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I have nominated Flexibility, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flexibility. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. dougweller ( talk) 11:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Are you sure champi means head? I would have to assume this word is related to shampoo and not to head. Also, Indian isn't a language; I assume you mean Hindi. Soap Talk/ Contributions 23:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I am unable to View my User Page. When I click on the link to it, it sends me to my Talk Page. Even when Im Logged Off, I am unable to View it. Why is it doing that and what can be done to fix that?-- Lolitologist ( talk) 15:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hi there. As a fellow WP:AVATAR member, can you please check out Talk:Aang#Hair color? NuclearWarfare ( Talk) 17:19, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
You were right about GOdF, I got them mixed up with Le Droit Humain who do admit women. Do you know if they could be incorporated into the Regular Masonic jurisdictions article? I think they branched off from GOdF. To me, admitting women is as significant step as admitting other races/atheists. Now, in terms of the OES, I am a bit confused, because if the UGLE does not approve of it, how come it is recommended by and associated with some lodges who still receive approval from the UGLE? Tyciol ( talk) 03:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi there, Tyciol! Answering your question. Here's some info in Russian about Kovalyov the Justice Minister [1]. He was in the Chernomyrdin cabinet and became "famous" for the sauna incident (he was caught on tape with three prostitutes in a sauna). As far as Kovalyov the USSR Hero is concerned, here's an article about him in Russian, as well [2]. The guy set 22 world records (!) on Tupolev Tu-104. I don't expect you to be able to read Russian, but please do not delete the entries on these gentlemen. If I have time, I'll write articles on both of them. Thanks for pointing this out, though, and happy editing! KNewman ( talk) 06:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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Thank you for your kind words, I look forward to working with you. Ikip ( talk) 17:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't really have the time to babysit this article, if you do, please reverse any anonymous edits which don't make sense on the U.S. section. Also check my latest edits and discussion. I don't really feel like putting any more work into this because it is pretty much all explained in the article on obscenity. (As far as the legality of such things in the U.S. goes this article might as well redirect there.) Nope01 ( talk) 13:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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What was your reasoning for creating this redirect? Another user has nominated it for deletion, which I support. Thanks, Mike R ( talk) 17:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Tyciol, about a month ago you posted a question about UGLE's attitued towards OES on Vidkun's talk page. I just noticed it, and thought I would give you a more complete answer.
Approval/disapproval of OES is a jurisdictional thing. Remember that each Masonic Jurisdiction is independant of the others. While UGLE is respected and influential, it does not set the rules for other jurisdictions. OES is predominantly a US phenomina, and is very popular in those jurisdictions. If UGLE were to make a big deal of their disapproval, they would quickly face strong opposition by all 51 US Grand Lodges. UGLE may disapprove of OES, but it does not feel so opposed that it would risk a schism over it.
That said... There is an important difference between OES and Le Droit Humain (and other forms of Female Freemasonry). OES is not the same as female Freemasonry... it is a completely seperate organization that US Freemasonry supports. OES has different rituals, and the women who belong to OES do not call themselves Freemasons. Le Droit Humain and similar bodies, on the other hand, do use the same rituals as male Freemasonry and do claim to be Freemasons. Hope this clarifies things for you. Blueboar ( talk) 16:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, Tyciol. The deletion that you pointed to was only a deletion of sources. The sources were being used improperly (to support the assertion that "pro pedophile activism" is only done by "pedophiles" - something apparently disproven by the article itself), so I struck all of them. You should feel free to dig through the sources and see if there is any valid use, though. EmilianaMartín ( talk) 15:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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Sorry for the late response. I'm going to wait until the comic comes out before I write a good history of it. Then add on with each issue. Personally, I don't think they should screw with Lep's character like that, especially giving him a name (Lubdan? Come on.) But I will do my very best to add onto his legacy, no matter how bizarre it gets. Like it's not already weird enough. *lol* LepFan13 ( talk) 02:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
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Un you said that me adding "Underaged" as a requirement for Lolicon was based on Artistic Appearances and Neoteny"? Um...Lolicon is mostly Underaged Characters. I mean what adult looks like a child, wears child cloths, and acts like a child?! Unless the Character has Turner Syndrome then COmmon Sence and Logicital Reasoning can only lead one to say that the character is a child. I mean its not fair really to mislead people. I've seen a LOT of Lolicon. The Characters are underaged. So...-- Akemi Loli Mokoto ( talk) 19:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
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Tyciol, I must insist that you stop refactoring talk pages as you add your comments to them, such as you did with Touch and [4]. This is entirely unnecessary and makes it difficult to see what comments you did leave. -- Farix ( Talk) 11:35, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi--I've noticed that you're creating lots of disambiguation pages lately, and adding people with Japanese names to them; e.g., "Katsuo" and "Tanabe". I'd like to request that you take a look at MOS:DABNAME. In general, partial name matches are not considered to be appropriate entries for disambiguation pages; if you take a look at the Smith disambiguation page, for example, there are no people with the surname on that page. In at least a few cases, you've also added people when the previous redirect to something like a major city would otherwise be considered the primary topic of the search term. For example, Takamatsu, Kagawa is the capital of Kagawa Prefecture and has a population of over 400,000, making it the primary topic of the search term "Takamatsu" over Takamatsu Shinji, who doesn't merit his own article at the moment (although I like Gintama). Please keep these things in mind when creating new disambiguation pages in the future. Thank you! Dekimasu よ! 12:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I saw that a month back you began taking red linked names (actors, voice actors, etc.) and began turning them into redirects for whatever particular television series you found that they were a part of. This is not helpful. I went to look up the actress Rin Asuka and found that you had made a redirect to List of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni characters because she was in that show. It is better to have red links than redirects that are not helpful.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 03:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Tyciol, please please don't make any more of these "Huh???" redirects. On Runaway Horses about half of the links are now circular! Please leave the valid red links alone! Xanthoxyl ( talk) 23:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, again. I just found several more redirects you had made before I had contacted you initially.
Let me be frank, do not make redirects to cast lists or character lists again for real people. I'm getting a bunch of these deleted because they really serve no purpose and red links are much better. I have seen that you are continuing to do this when red links may actually convince people to write the real articles. I don't want to discuss this with you, again, so this is my last message to you unless I come across more redirects you have made.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 07:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm not going to bother reading through the four paragraphs you sent me. I'll say this: your redirect creation was bad and it has been determined by administrators and other members of the community that it was bad. You took common Japanese names like Masayuki or Kotaro and made redirects or disambiguation pages solely dedicated to the fictional characters and then you took random combinations of English names and made redirects. Red links are much more effective which is what I told you last time, because it does not matter if an article is made or not. THERE IS NO NEED FOR ALL OF THE REDIRECTS YOU MADE. I don't care if there are or are not articles on these people on either this or the Japanese Wikipedia. There is no need to take their given name and surname or their full name and redirect it to a tangentially useful article. If living people exist, and we have no article on them, then we have no page on them, which includes not having a redirect. When they become notable or someone else comes across the red link, an article can be created.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 04:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Yuchun is an example of one of your bad redirects. "Yuchun" is a given name in China, and I can find multiple people listed on Wikipedia who have this name. That is why it should not be a redirect to Li Yuchun. It is equivalent to taking Michael and making it a redirect to Michael Jackson or Takeru and making it a redirect to Takeru "T.K." Takaishi. And there are other examples I could find, like your mashing together of names for other redirects.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 06:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Let me say it plainly. A supermajority of the redirects you have made are implausible names, not typos, and have nothing to do with the pages to which these are redirected. All of them should be deleted. Do not make redirects for anything other than fictional characters to the lists of fictional characters. Portmanteaus are useless and making redirects for real people to people who they are not or films in which they starred are not helpful. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not a search engine for you to fine tune. I do not want a two paragraph reply to this.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 06:42, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Would you stop? No one is going to be looking up " Elton Hercules", " David Charles Cunningham", " Ishii Leslie", or " Tsunehiko Kamijo".— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 14:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
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I completely disagree with you. We have the Atushi dab page so anyone looking for her will find that in the search box, or they will use google. If and when there is sufficient sourcing to make an article about her then that will be created. Redirecting a person to a small portion of their work seems illogical to me and I agree with the criteria that it was speedy deleted under. Regards, Woody ( talk) 13:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
I'll be quite clear about this. Some of your redirects are fine, some are debatable (and those can be discussed) - ones like this are utterly useless. Here's a Google search for "Elton Hercules" without his surname - no results at all. It looks like you're unaware how Western-style names and honorifics are used. You are making work for other users who have better things to do, and I would have thought, given the number of users who have expressed similar opinions here and on AN/I, that you would know better than to immediately recreate these. So - if you start re-creating more obviously pointless redirects like Elton Hercules, I will block you for disruption. Black Kite 14:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Tyciol, I am sorry that you have taken offence, but there is no-one on the PLANET who would search for Elton Hercules when looking for Elton John, and given that you put a hatnote on Sir Hercules - which is a racehorse - on the assumption that someone somewhere might search for Elton John by looking for Sir Hercules, then I can only suggest that your grasp of English naming conventions is not as sound as you think it is. And don't stalk me either - if you have something to say to me, say it on my talkpage Elen of the Roads ( talk) 08:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
ALSO, redirecting Sir John to Elton John is totally illogical. True, Elton John has been called Sir John, but so has Sir John Gielgud (stage actor) Sir John Barbirolli (conductor) Sir John Harvey-Jones (industrialist) John de Balliol (Scottish King) Sir John Betjeman (poet) Sir John Mills (film actor) Sir John Major (prime minister) Sir John Fastolf (Falstaff) Sir John Falstaff (Shakespearian character) Sir John Hawkins (admiral, one of Elizabeth I's seahawks) Sir John Herschel (astronomer)....and so it goes for 53970 returns for Sir John in the search. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 14:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Do not refactor talk pages or entire pages as you've done at Talk:United States and stop making redirects. You've been warned about this multiple times over the past five days. If you do not get why we have an issue, that certainly does not mean you should continue acting in the way you had.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 12:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, you do not edit the archives to get your last word in.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 12:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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Having read through all of this page, all of the WP:AN/I thread and a good percentage of your edits, it is quite clear that the block is absolutely not unjustified. And until you accept that this is so, and agree to modify your behaviour in accordance with comments made about your redirect and disambig technique, there is little chance of an unblock. -- Anthony.bradbury "talk" 19:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
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I was warned that I was being disruptive: but I disagreed with that, and I still do. Creating good redirects is not disruptive. No adequate reasons are given (nor thoroughly discussed) for the deletion of many redirects. Elton Hercules in particular, I recreated and listed on RfD (see here because it was never given a chance for discussion. Too much good faith is being put into the actions of speedy deletion taggers, and too little faith in the creators of redirects. I can see that User:Redvers deleted that simply with the same speedy deletion tag. Once again: no actual investigation (or at least, explanation of it) is presented, simply citing the standard reason associated with a tag, even though it is not at all applicable. I clearly proved the plausibility of the disambiguatory redirect through posting a URL on the above RfD.
I do not understand how 'the number of edits' is reason for blocking. Furthermore, when you link to Ryulong's list: did you check the dates when they were made? The first one ( Urine Therapy) was made in 2005, so I am not sure how going back 4 years in time is good for making a case for 'speed'. That's clearly a good redirect, as you can see someone even tagged it as a redirect which disambiguates capitalization here. I made it because there are references to it which are capitalized.
Should I go on and explain each one? I think this should be evidence enough: that list is not appropriate in the slightest for making a case against me: most likely Ryulong just pasted every redirect of mine in there and assumed it was bad. This is incredibly clear to me: his list even includes entries like Lubdan which he has posted his ridiculous speedy deletion tags on and had administrators remove them. I could search through that list and point out probably at least a dozen which admins have turned down for speedy deletion. Why on earth would the total number of my redirects matter? What should matter are the contested redirects, so until someone can make a list of those so that I can actually confront them, I don't see how I am supposed to contest these accusations.
So: what am I supposed to learn from this list? I am aware I've made a lot of redirects, but I believe the great majority are useful. It's possibly I've made some mistakes but I consider myself a well-intentioned editor with some degree of competancy. It is true that I have been making increasing amounts of them, this is mainly as I grow to understand more about disambiguation and redirecting, and how I become more imaginative in predicting the various mistakes and ommissions that people can make.
I do have understanding of redirect policy. I have had disagreement over some concepts: but these are different issues. I would prefer if these were discussed distinctly: as in, rather than a huge list of 'bad' redirects, objectors can divide them into which specific objections they have. From what I recall: there's the family name issue (other people have it, should be disambig instead of redirect to single person), and then there's the issue over the use of subsequent names which nobody else shares (EH as above), which are unique to a person but someone says 'nobody would ever type it' therefore it's somehow disruptive? That, despite my having made a case for forenames being good disambiguation and giving a reference.
I would appreciate it if people would actually discuss these issues and clarify what I'm to understand: I have not been ignoring the objections, however I am I supposed to understand that I should back down from discussing an important issue? I do have some level of understanding of the issue (I have highlighted 2 of the objections, which I have understood). Before I agree to change my behaviour: I want to make sure I am not overlooking any other issues. I still want to discuss them, but this concept of 'implausibility' is something which I think needs expansion. Where do these views get heard? I am fine with agreeing to avoid doing them, but I think if editing is this restricted then Wikipedia policy should reflect it.
In the very least, Wikipedia policy currently does NOT reflect on not being able to redirect name fragments. Another editor agreed (and was ignored): redirects are cheap. There aren't any other Elton Herculeses. Elen completed ignored the URL given in her reply. Jeni made no reply at all, simply mirroring the 'implausible' which people are tagging: replies like that are utterly useless to informing editors. Xanthoxyl had already targeted these before and made an inapt comparison: there are other Martin Luthers, there aren't any other known Elton Herculeses, therefore the comparison was misleading and not an argument at all. I do think the editors have a point about researching family names: I should look more into last names and stuff like 'Sir John' as she's suggested, that's something I'll try to make an effort on in the future.
I sort of get into a bit of a vibe when I look up theoretical disambiguations that even with something obvious like Sir John (John's a common english name) I didn't even think to look for others. I believe I ran through the knights of the round table and didn't remember any Johns so I thought it would be fine (editing on a low sleep can create illogical leaps like that). So: if allowed to edit I will try to edit in a clearer state of mind where I am more likely to notice mistakes like that, and spend some more time concentrating on redirects to consider whether or not (via using the search function) a disambiguation would be more appropriate to create.
That said: I can't claim that disambiguation pages will be perfect from the start. Not every person in the world is easily found via the search. However, getting one started with the first page or two of information is good, right? Then people can add other Sir Johns (or what not) as they learn of them. In some cases articles about people are created after disambugiation pages for their family name so ongoing maintenance of disambigs is inevitable. Tyciol ( talk) 12:51, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
From WP:DISAMBIG "Preparation: Before constructing a new disambiguation page, determine a specific topic name for all existing pages, and the name for the disambiguation page. Move any page with a conflicting title (i.e., the same exact title) to its more specific name. Use the What links here list for the moved page to update pages that link to that page." Elen of the Roads ( talk) 13:22, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, re Elton Hercules, the URL of that page is Elton Hercules (né Reginald Kenneth Dwight) JOHN.aspx ie his full current name plus his birth name. You don't seem to have realised that it is not referring to him as "Elton Hercules". Elen of the Roads ( talk) 14:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I got a bit of a tendency to ramble, so I'll be more concise: I would like to be unblocked so I can go back and correct some mistakes. Basically, I went through Ryu's list and found the red links. I don't intend to create all of them: rather, I'm going to try and figure out which are plausibly useful (such as creating disambiguation pages through the use of the search engine for family names that could refer to multiple people) and put some work into doing some edits of higher quality. As for the rest: I'll maintain it and section it into the various problem areas which have been identified (implausible redirects based on portmanteaus, the omission of periods, some of which I think are strongly likely and others which I admit, do not seem as likely at second glance). One thing I am wondering: to get a fresh start and put this behind me and make it easier for people to follow new work, would it be possible to start a second account? I'm not interested in evading a ban or sock-puppeting, but rather as per WP:MULTIPLE listing the association on both because I have a good reason of wanting to turn over a new leaf and make edits of lower quantity and higher quality. This has built up bad blood and I'm wondering if I could have a new start with User:Ty or something like that. This would minimize the difficulty of people who want to monitor new edits for quality and stuff. Tyciol ( talk) 14:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
In your own words, from a deleted edit at Talk:Elton Hercules:
Clearly you knew these redirects were considered disruptive, clearly you knew you were likely to be blocked if you continued making them. You did continue, and you were blocked... now you act surprised? I don't understand. What exactly did you think was going to happen, here? That repeating problem behavior would suddenly make others more amenable? Why not use a more appropriate forum, like Wikipedia:Deletion review? Why not employ dispute resolution to build consensus for your position? It's not so much what you're doing, but how you go about it that led to a block here, I think. – Luna Santin ( talk) 17:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay I'll do this in a new section.
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Some good reasons were explained to me on alternate ways besides recreating redirects for RFD discussion (such as deletion review). The 'unjustified' was more in response to the reasons posted for the block. Basically: making a lot of edits is not justification, but the objections to my creation of redirects in lieu of spending time on disambig was justified, so I would like to continue editing and this time be more thorough in using search first, especially for the last names of real people which are likely to have matches. As for partial names, I will avoid making those unless someone is clearly referred to as that, and continue discussing that in policy talk pages and attempt to form some consensus to confront objectors with, rather than making it a namespace issue. Basically changing from not necessary to no longer necessary as I do understand what's being asked, I just wanted clarification on the specific points of the ban because I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something (vague ban description). I should not: disambig family names instead of red, don't red partials, don't red portmanteaus, don't direct actors to pages unless their name is confirmed not to show up anywhere else on wiki (and even then avoid circulars by removing original link), to not put year categories on talk pages, to not continue incident report discussions after archived (I guess start new one instead), and to not indent OP's replies on talk pages and allow the back'n forth thing. I would like to post Mark-swoggle for deletion review though, it doesn't fit any of these already had 3 editors confirm this and add it to the page.
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Still waiting for you to give a proper response to User:Dougweller's comment above. Extremely long responses give me the impression that you don't really intend to respond. You should be aware that you are running out of chances, if you don't have the intention to give a real answer soon. Your talk page may be locked due to the lack of any sincere effort to comply with our policies. Your redirects seemed nonsensical to many people, and you don't seem to realize that. If you would promise to stop creating redirects, you might be unblocked. EdJohnston ( talk) 03:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
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What sort of response would be proper? I thought this second one was. I identified as many objections as I could remember. I don't even know which the mod agrees with and which he disagrees with. How does writing a long response mean I don't intend to respond? I am being sincere, I'm sorry you don't recognize that.
I am already aware the redirects seem nonsensical (I do realize that, despite what you say) but many I have made do NOT seem nonsensical to mods who have saved them, do you want me to post a list?. I am fine promising to stop making them for a period of time, like the one week I was initially banned for, for example. If you would suggest a period of time, that's cool, but I won't leave it open-ended as that implies forever.
I don't think it's fair to ban me from forever making them when I do make good ones and understand what I did wrong in the bad ones. If I am making these unblock appeals too rapidly then I'll slow down, I'm totally fine just talking to the people so far until I come into an udnerstanding, it's just I'm not sure whether or not people read replies here since it doesn't pop up. Tyciol ( talk) 20:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
For example: something I want to do now but can't which I think would be decent. Before I might have just redirected Szatkowski to Rob Van Dam. But even though it looks a rare name and I'd figure he's the only notable one with it, I use search and see besides him there's also a Henry, Henryk, Zygmunt, Charmayne, Deryck, Stanislaw, etc. so I would begin a disambiguation page for Szatkowski with a reasonable number of notable people found via search. This is what I have learned from Ryulong (and the same for first names). Doing this for a while is something I could do even while being restricted from redirects to show good intent here. As for a valid redirect, I think RvD to Ryan vs. Dorkman makes sense. As for a valid hatnote, putting one on RVD for RvD and also RV-D may be useful. Thoughts? Tyciol ( talk) 04:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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I eventually plan to make a third appeal, but am seeking advice from the dispute resolution committee on how to word it, so I will not post the tag here yet for fear of talk page locking. This is a placeholder for the moment, if anyone has any advice on what issues I did not cover in the original block, that would be helpful. Summarizing this is useful as it is not clearly and shortly stated the issues. Tyciol ( talk) 05:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't check my Wikipedia much, and I don't quite recall making the redirect to Barack Obama. Probably came in the stage of my life when I was against Obama, then I kind of liked him, and now he's just straight disappointing. I really get irritated when people tag my work for speedy deletion, so please try to refrain from tagging the page. No one else has brought it up to an issue, and I don't think anyone cares ever since the election is over.
I'm pretty sure I've heard the name "Barack Hussein" used on Fox News here and there, but I'm more of a BBC guy even though I live in the United States. Nice talking with you. Chinese3126 ( talk) 22:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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There seem to be at least 2 alternative spellings for this family name. Various people seem to have it. I am not sure which would be proper to go with (maybe the 'e' since that o is hard to write) but it would probably make a valuable disambiguation page. I've been looking at various people with articles using the search function and would like to list them on such a page to help people who hear the name and may be looking for information about someone with that name but may have difficulty navigating the search pages for it. The reason for this is many articles mention the name, but on articles not about people with the name, such as actresses who have portrayed Juliane in movies, for example. Tyciol ( talk) 15:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations on your unblock. Welcome back to editing. As with Black Kite, I recommend working on articles or identifying dabs. Creating redirects as the first step to articles isn't really the way to go I think. Feel free to run any suggestion past me - as you know, I'm horribly negative and will probably tell you not to do it, but I'm not always right, and discussion helps to clarify things on all sides. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:49, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Koihime -> Koihime Muso = OK. Chocosis -> Chocotto Sister = OK. Don't create the "Chokosis" one though, that seems like a very unlikely search term. Black Kite 23:02, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Unit Zappa is like Elton Hercules - it's too unlikely a search term (sorry, I was posting something else on BK's talk page and couldn't help noticing) -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 00:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Gee this is cool. I guess I should respond on BK's page, just to close the loop :). Anyway, the problem with creating a redirect Fate/ is that it's implausible again. In English, if you have that construction of name series/book, you wouldn't type the / in when searching for the name of the series. For instance, I wouldn't search for "Black Dagger Brotherhood/". It makes no sense, so there's no point in a redirect. An entry on a dab page perhaps. -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 01:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and please don't refactor comments as you did to me above. You'll do it to the wrong person and they'll get mad, and you'll find yourself blocked again. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 01:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. Still, the only reason I questioned the speedy deletion was because the redirects weren't recently created. I have no doubt that they should be deleted as unlikely search terms. Yes, Saturday means "day of Saturn", but it's pretty far-fetched to think that readers are going to search for "day of Saturn" when they want to find information on Saturday. Regards, Jafeluv ( talk) 05:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll tell you why. Adrena is an uncommon first name, nobody is going to search for just that first name in order to find a list of minor characters in a television show. Higurei was one of many ridiculous neologism portmanteaus that you created that nobody in their right mind would ever search for. Now I'd appreciate it if you didn't critique every deletion, sorting through that list was one of the most boring things I've ever had to do here and would rather not have to keep explaining myself. — Xezbeth ( talk) 06:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
"Adrena" is a company which makes navigation software for yachts. It's also a rare first name for girls. Neither topic is intrinsically suitable for an article and should be left to Google. And the redirect you made went to a one-episode villain in a cartoon. Even if it went to a notable real person, it would not be okay unless the person were usually referred to by first name only. No more #Rs, no more dabs, no more refactoring and monkeying with talk-pages. How hard can this be? Xanthoxyl ( talk) 02:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I do not want to read essays by you. If you want to talk to me on my talk page do so in four sentence blocks.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 07:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Better, but I don't need the original content.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 07:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
So I come back today, and you've created redirects without running them past me ( Chokotto), added non-notable things to dab pages ( Run-up) and pestered people to restore non-notable redirects. Let's me clear about this, if any of those things happen again, I'll restore the block, and there won't be another chance. Black Kite 17:52, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
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Note I have responded. I find none of your arguments satisfactory - you still do not understand that a redlink is a valid thing, and your grasp of english at depth is not as good as your use of english in conversation, meaning that you are frequently not understanding that phrases have wider or older meanings. However, do continue the discussion if you wish. -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 08:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
However, having said that, I do feel that your ideal of entering into discussion on the talk page of the redirects guideline is a sound one. I wouldn't try rewriting the guideline, but starting a discussion would certainly not be inappropriate. -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:22, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm only gone to say this once. Do not refactor talk pages again as you did here. [9] There is absolutely not consensus that your refactoring is beneficial and you have been told repeatedly by several editors to knock it off. If you continue, I will bring it up with WP:ANI again. --— Farix ( t | c) 21:45, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
When, you were originally told to not refactor pages, you were directed to WP:TALK, specifically the section about editing other editors comments, which only gives very limited cases where such edits are acceptable. You even brought the topic up there, but the condenses was that your refactoring was no helpful, was entirely inappropriate, and even disruptive. Yet, despite condenses against your refactoring, you continue to do it. It was this same problematic behavior, but regarding redirects, where you didn't listen to the consensus of other editors that got you blocked in the first place. Apparently, you haven't learned from your mistakes. YOU SIMPLY CANNOT IGNORE CONSENSUS. — Farix ( t | c) 00:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
In short, STOP before you end up back at ANI. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 11:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I redirected
Runup
RunUp to
Run-up because it's a plausible typo - someone wanting the
Run-up article might well leave the hyphen out - not because it was the name of the company. If the company isn't notable enough to have an article, it shouldn' be in the dab.
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Perhaps I didn't make it very clear actually; the point is that if Runup is pointed towards Run-up - which it is - then RunUp needs to be as well, you can't have different capitalisations pointing to different places. Black Kite 18:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
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Tyciol, you have just refactored Talk:Crispin Glover, including restoring a section from 2004 that had been deleted IN 2005, and quite gratuitously correcting some poor soul's punctuation to no valid end. What is your problem? What part of the word STOP are you failing to understand here? -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 15:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
As to Frank Harris, User:Boleyn2 was referring to WP:PIPING (some sections of MOS have a redirect on MOS but I don't think this one does, and I don't know why he used AB). As I note from the responses you have received on WT:WPDIS, I was correct and the entry was wrong. I have therefore reverted it again. Sorry -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
As I have said previously, if you alter someone's spelling, grammar or punctuation in a comment on a text page, all you do is piss them off - like you have pissed me off. Also, let me introduce you to the Rhetorical question. I don't expect answers to questions of the "why do you keep doing this" type, therefore they do not require a question mark. -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 17:36, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
..if you're interested. I nominated Day of Saturn at RfD [10], and a couple of astrologers have pointed out that it should redirect to Planetary hours. And moreover, there are a whole set of Day of Planet X and Hour of Planet X redirects that should point there as well. What do you say? -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
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If you read Planetary hours you can see quite clearly where all the Day of Planet X and Hour of Planet X redirects come in. "Monday is always the Day of the Moon. Tuesday is the day of Mars, Wednesday is ruled by (the day of )Mercury, Thursday is Jupiter's day, Friday is the day of Venus, Saturday is the day of Saturn, and Sunday is the day of the Sun." "The first planetary hour of the day is always the same as the planetary day; so sunrise on Monday is the beginning of both the day of the Moon and the hour of the Moon...the second planetary hour of the day of the Moon is the hour of Saturn, the third would be the hour of Jupiter, and so on."
With the days of the week, I think the link is less good, as they are named after a mixture of deities and planets Mona(moon)'s day; Tiw's day, Woden's day, Thor's day, Freya's day, Saturn's day, Sunne's day, and not the "Day of" structure, but specifically the anglo saxon form.
As for radicals and free radicals, (sorry, Black Kite's talkpage seems to be on my watchlist), it may help to know that a 'free-radical' is a thing (what thing I'm not exactly sure, but it's some sort of chemical particle like a molecule or something), whereas in all the other uses 'radical' is an adjective qualifying 'theory', and meaning 'diverged from the accepted version'.-- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 18:32, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Free radical (capitals as you please) should only redirect to the chemistry use, as none of the other uses of Radical also involve Free, so someone entering free radical with miscapitialisation is certainly looking for the chemistry usage. Radical theory should not be the subject of a dab because the phrase "Radical theory" may in other places be 'a new theory of....' or 'a revolutionary theory of....'. Except for the theory about chemical radicals where it is acually the name of the thing, it is unlikely that a searcher would put in 'radical theory' rather than "Veblen" or "Social Evolution" or "Journal of Radical Theory" (which should certainly exist as a redirect to the longer name) , or Thought Dreams or whatever.-- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 18:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Re above ^^. That was a "see also", placed at the top of the article rather than the bottom. It wasn't a disambiguation hatnote. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 22:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
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Are you sure champi means head? I would have to assume this word is related to shampoo and not to head. Also, Indian isn't a language; I assume you mean Hindi. Soap Talk/ Contributions 23:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I am unable to View my User Page. When I click on the link to it, it sends me to my Talk Page. Even when Im Logged Off, I am unable to View it. Why is it doing that and what can be done to fix that?-- Lolitologist ( talk) 15:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hi there. As a fellow WP:AVATAR member, can you please check out Talk:Aang#Hair color? NuclearWarfare ( Talk) 17:19, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
You were right about GOdF, I got them mixed up with Le Droit Humain who do admit women. Do you know if they could be incorporated into the Regular Masonic jurisdictions article? I think they branched off from GOdF. To me, admitting women is as significant step as admitting other races/atheists. Now, in terms of the OES, I am a bit confused, because if the UGLE does not approve of it, how come it is recommended by and associated with some lodges who still receive approval from the UGLE? Tyciol ( talk) 03:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi there, Tyciol! Answering your question. Here's some info in Russian about Kovalyov the Justice Minister [1]. He was in the Chernomyrdin cabinet and became "famous" for the sauna incident (he was caught on tape with three prostitutes in a sauna). As far as Kovalyov the USSR Hero is concerned, here's an article about him in Russian, as well [2]. The guy set 22 world records (!) on Tupolev Tu-104. I don't expect you to be able to read Russian, but please do not delete the entries on these gentlemen. If I have time, I'll write articles on both of them. Thanks for pointing this out, though, and happy editing! KNewman ( talk) 06:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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Thank you for your kind words, I look forward to working with you. Ikip ( talk) 17:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't really have the time to babysit this article, if you do, please reverse any anonymous edits which don't make sense on the U.S. section. Also check my latest edits and discussion. I don't really feel like putting any more work into this because it is pretty much all explained in the article on obscenity. (As far as the legality of such things in the U.S. goes this article might as well redirect there.) Nope01 ( talk) 13:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
RE: "I'm inclusionist for info, but deletionist for whitespace" [3] thanks for making me grin :) Ikip ( talk) 20:56, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
What was your reasoning for creating this redirect? Another user has nominated it for deletion, which I support. Thanks, Mike R ( talk) 17:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Tyciol, about a month ago you posted a question about UGLE's attitued towards OES on Vidkun's talk page. I just noticed it, and thought I would give you a more complete answer.
Approval/disapproval of OES is a jurisdictional thing. Remember that each Masonic Jurisdiction is independant of the others. While UGLE is respected and influential, it does not set the rules for other jurisdictions. OES is predominantly a US phenomina, and is very popular in those jurisdictions. If UGLE were to make a big deal of their disapproval, they would quickly face strong opposition by all 51 US Grand Lodges. UGLE may disapprove of OES, but it does not feel so opposed that it would risk a schism over it.
That said... There is an important difference between OES and Le Droit Humain (and other forms of Female Freemasonry). OES is not the same as female Freemasonry... it is a completely seperate organization that US Freemasonry supports. OES has different rituals, and the women who belong to OES do not call themselves Freemasons. Le Droit Humain and similar bodies, on the other hand, do use the same rituals as male Freemasonry and do claim to be Freemasons. Hope this clarifies things for you. Blueboar ( talk) 16:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, Tyciol. The deletion that you pointed to was only a deletion of sources. The sources were being used improperly (to support the assertion that "pro pedophile activism" is only done by "pedophiles" - something apparently disproven by the article itself), so I struck all of them. You should feel free to dig through the sources and see if there is any valid use, though. EmilianaMartín ( talk) 15:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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Sorry for the late response. I'm going to wait until the comic comes out before I write a good history of it. Then add on with each issue. Personally, I don't think they should screw with Lep's character like that, especially giving him a name (Lubdan? Come on.) But I will do my very best to add onto his legacy, no matter how bizarre it gets. Like it's not already weird enough. *lol* LepFan13 ( talk) 02:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
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Un you said that me adding "Underaged" as a requirement for Lolicon was based on Artistic Appearances and Neoteny"? Um...Lolicon is mostly Underaged Characters. I mean what adult looks like a child, wears child cloths, and acts like a child?! Unless the Character has Turner Syndrome then COmmon Sence and Logicital Reasoning can only lead one to say that the character is a child. I mean its not fair really to mislead people. I've seen a LOT of Lolicon. The Characters are underaged. So...-- Akemi Loli Mokoto ( talk) 19:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
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Tyciol, I must insist that you stop refactoring talk pages as you add your comments to them, such as you did with Touch and [4]. This is entirely unnecessary and makes it difficult to see what comments you did leave. -- Farix ( Talk) 11:35, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi--I've noticed that you're creating lots of disambiguation pages lately, and adding people with Japanese names to them; e.g., "Katsuo" and "Tanabe". I'd like to request that you take a look at MOS:DABNAME. In general, partial name matches are not considered to be appropriate entries for disambiguation pages; if you take a look at the Smith disambiguation page, for example, there are no people with the surname on that page. In at least a few cases, you've also added people when the previous redirect to something like a major city would otherwise be considered the primary topic of the search term. For example, Takamatsu, Kagawa is the capital of Kagawa Prefecture and has a population of over 400,000, making it the primary topic of the search term "Takamatsu" over Takamatsu Shinji, who doesn't merit his own article at the moment (although I like Gintama). Please keep these things in mind when creating new disambiguation pages in the future. Thank you! Dekimasu よ! 12:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I saw that a month back you began taking red linked names (actors, voice actors, etc.) and began turning them into redirects for whatever particular television series you found that they were a part of. This is not helpful. I went to look up the actress Rin Asuka and found that you had made a redirect to List of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni characters because she was in that show. It is better to have red links than redirects that are not helpful.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 03:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Tyciol, please please don't make any more of these "Huh???" redirects. On Runaway Horses about half of the links are now circular! Please leave the valid red links alone! Xanthoxyl ( talk) 23:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, again. I just found several more redirects you had made before I had contacted you initially.
Let me be frank, do not make redirects to cast lists or character lists again for real people. I'm getting a bunch of these deleted because they really serve no purpose and red links are much better. I have seen that you are continuing to do this when red links may actually convince people to write the real articles. I don't want to discuss this with you, again, so this is my last message to you unless I come across more redirects you have made.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 07:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm not going to bother reading through the four paragraphs you sent me. I'll say this: your redirect creation was bad and it has been determined by administrators and other members of the community that it was bad. You took common Japanese names like Masayuki or Kotaro and made redirects or disambiguation pages solely dedicated to the fictional characters and then you took random combinations of English names and made redirects. Red links are much more effective which is what I told you last time, because it does not matter if an article is made or not. THERE IS NO NEED FOR ALL OF THE REDIRECTS YOU MADE. I don't care if there are or are not articles on these people on either this or the Japanese Wikipedia. There is no need to take their given name and surname or their full name and redirect it to a tangentially useful article. If living people exist, and we have no article on them, then we have no page on them, which includes not having a redirect. When they become notable or someone else comes across the red link, an article can be created.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 04:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Yuchun is an example of one of your bad redirects. "Yuchun" is a given name in China, and I can find multiple people listed on Wikipedia who have this name. That is why it should not be a redirect to Li Yuchun. It is equivalent to taking Michael and making it a redirect to Michael Jackson or Takeru and making it a redirect to Takeru "T.K." Takaishi. And there are other examples I could find, like your mashing together of names for other redirects.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 06:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Let me say it plainly. A supermajority of the redirects you have made are implausible names, not typos, and have nothing to do with the pages to which these are redirected. All of them should be deleted. Do not make redirects for anything other than fictional characters to the lists of fictional characters. Portmanteaus are useless and making redirects for real people to people who they are not or films in which they starred are not helpful. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not a search engine for you to fine tune. I do not want a two paragraph reply to this.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 06:42, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Would you stop? No one is going to be looking up " Elton Hercules", " David Charles Cunningham", " Ishii Leslie", or " Tsunehiko Kamijo".— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 14:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
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I completely disagree with you. We have the Atushi dab page so anyone looking for her will find that in the search box, or they will use google. If and when there is sufficient sourcing to make an article about her then that will be created. Redirecting a person to a small portion of their work seems illogical to me and I agree with the criteria that it was speedy deleted under. Regards, Woody ( talk) 13:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
I'll be quite clear about this. Some of your redirects are fine, some are debatable (and those can be discussed) - ones like this are utterly useless. Here's a Google search for "Elton Hercules" without his surname - no results at all. It looks like you're unaware how Western-style names and honorifics are used. You are making work for other users who have better things to do, and I would have thought, given the number of users who have expressed similar opinions here and on AN/I, that you would know better than to immediately recreate these. So - if you start re-creating more obviously pointless redirects like Elton Hercules, I will block you for disruption. Black Kite 14:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Tyciol, I am sorry that you have taken offence, but there is no-one on the PLANET who would search for Elton Hercules when looking for Elton John, and given that you put a hatnote on Sir Hercules - which is a racehorse - on the assumption that someone somewhere might search for Elton John by looking for Sir Hercules, then I can only suggest that your grasp of English naming conventions is not as sound as you think it is. And don't stalk me either - if you have something to say to me, say it on my talkpage Elen of the Roads ( talk) 08:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
ALSO, redirecting Sir John to Elton John is totally illogical. True, Elton John has been called Sir John, but so has Sir John Gielgud (stage actor) Sir John Barbirolli (conductor) Sir John Harvey-Jones (industrialist) John de Balliol (Scottish King) Sir John Betjeman (poet) Sir John Mills (film actor) Sir John Major (prime minister) Sir John Fastolf (Falstaff) Sir John Falstaff (Shakespearian character) Sir John Hawkins (admiral, one of Elizabeth I's seahawks) Sir John Herschel (astronomer)....and so it goes for 53970 returns for Sir John in the search. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 14:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Do not refactor talk pages or entire pages as you've done at Talk:United States and stop making redirects. You've been warned about this multiple times over the past five days. If you do not get why we have an issue, that certainly does not mean you should continue acting in the way you had.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 12:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, you do not edit the archives to get your last word in.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 12:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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Having read through all of this page, all of the WP:AN/I thread and a good percentage of your edits, it is quite clear that the block is absolutely not unjustified. And until you accept that this is so, and agree to modify your behaviour in accordance with comments made about your redirect and disambig technique, there is little chance of an unblock. -- Anthony.bradbury "talk" 19:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
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I was warned that I was being disruptive: but I disagreed with that, and I still do. Creating good redirects is not disruptive. No adequate reasons are given (nor thoroughly discussed) for the deletion of many redirects. Elton Hercules in particular, I recreated and listed on RfD (see here because it was never given a chance for discussion. Too much good faith is being put into the actions of speedy deletion taggers, and too little faith in the creators of redirects. I can see that User:Redvers deleted that simply with the same speedy deletion tag. Once again: no actual investigation (or at least, explanation of it) is presented, simply citing the standard reason associated with a tag, even though it is not at all applicable. I clearly proved the plausibility of the disambiguatory redirect through posting a URL on the above RfD.
I do not understand how 'the number of edits' is reason for blocking. Furthermore, when you link to Ryulong's list: did you check the dates when they were made? The first one ( Urine Therapy) was made in 2005, so I am not sure how going back 4 years in time is good for making a case for 'speed'. That's clearly a good redirect, as you can see someone even tagged it as a redirect which disambiguates capitalization here. I made it because there are references to it which are capitalized.
Should I go on and explain each one? I think this should be evidence enough: that list is not appropriate in the slightest for making a case against me: most likely Ryulong just pasted every redirect of mine in there and assumed it was bad. This is incredibly clear to me: his list even includes entries like Lubdan which he has posted his ridiculous speedy deletion tags on and had administrators remove them. I could search through that list and point out probably at least a dozen which admins have turned down for speedy deletion. Why on earth would the total number of my redirects matter? What should matter are the contested redirects, so until someone can make a list of those so that I can actually confront them, I don't see how I am supposed to contest these accusations.
So: what am I supposed to learn from this list? I am aware I've made a lot of redirects, but I believe the great majority are useful. It's possibly I've made some mistakes but I consider myself a well-intentioned editor with some degree of competancy. It is true that I have been making increasing amounts of them, this is mainly as I grow to understand more about disambiguation and redirecting, and how I become more imaginative in predicting the various mistakes and ommissions that people can make.
I do have understanding of redirect policy. I have had disagreement over some concepts: but these are different issues. I would prefer if these were discussed distinctly: as in, rather than a huge list of 'bad' redirects, objectors can divide them into which specific objections they have. From what I recall: there's the family name issue (other people have it, should be disambig instead of redirect to single person), and then there's the issue over the use of subsequent names which nobody else shares (EH as above), which are unique to a person but someone says 'nobody would ever type it' therefore it's somehow disruptive? That, despite my having made a case for forenames being good disambiguation and giving a reference.
I would appreciate it if people would actually discuss these issues and clarify what I'm to understand: I have not been ignoring the objections, however I am I supposed to understand that I should back down from discussing an important issue? I do have some level of understanding of the issue (I have highlighted 2 of the objections, which I have understood). Before I agree to change my behaviour: I want to make sure I am not overlooking any other issues. I still want to discuss them, but this concept of 'implausibility' is something which I think needs expansion. Where do these views get heard? I am fine with agreeing to avoid doing them, but I think if editing is this restricted then Wikipedia policy should reflect it.
In the very least, Wikipedia policy currently does NOT reflect on not being able to redirect name fragments. Another editor agreed (and was ignored): redirects are cheap. There aren't any other Elton Herculeses. Elen completed ignored the URL given in her reply. Jeni made no reply at all, simply mirroring the 'implausible' which people are tagging: replies like that are utterly useless to informing editors. Xanthoxyl had already targeted these before and made an inapt comparison: there are other Martin Luthers, there aren't any other known Elton Herculeses, therefore the comparison was misleading and not an argument at all. I do think the editors have a point about researching family names: I should look more into last names and stuff like 'Sir John' as she's suggested, that's something I'll try to make an effort on in the future.
I sort of get into a bit of a vibe when I look up theoretical disambiguations that even with something obvious like Sir John (John's a common english name) I didn't even think to look for others. I believe I ran through the knights of the round table and didn't remember any Johns so I thought it would be fine (editing on a low sleep can create illogical leaps like that). So: if allowed to edit I will try to edit in a clearer state of mind where I am more likely to notice mistakes like that, and spend some more time concentrating on redirects to consider whether or not (via using the search function) a disambiguation would be more appropriate to create.
That said: I can't claim that disambiguation pages will be perfect from the start. Not every person in the world is easily found via the search. However, getting one started with the first page or two of information is good, right? Then people can add other Sir Johns (or what not) as they learn of them. In some cases articles about people are created after disambugiation pages for their family name so ongoing maintenance of disambigs is inevitable. Tyciol ( talk) 12:51, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
From WP:DISAMBIG "Preparation: Before constructing a new disambiguation page, determine a specific topic name for all existing pages, and the name for the disambiguation page. Move any page with a conflicting title (i.e., the same exact title) to its more specific name. Use the What links here list for the moved page to update pages that link to that page." Elen of the Roads ( talk) 13:22, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, re Elton Hercules, the URL of that page is Elton Hercules (né Reginald Kenneth Dwight) JOHN.aspx ie his full current name plus his birth name. You don't seem to have realised that it is not referring to him as "Elton Hercules". Elen of the Roads ( talk) 14:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I got a bit of a tendency to ramble, so I'll be more concise: I would like to be unblocked so I can go back and correct some mistakes. Basically, I went through Ryu's list and found the red links. I don't intend to create all of them: rather, I'm going to try and figure out which are plausibly useful (such as creating disambiguation pages through the use of the search engine for family names that could refer to multiple people) and put some work into doing some edits of higher quality. As for the rest: I'll maintain it and section it into the various problem areas which have been identified (implausible redirects based on portmanteaus, the omission of periods, some of which I think are strongly likely and others which I admit, do not seem as likely at second glance). One thing I am wondering: to get a fresh start and put this behind me and make it easier for people to follow new work, would it be possible to start a second account? I'm not interested in evading a ban or sock-puppeting, but rather as per WP:MULTIPLE listing the association on both because I have a good reason of wanting to turn over a new leaf and make edits of lower quantity and higher quality. This has built up bad blood and I'm wondering if I could have a new start with User:Ty or something like that. This would minimize the difficulty of people who want to monitor new edits for quality and stuff. Tyciol ( talk) 14:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
In your own words, from a deleted edit at Talk:Elton Hercules:
Clearly you knew these redirects were considered disruptive, clearly you knew you were likely to be blocked if you continued making them. You did continue, and you were blocked... now you act surprised? I don't understand. What exactly did you think was going to happen, here? That repeating problem behavior would suddenly make others more amenable? Why not use a more appropriate forum, like Wikipedia:Deletion review? Why not employ dispute resolution to build consensus for your position? It's not so much what you're doing, but how you go about it that led to a block here, I think. – Luna Santin ( talk) 17:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay I'll do this in a new section.
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Some good reasons were explained to me on alternate ways besides recreating redirects for RFD discussion (such as deletion review). The 'unjustified' was more in response to the reasons posted for the block. Basically: making a lot of edits is not justification, but the objections to my creation of redirects in lieu of spending time on disambig was justified, so I would like to continue editing and this time be more thorough in using search first, especially for the last names of real people which are likely to have matches. As for partial names, I will avoid making those unless someone is clearly referred to as that, and continue discussing that in policy talk pages and attempt to form some consensus to confront objectors with, rather than making it a namespace issue. Basically changing from not necessary to no longer necessary as I do understand what's being asked, I just wanted clarification on the specific points of the ban because I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something (vague ban description). I should not: disambig family names instead of red, don't red partials, don't red portmanteaus, don't direct actors to pages unless their name is confirmed not to show up anywhere else on wiki (and even then avoid circulars by removing original link), to not put year categories on talk pages, to not continue incident report discussions after archived (I guess start new one instead), and to not indent OP's replies on talk pages and allow the back'n forth thing. I would like to post Mark-swoggle for deletion review though, it doesn't fit any of these already had 3 editors confirm this and add it to the page.
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Still waiting for you to give a proper response to User:Dougweller's comment above. Extremely long responses give me the impression that you don't really intend to respond. You should be aware that you are running out of chances, if you don't have the intention to give a real answer soon. Your talk page may be locked due to the lack of any sincere effort to comply with our policies. Your redirects seemed nonsensical to many people, and you don't seem to realize that. If you would promise to stop creating redirects, you might be unblocked. EdJohnston ( talk) 03:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
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What sort of response would be proper? I thought this second one was. I identified as many objections as I could remember. I don't even know which the mod agrees with and which he disagrees with. How does writing a long response mean I don't intend to respond? I am being sincere, I'm sorry you don't recognize that.
I am already aware the redirects seem nonsensical (I do realize that, despite what you say) but many I have made do NOT seem nonsensical to mods who have saved them, do you want me to post a list?. I am fine promising to stop making them for a period of time, like the one week I was initially banned for, for example. If you would suggest a period of time, that's cool, but I won't leave it open-ended as that implies forever.
I don't think it's fair to ban me from forever making them when I do make good ones and understand what I did wrong in the bad ones. If I am making these unblock appeals too rapidly then I'll slow down, I'm totally fine just talking to the people so far until I come into an udnerstanding, it's just I'm not sure whether or not people read replies here since it doesn't pop up. Tyciol ( talk) 20:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
For example: something I want to do now but can't which I think would be decent. Before I might have just redirected Szatkowski to Rob Van Dam. But even though it looks a rare name and I'd figure he's the only notable one with it, I use search and see besides him there's also a Henry, Henryk, Zygmunt, Charmayne, Deryck, Stanislaw, etc. so I would begin a disambiguation page for Szatkowski with a reasonable number of notable people found via search. This is what I have learned from Ryulong (and the same for first names). Doing this for a while is something I could do even while being restricted from redirects to show good intent here. As for a valid redirect, I think RvD to Ryan vs. Dorkman makes sense. As for a valid hatnote, putting one on RVD for RvD and also RV-D may be useful. Thoughts? Tyciol ( talk) 04:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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I eventually plan to make a third appeal, but am seeking advice from the dispute resolution committee on how to word it, so I will not post the tag here yet for fear of talk page locking. This is a placeholder for the moment, if anyone has any advice on what issues I did not cover in the original block, that would be helpful. Summarizing this is useful as it is not clearly and shortly stated the issues. Tyciol ( talk) 05:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't check my Wikipedia much, and I don't quite recall making the redirect to Barack Obama. Probably came in the stage of my life when I was against Obama, then I kind of liked him, and now he's just straight disappointing. I really get irritated when people tag my work for speedy deletion, so please try to refrain from tagging the page. No one else has brought it up to an issue, and I don't think anyone cares ever since the election is over.
I'm pretty sure I've heard the name "Barack Hussein" used on Fox News here and there, but I'm more of a BBC guy even though I live in the United States. Nice talking with you. Chinese3126 ( talk) 22:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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This is an alternate reality game (though I'm not sure if it's notable) which could use a redirect, if anyone is curious. See 1/ 2/ 3. Also the surname Fusster only shows up on the Wikipedia article Monster Buster Club, so it seems like a logical redirect for the moment. Tyciol ( talk) 16:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
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There seem to be at least 2 alternative spellings for this family name. Various people seem to have it. I am not sure which would be proper to go with (maybe the 'e' since that o is hard to write) but it would probably make a valuable disambiguation page. I've been looking at various people with articles using the search function and would like to list them on such a page to help people who hear the name and may be looking for information about someone with that name but may have difficulty navigating the search pages for it. The reason for this is many articles mention the name, but on articles not about people with the name, such as actresses who have portrayed Juliane in movies, for example. Tyciol ( talk) 15:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations on your unblock. Welcome back to editing. As with Black Kite, I recommend working on articles or identifying dabs. Creating redirects as the first step to articles isn't really the way to go I think. Feel free to run any suggestion past me - as you know, I'm horribly negative and will probably tell you not to do it, but I'm not always right, and discussion helps to clarify things on all sides. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:49, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Koihime -> Koihime Muso = OK. Chocosis -> Chocotto Sister = OK. Don't create the "Chokosis" one though, that seems like a very unlikely search term. Black Kite 23:02, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Unit Zappa is like Elton Hercules - it's too unlikely a search term (sorry, I was posting something else on BK's talk page and couldn't help noticing) -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 00:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Gee this is cool. I guess I should respond on BK's page, just to close the loop :). Anyway, the problem with creating a redirect Fate/ is that it's implausible again. In English, if you have that construction of name series/book, you wouldn't type the / in when searching for the name of the series. For instance, I wouldn't search for "Black Dagger Brotherhood/". It makes no sense, so there's no point in a redirect. An entry on a dab page perhaps. -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 01:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and please don't refactor comments as you did to me above. You'll do it to the wrong person and they'll get mad, and you'll find yourself blocked again. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 01:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. Still, the only reason I questioned the speedy deletion was because the redirects weren't recently created. I have no doubt that they should be deleted as unlikely search terms. Yes, Saturday means "day of Saturn", but it's pretty far-fetched to think that readers are going to search for "day of Saturn" when they want to find information on Saturday. Regards, Jafeluv ( talk) 05:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll tell you why. Adrena is an uncommon first name, nobody is going to search for just that first name in order to find a list of minor characters in a television show. Higurei was one of many ridiculous neologism portmanteaus that you created that nobody in their right mind would ever search for. Now I'd appreciate it if you didn't critique every deletion, sorting through that list was one of the most boring things I've ever had to do here and would rather not have to keep explaining myself. — Xezbeth ( talk) 06:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
"Adrena" is a company which makes navigation software for yachts. It's also a rare first name for girls. Neither topic is intrinsically suitable for an article and should be left to Google. And the redirect you made went to a one-episode villain in a cartoon. Even if it went to a notable real person, it would not be okay unless the person were usually referred to by first name only. No more #Rs, no more dabs, no more refactoring and monkeying with talk-pages. How hard can this be? Xanthoxyl ( talk) 02:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I do not want to read essays by you. If you want to talk to me on my talk page do so in four sentence blocks.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 07:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Better, but I don't need the original content.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 07:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
So I come back today, and you've created redirects without running them past me ( Chokotto), added non-notable things to dab pages ( Run-up) and pestered people to restore non-notable redirects. Let's me clear about this, if any of those things happen again, I'll restore the block, and there won't be another chance. Black Kite 17:52, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
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Note I have responded. I find none of your arguments satisfactory - you still do not understand that a redlink is a valid thing, and your grasp of english at depth is not as good as your use of english in conversation, meaning that you are frequently not understanding that phrases have wider or older meanings. However, do continue the discussion if you wish. -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 08:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
However, having said that, I do feel that your ideal of entering into discussion on the talk page of the redirects guideline is a sound one. I wouldn't try rewriting the guideline, but starting a discussion would certainly not be inappropriate. -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:22, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm only gone to say this once. Do not refactor talk pages again as you did here. [9] There is absolutely not consensus that your refactoring is beneficial and you have been told repeatedly by several editors to knock it off. If you continue, I will bring it up with WP:ANI again. --— Farix ( t | c) 21:45, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
When, you were originally told to not refactor pages, you were directed to WP:TALK, specifically the section about editing other editors comments, which only gives very limited cases where such edits are acceptable. You even brought the topic up there, but the condenses was that your refactoring was no helpful, was entirely inappropriate, and even disruptive. Yet, despite condenses against your refactoring, you continue to do it. It was this same problematic behavior, but regarding redirects, where you didn't listen to the consensus of other editors that got you blocked in the first place. Apparently, you haven't learned from your mistakes. YOU SIMPLY CANNOT IGNORE CONSENSUS. — Farix ( t | c) 00:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
In short, STOP before you end up back at ANI. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 11:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I redirected
Runup
RunUp to
Run-up because it's a plausible typo - someone wanting the
Run-up article might well leave the hyphen out - not because it was the name of the company. If the company isn't notable enough to have an article, it shouldn' be in the dab.
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Perhaps I didn't make it very clear actually; the point is that if Runup is pointed towards Run-up - which it is - then RunUp needs to be as well, you can't have different capitalisations pointing to different places. Black Kite 18:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
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Tyciol, you have just refactored Talk:Crispin Glover, including restoring a section from 2004 that had been deleted IN 2005, and quite gratuitously correcting some poor soul's punctuation to no valid end. What is your problem? What part of the word STOP are you failing to understand here? -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 15:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
As to Frank Harris, User:Boleyn2 was referring to WP:PIPING (some sections of MOS have a redirect on MOS but I don't think this one does, and I don't know why he used AB). As I note from the responses you have received on WT:WPDIS, I was correct and the entry was wrong. I have therefore reverted it again. Sorry -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
As I have said previously, if you alter someone's spelling, grammar or punctuation in a comment on a text page, all you do is piss them off - like you have pissed me off. Also, let me introduce you to the Rhetorical question. I don't expect answers to questions of the "why do you keep doing this" type, therefore they do not require a question mark. -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 17:36, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
..if you're interested. I nominated Day of Saturn at RfD [10], and a couple of astrologers have pointed out that it should redirect to Planetary hours. And moreover, there are a whole set of Day of Planet X and Hour of Planet X redirects that should point there as well. What do you say? -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
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If you read Planetary hours you can see quite clearly where all the Day of Planet X and Hour of Planet X redirects come in. "Monday is always the Day of the Moon. Tuesday is the day of Mars, Wednesday is ruled by (the day of )Mercury, Thursday is Jupiter's day, Friday is the day of Venus, Saturday is the day of Saturn, and Sunday is the day of the Sun." "The first planetary hour of the day is always the same as the planetary day; so sunrise on Monday is the beginning of both the day of the Moon and the hour of the Moon...the second planetary hour of the day of the Moon is the hour of Saturn, the third would be the hour of Jupiter, and so on."
With the days of the week, I think the link is less good, as they are named after a mixture of deities and planets Mona(moon)'s day; Tiw's day, Woden's day, Thor's day, Freya's day, Saturn's day, Sunne's day, and not the "Day of" structure, but specifically the anglo saxon form.
As for radicals and free radicals, (sorry, Black Kite's talkpage seems to be on my watchlist), it may help to know that a 'free-radical' is a thing (what thing I'm not exactly sure, but it's some sort of chemical particle like a molecule or something), whereas in all the other uses 'radical' is an adjective qualifying 'theory', and meaning 'diverged from the accepted version'.-- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 18:32, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Free radical (capitals as you please) should only redirect to the chemistry use, as none of the other uses of Radical also involve Free, so someone entering free radical with miscapitialisation is certainly looking for the chemistry usage. Radical theory should not be the subject of a dab because the phrase "Radical theory" may in other places be 'a new theory of....' or 'a revolutionary theory of....'. Except for the theory about chemical radicals where it is acually the name of the thing, it is unlikely that a searcher would put in 'radical theory' rather than "Veblen" or "Social Evolution" or "Journal of Radical Theory" (which should certainly exist as a redirect to the longer name) , or Thought Dreams or whatever.-- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 18:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Re above ^^. That was a "see also", placed at the top of the article rather than the bottom. It wasn't a disambiguation hatnote. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 22:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
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Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. -- Erwin85Bot ( talk) 01:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)