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Special:Lonelypages is an automatically created list of orphaned pages. Orphan and Lonely are synonymous (they mean the same thing): pages with no parent. That is, pages without wikilinks to them.
Except for disambiguation pages (which ideally should be orphans), this could indicate one of these possibilities:
To remove an entry from this list, boldly find and edit appropriate parent articles to reference the entry. In the latter two cases (above), the article should be deleted.
What's it? Please, someone explain. -- Riceonroute66 16:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed that this seems to be including disambiguation pages. Don't we want disambig pages to be orphans? Can we change this to exclude them?
Agreed, this is making clean up difficult Jschwa1.
I'll third that. -- WOT 18:22, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I agree, there are too many disambig pages on this list, they should be excluded. -- Jared Buck 19:35, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Improperly included disambiguation pages
There's zero value in linking disambig pages (they SHOULD be lonely, all the links should go to the disambiguated ones), and I don't find linking stub pages a high priority activity. It would be more fun to scan the list if the disambiguation and stub pages were omitted. -- Alvestrand 01:44, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I just unorphaned a page and didn't know if I should put up a notice here or if these things got weeded out by bots... The page was the one on antisexualism. I put a link on the page for hedonism.
try deorphanized :) Courtland
I found something on the list that wasn't actually orphaned. Does it automatically get removed from the list, or what?- LtNOWIS 21:11, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC) Oh yeah, also, if an article's in a category, it's not really quite the same as being unlinked. Anyone who goes to an article in the same category is only 2 clicks away from the article!- LtNOWIS 23:19, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I spent 20 minutes looking for something to fix, except someone else has already done the work. How often does this list update? Manning 07:24, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
Pages such as Camp Lazlo Episode Ideas which are protected from recreation also create a false positive on here, as do pages whose only content is Template:wi. ( ESkog)( Talk) 05:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Create Category:Intentionally orphaned page? -- Alvestrand 14:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I tried to follow Special::Lonelypages to the end. It stopped after #1000, with almost nothing but the As listed. Bug or feature? -- Alvestrand 08:23, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, it's limited here's the complete link for all of them at once:
Lonely Pages -- DBEndy 03:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
This page doesnt seem to have been updated in weeks, is this normal? 206.11.112.251 20:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
It would be very helpful if the script that generated the page could also place a link beside each entry that initiates a search for the entry within Wikipedia. For example:
Abdullah Gegic Wikipedia search
Also, the compilation script doesn't seem to exclude entries that have been deleted, i.e. Aaron warters
-- Hooperbloob 03:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
It seems like many of the pages are deleted already. Should I remove them from the list, or strikethrough? Thanks cøøkiə Ξ (talk) 02:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way the list could not include pages with the {{ deletedpage}} tag? -- Fang Aili talk 17:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The disambiguation pages on the list irritated me, because they didn't seem to belong there - nobody SHOULD link to a disambig page.
So rather than grumbling some more, I created User:Alvestrand/Disambig pages with no links. This is enough to get them removed from Special:Lonelypages the next time the list is regenerated - and allows people to work on the REAL orphaned pages.
It helped - for the first time I can remember, the end of the 1000-entry list is now in the B's rather than the A's! -- Alvestrand 05:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what's wrong with the page, but I've mentioned it to Tim Starling (a developer) so hopefully the page will again list orphan articles before too long. -- W.marsh 13:30, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
A bug is filed here. -- Shunpiker 03:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Due to the fact that this special page apparently refreshes on a weekly (if that) basis, it is entirely possible that two people could be working on the same page at the same time, or that a user could subsequently duplicate another user's efforts. To help avoid that, I propose the following procedure:
If anyone has any feedback about this proposal, I welcome it. Thanks. — Carolfrog 03:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Orphan articles belonging to categories created by users, such as a number of entries in Category:African_Footballer_of_the_Year, should be tagged as such or not listed at all. This goes for categories implied by use of user-created templates as well. Of course it does not apply to articles that belong to "administrative" categories like "articles needing cleanup." The reason: The article may exist to "complete the set," deleting it or creating links for the sake of creating links will hurt, not help. This does not apply to "isolated categories," where neither the category nor any of its members are linked from anywhere else. These should remain on the orphan list. Note: The Category:African_Footballer_of_the_Year is a poor example, this whole category needs reorganization. I do think my point is clear though - items in categories should not automatically be assumed to be orphans. davidwr 22:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
does the program prevent pages that have been made into redirects from appearing here--they do appear in OrphanPages? DGG ( talk) 00:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Disambiguation pages should not be orphans, otherwise they would serve no purpose. Disambigs get wikilinked from hatnotes. - Revolving Bugbear 13:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm currently doing some clean-up work, and I've come across 'The talking asshole' which is a pointless redirect with no incoming links, can somebody delete it?
Took me a while - it seems quite obscure to find, but Category:Orphaned articles seems a more useful way to find Lonely Pages than the Special:LonelyPages which as has been mentioned above only seems to let you get to 'B'. I don't know if a link to that could be put in the special page blurb to make that easier to find? - Hunting dog ( talk) 15:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please add a line to the top of the page saying:
Thank you.-- Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 22:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that several articles on the list aren't orphans. How can they be deleted? Kivar2 ( talk) 18:49, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm just wondering - considering all the orphan work the various bots do, is this page useful anymore? Especially considering it only goes to 1000 articles and still includes disambig pages? I'm thinking about starting an AfD for it but thought maybe it does something useful I don't know about. -- JaGa talk 05:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
(Outdent) OK, SoxBot also scans Lonelypages. Another reason to make it comprehensive. Unless I'm missing something, we've a real opportunity to make a big improvement in automated orphan-tagging work.-- JaGa talk 17:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
SoxBot is under development to do mainspace orphan tagging. Which means this can go in one of two directions.
So really it all hinges on SoxBot. I'm going to give this some time, so we can learn the fate of SoxBot, and then push for one of the above courses of action. -- JaGa talk 20:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
What this page needs is simply to ignore articles tagged as disambiguation or orphan. Then we could clear 1000 a day, which would be enough. I too had a tool-server request and sent in an SSH key.. but who knows what happened.. Rich Farmbrough, 13:17 1 September 2008 (GMT).
Most of the dab pages that are (were) not being not picked up here (using {{ hndis}} etc.) are now no longer lonely., so if this page was updated we could do stuff with it. Rich Farmbrough, 15:58 14 October 2008 (UTC).
The page says it hasn't been updated since January 27, 2013. That's almost 11 months ago. How can we get it updated? -- Alexbook ( talk) 01:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello all de-orphaners. Last month Nemo_bis wrote a patch and I pushed it for puppet SWAT deployment. This thing makes the page Special:LonelyPages update once monthly (on the 15th). This will help us find new articles which are orphans, but not marked as such with a template yet. I'm currently going through this month's query and tagging them as much as I can with AWB. This will unfortunately do that the monthly categories will be larger than usual perhaps....Anyways, happy editing! ( t) Josve05a ( c) 21:32, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
I was going through the Orphaned pages list, and I'm getting a lot of articles like Lollygag - "Wikipedia does not currently have an article on "lollygag", but its sister project Wiktionary does" with an offer to go there, seems rather intentional but makes the list rather un-usable for improving articles or fixing things. Denaar ( talk) 03:49, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
This is the talk page for the special page at
Special:LonelyPages. For general information on this and other special pages, see Help:Special page. For recent talk about special pages, see Recentchangeslinked/Specialpages discussion |
Special:Lonelypages is an automatically created list of orphaned pages. Orphan and Lonely are synonymous (they mean the same thing): pages with no parent. That is, pages without wikilinks to them.
Except for disambiguation pages (which ideally should be orphans), this could indicate one of these possibilities:
To remove an entry from this list, boldly find and edit appropriate parent articles to reference the entry. In the latter two cases (above), the article should be deleted.
What's it? Please, someone explain. -- Riceonroute66 16:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed that this seems to be including disambiguation pages. Don't we want disambig pages to be orphans? Can we change this to exclude them?
Agreed, this is making clean up difficult Jschwa1.
I'll third that. -- WOT 18:22, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I agree, there are too many disambig pages on this list, they should be excluded. -- Jared Buck 19:35, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Improperly included disambiguation pages
There's zero value in linking disambig pages (they SHOULD be lonely, all the links should go to the disambiguated ones), and I don't find linking stub pages a high priority activity. It would be more fun to scan the list if the disambiguation and stub pages were omitted. -- Alvestrand 01:44, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I just unorphaned a page and didn't know if I should put up a notice here or if these things got weeded out by bots... The page was the one on antisexualism. I put a link on the page for hedonism.
try deorphanized :) Courtland
I found something on the list that wasn't actually orphaned. Does it automatically get removed from the list, or what?- LtNOWIS 21:11, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC) Oh yeah, also, if an article's in a category, it's not really quite the same as being unlinked. Anyone who goes to an article in the same category is only 2 clicks away from the article!- LtNOWIS 23:19, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I spent 20 minutes looking for something to fix, except someone else has already done the work. How often does this list update? Manning 07:24, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
Pages such as Camp Lazlo Episode Ideas which are protected from recreation also create a false positive on here, as do pages whose only content is Template:wi. ( ESkog)( Talk) 05:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Create Category:Intentionally orphaned page? -- Alvestrand 14:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I tried to follow Special::Lonelypages to the end. It stopped after #1000, with almost nothing but the As listed. Bug or feature? -- Alvestrand 08:23, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, it's limited here's the complete link for all of them at once:
Lonely Pages -- DBEndy 03:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
This page doesnt seem to have been updated in weeks, is this normal? 206.11.112.251 20:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
It would be very helpful if the script that generated the page could also place a link beside each entry that initiates a search for the entry within Wikipedia. For example:
Abdullah Gegic Wikipedia search
Also, the compilation script doesn't seem to exclude entries that have been deleted, i.e. Aaron warters
-- Hooperbloob 03:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
It seems like many of the pages are deleted already. Should I remove them from the list, or strikethrough? Thanks cøøkiə Ξ (talk) 02:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way the list could not include pages with the {{ deletedpage}} tag? -- Fang Aili talk 17:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The disambiguation pages on the list irritated me, because they didn't seem to belong there - nobody SHOULD link to a disambig page.
So rather than grumbling some more, I created User:Alvestrand/Disambig pages with no links. This is enough to get them removed from Special:Lonelypages the next time the list is regenerated - and allows people to work on the REAL orphaned pages.
It helped - for the first time I can remember, the end of the 1000-entry list is now in the B's rather than the A's! -- Alvestrand 05:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what's wrong with the page, but I've mentioned it to Tim Starling (a developer) so hopefully the page will again list orphan articles before too long. -- W.marsh 13:30, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
A bug is filed here. -- Shunpiker 03:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Due to the fact that this special page apparently refreshes on a weekly (if that) basis, it is entirely possible that two people could be working on the same page at the same time, or that a user could subsequently duplicate another user's efforts. To help avoid that, I propose the following procedure:
If anyone has any feedback about this proposal, I welcome it. Thanks. — Carolfrog 03:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Orphan articles belonging to categories created by users, such as a number of entries in Category:African_Footballer_of_the_Year, should be tagged as such or not listed at all. This goes for categories implied by use of user-created templates as well. Of course it does not apply to articles that belong to "administrative" categories like "articles needing cleanup." The reason: The article may exist to "complete the set," deleting it or creating links for the sake of creating links will hurt, not help. This does not apply to "isolated categories," where neither the category nor any of its members are linked from anywhere else. These should remain on the orphan list. Note: The Category:African_Footballer_of_the_Year is a poor example, this whole category needs reorganization. I do think my point is clear though - items in categories should not automatically be assumed to be orphans. davidwr 22:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
does the program prevent pages that have been made into redirects from appearing here--they do appear in OrphanPages? DGG ( talk) 00:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Disambiguation pages should not be orphans, otherwise they would serve no purpose. Disambigs get wikilinked from hatnotes. - Revolving Bugbear 13:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm currently doing some clean-up work, and I've come across 'The talking asshole' which is a pointless redirect with no incoming links, can somebody delete it?
Took me a while - it seems quite obscure to find, but Category:Orphaned articles seems a more useful way to find Lonely Pages than the Special:LonelyPages which as has been mentioned above only seems to let you get to 'B'. I don't know if a link to that could be put in the special page blurb to make that easier to find? - Hunting dog ( talk) 15:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please add a line to the top of the page saying:
Thank you.-- Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 22:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that several articles on the list aren't orphans. How can they be deleted? Kivar2 ( talk) 18:49, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm just wondering - considering all the orphan work the various bots do, is this page useful anymore? Especially considering it only goes to 1000 articles and still includes disambig pages? I'm thinking about starting an AfD for it but thought maybe it does something useful I don't know about. -- JaGa talk 05:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
(Outdent) OK, SoxBot also scans Lonelypages. Another reason to make it comprehensive. Unless I'm missing something, we've a real opportunity to make a big improvement in automated orphan-tagging work.-- JaGa talk 17:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
SoxBot is under development to do mainspace orphan tagging. Which means this can go in one of two directions.
So really it all hinges on SoxBot. I'm going to give this some time, so we can learn the fate of SoxBot, and then push for one of the above courses of action. -- JaGa talk 20:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
What this page needs is simply to ignore articles tagged as disambiguation or orphan. Then we could clear 1000 a day, which would be enough. I too had a tool-server request and sent in an SSH key.. but who knows what happened.. Rich Farmbrough, 13:17 1 September 2008 (GMT).
Most of the dab pages that are (were) not being not picked up here (using {{ hndis}} etc.) are now no longer lonely., so if this page was updated we could do stuff with it. Rich Farmbrough, 15:58 14 October 2008 (UTC).
The page says it hasn't been updated since January 27, 2013. That's almost 11 months ago. How can we get it updated? -- Alexbook ( talk) 01:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello all de-orphaners. Last month Nemo_bis wrote a patch and I pushed it for puppet SWAT deployment. This thing makes the page Special:LonelyPages update once monthly (on the 15th). This will help us find new articles which are orphans, but not marked as such with a template yet. I'm currently going through this month's query and tagging them as much as I can with AWB. This will unfortunately do that the monthly categories will be larger than usual perhaps....Anyways, happy editing! ( t) Josve05a ( c) 21:32, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
I was going through the Orphaned pages list, and I'm getting a lot of articles like Lollygag - "Wikipedia does not currently have an article on "lollygag", but its sister project Wiktionary does" with an offer to go there, seems rather intentional but makes the list rather un-usable for improving articles or fixing things. Denaar ( talk) 03:49, 3 August 2023 (UTC)