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I understand that your issue is that you want to use artist depictions in astronomy infoboxes. Why can't you just do that. Why do you have to revert ALL my edits ????? And then archive discussions out of sight. Do you have a bee in your bonnet or are you genuinely interested in Wikipedia as a collaborative project ?--
EvenGreenerFish (
talk) 02:16, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
I understand that your issue is that you want to use artist depictions in astronomy infoboxes. Why can't you just do that. Why do you have to revert ALL my edits ????? And then archive discussions out of sight. Do you have a bee in your bonnet or are you genuinely interested in Wikipedia as a collaborative project ?--
EvenGreenerFish (
talk) 02:16, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
@
MarioProtIV: May I ask why you archived EvenGreenerFish's earlier post on your talk page without responding to it.--
Jasper Deng(talk) 07:10, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
I was a bit busy and I must've forgotten to respond when I archived it. Sorry about that. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 12:50, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
April 2017 storms
I think
this is a different weather system. Starting April 23, we had a lot of rain in North and South Carolina and the flooding is quite serious if you compare the river levels in this article to
Hurricane Matthew. I seem to recall tornadoes with this system too. How we do it other than going to the person who did most of the edits I don't know, but it seems there are two systems which can have their own articles in April 2017, or perhaps two systems that could be part of one article.—
Vchimpanzee •
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As far as I'm aware the April 23 system didn't have that much tornadoes but for the flooding it may need an article in the future, IMO. Would just have to get some consensus from higher up people for that. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:43, 30 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Now that I remember there was another system that produced tornadoes in the South before the one we are dealing with currently came in. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)reply
@
MarioProtIV: I can understand why you removed some of my edits since I'm new here but one of the EF0 tornadoes from edit 778063642 was removed as well as another EF0 that needs to be added in.
WeatherDudeEF5 (
talk) 02:56, 1 May 2017 (UTC)reply
If there are more storms today we may have to move the article to a new name that includes May. Maybe the old title can apply to the system from last week.—
Vchimpanzee •
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The tornadoes from yesterday and Saturday were part of the same system that produced the floods in the Central US over the weekend. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 15:39, 1 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep in mind the flooding occurring right now in the Carolinas is from rain that fell last Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. I'm sure that's a separate system from what is causing problems now. I fast-forwarded through the local news last night and the damage that I could see even then was pretty bad. I assume those are the tornadoes you are referring to.—
Vchimpanzee •
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Just got finished looking at some real newspapers. No references to tornadoes. I'll work on the Carolinas flooding and see how we can get that into an article.—
Vchimpanzee •
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There was a discussion that took place in regards to a similar situation in a different article. Basically, it was discussed whether or not a section showing the most intense tropical cyclones by category should be included in the article
List of Atlantic hurricane records. For example,
Hurricane Alex of 2010 was the most intense Category 2 hurricane, with a pressure of 946 mbar,
Isidore the most intense Category 3 hurricane (934 mbar),
Opal (916 mbar), and
Wilma (882 mbar). This is an analagous situation, and even though Opal was the most intense Category 4 Atlantic hurricane, there seem to be no sources which state this verbatim. The link to the full discussion is here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Undescribed&oldid=777849061 --
Undescribed (
talk) 16:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)reply
2010–11 North American winter
--
Anonymous Ryan (
talk) 20:19, 2 May 2017 (UTC) I completed the article for the 2010-2011 winter season. This page was created by the user "master of time" I added the events and seasonal forcast sections.reply
Stephanie
Can you please stop creating an article for Stephanie and respect the consensus formed at [
[1]]. Otherwise you may find yourself being blocked from editing.
Jason Rees (
talk) 16:09, 7 May 2017 (UTC)reply
That consensus was only because the unofficial name was used for the page name. I didn't use that title, rather I used it in a format similar to
2006 Central Pacific cyclone. Please take it to the page's talk page before jumping to conclusions. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 16:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Mario, I would also say you should stop using the "Reverted good faith edits by..." option of Twinkle for edits by experienced editors. Since experienced editors know to
assume the assumption of good faith, it could be viewed as condescending. This revert option is mostly intended for well-intentioned but misguided edits by new users. I recommend "restore this revision" instead if you need to. Even then, your conduct in this particular case was heading towards
edit warring. Please do heed the warning @
Juliancolton: gave you last month, or we may have to consider restrictions on your ability to edit here, which we would stringently prefer not to do.--
Jasper Deng(talk) 19:03, 7 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Got it, will try to keep it cool with both that and the GF edits. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)reply
A barnstar for you!
The Resilient Barnstar
I know it's annoying when we revert, merge, or change your contributions, but that's only because have a solid hold on project standards, and because we all went through our own trail/error phase too. Take this barnstar for being on top of all things Wiki for both severe weather and tropical cyclones, and for not giving up on us yet. ;) TropicalAnalystwx13 (
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Tropical Storm Arlene
For the record I am fine with having an article if editors agree to it via a second discussion on the matter. -
Knowledgekid87 (
talk) 15:52, 16 May 2017 (UTC)reply
I saw that you had worked on the draft. I want to thank you for your hard work in trying, but we have to respect the other members of the project as well regardless of the outcome. This is how it is sometimes, I hope you aren't discouraged. -
Knowledgekid87 (
talk) 16:06, 16 May 2017 (UTC)reply
A page you started (Tornado outbreak and floods of April 28 – May 1, 2017) has been reviewed!
Please refrain from creating a level 2 header called "Other systems", with level 3 headers of "Tropical depression", as it defeats the purpose of having one altogether. The purpose of an other systems section is for systems that are either a) not officially warned on or b) (and this mostly applies to older systems) doesn't really have much information, so giving it a full blown section would lead to excess whitespace. Regards.
YEPacificHurricane 20:22, 29 May 2017 (UTC)reply
TD Cindy
What the storm's winds are is irrelevant to whether we continue to display information. Remember that unlike all the other categories, tropical depression does not have a lower bound. Cindy is still an active tropical cyclone according to the WPC. As long as that is the case, we display information. If you disagree with that, you're free to bring it up on the project page, but I don't think you'll have much luck given what I've told you above. TropicalAnalystwx13 (
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Isaac
Do you think Hurricane Isaac in 2012 can be a primary topic? --
219.79.127.186 (
talk) 02:05, 27 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Could we possibly avoid having so many requested moves/page moves just to knock the year off and make something the primary topic. It isnt like the world is going to end just because the article for the name Isacc has the 2012 on it, lets just use some common sense with this stuff please.
Jason Rees (
talk) 17:49, 27 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Given that the 82 incarnation of Isaac is one of the worst Tonga cyclones, I'd say no.
YEPacificHurricane 23:50, 27 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Dora image
Hey, there. Me and @
ChocolateTrain: have discussed regarding to the Hurricane Dora image situation that has been going on (see
User talk:Typhoon2013#Hurricane Dora image). ChocolateTrain's image is pretty acceptable in my opinion and he did discussed the "goods and the bads" of our versions.
Typhoon2013(talk) 21:42, 1 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Lester 2016
Do you think we need an article for Lester in 2016, as it was one of the two tropical cyclones to threaten a direct hit on the Big Island? --
219.79.181.53 (
talk) 13:03, 16 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Suomi Images
Please stop reverting my edit images. The Suomi-NPP images I made are much better than their previous ones. Especially, please make an explanation to your edit summary containing why. I have reverted your edits and have uploaded more Suomi images.
Typhoon2013(talk) 00:28, 17 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Naval Research Laboratory
G'day MarioProtIV. I have a question about how to do something, and as I have seen you do it before, I thought you'd be the one to ask. How do you get colour images from the
Naval Research Laboratory page? You got our recent image for Hurricane Harvey from there, but all I can ever get is black-and-white images. No matter what I press, I never get colour. Could you give me some instructions on how to get a colour image? For example, how do you get to the image you uploaded to Commons from the page I linked above? Thanks.
ChocolateTrain (
talk) 05:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Why are you
reverting the text I added to the lead? It is unencyclopedic to start an article mentioning the subject's importance without first properly describing it. For example, the
Jeff Bezos article does not begin with, "Jeff Bezos is the richest man in the world." The article had a proper lead until you changed it on
29 October 2016.
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Just thought I'd drop a line to say thank you for using a proper infobox image for
K2-72e. Works really well on this page, much better than an concept image, and the article reads well too. nice work! --
EvenGreenerFish (
talk) 12:09, 5 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Hina
FYI we take 1-min winds from the JTWC BT and not scientific journals.
Jason Rees (
talk) 15:35, 16 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Page move
So much for the process I tried to lay out. If you were so rushed, you couldn't just move the draft over the redirect at
Hurricane Maria (2017)? And what's the deal with you always requesting that Cyclonebiskit move pages but you totally bypass that step this time around?
Master of Time(talk) 16:55, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
He already gave his reasoning for the move: it was rapidly becoming a threat and no one was moving the draft.
Jdcomix (
talk) 17:14, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Hurricane Maria (2017) was only a redirect, so he should have been able to just move the draft over it since he was autoconfirmed long ago. Plus, since Wikipedia is not a news source, it is perfectly acceptable to wait a brief period for an administrator to move the page if need be (although it shouldn't have been needed here). Fragmenting the page's history, though, should never have been on the table. This should all be fixable, but it will take a little while.
Master of Time(talk) 19:13, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Master of Time: I'll be sure to move it over the redirect next time we have a draft for a storm rather then fragment it. But like Jd said I was wanting to get it quickly out and about. Obviously I see that didn't really work as much as I hoped it would. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:26, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
I'm not questioning your intentions or anything; it's just that there were better ways to handle this. Not much else to be said, at this point.
Master of Time(talk) 19:29, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
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Jdcomix (
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Image
The image you provided for hurricane Maria has a while half circle which disrupts the image. The image I have uploaded is clearer. Please don't change it. Thank you.
Toonami1997 (
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That one isn't updated regularly, and the image I put regularly gets updated so it should be gone by the next update. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 21:13, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Unofficial Records
Please stop adding unofficial records to
2017 Atlantic hurricane season. The current damage costs are estimates, not official tallies. Including unofficial records is misleading. It is like how the unofficial start of summer is Memorial Day. Did summer actually start on Memorial Day? No, it starts in late June. These damages are just estimates so until the actual damages are tallied, no records have been broken. I will be taking this to the talk page for discussion. I just wanted you to know where I and a few other people are coming from. You are more than welcome to participate in the discussion. Cheers, --
Figfires (
talk) 21:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Im going to ask again... Please do not add any records to
2017 Atlantic hurricane season until the final damage totals are released. An unofficial record is false information. It either is a record or it isn't. --
Figfires (
talk) 17:24, 27 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Why did you create this redirect before the system was named in NHC advisories? We shouldn't be prematurely creating redirects just because a system will probably be named (and for this advisory, it was not).
Master of Time(talk) 20:48, 4 October 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Maater Of Time: - it really doesn’t matter when a redirect is made. You could make them for the rest of the names in the season, and it wouldn’t matter. Ditto the next five naming lists. Since the media was reporting on a potential Hurricane Nate affecting the US in a few days, I think it was beneficial, actually.
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Would you please expand it and fix the text, or at least give an indication of when would be the time to make the page more than just a redirect page, instead of just hitting the Undo button?
50.235.102.246 (
talk) 18:58, 6 November 2017 (UTC)reply
2017–18 North American winter
It has been a year and a half since your most substantive contributions (text / byte-wise) to articles in the North American winter series (i.e. season articles, not articles for individual systems), and I don't know if you're still very interested in winter season articles, but there is another article located at
Draft:2017–18 North American winter. I created it shortly after the NOAA outlook was released. I'd consider moving it to mainspace, but some edits were unexpectedly made to the redirect, blocking a page-move for the time being. At the least, maybe you could watch it for later, when winter actually gets into full swing with significant systems. You're a capable writer (and I noticed your name popped up in the revision history of the redirect), so I thought I'd mention it!
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I just wanted to tell you to calm down and don't get too excited. As per your edits a few days ago where you already considered/declared the end of both the EPAc and Atlantic seasons. Since it has now ended, that does not mean you should create the 2018 Atl and EPac seasons because 1) too early and 2) barely any sources. But the Atlantic I'll deal with that as me and other users had a huge convo about creating the next season articles last year.
Typhoon2013(talk) 00:23, 30 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Season doesn't end till 0z tomorrow as TWO's are still being issued. 23.5 hours too early. Otherwise, I agree with Typhoon2013.
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Thank you for helping to fill in the section! Don't forget that the Weather Prediction Center has
winter storm summaries. Hope that's useful.
Master of Time(talk) 03:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Which I want to know why, why do you move/merge an article without any reason. I easily reverted all of your edits and the Haikui article will still be up. Don't worry I'll add more if you're not satisfied.
Typhoon2013(talk) 00:05, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
If that's all there is for impact, then, yes, a case could be made for merger, although given that the 2017 PTS page is over 100kb, more leniency should be shown. I also don't know why any impact wasn't moved during the merger.
YEPacificHurricane 04:34, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
HURDAt
The project consensus has always been to use HURDAT as the official source for intensity, which will be updated when the results of the 1960-65 reanaylsis are approved by the hurricane best track committee as @
Cyclonebiskit and
Thegreatdr: will tell you.
Jason Rees (
talk) 02:03, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
So then where do we put the info regarding the new intensities? They should at least be known and I’d prefer taking this to the WPTC talk page rather then mine. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 02:09, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
For now it can be noted in the article but until its official (which it isnt yet, since its still being looked at by NHC) we do not change the formal windspeeds.
Jason Rees (
talk) 02:11, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Mention it in prose but since HURDAt hasn’t been updated yet. Also Mario, if you’re curious about precedent, look in that age histories next time before starting an edit war.
YEPacificHurricane 02:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
I don't know when 1960-1965 updates will occur. I think the review passed 1963 and then the overall progress stopped as last season ramped up. Once the TCRs are out, progression might occur. I wouldn't expect it this April. Next April maybe.
Thegreatdr (
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Reference on 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season article
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Lan damages
I have offered the source that Lan caused a total of USD 845 million in damages, and which source says that the figure was 1 billion?
Typhoon2017 (
talk) 11:43, 22 December 2017 (UTC)reply
It says "were likely to exceed USD1.0 billion" but doesn't imply certainty. The wording makes it obvious that that damage estimate isn't final.
The Nth User I have no ideas for what to put here.
Care to differ or discuss? 02:50, 2 January 2018 (UTC)reply
On the above website, how should I register my account and where can I find the document you gave me when I mentioned Lan damages?
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Would you please stop removing sections about winter storms? Recently, you undid additions of storms twice in a span that was less than ten minutes (
first time;
second time) under the pretext of non-notability. You have also removed kilobytes of information about winter storms at several instances earlier this month. Given that the people who added the storms apparently think that they're notable enough, you should think twice and possibly ask for another opinion before deleting the authors' hard work. Also, some of the "non-notable" systems that you deleted subsections for seem clearly notable to me. For example, I have found that you, in multiple reversions, undid the additions at least two different systems, each of which knocked out power for hundreds of thousands of people (
first reversion;
second reversion). While you have not violated
the fine text of The Three-Revert Rule, you have clearly violated its spirit, with two reversions of the same type of edit (addition of winter storms as subsections of the Events section) giving the same justification (non-notability), and I view your reverts as hindering the development of
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The Nth User I have no ideas for what to put here.
Care to differ or discuss? 03:18, 29 December 2017 (UTC)reply
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Care to differ or discuss? 04:35, 29 December 2017 (UTC)reply
== Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion ==
Just to note that the 2018 season really has not started yet because it developed in 2017. Otherwise we'll wait for other users like JR, though I did mention him about it in the 2018 talk page.
Typhoon2013(talk) 00:34, 1 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Ah ok. I thought we’d have to edit it a bit since it’s a year crosser and it’s probably gonna be named on the 2018 side. But thanks for clearing that up. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:42, 1 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I just want it to be there in case it gets consensus approval after the talk page section gets archived.
The Nth User I have no ideas for what to put here.
Care to differ or discuss? 02:45, 1 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Hi
I’m a useless Wikipedia user
Sorry for vandalism because i didn’t make my account to vandalize. I made it to fix weather pages.
Weatherlover (
talk) 03:31, 2 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Use-mention
The article is about the weather, not the name of the weather. Can you explain further and/or link to the 5-year-old RFC? Thanks,
NapoliRoma (
talk) 19:40, 3 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Late October nor'easter
Information about the system can be found here:
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Knowledgekid87 (
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Image dispute
I have observed the edit warring between the two of you regarding the image; I honestly don't know which image is better at this time, but I do know that even if you are correct that the original was better, being correct is not a defense to edit warring. Even if the other user does not start a talk page discussion regarding this, you should do so instead of constantly reverting the image. I have warned the other user about this as well and I encourage you both to discuss the matter and reach an agreement.
331dot (
talk) 21:37, 27 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Resolving image dispute
Mario, I don't think we can ever agree on which image of Hurricane Jose is better, and I will still prefer the one I uploaded due to it being consistent with the other images and being closer to the storm's peak intensity. However, I don't want these users getting angry at us about the dispute. Can we try to find a good agreement?
CooperScience (
talk) 22:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Hey there. I've seen you editing for quite a while, especially related to the 2017 AHS. I also notice you haven't written a
WP:Good article, even though it seems like you have a good grasp of how to edit Wikipedia. Are you interested in working on any older articles and improving them? It's clear you have an interest in tropical cyclones, much like my own heart. I've been tracking Atlantic hurricanes since
Hurricane Erin (1995). Anyway, just seeing if you need any help toward improving articles. I've improved my share of WPTC pages and can pass some tips along if you want. ♫
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talk) 23:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC)reply
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Please remember that the whole point of the newer format of SE Charts is that they help the articles meet WP:Verification easier with all of the references added. It also helps with the transferring data from the season articles to lists like the retired names. If you wish to change the format of them then bring up a discussion on WP:WPTC and lets make a format that allows us to sort and reference the tables easier ALL OVER THE WORLD.
Jason Rees (
talk) 22:37, 17 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Costliest storms on Record succession boxes
I have posted a suggestion on the
Non-tropical storms project talk page. Please look at it and let others know about it. (Also please look at my previous post on that page.) Thank you.--
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I noticed your recent edit to
Hurricane Iris does not have an
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B dash (
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Hurricane Harvey
I'm puzzled, may you please tell me why you reverted my edit? It is true! That Hurricane did wipe out the population of Attwater's Prairie Chicken by a huge amount.
Pancakes654
Emily
Do we need an article for Tropical Storm Emily? As it made landfall in Florida and caused some damage. --
158.182.231.226 (
talk) 00:57, 1 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Hurricanes hitting the United States-St. Croix
In the community of nations, best visualized by the nearly 200 flags that fly in front of the UN HQ in NYC, you will not find the flag of the US Virgin Islands, because they are not a a country nor part of any other country than the US. In fact, when you see the flags at the plaza in front of Union Station or around the American History Museum in Washington DC, the United States Virgin Islands flies as proudly as any other state, territorial or District of Columbia flag. Art IV, Section 3, clause 2 of the United States Constitution, the
Properties Clause or the
Territories Clause as well as the recent (2016) Sanchez Valle SCOTUS case makes it clear that it is a territory or property of the United States. This has been settled in the multiple discussions you can find in Wikipedia's
Puerto Rico page.
When a hurricane hits St. Croix, St. Thomas, St. John or the Puerto Rican archipelago, for that matter, the United States has been hit. That's why FEMA, the US Army Corps of Engineers and the US Armed Forces, which don't service anything but the United States in times of disaster, show up to provide disaster relief.
If not the US, which nation has been hit when the eye of the storm passers over St. Croix? If not the US, in what foreign land can you be born and automatically have a US passport issued?
Could we please discuss this, as I think the original phrase should stay.
Pr4ever (
talk) 22:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Just fyi. the usual procedure is to redirect to the first article created on a topic, then discuss the article title. I create articles on events fairly frequently, but perhaps you were not aware of this convention.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 20:36, 2 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Hello, MarioProtIV. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started,
March 6–7, 2018 nor'easter, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:
remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}}
save the page
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You can leave a note on
my talk page if you have questions.
Thanks for the compliments about my work on the MH for Gita and I have no problems with working on the MH for Hola, I will make a start on it shortly.
Jason Rees (
talk) 21:28, 7 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Right its taken me a little while to sort out, but the MH is now virtually up to date.
Jason Rees (
talk) 04:47, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Damages
In my opinon it is not acceptable for an editor to come along and changing damage totals without leaving a source and using "Per most recent NOAA estimate" or "Damage fixes for Tomas and Matthew" in the edit summuary without sourcing it is also not acceptable. The list of Retired Atlantic hurricane names was built up by me, using the damage totals I could reliably source. There are some differences in damage totals but as time allows we need to go through it and check them.
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Merge discussion notice
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B dash (
talk) 12:09, 14 March 2018 (UTC)reply
2017–18 North American winter
Thank you for writing a considerable amount of the event sections in that article. The per-section quality would be much worse without the work you have contributed (I certainly feel it is better than the previous winter's article). I just thought I'd mention it!
Master of Time(talk) 02:14, 17 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Looks like "Winter Storm Uma" is starting up today. I guess in a few days it'll be time for the next article, "March 23–?, 2018 Winter Storm" or "March 23–?, 2018 Snow Storm". This may be the fifth major winter storm for this March.--
Halls4521 (
talk) 20:22, 23 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Please be patient in terms of Jelawat. Doesn't mean the JTWC stopped issuing advisories, doesn't mean you have to take the infobox. The JMA is still warning on it so I will revert you. I know you're excited but be calm please.
Typhoon2013(talk) 17:54, 1 April 2018 (UTC)reply
But actually, in this case, I will not revert you just for the sake that itt isn't 18Z yet and for sure the JMA will stop tracking this. But PLEASE, keep this in mind in for the future as the JMA is the RSMC. Thanks.
Typhoon2013(talk) 18:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)reply
I have warned you again. Please be patient. The JMA still has Jelawat active in their weather maps. You have been here in the past two seasons and this is what we've been doing and you know that. So please wait until the JMA doesn't mention Jelawat in their weather maps.
Typhoon2013(talk) 02:54, 2 April 2018 (UTC)reply
A barnstar for you!
The Resilient Barnstar
Mateo, I mean Mario, you are a very persistent and great editor on Wikipedia, and your efforts in getting the right things done are rewarding of this Barnstar!
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Why wouldn't the section about the Carol name being removed just before Camille was named be relevant?
I passed this by a few people in the project before adding it. It was a well referenced section in an increasingly degrading article which I was trying to improve. Again. Other articles talk about this, implying that it's very relevant to the Camille article. You removed all the improvements I made to the reference section. Why exactly? This doesn't fit the spirit of Wikipedia, from what I can remember.
Thegreatdr (
talk) 03:59, 10 May 2018 (UTC)reply
It's not related directly to the storm, so I'd prefer it mentioned in more depth in one of the TC naming pages.
YEPacificHurricane 15:56, 11 May 2018 (UTC)reply
It is related though. How could it not be? I can see the content being in both sections. If you want it to be in the TC naming pages, that's fine. But some mention of it in this article should be warranted. I checked the length of the content; it doesn't approach undue weight.
Thegreatdr (
talk) 01:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Because it's not related to the actual storm itself. Literally nothing about the storm changes if the storm was named Carol instead of Camile except for the name itself.
YEPacificHurricane 02:05, 21 May 2018 (UTC)reply
One
Number of deaths because Huracán San Felipe II in Puerto Rico: 312, almost 500,000 homeless in Puerto Rico.
This 1928 hurricane cause more damge than María because then we were oppressed by the empire called the USA.
You seem to forget that the death toll in PR from Maria is highly uncertain and is likely >500. Maria also did $90 billion to the island which in 1928 would be higher then the actual damage the 1928 hurricane did in its currency year. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:19, 26 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Game
You're playing a game here and you don't even know what you are doing or the rules on this site. It's not a revert to add to info. Thus I did not break a rule, however you have broken the three revert rule. Also it's clear from your actions in the past you are doing this often and upsetting others. Watch your actions although it's too late in this instance. You can learn however.
Furthermore you are in error. Additionally you get very involved in certain articles, particularly storms. Lastly, you don't seek remedies or use talk pages properly.
Please stop your
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The only reason why you're not blocked for breaking 3RR here is that this is the third instance of Bleucheeses blatantly edit warring in the past couple of days. Count yourself lucky and please don't misuse warning templates. --
NeilNtalk to me 13:38, 30 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Got it, I’ll try not to run into situations like that again. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 13:51, 30 May 2018 (UTC)reply
So you think I don’t live in Puerto Rico? Just check my page, don’t be ignorant. And because I live in Puerto Rico I know the worst hurricane was not Huracán María.
Sixty Minute Limit (
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Hi There. I left a similar message on the Talk Page of
User:Horsewriter10 as well asking to move the debate onto the Talk Pages. Not my area of expertise, so I can't comment on the substance of the dispute, but an edit war doesn't do anyone any credit. Thanks. --Legis (
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Just wanted to ask for your opinion on
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Hurricane Maria deaths issue
You should probably give your input at
the discussion here. I would like to comment sometime soon, but right now, I'm getting tired of this, and I'm sure you're more informed on the latest hurricane death toll counting than I am. I agree with you, but if this keeps up, another ugly edit war could break out. I suggest bringing more contributors into the discussion as well, especially if he isn't as willing to listen.
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Hector
Per the text of JMA's
WWJP25 marine bulletin at 18z, Hector was still active. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 1014 HPA AT 33N 166E NORTH 10 KT.
Jason Rees (
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B dash (
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Florence
Im sorry, but the current infobox needs to remain as WPC is still issuing advisories on the active flood threat posed by Florence. Until they issue the last advisory, it should stay. We did the same thing when NHC issued advisories on the Remnants of Beryl earlier this year.
FigfiresSend me a message! 21:37, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I don't know why you're so insistent on removing it. There's no need to as long as more information via advisories is coming in.
YEPacificHurricane
"Breaks format"
Could you please explain your
edit summary? I made edits to several parts of the article, and I'm not sure which one "broke" the format. Λυδαcιτγ 06:42, 18 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Please challenge the charts on the
talk page instead of simply removing them. The charts were readded after no objections were made in the discussion.
FigfiresSend me a message! 17:10, 22 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Talk page etiquette
Users are
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Violation of WP:Page Blanking
Your removal of Sergio has been reverted because it is in violation of
WP:Page blanking. The system is likely going to have watches issued tomorrow and will have some kind of impact on Thursday so proposing for deletion now would be uncalled for. There is a decent amount of media coverage on this system and the draft had a decent amount of material. That is why the article exists now. This was considered a violation of the blanking policy because the entirety of the material related to the structure of the storm is absent from the seasonal article.
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Hurricane Michael in comparison with Irma and Maria
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Reverted edit
Since there's no way I know of to PM people on wikipedia, I'm posting this on your talk page. I don't want to start an edit war, but my edit on Maria's article changing her to the deadliest Atlantic hurricane since Mitch instead of Jeanne was reverted, and I'm confused why. Maria caused 3,057 deaths while Jeanne caused 3,037, so Maria is therefore the deadliest hurricane since Mitch. I guess technically she's the deadliest since Jeanne too but I think that is supposed to mean the most deadly hurricane since (insert earlier hurricane that killed more people). Anyway I'm just confused and asking why it got reverted, sorry if this isn't something I'm supposed to do or something along the lines of that.
YellowSkarmory (
talk) 02:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)reply
@
YellowSkarmory: So even though Maria technically killed more people that Jeanne, the reasoning for having Jeanne in the lede instead of Mitch is that the latter system killed over 11,000 people; more than 3x the number of fatalities caused by Maria. Since the death toll of Jeanne is similar to Marias total, it is more reasonable to say that Maria is the deadliest Atlantic hurricane since Jeann. Comparing Maria to Mitch is a little much.
Undescribed (
talk) 13:50, 27 October 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Undescribed: Ah, that makes sense. Might want to add something saying that Maria caused more deaths than Jeanne, though.
Merging short articles
Hey there Mario. I've been watching your edits this year, and generally you're a nice and productive editor, one that I hope will stick around and continue writing in the future. Keep in mind that this is a collaborative encyclopedia, and there is no deadline, so for
Tropical Storm Vicente (2018), there's no need to merge a new article that recently affected land. As a rule of thumbs, if it's likely there is a lot more information out there, then we don't usually merge the articles. Think of the storm articles as sub-articles of the season article. The 2018 PHS article is already pretty long, so any additional content for Vicente will add more length to an already lengthy season article. ♫
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"In My Feelings" cover art
Hi, I just thought I'd give you a courteous reminder that I checked the song's cover art and its source, I can indeed confirm it is real, according to these sources below:
With that, I insist that you please refrain from making any further reverts removing the artwork. Thanks,
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I have moved both articles to Wikipedia mainspace, after making some revisions. I finally decided that I didn't want access to the articles to be entirely exclusive to me anymore (it seems kind of selfish to keep them there, on further reflection). If those articles end up getting redirected or facing deletion, though, I'll restore them in my userspace as drafts.
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No. 6
Every reliable source reporting on it is calling it an album or LP (another word for album). So you pushing it as an EP on several articles (
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On "these storms"
Is there something about nor'easters that modify the usual rules of English grammar? The
only book I find with terminology like this does include the matching comma, as all English style and grammar guides would suggest. Tell me what you're thinking.
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Odisha,
India on May 3. The storm achieved peak intensity as a near Category 5-equivalent cyclone with 3-minute sustained winds of 215 km/h (130 mph), 1-minute sustained winds of 250 km/h (155 mph), and a minimum central pressure of 937 hPa (mbar). Fani caused over $1.8 billion (2019 USD) in damage in India and
Bangladesh and killed at least 89 people.
Since the last newsletter, twelve systems have formed.
Southwest Indian Ocean
In the Southwest Indian Ocean,
Cyclone Kenneth made landfall in
Mozambique approximately 1 month after
Cyclone Idai, causing widespread flooding and destruction. Overall, Kenneth killed at least 52 people and caused more than $100 million in damage. Additionally, Tropical Cyclone Lorna formed over the eastern portion of the basin in late April and dissipated in early May without affecting land.
Australian Region
In the Australian Region, cyclones
Lili and
Ann formed in early May and both affected land. No deaths were reported, although Lili caused moderate damage in the
Maluku Islands and
East Timor.
South Pacific
In the South Pacific, a tropical depression formed in mid-may, but failed to intensify and dissipated a few days later.
South Atlantic
In the South Atlantic, Subtropical Storm Jaguar formed in late May and lasted for approximately two days before becoming extratropical.
Western Pacific
In the Western Pacific, three weak tropical depressions existed during the first half of May.
North Atlantic
In the North Atlantic, Subtropical Storm Andrea formed on the same day as Jaguar, but failed to intensify and dissipated on the next day.
The Eastern Pacific hurricane season began on May 15.
The Atlantic hurricane season will begin at 2:00 AM EDT on June 1.
The Central Pacific hurricane season will begin sometime after 12:00 AM HST on June 1.
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To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!
Every year, editors new and old help maintain the new season of season articles. The older users are likely used to the standards of the project, such as how to Wikilink and reference properly. Newer users might make mistakes, and they might make them over and over again if they don't know better. If anyone (who happens to read this) comes across a new user, please don't
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Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Welcome.
I also encourage that if you know any tropical cyclone researchers, please speak up and try recruiting them to edit. Veteran editors can't keep editing forever. Life gets busy, and the
real world beckons!
Yellow Evan has been involved with
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This section lists content that have become featured, articles and lists, since the past newsletter in mid-April 2019. From April 14–May 31, 2019, 1
featured article was promoted:
An
awards program for the project began on May 31. It involves 25 levels that may be gained by earning points for completing various actions such as getting good or featured articles. Additional awards will be added in the future.
As of this news letter, there are more articles ranked a
good article or better (1317) than articles ranked B-class or worse (1272), for the first time in the project's history.
Every
Atlantic hurricane season from
1945 to
2007 is rated at least a GA. That is an impressive feat, and an incredibly body of work among many editors.
Cyclone Raja became the 150th
featured article in the project. Thanks to all of the editors and their tireless edits for writing 2.7% of all of Wikipedia's featured articles.
In the 24 hours after
Hurricane Michael's TCR was released, the article on the hurricane was edited 82 times by 18 different users.
In March 2019, the
most popular article in the project was
Cyclone Idai, viewed 231,969 times during the month. The generic
cyclone was 2nd most popular, with 131,080 views. In 3rd place was
Hurricane Katrina with 112,283 views. Included in the top 20 were the 2018 and 19 Atlantic hurricane seasons, hurricanes Michael, Florence, Irma, Maria, and Harvey, and the
1896 Cedar Keys hurricane, which was TFA on March 20th.
Tropical cyclones by year - from 2000 to present, there were 2,490 tropical cyclones of various intensity, causing a collective $1 trillion in damage and 200,000 deaths
Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See
here for the latest, most up to date statistics. As of this issue, there are 150
featured articles and 69
featured lists. There are 142 A-class articles, but that number is subject to change, depending if we mandate that all A-class articles have an A-class review first. There are 956
good articles, meaning it is possible we get to our 1000th GA by the end of the year. There are only 61 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 350 C-class articles, 720 start-class articles, and 141 stub-class articles, with 29 lists and 8 current articles. The number of lists may decrease further as the "Tropical cyclone X" articles continue to be reclassified as set index articles. These figures mean that nearly half of the project is rated a GA or better - including the lists/current/future articles, there are 1272 articles that are below GA status, versus 1317 that are GA or better.
WPTC 15th Anniversary push: some goals for the 15th year of WPTC include the creation or improvement of many other articles listed in
the first section on the WPTC talk page.
Project Goals & Progress
The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.
FYI. (Mainly the 3 newest sections.) Thank You.--
Halls4521 (
talk) 20:08, 4 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Dorian
The revert I feel was unnecassay because the impacts will start soon. I did revert your edit, for the presaid reason. The article needs a basic skeleton. Please keep it. Thanks! --
Wyatt2049 | (
talk) 00:31, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Please read the links, which say to "avoid using smaller font sizes in elements that already use a smaller font size, such as infoboxes, navboxes and reference sections", And don't revert valid edits with the bland and meaningless edit summary of "fix" again. Thank you.–
Muboshgu (
talk) 21:26, 11 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Hurricane Lorenzo image
@
MarioProtIV: Hi there Mario. In general, I can see the logic behind using a peak intensity infrared image of a cyclone over a true colour, full-resolution alternative at a slightly lower intensity. I would tentatively support such a decision for most cyclones, provided that the image is not of unacceptable quality and there is not a true colour image which displays the cyclone at a time of equivalent visual intensity. However, in the particular circumstance of Hurricane Lorenzo, I don't agree that this argument has merit. The infrared image that is currently being used was captured at 01:31 UTC on 29 September, which was not at peak intensity. As it says in the description of the image (I have also verified this from the NHC advisories), Lorenzo is at about 125 knots at the time of the image. To be honest, I would actually say 130 knots is closer to the true intensity at the image time. Now, 130 knots is Lorenzo's intensity in this infrared image as well as in the true colour image taken at 13:39 UTC on 29 September. Given that there is no intensity difference between the images, I am sure you would agree that there is very little else in the way of support for using the infrared image over the true colour one. The true colour image has higher resolution than the infrared image, as well as fully depicting the central dense overcast and banding in full detail, rather than in comparatively rudimentary detail in the infrared version. Additionally, I would contend that using a colour image when it is available is better than black and white in most circumstances, simply due to the fact that you can actually see the colour. Considering all of this, the true colour image does present itself as a more suitable option for use in the article than the infrared one. I hope you can see the merit of this argument and will agree.
ChocolateTrain (
talk) 07:41, 4 October 2019 (UTC)reply
I have undone your edit. The official NHC discussion explicitly cited Dvorak fixes at 130z for upgrading the storm, and with the TC update issued just 40 minutes later, is for all practical purposes the peak intensity (sorry, your "I would actually say 130 knots" is irrelevant). The latter one is clearly weaker, and in any case much less organized. If you are unable to apply the Dvorak technique's eye pattern rigorously, then you are in no position to be assessing intensity on your own.--
Jasper Deng(talk) 07:54, 5 October 2019 (UTC)reply
@
Jasper Deng: Please 'ping' me in the future. I am not a talk page stalker, and I would appreciate a notification message when you are addressing a comment to me. I will in this case concede that I was incorrect to say that the two cyclones were of equivalent intensity. I missed the NHC's mention of the use of the 0130Z infrared imagery in their 140 kn analysis. Therefore, I will accept the the infrared image for use in the article. HOWEVER, that comment in the advisory that the intensity was 140 kn at 0130Z IS THE ONLY PIECE OF EVIDENCE that supports the use of the infrared image on Wikipedia. Had such a comment not been explicitly mentioned, my reasoning would have been correct. According to an interpolation of intensities between consecutive advisories, the cyclone was at a roughly equivalent intensity in both images. Your comment regarding the Dvorak Technique is also irrelevant, because it is not the job of a Wikipedian assign a CI number to a tropical cyclone—it is our job to work with the evidence we are given. It is also not justified for you to say that "the latter one is clearly weaker", because you are comparing apples and oranges—that is, an infrared image and a true colour image. The eye of a tropical cyclone always appears much more distinct and impressive on infrared imagery than on true colour imagery, because some of the obscuring low-level and mid-level cloud disappears or becomes far less visible on infrared, which makes the system seem stronger than it is.
ChocolateTrain (
talk) 08:56, 5 October 2019 (UTC)reply
@
ChocolateTrain: I read about halfway through and to be quite honest, you need to both not
WP:SHOUT and be much more concise (
WP:TLDR). Linear interpolation of intensities is just as ORy as assigning CI numbers, and in any case, published Dvorak T-numbers (especially ADT) prove you wrong. It also does not take an expert to notice that the image you advocated is unrepresentative of the peak intensity, given the rapid onset of the eyewall replacement cycle. You completely glossed over my point concerning the tropical cyclone update as well. We have some leeway for OR when it comes to choosing a picture, but your way of going about it is simply
hand-waving.--
Jasper Deng(talk) 09:10, 5 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Ok I’m not gonna be picky here but can you guys talk about this on your own talk pages? I don’t really need to be getting several notifications because of this argument between you two. Thanks. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 09:19, 5 October 2019 (UTC)reply
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A few years ago, you made an edit to the Kepler-70b page which included this statement:
"The star has a mass of 0.496 M☉ and a radius of 0.203 R☉. ... These statistics were very likely higher then what they were today when it was a red giant, the estimated mass of Kepler-70 before it became a subdwarf, would probably have been around 0.89-0.95 M☉."
Do you have a source for the "0.89-0.95"? I've just put a "Citation needed" tag on it, plus I'm rather curious to know more about Kepler-70's pre-subdwarf existence.
Hey there Mario. I just wanted to check in, see how you're managing during these weird times. ♫
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Doing pretty good thanks for asking! Hope all is well there too :) --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 21:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Nice. Yea I'm doing alright. A lot of my RL work is canceled/postponed for now, so I'm wikiing more than I have in years. ♫
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You pasted the following false information to several articles and they stayed up for years, "However, such moons do not usually form around planets, they would likely have to be captured from afar; e.g., a protoplanet running astray." I have since fixed the articles. You made these edits 4 years ago, but I thought I'd let you know. Please remember to cite sources and look up information to make sure you have something right before editing. Thanks.
146.168.31.85 (
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Hurricane Isaias aftermath
Can you help me with moving some of the content in the
Hurricane Isaias article from impact to aftermath?
ChessEric (
talk) 01:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Do you think that the info about the EF3 tornado should stay in the lead? Someone keeps removing it.
ChessEric (
talk) 18:20, 6 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Atl timetline
I think it's best to keep it at 10 storms per column first. Laura's name is at close proximity with Vicky's bar. It's good to have decent space with the storms.
Typhoon2013(talk) 22:57 UTC, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
I mean it would be nice to reply back.
Typhoon2013(talk) 22:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Sorry I didn’t respond sooner! I am a bit busy with college now so I’m not checking this as frequently. I modified it to the most recent one so that the spacing is that much of an issue between Laura’s text and Vicky. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 01:04, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Weather.com is not often the most usable source, and I’d look for say a Klotzbach tweet or something similar from a professional to back up the RI claim as he is a professional forecaster and tends to follow the NHC’s trends to determine the record. Weather.com sometimes doesn’t do that. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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119.237.237.53 (
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I would also add to the above that you have breached the
three revert rule (
revert 1,
revert 2,
revert 3, and
revert 4). I have fully protected the article instead of blocking you, however if you continue to edit war over the image once the protection lapses, it is very likely you will end up blocked. Please engage with @
Destroyeraa: during the period of protection on the article's talk page so that when the protection expires the edit warring does not continue.
Mifter (
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I admire your strong-mindedness. :) ~Destroyeraa🌀 00:02, 21 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Geostationary images
I would like to know why you removed the Category for Molave's (21W) Geostationary imagery file? Especially with no reason whatsoever?
Typhoon2013(talk) 23:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oops. I must’ve accidentally hit the remove button on my phone while looking at it this morning, because that wasn’t my intention at all to remove it. Not sure how that ended up happening. Sorry! --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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It was already mentioned at the bottom of the lead. Not sure if you caught that and my bad for not saying so. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 04:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Sorry, too fast in reading. Summary are vary important to avoid this.
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Hi MarioProtIV, alot of your edits recently has involved nor'easters and winter events. As such I'm inviting you to this WikiProject! MarioJump83! 01:15, 8 February 2021 (UTC)reply
You have redirected the article I created for the reasons you mentioned on the edit summary yesterday. This article is actually a translation of the
French corresponding article.
I hear your arguments, however can you recreate a specific article on the February 2021 cold wave and eventually remove incorrect/irrelevant content when you would have time to do it ? You are a more experienced user than me, you are particularly interested in meteorology and weather, furthermore there are articles for cold waves in
2019,
2017-2018,
2015, so it would be logic that a similar article exists for 2021 which is regularly regarded as exceptional (it's really rare to have such low temperatures in Texas). --
Martopa (
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A barnstar for you!
The Extra-Tropical Cyclone Barnstar
For continuing to maintain the North American winter articles after all these years, even when there was only a small group of people working on those. Thanks! LightandDark2000 🌀 (
talk) 22:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC)reply
March 2021
You currently appear to be engaged in an
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2017–18 North American winter; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to
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Respectfully, although you may not care what I think, I believe this warning is very unnecessary and a resolution has already been reached.
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WikiProject Non-tropical storms: News and Developments
On the heels of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones revival from 2018–2020, MarioJump83 and LightandDark2000 took the initiative to formally revive this WikiProject on January 15, 2021. Not long afterward, on February 7, 2021, the WikiProject community came to the decision to revive the project newsletter as well. We decided to model the entire WikiProject after WPTC, following a similar format and creating similar project pages for use on WPNTS, since the two projects are closely tied. There was also general agreement among the active editors on WPNTS to coordinate work with WPTC, given the numerous overlaps between the two WikiProjects.
On February 4, 2021, the WPTC and WPNTS communities came together to include WPNTS articles in WPTC's annual competition, the
Cyclone Cup, based on a suggestion from HurricaneCovid. The decision was made as a result of agreement between editors over how non-tropical storms (nor'easters, European windstorms, etc.) are cyclones too, and thus merit inclusion as well. WPNTS editors are now allowed and encouraged to participate in the Cyclone Cup, regardless of whether those editors are a part of WPTC or not. Currently, a number of WPNTS users are participating in the Cup, and we hope you will too!
On February 8, 2021, MarioJump83 introduced our project barnstar, which was accordingly named The Extra-Tropical Cyclone Barnstar. It was named based on a pun in which the "Tropical" word in The Tropical Cyclone Barnstar became more 'tropical', so much that it turned The Tropical Cyclone Barnstar to brown. (Hence the name "Extra-Tropical" and the brown cyclone icon). Since there were no barnstars that were shaped like a comma in the
Meteorology barnstars category, we had to take one which is available.
On February 24, 2021, we came to the decision to model the project newsletter after the WPTC newsletter, The Hurricane Herald. The first step of that was to give our newsletter a name. Agreement was reached on February 24 to use LightandDark2000's suggested name, The Frozen Times, as the name of the WPNTS newsletter. HurricaneCovid assisted in the creation of the logo for the newsletter, and MarioJump83 aided the endeavor as well.
On March 9, 2021, HurricaneCovid first introduced the idea of modeling North American winter articles after tropical cyclone season articles. While a few editors rejected the idea at first, by the next day most users had shown their support for it and the plan was implemented. The improvements were done over a period of 3 days, mainly by HurricaneCovid and MarioProtIV, and involved the creation or modification of several templates, including a timeline, some new infoboxes, and a button template. The implementation of these new templates has only been completed in one season article, and is still unfinished in most.
New articles since the last newsletter
The number of new articles since the last issue are innumerable. Thus, we will not be able to list them all here.
MarioProtIV joined Wikipedia in 2014, although his activity really ramped up in late 2015. He formally joined this WikiProject in early February 2021, just after its revival. Since and before formally joining, he has been one of the most prolific editors in non-tropical storm articles, particularly being a major part of getting
2020–21 North American winter to greater quality and taking the initiative to constantly update the article, as well as other separate winter storm articles. He has also participated in and started several discussions within WPNTS, further influencing the quality of current event articles in the WikiProject. We would like to thank him for his outstanding work, and therefore jointly give him the Member of The Edition award.
HurricaneCovid joined Wikipedia in March 2020, though he began working with weather-related articles and joined WPTC in November. He joined WPNTS in January 2021, just before its revival, although he had begun actively editing extratropical cyclone articles in December 2020. He has been doing constant work on
2020–21 North American winter throughout the North American winter season so far. He has helped write much of the article, with aid from MarioProtIV, as well as numerous other articles for the most major storms. He was present throughout the barrage of winter storms and the Arctic air outbreak in North America, in mid-February, creating most of the articles for storms in that period. He also helped with the revival of the WikiProject, and it was partially his idea to model this newsletter after The Hurricane Herald. For his consistent work to WPNTS, we are jointly giving him the Member of The Edition award for this issue.
LightandDark2000 joined Wikipedia as an IP editor in May 2009, although he didn't register an user account until 3 years later, in May 2012. He became active on WPTC and WPNTS in 2013, formally joining the projects in 2014 and 2016, respectively. He is one of the most-senior active members on WPNTS, as most of the active participants joined in 2020 or 2021. Soon after formally joining, he largely stopped editing Wikipedia on storm-related articles, turning his attention to
MILHIST from 2014–2017, and later took numerous WikiBreaks in 2016 and in 2019–2020, due to real-life activities and college. However, he began making a return to Wikipedia in July 2020, and since then, he has made a full return. In December 2020, he returned to WPNTS, with the start of the climatological winter in North America. He became a main part of the revival and resurrection of WPNTS from January–February 2021, assisting in efforts to revamp the project and helping to coordinate it. During this time, he continued his work on WPNTS articles, including during a historic outbreak of cold temperatures and a barrage of back-to-back winter storms in North America, in February. For his aid in the revival of this WikiProject, and his work on WPNTS articles, we are jointly giving him a modification of the MoTE award.
MarioJump83 first joined Wikipedia in 2013 as SMB99thx, although they first began working with storm-related articles in August 2020. They joined WPNTS in November 2020, quickly becoming the main coordinator and most active user in terms of getting the project restarted. They did outstanding work in terms of modeling the project after WPTC, with the aid of LightandDark2000, and got the project's act together. They took the initiative to formally restart the project in January 2021, and continued work restoring, improving, and creating project pages, including this newsletter. LightandDark2000 was along every step of the way, and helped out MarioJump83 create and improve project pages, modeling after WPTC. We would like to thank their outstanding work in getting the WikiProject together, and are thus jointly giving them a version of the MoTE award.
For the time being, there will be no user nominations, as this WikiProject is currently relatively small; however, once we gain enough participants, we will begin nominating members for MoTE.
Storms of The Edition over the last five newsletters
The February 13–17, 2021 North American winter storm, also referred to as Winter Storm Uri, was a strong and destructive winter storm that affected areas from the
West Coast of the United States, through the
Deep South and Northern
Mexico, to the
Northeast and
Eastern Canada. The second of three major winter storms to affect the continent within the month, the system originated as a powerful
low-pressure area in the Pacific and came ashore as a
frontal system on February 13. The system then dived southward along a trough in the
polar jet stream, while also strengthening, and began producing snowfall in the Deep South. The storm system then began expanding in terms of size, and the main low spawned a secondary low in the
Gulf of Mexico, off the coast of Florida on February 15. As the storm grew more organized, it spawned another low pressure center to the north on February 16, which quickly became the main low-pressure center. When the system exited the continent early on February 17, almost 75% of the continental U.S. was covered in snow, which almost broke a record. The newest low moved up the coast of Nova Scotia, beginning to strengthen faster along the way. It then began to quickly intensify, while approaching landfall on
Newfoundland, reaching a central pressure of 985 millibars (29.1 inHg) by 12:00 UTC on that day. The system then began meandering across the Atlantic, while proceeding to strengthen further, reaching a peak intensity of 960 millibars (28 inHg) on February 19. Afterward, the storm then began weakening rapidly, dissipating southwest of Greenland on February 24.
The storm system resulted in over 170 million Americans being placed under winter weather alerts, reaching as far south as
Galveston, Texas. The swath of snow and ice it produced stretched from
Washington to
Maine. It ranked as a Category 3 winter storm on the
Regional Snowfall Index (RSI) scale, and it became the second of three Category 3+ winter storms to affect North America in February 2021. The system caused over 9.9 million power outages, with 5.2 million in the U.S. and 4.7 million in Mexico, making it the worst blackout event recorded in North America since the
Northeast blackout of 2003. The hardest hit area by both the severe winter weather and long-term power outages was
Texas, with the
2021 Texas power crisis taking place due to the storm. Some long-term power outages in areas of the Deep South lasted over one week long. It also brought destructive
severe weather to parts of the Southeastern U.S., spawning five tornadoes, including an EF2 and a high-end EF3 tornado. In total, the storm resulted in at least 136 fatalities, with 124 in the U.S. and 12 in Mexico, making it the deadliest winter storm in decades. Damage from this system is estimated to cost at least $195 billion (2021
USD), making it the costliest winter storm on record, as well as one of the costliest natural disasters in the modern era.
Other significant storms
Post-Tropical Cyclone Zeta – The post-tropical remnants of Hurricane Zeta began interacting with another storm system on October 29, 2020, as rain overspread the Eastern U.S. However, as a cold front came through overnight allowing a blast of colder air, precipitation began switching over to snow in parts of New England. By the next day, the remnants of Zeta passed south of New England and moved out into the Atlantic, strengthening on the way. Zeta became the first tropical cyclone to produce accumulating snowfall as an extratropical storm since
Hurricane Sandy, resulting in several thousand power outages in New England and up to 6.5 in (17 cm) of snow.
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Storm Filomena – Storm Filomena, the eighth named storm of the 2020–21 European windstorm season, formed over the Atlantic near the Canary Islands on January 7, 2021. It then slowly meandered northeastward, crossing the
Iberian Peninsula over the next few days, producing heavy snowfall on the way. The storm then accelerated east, reaching a peak intensity of 995 millibars (29.4 inHg) and crossing Italy and Greece from January 11–13. Filomena then began rapidly weakening, and dissipated in interior Europe on January 15. It was significant because of unusually heavy snow up to 24 in (61 cm) in the Iberian Peninsula, which caused a total of 5 fatalities. Filomena is estimated to have caused at least $2.2 billion (2021 USD) in damage.
January 31 – February 3, 2021 nor'easter (Winter Storm Orlena) – The January 31 – February 3, 2021 nor'easter, also unofficially referred to as Winter Storm Orlena, the first of three Category 3+ winter storms in February 2021, formed as a powerful low pressure off the Pacific coast on January 25. The slow-moving low pressure meandered off the U.S. West Coast for several days, causing an atmospheric river event and producing heavy rain and snow. On January 30, the weakening low pressure crossed the Rockies and moved into the Midwest, producing a second low pressure off the North Carolina coast on January 31. The second low slowly meandered up the East Coast from February 1–4, reaching a peak intensity of 985 millibars (29.1 inHg) on February 3. The system then accelerated into the Atlantic, weakening and dissipating on February 5. The system caused up to 100 in (250 cm) of snow in the Sierra Nevada and 18–24 in (46–61 cm) in both the
Boston and
New York City metro areas. In total, it caused 7 fatalities and resulted in over 575,000 power outages. The system is estimated to have caused at least $100 million (2021 USD) in damages.
February 15–20, 2021 North American winter storm (Winter Storm Viola) – The February 15–20, 2021 North American winter storm, also unofficially referred to as Winter Storm Viola, the last of three Category 3+ winter storms in February 2021, formed on February 14 as a strong low pressure in the Pacific. The next day, the weakening low came ashore in the West Coast and the main low spawned several other low pressures on February 15, connected by a series of fronts. One of the low pressures to the south quickly took over, moving east over the next few days. It then spawned another low pressure to the east, which moved up the East Coast from February 18–19, becoming a nor'easter. The low reached an initial peak of 990 mb (29 inHg) as it exited the coast on February 19. The system then bombed out, reaching a peak intensity of 952 millibars (28.1 inHg) on February 22. It then slowly began to weaken, while moving northeastward, and dissipating on February 26. The storm brought a second round of snow and ice to the Deep South just days after another destructive storm came through the same areas. In total, the storm resulted in at least 29 fatalities and caused over 4 million power outages. The system is likely to have caused approximately $1 billion (2021 USD) in damage.
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Since this is the first issue of The Frozen Times since the revival of WPNTS, I thought we should have an opinion piece detailing the reasons based on which the revival took place. And the project member who would know these reasons the best would be none other than the main resurrector of the WikiProject, MarioJump83!
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Hello, WikiProject Non-tropical storms! I am the one who first took the initiative of this WikiProject's revival. While most of my work here is mostly related to maintenance work and some coordinating before resigning after the revival of this newsletter (I would like to say that
LightandDark2000 is the coordinator of the project now given he is the only active member to join before 2020), there are reasons why I took the initiative to revive the project.
Firstly, WPTC members, for some reason that was unclear to me, began joining the project in droves beginning in late 2020 and continuing into 2021. This surprised me since normally, people don't join defunct WikiProjects in large numbers. Secondly, many WPTC members, many of them based in either the United States or Europe, continue to edit extratropical cyclone articles, even when climatological winter ends in the Northern Hemisphere. This suggests that there is a space for WPNTS to spring up once again. Third and lastly, WPNTS-covered articles are quite active for a defunct WikiProject. I honestly think that this WikiProject shouldn't have been considered defunct in the first place.
Ultimately, these reasons drove me to revive the WikiProject on the heels of Wikipedia's 20th anniversary
on January 15, 2021. It's short, but it's what I can say for the reasons why I came to the decision to revive this WikiProject. I hope this WikiProject lasts for a long time, even when I'm not present as part of it. MarioJump83!
Hey, I noticed you moved the page to the "...March 17–18, 2021". I always get aggravated when users come in and change the titles, like when it got changed to "Saint Patrick's Day". I deliberately did not name it that and it got moved there anyway. I am glad you moved it back. I tried tagging the original title in CSD to get it moved back to "...March 17, 2021" but the CSD process is backlogged. I didn't proceed with the name change to the 18th because we always go by local time with the tornadoes (UTC confuses the general public – at least in the U.S.). With that in mind, technically this outbreak won't include the 18th until after 05z in a couple more hours. I don't think it'll be a problem though since I'm sure at least a couple tornadoes will occur tomorrow over the Carolinas. But, just a heads up for the future, we go by local time for date splits; this process has worked for years with little difficulty, so it would be best to maintain consistency. Thanks!
United States Man (
talk) 02:40, 18 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The content you added violates
WP:BLP being an unsourced allegation. Please don't add such content without a reliable source.
Schazjmd(talk) 20:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Pirx
Pirx (planet) True mass revealed to be far into the brown dwarf category, redirecting Tags: New redirect Reverted
Your edit has two grave problems: YOu did not provide any reference and you killed a well-developed article. The correct way is no rename and modify Pirx. I could have done this myself, but since you gave no refereences, I just reverted you.
Lembit Staan (
talk) 02:24, 2 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Proxima Centauri b
Hello MarioProtIV, you reverted my removal of the infobox entry for the radius of Proxima Centauri b with the edit message that the
paper is sourced. I think it's appropriate to include the information in the article's body, but not in the infobox. It is after all a guess from a model of the population of a lot of other planets. There is no evidence regarding the actual radius of Proxima Centauri b.
Icek~enwiki (
talk) 10:03, 4 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Masive reverts
Sorry, what is the objetive reason to revert my content?--
Piquito veloz (
talk) 20:12, 9 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Those images are redundant and from what I can see they seem to be not allowed according to what’ve I read on the talk page regarding them. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:13, 9 July 2021 (UTC)reply
MarioProIV, I had to remove your attempt at a report at
WP:AN3 as it was a mess. Meanwhile, Piquito veloz has filed a report against you. I suggest you respond.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 00:55, 10 July 2021 (UTC)reply
None of your arguments apply there, even the pic of the chief template of Kepler-22b appear without labeled sizes because is a pure artist´s concept.
New message in my report --
Piquito veloz (
talk) 14:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)reply
The country in which
the hurricane took place should be included to facilitate those that are not in that nation. --
Jax 0677 (
talk) 16:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)reply
That seems to imply that the storm is from North America and that wording is usually used to describe people. Tropical cyclones are not people so that doesn’t really work. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 16:52, 22 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I am reverting your addition of a date of birth to the infobox and lead of
Andi Matichak. That change needs a citation in the article. Putting "listed on superstarsbio" in the edit summary is not sufficient. Is "superstarsbio" a website, a book, or something else? Please provide a citation if you re-insert the reverted content.
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delting Mid January 2022 winter storm section
MarioProtIV I have nodeced you are undoing my edits on Mid January 2022 winter storm section on the
2021-22 North American winter well you need to stop doing it you have alredy redone my edits 5 times.
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Per
MOS:BOLD, the title generally should not be bolded in the lead. In this case, adding the bolded title only makes the opening sentence more cumbersome and is redundant because the dates are already mentioned in the next line. If consistency is the problem, maybe the others should be changed as well. This practice is commonplace among tornado articles.
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If it is redundant in the sentence simply just remove the date that is mentioned later on. Also, the bolding has not been an issue for the last several years from what it seems with regards to winter storms and is only seemingly a problem now because you’re bringing it up. Winter storms and tornado pages are two different things in this regard (one is a direct system, the other is a general event caused by a parent system) and thus the former has more weight to it. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:04, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The policy still applies, regardless of your feelings. The fact of other articles having it bolded is
WP:OTHERSTUFF.
United States Man (
talk) 20:12, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
How about you stop edit warring and try to get others on board with a policy change. I see you've been warned recently for edit warring with others.
United States Man (
talk) 20:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
As far as I’m aware, you’re the only one instigating this change and no one else has had an issue with this over the last few years (otherwise it would have been brought up already). Plus, regarding
this edit the Texas government officially referred to this as Uri, so the unboldening was not justified there. Also your dialogue here is pretty much encroaching on
WP:RUDE with the tone and whatnot. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The Texas government has nothing to do with what we do on Wikipedia. It was decided in some discussions way back that the TWC names could be italized but not bolded. All others are italized.
United States Man (
talk) 20:50, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
I can’t remember where the discussion is located, but I know that you know we had a discussion that the TWC names would not be bolded. Your latest edit was made out of spite, and if you like consistency as much as you say, you’d want them all to be italized.
United States Man (
talk) 23:19, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Actually, that edit was because
MOS:BOLDALTNAMES states that alternative names can be boldened if there is significant enough attention given to it, which given the fact the Texas government itself referred to the storm as Uri, justifies the bolding. In addition, I do not even recall your point that we have a policy on this and the bolding of titles in general, it’s part of
MOS:BOLD and does not triumph project policy. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:07, 24 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Please make sure to correct talk pages when you do merges. This is the second time you have merged an article without redirecting the talk page nor changing the class to redirect.
Elijahandskip (
talk) 21:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC)reply
P.S. Also, please note that I have undone your revert. The exact reasons given for the initial revert go against the reason you created the blizzard article.
Elijahandskip (
talk) 21:35, 31 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Hello - so you inserted the full proper reference information for a number of references in this article. That is good. I notice that a bunch of the references seem to have been archived, but I could not in a cursory search see who did that step. Do you know if all the references need that step to ensure the pages of the particular websites/organizations are not lost if those pages get taken down? Hope to hear back. Thanks.
174.89.120.209 (
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Also, now that I take a look at your talk page, what I see is a lot of warnings for apparent edit warring and no response.
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Reversion of my closure
Greetings, MarioProtIV. I wasn't originally going to make a big fuss about
this, but after looking at your talk page, I believe a gentle approach would be inappropriate to the situation, as you clearly are not getting other editors' complaints. There is a clear consensus at
Talk:February 13–17, 2021 North American winter storm#Merger that a merge should take place: I say that it is clear because there are five editors who support the merge in various degrees while you alone opposed it. By Wikipedia's standards (and by any standard, really), that is an overwhelming margin of support. Moreover, given that an editor
specifically requested that this discussion be closed, the community clearly feels that discussion has reached an end and that its chosen path should be implemented. However, after merely ten minutes, you reverted my closure, claiming that discussion had fizzled and consensus had never really been reached. There are several issues here. 1) It is never appropriate to unilaterally revert a closure, especially when you yourself were involved in the discussion (see
Wikipedia:Closing discussions#Challenging other closures for correct protocol). 2) That you reverted my closure so quickly after the discussion had been open so long suggests that you were paying attention to the discussion, meaning you could have continued it and further refined the consensus if you wanted; combined with how you have made no effort to do so since then, this gives the appearance that you are
stonewalling rather than truly seeking to refine the consensus. 3) You seem to misunderstand the nature of consensus, which does not need to exhaust all possible arguments and objections; rather, it is based on the strength of the arguments presented, as viewed through the lens of policy by an uninvolved editor. The requirement that the editor is uninvolved is crucial: because you have participated in the discussion, you already have an opinion on the subject, which makes it impossible for you to construct an opinion solely on the strength of other participants' arguments in the same way that an uninvolved editor can.
I am going to be frank with you: because you have already been warned numerous times about this behavior, including twice in the past three days, I seriously considered escalating this to a noticeboard directly. However, I also do not know whether anyone has ever attempted to explain these things to you, so I believed I should take the time to do so and give you a chance to correct your mistakes. With rare exceptions (which are listed
here), you should not make an edit if you know that another editor opposes it; doing so is called
edit warring. (One of the mistakes I made when I was new to Wikipedia was interpreting
WP:3RR as permission to revert up to three times: it's not. Rather it, is a red line that is never acceptable to cross. An edit war can happen even if editors are making only a single revert or fewer per day, if multiple total reverts happen.) When you know somebody disagrees with you, you should stop editing and discuss it on the talk page until everyone is in agreement about the correct course of action, or an uninvolved editor comes and determines what the consensus is. That means no editing to introduce compromises, either; get support for your compromise from the editors supporting the
status quo antebefore implementing it. There are several reasons why editors insist on talk page discussion over editing; apart from the obvious instability it causes, edit summaries have limited room and are therefore not conducive to good discussion and thus to consensus-forming. Moreover, the tone conveyed by reverts (especially multiple reverts) is aggressive (it sorta implies that another editor's edit was so stupid, it's not worth talking with them about it first), which can be upsetting and exhausting and therefore discourage participation, which harms the consensus-building process as well as the project as a whole. (This can be seen in how
Hurricane Noah subsequently "withdrew" his proposed merge
because he doesn't want to deal with any more of your crap, if you would pardon my bluntness.) For all of these reasons, edit warring is one of the biggest behavioral no-nos on Wikipedia, moreso even than outright incivility except in the most egregious cases.
In sum, I ask that you please self-revert your reversion of my closure. I would also seriously rethink your conduct on
Module:Storm categories/categories, as well as in general the manner you go about resolving disputes with others. It is clear from all the warnings you have received that this is a significant, long-term problem and, while I hate threatening people with noticeboard discussions, that seems to be an inevitable next step if you cannot get along better with others. If you have any questions about the consensus-building process, etiquette, or anything else, please do ask; I am more than happy to help you. Best wishes, —
Compassionate727(
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C) 12:59, 22 March 2022 (UTC)reply
My only reasoning for undoing the closure was because I and several others off-wiki had agreed on a different kind of process we’d do with the article (which was why there was a bunch of sources in the section below the discussion. There was not a clear consensus to merge from that discussion off-wiki which was why I undid your edit
in good faith (at least in my view). I will admit I have a bad record of trying to solve disputes with others and the conduct a few days ago was my fault and it shouldn’t have gotten that far. Another factor is probably I sometimes priories off-wiki consensus over on-wiki which can lead to this kind of behavior. I apologise for any damage that I may have brought to the community by this and surely I will engage in more appropriate behavior with consensus. The whole color saga shouldn’t have gotten to where it did but I was at least trying to take other people’s opinions that I received and at least we were able to come to a consensus (or at least a good proposal) that supports both sides. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:58, 22 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Mario, it does not matter whether you believe you had a valid reason to revert a close by an uninvolved editor. As explained above, doing so is NEVER acceptable. Also, I very strongly dislike that you are making these decisions based on what you perceive from off-wiki discussions. You can chat about it on Discord but the only consensus that has any force on Wikipedia is that achieved and documented on-wiki. See also
WP:Canvassing.—
Jasper Deng(talk) 08:07, 23 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I should add that you have a history of not replying to talk page posts of this sort, and then continuing this behavior. This suggests to me that you intend to
ignore or not take seriously others’ concerns, and thus that you’re wasting
Compassionate727 (
talk·contribs)’s time. This attitude is not acceptable, and if continued, will definitely result in your getting sanctioned. I expect that you will prove me wrong and address the concerns brought up here, because 5KB+ is a lot of text to write, and would only be written if they seriously believe you’ll read it.—
Jasper Deng(talk) 18:44, 22 March 2022 (UTC)reply
For what it’s worth I have a bad habit of reading the talk messages here, taking it into consideration but then forgetting to reply (as well as archiving once it gets long enough - I’m a bit lazy to be fair). I take all criticism fairly but I will admit I should be responding to these more so as to not give off a bad impression. Apologies if this made it seem otherwise.--MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:58, 22 March 2022 (UTC)reply
TheresNoTime beat me to the notice. You're not in trouble or anything; I just felt that issue of how the merger should ultimately be closed has grown beyond my capacity to handle on my own, so I brought it up a noticeboard where it will get more attention. We're required to use this specific template to notify you; otherwise, I would have just leave a normal message. You are, of course, welcome to help clarify the situation and give your own opinion. —
Compassionate727(
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No worries, I know that most editors don't realize they're required to give the notices at all. —
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Hi Mario; thanks for upholding the current consensus on Ziegler's article regarding infoboxes. However, please do be aware that an infobox is currently being discussed at at
this thread here. As such, based on how the discussion is going as of writing, I'm inclined to inform you that consensus is likely to change. Just thought I'd point that out. Happy editing!
InvadingInvader (
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So then why do all of the other films of the series like Kills and 2018 were written the way I had it? Very confusing. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 17:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)reply
It is always possible for other articles to get it wrong. We need to follow what reliable sources say the trends are, not try to identify these trends ourselves in the individual reviews.
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Halloween Ends synopsis
Appreciate the additions, but as it stands now, the synopsis reads a bit clunky and seems too long. My intention was to keep it as short as possible, and I thought the "crossing paths" with Michael would already be covered by the "series of events [...]"; the "final (?) confrontation" between Corey and Laurie could also be left out in my opinion as we're really only trying to cover the very basics in the lead. Any idea how we could condense the material?
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At the very least leave the Myers bit in there since that’s still a central theme despite less screen time. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 02:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)reply
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Jasper Deng(talk) 20:15, 25 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Regarding storm tracks
What thing do they violate? Im pretty confused on that
Insendieum ALT (
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Basically, we can’t use the “track” files on new storms since those are the old colors - we have to wait until someone uploads the path version. With older storms they are grandfathered in for now until we can upload new tracks. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:18, 24 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Ohhh alright cant you just enter in |color=new though because I have seen that in other articles before
Insendieum ALT (
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@
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Jasper Deng(talk) 20:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Sweet Jesus
This special advisory is being issued to update the current and
forecast intensity of Otis. Satellite images show that the very
rapid intensification observed earlier today has continued, and the
latest data support an initial intensity of 125 kt. The intensity
forecast peak is updated to 140 kt, category 5 strength, since the
environment isn't forecast to change much before landfall, and there
are no signs of this explosive intensification stopping. This is
an extremely dangerous situation, and all preparations for Otis
should be rushed to completion.
Mother of God...
Noah,
AATalk 00:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Yeah, it’s really bad.
Hurricane Otis - taken care of and it’s now BOLDly the main title. Have at it as I’ve just copied the framework over and it needs a LOT of polishing because of the major threat to land. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:09, 25 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I wrote up a bit on the precursor through the formation of the TS. I dont have time for more rn unfortunately. College...
Noah,
AATalk 00:30, 25 October 2023 (UTC)reply
On 26 October 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Hurricane Otis, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the
candidates page.
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Hello, you deleted a page that I created about the as of now current winter storm in North America and redirected it to the broader page for winter in North America this season. I realize now that I was wrong about when it started, but why did you delete it? There is a page for the
January 8-10, 2024 North American storm complex, shouldn’t there be one for this storm too?
MountainDew20 (
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I have just now seen your newest edit. So, all I have to do is not call it a blizzard, right?
MountainDew20 (
talk) 20:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
There is
a draft in progress for the earlier winter storm (which was responsible for the majority of the deaths currently especially in the South. I may likely create a new one for this current storm, which would likely be at
Draft:January 16–19, 2024 North American winter storm. The title you made was factually inaccurate as the current winter storm had no blizzard conditions or warnings aside from the mountains, which, in the article name POV, is not sufficient enough to leave at the current title. That would likely be the storm I redirected it to, although a better title would be
January 10–13, 2024 North American blizzard since we’ve had many winter storms in a short period of time (similar to the February storms from the
2020–21 North American winter page. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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Hey there, I saw you editing the aforementioned article. I was glad you removed the global warming "juiced up" bit, but was there a reason you removed the part about Hilary's remnants moving across the western US into Canada? ♫
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Mario, I have undone all your edits to the article for reasons I explained in the edit summary. I have told you numerous times now that you should be using edit summaries, yet your edit summary usage rate remains unacceptably low. Your edits frequently become controversial in part due to this, so instead of a request, this is now a demand.--
Jasper Deng(talk) 20:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I honestly forgot to add the summary for the edit and it was meant to explain why I removed the last bit about Hilary’s operational track since it got shortened (now I just reworded it), and I admit I was maybe a little biased in removing Maue’s claims because he can make wild claims in regards to the hurricane season, so that was my fault. I will include edit summaries more often now though so thanks for the demand. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks both Mario and
Jasper Deng (
talk·contribs) for chatting rather than getting to an edit war. Now that we've brought up the storm, I'm wondering both of your thoughts on the global warming bit? For what it's worth, I agree with Mario's
original edit, removing the global warming bit, which, to their (his?) credit, had an edit summary that said "while likely true, I don’t think we should elevate his takes given he makes quite outlandish weather claims. Also not really appropriate for the section either." I honestly think this is true for most storm articles with the global warming connection. Hilary just happened to be one of many storms in recent years to have some sort of connection with global warming, even though
climate change refers to much longer term patterns in the Earth's climate, not solely connected to one individual storm. Before bringing up the discussion on Hilary's page (or the project), I wondered if I could ask both Mario and Jasper's thoughts on the global warming section in general for storm articles. ♫
Hurricanehink (
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In my opinion, the linkage to global warming should be relevant and mentioned in the storm articles that generate widespread news coverage and mentions of these kind of events. I.e Harvey, Patricia, the big anomalies. Hilary is kind of borderline because while it did get close in the technical sense to a California landfall, there have been numerous instances in the years and decades past of similar close call events or their remnants affecting California in a big way. That’s different from extreme intensity in Patricia’s case or dumping feet of rain over a major metropolitan area in Harvey’s case, of which both have very clear global warming discussions centered around them. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 23:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
That makes sense I suppose. Hilary was just another Nora or Doreen, a once in 25 year event for that part of the world. ♫
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I understand that your issue is that you want to use artist depictions in astronomy infoboxes. Why can't you just do that. Why do you have to revert ALL my edits ????? And then archive discussions out of sight. Do you have a bee in your bonnet or are you genuinely interested in Wikipedia as a collaborative project ?--
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I understand that your issue is that you want to use artist depictions in astronomy infoboxes. Why can't you just do that. Why do you have to revert ALL my edits ????? And then archive discussions out of sight. Do you have a bee in your bonnet or are you genuinely interested in Wikipedia as a collaborative project ?--
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@
MarioProtIV: May I ask why you archived EvenGreenerFish's earlier post on your talk page without responding to it.--
Jasper Deng(talk) 07:10, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
I was a bit busy and I must've forgotten to respond when I archived it. Sorry about that. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 12:50, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
April 2017 storms
I think
this is a different weather system. Starting April 23, we had a lot of rain in North and South Carolina and the flooding is quite serious if you compare the river levels in this article to
Hurricane Matthew. I seem to recall tornadoes with this system too. How we do it other than going to the person who did most of the edits I don't know, but it seems there are two systems which can have their own articles in April 2017, or perhaps two systems that could be part of one article.—
Vchimpanzee •
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As far as I'm aware the April 23 system didn't have that much tornadoes but for the flooding it may need an article in the future, IMO. Would just have to get some consensus from higher up people for that. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:43, 30 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Now that I remember there was another system that produced tornadoes in the South before the one we are dealing with currently came in. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)reply
@
MarioProtIV: I can understand why you removed some of my edits since I'm new here but one of the EF0 tornadoes from edit 778063642 was removed as well as another EF0 that needs to be added in.
WeatherDudeEF5 (
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If there are more storms today we may have to move the article to a new name that includes May. Maybe the old title can apply to the system from last week.—
Vchimpanzee •
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The tornadoes from yesterday and Saturday were part of the same system that produced the floods in the Central US over the weekend. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 15:39, 1 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep in mind the flooding occurring right now in the Carolinas is from rain that fell last Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. I'm sure that's a separate system from what is causing problems now. I fast-forwarded through the local news last night and the damage that I could see even then was pretty bad. I assume those are the tornadoes you are referring to.—
Vchimpanzee •
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Just got finished looking at some real newspapers. No references to tornadoes. I'll work on the Carolinas flooding and see how we can get that into an article.—
Vchimpanzee •
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There was a discussion that took place in regards to a similar situation in a different article. Basically, it was discussed whether or not a section showing the most intense tropical cyclones by category should be included in the article
List of Atlantic hurricane records. For example,
Hurricane Alex of 2010 was the most intense Category 2 hurricane, with a pressure of 946 mbar,
Isidore the most intense Category 3 hurricane (934 mbar),
Opal (916 mbar), and
Wilma (882 mbar). This is an analagous situation, and even though Opal was the most intense Category 4 Atlantic hurricane, there seem to be no sources which state this verbatim. The link to the full discussion is here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Undescribed&oldid=777849061 --
Undescribed (
talk) 16:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)reply
2010–11 North American winter
--
Anonymous Ryan (
talk) 20:19, 2 May 2017 (UTC) I completed the article for the 2010-2011 winter season. This page was created by the user "master of time" I added the events and seasonal forcast sections.reply
Stephanie
Can you please stop creating an article for Stephanie and respect the consensus formed at [
[1]]. Otherwise you may find yourself being blocked from editing.
Jason Rees (
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That consensus was only because the unofficial name was used for the page name. I didn't use that title, rather I used it in a format similar to
2006 Central Pacific cyclone. Please take it to the page's talk page before jumping to conclusions. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 16:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Mario, I would also say you should stop using the "Reverted good faith edits by..." option of Twinkle for edits by experienced editors. Since experienced editors know to
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Juliancolton: gave you last month, or we may have to consider restrictions on your ability to edit here, which we would stringently prefer not to do.--
Jasper Deng(talk) 19:03, 7 May 2017 (UTC)reply
Got it, will try to keep it cool with both that and the GF edits. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)reply
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Tropical Storm Arlene
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A page you started (Tornado outbreak and floods of April 28 – May 1, 2017) has been reviewed!
Please refrain from creating a level 2 header called "Other systems", with level 3 headers of "Tropical depression", as it defeats the purpose of having one altogether. The purpose of an other systems section is for systems that are either a) not officially warned on or b) (and this mostly applies to older systems) doesn't really have much information, so giving it a full blown section would lead to excess whitespace. Regards.
YEPacificHurricane 20:22, 29 May 2017 (UTC)reply
TD Cindy
What the storm's winds are is irrelevant to whether we continue to display information. Remember that unlike all the other categories, tropical depression does not have a lower bound. Cindy is still an active tropical cyclone according to the WPC. As long as that is the case, we display information. If you disagree with that, you're free to bring it up on the project page, but I don't think you'll have much luck given what I've told you above. TropicalAnalystwx13 (
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Isaac
Do you think Hurricane Isaac in 2012 can be a primary topic? --
219.79.127.186 (
talk) 02:05, 27 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Could we possibly avoid having so many requested moves/page moves just to knock the year off and make something the primary topic. It isnt like the world is going to end just because the article for the name Isacc has the 2012 on it, lets just use some common sense with this stuff please.
Jason Rees (
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Given that the 82 incarnation of Isaac is one of the worst Tonga cyclones, I'd say no.
YEPacificHurricane 23:50, 27 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Dora image
Hey, there. Me and @
ChocolateTrain: have discussed regarding to the Hurricane Dora image situation that has been going on (see
User talk:Typhoon2013#Hurricane Dora image). ChocolateTrain's image is pretty acceptable in my opinion and he did discussed the "goods and the bads" of our versions.
Typhoon2013(talk) 21:42, 1 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Lester 2016
Do you think we need an article for Lester in 2016, as it was one of the two tropical cyclones to threaten a direct hit on the Big Island? --
219.79.181.53 (
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Suomi Images
Please stop reverting my edit images. The Suomi-NPP images I made are much better than their previous ones. Especially, please make an explanation to your edit summary containing why. I have reverted your edits and have uploaded more Suomi images.
Typhoon2013(talk) 00:28, 17 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Naval Research Laboratory
G'day MarioProtIV. I have a question about how to do something, and as I have seen you do it before, I thought you'd be the one to ask. How do you get colour images from the
Naval Research Laboratory page? You got our recent image for Hurricane Harvey from there, but all I can ever get is black-and-white images. No matter what I press, I never get colour. Could you give me some instructions on how to get a colour image? For example, how do you get to the image you uploaded to Commons from the page I linked above? Thanks.
ChocolateTrain (
talk) 05:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Why are you
reverting the text I added to the lead? It is unencyclopedic to start an article mentioning the subject's importance without first properly describing it. For example, the
Jeff Bezos article does not begin with, "Jeff Bezos is the richest man in the world." The article had a proper lead until you changed it on
29 October 2016.
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Just thought I'd drop a line to say thank you for using a proper infobox image for
K2-72e. Works really well on this page, much better than an concept image, and the article reads well too. nice work! --
EvenGreenerFish (
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Hina
FYI we take 1-min winds from the JTWC BT and not scientific journals.
Jason Rees (
talk) 15:35, 16 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Page move
So much for the process I tried to lay out. If you were so rushed, you couldn't just move the draft over the redirect at
Hurricane Maria (2017)? And what's the deal with you always requesting that Cyclonebiskit move pages but you totally bypass that step this time around?
Master of Time(talk) 16:55, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
He already gave his reasoning for the move: it was rapidly becoming a threat and no one was moving the draft.
Jdcomix (
talk) 17:14, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Hurricane Maria (2017) was only a redirect, so he should have been able to just move the draft over it since he was autoconfirmed long ago. Plus, since Wikipedia is not a news source, it is perfectly acceptable to wait a brief period for an administrator to move the page if need be (although it shouldn't have been needed here). Fragmenting the page's history, though, should never have been on the table. This should all be fixable, but it will take a little while.
Master of Time(talk) 19:13, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Master of Time: I'll be sure to move it over the redirect next time we have a draft for a storm rather then fragment it. But like Jd said I was wanting to get it quickly out and about. Obviously I see that didn't really work as much as I hoped it would. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:26, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
I'm not questioning your intentions or anything; it's just that there were better ways to handle this. Not much else to be said, at this point.
Master of Time(talk) 19:29, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
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Image
The image you provided for hurricane Maria has a while half circle which disrupts the image. The image I have uploaded is clearer. Please don't change it. Thank you.
Toonami1997 (
talk) 21:12, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
That one isn't updated regularly, and the image I put regularly gets updated so it should be gone by the next update. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 21:13, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Unofficial Records
Please stop adding unofficial records to
2017 Atlantic hurricane season. The current damage costs are estimates, not official tallies. Including unofficial records is misleading. It is like how the unofficial start of summer is Memorial Day. Did summer actually start on Memorial Day? No, it starts in late June. These damages are just estimates so until the actual damages are tallied, no records have been broken. I will be taking this to the talk page for discussion. I just wanted you to know where I and a few other people are coming from. You are more than welcome to participate in the discussion. Cheers, --
Figfires (
talk) 21:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Im going to ask again... Please do not add any records to
2017 Atlantic hurricane season until the final damage totals are released. An unofficial record is false information. It either is a record or it isn't. --
Figfires (
talk) 17:24, 27 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Why did you create this redirect before the system was named in NHC advisories? We shouldn't be prematurely creating redirects just because a system will probably be named (and for this advisory, it was not).
Master of Time(talk) 20:48, 4 October 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Maater Of Time: - it really doesn’t matter when a redirect is made. You could make them for the rest of the names in the season, and it wouldn’t matter. Ditto the next five naming lists. Since the media was reporting on a potential Hurricane Nate affecting the US in a few days, I think it was beneficial, actually.
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Would you please expand it and fix the text, or at least give an indication of when would be the time to make the page more than just a redirect page, instead of just hitting the Undo button?
50.235.102.246 (
talk) 18:58, 6 November 2017 (UTC)reply
2017–18 North American winter
It has been a year and a half since your most substantive contributions (text / byte-wise) to articles in the North American winter series (i.e. season articles, not articles for individual systems), and I don't know if you're still very interested in winter season articles, but there is another article located at
Draft:2017–18 North American winter. I created it shortly after the NOAA outlook was released. I'd consider moving it to mainspace, but some edits were unexpectedly made to the redirect, blocking a page-move for the time being. At the least, maybe you could watch it for later, when winter actually gets into full swing with significant systems. You're a capable writer (and I noticed your name popped up in the revision history of the redirect), so I thought I'd mention it!
Master of Time(talk) 06:20, 12 November 2017 (UTC)reply
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I just wanted to tell you to calm down and don't get too excited. As per your edits a few days ago where you already considered/declared the end of both the EPAc and Atlantic seasons. Since it has now ended, that does not mean you should create the 2018 Atl and EPac seasons because 1) too early and 2) barely any sources. But the Atlantic I'll deal with that as me and other users had a huge convo about creating the next season articles last year.
Typhoon2013(talk) 00:23, 30 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Season doesn't end till 0z tomorrow as TWO's are still being issued. 23.5 hours too early. Otherwise, I agree with Typhoon2013.
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winter storm summaries. Hope that's useful.
Master of Time(talk) 03:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Which I want to know why, why do you move/merge an article without any reason. I easily reverted all of your edits and the Haikui article will still be up. Don't worry I'll add more if you're not satisfied.
Typhoon2013(talk) 00:05, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
If that's all there is for impact, then, yes, a case could be made for merger, although given that the 2017 PTS page is over 100kb, more leniency should be shown. I also don't know why any impact wasn't moved during the merger.
YEPacificHurricane 04:34, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
HURDAt
The project consensus has always been to use HURDAT as the official source for intensity, which will be updated when the results of the 1960-65 reanaylsis are approved by the hurricane best track committee as @
Cyclonebiskit and
Thegreatdr: will tell you.
Jason Rees (
talk) 02:03, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
So then where do we put the info regarding the new intensities? They should at least be known and I’d prefer taking this to the WPTC talk page rather then mine. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 02:09, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
For now it can be noted in the article but until its official (which it isnt yet, since its still being looked at by NHC) we do not change the formal windspeeds.
Jason Rees (
talk) 02:11, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Mention it in prose but since HURDAt hasn’t been updated yet. Also Mario, if you’re curious about precedent, look in that age histories next time before starting an edit war.
YEPacificHurricane 02:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
I don't know when 1960-1965 updates will occur. I think the review passed 1963 and then the overall progress stopped as last season ramped up. Once the TCRs are out, progression might occur. I wouldn't expect it this April. Next April maybe.
Thegreatdr (
talk) 01:26, 30 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Reference on 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season article
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Lan damages
I have offered the source that Lan caused a total of USD 845 million in damages, and which source says that the figure was 1 billion?
Typhoon2017 (
talk) 11:43, 22 December 2017 (UTC)reply
It says "were likely to exceed USD1.0 billion" but doesn't imply certainty. The wording makes it obvious that that damage estimate isn't final.
The Nth User I have no ideas for what to put here.
Care to differ or discuss? 02:50, 2 January 2018 (UTC)reply
On the above website, how should I register my account and where can I find the document you gave me when I mentioned Lan damages?
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Would you please stop removing sections about winter storms? Recently, you undid additions of storms twice in a span that was less than ten minutes (
first time;
second time) under the pretext of non-notability. You have also removed kilobytes of information about winter storms at several instances earlier this month. Given that the people who added the storms apparently think that they're notable enough, you should think twice and possibly ask for another opinion before deleting the authors' hard work. Also, some of the "non-notable" systems that you deleted subsections for seem clearly notable to me. For example, I have found that you, in multiple reversions, undid the additions at least two different systems, each of which knocked out power for hundreds of thousands of people (
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the fine text of The Three-Revert Rule, you have clearly violated its spirit, with two reversions of the same type of edit (addition of winter storms as subsections of the Events section) giving the same justification (non-notability), and I view your reverts as hindering the development of
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The Nth User I have no ideas for what to put here.
Care to differ or discuss? 03:18, 29 December 2017 (UTC)reply
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Care to differ or discuss? 04:35, 29 December 2017 (UTC)reply
== Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion ==
Just to note that the 2018 season really has not started yet because it developed in 2017. Otherwise we'll wait for other users like JR, though I did mention him about it in the 2018 talk page.
Typhoon2013(talk) 00:34, 1 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Ah ok. I thought we’d have to edit it a bit since it’s a year crosser and it’s probably gonna be named on the 2018 side. But thanks for clearing that up. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:42, 1 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I just want it to be there in case it gets consensus approval after the talk page section gets archived.
The Nth User I have no ideas for what to put here.
Care to differ or discuss? 02:45, 1 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Hi
I’m a useless Wikipedia user
Sorry for vandalism because i didn’t make my account to vandalize. I made it to fix weather pages.
Weatherlover (
talk) 03:31, 2 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Use-mention
The article is about the weather, not the name of the weather. Can you explain further and/or link to the 5-year-old RFC? Thanks,
NapoliRoma (
talk) 19:40, 3 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Late October nor'easter
Information about the system can be found here:
Nor'easter#Notable nor’easters. October is not considered a winter month by anyone, and there was no notable snow or ice totals. -
Knowledgekid87 (
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Image dispute
I have observed the edit warring between the two of you regarding the image; I honestly don't know which image is better at this time, but I do know that even if you are correct that the original was better, being correct is not a defense to edit warring. Even if the other user does not start a talk page discussion regarding this, you should do so instead of constantly reverting the image. I have warned the other user about this as well and I encourage you both to discuss the matter and reach an agreement.
331dot (
talk) 21:37, 27 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Resolving image dispute
Mario, I don't think we can ever agree on which image of Hurricane Jose is better, and I will still prefer the one I uploaded due to it being consistent with the other images and being closer to the storm's peak intensity. However, I don't want these users getting angry at us about the dispute. Can we try to find a good agreement?
CooperScience (
talk) 22:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Hey there. I've seen you editing for quite a while, especially related to the 2017 AHS. I also notice you haven't written a
WP:Good article, even though it seems like you have a good grasp of how to edit Wikipedia. Are you interested in working on any older articles and improving them? It's clear you have an interest in tropical cyclones, much like my own heart. I've been tracking Atlantic hurricanes since
Hurricane Erin (1995). Anyway, just seeing if you need any help toward improving articles. I've improved my share of WPTC pages and can pass some tips along if you want. ♫
Hurricanehink (
talk) 23:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC)reply
SE Charts
Please remember that the whole point of the newer format of SE Charts is that they help the articles meet WP:Verification easier with all of the references added. It also helps with the transferring data from the season articles to lists like the retired names. If you wish to change the format of them then bring up a discussion on WP:WPTC and lets make a format that allows us to sort and reference the tables easier ALL OVER THE WORLD.
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Costliest storms on Record succession boxes
I have posted a suggestion on the
Non-tropical storms project talk page. Please look at it and let others know about it. (Also please look at my previous post on that page.) Thank you.--
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talk) 02:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC)reply
I noticed your recent edit to
Hurricane Iris does not have an
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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. You can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting Preferences →
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B dash (
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Hurricane Harvey
I'm puzzled, may you please tell me why you reverted my edit? It is true! That Hurricane did wipe out the population of Attwater's Prairie Chicken by a huge amount.
Pancakes654
Emily
Do we need an article for Tropical Storm Emily? As it made landfall in Florida and caused some damage. --
158.182.231.226 (
talk) 00:57, 1 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Hurricanes hitting the United States-St. Croix
In the community of nations, best visualized by the nearly 200 flags that fly in front of the UN HQ in NYC, you will not find the flag of the US Virgin Islands, because they are not a a country nor part of any other country than the US. In fact, when you see the flags at the plaza in front of Union Station or around the American History Museum in Washington DC, the United States Virgin Islands flies as proudly as any other state, territorial or District of Columbia flag. Art IV, Section 3, clause 2 of the United States Constitution, the
Properties Clause or the
Territories Clause as well as the recent (2016) Sanchez Valle SCOTUS case makes it clear that it is a territory or property of the United States. This has been settled in the multiple discussions you can find in Wikipedia's
Puerto Rico page.
When a hurricane hits St. Croix, St. Thomas, St. John or the Puerto Rican archipelago, for that matter, the United States has been hit. That's why FEMA, the US Army Corps of Engineers and the US Armed Forces, which don't service anything but the United States in times of disaster, show up to provide disaster relief.
If not the US, which nation has been hit when the eye of the storm passers over St. Croix? If not the US, in what foreign land can you be born and automatically have a US passport issued?
Could we please discuss this, as I think the original phrase should stay.
Pr4ever (
talk) 22:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Just fyi. the usual procedure is to redirect to the first article created on a topic, then discuss the article title. I create articles on events fairly frequently, but perhaps you were not aware of this convention.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 20:36, 2 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Hello, MarioProtIV. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started,
March 6–7, 2018 nor'easter, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:
remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}}
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Thanks for the compliments about my work on the MH for Gita and I have no problems with working on the MH for Hola, I will make a start on it shortly.
Jason Rees (
talk) 21:28, 7 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Right its taken me a little while to sort out, but the MH is now virtually up to date.
Jason Rees (
talk) 04:47, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Damages
In my opinon it is not acceptable for an editor to come along and changing damage totals without leaving a source and using "Per most recent NOAA estimate" or "Damage fixes for Tomas and Matthew" in the edit summuary without sourcing it is also not acceptable. The list of Retired Atlantic hurricane names was built up by me, using the damage totals I could reliably source. There are some differences in damage totals but as time allows we need to go through it and check them.
Jason Rees (
talk) 20:10, 12 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge discussion notice
An article that you have been involved in editing, i.e.:
Cyclone Ernie, has been proposed for a
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B dash (
talk) 12:09, 14 March 2018 (UTC)reply
2017–18 North American winter
Thank you for writing a considerable amount of the event sections in that article. The per-section quality would be much worse without the work you have contributed (I certainly feel it is better than the previous winter's article). I just thought I'd mention it!
Master of Time(talk) 02:14, 17 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Looks like "Winter Storm Uma" is starting up today. I guess in a few days it'll be time for the next article, "March 23–?, 2018 Winter Storm" or "March 23–?, 2018 Snow Storm". This may be the fifth major winter storm for this March.--
Halls4521 (
talk) 20:22, 23 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Please be patient in terms of Jelawat. Doesn't mean the JTWC stopped issuing advisories, doesn't mean you have to take the infobox. The JMA is still warning on it so I will revert you. I know you're excited but be calm please.
Typhoon2013(talk) 17:54, 1 April 2018 (UTC)reply
But actually, in this case, I will not revert you just for the sake that itt isn't 18Z yet and for sure the JMA will stop tracking this. But PLEASE, keep this in mind in for the future as the JMA is the RSMC. Thanks.
Typhoon2013(talk) 18:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)reply
I have warned you again. Please be patient. The JMA still has Jelawat active in their weather maps. You have been here in the past two seasons and this is what we've been doing and you know that. So please wait until the JMA doesn't mention Jelawat in their weather maps.
Typhoon2013(talk) 02:54, 2 April 2018 (UTC)reply
A barnstar for you!
The Resilient Barnstar
Mateo, I mean Mario, you are a very persistent and great editor on Wikipedia, and your efforts in getting the right things done are rewarding of this Barnstar!
CooperScience (
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Hello, I noticed that you reverted ParkerJP913's removal of their block notice from their user talk page; users are permitted to remove most things from their user talk pages if they wish; one of the few exceptions is block reviews while a block is in effect. Even removing the notice of the block itself is OK. See
WP:REMOVED. Thanks
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Why wouldn't the section about the Carol name being removed just before Camille was named be relevant?
I passed this by a few people in the project before adding it. It was a well referenced section in an increasingly degrading article which I was trying to improve. Again. Other articles talk about this, implying that it's very relevant to the Camille article. You removed all the improvements I made to the reference section. Why exactly? This doesn't fit the spirit of Wikipedia, from what I can remember.
Thegreatdr (
talk) 03:59, 10 May 2018 (UTC)reply
It's not related directly to the storm, so I'd prefer it mentioned in more depth in one of the TC naming pages.
YEPacificHurricane 15:56, 11 May 2018 (UTC)reply
It is related though. How could it not be? I can see the content being in both sections. If you want it to be in the TC naming pages, that's fine. But some mention of it in this article should be warranted. I checked the length of the content; it doesn't approach undue weight.
Thegreatdr (
talk) 01:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Because it's not related to the actual storm itself. Literally nothing about the storm changes if the storm was named Carol instead of Camile except for the name itself.
YEPacificHurricane 02:05, 21 May 2018 (UTC)reply
One
Number of deaths because Huracán San Felipe II in Puerto Rico: 312, almost 500,000 homeless in Puerto Rico.
This 1928 hurricane cause more damge than María because then we were oppressed by the empire called the USA.
You seem to forget that the death toll in PR from Maria is highly uncertain and is likely >500. Maria also did $90 billion to the island which in 1928 would be higher then the actual damage the 1928 hurricane did in its currency year. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:19, 26 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Game
You're playing a game here and you don't even know what you are doing or the rules on this site. It's not a revert to add to info. Thus I did not break a rule, however you have broken the three revert rule. Also it's clear from your actions in the past you are doing this often and upsetting others. Watch your actions although it's too late in this instance. You can learn however.
Furthermore you are in error. Additionally you get very involved in certain articles, particularly storms. Lastly, you don't seek remedies or use talk pages properly.
Please stop your
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The only reason why you're not blocked for breaking 3RR here is that this is the third instance of Bleucheeses blatantly edit warring in the past couple of days. Count yourself lucky and please don't misuse warning templates. --
NeilNtalk to me 13:38, 30 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Got it, I’ll try not to run into situations like that again. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 13:51, 30 May 2018 (UTC)reply
So you think I don’t live in Puerto Rico? Just check my page, don’t be ignorant. And because I live in Puerto Rico I know the worst hurricane was not Huracán María.
Sixty Minute Limit (
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Hi There. I left a similar message on the Talk Page of
User:Horsewriter10 as well asking to move the debate onto the Talk Pages. Not my area of expertise, so I can't comment on the substance of the dispute, but an edit war doesn't do anyone any credit. Thanks. --Legis (
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Just wanted to ask for your opinion on
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Hurricane Maria deaths issue
You should probably give your input at
the discussion here. I would like to comment sometime soon, but right now, I'm getting tired of this, and I'm sure you're more informed on the latest hurricane death toll counting than I am. I agree with you, but if this keeps up, another ugly edit war could break out. I suggest bringing more contributors into the discussion as well, especially if he isn't as willing to listen.
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FigfiresSend me a message! 17:12, 12 August 2018 (UTC)reply
Hector
Per the text of JMA's
WWJP25 marine bulletin at 18z, Hector was still active. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 1014 HPA AT 33N 166E NORTH 10 KT.
Jason Rees (
talk) 00:54, 17 August 2018 (UTC)reply
September 2018
Your recent editing history at
Hurricane Matthew shows that you are currently engaged in an
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B dash (
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Florence
Im sorry, but the current infobox needs to remain as WPC is still issuing advisories on the active flood threat posed by Florence. Until they issue the last advisory, it should stay. We did the same thing when NHC issued advisories on the Remnants of Beryl earlier this year.
FigfiresSend me a message! 21:37, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I don't know why you're so insistent on removing it. There's no need to as long as more information via advisories is coming in.
YEPacificHurricane
"Breaks format"
Could you please explain your
edit summary? I made edits to several parts of the article, and I'm not sure which one "broke" the format. Λυδαcιτγ 06:42, 18 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Please challenge the charts on the
talk page instead of simply removing them. The charts were readded after no objections were made in the discussion.
FigfiresSend me a message! 17:10, 22 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Talk page etiquette
Users are
allowed to remove comments (including warnings) from their own talk page, so please don't
revert them. –
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talk) 20:42, 23 September 2018 (UTC)reply
September 2018
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Violation of WP:Page Blanking
Your removal of Sergio has been reverted because it is in violation of
WP:Page blanking. The system is likely going to have watches issued tomorrow and will have some kind of impact on Thursday so proposing for deletion now would be uncalled for. There is a decent amount of media coverage on this system and the draft had a decent amount of material. That is why the article exists now. This was considered a violation of the blanking policy because the entirety of the material related to the structure of the storm is absent from the seasonal article.
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Hurricane Michael in comparison with Irma and Maria
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Reverted edit
Since there's no way I know of to PM people on wikipedia, I'm posting this on your talk page. I don't want to start an edit war, but my edit on Maria's article changing her to the deadliest Atlantic hurricane since Mitch instead of Jeanne was reverted, and I'm confused why. Maria caused 3,057 deaths while Jeanne caused 3,037, so Maria is therefore the deadliest hurricane since Mitch. I guess technically she's the deadliest since Jeanne too but I think that is supposed to mean the most deadly hurricane since (insert earlier hurricane that killed more people). Anyway I'm just confused and asking why it got reverted, sorry if this isn't something I'm supposed to do or something along the lines of that.
YellowSkarmory (
talk) 02:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)reply
@
YellowSkarmory: So even though Maria technically killed more people that Jeanne, the reasoning for having Jeanne in the lede instead of Mitch is that the latter system killed over 11,000 people; more than 3x the number of fatalities caused by Maria. Since the death toll of Jeanne is similar to Marias total, it is more reasonable to say that Maria is the deadliest Atlantic hurricane since Jeann. Comparing Maria to Mitch is a little much.
Undescribed (
talk) 13:50, 27 October 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Undescribed: Ah, that makes sense. Might want to add something saying that Maria caused more deaths than Jeanne, though.
Merging short articles
Hey there Mario. I've been watching your edits this year, and generally you're a nice and productive editor, one that I hope will stick around and continue writing in the future. Keep in mind that this is a collaborative encyclopedia, and there is no deadline, so for
Tropical Storm Vicente (2018), there's no need to merge a new article that recently affected land. As a rule of thumbs, if it's likely there is a lot more information out there, then we don't usually merge the articles. Think of the storm articles as sub-articles of the season article. The 2018 PHS article is already pretty long, so any additional content for Vicente will add more length to an already lengthy season article. ♫
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"In My Feelings" cover art
Hi, I just thought I'd give you a courteous reminder that I checked the song's cover art and its source, I can indeed confirm it is real, according to these sources below:
With that, I insist that you please refrain from making any further reverts removing the artwork. Thanks,
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Is there something about nor'easters that modify the usual rules of English grammar? The
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June 2019 WPTC Newsletter
Volume XIV, Issue 39, May 31, 2019
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Halls4521 (
talk) 20:08, 4 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Dorian
The revert I feel was unnecassay because the impacts will start soon. I did revert your edit, for the presaid reason. The article needs a basic skeleton. Please keep it. Thanks! --
Wyatt2049 | (
talk) 00:31, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Please read the links, which say to "avoid using smaller font sizes in elements that already use a smaller font size, such as infoboxes, navboxes and reference sections", And don't revert valid edits with the bland and meaningless edit summary of "fix" again. Thank you.–
Muboshgu (
talk) 21:26, 11 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Hurricane Lorenzo image
@
MarioProtIV: Hi there Mario. In general, I can see the logic behind using a peak intensity infrared image of a cyclone over a true colour, full-resolution alternative at a slightly lower intensity. I would tentatively support such a decision for most cyclones, provided that the image is not of unacceptable quality and there is not a true colour image which displays the cyclone at a time of equivalent visual intensity. However, in the particular circumstance of Hurricane Lorenzo, I don't agree that this argument has merit. The infrared image that is currently being used was captured at 01:31 UTC on 29 September, which was not at peak intensity. As it says in the description of the image (I have also verified this from the NHC advisories), Lorenzo is at about 125 knots at the time of the image. To be honest, I would actually say 130 knots is closer to the true intensity at the image time. Now, 130 knots is Lorenzo's intensity in this infrared image as well as in the true colour image taken at 13:39 UTC on 29 September. Given that there is no intensity difference between the images, I am sure you would agree that there is very little else in the way of support for using the infrared image over the true colour one. The true colour image has higher resolution than the infrared image, as well as fully depicting the central dense overcast and banding in full detail, rather than in comparatively rudimentary detail in the infrared version. Additionally, I would contend that using a colour image when it is available is better than black and white in most circumstances, simply due to the fact that you can actually see the colour. Considering all of this, the true colour image does present itself as a more suitable option for use in the article than the infrared one. I hope you can see the merit of this argument and will agree.
ChocolateTrain (
talk) 07:41, 4 October 2019 (UTC)reply
I have undone your edit. The official NHC discussion explicitly cited Dvorak fixes at 130z for upgrading the storm, and with the TC update issued just 40 minutes later, is for all practical purposes the peak intensity (sorry, your "I would actually say 130 knots" is irrelevant). The latter one is clearly weaker, and in any case much less organized. If you are unable to apply the Dvorak technique's eye pattern rigorously, then you are in no position to be assessing intensity on your own.--
Jasper Deng(talk) 07:54, 5 October 2019 (UTC)reply
@
Jasper Deng: Please 'ping' me in the future. I am not a talk page stalker, and I would appreciate a notification message when you are addressing a comment to me. I will in this case concede that I was incorrect to say that the two cyclones were of equivalent intensity. I missed the NHC's mention of the use of the 0130Z infrared imagery in their 140 kn analysis. Therefore, I will accept the the infrared image for use in the article. HOWEVER, that comment in the advisory that the intensity was 140 kn at 0130Z IS THE ONLY PIECE OF EVIDENCE that supports the use of the infrared image on Wikipedia. Had such a comment not been explicitly mentioned, my reasoning would have been correct. According to an interpolation of intensities between consecutive advisories, the cyclone was at a roughly equivalent intensity in both images. Your comment regarding the Dvorak Technique is also irrelevant, because it is not the job of a Wikipedian assign a CI number to a tropical cyclone—it is our job to work with the evidence we are given. It is also not justified for you to say that "the latter one is clearly weaker", because you are comparing apples and oranges—that is, an infrared image and a true colour image. The eye of a tropical cyclone always appears much more distinct and impressive on infrared imagery than on true colour imagery, because some of the obscuring low-level and mid-level cloud disappears or becomes far less visible on infrared, which makes the system seem stronger than it is.
ChocolateTrain (
talk) 08:56, 5 October 2019 (UTC)reply
@
ChocolateTrain: I read about halfway through and to be quite honest, you need to both not
WP:SHOUT and be much more concise (
WP:TLDR). Linear interpolation of intensities is just as ORy as assigning CI numbers, and in any case, published Dvorak T-numbers (especially ADT) prove you wrong. It also does not take an expert to notice that the image you advocated is unrepresentative of the peak intensity, given the rapid onset of the eyewall replacement cycle. You completely glossed over my point concerning the tropical cyclone update as well. We have some leeway for OR when it comes to choosing a picture, but your way of going about it is simply
hand-waving.--
Jasper Deng(talk) 09:10, 5 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Ok I’m not gonna be picky here but can you guys talk about this on your own talk pages? I don’t really need to be getting several notifications because of this argument between you two. Thanks. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 09:19, 5 October 2019 (UTC)reply
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A few years ago, you made an edit to the Kepler-70b page which included this statement:
"The star has a mass of 0.496 M☉ and a radius of 0.203 R☉. ... These statistics were very likely higher then what they were today when it was a red giant, the estimated mass of Kepler-70 before it became a subdwarf, would probably have been around 0.89-0.95 M☉."
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Doing pretty good thanks for asking! Hope all is well there too :) --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 21:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Nice. Yea I'm doing alright. A lot of my RL work is canceled/postponed for now, so I'm wikiing more than I have in years. ♫
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You pasted the following false information to several articles and they stayed up for years, "However, such moons do not usually form around planets, they would likely have to be captured from afar; e.g., a protoplanet running astray." I have since fixed the articles. You made these edits 4 years ago, but I thought I'd let you know. Please remember to cite sources and look up information to make sure you have something right before editing. Thanks.
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Hurricane Isaias aftermath
Can you help me with moving some of the content in the
Hurricane Isaias article from impact to aftermath?
ChessEric (
talk) 01:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Do you think that the info about the EF3 tornado should stay in the lead? Someone keeps removing it.
ChessEric (
talk) 18:20, 6 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Atl timetline
I think it's best to keep it at 10 storms per column first. Laura's name is at close proximity with Vicky's bar. It's good to have decent space with the storms.
Typhoon2013(talk) 22:57 UTC, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
I mean it would be nice to reply back.
Typhoon2013(talk) 22:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Sorry I didn’t respond sooner! I am a bit busy with college now so I’m not checking this as frequently. I modified it to the most recent one so that the spacing is that much of an issue between Laura’s text and Vicky. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 01:04, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Weather.com is not often the most usable source, and I’d look for say a Klotzbach tweet or something similar from a professional to back up the RI claim as he is a professional forecaster and tends to follow the NHC’s trends to determine the record. Weather.com sometimes doesn’t do that. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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I would also add to the above that you have breached the
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revert 1,
revert 2,
revert 3, and
revert 4). I have fully protected the article instead of blocking you, however if you continue to edit war over the image once the protection lapses, it is very likely you will end up blocked. Please engage with @
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I admire your strong-mindedness. :) ~Destroyeraa🌀 00:02, 21 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Geostationary images
I would like to know why you removed the Category for Molave's (21W) Geostationary imagery file? Especially with no reason whatsoever?
Typhoon2013(talk) 23:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oops. I must’ve accidentally hit the remove button on my phone while looking at it this morning, because that wasn’t my intention at all to remove it. Not sure how that ended up happening. Sorry! --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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It was already mentioned at the bottom of the lead. Not sure if you caught that and my bad for not saying so. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 04:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Sorry, too fast in reading. Summary are vary important to avoid this.
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You have redirected the article I created for the reasons you mentioned on the edit summary yesterday. This article is actually a translation of the
French corresponding article.
I hear your arguments, however can you recreate a specific article on the February 2021 cold wave and eventually remove incorrect/irrelevant content when you would have time to do it ? You are a more experienced user than me, you are particularly interested in meteorology and weather, furthermore there are articles for cold waves in
2019,
2017-2018,
2015, so it would be logic that a similar article exists for 2021 which is regularly regarded as exceptional (it's really rare to have such low temperatures in Texas). --
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A barnstar for you!
The Extra-Tropical Cyclone Barnstar
For continuing to maintain the North American winter articles after all these years, even when there was only a small group of people working on those. Thanks! LightandDark2000 🌀 (
talk) 22:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC)reply
March 2021
You currently appear to be engaged in an
edit war according to the reverts you have made on
2017–18 North American winter; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to
collaborate with others, to avoid editing
disruptively, and to
try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
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request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be
blocked from editing.jp×g 23:10, 14 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Respectfully, although you may not care what I think, I believe this warning is very unnecessary and a resolution has already been reached.
United States Man (
talk) 23:17, 14 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The Frozen Times is the semi-regular newsletter of
WikiProject Non-tropical storms. The newsletter aims to summarize recent developments and activities in the WikiProject, in addition to recent
extratropical cyclone activity on a global scale. The Frozen Times has been running since its revival in March 2021, although the first issue was published in February 2008. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the
mailing list. This issue of The Frozen Times covers all project-related events from February 2008–March 14, 2021. This edition's authors and editors are
MarioJump83,
HurricaneCovid,
Shift674, and
LightandDark2000. Past editions can be viewed
here.
WikiProject Non-tropical storms: News and Developments
On the heels of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones revival from 2018–2020, MarioJump83 and LightandDark2000 took the initiative to formally revive this WikiProject on January 15, 2021. Not long afterward, on February 7, 2021, the WikiProject community came to the decision to revive the project newsletter as well. We decided to model the entire WikiProject after WPTC, following a similar format and creating similar project pages for use on WPNTS, since the two projects are closely tied. There was also general agreement among the active editors on WPNTS to coordinate work with WPTC, given the numerous overlaps between the two WikiProjects.
On February 4, 2021, the WPTC and WPNTS communities came together to include WPNTS articles in WPTC's annual competition, the
Cyclone Cup, based on a suggestion from HurricaneCovid. The decision was made as a result of agreement between editors over how non-tropical storms (nor'easters, European windstorms, etc.) are cyclones too, and thus merit inclusion as well. WPNTS editors are now allowed and encouraged to participate in the Cyclone Cup, regardless of whether those editors are a part of WPTC or not. Currently, a number of WPNTS users are participating in the Cup, and we hope you will too!
On February 8, 2021, MarioJump83 introduced our project barnstar, which was accordingly named The Extra-Tropical Cyclone Barnstar. It was named based on a pun in which the "Tropical" word in The Tropical Cyclone Barnstar became more 'tropical', so much that it turned The Tropical Cyclone Barnstar to brown. (Hence the name "Extra-Tropical" and the brown cyclone icon). Since there were no barnstars that were shaped like a comma in the
Meteorology barnstars category, we had to take one which is available.
On February 24, 2021, we came to the decision to model the project newsletter after the WPTC newsletter, The Hurricane Herald. The first step of that was to give our newsletter a name. Agreement was reached on February 24 to use LightandDark2000's suggested name, The Frozen Times, as the name of the WPNTS newsletter. HurricaneCovid assisted in the creation of the logo for the newsletter, and MarioJump83 aided the endeavor as well.
On March 9, 2021, HurricaneCovid first introduced the idea of modeling North American winter articles after tropical cyclone season articles. While a few editors rejected the idea at first, by the next day most users had shown their support for it and the plan was implemented. The improvements were done over a period of 3 days, mainly by HurricaneCovid and MarioProtIV, and involved the creation or modification of several templates, including a timeline, some new infoboxes, and a button template. The implementation of these new templates has only been completed in one season article, and is still unfinished in most.
New articles since the last newsletter
The number of new articles since the last issue are innumerable. Thus, we will not be able to list them all here.
MarioProtIV joined Wikipedia in 2014, although his activity really ramped up in late 2015. He formally joined this WikiProject in early February 2021, just after its revival. Since and before formally joining, he has been one of the most prolific editors in non-tropical storm articles, particularly being a major part of getting
2020–21 North American winter to greater quality and taking the initiative to constantly update the article, as well as other separate winter storm articles. He has also participated in and started several discussions within WPNTS, further influencing the quality of current event articles in the WikiProject. We would like to thank him for his outstanding work, and therefore jointly give him the Member of The Edition award.
HurricaneCovid joined Wikipedia in March 2020, though he began working with weather-related articles and joined WPTC in November. He joined WPNTS in January 2021, just before its revival, although he had begun actively editing extratropical cyclone articles in December 2020. He has been doing constant work on
2020–21 North American winter throughout the North American winter season so far. He has helped write much of the article, with aid from MarioProtIV, as well as numerous other articles for the most major storms. He was present throughout the barrage of winter storms and the Arctic air outbreak in North America, in mid-February, creating most of the articles for storms in that period. He also helped with the revival of the WikiProject, and it was partially his idea to model this newsletter after The Hurricane Herald. For his consistent work to WPNTS, we are jointly giving him the Member of The Edition award for this issue.
LightandDark2000 joined Wikipedia as an IP editor in May 2009, although he didn't register an user account until 3 years later, in May 2012. He became active on WPTC and WPNTS in 2013, formally joining the projects in 2014 and 2016, respectively. He is one of the most-senior active members on WPNTS, as most of the active participants joined in 2020 or 2021. Soon after formally joining, he largely stopped editing Wikipedia on storm-related articles, turning his attention to
MILHIST from 2014–2017, and later took numerous WikiBreaks in 2016 and in 2019–2020, due to real-life activities and college. However, he began making a return to Wikipedia in July 2020, and since then, he has made a full return. In December 2020, he returned to WPNTS, with the start of the climatological winter in North America. He became a main part of the revival and resurrection of WPNTS from January–February 2021, assisting in efforts to revamp the project and helping to coordinate it. During this time, he continued his work on WPNTS articles, including during a historic outbreak of cold temperatures and a barrage of back-to-back winter storms in North America, in February. For his aid in the revival of this WikiProject, and his work on WPNTS articles, we are jointly giving him a modification of the MoTE award.
MarioJump83 first joined Wikipedia in 2013 as SMB99thx, although they first began working with storm-related articles in August 2020. They joined WPNTS in November 2020, quickly becoming the main coordinator and most active user in terms of getting the project restarted. They did outstanding work in terms of modeling the project after WPTC, with the aid of LightandDark2000, and got the project's act together. They took the initiative to formally restart the project in January 2021, and continued work restoring, improving, and creating project pages, including this newsletter. LightandDark2000 was along every step of the way, and helped out MarioJump83 create and improve project pages, modeling after WPTC. We would like to thank their outstanding work in getting the WikiProject together, and are thus jointly giving them a version of the MoTE award.
For the time being, there will be no user nominations, as this WikiProject is currently relatively small; however, once we gain enough participants, we will begin nominating members for MoTE.
Storms of The Edition over the last five newsletters
The February 13–17, 2021 North American winter storm, also referred to as Winter Storm Uri, was a strong and destructive winter storm that affected areas from the
West Coast of the United States, through the
Deep South and Northern
Mexico, to the
Northeast and
Eastern Canada. The second of three major winter storms to affect the continent within the month, the system originated as a powerful
low-pressure area in the Pacific and came ashore as a
frontal system on February 13. The system then dived southward along a trough in the
polar jet stream, while also strengthening, and began producing snowfall in the Deep South. The storm system then began expanding in terms of size, and the main low spawned a secondary low in the
Gulf of Mexico, off the coast of Florida on February 15. As the storm grew more organized, it spawned another low pressure center to the north on February 16, which quickly became the main low-pressure center. When the system exited the continent early on February 17, almost 75% of the continental U.S. was covered in snow, which almost broke a record. The newest low moved up the coast of Nova Scotia, beginning to strengthen faster along the way. It then began to quickly intensify, while approaching landfall on
Newfoundland, reaching a central pressure of 985 millibars (29.1 inHg) by 12:00 UTC on that day. The system then began meandering across the Atlantic, while proceeding to strengthen further, reaching a peak intensity of 960 millibars (28 inHg) on February 19. Afterward, the storm then began weakening rapidly, dissipating southwest of Greenland on February 24.
The storm system resulted in over 170 million Americans being placed under winter weather alerts, reaching as far south as
Galveston, Texas. The swath of snow and ice it produced stretched from
Washington to
Maine. It ranked as a Category 3 winter storm on the
Regional Snowfall Index (RSI) scale, and it became the second of three Category 3+ winter storms to affect North America in February 2021. The system caused over 9.9 million power outages, with 5.2 million in the U.S. and 4.7 million in Mexico, making it the worst blackout event recorded in North America since the
Northeast blackout of 2003. The hardest hit area by both the severe winter weather and long-term power outages was
Texas, with the
2021 Texas power crisis taking place due to the storm. Some long-term power outages in areas of the Deep South lasted over one week long. It also brought destructive
severe weather to parts of the Southeastern U.S., spawning five tornadoes, including an EF2 and a high-end EF3 tornado. In total, the storm resulted in at least 136 fatalities, with 124 in the U.S. and 12 in Mexico, making it the deadliest winter storm in decades. Damage from this system is estimated to cost at least $195 billion (2021
USD), making it the costliest winter storm on record, as well as one of the costliest natural disasters in the modern era.
Other significant storms
Post-Tropical Cyclone Zeta – The post-tropical remnants of Hurricane Zeta began interacting with another storm system on October 29, 2020, as rain overspread the Eastern U.S. However, as a cold front came through overnight allowing a blast of colder air, precipitation began switching over to snow in parts of New England. By the next day, the remnants of Zeta passed south of New England and moved out into the Atlantic, strengthening on the way. Zeta became the first tropical cyclone to produce accumulating snowfall as an extratropical storm since
Hurricane Sandy, resulting in several thousand power outages in New England and up to 6.5 in (17 cm) of snow.
December 15–17, 2020 nor'easter (Winter Storm Gail) – The December 15–17, 2020 nor'easter, also unofficially referred to as Winter Storm Gail, the only Category 2 winter storm on the
RSI scale in December, formed from a disorganized low pressure in the Southern Plains on December 14. The low pressure began organizing the next day, meandering east before it came offshore of the East Coast on December 16. It then rapidly intensified, reaching a peak intensity of 985 millibars (29.1 inHg) off the New England coast on December 17. The system then moved into the Atlantic, weakening slowly until dissipation on December 19. The nor'easter produced significant snowfall up to 15 in (38 cm) along the I-95 corridor, with over 3 ft (36 in) in parts of the interior Northeast. In total, it caused 7 fatalities and over 56,000 power outages. The nor'easter is estimated to have caused at least $125 million (2021 USD) in damages.
Storm Filomena – Storm Filomena, the eighth named storm of the 2020–21 European windstorm season, formed over the Atlantic near the Canary Islands on January 7, 2021. It then slowly meandered northeastward, crossing the
Iberian Peninsula over the next few days, producing heavy snowfall on the way. The storm then accelerated east, reaching a peak intensity of 995 millibars (29.4 inHg) and crossing Italy and Greece from January 11–13. Filomena then began rapidly weakening, and dissipated in interior Europe on January 15. It was significant because of unusually heavy snow up to 24 in (61 cm) in the Iberian Peninsula, which caused a total of 5 fatalities. Filomena is estimated to have caused at least $2.2 billion (2021 USD) in damage.
January 31 – February 3, 2021 nor'easter (Winter Storm Orlena) – The January 31 – February 3, 2021 nor'easter, also unofficially referred to as Winter Storm Orlena, the first of three Category 3+ winter storms in February 2021, formed as a powerful low pressure off the Pacific coast on January 25. The slow-moving low pressure meandered off the U.S. West Coast for several days, causing an atmospheric river event and producing heavy rain and snow. On January 30, the weakening low pressure crossed the Rockies and moved into the Midwest, producing a second low pressure off the North Carolina coast on January 31. The second low slowly meandered up the East Coast from February 1–4, reaching a peak intensity of 985 millibars (29.1 inHg) on February 3. The system then accelerated into the Atlantic, weakening and dissipating on February 5. The system caused up to 100 in (250 cm) of snow in the Sierra Nevada and 18–24 in (46–61 cm) in both the
Boston and
New York City metro areas. In total, it caused 7 fatalities and resulted in over 575,000 power outages. The system is estimated to have caused at least $100 million (2021 USD) in damages.
February 15–20, 2021 North American winter storm (Winter Storm Viola) – The February 15–20, 2021 North American winter storm, also unofficially referred to as Winter Storm Viola, the last of three Category 3+ winter storms in February 2021, formed on February 14 as a strong low pressure in the Pacific. The next day, the weakening low came ashore in the West Coast and the main low spawned several other low pressures on February 15, connected by a series of fronts. One of the low pressures to the south quickly took over, moving east over the next few days. It then spawned another low pressure to the east, which moved up the East Coast from February 18–19, becoming a nor'easter. The low reached an initial peak of 990 mb (29 inHg) as it exited the coast on February 19. The system then bombed out, reaching a peak intensity of 952 millibars (28.1 inHg) on February 22. It then slowly began to weaken, while moving northeastward, and dissipating on February 26. The storm brought a second round of snow and ice to the Deep South just days after another destructive storm came through the same areas. In total, the storm resulted in at least 29 fatalities and caused over 4 million power outages. The system is likely to have caused approximately $1 billion (2021 USD) in damage.
New WikiProject members
More information can be found
here. The following list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the last issue.
To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the tasks or to-do lists towards the bottom of the newsletter for tasks that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!
Note that most of the members listed here are inactive now, with the majority of them moved having been moved into the inactive list.
Featured Content Update
New featured articles (February 2008–March 14, 2021)
Assessments are valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See
here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
As of this issue, there are 8
featured articles and 1
featured list. There are 21
good articles, but only 1 A-class article, perhaps because most articles of that quality already passed an FA review. There are 53 B-class articles, 110 C-class articles, 172 start-class articles, and 52 stub-class articles, with 14 lists. These figures mean that roughly one-fifth of the project is rated B-class or better.
Tropical Storm Rolf was the 20th GA in the project.
The following is the current progress on the two milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. Updates on the following goals can also be found on the project home page.
Since this is the first issue of The Frozen Times since the revival of WPNTS, I thought we should have an opinion piece detailing the reasons based on which the revival took place. And the project member who would know these reasons the best would be none other than the main resurrector of the WikiProject, MarioJump83!
HurricaneCovid(
contribs)
Hello, WikiProject Non-tropical storms! I am the one who first took the initiative of this WikiProject's revival. While most of my work here is mostly related to maintenance work and some coordinating before resigning after the revival of this newsletter (I would like to say that
LightandDark2000 is the coordinator of the project now given he is the only active member to join before 2020), there are reasons why I took the initiative to revive the project.
Firstly, WPTC members, for some reason that was unclear to me, began joining the project in droves beginning in late 2020 and continuing into 2021. This surprised me since normally, people don't join defunct WikiProjects in large numbers. Secondly, many WPTC members, many of them based in either the United States or Europe, continue to edit extratropical cyclone articles, even when climatological winter ends in the Northern Hemisphere. This suggests that there is a space for WPNTS to spring up once again. Third and lastly, WPNTS-covered articles are quite active for a defunct WikiProject. I honestly think that this WikiProject shouldn't have been considered defunct in the first place.
Ultimately, these reasons drove me to revive the WikiProject on the heels of Wikipedia's 20th anniversary
on January 15, 2021. It's short, but it's what I can say for the reasons why I came to the decision to revive this WikiProject. I hope this WikiProject lasts for a long time, even when I'm not present as part of it. MarioJump83!
Hey, I noticed you moved the page to the "...March 17–18, 2021". I always get aggravated when users come in and change the titles, like when it got changed to "Saint Patrick's Day". I deliberately did not name it that and it got moved there anyway. I am glad you moved it back. I tried tagging the original title in CSD to get it moved back to "...March 17, 2021" but the CSD process is backlogged. I didn't proceed with the name change to the 18th because we always go by local time with the tornadoes (UTC confuses the general public – at least in the U.S.). With that in mind, technically this outbreak won't include the 18th until after 05z in a couple more hours. I don't think it'll be a problem though since I'm sure at least a couple tornadoes will occur tomorrow over the Carolinas. But, just a heads up for the future, we go by local time for date splits; this process has worked for years with little difficulty, so it would be best to maintain consistency. Thanks!
United States Man (
talk) 02:40, 18 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The content you added violates
WP:BLP being an unsourced allegation. Please don't add such content without a reliable source.
Schazjmd(talk) 20:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Pirx
Pirx (planet) True mass revealed to be far into the brown dwarf category, redirecting Tags: New redirect Reverted
Your edit has two grave problems: YOu did not provide any reference and you killed a well-developed article. The correct way is no rename and modify Pirx. I could have done this myself, but since you gave no refereences, I just reverted you.
Lembit Staan (
talk) 02:24, 2 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Proxima Centauri b
Hello MarioProtIV, you reverted my removal of the infobox entry for the radius of Proxima Centauri b with the edit message that the
paper is sourced. I think it's appropriate to include the information in the article's body, but not in the infobox. It is after all a guess from a model of the population of a lot of other planets. There is no evidence regarding the actual radius of Proxima Centauri b.
Icek~enwiki (
talk) 10:03, 4 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Masive reverts
Sorry, what is the objetive reason to revert my content?--
Piquito veloz (
talk) 20:12, 9 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Those images are redundant and from what I can see they seem to be not allowed according to what’ve I read on the talk page regarding them. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:13, 9 July 2021 (UTC)reply
MarioProIV, I had to remove your attempt at a report at
WP:AN3 as it was a mess. Meanwhile, Piquito veloz has filed a report against you. I suggest you respond.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 00:55, 10 July 2021 (UTC)reply
None of your arguments apply there, even the pic of the chief template of Kepler-22b appear without labeled sizes because is a pure artist´s concept.
New message in my report --
Piquito veloz (
talk) 14:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)reply
The country in which
the hurricane took place should be included to facilitate those that are not in that nation. --
Jax 0677 (
talk) 16:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)reply
That seems to imply that the storm is from North America and that wording is usually used to describe people. Tropical cyclones are not people so that doesn’t really work. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 16:52, 22 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I am reverting your addition of a date of birth to the infobox and lead of
Andi Matichak. That change needs a citation in the article. Putting "listed on superstarsbio" in the edit summary is not sufficient. Is "superstarsbio" a website, a book, or something else? Please provide a citation if you re-insert the reverted content.
Eddie Blick (
talk) 00:45, 23 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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WikiProject Weather 2022 C/B Class Drive
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Elijahandskip (
talk) 19:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)reply
delting Mid January 2022 winter storm section
MarioProtIV I have nodeced you are undoing my edits on Mid January 2022 winter storm section on the
2021-22 North American winter well you need to stop doing it you have alredy redone my edits 5 times.
Legensd(
talk) 21:39, 15 January 2022 (UTC)reply
If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's
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Per
MOS:BOLD, the title generally should not be bolded in the lead. In this case, adding the bolded title only makes the opening sentence more cumbersome and is redundant because the dates are already mentioned in the next line. If consistency is the problem, maybe the others should be changed as well. This practice is commonplace among tornado articles.
United States Man (
talk) 19:33, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
If it is redundant in the sentence simply just remove the date that is mentioned later on. Also, the bolding has not been an issue for the last several years from what it seems with regards to winter storms and is only seemingly a problem now because you’re bringing it up. Winter storms and tornado pages are two different things in this regard (one is a direct system, the other is a general event caused by a parent system) and thus the former has more weight to it. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:04, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The policy still applies, regardless of your feelings. The fact of other articles having it bolded is
WP:OTHERSTUFF.
United States Man (
talk) 20:12, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
How about you stop edit warring and try to get others on board with a policy change. I see you've been warned recently for edit warring with others.
United States Man (
talk) 20:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
As far as I’m aware, you’re the only one instigating this change and no one else has had an issue with this over the last few years (otherwise it would have been brought up already). Plus, regarding
this edit the Texas government officially referred to this as Uri, so the unboldening was not justified there. Also your dialogue here is pretty much encroaching on
WP:RUDE with the tone and whatnot. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The Texas government has nothing to do with what we do on Wikipedia. It was decided in some discussions way back that the TWC names could be italized but not bolded. All others are italized.
United States Man (
talk) 20:50, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
I can’t remember where the discussion is located, but I know that you know we had a discussion that the TWC names would not be bolded. Your latest edit was made out of spite, and if you like consistency as much as you say, you’d want them all to be italized.
United States Man (
talk) 23:19, 23 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Actually, that edit was because
MOS:BOLDALTNAMES states that alternative names can be boldened if there is significant enough attention given to it, which given the fact the Texas government itself referred to the storm as Uri, justifies the bolding. In addition, I do not even recall your point that we have a policy on this and the bolding of titles in general, it’s part of
MOS:BOLD and does not triumph project policy. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:07, 24 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Please make sure to correct talk pages when you do merges. This is the second time you have merged an article without redirecting the talk page nor changing the class to redirect.
Elijahandskip (
talk) 21:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC)reply
P.S. Also, please note that I have undone your revert. The exact reasons given for the initial revert go against the reason you created the blizzard article.
Elijahandskip (
talk) 21:35, 31 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Hello - so you inserted the full proper reference information for a number of references in this article. That is good. I notice that a bunch of the references seem to have been archived, but I could not in a cursory search see who did that step. Do you know if all the references need that step to ensure the pages of the particular websites/organizations are not lost if those pages get taken down? Hope to hear back. Thanks.
174.89.120.209 (
talk) 21:45, 19 February 2022 (UTC)reply
Also, now that I take a look at your talk page, what I see is a lot of warnings for apparent edit warring and no response.
38.125.67.137 (
talk) 18:30, 12 March 2022 (UTC)reply
If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, please seek assistance at Wikipedia's
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say hi!) 03:36, 19 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Your recent editing history at
Module:Storm categories/categories shows that you are currently engaged in an
edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the
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User:Chlod pointed out, you don't get to revert it just because you consider the consensus "poorly executed". You had a fair chance to state these objections during the RfC so it is already generous of us to entertain your relitigation of this. Knock it off with the reverts.
WP:IDONTLIKEIT.Jasper Deng(talk) 06:42, 21 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Reversion of my closure
Greetings, MarioProtIV. I wasn't originally going to make a big fuss about
this, but after looking at your talk page, I believe a gentle approach would be inappropriate to the situation, as you clearly are not getting other editors' complaints. There is a clear consensus at
Talk:February 13–17, 2021 North American winter storm#Merger that a merge should take place: I say that it is clear because there are five editors who support the merge in various degrees while you alone opposed it. By Wikipedia's standards (and by any standard, really), that is an overwhelming margin of support. Moreover, given that an editor
specifically requested that this discussion be closed, the community clearly feels that discussion has reached an end and that its chosen path should be implemented. However, after merely ten minutes, you reverted my closure, claiming that discussion had fizzled and consensus had never really been reached. There are several issues here. 1) It is never appropriate to unilaterally revert a closure, especially when you yourself were involved in the discussion (see
Wikipedia:Closing discussions#Challenging other closures for correct protocol). 2) That you reverted my closure so quickly after the discussion had been open so long suggests that you were paying attention to the discussion, meaning you could have continued it and further refined the consensus if you wanted; combined with how you have made no effort to do so since then, this gives the appearance that you are
stonewalling rather than truly seeking to refine the consensus. 3) You seem to misunderstand the nature of consensus, which does not need to exhaust all possible arguments and objections; rather, it is based on the strength of the arguments presented, as viewed through the lens of policy by an uninvolved editor. The requirement that the editor is uninvolved is crucial: because you have participated in the discussion, you already have an opinion on the subject, which makes it impossible for you to construct an opinion solely on the strength of other participants' arguments in the same way that an uninvolved editor can.
I am going to be frank with you: because you have already been warned numerous times about this behavior, including twice in the past three days, I seriously considered escalating this to a noticeboard directly. However, I also do not know whether anyone has ever attempted to explain these things to you, so I believed I should take the time to do so and give you a chance to correct your mistakes. With rare exceptions (which are listed
here), you should not make an edit if you know that another editor opposes it; doing so is called
edit warring. (One of the mistakes I made when I was new to Wikipedia was interpreting
WP:3RR as permission to revert up to three times: it's not. Rather it, is a red line that is never acceptable to cross. An edit war can happen even if editors are making only a single revert or fewer per day, if multiple total reverts happen.) When you know somebody disagrees with you, you should stop editing and discuss it on the talk page until everyone is in agreement about the correct course of action, or an uninvolved editor comes and determines what the consensus is. That means no editing to introduce compromises, either; get support for your compromise from the editors supporting the
status quo antebefore implementing it. There are several reasons why editors insist on talk page discussion over editing; apart from the obvious instability it causes, edit summaries have limited room and are therefore not conducive to good discussion and thus to consensus-forming. Moreover, the tone conveyed by reverts (especially multiple reverts) is aggressive (it sorta implies that another editor's edit was so stupid, it's not worth talking with them about it first), which can be upsetting and exhausting and therefore discourage participation, which harms the consensus-building process as well as the project as a whole. (This can be seen in how
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In sum, I ask that you please self-revert your reversion of my closure. I would also seriously rethink your conduct on
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My only reasoning for undoing the closure was because I and several others off-wiki had agreed on a different kind of process we’d do with the article (which was why there was a bunch of sources in the section below the discussion. There was not a clear consensus to merge from that discussion off-wiki which was why I undid your edit
in good faith (at least in my view). I will admit I have a bad record of trying to solve disputes with others and the conduct a few days ago was my fault and it shouldn’t have gotten that far. Another factor is probably I sometimes priories off-wiki consensus over on-wiki which can lead to this kind of behavior. I apologise for any damage that I may have brought to the community by this and surely I will engage in more appropriate behavior with consensus. The whole color saga shouldn’t have gotten to where it did but I was at least trying to take other people’s opinions that I received and at least we were able to come to a consensus (or at least a good proposal) that supports both sides. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:58, 22 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Mario, it does not matter whether you believe you had a valid reason to revert a close by an uninvolved editor. As explained above, doing so is NEVER acceptable. Also, I very strongly dislike that you are making these decisions based on what you perceive from off-wiki discussions. You can chat about it on Discord but the only consensus that has any force on Wikipedia is that achieved and documented on-wiki. See also
WP:Canvassing.—
Jasper Deng(talk) 08:07, 23 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I should add that you have a history of not replying to talk page posts of this sort, and then continuing this behavior. This suggests to me that you intend to
ignore or not take seriously others’ concerns, and thus that you’re wasting
Compassionate727 (
talk·contribs)’s time. This attitude is not acceptable, and if continued, will definitely result in your getting sanctioned. I expect that you will prove me wrong and address the concerns brought up here, because 5KB+ is a lot of text to write, and would only be written if they seriously believe you’ll read it.—
Jasper Deng(talk) 18:44, 22 March 2022 (UTC)reply
For what it’s worth I have a bad habit of reading the talk messages here, taking it into consideration but then forgetting to reply (as well as archiving once it gets long enough - I’m a bit lazy to be fair). I take all criticism fairly but I will admit I should be responding to these more so as to not give off a bad impression. Apologies if this made it seem otherwise.--MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:58, 22 March 2022 (UTC)reply
TheresNoTime beat me to the notice. You're not in trouble or anything; I just felt that issue of how the merger should ultimately be closed has grown beyond my capacity to handle on my own, so I brought it up a noticeboard where it will get more attention. We're required to use this specific template to notify you; otherwise, I would have just leave a normal message. You are, of course, welcome to help clarify the situation and give your own opinion. —
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No worries, I know that most editors don't realize they're required to give the notices at all. —
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So then why do all of the other films of the series like Kills and 2018 were written the way I had it? Very confusing. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 17:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)reply
It is always possible for other articles to get it wrong. We need to follow what reliable sources say the trends are, not try to identify these trends ourselves in the individual reviews.
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Halloween Ends synopsis
Appreciate the additions, but as it stands now, the synopsis reads a bit clunky and seems too long. My intention was to keep it as short as possible, and I thought the "crossing paths" with Michael would already be covered by the "series of events [...]"; the "final (?) confrontation" between Corey and Laurie could also be left out in my opinion as we're really only trying to cover the very basics in the lead. Any idea how we could condense the material?
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At the very least leave the Myers bit in there since that’s still a central theme despite less screen time. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 02:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)reply
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Regarding storm tracks
What thing do they violate? Im pretty confused on that
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Basically, we can’t use the “track” files on new storms since those are the old colors - we have to wait until someone uploads the path version. With older storms they are grandfathered in for now until we can upload new tracks. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 20:18, 24 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Ohhh alright cant you just enter in |color=new though because I have seen that in other articles before
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Yeah, it’s really bad.
Hurricane Otis - taken care of and it’s now BOLDly the main title. Have at it as I’ve just copied the framework over and it needs a LOT of polishing because of the major threat to land. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:09, 25 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I wrote up a bit on the precursor through the formation of the TS. I dont have time for more rn unfortunately. College...
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Hello, you deleted a page that I created about the as of now current winter storm in North America and redirected it to the broader page for winter in North America this season. I realize now that I was wrong about when it started, but why did you delete it? There is a page for the
January 8-10, 2024 North American storm complex, shouldn’t there be one for this storm too?
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I have just now seen your newest edit. So, all I have to do is not call it a blizzard, right?
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There is
a draft in progress for the earlier winter storm (which was responsible for the majority of the deaths currently especially in the South. I may likely create a new one for this current storm, which would likely be at
Draft:January 16–19, 2024 North American winter storm. The title you made was factually inaccurate as the current winter storm had no blizzard conditions or warnings aside from the mountains, which, in the article name POV, is not sufficient enough to leave at the current title. That would likely be the storm I redirected it to, although a better title would be
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Hey there, I saw you editing the aforementioned article. I was glad you removed the global warming "juiced up" bit, but was there a reason you removed the part about Hilary's remnants moving across the western US into Canada? ♫
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Mario, I have undone all your edits to the article for reasons I explained in the edit summary. I have told you numerous times now that you should be using edit summaries, yet your edit summary usage rate remains unacceptably low. Your edits frequently become controversial in part due to this, so instead of a request, this is now a demand.--
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I honestly forgot to add the summary for the edit and it was meant to explain why I removed the last bit about Hilary’s operational track since it got shortened (now I just reworded it), and I admit I was maybe a little biased in removing Maue’s claims because he can make wild claims in regards to the hurricane season, so that was my fault. I will include edit summaries more often now though so thanks for the demand. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks both Mario and
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original edit, removing the global warming bit, which, to their (his?) credit, had an edit summary that said "while likely true, I don’t think we should elevate his takes given he makes quite outlandish weather claims. Also not really appropriate for the section either." I honestly think this is true for most storm articles with the global warming connection. Hilary just happened to be one of many storms in recent years to have some sort of connection with global warming, even though
climate change refers to much longer term patterns in the Earth's climate, not solely connected to one individual storm. Before bringing up the discussion on Hilary's page (or the project), I wondered if I could ask both Mario and Jasper's thoughts on the global warming section in general for storm articles. ♫
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In my opinion, the linkage to global warming should be relevant and mentioned in the storm articles that generate widespread news coverage and mentions of these kind of events. I.e Harvey, Patricia, the big anomalies. Hilary is kind of borderline because while it did get close in the technical sense to a California landfall, there have been numerous instances in the years and decades past of similar close call events or their remnants affecting California in a big way. That’s different from extreme intensity in Patricia’s case or dumping feet of rain over a major metropolitan area in Harvey’s case, of which both have very clear global warming discussions centered around them. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 23:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
That makes sense I suppose. Hilary was just another Nora or Doreen, a once in 25 year event for that part of the world. ♫
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Seen it, thanks for heads up. FYI was wondering for a while when today it would come up since it didn’t seem like it’d get delayed again haha. Patience is key then. --
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