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Just wondering what this is about. I see it occasionally, but today it's fairly bad. I'm having a hard time viewing my watchlist. By the time you answer this, it may be resolved, but I wanted to know what it was about. -- Veggy ( talk)
3591 seconds! SharkD ( talk) 02:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
What exacly rules do you use by sorting interwiki? I suggested new sorting order for Polish Wikipedia: 1, 2, 3, but I don't know the reason of oryginal sorting order. Or mayby you would like to use new sorting order.
I asked on Help talk:Interlanguage links, but there was no answer. BartekChom ( talk) 12:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone. As you guys did such a great job last time I asked for help, I would like to request another custom link to be put in my sidebar. Namely, I would like it to go in the "interaction" section, be called "New pages" and link to [2]. If someone could make me the appropriate code to do that, that would be very much appreciated. It Is Me Here ( talk) 18:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
addOnloadHook(function(){ addPortletLink ('p-interaction', '/?title=Special:NewPages&limit=500&hidebots=1&hidepatrolled=1', 'New Pages','n-newpages', 'The list of recently created pages'); });
addOnloadHook(function(){
addPortletLink ('p-interaction', wgScript + '?title=Special:NewPages&limit=500&hidebots=1&hidepatrolled=1',
'New pages', 'n-newpages', 'The list of recently created pages', null, document.getElementById('n-recentchanges') );
});
UTC)
Well, I assume that the changes in the Java editor are useful for many. But for non-java editors, the drop-down menu "palettes" are actually a pretty disruptive change - ALL the ones I seem to use are on the "Wiki markup" palette, so you've just added two extra mouse actions to every edit I seem to make. Unhappy with that, to be honest :-(
Couldn't one at least add a "preferences" menu selection as to what palette is selected by default for every user? Thanks. Ingolfson ( talk) 07:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm pleased to announce that Tim has just enabled the Global Blocking extension on all Wikimedia projects.
The global blocking extension allows stewards to block IP addresses and ranges on all of Wikimedia's projects, a tool which has been much-needed to deal with cross-wiki vandalism and spam. Policies for use of global blocking were discussed on meta, and are presently located at < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_blocking>. Global blocks are not currently applied on meta, so that they may be appealed there.
While the code has been quite thoroughly checked, any bugs should be reported at bugzilla - a 'GlobalBlocking' component exists under the 'Extensions' product.
— Werdna • talk 12:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't it automated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumarine ( talk • contribs) 03:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
It's as if when I send an email I have to put 4 tildas at the end otherwise the recipient can't see my e-mail address. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumarine ( talk • contribs) 03:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
LiquidThreads. — Werdna • talk 04:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I looked at Help:Colon trick, and it didn't enlighten me, so I'm asking here. The colon trick "is a method of providing a link to a category or image without adding the page to the category or displaying the image." What, if anything, does it do to use the colon trick on article wikilinks? I've see a few templates (example, {{ subst:spam-warn}} that put the colon in wikilinks to the articles (example, [3]). Does this do (or undo) anything? Phlegm Rooster ( talk) 08:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
[[Category:Ambox templates using deprecated types|Main:Caffè corretto]]
[[Category:Ambox templates using deprecated types|Main:Corretto]]
The above lines are found at the very beginning of Caffè corretto and Corretto respectively. I cannot see them in the source. Where are these phantom words come from? How to fix it? -- Quest for Truth ( talk) 13:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
CSS will be broken for a few minutes during this software upgrade. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- brion ( talk) 23:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Do you know why the External links section is indented in a strange way in Kind of Blue? I can't figure it out. Thanks! — Mattisse ( Talk) 13:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The menu with the insertion options under the editing window seems to have been changed. There is a drop down menu and an extra step to find everything. It works ok at my house, but on my work computer with windows 2000 running internet explorer 6, you cant click on anything to insert it. It only shows what the first drop down menu would and it is just text. I can't get to anything else like greek letters. Can we go back to the old way or fix this one? Grk1011 ( talk) 16:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Several internal pages in Wikipedia space that are maintained by a bot have just appeared in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion, even though nobody tagged them. One of them is Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Chicago articles by quality/1. I can't figure out how this page managed to get itself tagged for speedy deletion. Maybe it's transcluding some template that is missing a <noinclude>? The previous version of this page doesn't have the problem. The only 'person' who ever edits this page is User:WP 1.0 bot. EdJohnston ( talk) 18:58, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! Just created a template ({{ HMS2Deg}}) and noticed some strange behavior:
I've reloaded and cleared cache etc. several times. I even did it just now after composing this to see if it was some kind of db lag. I'm confused. Saintrain ( talk) 22:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Normally in sortable tables, the sorting icon gets treated as if it were a character. I.e., it follows the alignment formatting of the text, and breaks onto new lines as if it were text. I find this very ugly, and as a result have been experimenting with somehow giving the icon its own style rules so that it behaves more like a cell than text (like what you find in many file systems).
You can find my changes to wikibits.js here: here is a long one).
. Simply add the JS code to your "monobook.js" file and load a page with sortable tables (I was wondering what your opinions of these changes are. I think the aesthetic appeal is strong, but I am worried about performance. Is it too slow, or are there other performance issues that make it impractical? I would appreciate it if you would give the script a test-drive in order to provide feedback. Thanks! SharkD ( talk) 21:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if this isn't in the right place, this is only the second time I have come to the village pump. I am curious to know if it would be possible to color code contributing anons and users so that the RC people could tell based on the color of the user's link how many warnings they have recieved in relation to being blocked. Would something like this be possible (or acceptable)? TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Of course, some work on automating vandalfighting within MediaWiki itself could help... — Werdna • talk 05:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it possible to move a page to rename an article (spelling error, title needed capital letters), and then once the page is successfully moved, to delete the old name/page so that on the new page, under the new title, a "redirected from ____ page" does not appear. My reason for this is that when searching in google, the old mispelled name appears, and onc you click on it, it redirects to the new page - I dont want to see the old mis-spelled name anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infocentral2000 ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the way we do redirects doesn't provide Google with the information it needs to update and remove the old title from search results. -- Random832 ( contribs) 20:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Having done some work with templates, I find myself wondering whether it would be possible to create a general 'editor' preference - something that could be toggled so that cleanup templates (particularly inline cleanup templates) could be toggled on and off. this would have two advantages: first, it could default to 'off', so that general readers wouldn't be assaulted by cleanup tags that they don't understand and don't care about. second, it would allow editors to toggle between 'clean' and 'marked-up' versions of the article for easier reading and editing.
This would (obviously) require some work - there would need to be some consistent way to distinguish between cleanup and content templates, and it would need modifications to monobook.js (and maybe the monobook.css, depending on how the templates were hidden), but is the idea feasible enough to be worth putting some thought into? -- Ludwigs2 00:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
table.ambox { display: none; }
table.ambox-style, table.ambox-content { display: none; }
.Inline-Template { display: none; }
Oppose hiding anything that assists our readers in knowing what to trust and what to take with a pinch of salt. Interpreting which Wikipedia pages are reliable and which are full of crap is not a particularly difficult exercise, provided you're presented with all the facts (ie warning boxes, inline fixmes, etc). I'd prefer to go the other way and enable the metadata gadget for all users by default. Happy‑ melon 13:39, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
proposal here: MediaWiki_talk:Sidebar#add_to_navigation 86.44.22.174 ( talk) 22:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to do a merged or side-by-side comparison of the edit history of two accounts? Thanks, -- Clubjuggle T/ C 21:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
02:04, 19 August 08 SharkD m Chronology of console role-playing games ? (?Legend: fix alignment) 02:03, 19 August 08 SharkD Chronology of console role-playing games ? (?Legend: add platform) 02:00, 19 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia ? (?W: changing name of one entry) 01:58, 19 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia ? (?T: changing an entry - renamed page) 01:57, 19 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia ? (?S: various changes) 01:23, 19 August 08 SharkD Talk:Final Fantasy (video game) ? (top) 01:07, 19 August 08 SharkD Template:Sp-contributions-footer/doc ? 01:03, 19 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Coaching ? (Removing link to a page that is now a redirect) (top) 00:59, 19 August 08 SharkD User talk:Simetrical ? (?wikibits.js) 00:58, 19 August 08 John Broughton User:John Broughton/Citation options ? (Adding Q) 00:57, 19 August 08 John Broughton N User:John Broughton/Citation options ? (Goal: document all possible options for citations, and include examples.) 00:18, 19 August 08 John Broughton User:John Broughton ? (?Subpages: Adding link to a new subpage) 23:10, 18 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Sandbox ? (Test)
For over two hours I have been unable to view Wikipedia pages - they appear to start to load, then just take forever and get nowhere (and I haven't had the usual "give us your money" error message). Oddly, by clicking on links to Wikipedia pages from other sites I have been able to view some pages. It has eased up a bit just now, but did that thing of making it look like I was logged out when in fact I was logged in. I am having no problems with other webpages. DuncanHill ( talk) 21:11, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I tweaked my network settings, per the recommendations at dslreports.com, and performance seems to be much better. SharkD ( talk) 06:12, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
When I turn off visual styles for buttons, I've noticed that the catchpa does not display, nor do many pictures. Are pictures, and the catchpa actually buttons? If so, that doesn't seem like it should be. This is on WinXP IE7 70.51.10.38 ( talk) 11:09, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way to add syntax highlighting to the article edit pane? If not, is there a particular software you would recommend for editing articles (Notepad++ doesn't seem to support MediaWiki markup)? Thanks! SharkD ( talk) 06:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there a tool to list category intersections? Thanks! SharkD ( talk) 08:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Direct link to image: 1, should look like 2, instead I get 3. Anyone else see that? Deon555 ( talk) 13:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
to the svg-tag, it shows in firefox. –
Leo Laursen –
✍
⌘ 14:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
parameter to the <svg>
element takes care of that by setting the default namespace to the SVG namespace.
Anomie
⚔ 14:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)Does the left border on Monobook’s sidebar menus bother anyone else? It has bothered me forever.
The line down the side of the window should be clean, but instead it has lumps caused by the border on those side items. While, I’ve fixed it in my own stylesheet – I really think this is a nice simple change that should be pushed to the global style.
All it takes is this:
div.portlet .pBody { border-left: none; }
Thoughts? — Mobius ( talk) 06:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008072820 Firefox/3.0.1
). While I doubt I would notice if it were missing, and don't particularly care if it's removed, it's not true that this wouldn't affect other users. —
Simetrical (
talk •
contribs) 15:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)/* Setting a border to the right of the page content area. */
#content {
border-right: 1px #aaa solid;
}
Hi! Just turned off my clock gadget and CPU usage went from 10-12% to 0%. FF3.0.1 on WinXP. I can use all the cycles I can get! Saintrain ( talk) 19:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
new Date ()
" creates a Date object representing the current time), so that part is already covered. —
Ilmari Karonen (
talk) 22:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)After several months of preparation and testing, as of this writing the new, all-JavaScript implementation of edit tools — the links below the edit box that, in browsers with JavaScript enabled, let you insert all kinds of funny characters and wikimarkup into the edit box — is now turned on for everyone. This has the following advantages:
The new implementation also differs from the old in that the edit tools are grouped into alternative "palettes" that may be selected using a drop-down menu. This may feel unfamiliar and inconvenient to some people used to the old arrangement, but I've been using the new implementation myself for months now, and I find it quite convenient once one gets used to it. The major advantages of the drop-down menu system are that:
Also, as a cherry on top, the new edit tools work also work for the edit summary field. Ever wanted to use an em dash in your edit summary? Just put your cursor into the edit summary box where you want the dash and click the "—" button! Easy!
— Ilmari Karonen ( talk) 18:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
/* Turn off several things for faster page rendering. */
body { /* Turn off the large page background image. */
background: #f9f9f9;
}
#p-logo, /* Turn off the Wikipedia logo. */
#footer { /* Turn off the page footer. */
display: none;
}
#column-one { /* Move the left menus up since no Wikipedia logo now. */
padding-top: 21px;
}
li#pt-userpage { /* Turn off the small user image at top of page. */
background: none;
}
/* Hide stuff */
#minoredit_helplink {display:none}
#wpSummaryLabel {display:none}
#editpage-copywarn {display:none}
#editpage-copywarn2 {display:none}
#editpage-copywarn3 {display:none}
#siteSub {display:none !important} /* Hide sitewide subtitle (From Wikipedia, the...) */
li#pt-userpage {background:none}
Is this what I'm supposed to be seeing? No buttons, no links... nothing. SharkD ( talk) 21:55, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Note that the script will perform better if all for
statements that take the following form:
for (var i=0; i<pp.length; i++)
are changed so that they take this form:
for (var i=0, n = pp.length; i<n; i++)
This goes for all JavaScript, not just this script. The reasoning is that the object pp.length
gets evaluated each time the loop is traversed, when in reality there's no need to evaluate it more than once.
SharkD (
talk) 00:41, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
var a = []; for (var i = 0; i < 1000000; i++) ai = i; // set up array
var t0 = new Date ();
for (var j = 0; j < a.length; j++) ; // loop over array and time it
var t1 = new Date ();
alert(t1.getTime() - t0.getTime());
var a = []; for (var i = 0; i < 1000000; i++) ai = i; // set up array
var t0 = new Date ();
for (var j = 0, l = a.length; j < l; ++j) ; // loop over array (optimized) and time it
var t1 = new Date ();
alert(t1.getTime() - t0.getTime());
document.getElementsByTagName('div').length
), but even in this case I can't get the execution time to go above 0ms for ~10000 objects/iterations.
SharkD (
talk) 06:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)for(var i=a.length-1; i>=0; i--)
when the order of processing doesn't matter or when I can easily enough construct the array "backwards", after I once significantly sped up a slow script with that trick. As for preincrement versus postincrement, perhaps the javascript engine is noticing it's being done in a void context and not generate the temporary.
Anomie
⚔ 03:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
It occurred to me that a guideline on JavaScript optimization could be made. This could include both performance and file size optimizations. However, I thought that it also might be made into an article (or integrated into an existing article, such as JavaScript or Optimization (computer science)). What are your thoughts on this? SharkD ( talk) 11:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
This change makes the code uglier and almost certainly gives a trivial performance difference. Accessing the length of an array in JavaScript is (presumably) a constant-time operation, you're just hitting a member variable. Member variable access may be marginally slower than local variable access, but the difference is trivial here. Code readability is more important.
We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: premature optimization is the root of all evil. ― Donald Knuth
— Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
How do people that want all the "palettes" back to being being viewable all at once accomplish this? I find it annoying having to switch bcak and forth.-- Rockfang ( talk) 10:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Might anyone know?-- Rockfang ( talk) 08:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Since we are in the subject of the character insertion... I've always wondered why one cannot select, say, a space and substitute it with a character (say, a dash) when clicking on the appropriate button. Right now, all it does is insert the character before the selected text, which I have to delete manually. I find the substitution function very useful and it is normally available in all text processors and Internet browsers (or at least the ones I use). Is its unavailability here a technical issue or a conscious choice? Waltham, The Duke of 20:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
<ref>
, <sup>
, <code>
, <!-- -->
, and <blockquote>
. These are most useful in their current state. However, I still believe that most other characters should substitute. So, if there is the ability to apply this feature selectively, and without breaking wikEd, I think it might be a good idea. If it's too much trouble, then forget about it; the improvement I consider is not exactly crucial.
Waltham,
The Duke of 21:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Suddenly the pallette of language characters has disappeared for me, it looks like coinciding with the introduction of this drop-down menu which is announced. The pallette just isn't there where it used to be and there is no drop down menu replacing it where I am informed it should be, below the "Save page" button, . So if it doesnt come back I will have to learn a new way of inserting French/Swedish/German accents and Polish barred l's / tailed a's for example, and Cyrillic letters, since I am fairly multilingual. Below the "Save page" button I have: (1) "Do not copy text from other websites ..." (2) a box which contains "Copy and paste: ..." (3) a box which contains useful things starting with "{{}} {{{}}} | [[]]" (4) "Once you click the Save button..." I have JavaScript enabled. Both my computers (Windows XP) are like this. Is there anything I should check? There must be others with the same problem. I thought being grumpy is only for characters in the "Thomas the Tank Engine" books, but I would like some way of doing what I used to be able to do easily. Please help. P0mbal ( talk) 23:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
What's with the "insert box"? That's the box under the window where we type in changes and so on (where I'm typing this right now) and immediately under the bold face Do not copy text... warning.
It used to have a long list of symbols, including letters with macrons (which I use frequently since I contribute to several articles about Japanese culture), but not any more. Now it has a pull down menu and a list of a few symbols plus a lot of empty square boxes that don't give anything when you select them. Most of the pull-down menu items are just as bad, except for "Wiki markup," which has a list of Wiki markup symbols.
Timothy Perper ( talk) 14:15, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
By default, when editing a talk page, the message MediaWiki:Talkpagetext is displayed at the top. Is there a way to override this on a particular page? Thank you, MSGJ 19:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that some formatting buttons are left out when editing some pages. I believe the strikethrough button should appear on all pages whose title begin with "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion". The strikethrough button allows people to change their comments in a discussion and clearly mark that they just changed their mind. Right now, the only way to do that is by manually adding the <s>...</s> code, something a beginner should not be expected to guess. -- Blanchardb - Me• MyEars• MyMouth- timed 20:35, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
if(wgPageName.indexOf('Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion') != -1)
. Such suggestions should go to
MediaWiki talk:Common.js or
WP:VPP. --
Splarka (
rant) 07:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)I was trying to add an image to Highland Railway - Jones locomotives at the top of the article and used the "section edit" link to edit section 0 (which I believe is enabled by Javascript in each user's preferences).
In this case the link points to Highland Railway - everything after this part of the name is ignored. I ended up adding the image to both articles because it fits with both subjects. I'm sure I've seen this before where certain characters in the title cause it to be cut off. -=# Amos E Wolfe talk #=- 16:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I am working through Category:Motorcycle manufacturers of the United Kingdom correcting errors and adding infoboxes etc. I noticed that the nl wikipedia has a number of stubs (often containing errors) that may have been translated from the original articles - but I'm not sure how best to link to the correct version - if at all. Any suggestions? Tony ( talk) 17:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm looking through image description pages here on Wikipedia, but I cannot actually see the image or picture. When I click on the upload.wikimedia.org link at the bottom of the image, it shows up with a 404 ERROR message. Every time I've looked at an image, I could see it in plain sight on the computer, but for me, somehow doesn't seem to be working. Schfifty Three 21:43, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I third this. L337* P4wn 21:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
File uploading isn't working either. Error message "The upload directory (public) is missing and could not be created by the webserver" is showing. Gr1st ( talk) 22:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Bad update to the configuration system. It's been reverted. -- brion ( talk)
The popups tool is not longer displaying histories of articles or contribution histories of editors when I hover over the appropriate links. These features have worked for me for well over a year but this breakage appears to be persistent for me across multiple browsers. I've looked in the usual places for help or updates that might explain this and done the usual things (cleared cache, restarted, cleared monobook, etc.). Any ideas on what may have changed and, more importantly, how to fix it? -- ElKevbo ( talk) 00:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there a way to set preferences for gadgets? I had used
popupFixDabs=true; popupFixRedirs=true;
in my monobook.js. -- NE2 01:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
"Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in." that is the messege i get whenever i try to contribute. Ironically, i get the same messege when i tried to edit, while i was logged out! ( One last pharaoh ( talk) 20:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC))
I,
One_last_pharaoh have copied that from wikipedia help desk taking Natalya's advice. hope to get helped soon. Thanx in advance.
One last pharaoh (
talk) 17:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Am I imagining it, or has the "go" button in the watchlist page been moved? It used to be next to the namespace box, now it is under that box. Garion96 (talk) 21:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
<br />
tag between the "[ ] Invert selection" text and the [Go] button. Since that line is so short I too would like the [Go] button to be back on the same line as the "Namespace: [all] [ ] Invert selection" part. And it would make it clearer what the button is for.(unindent) The relevant bug is 15172. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 04:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
#mw-watchlist-options{ display:none }
fieldset#mw-watchlist-options {border:none; margin:0; padding:0}
fieldset#mw-watchlist-options legend {display:none}
I've offered US$100 for an enhancement involving linker.php; see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nathan_Larson/Bounties . If I don't hear from anyone in a few days, I'll probably make a different offer; you can also make your own offer. Nathan Larson ( talk) 02:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Is there a preference I can set somewhere to specify which set of characters appear by default in the new dropdown-menu-driven character-selection area just below the editing box? I took a look at Special:Preferences but didn't spot anything.
If there isn't any preference setting, any chance one might be implemented sooner rather than later? Sardanaphalus ( talk) 04:12, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I've seen many variations of <br>, <br />, <br \>, <\br>. Which is preferred? -- SGBailey ( talk) 07:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<br>
is the correct "HTML wikimarkup". But MediaWiki was updated to also understand <br />
some year ago so that it would be easier to cut and paste text from other free sources without having to modify each br tag in those texts.<br \>, <br\>, </br>, </ br>, <\br> and <\ br>
all are faulty variants. And the variant <br/>
is a not recommended variant of the <br />
tag, according to the
World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), since it breaks older web browsers.<br>
tag and not change all our
14 million pages every time the web standards change.<br \>
.<br almost anything here but unpaired quotes and greater than sign>
works fine (note the space after "br"), since most browsers just ignore any invalid stuff in tags. Some older browsers see <br/>
(without space) as the non-existing tag "br/". Using just <br>
is correct HTML, but incorrect XHMTL, since the tag is never closed. and consequently the page is malformed. Concluding: the safest choice is: <br />
, being ok in HTML in old and new browsers and in XHTML. −
Woodstone (
talk) 10:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)<br />some random text up to the next / character
in HTML is equivalent to <br>>some random text up to the next </br> character
due to the "Null End Tags" feature of
SGML (upon which HTML was based), although no major browser supports this. So nothing is truly safe.
Anomie
⚔ 11:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
". −
Woodstone (
talk) 11:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Bold</span>
? I hope you don't seriously mean we should go by their recommendations and stop using the wikimarkup '''Bold'''
, right?<br>
tag. Remember, this is the "encyclopedia that anyone can edit".The wiki source code A<br>B is automatically converted to A<br />B during the rendering process. The trailing / is important only so that the generated HTML can be validated as meeting certain W3C standards. Either the slashed or non-slashed form can be used in wiki text, as they produce the same result. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 15:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<br />
is a job for
SmackBot (
talk ·
contribs ·
blocks ·
protections ·
deletions ·
page moves ·
rights ·
RfA) to do, as and when it edits those pages?
Andy Mabbett |
Talk to Andy Mabbett 15:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
as long as they still work. I personally use <br />
, but <br>
is fine. --
Imperator3733 (
talk) 20:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<br />
and <br/>
before, but, for the record here, I'll just add that I find the technically-correct <br />
a pain to use, thanks to that space between the "r" and the backslash that so helpfully linewraps. I guess I've got used to seeing a backslash there, however -- probably thanks to other HTML tags -- so I continue to use <br/>
, old browsers notwithstanding.
Sardanaphalus (
talk) 21:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi guys. Could you possibly explain how in my contributions page when I click "Global contribs" from the following menu at the bottom of the page:
Subpages · Edit and action count · Interiot · Edit summary usage · Images uploaded · SUL accounts · Global contribs
A full list appears from the various projects I've been contributing to. How does the system know, for example, that I contribute to the Greek Wikipedia since my username is not the same as in the english Wikipedia? Also in the French Wikipedia I use the same username as here, but it could easily have been someone else using the same username. How do all these global projects know that the user is connected to all these other projects for certain? Thanks. Dr.K. ( talk) 17:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
el.wikipedia.org (talk | Block log | Logs | User contributions | Replag: 5 sec | 16 User contributions )
Hi, I'm Peter Brodersen and I'm mostly active at the Danish Wikipedia with technical implementations. I would like to tell about an implementation that could easily be ported to other countries' wikis.
Let's jump to the conclusion: I have utilized data from wikipedia by combining categories of "Missing pictures" and "Geotagged article" to create a list and create a Google Maps Mashup: http://www.findvej.dk/wikipedia?nopic=1 (data from Danish wiki only)
All the markers on the map represent an article where we are missing a good photo.
This could make it easy to get help from people travelling around in Denmark (on their way to job, walking in the woods, geocaching hunting and so on) to see where photos are missing in their area. If people are in the area of missing photos after all they might just be persuaded to take some photos.
The Danish Wikipedia is about to reach 100.000 articles. However a lot of places (airports, universities, parks, shopping malls, train stations and so on) does still not have a photo of the subject. We have tried to raise some awareness of this but it is pretty hard just to ask people to go out and take pictures of random stuff.
People might be helpful or wanting to participate but it is easier to tell volunteers to perform specific tasks instead of more generally ask them just to "participate".
Since GPS is pretty widespread and there are also a bunch of friendly geocachers as an "untapped resource" we would like to create a resource to make people aware of our needs.
We have to start somewhere. At first we would just add articles of different locations and buildings to a category, e.g. "Picture Needed". This was a labour-intensive task. It would also be pretty random which articles we added to this category. And it would require a bit of maintenance to remember to remove this category when pictures are added.
[[Category:Picture Needed]]
For good measure we could want to add __HIDDENCAT__ to our category as not to pollute the articles with these "flags"
We use infobox templates a lot as it is the case here on the English wiki. There are templates for cinemas, airports, rivers, lakes and so on. Most of these templates has a field for adding a picture.
As a rule there is no reason not to have a picture of a given location. Therefore I have updated these location specific templates to add the current page in the category equivalent to "Picture Needed" if no picture is present.
This is pretty easy. Let's say a template take {{{picture}}} as an argument. We would then add the following condition:
<includeonly>{{ #if: {{{picture|}}} | | [[Category:Picture Needed]]}}</includeonly>
The idea is basically to quickly put a lot of existing articles into this category where it tend to make sense and furthermore have a system that maintains itself. Whenever a new article is using this template the it would be added to the category (without any extra work from the author).
In our implementations I have used subcategories such as [[Category:Picture of church needed]]. This category would again belong to [[Category:Picture Needed]]. But this isn't that important.
All Danish articles with geocoding information added in a template resembling {{Coord}}. This template adds the article to a hidden category; "Geocoded Article".
We can then use existing tools to get the intersection between lists of articles in "Picture Needed" and articles in "Geocoded Article". If the last category is not available we could create the list based on which pages transcludes the {{Coord}} template or a similar template.
I'm currently using AutoWikiBrowser to manually create the intersection list but I'm pretty sure this intersection could be created with automated tools - perhaps the API?. The goal is to have this step automated as well.
With the intersection list from Step 3 we can create a map with these articles marked. In my case I have used the Google Maps API myself but I suppose it would be fairly easy to create a KML output with the title and the coordinates of the articles.
Some of our users have requested the list of articles and coordinates as POIs in different GPS device friendly formats. This would be our next task. Simply put, we would like people to recieve data the way they like. We can't expect people to spend time getting familiar with Wikipedia and search functions. But if we just put up GPS files the GPS using community the task is pretty clear: We need pictures of these places. Please take one if you happen to pass any of them.
We now have a process where templates are used for more than just uniform look and content. We also have a system where data added from people in one end of the process (e.g. authors writing a new article) is helping other people in the other end.
There is no extra work for people who already use these templates. Their effort is not being complicated at all by this system. It's baiscally just a way of utilizing any bit existing information.
The goal is to have an automated process that is based on the existing flow and usage of templates and therefore requires no maintenance.
I hope this idea of utilizing existing features and content is interesting for other countries as well.
- Penguin ( talk) 01:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Help! I'm a new user, and am having trouble with an image I uploaded.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1917_-_New_Rockland_Trust_Bank_Bldg_288_Union_St.jpg
(sorry for the URL - I don't know how to do Wikilinks yet)
Why doesn't this image appear on the page? If I make a gif, it shows up. Otherwise, the JPG doesn't seem to work. I've uploaded other JPGs -- most, but not all -- are just fine
Any suggestions welcome!
Pames ( talk) 13:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<--- Outdent: any news on this one, it's still broken for me in Firefox 2.0.0.16. – ukexpat ( talk) 14:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Question moved from WP:RD/C -- Consumed Crustacean ( talk) 02:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
We constantly encounter issues with page freezing when accessing Wikipedia (English) using Windows 2000 workstations and IE6. Please let me know if this has been escalated before? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.193.1.6 ( talk) 01:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
https://developer.berlios.de/projects/hocr/ is a link given on page for HOCR where I get a certification warning. A site offering this hocr gives a file called 31.exe which www.prevx.com identifies as malware —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roscolbar ( talk • contribs) 09:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I managed to get the changes to sortable tables described here to functionally work. However, I am now encountering style issues. These are described here. I was hoping someone might take a look. SharkD ( talk) 17:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way I could have account contributions from one account merged into a different account? D.M.N. ( talk) 19:08, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
It would be great to search for articles in multiple categories. There is actually a MediaWiki extension that does this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multi-Category_Search It would be great if that could be implemented.
-- helohe (talk) 20:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
What would also be awesome is to be able to pipe the results of such a search into a list or table so that no manual labor would be involved in maintaining/updating such lists. SharkD ( talk) 22:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Question: are there external sites that track intersections of categories on Wikipedia for particular topics and then serve them to visitors? SharkD ( talk) 22:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
This is a two part proposal:
Suicup ( talk) 06:33, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Brion, could you use HayGo tech for WP mobile instead of HawHaw? -- Wiki 2008 beijing ( talk) 18:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way that I can customize my monobook to always override "NOEDITSECTION" ? – xeno ( talk) 16:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
This cannot be reliably done with javascript because it is impossible to determine (from the HTML) whether the page directly contains the ==sections== you wish to edit or whether they are part of a transcluded sub-page. For example the last "[edit]" link on yesterday's AFD list points to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam Sullivan, not to section 108 of the log page (which doesn't exist).
Also if a page does contain some sections of its own, any transcluded sections would throw off the count for these and make some "[edit]" links point to the wrong section.
[nevermind] — CharlotteWebb 17:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
The wikified content of the message:
Service Temporarily Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
Does anyone know why this is happening? (note, I used <big> '''...'''</big> in place of <h1> or = ... =)-- Thin boy 00 @760, i.e. 17:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
When a user is blocked, he/she/it can still edit his/her/its own talk page right? But if the person insults another user, or threatens another user, on the own talk page, is there any way to prevent the person to edit the own talk page? Now I'm suggesting to enable the editing talk page while being blocked function in the Malay Wikipedia, but an admin brought up this problem of enabling the function. Can anyone please help? Thanks a lot! -- אדמוןד ואודס 自分の投稿記録 17:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. But if the user is an admin, he/she/it have to unblock him/her/itself - this is an abuse of power. -- אדמוןד ואודס 自分の投稿記録 17:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I created Bev Oke as a redirect but it got deleted before I could save the target article. (Fast work!) (It was later undeleted by the deleter.)
You should have been able to recreate the redirect; I don't know why you couldn't. -- NE2 07:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I formatted my first article Greubel Forsey on my user page underthedial and then 'moved' it to Greubel Forsey.
Now I cannot do anything on my user page, without it affecting the article. How can I separate the article from my user page?
IanS ( talk) 07:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Perfect! Thank you very much. IanS ( talk) 10:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Underthedial ( talk • contribs) 10:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Active and correct Template:Coord/link etc. are not being displayed for users who set their skin to "Nostalgia", see Wat Kham Chanot for example.
Being logged out or skin set to "Classic", the link is visible though. What's wrong? -- Scriberius ( talk) 08:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
How would I start a new article whose first letter is lowercase (as is the case with the iTunes article, for instance)? I'm just asking in case I ever need to do so (say for when I find a product spelt in a similar way to "iTunes" that I think deserves an article on Wikipedia). It Is Me Here ( talk) 13:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Open this page, press Save page button directly without any changes, then you will find something horrible...It will blank the page, that's all. So just comment it, don't test it. --
PhiLiP (
talk) 18:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Please see a section on the Obama article's talk page. I have recently cleaned out my cookies and cache, and they still don't collapse on the Obama page, but they do on my Sandbox's talk page. I use IE7. I asked another editor to view the Obama talk page, and it didn't collapse for him either. He uses Firefox. I asked a 3rd person. The Obama page collapsed for him. He uses IceWeasel (a spinoff of Firefox). All of the above would make me think it isn't a cache problem. As both users had never viewed the page before. It probably isn't a browser brand problem because they don't collapse on 2 different brands. I would like some suggestions on what the cause of the problem might be. I have discussed this situation in the irc help room, the main en room, my talk page, and as linked above, a section on the Obama article's talk page.
We have a great opportunity to improve automated orphan tagging. Addbot and SoxBot patrol Special:Lonelypages and UnCatBot patrols Special:Uncategorizedpages. AFAIK, that's it. There have been attempts to expand the scope of orphan-tagging bots but this has been rejected.
The problem is, Lonelypages only goes to 1000 articles, and includes disambig pages, which of course should be orphaned. As a result, the list is lucky to reach "C". If we lifted the 1000 article restriction, Addshore could run Addbot to automatically tag all of the pages caught by Lonelypages, not just the first 1000. (SoxBot is currently having server problems.) This would eliminate a lot of manual tagging.
This is an open bug ( 1000 item limit bug), but it hasn't been worked on for some time, there seems to be resistance to upping the limit for performance reasons, and the developers seem unaware of the orphan-tagging opportunity.
So, the reason for my post: how can I get this back on the table? Shunpiker has written code to address performance problems with Lonelypages, but hasn't been able to get anyone to consider his work for implementation. (Our discussion is here.) Could someone let me know how to get this issue the proper attention? -- JaGa talk 00:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I want to get Image:AHPDevice.jpg into the Commons, where it will be available for an article in the Arabic Wikipedia. How can this be done? Lou Sander ( talk) 01:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Back Alley John page and lack of Google search pickup
I created a page for the late Canadian blues artist Back Alley John. This was developed over a period of days in the last week or so. Initially, when I did a Google search to see how the page came up, Google picked up earlier versions of the page--in other words, the Google search would reference text that was no longer current in the initial listing, but when one clicked on the Google hit, the current Wikipedia version would come up. Now the page doesn't seem to get picked up at all on a Google search. For example, when I search "Back Alley John" combined with "Wikipedia", the Google result is a Wikipedia categorization page, relating to year of death. Have I done something wrong in the setup, such that Google is not picking it up? Raising this in the event that more than one Wikipedia page might be affected by something that is beyond me.
If someone has a moment to address this, that would be very much appreciated.
Dreadarthur ( talk) 18:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Feasible? I'm no developer, but I envision this working something like oversight, only the potential invisibility of the removed edits would depend upon whom you had on your ignore list. I expect you to get on this right away.-- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back ( talk) 04:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually if you are wanting an easy way to "ignore" certain users on your watchlist/recentchanges etc. it might be a helpful feature, especially on smaller projects where edit flooding by one user is actually noticeable. — CharlotteWebb 14:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to organize a few templates on my user page and they seem to have a mind of their own about where they want to appear. A few examples: {{ cent}}, {{ Signpost-subscription}}, {{ User Alternate Acct Name}}, etc... Each of the templates appear at different left-right orientations, and different vertical spacing. I've tried searching and have not found documentation for how to control the placement of the templates. Is there a page that explains this? Any tips would be most welcome. Thanks. -- Jack-A-Roe ( talk) 06:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
A user User talk:Ggd101 asked a question at the help desk. He has uploaded a pdf file Image:Geeta 28-1-.08.pdf and has asked how to add it to a page. The problem I'm having i I can't even seem to download it to my browser. Is this a known problem with PDFs? RJFJR ( talk) 15:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it technically possible to show categories in the Preview Pane? It seems half my edits are correcting my own errors in category names because they can't be previewed.-- Appraiser ( talk) 13:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I actually don't know if this is what others were referring to, but what I had been seeing earlier is still happening. When I create a redirect, I often will categorize it as well. These are typically tiny or historical settlements that I am redirecting to the next larger administrative unit. I will often tag the redirect with {{ R with possibilities}} and a category like Category:Unincorporated communities in Michigan. Previously, both the text of {{ R with possibilities}} and any other categories would display in preview. Lately (and currently) not only does the text of {{ R with possibilities}} not appear at all in the redirect (preview or after saving) as it used to, but also the categories do not appear in the preview, although they do appear after saving. older ≠ wiser 17:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it possible to contrive a means of transcluding an old version of an image, ie. a previously-uploaded one from its history? Easy to get a URL to it, but can I persuade it to show as an image? Splash - tk 14:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Two parts: is there a way to make {{ POTD}} and {{ POTD commons}} display in a similar manner? I can find no way to put them next each other and not have it look weird.
Also, would it be at all easy/possible to create templates that show the Pictures of the Day for other language WP projects, such as fr:Wikipédia:Image du jour (which, btw, is an awesome name)? As far as I can tell, there are 14 PsOTD total, it would be nice to make a dynamic gallery of them. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 07:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC) User:Emil76/test4
I recently added Twinkle to my monobook.js but now I have to press Ctrl + F5 on every page in order to get the extra tabs to load up; every page automatically loads without the TW tabs, and only after a hard refresh (which, again, I have to do every time I click on a page) do they show up. Any advice? It Is Me Here ( talk) 12:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I made a bot request, here, involving the publishing of article/category data in table format on the Web. I would appreciate it if you guys were to take a look at it and critique it on a technical basis. Is such a bot system feasable? Are there good reasons this should not be done? Any and all comments are welcome. Thanks! SharkD ( talk) 15:19, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if I am bringing up an old issue again but is there any plans to replace this? Thanks, GDonato ( talk) 15:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Please help! Can't get uploaded image to show up in the page . . why? I.A.Contino ( talk) 03:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this thread (the first link therein is now here). The threads seem to revolve around template limits, although I can't seem to find a page where template limits were exceeded.
So if anyone has a trusty hacksaw to get through this, here are my questions:
Thanks for any enlightenment! Franamax ( talk) 21:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
{{convert|18|°C|°F}}
costs about five times more than rendering an {{
ambox}}. (I would say that the ambox is a medium complex template.)Yes, it's purely a server-side issue. But no, it's not always going to be served from cache. It will only be served from cache if someone else with the exact same parser-affecting settings as you has viewed it within the cache expiry period, and it hasn't been changed since then. In practice, 90%+ of page views are served from Squid and don't ever hit MediaWiki at all, and a large percentage of the remainder hit the parser cache ― but that's dominated by anonymous users. Logged-in users will see much lower parser cache hit rates, since it needs to store separate copies for separate date formats, separate redlink formats, separate stub thresholds, etc. Chances are good that a typical user will often be viewing pages following links from watchlists, for instance ― so you're viewing it very shortly after the last change was made, and odds are poor that someone else has seen it aside from you.
So basically, even though it's server-side, it will affect rendering time for a significant minority of page views. Before the template limits were put in place, some pages were taking well over ten seconds to render. Even with the limits, George W. Bush takes something like 15 seconds from the time I click the link to when the page starts to render, and the bulk of that is probably parsing time. With no limits on template complexity, it would be easy for careless users to create pages that take minutes to render. Such pages have been created even with the template limits. It's this latency that's the compelling reason for the limits, not so much the fact that it will increase server load. — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 23:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
In addition to the "languages" box in the sidebar, I propose that a new box be added to link to equivalent pages in other projects. For instance, if Wikimedia Commons has a "Village pump", then it would be linked to from this box when viewing this page. SharkD ( talk) 04:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
[[fr:Taxi]]
becomes an interwiki link in the sidebar, while a link like [[wikt:Taxi]]
simply becomes the link
wikt:Taxi. But hey, take a look at the
wikt:Taxi page! Wiktionary apparently has a such a system already!I think the change would encourage general visitors to check out the other projects. (Am I being naive?) SharkD ( talk) 03:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Now at bugzilla. SharkD ( talk) 03:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Some articles fall into several related categories (such as the Category:20th century video games family of categories). I was wondering if it might be a good idea to allow such categories to be replaced with a single link to the parent category in order not to clutter up the article. Thoughts? SharkD ( talk) 11:07, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Added to bugzilla. SharkD ( talk) 03:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I have two or three times now submitted an edit which goes into deep lag and returns the Wikimedia Foundation error screen. During this lag, I can check my watchlist and see the change already registered. Anyone else seeing this glitch? Did someone forget to pay the power bills for one of the servers? Franamax ( talk) 23:52, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I changed the code of my monobook.js file and then removed it and then replaced it. The change does not affect my skin. -- frogger3140 ( talk) 00:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
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Just wondering what this is about. I see it occasionally, but today it's fairly bad. I'm having a hard time viewing my watchlist. By the time you answer this, it may be resolved, but I wanted to know what it was about. -- Veggy ( talk)
3591 seconds! SharkD ( talk) 02:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
What exacly rules do you use by sorting interwiki? I suggested new sorting order for Polish Wikipedia: 1, 2, 3, but I don't know the reason of oryginal sorting order. Or mayby you would like to use new sorting order.
I asked on Help talk:Interlanguage links, but there was no answer. BartekChom ( talk) 12:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone. As you guys did such a great job last time I asked for help, I would like to request another custom link to be put in my sidebar. Namely, I would like it to go in the "interaction" section, be called "New pages" and link to [2]. If someone could make me the appropriate code to do that, that would be very much appreciated. It Is Me Here ( talk) 18:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
addOnloadHook(function(){ addPortletLink ('p-interaction', '/?title=Special:NewPages&limit=500&hidebots=1&hidepatrolled=1', 'New Pages','n-newpages', 'The list of recently created pages'); });
addOnloadHook(function(){
addPortletLink ('p-interaction', wgScript + '?title=Special:NewPages&limit=500&hidebots=1&hidepatrolled=1',
'New pages', 'n-newpages', 'The list of recently created pages', null, document.getElementById('n-recentchanges') );
});
UTC)
Well, I assume that the changes in the Java editor are useful for many. But for non-java editors, the drop-down menu "palettes" are actually a pretty disruptive change - ALL the ones I seem to use are on the "Wiki markup" palette, so you've just added two extra mouse actions to every edit I seem to make. Unhappy with that, to be honest :-(
Couldn't one at least add a "preferences" menu selection as to what palette is selected by default for every user? Thanks. Ingolfson ( talk) 07:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm pleased to announce that Tim has just enabled the Global Blocking extension on all Wikimedia projects.
The global blocking extension allows stewards to block IP addresses and ranges on all of Wikimedia's projects, a tool which has been much-needed to deal with cross-wiki vandalism and spam. Policies for use of global blocking were discussed on meta, and are presently located at < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_blocking>. Global blocks are not currently applied on meta, so that they may be appealed there.
While the code has been quite thoroughly checked, any bugs should be reported at bugzilla - a 'GlobalBlocking' component exists under the 'Extensions' product.
— Werdna • talk 12:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't it automated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumarine ( talk • contribs) 03:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
It's as if when I send an email I have to put 4 tildas at the end otherwise the recipient can't see my e-mail address. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumarine ( talk • contribs) 03:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
LiquidThreads. — Werdna • talk 04:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I looked at Help:Colon trick, and it didn't enlighten me, so I'm asking here. The colon trick "is a method of providing a link to a category or image without adding the page to the category or displaying the image." What, if anything, does it do to use the colon trick on article wikilinks? I've see a few templates (example, {{ subst:spam-warn}} that put the colon in wikilinks to the articles (example, [3]). Does this do (or undo) anything? Phlegm Rooster ( talk) 08:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
[[Category:Ambox templates using deprecated types|Main:Caffè corretto]]
[[Category:Ambox templates using deprecated types|Main:Corretto]]
The above lines are found at the very beginning of Caffè corretto and Corretto respectively. I cannot see them in the source. Where are these phantom words come from? How to fix it? -- Quest for Truth ( talk) 13:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
CSS will be broken for a few minutes during this software upgrade. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- brion ( talk) 23:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Do you know why the External links section is indented in a strange way in Kind of Blue? I can't figure it out. Thanks! — Mattisse ( Talk) 13:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The menu with the insertion options under the editing window seems to have been changed. There is a drop down menu and an extra step to find everything. It works ok at my house, but on my work computer with windows 2000 running internet explorer 6, you cant click on anything to insert it. It only shows what the first drop down menu would and it is just text. I can't get to anything else like greek letters. Can we go back to the old way or fix this one? Grk1011 ( talk) 16:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Several internal pages in Wikipedia space that are maintained by a bot have just appeared in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion, even though nobody tagged them. One of them is Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Chicago articles by quality/1. I can't figure out how this page managed to get itself tagged for speedy deletion. Maybe it's transcluding some template that is missing a <noinclude>? The previous version of this page doesn't have the problem. The only 'person' who ever edits this page is User:WP 1.0 bot. EdJohnston ( talk) 18:58, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! Just created a template ({{ HMS2Deg}}) and noticed some strange behavior:
I've reloaded and cleared cache etc. several times. I even did it just now after composing this to see if it was some kind of db lag. I'm confused. Saintrain ( talk) 22:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Normally in sortable tables, the sorting icon gets treated as if it were a character. I.e., it follows the alignment formatting of the text, and breaks onto new lines as if it were text. I find this very ugly, and as a result have been experimenting with somehow giving the icon its own style rules so that it behaves more like a cell than text (like what you find in many file systems).
You can find my changes to wikibits.js here: here is a long one).
. Simply add the JS code to your "monobook.js" file and load a page with sortable tables (I was wondering what your opinions of these changes are. I think the aesthetic appeal is strong, but I am worried about performance. Is it too slow, or are there other performance issues that make it impractical? I would appreciate it if you would give the script a test-drive in order to provide feedback. Thanks! SharkD ( talk) 21:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if this isn't in the right place, this is only the second time I have come to the village pump. I am curious to know if it would be possible to color code contributing anons and users so that the RC people could tell based on the color of the user's link how many warnings they have recieved in relation to being blocked. Would something like this be possible (or acceptable)? TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Of course, some work on automating vandalfighting within MediaWiki itself could help... — Werdna • talk 05:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it possible to move a page to rename an article (spelling error, title needed capital letters), and then once the page is successfully moved, to delete the old name/page so that on the new page, under the new title, a "redirected from ____ page" does not appear. My reason for this is that when searching in google, the old mispelled name appears, and onc you click on it, it redirects to the new page - I dont want to see the old mis-spelled name anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infocentral2000 ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the way we do redirects doesn't provide Google with the information it needs to update and remove the old title from search results. -- Random832 ( contribs) 20:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Having done some work with templates, I find myself wondering whether it would be possible to create a general 'editor' preference - something that could be toggled so that cleanup templates (particularly inline cleanup templates) could be toggled on and off. this would have two advantages: first, it could default to 'off', so that general readers wouldn't be assaulted by cleanup tags that they don't understand and don't care about. second, it would allow editors to toggle between 'clean' and 'marked-up' versions of the article for easier reading and editing.
This would (obviously) require some work - there would need to be some consistent way to distinguish between cleanup and content templates, and it would need modifications to monobook.js (and maybe the monobook.css, depending on how the templates were hidden), but is the idea feasible enough to be worth putting some thought into? -- Ludwigs2 00:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
table.ambox { display: none; }
table.ambox-style, table.ambox-content { display: none; }
.Inline-Template { display: none; }
Oppose hiding anything that assists our readers in knowing what to trust and what to take with a pinch of salt. Interpreting which Wikipedia pages are reliable and which are full of crap is not a particularly difficult exercise, provided you're presented with all the facts (ie warning boxes, inline fixmes, etc). I'd prefer to go the other way and enable the metadata gadget for all users by default. Happy‑ melon 13:39, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
proposal here: MediaWiki_talk:Sidebar#add_to_navigation 86.44.22.174 ( talk) 22:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to do a merged or side-by-side comparison of the edit history of two accounts? Thanks, -- Clubjuggle T/ C 21:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
02:04, 19 August 08 SharkD m Chronology of console role-playing games ? (?Legend: fix alignment) 02:03, 19 August 08 SharkD Chronology of console role-playing games ? (?Legend: add platform) 02:00, 19 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia ? (?W: changing name of one entry) 01:58, 19 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia ? (?T: changing an entry - renamed page) 01:57, 19 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia ? (?S: various changes) 01:23, 19 August 08 SharkD Talk:Final Fantasy (video game) ? (top) 01:07, 19 August 08 SharkD Template:Sp-contributions-footer/doc ? 01:03, 19 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Coaching ? (Removing link to a page that is now a redirect) (top) 00:59, 19 August 08 SharkD User talk:Simetrical ? (?wikibits.js) 00:58, 19 August 08 John Broughton User:John Broughton/Citation options ? (Adding Q) 00:57, 19 August 08 John Broughton N User:John Broughton/Citation options ? (Goal: document all possible options for citations, and include examples.) 00:18, 19 August 08 John Broughton User:John Broughton ? (?Subpages: Adding link to a new subpage) 23:10, 18 August 08 John Broughton Wikipedia:Sandbox ? (Test)
For over two hours I have been unable to view Wikipedia pages - they appear to start to load, then just take forever and get nowhere (and I haven't had the usual "give us your money" error message). Oddly, by clicking on links to Wikipedia pages from other sites I have been able to view some pages. It has eased up a bit just now, but did that thing of making it look like I was logged out when in fact I was logged in. I am having no problems with other webpages. DuncanHill ( talk) 21:11, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I tweaked my network settings, per the recommendations at dslreports.com, and performance seems to be much better. SharkD ( talk) 06:12, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
When I turn off visual styles for buttons, I've noticed that the catchpa does not display, nor do many pictures. Are pictures, and the catchpa actually buttons? If so, that doesn't seem like it should be. This is on WinXP IE7 70.51.10.38 ( talk) 11:09, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way to add syntax highlighting to the article edit pane? If not, is there a particular software you would recommend for editing articles (Notepad++ doesn't seem to support MediaWiki markup)? Thanks! SharkD ( talk) 06:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there a tool to list category intersections? Thanks! SharkD ( talk) 08:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Direct link to image: 1, should look like 2, instead I get 3. Anyone else see that? Deon555 ( talk) 13:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
to the svg-tag, it shows in firefox. –
Leo Laursen –
✍
⌘ 14:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
parameter to the <svg>
element takes care of that by setting the default namespace to the SVG namespace.
Anomie
⚔ 14:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)Does the left border on Monobook’s sidebar menus bother anyone else? It has bothered me forever.
The line down the side of the window should be clean, but instead it has lumps caused by the border on those side items. While, I’ve fixed it in my own stylesheet – I really think this is a nice simple change that should be pushed to the global style.
All it takes is this:
div.portlet .pBody { border-left: none; }
Thoughts? — Mobius ( talk) 06:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008072820 Firefox/3.0.1
). While I doubt I would notice if it were missing, and don't particularly care if it's removed, it's not true that this wouldn't affect other users. —
Simetrical (
talk •
contribs) 15:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)/* Setting a border to the right of the page content area. */
#content {
border-right: 1px #aaa solid;
}
Hi! Just turned off my clock gadget and CPU usage went from 10-12% to 0%. FF3.0.1 on WinXP. I can use all the cycles I can get! Saintrain ( talk) 19:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
new Date ()
" creates a Date object representing the current time), so that part is already covered. —
Ilmari Karonen (
talk) 22:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)After several months of preparation and testing, as of this writing the new, all-JavaScript implementation of edit tools — the links below the edit box that, in browsers with JavaScript enabled, let you insert all kinds of funny characters and wikimarkup into the edit box — is now turned on for everyone. This has the following advantages:
The new implementation also differs from the old in that the edit tools are grouped into alternative "palettes" that may be selected using a drop-down menu. This may feel unfamiliar and inconvenient to some people used to the old arrangement, but I've been using the new implementation myself for months now, and I find it quite convenient once one gets used to it. The major advantages of the drop-down menu system are that:
Also, as a cherry on top, the new edit tools work also work for the edit summary field. Ever wanted to use an em dash in your edit summary? Just put your cursor into the edit summary box where you want the dash and click the "—" button! Easy!
— Ilmari Karonen ( talk) 18:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
/* Turn off several things for faster page rendering. */
body { /* Turn off the large page background image. */
background: #f9f9f9;
}
#p-logo, /* Turn off the Wikipedia logo. */
#footer { /* Turn off the page footer. */
display: none;
}
#column-one { /* Move the left menus up since no Wikipedia logo now. */
padding-top: 21px;
}
li#pt-userpage { /* Turn off the small user image at top of page. */
background: none;
}
/* Hide stuff */
#minoredit_helplink {display:none}
#wpSummaryLabel {display:none}
#editpage-copywarn {display:none}
#editpage-copywarn2 {display:none}
#editpage-copywarn3 {display:none}
#siteSub {display:none !important} /* Hide sitewide subtitle (From Wikipedia, the...) */
li#pt-userpage {background:none}
Is this what I'm supposed to be seeing? No buttons, no links... nothing. SharkD ( talk) 21:55, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Note that the script will perform better if all for
statements that take the following form:
for (var i=0; i<pp.length; i++)
are changed so that they take this form:
for (var i=0, n = pp.length; i<n; i++)
This goes for all JavaScript, not just this script. The reasoning is that the object pp.length
gets evaluated each time the loop is traversed, when in reality there's no need to evaluate it more than once.
SharkD (
talk) 00:41, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
var a = []; for (var i = 0; i < 1000000; i++) ai = i; // set up array
var t0 = new Date ();
for (var j = 0; j < a.length; j++) ; // loop over array and time it
var t1 = new Date ();
alert(t1.getTime() - t0.getTime());
var a = []; for (var i = 0; i < 1000000; i++) ai = i; // set up array
var t0 = new Date ();
for (var j = 0, l = a.length; j < l; ++j) ; // loop over array (optimized) and time it
var t1 = new Date ();
alert(t1.getTime() - t0.getTime());
document.getElementsByTagName('div').length
), but even in this case I can't get the execution time to go above 0ms for ~10000 objects/iterations.
SharkD (
talk) 06:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)for(var i=a.length-1; i>=0; i--)
when the order of processing doesn't matter or when I can easily enough construct the array "backwards", after I once significantly sped up a slow script with that trick. As for preincrement versus postincrement, perhaps the javascript engine is noticing it's being done in a void context and not generate the temporary.
Anomie
⚔ 03:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
It occurred to me that a guideline on JavaScript optimization could be made. This could include both performance and file size optimizations. However, I thought that it also might be made into an article (or integrated into an existing article, such as JavaScript or Optimization (computer science)). What are your thoughts on this? SharkD ( talk) 11:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
This change makes the code uglier and almost certainly gives a trivial performance difference. Accessing the length of an array in JavaScript is (presumably) a constant-time operation, you're just hitting a member variable. Member variable access may be marginally slower than local variable access, but the difference is trivial here. Code readability is more important.
We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: premature optimization is the root of all evil. ― Donald Knuth
— Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
How do people that want all the "palettes" back to being being viewable all at once accomplish this? I find it annoying having to switch bcak and forth.-- Rockfang ( talk) 10:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Might anyone know?-- Rockfang ( talk) 08:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Since we are in the subject of the character insertion... I've always wondered why one cannot select, say, a space and substitute it with a character (say, a dash) when clicking on the appropriate button. Right now, all it does is insert the character before the selected text, which I have to delete manually. I find the substitution function very useful and it is normally available in all text processors and Internet browsers (or at least the ones I use). Is its unavailability here a technical issue or a conscious choice? Waltham, The Duke of 20:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
<ref>
, <sup>
, <code>
, <!-- -->
, and <blockquote>
. These are most useful in their current state. However, I still believe that most other characters should substitute. So, if there is the ability to apply this feature selectively, and without breaking wikEd, I think it might be a good idea. If it's too much trouble, then forget about it; the improvement I consider is not exactly crucial.
Waltham,
The Duke of 21:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Suddenly the pallette of language characters has disappeared for me, it looks like coinciding with the introduction of this drop-down menu which is announced. The pallette just isn't there where it used to be and there is no drop down menu replacing it where I am informed it should be, below the "Save page" button, . So if it doesnt come back I will have to learn a new way of inserting French/Swedish/German accents and Polish barred l's / tailed a's for example, and Cyrillic letters, since I am fairly multilingual. Below the "Save page" button I have: (1) "Do not copy text from other websites ..." (2) a box which contains "Copy and paste: ..." (3) a box which contains useful things starting with "{{}} {{{}}} | [[]]" (4) "Once you click the Save button..." I have JavaScript enabled. Both my computers (Windows XP) are like this. Is there anything I should check? There must be others with the same problem. I thought being grumpy is only for characters in the "Thomas the Tank Engine" books, but I would like some way of doing what I used to be able to do easily. Please help. P0mbal ( talk) 23:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
What's with the "insert box"? That's the box under the window where we type in changes and so on (where I'm typing this right now) and immediately under the bold face Do not copy text... warning.
It used to have a long list of symbols, including letters with macrons (which I use frequently since I contribute to several articles about Japanese culture), but not any more. Now it has a pull down menu and a list of a few symbols plus a lot of empty square boxes that don't give anything when you select them. Most of the pull-down menu items are just as bad, except for "Wiki markup," which has a list of Wiki markup symbols.
Timothy Perper ( talk) 14:15, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
By default, when editing a talk page, the message MediaWiki:Talkpagetext is displayed at the top. Is there a way to override this on a particular page? Thank you, MSGJ 19:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that some formatting buttons are left out when editing some pages. I believe the strikethrough button should appear on all pages whose title begin with "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion". The strikethrough button allows people to change their comments in a discussion and clearly mark that they just changed their mind. Right now, the only way to do that is by manually adding the <s>...</s> code, something a beginner should not be expected to guess. -- Blanchardb - Me• MyEars• MyMouth- timed 20:35, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
if(wgPageName.indexOf('Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion') != -1)
. Such suggestions should go to
MediaWiki talk:Common.js or
WP:VPP. --
Splarka (
rant) 07:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)I was trying to add an image to Highland Railway - Jones locomotives at the top of the article and used the "section edit" link to edit section 0 (which I believe is enabled by Javascript in each user's preferences).
In this case the link points to Highland Railway - everything after this part of the name is ignored. I ended up adding the image to both articles because it fits with both subjects. I'm sure I've seen this before where certain characters in the title cause it to be cut off. -=# Amos E Wolfe talk #=- 16:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I am working through Category:Motorcycle manufacturers of the United Kingdom correcting errors and adding infoboxes etc. I noticed that the nl wikipedia has a number of stubs (often containing errors) that may have been translated from the original articles - but I'm not sure how best to link to the correct version - if at all. Any suggestions? Tony ( talk) 17:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm looking through image description pages here on Wikipedia, but I cannot actually see the image or picture. When I click on the upload.wikimedia.org link at the bottom of the image, it shows up with a 404 ERROR message. Every time I've looked at an image, I could see it in plain sight on the computer, but for me, somehow doesn't seem to be working. Schfifty Three 21:43, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I third this. L337* P4wn 21:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
File uploading isn't working either. Error message "The upload directory (public) is missing and could not be created by the webserver" is showing. Gr1st ( talk) 22:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Bad update to the configuration system. It's been reverted. -- brion ( talk)
The popups tool is not longer displaying histories of articles or contribution histories of editors when I hover over the appropriate links. These features have worked for me for well over a year but this breakage appears to be persistent for me across multiple browsers. I've looked in the usual places for help or updates that might explain this and done the usual things (cleared cache, restarted, cleared monobook, etc.). Any ideas on what may have changed and, more importantly, how to fix it? -- ElKevbo ( talk) 00:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there a way to set preferences for gadgets? I had used
popupFixDabs=true; popupFixRedirs=true;
in my monobook.js. -- NE2 01:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
"Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in." that is the messege i get whenever i try to contribute. Ironically, i get the same messege when i tried to edit, while i was logged out! ( One last pharaoh ( talk) 20:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC))
I,
One_last_pharaoh have copied that from wikipedia help desk taking Natalya's advice. hope to get helped soon. Thanx in advance.
One last pharaoh (
talk) 17:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Am I imagining it, or has the "go" button in the watchlist page been moved? It used to be next to the namespace box, now it is under that box. Garion96 (talk) 21:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
<br />
tag between the "[ ] Invert selection" text and the [Go] button. Since that line is so short I too would like the [Go] button to be back on the same line as the "Namespace: [all] [ ] Invert selection" part. And it would make it clearer what the button is for.(unindent) The relevant bug is 15172. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 04:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
#mw-watchlist-options{ display:none }
fieldset#mw-watchlist-options {border:none; margin:0; padding:0}
fieldset#mw-watchlist-options legend {display:none}
I've offered US$100 for an enhancement involving linker.php; see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nathan_Larson/Bounties . If I don't hear from anyone in a few days, I'll probably make a different offer; you can also make your own offer. Nathan Larson ( talk) 02:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Is there a preference I can set somewhere to specify which set of characters appear by default in the new dropdown-menu-driven character-selection area just below the editing box? I took a look at Special:Preferences but didn't spot anything.
If there isn't any preference setting, any chance one might be implemented sooner rather than later? Sardanaphalus ( talk) 04:12, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I've seen many variations of <br>, <br />, <br \>, <\br>. Which is preferred? -- SGBailey ( talk) 07:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<br>
is the correct "HTML wikimarkup". But MediaWiki was updated to also understand <br />
some year ago so that it would be easier to cut and paste text from other free sources without having to modify each br tag in those texts.<br \>, <br\>, </br>, </ br>, <\br> and <\ br>
all are faulty variants. And the variant <br/>
is a not recommended variant of the <br />
tag, according to the
World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), since it breaks older web browsers.<br>
tag and not change all our
14 million pages every time the web standards change.<br \>
.<br almost anything here but unpaired quotes and greater than sign>
works fine (note the space after "br"), since most browsers just ignore any invalid stuff in tags. Some older browsers see <br/>
(without space) as the non-existing tag "br/". Using just <br>
is correct HTML, but incorrect XHMTL, since the tag is never closed. and consequently the page is malformed. Concluding: the safest choice is: <br />
, being ok in HTML in old and new browsers and in XHTML. −
Woodstone (
talk) 10:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)<br />some random text up to the next / character
in HTML is equivalent to <br>>some random text up to the next </br> character
due to the "Null End Tags" feature of
SGML (upon which HTML was based), although no major browser supports this. So nothing is truly safe.
Anomie
⚔ 11:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
". −
Woodstone (
talk) 11:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Bold</span>
? I hope you don't seriously mean we should go by their recommendations and stop using the wikimarkup '''Bold'''
, right?<br>
tag. Remember, this is the "encyclopedia that anyone can edit".The wiki source code A<br>B is automatically converted to A<br />B during the rendering process. The trailing / is important only so that the generated HTML can be validated as meeting certain W3C standards. Either the slashed or non-slashed form can be used in wiki text, as they produce the same result. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 15:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<br />
is a job for
SmackBot (
talk ·
contribs ·
blocks ·
protections ·
deletions ·
page moves ·
rights ·
RfA) to do, as and when it edits those pages?
Andy Mabbett |
Talk to Andy Mabbett 15:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
as long as they still work. I personally use <br />
, but <br>
is fine. --
Imperator3733 (
talk) 20:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<br />
and <br/>
before, but, for the record here, I'll just add that I find the technically-correct <br />
a pain to use, thanks to that space between the "r" and the backslash that so helpfully linewraps. I guess I've got used to seeing a backslash there, however -- probably thanks to other HTML tags -- so I continue to use <br/>
, old browsers notwithstanding.
Sardanaphalus (
talk) 21:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi guys. Could you possibly explain how in my contributions page when I click "Global contribs" from the following menu at the bottom of the page:
Subpages · Edit and action count · Interiot · Edit summary usage · Images uploaded · SUL accounts · Global contribs
A full list appears from the various projects I've been contributing to. How does the system know, for example, that I contribute to the Greek Wikipedia since my username is not the same as in the english Wikipedia? Also in the French Wikipedia I use the same username as here, but it could easily have been someone else using the same username. How do all these global projects know that the user is connected to all these other projects for certain? Thanks. Dr.K. ( talk) 17:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
el.wikipedia.org (talk | Block log | Logs | User contributions | Replag: 5 sec | 16 User contributions )
Hi, I'm Peter Brodersen and I'm mostly active at the Danish Wikipedia with technical implementations. I would like to tell about an implementation that could easily be ported to other countries' wikis.
Let's jump to the conclusion: I have utilized data from wikipedia by combining categories of "Missing pictures" and "Geotagged article" to create a list and create a Google Maps Mashup: http://www.findvej.dk/wikipedia?nopic=1 (data from Danish wiki only)
All the markers on the map represent an article where we are missing a good photo.
This could make it easy to get help from people travelling around in Denmark (on their way to job, walking in the woods, geocaching hunting and so on) to see where photos are missing in their area. If people are in the area of missing photos after all they might just be persuaded to take some photos.
The Danish Wikipedia is about to reach 100.000 articles. However a lot of places (airports, universities, parks, shopping malls, train stations and so on) does still not have a photo of the subject. We have tried to raise some awareness of this but it is pretty hard just to ask people to go out and take pictures of random stuff.
People might be helpful or wanting to participate but it is easier to tell volunteers to perform specific tasks instead of more generally ask them just to "participate".
Since GPS is pretty widespread and there are also a bunch of friendly geocachers as an "untapped resource" we would like to create a resource to make people aware of our needs.
We have to start somewhere. At first we would just add articles of different locations and buildings to a category, e.g. "Picture Needed". This was a labour-intensive task. It would also be pretty random which articles we added to this category. And it would require a bit of maintenance to remember to remove this category when pictures are added.
[[Category:Picture Needed]]
For good measure we could want to add __HIDDENCAT__ to our category as not to pollute the articles with these "flags"
We use infobox templates a lot as it is the case here on the English wiki. There are templates for cinemas, airports, rivers, lakes and so on. Most of these templates has a field for adding a picture.
As a rule there is no reason not to have a picture of a given location. Therefore I have updated these location specific templates to add the current page in the category equivalent to "Picture Needed" if no picture is present.
This is pretty easy. Let's say a template take {{{picture}}} as an argument. We would then add the following condition:
<includeonly>{{ #if: {{{picture|}}} | | [[Category:Picture Needed]]}}</includeonly>
The idea is basically to quickly put a lot of existing articles into this category where it tend to make sense and furthermore have a system that maintains itself. Whenever a new article is using this template the it would be added to the category (without any extra work from the author).
In our implementations I have used subcategories such as [[Category:Picture of church needed]]. This category would again belong to [[Category:Picture Needed]]. But this isn't that important.
All Danish articles with geocoding information added in a template resembling {{Coord}}. This template adds the article to a hidden category; "Geocoded Article".
We can then use existing tools to get the intersection between lists of articles in "Picture Needed" and articles in "Geocoded Article". If the last category is not available we could create the list based on which pages transcludes the {{Coord}} template or a similar template.
I'm currently using AutoWikiBrowser to manually create the intersection list but I'm pretty sure this intersection could be created with automated tools - perhaps the API?. The goal is to have this step automated as well.
With the intersection list from Step 3 we can create a map with these articles marked. In my case I have used the Google Maps API myself but I suppose it would be fairly easy to create a KML output with the title and the coordinates of the articles.
Some of our users have requested the list of articles and coordinates as POIs in different GPS device friendly formats. This would be our next task. Simply put, we would like people to recieve data the way they like. We can't expect people to spend time getting familiar with Wikipedia and search functions. But if we just put up GPS files the GPS using community the task is pretty clear: We need pictures of these places. Please take one if you happen to pass any of them.
We now have a process where templates are used for more than just uniform look and content. We also have a system where data added from people in one end of the process (e.g. authors writing a new article) is helping other people in the other end.
There is no extra work for people who already use these templates. Their effort is not being complicated at all by this system. It's baiscally just a way of utilizing any bit existing information.
The goal is to have an automated process that is based on the existing flow and usage of templates and therefore requires no maintenance.
I hope this idea of utilizing existing features and content is interesting for other countries as well.
- Penguin ( talk) 01:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Help! I'm a new user, and am having trouble with an image I uploaded.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1917_-_New_Rockland_Trust_Bank_Bldg_288_Union_St.jpg
(sorry for the URL - I don't know how to do Wikilinks yet)
Why doesn't this image appear on the page? If I make a gif, it shows up. Otherwise, the JPG doesn't seem to work. I've uploaded other JPGs -- most, but not all -- are just fine
Any suggestions welcome!
Pames ( talk) 13:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
<--- Outdent: any news on this one, it's still broken for me in Firefox 2.0.0.16. – ukexpat ( talk) 14:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Question moved from WP:RD/C -- Consumed Crustacean ( talk) 02:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
We constantly encounter issues with page freezing when accessing Wikipedia (English) using Windows 2000 workstations and IE6. Please let me know if this has been escalated before? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.193.1.6 ( talk) 01:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
https://developer.berlios.de/projects/hocr/ is a link given on page for HOCR where I get a certification warning. A site offering this hocr gives a file called 31.exe which www.prevx.com identifies as malware —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roscolbar ( talk • contribs) 09:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I managed to get the changes to sortable tables described here to functionally work. However, I am now encountering style issues. These are described here. I was hoping someone might take a look. SharkD ( talk) 17:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way I could have account contributions from one account merged into a different account? D.M.N. ( talk) 19:08, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
It would be great to search for articles in multiple categories. There is actually a MediaWiki extension that does this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multi-Category_Search It would be great if that could be implemented.
-- helohe (talk) 20:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
What would also be awesome is to be able to pipe the results of such a search into a list or table so that no manual labor would be involved in maintaining/updating such lists. SharkD ( talk) 22:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Question: are there external sites that track intersections of categories on Wikipedia for particular topics and then serve them to visitors? SharkD ( talk) 22:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
This is a two part proposal:
Suicup ( talk) 06:33, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Brion, could you use HayGo tech for WP mobile instead of HawHaw? -- Wiki 2008 beijing ( talk) 18:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way that I can customize my monobook to always override "NOEDITSECTION" ? – xeno ( talk) 16:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
This cannot be reliably done with javascript because it is impossible to determine (from the HTML) whether the page directly contains the ==sections== you wish to edit or whether they are part of a transcluded sub-page. For example the last "[edit]" link on yesterday's AFD list points to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam Sullivan, not to section 108 of the log page (which doesn't exist).
Also if a page does contain some sections of its own, any transcluded sections would throw off the count for these and make some "[edit]" links point to the wrong section.
[nevermind] — CharlotteWebb 17:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
The wikified content of the message:
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Does anyone know why this is happening? (note, I used <big> '''...'''</big> in place of <h1> or = ... =)-- Thin boy 00 @760, i.e. 17:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
When a user is blocked, he/she/it can still edit his/her/its own talk page right? But if the person insults another user, or threatens another user, on the own talk page, is there any way to prevent the person to edit the own talk page? Now I'm suggesting to enable the editing talk page while being blocked function in the Malay Wikipedia, but an admin brought up this problem of enabling the function. Can anyone please help? Thanks a lot! -- אדמוןד ואודס 自分の投稿記録 17:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. But if the user is an admin, he/she/it have to unblock him/her/itself - this is an abuse of power. -- אדמוןד ואודס 自分の投稿記録 17:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I created Bev Oke as a redirect but it got deleted before I could save the target article. (Fast work!) (It was later undeleted by the deleter.)
You should have been able to recreate the redirect; I don't know why you couldn't. -- NE2 07:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I formatted my first article Greubel Forsey on my user page underthedial and then 'moved' it to Greubel Forsey.
Now I cannot do anything on my user page, without it affecting the article. How can I separate the article from my user page?
IanS ( talk) 07:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Perfect! Thank you very much. IanS ( talk) 10:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Underthedial ( talk • contribs) 10:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Active and correct Template:Coord/link etc. are not being displayed for users who set their skin to "Nostalgia", see Wat Kham Chanot for example.
Being logged out or skin set to "Classic", the link is visible though. What's wrong? -- Scriberius ( talk) 08:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
How would I start a new article whose first letter is lowercase (as is the case with the iTunes article, for instance)? I'm just asking in case I ever need to do so (say for when I find a product spelt in a similar way to "iTunes" that I think deserves an article on Wikipedia). It Is Me Here ( talk) 13:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Open this page, press Save page button directly without any changes, then you will find something horrible...It will blank the page, that's all. So just comment it, don't test it. --
PhiLiP (
talk) 18:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Please see a section on the Obama article's talk page. I have recently cleaned out my cookies and cache, and they still don't collapse on the Obama page, but they do on my Sandbox's talk page. I use IE7. I asked another editor to view the Obama talk page, and it didn't collapse for him either. He uses Firefox. I asked a 3rd person. The Obama page collapsed for him. He uses IceWeasel (a spinoff of Firefox). All of the above would make me think it isn't a cache problem. As both users had never viewed the page before. It probably isn't a browser brand problem because they don't collapse on 2 different brands. I would like some suggestions on what the cause of the problem might be. I have discussed this situation in the irc help room, the main en room, my talk page, and as linked above, a section on the Obama article's talk page.
We have a great opportunity to improve automated orphan tagging. Addbot and SoxBot patrol Special:Lonelypages and UnCatBot patrols Special:Uncategorizedpages. AFAIK, that's it. There have been attempts to expand the scope of orphan-tagging bots but this has been rejected.
The problem is, Lonelypages only goes to 1000 articles, and includes disambig pages, which of course should be orphaned. As a result, the list is lucky to reach "C". If we lifted the 1000 article restriction, Addshore could run Addbot to automatically tag all of the pages caught by Lonelypages, not just the first 1000. (SoxBot is currently having server problems.) This would eliminate a lot of manual tagging.
This is an open bug ( 1000 item limit bug), but it hasn't been worked on for some time, there seems to be resistance to upping the limit for performance reasons, and the developers seem unaware of the orphan-tagging opportunity.
So, the reason for my post: how can I get this back on the table? Shunpiker has written code to address performance problems with Lonelypages, but hasn't been able to get anyone to consider his work for implementation. (Our discussion is here.) Could someone let me know how to get this issue the proper attention? -- JaGa talk 00:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I want to get Image:AHPDevice.jpg into the Commons, where it will be available for an article in the Arabic Wikipedia. How can this be done? Lou Sander ( talk) 01:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Back Alley John page and lack of Google search pickup
I created a page for the late Canadian blues artist Back Alley John. This was developed over a period of days in the last week or so. Initially, when I did a Google search to see how the page came up, Google picked up earlier versions of the page--in other words, the Google search would reference text that was no longer current in the initial listing, but when one clicked on the Google hit, the current Wikipedia version would come up. Now the page doesn't seem to get picked up at all on a Google search. For example, when I search "Back Alley John" combined with "Wikipedia", the Google result is a Wikipedia categorization page, relating to year of death. Have I done something wrong in the setup, such that Google is not picking it up? Raising this in the event that more than one Wikipedia page might be affected by something that is beyond me.
If someone has a moment to address this, that would be very much appreciated.
Dreadarthur ( talk) 18:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Feasible? I'm no developer, but I envision this working something like oversight, only the potential invisibility of the removed edits would depend upon whom you had on your ignore list. I expect you to get on this right away.-- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back ( talk) 04:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually if you are wanting an easy way to "ignore" certain users on your watchlist/recentchanges etc. it might be a helpful feature, especially on smaller projects where edit flooding by one user is actually noticeable. — CharlotteWebb 14:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to organize a few templates on my user page and they seem to have a mind of their own about where they want to appear. A few examples: {{ cent}}, {{ Signpost-subscription}}, {{ User Alternate Acct Name}}, etc... Each of the templates appear at different left-right orientations, and different vertical spacing. I've tried searching and have not found documentation for how to control the placement of the templates. Is there a page that explains this? Any tips would be most welcome. Thanks. -- Jack-A-Roe ( talk) 06:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
A user User talk:Ggd101 asked a question at the help desk. He has uploaded a pdf file Image:Geeta 28-1-.08.pdf and has asked how to add it to a page. The problem I'm having i I can't even seem to download it to my browser. Is this a known problem with PDFs? RJFJR ( talk) 15:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it technically possible to show categories in the Preview Pane? It seems half my edits are correcting my own errors in category names because they can't be previewed.-- Appraiser ( talk) 13:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I actually don't know if this is what others were referring to, but what I had been seeing earlier is still happening. When I create a redirect, I often will categorize it as well. These are typically tiny or historical settlements that I am redirecting to the next larger administrative unit. I will often tag the redirect with {{ R with possibilities}} and a category like Category:Unincorporated communities in Michigan. Previously, both the text of {{ R with possibilities}} and any other categories would display in preview. Lately (and currently) not only does the text of {{ R with possibilities}} not appear at all in the redirect (preview or after saving) as it used to, but also the categories do not appear in the preview, although they do appear after saving. older ≠ wiser 17:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it possible to contrive a means of transcluding an old version of an image, ie. a previously-uploaded one from its history? Easy to get a URL to it, but can I persuade it to show as an image? Splash - tk 14:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Two parts: is there a way to make {{ POTD}} and {{ POTD commons}} display in a similar manner? I can find no way to put them next each other and not have it look weird.
Also, would it be at all easy/possible to create templates that show the Pictures of the Day for other language WP projects, such as fr:Wikipédia:Image du jour (which, btw, is an awesome name)? As far as I can tell, there are 14 PsOTD total, it would be nice to make a dynamic gallery of them. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 07:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC) User:Emil76/test4
I recently added Twinkle to my monobook.js but now I have to press Ctrl + F5 on every page in order to get the extra tabs to load up; every page automatically loads without the TW tabs, and only after a hard refresh (which, again, I have to do every time I click on a page) do they show up. Any advice? It Is Me Here ( talk) 12:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I made a bot request, here, involving the publishing of article/category data in table format on the Web. I would appreciate it if you guys were to take a look at it and critique it on a technical basis. Is such a bot system feasable? Are there good reasons this should not be done? Any and all comments are welcome. Thanks! SharkD ( talk) 15:19, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if I am bringing up an old issue again but is there any plans to replace this? Thanks, GDonato ( talk) 15:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Please help! Can't get uploaded image to show up in the page . . why? I.A.Contino ( talk) 03:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this thread (the first link therein is now here). The threads seem to revolve around template limits, although I can't seem to find a page where template limits were exceeded.
So if anyone has a trusty hacksaw to get through this, here are my questions:
Thanks for any enlightenment! Franamax ( talk) 21:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
{{convert|18|°C|°F}}
costs about five times more than rendering an {{
ambox}}. (I would say that the ambox is a medium complex template.)Yes, it's purely a server-side issue. But no, it's not always going to be served from cache. It will only be served from cache if someone else with the exact same parser-affecting settings as you has viewed it within the cache expiry period, and it hasn't been changed since then. In practice, 90%+ of page views are served from Squid and don't ever hit MediaWiki at all, and a large percentage of the remainder hit the parser cache ― but that's dominated by anonymous users. Logged-in users will see much lower parser cache hit rates, since it needs to store separate copies for separate date formats, separate redlink formats, separate stub thresholds, etc. Chances are good that a typical user will often be viewing pages following links from watchlists, for instance ― so you're viewing it very shortly after the last change was made, and odds are poor that someone else has seen it aside from you.
So basically, even though it's server-side, it will affect rendering time for a significant minority of page views. Before the template limits were put in place, some pages were taking well over ten seconds to render. Even with the limits, George W. Bush takes something like 15 seconds from the time I click the link to when the page starts to render, and the bulk of that is probably parsing time. With no limits on template complexity, it would be easy for careless users to create pages that take minutes to render. Such pages have been created even with the template limits. It's this latency that's the compelling reason for the limits, not so much the fact that it will increase server load. — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 23:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
In addition to the "languages" box in the sidebar, I propose that a new box be added to link to equivalent pages in other projects. For instance, if Wikimedia Commons has a "Village pump", then it would be linked to from this box when viewing this page. SharkD ( talk) 04:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
[[fr:Taxi]]
becomes an interwiki link in the sidebar, while a link like [[wikt:Taxi]]
simply becomes the link
wikt:Taxi. But hey, take a look at the
wikt:Taxi page! Wiktionary apparently has a such a system already!I think the change would encourage general visitors to check out the other projects. (Am I being naive?) SharkD ( talk) 03:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Now at bugzilla. SharkD ( talk) 03:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Some articles fall into several related categories (such as the Category:20th century video games family of categories). I was wondering if it might be a good idea to allow such categories to be replaced with a single link to the parent category in order not to clutter up the article. Thoughts? SharkD ( talk) 11:07, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Added to bugzilla. SharkD ( talk) 03:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I have two or three times now submitted an edit which goes into deep lag and returns the Wikimedia Foundation error screen. During this lag, I can check my watchlist and see the change already registered. Anyone else seeing this glitch? Did someone forget to pay the power bills for one of the servers? Franamax ( talk) 23:52, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I changed the code of my monobook.js file and then removed it and then replaced it. The change does not affect my skin. -- frogger3140 ( talk) 00:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)