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No more Mottos. They ran out on June 18th and all we have left are redlinks! Enigma message 03:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I've been a frequent contributor to MOTD for over a year. However, I will likely soon not be able to participate (much) in the project. I suggest that if possible, to vote on, close, and schedule the remaning mottos. Best wishes, ~ A H 1( T C U) 22:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Change "A Editor's A Editor" to "An Editor" please...grammar!-- Editor510 drop us a line, mate 08:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I just updated the failsafes to the MOTD templates since there wasn't a motto set for today, and aren't any more set at all. If there is no motto for the given day, the template will use yesterday's motto, and if there is no motto for yesterday, it will resort to the emergency "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" motto. Should anyone notice that being used in the motto, or notice that the motto doesn't change, it might be a good idea to add some more mottos to the schedule. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 04:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I just approved and added to the schedule almost two week's worth of mottos (through August 12) that had been sitting in the "Awaiting decision" section for months. Unfortunately, we've only got enough mottos with sufficient support to be approved left to get us to the end of August - if that far. We really need some more suggestions, and a lot more interest in this than it appears we've had of late (ok, I admit, I haven't been hanging around much myself either) to keep things running, or else we need to amend our policies and start repeating some mottos. Our archives contain mottos from May 20, 2006. I highly doubt that anyone's going to remember any from over two years ago, so maybe if there comes a point where we need more mottos but the nominations list is running short, we can start over from the beginning until we've got more new ones to use. To avoid re-repeating, reused mottos should be marked with Done or something. What does everyone think about this?
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Just noticed it. It's a little misleading, because AIV isn't really the ideal place to report personal attacks. Enigma message 00:50, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
I had never come across this project until today, and got here now following a link posted by Hersfold at the help desk. The very first thing I looked for is a link to past mottos that were approved and posted as to me, seeing that will give me the best idea about the project. Is there a page listing past mottos used? Most projects of this sort maintain such a page, i.e., tip of the day, DYK, etc.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 02:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I realize that I'm closing some rather weak consensuses, and several that I participated in, but to be honest there isn't much option for it. If you'd rather I wait until more comments have been made before closing a discussion, go make those comments. If you'd rather I not close one I've participated in, go close it yourself. The closing process is relatively easy, and anyone can do it - you don't have to be an administrator. Please, I really could use some help with this, as I'm very busy for the next week or so. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 12:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Should a standard one sentence quote have a period at the end? I noticed that some of them do and some don't. Enigma message 00:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I have just been informed on my talk page that this Project is having trouble with continuing. I have the motto on my user page, but I guess more for visitors than myself. I can not say I think this project is all that important. I certainly do not have time to contribute. I will however make a suggestion. We have mottoes for 2007. I suggest these are moved into place for the same dates in 2008, thereby filling the gaps. That would give us 12 months of mottoes that be used again in 2009. The next step would be to modify the selection process to have one section for nominating new mottoes, with space for editors to support them. Another section would be a list of nominations for mottoes to be removed, again with a list for supporters. Then when anyone notices that one new mottos has more than, say, ten supports and one for removal has more than ten supports, the new proposal could replace the old proposal. In this way the list could be improved, but it would still run if there was nobody working on it all the time. What do you think? -- Bduke ( talk) 05:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
The schedule has not been updated since 31st August 2008, and for tomorrow (6th September) we have no motto. A new motto cannot be assigned either since approved mottos list is empty. Shouldn't we get something from the current nominations fast? Chamal Talk 14:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I used to be the idiot in charge of this. Glad to see it's still going since my departure from WP. The Duke of Motto of the day 04:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi folks, I've moved 7 mottos to the decisions list (all approved, some as per WP:SNOW). Would someone be kind enough to allocate dates for them? Ta muchly • xytram• tk cs gy 10:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi folks, I've been playing around in my sandbox and come up with these possible changes which may improve the way mottos are kept and maintained. These are based on the decision boxes used on WP:AFC. Comments are welcome! • xytram• tk cs gy 16:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
A way to attract attention and solve the problem of not enough mottos would be to reuse the best of the old - and chose the best in well advertised wiki vote/discussion that would attract more attention to this project. I certainly think seeing good, old motto's few times is better than eventing poor new ones just because we desperately want new. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Is this area of the project in use anymore? Simply south ( talk) 17:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
This looks like a project in need of a major overhaul. Especially the Nomination and Scheduling process, but other things could stand to be rewritten, or the styling to be redone. Since I haven't done much with MOTD on this account, and quite a bit on an old account (where many, many, many new mottoes were posted daily), I do need to get back in touch with the processes that drive this project.
But here are a few questions:
Please get back to me. Do not reply below this post, it is in many locations. Please leave all concerns here. Thank you Q A E 01:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Has no links? [ roux ] [ x 22:44, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Has there been any thought to dropping a MOTD award on the talk page of the nominator? I just happen to notice that one suggestion I made was used(sorry I've not contributed more) but if I'd not logged in that day I would have missed it. Kind of like a gold star on your Wikispace like DYK does. Something fun to collect on a contributions page :-) This might encourage more to participate. Geaugagrrl ☎ 06:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
This grey area i think should be sorted. Consensus is based both on votes and reasoning, when it comes to deciding on the motto. Should there be a minimum on the supports to pass?
Also mottos get rejected due to lots of weak supports or less or majority rule. I think the consensus area should be clarified and sorted out rather than one person's opinion differing over another. And btw, i am not trying to impose my earlier idea of minimum three votes, it is just a suggestion and i am just say that the area should be determined. Simply south ( talk) 21:51, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
While the nominations page has gone through enough of the pros and cons, as a mere utiliser of the MOTD on my user page I have to say that the use of a template within the motto is extremely annoying. I will fully admit that, in my ignorance, I assumed someone had vandalised one of the nested templates somewhere or that perhaps I was suffering from some sort of cache quirk; I even opened up two other browsers to verify that this was not the case.
The long and the short of it is that I, one single follower and user of the MOTD, detest the format of today's motto. I haven't even looked at the message, links, or even the mere words due to the great distraction of the seemingly-misplaced infobox. The work MOTD contributors do is appreciated, but I'd like to vote my "nay" on this experiment. :) - chicgeek talk 02:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
"Is this where I make some short speech that everyone will learn from in some way?" That was the quote thing. Try it and see if anyone likes it. Gaaras girl434 ( talk) 15:55, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey there! the motto for today is: the best of those is the one who is at the top but doesn't look down on others!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.247.205.67 ( talk) 13:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
There have been some objections raised about my tendency to offer support for my own mottos. The arguements against have been that-
My counter-arguements-
If there is a consensus for me to stop this practice, I will do so. The last thing I want to be is disruptive. Comments? Nutiketaiel ( talk) 18:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi guys, I just whipped up this new motd template and I was wondering if I could add it to the list of templates.
This is the link to the template : {{User:Killeroid/MOTD}} and this is what it looks like
Hope someone likes it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Killeroid ( talk • contribs)
I have added a search box for the archives to the archive page, hope it works okay. Wikiert T S C 18:15, 15 March 2009 (UTC) :)
Someone has made a few suggestions for a new MotD Barnstar. I suggest everyone head over and offer their two cents at the Wikiproject Wikipedia Awards talkpage. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 14:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Do you think this month (and again every year) should celebrate the anniversary of the project? Based on my research, this project is just over 4 years old. However a rather ironic thing is that there are many mottos about fighting vandalism and the founder was banned from Wikipedia for sockpuppetry. Simply south ( talk) 10:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I've got an idea! Not the best though. How about we select the best motto of the year? (i.e. the best motto from the period April 2008- April 2009.)
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Running out of mottos... The last one on the schedule is on the 19th or something and today is the 16th. Can someone sort it out, as I'm sure we don't want to have to resort to the same motto as the day before, or 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia', the emergency motto. I don't think that I would be very good at making a decision on the mottos, so can someone review some of the oldest ones still in discussion and decide on them, please? Wikiert T S C 15:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I updated the barnstar for you as requested, but Queenie seems to have retired, so you might not have known. OrangeDog ( talk • edits) 12:33, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
My suggestion: "Life is what happens while you were planning other things." And "Don't give up your dreams - the world is built on dreams" (quoted by Peter Cullen, voice actor). Finally, “Hide not your talents. They for use were made. What’s a sundial in the shade.” Benjamin Franklin.
Where is the list of all MOTD? -- Robinson weijman ( talk) 08:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I didn't know i had done that. For the proper section, please see Wikipedia talk:Motto of the day/Nominations#Archival Simply south ( talk) 11:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Can't these mottos, sayings, quotes, or whatever be more Wikipedia-related? Something inspiring for editors maybe? -- OlEnglish ( Talk) 03:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Is it OK to decide to approve a motto I nominated if the consensus is clearly support? (I mean, lots of people seem to support All Things Must Pass.) Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 14:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Lately there has been a lack of interest in Motto of the Day. I suggest we maybe try to recruit new contributors, or ask former active contributors to add a new motto or review a couple of mottos. Any suggestions?-- LAA Fan sign review 03:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, all of those suggestions are good, but we are forgetting one important rule: get the word out. See, the people don't jear about this unless they can find it easily, not by searching deep for a couple of weeks, and so far, we have only 2 ways to get the word out. We should make a Wikiad. I'll contact my long-time partner, Master of Puppets, to help us in our time of need. Secret Saturdays ( talk to me)
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I'd like to join, is there any protocol or stuff to joining? Do I have to submit one every <period of time>?
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I don't think people actually look at wikipedia ads. (I learnt about the MOTD from - yeah, I know it sounds funny but - from the Recent Changes while I was doing some recent changes patrolling! :)) Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 15:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I have just approved two special nominations for Christmas. Both had a positive consensus. Instead of holding one for 2010, I approved one for Dec. 25 and one for Dec. 24. My consensus to choose which on Dec. 25 was based purely on the motto ( Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 25, 2009) which gives a direct reference to Christmas, while the other ( Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 24, 2009) can be used on Christmas Eve. Thanks.-- LAA Fan sign review 00:07, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I saw tomorrow's motto is:
→ I do not look upon these United States as a finished product. We are still in the making.
But wouldn't WP:Wikipedia is a work in progress make more sense than Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia, for "we are still in the making"? I didn't know if I should edit the motto, so I thought I would ask here. -- Intelligent sium 00:25, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
What should be done about this project in future. This has been for the last few months teetering on running dry with only short bursts when encouraging people. Yesterday was one of the closest times i have seen being out of mottos and we seem to be just surviving on 5 days ahead. Maybe this project should have the same motto repeated the next day, bring up past mottos to be reused, become MOTW or something else. What can we do to save it? Signpost? Simply south ( talk) 01:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
What about using the MOTD ads:
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or a text version??? – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 16:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Can we perhaps request help on the Community Portal? Noneofyour ( talk) 22:22, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
I find the motto gently amusing and I have it on my user page, but I do not consider it that important. It is by no means mission critical for wikipedia. I very much doubt that you would get community support for putting the motto on anything even remotely as important as the main page. I would certainly oppose it. -- Bduke (Discussion) 11:02, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Consensus is against featuring even good articles on the front page; there's simply no way the community is going to agree to putting up MOTD there. Don't even bother asking. Asking the "old timers" to contribute is not going to work. What we need is a way to attract new editors, because from what I've seen here, they work with more enthusiasm on this project than us. Anyway, here's a new ad for your consideration :)
Feel free to edit it (as you can see, it's PD), but please don't add it as a Wikipedia ad just yet. If this is approved, we have to replace the existing banner with this to avoid having 2 banners for MOTD (which would mean either renaming the existing banner or uploading this one over it). ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 04:17, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
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Wikipedia is written by volunteer editors and hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation, a non-profit organization that also hosts a range of other volunteer projects:
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Now I don't want to sound like a fool, but why does it seem that even mottos that are usually classified into the 'no consensus' category are often approved, and that there are very few declines apart from those such as 'in favour of edit n' or 'in favour of original'? This phenomenon didn't seemed to be absent when I joined last August. (Did something happen during my wikibreak?) Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 06:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I've put all the pieces of MOTD guidelines together and added some rules of my own, here. Please comment on it before I move it to WP:Motto of the day/General rules. Then we would have clear rules on the MOTD. Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 06:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
OK, so what should it be called when we move it to the pedia namespace? Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse 12:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
I think we should prepare a set of mottos that we can use whenever there is an emergency. These mottos might be a little bland be they should be better than nothing but a redlink. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Why not just set it to automatically recycle the older mottos from the past? Kinda like how Tip of the day works.. I think they just schedule one set tip for each day of the month, rather than a new one for each day of the year. I'd rather have good daily mottos that were verified and approved by consensus appearing on my userpage rather than this kinda stuff. -- œ ™ 03:48, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I just noticed that the current motto placeholder for 3/30/10 is not a redlink to the motto page, but rather "This Space For Rent.", linking directly to WP:MOTD. Is this the actual motto, or was this supposed to be for a certain holiday? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmmwhatsthisdo ( talk • contribs) 16:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
ROFLOL ~ IMHO this motto is by far the best motto we saw in years (^____^)!!! At least an editor posted a comment here, and another suggested a motto. Great! LOL ~ I think, we should use it as our emergency motto, but pointing to the MOTD participants page. Only in emergency cases, we can also add a section there (to point to) just above the contributors list, asking editors to join and contribute to MOTD. – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 11:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason for many of the mottos sitting there approved or rejected not being moved to the Decisions page? Smaug123 ( talk) 11:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Today, I moved and then archived the approved mottoes in the special nominations section (from Jan 2009 to Jan 2010 or so). I was not sure about the procedure to follow, but I added them to archive 25, because it was smaller than A-24. – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 11:04, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason why there is no motto for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/May 31, 2010 in the Schedule? Wasn't sure if there was a reason, or what the best remedy would be if it was just an oversight. – Liveste ( talk • edits) 02:07, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I have a new idea that relates to the concept for WP:SNOW. Is it okay that I add it to the guidelines page? Secret Saturdays ( talk to me) 03:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I would go and fix this normally, but I'm too lazy, so I'll ask someone else. Why is the text centered on the last few sections, and can someone go fix it? ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 22:36, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Think we can get the motto up on the main page? We wouldn't need much room to do it and if it does happen even IP's would be able to see the mottos we have. Even if they don't, if would be a major viewer plus. Derild 49 21 ☼ 13:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
What do you think of starting a "Motto Shop?" You're thinking, this guy is nuts. Well, actually here's the inspiration. My first motto I submitted into MOTD was actually published, and it was special to me, so I made that my motto to live by on Wikipedia. Attracted some negative feedback, but hey, it works for me. So, I thought we could spread the joy of having a motto to live by on the wiki by creating a motto shop. Here's the cheese. We make a link on our userpages to a special page on MOTD. There they will get to see the two types of mottoes we can create: an original motto or an inspired (quoted) motto. Then they click on a link to where they will be prompted to fill out a template that says what kind of motto they want, and what they want it to say. Then we really have to get our creative juices flowing so we can come up with a motto. No prize for the one who finishes first. Finally we post the motto on the requester's talk page and viola! That person has a motto to live by on the wiki if they couldn't think of one on their own. We probably have the more experience than they do so that's why they would turn to us. Anyway, whaddaya think? Beluga boy how's my driving? 11:43, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Its just like what I mentioned in my comment, make it so that people can "claim" requests and make it known that a request is taken so that there won't be conflict over which editor started on a request first. Derild 49 21 ☼ 00:39, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Determine consensus here. Beluga boy how's my driving? 15:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I will consult User:Rock drum on how to make an order template, and then the person who is the best at templates will create it. Per Derlid's request, we will do a claim system, where you shall put a tick mark and Claimed by <nonwiki> Beluga boy how's my driving?</nonwiki> under the order. The person who claimed the motto shall create it and edit it before posting it on the bottom of the order and the customer's talk page. This shall continue as long as this shall go on. Consensus: should we do a consensus every Christmas to determine who the "team captain" will be? Please put thoughts below the outdent. Back on track, once we get to full, speed, the go-karts will do a little bumping and we'll have to put the brake pedal to the metal and fix it (meaning we will run into a few conflicts from time to time and temporarily put all orders on hold). So go on ahead, any changes are welcome. LAST-MINUTE SUGGESTION: Should we make a section on the WP:MOTD page about it? Beluga boy how's my driving? 22:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Consensus on "team captain:" Somewhere between weak support and support—Would help with primary coordination of shop, but we would have to post a message on their usertalk to keep them from acting like kings. Beluga boy how's my driving? 22:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
You can find all the links to the templates here. I'll get 'em set up on the page. Looks like it's gonna work out! Beluga boy how's my driving? 15:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Alrighty, let's see here... I've created an icon for it, changed the navbox, created a page for participants, requests, and the templates that they can put their motto in, created all of those templates, based on most of the ones on the main page, tweaked the templates for requesting that Belugaboy already had, and... And that's about it. Did I miss anything? Oh yes, I added a link to the motto shop in my welcome template. Anyone want to give me a pat on the back? :) ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
It would help if you told me what part you didn't understand... ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 01:37, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, what I was thinking was that we don't want to just leave them hanging around on that page; to keep it clean. So what I'm wanting to know is if we'll definitely have a request done within two days. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 03:31, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
By the way, what do you think of the motto that I came up with? It's the first one ever that I've made; I'm actually pretty surprised that I could do it. :) I'm going to have the archiving be four days; does that seem okay? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 03:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I have posted a blogpost about the motto shop here. If you don't want me to mention you, please tell me at my talk page immediately and I will remove your name. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:35, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't think that you need to be a "grown-up" to understand that; it's in quite a few comics that I have seen, and other places. As for not being from the states, you are probably right; the "Last Page" in Smithsonian magazine had something about that a while ago; it pretty much said that every country has it's own idioms, and pointed out how hard it was for this American to give a speech to a bunch of French people (That may be the first time ever that I've had two semicolons in one sentence). :) ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 05:33, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Should the motto be attributed to the person receiving it or the MS participant who made up the motto? Kayau Voting IS evil 03:58, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
...That sounds like a good idea on all counts. :) ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 05:05, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
This would not be necessary when we use a quote, I take it? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 05:50, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I think we should have an advertising message. I could use one to tell some Wikipedians about it. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Done advertising message; {{
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So, I've dropped a message at VPM, advertising our new changes and running discussions. Please expect a sudden growth of people coming to comment! :) ( ok, ok.) Kayau Voting IS evil 02:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey, so I added a little notice to the {{ Motd nav}} template (which Hi878 rudely removed); I thought the project might be interested in the Fundraising Campaign this year. Unlike last year, where 'the pros' designed the WP forever campaign (and everyone hated it), WMF has decided to work with the community. There are plenty of ideas to review and it would be nice to think of some new ones. Everything's on Meta at meta:Fundraising 2010. Cheers! ℳono 02:26, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi, can someone please explain to me how "Never be rude to an Arab" (today's motto) is clever/smart/funny/whatever because, from my point of view, it just seems stupid and a little bit racist. Jenks24 ( talk) 16:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Because I want to give them a barnstar! It's great! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, i've just created User:Benzband/Motd, a new motto template. It's basically copied from User:Rcsprinter123/Header and Template:Motd. benzband ( talk) 14:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
On January 22nd, an issue emerged on the use of lyrics as well as quotes for mottoes. Relevant discussions can be found at User_talk:Benzband/Archives/January_2012#MotD_CSD, User_talk:Pjoef#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Motto_of_the_day.2FJanuary_22.2C_2012, User talk:Simply south#Re:Viva la Vida and User_talk:Hi878/Archive_4#Speedy_deletion.
What should be done about this or is this a case of IAR? Simply south.... .. having large explosions for 5 years 16:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
As I stated before in other talk pages about this issue, I'm not going to approve mottoes with quotations —which are NOT in the public domain
[a] from lyrics (but also books, articles, interviews, movies, TV, and etcetera) created after 1923-12-31! But, if someone will do it, then I will take and assume all the responsibility and I MUST BE BLOCKED FROM EDITING INSTEAD OF HIM/HER/THEM/WHOEVER!
I don't know if Arbcom is the right place to discuss this, but the Wikimedia Foundation isn't either. There are many Wiki sites that belong to the Wikimedia Foundation and each of them has its own rules depending on the language and legislation. For example, the copyright policies and guidelines for the English Wikipedia are different from those within the German or Italian versions. MotD works on the English Wikipedia, and in this place we must discuss and find a solution.
Anyway, I checked all the English Wikipedia policies and guidelines about non-free content, plagiarism, quotations and fair use (please, see
this) I'm not a judge nor a lawyer or an attorney, but I have NOT found any violation of the above. In my humble opinion, the special point is stated in the last part of
Quotations#Copyrighted material and fair use:
“A special case is the use of quotations purely for interest or decorative purposes on user pages. By consensus such quotations are acceptable as long as they are limited in extent [...].
The motto of the day is shown on users' pages, consequently, and in my humble opinion, the use of small portions of copyrighted materials falls under this "special case" and qualifies as fair use.
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Should quotes and lyrics be used as mottoes in the project? Simply south.... .. having large explosions for 5 years 21:46, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Just wondering why the past 2 MOTD pages haven't been created? I would dive in but don't want to mess anything planned up :) ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 01:54, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
There was a discussion about reusing old mottos randomly just in case there is not a motto for a given day, but the proposal was rejected (or not implemented).
Here are the links to the archives:
2006;
2007;
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2009;
2010;
2011. –
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Also don't forget for emergency nmottos, see Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Emergencies. Simply south.... .. facing oncoming traffic for over 5 years 18:47, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi guys, sorry I've not been around. Life kinda getting in the way. Less money for more work these days! sigh... • martyx• tk ct gy 14:19, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
How about unifying the MotD templates by replacing their core with a common template? Then the differences between each would be only through the formatting (and extra little bits) and also it would be easier to implement changes/fixes/emergency fallbacks (i noticed certain templates don't have a "fallback" capability of displaying the default Wikipedia: The free encyclopedia (or other) motto when the motd is a red link) :
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random motto}}
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No more Mottos. They ran out on June 18th and all we have left are redlinks! Enigma message 03:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I've been a frequent contributor to MOTD for over a year. However, I will likely soon not be able to participate (much) in the project. I suggest that if possible, to vote on, close, and schedule the remaning mottos. Best wishes, ~ A H 1( T C U) 22:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Change "A Editor's A Editor" to "An Editor" please...grammar!-- Editor510 drop us a line, mate 08:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I just updated the failsafes to the MOTD templates since there wasn't a motto set for today, and aren't any more set at all. If there is no motto for the given day, the template will use yesterday's motto, and if there is no motto for yesterday, it will resort to the emergency "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" motto. Should anyone notice that being used in the motto, or notice that the motto doesn't change, it might be a good idea to add some more mottos to the schedule. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 04:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I just approved and added to the schedule almost two week's worth of mottos (through August 12) that had been sitting in the "Awaiting decision" section for months. Unfortunately, we've only got enough mottos with sufficient support to be approved left to get us to the end of August - if that far. We really need some more suggestions, and a lot more interest in this than it appears we've had of late (ok, I admit, I haven't been hanging around much myself either) to keep things running, or else we need to amend our policies and start repeating some mottos. Our archives contain mottos from May 20, 2006. I highly doubt that anyone's going to remember any from over two years ago, so maybe if there comes a point where we need more mottos but the nominations list is running short, we can start over from the beginning until we've got more new ones to use. To avoid re-repeating, reused mottos should be marked with Done or something. What does everyone think about this?
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Just noticed it. It's a little misleading, because AIV isn't really the ideal place to report personal attacks. Enigma message 00:50, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
I had never come across this project until today, and got here now following a link posted by Hersfold at the help desk. The very first thing I looked for is a link to past mottos that were approved and posted as to me, seeing that will give me the best idea about the project. Is there a page listing past mottos used? Most projects of this sort maintain such a page, i.e., tip of the day, DYK, etc.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 02:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I realize that I'm closing some rather weak consensuses, and several that I participated in, but to be honest there isn't much option for it. If you'd rather I wait until more comments have been made before closing a discussion, go make those comments. If you'd rather I not close one I've participated in, go close it yourself. The closing process is relatively easy, and anyone can do it - you don't have to be an administrator. Please, I really could use some help with this, as I'm very busy for the next week or so. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 12:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Should a standard one sentence quote have a period at the end? I noticed that some of them do and some don't. Enigma message 00:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I have just been informed on my talk page that this Project is having trouble with continuing. I have the motto on my user page, but I guess more for visitors than myself. I can not say I think this project is all that important. I certainly do not have time to contribute. I will however make a suggestion. We have mottoes for 2007. I suggest these are moved into place for the same dates in 2008, thereby filling the gaps. That would give us 12 months of mottoes that be used again in 2009. The next step would be to modify the selection process to have one section for nominating new mottoes, with space for editors to support them. Another section would be a list of nominations for mottoes to be removed, again with a list for supporters. Then when anyone notices that one new mottos has more than, say, ten supports and one for removal has more than ten supports, the new proposal could replace the old proposal. In this way the list could be improved, but it would still run if there was nobody working on it all the time. What do you think? -- Bduke ( talk) 05:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
The schedule has not been updated since 31st August 2008, and for tomorrow (6th September) we have no motto. A new motto cannot be assigned either since approved mottos list is empty. Shouldn't we get something from the current nominations fast? Chamal Talk 14:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I used to be the idiot in charge of this. Glad to see it's still going since my departure from WP. The Duke of Motto of the day 04:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi folks, I've moved 7 mottos to the decisions list (all approved, some as per WP:SNOW). Would someone be kind enough to allocate dates for them? Ta muchly • xytram• tk cs gy 10:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi folks, I've been playing around in my sandbox and come up with these possible changes which may improve the way mottos are kept and maintained. These are based on the decision boxes used on WP:AFC. Comments are welcome! • xytram• tk cs gy 16:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
A way to attract attention and solve the problem of not enough mottos would be to reuse the best of the old - and chose the best in well advertised wiki vote/discussion that would attract more attention to this project. I certainly think seeing good, old motto's few times is better than eventing poor new ones just because we desperately want new. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Is this area of the project in use anymore? Simply south ( talk) 17:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
This looks like a project in need of a major overhaul. Especially the Nomination and Scheduling process, but other things could stand to be rewritten, or the styling to be redone. Since I haven't done much with MOTD on this account, and quite a bit on an old account (where many, many, many new mottoes were posted daily), I do need to get back in touch with the processes that drive this project.
But here are a few questions:
Please get back to me. Do not reply below this post, it is in many locations. Please leave all concerns here. Thank you Q A E 01:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Has no links? [ roux ] [ x 22:44, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Has there been any thought to dropping a MOTD award on the talk page of the nominator? I just happen to notice that one suggestion I made was used(sorry I've not contributed more) but if I'd not logged in that day I would have missed it. Kind of like a gold star on your Wikispace like DYK does. Something fun to collect on a contributions page :-) This might encourage more to participate. Geaugagrrl ☎ 06:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
This grey area i think should be sorted. Consensus is based both on votes and reasoning, when it comes to deciding on the motto. Should there be a minimum on the supports to pass?
Also mottos get rejected due to lots of weak supports or less or majority rule. I think the consensus area should be clarified and sorted out rather than one person's opinion differing over another. And btw, i am not trying to impose my earlier idea of minimum three votes, it is just a suggestion and i am just say that the area should be determined. Simply south ( talk) 21:51, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
While the nominations page has gone through enough of the pros and cons, as a mere utiliser of the MOTD on my user page I have to say that the use of a template within the motto is extremely annoying. I will fully admit that, in my ignorance, I assumed someone had vandalised one of the nested templates somewhere or that perhaps I was suffering from some sort of cache quirk; I even opened up two other browsers to verify that this was not the case.
The long and the short of it is that I, one single follower and user of the MOTD, detest the format of today's motto. I haven't even looked at the message, links, or even the mere words due to the great distraction of the seemingly-misplaced infobox. The work MOTD contributors do is appreciated, but I'd like to vote my "nay" on this experiment. :) - chicgeek talk 02:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
"Is this where I make some short speech that everyone will learn from in some way?" That was the quote thing. Try it and see if anyone likes it. Gaaras girl434 ( talk) 15:55, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey there! the motto for today is: the best of those is the one who is at the top but doesn't look down on others!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.247.205.67 ( talk) 13:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
There have been some objections raised about my tendency to offer support for my own mottos. The arguements against have been that-
My counter-arguements-
If there is a consensus for me to stop this practice, I will do so. The last thing I want to be is disruptive. Comments? Nutiketaiel ( talk) 18:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi guys, I just whipped up this new motd template and I was wondering if I could add it to the list of templates.
This is the link to the template : {{User:Killeroid/MOTD}} and this is what it looks like
Hope someone likes it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Killeroid ( talk • contribs)
I have added a search box for the archives to the archive page, hope it works okay. Wikiert T S C 18:15, 15 March 2009 (UTC) :)
Someone has made a few suggestions for a new MotD Barnstar. I suggest everyone head over and offer their two cents at the Wikiproject Wikipedia Awards talkpage. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 14:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Do you think this month (and again every year) should celebrate the anniversary of the project? Based on my research, this project is just over 4 years old. However a rather ironic thing is that there are many mottos about fighting vandalism and the founder was banned from Wikipedia for sockpuppetry. Simply south ( talk) 10:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I've got an idea! Not the best though. How about we select the best motto of the year? (i.e. the best motto from the period April 2008- April 2009.)
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Running out of mottos... The last one on the schedule is on the 19th or something and today is the 16th. Can someone sort it out, as I'm sure we don't want to have to resort to the same motto as the day before, or 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia', the emergency motto. I don't think that I would be very good at making a decision on the mottos, so can someone review some of the oldest ones still in discussion and decide on them, please? Wikiert T S C 15:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I updated the barnstar for you as requested, but Queenie seems to have retired, so you might not have known. OrangeDog ( talk • edits) 12:33, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
My suggestion: "Life is what happens while you were planning other things." And "Don't give up your dreams - the world is built on dreams" (quoted by Peter Cullen, voice actor). Finally, “Hide not your talents. They for use were made. What’s a sundial in the shade.” Benjamin Franklin.
Where is the list of all MOTD? -- Robinson weijman ( talk) 08:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I didn't know i had done that. For the proper section, please see Wikipedia talk:Motto of the day/Nominations#Archival Simply south ( talk) 11:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Can't these mottos, sayings, quotes, or whatever be more Wikipedia-related? Something inspiring for editors maybe? -- OlEnglish ( Talk) 03:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Is it OK to decide to approve a motto I nominated if the consensus is clearly support? (I mean, lots of people seem to support All Things Must Pass.) Kayau David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby 14:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Lately there has been a lack of interest in Motto of the Day. I suggest we maybe try to recruit new contributors, or ask former active contributors to add a new motto or review a couple of mottos. Any suggestions?-- LAA Fan sign review 03:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, all of those suggestions are good, but we are forgetting one important rule: get the word out. See, the people don't jear about this unless they can find it easily, not by searching deep for a couple of weeks, and so far, we have only 2 ways to get the word out. We should make a Wikiad. I'll contact my long-time partner, Master of Puppets, to help us in our time of need. Secret Saturdays ( talk to me)
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I'd like to join, is there any protocol or stuff to joining? Do I have to submit one every <period of time>?
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I don't think people actually look at wikipedia ads. (I learnt about the MOTD from - yeah, I know it sounds funny but - from the Recent Changes while I was doing some recent changes patrolling! :)) Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 15:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I have just approved two special nominations for Christmas. Both had a positive consensus. Instead of holding one for 2010, I approved one for Dec. 25 and one for Dec. 24. My consensus to choose which on Dec. 25 was based purely on the motto ( Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 25, 2009) which gives a direct reference to Christmas, while the other ( Wikipedia:Motto of the day/December 24, 2009) can be used on Christmas Eve. Thanks.-- LAA Fan sign review 00:07, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I saw tomorrow's motto is:
→ I do not look upon these United States as a finished product. We are still in the making.
But wouldn't WP:Wikipedia is a work in progress make more sense than Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia, for "we are still in the making"? I didn't know if I should edit the motto, so I thought I would ask here. -- Intelligent sium 00:25, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
What should be done about this project in future. This has been for the last few months teetering on running dry with only short bursts when encouraging people. Yesterday was one of the closest times i have seen being out of mottos and we seem to be just surviving on 5 days ahead. Maybe this project should have the same motto repeated the next day, bring up past mottos to be reused, become MOTW or something else. What can we do to save it? Signpost? Simply south ( talk) 01:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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or a text version??? – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 16:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Can we perhaps request help on the Community Portal? Noneofyour ( talk) 22:22, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
I find the motto gently amusing and I have it on my user page, but I do not consider it that important. It is by no means mission critical for wikipedia. I very much doubt that you would get community support for putting the motto on anything even remotely as important as the main page. I would certainly oppose it. -- Bduke (Discussion) 11:02, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Consensus is against featuring even good articles on the front page; there's simply no way the community is going to agree to putting up MOTD there. Don't even bother asking. Asking the "old timers" to contribute is not going to work. What we need is a way to attract new editors, because from what I've seen here, they work with more enthusiasm on this project than us. Anyway, here's a new ad for your consideration :)
Feel free to edit it (as you can see, it's PD), but please don't add it as a Wikipedia ad just yet. If this is approved, we have to replace the existing banner with this to avoid having 2 banners for MOTD (which would mean either renaming the existing banner or uploading this one over it). ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 04:17, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
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Now I don't want to sound like a fool, but why does it seem that even mottos that are usually classified into the 'no consensus' category are often approved, and that there are very few declines apart from those such as 'in favour of edit n' or 'in favour of original'? This phenomenon didn't seemed to be absent when I joined last August. (Did something happen during my wikibreak?) Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 06:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I've put all the pieces of MOTD guidelines together and added some rules of my own, here. Please comment on it before I move it to WP:Motto of the day/General rules. Then we would have clear rules on the MOTD. Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse BACK FROM EXAMS 06:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
OK, so what should it be called when we move it to the pedia namespace? Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse 12:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
I think we should prepare a set of mottos that we can use whenever there is an emergency. These mottos might be a little bland be they should be better than nothing but a redlink. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Why not just set it to automatically recycle the older mottos from the past? Kinda like how Tip of the day works.. I think they just schedule one set tip for each day of the month, rather than a new one for each day of the year. I'd rather have good daily mottos that were verified and approved by consensus appearing on my userpage rather than this kinda stuff. -- œ ™ 03:48, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I just noticed that the current motto placeholder for 3/30/10 is not a redlink to the motto page, but rather "This Space For Rent.", linking directly to WP:MOTD. Is this the actual motto, or was this supposed to be for a certain holiday? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmmwhatsthisdo ( talk • contribs) 16:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
ROFLOL ~ IMHO this motto is by far the best motto we saw in years (^____^)!!! At least an editor posted a comment here, and another suggested a motto. Great! LOL ~ I think, we should use it as our emergency motto, but pointing to the MOTD participants page. Only in emergency cases, we can also add a section there (to point to) just above the contributors list, asking editors to join and contribute to MOTD. – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 11:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason for many of the mottos sitting there approved or rejected not being moved to the Decisions page? Smaug123 ( talk) 11:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Today, I moved and then archived the approved mottoes in the special nominations section (from Jan 2009 to Jan 2010 or so). I was not sure about the procedure to follow, but I added them to archive 25, because it was smaller than A-24. – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 11:04, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason why there is no motto for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/May 31, 2010 in the Schedule? Wasn't sure if there was a reason, or what the best remedy would be if it was just an oversight. – Liveste ( talk • edits) 02:07, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I have a new idea that relates to the concept for WP:SNOW. Is it okay that I add it to the guidelines page? Secret Saturdays ( talk to me) 03:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I would go and fix this normally, but I'm too lazy, so I'll ask someone else. Why is the text centered on the last few sections, and can someone go fix it? ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 22:36, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Think we can get the motto up on the main page? We wouldn't need much room to do it and if it does happen even IP's would be able to see the mottos we have. Even if they don't, if would be a major viewer plus. Derild 49 21 ☼ 13:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
What do you think of starting a "Motto Shop?" You're thinking, this guy is nuts. Well, actually here's the inspiration. My first motto I submitted into MOTD was actually published, and it was special to me, so I made that my motto to live by on Wikipedia. Attracted some negative feedback, but hey, it works for me. So, I thought we could spread the joy of having a motto to live by on the wiki by creating a motto shop. Here's the cheese. We make a link on our userpages to a special page on MOTD. There they will get to see the two types of mottoes we can create: an original motto or an inspired (quoted) motto. Then they click on a link to where they will be prompted to fill out a template that says what kind of motto they want, and what they want it to say. Then we really have to get our creative juices flowing so we can come up with a motto. No prize for the one who finishes first. Finally we post the motto on the requester's talk page and viola! That person has a motto to live by on the wiki if they couldn't think of one on their own. We probably have the more experience than they do so that's why they would turn to us. Anyway, whaddaya think? Beluga boy how's my driving? 11:43, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Its just like what I mentioned in my comment, make it so that people can "claim" requests and make it known that a request is taken so that there won't be conflict over which editor started on a request first. Derild 49 21 ☼ 00:39, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Determine consensus here. Beluga boy how's my driving? 15:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I will consult User:Rock drum on how to make an order template, and then the person who is the best at templates will create it. Per Derlid's request, we will do a claim system, where you shall put a tick mark and Claimed by <nonwiki> Beluga boy how's my driving?</nonwiki> under the order. The person who claimed the motto shall create it and edit it before posting it on the bottom of the order and the customer's talk page. This shall continue as long as this shall go on. Consensus: should we do a consensus every Christmas to determine who the "team captain" will be? Please put thoughts below the outdent. Back on track, once we get to full, speed, the go-karts will do a little bumping and we'll have to put the brake pedal to the metal and fix it (meaning we will run into a few conflicts from time to time and temporarily put all orders on hold). So go on ahead, any changes are welcome. LAST-MINUTE SUGGESTION: Should we make a section on the WP:MOTD page about it? Beluga boy how's my driving? 22:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Consensus on "team captain:" Somewhere between weak support and support—Would help with primary coordination of shop, but we would have to post a message on their usertalk to keep them from acting like kings. Beluga boy how's my driving? 22:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
You can find all the links to the templates here. I'll get 'em set up on the page. Looks like it's gonna work out! Beluga boy how's my driving? 15:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Alrighty, let's see here... I've created an icon for it, changed the navbox, created a page for participants, requests, and the templates that they can put their motto in, created all of those templates, based on most of the ones on the main page, tweaked the templates for requesting that Belugaboy already had, and... And that's about it. Did I miss anything? Oh yes, I added a link to the motto shop in my welcome template. Anyone want to give me a pat on the back? :) ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
It would help if you told me what part you didn't understand... ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 01:37, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, what I was thinking was that we don't want to just leave them hanging around on that page; to keep it clean. So what I'm wanting to know is if we'll definitely have a request done within two days. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 03:31, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
By the way, what do you think of the motto that I came up with? It's the first one ever that I've made; I'm actually pretty surprised that I could do it. :) I'm going to have the archiving be four days; does that seem okay? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 03:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I have posted a blogpost about the motto shop here. If you don't want me to mention you, please tell me at my talk page immediately and I will remove your name. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:35, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't think that you need to be a "grown-up" to understand that; it's in quite a few comics that I have seen, and other places. As for not being from the states, you are probably right; the "Last Page" in Smithsonian magazine had something about that a while ago; it pretty much said that every country has it's own idioms, and pointed out how hard it was for this American to give a speech to a bunch of French people (That may be the first time ever that I've had two semicolons in one sentence). :) ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 05:33, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Should the motto be attributed to the person receiving it or the MS participant who made up the motto? Kayau Voting IS evil 03:58, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
...That sounds like a good idea on all counts. :) ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 05:05, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
This would not be necessary when we use a quote, I take it? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 05:50, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I think we should have an advertising message. I could use one to tell some Wikipedians about it. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Done advertising message; {{
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So, I've dropped a message at VPM, advertising our new changes and running discussions. Please expect a sudden growth of people coming to comment! :) ( ok, ok.) Kayau Voting IS evil 02:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey, so I added a little notice to the {{ Motd nav}} template (which Hi878 rudely removed); I thought the project might be interested in the Fundraising Campaign this year. Unlike last year, where 'the pros' designed the WP forever campaign (and everyone hated it), WMF has decided to work with the community. There are plenty of ideas to review and it would be nice to think of some new ones. Everything's on Meta at meta:Fundraising 2010. Cheers! ℳono 02:26, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi, can someone please explain to me how "Never be rude to an Arab" (today's motto) is clever/smart/funny/whatever because, from my point of view, it just seems stupid and a little bit racist. Jenks24 ( talk) 16:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Because I want to give them a barnstar! It's great! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, i've just created User:Benzband/Motd, a new motto template. It's basically copied from User:Rcsprinter123/Header and Template:Motd. benzband ( talk) 14:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
On January 22nd, an issue emerged on the use of lyrics as well as quotes for mottoes. Relevant discussions can be found at User_talk:Benzband/Archives/January_2012#MotD_CSD, User_talk:Pjoef#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Motto_of_the_day.2FJanuary_22.2C_2012, User talk:Simply south#Re:Viva la Vida and User_talk:Hi878/Archive_4#Speedy_deletion.
What should be done about this or is this a case of IAR? Simply south.... .. having large explosions for 5 years 16:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
As I stated before in other talk pages about this issue, I'm not going to approve mottoes with quotations —which are NOT in the public domain
[a] from lyrics (but also books, articles, interviews, movies, TV, and etcetera) created after 1923-12-31! But, if someone will do it, then I will take and assume all the responsibility and I MUST BE BLOCKED FROM EDITING INSTEAD OF HIM/HER/THEM/WHOEVER!
I don't know if Arbcom is the right place to discuss this, but the Wikimedia Foundation isn't either. There are many Wiki sites that belong to the Wikimedia Foundation and each of them has its own rules depending on the language and legislation. For example, the copyright policies and guidelines for the English Wikipedia are different from those within the German or Italian versions. MotD works on the English Wikipedia, and in this place we must discuss and find a solution.
Anyway, I checked all the English Wikipedia policies and guidelines about non-free content, plagiarism, quotations and fair use (please, see
this) I'm not a judge nor a lawyer or an attorney, but I have NOT found any violation of the above. In my humble opinion, the special point is stated in the last part of
Quotations#Copyrighted material and fair use:
“A special case is the use of quotations purely for interest or decorative purposes on user pages. By consensus such quotations are acceptable as long as they are limited in extent [...].
The motto of the day is shown on users' pages, consequently, and in my humble opinion, the use of small portions of copyrighted materials falls under this "special case" and qualifies as fair use.
Happy editing! –
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Should quotes and lyrics be used as mottoes in the project? Simply south.... .. having large explosions for 5 years 21:46, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Just wondering why the past 2 MOTD pages haven't been created? I would dive in but don't want to mess anything planned up :) ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 01:54, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
There was a discussion about reusing old mottos randomly just in case there is not a motto for a given day, but the proposal was rejected (or not implemented).
Here are the links to the archives:
2006;
2007;
2008;
2009;
2010;
2011. –
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Also don't forget for emergency nmottos, see Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Emergencies. Simply south.... .. facing oncoming traffic for over 5 years 18:47, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi guys, sorry I've not been around. Life kinda getting in the way. Less money for more work these days! sigh... • martyx• tk ct gy 14:19, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
How about unifying the MotD templates by replacing their core with a common template? Then the differences between each would be only through the formatting (and extra little bits) and also it would be easier to implement changes/fixes/emergency fallbacks (i noticed certain templates don't have a "fallback" capability of displaying the default Wikipedia: The free encyclopedia (or other) motto when the motd is a red link) :
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for the daily templates;{{
random motto}}
) for the random templates.Any ideas/comments/suggestions? benzband ( talk) 11:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
{{
motd}}
{{
motd plain}}
{{
motd big}}
{{
motd cquote}}
{{
motd banner}}
{{
User:Secret Saturdays/MottoBox}}
{{
User:Hi878/Random and Today's MotD}}
{{
User:Killeroid/MOTD}}
{{
Random Motto}}
{{random motto}}
to the following random motto templates: