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I think it would probably be a good idea to start an RfC on the talk page instead of continuing to revert on the article. It's nearing 3RR territory for both you and Foxhound03. { } 22:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi! Yes I am still around, although extremely infrequent. Somehow (probably from my watchlist) I landed on an RfC in which you have been commenting. I was also surprised to see you active! Then I found your latest fascination and could not control participating ;) -- Dwaipayan ( talk) 18:55, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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Population table, the column with current populations is all mixed up. David notMD ( talk) 08:09, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi Aditya Kabir! In order to keep the discussion/RfC (or whatever it has become LOL) in the Project page on focus, I want to digress here on your talk page, if you allow.
The basic problem is at follows: ideally, languages evolve and diversify continually and gradually in time and place. The tree model captures this by establishing reference points from which a subset of members have evolved. This tree like-structure mirrors relative positions, but not absolute/discrete levels and categories. So you can e.g. say that out of a set {A,B,C,D,E,F,G}, {A,B,C}, {D,E}, and {F,G} form subsets based on common features. If all varieties from A to G are mutually unintelligible from each other, then usually we would call A to G "languages", and {A,B,C}, {D,E}, {F,G} "subgroups". If however each subset contains mutually intelligible members, then {A,B,C}, {D,E}, {F,G} would be called "languages", and the individual members "dialects" (e.g. A is a "dialect" of {A,B,C}).
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Now, the first problem is relativity: there is no sharp measurement for when to call {A,B,C} "one language with three dialects" or "one family/subgroup with three language". If they are very similar, the former makes sense, and if they are very different, the latter. But there certainly is a grey area (cf. Talk:Ainu language).
Things get even more messy when the "army and navy" thing comes to play, or in the South Asian context, "script and literary tradition". If {A,B,C,D,E,F,G} all were "tribal" only spoken village vernacualrs, the question of language vs. dialect is quite irrelevant. But the situation in NE South Asia is different: imagine that A, D and F have a literary tradition and can claim "language status". Speakers of B,C,E,G would then resort to A, D, or F as literary language. Naively, we would expect that speakers of B and C choose A as their literary language, and consequently consider their own speech a "dialect of A"; and dito for E choosing D and G choosing F.
This is not what happens in the Bengali-Assamese dialect cluster. A is so dominant for historical reasons, that not only B and C, but also E and G use A as literary language. So B,C,E,G are all called "dialects of A", while D and F are separate languages. As a result, sociolinguistics cross-cuts "pure" linguistics.
Translating the abstract example into NE South Asian reality: A=Bengali, D=Assamese, F=Sylheti. B and C would be close dialects of Standard Bengali, while E=Rangpuri, G=Chittagionian.
I hope this little digression restores your faith in language classification :) – Austronesier ( talk) 14:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, This is Mohd. Toukir Hamid. There has been some problem with Bangladesh Liberation War page. Srijanx22 always trying to focus on Indian victory and changed former all editing. His emotional comments and editing vandalize Wikipedia rule. Thank you.
Here's some scrumptious baklava for reaching a consensus through the constructive debates that we had in [1].😊 Srijanx22 ( talk) 07:36, 10 October 2020 (UTC) |
Hey, I think that was a mistake. Did you really intend to remove the text? Chaipau ( talk) 00:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi Aditya Kabir! The thread you created at the
Wikipedia:Teahouse,
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How the heck is History of the cleavage "not really" a duplicate of Cleavage (breasts)??? The four paragraphs of Cleavage_(breasts)#Ancient are exactly the same as the four paragraphs of History_of_the_cleavage#Antiquity, as are the other four sections. If you want to split a page, you need to properly use WP:SUMMARYSTYLE, not just copy-and-paste the content into a duplicate article with the same information. Reywas92 Talk 17:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
You have forgot to sign here. Might be a problem during closure. -- Zayeem (talk) 15:30, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I have been trying to make changes in Udal of Mahoba, Alha and Banaphar since few days, but obviously English administrators cannot understand Hindi language, that's why I need help of any administrator who understands hindi language. So can you please help me. If you can than please see my reliable sources for making changes in Talk:Udal of Mahoba Sumit banaphar ( talk) 18:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Is this help to make changes
The Lay of Alha: A Saga of Rajput Chivalry as Sung by Minstrels of Northern India Issue 3 of Studies in Rajasthani folk-legends [8] Sumit banaphar ( talk) 06:08, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
And I know I am bothering you, but if it is not necessary for me to make these changes, I do not bother you at all. It is very important for me. Sumit banaphar ( talk) 06:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Are you busy? Sumit banaphar ( talk) 12:03, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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Hello Aditya Bhaiya. Thank you for still remembering me. How are you? :D I miss the old days. I've always wanted to contribute but never made a strong comeback. I will try to remain consistent from now on. -- Tarif from Bangladesh ( talk) 07:08, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
I have been contacted by
Xerxes931 concerning
this edit on
Indian subcontinent. The RfC that you started showed clearly that there was no consensus among the editors to include Afghanistan on the lead. When
WP:NOCONSENSUS exists, this ... results in retaining the version of the article as it was prior to the proposal or bold edit.
This would mean the exclusion of Afghanistan from the lead. Adding back this text with the "concession" of "albeit rarely" is not in keeping with the discussion and is not "per RFC closure". Editing against consensus is
disruptive editing and attempting to force one's interpretation against the wishes of others after a discussion is
tendentious editing. Attempting to restore a very slightly changed contested text after an RfC could easily be considered both. I suggest that you remove the text and accept the outcome of the RfC for now.
Consensus can change but you should wait until attempting to see if a new discussion can achieve what you desire. There is
no deadline on Wikipedia, after all so time should not be a pressure.
Eggishorn
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User: Barkeep49, User:Eggishorn Aditya is continuing to edit war against the RFC consensus [9] and by that also again continuing his 12 Years long edit wars on the article. Someone seriously needs to do something against this, it’s going way too far. Xerxes931 ( talk) 00:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure why I'm being pinged ot this particular discussion. But here I am. I think the revised Afghanistan wording might be able to achieve consensus. Or it might not. But immediately running to another RfC (and then doing a second RfC on top of that) is not a healthy sign of attempting to form consensus. Also nearly all of this discussion really should be happening on the talk page so that other content editors are aware of it. Aditya your editing is right on the edge between legitimate BOLD editing attempts to find consensus and disruption. I would recommend you focus more on using discussion to find consensus rather than BOLD editing for the time being. Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Aditya Kabir! I don't think our paths have ever crossed before, but you seem to have a long history of valuable edits in this project. So I'm thoroughly perplexed by your recent addition to BKash, which I've reverted. That edit seems so out of character that I feel I should ask you to explain what was going on there. I'm a little concerned that you may have lost control of your account, please confirm that that is not so. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 11:40, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Aditya Kabir passes away, Daily Star, 10 December 2020.
Just noticed the sad news. Aditya, you were an amazing editor and I am not at all surprised to learn that you were a poet and a scholar as well. My condolences to your family and friends. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 20:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
I really appreciate you. Temperance Cook ( talk) 15:35, 11 March 2021 (UTC) |
Rest In Peace | |
Rest In Peace. Temperance Cook ( talk) 15:36, 11 March 2021 (UTC) |
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I think it would probably be a good idea to start an RfC on the talk page instead of continuing to revert on the article. It's nearing 3RR territory for both you and Foxhound03. { } 22:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi! Yes I am still around, although extremely infrequent. Somehow (probably from my watchlist) I landed on an RfC in which you have been commenting. I was also surprised to see you active! Then I found your latest fascination and could not control participating ;) -- Dwaipayan ( talk) 18:55, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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Population table, the column with current populations is all mixed up. David notMD ( talk) 08:09, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi Aditya Kabir! In order to keep the discussion/RfC (or whatever it has become LOL) in the Project page on focus, I want to digress here on your talk page, if you allow.
The basic problem is at follows: ideally, languages evolve and diversify continually and gradually in time and place. The tree model captures this by establishing reference points from which a subset of members have evolved. This tree like-structure mirrors relative positions, but not absolute/discrete levels and categories. So you can e.g. say that out of a set {A,B,C,D,E,F,G}, {A,B,C}, {D,E}, and {F,G} form subsets based on common features. If all varieties from A to G are mutually unintelligible from each other, then usually we would call A to G "languages", and {A,B,C}, {D,E}, {F,G} "subgroups". If however each subset contains mutually intelligible members, then {A,B,C}, {D,E}, {F,G} would be called "languages", and the individual members "dialects" (e.g. A is a "dialect" of {A,B,C}).
{ABCDEFG} |
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Now, the first problem is relativity: there is no sharp measurement for when to call {A,B,C} "one language with three dialects" or "one family/subgroup with three language". If they are very similar, the former makes sense, and if they are very different, the latter. But there certainly is a grey area (cf. Talk:Ainu language).
Things get even more messy when the "army and navy" thing comes to play, or in the South Asian context, "script and literary tradition". If {A,B,C,D,E,F,G} all were "tribal" only spoken village vernacualrs, the question of language vs. dialect is quite irrelevant. But the situation in NE South Asia is different: imagine that A, D and F have a literary tradition and can claim "language status". Speakers of B,C,E,G would then resort to A, D, or F as literary language. Naively, we would expect that speakers of B and C choose A as their literary language, and consequently consider their own speech a "dialect of A"; and dito for E choosing D and G choosing F.
This is not what happens in the Bengali-Assamese dialect cluster. A is so dominant for historical reasons, that not only B and C, but also E and G use A as literary language. So B,C,E,G are all called "dialects of A", while D and F are separate languages. As a result, sociolinguistics cross-cuts "pure" linguistics.
Translating the abstract example into NE South Asian reality: A=Bengali, D=Assamese, F=Sylheti. B and C would be close dialects of Standard Bengali, while E=Rangpuri, G=Chittagionian.
I hope this little digression restores your faith in language classification :) – Austronesier ( talk) 14:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Cleavage (breasts), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Burka.
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Hi, This is Mohd. Toukir Hamid. There has been some problem with Bangladesh Liberation War page. Srijanx22 always trying to focus on Indian victory and changed former all editing. His emotional comments and editing vandalize Wikipedia rule. Thank you.
Here's some scrumptious baklava for reaching a consensus through the constructive debates that we had in [1].😊 Srijanx22 ( talk) 07:36, 10 October 2020 (UTC) |
Hey, I think that was a mistake. Did you really intend to remove the text? Chaipau ( talk) 00:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi Aditya Kabir! The thread you created at the
Wikipedia:Teahouse,
|
How the heck is History of the cleavage "not really" a duplicate of Cleavage (breasts)??? The four paragraphs of Cleavage_(breasts)#Ancient are exactly the same as the four paragraphs of History_of_the_cleavage#Antiquity, as are the other four sections. If you want to split a page, you need to properly use WP:SUMMARYSTYLE, not just copy-and-paste the content into a duplicate article with the same information. Reywas92 Talk 17:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
You have forgot to sign here. Might be a problem during closure. -- Zayeem (talk) 15:30, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I have been trying to make changes in Udal of Mahoba, Alha and Banaphar since few days, but obviously English administrators cannot understand Hindi language, that's why I need help of any administrator who understands hindi language. So can you please help me. If you can than please see my reliable sources for making changes in Talk:Udal of Mahoba Sumit banaphar ( talk) 18:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Is this help to make changes
The Lay of Alha: A Saga of Rajput Chivalry as Sung by Minstrels of Northern India Issue 3 of Studies in Rajasthani folk-legends [8] Sumit banaphar ( talk) 06:08, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
And I know I am bothering you, but if it is not necessary for me to make these changes, I do not bother you at all. It is very important for me. Sumit banaphar ( talk) 06:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Are you busy? Sumit banaphar ( talk) 12:03, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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Issue 41, September – October 2020
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --10:47, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello Aditya Bhaiya. Thank you for still remembering me. How are you? :D I miss the old days. I've always wanted to contribute but never made a strong comeback. I will try to remain consistent from now on. -- Tarif from Bangladesh ( talk) 07:08, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
I have been contacted by
Xerxes931 concerning
this edit on
Indian subcontinent. The RfC that you started showed clearly that there was no consensus among the editors to include Afghanistan on the lead. When
WP:NOCONSENSUS exists, this ... results in retaining the version of the article as it was prior to the proposal or bold edit.
This would mean the exclusion of Afghanistan from the lead. Adding back this text with the "concession" of "albeit rarely" is not in keeping with the discussion and is not "per RFC closure". Editing against consensus is
disruptive editing and attempting to force one's interpretation against the wishes of others after a discussion is
tendentious editing. Attempting to restore a very slightly changed contested text after an RfC could easily be considered both. I suggest that you remove the text and accept the outcome of the RfC for now.
Consensus can change but you should wait until attempting to see if a new discussion can achieve what you desire. There is
no deadline on Wikipedia, after all so time should not be a pressure.
Eggishorn
(talk)
(contrib) 03:46, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
User: Barkeep49, User:Eggishorn Aditya is continuing to edit war against the RFC consensus [9] and by that also again continuing his 12 Years long edit wars on the article. Someone seriously needs to do something against this, it’s going way too far. Xerxes931 ( talk) 00:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure why I'm being pinged ot this particular discussion. But here I am. I think the revised Afghanistan wording might be able to achieve consensus. Or it might not. But immediately running to another RfC (and then doing a second RfC on top of that) is not a healthy sign of attempting to form consensus. Also nearly all of this discussion really should be happening on the talk page so that other content editors are aware of it. Aditya your editing is right on the edge between legitimate BOLD editing attempts to find consensus and disruption. I would recommend you focus more on using discussion to find consensus rather than BOLD editing for the time being. Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Aditya Kabir! I don't think our paths have ever crossed before, but you seem to have a long history of valuable edits in this project. So I'm thoroughly perplexed by your recent addition to BKash, which I've reverted. That edit seems so out of character that I feel I should ask you to explain what was going on there. I'm a little concerned that you may have lost control of your account, please confirm that that is not so. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 11:40, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Aditya Kabir passes away, Daily Star, 10 December 2020.
Just noticed the sad news. Aditya, you were an amazing editor and I am not at all surprised to learn that you were a poet and a scholar as well. My condolences to your family and friends. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 20:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
I really appreciate you. Temperance Cook ( talk) 15:35, 11 March 2021 (UTC) |
Rest In Peace | |
Rest In Peace. Temperance Cook ( talk) 15:36, 11 March 2021 (UTC) |
Eight years! |
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You will be remembered. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:16, 1 June 2022 (UTC)