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List of EGOT winners of Filipino descent
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As it appears there is only one winner of EGOT of Filipino descent that fits the criteria, this list article fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:NLIST. Nominations for awards alone are not typically enough for notability unless it's multiple per WP:ANYBIO. Raladic ( talk) 02:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Nirad Solanki
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There is a lot of refbombing in this orphan article. Whilst a lot of the coverage confirms he bought businesses and bars, none of this is indepth to meet WP:SIGCOV. Just a run of the mill businessman that doesn't meet WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 02:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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For the Freedom of Nations!
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There is little to indicate that this one-time 2024 event has notability. There is a lot of sourcing but little of it is reliable. Of the few RS that are cited, they make off-hand one-sentence mentions of this event or they explain the insignificance of the event. thena ( talk) 21:10, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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- A number of the cited sources may have a pro-Russia slant, but it also cites some directly critical sources under "criticism" and just looking it up on google I also found
this bit of sigcov from a more generally anti-Western Turkish source; ONEEVENT is certainly a concern but it is also possible the sources required are simply spread out over many different languages that we only need more time and input to compile.
Orchastrattor (
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- The European Council on Foreign Relations citation seems perfectly admissible for GNG in particular. Orchastrattor ( talk) 22:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as it fails WP:SUSTAINED. Plenty of one-time conferences have gained sustained notability (e.g., the Bandung Conference), but this article does not qualify. - Amigao ( talk) 22:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the multiple sources available which indicates that it meets
WP:GNG. The only issue with the article is
WP:Toosoon but this will not affect the article because it is a multinational inter-party movement and it is not likely to die down soon, will rather gather more momentum.
LocomotiveEngine (
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07:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Its sources almost entirely fail the crucial point of "Independent of the subject" per WP:GNG. See WP:TASS for example. - Amigao ( talk) 21:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - I think this event is sufficiently notable. It may be a little early to judge ref WP:SUSTAINED but, @ Amigao it’s import to pay due regard to WP:NTEMP. I agree with @ Thena and @ Orchastrattor that the references are poor and fall short of the standard described by WP:RELIABLESOURCES. I’ve done some cursory research and there are some western perspectives available that could compliment the pro-Russian sources currently in the article. (NB - Orchastrattor is being generous when they say. ‘May have’)
- TLDR/ Improve references. Too narrow.
Adamfamousman (
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00:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- If it's too early to judge WP:SUSTAINED then it's WP:TOOSOON for this article to exist. - Amigao ( talk) 12:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)- Keep - meets WP:GNG, and I believe it is notable enough. Brat Forelli🦊 22:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with Amigao. Also I can't help but be suspicious when a new user just creates an article as their first edit
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- Absolutely tendentious rationale, just about every worthwhile article I've ever seen on AFC has come from a brand-new account or an IP. Orchastrattor ( talk) 18:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to draft pending development of sources demonstrating sustained notability. BD2412 T 01:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Too Lost (company)
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Still unclear if there's enough independent coverage for WP:NCORP.
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- Delete: Fails the NCORP sourcing criteria as most of the sources are routine announcements, trade publications or brief mentions. S0091 ( talk) 15:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Sohom ( talk) 01:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Thomas Matthew Crooks
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WP:BLP1E. Only notable for one crime, nothing else. Can be covered enough in Attempted assassination of Donald Trump. No need for an article, and honestly needs to not have an article to respect our policies on recently deceased persons given the fact that most of what exists about him is speculation. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez ( User/ say hi!) 01:35, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy keep and close --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. RodRabelo7 ( talk) 01:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Tried to withdraw but I was not fast enough. I thought TW would show prior AfD but it did not do so. Please feel free to delete this page under G6 if possible. Apologies for the trouble. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez ( User/ say hi!) 01:38, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy keep & close article has already been AfD'd like 3 times, all of which have been closed. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 01:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Mott family murders
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Fails NEVENT. All sources are from the week this happened, no follow up, failing WP:SUSTAINED. In addition, familicides are by far the most common kind of mass murder and tend to receive the least coverage, so the odds that this will receive any kind of retrospective coverage when coverage has ceased, especially since it's been two years with nothing, is slim to none. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 01:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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TFhost
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I'm not seeing much third party coverage, likely to fail WP:CORPDEPTH. Unclear how much weight should be given to those awards. KH-1 ( talk) 03:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Hi, as per WP:CORPDEPTH there a couple more recent references made even before this listing, https://von.gov.ng/website-hosting-firm-advocates-enhanced-data-protection-measures/ , https://dailytrust.com/cybersecurity-firm-urges-nigerians-to-guide-their-data-online/ . This nomination for deletion should be rescinded in my opinon 4555hhm ( talk) 13:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Kristofer Karlsson
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. The links provided are all primary. Could not find third party coverage of this individual. LibStar ( talk) 01:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Girl Geeks Scotland
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Fails WP:ORG. 3 of the 4 sources are dead. The remaining source [1] is a small mention. LibStar ( talk) 01:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Trump raised fist photographs
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WP:REDUNDANTFORK of Attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Should be merged to the above mentioned article. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 00:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: the photos are indeed directly related to the assassination attempt, but have found distinct commentary, interpretation, and coverage as something more. WP:DROPTHESTICK on these deletion noms, please. BarntToust ( talk) 00:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, clearly notable given the amount of commentary on this image specifically. While it is a picture of the assassination attempt, it has gotten a lot of commentary based on it's use and composition. Personisinsterest ( talk) 00:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Csg95 ( talk) 02:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Clearly notable, also per @ BarntToust can we please Wikipedia:DROPTHESTICK. LuxembourgLover ( talk) 00:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Cleary a separate notable topic with wide coverage of the photos and not the actual attempt to kill past and potentially future President of the USA. With regards, Oleg Y. ( talk) 00:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge: This certainly warrants its own section on the original article, but not its own article.
SlyAceZeta (
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00:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Patently false, since notable photographs have their own articles, not some nonsense concept of just being a subsection for the broader topic daruda ( talk) 00:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or Delete Astropulse ( talk) 00:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump. All of the relevant information is covered there in a few concise paragraphs. Per WP:PAGEDECIDE, it's better to keep topics that provide each other context in the same article when possible. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 00:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep since it is / was widely reported on by a number of notable media outlets and extremely popular on social media. Also suggest we get a non-cropped version at low resolution to illustrate the article. User:WoodElf 00:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or delete it. This serves no purpose other than to elevate Trump as some kind of tough guy. Does Reagan have a dedicated article about the aftermath? Ridiculous.
32.220.216.27 (
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00:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Biased IP user with a low IQ take eh? not surprised. the point isn't trump, the point is the photograph. and 'raising the flag on iwo jima'/ ground zero both have articles. daruda ( talk) 00:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Let's maintain WP:NPOV when providing reasons for deletion. User:WoodElf 01:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- this IP user does not seem to be giving a proper train of thought for any reason. They seem to be bringing aftermath of Reagan into this, and that is not really an "iconic, widely-discussed and notable" photograph sort-of-thing. This non-argument full of a personal opinion makes no sense to me. BarntToust ( talk) 01:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep the photographs have distinct and substantial commentary Scu ba ( talk) 00:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- KEEP since this is a rather obvious example of a notable photograph. No idea why @
LilianaUwU nominated this for deletion. Going through the user's profile, this initiative to delete this photograph seems to arise out of a rather partisan outlook towards Trump rather than an objective understanding of articles about notable photographs
daruda (
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00:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- This photograph fulfills the nessicary criteria for use and an article beyond a context. I'll have to agree personally on how it seems the nominator has a personal bias, but I should not want to say anything definitive, like you, with the key absolving word "seems" making this only an observation, not an accusation. BarntToust ( talk) 01:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- exactly, I do not like Trump nor do I agree with practically anything of his, but that does not take away from the fact that this photo is incredibly important and will go down in the history books. 174.26.132.119 ( talk) 01:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ Dadude sandstorm: Please assume good faith and don't cast aspersions about alleged bias. Di (they-them) ( talk) 01:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I couldn't care less about who the dude in the picture was. If it was Biden, I'd have the same reasoning. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 02:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Cleary a separate notable topic with wide coverage Bloger ( talk) 01:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Vote to Keep, as per the countless keep votes above me, a historic photo. Politely and respectfully speaking, the OP's participation history leaves me and other people thinking about the vexatious component to this particular nomination!
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01:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- "Politely and respectfully speaking" doesn't automatically make your aspersions polite and respectful. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 02:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Iconic photographs such as this usually warrant their own articles. With the amount of attention this photo in particular is receiving, both from supporters of Trump and the media, I believe the article is appropriate. NorthropChicken ( talk) 01:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lean Keep: Photograph has substantial coverage as an image, separate from the event it depicts. Seems comparable to the Trump's mugshot, in which there are separate articles covering his arraignment and the mugshot as an image. -- CamAnders ( talk) 01:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into Public image of Donald Trump or Attempted assassination of Donald Trump. This is not really an independent subject, and frankly it's way too soon to know if there will be any lasting legacy for these photos. This seems to be a very redundant content fork of a subject that can be adequately covered in either of the other articles. Di (they-them) ( talk) 01:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Unsure why user wanted to delete this photo. It's already received enough news coverage to warrant its own page.
Twinbros04 (
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01:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I have to admit, there comes a point that in a dire context like this, it can never be too soon to say that something coming from a historic event is going to have an impact. Nobody would say this, much less the entire article's worth, if it were not impactful meaningfully. Trump would never had a mugshot to hold its own article had he not engaged in criminally questionable activity, its own thing as well. same logic. 2600:2B00:9639:F100:282D:933B:D824:B63 ( talk) 02:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The
Mug shot of Donald Trump is very similar to the image of Trump with his fist raised in terms of spread & use, and that page was created the day after the mugshot was taken. It appears that an image (especially of Trump) can be called 'iconic' or 'noteworthy' this quickly in this day & age. I can't think of a reason why that page gets to stay up but Trump's raised fist gets taken down.
jan Janko (
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02:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep , a pretty significant photo in itself, does deserve to have an article about it itself
- Waleed ( talk) 02:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Starting to think that it is a rather iconic picture. I can't really snow close/withdraw with so many people wanting to merge, though.
LilianaUwU (
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02:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- All four of them wanting it not its own article, opposed to 15 for. Remember, this isn't a majority vote, but rather a test of logic. Logic trumps all. BarntToust ( talk) 02:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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List of EGOT winners of Filipino descent
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As it appears there is only one winner of EGOT of Filipino descent that fits the criteria, this list article fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:NLIST. Nominations for awards alone are not typically enough for notability unless it's multiple per WP:ANYBIO. Raladic ( talk) 02:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Nirad Solanki
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There is a lot of refbombing in this orphan article. Whilst a lot of the coverage confirms he bought businesses and bars, none of this is indepth to meet WP:SIGCOV. Just a run of the mill businessman that doesn't meet WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 02:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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For the Freedom of Nations!
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There is little to indicate that this one-time 2024 event has notability. There is a lot of sourcing but little of it is reliable. Of the few RS that are cited, they make off-hand one-sentence mentions of this event or they explain the insignificance of the event. thena ( talk) 21:10, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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- A number of the cited sources may have a pro-Russia slant, but it also cites some directly critical sources under "criticism" and just looking it up on google I also found
this bit of sigcov from a more generally anti-Western Turkish source; ONEEVENT is certainly a concern but it is also possible the sources required are simply spread out over many different languages that we only need more time and input to compile.
Orchastrattor (
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22:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- The European Council on Foreign Relations citation seems perfectly admissible for GNG in particular. Orchastrattor ( talk) 22:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as it fails WP:SUSTAINED. Plenty of one-time conferences have gained sustained notability (e.g., the Bandung Conference), but this article does not qualify. - Amigao ( talk) 22:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the multiple sources available which indicates that it meets
WP:GNG. The only issue with the article is
WP:Toosoon but this will not affect the article because it is a multinational inter-party movement and it is not likely to die down soon, will rather gather more momentum.
LocomotiveEngine (
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07:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Its sources almost entirely fail the crucial point of "Independent of the subject" per WP:GNG. See WP:TASS for example. - Amigao ( talk) 21:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - I think this event is sufficiently notable. It may be a little early to judge ref WP:SUSTAINED but, @ Amigao it’s import to pay due regard to WP:NTEMP. I agree with @ Thena and @ Orchastrattor that the references are poor and fall short of the standard described by WP:RELIABLESOURCES. I’ve done some cursory research and there are some western perspectives available that could compliment the pro-Russian sources currently in the article. (NB - Orchastrattor is being generous when they say. ‘May have’)
- TLDR/ Improve references. Too narrow.
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00:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- If it's too early to judge WP:SUSTAINED then it's WP:TOOSOON for this article to exist. - Amigao ( talk) 12:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Agree with Amigao. Also I can't help but be suspicious when a new user just creates an article as their first edit
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08:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Absolutely tendentious rationale, just about every worthwhile article I've ever seen on AFC has come from a brand-new account or an IP. Orchastrattor ( talk) 18:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to draft pending development of sources demonstrating sustained notability. BD2412 T 01:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Too Lost (company)
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Still unclear if there's enough independent coverage for WP:NCORP.
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- Delete: Fails the NCORP sourcing criteria as most of the sources are routine announcements, trade publications or brief mentions. S0091 ( talk) 15:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Sohom ( talk) 01:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Thomas Matthew Crooks
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WP:BLP1E. Only notable for one crime, nothing else. Can be covered enough in Attempted assassination of Donald Trump. No need for an article, and honestly needs to not have an article to respect our policies on recently deceased persons given the fact that most of what exists about him is speculation. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez ( User/ say hi!) 01:35, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy keep and close --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. RodRabelo7 ( talk) 01:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Tried to withdraw but I was not fast enough. I thought TW would show prior AfD but it did not do so. Please feel free to delete this page under G6 if possible. Apologies for the trouble. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez ( User/ say hi!) 01:38, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy keep & close article has already been AfD'd like 3 times, all of which have been closed. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 01:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Mott family murders
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Fails NEVENT. All sources are from the week this happened, no follow up, failing WP:SUSTAINED. In addition, familicides are by far the most common kind of mass murder and tend to receive the least coverage, so the odds that this will receive any kind of retrospective coverage when coverage has ceased, especially since it's been two years with nothing, is slim to none. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 01:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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TFhost
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I'm not seeing much third party coverage, likely to fail WP:CORPDEPTH. Unclear how much weight should be given to those awards. KH-1 ( talk) 03:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Hi, as per WP:CORPDEPTH there a couple more recent references made even before this listing, https://von.gov.ng/website-hosting-firm-advocates-enhanced-data-protection-measures/ , https://dailytrust.com/cybersecurity-firm-urges-nigerians-to-guide-their-data-online/ . This nomination for deletion should be rescinded in my opinon 4555hhm ( talk) 13:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)- The awards are verifiable especially those from NIRA, the Authority Domain Registry in Nigeria. The information on the awards is stated on NIRA website as per https://www.nira.org.ng and that has a lot of weight. 4555hhm ( talk) 13:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Kristofer Karlsson
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. The links provided are all primary. Could not find third party coverage of this individual. LibStar ( talk) 01:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Girl Geeks Scotland
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Fails WP:ORG. 3 of the 4 sources are dead. The remaining source [1] is a small mention. LibStar ( talk) 01:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Trump raised fist photographs
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WP:REDUNDANTFORK of Attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Should be merged to the above mentioned article. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 00:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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LilianaUwU (
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00:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: the photos are indeed directly related to the assassination attempt, but have found distinct commentary, interpretation, and coverage as something more. WP:DROPTHESTICK on these deletion noms, please. BarntToust ( talk) 00:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, clearly notable given the amount of commentary on this image specifically. While it is a picture of the assassination attempt, it has gotten a lot of commentary based on it's use and composition. Personisinsterest ( talk) 00:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Csg95 ( talk) 02:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Clearly notable, also per @ BarntToust can we please Wikipedia:DROPTHESTICK. LuxembourgLover ( talk) 00:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Cleary a separate notable topic with wide coverage of the photos and not the actual attempt to kill past and potentially future President of the USA. With regards, Oleg Y. ( talk) 00:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge: This certainly warrants its own section on the original article, but not its own article.
SlyAceZeta (
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00:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Patently false, since notable photographs have their own articles, not some nonsense concept of just being a subsection for the broader topic daruda ( talk) 00:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or Delete Astropulse ( talk) 00:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump. All of the relevant information is covered there in a few concise paragraphs. Per WP:PAGEDECIDE, it's better to keep topics that provide each other context in the same article when possible. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 00:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep since it is / was widely reported on by a number of notable media outlets and extremely popular on social media. Also suggest we get a non-cropped version at low resolution to illustrate the article. User:WoodElf 00:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or delete it. This serves no purpose other than to elevate Trump as some kind of tough guy. Does Reagan have a dedicated article about the aftermath? Ridiculous.
32.220.216.27 (
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00:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Biased IP user with a low IQ take eh? not surprised. the point isn't trump, the point is the photograph. and 'raising the flag on iwo jima'/ ground zero both have articles. daruda ( talk) 00:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Let's maintain WP:NPOV when providing reasons for deletion. User:WoodElf 01:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- this IP user does not seem to be giving a proper train of thought for any reason. They seem to be bringing aftermath of Reagan into this, and that is not really an "iconic, widely-discussed and notable" photograph sort-of-thing. This non-argument full of a personal opinion makes no sense to me. BarntToust ( talk) 01:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep the photographs have distinct and substantial commentary Scu ba ( talk) 00:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- KEEP since this is a rather obvious example of a notable photograph. No idea why @
LilianaUwU nominated this for deletion. Going through the user's profile, this initiative to delete this photograph seems to arise out of a rather partisan outlook towards Trump rather than an objective understanding of articles about notable photographs
daruda (
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00:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- This photograph fulfills the nessicary criteria for use and an article beyond a context. I'll have to agree personally on how it seems the nominator has a personal bias, but I should not want to say anything definitive, like you, with the key absolving word "seems" making this only an observation, not an accusation. BarntToust ( talk) 01:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- exactly, I do not like Trump nor do I agree with practically anything of his, but that does not take away from the fact that this photo is incredibly important and will go down in the history books. 174.26.132.119 ( talk) 01:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ Dadude sandstorm: Please assume good faith and don't cast aspersions about alleged bias. Di (they-them) ( talk) 01:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I couldn't care less about who the dude in the picture was. If it was Biden, I'd have the same reasoning. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 02:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Cleary a separate notable topic with wide coverage Bloger ( talk) 01:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Vote to Keep, as per the countless keep votes above me, a historic photo. Politely and respectfully speaking, the OP's participation history leaves me and other people thinking about the vexatious component to this particular nomination!
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- "Politely and respectfully speaking" doesn't automatically make your aspersions polite and respectful. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 02:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Iconic photographs such as this usually warrant their own articles. With the amount of attention this photo in particular is receiving, both from supporters of Trump and the media, I believe the article is appropriate. NorthropChicken ( talk) 01:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lean Keep: Photograph has substantial coverage as an image, separate from the event it depicts. Seems comparable to the Trump's mugshot, in which there are separate articles covering his arraignment and the mugshot as an image. -- CamAnders ( talk) 01:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into Public image of Donald Trump or Attempted assassination of Donald Trump. This is not really an independent subject, and frankly it's way too soon to know if there will be any lasting legacy for these photos. This seems to be a very redundant content fork of a subject that can be adequately covered in either of the other articles. Di (they-them) ( talk) 01:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Unsure why user wanted to delete this photo. It's already received enough news coverage to warrant its own page.
Twinbros04 (
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01:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I have to admit, there comes a point that in a dire context like this, it can never be too soon to say that something coming from a historic event is going to have an impact. Nobody would say this, much less the entire article's worth, if it were not impactful meaningfully. Trump would never had a mugshot to hold its own article had he not engaged in criminally questionable activity, its own thing as well. same logic. 2600:2B00:9639:F100:282D:933B:D824:B63 ( talk) 02:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The
Mug shot of Donald Trump is very similar to the image of Trump with his fist raised in terms of spread & use, and that page was created the day after the mugshot was taken. It appears that an image (especially of Trump) can be called 'iconic' or 'noteworthy' this quickly in this day & age. I can't think of a reason why that page gets to stay up but Trump's raised fist gets taken down.
jan Janko (
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02:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep , a pretty significant photo in itself, does deserve to have an article about it itself
- Waleed ( talk) 02:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Starting to think that it is a rather iconic picture. I can't really snow close/withdraw with so many people wanting to merge, though.
LilianaUwU (
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02:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- All four of them wanting it not its own article, opposed to 15 for. Remember, this isn't a majority vote, but rather a test of logic. Logic trumps all. BarntToust ( talk) 02:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)