo-1958, which is wrong? Also, could someone examine the wording of ICA 1957 and CAB 1992, the copyrights usually end at the beginning of a year. So, the dates I've stated above might need to be rounded off or corrected a little. Thanks Fowler&fowler «Talk» 11:29, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Pease add your comments below:
Namaste, most of you must be aware of INS Arihant. The problem is that we don't have any real-time images of the submarine. The only image we have is this one which was released by the UPA Government some time ago. Nobody in the internet hold the copyright over this image. Almost all news agencies of the world freely use this image with a little credit to the govt. But I'm not sure on what basis to upload it, Public Domain or Fair-Use. Surely the govt released it offline for the people to see it....... Help on whether to upload it for fair-use or free use would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, ƬheStrike Σagle sorties 15:06, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Is this notable? Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Paramarsh Regards, FoCuSandLeArN ( talk) 11:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Usually sidebars are made when topic is big and has many articles. I don't think too many articles will ever be created related to an individual actor. But User:NextSaagar is inserting sidebars in articles of many actors. Is it OK? Abhi ( talk) 11:52, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
What exactly are the standards for a topic/person to have a sidebar? NextSaagar ( talk) 13:41, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Is User:LogX also in business of creating and adding EXACTLY same sidebar? [3] [4] Abhi ( talk) 12:09, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
@LogX Brad Pitt article was promoted in June 2010 and that sidebar was created in Sept 2013. I just removed it from Brad Pitt article. After studying your edit history, I don't think you got anything to do with NextSaagar. It is your bad luck that he copied your sidebar behaviour. Pls remove those sidebars, propose templates for deletion yourself and end this matter. Sorry and thanks.
Abhi (
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20:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
I have encountered some problem articles.
Problem: All these articles contain large chunks of copyright text and also same text pasted in multiple articles. I have already removed some of the overlapping text and some of the copyrighted material where source was easily available. But I am afraid, that way, nothing much will be left in each of these. As the topics seems important, I request people knowledgeable about the topic to check these article and remove violations. Note: I have nominated Koch Rajbongshi Royal Family at AfD as it contains hardly anything related to the royal family. If someone is willing to re-write it, I will withdraw nomination.--Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:37, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Jayadeva, Jayadeva in Sikhism and Jayadeva birth controversy all provide a POV position on his birthplace. Now it is likely correct [8] but it is disputed. I'm not convinced that in a dispute between whether he was born in Orissa and Bengal we should use official Orissa government sources. Dougweller ( talk) 10:42, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Regarding this requested move is there any previous discussion/consensus on this noticeboard, when to use full name and when only surname? Solomon 7968 10:15, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey guys, I'm here to ask for help with another article, Cuckold (book). It's by Kiran Nagarkar and looks to be well known in India from what I can find. I'm running into some problems with sources, but another problem is that I'm a little swamped with schoolwork and I think I'm getting the flu. I'd hate to only give half the energy I normally can to this and I'm afraid of misreading something because I'm distracted for several reasons. Can anyone help out with this that is familiar with the work? Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Can someone familiar with Rajasthan check the recent (October 2013) changes to Vijaynagar tehsil for factual accuracy? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 16:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Achrach is a new stub article (created by another editor) that I'm having difficulty locating sources for. Any help to locate and add reliable sources to the article (and also to expand it) is appreciated. Cheers, Northamerica1000 (talk) 06:21, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join treasure hunt. Thank you. Abhi ( talk) 15:48, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
I request some user to check grammar in the above article. One user has edit-warred to remove half of the contents from '19th century' section in this version of the article claiming too many grammatical errors. Thanks. Abhi ( talk) 17:06, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi folks, I would like to propose that editors familiar with subject matter that might include K. V. Mahadevan please take a look at the article, and perhaps make contact with user Sugram to explain some of the expectations that Wikipedia has regarding original research, sourcing, personal interpretation, etc. I previously had to warn him for a significant copyvio, and I'm starting to wonder from where he is getting the massive data tables he is submitting to various articles. We're not at RfC/U status yet, I just think that maybe some friendly, helpful voices familiar to him might help inspire some change. I am not familiar with Indian cinema, etc, so my effectiveness is limited to reciting policy and reverting unsourced edits, where I think that WikiProject India interest might help produce better articles. Thanks all! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 07:51, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
I today noticed that Swami Agnivesh article is titled as Agnivesh. Although Smawi is honorific, but it is almost part of his name and I have never seen him anywhere being referred as only Agnivesh. Shouldn't the article be moved?--Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 06:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
The public domain Indian Biographical Dictionary (1915) by C. Hayavadana Rao ( wikisource transcription project) is now fully available on wikisource thanks to Billinghurst, GreyHead et al. It is good resource for articles on biographies of Pre-1947 individuals. Solomon 7968 09:04, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I still need to transcribe all the pages through to the main namespace, and build an index page, and will get started on it on the weekend. It won't be quick. We will also need to build a citation template, probably {{cite IndianBio}} template similar to something like {tlx|cite IrishBio}}. At Wikisource, please do add a wikipedia = ...
line in the header template for respective articles. Of course, the work still needs validation, so please don't be shy to go and give the transcriptions a second proofread, amend as necessary and then validate the page; see
s:Help:Proofreading. —
billinghurst
sDrewth
13:53, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Hullo India experts. A questioner at the Reference Desk is asking for info on Ravan's grandson. The question. Can anyone here go over and help them? Taknaran ( talk) 13:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
There's been an edit war going on in the article for a few days. Someone with knowledge of the subject is invited to visit the article and the talk page! — Spaceman Spiff 08:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, There is a deletion request made for Category:Days of the year in India. I think the pages in this category will help to collect events happened in India. Please give your comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/17 October in India. -- Neechalkaran ( talk) 05:57, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Another editor created Category:Jamia Arabia islamia Nagpur, which appears to be copied in part from Jamia Islamia Bhatkal. If the article is a hoax, it should be deleted and the creator warned or blocked. If it is not a hoax, then it will need to be moved to article space and cleaned up. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 03:24, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Notable or not? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 22:59, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
I've been trying to figure out what to do with Kamtapur which started as an article about a demand for a new state [9] and then had history added to it which is just plain confusing and seems to belong elsewhere. Now we have some new articles created by Surjit23 ( talk · contribs), Kamatapur movement and Kamatapur State, all of which seem to be about the same subject that is where Kamtapur started (these seem to be simply variant spellings). I've discussed some of this with User:RegentsPark at User talk:RegentsPark#Can you make sense of these? and I'll ping User:Abecedare, User:Sitush and User:SpacemanSpiff who I think know about some of this. It's my guess that we now have 3 not terribly good articles where we only need one decent one. Note I reverted this edit [10] by the new editor which I think further validates my view. I'll emphasise that this is (I assume, you never know) a new editor who has also created a probably non-notable article, Golapariya Folk Song Dougweller ( talk) 10:43, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone have access to The Great Moghuls (1971) by Bamber Gascoigne? I've got a copyright concern. - Sitush ( talk) 16:23, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
A group of POV editors (or simply a very prolific dynamic IP) have decided that the article must be updated with every detail that can be scraped up from any news item.
additional eyes would be appreciated to ensure this does not become a WP:COATRACK. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm struggling to determine whether Kumaoni is an ethnicity or something else. Can anyone enlighten me? Kumaoni people is a bit vague, seemingly mixing up linguistic features, place of birth, where someone lives etc. - Sitush ( talk) 07:38, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
The above article is heavy on propaganda. Can someone with the knowledge, time and patience tone it down? Thanks — Ramit (talk) 10:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
For anyone interested in commenting: link to SPI. Abecedare ( talk) 15:24, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Please kindly see the article /info/en/?search=Shiva Also see the talk page. . is it some editors dominating?!. Neutral editors could you look at the page?!Thank you all Eshwar.om Talk tome 18:37, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments Mr Joshua. i hope It makes me better in further.experience is a great teacher.some times lessons gives a chance to us to face the difficult situation. Thank you. Eshwar.om Talk tome 08:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Quite a few of our dynastic articles, such as Kakatiya_dynasty, seem to use paired templates such as {{ APhistory}} and {{ HistoryOfSouthAsia}}. These are pretty big boxes and quite often swamp the article. In the Kakatiya instance, they help to force the images so far below the article that I'm doubtful whether anyone usually sees them.
Somewhere, some time in the past, I queried whether we needed to pair these things and, if we did, whether they could be collapsible. Alas, I can't find that thread. I'm not particularly familiar with template stuff and thought I'd restart the conversation here, although I realise that it will probably have to be moved to the talk pages of the various templates eventually. If some sort of consensus can be formed here then I can reference it at the other pages. - Sitush ( talk) 11:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
User:The Rahul Jain has created article Jain-Hindu relations after his article for creation was declined repeatedly Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jainism and Hinduism [19]. It may be noted he has just changed the title after a similar earlier attempt failed earlier- please see the link [20] when twice such and article name Jain and Hindu religion was deleted. Is it not again the recreation of deleted article again by him by another name. Is this article not a criteria for Speedy deletion??? Jethwarp ( talk) 14:42, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Happy Diwali to all the editors, stalkers, watchers, and lurkers who hang out here! Some tech-savvy person should make a "Happy Diwali" template we can all use.-- regentspark ( comment) 20:17, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I've got a problem at Ghuman and am fed up of it. Anyone care to advise? I've already been to WP:RFPP once today and really don't want to go there again. I may be wrong, after all. - Sitush ( talk) 01:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear Editor,
Hi.I am new to editing Wikipedia and have a few days ago edited misinformation on facts about my husband Prithiveeraj's page.there was misrepresentation of data starting with the spelling of his name,his birth place,his career graph & photos.I have edited and put in the correct information and i believe there cannot be a more reliable source other than the person's spouse.I am unable to edit the spelling in the url.Please help me in this.the confusion in wrong facts could also have arisen because there is another actor by the same name although with a different spelling.I would request you to let everybody be able to now access correct information about my husband Prithiveeraj alias Babloo
Thank you
Beena Prithiveeraj Beenaprithiveeraj ( talk) 12:27, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
What does the phrase "Indian renaissance" actually mean? It is used here. - Sitush ( talk) 14:08, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Another editor has created the article South Delhi Municipal Corporation. Should this be merged into South Delhi? Should new articles be created for North Delhi Municipal Corporation and East Delhi Municipal Corporation? Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
The Savarkar article has undergone some edits which at first look, seems contentious and probably needs to be reviewed by someone who has dealt with this article before. Would anyone take a look? Thanks, Ugog Nizdast ( talk) 05:46, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Invitation to offer additional opinions at This Discussion Page re: Merger Proposal of Macchanu To Makardhwaja; Reason: "These seem to be covering the same person in separate versions (Indian ver. and southeast Asian ver.) of the same epic, but some believe them to be different person."
Additional comments welcome. Thank you. Please re-post as necessary. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 05:27, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
There is a lot of back-and-forth going on regarding the claimed Brahmin status of the Bhumihar community. One or more anons keep removing the claim from related articles and, to be fair to them, the only source being used appears to be Sahajanand Saraswati, who was himself apparently a Bhumihar. More sources are available in the Bhumihar article itself but many of those, too, look to be either not independent of the community or dependent on the view of Sarasawati. Alas, I can't see many of them in any detail.
Is the claim a major issue or just a bit of caste battling? Can we really rely on Saraswati, given his non-independent position. I suspect that he is not reliable but there is no point in trying to engage the IPs on the article talk pages because they never seem to leave edit summaries and come and go very quickly. - Sitush ( talk) 14:57, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Can this recently deleted article (contents at User:The_Rahul_Jain/Jain-Hindu_relations) moved back to main article space? Rahul Jain ( talk) 20:50, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone besides me think there are some problems with this article? Also found Anuj Dhar, who created the organisation - his article tells us that " Dhar and Mission Netaji have been fighting to bring out the truth," about Subhas Chandra Bose. Dougweller ( talk) 15:21, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
There is a whole eco-system of related articles:
that seem to be coatracks for discussing alternate theories of Bose's death. These theories are definitely not the accepted majority view amongst scholars, but I don't know yet where they lie along the minority view, fringe, whacko-conspiracy-theory spectrum. While the topic may be notable enough and worth covering, any suggestion on if/how these articles need to cleaned up or selectively merged? Abecedare ( talk) 17:24, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
They should be AfD'd ASAP. It use to be said about large mid-western state schools, "Pick any face in Hollywood, stand in the college quads for 15 minutes and you'll see some one with that face walk past you." Similarly, in a large country of 1 billion people, what are the chances that you'll run into someone who looks like Subhas Bose. Quite high. We can't have that many loony-bin Bose-related pages on Wikipedia. The server will break down. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 03:09, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
I didn't blank a page, I followed WP:VERIFY policy, "Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed. Whether and how quickly this should happen depends on the material and the overall state of the article. ... Do not leave unsourced or poorly sourced material in an article if it might damage the reputation of living people or existing groups, and do not move it to the talk page." I am perfectly within my right. When an article is so irredeemably third-rate and unsourced, you don't go around adding cn tages to every clause within every sentence, you remove the nonsense. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Please don't make me throw up. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 20:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)Apart from the Free India Centre, Bose also had another rea-son to feel satisfied—even comfortable—in Berlin. After months of residing in a hotel, the Foreign Office procured a luxurious residence for him along with a butler, cook, gardener and an SS-chauffeured car. Emilie Schenkl moved in openly with him. The Germans, aware of the nature of their relationship, refrained from any involvement. The following year she gave birth to a daughter. The residence quickly became a gathering point for the Indian, Arab and Afghan communities in Berlin. Among them they included the ousted Prime Minister of Iraq, Rashid Ali al-Gaylani, the exiled Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Moham-mad Amin al-Husayni, and the former Afghan Foreign Minister, Ghulam Siddiq Khan. The comfort, combined with the presence of Emilie as well as contact with important anti-British leaders, exiles and the Indian staff, ensured that Bose now began feeling more at 'home' in Berlin." (Hayes, Romain (2011), Subhas Chandra Bose in Nazi Germany: Politics, Intelligence and Propaganda 1941-1943, Oxford University Press, p. 67, ISBN 978-0-19-932739-3, retrieved 7 November 2013
Folks, this is all very interesting. But, we deal with sources and weight here, not with personal opinions about who was or was not whatever he or she was or was not. Do try to stick to what works best for Wikipedia. -- regentspark ( comment) 20:54, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Strongly considering something which would see us redirect most of our articles on Indian and Pakistani villages to lists by district until somebody can create a half decent article on them and strictly control growth on Indian/Pakistan villages. They're hugely problematic and magnets for all sort of crap. There's way too many to cleanup and given that most of them are unsourced I don't think it would be a problem to delete or redirect most of them. Would you support a mass effort to eliminate the problem? They're one of the poorest areas of wikipedia IMO. It's embarrassing for the good editors of WP:India and WP:Pakistan who are trying to write articles to a high standard. Obviously each article would be checked before redirecting and the very few half decent articles which exist would remain.
In India and Pakistan's case we're presented with a rare problem. High Internet access and the fact that a lot of people added to these villages are from rural areas with a poor command of English and what wikipedia is about. They gradually degrade the articles with ugly lists and POV over time because we lack the editors to control, monitor and nurture them. The scale of the problem means that you can't even begin to start cleaning them up and hoping to make good progress. I can't put them all on my watchlist, I already have over a 1000 articles and a lot of the changes even in those I'm not really monitoring. We have several thousand articles like this, here's a random
Naya Lahore :not referenced at all, poorly formatted, poorly written, not much information other than trivia.
Do we want thousands of "articles" like this, or would they be best nuked/incubated or redirect until somebody can write a clean sourced article and put it on their watchlist? I'm not disputing the notability of any of them, but we have a duty to provide an encyclopedia and thousands of articles like this are unacceptable and we need to eradicate the problem and start controlling an area vulnerable to extremely poor editing. Certainly stubs like Puralal are magnets for shoddy editing, but I'd rather they were useless stubs like that than hijacked articles with tons of POV about local "famous" taxi drivers and doctors.We're better off redirecting most of them to districts and keep only articles on major Indian/Pakistani cities and towns until somebody can write a half decent article. The cleanup should begin with blasting the thousands of stubs and bog standard articles on Indian villages and start with cleaning up the major cities of India and Pakistan and them put on watchlists. Then articles can gradually be restored once somebody can be bothered to write one properly and monitor it and put on watchlists. I feel that the mess created is a let down to the fluent, capable editors who edit Indian articles on here and are struggling to improve quality here. The scale of the task needs reducing and to gradually build it up with a higher proportion of quality.
If there are no objections to me redirecting unsourced and super poor quality articles to the districts i'll begin next week with ploughing through Andhra Pradesh.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:07, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
A sourced table with coordinates with a summary option would definitely be the way to go Solomon, Aymatth and Sitush I think. As Aymatth says that would discourage long lists of schools and glorified locals and businesses and would take away the redundancy of a lot of the empty pointless stubs as Sitush says and they could also go on watchlists instead of having to watch thousands of separate stubs. I agree that most of the info is dubious and it should probably be deleted or sourced if it can be and is fairly decent. How can we organize something though given the scale of it. It would surely take a while to even tackle one district of India and Districts of India look how many of them are. The articles on the smaller towns which may be half decent half nonsense perhaps they'd be better incubated until they can be restored with fully checked and sourcing content. What I'd like to see is a full and controlled/organized cleanup job, redirecting all of the problematic village/town articles to lists by districts and then beginning a cleanup of the major cities and towns first and then gradually working through to the smaller towns. Something which is manageable as a group. Browse through as many village articles in as many states and districts as you can and you'll see the extent of the problem and why drastic action is needed. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:05, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
We both agree that places are notable, but until somebody can write a decent sourced article to show why they're notable the articles are still hugely problematic. I'd rather not have the article than one full of disinformation and people promoting themselves and their community in often incoherent English.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:48, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I did once concentrate on stub building true Edison, but the reality is that it's a waste of time as few of them get expanded and in India/Pakistan's case make them a magnet for crap. I agree with Sitush's perspective on the situation. I see having thousands of empty unsourced stubs as problematic in India's case especially it that they're not only useless encyclopedia entries but also massive magnets for shite. It would be nice to have 638,000 FA quality articles on Indian villages, and to have a decent article on every settlement in the world but it just isn't practical to do so without the numbers needed to monitor and nurture them. The " Unreferenced local knowledge (lists of cultural institutions, schools, bus lines) could be removed if unreferenced. " approach doesn't work because at some point they get readded. Trust me, I cleaned up quite a lot of the Karnataka towns and villages a while back and put them all on my watchlist and even now I'm finding I have too many articles to monitor and wipe clean again and they're becoming infested again. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to try to make a model list for one district at List of populated places in Adilabad district. May take a week or two to complete but I want to demonstrate how much better it is to reduce the redundancies and shoddy articles in favour of something like this. Somebody feel free to continue to add the coordinates for Madaram onwards♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
@ Dr. Blofeld The real problem is to identify the references needed to build an article in first place. A simple Google Books search lists two books for Adilabad district:
Note that neither the town (with 3 ref) and the district (with 15 ref) uses the two books as references. My feeling is that there are book length references for every district in India (which may not be the case for other Asian countries). A potential Bibliography by districts in India may be a great resource for the project. Solomon 7968 17:18, 4 November 2013 (UTC) Solomon 7968 17:05, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
That's one of the biggest problems with wikipedia right now Abhi, "other people will improve it, don't worry things will improve". Well I've been here 7 and a half years Abhi and the average quality for India and Pakistan has not improved, in fact the extent of the unsourced poorly formatted info has grown and will continue to do so as Internet access to more rural areas increases. For every decent editor here taking articles to GA there's dozens being expanded with garbage. Meanwhile thousands of articles contains material which is an embarrassment to the project and may well contain gross POV, unfounded claims and other garbage. It is up to WP:India to try to improve the situation. We have a duty as an encyclopedia to provide accurate, coherent and well sourced information, and if thousands of the articles are incoherent and poorly written/structured then we're failing to write an encyclopedia. You've actually answered my reasoning for why a lot of the villages should be redirected to lists "Info about almost every village is available on the net and everybody has access to the net. This is not the case with India. " If the villages don't have any reliable sources to write them, why should they have an article? They should be redirected to lists until they do actually have decent sources and info available, wouldn't that make more sense Abhi? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:55, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Better to have often false, misleading unencyclopedic gibberish, gross POV and occasionally libelous info about locals in an article than for the article to be redirected to a sourced list with encyclopedic details and monitored on watchlists? What nonsense.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:24, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello again, India experts! The above article makes many references to a source, "Hari Har Saran Lal" that is not clear. Is this a book? Can someone find the identifying information for this source? — Anne Delong ( talk) 06:50, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear India experts: These two articles show the same spot on the map, but the descriptions don't match. Which is correct? Or are there two towns with the same name? — Anne Delong ( talk) 01:17, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
If I apply google search like Dharmadhyaksha or reverse image search, I can tag thousands of BH images for copyvio. As I said on talkpage of Dharmadhyaksha, I guess freelance photographers cover bollywood events and sell same images to different websites. So same image has multiple copyright owners. It is better to contact BH and sort out this issue, otherwise users like Dharmadhyaksha will keep googling and will keep tagging almost EVERY BH image for deletion and hundreds of articles will be without images. Abhi ( talk) 14:19, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
We have many inactive portals under our project. Portal:Chennai is one example. While it's good to have portals for developed topics, we don't seem to have sufficient enthusiasm to even develop our existing articles. I'm suggesting that we look into deleting (by MfD process) some of these portals so that we can at least start focusing on the articles and also the more important portals such as Portal:India etc. Comments? — Spaceman Spiff 08:44, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
{{
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or better yet {{
Hysterical}}
and be done with it. At the least I hope we get consensus to remove these inactive portal links from articles to avoid unintended traffic to them. —
Spaceman
Spiff
13:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
I just created a stub version of 2001 Census of India, based on two references. Those references contain a lot more detail than what I had time to include. If the topic interests you, please consider contributing to the article. 68.165.77.124 ( talk) 00:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear India experts: This article was declined at Afc and then copied into mainspace. It was tagged with multiple problems, but hasn't been improved. Is this person notable? If so, would someone like to fix up the tone and format of the article? — Anne Delong ( talk) 22:00, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Could need a couple of editors pruning the promo and sorting out the big bunch of URLs found in the Ref section with the subtitle Complaints. Happy editing. Sam Sailor Sing 10:37, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Am I missing something? 2 users said that ONLY boxofficeindia.com is used as RS to quote box office collections of movies [27] [28], meaning that absolutely every other source like Indian Express, CNN-IBN, India Today, Times of India etc is unreliable. Figures of boxofficeindia.com are in sharp contrast with main stream media figures and also with those given by Taran Adarsh and Komal Nahta. Diff is almost 50 cr for India. Is there some discussion which states that only boxofficeindia.com figures should be used in articles? Abhi ( talk) 15:51, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear India experts: The above article will soon be deleted as a stale draft. I can't tell if there is any reason to save it. Can anyone help? — Anne Delong ( talk) 12:56, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Radhe Maa
There are a lot of India-related drafts up for G13 deletion if nobody takes an interest in them. I have saved several that are about professors and scientists, since information about these is easier for me to understand. — Anne Delong ( talk) 14:08, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
I have started discussion on this topic on the talk page of Ayurveda. The link is this. As Ayurveda is considered as Indian medicine, some of the editors might be interested to comment on it. I would like to request experienced editors from India to throw light on this topic so that the article can be further edited with the help of guidance. Thanks. Have a nice day. -- Abhijeet Safai ( talk) 07:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
A User is pushing clear WP:FRINGE in the page, Indian Astronomy, while ignoring every other source, the discussion can be viewed at talk page, all opinions/contribution are welcomed. Justicejayant ( talk) 04:42, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Hinduism#Denominations and History of Hinduism#Advaita Vedanta contain poorly or unrefrenced info on the Smarta tradition and Shankara:
However, academics categorize contemporary Hinduism into four major denominations: Vaishnavism, Shaivism, Shaktism and Smartism.
The Western conception of what Hinduism is has been defined by the Smarta view; many Hindus, who may not understand or follow Advaita philosophy, in contemporary Hinduism, invariably follow the Shanmata belief worshiping many forms of God. One commentator, noting the influence of the Smarta tradition, remarked that although many Hindus may not strictly identify themselves as Smartas but, by adhering to Advaita Vedanta as a foundation for non-sectarianism, are indirect followers.[246]
History of Hinduism#Advaita Vedanta:
The introduction of Advaita Vedanta by Adi Shankara unified the theistic sects into a common framework of Shanmata system.
[Sankara] was a major cause in the revival and integration of Sanatana Dharma. Shankara's reform essentially eclipsed all earlier schools of Hindu philosophy and became the nucleus of the mediaeval traditions, including Smartism and Sant Mat lineages,[48] that lead up to the current religion.
they paved the way for Vedanta to be the dominant and most widely followed tradition among the schools of Hindu philosophy.
These quotes raise several questions:
Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello! Sachin Tendulkar's 200th and last test match scheduled on Nov 14-18 brings his retirement from all types of cricket forms. I am extremely bad with cricket and hence would request you all to take to editing the article, general cleanups and then add more about this match. Scheduled at home-ground Wankhede, the event is going to be a huge one and with that we can nominate it for WP:In the news to feature on main page. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 12:21, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Jayadeva birth controversy . True history shouldn’t be modified by some one’s conspiracy. In free India we expect the truth should be transparent and same for all. So please intellectual of India/Universe discuss about the same and conclude the truth. If Bengal have no strong history , the true history of India should not be modified. Need more discussion as the article being edited many time. All Indian and International Historian are agree with the view of Odisha Origin with all evidence including his own writing form Geetgovind, Archaeological evidence, Evidence based on medieval manuscripts. But still some people claiming for Bengal by giving only evidence from a book just written in 1803. We can refer Jayadeva in Sikhism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanmaya cs ( talk • contribs) 13:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
If any one is interested in editing The Right to Fair Compensation and Transparency in Land Acquisition, Rehabilitation and Resettlement Act, 2013 may pitch in. The article was written when the Act was still in its preliminary stage and need serious editing, from correction of minute figures, to addition of new/modified provisions. Moreover, I am not sure whether the criticism section still hold true for the modified Act. Any further discussion may be continued at the article's talk page. Amartyabag TALK2ME 14:51, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Can some editors familiar with Tamil/Telugu films (and reliable sources in the area) take a look at this article currently at AFD, and determine if it is about a genuinely notable subject, or a fluffed up bio ? The article will need to be cleaned-up even if the subject turns out be notable. Abecedare ( talk) 02:27, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
The article on Jain-Hindu relations has recently been allowed to be recreated. Requesting comments on the draft User:The_Rahul_Jain/Jain-Hindu_relations2. Specifically, what improvements must be made before it can be moved to main article space? Please continue the discussion at Talk:Hinduism_and_Jainism. Rahul Jain ( talk) 10:50, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
-- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:23, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
(xec)I think an article that explores the relationship between Hinduism and Jainism is not a bad idea. Making it neutral is what we've all got to do. I've suggested that RJ delete one of the two articles - perhaps the one in userspace - so that we don't end up with two versions of the same thing and then we can all move ahead with shaping the article itself. There do seem to be references (I have Glasenapp in front of me right now) that discuss the topic.-- regentspark ( comment) 14:33, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
I have copied the contents of User:The Rahul Jain/Jain-Hindu relations2 and its talk page on the main article Hinduism and Jainism, so that we essentially have one article to contribute to. I think this would first solve the problem of multiple article which Abecedare was referring. Rahul Jain ( talk) 16:27, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Since RJ has copied the contents over to Hinduism and Jainism, why don't we rename the article to Jainism and Hinduism - seems more appropriate than the other way round; delete the userspace version; and the wait and see how the mainspace article evolves. Looking through the history of the article (which goes back more than 6 years!) it seems that the next step for removal would be an AfD anyway. Might as well give the article a fair shot before we head in that direction.-- regentspark ( comment) 17:00, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
DRV outcome. - Sitush ( talk) 17:23, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
So where are we then? Should we work on the userspace version - perhaps renaming it to Jainism and Hinduism (the current title is definitely not appropriate)? If everyone is agreed, I'll delete the mainspace version but we need to recognize that the article does need to go through the AfD process at some point if it is to be deleted again and we can't really keep it in userspace for ever unless people are actually working on it. -- regentspark ( comment) 17:34, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
OK. I've deleted the mainspace article and moved the userspace one to [[ User:The_Rahul_Jain/Jainism and Hinduism. The article is being incubated, which means that everyone has a shot at building/modifying/discussing it but it also means that it will go into mainspace once discussion and editing has died down. -- regentspark ( comment) 19:19, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Sab Ke Anokhe Awards is an award show of SAB TV. This is one of the wiki project of India. This wiki needs wiki project india support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.99.140.9 ( talk) 15:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
I want support of wikiproject india for my Article. This is one of the wikiproject, Television shows had a permission to create on Wikipedia. So I ask for get wikiproject india support.-- Krishnadahal12 ( talk) 00:11, 18 November 2013 (UTC) User:Krishnadahal12.
I came across MTV Roadies (season 11) during my new page patrolling duties and thought it was a clear crystal ball type article. However, one thing has made me unsure, and that is that the series already has 6 articles for previous seasons (with an additional 4 seasons without articles) which would make the program notable. I am erring on the side of going through it, putting any appropriate tags on and moving on, but I would appreciate some input. -- Skamecrazy123 ( talk) 11:05, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
The section of "Titles and honorifics" in the guideline Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indic) lists few titles/honorifics, which i think should also include examples along with them. I have started a discussion about it at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Indic)#.22Titles and honorifics.22 to include examples of exceptions. I suppose that page is less frequented and hardly watched. Hence this note here. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 09:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I don't know what to make of Sanat Kumara. Dougweller ( talk) 17:43, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Could someone keep an eye on this article. The only source is a translation of the Mahabharata so I slashed it drastically as WP:OR. But, I suspect, it'll grow again. -- regentspark ( comment) 03:53, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
This seems to be a hot topic at Shiva, Indus Valley Civilization and Pashupati, perhaps others. They really should all say the same thing and be NPOV, which isn't easy. Dougweller ( talk) 07:33, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
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Is there any reason to allow all these red links in List of newspapers in India ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)? Most of the film production/director etc lists have only blue links, although those are of course people. It just means anyone can add anything (even if it doesn't exist). Dougweller ( talk) 15:02, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Could do with some input at Talk:India Against Corruption#Neutrality. Thanks. - Sitush ( talk) 20:27, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
What does mofussil mean? It appears in quite a few articles - eg: Tambaram Sanatorium - and I'm getting the impression that it might be equivalent to "suburban" or similar. - Sitush ( talk) 17:46, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
For your reading pleasure, @ Sitush:, may I recomend, Life in the Mofussil, or, The Civilian in Lower Bengal by G. Graham, 1878, especially page 17 (Mutton Club) and page 19 (Ice club). Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
I exmined and noted down referencing related issues for one indic article.(Please see: Talk:Flora Fountain).I am presently stuying lack of referencing in other indic language projects like mr and hi and how do we address those issues as an indic wikipedian community.
This tool server cleanup list data provides for stats on references and citations issues and in roughly 10% articles seems to have been challenged for lack/quality of references and citations issues.When total 54% articles in the project are listed for clean up,only 10% articles do need improvement in referencing.Where as in USA project 28% articles are listed for cleanup but there too articles challenged for references and citations stands roughly around 10%.What do we make out of these stats . Whether Indic articles are really at par with best of wiki project vis a vis references and citations ? or do we have any issues on Indic artilces side.If we do have any issues on Indic side,according to you what are those ?
Mahitgar ( talk) 10:12, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Need_of_inline_Refimprove_template here I left a template creation request. I feel such a template will be usefull for indic sourced content from time to time.
Mahitgar ( talk) 05:29, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Shakya has been getting attention from a bunch of anons and known troublesome other users over the last few months. Do we need to take it back or is there sufficient in the changes to warrant selective amendments? - Sitush ( talk) 08:52, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Concerning Tehelka: Requesting any editors interested in this topic which has been in the news lately, to take part in this discussion involved between me and another user. We could sure use a third opinion. Any help is much appreciated, Ugog Nizdast ( talk) 08:36, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
In India-related (and surrounding countries) articles, I often find and correct missing spaces around punctuation. For example:
What's behind this? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 00:05, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
(I also posted at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks#The Mystery of the Missing Spaces.) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 00:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I'd would appreciate general thoughts regarding infoboxes for articles concerning ongoing elections. I made some comments here and have been reverted here. Apparently, it is "standard" but I see WP:DUE/ WP:NPOV issues and just because it happens somewhere else ... - Sitush ( talk) 13:24, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi! If anyone is interested, comments will be highly appreciated in this peer review. Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 05:50, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
English_exonyms#India. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. In ictu oculi ( talk) 04:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Note:This comment is left at the talk page of WP:INDIA and WP:RELIGION.
There is a dispute at the page Criticism of Jainism. A claim was added by User:Bladesmulti regarding dayananda's views on Jainism. [30] It used a primary source which I hence removed. It was re-added with another reference. [31]. Here is the precise quote from the reference now provided:
The views of Dayanand Saraswati towards other religions as expressed in Satyarth Prakash was strongly condemnatory, predominantly negative and positively intolerant and negative. Jorden observes, "there is quite a lot of sarcastic bitterness" in the criticism of other religions. Dayanand called Jainism a "most dreadful religion" the founders and followers of which are "in dense ignorance". Their tirthankaras were ignorant. Dayanand condemned Christianity as a hollow religion. A barbourous religion and a false religion believed by fools and by people in state of barbarism. Jesus was the one who talked nonsense like savage. not a seer not even an enlightened man. For Dayananda, islam is a false religion that does nothing but harm and should be discarded. Muhammad (PBUH) was not a pious man but was immoral and lascivious. The militant Aryas followed the path of Dayananda and rejected any suggestion to soften Dayananda's criticism of other faiths or to change, in any way, the word of their rsi.
I do not think that the wordings of the article correctly represents the reference provided. I tried removing or rewording the statement, all of which were reverted. [32] [33] [34].
The discussion at the talk page is not helping. One of the user involved ( User:Jethwarp) hasn't even participated. I tried asking for third opinion, but its been six days and no one commented. Can anyone provide their comments in this (preferably at the talk page Talk:Criticism_of_Jainism)? Rahul ( talk) 06:39, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Jethwarp, for suggesting my name. Unfortunately, I'm flat out of time right now. I did compile a list of reliable references on Jainism (especially its antiquity) in this subpage: User:Fowler&fowler/Sources for Jainism. The sources there might be helpful for others (both for the quotes and for who is considered reliable in the scholarly literature). As you've already noted, The Rahul Jain, and I would add, Indian Chronicles, have been pursuing a campaign of selective citing (where, for example, a subordinate clause might be cited, but the main left out) to suit their agenda. Glasenapp, as it is, if I remember right, wrote almost a hundred years ago. Driving all this is a bizarre fixation on the antiquity of Jainism, which stands out even among other antiquity-crazed-India-related fixations. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 16:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
I think there is a rough consensus to remove the views of Dayananda for now. If his views are to be added, I would request the editor to provide a reliable source which contains a good analysis of the criticism. Writing something like "Philosopher Dayananda says Jainism is dreadfull" is just too farfetched. -- Rahul ( talk) 18:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
That and a host of other fantasy articles that The Rahul Jain and Indianchronicles have inflicted upon Wikipedia also have to go. This is a general problem with Wikipedia India pages. People start an article, make one-line sections, add see also, and they think they have article, which, naturally, allows them to create another article. The Rahul Jain, for example, had articles: Jainism in Laos, Jainism in Cambodia, Jainism along the Mekong River, Jainism in the Upper Mekong West Bank, and so forth, not literally, but at the same level of vacuity. Also, as was evident with the snow job Bladesmulti was attempting to do in Criticism of Jainism, there is a tendency among the authors of India-related articles to quote rather than paraphrase. This allows them to avoid the requisite critical engagement with the content needed for making the kind of considered, integrated summaries essential in an encyclopedia. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Help needed. See [36] and User talk:Smaj23#December 2013. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:39, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
User:Smaj23 suddenly received support from a new editor User:Hindu lead in our dispute on Yogi, who consequently has made the same sort of edit, based on WP:OR. Help is welcome again. I guess I've reverted enough already. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 16:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Gita is the old Hindu text which according to Hindu belief contains all the answers of the world, starting from the beginning to the end of the universe and the verses of Gita contains definition of Yogi or sage of steady mind also. Now Gita was written about 5000 years ago and it is in Sanskrit, so it is difficult to cite any content as we cite journal in scientific paper communication. But the verses of Gita and their interpretations are available in the web one of which is cited for your satisfaction.
Also I would like to seek help for finding any book which interpreted the verses of Gita which can satisfy our friends from the Western culture. Since we are very much habituated with those texts from the childhood, (as the Christians are habituated with the Bible, we never questioned and asked Gita as the our western christian friends never questioned Bible) we never needed any book for interpretation.But please find something from any Indian interpretation since it is Indian culture and look at that as the Indians look at not the others. (This is for the correct interpretation of the meaning).
All the best..
Hindu_lead — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hindu lead ( talk • contribs) 16:24, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
If you read my version of the correction, you could see I've quoted the original version of the Gita in Sanskrit and the English translation of the verse. The translation itself gives the meaning, but admin has changed all the content and moved back to previous one which was totally a partial or rather narrow sentiment of some people. And now the article protected. I don't understand why is it? How could be a partial person become the admin??
Hindu_lead — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hindu lead ( talk • contribs) 05:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Some over enthusiastic editors have been changing few articles to reflect yesterday's election results such as adding Vasundra Raje as Rajasthan CM. But the new probable CM's doesn't come to power until sworn in and the old ones continue to be acting CM. I want to know what is the precedent on WP in this kind of situations? Do we leave these changes and reflect factually wrong info for few days or changes reverted? --Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 00:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
When doing work on the article for Śūraṃgamasamādhisūtra, The Concentration of Heroic Progress: An Early Mahayana Buddhist Scripture I noticed there was another book reviewed with that title (the article review I was looking at ended and this one began).
Is anyone interested in doing a search at the University of Houston libraries for book reviews of this book, then going to Wikipedia:RX and obtaining the said book reviews, and then writing an article on this book based on the book reviews? WhisperToMe ( talk) 01:42, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Criticism of Jainism is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticism of Jainism until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- Rahul ( talk) 06:30, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
A GLAM event is planned at the National Museum in New Delhi between 2nd and 5th January 2014. Activities related to this include obtaining media and enhancing or creating articles related to the collections held there. All are welcome to join for article collaborations, requesting media, suggesting articles that might be worth looking at during this session. Some idea of the collections held at the museum can be got by looking under the Collections menu on the museum website http://www.nationalmuseumindia.gov.in (seems to be down at the moment) Do add article/media suggestions and register if you are interested at Wikipedia:GLAM/NM Shyamal ( talk) 02:07, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Participation on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan would be welcome. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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I had the article Sunni Students Federation come up for speedy deletion. It was promotional enough in tone to where I deleted it, but they did assert some notability as far as their numbers go. It looks like there's a huge language barrier here, so I thought I'd drop a note and ask if anyone here would be interested in userfying it and working on it while looking for sources. If anyone is interested, message me on my userspace. I figure I'd ask here again, as I've had some wonderful people come in and help with various other articles that have been up for deletion (or been outright deleted) in various instances. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I have deleted 3 paragraphs which were copy/pasted from a website(which appears to be an unreliable source). This article is in desperate need of reliable sources. Legends and websites are poor sources for writing about this man. I am sure there are some individuals that own some Indian history books written by historians that can be used for this article. Thanks. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 20:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I converted SpaceHub Southeast ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) from Indian English to American English, because this is an American company based out of Atlanta, Georgia. If you think that MOS:RETAIN is more important than MOS:TIES, feel free to revert me. -- 70.24.249.39 ( talk) 09:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I recently happened upon a picture File:Tarapith.JPG, which had been included until recently in three Wikipedia articles: Cremation, Tarapith and Dwarka River. It is still included in three Wikipedia articles, but now they are: Litter, Tarapith and Dwarka River.
I'm posting here because it's hard (at least for me) to ascertain that the picture really illustrates Tarapith and Dwarka River. What is shown is too generic. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 19:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Jitendra Ravia appears to be an autobiography. Is this person notable enough to qualify for an article? If so, the article needs some serious cleanup. If not, it needs to be PRODded or taken to AFD. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 23:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hyderabad is going to be on the main page on September 19. Given the current political turmoil, it is likely to get some attention. Please keep it watch-listed.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 03:41, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Category:Colonial schools in India, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 12:40, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Category:21st-century Indian film actresses, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 12:59, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
The original Young Malang film article was speedy deleted... perhaps without due consideration that otherwise tag-able concerns, including a sense of WP:PEACOCK, were addressable under WP:IMPROVE, WP:ATD and WP:WIP. It was most likely written by a newcomer who lacked understanding of how PEACOCK terms give an unsourced article a very bad reputation. It was then recreated in a much shorter version as YOUNG MALANG by another apparent newcomer and sent immediately to AFD. As the film's production has received significant coverage and the film is due to release on the 20th, I undeleted the original version and moved in into my userspace. I seek assistance in bringing the original into line for a return to mainspace. Who's up for helping improve it? ' Schmidt, Michael Q. 02:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Category:21st-century Indian television actresses, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 12:56, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:Prithviraj Kapoor#Pathan/Pashtun ethnicity of Prithviraj Kapoor. --
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The newly-created article Anjana Om Kashyap needs serious work.
If this person is as well-written about as a Google.com search indicates, there is the possibility of getting this up to WP:Good article status or at least B-class fairly quickly if people familiar with her and who are familiar with what is and is not a reliable source for people in her profession in her country work on it.
My challenge to WikiProject India, should you choose to accept it: Get this up to B-class within a week and if it looks like GA status is feasible, get it to GA within a month. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 14:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello all, this was something I came across and thought would be relevant to you. There has been much sparring and discussion between two editors about several articles related to disputed places between India and China. It began with a CfD nomination regarding Category:Areas occupied by China after the Sino-Indian War. The conclusion was that the category was well-defined and should be retained but could be renamed to a better title. Since then there have been many attempts by one of the editors to remove text and references from the articles and to remove the articles from the category, while the other prefers to retain them. Some of the articles of places that are involved are Lanak Pass, Spanggur Gap, Spanggur Tso, Khurnak Fort, Sirijap, Dehra Compass, Kongka Pass, Galwan River, Chip Chap River, Depsang plains, Demchok and Dêmqog, Ngari Prefecture. Other related articles that have not been edited as much are Events leading to the Sino-Indian War, Sino-Indian War, Aksai Chin, Line of Actual Control, China-India relations and Sino-Indian border dispute. I am not sure, but it appears that the pro-China editor gradually makes articles pro-China over time, while it appears that the other editor has an uncompromising and almost stubborn attitude. Discussion has also been done at Administrators noticeboard, User talk:Jreferee and on all the related talk pages. Perhaps you should keep an eye on these pages. 117.195.122.22 ( talk) 16:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikiproject Rivers Talkpage about renaming articles on some Indian Rivers. Posting this notice here simply for informational purposes (since not many WPINDIA may have that page watchlisted); if interested please add your comments at the WPRIVERS page. Abecedare ( talk) 01:08, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi all! I have a new request, as I'm running into a huge language barrier. I'm trying to write an article for the author Ashok Rajagopalan. I see a blog entry that says that he's worked on over 500 books, which is quite an accomplishment to say the least. (Freaking impressive is more appropriate of an expression, in my opinion.) Problem is, it's a blog and I can't use it. The Hindu has written about him and I have an article from the Deccan Herald, but I need a few more sources from other places to really give solid notability. I know that they have to be out there, but I think that they're in another language since most of his books aren't in English. I think I have enough to merit an entry on the mainspace, but I kind of hit my limit with sourcing in English. Can anyone help hunt for sources as well as for titles of his books? We can't have all 500 books he's worked on, but we can do the most notable ones. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Dear India experts: Can someone check out the references for this article> It has been waiting a long timefor review at Afc. Thanks! — Anne Delong ( talk) 19:44, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
I am pleased to let everyone know that images from the Indian Navy's website can be uploaded and used on Wikipedia, as they have been released under the the CC 2.5 Attribution license, which was kindly confirmed to me by the navy's webmaster. You can check out the template and the OTRS ticket at Template:Indian navy. Thanks! Anir1uph | talk | contrib 10:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Does Pooja Welling show that this person meets WP:GNG, WP:BIO, or WP:ENT? Not being familiar with the films and TV shows in question, I can't really tell. For admins is this a re-creation of the deleted version of this page? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 17:20, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Is Swati Bakshi notable and in need of major de-promotionalizing or is she non-notable? If non-notable, I'll go through PROD/AFD. Otherwise, a major cleanup is in order. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 19:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
It seems like a major collaboration with a University in Goa is beginning! See Times of India. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Could someone with decent resources check out Jahan Shah IV? I did a regular Google search, Google Books, and Google Scholar, but found nothing on the guy. The only cited reference is a book whose title and author also get no results. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 02:02, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey, I recently moved an article into someone's userspace so they coudl work on it. The problem is that I'm not sure how much help I'd be for them since they don't seem to have a firm grasp on English. Their username and subject matter suggests that they're Indian, so I was wondering if one of you could help him out any. His username is User:Vishwanathnjois. Thanks! I think that you guys have to have one of the more solid bases of any of the other WP I've dealt with, so I want to know how much I appreciate everyone's hard work on whatever subject I've posted about here. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:37, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't how long this has been going on, but a clique of WP editors have been pushing "antiquity" on Jainism-related articles. Their sources are shabby, most written by Jains, most works of avocation, than the scholarly efforts of professionals. They are edit-warring on Indus Valley Civilization, attempting to give "historical figure" status to gods or mythical religious figures. They are claiming that the "proto-Shiva" seal of the Indus Valley was the first tirthankara "Rishaba," who in traditional Jain sources was said to be 100 feet tall and had already departed the earth before the birth of the solar system.
They are creating new articles sourced to "matrimonial" sources: Jainism in Southeast Asia.
They are quietly, tiptoeing their third-rate articles into GA status, such as Karma in Jainism, which is making the claim, based on dubious Jain sources that the concepts of "Karma," "Maya," "Samsara," "rebirth," are all Jain concepts, pre-dating Hinduism and Buddhism. The same is being repeated on the page Timeline of Jainism, Neminatha, Rishabha, Buddhism and Jainism, Sramana, and so forth
Sources can be found these days for the craziest assertions. Wikipedia has to make sure that the sources are reliable and the emphasis is not WP:UNDUE. I haven't had the time to look into this, but there seems to be a veritable parallel universe of Jainism-related articles. Could someone please look into this? Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:41, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Hmm... Abhi ( talk) 12:14, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Seems like a fun topic - would make for a nice DYK. If anyone would like to expand it, it would be appreciated! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
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Many people don't distinguish Indians from origin-Indians (Indian-American , -Canadian). See List of Indian Academy Award winners and nominees or List of Indian Christians for such lists. Now I don't understand why they get away with it and there is no mechanism to stop such kind of disruption. I reported someone and the case was simply dropped.-- Dravidian Hero 19:58, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Here are some principal rules which should settle most issues in Lists and other topics:
-- Dravidian Hero 22:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC) I guess the question is what does "Indian" mean? Does it mean national origin? Does one have to be a citizen of India? Does one have to be born in India? Or have at least one parent who is Indian? Would, for example, someone like Jagdish Bhagwati be included in a list of Indian professors at Columbia University? Personally, I'd favor a more inclusive approach along the definitional lines here simply because it would cause less problems but this does need to be hashed out. -- regentspark ( comment) 01:06, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Avoid what. I've repeatedly stated that Indian means citizen of India and there is no other definition for that. If you are refering to this list here from disambuigation page:
These definitions in the disambuigation page are utter crap: 1. So a German immigrant worker in Bangalore is Indian? Basically The same thing that happens in our lists. General pattern is: Keep the definition of Indian as vague as possible so everyone and everything passes as Indian, because India is a great country and India is the great hope of the world and humanity. Indians is different and better than all other countries. I challenge this bullshit.-- Dravidian Hero 15:45, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi. I want to draw your attention to the Partition of India page, which is poorly written, unreferenced and insubstantial. Pakistani editors are seemingly trying to dominate the page with their nationalistic POV and trying to protect the page. It would be great if there was a major collaborative effort to overhaul and improve the page to make it a featured article. Some suggested readings (books) are: Freedom at Midnight (Lapierre & Collins), India Wins Freedom (Abul Kalam Azad) and India from Curzon to Nehru and After (Durga Das). -- Bookishness ( talk) 22:18, 1 October 2013 (UTC)— Bookishness ( talk • contribs) is a confirmed sockpuppet of Crème3.14159 ( talk • contribs). -- SMS Talk 13:32, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
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It seems there is no consistency in naming the articles about assembly elections in India. I found three different formats, e.g. Tamil Nadu legislative assembly election, 2011, Tripura Legislative Assembly election, 2013 and Delhi state assembly elections, 2013. I don't know which one is better than the other, but, I think, editors of WikiProject India should decide this. — Bill william compton Talk 12:18, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
There is a dispute on the talk about WP:POV pushing in lead, WP:UNDUE and incomplete coverage of 2002 Gujarat violence. Please comment in this discussion so a consensus can be reached. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:02, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated List of recognised political parties in India for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. — Bill william compton Talk 07:49, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Asaram's son Narayan Sai has formed a political outfit called Ojaswi Party. As I did not find it notable, I have nominated the article for deletion. Interested people may comment on the AfD discussion. Thanks.--Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 03:24, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion in the Sathya Sai Baba article about the lead, additional input and comments will be much appreciated. - Ugog Nizdast ( talk) 18:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Is assessing articles for quality and importance, by the main contributor of the article allowed? If no, is there any policy about it?--Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 04:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Would someone be kind enough to take a look at Kollemcode, where an IP continues to add unreferenced (though not necessarily inaccurate) information to the article, and to display very little understanding of the need for WP:RS. This edit summary: "This is all genuine information. If you are looking for references from website then why do we need wiki?" sums up the nature of the problem. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 09:57, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
I have been looking at images in the Gandhi, Nehru, and Bose pages and realizing that many don't have valid license tags or correct sources, or both. For example,
So, I would like to urge editors uploading India-related pictures to not simply provide a source on the web (a blog or a newspaper etc.), but find the actual copyright information (photographer). Indian newspapers, typically do not publish copyright information or credit the photographer, especially for old pictures. So a picture found on the Hindu or Times of India does not mean it was taken by someone on the newspaper staff, or even taken by an Indian. In fact, typically, as I am finding, most old pictures of Gandhi and Nehru, have been taken by American photographers working for Life/Time, ACME, AP, etc. Finding the actual copyright information requires some sleuthing, e.g. it is a good idea to check Corbis, Life/Time archives, and eBay (which often has copyright info for pictures being sold). Otherwise, your picture will eventually deleted and you'll unnecessarily burden others who have to do the cleaning up.
Another bigger issue is that there is a tag on Commons, PD-India-photo-1958, which seems to be claiming that anything created (not necessarily published) in India before 1958 is in the public domain worldwide. This, as far as I can tell, is incorrect. The copyright laws in India for images are governed by three Acts and an international agreement:
So in summary, for an image taken and published in India by an Indian photographer, the key dates are:
If a picture does not meet either of these conditions, it cannot be uploaded on Commons, unless of course it is available under another Commons license (such as on Flickr) etc.
However, all pictures published between 29 December 1941 and 1 January 1953, can still be uploaded on Wikipedia (with tag PD-India; they just cannot go on Commons. (As I stressed earlier: If the picture is not taken by an Indian photographer, especially if it is first published, say, in the US (as in Life, UPI, AP pictures), none of this applies; you have to proceed by US Copyright law.)
Request: Can someone make a Commons template that says this clearly and get rid of PD-India-photo-1958, which is wrong? Also, could someone examine the wording of ICA 1957 and CAB 1992, the copyrights usually end at the beginning of a year. So, the dates I've stated above might need to be rounded off or corrected a little. Thanks Fowler&fowler «Talk» 11:29, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Pease add your comments below:
Namaste, most of you must be aware of INS Arihant. The problem is that we don't have any real-time images of the submarine. The only image we have is this one which was released by the UPA Government some time ago. Nobody in the internet hold the copyright over this image. Almost all news agencies of the world freely use this image with a little credit to the govt. But I'm not sure on what basis to upload it, Public Domain or Fair-Use. Surely the govt released it offline for the people to see it....... Help on whether to upload it for fair-use or free use would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, ƬheStrike Σagle sorties 15:06, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Is this notable? Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Paramarsh Regards, FoCuSandLeArN ( talk) 11:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Usually sidebars are made when topic is big and has many articles. I don't think too many articles will ever be created related to an individual actor. But User:NextSaagar is inserting sidebars in articles of many actors. Is it OK? Abhi ( talk) 11:52, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
What exactly are the standards for a topic/person to have a sidebar? NextSaagar ( talk) 13:41, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Is User:LogX also in business of creating and adding EXACTLY same sidebar? [3] [4] Abhi ( talk) 12:09, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
@LogX Brad Pitt article was promoted in June 2010 and that sidebar was created in Sept 2013. I just removed it from Brad Pitt article. After studying your edit history, I don't think you got anything to do with NextSaagar. It is your bad luck that he copied your sidebar behaviour. Pls remove those sidebars, propose templates for deletion yourself and end this matter. Sorry and thanks.
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I have encountered some problem articles.
Problem: All these articles contain large chunks of copyright text and also same text pasted in multiple articles. I have already removed some of the overlapping text and some of the copyrighted material where source was easily available. But I am afraid, that way, nothing much will be left in each of these. As the topics seems important, I request people knowledgeable about the topic to check these article and remove violations. Note: I have nominated Koch Rajbongshi Royal Family at AfD as it contains hardly anything related to the royal family. If someone is willing to re-write it, I will withdraw nomination.--Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:37, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Jayadeva, Jayadeva in Sikhism and Jayadeva birth controversy all provide a POV position on his birthplace. Now it is likely correct [8] but it is disputed. I'm not convinced that in a dispute between whether he was born in Orissa and Bengal we should use official Orissa government sources. Dougweller ( talk) 10:42, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Regarding this requested move is there any previous discussion/consensus on this noticeboard, when to use full name and when only surname? Solomon 7968 10:15, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey guys, I'm here to ask for help with another article, Cuckold (book). It's by Kiran Nagarkar and looks to be well known in India from what I can find. I'm running into some problems with sources, but another problem is that I'm a little swamped with schoolwork and I think I'm getting the flu. I'd hate to only give half the energy I normally can to this and I'm afraid of misreading something because I'm distracted for several reasons. Can anyone help out with this that is familiar with the work? Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Can someone familiar with Rajasthan check the recent (October 2013) changes to Vijaynagar tehsil for factual accuracy? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 16:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Achrach is a new stub article (created by another editor) that I'm having difficulty locating sources for. Any help to locate and add reliable sources to the article (and also to expand it) is appreciated. Cheers, Northamerica1000 (talk) 06:21, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join treasure hunt. Thank you. Abhi ( talk) 15:48, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
I request some user to check grammar in the above article. One user has edit-warred to remove half of the contents from '19th century' section in this version of the article claiming too many grammatical errors. Thanks. Abhi ( talk) 17:06, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi folks, I would like to propose that editors familiar with subject matter that might include K. V. Mahadevan please take a look at the article, and perhaps make contact with user Sugram to explain some of the expectations that Wikipedia has regarding original research, sourcing, personal interpretation, etc. I previously had to warn him for a significant copyvio, and I'm starting to wonder from where he is getting the massive data tables he is submitting to various articles. We're not at RfC/U status yet, I just think that maybe some friendly, helpful voices familiar to him might help inspire some change. I am not familiar with Indian cinema, etc, so my effectiveness is limited to reciting policy and reverting unsourced edits, where I think that WikiProject India interest might help produce better articles. Thanks all! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 07:51, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
I today noticed that Swami Agnivesh article is titled as Agnivesh. Although Smawi is honorific, but it is almost part of his name and I have never seen him anywhere being referred as only Agnivesh. Shouldn't the article be moved?--Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 06:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
The public domain Indian Biographical Dictionary (1915) by C. Hayavadana Rao ( wikisource transcription project) is now fully available on wikisource thanks to Billinghurst, GreyHead et al. It is good resource for articles on biographies of Pre-1947 individuals. Solomon 7968 09:04, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I still need to transcribe all the pages through to the main namespace, and build an index page, and will get started on it on the weekend. It won't be quick. We will also need to build a citation template, probably {{cite IndianBio}} template similar to something like {tlx|cite IrishBio}}. At Wikisource, please do add a wikipedia = ...
line in the header template for respective articles. Of course, the work still needs validation, so please don't be shy to go and give the transcriptions a second proofread, amend as necessary and then validate the page; see
s:Help:Proofreading. —
billinghurst
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Hullo India experts. A questioner at the Reference Desk is asking for info on Ravan's grandson. The question. Can anyone here go over and help them? Taknaran ( talk) 13:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
There's been an edit war going on in the article for a few days. Someone with knowledge of the subject is invited to visit the article and the talk page! — Spaceman Spiff 08:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, There is a deletion request made for Category:Days of the year in India. I think the pages in this category will help to collect events happened in India. Please give your comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/17 October in India. -- Neechalkaran ( talk) 05:57, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Another editor created Category:Jamia Arabia islamia Nagpur, which appears to be copied in part from Jamia Islamia Bhatkal. If the article is a hoax, it should be deleted and the creator warned or blocked. If it is not a hoax, then it will need to be moved to article space and cleaned up. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 03:24, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Notable or not? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 22:59, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
I've been trying to figure out what to do with Kamtapur which started as an article about a demand for a new state [9] and then had history added to it which is just plain confusing and seems to belong elsewhere. Now we have some new articles created by Surjit23 ( talk · contribs), Kamatapur movement and Kamatapur State, all of which seem to be about the same subject that is where Kamtapur started (these seem to be simply variant spellings). I've discussed some of this with User:RegentsPark at User talk:RegentsPark#Can you make sense of these? and I'll ping User:Abecedare, User:Sitush and User:SpacemanSpiff who I think know about some of this. It's my guess that we now have 3 not terribly good articles where we only need one decent one. Note I reverted this edit [10] by the new editor which I think further validates my view. I'll emphasise that this is (I assume, you never know) a new editor who has also created a probably non-notable article, Golapariya Folk Song Dougweller ( talk) 10:43, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone have access to The Great Moghuls (1971) by Bamber Gascoigne? I've got a copyright concern. - Sitush ( talk) 16:23, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
A group of POV editors (or simply a very prolific dynamic IP) have decided that the article must be updated with every detail that can be scraped up from any news item.
additional eyes would be appreciated to ensure this does not become a WP:COATRACK. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm struggling to determine whether Kumaoni is an ethnicity or something else. Can anyone enlighten me? Kumaoni people is a bit vague, seemingly mixing up linguistic features, place of birth, where someone lives etc. - Sitush ( talk) 07:38, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
The above article is heavy on propaganda. Can someone with the knowledge, time and patience tone it down? Thanks — Ramit (talk) 10:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
For anyone interested in commenting: link to SPI. Abecedare ( talk) 15:24, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Please kindly see the article /info/en/?search=Shiva Also see the talk page. . is it some editors dominating?!. Neutral editors could you look at the page?!Thank you all Eshwar.om Talk tome 18:37, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments Mr Joshua. i hope It makes me better in further.experience is a great teacher.some times lessons gives a chance to us to face the difficult situation. Thank you. Eshwar.om Talk tome 08:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Quite a few of our dynastic articles, such as Kakatiya_dynasty, seem to use paired templates such as {{ APhistory}} and {{ HistoryOfSouthAsia}}. These are pretty big boxes and quite often swamp the article. In the Kakatiya instance, they help to force the images so far below the article that I'm doubtful whether anyone usually sees them.
Somewhere, some time in the past, I queried whether we needed to pair these things and, if we did, whether they could be collapsible. Alas, I can't find that thread. I'm not particularly familiar with template stuff and thought I'd restart the conversation here, although I realise that it will probably have to be moved to the talk pages of the various templates eventually. If some sort of consensus can be formed here then I can reference it at the other pages. - Sitush ( talk) 11:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
User:The Rahul Jain has created article Jain-Hindu relations after his article for creation was declined repeatedly Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jainism and Hinduism [19]. It may be noted he has just changed the title after a similar earlier attempt failed earlier- please see the link [20] when twice such and article name Jain and Hindu religion was deleted. Is it not again the recreation of deleted article again by him by another name. Is this article not a criteria for Speedy deletion??? Jethwarp ( talk) 14:42, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Happy Diwali to all the editors, stalkers, watchers, and lurkers who hang out here! Some tech-savvy person should make a "Happy Diwali" template we can all use.-- regentspark ( comment) 20:17, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I've got a problem at Ghuman and am fed up of it. Anyone care to advise? I've already been to WP:RFPP once today and really don't want to go there again. I may be wrong, after all. - Sitush ( talk) 01:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear Editor,
Hi.I am new to editing Wikipedia and have a few days ago edited misinformation on facts about my husband Prithiveeraj's page.there was misrepresentation of data starting with the spelling of his name,his birth place,his career graph & photos.I have edited and put in the correct information and i believe there cannot be a more reliable source other than the person's spouse.I am unable to edit the spelling in the url.Please help me in this.the confusion in wrong facts could also have arisen because there is another actor by the same name although with a different spelling.I would request you to let everybody be able to now access correct information about my husband Prithiveeraj alias Babloo
Thank you
Beena Prithiveeraj Beenaprithiveeraj ( talk) 12:27, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
What does the phrase "Indian renaissance" actually mean? It is used here. - Sitush ( talk) 14:08, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Another editor has created the article South Delhi Municipal Corporation. Should this be merged into South Delhi? Should new articles be created for North Delhi Municipal Corporation and East Delhi Municipal Corporation? Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
The Savarkar article has undergone some edits which at first look, seems contentious and probably needs to be reviewed by someone who has dealt with this article before. Would anyone take a look? Thanks, Ugog Nizdast ( talk) 05:46, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Invitation to offer additional opinions at This Discussion Page re: Merger Proposal of Macchanu To Makardhwaja; Reason: "These seem to be covering the same person in separate versions (Indian ver. and southeast Asian ver.) of the same epic, but some believe them to be different person."
Additional comments welcome. Thank you. Please re-post as necessary. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 05:27, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
There is a lot of back-and-forth going on regarding the claimed Brahmin status of the Bhumihar community. One or more anons keep removing the claim from related articles and, to be fair to them, the only source being used appears to be Sahajanand Saraswati, who was himself apparently a Bhumihar. More sources are available in the Bhumihar article itself but many of those, too, look to be either not independent of the community or dependent on the view of Sarasawati. Alas, I can't see many of them in any detail.
Is the claim a major issue or just a bit of caste battling? Can we really rely on Saraswati, given his non-independent position. I suspect that he is not reliable but there is no point in trying to engage the IPs on the article talk pages because they never seem to leave edit summaries and come and go very quickly. - Sitush ( talk) 14:57, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Can this recently deleted article (contents at User:The_Rahul_Jain/Jain-Hindu_relations) moved back to main article space? Rahul Jain ( talk) 20:50, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone besides me think there are some problems with this article? Also found Anuj Dhar, who created the organisation - his article tells us that " Dhar and Mission Netaji have been fighting to bring out the truth," about Subhas Chandra Bose. Dougweller ( talk) 15:21, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
There is a whole eco-system of related articles:
that seem to be coatracks for discussing alternate theories of Bose's death. These theories are definitely not the accepted majority view amongst scholars, but I don't know yet where they lie along the minority view, fringe, whacko-conspiracy-theory spectrum. While the topic may be notable enough and worth covering, any suggestion on if/how these articles need to cleaned up or selectively merged? Abecedare ( talk) 17:24, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
They should be AfD'd ASAP. It use to be said about large mid-western state schools, "Pick any face in Hollywood, stand in the college quads for 15 minutes and you'll see some one with that face walk past you." Similarly, in a large country of 1 billion people, what are the chances that you'll run into someone who looks like Subhas Bose. Quite high. We can't have that many loony-bin Bose-related pages on Wikipedia. The server will break down. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 03:09, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
I didn't blank a page, I followed WP:VERIFY policy, "Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed. Whether and how quickly this should happen depends on the material and the overall state of the article. ... Do not leave unsourced or poorly sourced material in an article if it might damage the reputation of living people or existing groups, and do not move it to the talk page." I am perfectly within my right. When an article is so irredeemably third-rate and unsourced, you don't go around adding cn tages to every clause within every sentence, you remove the nonsense. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Please don't make me throw up. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 20:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)Apart from the Free India Centre, Bose also had another rea-son to feel satisfied—even comfortable—in Berlin. After months of residing in a hotel, the Foreign Office procured a luxurious residence for him along with a butler, cook, gardener and an SS-chauffeured car. Emilie Schenkl moved in openly with him. The Germans, aware of the nature of their relationship, refrained from any involvement. The following year she gave birth to a daughter. The residence quickly became a gathering point for the Indian, Arab and Afghan communities in Berlin. Among them they included the ousted Prime Minister of Iraq, Rashid Ali al-Gaylani, the exiled Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Moham-mad Amin al-Husayni, and the former Afghan Foreign Minister, Ghulam Siddiq Khan. The comfort, combined with the presence of Emilie as well as contact with important anti-British leaders, exiles and the Indian staff, ensured that Bose now began feeling more at 'home' in Berlin." (Hayes, Romain (2011), Subhas Chandra Bose in Nazi Germany: Politics, Intelligence and Propaganda 1941-1943, Oxford University Press, p. 67, ISBN 978-0-19-932739-3, retrieved 7 November 2013
Folks, this is all very interesting. But, we deal with sources and weight here, not with personal opinions about who was or was not whatever he or she was or was not. Do try to stick to what works best for Wikipedia. -- regentspark ( comment) 20:54, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Strongly considering something which would see us redirect most of our articles on Indian and Pakistani villages to lists by district until somebody can create a half decent article on them and strictly control growth on Indian/Pakistan villages. They're hugely problematic and magnets for all sort of crap. There's way too many to cleanup and given that most of them are unsourced I don't think it would be a problem to delete or redirect most of them. Would you support a mass effort to eliminate the problem? They're one of the poorest areas of wikipedia IMO. It's embarrassing for the good editors of WP:India and WP:Pakistan who are trying to write articles to a high standard. Obviously each article would be checked before redirecting and the very few half decent articles which exist would remain.
In India and Pakistan's case we're presented with a rare problem. High Internet access and the fact that a lot of people added to these villages are from rural areas with a poor command of English and what wikipedia is about. They gradually degrade the articles with ugly lists and POV over time because we lack the editors to control, monitor and nurture them. The scale of the problem means that you can't even begin to start cleaning them up and hoping to make good progress. I can't put them all on my watchlist, I already have over a 1000 articles and a lot of the changes even in those I'm not really monitoring. We have several thousand articles like this, here's a random
Naya Lahore :not referenced at all, poorly formatted, poorly written, not much information other than trivia.
Do we want thousands of "articles" like this, or would they be best nuked/incubated or redirect until somebody can write a clean sourced article and put it on their watchlist? I'm not disputing the notability of any of them, but we have a duty to provide an encyclopedia and thousands of articles like this are unacceptable and we need to eradicate the problem and start controlling an area vulnerable to extremely poor editing. Certainly stubs like Puralal are magnets for shoddy editing, but I'd rather they were useless stubs like that than hijacked articles with tons of POV about local "famous" taxi drivers and doctors.We're better off redirecting most of them to districts and keep only articles on major Indian/Pakistani cities and towns until somebody can write a half decent article. The cleanup should begin with blasting the thousands of stubs and bog standard articles on Indian villages and start with cleaning up the major cities of India and Pakistan and them put on watchlists. Then articles can gradually be restored once somebody can be bothered to write one properly and monitor it and put on watchlists. I feel that the mess created is a let down to the fluent, capable editors who edit Indian articles on here and are struggling to improve quality here. The scale of the task needs reducing and to gradually build it up with a higher proportion of quality.
If there are no objections to me redirecting unsourced and super poor quality articles to the districts i'll begin next week with ploughing through Andhra Pradesh.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:07, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
A sourced table with coordinates with a summary option would definitely be the way to go Solomon, Aymatth and Sitush I think. As Aymatth says that would discourage long lists of schools and glorified locals and businesses and would take away the redundancy of a lot of the empty pointless stubs as Sitush says and they could also go on watchlists instead of having to watch thousands of separate stubs. I agree that most of the info is dubious and it should probably be deleted or sourced if it can be and is fairly decent. How can we organize something though given the scale of it. It would surely take a while to even tackle one district of India and Districts of India look how many of them are. The articles on the smaller towns which may be half decent half nonsense perhaps they'd be better incubated until they can be restored with fully checked and sourcing content. What I'd like to see is a full and controlled/organized cleanup job, redirecting all of the problematic village/town articles to lists by districts and then beginning a cleanup of the major cities and towns first and then gradually working through to the smaller towns. Something which is manageable as a group. Browse through as many village articles in as many states and districts as you can and you'll see the extent of the problem and why drastic action is needed. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:05, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
We both agree that places are notable, but until somebody can write a decent sourced article to show why they're notable the articles are still hugely problematic. I'd rather not have the article than one full of disinformation and people promoting themselves and their community in often incoherent English.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:48, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I did once concentrate on stub building true Edison, but the reality is that it's a waste of time as few of them get expanded and in India/Pakistan's case make them a magnet for crap. I agree with Sitush's perspective on the situation. I see having thousands of empty unsourced stubs as problematic in India's case especially it that they're not only useless encyclopedia entries but also massive magnets for shite. It would be nice to have 638,000 FA quality articles on Indian villages, and to have a decent article on every settlement in the world but it just isn't practical to do so without the numbers needed to monitor and nurture them. The " Unreferenced local knowledge (lists of cultural institutions, schools, bus lines) could be removed if unreferenced. " approach doesn't work because at some point they get readded. Trust me, I cleaned up quite a lot of the Karnataka towns and villages a while back and put them all on my watchlist and even now I'm finding I have too many articles to monitor and wipe clean again and they're becoming infested again. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to try to make a model list for one district at List of populated places in Adilabad district. May take a week or two to complete but I want to demonstrate how much better it is to reduce the redundancies and shoddy articles in favour of something like this. Somebody feel free to continue to add the coordinates for Madaram onwards♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
@ Dr. Blofeld The real problem is to identify the references needed to build an article in first place. A simple Google Books search lists two books for Adilabad district:
Note that neither the town (with 3 ref) and the district (with 15 ref) uses the two books as references. My feeling is that there are book length references for every district in India (which may not be the case for other Asian countries). A potential Bibliography by districts in India may be a great resource for the project. Solomon 7968 17:18, 4 November 2013 (UTC) Solomon 7968 17:05, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
That's one of the biggest problems with wikipedia right now Abhi, "other people will improve it, don't worry things will improve". Well I've been here 7 and a half years Abhi and the average quality for India and Pakistan has not improved, in fact the extent of the unsourced poorly formatted info has grown and will continue to do so as Internet access to more rural areas increases. For every decent editor here taking articles to GA there's dozens being expanded with garbage. Meanwhile thousands of articles contains material which is an embarrassment to the project and may well contain gross POV, unfounded claims and other garbage. It is up to WP:India to try to improve the situation. We have a duty as an encyclopedia to provide accurate, coherent and well sourced information, and if thousands of the articles are incoherent and poorly written/structured then we're failing to write an encyclopedia. You've actually answered my reasoning for why a lot of the villages should be redirected to lists "Info about almost every village is available on the net and everybody has access to the net. This is not the case with India. " If the villages don't have any reliable sources to write them, why should they have an article? They should be redirected to lists until they do actually have decent sources and info available, wouldn't that make more sense Abhi? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:55, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Better to have often false, misleading unencyclopedic gibberish, gross POV and occasionally libelous info about locals in an article than for the article to be redirected to a sourced list with encyclopedic details and monitored on watchlists? What nonsense.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:24, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello again, India experts! The above article makes many references to a source, "Hari Har Saran Lal" that is not clear. Is this a book? Can someone find the identifying information for this source? — Anne Delong ( talk) 06:50, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear India experts: These two articles show the same spot on the map, but the descriptions don't match. Which is correct? Or are there two towns with the same name? — Anne Delong ( talk) 01:17, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
If I apply google search like Dharmadhyaksha or reverse image search, I can tag thousands of BH images for copyvio. As I said on talkpage of Dharmadhyaksha, I guess freelance photographers cover bollywood events and sell same images to different websites. So same image has multiple copyright owners. It is better to contact BH and sort out this issue, otherwise users like Dharmadhyaksha will keep googling and will keep tagging almost EVERY BH image for deletion and hundreds of articles will be without images. Abhi ( talk) 14:19, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
We have many inactive portals under our project. Portal:Chennai is one example. While it's good to have portals for developed topics, we don't seem to have sufficient enthusiasm to even develop our existing articles. I'm suggesting that we look into deleting (by MfD process) some of these portals so that we can at least start focusing on the articles and also the more important portals such as Portal:India etc. Comments? — Spaceman Spiff 08:44, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
{{
Historical}}
or better yet {{
Hysterical}}
and be done with it. At the least I hope we get consensus to remove these inactive portal links from articles to avoid unintended traffic to them. —
Spaceman
Spiff
13:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
I just created a stub version of 2001 Census of India, based on two references. Those references contain a lot more detail than what I had time to include. If the topic interests you, please consider contributing to the article. 68.165.77.124 ( talk) 00:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear India experts: This article was declined at Afc and then copied into mainspace. It was tagged with multiple problems, but hasn't been improved. Is this person notable? If so, would someone like to fix up the tone and format of the article? — Anne Delong ( talk) 22:00, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Could need a couple of editors pruning the promo and sorting out the big bunch of URLs found in the Ref section with the subtitle Complaints. Happy editing. Sam Sailor Sing 10:37, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Am I missing something? 2 users said that ONLY boxofficeindia.com is used as RS to quote box office collections of movies [27] [28], meaning that absolutely every other source like Indian Express, CNN-IBN, India Today, Times of India etc is unreliable. Figures of boxofficeindia.com are in sharp contrast with main stream media figures and also with those given by Taran Adarsh and Komal Nahta. Diff is almost 50 cr for India. Is there some discussion which states that only boxofficeindia.com figures should be used in articles? Abhi ( talk) 15:51, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear India experts: The above article will soon be deleted as a stale draft. I can't tell if there is any reason to save it. Can anyone help? — Anne Delong ( talk) 12:56, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Radhe Maa
There are a lot of India-related drafts up for G13 deletion if nobody takes an interest in them. I have saved several that are about professors and scientists, since information about these is easier for me to understand. — Anne Delong ( talk) 14:08, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
I have started discussion on this topic on the talk page of Ayurveda. The link is this. As Ayurveda is considered as Indian medicine, some of the editors might be interested to comment on it. I would like to request experienced editors from India to throw light on this topic so that the article can be further edited with the help of guidance. Thanks. Have a nice day. -- Abhijeet Safai ( talk) 07:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
A User is pushing clear WP:FRINGE in the page, Indian Astronomy, while ignoring every other source, the discussion can be viewed at talk page, all opinions/contribution are welcomed. Justicejayant ( talk) 04:42, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Hinduism#Denominations and History of Hinduism#Advaita Vedanta contain poorly or unrefrenced info on the Smarta tradition and Shankara:
However, academics categorize contemporary Hinduism into four major denominations: Vaishnavism, Shaivism, Shaktism and Smartism.
The Western conception of what Hinduism is has been defined by the Smarta view; many Hindus, who may not understand or follow Advaita philosophy, in contemporary Hinduism, invariably follow the Shanmata belief worshiping many forms of God. One commentator, noting the influence of the Smarta tradition, remarked that although many Hindus may not strictly identify themselves as Smartas but, by adhering to Advaita Vedanta as a foundation for non-sectarianism, are indirect followers.[246]
History of Hinduism#Advaita Vedanta:
The introduction of Advaita Vedanta by Adi Shankara unified the theistic sects into a common framework of Shanmata system.
[Sankara] was a major cause in the revival and integration of Sanatana Dharma. Shankara's reform essentially eclipsed all earlier schools of Hindu philosophy and became the nucleus of the mediaeval traditions, including Smartism and Sant Mat lineages,[48] that lead up to the current religion.
they paved the way for Vedanta to be the dominant and most widely followed tradition among the schools of Hindu philosophy.
These quotes raise several questions:
Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello! Sachin Tendulkar's 200th and last test match scheduled on Nov 14-18 brings his retirement from all types of cricket forms. I am extremely bad with cricket and hence would request you all to take to editing the article, general cleanups and then add more about this match. Scheduled at home-ground Wankhede, the event is going to be a huge one and with that we can nominate it for WP:In the news to feature on main page. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 12:21, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Jayadeva birth controversy . True history shouldn’t be modified by some one’s conspiracy. In free India we expect the truth should be transparent and same for all. So please intellectual of India/Universe discuss about the same and conclude the truth. If Bengal have no strong history , the true history of India should not be modified. Need more discussion as the article being edited many time. All Indian and International Historian are agree with the view of Odisha Origin with all evidence including his own writing form Geetgovind, Archaeological evidence, Evidence based on medieval manuscripts. But still some people claiming for Bengal by giving only evidence from a book just written in 1803. We can refer Jayadeva in Sikhism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanmaya cs ( talk • contribs) 13:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
If any one is interested in editing The Right to Fair Compensation and Transparency in Land Acquisition, Rehabilitation and Resettlement Act, 2013 may pitch in. The article was written when the Act was still in its preliminary stage and need serious editing, from correction of minute figures, to addition of new/modified provisions. Moreover, I am not sure whether the criticism section still hold true for the modified Act. Any further discussion may be continued at the article's talk page. Amartyabag TALK2ME 14:51, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Can some editors familiar with Tamil/Telugu films (and reliable sources in the area) take a look at this article currently at AFD, and determine if it is about a genuinely notable subject, or a fluffed up bio ? The article will need to be cleaned-up even if the subject turns out be notable. Abecedare ( talk) 02:27, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
The article on Jain-Hindu relations has recently been allowed to be recreated. Requesting comments on the draft User:The_Rahul_Jain/Jain-Hindu_relations2. Specifically, what improvements must be made before it can be moved to main article space? Please continue the discussion at Talk:Hinduism_and_Jainism. Rahul Jain ( talk) 10:50, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
-- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:23, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
(xec)I think an article that explores the relationship between Hinduism and Jainism is not a bad idea. Making it neutral is what we've all got to do. I've suggested that RJ delete one of the two articles - perhaps the one in userspace - so that we don't end up with two versions of the same thing and then we can all move ahead with shaping the article itself. There do seem to be references (I have Glasenapp in front of me right now) that discuss the topic.-- regentspark ( comment) 14:33, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
I have copied the contents of User:The Rahul Jain/Jain-Hindu relations2 and its talk page on the main article Hinduism and Jainism, so that we essentially have one article to contribute to. I think this would first solve the problem of multiple article which Abecedare was referring. Rahul Jain ( talk) 16:27, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Since RJ has copied the contents over to Hinduism and Jainism, why don't we rename the article to Jainism and Hinduism - seems more appropriate than the other way round; delete the userspace version; and the wait and see how the mainspace article evolves. Looking through the history of the article (which goes back more than 6 years!) it seems that the next step for removal would be an AfD anyway. Might as well give the article a fair shot before we head in that direction.-- regentspark ( comment) 17:00, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
DRV outcome. - Sitush ( talk) 17:23, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
So where are we then? Should we work on the userspace version - perhaps renaming it to Jainism and Hinduism (the current title is definitely not appropriate)? If everyone is agreed, I'll delete the mainspace version but we need to recognize that the article does need to go through the AfD process at some point if it is to be deleted again and we can't really keep it in userspace for ever unless people are actually working on it. -- regentspark ( comment) 17:34, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
OK. I've deleted the mainspace article and moved the userspace one to [[ User:The_Rahul_Jain/Jainism and Hinduism. The article is being incubated, which means that everyone has a shot at building/modifying/discussing it but it also means that it will go into mainspace once discussion and editing has died down. -- regentspark ( comment) 19:19, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Sab Ke Anokhe Awards is an award show of SAB TV. This is one of the wiki project of India. This wiki needs wiki project india support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.99.140.9 ( talk) 15:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
I want support of wikiproject india for my Article. This is one of the wikiproject, Television shows had a permission to create on Wikipedia. So I ask for get wikiproject india support.-- Krishnadahal12 ( talk) 00:11, 18 November 2013 (UTC) User:Krishnadahal12.
I came across MTV Roadies (season 11) during my new page patrolling duties and thought it was a clear crystal ball type article. However, one thing has made me unsure, and that is that the series already has 6 articles for previous seasons (with an additional 4 seasons without articles) which would make the program notable. I am erring on the side of going through it, putting any appropriate tags on and moving on, but I would appreciate some input. -- Skamecrazy123 ( talk) 11:05, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
The section of "Titles and honorifics" in the guideline Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indic) lists few titles/honorifics, which i think should also include examples along with them. I have started a discussion about it at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Indic)#.22Titles and honorifics.22 to include examples of exceptions. I suppose that page is less frequented and hardly watched. Hence this note here. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { T/ C} 09:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I don't know what to make of Sanat Kumara. Dougweller ( talk) 17:43, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Could someone keep an eye on this article. The only source is a translation of the Mahabharata so I slashed it drastically as WP:OR. But, I suspect, it'll grow again. -- regentspark ( comment) 03:53, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
This seems to be a hot topic at Shiva, Indus Valley Civilization and Pashupati, perhaps others. They really should all say the same thing and be NPOV, which isn't easy. Dougweller ( talk) 07:33, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
WikiSangamotsavam 2013, the annual gathering of users and well wishers of Malayalam Wikimedia projects, will take place from 21-23 December, 2013 in Alappuzha, Kerala. Please click here to go to the official page to see more details.
WikiSangamotsavam - 2013 is our first attempt to invite and host selected members from other Indian Wikipedia communities. We are planning to invite our friends and well-wishers from 14 different language wiki communities in India to this most auspicious occasion hosted by Malayalam wiki community! We are also planning to arrange few scholarships for non-Malayalam Wikimedians who are interested in participating in this event. With all these, we expect this year’s conference shall become the largest outreach program any Indian wiki community have ever attempted.
As a part of WikiSangamotsavam-2013, we are organizing edit-a-thons, WikiVidyarthiSangamam (a conference of students interested in Wikimedia projects), WikiYuvaSangamam (a meetup of youth interested in Wikimedia projects), a computer training session for the differently-abled, a digitization drive to digitize the information regarding wetlands in Kerala and WikiJalaYathra, a wiki voyage through Vembanadu backwaters.
We cordially invite you to participate in WikiSangamotsavam-2013 to share your experiences, to connect with your peers and create partnerships thereby strengthening the Indian Wikimedia community.
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Looking forward to meeting you in Alappuzha from 21-23 December, 2013! -- Netha (talk) 18:12, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Is there any reason to allow all these red links in List of newspapers in India ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)? Most of the film production/director etc lists have only blue links, although those are of course people. It just means anyone can add anything (even if it doesn't exist). Dougweller ( talk) 15:02, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Could do with some input at Talk:India Against Corruption#Neutrality. Thanks. - Sitush ( talk) 20:27, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
What does mofussil mean? It appears in quite a few articles - eg: Tambaram Sanatorium - and I'm getting the impression that it might be equivalent to "suburban" or similar. - Sitush ( talk) 17:46, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
For your reading pleasure, @ Sitush:, may I recomend, Life in the Mofussil, or, The Civilian in Lower Bengal by G. Graham, 1878, especially page 17 (Mutton Club) and page 19 (Ice club). Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
I exmined and noted down referencing related issues for one indic article.(Please see: Talk:Flora Fountain).I am presently stuying lack of referencing in other indic language projects like mr and hi and how do we address those issues as an indic wikipedian community.
This tool server cleanup list data provides for stats on references and citations issues and in roughly 10% articles seems to have been challenged for lack/quality of references and citations issues.When total 54% articles in the project are listed for clean up,only 10% articles do need improvement in referencing.Where as in USA project 28% articles are listed for cleanup but there too articles challenged for references and citations stands roughly around 10%.What do we make out of these stats . Whether Indic articles are really at par with best of wiki project vis a vis references and citations ? or do we have any issues on Indic artilces side.If we do have any issues on Indic side,according to you what are those ?
Mahitgar ( talk) 10:12, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Need_of_inline_Refimprove_template here I left a template creation request. I feel such a template will be usefull for indic sourced content from time to time.
Mahitgar ( talk) 05:29, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Shakya has been getting attention from a bunch of anons and known troublesome other users over the last few months. Do we need to take it back or is there sufficient in the changes to warrant selective amendments? - Sitush ( talk) 08:52, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Concerning Tehelka: Requesting any editors interested in this topic which has been in the news lately, to take part in this discussion involved between me and another user. We could sure use a third opinion. Any help is much appreciated, Ugog Nizdast ( talk) 08:36, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
In India-related (and surrounding countries) articles, I often find and correct missing spaces around punctuation. For example:
What's behind this? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 00:05, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
(I also posted at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks#The Mystery of the Missing Spaces.) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 00:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I'd would appreciate general thoughts regarding infoboxes for articles concerning ongoing elections. I made some comments here and have been reverted here. Apparently, it is "standard" but I see WP:DUE/ WP:NPOV issues and just because it happens somewhere else ... - Sitush ( talk) 13:24, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi! If anyone is interested, comments will be highly appreciated in this peer review. Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 05:50, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
English_exonyms#India. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. In ictu oculi ( talk) 04:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Note:This comment is left at the talk page of WP:INDIA and WP:RELIGION.
There is a dispute at the page Criticism of Jainism. A claim was added by User:Bladesmulti regarding dayananda's views on Jainism. [30] It used a primary source which I hence removed. It was re-added with another reference. [31]. Here is the precise quote from the reference now provided:
The views of Dayanand Saraswati towards other religions as expressed in Satyarth Prakash was strongly condemnatory, predominantly negative and positively intolerant and negative. Jorden observes, "there is quite a lot of sarcastic bitterness" in the criticism of other religions. Dayanand called Jainism a "most dreadful religion" the founders and followers of which are "in dense ignorance". Their tirthankaras were ignorant. Dayanand condemned Christianity as a hollow religion. A barbourous religion and a false religion believed by fools and by people in state of barbarism. Jesus was the one who talked nonsense like savage. not a seer not even an enlightened man. For Dayananda, islam is a false religion that does nothing but harm and should be discarded. Muhammad (PBUH) was not a pious man but was immoral and lascivious. The militant Aryas followed the path of Dayananda and rejected any suggestion to soften Dayananda's criticism of other faiths or to change, in any way, the word of their rsi.
I do not think that the wordings of the article correctly represents the reference provided. I tried removing or rewording the statement, all of which were reverted. [32] [33] [34].
The discussion at the talk page is not helping. One of the user involved ( User:Jethwarp) hasn't even participated. I tried asking for third opinion, but its been six days and no one commented. Can anyone provide their comments in this (preferably at the talk page Talk:Criticism_of_Jainism)? Rahul ( talk) 06:39, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Jethwarp, for suggesting my name. Unfortunately, I'm flat out of time right now. I did compile a list of reliable references on Jainism (especially its antiquity) in this subpage: User:Fowler&fowler/Sources for Jainism. The sources there might be helpful for others (both for the quotes and for who is considered reliable in the scholarly literature). As you've already noted, The Rahul Jain, and I would add, Indian Chronicles, have been pursuing a campaign of selective citing (where, for example, a subordinate clause might be cited, but the main left out) to suit their agenda. Glasenapp, as it is, if I remember right, wrote almost a hundred years ago. Driving all this is a bizarre fixation on the antiquity of Jainism, which stands out even among other antiquity-crazed-India-related fixations. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 16:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
I think there is a rough consensus to remove the views of Dayananda for now. If his views are to be added, I would request the editor to provide a reliable source which contains a good analysis of the criticism. Writing something like "Philosopher Dayananda says Jainism is dreadfull" is just too farfetched. -- Rahul ( talk) 18:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
That and a host of other fantasy articles that The Rahul Jain and Indianchronicles have inflicted upon Wikipedia also have to go. This is a general problem with Wikipedia India pages. People start an article, make one-line sections, add see also, and they think they have article, which, naturally, allows them to create another article. The Rahul Jain, for example, had articles: Jainism in Laos, Jainism in Cambodia, Jainism along the Mekong River, Jainism in the Upper Mekong West Bank, and so forth, not literally, but at the same level of vacuity. Also, as was evident with the snow job Bladesmulti was attempting to do in Criticism of Jainism, there is a tendency among the authors of India-related articles to quote rather than paraphrase. This allows them to avoid the requisite critical engagement with the content needed for making the kind of considered, integrated summaries essential in an encyclopedia. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Help needed. See [36] and User talk:Smaj23#December 2013. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:39, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
User:Smaj23 suddenly received support from a new editor User:Hindu lead in our dispute on Yogi, who consequently has made the same sort of edit, based on WP:OR. Help is welcome again. I guess I've reverted enough already. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 16:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Gita is the old Hindu text which according to Hindu belief contains all the answers of the world, starting from the beginning to the end of the universe and the verses of Gita contains definition of Yogi or sage of steady mind also. Now Gita was written about 5000 years ago and it is in Sanskrit, so it is difficult to cite any content as we cite journal in scientific paper communication. But the verses of Gita and their interpretations are available in the web one of which is cited for your satisfaction.
Also I would like to seek help for finding any book which interpreted the verses of Gita which can satisfy our friends from the Western culture. Since we are very much habituated with those texts from the childhood, (as the Christians are habituated with the Bible, we never questioned and asked Gita as the our western christian friends never questioned Bible) we never needed any book for interpretation.But please find something from any Indian interpretation since it is Indian culture and look at that as the Indians look at not the others. (This is for the correct interpretation of the meaning).
All the best..
Hindu_lead — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hindu lead ( talk • contribs) 16:24, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
If you read my version of the correction, you could see I've quoted the original version of the Gita in Sanskrit and the English translation of the verse. The translation itself gives the meaning, but admin has changed all the content and moved back to previous one which was totally a partial or rather narrow sentiment of some people. And now the article protected. I don't understand why is it? How could be a partial person become the admin??
Hindu_lead — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hindu lead ( talk • contribs) 05:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Some over enthusiastic editors have been changing few articles to reflect yesterday's election results such as adding Vasundra Raje as Rajasthan CM. But the new probable CM's doesn't come to power until sworn in and the old ones continue to be acting CM. I want to know what is the precedent on WP in this kind of situations? Do we leave these changes and reflect factually wrong info for few days or changes reverted? --Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 00:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
When doing work on the article for Śūraṃgamasamādhisūtra, The Concentration of Heroic Progress: An Early Mahayana Buddhist Scripture I noticed there was another book reviewed with that title (the article review I was looking at ended and this one began).
Is anyone interested in doing a search at the University of Houston libraries for book reviews of this book, then going to Wikipedia:RX and obtaining the said book reviews, and then writing an article on this book based on the book reviews? WhisperToMe ( talk) 01:42, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Criticism of Jainism is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticism of Jainism until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- Rahul ( talk) 06:30, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
A GLAM event is planned at the National Museum in New Delhi between 2nd and 5th January 2014. Activities related to this include obtaining media and enhancing or creating articles related to the collections held there. All are welcome to join for article collaborations, requesting media, suggesting articles that might be worth looking at during this session. Some idea of the collections held at the museum can be got by looking under the Collections menu on the museum website http://www.nationalmuseumindia.gov.in (seems to be down at the moment) Do add article/media suggestions and register if you are interested at Wikipedia:GLAM/NM Shyamal ( talk) 02:07, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Participation on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan would be welcome. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)