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History was removed from the redirect without any discussion, and it has been at draft for over two weeks. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 23:55, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
to request an appeal or review of an action with a dedicated review process For review of page deletions or review of deletion discussion closures, use Wikipedia:Deletion review (DRV) For review of page moves, use Wikipedia:Move review (MRV)". -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 17:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
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This was closed by a non-admin as a Redirect against the unanimous consensus of all other parties (save for the article creator himself), and without any analysis as to why he did so. I might have taken the question to the closer's talk page, were it not for the caution at the top of his talk page: "If you're here to throw hissy fits over the closures of any deletion discussion, either drop the stick and accept the consensus or take them to the deletion review. The closures I've done are well-thought and therefore final, whether you like it or not. So, ain't nobody got time to argue with anyone over this matter." To my mind, a non-admin who closes in defiance of consensus, declines to set forth his analysis as to why, and refuses to discuss his reasoning has little to no business making non-admin closes, but that's a separate issue. In any event, this illegitimate closure should be reversed, and the article promptly and properly deleted. Ravenswing 21:57, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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The closer essentially gave no analysis on deletion within their initial argument and consistently cited non-notabilit .despite around 11 references within the original article. It also doesn't help that one of the rationales cited by a user used WP:SOLDIER which was no longer used and strongly discouraged by WikiProject Military history, to which the original closer essentially going by WP:IDONTLIKEIT as well as violating WP:PRIMARY in his original rationale for deletion as well as avoiding commentary within my own comment in the discussion. Despite this however, the original article also had several secondary sources. Another editor also cited WP:BASIC when there were already again, several documents and books as references. SuperSkaterDude45 ( talk) 05:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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This was a complicated discussion with varying opinions, but the closer gave no analysis, commentary, or summarization whatsoever. As is typical for AfDs, I think this needs to be closed by an administrator. –– FormalDude talk 00:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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I agree with Wikipedia's policy of G3 standards. I contributed, persevered, and worked very hard in obtaining private information. Through my searches and searches, I made sure of all sources and activities to get to the real information, I leave for make sure From some sources: http://www.winstarchem.com/news-detail1.php?newsId=6 greetings to you all DodeDznIQ ( talk) 13:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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While I agree with the elimination of most of the tennis player navboxes listed in the bulk nomination, which simply mirrored their respective career statistics articles, these 4 templates should not have been deleted. With respect to the nominator, saying "all of these players don't deserve one" of a list including these players only shows very limited knowledge of the subject area. Martina Navratilova and Chris Evert are two of the greatest female players of all time by any metric, Naomi Osaka is the highest-earning female athlete of all time [3] and the Bryan Brothers are the greatest men's doubles team of all time. Each of these players/team have numerous related articles, which were linked in the analysis by Nigej. One of the only two delete votes, by Fyunck(click), was explicitly "delete most", not delete all. I therefore request that the deletion of these 4 templates be overturned. This is not an endorsement of the current formatting of the templates, which certainly can be improved/reverted to a superior state. Sod25 ( talk) 06:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Pawandeep Rajan is a famous singer and musician of India and has done notable work outside of Indian Idol. He deserves a seperate article on his name. So my appeal is to remove the redirect and restore the previous edit. Matu11 ( talk) 17:17, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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None of the keep votes (all eight of them, which are all essentially a variation of "passes NFOOTY") were valid, on grounds of policy (as NSPORTS states quite obviously that
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When I created a page for John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut, I noticed there was no page for one of the actors, Letha Weapons. I was surprised that she did not have a page here, so I did quite a bit of research and crated one. This took me several hours, but I thought the page was pretty good, so I moved it from "draft". This evening I see that my new page was gone. I tried to discuss it with the admin who deleted my page, but they seemed unwilling to restore the page because a *different* page about Letha Weapons (not the one that I wrote) was deleted recently. I tried to follow up with them but they stopped replying. That discussion is here. Can someone please undelete the page for me? Thank you. Polycarpa aurata ( talk) 04:25, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Can someone please put copies of the two pages somewhere so that I can compare them? Thank you. Polycarpa aurata ( talk) 15:55, 19 January 2022 (UTC) Liz, Stifle, Charles, can one of you please put copies of the two pages somewhere so that I can see them for myself? Thank you. Polycarpa aurata ( talk) 15:35, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
I started this deletion review because I believed that the page I created was deleted in error. After seeing the two versions of the page, I am sure that the page should not have been deleted "speedy g4". I also understand from comments made here that the page would likely be deleted if it were restored in its present state. If an admin can restore the page to my sandbox, I will continue to work on it there before resubmitting it. For the record, I am *not* withdrawing this review request. I would like it to be acknowledged that the page should not have been deleted in the first place. Polycarpa aurata ( talk) 22:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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I would like to see this revision deletion reverted. It was done per WP:RD1 to remove a small amount of copyrighted text. Given that the copyvio was noticed relatively late, this resulted in the deletion of a large number of intervening edits and obscured the provenance of a decent amount of newly added content. This is against current policy: see Wikipedia talk:Revision deletion#RD1, attribution and intervening edits for the details, including a caveat about a novel interpretation that – if adopted – could result in a change to those policies. But even if that were to happen – so far there has been zero indication of that – this revdel would still likely appear as disproportionate. That's because in order to completely expunge less than 0.7 kB of copyvio text, it resulted in the deletion of about 60 intervening edits and so has erased traceability for the numerous changes introduced in them, as well as for the 2.5 kB of text that they added. – Uanfala (talk) 13:56, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
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The original text was written by me and submitted to the webpage https://endeavornigeria.org/ade-bajomo/ i have evidence to prove this -- Timone13 ( talk) 12:06, 18 January 2022 (UTC) 1/18/2021
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The page was deleted by G2, but it was not used for testing, and it should be redirect to WP:sandbox.-- Q28 ( talk) 11:42, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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Closed on the basis of no sources. A full review by The Hindu here. Full paragraph about the film's soundtrack here. Mention about production here. Mentions about box office failure here. Random other mentions here, here, here, here, and here. All of these sources (most from 2002-2004) existed at the time of the deletion discussion. DareshMohan ( talk) 02:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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Wanting a second discussion on this article's deletion. Page has barely improved on issues mentioned in deletion review since 2007 and still reads like a POV fork. As Krimpet stated in the last deletion proposal, the author admits: "Why I created this article is the point that most men who wear pantyhose are not any more 'fetishists' or 'crossdressers', AND that pantyhose for men is an individual type of pantyhose just like stockings or leggings that may be separated from pantyhose." The page exists simply to validate the author's point that pantyhose are not simply for crossdressers. I agree with this statement, but that's not what Wikipedia is for, and is not neutral. This is shown by the page's avoidance of mentioning sexual fetishism in much detail (which is likely a huge reason as to why most men are buying pantyhose), refusal to mention any societal pushback against men in pantyhose, and simply being made of flimsy justifications for male pantyhose being non-fetishistic. "NFL Players wear them to stop from getting cold during winter games"...? No citation, and doesn't actually mention the most major tie between NFL and pantyhose - an NFL quarterback in a nylons commercial that had nothing to do with the usage of nylons in the NFL, notorious only due to men in pantyhose being hugely societally condemned at the time. Apologies if the deletion tag on the article is incorrect: unsure about the policy when previously marked for deletion. Purradiselost ( talk) 09:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
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I have heard about Nicolás because he was nominated for the Navarra Television Awards, and I heard him on Cadena SER. He has appeared in RNE, in the Telediario, writes in Diario 16, has met with great politicians ( Mariya Gabriel, for example), and has been proposing educational changes in math for a long time. Without present biases, and with reputable sources, and surely more things that have gone unnoticed, I believe that Nicolás's Wikipedia article should be restored, and remain on Wikipedia. 83.53.76.219 ( talk) 17:02, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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This is an animated short film that was released theatrically in 2006 and was shortlisted for an Academy Award. It won the Grand Prize at the Sundance Film Festival. In 2012, Everything Will Be OK was edited into a longer feature film, along with its two sequels, under the new title "It's Such a Beautiful Day". The Wikipedia page for "Everything Will Be OK" has been nominated for deletion, to be merged instead with the page for the feature film version, "It's Such a Beautiful Day". I disagree with this deletion and merge. The short film has enough merit and notability to justify its own entry. It was released on its own DVD in 2007 and currently has over a million views as a standalone on YouTube. It's similar to a song like "Eleanor Rigby" having its own Wikipedia entry. This song could logically be merged with the page for the "Revolver" album but it's notable enough to merit its own entry. Ang-pdx ( talk) 01:50, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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I believe this list is relevant and a good extension of the main article, Simple (video game series). It has a reasonable scope (games released under one budget line by one company). A main argument is that most of the individual items aren't notable, but per WP:NOTESAL and many other video game list articles, this is evidently not a problem in most cases. I would be willing to work on the article and make sure it's properly formatted and referenced (one of the points in brought up in the AfD I agree with) if recreation is allowed. I would also be fine with it being restored to draftspace until proper references are added. The votes in the deletion discussion were 3 for deletion to 1 for keeping, with one editor commenting but not voting. RoseCherry64 ( talk) 19:20, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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Multiple mentions in independent reliable sources (see [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]). More than satisfies WP:GNG. Dāsānudāsa ( talk) 12:15, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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Pete Vainowski was a star American football lineman from the 1920s to the early 1930s. He played at least nine seasons professionally, including one game in the National Football League (NFL) during 1926, thus satisfying NGRIDIRON, which states a player is presumed notable if they have played in the NFL. Despite this, Vainowski was deleted in an AFD in which there were 8 keeps compared to just three deletes, marking the only time in Wikipedia's 20+ year history that a player in one of the "Big Four Leagues" (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL) was denied of an article when his professional career was known (excluding cases in MLB when the player had an unknown given name). Vainowski was not a "sub-stub" existing for years without expansion. The article was in excellent shape at the time of deletion, and included over 15 references and was 7,000+ bytes. Keep !voter Cbl62 said in the discussion, "Passes WP:NGRIDIRON. This is not a sub-stub that has existed for five or ten years without any development. The article has existed for barely a year and should be given time to develop further -- the article has grown eight fold (from 200 characters of narrative text to more than 1,650) in the day since the nomination." Unlike soccer/association football, in which players with one appearance in 50+ different leagues are routinely deleted after not even coming close to GNG, American football is different; NGRIDIRON is very tightly focused. As Cbl62 worded it: "The only players from the years prior to World War II who qualify for a presumption of notability are those from the NFL from 1921 to 1939. This in stark contrast to rugby and soccer, where we have SNGs that purport to establish notability for tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands?) of players who appeared in as little as one game in dozens of leagues at varying levels (top of the pyramid and on down to the middle of the pyramid) and for more than two centuries of competition. The rugby and soccer SNGs have resulted in a plethora of sub-stubs and have drawn the ire of many editors. While some sports have failed to properly tailor their SNGs, American football is not one of those sports. NGRIDIRON was tightly focused already, and in the past year we have narrowed it even further by eliminating the Arena Football League and squashing efforts to add the World Football League." In fact, the only leagues that pass NGRIDIRON are the Canadian Football League, National Football League, American Football League and All-America Football Conference (both of which merged into the NFL), and the United States Football League. This is an encyclopedia, so why would we exclude an article on someone who meets the criteria of inclusion and has a high-quality page? This is a National Football League player article with over 15 references and a 7,000+ byte page. In addition to having played one game in a NGRIDIRON-satisfying league, Vainowski also played college football at Loyola and at least nine seasons professionally. Furthermore, although source-wise there was not much significant coverage, there is a very reasonable presumption that significant coverage exists. As for coverage of that period and prior, it can be very difficult to find, as not all of it is online. Another issue with older coverage that I previously brought up in the discussion is that Newspapers.com has difficulty identifying results from that time, so even if it did contain the newspapers that significantly covered Vainowski, results may not show up through a simple search. Additionally, although I know that the number of !votes does not matter, to see a "rough consensus" of "delete" in that discussion, you would have to literally get rid of every single "keep" !vote, which is not an accurate closure when they have policy-based arguments. All of the keep !votes cited NGRIDIRON, which states a topic is “presumed notable” if they have played in the NFL, CFL, USFL, AAFC, or AFL. Therefore, since he is "presumed notable," I do not see a reason to get rid of the article. Several different editors have agreed that it was a bad closure (including two admins), which in addition to my reasons stated above, convince me that the Pete Vainowski AFD should be overturned from "delete" to "keep." Pinging discussion !voters: @ Cbl62: @ Editorofthewiki: @ Rlendog: @ Nosebagbear: @ Metropolitan90: @ Curbon7: @ JonnyDKeen: @ Lepricavark: @ JoelleJay: @ Onel5969: BeanieFan11 ( talk) 03:02, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
No one besides a wikipedia editor has made a connection between these Vainowskis and our Pete; they're probably the same person but
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Excluding database listings, but including all mentions in newspapers, there are a total of 228 words on Vainowski, of which 167 are from his obituaries (not independent), 24 are literally just his name and position in lineups/sub lists (and this includes the person he subbed for), and just 37 (spread over three newspaper articles) have at least a clause of attached text: 1.
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leaving a request to reopen on the talk page of the closer. I see they took the request somewhat personally since they made reference to my request in the combative terms of being a "challenge" to them multiple times in their
response to me. At any rate, my request to have the discussion reopened is based on the poor judgement of the 1) In the case of the IP editor, the closer made the claim in their response to me giving them a heads up about this IP that: 2) Here, you will see the judgement of evidence is dubious by the closer; 3) Closer admits mistakes were made (even if not in my favor). However, they say they were prepared to reopen, but saw no other way to close. This strongly suggests to me the only possible outcome they could see was closing the discussion one way or the other. The fact they could not see an alternative of reopening the discussion to let it run some more is indicative of poor closing insight. I do not have any closing experience, but if it were me, and the last comment were by a Overturn and propose closer reverse changes and reopen discussion. Huggums537 ( talk) 17:33, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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The closer was involved and is already blowing off a request to reopen. No good will come from short circuiting this discussion so can someone uninvolved reopen it please? Spartaz Humbug! 21:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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Contesting the claim of "orphaned, unencyclopedic" at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 May 17#File:DSC02280.JPG. I traced on the history at Villa Savoye and found that it was once used on the article. It was removed for some reason. Location and subject now determined, but cannot be moved to Commons because Villa Savoye is in France; instead it shall be hosted locally here and added tag {{ FoP-USonly}}. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 01:46, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
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This is now the only redlink at Portal:Current events/Events by month. Given the discussion at Portal talk:Current events#RfC on which year should be the cut-off point and the similar MfDs ( Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Current events/January 1994, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Current events/November 1994 (2nd nomination), and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Current events/April 1995) that were closed as procedural keep, I think the page should be undeleted for now pending mass consensus to delete the monthly Portal:Current events subpages for all the months in 1994. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 15:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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Timeline of Cunard's and David Gerard's edits at Yat Siu:
The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline through these two sources which I had added to the article:
David Gerard stated in a revert to redirect: "Please keep to consensus". I started a discussion at Talk:Yat Siu#Where was the consensus to redirect this page to Animoca Brands? at 00:17, 2 January 2022 (UTC) and made a followup post at 15:20, 2 January 2022 (UTC). The posts asked David Gerard for a link to the discussion where a consensus to redirect was formed. I did not receive a reply from David Gerard. I then made a post on User talk:David Gerard at 23:04, 2 January 2022 (UTC) repeating my question but still did not receive a reply. As my talk page posts did not produce any discussion, and as I do not want to edit war to restore the article again, I am taking this to deletion review to ask for the community to review this. If there was a previous consensus at an AfD to redirect this article, I would like there to be a new consensus to restore the article. Cunard ( talk) 00:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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Per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 December 30#Template:Translation/Preload, nominating user did not understand purpose of preload templates. It is used by User:AnomieBOT when adding talkback notices to talk pages (source: User:AnomieBOT/source/d/Talk.pm) – radar 33 19:17, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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Although this RfD was a bundled nomination, I don't think the closer was correct in his blanket dismissal of everything as 'no consensus'. For all but 2 redirects involved, there was a supermajority of 3 to 1 in favor of deletion, and the only dissenting argument was rebutted. Avilich ( talk) 18:26, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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I came to find that this article was deleted because the sources gave trivial mentions as per the deletion discussion ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mandar_Agashe). With just a quick google search of the subject and I was able to find news coverage of the subject’s business ( [1] [2] [3] [4]), music ( [5] [6] [7] [8]), and a bank scam the subject was involved in ( [9] [10] [11] [12]). Maybe these were not mentioned in the article that got deleted, and perhaps someone could add them? If it is not suitable for non-users to make suggestions like these, please promptly delete this post. This is just an avid wiki reader's suggestion. 2405:201:1006:E03A:5853:B349:68CE:798A ( talk) 14:56, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elephant Robotics, the AfD closer wrote, "After a thorough discussion of the available sources, people are divided about whether they are sufficient to establish notability. There are valid reasons for both points of view, such that I can't determine whose arguments are stronger. But in terms of numbers, we have 7 delete to 3 keep (including a "weak" keep"). This is above the two-thirds threshold that I use as a benchmark for rough consensus, ceteris paribus." Three of the comments were made before any sources were provided. Two of the "delete" comments were from IP addresses. From Wikipedia:Deletion guidelines for administrators:The IP addresses are indistinguishable from "accounts created solely for voting on the deletion discussion" as they have no other contributions. As Sandstein's close is heavily based on a vote count where two of the "delete" comments were from IP addresses, I asked Sandstein to change his close to "no consensus". Sandstein replied, "No, because the IP addresses engaged in a reasonable (if brief) analysis of sources, similar to Deathlibrarian on the 'keep' side, such that I can't dismiss their opinions." My view is that in a close heavily based on a vote count, Sandstein should have discounted the arguments of the IP addresses. Overturn to no consensus. Cunard ( talk) 19:07, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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Deleted by Woohookitty under CSD A7. Morton was a founding member of the Open Source Seed Initiative and is famous as a lettuce breeder thanks to a variety of his being the first plant grown and eaten in space. There were ten reliable sources in the article to back this up and three more on the talk page, eleven of them are archived in my sandbox here (two of those are from Morton's website, which wasn't used as a reference in the article). I don't think A7 was appropriate here, and I've said as much on the deleting admin's talk page, but looking at their recent activity (and considering the fact that they didn't bother to notify me at all), I don't know when or if I'll be getting a response from them. Mysterious Whisper ( talk) 17:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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The content generated by the template was essential for List of dates for Easter and merely informative for Easter controversy (where its verbosity could have been limited by the use of parameters), but it was not substed upon deletion as had been suggested in the discussion. — Christoph Päper 16:35, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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The article about Viktor Fedotov was created and then deleted following a deletion discussion. Then I recreated it rewriting it anew. I don't have access to the original deleted article but I took into account the issues raised at the deletion discussion. Then it was speedy-deleted again. The subject is clearly notable, there are multiple articles about him in media (for example in Forbes Russia)and continuing coverage of his issues in the UK (see this Guardian article which is less than one month old). Alaexis ¿question? 10:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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History was removed from the redirect without any discussion, and it has been at draft for over two weeks. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 23:55, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
to request an appeal or review of an action with a dedicated review process For review of page deletions or review of deletion discussion closures, use Wikipedia:Deletion review (DRV) For review of page moves, use Wikipedia:Move review (MRV)". -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 17:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
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This was closed by a non-admin as a Redirect against the unanimous consensus of all other parties (save for the article creator himself), and without any analysis as to why he did so. I might have taken the question to the closer's talk page, were it not for the caution at the top of his talk page: "If you're here to throw hissy fits over the closures of any deletion discussion, either drop the stick and accept the consensus or take them to the deletion review. The closures I've done are well-thought and therefore final, whether you like it or not. So, ain't nobody got time to argue with anyone over this matter." To my mind, a non-admin who closes in defiance of consensus, declines to set forth his analysis as to why, and refuses to discuss his reasoning has little to no business making non-admin closes, but that's a separate issue. In any event, this illegitimate closure should be reversed, and the article promptly and properly deleted. Ravenswing 21:57, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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The closer essentially gave no analysis on deletion within their initial argument and consistently cited non-notabilit .despite around 11 references within the original article. It also doesn't help that one of the rationales cited by a user used WP:SOLDIER which was no longer used and strongly discouraged by WikiProject Military history, to which the original closer essentially going by WP:IDONTLIKEIT as well as violating WP:PRIMARY in his original rationale for deletion as well as avoiding commentary within my own comment in the discussion. Despite this however, the original article also had several secondary sources. Another editor also cited WP:BASIC when there were already again, several documents and books as references. SuperSkaterDude45 ( talk) 05:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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This was a complicated discussion with varying opinions, but the closer gave no analysis, commentary, or summarization whatsoever. As is typical for AfDs, I think this needs to be closed by an administrator. –– FormalDude talk 00:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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I agree with Wikipedia's policy of G3 standards. I contributed, persevered, and worked very hard in obtaining private information. Through my searches and searches, I made sure of all sources and activities to get to the real information, I leave for make sure From some sources: http://www.winstarchem.com/news-detail1.php?newsId=6 greetings to you all DodeDznIQ ( talk) 13:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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While I agree with the elimination of most of the tennis player navboxes listed in the bulk nomination, which simply mirrored their respective career statistics articles, these 4 templates should not have been deleted. With respect to the nominator, saying "all of these players don't deserve one" of a list including these players only shows very limited knowledge of the subject area. Martina Navratilova and Chris Evert are two of the greatest female players of all time by any metric, Naomi Osaka is the highest-earning female athlete of all time [3] and the Bryan Brothers are the greatest men's doubles team of all time. Each of these players/team have numerous related articles, which were linked in the analysis by Nigej. One of the only two delete votes, by Fyunck(click), was explicitly "delete most", not delete all. I therefore request that the deletion of these 4 templates be overturned. This is not an endorsement of the current formatting of the templates, which certainly can be improved/reverted to a superior state. Sod25 ( talk) 06:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Pawandeep Rajan is a famous singer and musician of India and has done notable work outside of Indian Idol. He deserves a seperate article on his name. So my appeal is to remove the redirect and restore the previous edit. Matu11 ( talk) 17:17, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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None of the keep votes (all eight of them, which are all essentially a variation of "passes NFOOTY") were valid, on grounds of policy (as NSPORTS states quite obviously that
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When I created a page for John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut, I noticed there was no page for one of the actors, Letha Weapons. I was surprised that she did not have a page here, so I did quite a bit of research and crated one. This took me several hours, but I thought the page was pretty good, so I moved it from "draft". This evening I see that my new page was gone. I tried to discuss it with the admin who deleted my page, but they seemed unwilling to restore the page because a *different* page about Letha Weapons (not the one that I wrote) was deleted recently. I tried to follow up with them but they stopped replying. That discussion is here. Can someone please undelete the page for me? Thank you. Polycarpa aurata ( talk) 04:25, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Can someone please put copies of the two pages somewhere so that I can compare them? Thank you. Polycarpa aurata ( talk) 15:55, 19 January 2022 (UTC) Liz, Stifle, Charles, can one of you please put copies of the two pages somewhere so that I can see them for myself? Thank you. Polycarpa aurata ( talk) 15:35, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
I started this deletion review because I believed that the page I created was deleted in error. After seeing the two versions of the page, I am sure that the page should not have been deleted "speedy g4". I also understand from comments made here that the page would likely be deleted if it were restored in its present state. If an admin can restore the page to my sandbox, I will continue to work on it there before resubmitting it. For the record, I am *not* withdrawing this review request. I would like it to be acknowledged that the page should not have been deleted in the first place. Polycarpa aurata ( talk) 22:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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I would like to see this revision deletion reverted. It was done per WP:RD1 to remove a small amount of copyrighted text. Given that the copyvio was noticed relatively late, this resulted in the deletion of a large number of intervening edits and obscured the provenance of a decent amount of newly added content. This is against current policy: see Wikipedia talk:Revision deletion#RD1, attribution and intervening edits for the details, including a caveat about a novel interpretation that – if adopted – could result in a change to those policies. But even if that were to happen – so far there has been zero indication of that – this revdel would still likely appear as disproportionate. That's because in order to completely expunge less than 0.7 kB of copyvio text, it resulted in the deletion of about 60 intervening edits and so has erased traceability for the numerous changes introduced in them, as well as for the 2.5 kB of text that they added. – Uanfala (talk) 13:56, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
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The original text was written by me and submitted to the webpage https://endeavornigeria.org/ade-bajomo/ i have evidence to prove this -- Timone13 ( talk) 12:06, 18 January 2022 (UTC) 1/18/2021
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The page was deleted by G2, but it was not used for testing, and it should be redirect to WP:sandbox.-- Q28 ( talk) 11:42, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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Closed on the basis of no sources. A full review by The Hindu here. Full paragraph about the film's soundtrack here. Mention about production here. Mentions about box office failure here. Random other mentions here, here, here, here, and here. All of these sources (most from 2002-2004) existed at the time of the deletion discussion. DareshMohan ( talk) 02:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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Wanting a second discussion on this article's deletion. Page has barely improved on issues mentioned in deletion review since 2007 and still reads like a POV fork. As Krimpet stated in the last deletion proposal, the author admits: "Why I created this article is the point that most men who wear pantyhose are not any more 'fetishists' or 'crossdressers', AND that pantyhose for men is an individual type of pantyhose just like stockings or leggings that may be separated from pantyhose." The page exists simply to validate the author's point that pantyhose are not simply for crossdressers. I agree with this statement, but that's not what Wikipedia is for, and is not neutral. This is shown by the page's avoidance of mentioning sexual fetishism in much detail (which is likely a huge reason as to why most men are buying pantyhose), refusal to mention any societal pushback against men in pantyhose, and simply being made of flimsy justifications for male pantyhose being non-fetishistic. "NFL Players wear them to stop from getting cold during winter games"...? No citation, and doesn't actually mention the most major tie between NFL and pantyhose - an NFL quarterback in a nylons commercial that had nothing to do with the usage of nylons in the NFL, notorious only due to men in pantyhose being hugely societally condemned at the time. Apologies if the deletion tag on the article is incorrect: unsure about the policy when previously marked for deletion. Purradiselost ( talk) 09:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
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I have heard about Nicolás because he was nominated for the Navarra Television Awards, and I heard him on Cadena SER. He has appeared in RNE, in the Telediario, writes in Diario 16, has met with great politicians ( Mariya Gabriel, for example), and has been proposing educational changes in math for a long time. Without present biases, and with reputable sources, and surely more things that have gone unnoticed, I believe that Nicolás's Wikipedia article should be restored, and remain on Wikipedia. 83.53.76.219 ( talk) 17:02, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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This is an animated short film that was released theatrically in 2006 and was shortlisted for an Academy Award. It won the Grand Prize at the Sundance Film Festival. In 2012, Everything Will Be OK was edited into a longer feature film, along with its two sequels, under the new title "It's Such a Beautiful Day". The Wikipedia page for "Everything Will Be OK" has been nominated for deletion, to be merged instead with the page for the feature film version, "It's Such a Beautiful Day". I disagree with this deletion and merge. The short film has enough merit and notability to justify its own entry. It was released on its own DVD in 2007 and currently has over a million views as a standalone on YouTube. It's similar to a song like "Eleanor Rigby" having its own Wikipedia entry. This song could logically be merged with the page for the "Revolver" album but it's notable enough to merit its own entry. Ang-pdx ( talk) 01:50, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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I believe this list is relevant and a good extension of the main article, Simple (video game series). It has a reasonable scope (games released under one budget line by one company). A main argument is that most of the individual items aren't notable, but per WP:NOTESAL and many other video game list articles, this is evidently not a problem in most cases. I would be willing to work on the article and make sure it's properly formatted and referenced (one of the points in brought up in the AfD I agree with) if recreation is allowed. I would also be fine with it being restored to draftspace until proper references are added. The votes in the deletion discussion were 3 for deletion to 1 for keeping, with one editor commenting but not voting. RoseCherry64 ( talk) 19:20, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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Multiple mentions in independent reliable sources (see [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]). More than satisfies WP:GNG. Dāsānudāsa ( talk) 12:15, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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Pete Vainowski was a star American football lineman from the 1920s to the early 1930s. He played at least nine seasons professionally, including one game in the National Football League (NFL) during 1926, thus satisfying NGRIDIRON, which states a player is presumed notable if they have played in the NFL. Despite this, Vainowski was deleted in an AFD in which there were 8 keeps compared to just three deletes, marking the only time in Wikipedia's 20+ year history that a player in one of the "Big Four Leagues" (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL) was denied of an article when his professional career was known (excluding cases in MLB when the player had an unknown given name). Vainowski was not a "sub-stub" existing for years without expansion. The article was in excellent shape at the time of deletion, and included over 15 references and was 7,000+ bytes. Keep !voter Cbl62 said in the discussion, "Passes WP:NGRIDIRON. This is not a sub-stub that has existed for five or ten years without any development. The article has existed for barely a year and should be given time to develop further -- the article has grown eight fold (from 200 characters of narrative text to more than 1,650) in the day since the nomination." Unlike soccer/association football, in which players with one appearance in 50+ different leagues are routinely deleted after not even coming close to GNG, American football is different; NGRIDIRON is very tightly focused. As Cbl62 worded it: "The only players from the years prior to World War II who qualify for a presumption of notability are those from the NFL from 1921 to 1939. This in stark contrast to rugby and soccer, where we have SNGs that purport to establish notability for tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands?) of players who appeared in as little as one game in dozens of leagues at varying levels (top of the pyramid and on down to the middle of the pyramid) and for more than two centuries of competition. The rugby and soccer SNGs have resulted in a plethora of sub-stubs and have drawn the ire of many editors. While some sports have failed to properly tailor their SNGs, American football is not one of those sports. NGRIDIRON was tightly focused already, and in the past year we have narrowed it even further by eliminating the Arena Football League and squashing efforts to add the World Football League." In fact, the only leagues that pass NGRIDIRON are the Canadian Football League, National Football League, American Football League and All-America Football Conference (both of which merged into the NFL), and the United States Football League. This is an encyclopedia, so why would we exclude an article on someone who meets the criteria of inclusion and has a high-quality page? This is a National Football League player article with over 15 references and a 7,000+ byte page. In addition to having played one game in a NGRIDIRON-satisfying league, Vainowski also played college football at Loyola and at least nine seasons professionally. Furthermore, although source-wise there was not much significant coverage, there is a very reasonable presumption that significant coverage exists. As for coverage of that period and prior, it can be very difficult to find, as not all of it is online. Another issue with older coverage that I previously brought up in the discussion is that Newspapers.com has difficulty identifying results from that time, so even if it did contain the newspapers that significantly covered Vainowski, results may not show up through a simple search. Additionally, although I know that the number of !votes does not matter, to see a "rough consensus" of "delete" in that discussion, you would have to literally get rid of every single "keep" !vote, which is not an accurate closure when they have policy-based arguments. All of the keep !votes cited NGRIDIRON, which states a topic is “presumed notable” if they have played in the NFL, CFL, USFL, AAFC, or AFL. Therefore, since he is "presumed notable," I do not see a reason to get rid of the article. Several different editors have agreed that it was a bad closure (including two admins), which in addition to my reasons stated above, convince me that the Pete Vainowski AFD should be overturned from "delete" to "keep." Pinging discussion !voters: @ Cbl62: @ Editorofthewiki: @ Rlendog: @ Nosebagbear: @ Metropolitan90: @ Curbon7: @ JonnyDKeen: @ Lepricavark: @ JoelleJay: @ Onel5969: BeanieFan11 ( talk) 03:02, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
No one besides a wikipedia editor has made a connection between these Vainowskis and our Pete; they're probably the same person but
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Excluding database listings, but including all mentions in newspapers, there are a total of 228 words on Vainowski, of which 167 are from his obituaries (not independent), 24 are literally just his name and position in lineups/sub lists (and this includes the person he subbed for), and just 37 (spread over three newspaper articles) have at least a clause of attached text: 1.
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leaving a request to reopen on the talk page of the closer. I see they took the request somewhat personally since they made reference to my request in the combative terms of being a "challenge" to them multiple times in their
response to me. At any rate, my request to have the discussion reopened is based on the poor judgement of the 1) In the case of the IP editor, the closer made the claim in their response to me giving them a heads up about this IP that: 2) Here, you will see the judgement of evidence is dubious by the closer; 3) Closer admits mistakes were made (even if not in my favor). However, they say they were prepared to reopen, but saw no other way to close. This strongly suggests to me the only possible outcome they could see was closing the discussion one way or the other. The fact they could not see an alternative of reopening the discussion to let it run some more is indicative of poor closing insight. I do not have any closing experience, but if it were me, and the last comment were by a Overturn and propose closer reverse changes and reopen discussion. Huggums537 ( talk) 17:33, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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The closer was involved and is already blowing off a request to reopen. No good will come from short circuiting this discussion so can someone uninvolved reopen it please? Spartaz Humbug! 21:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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Contesting the claim of "orphaned, unencyclopedic" at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 May 17#File:DSC02280.JPG. I traced on the history at Villa Savoye and found that it was once used on the article. It was removed for some reason. Location and subject now determined, but cannot be moved to Commons because Villa Savoye is in France; instead it shall be hosted locally here and added tag {{ FoP-USonly}}. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 01:46, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
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This is now the only redlink at Portal:Current events/Events by month. Given the discussion at Portal talk:Current events#RfC on which year should be the cut-off point and the similar MfDs ( Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Current events/January 1994, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Current events/November 1994 (2nd nomination), and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Current events/April 1995) that were closed as procedural keep, I think the page should be undeleted for now pending mass consensus to delete the monthly Portal:Current events subpages for all the months in 1994. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 15:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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Timeline of Cunard's and David Gerard's edits at Yat Siu:
The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline through these two sources which I had added to the article:
David Gerard stated in a revert to redirect: "Please keep to consensus". I started a discussion at Talk:Yat Siu#Where was the consensus to redirect this page to Animoca Brands? at 00:17, 2 January 2022 (UTC) and made a followup post at 15:20, 2 January 2022 (UTC). The posts asked David Gerard for a link to the discussion where a consensus to redirect was formed. I did not receive a reply from David Gerard. I then made a post on User talk:David Gerard at 23:04, 2 January 2022 (UTC) repeating my question but still did not receive a reply. As my talk page posts did not produce any discussion, and as I do not want to edit war to restore the article again, I am taking this to deletion review to ask for the community to review this. If there was a previous consensus at an AfD to redirect this article, I would like there to be a new consensus to restore the article. Cunard ( talk) 00:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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Per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 December 30#Template:Translation/Preload, nominating user did not understand purpose of preload templates. It is used by User:AnomieBOT when adding talkback notices to talk pages (source: User:AnomieBOT/source/d/Talk.pm) – radar 33 19:17, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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Although this RfD was a bundled nomination, I don't think the closer was correct in his blanket dismissal of everything as 'no consensus'. For all but 2 redirects involved, there was a supermajority of 3 to 1 in favor of deletion, and the only dissenting argument was rebutted. Avilich ( talk) 18:26, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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I came to find that this article was deleted because the sources gave trivial mentions as per the deletion discussion ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mandar_Agashe). With just a quick google search of the subject and I was able to find news coverage of the subject’s business ( [1] [2] [3] [4]), music ( [5] [6] [7] [8]), and a bank scam the subject was involved in ( [9] [10] [11] [12]). Maybe these were not mentioned in the article that got deleted, and perhaps someone could add them? If it is not suitable for non-users to make suggestions like these, please promptly delete this post. This is just an avid wiki reader's suggestion. 2405:201:1006:E03A:5853:B349:68CE:798A ( talk) 14:56, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elephant Robotics, the AfD closer wrote, "After a thorough discussion of the available sources, people are divided about whether they are sufficient to establish notability. There are valid reasons for both points of view, such that I can't determine whose arguments are stronger. But in terms of numbers, we have 7 delete to 3 keep (including a "weak" keep"). This is above the two-thirds threshold that I use as a benchmark for rough consensus, ceteris paribus." Three of the comments were made before any sources were provided. Two of the "delete" comments were from IP addresses. From Wikipedia:Deletion guidelines for administrators:The IP addresses are indistinguishable from "accounts created solely for voting on the deletion discussion" as they have no other contributions. As Sandstein's close is heavily based on a vote count where two of the "delete" comments were from IP addresses, I asked Sandstein to change his close to "no consensus". Sandstein replied, "No, because the IP addresses engaged in a reasonable (if brief) analysis of sources, similar to Deathlibrarian on the 'keep' side, such that I can't dismiss their opinions." My view is that in a close heavily based on a vote count, Sandstein should have discounted the arguments of the IP addresses. Overturn to no consensus. Cunard ( talk) 19:07, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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Deleted by Woohookitty under CSD A7. Morton was a founding member of the Open Source Seed Initiative and is famous as a lettuce breeder thanks to a variety of his being the first plant grown and eaten in space. There were ten reliable sources in the article to back this up and three more on the talk page, eleven of them are archived in my sandbox here (two of those are from Morton's website, which wasn't used as a reference in the article). I don't think A7 was appropriate here, and I've said as much on the deleting admin's talk page, but looking at their recent activity (and considering the fact that they didn't bother to notify me at all), I don't know when or if I'll be getting a response from them. Mysterious Whisper ( talk) 17:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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The content generated by the template was essential for List of dates for Easter and merely informative for Easter controversy (where its verbosity could have been limited by the use of parameters), but it was not substed upon deletion as had been suggested in the discussion. — Christoph Päper 16:35, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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The article about Viktor Fedotov was created and then deleted following a deletion discussion. Then I recreated it rewriting it anew. I don't have access to the original deleted article but I took into account the issues raised at the deletion discussion. Then it was speedy-deleted again. The subject is clearly notable, there are multiple articles about him in media (for example in Forbes Russia)and continuing coverage of his issues in the UK (see this Guardian article which is less than one month old). Alaexis ¿question? 10:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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