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Thank You for stopping the issue. I feel hurt that Hotwiki lashed me out over High-Quality images. I did not do anything wrong. In my heart, I did it right but i have shortcomings. I hope you understand.
I request the closure of the Veluz330 account because i used Wikipedia Irresponsibly. Please approve my permanent account closure thanks.
You SON OF A BITCH you accused me that i got into a snit. Go ahead Punch me in the body.
What's "W/E" Coward?
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Legobot ( talk) 04:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
some time ago I wrote an article about Secure-K OS, which has been deleted by you because of notability concerns; time has passed and the operating system is now enlisted in the official directory of Distrowatch (distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=securek) and Softpedia, to name two important independent sources.
Considerig that system is the first (ISO9660) live to feature a kernel update - so it brings also innovation to the bunch of Linux lives - can a related article appear now?
Regards, Marco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcoburatto ( talk • contribs) 07:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, BlaccCrab is back using VanWinkle92. Same tone in edit summaries, and much the same topics as BlaccCrab—Sean Paul, Ty Dolla Sign, recent hip hop and alternative rock album, song and discography pages. They've even been edit warring with DovahDuck about what is a single and what's not on Trench (album), which was fully protected because of it. Another dead giveaway is that they expanded Pineapple (Ty Dolla Sign song) from a redirect, as Ty Dolla Sign appeared to be one of BlaccCrab's favourite targets. Ss 112 17:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Ad Orientem—as I hope you will agree I have been cautious and restrained in my participation at the Meessen De Clercq AfD since you have warned me about my problematic participation. I have a registered account. But the IP, variously known as 96.127.242.226, or 104.163.157.79, or 198.58.163.19, has free rein to say anything they want and almost nothing to loose. They have told me three times
[1]
[2]
[3] that I am bludgeoning the discussion. And with virtually every post that they make they are blatantly misrepresenting me. They present my argument entirely contrary to what I have argued, and I have corrected them many times. This is obviously a game that I am playing with someone who has nothing to lose. In their most recent post they say "If we adopt that as policy then movie theaters who show films by notable directors, bookstores that have author talks, bars and clubs that present notable musicians and perhaps even restaurants who have have hired notable chefs will all be eligible."
I never, ever—not even once—presented an argument which says that notable artists or notable artworks confer notability on art galleries. All I really ask is that you lift the verbal and informal restrictions on my participation in that AfD. I understand not to "bludgeon". I would like to feel free to participate and I promise to do so with restraint.
Bus stop (
talk) 22:26, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem—
here is 96.127.242.226/104.163.157.79/198.58.163.19 at another AfD for an art gallery telling me "Yes, and all of those articles were deleted, because what Justlettersandnumbers said was accurate. Please do not badger this AfD as you have done at other AfDs. If you keep up the WP:IDONTLIKEIT and walls of text, I would say you are headed for a topic ban."
I actually only made one post to that page although I did so in multiple edits. I have not
taken the bait and lashed out verbally at this unregistered account because I have a registered account. This is not a level playing field. Nor do I want to interact on that level. The IP's activity has a lot to do with me, and that is trolling. I have no doubt that they want these articles deleted but they also want to prevent me from participating in these discussions. By the way I have actually voted in favor of unregistered accounts during one of the times that this was under discussion. But this shows the abuse and unaccountability that unregistered accounts make possible.
Bus stop (
talk) 23:20, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem—I guess I should be glad that I have an IP to keep me in line. Here they are once again voicing objection to my method of participation. Their finalized version of their post was preceded by these tentative versions:
This IP has been saying this to me at several articles for deletion. Back in March of 2017 at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albemarle Gallery I've got this IP saying:
In all instances the IP is concerned with my behavior. But is their behavior proper? They have made me their private obsession. The aim is generally the same—that I've said too much and that it is time that I learned to be silent. This is an ongoing phenomenon and it doesn't show any sign of letting up. Thanks. Bus stop ( talk) 13:15, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
You forgot this one :) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus ( talk to me) 02:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of the problem but I should have stated that he did the same thing on his user page ARMcgrath ( talk) 02:58, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
I know he is. But still thank you and have a great evening ARMcgrath ( talk) 03:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
After spending some time into this, I have collected some evidence. CU logs are not reliable as you know and out of fear Usman47 indirectly admitted to be sharing same location as Hassan Guy.
Usman47 wrote "so that I can continue to positively contribute to this community" [13] in unblock request which is similar to unblock statements from Hassan Guy account.. "I can operate as a constructive member here and that I do in fact deserve a last chance," [14] "I really want to be a part of this website and contribute." [15] And they both never signed their unblock requests.
Both can't indent their comments. [16] [17]
His style of providing references is also same: [18] [19]
Hassan Guy told back in the day that: "I actually talked about this on defence.pk You see when I was first banned I actually talked about this on defence.pk (the pakistan defence forrum), I did end up getting in contact with my boys and I have seen whats been going on over the past week because it was raised up again. I saw that lovely page that indian dude made for me, I find it funny he thinks where all the same guy. (there not even in Oman anymore, i think idk)." [20] Usman47 seems to have discussed his Wikipedia incidents on defence.pk as well [21] about what he was doing on Regional power, during this same period. [22]
Even his statement here or defence.pk are same..
On Wikipedia:-
On defence.pk:-
Usman47 was clearly talking about his own experiences since he was the one who continued to "revert it to the previous version" [28] [29] and "give sources", [30] then try recruiting people on-wiki as well. [31]
Thanks Orientls ( talk) 19:38, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
This is a case of pure bad luck for me. I had no clue I was even suspected of this. You are right in your own sense that I happen to be making very similar mistakes to what he did. In fact the similarities between us are mind-boggling. You can have your doubts about me but to my defense if I was a sockpuppet and I had a little bit of brain left in me I won't do the same thing again due to which I had been blocked many times before. I was also not recruiting anyone neither did I get any help from them. Pak editor replied me like a day or 2 ago saying that the article was already fixed and then he asked for my help too [32]. When an article is disputed it's bound to get attention from multiple editors. Same goes for the Regional power article [33]. Now the article is in WP:DRN [34] and any decision that comes out of that will be accepted. Still I apologize for the inconvenience I have caused to both of you. btw I'm not on defence.pk and there is no proof that I ever posted anything on it because there are a lot of people on defence.pk who mentioned that they tried to the same thing when editing on Wikipedia. Please read [35]. When I posted that Hassan Guy's IP and my IP can be in the same range I was under the impression that maybe this is some sort of range block. When I looked back at all the evidence against me I was puzzled. It's just unexplainable. I can't prove that I am not a sockpuppet and I happen to be making very similar style of mistakes. From now on I will try my best not to get caught in this kind of issue. The reason I don't properly sign my comments is because of my inexperience. I will work on that too. Again I am very sorry for what happened. I won't mess around disputed articles again without first talking on the talk page. Usman47 ( talk) 02:00, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
—Ad Orientem am I now allowed to revert back the articles I have edited so far? I have spent a lot of time writing them and after this accusation they were all reverted back. Now since the accusation isn't proven what about all the hard work I have done? I am not talking about disputed articles here. These are the articles I was working on [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] Usman47 ( talk) 04:22, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! :) Usman47 ( talk) 14:48, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi AO, just wondering what you think on an issue. So Guns N' Roses recently re-released Appetite for Destruction and the album re-charted on a lot of countries' album charts. An editor has recently listed a whole new chart table on the album article and Guns N' Roses discography claiming that the re-released edition (called the "Locked N' Loaded Edition") has actually charted, when most chart publishers only list the original album (no 'edition') as re-charting. In fact, other than published articles that explicitly state "because of the re-release, the album has re-entered the chart", I can't find a single listing of the "Locked N' Loaded Edition" spelled out on a chart. This to me constitutes WP:OR because an editor is claiming they know better than or know what a chart publisher actually means when all the chart lists is the original album. It might be an "educated assumption" to some given the timing of the album re-entering and I don't deny this album has primarily bolstered its sales, but it's also not as if only the re-release is selling (as the original is still available), and it's still not in any of the sources that it is this specific edition that has charted, so I have tagged the sections for OR. Ss 112 04:20, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Talk:Dorothy Kilgallen. Warning is in regard to this edit [41]. Coming from a mere mortal editor, "Don't be dense" is really inappropriate. Coming from an administrator, it's really inappropriate as well as unacceptable. Especially when you consider the user is a newbie. Wikipedia already has an editor retention problem, please don't add to it. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 05:21, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Shooting on this film has begun. https://twitter.com/JohnSant87/status/1018121391907004417
Christian bale is in le mans france. You still think this movie is not going to get made ? They sent director and cast to france so they can cancel the movie ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula ( talk • contribs) 19:50, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
whats a reliable source ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula ( talk • contribs) 14:48, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
good morning thats a big ass page and I can't read it. My question is, why do you have a page about the movie "once upon a time in hollywood" but not about this movie ? that is being released in July 2019 and this is in June 2019..so this movie will come out before that and general public who wish to spend their money to watch this movie needs to know that this movie exists. By not allowing this page to exist you are hurting the box office of this movie. Don't you think it is pretty vile and evil ? delete one upon a time in hollywood page as well then I will shut the fuck up.
Hello. Its not about marketing. Its about treating all movie fairly. You should not show partiality to a movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
How about this IMDB - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1950186/?ref_=ttls_li_tt it's the most reliable source there is...under production notes you can see the status as filming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula ( talk • contribs) 15:26, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Dan Dubeau. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.
An anonymous editor, 197.87.171.111, has vandalized three pages: French Crown Jewels, Laurent Ronde, House of France. Given their persistent unnoticed vandalism, I have issued a single-notice warning. – Conservatrix ( talk) 05:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Can you revoke their talk too; they put the porn image in unblock request. Home Lander ( talk) 02:23, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi, you asked for a ping if there were problems with this one. Actually, while they looked benign, every edit they'd made since the last block was sneaky vandalism, because they altered citation URLs to ones that didn't exist. (One, the Il Messaggero edit, oddly didn't make a difference because of the odd way that Google Books IPs work, but it was clearly the same intention as the others). I've blocked them indef. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 00:16, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --- Coffeeand crumbs 18:36, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
As the previous blocking admin, could we get another block, please? Clearly they haven't bothered to understand that Wikias are WP:NOTRS. Amaury ( talk | contribs) 06:36, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, looks like Zara Larsson discography has been vandalised every so often for almost this entire month by a string of related IPs, most recently using 2.123.182.108. Can you maybe protect the page? Ss 112 10:32, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
vacate your closure at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Casa Ricci Social Services and relist the discussion.The !vote by a COI-affected article-creator (who has a reputation of spamming random nonsense) is hardly any significant and well, one vs one don't tilt it to a keep. ∯WBG converse 11:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Have a go at this. This user ( Foal Breeze) seems to believe their BS commentary on "writing a song about not caring is caring though!" is some kind of "Eureka!" analysis worthy of Wikipedia. I've tried to explain this is not encyclopedic already ( on their talk page) but they're not getting it. Maybe you can? They were also going off a few hours ago about how the article for Bon Appétit (song) not containing a mention of its "blatant oral sex references" must be an example of Wikipedia's self-censorship. This is some kind of newbie business I really fail to deal with very well. Ss 112 20:36, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Can you please indef block Westwoodtt2 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)? Given this user's activity on my talk page, this is probably the sock of a serious LTA vandal. Thanks. LightandDark2000 ( talk) 18:38, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick action. :) I left a couple of reports at WP:AVI on another recently-active LTA. Can you please give them a look? Thanks. LightandDark2000 ( talk) 18:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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Time to revoke their talkpage access. Thanks. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:FD84:CCD1:C7BC:1E17 ( talk) 05:34, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Persistent block evasion by 2001:8003:6F2D:C900:9CA7:4090:B128:ED7F ( talk · contribs). Perhaps all articles relating to characters from this show will need protection. Thank you, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 ( talk) 03:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
And perhaps you need to remind this user that you blocked me for THIRTY-ONE hours and THIRTY-ONE hours has passed. And point out to them that the only article relating to characters from this show I'm reverting is the one that a fan letter made notable enough-- 2001:8003:6F2D:C900:9CA7:4090:B128:ED7F ( talk) 03:25, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi, there. Hope it's okay if I come directly here. We've been dealing with an IP range that is persistently adding unsourced and biased content about the Asia version of Andi Mack since February 13. (The IP range starts with 180.) That IP range would later cause the article to become semi-protected twice, once on June 18 for one week and once on July 1 for one month. As you can see in the article history, almost immediately or shortly after, that IP range resumes its disruptive editing. Unfortunately, per this discussion, that IP range would be too large of a range to block as it would cause a lot of collateral damage. (Courtesy pings for MPFitz1968 and Geraldo Perez.) And so the only solution, really, is to either revert and block the individual IPs or revert and semi-protect the page. Because of the unblockable range, the latter is the better option here, but it's probably going to take quite a lengthy semi-protection to drive them away. Thanks for your time! Amaury ( talk | contribs) 16:19, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
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An ip user previously blocked by you here [46] is active again and is also doing disruptive edits and personal attacks here [47]. Can you please impose a block again? Thanking you in anticipation.- Kishfan ( talk) 13:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
On this topic AO, an IP user still blocked for adding unsourced personnel sections to country album articles on 74.99.150.2 is back using 98.117.10.121 doing exactly the same thing. Ss 112 17:47, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, looks like the vandals moved from Zara Larsson discography to now Charli XCX discography and Jess Glynne discography (the protection of which recently expired after what is probably the same IP did this last year). Can you maybe protect these pages? Thanks. Ss 112 20:53, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi AO. The user Adamklein84 has been editing Wikipedia for several years, oftentimes with the edit summary that their major removals are "minor edits by [act's] management". They have now done so at Bananarama, Alison Goldfrapp and most recently, Claire Richards. It is troubling they've gone this long without being warned about WP:COI (which I have just done) and seem to think removing between 2,000 and 4,000 bytes of information is in any way a minor edit. Do you think this user can edit constructively or that they're purely promotional and should be blocked? Ss 112 17:49, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi AO, there's been a user, Before the Storm, making contentious edits to Miley Cyrus edits for a few weeks now. They were blocked by Black Kite for disruptive editing two weeks ago after being reverted by three users (including myself) over and over across various pages, and in the past two days they've gone back to doing much the same thing. I've just reported them at ANV again but I'm getting the feeling this would not be the first instance of this if I went back through the histories of the articles they've been editing, and that this kind of persistence around one singer's articles is sockpuppet behaviour. Can you maybe drop a line to Bbb23 and ask if they have some time to check? Thanks. Ss 112 18:14, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
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Do you remember that editor who keep changing the date ranges of album articles? Well it appears that the editor is back again with a new IP 2601:240:CF80:2F61:83D:D572:EB53:D5A4. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 01:39, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, hope you're enjoying your vacation. Tried ANV, but it was removed by Materialscientist as being "unactionable". I suppose it isn't urgent anyway. BlaccCrab's back using 96.244.213.210—editing hip hop articles, still concerned with what is/isn't a single. Just from their edit summaries alone, it's quite easy to tell. But failing that, the IP geolocates to Maryland, where BlaccCrab previously had on their userpage they were from. Ss 112 04:51, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Although I don't know how much info was recorded, the Black Gold Stakes race should never have been deleted. Please undelete and I will take care of it. To help you understand, this race has been run for the past sixty years and is an important part of the Fair Grounds Race Course stakes program. All races properly done at Wikipedia should contain the winner's name, jockey, trainer, owner, time, purse, historical info and more. All of these can interconnect, either now or later at Wikipedia, to multiple things in multiple articles in the United States and even to Europe, Japan and Hong Kong. I'm sure there are times when a horse race should be deleted. However, I think there needs to be a way that any question about horse related articles should simply be posted to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse racing where someone with knowledge on the subject can examine it and respond. Thanks for your help. Stretchrunner ( talk) 12:09, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the info. Stretchrunner ( talk) 11:34, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
I am leaving. An email has been sent if you wish to remain in contact. It was good to contribute a bit of knowledge to Wikipedia, and despite the ugly blocks and warnings on my talk page I did write a few things myself. Happy to translate the Austrian, French, and Portuguese pelates. Good to have the commanders of the Bastille and Garde du Corps published. Sadly, I left my planters in shambles. Hopefully someone can pick-up where I left off. :) Au revoir! – Conservatrix ( talk) 17:33, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
It was perfectly fine where it was and was not any kind of issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BandGoBlue2020 ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Everything is perfectly reliable. There was a setlist and Dates were sourced reliably. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BandGoBlue2020 ( talk • contribs) 02:34, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
I am told "Your feelings about how Prager expresses himself have no place here. Please stop giving your personal opinions." Is this a violation of WP:BLP policy? Is it a violation of some other policy? I was under the impression that Talk pages allowed for some latitude of discussion for possible changes/improvements. You even wrote "Editors need to be able to discuss controversial topics relating to BLP subjects and the article talk page is normally where that occurs." [49] Where does that fine line get drawn between excessive discussion and necessary discussion? Thanks. Bus stop ( talk) 18:37, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
"controversial aspects of a BLP subject"and you refer to
"questions about the article and how it addresses controversial topics". When you say "controversy", what are you referring to? Please be specific—what is the "controversy"? Bus stop ( talk) 19:37, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem! Regarding your block here, it's clearly the same LTA as you blocked here. You mentioned "disruptive editing" as the reason for the new block, I just wasn't sure whether your remembered which LTA case the IP is connected to. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:38, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Alas, seems to think that calling me "extreme right wing" is not a "Personal Attack" and his original "anti-Semitic" words were not a personal attack either. I fear that he is quite likely to continue in this vein. I am especially amused by:
Collect ( talk) 13:19, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Continued personal attacks, this time at you. Please block and remove TPA. Thanx - FlightTime ( open channel) 18:08, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
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.Can you please see the above? There is no way for me to deal with this editor. This is supposed to involve collaborative editing in a WP:CIVIL environment? It is impossible. Every move I make results in a litigious response. See my Talk page: Misrepresenting other people, Edit war warning, Notice of discretionary sanctions, and Note - violating BLP and asking others to. Bus stop ( talk) 00:03, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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You added a warning to a user about his changes at Glima. He keeps adding uncited information anyway.-- Óli Gneisti ( talk) 10:47, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Your name was found on Feedback request service Politics, government, and law. Please join the discussion here and give your needed opinion on whether to include China's position concerning Hamas. Thanks! Veritycheck✔️ ( talk) 16:29, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Despite your talk page messages, looks like CrunchyCookie is now reverting everything, even edits that don't have anything to do with what they wanted to do on Muse discography: 1, 2, 3. I don't think they understand or are even willing to understand the basics of WP:BRD, WP:CONSENSUS—or even sourcing their edits. Maybe it requires you to intervene further, because I'm sure they're arrogant enough to continue reverting... Ss 112 09:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I think you left out a /64 there, yes? Suffusion of Yellow ( talk) 02:27, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
User keeps editing several articles disruptively. Is it time for a new block? SLBedit ( talk) 20:09, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
You have blocked this IP in the past for adding unsourced content in articles. The editor is still doing the same thing again recently [50]. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 14:36, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
On 19 September 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Tommy Best, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer T• C 00:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Legobot ( talk) 04:27, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Disruptively editing at Beyoncé discography, here, adding original research, which you specifically warned them about since December last year. It's coming up on a year later and they're still attempting to add the same thing despite the message that was on the article, despite their blocks for similar behaviour, etc. Ss 112 01:45, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, pretty sure the user BardiCardi is a sock, probably of MariaJaydHicky. Literally their second edit was a revert of an IP for genre warring and they've been reverting such things since. Can you maybe ask Bbb23 to take a look? Thanks. Ss 112 05:59, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Seriously. For restoring some of my faith back into the admin corps. Cheers - wolf 21:46, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I've left a message on Talk:Titanic II regarding Palmer's latest announcement on the project. Blue Riband► 11:56, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
Shredded77 ( talk · contribs) This editor keeps adding poorly sourced content in the Astroworld article [51] [52] [53]. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 18:08, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
I did some looking through pages frequented by My Royal Young, and found this IP making edits in a pattern that suggests it would be him/her. The editing history isn't enough for a block (yet), but I thought I would point it out since this IP range is not on Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/My Royal Young. Morphdog talk 02:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick and logical help with that outbreak of silliness. I hope that they'll calm down a bit now, maybe. Best wishes DBaK ( talk) 20:41, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem,
I'm inviting admins to join our team at parli.co providing advice on how to build and manage a collaborative website. Parli.co is an emerging project aiming at building a sort of Wikipedia of arguments around controversial topics (more info here). Part of our budget will be destined to such consultancy work, and we think we could benefit from the experience of Wikipedia janitors and admins. Feel free to message me back with interest and questions. -- isacdaavid 22:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
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There is an editor named Aitch & Aitch Aitch who been making bold edits in articles. For example, in ? the editor add unsourced genres [56] and have been reverted by Theo Mandela and Binksternet [57] [58], and been warned by Binksternet for starting an edit war, after that warning the editor restore it again [59]. This happened in several other articles, most notably in Flower Boy [60] [61] and Atrocity Exhibition [62] [63]. Keep in mind this editor have been warned multiple times by other editors. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 17:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
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I assume you'll revdel their edits, too? Also, there is at least one more of the bird boys down the page history. Not concerned abiab the content re: revdel ( been called much worse), it's the edit summaries. John from Idegon ( talk) 04:31, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO. The editor "EditorE" was blocked indefinitely early last month for their OTT "insults" directed at me, which I told you about via email until they were blocked after a thread opened at ANI before you saw it. I've caught them using 108.17.12.203. Exactly the same topics and types of edits: EditorE refused to use cite web templates and always spaced their references like this. They were making almost exclusively chart-related edits until their account was blocked, and that's primarily what this editor is focusing on. I've reverted the majority of their remaining edits. It's also no surprise they began editing using this IP straight after they were blocked on EditorE. I'll report them back to you if they come back using another. Ss 112 05:42, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem You wrote:You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at History of the Catholic Church.
Please explain to me how I am disrupting Wikipedia? You then wrote: Switching IP addresses will not prevent measures from being taken to stop POV editing. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I haven't the slightest idea on how to switch my IP address.
You then wrote: If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
I am not sure what a shared IP address is. I did note make the edits today. I am waiting until Tuesday to edit in order to prevent being silenced because of WP:EDITWAR. I would prefer to remain anonymous
Respectfully, I am only trying to maintain the dignity, credibility, and integrity of Wikipedia. I trust that you and I are pursuing this common goal. 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 01:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I believe I have reached consensus. Please see /info/en/?search=User_talk:Citizen_Canine
After I tirelessly walked Citizen Canine through the first two of my fifty citations, you will see that he writes, "Fine, if you believe the two statements "The history of the Catholic Church begins with Jesus Christ and his teachings (c. 4 BC – c. AD 30) and the Catholic Church is a continuation of the early Christian community established by Jesus." and "According to history, the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ." are supported as reliable assertions by ANY of the sources you cited, go ahead and make those changes again. I very much look forward to seeing how it goes down 😎 Citizen Canine (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2018 (UTC)."
And then, if you read: /info/en/?search=User_talk:72.208.204.252
You will see that Bennv3771 says, "Regardless, I'm not gonna edit war with you over this, so I'll leave your edit up and if it it reverted by someone else, please cite references that explicitly verify your claim. Bennv3771 (talk) 02:24, 20 September 2018 (UTC We then continue this dialogue here: /info/en/?search=Talk:History_of_the_Catholic_Church
Bennv3771 says, "I would support reverting back to the original wording as no WP:RS has been provided to verify this change. Glad you've started this discussion. Would be good to get consensus since the anonymous user is extremely insistent that their assertion remains. Bennv3771 (talk) 06:38, 22 September 2018 (UTC)"
I responded to Bennv3771 by reminding her that, "You were being dishonest when you made this statement. You know very well that I have provided over fifty citations on numerous occasions."
Bennv3771 then says, There is nothing to settle between us. I haven't edited this article in over 2 weeks. Other editors are repeatedly reverting your edits, although you keep singling me out for whatever reason. And no, these editors are not my "co-conspirators" according to the Websters definition, as we are not "acting in harmony". Those editors are all acting independently and apparently coming to the same conclusions. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort and right now the consensus is against your changes. You can start another discussion and try to get consensus for your changes. Bennv3771 (talk) 10:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)"
I then, painstakingly, and tirelessly, walk Bennv3771 through the first of fifty citations in order to help her to understand how these citations support my claim but to no avail because she had already conceded that, "I'll leave your edit up."
At the same time that I was in dialogue with Bennv3771, I took Bennv3771's advice, "You can start another discussion and try to get consensus for your changes" by attempting to start dialogues with Citizen Canine, JackintheBox, and Zenadix.
Please see: /info/en/?search=User_talk:Citizen_Canine, /info/en/?search=User_talk:JackintheBox, and /info/en/?search=User_talk:Zenadix
Careful review of these links will show that I attempted consensus with all three and only citizen canine responded.
Please note again that Citizen Canine conceded when he responded, ""Fine, if you believe the two statements "The history of the Catholic Church begins with Jesus Christ and his teachings (c. 4 BC – c. AD 30) and the Catholic Church is a continuation of the early Christian community established by Jesus." and "According to history, the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ." are supported as reliable assertions by ANY of the sources you cited, go ahead and make those changes again. I very much look forward to seeing how it goes down 😎 Citizen Canine (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2018 (UTC)."
I am willing to take the time to illustrate this change to anyone that questions it for the benefit of Wikipedia's dignity, credibility, and integrity.
According to the record, I have reached consensus with 2 out of the 4 editors who challenged my change.
The other 2 have yet to respond to my inquiry for consensus.
It is unclear; are you also challenging my change?
If so, I would like to also open dialogue with you in order to arrive at consensus.
Please inform me on how we are to proceed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 01:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC) 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 01:53, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I apologize for indenting my paragraphs. I was doing this at the urging of Citizen Canine, "As an aside, in future please indent your paragraphs."
By now, it is probably obvious that I am an old-fashioned, computer-illiterate, two fingered typist, history buff who is working diligently to uphold the dignity, credibility, and integrity of Wikipedia.
Please excuse me for my lack of computer etiquette. I prefer books and I am surrounded by them.
You said, "My guess is that Citizen Canine was being somewhat satirical." Rather than, "guessing", I think we should just stick to the facts. The fact of the matter shows that citizen canine said, "Fine ...go ahead and make those changes again." Unfortunately, do to Wikipedia's WP:EDITWAR policy, I was unable to follow Citizen Canine's instruction and do as he had requested.
You also said, "This needs to be sorted out on the talk page of the article where everyone can join in the same discussion. And I very much doubt you have reached consensus."
I have already attempted this: /info/en/?search=Talk:History_of_the_Catholic_Church and I have demonstrated how 2 of the 4 editors have conceded and that the other 2 of the 4 editors failed to respond to my inquiry for consensus.
This brings us to the first point in your reply when you said, "I am acting here purely in my capacity as an administrator." If one was to carefully review my participation in the editing of Wikipedia's, "History of the Catholic Church" , they will not only see that I am doing my best to follow the guidelines established by Wikipedia, while being factual and transparent.
On the other hand, when reviewing your participation in the editing of Wikipedia's, "History of the Catholic Church" , it will be difficult to draw the conclusion that you are, "acting here purely in my capacity as an administrator."
Take for instance, the last few changes to this topic:
(cur | prev) 00:13, 8 October 2018 Ad Orientem (talk | contribs) . . (136,671 bytes) (+25) . . (Reverted to revision 862886815 by JackintheBox (talk): Rvt POV editing. (TW)) (Tag: Undo)
(cur | prev) 00:04, 8 October 2018 2600:1700:b7a0:3a90:7807:ea8d:3c08:ecb (talk) . . (136,646 bytes) (+9) (cur | prev) 23:32, 7 October 2018 2600:1011:b166:f60:d83d:1a2:7ac3:2d04 (talk) . . (136,637 bytes) (-34)
This shows that someone other than myself edited this passage and you in turn reverted it back without taking the time to thoroughly investigate it.
Instead, you accused me here: /info/en/?search=User_talk:72.208.204.252
by stating, " October 2018 Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at History of the Catholic Church. Switching IP addresses will not prevent measures from being taken to stop POV editing. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC)"
I believe that is incumbent upon you, in your capacity as an administrator, to fully investigate the entire issue by first reviewing all of the supporting documentation, prior to hurling accusations, threats, and arriving at far reaching conjectures.
I also believe that your actions fall under a cloud of impropriety:
1. When you failed to fully investigate the entire issue by first reviewing all of the supporting documentation 2. When you assumed that I covertly switched my IP address (to be honest, I had to look up what an IP address even was) and made a change to the article (I also did not know a change was even made) 3. When you took a "guess" at what Citizen Canine meant while disregarding what he actually said, "Fine ...go ahead and make those changes again." 4. When you ignored what Bennve3771 said, "Regardless.... I'll leave your edit up" and then later added in an effort to show her sincerity regarding this issue, "I haven't edited this article in over 2 weeks." 5. When you ignored the fact that the other 2 editors that challenged my change ignored my invitation to dialogue in order to reach consensus. 6. And in spite of the above mentioned, you disregarded over 50 citations that I had offered, accused me of edit warring, accused me of not proceeding to the article talk page in order to seek WP:CONSENSUSand finally, (and most insultingly) accused me of being disruptive
Is there a way to have the improper actions of an administrator be reviewed by maybe some other unbiased administrators? 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 03:25, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
At this point, I would like to respectfully request that you: 1. Admit your error, 2. Offer a meaningful apology to me and the million-users of Wikipedia, and 3. In light of all of the presented evidence allow the changes that I have made (at least until someone else challenges them). 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 03:35, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Within hours of the prior page block expiration, the IP vandal returned, they continue to use a dynamic. -- Green C 17:29, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Please see my message at Talk:Titanic_II#September_2018_Palmer_Announcement. Blue Riband► 15:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO. I just noticed that Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:DanTheMusicMan2 was closed five or so days ago but his user page was not actually deleted? His talk page was but his user page is very much still there with the 500KB of listcruft still on it... Ss 112 22:45, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Looks like Pennsylvania-located PeopleEater143 is back using 156.12.252.246, leaving their typical self-righteous edit summaries like "Where is your source for that? You can’t just say stuff and not include a source for it." A summary they've repeated about the place about 20 times in the past few months. Ss 112 11:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
The editor is still adding unsourced or poorly sourced content. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 19:03, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Hey, just emailed you about the deletion of my redirect.-- N Ø 05:06, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers. Legobot ( talk) 04:24, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, there's a user by the name of LRLArch who's been edit warring to maintain their own version of various articles on-and-off for several years. Looks like they've gotten to thinking constant reverts are the way Wikipedia works, instead of WP:BRD. I've warned them on their talk page for their four reverts in one day (two separate times) on The 1975 discography, where a week ago, they ignored commented-out messages to discuss any changes to the content and instead changed it to their preferred version then edit warred with other editors (even reverting a bot) to keep it that way. I think it's gone far enough with them; can you have a word to them? I already have but, as you know, admins' words hold more weight than users'. If it continues I'll let you know. Ss 112 23:03, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Ad Orientem. Special:Contributions/24.73.197.194 – Carried our the same exact disruptive editing after a one-year block expired. Think this IP should be banned. -- Wikipedical ( talk) 18:01, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.-- Cahk ( talk) 18:33, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
After you blocked 108.17.12.203, he's back using 108.17.18.29 Very similar IP address...do you think a rangeblock is in order? They resumed editing about three days after you last blocked them; clearly persistent. Ss 112 12:29, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Looks like Chris Brown-loving sock Giubbotto non ortodosso (whose socks you've blocked several times) is back as HeartbreakOnAFullMoon (named after Brown's last album, a dead giveaway). Ss 112 06:44, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Break Through the Silence (EP) should've been deleted because it uses an incorrect disambiguator. It's a dual single not an EP, a more appropriate title would be Break Through the Silence (single). Flooded with them hundreds 05:30, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Howdy!, you added protection earlier today to an article I created upon request of another editor who was trying to help. Thank you, but I just tried to edit the article and it won't save my edits. Could you check into that when you have a second? The editor who refused to stop making unsourced edits was the target. I have a login and should be able to edit it, I have autoconfirmed and/or confirmed access, etc. I was hoping to be able to make some edits in peace for the two days you gave me. Thanks a bunch! dawnleelynn (talk) 03:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Using 156.12.253.148, a Pennsylvania-based IP that frequently edits on mobile (based on the location, this is consistent). Same attitude in their edit summaries, rhetorical questions and calls to "be consistent", and edit warring with an editor on Cody Simpson. They've used two 156.-range IPs on The Pains of Growing now and have been extensively editing Cody Simpson, so maybe those are in need of page protection to stop the socking temporarily? Ss 112 14:47, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
—— SerialNumber 54129 14:52, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
It seem like Tjdrum2000 is back again using another account and bring disruptive as usual [64] [65] [66] [67]. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 18:43, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
GAB gab 14:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, can you protect Dua Lipa discography? An IP that's changed a few times has been removing content since at least October 21 with no explanation given. They've been reverted by another editor and it's getting annoying to have to revert over and over. Thanks! Ss 112 15:33, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2018).
Hello Ad Orientem. Both Jimmy everettt and Jimmy everetttt are CU-confirmed Nsmutte socks doing a joe-job on Jimmy everett who is not Nsmutte, so I'd like to ask you to revisit this block. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, looks like we have PeopleEater143 block evading using another Pennsylvania-based IP, 2600:387:3:801:0:0:0:A5 on Caution (Mariah Carey album). Characteristic snark and criticism of whoever wrote the article's grammar. Definitely them. Do you think the article warrants protection yet as a sock target? I understand if not, but I thought maybe it might warrant protection only for a short term. Ss 112 18:23, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO. There's an editor by the name of Wells.grace who has contributed substantitally to the article Shatta Wale. The article reads like one big puff piece and there's still quite a bit to bring it line with an encyclopedic tone and the Manual of Style, yet this editor feels slighted because they're a fan of the rapper (which explains the glowing tone of the article). I've warned them twice now for removing maintenance templates and they have removed them twice. Can you maybe drop them a line about it? This time I'm not even sure they'll listen to you—I just think they'll keep removing them until a final warning has to be given. Ss 112 18:56, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Just came across an editor by the name of Johannes275 who has this charming user page that reads like a load of vandalism garbage written by a hyperactive teenager. What's your take on it? Ss 112 18:56, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Johannes275 here. Very sorry, but that has been deleted. I apologize for any inconvenience. I am not a hyperactive teenager; I wish to contribute to Wikipedia as best I can. I do not tolerate vandalism, and I deeply regret having put that as my user page.
Would you be able to protect Caution (Mariah Carey album) and block 156.12.249.29? They've now claimed "I tried to put in an unblock request" on my talk page, although through what account I don't know. Still block evading; they were purely disruptive and edit warring in the past, there's no real coming back from that. Ss 112 19:49, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
There is an editor who is adding unsourced or poorly sourced content in articles [69] [70], the editor is also edit-warring in the Tragedy article [71] [72] [73]. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 15:36, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem, i watch some high profile users' talk pages in order to revert vandalism or answer to some questions by newcomers/unexperienced users. Please let me know if you allow me to watch your talk for the above purposes. Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 21:44, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, sorry for inundating you with messages today, but could you maybe look into protecting A Brief Inquiry into Online Relationships? Several IPs (including one persistent one) is editing against what sources say, refusing to explain their edits, and has been warned. It's an everyday occurrence. Ss 112 21:45, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Using 2600:387:3:801:0:0:0:B3. That's the exact same IP they used to evade a block in 2017—you can see they edited their old favourite target, List of 2017 albums and several albums in 2017 with their characteristic edit summaries and editing from mobile. They have edited Baby (Clean Bandit song) yet again (page protection needed?). There is no helping them—they are a lost cause. They will just do this over and over. Ss 112 23:34, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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Thank You for stopping the issue. I feel hurt that Hotwiki lashed me out over High-Quality images. I did not do anything wrong. In my heart, I did it right but i have shortcomings. I hope you understand.
I request the closure of the Veluz330 account because i used Wikipedia Irresponsibly. Please approve my permanent account closure thanks.
You SON OF A BITCH you accused me that i got into a snit. Go ahead Punch me in the body.
What's "W/E" Coward?
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Legobot ( talk) 04:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
some time ago I wrote an article about Secure-K OS, which has been deleted by you because of notability concerns; time has passed and the operating system is now enlisted in the official directory of Distrowatch (distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=securek) and Softpedia, to name two important independent sources.
Considerig that system is the first (ISO9660) live to feature a kernel update - so it brings also innovation to the bunch of Linux lives - can a related article appear now?
Regards, Marco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcoburatto ( talk • contribs) 07:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, BlaccCrab is back using VanWinkle92. Same tone in edit summaries, and much the same topics as BlaccCrab—Sean Paul, Ty Dolla Sign, recent hip hop and alternative rock album, song and discography pages. They've even been edit warring with DovahDuck about what is a single and what's not on Trench (album), which was fully protected because of it. Another dead giveaway is that they expanded Pineapple (Ty Dolla Sign song) from a redirect, as Ty Dolla Sign appeared to be one of BlaccCrab's favourite targets. Ss 112 17:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Ad Orientem—as I hope you will agree I have been cautious and restrained in my participation at the Meessen De Clercq AfD since you have warned me about my problematic participation. I have a registered account. But the IP, variously known as 96.127.242.226, or 104.163.157.79, or 198.58.163.19, has free rein to say anything they want and almost nothing to loose. They have told me three times
[1]
[2]
[3] that I am bludgeoning the discussion. And with virtually every post that they make they are blatantly misrepresenting me. They present my argument entirely contrary to what I have argued, and I have corrected them many times. This is obviously a game that I am playing with someone who has nothing to lose. In their most recent post they say "If we adopt that as policy then movie theaters who show films by notable directors, bookstores that have author talks, bars and clubs that present notable musicians and perhaps even restaurants who have have hired notable chefs will all be eligible."
I never, ever—not even once—presented an argument which says that notable artists or notable artworks confer notability on art galleries. All I really ask is that you lift the verbal and informal restrictions on my participation in that AfD. I understand not to "bludgeon". I would like to feel free to participate and I promise to do so with restraint.
Bus stop (
talk) 22:26, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem—
here is 96.127.242.226/104.163.157.79/198.58.163.19 at another AfD for an art gallery telling me "Yes, and all of those articles were deleted, because what Justlettersandnumbers said was accurate. Please do not badger this AfD as you have done at other AfDs. If you keep up the WP:IDONTLIKEIT and walls of text, I would say you are headed for a topic ban."
I actually only made one post to that page although I did so in multiple edits. I have not
taken the bait and lashed out verbally at this unregistered account because I have a registered account. This is not a level playing field. Nor do I want to interact on that level. The IP's activity has a lot to do with me, and that is trolling. I have no doubt that they want these articles deleted but they also want to prevent me from participating in these discussions. By the way I have actually voted in favor of unregistered accounts during one of the times that this was under discussion. But this shows the abuse and unaccountability that unregistered accounts make possible.
Bus stop (
talk) 23:20, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem—I guess I should be glad that I have an IP to keep me in line. Here they are once again voicing objection to my method of participation. Their finalized version of their post was preceded by these tentative versions:
This IP has been saying this to me at several articles for deletion. Back in March of 2017 at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albemarle Gallery I've got this IP saying:
In all instances the IP is concerned with my behavior. But is their behavior proper? They have made me their private obsession. The aim is generally the same—that I've said too much and that it is time that I learned to be silent. This is an ongoing phenomenon and it doesn't show any sign of letting up. Thanks. Bus stop ( talk) 13:15, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
You forgot this one :) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus ( talk to me) 02:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of the problem but I should have stated that he did the same thing on his user page ARMcgrath ( talk) 02:58, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
I know he is. But still thank you and have a great evening ARMcgrath ( talk) 03:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
After spending some time into this, I have collected some evidence. CU logs are not reliable as you know and out of fear Usman47 indirectly admitted to be sharing same location as Hassan Guy.
Usman47 wrote "so that I can continue to positively contribute to this community" [13] in unblock request which is similar to unblock statements from Hassan Guy account.. "I can operate as a constructive member here and that I do in fact deserve a last chance," [14] "I really want to be a part of this website and contribute." [15] And they both never signed their unblock requests.
Both can't indent their comments. [16] [17]
His style of providing references is also same: [18] [19]
Hassan Guy told back in the day that: "I actually talked about this on defence.pk You see when I was first banned I actually talked about this on defence.pk (the pakistan defence forrum), I did end up getting in contact with my boys and I have seen whats been going on over the past week because it was raised up again. I saw that lovely page that indian dude made for me, I find it funny he thinks where all the same guy. (there not even in Oman anymore, i think idk)." [20] Usman47 seems to have discussed his Wikipedia incidents on defence.pk as well [21] about what he was doing on Regional power, during this same period. [22]
Even his statement here or defence.pk are same..
On Wikipedia:-
On defence.pk:-
Usman47 was clearly talking about his own experiences since he was the one who continued to "revert it to the previous version" [28] [29] and "give sources", [30] then try recruiting people on-wiki as well. [31]
Thanks Orientls ( talk) 19:38, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
This is a case of pure bad luck for me. I had no clue I was even suspected of this. You are right in your own sense that I happen to be making very similar mistakes to what he did. In fact the similarities between us are mind-boggling. You can have your doubts about me but to my defense if I was a sockpuppet and I had a little bit of brain left in me I won't do the same thing again due to which I had been blocked many times before. I was also not recruiting anyone neither did I get any help from them. Pak editor replied me like a day or 2 ago saying that the article was already fixed and then he asked for my help too [32]. When an article is disputed it's bound to get attention from multiple editors. Same goes for the Regional power article [33]. Now the article is in WP:DRN [34] and any decision that comes out of that will be accepted. Still I apologize for the inconvenience I have caused to both of you. btw I'm not on defence.pk and there is no proof that I ever posted anything on it because there are a lot of people on defence.pk who mentioned that they tried to the same thing when editing on Wikipedia. Please read [35]. When I posted that Hassan Guy's IP and my IP can be in the same range I was under the impression that maybe this is some sort of range block. When I looked back at all the evidence against me I was puzzled. It's just unexplainable. I can't prove that I am not a sockpuppet and I happen to be making very similar style of mistakes. From now on I will try my best not to get caught in this kind of issue. The reason I don't properly sign my comments is because of my inexperience. I will work on that too. Again I am very sorry for what happened. I won't mess around disputed articles again without first talking on the talk page. Usman47 ( talk) 02:00, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
—Ad Orientem am I now allowed to revert back the articles I have edited so far? I have spent a lot of time writing them and after this accusation they were all reverted back. Now since the accusation isn't proven what about all the hard work I have done? I am not talking about disputed articles here. These are the articles I was working on [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] Usman47 ( talk) 04:22, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! :) Usman47 ( talk) 14:48, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi AO, just wondering what you think on an issue. So Guns N' Roses recently re-released Appetite for Destruction and the album re-charted on a lot of countries' album charts. An editor has recently listed a whole new chart table on the album article and Guns N' Roses discography claiming that the re-released edition (called the "Locked N' Loaded Edition") has actually charted, when most chart publishers only list the original album (no 'edition') as re-charting. In fact, other than published articles that explicitly state "because of the re-release, the album has re-entered the chart", I can't find a single listing of the "Locked N' Loaded Edition" spelled out on a chart. This to me constitutes WP:OR because an editor is claiming they know better than or know what a chart publisher actually means when all the chart lists is the original album. It might be an "educated assumption" to some given the timing of the album re-entering and I don't deny this album has primarily bolstered its sales, but it's also not as if only the re-release is selling (as the original is still available), and it's still not in any of the sources that it is this specific edition that has charted, so I have tagged the sections for OR. Ss 112 04:20, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Talk:Dorothy Kilgallen. Warning is in regard to this edit [41]. Coming from a mere mortal editor, "Don't be dense" is really inappropriate. Coming from an administrator, it's really inappropriate as well as unacceptable. Especially when you consider the user is a newbie. Wikipedia already has an editor retention problem, please don't add to it. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 05:21, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Shooting on this film has begun. https://twitter.com/JohnSant87/status/1018121391907004417
Christian bale is in le mans france. You still think this movie is not going to get made ? They sent director and cast to france so they can cancel the movie ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula ( talk • contribs) 19:50, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
whats a reliable source ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula ( talk • contribs) 14:48, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
good morning thats a big ass page and I can't read it. My question is, why do you have a page about the movie "once upon a time in hollywood" but not about this movie ? that is being released in July 2019 and this is in June 2019..so this movie will come out before that and general public who wish to spend their money to watch this movie needs to know that this movie exists. By not allowing this page to exist you are hurting the box office of this movie. Don't you think it is pretty vile and evil ? delete one upon a time in hollywood page as well then I will shut the fuck up.
Hello. Its not about marketing. Its about treating all movie fairly. You should not show partiality to a movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
How about this IMDB - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1950186/?ref_=ttls_li_tt it's the most reliable source there is...under production notes you can see the status as filming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula ( talk • contribs) 15:26, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Dan Dubeau. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.
An anonymous editor, 197.87.171.111, has vandalized three pages: French Crown Jewels, Laurent Ronde, House of France. Given their persistent unnoticed vandalism, I have issued a single-notice warning. – Conservatrix ( talk) 05:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Can you revoke their talk too; they put the porn image in unblock request. Home Lander ( talk) 02:23, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi, you asked for a ping if there were problems with this one. Actually, while they looked benign, every edit they'd made since the last block was sneaky vandalism, because they altered citation URLs to ones that didn't exist. (One, the Il Messaggero edit, oddly didn't make a difference because of the odd way that Google Books IPs work, but it was clearly the same intention as the others). I've blocked them indef. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 00:16, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --- Coffeeand crumbs 18:36, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
As the previous blocking admin, could we get another block, please? Clearly they haven't bothered to understand that Wikias are WP:NOTRS. Amaury ( talk | contribs) 06:36, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, looks like Zara Larsson discography has been vandalised every so often for almost this entire month by a string of related IPs, most recently using 2.123.182.108. Can you maybe protect the page? Ss 112 10:32, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
vacate your closure at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Casa Ricci Social Services and relist the discussion.The !vote by a COI-affected article-creator (who has a reputation of spamming random nonsense) is hardly any significant and well, one vs one don't tilt it to a keep. ∯WBG converse 11:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Have a go at this. This user ( Foal Breeze) seems to believe their BS commentary on "writing a song about not caring is caring though!" is some kind of "Eureka!" analysis worthy of Wikipedia. I've tried to explain this is not encyclopedic already ( on their talk page) but they're not getting it. Maybe you can? They were also going off a few hours ago about how the article for Bon Appétit (song) not containing a mention of its "blatant oral sex references" must be an example of Wikipedia's self-censorship. This is some kind of newbie business I really fail to deal with very well. Ss 112 20:36, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Can you please indef block Westwoodtt2 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)? Given this user's activity on my talk page, this is probably the sock of a serious LTA vandal. Thanks. LightandDark2000 ( talk) 18:38, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick action. :) I left a couple of reports at WP:AVI on another recently-active LTA. Can you please give them a look? Thanks. LightandDark2000 ( talk) 18:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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Time to revoke their talkpage access. Thanks. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:FD84:CCD1:C7BC:1E17 ( talk) 05:34, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Persistent block evasion by 2001:8003:6F2D:C900:9CA7:4090:B128:ED7F ( talk · contribs). Perhaps all articles relating to characters from this show will need protection. Thank you, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 ( talk) 03:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
And perhaps you need to remind this user that you blocked me for THIRTY-ONE hours and THIRTY-ONE hours has passed. And point out to them that the only article relating to characters from this show I'm reverting is the one that a fan letter made notable enough-- 2001:8003:6F2D:C900:9CA7:4090:B128:ED7F ( talk) 03:25, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi, there. Hope it's okay if I come directly here. We've been dealing with an IP range that is persistently adding unsourced and biased content about the Asia version of Andi Mack since February 13. (The IP range starts with 180.) That IP range would later cause the article to become semi-protected twice, once on June 18 for one week and once on July 1 for one month. As you can see in the article history, almost immediately or shortly after, that IP range resumes its disruptive editing. Unfortunately, per this discussion, that IP range would be too large of a range to block as it would cause a lot of collateral damage. (Courtesy pings for MPFitz1968 and Geraldo Perez.) And so the only solution, really, is to either revert and block the individual IPs or revert and semi-protect the page. Because of the unblockable range, the latter is the better option here, but it's probably going to take quite a lengthy semi-protection to drive them away. Thanks for your time! Amaury ( talk | contribs) 16:19, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
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An ip user previously blocked by you here [46] is active again and is also doing disruptive edits and personal attacks here [47]. Can you please impose a block again? Thanking you in anticipation.- Kishfan ( talk) 13:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
On this topic AO, an IP user still blocked for adding unsourced personnel sections to country album articles on 74.99.150.2 is back using 98.117.10.121 doing exactly the same thing. Ss 112 17:47, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, looks like the vandals moved from Zara Larsson discography to now Charli XCX discography and Jess Glynne discography (the protection of which recently expired after what is probably the same IP did this last year). Can you maybe protect these pages? Thanks. Ss 112 20:53, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi AO. The user Adamklein84 has been editing Wikipedia for several years, oftentimes with the edit summary that their major removals are "minor edits by [act's] management". They have now done so at Bananarama, Alison Goldfrapp and most recently, Claire Richards. It is troubling they've gone this long without being warned about WP:COI (which I have just done) and seem to think removing between 2,000 and 4,000 bytes of information is in any way a minor edit. Do you think this user can edit constructively or that they're purely promotional and should be blocked? Ss 112 17:49, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi AO, there's been a user, Before the Storm, making contentious edits to Miley Cyrus edits for a few weeks now. They were blocked by Black Kite for disruptive editing two weeks ago after being reverted by three users (including myself) over and over across various pages, and in the past two days they've gone back to doing much the same thing. I've just reported them at ANV again but I'm getting the feeling this would not be the first instance of this if I went back through the histories of the articles they've been editing, and that this kind of persistence around one singer's articles is sockpuppet behaviour. Can you maybe drop a line to Bbb23 and ask if they have some time to check? Thanks. Ss 112 18:14, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
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Do you remember that editor who keep changing the date ranges of album articles? Well it appears that the editor is back again with a new IP 2601:240:CF80:2F61:83D:D572:EB53:D5A4. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 01:39, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, hope you're enjoying your vacation. Tried ANV, but it was removed by Materialscientist as being "unactionable". I suppose it isn't urgent anyway. BlaccCrab's back using 96.244.213.210—editing hip hop articles, still concerned with what is/isn't a single. Just from their edit summaries alone, it's quite easy to tell. But failing that, the IP geolocates to Maryland, where BlaccCrab previously had on their userpage they were from. Ss 112 04:51, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Although I don't know how much info was recorded, the Black Gold Stakes race should never have been deleted. Please undelete and I will take care of it. To help you understand, this race has been run for the past sixty years and is an important part of the Fair Grounds Race Course stakes program. All races properly done at Wikipedia should contain the winner's name, jockey, trainer, owner, time, purse, historical info and more. All of these can interconnect, either now or later at Wikipedia, to multiple things in multiple articles in the United States and even to Europe, Japan and Hong Kong. I'm sure there are times when a horse race should be deleted. However, I think there needs to be a way that any question about horse related articles should simply be posted to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse racing where someone with knowledge on the subject can examine it and respond. Thanks for your help. Stretchrunner ( talk) 12:09, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the info. Stretchrunner ( talk) 11:34, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
I am leaving. An email has been sent if you wish to remain in contact. It was good to contribute a bit of knowledge to Wikipedia, and despite the ugly blocks and warnings on my talk page I did write a few things myself. Happy to translate the Austrian, French, and Portuguese pelates. Good to have the commanders of the Bastille and Garde du Corps published. Sadly, I left my planters in shambles. Hopefully someone can pick-up where I left off. :) Au revoir! – Conservatrix ( talk) 17:33, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
It was perfectly fine where it was and was not any kind of issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BandGoBlue2020 ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Everything is perfectly reliable. There was a setlist and Dates were sourced reliably. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BandGoBlue2020 ( talk • contribs) 02:34, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
I am told "Your feelings about how Prager expresses himself have no place here. Please stop giving your personal opinions." Is this a violation of WP:BLP policy? Is it a violation of some other policy? I was under the impression that Talk pages allowed for some latitude of discussion for possible changes/improvements. You even wrote "Editors need to be able to discuss controversial topics relating to BLP subjects and the article talk page is normally where that occurs." [49] Where does that fine line get drawn between excessive discussion and necessary discussion? Thanks. Bus stop ( talk) 18:37, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
"controversial aspects of a BLP subject"and you refer to
"questions about the article and how it addresses controversial topics". When you say "controversy", what are you referring to? Please be specific—what is the "controversy"? Bus stop ( talk) 19:37, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem! Regarding your block here, it's clearly the same LTA as you blocked here. You mentioned "disruptive editing" as the reason for the new block, I just wasn't sure whether your remembered which LTA case the IP is connected to. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:38, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Alas, seems to think that calling me "extreme right wing" is not a "Personal Attack" and his original "anti-Semitic" words were not a personal attack either. I fear that he is quite likely to continue in this vein. I am especially amused by:
Collect ( talk) 13:19, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Continued personal attacks, this time at you. Please block and remove TPA. Thanx - FlightTime ( open channel) 18:08, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
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.Can you please see the above? There is no way for me to deal with this editor. This is supposed to involve collaborative editing in a WP:CIVIL environment? It is impossible. Every move I make results in a litigious response. See my Talk page: Misrepresenting other people, Edit war warning, Notice of discretionary sanctions, and Note - violating BLP and asking others to. Bus stop ( talk) 00:03, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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You added a warning to a user about his changes at Glima. He keeps adding uncited information anyway.-- Óli Gneisti ( talk) 10:47, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Your name was found on Feedback request service Politics, government, and law. Please join the discussion here and give your needed opinion on whether to include China's position concerning Hamas. Thanks! Veritycheck✔️ ( talk) 16:29, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Despite your talk page messages, looks like CrunchyCookie is now reverting everything, even edits that don't have anything to do with what they wanted to do on Muse discography: 1, 2, 3. I don't think they understand or are even willing to understand the basics of WP:BRD, WP:CONSENSUS—or even sourcing their edits. Maybe it requires you to intervene further, because I'm sure they're arrogant enough to continue reverting... Ss 112 09:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I think you left out a /64 there, yes? Suffusion of Yellow ( talk) 02:27, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
User keeps editing several articles disruptively. Is it time for a new block? SLBedit ( talk) 20:09, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
You have blocked this IP in the past for adding unsourced content in articles. The editor is still doing the same thing again recently [50]. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 14:36, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
On 19 September 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Tommy Best, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer T• C 00:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
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Disruptively editing at Beyoncé discography, here, adding original research, which you specifically warned them about since December last year. It's coming up on a year later and they're still attempting to add the same thing despite the message that was on the article, despite their blocks for similar behaviour, etc. Ss 112 01:45, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, pretty sure the user BardiCardi is a sock, probably of MariaJaydHicky. Literally their second edit was a revert of an IP for genre warring and they've been reverting such things since. Can you maybe ask Bbb23 to take a look? Thanks. Ss 112 05:59, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Seriously. For restoring some of my faith back into the admin corps. Cheers - wolf 21:46, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I've left a message on Talk:Titanic II regarding Palmer's latest announcement on the project. Blue Riband► 11:56, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
Shredded77 ( talk · contribs) This editor keeps adding poorly sourced content in the Astroworld article [51] [52] [53]. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 18:08, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
I did some looking through pages frequented by My Royal Young, and found this IP making edits in a pattern that suggests it would be him/her. The editing history isn't enough for a block (yet), but I thought I would point it out since this IP range is not on Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/My Royal Young. Morphdog talk 02:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick and logical help with that outbreak of silliness. I hope that they'll calm down a bit now, maybe. Best wishes DBaK ( talk) 20:41, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem,
I'm inviting admins to join our team at parli.co providing advice on how to build and manage a collaborative website. Parli.co is an emerging project aiming at building a sort of Wikipedia of arguments around controversial topics (more info here). Part of our budget will be destined to such consultancy work, and we think we could benefit from the experience of Wikipedia janitors and admins. Feel free to message me back with interest and questions. -- isacdaavid 22:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
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There is an editor named Aitch & Aitch Aitch who been making bold edits in articles. For example, in ? the editor add unsourced genres [56] and have been reverted by Theo Mandela and Binksternet [57] [58], and been warned by Binksternet for starting an edit war, after that warning the editor restore it again [59]. This happened in several other articles, most notably in Flower Boy [60] [61] and Atrocity Exhibition [62] [63]. Keep in mind this editor have been warned multiple times by other editors. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 17:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
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I assume you'll revdel their edits, too? Also, there is at least one more of the bird boys down the page history. Not concerned abiab the content re: revdel ( been called much worse), it's the edit summaries. John from Idegon ( talk) 04:31, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO. The editor "EditorE" was blocked indefinitely early last month for their OTT "insults" directed at me, which I told you about via email until they were blocked after a thread opened at ANI before you saw it. I've caught them using 108.17.12.203. Exactly the same topics and types of edits: EditorE refused to use cite web templates and always spaced their references like this. They were making almost exclusively chart-related edits until their account was blocked, and that's primarily what this editor is focusing on. I've reverted the majority of their remaining edits. It's also no surprise they began editing using this IP straight after they were blocked on EditorE. I'll report them back to you if they come back using another. Ss 112 05:42, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem You wrote:You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at History of the Catholic Church.
Please explain to me how I am disrupting Wikipedia? You then wrote: Switching IP addresses will not prevent measures from being taken to stop POV editing. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I haven't the slightest idea on how to switch my IP address.
You then wrote: If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
I am not sure what a shared IP address is. I did note make the edits today. I am waiting until Tuesday to edit in order to prevent being silenced because of WP:EDITWAR. I would prefer to remain anonymous
Respectfully, I am only trying to maintain the dignity, credibility, and integrity of Wikipedia. I trust that you and I are pursuing this common goal. 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 01:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I believe I have reached consensus. Please see /info/en/?search=User_talk:Citizen_Canine
After I tirelessly walked Citizen Canine through the first two of my fifty citations, you will see that he writes, "Fine, if you believe the two statements "The history of the Catholic Church begins with Jesus Christ and his teachings (c. 4 BC – c. AD 30) and the Catholic Church is a continuation of the early Christian community established by Jesus." and "According to history, the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ." are supported as reliable assertions by ANY of the sources you cited, go ahead and make those changes again. I very much look forward to seeing how it goes down 😎 Citizen Canine (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2018 (UTC)."
And then, if you read: /info/en/?search=User_talk:72.208.204.252
You will see that Bennv3771 says, "Regardless, I'm not gonna edit war with you over this, so I'll leave your edit up and if it it reverted by someone else, please cite references that explicitly verify your claim. Bennv3771 (talk) 02:24, 20 September 2018 (UTC We then continue this dialogue here: /info/en/?search=Talk:History_of_the_Catholic_Church
Bennv3771 says, "I would support reverting back to the original wording as no WP:RS has been provided to verify this change. Glad you've started this discussion. Would be good to get consensus since the anonymous user is extremely insistent that their assertion remains. Bennv3771 (talk) 06:38, 22 September 2018 (UTC)"
I responded to Bennv3771 by reminding her that, "You were being dishonest when you made this statement. You know very well that I have provided over fifty citations on numerous occasions."
Bennv3771 then says, There is nothing to settle between us. I haven't edited this article in over 2 weeks. Other editors are repeatedly reverting your edits, although you keep singling me out for whatever reason. And no, these editors are not my "co-conspirators" according to the Websters definition, as we are not "acting in harmony". Those editors are all acting independently and apparently coming to the same conclusions. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort and right now the consensus is against your changes. You can start another discussion and try to get consensus for your changes. Bennv3771 (talk) 10:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)"
I then, painstakingly, and tirelessly, walk Bennv3771 through the first of fifty citations in order to help her to understand how these citations support my claim but to no avail because she had already conceded that, "I'll leave your edit up."
At the same time that I was in dialogue with Bennv3771, I took Bennv3771's advice, "You can start another discussion and try to get consensus for your changes" by attempting to start dialogues with Citizen Canine, JackintheBox, and Zenadix.
Please see: /info/en/?search=User_talk:Citizen_Canine, /info/en/?search=User_talk:JackintheBox, and /info/en/?search=User_talk:Zenadix
Careful review of these links will show that I attempted consensus with all three and only citizen canine responded.
Please note again that Citizen Canine conceded when he responded, ""Fine, if you believe the two statements "The history of the Catholic Church begins with Jesus Christ and his teachings (c. 4 BC – c. AD 30) and the Catholic Church is a continuation of the early Christian community established by Jesus." and "According to history, the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ." are supported as reliable assertions by ANY of the sources you cited, go ahead and make those changes again. I very much look forward to seeing how it goes down 😎 Citizen Canine (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2018 (UTC)."
I am willing to take the time to illustrate this change to anyone that questions it for the benefit of Wikipedia's dignity, credibility, and integrity.
According to the record, I have reached consensus with 2 out of the 4 editors who challenged my change.
The other 2 have yet to respond to my inquiry for consensus.
It is unclear; are you also challenging my change?
If so, I would like to also open dialogue with you in order to arrive at consensus.
Please inform me on how we are to proceed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 01:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC) 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 01:53, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I apologize for indenting my paragraphs. I was doing this at the urging of Citizen Canine, "As an aside, in future please indent your paragraphs."
By now, it is probably obvious that I am an old-fashioned, computer-illiterate, two fingered typist, history buff who is working diligently to uphold the dignity, credibility, and integrity of Wikipedia.
Please excuse me for my lack of computer etiquette. I prefer books and I am surrounded by them.
You said, "My guess is that Citizen Canine was being somewhat satirical." Rather than, "guessing", I think we should just stick to the facts. The fact of the matter shows that citizen canine said, "Fine ...go ahead and make those changes again." Unfortunately, do to Wikipedia's WP:EDITWAR policy, I was unable to follow Citizen Canine's instruction and do as he had requested.
You also said, "This needs to be sorted out on the talk page of the article where everyone can join in the same discussion. And I very much doubt you have reached consensus."
I have already attempted this: /info/en/?search=Talk:History_of_the_Catholic_Church and I have demonstrated how 2 of the 4 editors have conceded and that the other 2 of the 4 editors failed to respond to my inquiry for consensus.
This brings us to the first point in your reply when you said, "I am acting here purely in my capacity as an administrator." If one was to carefully review my participation in the editing of Wikipedia's, "History of the Catholic Church" , they will not only see that I am doing my best to follow the guidelines established by Wikipedia, while being factual and transparent.
On the other hand, when reviewing your participation in the editing of Wikipedia's, "History of the Catholic Church" , it will be difficult to draw the conclusion that you are, "acting here purely in my capacity as an administrator."
Take for instance, the last few changes to this topic:
(cur | prev) 00:13, 8 October 2018 Ad Orientem (talk | contribs) . . (136,671 bytes) (+25) . . (Reverted to revision 862886815 by JackintheBox (talk): Rvt POV editing. (TW)) (Tag: Undo)
(cur | prev) 00:04, 8 October 2018 2600:1700:b7a0:3a90:7807:ea8d:3c08:ecb (talk) . . (136,646 bytes) (+9) (cur | prev) 23:32, 7 October 2018 2600:1011:b166:f60:d83d:1a2:7ac3:2d04 (talk) . . (136,637 bytes) (-34)
This shows that someone other than myself edited this passage and you in turn reverted it back without taking the time to thoroughly investigate it.
Instead, you accused me here: /info/en/?search=User_talk:72.208.204.252
by stating, " October 2018 Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at History of the Catholic Church. Switching IP addresses will not prevent measures from being taken to stop POV editing. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC)"
I believe that is incumbent upon you, in your capacity as an administrator, to fully investigate the entire issue by first reviewing all of the supporting documentation, prior to hurling accusations, threats, and arriving at far reaching conjectures.
I also believe that your actions fall under a cloud of impropriety:
1. When you failed to fully investigate the entire issue by first reviewing all of the supporting documentation 2. When you assumed that I covertly switched my IP address (to be honest, I had to look up what an IP address even was) and made a change to the article (I also did not know a change was even made) 3. When you took a "guess" at what Citizen Canine meant while disregarding what he actually said, "Fine ...go ahead and make those changes again." 4. When you ignored what Bennve3771 said, "Regardless.... I'll leave your edit up" and then later added in an effort to show her sincerity regarding this issue, "I haven't edited this article in over 2 weeks." 5. When you ignored the fact that the other 2 editors that challenged my change ignored my invitation to dialogue in order to reach consensus. 6. And in spite of the above mentioned, you disregarded over 50 citations that I had offered, accused me of edit warring, accused me of not proceeding to the article talk page in order to seek WP:CONSENSUSand finally, (and most insultingly) accused me of being disruptive
Is there a way to have the improper actions of an administrator be reviewed by maybe some other unbiased administrators? 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 03:25, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
At this point, I would like to respectfully request that you: 1. Admit your error, 2. Offer a meaningful apology to me and the million-users of Wikipedia, and 3. In light of all of the presented evidence allow the changes that I have made (at least until someone else challenges them). 72.208.204.252 ( talk) 03:35, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Within hours of the prior page block expiration, the IP vandal returned, they continue to use a dynamic. -- Green C 17:29, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Please see my message at Talk:Titanic_II#September_2018_Palmer_Announcement. Blue Riband► 15:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO. I just noticed that Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:DanTheMusicMan2 was closed five or so days ago but his user page was not actually deleted? His talk page was but his user page is very much still there with the 500KB of listcruft still on it... Ss 112 22:45, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Looks like Pennsylvania-located PeopleEater143 is back using 156.12.252.246, leaving their typical self-righteous edit summaries like "Where is your source for that? You can’t just say stuff and not include a source for it." A summary they've repeated about the place about 20 times in the past few months. Ss 112 11:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
The editor is still adding unsourced or poorly sourced content. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 19:03, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Hey, just emailed you about the deletion of my redirect.-- N Ø 05:06, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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Hey AO, there's a user by the name of LRLArch who's been edit warring to maintain their own version of various articles on-and-off for several years. Looks like they've gotten to thinking constant reverts are the way Wikipedia works, instead of WP:BRD. I've warned them on their talk page for their four reverts in one day (two separate times) on The 1975 discography, where a week ago, they ignored commented-out messages to discuss any changes to the content and instead changed it to their preferred version then edit warred with other editors (even reverting a bot) to keep it that way. I think it's gone far enough with them; can you have a word to them? I already have but, as you know, admins' words hold more weight than users'. If it continues I'll let you know. Ss 112 23:03, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Ad Orientem. Special:Contributions/24.73.197.194 – Carried our the same exact disruptive editing after a one-year block expired. Think this IP should be banned. -- Wikipedical ( talk) 18:01, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.-- Cahk ( talk) 18:33, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
After you blocked 108.17.12.203, he's back using 108.17.18.29 Very similar IP address...do you think a rangeblock is in order? They resumed editing about three days after you last blocked them; clearly persistent. Ss 112 12:29, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Looks like Chris Brown-loving sock Giubbotto non ortodosso (whose socks you've blocked several times) is back as HeartbreakOnAFullMoon (named after Brown's last album, a dead giveaway). Ss 112 06:44, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Break Through the Silence (EP) should've been deleted because it uses an incorrect disambiguator. It's a dual single not an EP, a more appropriate title would be Break Through the Silence (single). Flooded with them hundreds 05:30, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Howdy!, you added protection earlier today to an article I created upon request of another editor who was trying to help. Thank you, but I just tried to edit the article and it won't save my edits. Could you check into that when you have a second? The editor who refused to stop making unsourced edits was the target. I have a login and should be able to edit it, I have autoconfirmed and/or confirmed access, etc. I was hoping to be able to make some edits in peace for the two days you gave me. Thanks a bunch! dawnleelynn (talk) 03:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Using 156.12.253.148, a Pennsylvania-based IP that frequently edits on mobile (based on the location, this is consistent). Same attitude in their edit summaries, rhetorical questions and calls to "be consistent", and edit warring with an editor on Cody Simpson. They've used two 156.-range IPs on The Pains of Growing now and have been extensively editing Cody Simpson, so maybe those are in need of page protection to stop the socking temporarily? Ss 112 14:47, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
—— SerialNumber 54129 14:52, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
It seem like Tjdrum2000 is back again using another account and bring disruptive as usual [64] [65] [66] [67]. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 18:43, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
GAB gab 14:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, can you protect Dua Lipa discography? An IP that's changed a few times has been removing content since at least October 21 with no explanation given. They've been reverted by another editor and it's getting annoying to have to revert over and over. Thanks! Ss 112 15:33, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hello Ad Orientem. Both Jimmy everettt and Jimmy everetttt are CU-confirmed Nsmutte socks doing a joe-job on Jimmy everett who is not Nsmutte, so I'd like to ask you to revisit this block. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, looks like we have PeopleEater143 block evading using another Pennsylvania-based IP, 2600:387:3:801:0:0:0:A5 on Caution (Mariah Carey album). Characteristic snark and criticism of whoever wrote the article's grammar. Definitely them. Do you think the article warrants protection yet as a sock target? I understand if not, but I thought maybe it might warrant protection only for a short term. Ss 112 18:23, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO. There's an editor by the name of Wells.grace who has contributed substantitally to the article Shatta Wale. The article reads like one big puff piece and there's still quite a bit to bring it line with an encyclopedic tone and the Manual of Style, yet this editor feels slighted because they're a fan of the rapper (which explains the glowing tone of the article). I've warned them twice now for removing maintenance templates and they have removed them twice. Can you maybe drop them a line about it? This time I'm not even sure they'll listen to you—I just think they'll keep removing them until a final warning has to be given. Ss 112 18:56, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Just came across an editor by the name of Johannes275 who has this charming user page that reads like a load of vandalism garbage written by a hyperactive teenager. What's your take on it? Ss 112 18:56, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Johannes275 here. Very sorry, but that has been deleted. I apologize for any inconvenience. I am not a hyperactive teenager; I wish to contribute to Wikipedia as best I can. I do not tolerate vandalism, and I deeply regret having put that as my user page.
Would you be able to protect Caution (Mariah Carey album) and block 156.12.249.29? They've now claimed "I tried to put in an unblock request" on my talk page, although through what account I don't know. Still block evading; they were purely disruptive and edit warring in the past, there's no real coming back from that. Ss 112 19:49, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
There is an editor who is adding unsourced or poorly sourced content in articles [69] [70], the editor is also edit-warring in the Tragedy article [71] [72] [73]. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 15:36, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ad Orientem, i watch some high profile users' talk pages in order to revert vandalism or answer to some questions by newcomers/unexperienced users. Please let me know if you allow me to watch your talk for the above purposes. Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 21:44, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey AO, sorry for inundating you with messages today, but could you maybe look into protecting A Brief Inquiry into Online Relationships? Several IPs (including one persistent one) is editing against what sources say, refusing to explain their edits, and has been warned. It's an everyday occurrence. Ss 112 21:45, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Using 2600:387:3:801:0:0:0:B3. That's the exact same IP they used to evade a block in 2017—you can see they edited their old favourite target, List of 2017 albums and several albums in 2017 with their characteristic edit summaries and editing from mobile. They have edited Baby (Clean Bandit song) yet again (page protection needed?). There is no helping them—they are a lost cause. They will just do this over and over. Ss 112 23:34, 5 November 2018 (UTC)