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First few paragraphs of this article are a direct copy paste from amazon's website for the author: http://www.amazon.com/Dara-Wier/e/B001K7QXP8
The Diff: [ [1]] Removed on the grounds of poor sources and opinion based nature of potentially libelous claims. ((Salon.com Laura Miller)(Partially sourced by user review opinion from amazon)(Editorial review from amazon) Furthermore, The New York Times sourced edit was purely based on the author's opinion, and attacked personal attributes of the subject in question, rather than reviewing the actual writing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsax42 ( talk • contribs) 07:09, 7 March 2012 (UTC)-- ~~hsax42~~
Amazon.com user opinion reviews are an insufficient source and the opinions expressed there are irrelevant. The New York Times is a reliable source, however the content of the review falls under the defamation policy of wikipedia. Please refer to the wikipedia help page for Biographies of Living Persons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsax42 ( talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
There is a dispute as to whether Bruce Bartlett's view on the Reagan's role in US debt increase is properly interpreted in section Changes in debt by presidential terms of the article History of the United States public debt:
Bruce Bartlett, former domestic policy adviser to President Ronald Reagan and Treasury official under President George H.W. Bush, attributes the increase in the national debt since the 1980s to the policy of " starve the beast" and an aversion for tax increases.
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My objection to including disputed sentence is that it misrepresents Bruce Bartlett's views. Sentence implies that Bartlett thinks that all three Republican presidents since the 1980s followed the policy of "starve the beast" and were agains any tax increases. But that is misrepresenting Bartlett's view. For example he says: "Liberals believe that enactment of the 1981 tax cut marked the end of Republican opposition to deficits. But in fact Reagan was much more orthodox than either they or most conservatives think. Beginning in 1982, he supported higher taxes almost every year of his presidency." [2] and in this article he also praises George H.W. Bush: "Budget experts now agree [that George H.W. Bush's budget deal] deserves much of the credit for the subsequent improvement in the deficit, which shrank from 4.7 percent of GDP in 1992 to virtual balance in 1997 and gave us budget surpluses from 1998 to 2001. Economist Robert Reischauer, director of the Congressional Budget Office when the 1990 budget deal was enacted, told me it was “the foundation upon which the surpluses of the 1998 to 2001 period were built.” [...]the elder Bush will remain the last Republican who took fiscal responsibility seriously." -- Vision Thing -- 09:58, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
I believe that to a large extent our current budgetary problems stem from the widespread adoption of an idea by Republicans in the 1970s called 'starve the beast'. It says that the best, perhaps only, way of reducing government spending is by reducing taxes. While a plausible strategy at the time it was formulated, STB became a substitute for serious budget control efforts, reduced the political cost of deficits, encouraged fiscally irresponsible tax cutting and ultimately made both spending and deficits larger.
The reference to me being mostly descended from Europeans is racist and should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.169.139.172 ( talk) 11:17, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Article says he owns an AHL franchise as opposed to the Pittsburgh Penguins of the NHL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.222.112.250 ( talk) 17:34, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
There's an interesting discussion going on at Deletion Review over whether an article about a prominent raw foods advocate and spiritual teacher should be created or continue being deleted. Of note, there is a controversial section in the article which has raised questions about BLP issues. The subject also requested deletion of the prior article in an Afd. I would appreciate any thoughtful comments or criticism, especially in the area of your speciality, which is the care taken (or not taken) to approach the BLP issues in the article. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 17:52, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
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2 biographies for Orrin H. Pilkey are on Wikipedia. The one with the platypus as a photo, and information related to the platypus, is incorrect and should be removed from Wikipedia. The one with Professor Pilkey's photo seems to be OK. How do we get rid of the incorrect one with all of the platypus references and photo? — Preceding
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Vladimir Putin ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This article is patently biased. Criticism of Putin is mentioned with a dismissive tone when it is mentioned at all. Attempts by several editors to fix this problem - including marking it as POV - have been undone by a single editor, who seems intractable. As this article is featured on the front page right now, this seems like an important matter to resolve. Since discussions on the talk page have gone nowhere, I thought I should report it here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robnormal ( talk • contribs) 21:08, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
There is no David Lee Abbott listed as a California State Wrestling Champion or medalist with that name. The only medalist with the last name of Abbot was in 1985 (Mark Abbott 1985 105 lbs., 5th place). Tank Abbott was not a CA State High School wrestling Champion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.160.218.72 ( talk) 22:51, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Currently linked from the main page In the News section. I think that the article is accurate in its essentials, but it could use a NPOV scrub, as it currently reads more like a tabloid piece than an encyclopedia article. On my way to work; I'll address it myself in a few hours if no one has been able to look at it. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 14:49, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Pattie Boyd ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Two thirds of this BLP is dedicated to her marriages to George Harrison and Eric Clapton and contains copy like this:
Isn't this way too much detail and undue weight? Can you look at the article and comment on how much of the existing text should be removed. Thanks.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:56, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Most of the sources in this article does not provide the info it claims they do AND Gjøran Sæther is not at all known by his own name. The article should really be moved to his artist name (where he release everything) which is Proteque. Every reference to him on the web and in record stores is to Proteque not Gjøran Sæther. It is also lacking a lot of things but that should be added on the Proteque page not a Gjøran Sæther page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.90.178.98 ( talk) 17:25, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Steve Robinson is not retired, he retired the JCW championship belt. He is healed and wrestling. He appeared in a match against Kongo Kong february 24th wrestling for IWA midwest. HE IS NOT RETIRED! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.178.44.193 ( talk) 22:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
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Arnold Resnicoff is semi-autobiographical and imo overlong and unduly hagiographic. If this is not an unduly harsh judgment would an experienced editor be willing to give it the wikification it needs please? Springnuts ( talk) 10:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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This is a blatantly self-serving, almost entirely unsourced "promotion page" created by the subject, as he himself has taken to boasting all over social media. There is no support at all for his long list of claims of television network associations, most of which are untrue and even most of the references he does provide are to small newspaper websites where their info was gathered by interviewing him. As an active member of the comedy community in Calgary, I can attest to the fact that most of the claims on this page are blatantly false, and Mr. LaBelle doesn't fall anywhere NEAR in the notability range to be considered eligible for a wikipedia page. Furthermore, the page contains several inflamatory, unvarifiable and often blatantly silly comments (such as describing his comedy style as "a mix between Def Jam and Chuck E. Cheese") which are not only not informational, but entirely opinion-based and, in that case, completely impossible.
I considered editing the page myself, but given Mr. LaBelle's well known persistance, it would no doubt all be edited right back and, as stated before, there's next to no evidence that he is relevent enough to warrant the page to begin with, so it would be far more prudent to just have it removed all together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.48.25.58 ( talk) 14:28, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Boomer Castleman ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Boomer's Wiki article states that he was a TX singer-songwriter. He in fact, still is - he's playing just before my band from 5-8 tonight in Austin. Please don't say was say is, as in , he IS still around. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.253.79.10 ( talk) 21:56, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Arnold Schwarzenegger ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
An editor disputes my addition of mention in the lead section of Scharzenegger's son with his housekeeper, which he and the housekeeper kept secret from the boy and Scharzenegger's wife Maria Shriver for 14 years. However, Schwarzenegger's other four children with Shriver are mentioned in the lead section. 1) Very notable given Schwarzenegger's position as former Governor of California and celebrity. 2) At the very least, WP shouldn't continue the practice of "non-acknowledgement" of children born out of wedlock (in this case, mention was made only in a subsection titled "Marital separation". Please see Talk:Arnold_Schwarzenegger#"Secret son" mentioning in lead section. Thank you, Facts707 ( talk) 00:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Naseer Shamma ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Very long detailed article with only one source. I've found some copyvio and suspect there's more. Dougweller ( talk) 10:49, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Andrew Gowers ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I am the subject of the article Andrew Gowers, which contains a material inaccuracy. I attempted to correct this by removing the inaccurate statement, but a user has reinstated it. Please could you help me correct this problem. The article as currently published states that I resigned as Editor of the Financial Times after losing a libel case with Collins Stewart. This is not true in two respects, as any examination of the public record will confirm. I left the FT by mutual agreement with the owner Pearson plc in November 2005. The libel suit mentioned in the article was settled in January 2006.. It is therefore not true to say as the article does that I resigned after losing the lawsuit. I resigned before the lawsuit was settled, and the lawsuit was not lost as it did not go to court. Indeed, my resignation had nothing to do with the lawsuit.. Please delete the reference to the lawsuit from this article as it is simply misleading. Thank you. Andrew Gowers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewgowers ( talk • contribs) 18:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Lynette Nusbacher ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
An editor has repeatedly been adding personal medical information to this article sourced only the The Sun, a well-known sensationalist tabloid newspaper. My explanations (in edit summaries and here) have fallen on deaf ears so it would be good if someone else could get involved. Phil Bridger ( talk) 18:24, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Looks like my response to your message has fallen on deaf ears. Your removal of content is pretty much vandalism. The information is correct, get over it... Aunty-S ( talk) 20:25, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
I think you just dont like the idea that Dr. Nusbacher is biologically a man. Here are a few examples of Transgender politicians and comedians where reference is made to their sex change in the article - Enza Anderson, Jamie Lee Hamilton, Vladimir Luxuria, Bethany Black, Ian Harvie. Aunty-S ( talk) 20:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to check back here. There should at least be 1 reference made, I personally found it confusing when looking up "Dr. Nusbacher" after watching a documentary she was in, and only finding an article on Lyndette, not Aryeh Nusbacher. And also in this documentary, Nusbacher was quite clearly a man. Took me a while to realise it was the same person. Btw, Sex Reassignment Surgery is cosmetic only, Nusbacher is still biologically male. Aunty-S ( talk) 21:23, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
The countless documentaries that Nusbacher appears in as male are reliable sources. I think we should compromise and make reference to Lynette's former name at least, someone has recently removed her former name from the article entirely. (Green Halcyon here, and probably shouldnt be, account is blocked for 24 hours)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.76.242.24 ( talk) 11:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, but why was it removed from the opening sentence and info box. People searching for "Aryeh Nusbacher" are likely to miss it anywhere else in the article. Here's a link to IMDB stating that Nusbacher's birth name, it was removed by an editor claiming that "Aryeh" was incorrect ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1655167/). (Green Halcyon Sock Puppet) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.76.242.24 ( talk) 11:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Mentioning that the subject underwent sex reassignment is perhaps too private a matter to include in the article. Though I agree that there should at least be a mention of her former name in the infobox. The subject is far more well known under the name "Aryeh Nusbacher". And if that IMDB link mentions it, why shouldnt wikipedia? IrishLad1916 ( talk) 12:21, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
But there is nothing private about mentioning that her former name was Aryeh, where its mentioned in the article could easily be confused for a pseudonym IrishLad1916 ( talk) 12:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Biljana Srbljanović ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Several serbian tabloids ( Kurir, Alo! and telegraf.rs) reported that she was caught while buying cocaine. No serious (not tabloid) newspaper or television confirmed those reports. Srbljanović later denied all this, claiming that she is victim of two tabloids. It is worth noting that Biljana Srbljanović is active in political life, and that elections will soon be held in Serbia, so this could be part of the election campaign of her opponents (Serbian right wing nationalists).
The IP editors for days are entering these tabloid allegations as proven fact. The current controversies section is about 50% of the article, maybe more. Every tabloid article is now in the controversies section, and some of the text in that section is unsourced. Please, will someone experienced look in this article. Thanks.-- В и к и T 18:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Patrick McGorry ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Re Patrick McGorry I have just discovered that this page now contains inaccuracies about me personally in two respects. Firstly I have not advocated for the use of antipsychotics in pre-psychotic psychosis. In fact I have carried out research that has shown that these medications are NOT required in this stage of illness and have led the authorship of clinical practice guidelines whcih have stated for many years that such medications should not be used in this stage. The question of how to treat such patients remains in clinical equipoise and hence research is ethically still valid to clarify the sequence of treatments in the early stages of psychosis. Obviously risk/benefit considerations which critics are concerned about must be the central guide to the use of any interventions. The second issue relates to the case of Geoff Stuart which focused on his role in research which was led by colleagues at the University of Melbourne and in which I was involved as one only of the investigators. It is hardly a controversy from my point of view since the allegations that Dr Stuart made in respect of myself were not upheld and as the entry correctly reports I was fully vindicated and in fact cleared of any misconduct. I therefore regard it as inappropriate to say the least that this entry has been included and wonder who is responsible for its addition and what relationships and conflicts of interest they may have. These two errors go the issue of reputation and I would like them corrected immediately. Patrick McGorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmcgorry ( talk • contribs) 11:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Ali Paya ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
To whom it may concern Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to let you know that your recent revised entry on Ali Paya contains many factual errors and is written in a way which deliberately disseminates misinformation about him. While your earlier entry on Professor Paya was brief and not very informative it did not contain inaccurate and malicious information. The recent entry, in contrast, seems to have been written with the aim of portraying him in a particularly negative light.
Below is a list of some of the inaccurate details which can be found in your recent entry:
Professor Paya, contrary to what is stated in the recent entry, is first and foremost a philosopher and scholar and not a translator and writer. You can simply check this fact by a quick google search on him. In his capacity as a philosopher and academic scholar he has produced several books and more than 50 scholarly papers in both Persian and English. Some of his papers are translated into German and Arabic.
In your recent entry on Professor Paya the following titles are mentioned among Professor Paya’s books and/or papers published in anthologies: Models of Explanation (2003), Islam and Political Order: Muslim Reflections on Democracy, Secularism and Law (2003). However, Professor Paya has not published any book with the title of Models of Explanation. Moreover, there is no anthology entitled Islam and Political Order: Muslim Reflections on Democracy, Secularism and Law.
The claim about alleged plagiarism was part of a calculated smearing campaign to discredit Professor Paya. Fardin Jahanbin is a pseudonym. Moreover, Professor Paya in his reply to the alleged claim clearly demonstrated that the claim is factually false and baseless. Surprisingly, in your recent entry there is no link to Professor Paya’s rebuttal. The only link is to the original claim by ‘Jahanbin’.
The following is a more accurate biography of Professor Ali Paya which could be used to replace the existing inaccurate entry in Wikipedia:
Professor Ali Paya is a contemporary Iranian philosopher and scholar. He has studied in Sharif University of Technology (Electronics), University of Tehran (Philosophy), University of London (Philosophy of Science) and has obtained his PhD from the University College London. He is Associate Professor of Philosophy at the National Research Institute for Science Policy (NRISP) in Iran and Senior Visiting Research Fellow at the Department of Politics and International Relations, University of Westminster in the UK.
Professor Paya has published many books as well as scholarly papers in national and international academic journals and anthologies in both Persian and English. Some of his papers are translated into Arabic and German.
His most recent and forthcoming books and papers include: Analytic Philosophy and Philosophical Analysis: Problems, Prospects and Applications (2012) (In two volumes. The first volume of this book was the winner of the title of best philosophical book of the year 2005 in Iran); Habermas and Iranian Intellectuals, (with M. Ghaneirad, 2012), Socio-Ethical Consequences of Convergent Technologies (with R. Kalantarinezhad, 2011); Iraq, Democracy, and the Future of Muslim World (with John Esposito, Routledge, 2011); Technology, Culture and Ethics (2009); “How indigenous are ‘indigenous sciences’? The Case of ‘Islamic Sciences’”, in Asia, Europe, and the Emergence of Modern Science: Knowledge Crossing Boundaries (Palgrave, 2012); “The Misguided Conception of Objectivity in Humanities and Social Sciences”, in The Crisis of the Human Sciences False Objectivity and the Decline of Creativity (2011); and “Futures Studies in Iran: Learning through Trial and Error” (With H. Shoraka, 2010). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hesamuddin ( talk • contribs) 14:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Charles Krauthammer ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I found a minor error in the biography of physician and political commentator Dr Charles Krauthammer. The bio gives the impression that Krauthammer no longer practices psychiatry. In fact, he maintains a medical office and is a fully licensed physician in the District of Columbia, where his office is located.
My source is the records of the DC Board of Medical Registration.
The Very Rev. Daniel Beegan, D.Min. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FriarDaniel ( talk • contribs) 14:58, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Brother Stair ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
There is alot of "smear campaigning" stuff in this article, please remove all of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brother77 ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 11 March 2012 (UTC) — Brother77 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Connie Francis ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The photo to the upper right of this article is not of Connie Francis, but of Connie Stevens. Should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MSlibraryghost ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
I thought there was a copyright problem, but it was actually a Flickr problem. In any event, as User:January noted on the Francis Talk page, the picture was mistakenly labeled as being Connie Francis, when it was in fact Connie Stevens, and it has been renamed. It is still awaiting review for copyright, but the who's-picture-is-it confusion has been resolved.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:08, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Hani Al-Mazeedi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This is a clear vanity page and they are even using it to announce future public events and conferences. None of this is newsworthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.9.119 ( talk) 00:26, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
South Ronaldsay child abuse scandal ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The following link is an outdated and untrue reflection of my character and my family. Please could someone help in the removl of this information.South Ronaldsay child abuse scandal - Wikipedia, the free ...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Ronaldsay_child_abuse_scandalCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo May Willsher, one of the children from "family W", later said: ... In September 2006 it was announced that May Willsher, who had been 8 years old when she was ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blue54321 ( talk • contribs) 09:49, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Someone has moved this page from Nazir Ahmad (Burewala resident) to Nazir Ahmad (murderer). As noted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nazir Ahmad (Burewala resident), this is problematic from a BLP standpoint (reliable sources haven't reported that he was convicted of murder). The move should be reverted, and the page move protected. Andjam ( talk) 12:30, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Rinat Akhmetov ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Looks to be a headache in the making; just about every paragraph has some accusation of criminal activity - and it is littered with dubious sourcing and what looks like OR (or some sort of soap boxing). I'm not going to have time to work on this but it needs an urgent clean up! -- Errant ( chat!) 17:37, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
I am not sure if this should be put here and if I did it at the right time but I started yesterday an discussion on the talkpage of the article in which I advice to restructure the article. I think a restruction (as I have in mind) should solve most "neutrality" content issues.... Hope I am not making things more complicated now.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 00:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
There is an issue over on the Harrison Ford article. An editor is insisting that Harrison Ford is Jewish and is repeatedly adding the article to the category "Jewish Actors". Harrison Ford has some Jewish ancestry on his mother's side, though his father was Irish Catholic. Harrison Ford himself has never publicly stated he follows any religion or confirmed he follows a Jewish lifestyle or Jewish customs in any way. In a TV interview (Inside The Actors Studio 2.40 mins in), he did make a humorous comment relating to his ancestry when asked if his mixed family background ever influenced him as a person and as an artist. He said that "as a man I always felt Irish, as an actor I always felt Jewish". He was laughing as he said it and the audience applauded him for making such a funny and clever answer, though it is no indication to mean that he actually is Jewish. It is certainly correct to include Harrison Ford in the "Americans of Jewish Descent" category because that is factually accurate and can be proven, but to actually state he is Jewish when he has never confirmed it himself is clearly a violation of WP:BLP because it is making assertions about his personal beliefs and lifestyle that he himself has never actually publicly confirmed. Kookoo Star ( talk) 02:27, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Geoffrey O'Brien ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
According to the article, Geoffrey O'Brien was "savagely beaten" by police in November, 2011. This is not merely contentious, it's transparently false and libellous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.0.99.94 ( talk) 18:39, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Setti Warren ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Piece of text was inserted with inaccurate information that was not substantiated by the article that it referenced. Therefore, it was removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Turtleman70 ( talk • contribs) 19:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Germán Trejo ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
We've got one of the article subject's college buddies trying to whitewash the article to replace information about bankruptcy proceedings with a list of all his various volunteer gigs and awards, most of which are, of course, uncited or insufficiently cited. See here, here, and here.
I'm just hoping I can get some more eyes on the article to keep the snowjob from staying active too long whenever it goes up next. Thanks. — Bdb484 (talk) 19:07, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Bar-Kays ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hello!! I am very disappointed you left out an important band member and SONG WRITER for many of the Bar-Kays songs - Charles, "Scoop" Allen, who just passed away on 3/9/12. He is MY brother in law, married to my sister. He was the trumpet player on MANY of their albums and I am frankly offended that you left him out considering he is on most of their albums in the 70s. I spoke to Lloyd yesterday as well, who called to extend his condolences and find out when the services are. Please go and do your research and add all the contributions that Scoop did for this band! Thank you, Yvonne LaCour
see my FB page - Yvonne Couty LaCour where you will see info on Charles' passing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creolewoman ( talk • contribs) 02:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Charlene M. Proctor ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
From what I have looked into, this article's
I can't take this any further down the WP:BEFORE due to limitations from a chronic illness (I'm behind on my own user talk page, but I keep finding edits while idly browsing!) so would someone see if attention to the Proctor article is warranted? I couldn't do anything thorough because my eye muscles...ah, that's a long story AND I've already explained I'm limited.
Uh, to re-focus on the point while trying be fair all around, I only did a little bit of skimming in these areas, however I did find potential problems things quickly, and I likely won't be able to find my way back here in a timely fashion. So, please take this completely over for me & from me if you think it is needful.
Thanks in advance, -- Geekdiva ( talk) 19:29, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Casey Hudson ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
this article has been recently repeatedly vandalized and might need a temporary lock on editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.128.144.182 ( talk) 21:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Numerous edits made to an article all based on self-published/anon comments made on a forum thread. While other sources have repeated the extremly contentious information, their source for the information is that forum thread - which continually used as a "reference" in this article. 2005 ( talk) 07:38, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Since when are we hypercritical of what reliable secondary sources use as their primary sources? You can't just assume out of hand that Poker News did no due diligence here. And the idea that a professional gambler who lost a $3 million dollar a year endorsement deal now can't pay off his bets isn't exactly a "contentious" one. It's akin to "coal miner gets trapped in a coal mine" -- gamblers go broke all the time, it doesn't require some huge suspension of disbelief. More reliable sources on this are just going to keep popping up, [12] so you are racing the tide here. -- Kendrick7 talk 21:44, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Kendrick, I am a random admin who also happens to be active in the WP:POKER project. So, I know a little about the sources/issues you are addressing. 2005 and I, typically disagree on a lot of issues. But right now, the inclusion of this information in the article IS a violation of BLP. The news sources are not stating the Edog actually owes the money, they are covering the flap and the constroversy sparked by a few people. Thus, even though they are covering the 2+2 forum hubbub, it fails to meet our criteria for BLP. 2005 has the right of it... in order to include this info, we would need a reliable source that says that Edog does in fact owe this money and doesn't repay his debts in a timely manner. Not a news report that is reporting on some forum posters allegations. Controversial material has a high threshold. (Note: 2005 can, per BLP, keep reverting your edits indefinitely. Continual inclusion of the material, however, will result in your being blocked for violating wp:3rr.)--- Balloonman Poppa Balloon 21:54, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Tokyo Two ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Are articles in the category "Enumerated defendants" considered to be "Biographies of Living Persons" if the defendants are still alive? This would seem to be the case, but most of the articles in this category are not labelled as BLPs. This came up in the course of a talk page dispute over whether or not the Tokyo Two are notable, if the name of the article is appropriate, and whether it qualifies as a BLP. Ghostofnemo ( talk) 01:40, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Mustafa Kazemi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Additional eyes and opinions regarding the controversy section would be appreciated. The negative material is sourced to some sort of weblog "Blackfive.net" which does not appear to be a neutral source or meet WP:RS criteria for contentious info in a BLP. The Guardian is listed as a source, however it does not appear to substantiate any of the claims made. The issues with the article have been raised via OTRS and it looks long overdue for some clean-up. I'm tempted to simply cut the section out altogether, but would appreciate additional review first. -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 19:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Jason Russell ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Comments of obviously defamatory nature — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.14.94 ( talk) 04:21, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
There have been numerous recent incidents on this page in which contentious unsourced material has been posted, removed, and the then reposted. In all of the recent cases the person posting the material, which clearly violates BLP policies (as well as wikipedia philosophy generally concerning point of view and sourcing) has used an unregistered IP account. I think the best course of action would be to block this IP user and possibly semi-protect the page (since there have been previous incidents on this page involving other unregistered IP accounts). -- Durruti36 ( talk) 16:21, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Patti Boyd ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
If anyone has a few minutes to join the talk page discussion for this article it would be of immense help. I recently made some bold changes to this article, removing what I considered to be off topic content, partly in response to an earlier post here at BLPN. [14] However the creator of the article who brought it to GA status 4 years ago is upset. I see in hindsight if would have been prudent to contact them before making significant changes. At present there is just the two of us on the talk page and the discussion is somewhat tense and we need help on how to proceed. A neutral party or two would be most welcome in giving insights about the current state of the article and what should be done now. Thank you for your help. Link to discussion on the Patti Boyd talk page-- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
The Family Murders ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A new editor,
Rvoight (
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contribs), has been deleting references and text (
see here,
here,
here and
here.) regarding the suspects (who are not named in the article) in this murder case. He variously claims the following reasons in
Talk:The Family Murders:
(1) That
The Advertiser newspaper is not a RS.
(2) We cant use a newspaper as a source for what the police claim.
(3) The claims are inaccurate (Rvoight has declined a request to provide a source for this).
(4) As no charges have been laid, the article can not say how the police believe the suspects are involved.
(5) That inclusion of the suspects involvement would upset the victims' families.
(6) It's old news.
I have tried to address his concerns in Talk and have added several of the references he provided to the article. I have also corrected some inaccurate text and done some rewording ( see here for the changes I made) but he continues to revert to his version despite being warned.
I dont want to ask for him to be blocked if any of his concerns are valid so can I have some outside eyes to check if there are any BLP problems with the disputed text? Wayne ( talk) 01:40, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
D'oh. DNA tests were concluded. No charges were filed. Ergo - the DNA tests did not implicate the persons in any way. Cheers. Now let's keep the tabloid stuff out of what should be a simple article. BLPs are not the place to say "Oh -- someone thinks the person may be a murderer." Really. Collect ( talk) 23:54, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Electoral fraud ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Electoral fraud#Misinformation, second paragraph, accuses two prominent philanthropists of fraud for funding a large national organization group that sent out fliers with a too-late deadline for returning Wisconsin election ballots. two sources are blogs sponsored by political opponents. The third one is a "Politico" blog that does not mention the names of the two men. The word "fraud" is synthesis--it is not mentioned in any of the three cites. The article starts by defining fraud as "Although technically the term 'electoral fraud' covers only those acts which are illegal, the term is sometimes used to describe acts which are legal but nevertheless considered morally unacceptable, outside the spirit of electoral laws, or in violation of the principles of democracy." Therefore the two men are accused of very serious legal or moral offenses with no RS saying they had any knowledge whatever of the episode. The edits were twice deleted as violating BLP and then twice restored Rjensen ( talk) 23:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I think the material is full of problems. First, the first pargraph, which pre-existed the material, is unsourced and WP:OR. The lead-in sentence to the new material is also unsourced and WP:OR. Primary sources are cited to (Wisconsin statute and a complaint). I don't see any sourced basis for labeling this "fraud", even assuming it violates Wisconsin statute. I disagree with Electiontechnology - the material is too shoddy to remain and should be removed unless there is a consensus for a complete rewrite. I haven't removed the material because I'm about to log off, but I support its removal in its present form.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 01:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Another type of electoral misinformation is to give voters incorrect information about the time or place of polling, thus causing them to miss their chance to vote. In August of 2011 Americans for Prosperity, a conservative political advocacy group distributed fliers in Democrat-leaning Wisconsin districts which advised voters to send in their absentee ballots two days after the election deadline. [1] [2] [3] The group stated the mailing was the result of printing error, however the Democratic Party of Wisconsin filed a formal complaint with the state’s Government Accountability Board alleging Americans for Prosperity "displayed a continued pattern of tampering with the electoral process in Wisconsin with elaborate, illegal and fraudulent schemes designed to suppress Democratic votes." [4] [5] and the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee called for an investigation. [6]
I see no possible BLP violation in this removed text. This appears to be a misuse of this board as a conservative canvassing violation. Hipocrite ( talk) 15:33, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
This is a content dispute that has no plausible BLP aspect whatsoever. Nomoskedasticity ( talk) 19:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
A "mugshot" of Limbaugh is used as a picture - and is clearly labelled "Mugshot." I removed the word "mugshot" and was reverted at [17]. I consider the emphasis on it being a "mugshot" to be UNDUE per se, and likely not even a proper use of the image. Other opinions? Cheers. Collect ( talk) 07:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Andrew MacLeod ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
There is insufficient referencing and the article reads as if self-written, biased, and advertising for speakerships. -- Ddragovic ( talk) 14:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Addendum: Great job on the article, just gave it a look in, removed some unsupported claims that have sneaked back in, checked some bits and pieces, copyedited a copyvio'd passage. Still needs keeping an eye on as
Boydisperse (
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seems intent on putting stuff back in that does not necessarily appear in the refs and is a
single-purpose account, having edited just three pages outside of MacLeod's, all concerned with the 2005 Pakistan earthquake!
CaptainScreebo
Parley! 12:44, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Rush Limbaugh ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The issue is a recent deletion of material in the article originally entered in 2006 from a 2005 op-ed appearing the the Wall Street Journal. It is a summary of 180 words from an article by Limbaugh defining the conservative movement. It is important that the article that discusses the person who is considered to be the nation's most prominent conservative include what his views are on this movement. It is due weight against the preponderance of material in the article characterizing what what his views are in a critical or inaccurate way.
The diff where I restored the content after providing a rationale on the talk page diff patsw ( talk) 17:34, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Sal Strazzullo ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Persistent long term edit warring over sourced content relating to alleged sexual misconduct. Only the NY Post is given as a source, and a quick Google search doesn't turn up any other references. As well, much of the positive content--unencyclopedic filler like 'areas of practice' and 'bar admissions'-- is sourced only from the subject's website. The impression is that the page is a tug-of-war between factions. Some decision on the content's relevance is in order, and, if necessary, an eventual page protection. But first some feedback on this, either way, would be helpful. 99.168.81.249 ( talk) 14:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I've practically stubbed the article. It was poorly written and even more poorly sourced. I removed the tabloidy section on the sexual harassment case. Unless the article is expanded properly, the section is gossipy and undue. If the Post is to be believed, Strazzullo is actually sufficiently notable to have an article, but it needs to be drafted better.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Bernie Siegel ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
For those interested. ( olive ( talk) 15:12, 17 March 2012 (UTC))
Terrell Fletcher ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I've reverted an editor who may well be the man himself a few times already, for introducing non-neutral, unverified information--for turning the article into a puff piece. Eyes are welcomed. Drmies ( talk) 04:10, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Aubrey O'Day ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I ran into something troubling at Aubrey O'Day. IP Editor User:207.172.177.182 made this edit, which cited September 11, 2011 instead of February 18th 2011 and Perez Hilton instead of Paris Hilton. Those are significant choices; the date change implies that she was partying in New York the evening after the World Trade Center attacks, and associating her with Perez Hilton rather than Paris Hilton is arguably also putting her in a bad light. When I went to the talk page, I saw another editor has warned 207.172.177.182 about inserting incorrect information, and when I looked at the contributions I saw that all his/her edits were related to Danity Kane. I really don't know enough to evaluate all the edits (I kind of stumbled on this - I normally edit engineering topics) but I suspect that we are seeing someone trying to slip in subtle errors that serve to disparage one or more living persons. Could someone with more experience in BLP violations please look into this? Thanks! -- Guy Macon ( talk) 08:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Laurie Holden ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Date of Birth discrepancy between wiki article and IMDB. Please address.
Wikipedia article displays: Heather Laurie Holden (born December 17, 1972)
IMDB displays: Born: Heather Laurie Holden December 17, 1969 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.64.212.107 ( talk) 00:35, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I took it out for the time being - I found this , imo it is weak and could easily be a mirror of an unreliable source - http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/laurie-holden/bio/161462 - You tube is mirroring wikipedia's uncited date, lets see how long it takes them to update. Youreally can 09:03, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Mike Daisey ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A lot of people are upset about Mike Daisey, who, it's claimed, let his pursuit of the Truth (capital T) cloud his regard for the truth. (See this short list of articles at the Guardian to get up to speed on this.) At least one of them is editing the article Mike Daisey, and not for the better. There's also apparent silliness, like changing to 1972 (unsourced) just one of the (unsourced) assertions that he was born in 1976. (No, I've no idea when he was born.)
I've a hunch that the upset will continue. More dispassionate eyeballs on Mike Daisey, please. -- Hoary ( talk) 09:07, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Sergio Tacchini ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Sergio Tacchini is notable as a tennis player because he played in Davis Cup. But this article seems to be taken over by "sponsorships". How do we deal with this? He no longer owns the firm , but "Sergio Tacchini" is indeed a brand that he created. MakeSense64 ( talk) 09:55, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
J. Marshall Craig ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This article links to nothing! It seems to have been written by the author himself bearing in mind the "critically acclaimed" type of comments. Having checked these books out, they are all self published and there seem to be no conventional reviews anywhere of any of them. The links section is entirely unlinked to any other pages, either within Wiki or outside of Wiki. There is an IMDb link but that is the only active, external link. Does this meet with the Wiki bio standard rules as there seems to be nothing of note which can be externally proven. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.51.59 ( talk) 10:11, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I've just taken a chainsaw to the Mo Twister article and stubbed it down to within an inch of its wiki-life due to some egregious BLP and WP:UNDUE issues. The Rhian Ramos article has also been affected with the same issues recently. I'm hoping that a couple additional editors who are well-versed in BLP policy could watchlist these two articles to help limit the disruption. -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 17:54, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Gabriel Cousens ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I wrote this article and supported its creation at Deletion Review. I am also in contact with Mr. Cousens' offices, and they have objected to our coverage of the Levy incident. On their behalf, I am asking for some uninvolved editors to review the section which is in question ( Gabriel_Cousens#Controversy, as well as the fourth paragraph of the lead).
I have argued that the controversy section is sourced to three different reliable sources: Phoenix New Times, AZ Central, and Quackwatch. In an article of 4000 words, the controversy receives under 500. I believe it is neutrally described without going into excessive detail. Of course, it could always include less information, but I believe doing so would deprive the reader of basic facts about the case needed to make their own determination.
Cousens' office has argued that the sources on which the section is based are not reliable, especially Phoenix New Times. They have also disclosed a private statement to me about the incident suggesting the sources about it are inaccurate. Since that statement is not published, I could not incorporate it into the article.
I would appreciate someone, or multiple someones, taking a look at this section. Thanks very much. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 17:13, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Kavinsky ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Taken from the kavinsky page
This song has been sampled by twice, the first was by Lupe Fiasco on the track American Terrorist III in 2011; the second time was by Will Young, in his 2012 single Losing Myself
This is stated as fact but even the link you posted says the track was POSSIBLY sampled, Will Young as never said he used it and Kavinsky said on twitter over a month ago that he stole it and was going to sue but so far he as not done so (maybe he as found he as not got a case) it only takes a couple of weeks to get an injunction in the courts to stop a single being released ....the single was released this week with no problems.... So until there is proof this is libel. — Preceding
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Marc Morris ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Someone purporting to be the subject has reverted me. I'd prefer not to edit-war, so I'd appreciate some eyes on this article to see if the edits break any or all of COI/NPOV/CRYSTAL etc. Thanks -- Dweller ( talk) 12:52, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Anthony Warlow ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
With regard to the revival of Phantom of the Opera - Anthony Warlow article - at the Princess Theatre Melbourne, the role of Raoul was played by John Bowles. -- Blair Edgar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.27.213 ( talk) 10:02, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Nelufar Hedayat ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Major attention needed in the 'Background' section of Nelufar Hedayat article! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.116.132 ( talk) 12:06, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Lidia Bastianich ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The edits made to the Personal Life section of the Lidia Bastianich article on 18 February 2012 describe a lawsuit alleging perpetration of slavery. These allegations are unsourced and are potentially libelous. Diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lidia_Bastianich&diff=prev&oldid=477596634 chinkleDC ( talk) 03:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Glenn Spencer ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Looking at the recent changes, it seems some OR, etc was removed a while ago, but it's suddenly been restored (with criticism removed). See the diff here [26]. Clearly needs attention but I don't have time. Dougweller ( talk) 21:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Francis Muthaura ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Reading this article, the language seemed too glorifying of the subject. Checking the history showed large additions in Feb 2012 by user:Pnkoroi, with the majority of the text being WP:COPYVIO from Muthaura's own website http://www.muthaura.co.ke/profile.html . I have rolled back to before this users edits, but there were some actual edits that contained updated news of Muhtauras political career and ongoing trial at the International Criminal Court, however they were unreferenced. Perhaps a more competent editor that myself can fix/update the article? regards 94.195.187.69 ( talk) 00:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Andy Byford ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Please note: I was not born in Plymouth. I grew up there. Thanks. Andy Byford — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.29.129 ( talk) 01:09, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
List of California public officials charged with crimes ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of California public officials charged with crimes ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I have serious problems with this--in fact, I'm kind of shocked we have this. Not "convicted," but "charged," and there's plenty who are still alive. There has been some discussion on the talk page (and a proposal to move it to that title, "convicted," making the appropriate cuts), and just about the only argument I could find there for this article is "they're public officials." That argument comes from the article's main editor, User:GeorgeLouis. I will notify them of this discussion, but I want to have this discussed here, on this board, because the article's talk page doesn't see a lot of traffic. Thanks. Drmies ( talk) 02:44, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I have a great deal of angst at the thought that there are no sources, and I would certainly like to know what policy forbids the reporting of facts. I refer you to the pertinent comments on the Talk Page. I might add that this page has been getting more than a hundred hits every day, so it certainly has high interest. I also am offended at the use of cursing in this venue. Thank you very much. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 04:17, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
The traffic is pretty high ( http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/List_of_California_public_officials_charged_with_crimes), but of course if there is any given item that offends WP policy, then I'm sure it can be easily corrected. Sincerely, still your pal, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 04:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
NOTE: WP:BLP policy is still violated in this article - given that the AfD is undoubtedly going to close as delete, can I ask an admin to speedy close it to prevent further violations AndyTheGrump ( talk) 17:08, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
A question for you all: take your pick between this version and this version. Please look carefully at the sources and consider what we consider to be reliable sources for BLPs. Look at the lead and the division into sections and consider what the MOS says. Drmies ( talk) 14:21, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Either the first version, the stub, or deletion. Wikipedia is not a billboard. Tom Reedy ( talk) 23:29, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
BLP candidate standing for london mayor 2012 - he as yet appears not notable for his own bio - can someone have a look at the what imo is some kind of undue reporting of a complete non event - le nation a Spanish published an interview in 2003 and thelondonist interpretated the interview and accused him of fighting for Argentina and later retracted http://londonist.com/2011/09/bnp-picks-mayoral-candidate.php - apart from this there isn't even reliable reporting of the non event, and he didn't ever fight for Argentina - it seems totally undue to me - excessive quotations and asserting something unspoken? Youreally can 19:34, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
John Demjanjuk ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A discussion has broken out on the talkpage of this article if Mr. Demjanjuk should be labeled a "Nazi" in the lead (while he was never a Nazi party member) of the article (I think that is not neutral wording and/since articles about similar persons as Mr. Demjanjuk are not labeled "Nazi's" in there leads (which is very neutral)). I would like some outside comments on this. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:18, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
The same RS (like BBC News) who state he was a Ukrainian camp guard also state he was a Nazi.... Nazi has become an all meaningless word indeed.... Which is worrying... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
I was just wondering how careful an Wikipedia editor should be with the word "Nazi". But I am well aware of Wikipedia:Ignore all rules. To be honest I am not sure if I would call him a Nazi, that depends if he liked his work (i.o.w. he had antisemitic/Nazistic views) as a guard or not (if he did like it for me he also is a Nazi by association)... But he was silent in is trail about this... So we will never know.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 23:25, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Anthony Warlow ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
With regard to the revival of Phantom of the Opera - Anthony Warlow article - at the Princess Theatre Melbourne, the role of Raoul was played by John Bowles. -- Blair Edgar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.27.213 ( talk) 10:02, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
This page is an archive. Do not edit the contents of this page. Please direct any additional comments to the current main page. |
First few paragraphs of this article are a direct copy paste from amazon's website for the author: http://www.amazon.com/Dara-Wier/e/B001K7QXP8
The Diff: [ [1]] Removed on the grounds of poor sources and opinion based nature of potentially libelous claims. ((Salon.com Laura Miller)(Partially sourced by user review opinion from amazon)(Editorial review from amazon) Furthermore, The New York Times sourced edit was purely based on the author's opinion, and attacked personal attributes of the subject in question, rather than reviewing the actual writing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsax42 ( talk • contribs) 07:09, 7 March 2012 (UTC)-- ~~hsax42~~
Amazon.com user opinion reviews are an insufficient source and the opinions expressed there are irrelevant. The New York Times is a reliable source, however the content of the review falls under the defamation policy of wikipedia. Please refer to the wikipedia help page for Biographies of Living Persons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsax42 ( talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
There is a dispute as to whether Bruce Bartlett's view on the Reagan's role in US debt increase is properly interpreted in section Changes in debt by presidential terms of the article History of the United States public debt:
Bruce Bartlett, former domestic policy adviser to President Ronald Reagan and Treasury official under President George H.W. Bush, attributes the increase in the national debt since the 1980s to the policy of " starve the beast" and an aversion for tax increases.
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My objection to including disputed sentence is that it misrepresents Bruce Bartlett's views. Sentence implies that Bartlett thinks that all three Republican presidents since the 1980s followed the policy of "starve the beast" and were agains any tax increases. But that is misrepresenting Bartlett's view. For example he says: "Liberals believe that enactment of the 1981 tax cut marked the end of Republican opposition to deficits. But in fact Reagan was much more orthodox than either they or most conservatives think. Beginning in 1982, he supported higher taxes almost every year of his presidency." [2] and in this article he also praises George H.W. Bush: "Budget experts now agree [that George H.W. Bush's budget deal] deserves much of the credit for the subsequent improvement in the deficit, which shrank from 4.7 percent of GDP in 1992 to virtual balance in 1997 and gave us budget surpluses from 1998 to 2001. Economist Robert Reischauer, director of the Congressional Budget Office when the 1990 budget deal was enacted, told me it was “the foundation upon which the surpluses of the 1998 to 2001 period were built.” [...]the elder Bush will remain the last Republican who took fiscal responsibility seriously." -- Vision Thing -- 09:58, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
I believe that to a large extent our current budgetary problems stem from the widespread adoption of an idea by Republicans in the 1970s called 'starve the beast'. It says that the best, perhaps only, way of reducing government spending is by reducing taxes. While a plausible strategy at the time it was formulated, STB became a substitute for serious budget control efforts, reduced the political cost of deficits, encouraged fiscally irresponsible tax cutting and ultimately made both spending and deficits larger.
The reference to me being mostly descended from Europeans is racist and should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.169.139.172 ( talk) 11:17, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Article says he owns an AHL franchise as opposed to the Pittsburgh Penguins of the NHL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.222.112.250 ( talk) 17:34, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
There's an interesting discussion going on at Deletion Review over whether an article about a prominent raw foods advocate and spiritual teacher should be created or continue being deleted. Of note, there is a controversial section in the article which has raised questions about BLP issues. The subject also requested deletion of the prior article in an Afd. I would appreciate any thoughtful comments or criticism, especially in the area of your speciality, which is the care taken (or not taken) to approach the BLP issues in the article. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 17:52, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Orrin H. Pilkey (
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2 biographies for Orrin H. Pilkey are on Wikipedia. The one with the platypus as a photo, and information related to the platypus, is incorrect and should be removed from Wikipedia. The one with Professor Pilkey's photo seems to be OK. How do we get rid of the incorrect one with all of the platypus references and photo? — Preceding
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Vladimir Putin ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This article is patently biased. Criticism of Putin is mentioned with a dismissive tone when it is mentioned at all. Attempts by several editors to fix this problem - including marking it as POV - have been undone by a single editor, who seems intractable. As this article is featured on the front page right now, this seems like an important matter to resolve. Since discussions on the talk page have gone nowhere, I thought I should report it here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robnormal ( talk • contribs) 21:08, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
There is no David Lee Abbott listed as a California State Wrestling Champion or medalist with that name. The only medalist with the last name of Abbot was in 1985 (Mark Abbott 1985 105 lbs., 5th place). Tank Abbott was not a CA State High School wrestling Champion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.160.218.72 ( talk) 22:51, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Currently linked from the main page In the News section. I think that the article is accurate in its essentials, but it could use a NPOV scrub, as it currently reads more like a tabloid piece than an encyclopedia article. On my way to work; I'll address it myself in a few hours if no one has been able to look at it. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 14:49, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Pattie Boyd ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Two thirds of this BLP is dedicated to her marriages to George Harrison and Eric Clapton and contains copy like this:
Isn't this way too much detail and undue weight? Can you look at the article and comment on how much of the existing text should be removed. Thanks.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:56, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Most of the sources in this article does not provide the info it claims they do AND Gjøran Sæther is not at all known by his own name. The article should really be moved to his artist name (where he release everything) which is Proteque. Every reference to him on the web and in record stores is to Proteque not Gjøran Sæther. It is also lacking a lot of things but that should be added on the Proteque page not a Gjøran Sæther page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.90.178.98 ( talk) 17:25, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Steve Robinson is not retired, he retired the JCW championship belt. He is healed and wrestling. He appeared in a match against Kongo Kong february 24th wrestling for IWA midwest. HE IS NOT RETIRED! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.178.44.193 ( talk) 22:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hi all,
Arnold Resnicoff is semi-autobiographical and imo overlong and unduly hagiographic. If this is not an unduly harsh judgment would an experienced editor be willing to give it the wikification it needs please? Springnuts ( talk) 10:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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This is a blatantly self-serving, almost entirely unsourced "promotion page" created by the subject, as he himself has taken to boasting all over social media. There is no support at all for his long list of claims of television network associations, most of which are untrue and even most of the references he does provide are to small newspaper websites where their info was gathered by interviewing him. As an active member of the comedy community in Calgary, I can attest to the fact that most of the claims on this page are blatantly false, and Mr. LaBelle doesn't fall anywhere NEAR in the notability range to be considered eligible for a wikipedia page. Furthermore, the page contains several inflamatory, unvarifiable and often blatantly silly comments (such as describing his comedy style as "a mix between Def Jam and Chuck E. Cheese") which are not only not informational, but entirely opinion-based and, in that case, completely impossible.
I considered editing the page myself, but given Mr. LaBelle's well known persistance, it would no doubt all be edited right back and, as stated before, there's next to no evidence that he is relevent enough to warrant the page to begin with, so it would be far more prudent to just have it removed all together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.48.25.58 ( talk) 14:28, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Boomer Castleman ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Boomer's Wiki article states that he was a TX singer-songwriter. He in fact, still is - he's playing just before my band from 5-8 tonight in Austin. Please don't say was say is, as in , he IS still around. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.253.79.10 ( talk) 21:56, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Arnold Schwarzenegger ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
An editor disputes my addition of mention in the lead section of Scharzenegger's son with his housekeeper, which he and the housekeeper kept secret from the boy and Scharzenegger's wife Maria Shriver for 14 years. However, Schwarzenegger's other four children with Shriver are mentioned in the lead section. 1) Very notable given Schwarzenegger's position as former Governor of California and celebrity. 2) At the very least, WP shouldn't continue the practice of "non-acknowledgement" of children born out of wedlock (in this case, mention was made only in a subsection titled "Marital separation". Please see Talk:Arnold_Schwarzenegger#"Secret son" mentioning in lead section. Thank you, Facts707 ( talk) 00:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Naseer Shamma ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Very long detailed article with only one source. I've found some copyvio and suspect there's more. Dougweller ( talk) 10:49, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Andrew Gowers ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I am the subject of the article Andrew Gowers, which contains a material inaccuracy. I attempted to correct this by removing the inaccurate statement, but a user has reinstated it. Please could you help me correct this problem. The article as currently published states that I resigned as Editor of the Financial Times after losing a libel case with Collins Stewart. This is not true in two respects, as any examination of the public record will confirm. I left the FT by mutual agreement with the owner Pearson plc in November 2005. The libel suit mentioned in the article was settled in January 2006.. It is therefore not true to say as the article does that I resigned after losing the lawsuit. I resigned before the lawsuit was settled, and the lawsuit was not lost as it did not go to court. Indeed, my resignation had nothing to do with the lawsuit.. Please delete the reference to the lawsuit from this article as it is simply misleading. Thank you. Andrew Gowers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewgowers ( talk • contribs) 18:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Lynette Nusbacher ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
An editor has repeatedly been adding personal medical information to this article sourced only the The Sun, a well-known sensationalist tabloid newspaper. My explanations (in edit summaries and here) have fallen on deaf ears so it would be good if someone else could get involved. Phil Bridger ( talk) 18:24, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Looks like my response to your message has fallen on deaf ears. Your removal of content is pretty much vandalism. The information is correct, get over it... Aunty-S ( talk) 20:25, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
I think you just dont like the idea that Dr. Nusbacher is biologically a man. Here are a few examples of Transgender politicians and comedians where reference is made to their sex change in the article - Enza Anderson, Jamie Lee Hamilton, Vladimir Luxuria, Bethany Black, Ian Harvie. Aunty-S ( talk) 20:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to check back here. There should at least be 1 reference made, I personally found it confusing when looking up "Dr. Nusbacher" after watching a documentary she was in, and only finding an article on Lyndette, not Aryeh Nusbacher. And also in this documentary, Nusbacher was quite clearly a man. Took me a while to realise it was the same person. Btw, Sex Reassignment Surgery is cosmetic only, Nusbacher is still biologically male. Aunty-S ( talk) 21:23, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
The countless documentaries that Nusbacher appears in as male are reliable sources. I think we should compromise and make reference to Lynette's former name at least, someone has recently removed her former name from the article entirely. (Green Halcyon here, and probably shouldnt be, account is blocked for 24 hours)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.76.242.24 ( talk) 11:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, but why was it removed from the opening sentence and info box. People searching for "Aryeh Nusbacher" are likely to miss it anywhere else in the article. Here's a link to IMDB stating that Nusbacher's birth name, it was removed by an editor claiming that "Aryeh" was incorrect ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1655167/). (Green Halcyon Sock Puppet) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.76.242.24 ( talk) 11:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Mentioning that the subject underwent sex reassignment is perhaps too private a matter to include in the article. Though I agree that there should at least be a mention of her former name in the infobox. The subject is far more well known under the name "Aryeh Nusbacher". And if that IMDB link mentions it, why shouldnt wikipedia? IrishLad1916 ( talk) 12:21, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
But there is nothing private about mentioning that her former name was Aryeh, where its mentioned in the article could easily be confused for a pseudonym IrishLad1916 ( talk) 12:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Biljana Srbljanović ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Several serbian tabloids ( Kurir, Alo! and telegraf.rs) reported that she was caught while buying cocaine. No serious (not tabloid) newspaper or television confirmed those reports. Srbljanović later denied all this, claiming that she is victim of two tabloids. It is worth noting that Biljana Srbljanović is active in political life, and that elections will soon be held in Serbia, so this could be part of the election campaign of her opponents (Serbian right wing nationalists).
The IP editors for days are entering these tabloid allegations as proven fact. The current controversies section is about 50% of the article, maybe more. Every tabloid article is now in the controversies section, and some of the text in that section is unsourced. Please, will someone experienced look in this article. Thanks.-- В и к и T 18:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Patrick McGorry ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Re Patrick McGorry I have just discovered that this page now contains inaccuracies about me personally in two respects. Firstly I have not advocated for the use of antipsychotics in pre-psychotic psychosis. In fact I have carried out research that has shown that these medications are NOT required in this stage of illness and have led the authorship of clinical practice guidelines whcih have stated for many years that such medications should not be used in this stage. The question of how to treat such patients remains in clinical equipoise and hence research is ethically still valid to clarify the sequence of treatments in the early stages of psychosis. Obviously risk/benefit considerations which critics are concerned about must be the central guide to the use of any interventions. The second issue relates to the case of Geoff Stuart which focused on his role in research which was led by colleagues at the University of Melbourne and in which I was involved as one only of the investigators. It is hardly a controversy from my point of view since the allegations that Dr Stuart made in respect of myself were not upheld and as the entry correctly reports I was fully vindicated and in fact cleared of any misconduct. I therefore regard it as inappropriate to say the least that this entry has been included and wonder who is responsible for its addition and what relationships and conflicts of interest they may have. These two errors go the issue of reputation and I would like them corrected immediately. Patrick McGorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmcgorry ( talk • contribs) 11:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Ali Paya ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
To whom it may concern Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to let you know that your recent revised entry on Ali Paya contains many factual errors and is written in a way which deliberately disseminates misinformation about him. While your earlier entry on Professor Paya was brief and not very informative it did not contain inaccurate and malicious information. The recent entry, in contrast, seems to have been written with the aim of portraying him in a particularly negative light.
Below is a list of some of the inaccurate details which can be found in your recent entry:
Professor Paya, contrary to what is stated in the recent entry, is first and foremost a philosopher and scholar and not a translator and writer. You can simply check this fact by a quick google search on him. In his capacity as a philosopher and academic scholar he has produced several books and more than 50 scholarly papers in both Persian and English. Some of his papers are translated into German and Arabic.
In your recent entry on Professor Paya the following titles are mentioned among Professor Paya’s books and/or papers published in anthologies: Models of Explanation (2003), Islam and Political Order: Muslim Reflections on Democracy, Secularism and Law (2003). However, Professor Paya has not published any book with the title of Models of Explanation. Moreover, there is no anthology entitled Islam and Political Order: Muslim Reflections on Democracy, Secularism and Law.
The claim about alleged plagiarism was part of a calculated smearing campaign to discredit Professor Paya. Fardin Jahanbin is a pseudonym. Moreover, Professor Paya in his reply to the alleged claim clearly demonstrated that the claim is factually false and baseless. Surprisingly, in your recent entry there is no link to Professor Paya’s rebuttal. The only link is to the original claim by ‘Jahanbin’.
The following is a more accurate biography of Professor Ali Paya which could be used to replace the existing inaccurate entry in Wikipedia:
Professor Ali Paya is a contemporary Iranian philosopher and scholar. He has studied in Sharif University of Technology (Electronics), University of Tehran (Philosophy), University of London (Philosophy of Science) and has obtained his PhD from the University College London. He is Associate Professor of Philosophy at the National Research Institute for Science Policy (NRISP) in Iran and Senior Visiting Research Fellow at the Department of Politics and International Relations, University of Westminster in the UK.
Professor Paya has published many books as well as scholarly papers in national and international academic journals and anthologies in both Persian and English. Some of his papers are translated into Arabic and German.
His most recent and forthcoming books and papers include: Analytic Philosophy and Philosophical Analysis: Problems, Prospects and Applications (2012) (In two volumes. The first volume of this book was the winner of the title of best philosophical book of the year 2005 in Iran); Habermas and Iranian Intellectuals, (with M. Ghaneirad, 2012), Socio-Ethical Consequences of Convergent Technologies (with R. Kalantarinezhad, 2011); Iraq, Democracy, and the Future of Muslim World (with John Esposito, Routledge, 2011); Technology, Culture and Ethics (2009); “How indigenous are ‘indigenous sciences’? The Case of ‘Islamic Sciences’”, in Asia, Europe, and the Emergence of Modern Science: Knowledge Crossing Boundaries (Palgrave, 2012); “The Misguided Conception of Objectivity in Humanities and Social Sciences”, in The Crisis of the Human Sciences False Objectivity and the Decline of Creativity (2011); and “Futures Studies in Iran: Learning through Trial and Error” (With H. Shoraka, 2010). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hesamuddin ( talk • contribs) 14:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Charles Krauthammer ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I found a minor error in the biography of physician and political commentator Dr Charles Krauthammer. The bio gives the impression that Krauthammer no longer practices psychiatry. In fact, he maintains a medical office and is a fully licensed physician in the District of Columbia, where his office is located.
My source is the records of the DC Board of Medical Registration.
The Very Rev. Daniel Beegan, D.Min. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FriarDaniel ( talk • contribs) 14:58, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Brother Stair ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
There is alot of "smear campaigning" stuff in this article, please remove all of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brother77 ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 11 March 2012 (UTC) — Brother77 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Connie Francis ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The photo to the upper right of this article is not of Connie Francis, but of Connie Stevens. Should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MSlibraryghost ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
I thought there was a copyright problem, but it was actually a Flickr problem. In any event, as User:January noted on the Francis Talk page, the picture was mistakenly labeled as being Connie Francis, when it was in fact Connie Stevens, and it has been renamed. It is still awaiting review for copyright, but the who's-picture-is-it confusion has been resolved.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:08, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Hani Al-Mazeedi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This is a clear vanity page and they are even using it to announce future public events and conferences. None of this is newsworthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.9.119 ( talk) 00:26, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
South Ronaldsay child abuse scandal ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The following link is an outdated and untrue reflection of my character and my family. Please could someone help in the removl of this information.South Ronaldsay child abuse scandal - Wikipedia, the free ...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Ronaldsay_child_abuse_scandalCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo May Willsher, one of the children from "family W", later said: ... In September 2006 it was announced that May Willsher, who had been 8 years old when she was ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blue54321 ( talk • contribs) 09:49, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Someone has moved this page from Nazir Ahmad (Burewala resident) to Nazir Ahmad (murderer). As noted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nazir Ahmad (Burewala resident), this is problematic from a BLP standpoint (reliable sources haven't reported that he was convicted of murder). The move should be reverted, and the page move protected. Andjam ( talk) 12:30, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Rinat Akhmetov ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Looks to be a headache in the making; just about every paragraph has some accusation of criminal activity - and it is littered with dubious sourcing and what looks like OR (or some sort of soap boxing). I'm not going to have time to work on this but it needs an urgent clean up! -- Errant ( chat!) 17:37, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
I am not sure if this should be put here and if I did it at the right time but I started yesterday an discussion on the talkpage of the article in which I advice to restructure the article. I think a restruction (as I have in mind) should solve most "neutrality" content issues.... Hope I am not making things more complicated now.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 00:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
There is an issue over on the Harrison Ford article. An editor is insisting that Harrison Ford is Jewish and is repeatedly adding the article to the category "Jewish Actors". Harrison Ford has some Jewish ancestry on his mother's side, though his father was Irish Catholic. Harrison Ford himself has never publicly stated he follows any religion or confirmed he follows a Jewish lifestyle or Jewish customs in any way. In a TV interview (Inside The Actors Studio 2.40 mins in), he did make a humorous comment relating to his ancestry when asked if his mixed family background ever influenced him as a person and as an artist. He said that "as a man I always felt Irish, as an actor I always felt Jewish". He was laughing as he said it and the audience applauded him for making such a funny and clever answer, though it is no indication to mean that he actually is Jewish. It is certainly correct to include Harrison Ford in the "Americans of Jewish Descent" category because that is factually accurate and can be proven, but to actually state he is Jewish when he has never confirmed it himself is clearly a violation of WP:BLP because it is making assertions about his personal beliefs and lifestyle that he himself has never actually publicly confirmed. Kookoo Star ( talk) 02:27, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Geoffrey O'Brien ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
According to the article, Geoffrey O'Brien was "savagely beaten" by police in November, 2011. This is not merely contentious, it's transparently false and libellous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.0.99.94 ( talk) 18:39, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Setti Warren ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Piece of text was inserted with inaccurate information that was not substantiated by the article that it referenced. Therefore, it was removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Turtleman70 ( talk • contribs) 19:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Germán Trejo ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
We've got one of the article subject's college buddies trying to whitewash the article to replace information about bankruptcy proceedings with a list of all his various volunteer gigs and awards, most of which are, of course, uncited or insufficiently cited. See here, here, and here.
I'm just hoping I can get some more eyes on the article to keep the snowjob from staying active too long whenever it goes up next. Thanks. — Bdb484 (talk) 19:07, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Bar-Kays ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hello!! I am very disappointed you left out an important band member and SONG WRITER for many of the Bar-Kays songs - Charles, "Scoop" Allen, who just passed away on 3/9/12. He is MY brother in law, married to my sister. He was the trumpet player on MANY of their albums and I am frankly offended that you left him out considering he is on most of their albums in the 70s. I spoke to Lloyd yesterday as well, who called to extend his condolences and find out when the services are. Please go and do your research and add all the contributions that Scoop did for this band! Thank you, Yvonne LaCour
see my FB page - Yvonne Couty LaCour where you will see info on Charles' passing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creolewoman ( talk • contribs) 02:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Charlene M. Proctor ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
From what I have looked into, this article's
I can't take this any further down the WP:BEFORE due to limitations from a chronic illness (I'm behind on my own user talk page, but I keep finding edits while idly browsing!) so would someone see if attention to the Proctor article is warranted? I couldn't do anything thorough because my eye muscles...ah, that's a long story AND I've already explained I'm limited.
Uh, to re-focus on the point while trying be fair all around, I only did a little bit of skimming in these areas, however I did find potential problems things quickly, and I likely won't be able to find my way back here in a timely fashion. So, please take this completely over for me & from me if you think it is needful.
Thanks in advance, -- Geekdiva ( talk) 19:29, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Casey Hudson ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
this article has been recently repeatedly vandalized and might need a temporary lock on editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.128.144.182 ( talk) 21:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Numerous edits made to an article all based on self-published/anon comments made on a forum thread. While other sources have repeated the extremly contentious information, their source for the information is that forum thread - which continually used as a "reference" in this article. 2005 ( talk) 07:38, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Since when are we hypercritical of what reliable secondary sources use as their primary sources? You can't just assume out of hand that Poker News did no due diligence here. And the idea that a professional gambler who lost a $3 million dollar a year endorsement deal now can't pay off his bets isn't exactly a "contentious" one. It's akin to "coal miner gets trapped in a coal mine" -- gamblers go broke all the time, it doesn't require some huge suspension of disbelief. More reliable sources on this are just going to keep popping up, [12] so you are racing the tide here. -- Kendrick7 talk 21:44, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Kendrick, I am a random admin who also happens to be active in the WP:POKER project. So, I know a little about the sources/issues you are addressing. 2005 and I, typically disagree on a lot of issues. But right now, the inclusion of this information in the article IS a violation of BLP. The news sources are not stating the Edog actually owes the money, they are covering the flap and the constroversy sparked by a few people. Thus, even though they are covering the 2+2 forum hubbub, it fails to meet our criteria for BLP. 2005 has the right of it... in order to include this info, we would need a reliable source that says that Edog does in fact owe this money and doesn't repay his debts in a timely manner. Not a news report that is reporting on some forum posters allegations. Controversial material has a high threshold. (Note: 2005 can, per BLP, keep reverting your edits indefinitely. Continual inclusion of the material, however, will result in your being blocked for violating wp:3rr.)--- Balloonman Poppa Balloon 21:54, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Tokyo Two ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Are articles in the category "Enumerated defendants" considered to be "Biographies of Living Persons" if the defendants are still alive? This would seem to be the case, but most of the articles in this category are not labelled as BLPs. This came up in the course of a talk page dispute over whether or not the Tokyo Two are notable, if the name of the article is appropriate, and whether it qualifies as a BLP. Ghostofnemo ( talk) 01:40, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Mustafa Kazemi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Additional eyes and opinions regarding the controversy section would be appreciated. The negative material is sourced to some sort of weblog "Blackfive.net" which does not appear to be a neutral source or meet WP:RS criteria for contentious info in a BLP. The Guardian is listed as a source, however it does not appear to substantiate any of the claims made. The issues with the article have been raised via OTRS and it looks long overdue for some clean-up. I'm tempted to simply cut the section out altogether, but would appreciate additional review first. -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 19:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Jason Russell ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Comments of obviously defamatory nature — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.14.94 ( talk) 04:21, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
There have been numerous recent incidents on this page in which contentious unsourced material has been posted, removed, and the then reposted. In all of the recent cases the person posting the material, which clearly violates BLP policies (as well as wikipedia philosophy generally concerning point of view and sourcing) has used an unregistered IP account. I think the best course of action would be to block this IP user and possibly semi-protect the page (since there have been previous incidents on this page involving other unregistered IP accounts). -- Durruti36 ( talk) 16:21, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Patti Boyd ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
If anyone has a few minutes to join the talk page discussion for this article it would be of immense help. I recently made some bold changes to this article, removing what I considered to be off topic content, partly in response to an earlier post here at BLPN. [14] However the creator of the article who brought it to GA status 4 years ago is upset. I see in hindsight if would have been prudent to contact them before making significant changes. At present there is just the two of us on the talk page and the discussion is somewhat tense and we need help on how to proceed. A neutral party or two would be most welcome in giving insights about the current state of the article and what should be done now. Thank you for your help. Link to discussion on the Patti Boyd talk page-- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
The Family Murders ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A new editor,
Rvoight (
talk|
contribs), has been deleting references and text (
see here,
here,
here and
here.) regarding the suspects (who are not named in the article) in this murder case. He variously claims the following reasons in
Talk:The Family Murders:
(1) That
The Advertiser newspaper is not a RS.
(2) We cant use a newspaper as a source for what the police claim.
(3) The claims are inaccurate (Rvoight has declined a request to provide a source for this).
(4) As no charges have been laid, the article can not say how the police believe the suspects are involved.
(5) That inclusion of the suspects involvement would upset the victims' families.
(6) It's old news.
I have tried to address his concerns in Talk and have added several of the references he provided to the article. I have also corrected some inaccurate text and done some rewording ( see here for the changes I made) but he continues to revert to his version despite being warned.
I dont want to ask for him to be blocked if any of his concerns are valid so can I have some outside eyes to check if there are any BLP problems with the disputed text? Wayne ( talk) 01:40, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
D'oh. DNA tests were concluded. No charges were filed. Ergo - the DNA tests did not implicate the persons in any way. Cheers. Now let's keep the tabloid stuff out of what should be a simple article. BLPs are not the place to say "Oh -- someone thinks the person may be a murderer." Really. Collect ( talk) 23:54, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Electoral fraud ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Electoral fraud#Misinformation, second paragraph, accuses two prominent philanthropists of fraud for funding a large national organization group that sent out fliers with a too-late deadline for returning Wisconsin election ballots. two sources are blogs sponsored by political opponents. The third one is a "Politico" blog that does not mention the names of the two men. The word "fraud" is synthesis--it is not mentioned in any of the three cites. The article starts by defining fraud as "Although technically the term 'electoral fraud' covers only those acts which are illegal, the term is sometimes used to describe acts which are legal but nevertheless considered morally unacceptable, outside the spirit of electoral laws, or in violation of the principles of democracy." Therefore the two men are accused of very serious legal or moral offenses with no RS saying they had any knowledge whatever of the episode. The edits were twice deleted as violating BLP and then twice restored Rjensen ( talk) 23:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I think the material is full of problems. First, the first pargraph, which pre-existed the material, is unsourced and WP:OR. The lead-in sentence to the new material is also unsourced and WP:OR. Primary sources are cited to (Wisconsin statute and a complaint). I don't see any sourced basis for labeling this "fraud", even assuming it violates Wisconsin statute. I disagree with Electiontechnology - the material is too shoddy to remain and should be removed unless there is a consensus for a complete rewrite. I haven't removed the material because I'm about to log off, but I support its removal in its present form.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 01:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Another type of electoral misinformation is to give voters incorrect information about the time or place of polling, thus causing them to miss their chance to vote. In August of 2011 Americans for Prosperity, a conservative political advocacy group distributed fliers in Democrat-leaning Wisconsin districts which advised voters to send in their absentee ballots two days after the election deadline. [1] [2] [3] The group stated the mailing was the result of printing error, however the Democratic Party of Wisconsin filed a formal complaint with the state’s Government Accountability Board alleging Americans for Prosperity "displayed a continued pattern of tampering with the electoral process in Wisconsin with elaborate, illegal and fraudulent schemes designed to suppress Democratic votes." [4] [5] and the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee called for an investigation. [6]
I see no possible BLP violation in this removed text. This appears to be a misuse of this board as a conservative canvassing violation. Hipocrite ( talk) 15:33, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
This is a content dispute that has no plausible BLP aspect whatsoever. Nomoskedasticity ( talk) 19:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
A "mugshot" of Limbaugh is used as a picture - and is clearly labelled "Mugshot." I removed the word "mugshot" and was reverted at [17]. I consider the emphasis on it being a "mugshot" to be UNDUE per se, and likely not even a proper use of the image. Other opinions? Cheers. Collect ( talk) 07:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Andrew MacLeod ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
There is insufficient referencing and the article reads as if self-written, biased, and advertising for speakerships. -- Ddragovic ( talk) 14:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Addendum: Great job on the article, just gave it a look in, removed some unsupported claims that have sneaked back in, checked some bits and pieces, copyedited a copyvio'd passage. Still needs keeping an eye on as
Boydisperse (
talk ·
contribs)
seems intent on putting stuff back in that does not necessarily appear in the refs and is a
single-purpose account, having edited just three pages outside of MacLeod's, all concerned with the 2005 Pakistan earthquake!
CaptainScreebo
Parley! 12:44, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Rush Limbaugh ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The issue is a recent deletion of material in the article originally entered in 2006 from a 2005 op-ed appearing the the Wall Street Journal. It is a summary of 180 words from an article by Limbaugh defining the conservative movement. It is important that the article that discusses the person who is considered to be the nation's most prominent conservative include what his views are on this movement. It is due weight against the preponderance of material in the article characterizing what what his views are in a critical or inaccurate way.
The diff where I restored the content after providing a rationale on the talk page diff patsw ( talk) 17:34, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Sal Strazzullo ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Persistent long term edit warring over sourced content relating to alleged sexual misconduct. Only the NY Post is given as a source, and a quick Google search doesn't turn up any other references. As well, much of the positive content--unencyclopedic filler like 'areas of practice' and 'bar admissions'-- is sourced only from the subject's website. The impression is that the page is a tug-of-war between factions. Some decision on the content's relevance is in order, and, if necessary, an eventual page protection. But first some feedback on this, either way, would be helpful. 99.168.81.249 ( talk) 14:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I've practically stubbed the article. It was poorly written and even more poorly sourced. I removed the tabloidy section on the sexual harassment case. Unless the article is expanded properly, the section is gossipy and undue. If the Post is to be believed, Strazzullo is actually sufficiently notable to have an article, but it needs to be drafted better.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Bernie Siegel ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
For those interested. ( olive ( talk) 15:12, 17 March 2012 (UTC))
Terrell Fletcher ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I've reverted an editor who may well be the man himself a few times already, for introducing non-neutral, unverified information--for turning the article into a puff piece. Eyes are welcomed. Drmies ( talk) 04:10, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Aubrey O'Day ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I ran into something troubling at Aubrey O'Day. IP Editor User:207.172.177.182 made this edit, which cited September 11, 2011 instead of February 18th 2011 and Perez Hilton instead of Paris Hilton. Those are significant choices; the date change implies that she was partying in New York the evening after the World Trade Center attacks, and associating her with Perez Hilton rather than Paris Hilton is arguably also putting her in a bad light. When I went to the talk page, I saw another editor has warned 207.172.177.182 about inserting incorrect information, and when I looked at the contributions I saw that all his/her edits were related to Danity Kane. I really don't know enough to evaluate all the edits (I kind of stumbled on this - I normally edit engineering topics) but I suspect that we are seeing someone trying to slip in subtle errors that serve to disparage one or more living persons. Could someone with more experience in BLP violations please look into this? Thanks! -- Guy Macon ( talk) 08:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Laurie Holden ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Date of Birth discrepancy between wiki article and IMDB. Please address.
Wikipedia article displays: Heather Laurie Holden (born December 17, 1972)
IMDB displays: Born: Heather Laurie Holden December 17, 1969 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.64.212.107 ( talk) 00:35, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I took it out for the time being - I found this , imo it is weak and could easily be a mirror of an unreliable source - http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/laurie-holden/bio/161462 - You tube is mirroring wikipedia's uncited date, lets see how long it takes them to update. Youreally can 09:03, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Mike Daisey ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A lot of people are upset about Mike Daisey, who, it's claimed, let his pursuit of the Truth (capital T) cloud his regard for the truth. (See this short list of articles at the Guardian to get up to speed on this.) At least one of them is editing the article Mike Daisey, and not for the better. There's also apparent silliness, like changing to 1972 (unsourced) just one of the (unsourced) assertions that he was born in 1976. (No, I've no idea when he was born.)
I've a hunch that the upset will continue. More dispassionate eyeballs on Mike Daisey, please. -- Hoary ( talk) 09:07, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Sergio Tacchini ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Sergio Tacchini is notable as a tennis player because he played in Davis Cup. But this article seems to be taken over by "sponsorships". How do we deal with this? He no longer owns the firm , but "Sergio Tacchini" is indeed a brand that he created. MakeSense64 ( talk) 09:55, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
J. Marshall Craig ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This article links to nothing! It seems to have been written by the author himself bearing in mind the "critically acclaimed" type of comments. Having checked these books out, they are all self published and there seem to be no conventional reviews anywhere of any of them. The links section is entirely unlinked to any other pages, either within Wiki or outside of Wiki. There is an IMDb link but that is the only active, external link. Does this meet with the Wiki bio standard rules as there seems to be nothing of note which can be externally proven. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.51.59 ( talk) 10:11, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I've just taken a chainsaw to the Mo Twister article and stubbed it down to within an inch of its wiki-life due to some egregious BLP and WP:UNDUE issues. The Rhian Ramos article has also been affected with the same issues recently. I'm hoping that a couple additional editors who are well-versed in BLP policy could watchlist these two articles to help limit the disruption. -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 17:54, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Gabriel Cousens ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I wrote this article and supported its creation at Deletion Review. I am also in contact with Mr. Cousens' offices, and they have objected to our coverage of the Levy incident. On their behalf, I am asking for some uninvolved editors to review the section which is in question ( Gabriel_Cousens#Controversy, as well as the fourth paragraph of the lead).
I have argued that the controversy section is sourced to three different reliable sources: Phoenix New Times, AZ Central, and Quackwatch. In an article of 4000 words, the controversy receives under 500. I believe it is neutrally described without going into excessive detail. Of course, it could always include less information, but I believe doing so would deprive the reader of basic facts about the case needed to make their own determination.
Cousens' office has argued that the sources on which the section is based are not reliable, especially Phoenix New Times. They have also disclosed a private statement to me about the incident suggesting the sources about it are inaccurate. Since that statement is not published, I could not incorporate it into the article.
I would appreciate someone, or multiple someones, taking a look at this section. Thanks very much. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 17:13, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Kavinsky ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Taken from the kavinsky page
This song has been sampled by twice, the first was by Lupe Fiasco on the track American Terrorist III in 2011; the second time was by Will Young, in his 2012 single Losing Myself
This is stated as fact but even the link you posted says the track was POSSIBLY sampled, Will Young as never said he used it and Kavinsky said on twitter over a month ago that he stole it and was going to sue but so far he as not done so (maybe he as found he as not got a case) it only takes a couple of weeks to get an injunction in the courts to stop a single being released ....the single was released this week with no problems.... So until there is proof this is libel. — Preceding
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Marc Morris ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Someone purporting to be the subject has reverted me. I'd prefer not to edit-war, so I'd appreciate some eyes on this article to see if the edits break any or all of COI/NPOV/CRYSTAL etc. Thanks -- Dweller ( talk) 12:52, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Anthony Warlow ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
With regard to the revival of Phantom of the Opera - Anthony Warlow article - at the Princess Theatre Melbourne, the role of Raoul was played by John Bowles. -- Blair Edgar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.27.213 ( talk) 10:02, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Nelufar Hedayat ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Major attention needed in the 'Background' section of Nelufar Hedayat article! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.116.132 ( talk) 12:06, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Lidia Bastianich ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The edits made to the Personal Life section of the Lidia Bastianich article on 18 February 2012 describe a lawsuit alleging perpetration of slavery. These allegations are unsourced and are potentially libelous. Diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lidia_Bastianich&diff=prev&oldid=477596634 chinkleDC ( talk) 03:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Glenn Spencer ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Looking at the recent changes, it seems some OR, etc was removed a while ago, but it's suddenly been restored (with criticism removed). See the diff here [26]. Clearly needs attention but I don't have time. Dougweller ( talk) 21:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Francis Muthaura ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Reading this article, the language seemed too glorifying of the subject. Checking the history showed large additions in Feb 2012 by user:Pnkoroi, with the majority of the text being WP:COPYVIO from Muthaura's own website http://www.muthaura.co.ke/profile.html . I have rolled back to before this users edits, but there were some actual edits that contained updated news of Muhtauras political career and ongoing trial at the International Criminal Court, however they were unreferenced. Perhaps a more competent editor that myself can fix/update the article? regards 94.195.187.69 ( talk) 00:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Andy Byford ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Please note: I was not born in Plymouth. I grew up there. Thanks. Andy Byford — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.29.129 ( talk) 01:09, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
List of California public officials charged with crimes ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of California public officials charged with crimes ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I have serious problems with this--in fact, I'm kind of shocked we have this. Not "convicted," but "charged," and there's plenty who are still alive. There has been some discussion on the talk page (and a proposal to move it to that title, "convicted," making the appropriate cuts), and just about the only argument I could find there for this article is "they're public officials." That argument comes from the article's main editor, User:GeorgeLouis. I will notify them of this discussion, but I want to have this discussed here, on this board, because the article's talk page doesn't see a lot of traffic. Thanks. Drmies ( talk) 02:44, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I have a great deal of angst at the thought that there are no sources, and I would certainly like to know what policy forbids the reporting of facts. I refer you to the pertinent comments on the Talk Page. I might add that this page has been getting more than a hundred hits every day, so it certainly has high interest. I also am offended at the use of cursing in this venue. Thank you very much. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 04:17, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
The traffic is pretty high ( http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/List_of_California_public_officials_charged_with_crimes), but of course if there is any given item that offends WP policy, then I'm sure it can be easily corrected. Sincerely, still your pal, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 04:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
NOTE: WP:BLP policy is still violated in this article - given that the AfD is undoubtedly going to close as delete, can I ask an admin to speedy close it to prevent further violations AndyTheGrump ( talk) 17:08, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
A question for you all: take your pick between this version and this version. Please look carefully at the sources and consider what we consider to be reliable sources for BLPs. Look at the lead and the division into sections and consider what the MOS says. Drmies ( talk) 14:21, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Either the first version, the stub, or deletion. Wikipedia is not a billboard. Tom Reedy ( talk) 23:29, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
BLP candidate standing for london mayor 2012 - he as yet appears not notable for his own bio - can someone have a look at the what imo is some kind of undue reporting of a complete non event - le nation a Spanish published an interview in 2003 and thelondonist interpretated the interview and accused him of fighting for Argentina and later retracted http://londonist.com/2011/09/bnp-picks-mayoral-candidate.php - apart from this there isn't even reliable reporting of the non event, and he didn't ever fight for Argentina - it seems totally undue to me - excessive quotations and asserting something unspoken? Youreally can 19:34, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
John Demjanjuk ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
A discussion has broken out on the talkpage of this article if Mr. Demjanjuk should be labeled a "Nazi" in the lead (while he was never a Nazi party member) of the article (I think that is not neutral wording and/since articles about similar persons as Mr. Demjanjuk are not labeled "Nazi's" in there leads (which is very neutral)). I would like some outside comments on this. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:18, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
The same RS (like BBC News) who state he was a Ukrainian camp guard also state he was a Nazi.... Nazi has become an all meaningless word indeed.... Which is worrying... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
I was just wondering how careful an Wikipedia editor should be with the word "Nazi". But I am well aware of Wikipedia:Ignore all rules. To be honest I am not sure if I would call him a Nazi, that depends if he liked his work (i.o.w. he had antisemitic/Nazistic views) as a guard or not (if he did like it for me he also is a Nazi by association)... But he was silent in is trail about this... So we will never know.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 23:25, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Anthony Warlow ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
With regard to the revival of Phantom of the Opera - Anthony Warlow article - at the Princess Theatre Melbourne, the role of Raoul was played by John Bowles. -- Blair Edgar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.27.213 ( talk) 10:02, 13 March 2012 (UTC)