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A rogue student group, Wikiprojectgroup2, just responded to my page patrolling and an editing fix (I put their lede in the proper place) with this gem of a comment. They also blanked out their talk page after I offered advice on inline citations INCLUDING WIKILOVE OF A GOAT. They also "erased" Shalor's request to contact their instructor. Clearly these kids are not Wiki Ed affiliated, because they'd have learned better, and clearly not fans of barnyard animals. I know you're on it (thanks Shalor!), but I wanted to highlight that they're not just rogue students, they're also disruptive and mean-spirited toward helpful editors. I can take it, but I know this doesn't usually end well. -- Owlsmcgee ( talk) 04:38, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
There is a class which is creating a large number of articles titled "Digital Divide in X". A lot of these seem to be WP:SYNTH or unnecessary content forks of articles that already exist about the technology and demographics of the country involved. I've PROD'ed The Digital Divide in Myanmar, but there's also Digital Divide in Bangladesh, Digital Divide in Germany, and others. Some may be OK to stand alone, but some of these clearly should be merged into other articles. As this affects multiple articles I'm posting here. – Train2104 ( t • c) 00:02, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
I have proposed this as a solution [1]. Please comment their with your thoughts. Thanks Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:28, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi all. For those interested, Wiki Education's Monthly Report for October 2017 is now available on Commons as a PDF, on Meta, or on our blog. Please let me know if you have questions. -- Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:47, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
We've having problems with multiple students Fc2361 and Corbin3 at Naegleria fowleri adding largely unsourced material or having trouble with WP:MEDRS and reinserting edits. Basically standard end of the semester edit warring. Corbin3's page says they are editing for a class under Drsusan1968 [2], but I'm not finding any evidence of a class dashboard. More eyes would be appreciated on this, especially any Wiki Ed folks to get in touch with the professor. Kingofaces43 ( talk) 17:27, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Subscribe to phab:T169676 for updates. — xaosflux Talk 05:27, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Xaosflux: Thanks for mentioning it here. Richard Nevell (WMUK) ( talk) 16:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Anassakata80 claims to be a college instructor; clearly s/he needs help. Chris Troutman ( talk) 18:43, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Please see the above SPI and let me know if the named accounts listed are students involved in some assignment or something similar. I believe this noticeboard involves projects that are located in the U.S. or Canada. These users are editing from Europe. If I should post this question somewhere else, please tell me where because every time I get involved in this area of Wikipedia I find it confusing. Thanks.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 22:05, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
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Tina Qin
Vanderbilt University
@ OhanaUnited, Neelix, Helaine (Wiki Ed), Pharos, and Pongr: @ Sleuthwood, Etlib, Biosthmors, and Kayz911: @ Jami (Wiki Ed), Rjensen, and Bluerasberry: -- VandyChem5600 ( talk) 18:27, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
As a followup to my previous thread on this subject, I just found these edits to Gabon on my watchlist, presumably made using Citation Hunt by a student in the course Southern Oregon University/Introduction to Clinical Psychology (Winter 2018), which added a Wikipedia mirror. Looking further at edits by other students at this course, I found this edit to Methodism, which added a reference to a book whose text is copied from Wikipedia, and this edit to Anglo-Nubian goat which cited a webpage that used Wikipedia as a source (i.e. another circular reference). These edits to Sixty Minutes were fine but ultimately unnecessary, and these edits to Washington County, Indiana were also reasonable. However, I still think an accuracy rate of two out of five is still very concerning (and I only checked edits that were far out of the purview of the course). Graham 87 16:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Pinging Ian (Wiki Ed), the content expert for this course. Graham 87 16:48, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Education Program:University of South Florida/ENL6236 18th C Women Authors (Fall 2015) was removed in August 2015, with the rationale "using new dashboard instead". There are three related talk pages that are orphaned and appear to have been missed during the transition:
Should these pages still be deleted ( CSD G8 may apply) or kept? If kept, should they be moved elsewhere? -- Black Falcon ( talk) 18:38, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Does anyone know if a group of editors have been assigned to Tomboy ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)? It appears that they have. The problem is that some of the content is problematic and that the editors are not engaging on the article talk page. See Talk:Tomboy#Latest edits. Permalink here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 20:12, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
While the North American website is fine ([ https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/), what happened to the website for the rest of the world - https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org ? I was using it last year, but now it's offline. Please don't tell me the project was cancelled, particularly as it had irreplaceable statistics and information on my courses (ex. what articles my students were editing). Closing it down (without so much as a warning to people using it to back up data, etc.) would be very irresponsible (through perhaps not that surprising, considering the diminishing support for non-North American educational projects...). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:40, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
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Sachinthonakkara ( talk · contribs)
Sachin T. Jose 01:14, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
(Two endorsements are needed for online ambassador approval.)
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Sakir Hossain Laskar ( talk · contribs)
program # In three sentences or less, summarize your prior experience with Wikimedia projects.
A user has opened a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Community review for new article topics of WikiEd classes? which you may wish to take part in. BethNaught ( talk) 19:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Will there be any education related presentations or workshops at Wikimania this year? · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:20, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quantum Tunneling in DNA has been opened on an article from Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Northeastern University/Advanced Writing in the Health Professions (Spring 2018). Looking at the articles listed on the class page, I expect several other pages will have problems. @ Ian (Wiki Ed) and Amyc29: for discussion. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 16:23, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Does this user belong to a known class? There isn't any welcoming or anything on their talk page. They created an article at Manuel l quezon speech (that I've moved to draft) which was a copy of Manuel L. Quezon with a bit of extra text in, at the bottom of which was "Gates EAPP Group 2". ansh 666 04:16, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Another course, it seems, making nonsense stubs, one of which ( Qgfxgbnjigfgjkjtfcgh, now deleted) stated "Network marketing course from Shanghai health medical college". Most pages have been deleted under G2 (test). Anyone know of this course?
Possible accounts:
The list keeps growing. Thanks, ansh 666 05:40, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Over the years many issues have been discovered from our engineering colleagues regarding the Education Extension, including security concerns. For this reason, and with a viable alternative platform available, we are starting the process to deprecate the extension and having it uninstalled where it has been activated. This includes this wiki Special:Courses.
This means that the following steps will be taken:
It should be noted that data of previous programs that ran on the Education Extension will remain safe, and we are working on documenting how to access that data.
Thus, we invite all Education Program Leaders (and users of the Education Extension) to take the online training for the dashboard so that you can benefit from this tool and make your work easier.
Did you know you can also use the P&E Dashboard at edit-a-thons, writing competitions, and other Wiki-based activities? More training courses for the dashboard are available here, so take a look!
Do you need to communicate with us about this?
-- On behalf of the Education Team 19:56, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi everyone! I'm part of the Education Team. It seems that part of the discussion is focused on the rights that education extension users had, something that i'm not totally familiar with. My first thought is that with the deprecation of the Education Extension, those rights would also be gone? (but it's not something we have discussed in the team). VMasrour (WMF) ( talk) 16:22, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Xaosflux has been depopulating user groups of the Education Extension userrights. Thanks for that. Here are some other tasks associated with deprecation. So far as I know there is no task list or assignments for anyone to do any of these things.
If I had to guess I would say that about 100 URLs with documentation need updating. Probably Wikimedia Foundation staff created about half of this documentation. I would lightly request that Wikimedia Foundation staff make an attempt to clean this up, although in a perfect world, I wish that staff funding for documentation management of this sort could go to a Wikimedia community chapter in the developing world to accomplish the same purpose and build out infrastructure. I took a look at some traffic and it seems like collectively this documentation gets 1000s of views a month, so for as long as this information is up, we have a liability to the users who are investing their time and interest in a deprecated software system. I would like to help but the scale of this administrative project is beyond the labor I have to offer. If anyone has an idea for addressing this then speak up. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Education's monthly report for November 2017 is now available as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog. Let me know if you have any questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 18:16, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
I note today the creation or expansion of a relatively large number of user pages all noting their attendance at Ashesi University College. [Notes 1] I suspect a new class has started wherein the professor is asking the students to edit Wikipedia. Some of the edits have been problematic (users creating user pages in article space (see User talk:Nana Boadiwaa for example)), and more problematic edits may be coming. I recommend that someone attempt to identify and contact the teacher to nip further problems in the bud. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 12:49, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
For those interested, find our December 2017 monthly report on Commons, on-wiki, and on our blog. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
User_talk:Dlohcierekim#Revert_deleted_user_page per this discussion. User:Mailegu kontratu created an essay in Dutch(?) that I deleted per U5. User:Theklan wants it restored to her sandbox. I'm not sanguine about educators not participating via Wikipedia Education and using Wikipedia is a webhost.-- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 19:55, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
See Draft:The Fog (Mad Men), this comment, and the edit summary here. Probably also responsible for Six Month Leave given similar structure, and possibly also Three Sundays on the same general topic. ansh 666 18:32, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Some editors here may be interested in reviewing how a case of a new student editor being blocked is being handled: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Student_unfairly_blocked,_needs_an_unblock. (Hint: I am not impressed, IMHO it's a major WP:BITE and I am really disappointed how many people are in favor of BITING newbies...). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:32, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Could someone take a look at this discussion? Thanks! and sorry to bug you all so much over small things... ansh 666 19:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I've just had a helpee come in on Wikipedia-en-help on IRC, and he tells me that he's working on a class project that isn't coordinating with SUP. Quoth him, "It's czech univercity in prague, BIE-EHD subject and the teacher is Mr. Evan" [sic]. Is there any way to both verify this is indeed legitimate and maybe reach out to them or the students? — Jeremy v^_^v Bori! 10:06, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
User:Dawson - jennifer tells me that she is required to create a particular article for a class, but her draft is redundant to End-of-life care. Can someone with more experience with the education program guide her? Thanks. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:50, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Several of the page creations from Santa Clara's "Literacy and Social Justice" class ( [3]) are broadly problematic. @ Shalor (Wiki Ed): any thoughts? power~enwiki ( π, ν) 03:58, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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Oishik0412 ( talk · contribs)
@ Xaosflux:, Which large banner? Cheers · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 11:23, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
No new applications for group memberships (Course coordinators, Course campus volunteers, Course instructors, Course online volunteers, Campus ambassadors) should be submitted. The "courses" module is being removed (phab:T125618) along with the user groups associated with it. Thank you.
I just came across Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2018. It seems to be operating outside of the system. Also, they should not be calling themselves a WikiProject, because that's not what they are. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 18:12, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Emily1567956 came onto #wikipedia-en-help and explained that the draft she was writing is for a business course at a university. The draft is Draft:Tom Howley Kitchens. While I do not know who the rest of the students are, judging by the somewhat promotional tone of the draft, other students may be writing drafts of similar quality, likely misguided by an instructor who is not too familiar with how Wikipedia works. @ Emily1567956: You are welcome to comment on this discussion. Would you mind helping us contact your instructor and bringing them to this page? Thanks. Darylgolden( talk) Ping when replying 11:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Keeps creating what we keep deleting. They posted to Teahouse claiming school project.-- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 10:09, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Education's Monthly Report for January 2018 is available as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog for those interested. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
For those interested, here are the links to Wiki Education's Monthly Report for February of this year as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:05, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Education's Monthly Report for March 2018 is available as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog. Please let me know if you have any questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm the Wikipedian-in-Residence at Amon Carter Museum of American Art and I've been asked to teach what until yesterday I thought was going to be a simple how-to-edit-Wikipedia session for some local high school and middle school teachers a week from today. Yesterday, I learned that the organizers (who are unfamiliar, themselves, with Wikipedia) also want to give them information on how to use Wikipedia as a teaching resource and are looking to me to at least link them into how-to. I looked at WP:WEP but when I click through on it, it refers to things which have been deprecated (course modules, instructor user right), which makes me think that program is dead. But on the other hand, some of the recent previous posts here seem to suggest that there may still be an "official" way for teachers to go about this. I found https://wikiedu.org/teach-with-wikipedia/, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Education_Foundation, and https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Countries/United_States, but they all seem focused on college-level courses and I can't figure out how and if they coordinate with programs here on en-Wikipedia. Or if any such programs still exist here... Can someone tell me what's going on or provide a starting point. I'm lost. Regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 15:40, 12 July 2018 (UTC) PS: Pinging a couple of folks I hope may help (just in case no one is still watching this noticeboard): @ Cassidy (Wiki Ed) and Shalor (Wiki Ed)
Hello. For those interested, you can read about Wiki Education's activities during the month of April 2018 on Commons, on-wiki, and on our blog. Please let me know if you have questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 18:29, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Would you be able to close my secondary account which is linked to my primary account (Goodtiming8871) on my user page? I was unable to find the request page for closing the old secondary account on Wikipedia. I created the new secondary account today which is Goodtiming1788 as per the kind recommendation by another user in Wikipedia. I created the new subsidiary account: Goodtiming1788 as it is a comparable name to my primary account Goodtiming8871 Goodtiming8871 ( talk) 00:55, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
If you're curious about Wiki Education's activities during May, check out our report on Commons, on-wiki, or on our blog. Let me know if you have questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:02, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
For those interested in Wiki Education's activities during June 2018, please find our Monthly Report on Commons, on-wiki, or on our blog. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:48, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I am seeking support with signatures at the bottom of this page, or alternatively criticism or any comments on the talk page.
Hello, I did a research project about students in a medical program doing English Wikipedia editing in the Wikipedia education program. I have a research paper about this which I have submitted to a journal.
Open access publication fees are $3000, which is typical. The Wikimedia Foundation "rapid grants" program offers $2000 of support for certain small projects. I am requesting this $2000 in grant funding from the WMF to help cover the open access publishing fee. I have the rest.
Beyond my asking for this I also encourage other people doing academic publishing, especially at the intersection of Wikimedia projects and medicine, to publish in traditional journals and seek WMF support to pay the open access fee.
Anyone requesting funds from the WMF does so publicly and has to solicit community comments. If anyone has any comments - in support or in criticism - whatever you have to say is useful and develops the conversation about publishing Wikimedia activities in academic journals. I appreciate anyone who can either sign their wiki user name in support of the funding on the front page, or anyone who can post any criticism to the talk page about my proposal, the broader circumstances of WMF funding, or of wiki engagement in this publishing. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
It looks like Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Middle/Studies in Culture (Fall 2018) is a duplicate of Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Middle Georgia State University/Studies in Culture (Fall 2018) (and tidied up accordingly) based on the fact that @Grlucas is the tutor, but given the scary notices about editing such pages I don't know what the procedure is for such a deduplication? Le Deluge ( talk) 08:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Education is hiring an experienced Wikipedian for a part-time (20 hours/week) position. The focus of this position is to help new editors (students and other academics) learn to edit Wikipedia. The main focus of the position is monitoring and tracking contributions by Wiki Education program participants, answering questions, and providing feedback. We're looking for a friendly, helpful editor who likes to focus on article content, but also with a deep knowledge of policies and guidelines and the ability to explain them in simple, concise ways to new editors. They will be the third member of a team of expert Wikipedians, joining Ian (Wiki Ed) and Shalor (Wiki Ed). This is a part-time, U.S. based, remote or San Francisco based position.
See our Careers page for more information. Ian (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 20:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I may be interested, if I qualify and if I can start in September. I'm in the USA. Your thoughts? Cheers, Rowan Forest ( talk) 01:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Sorry to ask such a crass question, but what's the compensation like? Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 15:16, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Me again - is there a deadline for submissions? I'm looking at a deadline for the 16th, close of your business hours. – Vami _IV✠ 03:29, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
For those who are interested, Wiki Education has published their report of activities for the month of July 2018. You can access that report as a PDF, on wiki, or on our blog. Please let me know if you have questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
There have been a bunch of new editors on pages created by Leofstan. For example, Burley High School (Charlottesville, Virginia) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Is this an organized UVA event? power~enwiki ( π, ν) 20:21, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi @ Power~enwiki:! Yes, this is an organized UVA event. I am a special collections librarian at UVA and I created a number of new pages about area schools in the last few weeks in prepartation for this project, where we are uploading facts to Wikipedia from sources that are held only here at UVA Library. We just concluded our event, which you can learn about here: Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Virginia/Surfacing Black Life in Charlottesville August 2018. Leofstan ( talk) 20:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi everyone! Students in my music research class will be adding content to c-class music articles starting today and over the next week. Students are being asked to update citations and enhance content that is missing based on their assessment or talk page discussions. We're going to finalize our course rubric in class tonight; our assignment is a little slight for the dashboard as it's only happening over 2 weeks, so I'm posting info here! Pages we are working on include:
-- Deloebrenti ( talk) 19:15, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Our Monthly Report for August is available as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog. Please reach out if you have any questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:34, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Need a Course Page for a Student project, starting this week
Hi, I am running a student wikipage creation project at LIUC, Castellanza, Italy. This is the fifth year we've run this, and in the past it has resulted in some excellent new pages (not without some issues!). 3 years ago I had an educational course page but I've had no response to set up one in the past 2 years. I applied for one on this noticeboard and flagged the request on the student draft talk pages, but never heard back about it. Is there anything anyone can do to help me here, so I can just flag the draft pages up as an educational project on the respective Talk pages? Many thanks! Limelightangel ( talk) 11:11, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I know there's nothing we can do to change the minds of some professors, but is there more that we could/should do above and beyond my comment here about a user "poaching a student's edits"? Primefac ( talk) 14:34, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Second, I never accused poor JC7V7DC5768 of poaching anything; again, they're not in my class, haha. If they were, they'd have gotten an A for their midterm progress report. And the student is not getting penalized for anything, of course--but they will have to look elsewhere to make significant edits. That's all I was saying. No, the moment we get complicated with detailed rubrics and all that, that is the day this is no longer fun to do. It's already hard enough because, as you can see, half the class is pretty much sitting on their hands...
JC7V7DC5768, are you still reading this? I hope you understood my point. You're a fine editor, and that quick check to see what's going on (you already took the time to look into it) will make you an even finer editor, and will bring out the collaborative aspect of the project. Thanks, Drmies ( talk) 21:19, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Drmies Thank you for the feedback. You are a fine editor too. Keep up the good work. JC7V -constructive zone 21:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Penn_State/Chemical_Game_Theory_(Fall_2018)
From a quick glance, most of the references to the term "Chemical Game Theory" are in papers by Darrel Velegol. Now Darrel Velegol
Velegol (
talk ·
contribs) is running a class with The goal of this course is that our class team will publish a page on Wikipedia on Chemical Game Theory.
This seems far out of line with Wikipedia policies and educational program policies; instructors should not be running classes to promote their own pet theories which have not seen wider adoption.
power~enwiki (
π,
ν) 02:56, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Caught this from Brainspotting being created yet again.
Seems to be a class?
pings
-- Jytdog ( talk) 01:51, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
pages created so far:
some drafts
-- Jytdog ( talk) 14:38, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
@ Fransplace:: Please instruct students to stop requesting Peer Review; they should offer peer feedback instead on the talk page of the relevant article. Many of the peer review requests are not filled out correctly. The ones that are, and continue on October 23 to be added to the Peer Review page, are overwhelming the system and will not receive feedback. They also make it likely that other editors who have submitted valid peer review requests will not be noticed.
I spent half an hour last night tagging malformed peer review requests from your students, and then an administrator would have spent another 10+ minutes responding to what I did. Now, today, I would have to do more of it for a fresh batch of malformed requests. I am not going to clean up for you any more. Will you clean up? You should look through the WP:PR page for any red-linked articles—e.g. "Popz", "Aerialtronics"—this means the article does not exist. You may request deletion of those by adding " {{csd|Malformed peer review request; not in Article space}} " to the top of each page.
Peer review policy is that only articles in Article space may be submitted. (This is a well-hidden point at Wikipedia:Peer review/Request removal policy, "Removal", Item 1.) This means that Draft: and User: pages cannot be submitted, but many students are. Others are having their articles moved back to Draft: because they are not adequate for Wikipedia (e.g. [5]), which both breaks the peer review page and makes the text ineligible for peer review in any case.
The students are also making articles that are duplicates of each other: Algeria and poverty, Poverty in Algeria, and Vietnamese Confucianism, Confucianism in Vietnam, are two I've noticed.
This has been quite disruptive. I haven't watched the education noticeboard for years, but it reminds me of the constant baby-sitting and cleaning up that was required some years ago because students were sent unprepared to Wikipedia, or were asked to do things which were not appropriate. Outriggr ( talk) 01:01, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you everyone and apologies for clogging your system. Students were instructed to add the template to pages that were already in the mainspace but clearly some didn't follow instructions. We weren't aware so many would enrol in the unit and have collected feedback from our local chapter to make sure we don't have these issues next time. The students who have breached copyright/plagiarised are being disciplined through our institutional system and we apologise for that too. Thank you again for your constructive feedback and know that we're working bit by bit on getting students to resolve the issues with their work. Fransplace 05:52, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Does anyone know about the classes being run by this user? User:Tibouchina I just ran into some questions involving the work of this user's class at WP:FTN, and I don't see if any connection has been made to this project. Perhaps someone could reach out and offer help?
jps ( talk) 02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Browsing WP:Peer review, I found that Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Brooklyn_College,_CUNY/THEA_7214X_-_Global_Theater_History_and_Theory_I_(Fall_2018) is another source of student peer reviews. The direction is "Officially 'nominate' your article for peer review on Wikipedia, so that your classmates (and possibly others) can give you feedback on your work. Instructions are here." An example from that class is Wikipedia:Peer review/The Jew of Malta/archive1.
It seems clear that something has shifted in the practices that are recommended for educational assignments recently. Formerly, I've seen many "peer review" assignments posted to talk pages of articles. That method scales, even if it leaves those talk-pages rather lacking in context. Creating dozens or hundreds of peer review requests at WP:PR does not scale. Of all the paid people involved here, can someone fix it? Outriggr ( talk) 02:07, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
You can find a report of Wiki Education's activities for September 2018 on Commons, meta, or our blog. Please let me know if you have any questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:25, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I found a stray student editor who has never been greeted by a Wiki Ed liaison! I'm trying to connect them with the right people so that they can be successful, since I worry that they might be in the painful situation of having unrealistic expectations from their instructor. I left a note Shalor's talk page, since they're the only Wiki Ed liaison that I've ever encountered. You can see that message here: User_talk:Shalor_(Wiki_Ed)#I_found_a_stray_student_editor_(they've_never_been_greeted_by_a_Wiki_Ed_person_etc.). From there you'll see a link to their initial call for help on the tea house which is where they've indicated that their work is for a class assignment.
Thank you for the important work that you do. I want Wikipedia to be accessible to everyone who wants to contribute and I'd hate to see course expectations that contradict Wikipedia's expectations frustrate a new student editor out of their success. Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, ( message me) 06:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Two essays on whether communism is dead or alive are in draft space and have been nominated for deletion as essays: Draft:Is Communism Dead? and Draft:Is Communism Dead or Alive. Both of them use the same sources, Danziger and Priestland. This is strongly suggestive of a class project. The two essays will probably be deleted, but if this is a class assignment, the instructor should be given better advice. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Have proposed HERE.
In my opinion this will be a significant help for the increasing student loads we are seeing. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 18:08, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Something about Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions ought to be included in the Wiki Ed training for professors teaching courses in an area subject to sanctions.
I assume that Wiki Ed Content Experts are familiar with WP:AC/DS and when to apply it. But imho, new Wiki Ed professors should learn something about this in whatever training they take when onboarding to Wiki Ed. If the course they are teaching, as often seems to be the case, touches on one of the areas that ArbCom has designated as subject to Discretionary Sanctions (such as, anything related to gender, U.S. politics, the Balkans, and a dozen other subject areas), then the professor should be given a good deal more training about Sanctions, and what it implies for the students in their course. In brief, one thing it means is that it will be harder for their students to make sucessful edits to articles without being reverted, and secondly, that they will run a greater risk of being blocked if they edit war.
In addition, as soon as students in their class have declared an intention to edit on a Wikipedia article that happens to be in a topic area subject to disretionary sanctions, somebody should add the standard {{
Ds/alert}} notice on their talk page. If I were head of Wiki Ed, I would say that this would be the responsibility of the professor, that as part of whatever wiki-related training they give to their students in class, that they introduce the topic of ArbCom sanctions to their students if the course topic is in one of the D/S areas. Further, once assignments are handed out to their students, the professor should be responsible for adding the appropriate {{
Ds/alert}} template to the talk page of every one of their students with an assignment to an article that is subject to sanctions. Content experts, or somebody at Wiki Ed, should ensure that the professors place this alert template on user Talk pages with the correct
topic code (for example, |pa
or |gg
for gender-related assignments; see
list of codes), and should follow up and place the alert themselves, if the professor does not.
Mathglot (
talk) 20:21, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
The Template {{ Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment}} is used in Talk page headers to create a horizontal box notifying viewers that the article is or was the subject of a Wiki Edu course assignment. This is useful information for editors, and I'm glad to have it. OTOH, it's a bit annoying, when these notices are stacked up, with no indication if they're all ten years old, all current, or what. For example, look at this version of Talk:Genderqueer. If you look at the last three boxes in the Talk page header on that page right above the ToC, and containing mortarboard icons on the left, you'll see what the "Assignment" advice box usually looks like. There are three of them there, but no indication of date.
I have modified that page to add the course dates ("Fall 2016", and so on), and so now in this version, the course dates are included. This is much more useful, now.
I went to the Template page itself, with a view to adding a new "date" parameter to the template for general use, and found the documentation there to be very sparse. It seems that the template writers have included a generous number of parameters for use in the code of the template, but unfortunately, nobody knows how to use the template properly, because it is nearly entirely undocumented.
It turns out that there are 18 parameters available, 12
named parameters and 6 'extra'
numbered params. It turns out one of the existing params, the "date" param, fulfills the function I wanted to add with a new "date" param. Wiki Ed training should instruct students to add at least the |term=
param when using the template. So, instead of whatever they are doing now, they might code on the article talk page:
{{ dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment |course= Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/University_of_Slobovia/Sociology_171_Gender_Studies |assignments=[[User:UserName123]], [[User:OtherUser456]] |term=Fall 2018}}
and that would already be a big improvement, even without taking advantage of any of the other dozen or so parameters.
In addition, the doc page for the template should be expanded to document all of the parameters. I've added the description of the term param to the doc page as a model of how to do this. Mathglot ( talk) 20:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC) updated to link named/numbered params, by Mathglot ( talk) 01:25, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
term
to {{CURRENTYEAR}}
here.
Mathglot (
talk) 05:50, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
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A rogue student group, Wikiprojectgroup2, just responded to my page patrolling and an editing fix (I put their lede in the proper place) with this gem of a comment. They also blanked out their talk page after I offered advice on inline citations INCLUDING WIKILOVE OF A GOAT. They also "erased" Shalor's request to contact their instructor. Clearly these kids are not Wiki Ed affiliated, because they'd have learned better, and clearly not fans of barnyard animals. I know you're on it (thanks Shalor!), but I wanted to highlight that they're not just rogue students, they're also disruptive and mean-spirited toward helpful editors. I can take it, but I know this doesn't usually end well. -- Owlsmcgee ( talk) 04:38, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
There is a class which is creating a large number of articles titled "Digital Divide in X". A lot of these seem to be WP:SYNTH or unnecessary content forks of articles that already exist about the technology and demographics of the country involved. I've PROD'ed The Digital Divide in Myanmar, but there's also Digital Divide in Bangladesh, Digital Divide in Germany, and others. Some may be OK to stand alone, but some of these clearly should be merged into other articles. As this affects multiple articles I'm posting here. – Train2104 ( t • c) 00:02, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
I have proposed this as a solution [1]. Please comment their with your thoughts. Thanks Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:28, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi all. For those interested, Wiki Education's Monthly Report for October 2017 is now available on Commons as a PDF, on Meta, or on our blog. Please let me know if you have questions. -- Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:47, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
We've having problems with multiple students Fc2361 and Corbin3 at Naegleria fowleri adding largely unsourced material or having trouble with WP:MEDRS and reinserting edits. Basically standard end of the semester edit warring. Corbin3's page says they are editing for a class under Drsusan1968 [2], but I'm not finding any evidence of a class dashboard. More eyes would be appreciated on this, especially any Wiki Ed folks to get in touch with the professor. Kingofaces43 ( talk) 17:27, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Subscribe to phab:T169676 for updates. — xaosflux Talk 05:27, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Xaosflux: Thanks for mentioning it here. Richard Nevell (WMUK) ( talk) 16:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Anassakata80 claims to be a college instructor; clearly s/he needs help. Chris Troutman ( talk) 18:43, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Please see the above SPI and let me know if the named accounts listed are students involved in some assignment or something similar. I believe this noticeboard involves projects that are located in the U.S. or Canada. These users are editing from Europe. If I should post this question somewhere else, please tell me where because every time I get involved in this area of Wikipedia I find it confusing. Thanks.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 22:05, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
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Tina Qin
Vanderbilt University
@ OhanaUnited, Neelix, Helaine (Wiki Ed), Pharos, and Pongr: @ Sleuthwood, Etlib, Biosthmors, and Kayz911: @ Jami (Wiki Ed), Rjensen, and Bluerasberry: -- VandyChem5600 ( talk) 18:27, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
As a followup to my previous thread on this subject, I just found these edits to Gabon on my watchlist, presumably made using Citation Hunt by a student in the course Southern Oregon University/Introduction to Clinical Psychology (Winter 2018), which added a Wikipedia mirror. Looking further at edits by other students at this course, I found this edit to Methodism, which added a reference to a book whose text is copied from Wikipedia, and this edit to Anglo-Nubian goat which cited a webpage that used Wikipedia as a source (i.e. another circular reference). These edits to Sixty Minutes were fine but ultimately unnecessary, and these edits to Washington County, Indiana were also reasonable. However, I still think an accuracy rate of two out of five is still very concerning (and I only checked edits that were far out of the purview of the course). Graham 87 16:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Pinging Ian (Wiki Ed), the content expert for this course. Graham 87 16:48, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Education Program:University of South Florida/ENL6236 18th C Women Authors (Fall 2015) was removed in August 2015, with the rationale "using new dashboard instead". There are three related talk pages that are orphaned and appear to have been missed during the transition:
Should these pages still be deleted ( CSD G8 may apply) or kept? If kept, should they be moved elsewhere? -- Black Falcon ( talk) 18:38, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Does anyone know if a group of editors have been assigned to Tomboy ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)? It appears that they have. The problem is that some of the content is problematic and that the editors are not engaging on the article talk page. See Talk:Tomboy#Latest edits. Permalink here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 20:12, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
While the North American website is fine ([ https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/), what happened to the website for the rest of the world - https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org ? I was using it last year, but now it's offline. Please don't tell me the project was cancelled, particularly as it had irreplaceable statistics and information on my courses (ex. what articles my students were editing). Closing it down (without so much as a warning to people using it to back up data, etc.) would be very irresponsible (through perhaps not that surprising, considering the diminishing support for non-North American educational projects...). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:40, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
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Sachinthonakkara ( talk · contribs)
Sachin T. Jose 01:14, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
(Two endorsements are needed for online ambassador approval.)
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Sakir Hossain Laskar ( talk · contribs)
program # In three sentences or less, summarize your prior experience with Wikimedia projects.
A user has opened a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Community review for new article topics of WikiEd classes? which you may wish to take part in. BethNaught ( talk) 19:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Will there be any education related presentations or workshops at Wikimania this year? · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:20, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quantum Tunneling in DNA has been opened on an article from Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Northeastern University/Advanced Writing in the Health Professions (Spring 2018). Looking at the articles listed on the class page, I expect several other pages will have problems. @ Ian (Wiki Ed) and Amyc29: for discussion. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 16:23, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Does this user belong to a known class? There isn't any welcoming or anything on their talk page. They created an article at Manuel l quezon speech (that I've moved to draft) which was a copy of Manuel L. Quezon with a bit of extra text in, at the bottom of which was "Gates EAPP Group 2". ansh 666 04:16, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Another course, it seems, making nonsense stubs, one of which ( Qgfxgbnjigfgjkjtfcgh, now deleted) stated "Network marketing course from Shanghai health medical college". Most pages have been deleted under G2 (test). Anyone know of this course?
Possible accounts:
The list keeps growing. Thanks, ansh 666 05:40, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Over the years many issues have been discovered from our engineering colleagues regarding the Education Extension, including security concerns. For this reason, and with a viable alternative platform available, we are starting the process to deprecate the extension and having it uninstalled where it has been activated. This includes this wiki Special:Courses.
This means that the following steps will be taken:
It should be noted that data of previous programs that ran on the Education Extension will remain safe, and we are working on documenting how to access that data.
Thus, we invite all Education Program Leaders (and users of the Education Extension) to take the online training for the dashboard so that you can benefit from this tool and make your work easier.
Did you know you can also use the P&E Dashboard at edit-a-thons, writing competitions, and other Wiki-based activities? More training courses for the dashboard are available here, so take a look!
Do you need to communicate with us about this?
-- On behalf of the Education Team 19:56, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi everyone! I'm part of the Education Team. It seems that part of the discussion is focused on the rights that education extension users had, something that i'm not totally familiar with. My first thought is that with the deprecation of the Education Extension, those rights would also be gone? (but it's not something we have discussed in the team). VMasrour (WMF) ( talk) 16:22, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Xaosflux has been depopulating user groups of the Education Extension userrights. Thanks for that. Here are some other tasks associated with deprecation. So far as I know there is no task list or assignments for anyone to do any of these things.
If I had to guess I would say that about 100 URLs with documentation need updating. Probably Wikimedia Foundation staff created about half of this documentation. I would lightly request that Wikimedia Foundation staff make an attempt to clean this up, although in a perfect world, I wish that staff funding for documentation management of this sort could go to a Wikimedia community chapter in the developing world to accomplish the same purpose and build out infrastructure. I took a look at some traffic and it seems like collectively this documentation gets 1000s of views a month, so for as long as this information is up, we have a liability to the users who are investing their time and interest in a deprecated software system. I would like to help but the scale of this administrative project is beyond the labor I have to offer. If anyone has an idea for addressing this then speak up. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Education's monthly report for November 2017 is now available as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog. Let me know if you have any questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 18:16, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
I note today the creation or expansion of a relatively large number of user pages all noting their attendance at Ashesi University College. [Notes 1] I suspect a new class has started wherein the professor is asking the students to edit Wikipedia. Some of the edits have been problematic (users creating user pages in article space (see User talk:Nana Boadiwaa for example)), and more problematic edits may be coming. I recommend that someone attempt to identify and contact the teacher to nip further problems in the bud. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 12:49, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
For those interested, find our December 2017 monthly report on Commons, on-wiki, and on our blog. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
User_talk:Dlohcierekim#Revert_deleted_user_page per this discussion. User:Mailegu kontratu created an essay in Dutch(?) that I deleted per U5. User:Theklan wants it restored to her sandbox. I'm not sanguine about educators not participating via Wikipedia Education and using Wikipedia is a webhost.-- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 19:55, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
See Draft:The Fog (Mad Men), this comment, and the edit summary here. Probably also responsible for Six Month Leave given similar structure, and possibly also Three Sundays on the same general topic. ansh 666 18:32, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Some editors here may be interested in reviewing how a case of a new student editor being blocked is being handled: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Student_unfairly_blocked,_needs_an_unblock. (Hint: I am not impressed, IMHO it's a major WP:BITE and I am really disappointed how many people are in favor of BITING newbies...). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:32, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Could someone take a look at this discussion? Thanks! and sorry to bug you all so much over small things... ansh 666 19:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I've just had a helpee come in on Wikipedia-en-help on IRC, and he tells me that he's working on a class project that isn't coordinating with SUP. Quoth him, "It's czech univercity in prague, BIE-EHD subject and the teacher is Mr. Evan" [sic]. Is there any way to both verify this is indeed legitimate and maybe reach out to them or the students? — Jeremy v^_^v Bori! 10:06, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
User:Dawson - jennifer tells me that she is required to create a particular article for a class, but her draft is redundant to End-of-life care. Can someone with more experience with the education program guide her? Thanks. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:50, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Several of the page creations from Santa Clara's "Literacy and Social Justice" class ( [3]) are broadly problematic. @ Shalor (Wiki Ed): any thoughts? power~enwiki ( π, ν) 03:58, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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Oishik0412 ( talk · contribs)
@ Xaosflux:, Which large banner? Cheers · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 11:23, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
No new applications for group memberships (Course coordinators, Course campus volunteers, Course instructors, Course online volunteers, Campus ambassadors) should be submitted. The "courses" module is being removed (phab:T125618) along with the user groups associated with it. Thank you.
I just came across Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2018. It seems to be operating outside of the system. Also, they should not be calling themselves a WikiProject, because that's not what they are. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 18:12, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Emily1567956 came onto #wikipedia-en-help and explained that the draft she was writing is for a business course at a university. The draft is Draft:Tom Howley Kitchens. While I do not know who the rest of the students are, judging by the somewhat promotional tone of the draft, other students may be writing drafts of similar quality, likely misguided by an instructor who is not too familiar with how Wikipedia works. @ Emily1567956: You are welcome to comment on this discussion. Would you mind helping us contact your instructor and bringing them to this page? Thanks. Darylgolden( talk) Ping when replying 11:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Keeps creating what we keep deleting. They posted to Teahouse claiming school project.-- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 10:09, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Education's Monthly Report for January 2018 is available as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog for those interested. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
For those interested, here are the links to Wiki Education's Monthly Report for February of this year as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:05, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Education's Monthly Report for March 2018 is available as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog. Please let me know if you have any questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm the Wikipedian-in-Residence at Amon Carter Museum of American Art and I've been asked to teach what until yesterday I thought was going to be a simple how-to-edit-Wikipedia session for some local high school and middle school teachers a week from today. Yesterday, I learned that the organizers (who are unfamiliar, themselves, with Wikipedia) also want to give them information on how to use Wikipedia as a teaching resource and are looking to me to at least link them into how-to. I looked at WP:WEP but when I click through on it, it refers to things which have been deprecated (course modules, instructor user right), which makes me think that program is dead. But on the other hand, some of the recent previous posts here seem to suggest that there may still be an "official" way for teachers to go about this. I found https://wikiedu.org/teach-with-wikipedia/, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Education_Foundation, and https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Countries/United_States, but they all seem focused on college-level courses and I can't figure out how and if they coordinate with programs here on en-Wikipedia. Or if any such programs still exist here... Can someone tell me what's going on or provide a starting point. I'm lost. Regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 15:40, 12 July 2018 (UTC) PS: Pinging a couple of folks I hope may help (just in case no one is still watching this noticeboard): @ Cassidy (Wiki Ed) and Shalor (Wiki Ed)
Hello. For those interested, you can read about Wiki Education's activities during the month of April 2018 on Commons, on-wiki, and on our blog. Please let me know if you have questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 18:29, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Would you be able to close my secondary account which is linked to my primary account (Goodtiming8871) on my user page? I was unable to find the request page for closing the old secondary account on Wikipedia. I created the new secondary account today which is Goodtiming1788 as per the kind recommendation by another user in Wikipedia. I created the new subsidiary account: Goodtiming1788 as it is a comparable name to my primary account Goodtiming8871 Goodtiming8871 ( talk) 00:55, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
If you're curious about Wiki Education's activities during May, check out our report on Commons, on-wiki, or on our blog. Let me know if you have questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:02, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
For those interested in Wiki Education's activities during June 2018, please find our Monthly Report on Commons, on-wiki, or on our blog. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:48, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I am seeking support with signatures at the bottom of this page, or alternatively criticism or any comments on the talk page.
Hello, I did a research project about students in a medical program doing English Wikipedia editing in the Wikipedia education program. I have a research paper about this which I have submitted to a journal.
Open access publication fees are $3000, which is typical. The Wikimedia Foundation "rapid grants" program offers $2000 of support for certain small projects. I am requesting this $2000 in grant funding from the WMF to help cover the open access publishing fee. I have the rest.
Beyond my asking for this I also encourage other people doing academic publishing, especially at the intersection of Wikimedia projects and medicine, to publish in traditional journals and seek WMF support to pay the open access fee.
Anyone requesting funds from the WMF does so publicly and has to solicit community comments. If anyone has any comments - in support or in criticism - whatever you have to say is useful and develops the conversation about publishing Wikimedia activities in academic journals. I appreciate anyone who can either sign their wiki user name in support of the funding on the front page, or anyone who can post any criticism to the talk page about my proposal, the broader circumstances of WMF funding, or of wiki engagement in this publishing. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
It looks like Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Middle/Studies in Culture (Fall 2018) is a duplicate of Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Middle Georgia State University/Studies in Culture (Fall 2018) (and tidied up accordingly) based on the fact that @Grlucas is the tutor, but given the scary notices about editing such pages I don't know what the procedure is for such a deduplication? Le Deluge ( talk) 08:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Education is hiring an experienced Wikipedian for a part-time (20 hours/week) position. The focus of this position is to help new editors (students and other academics) learn to edit Wikipedia. The main focus of the position is monitoring and tracking contributions by Wiki Education program participants, answering questions, and providing feedback. We're looking for a friendly, helpful editor who likes to focus on article content, but also with a deep knowledge of policies and guidelines and the ability to explain them in simple, concise ways to new editors. They will be the third member of a team of expert Wikipedians, joining Ian (Wiki Ed) and Shalor (Wiki Ed). This is a part-time, U.S. based, remote or San Francisco based position.
See our Careers page for more information. Ian (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 20:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I may be interested, if I qualify and if I can start in September. I'm in the USA. Your thoughts? Cheers, Rowan Forest ( talk) 01:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Sorry to ask such a crass question, but what's the compensation like? Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 15:16, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Me again - is there a deadline for submissions? I'm looking at a deadline for the 16th, close of your business hours. – Vami _IV✠ 03:29, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
For those who are interested, Wiki Education has published their report of activities for the month of July 2018. You can access that report as a PDF, on wiki, or on our blog. Please let me know if you have questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
There have been a bunch of new editors on pages created by Leofstan. For example, Burley High School (Charlottesville, Virginia) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Is this an organized UVA event? power~enwiki ( π, ν) 20:21, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi @ Power~enwiki:! Yes, this is an organized UVA event. I am a special collections librarian at UVA and I created a number of new pages about area schools in the last few weeks in prepartation for this project, where we are uploading facts to Wikipedia from sources that are held only here at UVA Library. We just concluded our event, which you can learn about here: Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Virginia/Surfacing Black Life in Charlottesville August 2018. Leofstan ( talk) 20:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi everyone! Students in my music research class will be adding content to c-class music articles starting today and over the next week. Students are being asked to update citations and enhance content that is missing based on their assessment or talk page discussions. We're going to finalize our course rubric in class tonight; our assignment is a little slight for the dashboard as it's only happening over 2 weeks, so I'm posting info here! Pages we are working on include:
-- Deloebrenti ( talk) 19:15, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Our Monthly Report for August is available as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog. Please reach out if you have any questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:34, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Need a Course Page for a Student project, starting this week
Hi, I am running a student wikipage creation project at LIUC, Castellanza, Italy. This is the fifth year we've run this, and in the past it has resulted in some excellent new pages (not without some issues!). 3 years ago I had an educational course page but I've had no response to set up one in the past 2 years. I applied for one on this noticeboard and flagged the request on the student draft talk pages, but never heard back about it. Is there anything anyone can do to help me here, so I can just flag the draft pages up as an educational project on the respective Talk pages? Many thanks! Limelightangel ( talk) 11:11, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I know there's nothing we can do to change the minds of some professors, but is there more that we could/should do above and beyond my comment here about a user "poaching a student's edits"? Primefac ( talk) 14:34, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Second, I never accused poor JC7V7DC5768 of poaching anything; again, they're not in my class, haha. If they were, they'd have gotten an A for their midterm progress report. And the student is not getting penalized for anything, of course--but they will have to look elsewhere to make significant edits. That's all I was saying. No, the moment we get complicated with detailed rubrics and all that, that is the day this is no longer fun to do. It's already hard enough because, as you can see, half the class is pretty much sitting on their hands...
JC7V7DC5768, are you still reading this? I hope you understood my point. You're a fine editor, and that quick check to see what's going on (you already took the time to look into it) will make you an even finer editor, and will bring out the collaborative aspect of the project. Thanks, Drmies ( talk) 21:19, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Drmies Thank you for the feedback. You are a fine editor too. Keep up the good work. JC7V -constructive zone 21:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Penn_State/Chemical_Game_Theory_(Fall_2018)
From a quick glance, most of the references to the term "Chemical Game Theory" are in papers by Darrel Velegol. Now Darrel Velegol
Velegol (
talk ·
contribs) is running a class with The goal of this course is that our class team will publish a page on Wikipedia on Chemical Game Theory.
This seems far out of line with Wikipedia policies and educational program policies; instructors should not be running classes to promote their own pet theories which have not seen wider adoption.
power~enwiki (
π,
ν) 02:56, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Caught this from Brainspotting being created yet again.
Seems to be a class?
pings
-- Jytdog ( talk) 01:51, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
pages created so far:
some drafts
-- Jytdog ( talk) 14:38, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
@ Fransplace:: Please instruct students to stop requesting Peer Review; they should offer peer feedback instead on the talk page of the relevant article. Many of the peer review requests are not filled out correctly. The ones that are, and continue on October 23 to be added to the Peer Review page, are overwhelming the system and will not receive feedback. They also make it likely that other editors who have submitted valid peer review requests will not be noticed.
I spent half an hour last night tagging malformed peer review requests from your students, and then an administrator would have spent another 10+ minutes responding to what I did. Now, today, I would have to do more of it for a fresh batch of malformed requests. I am not going to clean up for you any more. Will you clean up? You should look through the WP:PR page for any red-linked articles—e.g. "Popz", "Aerialtronics"—this means the article does not exist. You may request deletion of those by adding " {{csd|Malformed peer review request; not in Article space}} " to the top of each page.
Peer review policy is that only articles in Article space may be submitted. (This is a well-hidden point at Wikipedia:Peer review/Request removal policy, "Removal", Item 1.) This means that Draft: and User: pages cannot be submitted, but many students are. Others are having their articles moved back to Draft: because they are not adequate for Wikipedia (e.g. [5]), which both breaks the peer review page and makes the text ineligible for peer review in any case.
The students are also making articles that are duplicates of each other: Algeria and poverty, Poverty in Algeria, and Vietnamese Confucianism, Confucianism in Vietnam, are two I've noticed.
This has been quite disruptive. I haven't watched the education noticeboard for years, but it reminds me of the constant baby-sitting and cleaning up that was required some years ago because students were sent unprepared to Wikipedia, or were asked to do things which were not appropriate. Outriggr ( talk) 01:01, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you everyone and apologies for clogging your system. Students were instructed to add the template to pages that were already in the mainspace but clearly some didn't follow instructions. We weren't aware so many would enrol in the unit and have collected feedback from our local chapter to make sure we don't have these issues next time. The students who have breached copyright/plagiarised are being disciplined through our institutional system and we apologise for that too. Thank you again for your constructive feedback and know that we're working bit by bit on getting students to resolve the issues with their work. Fransplace 05:52, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Does anyone know about the classes being run by this user? User:Tibouchina I just ran into some questions involving the work of this user's class at WP:FTN, and I don't see if any connection has been made to this project. Perhaps someone could reach out and offer help?
jps ( talk) 02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Browsing WP:Peer review, I found that Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Brooklyn_College,_CUNY/THEA_7214X_-_Global_Theater_History_and_Theory_I_(Fall_2018) is another source of student peer reviews. The direction is "Officially 'nominate' your article for peer review on Wikipedia, so that your classmates (and possibly others) can give you feedback on your work. Instructions are here." An example from that class is Wikipedia:Peer review/The Jew of Malta/archive1.
It seems clear that something has shifted in the practices that are recommended for educational assignments recently. Formerly, I've seen many "peer review" assignments posted to talk pages of articles. That method scales, even if it leaves those talk-pages rather lacking in context. Creating dozens or hundreds of peer review requests at WP:PR does not scale. Of all the paid people involved here, can someone fix it? Outriggr ( talk) 02:07, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
You can find a report of Wiki Education's activities for September 2018 on Commons, meta, or our blog. Please let me know if you have any questions. Cassidy (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:25, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I found a stray student editor who has never been greeted by a Wiki Ed liaison! I'm trying to connect them with the right people so that they can be successful, since I worry that they might be in the painful situation of having unrealistic expectations from their instructor. I left a note Shalor's talk page, since they're the only Wiki Ed liaison that I've ever encountered. You can see that message here: User_talk:Shalor_(Wiki_Ed)#I_found_a_stray_student_editor_(they've_never_been_greeted_by_a_Wiki_Ed_person_etc.). From there you'll see a link to their initial call for help on the tea house which is where they've indicated that their work is for a class assignment.
Thank you for the important work that you do. I want Wikipedia to be accessible to everyone who wants to contribute and I'd hate to see course expectations that contradict Wikipedia's expectations frustrate a new student editor out of their success. Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, ( message me) 06:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Two essays on whether communism is dead or alive are in draft space and have been nominated for deletion as essays: Draft:Is Communism Dead? and Draft:Is Communism Dead or Alive. Both of them use the same sources, Danziger and Priestland. This is strongly suggestive of a class project. The two essays will probably be deleted, but if this is a class assignment, the instructor should be given better advice. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Have proposed HERE.
In my opinion this will be a significant help for the increasing student loads we are seeing. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 18:08, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Something about Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions ought to be included in the Wiki Ed training for professors teaching courses in an area subject to sanctions.
I assume that Wiki Ed Content Experts are familiar with WP:AC/DS and when to apply it. But imho, new Wiki Ed professors should learn something about this in whatever training they take when onboarding to Wiki Ed. If the course they are teaching, as often seems to be the case, touches on one of the areas that ArbCom has designated as subject to Discretionary Sanctions (such as, anything related to gender, U.S. politics, the Balkans, and a dozen other subject areas), then the professor should be given a good deal more training about Sanctions, and what it implies for the students in their course. In brief, one thing it means is that it will be harder for their students to make sucessful edits to articles without being reverted, and secondly, that they will run a greater risk of being blocked if they edit war.
In addition, as soon as students in their class have declared an intention to edit on a Wikipedia article that happens to be in a topic area subject to disretionary sanctions, somebody should add the standard {{
Ds/alert}} notice on their talk page. If I were head of Wiki Ed, I would say that this would be the responsibility of the professor, that as part of whatever wiki-related training they give to their students in class, that they introduce the topic of ArbCom sanctions to their students if the course topic is in one of the D/S areas. Further, once assignments are handed out to their students, the professor should be responsible for adding the appropriate {{
Ds/alert}} template to the talk page of every one of their students with an assignment to an article that is subject to sanctions. Content experts, or somebody at Wiki Ed, should ensure that the professors place this alert template on user Talk pages with the correct
topic code (for example, |pa
or |gg
for gender-related assignments; see
list of codes), and should follow up and place the alert themselves, if the professor does not.
Mathglot (
talk) 20:21, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
The Template {{ Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment}} is used in Talk page headers to create a horizontal box notifying viewers that the article is or was the subject of a Wiki Edu course assignment. This is useful information for editors, and I'm glad to have it. OTOH, it's a bit annoying, when these notices are stacked up, with no indication if they're all ten years old, all current, or what. For example, look at this version of Talk:Genderqueer. If you look at the last three boxes in the Talk page header on that page right above the ToC, and containing mortarboard icons on the left, you'll see what the "Assignment" advice box usually looks like. There are three of them there, but no indication of date.
I have modified that page to add the course dates ("Fall 2016", and so on), and so now in this version, the course dates are included. This is much more useful, now.
I went to the Template page itself, with a view to adding a new "date" parameter to the template for general use, and found the documentation there to be very sparse. It seems that the template writers have included a generous number of parameters for use in the code of the template, but unfortunately, nobody knows how to use the template properly, because it is nearly entirely undocumented.
It turns out that there are 18 parameters available, 12
named parameters and 6 'extra'
numbered params. It turns out one of the existing params, the "date" param, fulfills the function I wanted to add with a new "date" param. Wiki Ed training should instruct students to add at least the |term=
param when using the template. So, instead of whatever they are doing now, they might code on the article talk page:
{{ dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment |course= Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/University_of_Slobovia/Sociology_171_Gender_Studies |assignments=[[User:UserName123]], [[User:OtherUser456]] |term=Fall 2018}}
and that would already be a big improvement, even without taking advantage of any of the other dozen or so parameters.
In addition, the doc page for the template should be expanded to document all of the parameters. I've added the description of the term param to the doc page as a model of how to do this. Mathglot ( talk) 20:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC) updated to link named/numbered params, by Mathglot ( talk) 01:25, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
term
to {{CURRENTYEAR}}
here.
Mathglot (
talk) 05:50, 21 November 2018 (UTC)